Full Transcript for The Mind Benders

The person following him takes the cab as well. 69 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:15,000 Now we're at the train station and the bearded man is going to catch his train. 70 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:22,000 As his boarding is associated Dr. Kenny Tay season and calls out Professor Sharpie and he tells Professor Sharpie that he's managed to get them a couple of seats. 71 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:26,000 Sharpie looks less than thrilled about this but he lets the tape lead him away. 72 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:30,000 Tate As of Sharpie is okay and Dr. Sharpie claims to be fine. 73 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:32,000 It's just that London is very tiring. 74 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:34,000 They're headed back to Oxford on this train. 75 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:40,000 Now we see that the man who was trailing Professor Sharpie has followed him all the way to the station and he boards the train in an joining car. 76 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:42,000 The train rolls on into the night. 77 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:45,000 Sharpie and Tate are sharing a compartment with four other people. 78 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:47,000 And the professor seems to have a lot on his mind. 79 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:49,000 He has a despondent expression on his face. 80 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:55,000 The man standing across from Sharpie tells what he thinks is an amusing anecdote about Einstein writing this very train and asking, 81 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:57,000 "Does Oxford stop at this train?" 82 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:59,000 Everyone tolerates this story except for Sharpie. 83 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:01,000 He opens the door and jumps out of the train. 84 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:03,000 I can't blame him. 85 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:05,000 He does go on and on about this Einstein incident. 86 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:08,000 And he thinks it's a lot more interesting than we do. 87 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:14,000 After Sharpie hurls himself off the train, Tate jumps up and pulls the emergency chain, saying that something has gone wrong. 88 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:16,000 And shortly after that, the train stops. 89 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:21,000 Tate and the other men from the car all jump out of the train, as does the conductor and the man who had been trailing Sharpie as well, 90 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:23,000 and they all run to where Sharpie has fallen. 91 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:26,000 The conductor rolls over the body and finances him dead. 92 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:28,000 Looking at Tate, he says, "Did you know him?" 93 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:30,000 Tate says, "That's Professor Sharpie." 94 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:32,000 The boring anecdote guy tells anyone who will listen. 95 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:34,000 It really was the most extraordinary thing. 96 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:36,000 He just opened the door and jumped. 97 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:40,000 Tate grabs Sharpie's briefcase as the man who had been trailing Sharpie looks on. 98 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:43,000 Inside, Tate finds that money that Sharpie had stuffed in

there. 99 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:46,000 Someone has the man trailing Sharpie if he's a police officer. 100 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:48,000 And he says, "Sort of. 101 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:50,000 This man, who will find out later, is Major Hall. 102 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:53,000 Also, Dr. All, tell us Tate, and you better give that bag to the guard." 103 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:57,000 Now what Oxford University, as chimed ring, Major Hall steps on a hotel. 104 00:05:57,000 --> 00:05:59,000 He dons his hat and walks down the street. 105 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:02,000 He walks to the university, where many students are writing up on their bicycles. 106 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:06,000 He enters a building where a student is waiting to take Hall to see the director. 107 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:08,000 This is Norman, and we'll see a lot more of him. 108 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:12,000 In his office, director Calder tells Paul that their work on the labs is classified. 109 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:16,000 So we can't stop him from coming here, but it can't help the atmosphere of the place to have a security man 110 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:18,000 asking questions of everyone. 111 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:21,000 Hall tells Calder that he has evidence that Sharpie has committed treason. 112 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:24,000 Calder isn't surprised by this, which does come as a surprise to Hall. 113 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:29,000 Calder explains that despite his left-leaning beliefs, Sharpie was as politically naive as a child of seven. 114 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:35,000 Calder tells Hall that Sharpie had been working in America, and the Americans knew that his naive Tate was dangerous, 115 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:38,000 and that's why they kicked him out of their space physiology program. 116 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:40,000 Hall says that nothing was proven there. 117 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:46,000 Calder says as soon as Sharpie started working here, he started getting visits from strange men with central European names and snow on their boots. 118 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:49,000 So Hall would like to speak with some of Professor Sharpie's colleagues. 119 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:51,000 Calder says that Hall is missing the point. 120 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:53,000 There's no reason to talk to anyone here about that. 121 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:56,000 I'll ask about Dr. Longman, who worked with Sharpie in the United States. 122 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:59,000 Were the two of them working on space physiology here? 123 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:03,000 Calder confirms that Longman had continued working with Sharpie, but he's been out for the past six weeks. 124 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:07,000 But before that, they were working on an aspect of space physiology that they called isolation. 125 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:09,000 Hall thinks that's a good starting point. 126 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:11,000 He asks to speak to someone who knows anything about that. 127 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:13,000 Is Dr. Longman available? 128 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:18,000 He's not, so instead Calder takes Hall to meet Dr. Tate, who is standing in for Dr. Longman. 129 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:22,000 When they go to the classroom, they see Dr. Tate being grilled by some of the students about Professor Sharpie's demise. 130 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:26,000 One suggest Tate might have had the opportunity to stop Sharpie from jumping off the train. 131 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:28,000 Calder says he will not tolerate that sort of talk. 132 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:32,000 As a student's leave, Tate tells Calder they're just naturally curious, like they've trained them to be. 133 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:35,000 Calder goes to introduce Major Hall, but Hall says they've already met. 134 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:38,000 Tate tells Hall that he's standing in for Longman, who's been ill. 135 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:41,000 Calder says he can keep standing in for the next class too. 136 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:43,000 We see Norman again, he's coming in to set up a film. 137 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:46,000 Hall says that he is or was a scientist. 138 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:48,000 And he wants to learn more about isolation. 139 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:51,000 Tate says that he isn't as well versed in the subject as Professor Sharpie was. 140 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:54,000 So Calder suggests they run Sharpie's film explaining it all. 141 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:56,000 Norman is already threatening the projector. 142 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:58,000 Calder has things to do, so he's not staying for the film. 143 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:00,000 He's probably seen it before anyway. 144 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:02,000 Tate goes to shut the blinds to dark in the room. 145 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:06,000 Hall asked Tate about Longman's studies in America with Sharpie, but Tate shuts that down too. 146 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:15,000 And then Norman rolls the film, which starts in the Arctic Circle, where a Dr. Jean Bonne-Voilat has spent four months alone in a cabin in the darkest part of the year. 147 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:18,000 As the film continues, Professor Sharpie and Dr. Tate interview him. 148 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:22,000 He determined that Dr. Bonne-Voilat knows who he is and that things were bad, and an angel came to him. 149 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:23,000 Then he falls asleep. 150 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:26,000 They want to know how long he thinks she was alone out there, but he won't answer that. 151 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:34,000 And then in the film, Dr. Sharpie tells us that for the next few months, they tried to replicate the experience focusing on the low temperature aspect of Dr. Bonne-Voilat's experience. 152 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:38,000 So he intake, put volunteers into cold, dark storage containers, essentially. 153 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:41,000 Lab subjects would become disoriented after the tests. 154 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:45,000 But Longman hypothesizes it wasn't the temperature that had

adversely affected Dr. Bonne-Voilat. 155 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:46,000 It was the isolation. 156 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:49,000 So they changed the name of the laboratory to isolation. 157 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:54,000 They want to study what happens to a man who is deprived of all sensation and experience you might find in spaceflight. 158 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:58,000 So they say, and to do so, they designed a tank to provide the environment. 159 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:01,000 A person would be harnessed and submerged in body temperature water. 160 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:07,000 This experience could leave men bewildered and lonely, setting that behavior led them to a new and frightening world. 161 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:12,000 Professor Sharpie suggests that the work they are doing is dealing with the physics of the soul, and with that, real one comes to an end. 162 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:19,000 Paul asked that there's a real two, but Tate tells them the experiments they were doing over the summer hadn't brought them to a conclusion worthy of a real two just yet. 163 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:22,000 Paul asked Tate if he continued to work on the isolation project. 164 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:25,000 Tate says he worked for a while, but then it was just Longman and Sharpie. 165 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:27,000 And after six weeks ago, it was only Sharpie. 166 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:31,000 Paul says he'd like to speak with Dr. Longman and ask that Tate had Longman call him. 167 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:35,000 Egos and Norman gives Tate a tape to take to Mrs. Longman since he's headed out there anyway. 168 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:40,000 It's a bootleg recording of Sir Malcolm Sargent in Helsinki recorded off BBC radio. 169 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:47,000 Norman says that Mrs. Longman has been shouting for it for weeks. Tate tries to give the Tate back to Norman, but Norman smiles smuggling. 170 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:49,000 He knows Tate wants to see Una Longman. 171 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:54,000 So Tate bicycles over to the Longmans where their four children have built the Kahn Tiki in their front yard. 172 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:56,000 They're going to sail around the world. 173 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:59,000 He has to the house where yet another kid is circling on a tricycle in the front. 174 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:07,000 Tate rings the bell and enters the house. He calls out Una, factor Longman's wife and mother of his mini children, greets him from the top of the stairs and invites Tate to come out. 175 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:14,000 He's wearing a bathrobe. They sit down in what I think is the sitting room. She says she'd offer him a cigarette, but they smoked them all last night. 176 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:17,000 Tate hands her one in an express of surprise that she smokes now. 177 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:19,000 Then he tells her that Calder has been trying to reach Longman. 178 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:22,000 She explains that Longman had left the phone off the hooks since last week. 179 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:25,000 They're deeply uncommitted to the world right now. 180 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:30,000 Then she describes the old car Longman had recently bought and how he would take the children for a ride and get strangers on the street. 181 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:35,000 But at night it was just the two of them. Tate wonders what's up with her and she tells him that she's in love. 182 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:40,000 Tate rolls his eyes a little bit and Una says that like pain, love is incommunicable. 183 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:49,000 Tate says that that's nothing new. She asks how old he is. He says he's older than she is. And Una says that Tate is just like Sharpie, forever suspended between a man and a boy. 184 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:54,000 Tate starts to tell Una about Professor Sharpie, but Una abruptly leaves the room to go make some coffee. 185 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:58,000 She returns after a moment and tells Tate that Longman is out on the balcony and he should go and see him. 186 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:08,000 Tate marvels that Una calls her husband Longman and says that she used to call him something much ruder when he was a lodger there. She says that the problem is that she's lost her sense of humor and she goes back to make that coffee. 187 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:13,000 Tate goes out on the balcony with Longman and Longman asked Tate what's bottom here. Tate explains he brought over a tape for Una. 188 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:18,000 Any asked Longman if he's seen the paper, but Longman hasn't. He's been doing his best to cut himself off from the outside world. 189 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:24,000 He didn't get a new car though. Tate tells Longman that there's a man at the university interested in isolation and Professor Sharpie. 190 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:32,000 Longman wants to know why Tate hands him the newspaper and tells him to read it over while he goes to help with the coffee. Longman puts on his glasses and opens up the newspaper. 191 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:39,000 Later we see Tate downstairs carrying a tray full of coffee mugs, etc. standing next to Una and then Longman comes downstairs looking quite grim. 192 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:46,000 He really has told you something says Una Sharpie's dead says Longman. He killed himself says Una who is a very perceptive woman. 193 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:50,000 Longman suggests to bring the tray upstairs then they could play the tape that he's brought over. 194 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:57,000 Back in that sitting room, Longman is in an armchair with Una kneeling next to him hugging your husband's legs. Tate sits by himself on the sofa. 195 00:11:57,000 --> 00:12:04,000 They're listening to the symphony play on the tape. Una mentions that by doing this they're avoiding talking about how what happened to Sharpie had something to do with the experiment. 196 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:06,000 But nobody takes her up on that conversation opening. 197

00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:12,000 The song on the tape ends and it's replaced by the sound of someone screaming and agony. Longman rushes to turn the tape off. 198 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:20,000 It was you, wasn't it accuses Una? Longman says it wasn't him and take neither confirmed nor deny this. But Una is sure it was Longman's voice on the tape. Longman holds her. 199 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:23,000 It wasn't my voice you heard. He says it was Sharpies. 200 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:29,000 Una says she was sure that it would end. Not sure she's referring to you, but Longman knows and says no. It didn't. 201 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:35,000 I know Una is ready to go out and she runs out of the room. I would put some clothes on. But Longman remains behind to talk to Tate. 202 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:41,000 Tate asks about the screams on the tape. Longman says that they must have been recorded about five hours into the experiment. 203 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:50,000 And that he wasn't there when it happened. Longman says now do you see why I couldn't go on? Why I had to get away to Una? Tate asks. Longman says love is important. 204 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:55,000 More than just the physicality of it. It's important for survival. Tate asks if that attitude is fair to Una. 205 00:12:55,000 --> 00:13:00,000 Air asks Longman. Longman says that after 12 years together things between them are better than ever. 206 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:02,000 He says love is always better when you're afraid. 207 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:11,000 Then he changes the subject and asks Tate about the investigation into Sharpie. And Tate says that a brief case full of money was all it took to have him accused of treason. Longman thinks this is ridiculous. 208 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:16,000 Sharpie was more of a patriot than he was a pacifist. Surely Tate doesn't believe Sharpie could have committed treason. 209 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:24,000 Tate is non-committal and Longman tries to convince him. Tate says that he should take his theories to major hall and then grabs the tape saying that it needs wiping. 210 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:29,000 And then we hear Una hunking the horn in the car from outside. Longman and Una are driving out to the country. 211 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:33,000 It's not that far. I guess it's a mile from the house and they park by a lake. This is kind of their make-out spot. 212 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:39,000 But they're only cuddling right now. Una asks Longman if he's going back to the university. I guess I must, he says. 213 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:46,000 He wants to find out what happened with Sharpie. Una isn't sure this is a good idea. She asked if he thinks that the experiment had anything to do with Sharpie's death. 214 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:53,000 That's what I'm going to find out so long. And then he kisses her to stop her going on about Sharpie's horrible screams that they heard on that tape. 215 00:13:54,000 --> 00:14:05,000 And now we're in the lab where major hall is poking around the tank when Tate returns from the Longman's house. 216 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:12,000 I'll ass Tate if the tank is an extension of the cabin and the freezer compartment experiments and take calls that a refinement. And then he explains how it all works. 217 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:19,000 He says he may not be up to date, but he does tell hall what he knows. The tank is filled with water and the subject wears a rubber suit and mask. 218 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:24,000 This allows the subject to breathe while a visor shuts down all light. The room is soundproof and everything is recorded on Tate. 219 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:31,000 And they use ropes to keep the subject centered in the tank so they won't inadvertently touch the bottom where the size of the tank and spoil the effect. 220 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:38,000 Major hall thinks this doesn't seem too difficult, like taking a warm bath in a dark room. Well, too many have tried to, says Tate, one died and the other one ran away. 221 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:46,000 And now we see that Longman is in bed with Una. He looks very distressed. When Una reaches her arm out to him, he throws himself on her body. She holds him tightly. 222 00:14:46,000 --> 00:15:02,000 And then the camera pans away so they can make love. Afterwards we see Una is crying. Longman asks why and she says, you know why love can be violent too. He says that had more to do with fear. She says the next morning, Una is sending the kids off to school, making sure Paul drinks his milk before he goes. 223 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:11,000 Well, pure spins around the room on his tricycle. He's not going to school. He's too young. His daughter Penny asked her dad if girls need logarithms and Longman says that they're essential for girls. 224 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:23,000 The doorbell rings and Longman answers it. It's Major hall. Major hall asked if Longman could spare five minutes to speak with him. As you know, says Longman, I've already spared five weeks. You'd better come in. He takes hall into the other room, bringing peers in with them as a witness. 225 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:38,000 Or he even shield. Hall asked Longman if he considered Sharpie a friend and Longman says he did. Then he asked Longman if he worked with Sharpie on the isolation experiments. Longman says he did for a limited period. What limited it asked Hall, Longman admits to panicking and running away. 226 00:15:38,000 --> 00:16:00,000 Also says that Sharpie had some dealings with undesirable people and he has proof that Sharpie was a traitor. Longman asked Hall, so Sharpie's in the rug's gallery as a traitor. Do this in your patriot. Do that in your traitor. Obviously says the Major. He asks if Major's fighting their duties to stick their noses into things of which they have no understanding. A Major's duties are well defined says Hall, when bewildered, a Major reports to his colonel. 227 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:21,000 It seems to loosen up Longman

enough that he starts to describe the tank, but one of his daughters, Penny, appears in the window. She asks for her little brother. So Longman has to stop his conversation to pass peers through the window to his sister. But he tells the Major that some pretty frightening things happen during these experiments. You could dissolve a man mentally, reduce him to a soulless, mindless, willless thing, more sea and eminion man. 228 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:28,000 Longman tells Major Hall he should look into what happens to a man in the tank and to take that under consideration before filing Sharpie under T for a traitor. 229 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:33,000 Also says that he's seen the tank and that he believes that Longman is only guessing at the results of these experiments. 230 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:40,000 Longman asked for the opportunity to prove that the tank can change a man. Maybe in such a way that he might not be as possible for his own actions. 231 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:49,000 All reminds Longman that he has a file on Sharpie and it's full of evidence. Be that as it may, the file should have been closed a month ago when a man decided to put himself in the tank for way too long. 232 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:57,000 Says Longman. Hall says that's a good story, but he can't prove it. I might says Longman. How asked the Major by putting someone in the tank? This time, I'm not running away. 233 00:16:57,000 --> 00:17:08,000 And now Major Hall is in the lab looking at all the recording equipment. He asked Longman about it who tells him that they record everything possible, including the subjects of vitals to make sure that the subject doesn't die during the course of the experiment. 234 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:18,000 Longman comes in with Tate and Longman starts sniping at the Major by telling him their objective and methods. Take one Longman and dissolve them. If he behaves in a new and dutty way, hand them over to the Major. 235 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:32,000 Then Longman tells Tate that he isn't to be left alone during the experiment or afterwards until he is himself again, and then he is to be returned to his wife and family. Longman leaves the room. Where's he gone? Ask Major Hall to be sick. I expect to take it isn't pleasant in the tank Major. 236 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:46,000 But when we see him next, he's shooting up to go in the tank. So what suit looks like a scuba diver. Tate and Norman help him with the gear and to climb down into the tank. Longman stares at Hall and then closes his visor and sinks down into the water where we see him suspended surrounded by light. 237 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:55,000 Tate switches off the lights and he joins Hall and Norman on the observation deck. Almost immediately Longman starts seeing to himself, oh my darlin clementine and then he begins monologuing. 238 00:17:55,000 --> 00:18:08,000 He's narrating his own life to himself and we can hear him growing more and more anxious. And then Major Hall starts talking

to us via a voiceover and he's made a record of this whole experiment for the Colonel. And that it tallied with a similar American experiment on the reduction of sensation. 239 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:17,000 That report Longman had referred to as the report for Colonel Bogey. All the voiceover continues and says that Longman seemed to go through four distinct stages during the experiment. 240 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:24,000 The first was irritation after the first hour of relative quiet even boredom. He became childlessly irritable, abusive and even comic. 241 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:33,000 The next stage was melancholy. His skin grew extra sensitive and he began calling for his wife. Let me see her naked body superimposed over his and he pretends to touch her. 242 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:38,000 But then Hall tells us that after that all sensation vanished and he started losing confidence as a man. 243 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:48,000 We hear Longman begging to be taken out of the tank saying it's not fair and to please let him out. And the third stage was panic. The voice of the trapped monkey, the wasp beating against the glass. 244 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:53,000 The man on the rack, Longman is screaming as if he's being tortured indeed but the experiment goes on. 245 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:58,000 All says that after five hours without sensation, Longman was in a state of complete nervous collapse. 246 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:05,000 I guess that's the fourth one in the control room. Tate is pacing and even Hall looks a little concerned as Longman gibbers in the tank. 247 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:08,000 Hall tells us that now Longman is being comforted by the hallucinations. 248 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:16,000 After seven hours in the tank, Longman vanished into a world of his own. He's hallucinating and talking to Dr. Jean-Voilan-Volva saying he's a great admirer of his work. 249 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:18,000 It's very very lonely here in the tank. 250 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:26,000 At this point, a light bulb goes off over Hall's head. He recognizes this stage. He would usually only reach it after months of solitary confinement in the non-tank world. 251 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:31,000 But they have managed this in under eight hours. Now wonder the Russians were interested in Sharpie. 252 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:37,000 They may not realize what they assemble onto here. But Major Hall does. They've created the perfect circumstances for brainwashing and indoctrination. 253 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:44,000 Hall is reasonably sure that this is what happened to Sharpie. He was manipulated while in this suggestive state. But they'll still have to prove it. 254 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:51,000 He's positive that they could convince Longman of anything right now. They could change his most fundamental beliefs. But what beliefs are there to change? 255 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:55,000 Hall asks if Longman is a Catholic and Tate says that he has no religion. 256 00:19:55,000 -->

00:20:00,000 He's a scientist offers Norman. Tate tells Norman they don't need to know what he is, but rather what it is he believes. 257 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:05,000 Willie loves his wife. Norman suggests. Tate and Hall shook Norman a dirty look. Well, it's kind of a belief, isn't it? 258 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:11,000 Tate and Hall look at each other. After several seconds, Tate says no. But Hall says it's perfect and they both know it. 259 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:17,000 Tate refuses, but Hall says that Longman went in the tank to clear Sharpie. So they must do this final aspect of the experiment. 260 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:23,000 Tate doesn't like this. But Hall says that if they can convince Longman that he doesn't love his wife, that could prove that Sharpie was a traitor. 261 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:28,000 Somehow. I guess Tate asks how they can get Longman back to himself if they're successful. 262 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:32,000 Hall says that the way to unwashed brain is to show him how he was manipulated in the first place. 263 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:37,000 Everything they say to him will be recorded. So they just play back the tape and Longman will be as good as new. 264 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:43,000 Tate hates this idea. And Hall says he does too, but they absolutely must do it. So now the experiment is over. 265 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:47,000 And Norman starts to get Longman out of the tank. Tate still doesn't want to lie to Longman about Una. 266 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:52,000 But Hall says that Tate is the only one who can convince Longman of this. But he will provide the cue that he needs. 267 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:57,000 And if it doesn't work, no harm, no foul. If it does, Longman will have been proven right. 268 00:20:57,000 --> 00:21:04,000 And you won't have gone through all that for nothing. Hall sets up an indoctrination station, a chair or a table, a lamp as Tate helps Norman with Longman. 269 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:07,000 They don't even get him out of the suit. They just sit him right down. 270 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:11,000 Tate says Norman for coffee. Norman turns and Hall tells Norman to go and lock the door behind him. 271 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:17,000 Then Tate asks Longman if he remembers him. Longman says he does. That's good, says Tate. And be insulted if he'd forgotten my name. 272 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:24,000 "Is his name?" asks Hall. Longman is quiet. Tate says it's okay. He knows my name. He doesn't, says Hall. "I do," says Longman. 273 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:29,000 Hall says it's obviously no use cross-examining him now. They pulled him out of the tank too early. They should put him back in. 274 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:34,000 Longman begs Tate not to put him back into the tank. Tate tells Hall they shouldn't. He's got four children to take care of. 275 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:42,000 Hall asks Tate. "Does Longman have a wife?" and Tate sees us on this cue to assassinate Una's character. Tate says that she's immature. She's jealous of her own children. 276 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:46,000 Yes, Longman to confirm this. And Longman says yes. Unenthusiastically. 277 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:52,000 He also says that from the information he was given, it would appear that the opposite was true. This is Longman is spoken of as a most sympathetic woman. 278 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:58,000 Tate denies this and says that Longman really has to look after her and that she's a great liability. And he has Longman to confirm this. 279 00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:06,000 And then Tate continues to slag Una. She's a tart. And Longman finds her physically repulsive. And he's standing right next to Longman, putting all this in his ear. 280 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:12,000 He asks Longman, "Isn't it true that you never loved her at all?" Longman starts to answer and collapses to the glory and exhaustion. 281 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:17,000 Tate yells out to Norman to call an ambulance and turns to Hall, "What the hell have you made me do?" 282 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:23,000 And now we're outside, we see birds flocking in the sky. And Longman comes too, as he's about to be packed into an ambulance. 283 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:28,000 A bunch of students are on the sidewalk and one recognizes him as Longman who's been in the tank. 284 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:31,000 Longman wants to know what's going on. Tate explains that the ambulance is here for him. 285 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:41,000 Calder's there and he tells him to lie back down. Longman says he's never felt better in his life and the female student's giggle. Longman tells Calder to tell all the vultures to go away and Calder sends them back to their colleges. 286 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:43,000 Norman tells Longman that he's glad Longman's okay. 287 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:46,000 Longman throws the blanket up himself and exposes himself to the crowd. 288 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:48,000 "Good God," says Longman. 289 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:51,000 And the female students gobble at a topless Longman, trying to stand up. 290 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:57,000 Longman tells Longman to get the medics to haul him back inside. Now Una is pulling up to the university in that new old car of theirs. 291 00:22:57,000 --> 00:23:03,000 A student asked if she's there to see Dr. Longman. She says she is and the student tells her that he refused to get an ambulance and he sends her to the lab. 292 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:07,000 Inside the lab, Longman is declaring his perfect health and state of mind. 293 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:13,000 Calder tells him that he needs a long and relaxing holiday and then he tells Tate and the major that he's shocked by all of this. 294 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:16,000 Dr. Tate says they still have a few loose ends to tie up with the experiment. 295 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:23,000 But Calder says not tonight they don't. All whispers to Tate that they can't do anything about it now. Calder turns and says he won't have them whispering behind

his back. 296 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:32,000 He wishes them good night. Good morning, Longman corrects him. But it's 9 p.m. Major Hall confirms this. But Longman doesn't believe him. Calder confirms it's 9 o'clock at night then he leads. 297 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:42,000 Longman starts giggling. This is terrible. He could have sworn it was the next morning. After that whole cabaret, all he wants are eggs and bacon and coffee and he keeps laughing. 298 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:51,000 Tate and Hall want to keep him under observation for a few days. But Longman says no way. He tells him that whoever's idea this little experiment was, it didn't work. The tank wasn't such an ogre. 299 00:23:51,000 --> 00:24:07,000 Una enters the lab and Longman greets her with her nickname otter. He went to her and kisses her neck and she tells him that she perceived the phone call and had a terrible premonition. It was bad news. Longman assures her all as well. And he asks Tate and Hall if he's clear to leave. No for the question says Tate. Enjoy your eggs and bacon. Hall adds. 300 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:18,000 After Una and Longman leave, Hall asked Norman about Sharpie's last time in the tank. Norman says that Sharpie was in there for four hours. But he recovered quickly and then he asked to be taken to the station so that he could go to a lecture in London. 301 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:24,000 That same day, Asshole, he seems to have taken it better than Dr. Longman did. Well says Norman. He didn't get the third degree treatment. 302 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:35,000 Now we see Longman and Una walking back to their car, Armin Arm. He offers to drive but she says she'll do it. She felt terrible before but now she feels marvelous. She drives away and then we see Tate and Hall exiting the lab. 303 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:57,000 Hall says that he's off to grab a large gin and Tate asks if he's planning to celebrate. Hall says that for their experiment to have failed was the greatest success they could have hoped for. Not for Sharpie says Tate. Sharpie's dead Hall reminds him. As Longman said, it's just a matter of closing the file. T for Trader. That's almost all. The major just has to figure out what information Sharpie sold. How, S Tate wouldn't be Wildard. Major report back to their kernels says Major Hall. 304 00:24:57,000 --> 00:25:10,000 And now we're with Una who drives Longman to their secluded make-out spot after they park. Longman looks visibly irritated at this. Una says that Calder was right. They need a vacation. Maybe fishing on a deserted island. And then she asks if he loves her. 305 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:18,000 Yep, he says she tells him to kiss her. She has something to tell him. He doesn't kiss her but he does look at her midsection. Una reveals that she's pregnant. 306 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:31,000 Longman says that's not bad. Is it when I asked if he remembers the first time they drove out here but now she's second guessing whether coming out here today was

a good idea. She feels something is off and asked him to just love her. Love you. He says patting her on the cheek. But his eyes are saying something different. 307 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:41,000 This face is fully hidden in shadow now and he looks terrifying. But God's sake. She says where are you? Shall we go? He says starting the car for her and she drives off. 308 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:58,000 Once I've gone by and now it's fall. Tate is riding his bicycle past the park on his way to Longman's house. We can see that the leaves are being raked and wood and such as being piled up as if for a bonfire. 309 00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:18,000 Tate asks if their father is in. He's always in, says Paul. Tate goes to the house and rings the bell and a very pregnant Una answers the door. She seems guardantly happy to see Tate. She asks if this is a summons from Calder but Tate says it's not an official visit. She points him in the direction of the den and then starts to walk upstairs. 310 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:43,000 Aren't you coming in? He asks. She stops for a second but then keeps plotting upstairs saying nothing. Answer the gentleman says Longman who has just appeared in the doorway of his study. He says it's amazing the effects of pregnancy on a woman. She's been shuffling up and down those stairs for weeks. How do you think she looks? Very well, stammer's Tate. Una says Longman. You're being complimented. Come down. As Una descends the stairs. Longman recalls how he used to call her otter. But that was in the days of Amur Amur Amur. 311 00:26:43,000 --> 00:27:01,000 A visibly cowed Una asked Tate if he wants some coffee. Tate says no. He just came by to ask and Longman interrupts when I'll be back to start teaching again. Longman says he should. It is no I a hasn't. Life here hasn't been a bed of roses. He starts tidying up a table saying that yes to set the house in order because of someone's bohemian ways. Meaning Una. 312 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:11,000 Tate says he invited them to a party but they never RSVP'd. No, really? Says Longman. Una says she showed him the invitation. You're so dishonest says Longman. All of them are dishonest. Aren't they Tate? 313 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:23,000 Tate tells Una that the party's tonight and asks if she's coming. Una begs off. But Longman declares that he will be there. And he finds out that the party's on the barge at 8 o'clock. And there'll be fireworks. Tate says he has a lot of drinks to buy. So he heads for the door. 314 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:28,000 Longman orders Una to see Tate to the door or even to the garden gate if she prefer. 315 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:34,000 Then he calls her otter and tells her that's a term of endearmate. He's behind her. She's not looking at him. And we see that she looks stunned. 316 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:46,000 Longman tells her that she should talk to him. Tell him all about it with Spur in his ear. Yacke dee, Yacke dee, Yacke. And Una follows Tate to the door. Tate starts

with a sympathetic Una. Bye bye, snaps Una. Slamming the door in his face. 317 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:57,000 Looking confused and concerned. Tate returns to his bicycle. Now we're at the party. There's a couple of houseboats and fireworks are going off and people are running around the sparklers. A taxi pulls up and major hall steps out of all people. 318 00:27:57,000 --> 00:28:10,000 He pays the driver then turns to join the fray. He goes to one of the barges where outside Norman is serving everyone enhanced punch. Norman greets the major and has to be there on official business. But no, the major is here socially. Tate must have invited him. 319 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:14,000 Apparently they grew close after spending less eight hours together listening to Laman nearly being driven insane. 320 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:25,000 Anybody would bond over that. I'll ask where Tate is. And Norman points him at the barge next door. I'll walk in that direction. And then sees Longman with a younger woman. He's kissing her. He has another student who she is. 321 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:31,000 Oh, that's Annabelle from the barge next door. She said to be part of a gentleman's education. Eden Oxford and Annabelle. 322 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:39,000 Now we're with Longman and Annabelle. He's teasing her threatening to push her overboard unless she says yes to something. So she does say yes. And then they have a mock fight. 323 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:49,000 She says she's mad at him. She's been waiting a week for him. I've never met you before. I said Longman downing his drink. That's why I mad says Annabelle. She looks into the window of the boat. They can't go in there. There's already a couple in there. 324 00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:56,000 Longman looks and it's Tate and Una. That's no company says that's my wife. Then he makes another drunken. That's my wife joke. It's even less funny. 325 00:28:56,000 --> 00:29:01,000 Major Hall is observing all this from a distance. She's practically a tart Longman continues as they move on. 326 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:07,000 Inside the barge Tate is trying to comfort Una, telling her what Annabelle won't do. But Una says she's not worried about Annabelle. 327 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:16,000 All barges in and take greets him and asks if he's enjoying himself. I wish I was, says Hall. He's only just arrived and he's already seen more than he bargained for. It's just a party major, says Una. 328 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:23,000 It's just the booze, just one of those nights. But Hall isn't so sure. He asked her how long her husband has been like this. 329 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:28,000 She says since that night six months ago, when he asked her for breakfast and you two happily disappeared. 330 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:37,000 Hall pulls up a chair and sits directly in front of Una. I don't know how much you know of the isolation experiment. It was clear the experiment didn't work, says Tate. But Hall shushes him with a Tate, please. 331 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:40,000 And then realization dawns on Una. She's very perceptive. 332 00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:47,000 Exactly. You did something to him. You twisted him somewhere. It didn't work, says Tate. But Hall admits that that is exactly what they did. 333 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:57,000 And he asked Tate while he never contacted Una. She says don't blame him. She's British, stiff up or lippen all. And she kept it all to herself. And then she tells them what Longman was like after the experiment. 334 00:29:57,000 --> 00:30:02,000 Una starts to tell the sorted tale of the events of the past few months. It started off with just minor incidents. 335 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:15,000 Longman started to tease her in a malicious way. Then came the holiday. It was intended to be a fishing trip, but that was a bust. So they started traveling instead. She says they had a ghastly scene in every capital in Europe. I'll ask for an example. I could give you 100. She says, Madrid, Paris. 336 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:24,000 But Hall just needs one example. The worst was Amsterdam. She tells him that Longman saw the prostitute set up in shop windows. Nothing knew about that. But then Longman decided to buy one. 337 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:35,000 Hall asked if he brought a woman in front of her. When it says no, that would be too easy. Now he brought the room and put her pregnant as she was in the window. Imagine that she says turning her face to the wall. 338 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:44,000 Tate looks sickened by this story. Meanwhile Longman is taking Annabelle to his car. All comes out and shouts at him. But Longman either doesn't hear him or ignores him and he and Annabelle speed off. 339 00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:53,000 Some students joke about a little hut and hall deduces that they mean the lab. Hall asked Norman if Longman might be headed to the lab. He's got keys, says Norman. So Hall sends Norman off to find them a car. 340 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:59,000 Tate comes out and asks confused when Hall tells him that they need to go get Longman. The experiment worked. 341 00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:07,000 Tate says that they can't take Una's attrippitation of events seriously. She is pregnant after all. Hall is a guest. Can't you believe what you see with your own eyes? He asks. 342 00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:21,000 Then Hall goes back into the brief Una of the situation. He says they're going after Longman. But he wants her to know the whole story before he brings Longman back to her. Una isn't sure she wants to see him. But Hall believes she wants to see him very much. Only the man she married. Not the person he's been in the past six months. 343 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:28,000 It's true. All explains how he will play back the tape that we reversed the process of the interrogation. Una would like to come with. But Hall says she shouldn't. 344 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:42,000 It would be wrong of her to hear the deliberate lies that they told him. She says that she has to

know what they said about her. So she follows him out. And now we're at the lab where Longman is showing off his tank to his new girlfriend. But she's a little freaked out as he regales her with the amenities. 345 00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:49,000 What are we supposed to do here? The mind boggles, she says. Iying the rubber suit hanging on a hook. Longman tells her that this is the ultimate twisting place. 346 00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:55,000 He runs up to put on a tape and the sounds of long and screaming echo throughout the lab. You're not really weird. Are you assentable? 347 00:31:55,000 --> 00:32:01,000 As we hear Longman jibbering in the background. She's hoping this is just a joke. I'll be it not a very funny one. 348 00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:09,000 She begs him to switch it off. But Longman says of course it's a joke. All that that yelling does is give you a healthy appetite for breakfast, bacon and eggs. Nothing else. 349 00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:13,000 Annabelle looks like she should report to her colonel. 350 00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:20,000 And he tells her that she'd better humor him. But fortunately for her right now, Hall, Tate and Una arrive. Hall makes sure that Annabelle is okay. 351 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:25,000 Upon hearing the scream, Una grabs her head and Hall tells Tate to go up and turn the tape off and put the other one in. 352 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:33,000 Hall again warns Una about what's on the tape. And tells Longman that this is the part of the experiment that he knows nothing about as we listen to the aftermath of the tank experiment. 353 00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:40,000 Longman listens but seems unfazed. Una looks hurt when she hears her alleged friends saying these things about her and Tate just looks guilty. 354 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:47,000 After the tape ends, Longman starts slow clapping. Hall asks if he even listened to it. Doesn't he recognize the technique of indoctrination? 355 00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:59,000 Longman says yes, but as he said, the major is breaking up the wrong tree. Hall asks if he even remembers why he went into the tank in the first place to prove that when he comes out, a man comes down as a different creature. A soulless willess thing susceptible to persuasion. 356 00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:13,000 Longman starts pounding his head and saying that he's sorry, but then he stands up and starts shouting, "Abracadabra! Spend galley didn't pull it off." Longman says that he sees what they were doing. Does he think that Hall has the monopoly on mind bending and whitehall? You know exactly what they were doing. 357 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:19,000 What they didn't know is that they were converting the converted. All the stuff they told them, as his wife was immature, bad with the kids, etc. 358 00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:25,000 He was already well aware of that. All counters that the record shows that he and his wife had a good relationship prior to the experiment. 359 00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:43,000 Could find twenty witnesses to their marital bliss. Longman says they faked it. I didn't with Prasunah. Longman says he's been faking it for so long. He'd even fooled himself into thinking he wasn't lobe of this wife. Don't you see we made you into a different person as Hall? Longman says all they did was make him live a lifetime in a single afternoon so that he could come to this realization sooner. 360 00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:53,000 He goes to where Una is standing with her back to him to brag about bluffing his way through the Amur, Amur, Amur, her twelve years. Also as they made him a different person, Bunk says Longman. 361 00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:59,000 Una turns around and tells Longman that she loves him. Their love had a firm base that had lasted for fourteen years. 362 00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:08,000 At this long-winded silent, an animal takes this opportunity to try to sneak out, but Longman goes out after her. Let them go, says Una. He won't hurt her. He wasn't drives this hall chasing after Longman. 363 00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:17,000 He opens up the windows so she can look outside. Take comes over to her and says that he's at a loss for words. He's so ashamed of himself. But then he starts rubbing his face against her arm. 364 00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:23,000 She walks away from him and calls him a baby from across the room. He didn't know last summer or he'd never have agreed to the experiment. 365 00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:32,000 It was only when he saw her on the barge or maybe earlier at her house. He knew how much she missed her. He says no one could be blamed for falling in love and that he'd do anything for her. 366 00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:42,000 Una is not amused. She calls on the baby again and she steps down side. Major Hall is there and he promises that even if he has to get Longman to listen to that tape a hundred times, he will get her husband back to her. 367 00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:50,000 You can't order him to listen to it Major, she says. Hall doesn't think she should go home tonight, but Una says Longman has been near enough to murder her a hundred times. 368 00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:55,000 Why should she worry about tonight? Besides, there isn't really a risk because she'd rather be killed by him than live without him. 369 00:34:55,000 --> 00:35:04,000 She tells Hall that Longman has some instincts that are indestructible no matter what they did to him and then she leaves and then Hall goes to tape to demand some answers. Why didn't tape check on them? 370 00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:11,000 There only a half mile up the road and Tate just says that he couldn't and Hall gathers that Tate's in love with Una and probably has been for ages. 371 00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:17,000 Not that I'd done anything about it says Tate except murder her husband also that whatever they did was his responsibility not Tate's. 372 00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:21,000 Whatever Tate's motives may have been, I'll never really gave him an option so he's in the clear. 373 00:35:21,000 -->

00:35:31,000 Hall doesn't think that Tate meant to do harm out of his love for Una, but I'm not so sure. Now we see Longman dropping off Annabelle at her barge and he's begging her to let him stay with her, but I think she's had enough of him by now. 374 00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:37,000 He's just another person who has bashed and bruised her life and she's not feeling charitable enough to entertain him any longer. 375 00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:44,000 She says that she has every limb and organ that a girl should have except one. She no longer has a shoulder to weep on, a Polish gentleman wore it away with his tears. 376 00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:54,000 Annabelle gives Longman a pack on the cheek and tells him goodnight little boy as she heads inside a dog was up to her. Oh you dreadful big sad dog you remind me of a man go away. 377 00:35:54,000 --> 00:36:01,000 In the last few minutes men have been babies little boys and dogs. Longman leaves and the dog follows him he also sit under a tree. 378 00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:09,000 Longman tells the dog not to look at him so trustingly he's nothing but a series of conditioned reflexes. He says he could lock him up and train him. He'd ring a bell and the dog's mouth would water. 379 00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:18,000 Ring another one and he'd bark he's just a machine and free clothing that's all and he tells him that you also found out that men are just as susceptible to the Pavlovian response. 380 00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:25,000 Just then Una arrives and asked if she can sit down next to him. He says that's between her and the TEMS Conservancy Board so she parks herself next to him. 381 00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:30,000 She tells him that she loves him and he starts to laugh. How nose where you are she says. 382 00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:39,000 Longman gets disgusted with her and jumps up if you want to kill me you only have to push his Una. Longman starts to surm off and she asks him to wait. He asks why because of slippery she says. 383 00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:45,000 So he grabs her hand and starts pulling her away off we go back to the love nest. He says he angst her arm and she falls to the ground. 384 00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:51,000 "God it's yours too," she says of the child. He asks if the baby's coming and Una says she doesn't know. Longman looks lost. 385 00:36:51,000 --> 00:37:02,000 "You must know," he says and Una cries that she doesn't care. Longman picks her up and carries her to Annabelle's houseboat. The dog follows. Longman pounds on Annabelle's door and calls her name. Annabelle lets them in and asks what happened. 386 00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:11,000 She fell down as long as Longman. Then he corrects himself. I pushed her. I forgot about the baby. Longman plops Una on the bed and Annabelle asks if the baby is coming and Una responds by slipping her dress over her head. 387 00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:26,000 Yep. Longman asks Alnavela she has a phone and Annabelle says no and there's not one on the next barge either but

there's a phone box a half mile away. Longman asks if Annabelle can drive and Annabelle says she can't. So Longman starts to go. But Una says that he must stay or else she'll die and clamps onto him. 388 00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:35,000 Annabelle says she's willing to make the walk. Longman says there are things that have to be prepared first. Longman takes charge and starts rubbing Una's back while talking to her and she smiles for the first time in a long time. 389 00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:52,000 She regales her with a story about a handsy doctor as Annabelle gives Longman the supplies he asks for. Then he tells her to go off and call the witch doctor and she leaves with a dog tailing behind her. Longman starts purping his supplies in between contractions and then suddenly it's time and Longman gets in position between Una's legs, telling her to shove shove. 390 00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:59,000 The child is born and Longman cuts the ambillical cord. He wraps the baby in a towel, places him in a basket. Longman says that they ought to name a Pedro the Fisherman. 391 00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:05,000 Annabelle returns having missed the exciting part and Longman tells her to gather every blade blanket she can find or else they'll be accused of murder. 392 00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:10,000 Una asks if he was just acting as a doctor and he says no and we can see that something in Longman has changed. 393 00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:20,000 Elie is over his wife and she reaches up and touches his face. That is an off sweat. Is it she asks no darling, not all. Then he collapses into her. He's exhausted. He has had quite a nice. 394 00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:32,000 Brithing children is exhausting. Any man would know that I know it's the next day sometime later, stay time and a rowing crew is coming down the river. Their coach on a bicycle shouting commands at them. 395 00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:41,000 He crashes into Longman's car before he writes himself and bikes away. Annabelle and Major Holler walking towards the houseboat. The Major shakes Longman's hand. I don't know why we're shaking hands says Longman. 396 00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:49,000 He's congratulating you says Annabelle and she asks if there's anything she should do for her and the baby. Give her anything she wants as Longman. Give her caviar if she asks for it. But don't give any to the baby. 397 00:38:49,000 --> 00:39:01,000 Annabelle says that this is so wonderful she could cry for a week and goes inside her houseboat where someone else is using her bed. Longman tells Holler that he knows what he's thinking but he says he's come through okay and that what Holler did was right. 398 00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:06,000 Holler agrees and they now know what that tank did to Sharpie. So it's Z for zombie and not T for Trader says Longman. 399 00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:14,000 I'll refile it with pleasure says Major Holl. He says Longman must be tired. I am he says he's tired of the stupidity which makes a crime out of discovery. 400 00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:21,000 He started off with honest scientific inquiry and you ended up with a poor innocent old man lying dead on a cinder track on a dark night by a dirty train. 401 00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:30,000 Now when says he wants breakfast is Holler want to join him bacon and eggs as the Major saying that he can assure Longman that this time it is morning and they drive away and that's the end. 402 00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:42,000 Welcome back to the American International podcast where we're talking about the mine vendors from 1963. 403 00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:50,000 The mine vendors was a co-production between a IP and Anglo-Amalgamated and according to an article published in Los Angeles Times in late August of 1962. 404 00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:52,000 It's most known under the title the pit. 405 00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:58,000 Production for the mine vendors took place in July of 1962 at Pinewood Studios in Buckinghamshire, England. 406 00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:02,000 Other scenes were shot in Oxford at Slau College and at Paddington Station in London. 407 00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:12,000 An article published in the Slau and South Buck subserver noted that Dirk Bogard, Mary Eur and John Clemens were on location filming at the College of Further Education in late July of 1962. 408 00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:20,000 Bogard began his career as an odd job boy at the Q Theatre in London in 1939 and got his big break when a cast member was ill and he stood in for the actor. 409 00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:28,000 He was signed by the rank organization and acted for a couple years and then joined the Army to fight for Britain World War II, attaining the rank of Major before his 1946 discharge. 410 00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:37,000 He was nominated for a BAFTA Award for his role as a barrister being Blackmailed for his homosexual past in Victim, which was also directed by Basil Dearden and produced by Michael Rolf. 411 00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:44,000 Bogard told columnist Hed Hopper, quote, "I took a chance playing the part and according to people in the know this piece of casting has ruined my chance for a knighthood." 412 00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:47,000 That's a pity, but who wants to be known as Sir Yesman? 413 00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:53,000 And quote, "Ellery did go on to win two BAFTA Awards for acting and was created a Knight Bachelor in 1992." 414 00:40:53,000 --> 00:41:02,000 This was Mary Ears' first film shot in Great Britain since her role in 1957's Windom's Way. She went to America for a few years in 1960, then returned to play the role of Una in the Mindbenders. 415 00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:11,000 She received an nomination for a Best Supporting Actress Oscar in 1960 for her role in Suns and Lovers. In 1972, she appeared in a London stage adaptation of the Exorcist. 416 00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:19,000 Hours after a well-regarded opening night, she was found dead of an overdose of barbituettes and alcohol by her husband, actor Robert Shaw. She was 42. 417

00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:32,000 James Kenaway adapted his novel of the same name to write the screenplay for the Mindbenders. In an article published in January of 1963 in the London Daily Sketch, Kenaway told Arthur Pottersman that he had decided to leave the film business to go back to books. 418 00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:40,000 Quote, "Hollywood is a splendid way of life in a way," he said. "The people are quite sophisticated, not as simple minded as they sound, and yet it is a devilish place. 419 00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:54,000 I have never felt so seriously unhappy as when I was there. He said I got an offer to write Hitchcock's The Birds, but was, quote, "wary enough to say no." They say if you work in films once, that's experience. Twice is indulgence. I would rather go back to being a publisher." 420 00:41:54,000 --> 00:42:04,000 According to the AIP Press book, almost exactly the same experiment undergone by Dr. Bogard in the film thriller was tried a few years ago by Dr. John C. Lilly of the National Institute of Mental Health. 421 00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:20,000 The following served as his own guinea pig and had himself suspended face down in a tank just as in the movie. However, the press book says that a leak in Dr. Lilly's mass preventative from fully experiencing the negative effects shown in the movie, but the experiment and others like it, nonetheless proved how isolation experiments could lead to brainwashing. 422 00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:32,000 I think it was a light leak and not a water leak. Probably shouldn't mention that. The Mindbenders was released in Great Britain on February 28, 1963. It was rated X, presumably for the birth sequence at the end of the film. 423 00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:44,000 It was released in the United States on May 1, 1963. According to Gary Smith and American International Pictures, the Golden Years, AIP originally planned a wider release for the Mindbenders, but it was actually relegated to appearing as a co-feature. 424 00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:56,000 AIP's press book suggested theater owners suspend a mannequin below the marquee to imitate the key art featuring Dr. Bogard in the isolation tank, posting messages like, "What is this thing? And dare you defy the Mindbenders? You're by." 425 00:42:56,000 --> 00:43:06,000 They also recommended setting up a replica of the isolation tank in a window. Finally, it said they could have attractive girls and brief costumes pass out aspirin tablets or canning to people well in advance of opening day. 426 00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:12,000 Telling the recipients they should take the pill one hour before seeing the show to protect themselves from having their minds captured by the Mindbenders. 427 00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:18,000 Such a weird concept to imagine people handing out pills of unknown origin to strangers and telling them to just take it. 428 00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:26,000 I mean, some people are allergic to aspirin and are diabetic and that's just crazy. Nobody would do that now. 429 00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:34,000 A blurb in a syndicated column published in May of 1965 reported that the Mindbenders was the first motion picture with a dog named Saggy in the cast. A cinema historian has noted. 430 00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:40,000 Taglines for the Mindbenders include, in Great Britain, don't go alone to the Mindbenders. 431 00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:42,000 It's the new Bogard everyone's talking about. 432 00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:50,000 At the touch of a button, they transformed his love into violent hate. In the US taglines include, "On the black pit of the hate machine came a thing." 433 00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:51,000 Not a man. 434 00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:59,000 The voice of the trapped monkey, the wasp beating against the glass, eight hours of hell in the tank and his memory of her warm loving body turned to repulsive clay. 435 00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:03,000 From the black hell of the hate machine came a thing, not a man. 436 00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:05,000 A dangerously different motion picture. 437 00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:11,000 Perverted, soulless, a love affair destroyed by an experiment so terrifying it destroys humanity. 438 00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:18,000 According to an article published in Variety of November of 1963, the box office results for the Mindbenders were quote, "disappointing." 439 00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:28,000 New York Times critic Howard Thompson called the film an experiment that doesn't hold water and wrote, "credits the deared and wealth unit for a smoothly machine drama, not entirely convincing but at least original." 440 00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:32,000 The film slides downhill toward the conclusion that love conquers all, even science. 441 00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:41,000 The finale is a highly strict, substantial childbirth. Mr. Bogard, whose coiled jittery behavior has no place in a top-secret laboratory, also remembers something about experimental freedom. 442 00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:53,000 Box office magazine's review said the Mindbenders was a well-made British import that was better suited to class or art spots, but it has enough science-fact action for the teenagers, even if a harrowing childbirth scene is not for the kiddies. 443 00:44:53,000 --> 00:45:01,000 Mary York gives a moving portrayal of a neglected wife, and as always, Bogard gives a fine portrayal and is believable in both his scientific and romantic chores. 444 00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:13,000 Dorothy Masters of the New York Daily News gave the Mindbenders three and a half stars, calling it a fascinating drama concerned with the human element in man's quest for knowledge, much as implied rather than given wordage, and the dialogue is not for lagers. 445 00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:21,000 It is a notch above the traditional box office norm, arresting rather than sensational. Like most British productions, this one is staffed by secondary players of commendable talent. 446 00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:33,000 In his review in the London evening standard,

Alexander Walker wrote, "The Mindbenders has such a stunning idea that it infuriates me to see the producer/director team of Michael Ralph and Basil Dearden treating it in so split-minded away. 447 00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:38,000 To see how easily Bogard can be indoctrinated to do something against his will, they suggest that he does not love his wife. 448 00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:45,000 At this point, my belief in the film collapsed, such a suggestion would never occur, except in the kind of melodrama this film dwindles into. 449 00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:51,000 He also said the childbirth scene so shook the film technicians who helped shoot the scene that I am told they put in for embarrassment money." 450 00:45:51,000 --> 00:46:02,000 The reviewer in the Surrey comment wrote, "What could have been a science-picture puzzle of greater stature than the Manchurian candidate turns out to be a domestic wrangle with Bogard entering into the Mr. Hyde part of his dual personality. 451 00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:13,000 It takes good old mother nature to bring the airing scientists back to the paths of virtue and good behavior, long drawn out agonies of the birth of a baby toward the end of the film rather undermine any tension that has been built up. 452 00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:28,000 In fact, it can all be rather embarrassing." Dick Richards in the London Daily Mirror said of the Mind Benders, "Bogard's return to normality is too glibly and swiftly contrived, as some of the scientific dialogue is tricky to absorb, but both Dirk and his wife, tensely played by Mary Eur, act their edgy roles with confidence." 453 00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:36,000 Arthur Steele and the Birmingham evening mail wrote that, "The Mind Benders begins as if it knows where it's going, but isn't going to tell. The best sort of suspense. 454 00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:40,000 The real horror is that this kind of experiment isn't science fiction. It is fact." 455 00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:54,000 The London Guardian Review said, "Much is promised by the Mind Benders. It's fall from grace is all the sadder. When the preliminaries are over and we are made to witness a scientific or pseudo-scientific experiment about which we believe only one thing that it is bound to have a happy ending. 456 00:46:54,000 --> 00:47:01,000 And that is very damaging to a film which depends for its success on its efforts to maintain suspense and to suspend the audience in credulity. 457 00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:08,000 It also contains one spectacle that is as disagreeable as it is surprising. That of Dirk Bogard acting as midwife at the birth of his screenwifes baby." 458 00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:15,000 Raymond Anchor in the London Daily Post called the Mind Benders a "good, billar-gone soft, saying, sci-fi horror or domestic drama. 459 00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:22,000 Michael Rolf and Basil Dearden have it made up their minds. It wobbles between both, loses power, and grinds to a slow and rather ludicrous stop." 460 00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:30,000 Elizabeth Grant in the London Tatler and bystander wrote of the brainwashing scene, "A more hideous and a moral experiment in the interest of science, it would be hard to imagine. 461 00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:40,000 The alarming scene of having to act as midwife shocks Bogard into the realization that he loves his wife deeply. The implication then forced midwifery is the antidote for brainwashing is not one that I can easily swallow." 462 00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:45,000 Roy Lutherland in the Bolton News, instead of the film's ending, "How convenient, how incredible. 463 00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:50,000 But he added, despite the incredible ability of the piece, I must say that it is well acted throughout. 464 00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:55,000 Well enough indeed to make one believe that it is all perfectly possible, which sounds as much of a mix up as Mr. Bogard's mind." 465 00:47:55,000 --> 00:48:06,000 Bert Bacterack, who somehow had a syndicated column that was called "Now see here, full of various tips and opinions, such as Galician where those masculine hats," in the one I read, wrote, "Girl Watchers. 466 00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:15,000 Be sure to see Mary Eure in the Mind Benders. She's full of Al Eure. She's full of Allure. It's hard to get that pun across just saying it allure." 467 00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:23,000 And finally, Jay Feral of Hope, England, wrote a letter to the editor of the Brighton Argus, that read, "It's time we had a long rest from terrible X films like The Mind Benders. 468 00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:30,000 Old age pensioners seek the refuge of the cinema, having nowhere else to go in the cold weather. Must they feel nauseated by seeing such performances? 469 00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:34,000 There are travel, animal, and even agatha Christie stories which could delight an interest as all." 470 00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:37,000 Yeah, what gives? 471 00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:48,000 So, would you have rather watched an agatha Christie story or an animal tale than this one, Joe? 472 00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:51,000 It depends, maybe. But I can have a problem watching the mind-bedders. 473 00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:54,000 What genre would you classify this movie as? 474 00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:59,000 I guess it's kind of science fiction, even though it's based very strongly on science fact. 475 00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:05,000 Yeah, there's just the one element that's science fiction, all I think. And then the rest kind of plays out like a drama. 476 00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:11,000 It could be considered horror, I guess, because the idea of having your mind twisted by someone else isn't pleasant. 477 00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:20,000 When reviewer mentioned, it's a literal Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde situation that they engineered with no forethought and no warning for the subject, or the subject's wife, 478 00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:22,000 who was also part of the experiment. 479 00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:26,000 Well, if they handled things a little bit

differently, there probably wouldn't have been a movie here. 480 00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:29,000 Obviously, so I'm just dealing with the ethics of the experiment itself. 481 00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:34,000 Well, their intention wasn't to let this go on for months. They were going to let it go on for a couple of minutes and bring them back. 482 00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:40,000 They got interrupted first by Longman passing out and calling in the ambulance. Maybe if they hadn't called the ambulance and just revived them themselves, 483 00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:47,000 they could have continued and everything would have been fine. And then Calder comes and shuts everything down before they have a chance to play the tape. 484 00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:48,000 Yeah, true. 485 00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:52,000 So it wasn't their intention to let it go on like that. Plus, I don't think they actually expected it to work. 486 00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:59,000 I think they took long as assurance that it didn't work at face value and being scientists, they should never take anything at face value. 487 00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:07,000 So Hallow gives Tade a hard time for not checking on Una and Longman later, but also he didn't either. And this was his idea. He let six months go by. 488 00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:12,000 Truth be told, I think Major Hall already expressed more concern than he should have. 489 00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:18,000 I think that in real life, he would have been very content to label Sharpie a traitor and go on to his whatever his next case may be. 490 00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:20,000 Oh, yeah. We spent way too much time on this. 491 00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:22,000 And that's true. You're right about that. 492 00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:29,000 I'm going to say this is a really long movie. It clocks in an hour and 49 minutes and the AIP cut, which was unavailable to us, monthly 99. 493 00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:34,000 So there's 10 minutes that were cut from this. And I wonder what might have been cut from the AIP version. 494 00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:42,000 There's one scene that's kind of repetitive where we hear the tape played of what Tate and Hall told Longman about Una. We didn't have to hear that again. 495 00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:47,000 But I guess we had to watch Una hearing it for the first time. So I guess it was important to put that scene in. 496 00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:54,000 Well, it's probably not an entire scene. It's probably bits of scenes that were cut that equal out to 10 minutes. I don't think any one sequence is missing. 497 00:50:54,000 --> 00:51:01,000 That's a lot though. Maybe they cut out all the parts of the kids. It's weird. They have four children and they leave them to their own devices quite a bit. 498 00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:09,000 And I realize this is 1962 and not 2026 where we have helicopter parents, but it's just funny that they go out driving at night, leave the kids alone. 499 00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:13,000 Or the kids doing when Una was coming

into town to pick up Longman. There's no nanny. 500 00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:19,000 Now we know of maybe for 70 years old enough to take care of verse siblings, but they pre-rentify the eldest daughter classic. 501 00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:24,000 Well, I was babysitting my younger siblings when I was 11. So that's probably true. 502 00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:37,000 The AIP version wasn't available to us, but it did appear in two television packages back in the day and the amazing 66 and sci-fi 65. So it's likely that there are examples of the AIP version encirculation somewhere on 16 millimeter. 503 00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:41,000 But would somebody even go to the trouble of trying to resurrect the AIP version that's shorter? 504 00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:49,000 I would, but I don't have it. So if Aavianc there has it and wants to pay $3,000 for a tele-scene for a movie, don't have the rights to. 505 00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:50,000 And that we've already talked about. 506 00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:57,000 No, I still wouldn't mind comparing them, because I'm very curious as to what they cut. And one of the things they seem to be cut is a character called Aubrey played by Norman Bird. 507 00:51:57,000 --> 00:52:00,000 He appears in the credits, but he's not really seen in the film. 508 00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:07,000 No, we had to watch it for what the fourth time scan it slowly to try and even pick out someone who looks like him. 509 00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:11,000 Right. And he's another doctor who's on the film that they show to Hall in the classroom. 510 00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:16,000 Or the experiments inspired by Dr. Bun Boulas experience in the Arctic. 511 00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:19,000 Yeah, there's another doctor who's never given a name and never referred to. 512 00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:20,000 No lines. 513 00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:27,000 And that appears to be the part played by Norman Bird. So I wonder if he did have a larger part that was cut, but he was cut from the English version too. 514 00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:33,000 So despite getting a credit, which is more than you can say for a lot of people who did have lines and names in this movie. 515 00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:39,000 And there were a lot of people not credited here. One of the students is played by David Weston who had a much larger credited part in masculine red death. 516 00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:40,000 He was genome in that film. 517 00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:45,000 And we saw Edward Fox as an argumentative student interrogating Tate about Dr. Sharpie's death. 518 00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:48,000 And he turned up in 410 from Navarone many, many years later. 519 00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:53,000 Yep, he was Miller, the explosives expert in that film. And Grace Arnold appears on the train. 520 00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:59,000 And I think maybe two shots. She smiles as the other passenger starts telling his anecdote about Albert Einstein. 521 00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:02,000 It's more of philosophers Chessna if you ask

me. 522 00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:08,000 She appeared in Konga as the Dean secretary who gets grilled after his murder by the Tishlor Kanga. 523 00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:12,000 And then we have Roger Delgado as Dr. Jean Bun Boulas. 524 00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:19,000 I don't know about his AIP history, but he played the master in early Dr. Who episodes, hearing from like 1970 to 1973. 525 00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:24,000 And if you look at his IMDB picture and you happen to have watched Dr. Who back then, you will know him instantly. 526 00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:29,000 And we have a cover them yet, but Dirk Bogard and Terry Palmer both appear in King and Country. 527 00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:32,000 A film will be coming up in a later episode of American International podcast. 528 00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:37,000 Andrew Bogard and Wendy Craig both appeared in the Servant yet another one for a future episode. 529 00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:46,000 There was a scene where Longman takes the NFL to the lab and it really reminded me of Conan Briggs the fly when Jeff Goldberg picks up that girl of the bar and takes her back to his lab. 530 00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:49,000 Do you think Conan Berg was a fan of this movie? Or is that just coincidence? 531 00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:52,000 I don't know if it has coincidence, but it plays almost the same. 532 00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:57,000 Something that guy scientists do to impress women from back to the lab. See what's on this lab. 533 00:53:57,000 --> 00:54:00,000 That might be it, but the similarities are very noticeable to me. 534 00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:06,000 While we were watching this the second time, taking notes, well, I was wondering what secret specters Sharpie would have been paid that thousand times. 535 00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:14,000 What could he have done for the Russians and you know, that's what Major Hall's investigation was about, but he never comes up with anything. 536 00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:20,000 If he does, he doesn't tell us no fact at the end. He says that everything's done except he has to figure out what it was that Sharpie sold. 537 00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:27,000 So the question is never answered. I would think that would be very necessary evidence before you label somebody a traitor. 538 00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:31,000 What Hall tells Longman is that what the tank did to Longman, it also did to Sharpie. 539 00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:35,000 And that's what his friends found out. They told him what to do and he did it. 540 00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:40,000 That's what he tells him at the end. So it's not that he didn't find anything out. That's his conclusion. 541 00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:43,000 But what did his friends tell him to do? No one ever says. 542 00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:49,000 The only supposed evidence they have against Sharpie is he accepted money from these people, but they have nothing about what he may have given them in return. 543 00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:57,000 We were trying to figure it out and we thought maybe that either he was teaching them how to create sleeper agents or he was offering to create sleeper agents for them. 544 00:54:57,000 --> 00:55:06,000 Putting a volunteer in the tank, give them suggestions like go kill somebody, go blow something up, you could train an army of spies from the inside out. 545 00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:12,000 That's the only thing that made any sense to me and that would actually be worth more than a thousand pounds because he would have to use university resources. 546 00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:15,000 Unless you brainwash somebody to think that a thousand pounds was plenty. 547 00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:21,000 But then I also started wonder later if maybe they told him to kill himself. And that's why he did that. 548 00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:25,000 I mean, it seems like he was so upset with himself. I think it was a story. 549 00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:33,000 I think it was the Albert Einstein story. I had to watch that six or seven times and I was ready to throw myself off a moving train to not ever hear it again. 550 00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:41,000 This poor guy thinks it's so amusing and he just goes on and on and on about one line from Einstein. That's basically a spoonerism. 551 00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:42,000 But man, did he like that? 552 00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:48,000 And Sharpie throwing himself from the train is really the climax of the story. It doesn't go anywhere without that ending. 553 00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:52,000 And it is pretty much the funniest part in this movie. This movie is not a comedy. 554 00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:57,000 It's not even left right at all. No, no, it is really any opportunities to laugh. But that made me crack up. 555 00:55:57,000 --> 00:55:59,000 And this movie is actually pretty intense. 556 00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:02,000 It is. That's really down to the performances. 557 00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:08,000 Dirk Bogart obviously playing the Dr. Jekyll, Mr. Hyde version of Henry Longman. 558 00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:14,000 I think that he is the one that carries all that intensity. But I think his equal is Mary Eur as his wife Una. 559 00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:15,000 She is so good in this. 560 00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:19,000 We listen to the commentary on the keynote Lord were version of the Blu-ray. 561 00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:24,000 And doing that with the subtitles on it gave me a chance to really look at the composition of the film 562 00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:29,000 and not being distracted by the plot and the dialogue. And this is really well shot. 563 00:56:29,000 --> 00:56:33,000 They compared it to a Hitchcock movie. The framing, the use of shadows and light. 564 00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:42,000 That's some of the beauty you can do with black and white that I think people forget about with color film is that you can use the shadows in a better way than you can in the composition of color. 565 00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:44,000 You can still do it. It's just a lot harder. 566 00:56:44,000 -->

00:56:49,000 So I think people took advantage of it being easier in black and white. And so it looks artier. 567 00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:56,000 We first noticed that I think when we see Longman in the car after he's gotten through the experiment, Mary drives him out to their secluded spot. 568 00:56:56,000 --> 00:57:02,000 This is after he finds out she's pregnant. We see his face and the way the shadows fall on his face and the intensity of his stare. 569 00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:05,000 It gives you goosebumps. He's so frightening looking there. 570 00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:11,000 The lights are shining on his eyes. So they're almost glowing in this dark face. And it's very eerie looking. 571 00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:14,000 The music comes to a crescendo and you know this ain't right. 572 00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:17,000 No, she knows it too. And she has to go home with him. 573 00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:19,000 Well, that's because she's very perceptive. 574 00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:21,000 Well, she's a woman. You know how women are? 575 00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:22,000 Like when they're pregnant? 576 00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:25,000 Well, when you're pregnant, your perception is off. Everybody knows that. 577 00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:32,000 When this movie first starts, it's hard to tell who the main character is because we start with the doctor and then we go to major hall and tape. 578 00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:37,000 And then finally we settle on Longman and his wife. And that's the part of the movie where I got really interested in it. 579 00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:48,000 And I know that some of the critics knocked it for being a drama or a melodrama. But to me, that was the most interesting part of the movie is the interaction between the two of them and how this monstrous experiment is able to change that. 580 00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:55,000 Yeah, we definitely see the change in their relationship early in the film. Longman is very affectionate towards his wife. He calls her otter all the time. 581 00:57:55,000 --> 00:58:00,000 And then after the experiment, he mocks himself for having once called her otter. 582 00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:05,000 He did go through the experiment before. And it had a really bad effect on them. And we see that in the scene where they are in bed together. 583 00:58:05,000 --> 00:58:12,000 And he clings to her like she's saving him from drowning. But once he's experimented on again, he doesn't have that anymore. 584 00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:17,000 He's lost without her and just becomes the darkest version of himself post experiment. 585 00:58:17,000 --> 00:58:23,000 And the flip side of that is after the experiment, you see him just disregarding his wife totally. 586 00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:29,000 She has no idea this happened. If they had warned her that he might be a little different afterwards, we try this thing with him. 587 00:58:29,000 --> 00:58:35,000 It didn't work. Ha ha. We told him that he doesn't love you. If they had mentioned that to

her and given her some warning, but they didn't. 588 00:58:35,000 --> 00:58:46,000 And she has no idea what happened. Seeing as how perceptive she is, she catches on to everything. But she doesn't notice that when her husband left that morning and when she picks them up that evening, he's totally different. 589 00:58:46,000 --> 00:58:51,000 When she notices it, she doesn't calculate why what might have changed and when when it's pretty obvious. 590 00:58:51,000 --> 00:58:57,000 Maybe she should have contacted Tate and said, hey, you guys, was there anything weird about afterwards? 591 00:58:57,000 --> 00:59:01,000 Well, she does say that she's British, kept a stiff upper lip and just went with it. 592 00:59:01,000 --> 00:59:07,000 But she also said that he almost killed her a hundred times and he tried to prostitute her in Amsterdam or he did prostitute her in Amsterdam. 593 00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:12,000 The movie doesn't say either way. I think at a certain point she might have called out for help. 594 00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:14,000 Again, British, this upper lip. 595 00:59:14,000 --> 00:59:17,000 Well, to her own detriment. She was just holding everything in and I guess hoping things would get better. 596 00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:21,000 And she did say she'd rather be killed by him than live without him. Don't do that people. 597 00:59:21,000 --> 00:59:25,000 She does seem very sad as she's shuffling up and down the stairs. 598 00:59:25,000 --> 00:59:28,000 She's living with a monster and she still loves him regardless. 599 00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:36,000 I think the theme of the movie, the moral that we're supposed to take away is what Dirk Bogard says at the end of it on a scientific inquiry turned into a crime. 600 00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:42,000 But I think the real theme of this movie is that love conquers all as simplistic as that is. That's what happens here. 601 00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:49,000 She clings to him long enough that she's able to bring him back or maybe that playing that tape for him unbrained washed him and it just took a while to kick in. 602 00:59:49,000 --> 00:59:52,000 The way the brainwashing did. What do you think? How was he rescued? 603 00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:57,000 I think the tape loosened up something because he's pounding his head after he listens to it. 604 00:59:57,000 --> 01:00:02,000 Then he shakes it off and says, nah, you guys failed. He wants to really double down on being a dick. 605 01:00:02,000 --> 01:00:06,000 Yeah. And it's when he realizes that he heard her and the baby's coming. That's what makes him step out of it. 606 01:00:06,000 --> 01:00:12,000 You think it's permanent? He really stepped out of it for good or could he ping pong back and forth between the two personalities? 607 01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:18,000 It's probably a work in progress. He's probably going to bounce back to it. Probably not as intense as it was. 608 01:00:18,000 --> 01:00:25,000 It's going to take some time, I think, to be totally himself again. It's really lucky that she went into premature labor then. 609 01:00:25,000 --> 01:00:31,000 Had she been at home and gone to the hospital, he wouldn't have been there. He probably would have just made her life even more miserable when she got home. 610 01:00:31,000 --> 01:00:33,000 Might have worked better for Tate though. 611 01:00:33,000 --> 01:00:37,000 Oh man. What a spineless weasel that guy was. 612 01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:44,000 And you don't know until the very end. The last scene he's in is when you find out that he had feelings for her because he doesn't really show it. 613 01:00:44,000 --> 01:00:51,000 When Tate tried to get out of taking the tape over, he's like, oh, you want to see her. And probably everybody saw him moaning over her when they were in college. 614 01:00:51,000 --> 01:00:59,000 But she married Longman. And so well, the way it's presented in the film, they're friendly and during the depression, they've just known each other for years and they're good friends. 615 01:00:59,000 --> 01:01:07,000 But you don't see that there is feelings for her that's not really projected until he actually says it and becomes the winy baby that she calls it. 616 01:01:07,000 --> 01:01:17,000 He's a weird guy because he's really enjoying the process of denigrating her to Longman. I think he's taking it further than he had to because Hall was supposed to give him cues. 617 01:01:17,000 --> 01:01:26,000 He runs with it. Yeah. Tate's got it all covered. He knows just what to say. And so that's the moment I thought, is he thinking that he's going to get with her after he destroys their marriage? 618 01:01:26,000 --> 01:01:29,000 You're more perceptive than I am because I didn't go there. 619 01:01:29,000 --> 01:01:32,000 I'm a woman just seems like something somebody would do. 620 01:01:32,000 --> 01:01:38,000 I'm going to jump back to the composition of some of these shots again every time we go to a location, it starts with a wide shot of exterior. 621 01:01:38,000 --> 01:01:45,000 And then often people walk out of the building and then the camera will zoom in on them as the conversation starts and it happens constantly. 622 01:01:45,000 --> 01:01:51,000 And I just thought that it took a lot of foresight to shoot it that way, rather than just have a shot of the doorway, people walking out. 623 01:01:51,000 --> 01:01:58,000 They actually take the time to make it look good when they establish its fall and they have Tate riding his bike toward the camera. 624 01:01:58,000 --> 01:02:06,000 As he does, believe start falling from the trees just for that moment. So I picture some guy standing up there with a pile of leaves and just drops on his take by his buy. 625 01:02:06,000 --> 01:02:15,000 And it's all stuff that I wouldn't have noticed if I just watched the movie because it's there and as you see it, but you're paying attention to the plot and the dialogue and you don't see everything. 626 01:02:15,000 --> 01:02:23,000 Deerden

is a really good job establishing time in place. I also see them raking the leaves, the winds blowing, everyone's dressed in their winter garb, they're building a bonfire. 627 01:02:23,000 --> 01:02:33,000 Yep, you know, time has passed. The birthing scene was kind of wild because the reviewer seemed to think it was very gross, especially the fact that a man was helping his wife have a baby. 628 01:02:33,000 --> 01:02:37,000 But for me, this was one of the tammest birthings I've ever seen on this podcast. 629 01:02:37,000 --> 01:02:44,000 There were details inserted here that I wouldn't have expected to see little things like he asks her to move up on the bed a little bit. 630 01:02:44,000 --> 01:02:47,000 Yeah, that happens all the time when you're at the gyno. 631 01:02:47,000 --> 01:02:50,000 Right, but you don't see that in the movie. They skip that part. 632 01:02:50,000 --> 01:03:00,000 And like a man wrote this. So wow, the umbilical cord, she told him to tie it off twice before he cut it and the baby that they show actually has a tied off umbilical cord on its belly. 633 01:03:00,000 --> 01:03:07,000 You heard they ever see that in movies, unless they're really trying to be realistic or it is an actual birthing, but she doesn't ever take off her pantyos. 634 01:03:07,000 --> 01:03:19,000 So that was not realistic. But anyway, it happens really fast. Good for us. The movie was already like really pushing the links of our endurance at that point, but it probably takes about four minutes for this baby to come out. 635 01:03:19,000 --> 01:03:22,000 Do you want to talk about how messed up this experiment is? 636 01:03:22,000 --> 01:03:26,000 This is not something that real scientists would ever do. You don't think so? 637 01:03:26,000 --> 01:03:32,000 Not on the fly. They just pulled this experiment out of their asses at the end of the one that they intended to do. 638 01:03:32,000 --> 01:03:40,000 And they didn't get consent from the subject. And I know that that would have ruined the experiment. But the fact that they chose to do what they did without telling anybody. 639 01:03:40,000 --> 01:03:42,000 This is the most evil thing that I can imagine. 640 01:03:42,000 --> 01:03:45,000 Well, it's really dormant. The lab boys fault. 641 01:03:45,000 --> 01:03:53,000 Because he's the one who suggested that Longman loves his wife. They were trying to think of something they could do, something they could tell him to break his convictions. 642 01:03:53,000 --> 01:03:57,000 And Norman's like, well, Monarch, you tell me he doesn't love his wife. And they're like, hey, that might work. 643 01:03:57,000 --> 01:04:02,000 I could have told him to withdraw a hundred pounds from his bank account and give it to Norman. 644 01:04:02,000 --> 01:04:11,000 They could have told him any minor armless thing. But instead they see on this completely monstrous idea that doesn't just affect Longman. 645 01:04:11,000 --> 01:04:17,000 It would affect his whole family if

it worked. How would they know that it worked if they didn't see it in action? 646 01:04:17,000 --> 01:04:22,000 Well, they thought they did see it in action. I guess that was good enough for them because it had delayed effect on him. 647 01:04:22,000 --> 01:04:24,000 And they didn't account for that either. 648 01:04:24,000 --> 01:04:26,000 Well, I wouldn't have either, but I'm not a scientist. 649 01:04:26,000 --> 01:04:32,000 How was a scientist? What if he had gone home and murdered his wife and children? That happens like every five days here. 650 01:04:32,000 --> 01:04:35,000 Well, the children were safe because they told him that he loved his children. 651 01:04:35,000 --> 01:04:42,000 Someone who wants to punish his wife might do so via her children. They unleashed this, not knowing what the results could be. 652 01:04:42,000 --> 01:04:45,000 And all this to prove the motives of a dead man. 653 01:04:45,000 --> 01:04:50,000 Well, the thing to do would be to insist that no, this experiment isn't over. We need to finish this. 654 01:04:50,000 --> 01:04:51,000 To tell Calder what they did. 655 01:04:51,000 --> 01:04:54,000 Yeah, Calder pulling rank away. He didn't really help things at all. 656 01:04:54,000 --> 01:04:57,000 No, but this was malfeasance from the get go. 657 01:04:57,000 --> 01:05:01,000 I thought it was kind of interesting that Una refers to her husband by his last name. 658 01:05:01,000 --> 01:05:06,000 That's what you do in college and they met in college and she's just always called him by his last name. 659 01:05:06,000 --> 01:05:09,000 He probably called her by her last name before he changed it by marrying her. 660 01:05:09,000 --> 01:05:13,000 Maybe her last name was Otter. Maybe Una Otter. It's probably going to wait to get married. 661 01:05:13,000 --> 01:05:17,000 I mean, it's easier for us to be able to refer to everybody by their last name. 662 01:05:17,000 --> 01:05:20,000 So I guess I didn't have a problem with it. I just thought it was an interesting choice. 663 01:05:20,000 --> 01:05:23,000 What if he called her by her last name? That would be very confusing. 664 01:05:23,000 --> 01:05:27,000 I can't believe Longman said that she's done this before when she was giving birth and she'll do it again. 665 01:05:27,000 --> 01:05:31,000 This is five kids lady. You guys should take a break. You have enough on your hands. 666 01:05:31,000 --> 01:05:36,000 All right, Jeff. So let's put a grade on this. Give me your rating for the mind vendors using our AIP scale where A is awesome. 667 01:05:36,000 --> 01:05:39,000 I as intermediate and P is pathetic. 668 01:05:39,000 --> 01:05:43,000 Well, this is a pretty good movie and it doesn't necessarily go where you expected to. 669 01:05:43,000 --> 01:05:47,000 As I said, it's a pretty intense film and it's a very interesting film to watch. 670 01:05:47,000 --> 01:05:52,000 It's an intriguing story and the idea of sensory deprivation at the time was fairly new. 671 01:05:52,000 --> 01:05:57,000 But now we're 60 years past that and it's something that's being done on occasion. 672 01:05:57,000 --> 01:06:04,000 Not under these circumstances, not more control circumstances, but people are still looking into this and the effects on the mind and makes it a little scary. 673 01:06:04,000 --> 01:06:07,000 I guess it does cross over into horror when you see it in action. 674 01:06:07,000 --> 01:06:10,000 But I'm going to recommend this movie. I do hope the AIP version comes out. 675 01:06:10,000 --> 01:06:13,000 I'd love to compare them, even though it's shorter and probably not as good. 676 01:06:13,000 --> 01:06:16,000 The longer version is probably the version you want to watch. 677 01:06:16,000 --> 01:06:19,000 But I still would like to see what was cut just for my own knowledge. 678 01:06:19,000 --> 01:06:23,000 But I want to get this one in A for sure. This is an awesome movie. How are you going to rate it? 679 01:06:23,000 --> 01:06:29,000 I really love this movie. It's one that even now, and we'll be watching it for the first time over a week ago, and from that moment on, 680 01:06:29,000 --> 01:06:38,000 it's just been hanging around in my brain because of the implications of these experiments are the fact that isolation is something that a lot of people are experiencing right now. 681 01:06:38,000 --> 01:06:42,000 They're not in a tank. They live by themselves. They don't have a lot of friends. 682 01:06:42,000 --> 01:06:49,000 This is true of a lot of people. It can be even true of us sometimes, where you don't talk to people for a long time in real life. 683 01:06:49,000 --> 01:06:54,000 You may have online friendships, but a lot of us don't interact with people all the time. 684 01:06:54,000 --> 01:06:57,000 And that's a big change from the way things used to be. 685 01:06:57,000 --> 01:07:01,000 The experiments that they're doing kind of prove that that really can warp your mind. 686 01:07:01,000 --> 01:07:04,000 And what happened in this movie was an extreme example of that. 687 01:07:04,000 --> 01:07:10,000 It was not just used for positing how space travel could go, but for indoctrination and brainwashing. 688 01:07:10,000 --> 01:07:15,000 And it's very possible that that is something that is happening as we speak as well. 689 01:07:15,000 --> 01:07:21,000 People are online chronically, and they are lonely, and they get these messages telling them who the enemies are. 690 01:07:21,000 --> 01:07:23,000 Maybe that's doing something. 691 01:07:23,000 --> 01:07:25,000 So this is really resonated with me. 692 01:07:25,000 --> 01:07:27,000 And the performances in this movie are so good. 693 01:07:27,000 --> 01:07:30,000 Mary, I want to see more movies with her in it. 694 01:07:30,000 --> 01:07:36,000 She died tragically young, unfortunately, but I just found her so compelling in this movie that I want to go find her in other films. 695 01:07:36,000 --> 01:07:42,000 John Clements is major haul. I mean, yeah, he's kind of evil, but he's really good in this as well. 696 01:07:42,000 --> 01:07:45,000 And of course, Dirk Bogard is highly regarded actor. 697 01:07:45,000 --> 01:07:48,000 And the whole ensemble is so good that I just can't forget it. 698 01:07:48,000 --> 01:07:50,000 And so it's an A for awesome for me too. 699 01:07:50,000 --> 01:07:59,000 Well, if you'd like to take the plunge, see what I did there and fight out more about the mindbenders and other films we covered on American International Podcast, just head on over to aippod.com. 700 01:07:59,000 --> 01:08:02,000 There you'll be able to access every episode of the podcast. 701 01:08:02,000 --> 01:08:09,000 And you'll also find trailers, posters and lobby cards for the films we've covered to give you a closer look at them than you'd get from an audio only medium. 702 01:08:09,000 --> 01:08:13,000 Under the "Help Us" tab, there's a list of the films we are still trying to track down to cover on future episodes. 703 01:08:13,000 --> 01:08:20,000 If you have a lead on where we can find any of these titles in any format, you could let us know about it by using the contact us form on the site. 704 01:08:20,000 --> 01:08:23,000 There are also links to our socials so you can follow and keep up with us across the net. 705 01:08:23,000 --> 01:08:30,000 And there is a link to the American International Podcast Store where the proceeds from your purchase help keep the website alive and the podcast going. 706 01:08:30,000 --> 01:08:33,000 All this and more to come at aippod.com. 707 01:08:33,000 --> 01:08:40,000 And I think we can consider this episode another successful experiment in our exploration of the aip catalog for the American International Podcast. 708 01:08:40,000 --> 01:08:41,000 I'm Cheryl Lightfoot. 709 01:08:41,000 --> 01:08:42,000 And I'm Jeff Markin. 710 01:08:42,000 --> 01:08:44,000 And we'll meet you at the drive-in. 711 01:08:44,000 --> 01:08:55,000 Follow the American International Podcast on Instagram and Letterbox @aip_pod and on Facebook at facebook.com/AmericanInternationalPodcast. 712 01:08:55,000 --> 01:09:02,000 The American International Podcast is produced and edited by Jeff Markin. 713 01:09:02,000 --> 01:09:05,000 A man whose mind is distorted by hatred. 714 01:09:05,000 --> 01:09:06,000 And Cheryl Lightfoot. 715 01:09:06,000 --> 01:09:09,000 A girl hungry for too many things. 716 01:09:09,000 --> 01:09:22,000 The American International Podcast is part of the Pop Culture Entertainment Network. 717 01:09:22,000 --> 01:09:32,000 [MUSIC]