Full Transcript for Building Community with Kallie Fischer

even though I feel like I'm prone to injuries. 00:04:34.860 --> 00:04:36.779 I also played like D3 volleyball. 00:04:36.939 --> 00:04:37.500 So how fun. 00:04:37.819 --> 00:04:53.259 But as you guys are talking, like, what's funny is so I'm like the common denominator between you two, and I know I've talked about Megan to you, Callie, and I know I've talked about Callie to you, Megan, and now that you're both talking, I'm like, wow, you guys have a lot more in common than I like even put together. 00:04:53.579 --> 00:04:56.220 Yeah, sounds like we do, which is exciting. 00:04:56.540 --> 00:04:59.019 But you mentioned that it took you a while to go to chiropractic school. 00:04:59.100 --> 00:05:01.500 I didn't go back to chiropractic school until I was 30. 00:05:01.899 --> 00:05:02.060 Okay. 00:05:02.860 --> 00:05:03.899 What did you do before that? 00:05:04.139 --> 00:05:05.180 A long path. 00:05:05.339 --> 00:05:09.660 I worked in the office and managed it and did all the other I did everything else except for adjust. 00:05:09.740 --> 00:05:22.699 And then one day I was like, okay, I actually, this is horrible to say, but I actually struggled with chiropractors a lot growing up, like when I had to work with them, because I felt they were just like they didn't love it the way I loved it. 00:05:22.780 --> 00:05:35.899 And I was like, I am frustrated with you, and I don't like work like male chiropractors of Gen X, and I hate to say that because I know there's good ones out there, but like I found them so difficult and such elitist. 00:05:36.060 --> 00:05:40.620 And they like one person literally was like, You just don't understand because you're not a chiropractor, like chiropractic philosophy. 00:05:40.699 --> 00:05:43.339 And I was like, if I can't understand it, how do you expect your patients to? 00:05:43.420 --> 00:05:48.300 And they were like, Oh, I don't know, and you're just like, I cannot, I cannot, you know. 00:05:48.540 --> 00:05:52.540 And um, I do love the Lineal Generation below because I feel like they're very team-oriented. 00:05:52.620 --> 00:06:03.899 I feel like we all had to do group projects, and then um, I do like the really old generation because they're just like, I'm here to serve for my life, and I'm like, okay, I love that, but there was that was really hard to do. 00:06:04.060 --> 00:06:06.379 It's the one directly above us that is like the issue. 00:06:07.100 --> 00:06:19.500 Oh my god, every one of them were just like very elitist, and I really I just don't vibe with that, so I was finally like, I guess I have to go to school because what else are we gonna do here with these people? 00:06:20.459 --> 00:06:21.339 That's awesome. 00:06:21.500 --> 00:06:25.660 That's so cool though, because like I still feel like that's true now as a chiropractor. 00:06:25.819 --> 00:06:27.339 Like, I get mad with that generation as well. 00:06:27.420 --> 00:06:30.699 I talk about that often with my my my good girlfriend. 00:06:30.939 --> 00:06:38.139 Um, but like I just feel like there's that loss, like that generation, there's a loss of of the passion of chiropractic. 00:06:38.379 --> 00:06:39.660 And I'm like, what happened? 00:06:39.740 --> 00:06:40.780 What happened in your childhood? 00:06:41.019 --> 00:06:42.540 What did happen with that generation? 00:06:42.780 --> 00:06:51.339 This I feel like this is getting very niche chiropractic, but I feel sorry in our like if you look at the chiropractic professions, that's okay, I love it. 00:06:51.579 --> 00:07:06.699 Um, you look at like the generation that I'm thinking of, Megan, and I think you're probably thinking of like the boomers and a butt right before them, was like these really like strong, like philosophically based chiropractors that are fire and like the light. 00:07:06.860 --> 00:07:15.899 And when you look at like the big like our speakers and influential docs in our in our profession, they came from that generation. 00:07:16.459 --> 00:07:22.459 And then it was the one below, which you would think they would be the ones to take the torch, but I feel like they did nothing. 00:07:22.699 --> 00:07:24.860 They're like, we're just here to make a buck. 00:07:25.259 --> 00:07:28.699 And then there's us where we're like, let's revive it. 00:07:29.899 --> 00:07:30.300 Yeah. 00:07:30.540 --> 00:07:35.980 Well, to go with that, you know what I found is I think because it was like, you know, you hear things like the Mercedes 80s. 00:07:36.220 --> 00:07:42.300 One of the general sentiments that I found is I feel like that group all were motivated to go into chiropractic for the money. 00:07:42.459 --> 00:07:44.620 They're like, oh, this this person makes money ahead of me. 00:07:44.699 --> 00:07:51.259 And they don't understand if you're really passionate about something as chiropractic, you can make money, but if you're like in it for the right reasons, you actually will make a ton of money in clinic. 00:07:51.339 --> 00:07:56.939 It's you can do that, but if you're just in it for the money, you probably won't make a lot of money. 00:07:57.019 --> 00:08:11.100 And every single, I think I worked with about five different doctors of that generation in our clinic because my dad passed away and and we hired people, and every single one of them were male around the same age, and they all had the same sentiment of I can't make money in chiropractic. 00:08:11.339 --> 00:08:14.540 And that was and so they felt jaded, like I should give them money, and I can't. 00:08:14.620 --> 00:08:21.420 And I feel like instead of evolving with the times and being like, Okay, I can't do what the generation above did me, so let me figure out my own way. 00:08:21.660 --> 00:08:24.220 They were just like, It's just you just can't. 00:08:24.300 --> 00:08:26.300 I was I think we feel duped in a way. 00:08:28.459 --> 00:08:38.379 I when I we moved into our house, when we moved into our house here, there's a neighbor, I have a neighbor next door, he's

in that generation, and um, you know, we introduced ourselves and he's like, What do you do? 00:08:38.539 --> 00:08:42.220 And he's like, I said I was a chiropractor, and he said, Oh, I'm a chiropractor too. 00:08:42.379 --> 00:08:43.420 I was like, Oh, where do you practice? 00:08:43.500 --> 00:08:45.019 He's like, Oh, I don't practice anymore. 00:08:45.180 --> 00:08:46.379 That stuff's for the birds. 00:08:46.539 --> 00:08:48.940 He's like, I own a construction company now. 00:08:49.100 --> 00:08:53.259 And I was like, Oh, okay, sorry for your loss. 00:08:55.819 --> 00:08:58.139 Yeah, what a weird thing to say. 00:08:58.620 --> 00:09:00.220 Yeah, super weird. 00:09:00.460 --> 00:09:03.339 And then I asked him why, and he's like, This is what you guys were just talking about. 00:09:03.500 --> 00:09:09.259 He's like, Well, the insurance doesn't pay anything, and I'm like, Well, you're obviously weren't in it for the right reasons. 00:09:11.259 --> 00:09:22.940 You know what I think it is also, our generation got slapped in the face like as soon as we were entering like adulthood with like the 2008 recession. 00:09:23.180 --> 00:09:35.259 So we were, I feel like we always had a certain degree of humility of like things are tough, we're gonna have to work hard, we're gonna really have to pull pull it up and do things maybe a little differently. 00:09:35.579 --> 00:09:38.859 And you know, we had one thing after the other, obviously. 00:09:39.180 --> 00:09:41.819 But I think that's made us so much resourceful jobs. 00:09:42.059 --> 00:09:44.299 Yeah, I feel like we can compassionate. 00:09:45.579 --> 00:09:47.900 I love our generation, and I always thought we're lovely. 00:09:48.539 --> 00:10:03.660 I think we're so wonderful because I know Skylar experienced this with me too, and Callie, you might have, but like when early in chiropractic, when the you know, this generation that I'm talking about was in leadership positions, they shit on us all the time. 00:10:03.740 --> 00:10:06.059 They were always like millennials, I can't sell to millennials. 00:10:06.140 --> 00:10:07.900 And I was like, I'll tell you how to sell to us. 00:10:07.980 --> 00:10:13.259 Uh, we like experiences and people would be nice to us and like value us and not talk at us, but talk with us. 00:10:13.420 --> 00:10:15.259 And they were like, No, you don't understand. 00:10:15.339 --> 00:10:17.259 And I was like, I'm a millennial, I know. 00:10:17.420 --> 00:10:21.819 And they did not want to make any changes to adapt to us, they just hated our generation. 00:10:21.900 --> 00:10:27.180 And I'm like, we are the coolest people and so lovely, and but we're very resourceful. 00:10:27.259 --> 00:10:29.180 Like, we'll figure it out if we want to do it. 00:10:29.259 --> 00:10:31.180 And I love that about our generation. 00:10:32.299 --> 00:10:33.740 We're just better. 00:10:35.019 --> 00:10:46.460 Actually, I think you're Callie, a very good example of this because I do think that you are a leader in your community, and I do think that you are very good at creating a community space. 00:10:46.619 --> 00:10:51.099 You're very active in your local um you don't do better business. 00:10:51.180 --> 00:10:55.420 You do we were in B and I for a little while. 00:10:55.900 --> 00:11:06.539 B and I and the Chamber, the Chamber, um, and I'm in a women's entrepreneurship group too, called Little Black Book. 00:11:08.220 --> 00:11:22.940 But I feel like you do a good job at like actually involving people and connecting people and creating those like community connections that actually make a difference versus putting what you think would be best for you first. 00:11:23.180 --> 00:11:26.059 You're looking at the whole yeah, yeah. 00:11:26.299 --> 00:11:28.619 I mean, that's it's kind of how I grew up. 00:11:28.779 --> 00:11:35.900 I grew up in a really small town and everybody was involved in everything and everybody's stuff, and even like where we live now, St. 00:11:36.059 --> 00:11:39.339 Charles, I feel like is like a big small town. 00:11:39.500 --> 00:11:42.940 A lot of people know a lot of people, and so um, I don't know. 00:11:43.099 --> 00:11:54.779 I guess I'm just trying to create that small town mentality within our practice, and you know, we have community events all the time, and I don't know, it's what I enjoy, it's what I love. 00:11:56.380 --> 00:11:58.940 How did well to get back to how what is your journey? 00:11:59.019 --> 00:12:02.539 Because you said you had a little bit roundabout journey into becoming a chiropractor. 00:12:02.859 --> 00:12:03.259 Yeah. 00:12:03.579 --> 00:12:06.700 Do you want me to share the long story or the cliff notes? 00:12:08.700 --> 00:12:13.660 Oh, I you know, whatever however you want to share it, we have time for it. 00:12:14.380 --> 00:12:18.940 So always wanted to be a chiropractor until I got to college. 00:12:19.180 --> 00:12:26.539 In I think it was like 2012, I got in a motorcycle accident um and it came off the bike at 60 miles per hour. 00:12:28.140 --> 00:12:33.740 And knewing what I knew about the body, I was like, all right, I need to go see a chiropractor. 00:12:33.980 --> 00:12:43.660 I had like road rash, but didn't break any bone in my body, had no internal bleeding, like nothing was medically wrong with me outside of like road rash. 00:12:45.180 --> 00:12:49.339 And uh playing college volleyball at the time, I took some time off to heal. 00:12:49.500 --> 00:12:54.220 And when I went back to playing, I significantly hurt my low back, knowing what I know now. 00:12:54.299 --> 00:12:59.500 I'm sure it was from the accident, just delayed swelling and inflammation of the discs. 00:12:59.900 --> 00:13:08.539 So um started seeing chiropractors near the school I was going to, and they would adjust my low back, and my legs would go completely numb. 00:13:08.700 --> 00:13:17.980 I couldn't get up off the table, and I was kind of just like, man, if this is what chiropractors are out

here in the world doing, like I don't know if I really want to do this to people. 00:13:19.019 --> 00:13:20.380 Um knowing what I know. 00:13:20.779 --> 00:13:22.700 Did you see our face at chiropractors? 00:13:22.940 --> 00:13:26.940 Yes, but knowing what I know now, they probably just wasn't. 00:13:27.099 --> 00:13:29.420 I just kissed if you got a second adjustment. 00:13:30.299 --> 00:13:32.619 Yeah, I went to two different people and the same thing happened. 00:13:32.779 --> 00:13:35.660 I just guess like you Yeah, yeah, yeah. 00:13:35.900 --> 00:13:41.500 But like that's insane because if that happened to a patient, I'd be like, we gotta do more there, you know? 00:13:41.740 --> 00:13:43.660 Yeah, we gotta do something different. 00:13:44.059 --> 00:13:57.339 Yeah, they were doing a lot of um just diversified and then some traction, like um decompression on my spine, and I think I had just such significant swelling in my bottom two discs. 00:13:57.500 --> 00:13:59.500 Um, anyways, I ended up getting an MRI. 00:13:59.579 --> 00:14:04.940 They wanted to do surgery, but my dad was like, we're not doing that, and so glad I did it. 00:14:05.180 --> 00:14:24.859 Um but quit quit chiropractor, or I'm sorry, quit volleyball because I couldn't play because my spine and switched degrees because I was dating a guy at the time, and he's like, Well, you don't really want to hurt people, and these guys were doing that to you, and I'm gonna own my family business, so you should switch degrees and get a business degree so that we can own this business together. 00:14:25.180 --> 00:14:30.220 And I was like, uh, okay, sure, whatever you say, I want to get married one day. 00:14:31.819 --> 00:14:33.740 Dumb, dumb mistake. 00:14:33.900 --> 00:14:34.220 To be young. 00:14:34.380 --> 00:14:35.259 Don't listen to boys. 00:14:35.500 --> 00:14:35.980 Too young. 00:14:36.140 --> 00:14:38.460 I was only like, yeah, 20 at the time. 00:14:39.099 --> 00:14:49.579 Um, so then um I worked, I switched degrees of business, worked for his company, his family's company for a while, and we ended up breaking up my senior year in college. 00:14:49.819 --> 00:14:56.859 He broke up with me and at the same time lost my job doing that because I worked at their family business and didn't know what I was gonna do. 00:14:56.940 --> 00:15:10.299 So I found a job working in sales and I did sales for the travel industry for a year and a half and hated being behind a computer, being stuck behind a phone, leaving voicemails and cold calls. 00:15:10.460 --> 00:15:12.460 It was just not not for me. 00:15:12.859 --> 00:15:15.180 So um, I just had this weird thought. 00:15:15.339 --> 00:15:18.059 I'm like, I wonder what it takes to get to Cairo School. 00:15:18.220 --> 00:15:22.220 I started my career that way, it can't be can't be that far off. 00:15:22.460 --> 00:15:26.140 And so I had to take that a few hours short. 00:15:26.380 --> 00:15:33.420 And anyways, it's the long story of like not going to an accredited school and not having enough hours and just all this red tape. 00:15:33.579 --> 00:15:47.019 And they finally were like, you know what, you had good grades, your dad's an alumni, we're gonna bring you in on the probation, and they accepted me into the school, moved like decided in February, moved in in May, and started trip for try one right then and there. 00:15:47.180 --> 00:15:52.779 So it was a quick made this decision in like December and moved in in May. 00:15:53.099 --> 00:15:53.420 Wow. 00:15:53.579 --> 00:15:55.339 Wow, that's awesome. 00:15:55.740 --> 00:15:57.420 Callie, did you like stop? 00:15:57.579 --> 00:16:04.299 Okay, you had your motorcycle accident, got adjustments that obviously weren't what your body needed. 00:16:04.460 --> 00:16:10.380 Um, did you just stop getting adjusted between that and then going to chiropractic school? 00:16:10.859 --> 00:16:21.339 Yeah, when I moved back home to because I when I quit volleyball, I switched schools too, just because it was I lost my scholarship and it was just gonna be way too much. 00:16:21.500 --> 00:16:31.980 So I moved to a local school and I my dad would adjust me here and there, but I was living with this guy at the time, and so I was like not super close to home, and I didn't make it a priority. 00:16:32.059 --> 00:16:39.099 It was just a really weird phase in my life, but um I uh I just yeah, I kind of gave up on it. 00:16:40.779 --> 00:16:42.220 What a transformation it is. 00:16:42.380 --> 00:16:46.380 Do you feel like the um the business degree has helped you now, though? 00:16:47.259 --> 00:16:52.619 Uh this I think the sales portion, not so much the degree as like working in sales really helped. 00:16:52.779 --> 00:16:55.500 Uh, I think I did a lot of extra stuff. 00:16:55.660 --> 00:16:59.980 I did like it's so silly now looking back, but like Toastmasters, I don't know if you've ever heard of it. 00:17:00.059 --> 00:17:01.259 It's like a public speaking club. 00:17:01.500 --> 00:17:04.779 Yeah, yeah, you both like, yeah, heard of that. 00:17:05.339 --> 00:17:14.220 But doing stuff like that and just hearing no, like it sounds like a silly thing, but getting no is a good thing to learn from. 00:17:14.380 --> 00:17:23.019 And I did that a lot when I was working in sales, and I think that created a lot of resilience, and so I think that experience working there helped me more so than the business degree. 00:17:23.259 --> 00:17:29.339 And um, I mean, you learn the accounting and the things behind it, so I'd have like a base knowledge before you know opening my own. 00:17:29.420 --> 00:17:36.220 I also married a CPA, so that's that's my best business advice for Cairo students is to marry an accountant. 00:17:37.500 --> 00:17:40.059 Yeah, that's really good. 00:17:40.220 --> 00:17:42.059 A good accountant makes a big difference. 00:17:42.379 --> 00:17:43.899 We talk about that often. 00:17:44.779 --> 00:17:45.419 We do. 00:17:46.299 --> 00:17:55.579 So

when you go into business though, like was it pretty easy transition, like like by the time you opened your own practice, like pretty seamless for you? 00:17:56.539 --> 00:18:03.899 So I actually worked for someone for four years prior to opening my own, and it was a good experience. 00:18:04.059 --> 00:18:07.579 I learned a lot about what I liked, what I didn't like. 00:18:07.740 --> 00:18:10.539 Um worked I worked for my dad like you. 00:18:10.619 --> 00:18:24.139 I worked in my dad's office for a few years before I um went to that sales job before I went to um yeah, it was probably for a year, year and a half before the sales position. 00:18:24.700 --> 00:18:27.179 And I think that helped a lot. 00:18:27.339 --> 00:18:29.179 Just the combination of the two, you know. 00:18:29.259 --> 00:18:31.339 I mean, everything builds on itself. 00:18:31.740 --> 00:18:34.539 But working in that space, I kind of got a good view. 00:18:34.619 --> 00:18:41.259 Like, you don't know the small things behind the scenes that you have to do to own a business and be right with the law. 00:18:41.579 --> 00:18:45.179 Um, but then going out on my own was one of the best things I ever did. 00:18:45.339 --> 00:18:49.419 Just the combination of all of it, I think, has made me successful. 00:18:49.579 --> 00:18:51.500 Um, and just caring for people. 00:18:51.740 --> 00:19:05.179 I mean, I I feel like I feel like business isn't hard, and that sounds kind of like boastful in a way, but I'm like, if you just care about what you do and helping people and like do the best that you can for people, they're gonna take care of you too. 00:19:05.419 --> 00:19:09.179 I like that you say that, but there are a lot of people in our field who struggle. 00:19:09.339 --> 00:19:17.099 Um, what is it like how what advice would you give to them if someone's like, well, I have my business and I feel like I care, but it's still hard. 00:19:17.259 --> 00:19:19.339 What would you you say to them? 00:19:21.099 --> 00:19:25.099 Um, I I agree it can be hard and stressful stressful. 00:19:26.220 --> 00:19:31.179 I guess my best advice, obviously, they care about their patients well. 00:19:33.179 --> 00:19:38.460 I honestly I never thought I would hire a business coach, and that really made a big difference. 00:19:38.539 --> 00:19:45.819 I think for me, again, you have I've worked at an office, I've gone to business school, I have an accountant husband, like I have all these things. 00:19:46.059 --> 00:19:56.379 I think mindset gets in the way a lot, and like a limiting mindset, um, and just having an outside voice telling you, like, hey, no, you're not crazy. 00:19:56.539 --> 00:20:04.859 This does suck, or this is hard, or what you're going through is true, but you're stronger than this, you're more resilient, you know. 00:20:04.940 --> 00:20:18.299 Like just having someone else giving you that advice that isn't in your head because it's very easy to get caught up in the mundane and the stress and the crap of practice at the same time. 00:20:18.539 --> 00:20:23.179 Um, I think that was a really big turning point for me because I never thought I would do that. 00:20:25.819 --> 00:20:26.940 What coach did you use? 00:20:27.019 --> 00:20:30.940 Was it a chiropractic-specific business coach or just more generalized business coach? 00:20:31.659 --> 00:20:34.539 Yeah, he's a um he's Gonstead specific. 00:20:34.619 --> 00:20:36.220 His name's Brian Huckin. 00:20:36.379 --> 00:20:39.500 He owns uh Excelsior Business Academy. 00:20:41.339 --> 00:20:42.379 Oh, I heard of that. 00:20:42.460 --> 00:20:44.059 I've seen it around on the internet. 00:20:44.700 --> 00:20:45.259 Oh, really? 00:20:45.339 --> 00:20:45.500 Cool. 00:20:45.819 --> 00:20:46.700 Are you still with him? 00:20:47.019 --> 00:20:51.500 He uh, yeah, we've I've been with him since I opened my practice in 23. 00:20:51.980 --> 00:20:56.059 And we meet once a week and he tells me I'm not crazy. 00:20:56.779 --> 00:20:58.700 I pay him to tell me I'm not crazy. 00:20:58.940 --> 00:21:00.460 Yeah, you need you need that. 00:21:01.579 --> 00:21:02.619 That's really good to have. 00:21:02.700 --> 00:21:09.019 Yeah, because it does I think one thing like what I'm hearing from you is what most business owners experience is this isolation feeling. 00:21:09.099 --> 00:21:10.059 Like, am I the only one? 00:21:10.139 --> 00:21:11.179 It seems easy for everyone else. 00:21:11.259 --> 00:21:17.099 Am I the only one dealing with this hardship or this part, you know, I love what I'm doing, this one part really sucks. 00:21:17.339 --> 00:21:19.819 Am I the only one experiencing that because it feels that way? 00:21:19.899 --> 00:21:22.859 Because nobody's putting it on the internet how hard things are. 00:21:23.179 --> 00:21:28.539 So having that person just to be like, you know, you're not crazy, and everybody goes through it really does make a difference. 00:21:28.859 --> 00:21:34.619 Yeah, even like your good girlfriend, like I I feel like you guys are really close. 00:21:35.019 --> 00:21:37.019 And uh, I have one of my best friends. 00:21:37.099 --> 00:21:38.619 We talk on the phone literally every day. 00:21:38.700 --> 00:21:53.819 She's a chiropractor in Iowa, and we talk on the phone every single day, and it's not like formal or you know, whatever, but just offloading some of that anxiety and stress on each other, and again, being like, you're not crazy, this is normal. 00:21:55.899 --> 00:21:58.619 And Skylar mentioned you're very good at building community. 00:21:58.859 --> 00:22:05.659 That seems to be really important, I think, for longevity in this field is that you know, countering the isolation that can happen as a business owner. 00:22:05.899 --> 00:22:12.539 How did you go about like what's like how did you go about to build this community that you're you're in and have cultivated? 00:22:13.019 --> 00:22:22.299 Yeah, one of the best pieces of advice I got when I was in Cairo school is to

like do the things that you love and the people will find you. 00:22:22.460 --> 00:22:26.779 So, like, if you love playing volleyball, play in rec leagues, meet people that way. 00:22:26.940 --> 00:22:31.179 Um, if you're really involved in your church, get involved in your church, like you meet people that way. 00:22:31.339 --> 00:22:33.819 Not that that's why you're going to church, but that's not. 00:22:34.220 --> 00:22:41.819 Why you're going to volleyball, it's just that's where you're gonna meet your people and find people that are like-minded, and I thought that was great advice. 00:22:41.980 --> 00:22:44.619 Uh, I'm super my husband and I are very involved in our church. 00:22:44.779 --> 00:22:52.539 A lot of my patients, I think that's where the bulk of my patients started was just people in my church seeing me and then them referring people. 00:22:52.779 --> 00:22:56.940 We have a big family practice, so we have a lot of family events. 00:22:57.099 --> 00:23:13.259 Um, I feel like around this area there are a lot of family things where I grew up, there wasn't, but I'm like, man, if I were a mom, I would want to have a pool day that I can just take my kids to and hang out with other people that are in the same mindset and same um seasons of life. 00:23:13.419 --> 00:23:15.819 So we do a lot of that in our office. 00:23:16.299 --> 00:23:28.379 Um, I just think it's it's important to just do what you love and be authentically you and the people that need what you have and are attracted to who you are will naturally find you through all of it. 00:23:28.940 --> 00:23:31.179 Yeah, that's excellent advice. 00:23:31.740 --> 00:23:32.460 Thanks. 00:23:32.779 --> 00:23:38.940 You learn it, learn it sometimes the hard way, but I feel like someone else told me that once, so I had to step ahead. 00:23:39.179 --> 00:23:40.059 You did, you did. 00:23:40.139 --> 00:23:42.779 I mean, it is true because like you're also marking to show up. 00:23:42.940 --> 00:23:47.099 And I always remember like one of my big things I always remind myself is people do business with people they like. 00:23:47.179 --> 00:23:57.740 It's not even like we always want to think it's your expertise and all these things, and those things matter, but ultimately, like if people are like, I like this person, I'm gonna I'm gonna go work with them when they need you, and you're gonna be the person they give it to. 00:23:58.460 --> 00:24:02.539 Yeah, my dad told me when I was in chiropractic school, he's like, it's sad. 00:24:02.779 --> 00:24:08.859 The sad truth about our profession is like you could suck at adjusting and people will see you because they love you. 00:24:09.019 --> 00:24:11.339 And I'm like, But I hope that's not true about me. 00:24:11.579 --> 00:24:13.579 I hope I'm good at adjusting and they do like me. 00:24:14.299 --> 00:24:20.539 I like to think we have an obligation to be good at our craft and keep trying to be good at it, but uh it is true. 00:24:20.700 --> 00:24:29.339 I mean, I think the the biggest practices are those with people who are charismatic, likable, and understand you know how to connect with people. 00:24:29.579 --> 00:24:35.899 Um, because if you can't do that, it does not matter how skillful you are, unfortunately. 00:24:36.779 --> 00:24:39.179 I can attest that Callie is a great adjuster. 00:24:39.500 --> 00:24:44.139 Yeah, because you're a scholars of chiropractors. 00:24:45.339 --> 00:25:21.339 Um I think that's you touched on a lot of great things, Callie, and I think nowadays we're really seeing a deterioration of this where people aren't leading their business with values and they're not leading business with customer experience of the face-to-face model, and everything has become so whitewashed, everything's become so disconnected that when you do come from a pa place of actual concern and um connection, people just gobble it up. 00:25:23.179 --> 00:25:33.579 Yeah, I think we're kind of um, I think the tide is turning of people wanting to get away from social media and wanting to get away from like like people are craving community. 00:25:33.740 --> 00:25:35.019 I really think that's true. 00:25:35.259 --> 00:25:45.339 And I think we're gonna see a big change in the next few years of people like wanting to get dumb phones again and wanting to actually like have face-to-face interactions. 00:25:45.579 --> 00:25:54.379 Um I've always been that way, so I think people are just sick and tired of not having that true community, and then I feel like AI is only speeding that up. 00:25:54.460 --> 00:25:58.619 So if you have a community, it's beneficial, it's like beneficial for sure. 00:25:58.859 --> 00:26:01.740 Um yeah, we could talk about AI. 00:26:01.819 --> 00:26:02.859 That's always wild. 00:26:03.179 --> 00:26:05.259 That's a whole nother that's a whole nother podcast. 00:26:05.500 --> 00:26:06.299 It really is. 00:26:06.460 --> 00:26:14.460 Um, I always I hear people like talk about if you're not using AI in your practice, and I'm just like, I hate companies that use AI. 00:26:15.740 --> 00:26:18.220 I feel like for certain things it can be good. 00:26:18.379 --> 00:26:21.019 Let me actually this morning. 00:26:22.139 --> 00:26:23.740 Anthropology had a great sale. 00:26:23.899 --> 00:26:25.899 I accidentally bought two of the same dresses. 00:26:26.700 --> 00:26:31.500 But you can't return it when it's final sale, when it's a sale on sale like that. 00:26:31.579 --> 00:26:34.379 And I was like, I need to contact someone because clearly it was a mistake. 00:26:34.460 --> 00:26:35.899 Who buys two of the exact same dresses? 00:26:36.700 --> 00:26:37.259 So I get on. 00:26:37.899 --> 00:26:50.379 My only option was to use a chat bot or I had to like call and I waited 45 minutes to get a real person because I was like, I need to talk to a real person because the chat bot can't help me. 00:26:50.539 --> 00:26:54.139 They can only tell me, like, oh, your orders and this is your

order number. 00:26:55.419 --> 00:26:58.859 And finally, when I got a real person, they were lovely and very helpful. 00:26:59.019 --> 00:27:04.059 But I was like, it should not take me, it should not be the hard thing to get to a real person. 00:27:06.299 --> 00:27:07.659 Or it's almost impossible. 00:27:07.819 --> 00:27:11.099 Even insurance companies, we have that issue in our practice right now. 00:27:11.259 --> 00:27:15.579 Like we can't get a hold of people from insurance companies to ask them questions on complicated cases. 00:27:16.539 --> 00:27:17.339 Which I think should be. 00:27:21.419 --> 00:27:30.700 Yeah, we have issues with our EHR system every once in a while, and it like anytime you try to reach out to them or like ask any questions, you can't get a hold of a dang person, and it's so frustrating. 00:27:30.779 --> 00:27:33.899 I'm like, I'm literally trying to work today and I can't because your system's down. 00:27:34.539 --> 00:27:37.579 I feel if we pay a lot, I would prefer you to like do a good job. 00:27:37.899 --> 00:27:40.619 Yes, yes, exactly, exactly. 00:27:40.779 --> 00:27:42.460 But there's a time and place for AI. 00:27:42.539 --> 00:27:47.659 I think um, I think we'll figure it out as it becomes more of a commonplace. 00:27:48.059 --> 00:27:53.579 If you want to hear a little bit about outside of the business, you also do mission trips, is that right? 00:27:54.859 --> 00:27:56.460 I just got back from one. 00:27:56.700 --> 00:27:59.099 Um, I've done some Cairo mission trips. 00:27:59.419 --> 00:28:01.980 Can we talk a little bit about that and how you got into that? 00:28:02.379 --> 00:28:03.579 Yeah, yeah. 00:28:03.740 --> 00:28:08.220 Um, so the first trip I ever did was in El Salvador. 00:28:08.379 --> 00:28:11.259 And if you asked me the name of the mission team, I couldn't even tell you. 00:28:11.339 --> 00:28:13.500 It was back when I was right in Cairo school. 00:28:13.740 --> 00:28:15.740 Um, but that was a really cool experience. 00:28:15.980 --> 00:28:25.179 We kind of just like showed up in El Salvador with tables, and they put us on a street corner, and people just showed up and we adjusted them, and it was just amazing. 00:28:25.339 --> 00:28:26.379 Like that's hilarious. 00:28:27.980 --> 00:28:30.139 Yeah, it was it was wild. 00:28:30.299 --> 00:28:31.899 I was just telling the story recently. 00:28:34.139 --> 00:28:42.779 There's like these two busy roads, the two busiest roads in this tiny little El Salvadorian town, and people were just lined up. 00:28:42.859 --> 00:28:53.899 We have they had like those white plastic lawn chairs seated around, and then we set up our tables, and just people just laid down, and you just they don't speak any English, you just adjust them and they go on their way. 00:28:54.139 --> 00:28:55.899 It was it was insane. 00:28:57.179 --> 00:29:01.099 But uh I was actually just telling a story recently. 00:29:02.379 --> 00:29:17.019 We were there, and uh, it was there's two schools that went people from Logan University and people from the Texas College, and we were on this corner, and this guy showed up, he couldn't even walk. 00:29:17.179 --> 00:29:26.700 Someone literally he was like on a mat, and four people were carrying him to the corner that we were sitting at, and they were asking for help. 00:29:26.779 --> 00:29:32.139 One of the translators was telling us that he had gotten hit by one of the passenger vans. 00:29:32.220 --> 00:29:41.259 He was on a uh a moped, and he got hit by one of these passenger vans, flew in the air, landed on the concrete, and he couldn't walk. 00:29:41.419 --> 00:29:47.500 And he just shows up to these little chiropractic students on the side of the road. 00:29:47.980 --> 00:29:51.500 And these Texas students are like, We don't know what to do, you know. 00:29:51.579 --> 00:29:57.740 I I guess they teach diversified there, and there's only two Logan students at this particular site. 00:29:57.899 --> 00:30:05.819 It was me and uh one of my classmates, and they were like, You guys need to do Logan Basic because we can't adjust the sky, he can't walk. 00:30:06.139 --> 00:30:14.220 And uh my my classmate was like, I don't want to touch this guy, and I'm like, We're not gonna hurt him, let's lay him down, let's see what we can do. 00:30:14.460 --> 00:30:20.059 And we did, I did a Logan Basic adjustment on this guy, and he literally got up off the table and walked away. 00:30:20.220 --> 00:30:24.059 It was it was like if you don't believe in chiropractic, that was the thing. 00:30:24.220 --> 00:30:29.179 That that was the thing you're like, okay, like I'm sold, let's let's do this. 00:30:29.899 --> 00:30:33.819 But that was probably my most miraculous stories. 00:30:34.299 --> 00:30:35.980 Yeah, that was really cool. 00:30:36.220 --> 00:30:39.339 Um, and then I've been to Mexico on a missions trip. 00:30:39.419 --> 00:30:43.339 That was through a rotary club out of Arkansas of all places. 00:30:43.500 --> 00:30:45.419 Uh, I believe they're still doing that trip. 00:30:45.500 --> 00:30:48.299 It was kind of dwindling, it was right before COVID. 00:30:48.379 --> 00:30:58.299 I got actually thought I was gonna be stuck in Mexico because we it was the March of 2020, and we were in Mexico for that trip, and everything shut down. 00:30:58.940 --> 00:31:02.700 Um, and then oh, it was crazy. 00:31:02.940 --> 00:31:07.740 But we did those ones for my Cairo trips, and then this last one I went on was in Africa. 00:31:07.899 --> 00:31:09.899 We just got back on Sunday. 00:31:10.059 --> 00:31:20.139 My husband and I went there to help at a Christian, it's called Bethlehem Christian Academy, and they help children break the cycle of poverty. 00:31:20.299 --> 00:31:30.539 So these villages in Africa, if kids don't get educated, they just remain in this cycle of just no English, no education, no food. 00:31:30.700 --> 00:31:38.299 Uh so they give them an education, they teach them about the gospel,

they feed them lunch every day, and um, it's pretty amazing. 00:31:38.379 --> 00:31:39.659 It was such an amazing trip. 00:31:39.819 --> 00:31:47.980 I literally could talk about that for an hour, but um it's just a whole different world in Africa, and I literally didn't want to come back. 00:31:48.220 --> 00:31:49.899 What country were you in? 00:31:50.460 --> 00:31:54.220 We were in Zambia, it's like South Central Africa. 00:31:54.619 --> 00:31:57.659 Yeah, what did you what did you do there? 00:31:58.859 --> 00:32:04.220 So we held a vacation Bible study for the school vacation Bible school for the school. 00:32:04.460 --> 00:32:20.700 Um, we did like um Bible studies and arts, and like I was helping with the sports stuff, and we made sure they had their lunches and their food, and we walked the villages and talked to some of the village people and asked them how there are ways we could pray for them, support them. 00:32:20.940 --> 00:32:23.019 Um, and then we've come back now. 00:32:23.099 --> 00:32:35.019 We're actually going to give a presentation at church on Sunday, and you just like get to know all these kids, and they're just they're such an affectionate, joy-filled group of people, and they literally have nothing. 00:32:35.419 --> 00:32:37.019 It's just remarkable. 00:32:37.179 --> 00:32:41.019 The human you were talking about community, like that's what I'm gonna talk about on Sunday. 00:32:41.179 --> 00:32:50.299 It's just like they we had to teach them competition, like we played a kickball game, and we had to teach them how to compete because they they couldn't wrap their heads around it. 00:32:50.460 --> 00:32:55.259 Like, it's just like we were born with that in America, yes, yeah, yeah. 00:32:55.659 --> 00:33:10.940 Yeah, compete on walks first, I feel like, yeah, right, but yeah, they were just like all about like you'd see high school aged boys walking around holding hands and um just talking and hanging out, and like here it's like that would be unheard of. 00:33:11.019 --> 00:33:12.859 Like you'd get made fun of for doing that. 00:33:13.980 --> 00:33:15.980 So we just help support the community. 00:33:16.220 --> 00:33:17.579 Yeah, that is amazing. 00:33:17.659 --> 00:33:19.099 It is, I do think it's a big lesson. 00:33:19.179 --> 00:33:29.500 I did study abroad in Ghana, Togo, and Benin, and so in West Africa, and so I did find that really interesting when people talk about like happiness and then like how hard things are. 00:33:29.659 --> 00:33:31.819 I'm like, people are gonna be happy. 00:33:31.980 --> 00:33:34.940 If you're a happy person, you're gonna find happiness no matter where you're at. 00:33:35.099 --> 00:33:39.579 And if you're not, you it does not matter what you get from, you're not gonna be a happy person. 00:33:39.659 --> 00:33:45.659 Yeah, it takes work to become that if that if you're not, um, but it's not ever gonna be like material things. 00:33:46.619 --> 00:33:48.220 You're doing a study abroad there,

you said. 00:33:48.379 --> 00:33:49.579 I did a study abroad there, yeah. 00:33:49.659 --> 00:33:51.740 And they were like, Oh, cool, so happy. 00:33:51.899 --> 00:34:01.819 And I'm not saying they didn't have hard things or have hard emotions, but I do sometimes feel like that's um not as sensitive to be like, oh, they're just happy people, like they're just running around being like, yay, life's all good. 00:34:01.980 --> 00:34:03.099 Like there's hardship, right? 00:34:03.179 --> 00:34:15.019 And you have the loss, you have these hard experiences, but they still find joy no matter what life looks like, and I think that's a huge lesson because it is ultimately a choice to have joy. 00:34:15.260 --> 00:34:17.500 Oh, yeah, for sure, for sure. 00:34:17.740 --> 00:34:21.740 Do you have future plans of doing more mission trips? 00:34:21.900 --> 00:34:29.260 Yeah, our church, our church is partnering with the this group for the next three years, so through 2030, they're gonna do Zambia. 00:34:29.500 --> 00:34:32.300 Our church does multiple, they do a Honduras trip. 00:34:32.380 --> 00:34:34.860 That would be a Cairo trip if I decided to go. 00:34:35.019 --> 00:34:36.619 Um, that's in March. 00:34:36.940 --> 00:34:47.019 But the the missionary there actually came to town to talk about her uh what they're doing there, and she hurt herself traveling, and she was like, Can you come see me? 00:34:47.099 --> 00:34:48.779 And or can I come see you? 00:34:49.019 --> 00:34:51.739 So I was like, Of course, just stop in, we'll take care of you. 00:34:51.900 --> 00:34:56.619 And she was like, You have to come to Honduras, you have to come and take care of some of our missionaries. 00:34:56.699 --> 00:35:04.860 They have a special needs school and um help with the kids there, so I have to decide whether or not I'm gonna do that, but yeah, I would go. 00:35:05.019 --> 00:35:08.779 Like, I literally, especially this last trip, like I don't even want to come back. 00:35:08.860 --> 00:35:15.820 Like, I just want to stay, I want to serve, but then you know, you come back to real life and realize there's responsibilities. 00:35:17.340 --> 00:35:20.139 Would you organize it for other chiropractors to go? 00:35:21.900 --> 00:35:25.259 I would consider doing that, yeah, for sure. 00:35:25.579 --> 00:35:27.099 There's a group that does it. 00:35:27.179 --> 00:35:30.299 There was just a group that I know of, at least in the Gonstead world. 00:35:30.380 --> 00:35:38.619 There's a doctor that she's retired, has been retired, and she's created a group that goes, I think they go to Spain or somewhere like that. 00:35:38.699 --> 00:35:43.420 I'm like, it's not very, I mean, that's a pretty affluent country. 00:35:45.500 --> 00:35:46.059 Very Western people. 00:35:46.460 --> 00:35:49.659 I also have a um Piropractice School, I believe, in Spain. 00:35:49.820 --> 00:35:50.219 In Spain. 00:35:51.659 --> 00:35:51.900 Mm-hmm. 00:35:52.139 --> 00:35:55.340 Yeah, pretty sure there is

a in Madrid, I believe. 00:35:55.579 --> 00:35:57.900 Um, because I've I've met other people that have gone over there. 00:35:57.980 --> 00:36:00.139 So like that's I don't know if I would call that a mission trip. 00:36:00.299 --> 00:36:02.059 They have access um to help more. 00:36:02.380 --> 00:36:18.299 There used to, I feel like there's been more mission trips um and people that would do them, and I haven't, and I might just be out of it, so I could be like not as accurate, but I know like when I first started, because I went to Palmer, they used to have a mission trip and they were like, no, we stopped doing that right before I went there, which I was a little disappointed in. 00:36:18.460 --> 00:36:23.659 Um but then I feel like I feel like it was very like popular when I was in school. 00:36:23.980 --> 00:36:34.460 Yeah, I don't think it's like yeah, and I feel like there also used to be different groups that would go as like you know, doctors that would go, and now I don't I a lot of them have like dwindled out. 00:36:34.619 --> 00:36:36.460 So like maybe this could be your next thing. 00:36:36.539 --> 00:36:37.980 You could take a whole group on a machine. 00:36:38.299 --> 00:36:39.099 Maybe, yeah. 00:36:39.340 --> 00:36:40.860 There you go, I would love to do that. 00:36:41.099 --> 00:36:48.299 I know, next endeavor, add another thing, add another thing, how it always gets one more thing, right? 00:36:48.779 --> 00:36:50.699 Dude, but we were in Zambia. 00:36:50.860 --> 00:36:57.019 There was this guy, and he had the worst right hip, right ilium, and he could barely walk. 00:36:57.179 --> 00:37:01.179 And I wanted to be like, listen, man, I know you don't know me, you probably don't know English. 00:37:01.340 --> 00:37:03.340 Just lay down, I'm gonna help you. 00:37:03.659 --> 00:37:10.860 But I just fell out of place to do that without without having some sort of you know explanation. 00:37:10.940 --> 00:37:12.699 And what language do they speak again? 00:37:14.299 --> 00:37:25.659 Most of the educated people speak English, uh, but they have a each in Zambia, there's different tribe, tribal languages, and so the the workplace that we were at, they speak Bemba. 00:37:25.980 --> 00:37:27.179 It's called Bemba. 00:37:27.659 --> 00:37:29.980 It's a very I think it's a hard language. 00:37:30.059 --> 00:37:30.940 There's a lot of syllables. 00:37:31.739 --> 00:37:40.860 You'd be like, good afternoon, everyone, and the translator would be like I literally just say good afternoon. 00:37:40.940 --> 00:37:43.420 I don't know how that was 27 syllables. 00:37:45.420 --> 00:37:49.739 So but yeah, I love it. 00:37:49.820 --> 00:37:50.380 I could do it all. 00:37:50.699 --> 00:37:51.659 I'm sure that is hard. 00:37:52.219 --> 00:37:54.699 Yeah, do you pick up on languages easy? 00:37:56.059 --> 00:38:03.259 Um, I know Spanish remotely well, but I don't know if I'd pick up on anything other than that. 00:38:03.420 --> 00:38:10.619 I would consider going to like a Spanish-speaking country and doing a mission there because I could at least make sure we don't die. 00:38:11.259 --> 00:38:12.940 Yeah, I bet it's always handy. 00:38:13.259 --> 00:38:14.059 It's important. 00:38:14.940 --> 00:38:16.299 Survival's important. 00:38:16.699 --> 00:38:19.019 I'm usually stepping all of it. 00:38:19.900 --> 00:38:23.980 Which in Honduras they do speak Spanish, so there you go. 00:38:24.219 --> 00:38:25.980 Already, already halfway there. 00:38:26.539 --> 00:38:27.739 Halfway there. 00:38:28.219 --> 00:38:29.900 That's a good idea though, Megan. 00:38:29.980 --> 00:38:31.579 I I would consider that. 00:38:31.659 --> 00:38:35.179 I'm sure my husband would love for me to be like, okay, I got another business idea. 00:38:35.420 --> 00:38:37.659 We're gonna do mission trips now with characters. 00:38:38.539 --> 00:38:45.500 If you only do it like once a year and it's already set, and you probably only need to take like 15 to 30 people if you put it on the groups. 00:38:45.659 --> 00:38:47.099 I bet you'd be sold out so fast. 00:38:47.340 --> 00:38:48.779 People would jump at that. 00:38:49.179 --> 00:38:50.219 Oh, yeah, for sure. 00:38:50.380 --> 00:38:52.619 Especially early docs or or even students. 00:38:52.699 --> 00:38:56.299 I mean, depending on the country you go to, yeah, it could be anyone. 00:38:56.539 --> 00:38:56.860 Yeah. 00:38:57.099 --> 00:38:58.539 Oh, I'm so excited for you to do this. 00:38:58.619 --> 00:38:59.900 We'll help sponsor you. 00:39:00.460 --> 00:39:00.860 Welcome. 00:39:01.179 --> 00:39:01.579 That's good. 00:39:01.739 --> 00:39:01.980 Yeah. 00:39:02.380 --> 00:39:03.579 Okay, that'd be so fun. 00:39:03.820 --> 00:39:04.940 It would be super fun. 00:39:05.019 --> 00:39:09.179 I just like traveling and doing cool activities and be so much fun. 00:39:09.420 --> 00:39:12.460 Um, do you get do you get to travel a lot, Megan? 00:39:12.539 --> 00:39:14.940 With you own your own your dad's old practice. 00:39:15.019 --> 00:39:15.420 Mm-hmm. 00:39:15.579 --> 00:39:15.980 Mm-hmm. 00:39:16.299 --> 00:39:21.579 And I I love traveling, so it is set up in our schedule to do it. 00:39:21.659 --> 00:39:23.900 I know a lot of chiropractors are like, this is so hard. 00:39:24.059 --> 00:39:25.179 How do we ever get away? 00:39:25.340 --> 00:39:27.019 You schedule it, that's how you do it. 00:39:27.099 --> 00:39:30.059 Um, and for longer trips, we luckily Skylar has came out and covered. 00:39:30.139 --> 00:39:32.860 So, like, we went to China this past when were we? 00:39:33.099 --> 00:39:34.139 Um, May, May. 00:39:34.619 --> 00:39:37.659 And Skylar came out covered for two weeks because she's pretty close with my family. 00:39:37.739 --> 00:39:45.259 So I probably guys always, and your family's on the coast, so uh, we're very, very grateful anytime she does that, and thankful for sure. 00:39:45.500 --> 00:39:46.299 How is China? 00:39:46.380 --> 00:39:47.099 That's amazing. 00:39:47.259 -->

00:39:48.380 I would love to go to China. 00:39:48.619 --> 00:39:50.860 Yeah, I recommend it 10 out of 10. 00:39:50.940 --> 00:40:06.299 It's nothing we definitely get propaganda over here, so it's not like it's very hard to know what it's going to be like because one, like in the last 15 years, they've poured billions of dollars into infrastructure for the people to raise people out of poverty. 00:40:06.380 --> 00:40:08.619 So that was like their mission to do in 15 years. 00:40:08.860 --> 00:40:12.139 So everything's very new and everything's very clean. 00:40:12.299 --> 00:40:15.659 Um, so they've literally like did incentives to change the culture. 00:40:15.820 --> 00:40:19.179 So trash now goes in trash cans, and there's people every morning cleaning. 00:40:19.259 --> 00:40:21.739 So everything's like the cleanest, it's like the cleanest country I've been to. 00:40:21.900 --> 00:40:25.579 And then um probably the safest because it's a surveillance place. 00:40:25.820 --> 00:40:31.179 Um, but also the people are just overall pretty nice, um, but still foreigners depending on where you're at. 00:40:31.259 --> 00:40:35.900 Like it was when we went to a smaller town, people were definitely like, what's this Wagaran doing here? 00:40:35.980 --> 00:40:42.619 You know, um, which is foreigner and Chinese, and they were like, not as into me being around, but not like anti. 00:40:42.940 --> 00:40:44.860 It was just more like this is interesting. 00:40:45.099 --> 00:40:52.940 But they just did a new visa, so I actually think that they're gonna end up having a big like tourism boom is the next thing. 00:40:53.900 --> 00:40:54.539 That's great. 00:40:54.699 --> 00:40:55.019 Cool. 00:40:55.259 --> 00:40:57.099 You travel a lot too, don't you, Skylar? 00:40:57.420 --> 00:41:00.940 Not as much as we used to before the bug. 00:41:01.179 --> 00:41:05.099 Not like big trips, like the China, like Megan going to China. 00:41:05.659 --> 00:41:07.500 I still think you guys should do a big trip. 00:41:07.579 --> 00:41:11.259 I don't think I guess I mean we could do a big trip, but we could never go to China. 00:41:11.579 --> 00:41:13.019 No, no, no, I don't think you're to China. 00:41:13.099 --> 00:41:15.019 I actually think you guys should do Europe. 00:41:16.139 --> 00:41:16.539 For sure. 00:41:16.940 --> 00:41:17.659 It's my husband. 00:41:17.900 --> 00:41:19.500 I have to I have to convince my husband. 00:41:19.980 --> 00:41:25.820 I know, I'm telling you, cheaper flights than the US flights, and then second, it's so kid friendly. 00:41:25.980 --> 00:41:27.019 They love children over there. 00:41:27.420 --> 00:41:30.539 You know what's so funny is Carrick you both know. 00:41:31.420 --> 00:41:33.900 My husband's an engineer, very analytical. 00:41:34.460 --> 00:41:40.059 One of my biggest bones with him, besides the picky eating Megan, or non-adventurous eating. 00:41:40.860 --> 00:41:45.179 Um, he takes so long to take in information. 00:41:45.500 --> 00:41:58.139 So I will mention things to him multiple times, and then he will come upon it from like an article or a video he saw, and he'll be like, Skylar, this thing, we should do it. 00:41:58.299 --> 00:42:01.259 And I'm like, Oh, that thing I told you about two years ago? 00:42:03.340 --> 00:42:16.860 So yesterday he saw Paul Saladino went to Spain to do this in your f in your phuresis, I forget what it's called, where he they like take out your blood, they put it through a centrifuge, they clean it, and then they put it back in. 00:42:16.940 --> 00:42:22.139 It's supposed to take out heavy metals, uh, pesticides, microplastics, or whatever. 00:42:22.539 --> 00:42:24.059 And he's like, We should do this. 00:42:24.139 --> 00:42:27.579 And I was like, Well, I remember reading about Paul Saladino doing that before. 00:42:27.659 --> 00:42:30.380 I'm pretty sure I told you, but it's in Spain. 00:42:30.539 --> 00:42:33.259 And I was like, Well, maybe yeah, let's go to Spain. 00:42:37.579 --> 00:42:39.099 Yeah, I got some peeps there. 00:42:39.420 --> 00:42:39.820 Yeah. 00:42:40.380 --> 00:42:42.619 I hope you get to go to Spain. 00:42:42.940 --> 00:42:44.139 Someday, someday. 00:42:44.460 --> 00:42:46.299 Just to do the blood cleaning. 00:42:47.579 --> 00:42:49.259 Really for the blood cleaning. 00:42:51.820 --> 00:42:52.940 That's awesome. 00:42:53.500 --> 00:42:54.539 Actually, it was fascinating. 00:42:54.779 --> 00:42:56.699 You both would probably be very interested in it. 00:42:57.019 --> 00:43:01.099 Remember that thing we did where it like pulled our blood out and ran it under a UV light? 00:43:01.340 --> 00:43:01.820 Yes. 00:43:01.980 --> 00:43:04.779 I think it is like that, but like the next level. 00:43:05.019 --> 00:43:05.980 Bigger, yeah. 00:43:06.219 --> 00:43:07.259 You would do something like that. 00:43:07.420 --> 00:43:08.699 Like the blood yeah. 00:43:08.860 --> 00:43:10.699 In your free side, yeah, whatever it's called. 00:43:11.099 --> 00:43:11.340 Yeah. 00:43:11.659 --> 00:43:12.860 I will do anything. 00:43:12.940 --> 00:43:14.460 I'll try anything once. 00:43:14.779 --> 00:43:16.139 I'm the adventurous friend. 00:43:16.219 --> 00:43:18.940 I'll do anything, especially when it comes to like monistic stuff. 00:43:19.259 --> 00:43:19.579 Yeah. 00:43:19.739 --> 00:43:20.860 But it's what's there to lose? 00:43:20.940 --> 00:43:21.739 It's not gonna hurt me. 00:43:21.900 --> 00:43:22.059 Yeah. 00:43:22.299 --> 00:43:24.539 What's some of the the stuff you've tried? 00:43:24.940 --> 00:43:25.739 Oh gosh. 00:43:25.980 --> 00:43:27.579 Have you done a coffee enema? 00:43:28.219 --> 00:43:29.980 I've done worse than that. 00:43:30.619 --> 00:43:35.019 I've done worse than a coffee enema. 00:43:36.059 --> 00:43:38.219 I've done a coffee colonic. 00:43:38.299 --> 00:43:40.139 Do you know what a colonic is? 00:43:41.019 --> 00:43:44.619 Oh, I've always wanted to try colonics. 00:43:45.579 --> 00:43:46.460 I've got a girl. 00:43:46.619

--> 00:43:47.739 She's very good. 00:43:47.980 --> 00:43:51.420 Um doesn't have to be with coffee. 00:43:52.460 --> 00:43:58.779 So um, I went actually, so you know, Skyler, you know a little bit about some of the health stuff I've been dealing with. 00:43:59.019 --> 00:44:04.059 I've been having this pitting edema in my ankles for it's probably been four years now. 00:44:04.219 --> 00:44:07.659 I I can't like something's wrong with my lymph system. 00:44:07.980 --> 00:44:13.099 And I saw this girl because she does the electromagnetic um lymph. 00:44:13.900 --> 00:44:19.980 I don't call it a massage because it's not a massage, but it's like this wand and it like moves your lymph systems. 00:44:20.219 --> 00:44:25.739 So I went to her for that, and she was like, I know this is gonna help, but it's kind of like putting the band-aid on it. 00:44:25.820 --> 00:44:28.380 Your lymph system is sluggish, and we can help it. 00:44:28.539 --> 00:44:33.820 But the reason your lymphs are sluggish is because your liver, so we need to clear out the liver, and the best way to do that is. 00:44:34.139 --> 00:44:40.219 To do a colonic, and so she kind of had to like talk me into it, and I was like, Okay, let's try it, whatever. 00:44:40.299 --> 00:44:41.739 I'll try anything once. 00:44:41.980 --> 00:44:44.940 So it's a three-step process. 00:44:45.179 --> 00:44:51.659 You do your first, it's three days within a week, and you do like water first. 00:44:52.059 --> 00:45:16.380 So do the water colonic, it takes about an hour, and then the second is coffee plus uh you do coffee twice, and then you do an aloe aloe vera and one other oh chlorophyll, so aloe vera and chlorophyll, and then the third visit is then I get another coffee with an aloe vera and chlorophyll. 00:45:16.460 --> 00:45:25.340 So you're kind of like clearing it out with the water first, then breaking it down with the coffee, and then trying to heal it and build it back up with the chlorophyll and aloe vera. 00:45:25.739 --> 00:45:26.619 Soothe it. 00:45:27.019 --> 00:45:28.219 Yeah, help soothe it. 00:45:28.539 --> 00:45:29.820 Did you notice a difference? 00:45:30.299 --> 00:45:36.539 Dude, the swelling in my ankles was completely gone until I flew for Africa. 00:45:38.139 --> 00:45:39.019 Of course. 00:45:39.980 --> 00:45:40.619 Let's book one. 00:45:40.699 --> 00:45:41.980 Let's book another session. 00:45:43.579 --> 00:45:44.699 That's exciting. 00:45:44.860 --> 00:45:51.900 But you found that for dude, it was it was it's I mean, you can make it as uncomfortable as you want to. 00:45:52.059 --> 00:45:54.940 I mean, this lady, she started off, she's very sweet. 00:45:55.099 --> 00:46:01.820 She started off and she goes, first, before we get started, I want to thank you for allowing me to take care of you in this way. 00:46:01.900 --> 00:46:03.980 I know this is a very intimate area. 00:46:04.139 --> 00:46:05.900 Um, so thank you for trusting me. 00:46:05.980 --> 00:46:08.219 And I was like, okay,

I'm in good hands, you know. 00:46:08.539 --> 00:46:13.420 So um, I mean it is your butt naked on a table. 00:46:13.579 --> 00:46:15.739 Not really, but from the waist down, you are. 00:46:15.980 --> 00:46:18.779 I was gonna say you have to go all the way naked, okay. 00:46:19.099 --> 00:46:20.619 No, just waist down. 00:46:21.179 --> 00:46:22.619 I need to document this. 00:46:23.259 --> 00:46:24.299 Okay, I'll do it. 00:46:24.380 --> 00:46:27.179 You know, uh social media on it. 00:46:27.500 --> 00:46:39.739 Well I've been taking, I think I've told both of you, letrozole to hopefully try and get pregnant, and every month they make you do an ultrasound with it, and it's not like an ultrasound on your belly, it's a transvaginal ultrasound. 00:46:40.380 --> 00:46:41.820 And you know what? 00:46:41.980 --> 00:46:47.099 I would take a colonic over that any day. 00:46:47.420 --> 00:46:48.539 It's intense, yeah. 00:46:48.779 --> 00:46:49.659 All right, Callie. 00:46:49.739 --> 00:46:51.340 I'm gonna need the name of your lady. 00:46:51.579 --> 00:46:52.619 Okay, I'm intrigued. 00:46:54.460 --> 00:46:56.380 It's it's really it's really interesting. 00:46:56.619 --> 00:47:07.739 She told me, like, because you she watches what comes out in a tube, like there's a clear tube where she can see what comes out, and she's like, I've watched parasites come out, like try to swim against the stream. 00:47:07.980 --> 00:47:14.619 I've seen I've seen gallstones come out, I've seen like it's called this mossy. 00:47:14.940 --> 00:47:15.980 It's fascinating. 00:47:16.699 --> 00:47:17.500 It's really cool. 00:47:22.860 --> 00:47:24.380 I'd be very interested. 00:47:24.940 --> 00:47:26.779 Yeah, no, I find this interesting. 00:47:26.940 --> 00:47:30.139 This alternative like experiences, I have so many questions. 00:47:30.860 --> 00:47:34.219 Well, I think what's cool is there's so many options. 00:47:34.299 --> 00:47:42.619 Like Callie, you said you for four years you've had you struggled with this pinning edema, your sluggish lymph, and like this, you saw great results. 00:47:42.779 --> 00:47:46.940 Whereas I'm sure a doctor would be like, Hmm, drink some more water. 00:47:47.980 --> 00:47:51.820 Yeah, do electrolytes, or they probably prescribe a medicine. 00:47:52.619 --> 00:47:55.259 Yeah, right, to shut off the lymph system. 00:47:57.340 --> 00:47:58.059 It's crazy. 00:47:58.219 --> 00:47:58.619 I don't know. 00:47:58.699 --> 00:47:59.179 I've tried everything. 00:47:59.259 --> 00:48:00.219 I'm sure something like that. 00:48:01.420 --> 00:48:03.259 Yeah, it's the only thing that's helped us. 00:48:03.900 --> 00:48:08.059 Do you even know why it's happening outside of just lymphatic dysfunction? 00:48:09.340 --> 00:48:09.659 No. 00:48:10.139 --> 00:48:12.940 I mean, I don't I've always had swollen lymph nose. 00:48:13.019 --> 00:48:15.659 Even when I was a kid, I could feel my lymphs in my neck. 00:48:15.820 --> 00:48:19.820 My sister used to call me an alien because no one else in our family had them. 00:48:20.299 --> 00:48:23.340 But uh I have no idea. 00:48:23.579 --> 00:48:28.539 My dad always had swollen, he always wore compression socks when he worked because he got swollen feet. 00:48:28.619 --> 00:48:37.420 He I'm sure he still does, but he never really like he's kind of a typical man, like meh, I'll put the socks on, let it go. 00:48:37.659 --> 00:48:39.659 That boomer age group of men, you know. 00:48:39.900 --> 00:48:41.500 Yeah, he should maybe get that checked. 00:48:41.579 --> 00:48:43.500 Maybe he should try this with me next time. 00:48:44.380 --> 00:48:46.539 That would be such an awkward conversation. 00:48:46.779 --> 00:48:50.299 Hey dad, you're gonna get this tooth just stuck up your butt. 00:48:52.619 --> 00:48:54.460 Yeah, you know, he might be open to it. 00:48:54.619 --> 00:48:56.460 It's gonna help your swelling, you're allowed. 00:48:57.340 --> 00:48:58.380 He's like me though. 00:48:58.460 --> 00:48:59.980 He's like, Yeah, I'll try it. 00:49:00.299 --> 00:49:02.539 If it's if there's not needles involved, he'll try it. 00:49:02.699 --> 00:49:03.579 I'm with him on that. 00:49:03.659 --> 00:49:06.059 As long as there's not needles, that stresses me out so much. 00:49:06.299 --> 00:49:07.259 Yeah, me too. 00:49:07.340 --> 00:49:09.259 I hate needles, could never. 00:49:10.539 --> 00:49:12.779 We are coming to an end of the podcast, though. 00:49:12.940 --> 00:49:15.659 What is some things you'd like to leave the listeners with? 00:49:18.619 --> 00:49:24.619 I think by like I meant we mentioned earlier, just taking care of people and loving people well. 00:49:24.699 --> 00:49:26.860 I that's I mean, I live my life by that. 00:49:27.019 --> 00:49:30.380 If you can love people well, they're gonna treat you well. 00:49:30.619 --> 00:49:33.900 Um, and community is the best place to be. 00:49:34.059 --> 00:49:38.460 I mean, I I talk about it all the time, even with my patients in my office. 00:49:38.619 --> 00:49:39.820 Like, who's supporting you? 00:49:39.900 --> 00:49:41.259 Who's who's in your circle? 00:49:41.340 --> 00:49:42.619 Who do you have around you? 00:49:42.860 --> 00:49:52.860 Um, if you're a chiropractic student, a doctor, like whoever, who anyone in any field, in any industry, parents, especially moms, like find your people. 00:49:53.259 --> 00:49:55.019 Skylar's one of my people. 00:49:55.340 --> 00:50:02.539 Um, and just you know, find your people and lean on them when you need to. 00:50:02.699 --> 00:50:11.099 I think it's easy, like you said, to kind of get in our own little Cairo Island life, distracted by business, and it's easy to just let things fall off the wayside. 00:50:11.340 --> 00:50:14.539 So, yeah. 00:50:14.699 --> 00:50:18.940 Well, that's great advice, and thank you so much for being on our podcast at the table. 00:50:19.739 --> 00:50:20.779 Yeah, thanks for having me.