Full Transcript for Roy Cathey From The Fifth A New Album And Open Road To Roam We Are One

00:03:25.719 --> 00:03:27.599 greatest accomplishment that I've ever done. 80 00:03:27.719 --> 00:03:29.680 What a lot of people don't know about North Carolina 81 00:03:29.840 --> 00:03:33.520 is that Harris Teeter. They now feature live music on 82 00:03:33.560 --> 00:03:36.800 Thursday nights inside the inside the grocery store at their bars, 83 00:03:37.360 --> 00:03:40.840 and you know, talk about a breeding ground for the 84 00:03:40.879 --> 00:03:42.919 next generation of those that will rise. 85 00:03:44.360 --> 00:03:47.159 Well, you know, I mean, North Carolina has always had 86 00:03:47.599 --> 00:03:51.800 a lot of fantastic musicians coming from here. It's just 87 00:03:51.879 --> 00:03:56.120 because we're not, you know, geographically located at a at 88 00:03:56.120 --> 00:03:59.599 a glamorous place like LA or New York or Nashville 89 00:03:59.680 --> 00:04:02.599 or you know, Miami, where we. 90 00:04:02.599 --> 00:04:03.879 Tend to be overlooked. 91 00:04:03.960 --> 00:04:07.439 But you know, a lot of great bands from country 92 00:04:07.520 --> 00:04:10.719 to roth to you know, you name it, have come 93 00:04:10.800 --> 00:04:12.240 right here from the Tar Hill State. 94 00:04:12.479 --> 00:04:14.879 Wow. Wow, we got to talk about your new album. 95 00:04:15.479 --> 00:04:17.720 You know, I keep waiting for that one album that's 96 00:04:17.759 --> 00:04:20.360 going to break us back into a great rock moment. 97 00:04:20.439 --> 00:04:22.680 And I think that this album has got a vibe 98 00:04:22.720 --> 00:04:24.720 to it that we are really going to take into 99 00:04:24.759 --> 00:04:27.360 the summer of twenty twenty five. That because I'm an 100 00:04:27.439 --> 00:04:29.240 r VR, this is the kind of stuff that I 101 00:04:29.439 --> 00:04:32.759 like to crank up when I'm sitting there at the campsite. 102 00:04:33.079 --> 00:04:35.800 Well, you know, it's it's funny that you bring that up, 103 00:04:35.879 --> 00:04:38.240 because you know, me and my girl, we're talking about 104 00:04:38.240 --> 00:04:40.399 it the other day because we did we did a 105 00:04:40.519 --> 00:04:43.959 drive up to coming back from Baltimore, Maryland. The band 106 00:04:44.000 --> 00:04:49.079 did a M three pre party performance and it's it's 107 00:04:49.120 --> 00:04:51.839 a great driving record, you know. It's one of those 108 00:04:51.879 --> 00:04:54.319 that you could put on and just you know, put 109 00:04:54.360 --> 00:04:57.199 the pedal to the metal and it's a good. 110 00:04:57.079 --> 00:05:01.480 Traveling collection of songs. But you know, the main thing 111 00:05:01.519 --> 00:05:03.920 that I'm most proud of about. 112 00:05:03.639 --> 00:05:07.319 The record is the fact that, you know, we really 113 00:05:07.399 --> 00:05:10.680 tried to make sure that every song had a lot 114 00:05:10.720 --> 00:05:13.120 of substance to it and to coin. 115 00:05:12.879 --> 00:05:14.399 The old Mark Ferrari phase. 116 00:05:14.759 --> 00:05:16.800 You know, I'd like to think that it's all killer, 117 00:05:17.199 --> 00:05:21.360 no filler, you know, And you know, I want the 118 00:05:21.439 --> 00:05:24.160 fans to get their money's worth, you know. 119 00:05:24.360 --> 00:05:27.720 I mean times are hard, the economy is hard. You know, 120 00:05:28.160 --> 00:05:29.079 if you can get. 121 00:05:28.959 --> 00:05:34.000 Fans twelve solid songs and they spend their money on it. 122 00:05:34.120 --> 00:05:36.959 You know, I feel like we've done done our part. 123 00:05:37.279 --> 00:05:39.319 See, and I believe that we have now entered a 124 00:05:39.360 --> 00:05:41.240 new age of listening to music in the way that 125 00:05:41.279 --> 00:05:43.800 we don't want a variety of music. We want one band, 126 00:05:44.000 --> 00:05:46.399 one album, give me the experience and let me go 127 00:05:46.399 --> 00:05:48.759 out and talk about it right. 128 00:05:48.680 --> 00:05:51.920 Right well, you know, I mean, you know, I'm a child. 129 00:05:51.680 --> 00:05:54.600 Of the eighties, and I come from the era where 130 00:05:54.879 --> 00:05:57.399 we held our music very close to our hearts. 131 00:05:57.439 --> 00:06:02.240 You know. We would get those new records and the CDs. 132 00:06:01.800 --> 00:06:03.879 And we would open them up and you know, look 133 00:06:03.879 --> 00:06:07.439 at where it was recorded and read the liner notes, 134 00:06:07.519 --> 00:06:10.319 and you know, it's something that. 135 00:06:10.279 --> 00:06:12.680 We held close to our heart. 136 00:06:12.759 --> 00:06:15.759 We could hear songs and it would, you know, just 137 00:06:15.800 --> 00:06:17.879 put us in a time machine back to a certain 138 00:06:17.920 --> 00:06:20.199 time that was going on in our lives, you know, 139 00:06:20.959 --> 00:06:23.319 And a lot of that has been lost because for 140 00:06:23.759 --> 00:06:26.560 the past couple of generations, you know, music is a 141 00:06:26.600 --> 00:06:31.120 downloadable piece of content on somebody's phone. And I really 142 00:06:31.160 --> 00:06:33.600 wanted to put a record out and thanks to Ron 143 00:06:33.759 --> 00:06:37.279 at RFK Media, we've got the whole package with this thing. 144 00:06:37.319 --> 00:06:39.319 It's a beautiful it's a beautiful CD. 145 00:06:39.480 --> 00:06:43.000 It's a beautiful product, you know, and it looks great 146 00:06:43.079 --> 00:06:45.240 and it sounds great, and we've got. 147 00:06:45.120 --> 00:06:47.360 Twelve great songs, and I feel like the fans are 148 00:06:47.399 --> 00:06:48.319 going to love it. Dude. 149 00:06:48.639 --> 00:06:50.519 I work with the guy his name is Chance. He 150 00:06:50.560 --> 00:06:53.000 must be twenty one years old, and he's collecting albums 151 00:06:53.079 --> 00:06:55.839 and every day I try to give him a new album. 152 00:06:56.079 --> 00:06:58.399 And that's one of the things that that these the 153 00:06:58.439 --> 00:07:00.439 younger generation, I don't even

want to look them at 154 00:07:00.439 --> 00:07:02.480 as that. I think they're old souls dressed up in 155 00:07:02.560 --> 00:07:05.600 kids clothes is what I think they are. They want albums, 156 00:07:05.639 --> 00:07:07.680 they want to look at that inside sleeve. 157 00:07:09.079 --> 00:07:12.079 Well you know, I mean slowly, but surely, you know, 158 00:07:12.279 --> 00:07:16.000 that kind of stuff is coming back. And yeah, you know, 159 00:07:16.079 --> 00:07:19.000 my kids are a perfect example. They're old souls. You know, 160 00:07:19.120 --> 00:07:22.959 my kids. They don't like the current music, they don't 161 00:07:23.040 --> 00:07:26.439 like current fashion. They're not chasing the latest trend. My 162 00:07:26.519 --> 00:07:30.279 kids shop at thrift stores and you know they're they're 163 00:07:30.720 --> 00:07:34.240 you know, they like older music, you know, and the 164 00:07:34.240 --> 00:07:36.839 apple didn't fall far from the tree. My son, my 165 00:07:36.959 --> 00:07:39.800 son is a lead singer in a metal band and 166 00:07:40.199 --> 00:07:42.480 they've got four EPs out on their tour and all 167 00:07:42.480 --> 00:07:44.879 over the East Coast right now. So I'm really proud 168 00:07:44.879 --> 00:07:48.319 of him. But you know, I mean the kids nowadays 169 00:07:48.319 --> 00:07:52.120 are slowly but surely starting to realize that, you know, 170 00:07:52.759 --> 00:07:56.399 music means so much more because there's so much emotion 171 00:07:56.600 --> 00:08:01.399 involved in it. And you know, not downgrade in any 172 00:08:01.439 --> 00:08:04.439 other forms of media. You know, but movies are great 173 00:08:04.519 --> 00:08:07.160 and and all that stuff is great, and video games 174 00:08:07.160 --> 00:08:07.560 are great. 175 00:08:07.680 --> 00:08:10.439 Where we live in a in an age. 176 00:08:10.120 --> 00:08:15.120 Of technology, but there's just something real and organic about 177 00:08:15.279 --> 00:08:22.000 music because it touches your soul. It brings out true emotions, 178 00:08:22.160 --> 00:08:26.600 and that's something that other forms of media can't necessarily do. Now, 179 00:08:26.639 --> 00:08:29.759 there's some books out there and some writers and literature 180 00:08:29.800 --> 00:08:31.959 that's that's absolutely in the same vein. 181 00:08:32.480 --> 00:08:36.200 But to me, music can take you to different. 182 00:08:35.840 --> 00:08:39.360 Places emotionally, and that's how I've always tried to write. 183 00:08:39.480 --> 00:08:41.639 As far as my lyrics and melodies. 184 00:08:41.200 --> 00:08:43.919 Go, well, I've always thought that that music has always been, 185 00:08:44.000 --> 00:08:46.120 you know, the bigger and better than Southern preachers. But 186 00:08:46.559 --> 00:08:48.960 and you know, obviously Stephen Ferdick must understand that because 187 00:08:49.000 --> 00:08:50.559 look at what he's doing with his music. I mean, 188 00:08:50.679 --> 00:08:53.240 it's amazing how

you guys with your lyrics and with 189 00:08:53.320 --> 00:08:55.440 your music can change a person's life. 190 00:08:56.600 --> 00:08:59.159 Well, yeah, you know, I mean going back into the 191 00:08:59.200 --> 00:09:01.799 fifth catalog. You know, I wrote a song called One 192 00:09:01.840 --> 00:09:05.000 More Day and it was therapy for me when my 193 00:09:05.120 --> 00:09:08.919 father passed away, because he was the greatest influence. 194 00:09:08.399 --> 00:09:09.120 In my life. 195 00:09:09.559 --> 00:09:12.720 And you know, you just don't realize how your art 196 00:09:12.879 --> 00:09:16.279 can touch other people, because I've had so many people 197 00:09:16.279 --> 00:09:19.559 come up to me or send me messages, but mostly 198 00:09:19.600 --> 00:09:21.840 come up to me at shows and go, hey, man, 199 00:09:21.960 --> 00:09:24.600 I just want to let you know that song one 200 00:09:24.639 --> 00:09:27.799 More Day that really helped me get through the death 201 00:09:27.879 --> 00:09:31.399 of my mother or my best friend or you know, 202 00:09:31.519 --> 00:09:33.600 my father passed away, and I know you wrote it 203 00:09:33.639 --> 00:09:36.159 about your dad, and I just want to thank you 204 00:09:36.200 --> 00:09:40.360 for writing that song because it really helped me process 205 00:09:40.480 --> 00:09:43.960 everything that I was feeling. And you know, I'm one 206 00:09:43.960 --> 00:09:46.559 of those guys that, you know, I might not have 207 00:09:46.600 --> 00:09:49.840 gotten super rich and super famous, but I've had so 208 00:09:49.919 --> 00:09:53.559 many experiences like that with real people and real fans. 209 00:09:54.000 --> 00:09:57.000 I feel that that makes me wealthy beyond measure. Wow. 210 00:09:57.399 --> 00:09:59.720 So when you have a song like blind, I mean 211 00:10:00.080 --> 00:10:02.279 you didn't go into the studio to lay down the 212 00:10:02.320 --> 00:10:04.679 tracks knowing exactly how it was going to turn out. 213 00:10:04.919 --> 00:10:07.240 What was the first chance you took on it to 214 00:10:07.279 --> 00:10:09.799 go all right, give it a chance, let's. 215 00:10:09.639 --> 00:10:10.120 Go that way. 216 00:10:11.679 --> 00:10:14.240 Well, you know, with every one of these songs, and 217 00:10:14.279 --> 00:10:16.559 with any song that I start working on the lyrics 218 00:10:16.559 --> 00:10:19.559 and the melodies for, I kind of try and paint 219 00:10:19.600 --> 00:10:23.679 a mental picture of what it can be about. So 220 00:10:23.799 --> 00:10:25.919 I will sit there and I will just listen to 221 00:10:25.960 --> 00:10:30.919 the music over and over again and just almost picture 222 00:10:31.000 --> 00:10:36.399 myself sitting in a darkened movie theater and just kind 223 00:10:36.399 --> 00:10:38.840 of imagine what's going to go up on that on 224 00:10:38.919 --> 00:10:42.879 that screen. And I try and pull what emotions are 225 00:10:42.960 --> 00:10:46.639 the music's making me feel, and I just kind of 226 00:10:46.840 --> 00:10:49.080 take it take it from there, you know. I just 227 00:10:49.639 --> 00:10:52.879 I have a very unique way of writing my lyrics 228 00:10:53.279 --> 00:10:56.679 and my melodies. But mostly I mean it comes from 229 00:10:56.679 --> 00:10:59.759 me growing up in a household. You know, back in 230 00:10:59.799 --> 00:11:02.600 the early seventies and through the seventies, I had four 231 00:11:02.720 --> 00:11:06.679 sisters and I was just you know, enveloped with all 232 00:11:06.799 --> 00:11:12.679 these AM radio rock songs. And you know, back then, 233 00:11:12.799 --> 00:11:15.279 you know, you know, I've been through the desert with 234 00:11:15.440 --> 00:11:16.440 a horse with no name. 235 00:11:16.759 --> 00:11:16.960 You know. 236 00:11:17.039 --> 00:11:19.919 I stuff like that stuck with me through the years 237 00:11:19.960 --> 00:11:24.480 because I want to write lyrics and melodies that tell 238 00:11:24.519 --> 00:11:28.320 a story. I want our stuff to have substance, and 239 00:11:28.399 --> 00:11:30.960 I you know, I don't want it to just be 240 00:11:31.080 --> 00:11:33.639 about you know, hey, let's go out and party and 241 00:11:34.120 --> 00:11:37.720 chase tail and you know, I broke my share of 242 00:11:37.759 --> 00:11:38.679 that stuff back in the. 243 00:11:38.639 --> 00:11:39.559 Eighties and everything. 244 00:11:40.039 --> 00:11:43.279 But as I've progressed as a songwriter, I really want 245 00:11:43.720 --> 00:11:46.360 people to listen to myself and read the lyrics and 246 00:11:46.399 --> 00:11:47.639 go WHOA. 247 00:11:47.759 --> 00:11:47.919 You know. 248 00:11:48.320 --> 00:11:50.799 Yeah, But you would think that after all of these years, 249 00:11:50.840 --> 00:11:53.120 that horse with no name would eventually get a name 250 00:11:53.200 --> 00:11:55.480 like bird or a spot or something. 251 00:11:55.559 --> 00:11:58.480 Dude, you know, I think they made it a trigger 252 00:11:58.519 --> 00:11:59.919 at the end. I guess I don't know. 253 00:12:02.440 --> 00:12:04.519 So when you go into the studio, are you doing 254 00:12:04.559 --> 00:12:06.080 it with the full band? Are you doing it one 255 00:12:06.120 --> 00:12:06.840 track at a time? 256 00:12:10.399 --> 00:12:11.279 I lost you? Where'd you ca? 257 00:12:11.840 --> 00:12:13.639 My question is is that when you go into the studio, 258 00:12:13.679 --> 00:12:15.240 are you doing it as a full band? Are you 259 00:12:15.279 --> 00:12:17.240 doing it one track at a time? Are you guys together? 260 00:12:18.399 --> 00:12:24.200 Yes, we generally track altogether, and I'll generally already have 261 00:12:24.279 --> 00:12:27.879 a framework of you know what I'm going to be singing, 262 00:12:28.279 --> 00:12:30.919 and I'll sing a scratch track with the guys, so 263 00:12:30.960 --> 00:12:33.799 they kind of keep the energy of the song and 264 00:12:34.159 --> 00:12:35.480 kind of know where we're going. 265

00:12:36.519 --> 00:12:39.000 But then later I'll go in and track my vocals 266 00:12:39.000 --> 00:12:39.679 ony myself. 267 00:12:39.879 --> 00:12:42.519 Wow, wow, I got to tell you what when I 268 00:12:42.639 --> 00:12:45.639 learned that you were creating with McLaren the I mean, 269 00:12:45.799 --> 00:12:48.240 Saigon Kick was in my ninety five point one studio 270 00:12:48.279 --> 00:12:50.279 back in the early part of the nineteen nineties, and 271 00:12:50.879 --> 00:12:53.360 so I'm going, this is full circle for me. I 272 00:12:53.399 --> 00:12:55.759 mean it's like back then they would have never known 273 00:12:56.200 --> 00:12:58.679 who you are. And now we're talking tonight. 274 00:13:00.080 --> 00:13:02.480 Well, you know, me and Chris go back because he 275 00:13:02.639 --> 00:13:06.759 was in Cold Sweat with me, yes, and you know, 276 00:13:07.480 --> 00:13:09.799 Chris and me have remained friends through the years. 277 00:13:10.039 --> 00:13:11.559 And Cold Sweat was. 278 00:13:11.480 --> 00:13:14.519 Always one of those bands that we came in right 279 00:13:14.559 --> 00:13:17.519 at the tail end of the whole hair metal thing, 280 00:13:18.120 --> 00:13:20.799 and we didn't really get our just desserts. You know, 281 00:13:20.919 --> 00:13:24.600 we were signed to a terrible label, our timing was terrible. 282 00:13:25.000 --> 00:13:28.879 But anybody that saw the band or picked up that CD, 283 00:13:29.720 --> 00:13:32.519 they knew that there was something really special about the band. 284 00:13:32.919 --> 00:13:36.200 Put together just a really great band, and we wrote 285 00:13:36.240 --> 00:13:43.000 some really great songs. And Chris was always that super musical. 286 00:13:42.519 --> 00:13:43.799 Guy in the band. 287 00:13:43.919 --> 00:13:46.799 He was great with harmonies and he was just great 288 00:13:46.840 --> 00:13:51.000 with sounds and textures and everything. And when we got 289 00:13:51.039 --> 00:13:54.600 signed to RFK Media and we started discussing, you know, 290 00:13:54.720 --> 00:13:57.440 producers and so on and so forth, I was the 291 00:13:57.480 --> 00:14:00.360 one that suggested using Chris. 292 00:14:00.840 --> 00:14:03.840 I already loved Chris as a person. 293 00:14:04.200 --> 00:14:07.679 I already knew that Chris was a musical person and 294 00:14:07.720 --> 00:14:10.759 he would be perfect to work for. And Chris is 295 00:14:10.840 --> 00:14:13.080 kind of in that stage in his life and his 296 00:14:13.200 --> 00:14:16.480 career that he's wanting to get into more of the 297 00:14:16.519 --> 00:14:20.240 production side of it. So this record with the FED 298 00:14:20.600 --> 00:14:26.039 is Chris's first producer gig, and I think he just 299 00:14:26.080 --> 00:14:28.679 did a phenomenal job with the record. 300 00:14:28.759 --> 00:14:31.120 Yeah, because that's a shift of energy. That's not you 301 00:14:31.240 --> 00:14:33.440 being in the studio, that's being behind that board and 302 00:14:33.519 --> 00:14:36.200 making sure that what you're listening to is effective in 303 00:14:36.240 --> 00:14:38.480 the way of you received it on that board. And 304 00:14:38.480 --> 00:14:40.720 now you've got to pass it on to us. 305 00:14:40.879 --> 00:14:41.080 Yeah. 306 00:14:41.200 --> 00:14:43.799 Not only that, you've got to massage the egos of 307 00:14:44.000 --> 00:14:47.360 bard the musicians, and you know, you've got to try 308 00:14:47.399 --> 00:14:50.360 and pull the best out of everybody, and you've got 309 00:14:50.360 --> 00:14:52.840 to you know, you got to tiptill around all that 310 00:14:52.960 --> 00:14:53.679 kind of stuff. 311 00:14:53.720 --> 00:14:54.799 And Chris is. 312 00:14:54.720 --> 00:14:57.759 The type of a person that he really did a 313 00:14:57.799 --> 00:15:00.559 great job of pulling the best out of it everybody. 314 00:15:00.600 --> 00:15:02.960 And I was already comfortable with Chris because of our 315 00:15:03.000 --> 00:15:06.159 friendship and our past with Cold Sweat. But you know, 316 00:15:06.399 --> 00:15:11.639 in the studio when we started tracking vocals, it was 317 00:15:11.759 --> 00:15:14.879 just so easy, and it was just he was able 318 00:15:14.960 --> 00:15:18.159 to just make me feel so at ease and he 319 00:15:18.360 --> 00:15:22.279 knew what I could do. And we tracked the vocals 320 00:15:22.399 --> 00:15:26.080 actually at our manager's house in Charleston, South Carolina. He 321 00:15:26.080 --> 00:15:29.559 has a beautiful home that's on the waterway, and he, 322 00:15:29.720 --> 00:15:30.159 you know, we. 323 00:15:30.200 --> 00:15:32.559 Set up he brought his laptop and his pro tools 324 00:15:32.600 --> 00:15:35.639 rig and just set up a microphone in this huge, 325 00:15:35.759 --> 00:15:39.080 you know, lovely living area that he has with these 326 00:15:39.159 --> 00:15:40.799 huge ceilings and all that stuff. 327 00:15:41.120 --> 00:15:42.919 And me and Chris, I mean, I would go and 328 00:15:42.960 --> 00:15:45.519 I would sing for six hours. I would come on, 329 00:15:45.759 --> 00:15:47.639 I would I would knock out. 330 00:15:48.279 --> 00:15:51.720 I would I would go down for a weekend and 331 00:15:51.799 --> 00:15:54.960 we would track on Saturday and Sunday and I would 332 00:15:55.000 --> 00:16:00.480 generally knock out three to four songs each day. And 333 00:16:01.639 --> 00:16:06.480 it was so much fun because Chris, Chris just knew 334 00:16:06.559 --> 00:16:09.320 how to how to manage me, you know, and he 335 00:16:09.399 --> 00:16:13.080 would be like, you know, all right, mister Cathy, I know. 336 00:16:13.039 --> 00:16:15.360 You got I know you've got something else in there. 337 00:16:15.840 --> 00:16:18.279 You know, try this, you know to what you know, 338 00:16:18.440 --> 00:16:22.240 he was able to kind of convince myself that I 339 00:16:22.279 --> 00:16:24.799 could do better. Whenever I already thought that I did 340 00:16:24.840 -->

00:16:27.159 the best that I could, Chris would be able to 341 00:16:27.279 --> 00:16:30.840 nudge me just a little bit and and you know, 342 00:16:30.919 --> 00:16:34.799 elevate me. And a great producer can turn a good 343 00:16:34.879 --> 00:16:38.480 song into a great song. And that's that's what he 344 00:16:38.559 --> 00:16:39.080 really did. 345 00:16:39.279 --> 00:16:41.240 I love those moments though, that you come up with 346 00:16:41.279 --> 00:16:44.080 an idea and they listen, and then you keep adding 347 00:16:44.080 --> 00:16:47.399 to it and they go hmm, and it's that hmmm 348 00:16:47.879 --> 00:16:49.960 where you go, Okay, I think he's getting it. Is 349 00:16:49.960 --> 00:16:50.399 he getting it? 350 00:16:50.480 --> 00:16:50.559 No? 351 00:16:50.679 --> 00:16:52.480 Maybe he's not. Let's figure out what he has to 352 00:16:52.480 --> 00:16:54.399 say now, right right. 353 00:16:54.799 --> 00:16:57.440 But Chris, you know, Chris had a very clear vision 354 00:16:57.679 --> 00:17:01.879 of what he wanted to do with these songs, and 355 00:17:02.720 --> 00:17:06.920 he added you know, he directed all the background vocals, 356 00:17:07.000 --> 00:17:10.480 and he sorted out all the melodies for us, you know, 357 00:17:11.240 --> 00:17:14.240 the textures of the acoustic guitars and the layering of 358 00:17:14.279 --> 00:17:19.000 the keyboards on certain songs. And I mean Chris was 359 00:17:19.119 --> 00:17:21.000 really the man behind the curtain. 360 00:17:21.480 --> 00:17:23.440 He wasn't heavy handed. 361 00:17:24.200 --> 00:17:28.119 Everything that he did added to the song, and it 362 00:17:28.240 --> 00:17:30.839 never kind of felt like he was, you know, overly 363 00:17:30.920 --> 00:17:35.039 producing because the record is still very raw. It's in 364 00:17:35.079 --> 00:17:39.200 your face rock record, but there's a lot of layers 365 00:17:39.359 --> 00:17:41.599 of ear candy on that thing. 366 00:17:41.680 --> 00:17:43.880 And that's what's great about. 367 00:17:43.680 --> 00:17:45.839 It being such a good listen as you could listen 368 00:17:45.839 --> 00:17:48.559 through it one time and then you go back again 369 00:17:49.119 --> 00:17:53.720 and you'll hear something else, you know, and it's really cool. 370 00:17:53.839 --> 00:17:54.079 You know. 371 00:17:54.400 --> 00:17:58.960 It's like, it took four listens for me for there's 372 00:17:59.000 --> 00:18:01.960 a track called ride Yep, which is basically about a 373 00:18:02.000 --> 00:18:05.759 gunslinger fleeing, you know, through through the desert to get 374 00:18:05.799 --> 00:18:09.000 to Mexico, and it took four listens for me to 375 00:18:09.079 --> 00:18:11.000 realize that he put castanets in the. 376 00:18:11.039 --> 00:18:12.240 Damn you know. 377 00:18:12.440 --> 00:18:15.440 There's a line where's across the border into Mexico and 378 00:18:15.519 --> 00:18:18.200 in the background you hear killy, you hear the castanets, 379 00:18:18.240 --> 00:18:21.240 and I'm like, holy shit, man, you know, I mean, 380 00:18:21.279 --> 00:18:24.039 it's just the good little things like that that just 381 00:18:24.160 --> 00:18:25.680 made the record super special. 382 00:18:26.119 --> 00:18:29.240 Do Not Move. Roy Kathy from the Fifth is coming 383 00:18:29.319 --> 00:18:32.000 up next with more of their oh my god, oh 384 00:18:32.039 --> 00:18:36.400 my god, unbelievable journey. Hey, thanks for coming back to 385 00:18:36.400 --> 00:18:39.319 my conversation with Roy Cathy of the group The Fifth, 386 00:18:39.599 --> 00:18:42.799 the name of the album We Are One. I remember 387 00:18:42.920 --> 00:18:46.440 during my last project, the the producer sat me down. 388 00:18:46.480 --> 00:18:49.960 He says, you wrote it, I get to produce it. Okay, 389 00:18:50.000 --> 00:18:52.240 So you gave me an idea and you trusted me, 390 00:18:52.440 --> 00:18:54.519 so you have to relinquish control and let me do 391 00:18:54.599 --> 00:18:56.279 my job. Have you had a moment like that? 392 00:18:59.319 --> 00:19:01.079 Not necessarily fairly, but yes. 393 00:19:01.359 --> 00:19:03.279 I mean in the early you know, with Cold Sweat, 394 00:19:03.279 --> 00:19:07.319 we were produced by Kevin beamss and and Kevin Beamish, 395 00:19:07.400 --> 00:19:11.519 you know he produced you know, Rio Speedwagon Keep on 396 00:19:11.599 --> 00:19:14.400 Loving You, and you know he's sold. You know, they 397 00:19:14.440 --> 00:19:16.880 went Diamond for God's sake, you know what I mean. 398 00:19:17.319 --> 00:19:20.799 So whenever somebody like that is producing it, you know 399 00:19:20.920 --> 00:19:23.599 you kind of just let him take the wheel and 400 00:19:24.559 --> 00:19:27.000 do whatever they say. But then again, back then, I 401 00:19:27.039 --> 00:19:29.279 was twenty three years old. I was a kid from 402 00:19:29.359 --> 00:19:31.440 North Carolina, fresh off the airplane. 403 00:19:31.839 --> 00:19:33.880 So I was just you know, happy to be there. 404 00:19:34.359 --> 00:19:37.759 But you know, so far, you know, working with Chris, 405 00:19:37.880 --> 00:19:40.599 it's it's been more of a you know, a mutual 406 00:19:40.720 --> 00:19:42.799 respect in us. All just wanted to put out the 407 00:19:42.839 --> 00:19:44.039 best product possible. 408 00:19:44.279 --> 00:19:46.160 I'm on this big kick right now of trying to 409 00:19:46.200 --> 00:19:49.240 convince fans of the band to put them put your 410 00:19:49.319 --> 00:19:51.680 music on their Spotify list. That to me is the 411 00:19:51.720 --> 00:19:55.240 new age of music promotion. Put them on your list 412 00:19:55.480 --> 00:19:58.640 so that people will land on your list and find. 413 00:19:58.359 --> 00:20:03.079 You well, you know, I mean, Spotify and the streaming 414 00:20:03.119 --> 00:20:06.359 sites are definitely you know what's going on right now. 415 00:20:06.440 --> 00:20:09.119 You know, before it was us kids going to the 416 00:20:09.200

--> 00:20:12.319 record stores every weekend at the mall and seeing what 417 00:20:12.440 --> 00:20:15.079 was playing and seeing what our friends were talking about 418 00:20:15.519 --> 00:20:18.319 and picking that stuff up. But you know, Spotify is 419 00:20:18.359 --> 00:20:20.559 something that you know, can make or break a band, 420 00:20:21.000 --> 00:20:23.839 and we're just now starting to, you know, get some 421 00:20:23.880 --> 00:20:26.680 attention with some of the streaming sites and everything. Because 422 00:20:27.079 --> 00:20:28.759 in every sense of the word, you know, we're an 423 00:20:28.799 --> 00:20:32.119 old school rock band. We tip our hats to our 424 00:20:32.240 --> 00:20:35.720 influences from the past, but you know, from listening to 425 00:20:35.759 --> 00:20:38.480 the record you could tell that there's a modern edge 426 00:20:38.559 --> 00:20:41.400 and sound to it. So I would like to think 427 00:20:41.440 --> 00:20:44.519 that if you know, skid Row and Shine Down had 428 00:20:44.519 --> 00:20:47.079 an alien sex baby, that it's kind of what the 429 00:20:47.119 --> 00:20:50.720 fifth is. You know, we're kind of like an eighties 430 00:20:50.799 --> 00:20:51.799 modern rock band. 431 00:20:52.039 --> 00:20:54.319 Do you sit back and I mean, just two weeks 432 00:20:54.319 --> 00:20:57.839 ago Charlotte had a three day, huge major music festival. 433 00:20:57.960 --> 00:20:59.799 Do you sit back and say, why the hell weren't 434 00:20:59.799 --> 00:21:00.079 we in? 435 00:21:01.799 --> 00:21:04.400 Well, you know, that's a whole other opera right there. 436 00:21:04.480 --> 00:21:04.680 You know. 437 00:21:04.920 --> 00:21:10.640 Just it's it's really tough out there getting booked. It's 438 00:21:10.640 --> 00:21:14.240 it's tough for new bands to break into new markets. 439 00:21:15.599 --> 00:21:16.759 You know, there's still a. 440 00:21:16.720 --> 00:21:20.680 Lot of you know, who knows who you know, who's 441 00:21:20.720 --> 00:21:24.640 buying onto these festivals, who's buying onto these cruises and 442 00:21:24.720 --> 00:21:30.359 these these tours and stuff like that, And. 443 00:21:29.160 --> 00:21:31.920 It's not like the old days for sure, you know. 444 00:21:32.559 --> 00:21:34.799 But you know, we're hoping that with this record and 445 00:21:34.839 --> 00:21:38.559 slowly but surely we'll start gaining some momentum. But you know, 446 00:21:38.680 --> 00:21:43.640 for us, we know that we're an international band because 447 00:21:44.079 --> 00:21:45.319 whenever we perform. 448 00:21:45.359 --> 00:21:47.200 You know, we got the chance to perform on the 449 00:21:47.279 --> 00:21:51.519 Kiss Cruise. You did, yes, you did twoes. 450 00:21:50.799 --> 00:21:54.720 And we got on that Kiss Cruise by the fans. 451 00:21:55.519 --> 00:21:59.359 They had a contest, submit your video does your band 452 00:21:59.359 --> 00:22:01.119 want to play on the And the. 453 00:22:01.640 --> 00:22:06.000 People that were on that boat voted us onto that ship. 454 00:22:06.359 --> 00:22:09.119 And you know, as well as I do, Kiss fans 455 00:22:09.240 --> 00:22:13.119 are all over the world. They're all over the globe, 456 00:22:13.720 --> 00:22:18.640 and we won those Kiss fans over. So if you 457 00:22:18.720 --> 00:22:22.279 can have the Kiss Army or in this case, the 458 00:22:22.359 --> 00:22:26.680 Kiss Navy accept you and say hey, we want you 459 00:22:26.759 --> 00:22:29.839 to sail with us, that told us that we really 460 00:22:29.839 --> 00:22:33.839 do have something. This is a worthy product and a 461 00:22:33.880 --> 00:22:34.599 worthy band. 462 00:22:34.839 --> 00:22:35.079 Dude. 463 00:22:35.119 --> 00:22:36.920 When I saw Kiss for the very first time, the 464 00:22:36.960 --> 00:22:39.839 opening act was ac DC. That's how I was introduced 465 00:22:39.839 --> 00:22:40.400 to that band. 466 00:22:41.359 --> 00:22:44.960 Wow, my first rock concert was ac DC nineteen eighty 467 00:22:45.000 --> 00:22:46.000 on the back and Black Tool. 468 00:22:46.200 --> 00:22:48.839 I got, oh my god, that's a new lead vocalist 469 00:22:48.880 --> 00:22:49.799 in front of that band. 470 00:22:50.559 --> 00:22:54.880 Yeah, yeah, yeah, And I wasn't familiar. Funny story, and 471 00:22:54.920 --> 00:22:55.880 this is the truth. You know. 472 00:22:56.039 --> 00:22:57.599 I wasn't familiar with ACDC. 473 00:22:57.759 --> 00:22:59.680 But just like I was saying, all my friends were 474 00:22:59.720 --> 00:23:02.400 going to the concert, so I was like, well, god, 475 00:23:02.640 --> 00:23:03.799 I've got to go to this show. 476 00:23:04.240 --> 00:23:06.799 I didn't know their music. I didn't know anything. Yep. 477 00:23:07.039 --> 00:23:10.240 So I was fifteen years old and it was in 478 00:23:10.279 --> 00:23:13.119 the day where you would go to these concerts and 479 00:23:13.160 --> 00:23:17.279 you would be walking through a cloud of marijuana smoke. 480 00:23:18.000 --> 00:23:21.400 So I'm like standing in there and I'm just getting 481 00:23:21.440 --> 00:23:24.359 high as hell, just smelling it. 482 00:23:24.359 --> 00:23:27.880 It's all around me. I'm high as hell, and the 483 00:23:28.000 --> 00:23:29.160 lights go out. 484 00:23:29.119 --> 00:23:32.759 Right and the clouds starts chanting Angus. 485 00:23:33.079 --> 00:23:37.319 Yes, yes, Angus. I think they're chanting Anus. I have 486 00:23:37.559 --> 00:23:41.079 no idea what's about to fucking happen. I'm getting a. 487 00:23:41.000 --> 00:23:43.319 Little nervous from By the end of the show, I 488 00:23:43.359 --> 00:23:45.680 realized that the guitar player's name was Angus, and. 489 00:23:45.640 --> 00:23:50.400 I'm like, oh, now it makes sense. See my story. 490 00:23:50.480 --> 00:23:52.799 My big question about, you know, going to those concerts. 491 00:23:52.920 --> 00:23:55.799 Why does pot smell differently today than it did back then? 492 00:23:55.839 --> 00:23:58.480 Because back then

I was like, God, that smells so good. 493 00:23:58.680 --> 00:24:01.039 Today it's like whoa, that smells a damn skunk. 494 00:24:01.759 --> 00:24:04.839 Oh man, it's it's so much stronger. Me and my girlfriend, 495 00:24:04.880 --> 00:24:06.000 which is talking about that. 496 00:24:06.119 --> 00:24:09.680 The other day, we we we were driving back into town. 497 00:24:09.799 --> 00:24:12.160 We were in Myrtle Beach over the weekend doing a show, 498 00:24:12.680 --> 00:24:17.079 an acoustic appearance, and we pulled into Fansville, my town, 499 00:24:17.160 --> 00:24:18.880 and as soon as we get into town, we start 500 00:24:18.920 --> 00:24:20.759 smelling the skunk weeds and. 501 00:24:20.680 --> 00:24:23.279 It's like, holy shit, man, you know, and you can. 502 00:24:23.920 --> 00:24:26.480 In your car with the windows up, and the car 503 00:24:26.599 --> 00:24:29.920 will drive by and you're like, holy shit, man. 504 00:24:30.000 --> 00:24:32.640 It's it's so much stronger than it used to be. 505 00:24:33.319 --> 00:24:35.759 I had to quit. I had to quit smoking that stuff. 506 00:24:35.799 --> 00:24:37.839 It was making me see God, I had to stop. 507 00:24:38.640 --> 00:24:40.960 Is Charlotte on any of your performance tours because I 508 00:24:40.960 --> 00:24:42.759 would love to sit down and have a face to 509 00:24:42.799 --> 00:24:44.880 face with you and go experience the sound. 510 00:24:46.079 --> 00:24:48.279 Well, you know, we're working really hard on trying to 511 00:24:48.279 --> 00:24:49.960 get some shows booked for the summer. 512 00:24:50.960 --> 00:24:53.599 Charlotte is a very clicky scene. 513 00:24:53.359 --> 00:24:54.039 Yes it is. 514 00:24:54.279 --> 00:24:56.519 Yes, it's very it's. 515 00:24:56.279 --> 00:24:59.400 Very CLICKI you know, and you know, you've got to 516 00:24:59.480 --> 00:25:02.960 kind of know somebody to get onto a bill. And 517 00:25:03.039 --> 00:25:05.200 you know, it's kind of hard to show swap with 518 00:25:05.279 --> 00:25:08.559 some of the Charlotte bands because you know, like I said, 519 00:25:08.599 --> 00:25:11.000 they're a little clique. I'll never forget. We did a 520 00:25:11.039 --> 00:25:14.319 show a couple of years back. We invited a Charlotte 521 00:25:14.319 --> 00:25:16.960 band down and I won't mention their name. We invited 522 00:25:17.000 --> 00:25:19.799 a Charlotte band down to be on the bill with 523 00:25:19.880 --> 00:25:22.440 us to play at the Lincoln Theater in Raleigh, which 524 00:25:22.519 --> 00:25:25.920 is like a thousand seat you know theater venue. It's 525 00:25:26.000 --> 00:25:29.240 one of the best venues in Raleigh. And we put 526 00:25:29.279 --> 00:25:32.039 these guys on the bill and they did not promote it. 527 00:25:32.279 --> 00:25:34.799 One single bit they expected they did. 528 00:25:35.319 --> 00:25:37.960 They did not put up one thing on their Facebook, 529 00:25:38.039 --> 00:25:42.519 they didn't make any mentions of it. They they did nothing. 530 00:25:42.960 --> 00:25:46.160 They came, they played the show. They didn't even hang out. 531 00:25:46.319 --> 00:25:50.440 They just got in their their rig and left soon afterwards. 532 00:25:50.519 --> 00:25:53.519 And I was like, what the hell is that all about? 533 00:25:53.720 --> 00:25:55.119 So, you know, it's. 534 00:25:55.000 --> 00:25:57.799 Kind of you know, it's kind of tough to get 535 00:25:57.839 --> 00:26:00.000 to get into that market, but like I said, we're 536 00:26:00.039 --> 00:26:01.640 open to make some leeway this summer. 537 00:26:01.720 --> 00:26:04.160 God, I would love to see your band perform at 538 00:26:04.200 --> 00:26:06.920 the all new Ebenezer Park in rock Hill, South Carolina. 539 00:26:07.119 --> 00:26:09.400 They have such a great, big area where you could 540 00:26:09.400 --> 00:26:11.640 have a huge crowd out there, and I just think 541 00:26:11.640 --> 00:26:14.880 that you guys would bring a festival type atmosphere to it. 542 00:26:16.200 --> 00:26:18.599 Well, you know, we're definitely one of those bands that 543 00:26:18.680 --> 00:26:21.079 believe in and put it on a great live show 544 00:26:21.240 --> 00:26:21.960 because you know. 545 00:26:21.920 --> 00:26:25.079 To me, that's that's part of being the whole package. 546 00:26:25.160 --> 00:26:27.240 You know, you've you've got to put on the show 547 00:26:27.839 --> 00:26:31.200 to back up what's on the CD. And that's why 548 00:26:31.240 --> 00:26:34.240 I love the band because everybody in the band sayings, 549 00:26:34.480 --> 00:26:36.319 you know, we've got great background vocals. 550 00:26:36.319 --> 00:26:38.839 There's no tracks, right, you know, so it's. 551 00:26:38.759 --> 00:26:41.039 Like, you know, we we definitely know that the show 552 00:26:41.160 --> 00:26:42.000 is a big part of it. 553 00:26:42.119 --> 00:26:44.839 Let's let's talk about those those background vocals, because you 554 00:26:44.839 --> 00:26:46.880 know a lot of people don't under it. They'll sing 555 00:26:46.880 --> 00:26:49.000 along with them, but they're not they don't respect those 556 00:26:49.039 --> 00:26:51.319 background vocals, but yet they'll sing with them. How is 557 00:26:51.359 --> 00:26:54.000 it that you build those harmonies and you build that 558 00:26:54.119 --> 00:26:55.279 timing down perfectly. 559 00:26:56.640 --> 00:26:58.880 Well, you know, there's a certain way to do it 560 00:26:58.920 --> 00:27:01.400 in the studio is you know, you basically break it 561 00:27:01.440 --> 00:27:05.680 down to a three part harmony. And you know the 562 00:27:06.160 --> 00:27:10.000 trick that we learned from Kevin Beamish is you break 563 00:27:10.039 --> 00:27:12.359 it down to a three part harmony and you get 564 00:27:12.400 --> 00:27:16.920 everybody that sings to sing each harmony part all together. 565 00:27:17.119 --> 00:27:20.079 So you'll all sing the low part, you'll double that, 566 00:27:20.599 --> 00:27:23.680 sing that

part, double that, sing that part, and you 567 00:27:23.799 --> 00:27:27.599 do it so on and so on. So you're basically building, 568 00:27:27.680 --> 00:27:31.640 building building. It's all everybody singing the same part. So 569 00:27:32.279 --> 00:27:34.960 when you do it live, everybody sings their parts and 570 00:27:35.000 --> 00:27:36.799 you just you know, have a good sound man and 571 00:27:36.880 --> 00:27:39.599 knows how to mix it correctly. But to get that 572 00:27:39.680 --> 00:27:42.359 big sound with the background vocals, there's a little trick 573 00:27:42.400 --> 00:27:45.279 in the studio and it's everybody breaking the three part 574 00:27:45.359 --> 00:27:49.319 harmony down and singing it all together and then doubling 575 00:27:49.359 --> 00:27:50.079 it and tripling it. 576 00:27:50.720 --> 00:27:52.319 That's how Bohemian Rhapsody was. 577 00:27:52.440 --> 00:27:54.759 Yes, yes, you're absolutely right about that, and infacted that. 578 00:27:54.920 --> 00:27:57.400 To me, that was an educational film. I mean that movie, 579 00:27:57.640 --> 00:28:00.599 you know, it taught people the truth about music. It's 580 00:28:00.599 --> 00:28:02.559 almost like they gave us the wizard behind the curtain. 581 00:28:03.359 --> 00:28:05.519 Yes, yes, And you know that was one of the 582 00:28:05.519 --> 00:28:09.200 things that was really fascinating working with Kevin Beamish and 583 00:28:10.039 --> 00:28:13.000 Chris used that because you know, he was there and 584 00:28:13.319 --> 00:28:15.319 he picked up the stuff with Beamish and he picked 585 00:28:15.400 --> 00:28:17.920 up the stuff you know, watching Shine down record and 586 00:28:18.440 --> 00:28:21.240 you know it's it's all those little studio tricks, you know, 587 00:28:21.319 --> 00:28:24.359 but you've got to have the musicians, you know, to 588 00:28:24.440 --> 00:28:26.880 be able to perform it first and foremost. 589 00:28:27.039 --> 00:28:28.759 All right, with the new album, that means you've got 590 00:28:28.839 --> 00:28:30.960 new merch and and I want to sell that merch 591 00:28:31.039 --> 00:28:33.519 because that that's what goes into your guys' support and 592 00:28:33.599 --> 00:28:35.880 love and and really everything that makes you who you 593 00:28:35.920 --> 00:28:37.920 are today. Because I mean the one thing that I'm 594 00:28:38.000 --> 00:28:41.839 learning is that people today are buying band merch without 595 00:28:41.839 --> 00:28:43.960 ever seeing the band. We need to get your merch 596 00:28:44.039 --> 00:28:45.720 on the on the on the on the chest of 597 00:28:45.720 --> 00:28:46.799 people out in Seattle. 598 00:28:47.799 --> 00:28:50.279 Oh yes, absolutely, that'd be great. You know you could, 599 00:28:50.359 --> 00:28:53.440 you could find us. You know, our website is www 600 00:28:53.640 --> 00:28:56.000 dot the Fifth music dot com. 601 00:28:56.440 --> 00:28:59.400 And we're also on social media. Just look up The Fifth. 602 00:28:59.400 --> 00:29:01.960 We're on Hitta and Facebook, and. 603 00:29:01.960 --> 00:29:04.119 We're starting to try and to break out on TikTok 604 00:29:04.160 --> 00:29:06.279 a little bit. But you know, we're getting ready to 605 00:29:06.359 --> 00:29:09.039 do a whole new line of T shirts and you know, 606 00:29:09.160 --> 00:29:11.359 right now we're just really excited about the new CD 607 00:29:11.480 --> 00:29:13.519 and just trying to push that as far as we can. Oh. 608 00:29:13.519 --> 00:29:15.440 I can't wait to watch you guys grow, I really can. 609 00:29:15.680 --> 00:29:17.559 You got to come back to this show anytime in 610 00:29:17.599 --> 00:29:19.839 the future. The door is always going to be open 611 00:29:19.880 --> 00:29:20.519 for you, dude. 612 00:29:21.119 --> 00:29:23.400 Oh man, my pleasure. Thanks for having me on. And 613 00:29:23.480 --> 00:29:25.200 anytime you want me, I'm here for you. 614 00:29:25.200 --> 00:29:26.920 You're a Carolina guy, you know we take care of 615 00:29:26.960 --> 00:29:27.359 each other. 616 00:29:28.000 --> 00:29:30.519 That's right, that's right, man, You you can count on me. 617 00:29:30.640 --> 00:29:30.799 Man. 618 00:29:30.839 --> 00:29:32.680 Hopefully I'll get to Charlotte here real soon. 619 00:29:32.759 --> 00:29:34.160 Man, will you'd be brilliant today? 620 00:29:34.200 --> 00:29:37.160 Okay, okay, man, I appreciate your time. Today,