Full Transcript for Building a Business While Surviving the Hardest Year of Your Life | Cassandra Pickett - Girl, You Good?

I'm an Enneagram three, I actually do them. 00:03:35.360 --> 00:03:37.280 So it's a kind of a problem. 00:03:37.360 --> 00:03:39.199 It's cool and fun, but also a problem. 00:03:39.360 --> 00:03:41.680 So yeah, it's just kind of like a chain of events. 00:03:41.759 --> 00:03:42.960 They've all line together. 00:03:43.199 --> 00:03:46.319 Some of them make many others, some of them don't, you know. 00:03:46.639 --> 00:04:00.560 Yeah, I resonate with that so much because same, I I have my business, Honey Gin, and then I have the podcast, and then I have the events, and I'm actually growing the events a little bit more, so I'm not just doing the networking events anymore. 00:04:00.719 --> 00:04:04.080 I'm gonna be, by the time this is aired, it will already be out there. 00:04:04.159 --> 00:04:06.719 But I'm doing a big event on November 2nd. 00:04:06.800 --> 00:04:07.520 I'm so excited. 00:04:07.759 --> 00:04:10.639 Um, so it is it's basically a kickoff. 00:04:10.719 --> 00:04:18.800 So it's Honey Gin's four-year anniversary, but it's also the kickoff for doing live podcasting events, and I'm so excited. 00:04:18.879 --> 00:04:21.120 So, do you know what Figment Farms is out in Apex? 00:04:21.759 --> 00:04:23.360 It's so cute. 00:04:23.759 --> 00:04:24.879 That's where it's at. 00:04:25.120 --> 00:04:27.120 Oh my gosh, it's so cute. 00:04:27.199 --> 00:04:28.399 It's so cute, it's so cute. 00:04:28.480 --> 00:04:29.439 Especially that time of year. 00:04:29.600 --> 00:04:33.920 Figment Farms is bomb with the trees and all the vibes, fall vibes. 00:04:34.079 --> 00:04:34.800 Oh yeah. 00:04:35.040 --> 00:04:35.439 Yep. 00:04:35.600 --> 00:04:36.399 So get this. 00:04:36.560 --> 00:04:45.600 So we get there, it's uh cocktails, mocktails, light apps, and then I'll be doing live podcasts of with um Sarah Abernathy with Why Hill Kitchen. 00:04:45.759 --> 00:04:46.240 Ooh. 00:04:46.720 --> 00:04:50.720 So I'll be interviewing her and all of her business endeavors because she does a lot. 00:04:50.959 --> 00:04:55.439 And then after that, it goes to the dinner in the pines experience, catered by Sasspool. 00:04:55.839 --> 00:05:08.399 And then after that, there's a whole mingling experience where there's gonna be by the fire pit, there'll be a s'mores, there'll be a tarot reader, live guitarist, triangle 360 with the photo or triangle twirl with the 360 camera. 00:05:08.800 --> 00:05:10.399 Stephanie to a triangle twirl. 00:05:10.720 --> 00:05:11.439 Isn't she great? 00:05:11.920 --> 00:05:12.720 She's just good people. 00:05:13.040 --> 00:05:14.079 Yeah, what's happening here? 00:05:14.240 --> 00:05:14.480 Okay. 00:05:14.720 --> 00:05:15.120 I know. 00:05:15.199 --> 00:05:17.600 I I there's a mo there's a reason why we had a meet. 00:05:17.759 --> 00:05:17.920 Okay. 00:05:18.639 --> 00:05:19.600 I'm not gonna lie to you. 00:05:19.759 --> 00:05:25.680 You said November 2nd, and I in my heart was like, oh, probably not, because my birthday's on the third. 00:05:26.000 --> 00:05:37.199 And I'm like, I don't know who I'm gonna want to be that time, you know, like who knows where I'll wanna be, but you said tarot and fire pit and spores, and I was like, maybe I do want to go, even though that's around my baby too. 00:05:37.839 --> 00:05:43.759 So kudos to you to have something sound good enough to have me want to go around my birthday. 00:05:44.079 --> 00:05:46.639 Yay! So, anyways, I want to get into events like that. 00:05:47.439 --> 00:05:49.439 Um congrats, I love that. 00:05:49.680 --> 00:05:52.000 Thanks, but this isn't about me, this is about you. 00:05:52.160 --> 00:05:53.839 So let's take it back. 00:05:54.079 --> 00:05:55.920 So the business started first. 00:05:56.319 --> 00:06:01.519 When did you know what you wanted to do, wanted to go in this field? 00:06:01.680 --> 00:06:03.040 Take us back to like early. 00:06:03.360 --> 00:06:05.920 Okay, so I originally wanted to be a dancer. 00:06:06.079 --> 00:06:19.120 I went to college, I double majored in dance and psychology, and so they called me the psychotic dancer all over the campus because I would run from the dance side of the campus and then I would run across to the psychology side and I'd go back and forth all day. 00:06:19.279 --> 00:06:21.920 And so they were all like, There's the psychotic dancer. 00:06:22.240 --> 00:06:25.199 Uh, and I I was like, What am I gonna do? 00:06:25.279 --> 00:06:26.160 What am I gonna do? 00:06:26.399 --> 00:06:33.519 So I did I was think, you know, I did dance, I taught dance, but then I went and got my master's for marriage and family therapy. 00:06:33.600 --> 00:06:35.120 So I'm really into systems. 00:06:35.439 --> 00:06:43.600 I love one-on-one work, but you work really hard independently and then you go back into a system that's not working for you. 00:06:44.000 --> 00:06:46.240 It doesn't really have strong efficacy. 00:06:46.399 --> 00:06:50.959 So when I'm um in the therapy room, I'm always like, whoever shows up, shows up. 00:06:51.040 --> 00:06:54.480 Bring your mom, bring your dad, bring your friend, bring your sister, bring your kids. 00:06:54.639 --> 00:06:56.639 It's my favorite way to do therapy. 00:06:56.879 --> 00:07:12.240 And my favorite clients happen to be women that were in over-functioning, high-achieving, ambitious spaces, and they needed to learn to set boundaries and hand problems back to other people and their high-functioning codependency. 00:07:12.399 --> 00:07:16.319 And they actually benefited more from coaching than therapy. 00:07:16.480 --> 00:07:19.199 So that's how the coaching business was born. 00:07:19.600 --> 00:07:22.560 And I always say to myself, like, girl, are you good? 00:07:22.720 --> 00:07:25.680 Like then the podcast was born. 00:07:26.319 --> 00:07:29.040 And it's just kind of been, it's been fun. 00:07:29.199 --> 00:07:31.120 It's cool when people say, Who do you work with? 00:07:31.279 --> 00:07:39.519 I always kind of feel like myself, like

middle-aged women that are like kicking ass in life, but also like drowning. 00:07:39.759 --> 00:07:46.720 You're like, how am I feeling so successful and doing so good, but also feel like I'm like breathing through a straw underwater? 00:07:46.879 --> 00:07:48.879 Like, how can both be true, right? 00:07:49.680 --> 00:07:55.600 So those are my favorite people to work with, women that are just doing life like me, trying to figure it out. 00:07:55.920 --> 00:07:59.920 Yeah, I mean, you also have kids, and I mean, you got all that going. 00:08:00.399 --> 00:08:04.959 I talk to my cousin all the time about this because she has two kids and a husband. 00:08:05.279 --> 00:08:07.360 I have me, myself, and my dog. 00:08:07.600 --> 00:08:12.879 Which can be but actually probably equally busy depending on what's going on with your dog on a certain date. 00:08:13.120 --> 00:08:18.639 Yeah, and so since um this year has been kind of like a come to Jesus mode for us because we're like, you know what? 00:08:18.879 --> 00:08:27.279 We don't want to like go back to how our family was, who have like very unresolved things and they never like talk to each other about issues they've had. 00:08:27.360 --> 00:08:33.919 They just like let it sit there and fester, and we're like, we like, you know, like you always look at your parents, you're like, I don't want that. 00:08:34.080 --> 00:08:34.320 Right. 00:08:34.559 --> 00:08:36.000 But I can learn from that and change it. 00:08:36.080 --> 00:08:44.720 So her and I have been trying really hard to be more talking to each other about like that made me not feel so great. 00:08:45.039 --> 00:08:47.840 So okay, you and your cousin are doing that. 00:08:48.159 --> 00:08:49.440 Yeah, we're like sisters, yeah. 00:08:49.600 --> 00:08:52.240 Okay, I have a cousin and we do the same thing. 00:08:52.399 --> 00:08:56.080 We're like, okay, here's like gonna go well in the generation before us. 00:08:56.240 --> 00:08:58.080 It's like they balls you a baton. 00:08:58.159 --> 00:09:01.039 You're like, y'all did your best and we love you. 00:09:01.360 --> 00:09:03.039 And now it's like our turn. 00:09:03.279 --> 00:09:06.960 Pass the baton, like, what's what is our what are we gonna fix this time? 00:09:07.200 --> 00:09:08.480 And we do that together too. 00:09:08.559 --> 00:09:11.519 So that just made me feel so happy for you and your cousin to have each other. 00:09:12.080 --> 00:09:14.799 Right, I know, and I just I love I love our relationship. 00:09:14.879 --> 00:09:22.639 And like, you know, we've had like some big conversations, like, like, okay, like how can I be there more now that we don't live near each other? 00:09:22.799 --> 00:09:24.879 Like that kind of sucks, is what now that we're farther. 00:09:25.120 --> 00:09:30.480 I mean, she's only in Holly Springs, like, but for me, that's like 30 minutes, and like 30 minutes is the other side of the world. 00:09:31.200 --> 00:09:31.360 Right? 00:09:31.519 --> 00:09:32.320 We used to be five minutes. 00:09:32.559 --> 00:09:36.639 No, we we used to be five minutes from each other, and now we're 30 minutes. 00:09:36.799 --> 00:09:37.600 I'm like, oh my god. 00:09:37.759 --> 00:09:44.960 Well, that's because 30 minutes is an hour, listen travel, and then you have to, it's not, it's not easy, it's hard. 00:09:45.360 --> 00:09:50.480 It is hard, and so we've been trying to like navigate this whole like okay, we don't live so close. 00:09:50.639 --> 00:09:53.120 I can't we can't just hop over to each other's place anymore. 00:09:53.200 --> 00:09:56.559 And so it's just like, okay, like how can I be there more for you and the kids? 00:09:56.639 --> 00:09:59.360 And how can am I even being there enough? 00:09:59.440 --> 00:10:09.759 And I just feel bad, and just so it's like we kind of go through these like ebbs and flows, and so we've had conversations about how it's like about how you know having kids versus not having kid life. 00:10:09.840 --> 00:10:22.080 And so we've had those conversations too, like man, and so we've I've it's made me open my eyes and like man, like people who have kids, like that's I can't I couldn't imagine adding a child to my life right now. 00:10:22.240 --> 00:10:27.120 Like I would crumble and fall, maybe never come out of that hole. 00:10:27.440 --> 00:10:29.039 So I we are, yeah. 00:10:29.120 --> 00:10:35.200 Sometimes you have kids, sometimes you have to friends with kids, you gotta visit them in the hole sometimes. 00:10:36.240 --> 00:10:38.159 But we make sure they come out of their hole. 00:10:38.399 --> 00:10:39.360 Go get them out. 00:10:39.440 --> 00:10:41.279 Well, shout out to the cousin to Shelby. 00:10:41.440 --> 00:10:44.879 I'm like, this is just literally like how we are mixing and mingling. 00:10:45.039 --> 00:10:48.399 I'm like, you're gonna have to work to tag 30 people when you hear this episode. 00:10:48.639 --> 00:10:48.879 Yeah. 00:10:49.039 --> 00:10:49.679 Oh, 100%. 00:10:49.919 --> 00:10:50.960 Like everyone's gonna be tagged. 00:10:52.080 --> 00:10:52.639 Perfect. 00:10:52.960 --> 00:11:02.480 Yeah, in between that and then just like learning how to function between and then also my other friend, she just had a baby. 00:11:02.559 --> 00:11:05.759 And so it's like seeing another like new newborn life. 00:11:06.000 --> 00:11:08.240 I was like, oh man, like this is it's just like hard. 00:11:08.480 --> 00:11:12.399 I try really hard to put myself in other people's shoes to like understand and it. 00:11:12.639 --> 00:11:14.320 I'm just like, I don't know how you do it. 00:11:14.879 --> 00:11:33.200 I'm already struggling with just you're clearly such a good friend because you're literally having empathy and trying to like perspective take and be like, if I were you, even though I'm not, how can I serve you instead of just being like they're busy with their kids, they don't have time for me, right? 00:11:33.279 --> 00:11:35.039 Like you're clearly a good friend. 00:11:35.279

--> 00:11:38.960 So this is a win for me because I'm like, I just picked up a good friend. 00:11:39.600 --> 00:11:46.480 I mean, don't get me wrong, at when at first, when all this started happening, I'm like, um, but like I don't want my friend anymore. 00:11:46.799 --> 00:11:47.279 It's hard. 00:11:47.519 --> 00:11:53.279 Okay, you can lift but something a little bit in some series, even though it's normal, it's hard. 00:11:53.440 --> 00:11:53.919 Yeah. 00:11:54.240 --> 00:11:54.960 Oh, totally. 00:11:55.120 --> 00:12:00.399 And I just remember like, and from again, my cousins taught me everything about like a motherhood, right? 00:12:00.559 --> 00:12:07.279 And just like learning from her like postpartum and like all that stuff, and especially right now, just I think postpartum's like such a big thing, right? 00:12:07.440 --> 00:12:15.759 Um I so I've tried really hard to be there for my friend because she's still like in the postpartum, she just had her baby in January, so it's like oh brand new. 00:12:16.080 --> 00:12:19.759 She's still a brand new mom, and she's just like, This is crazy. 00:12:20.000 --> 00:12:24.240 Literally, it's like it, but you're doing great, he's still alive, yeah, right? 00:12:24.559 --> 00:12:25.600 You're doing great. 00:12:25.919 --> 00:12:26.639 He made it. 00:12:26.720 --> 00:12:37.440 I'm like, once you hit like six months old, I'm not saying it's always easier, I'm just saying that's usually when like me and my husband looked at each other and we're like, I don't think we'll die. 00:12:37.679 --> 00:12:38.080 Yeah. 00:12:38.320 --> 00:12:44.960 They start to have like a bigger personality, they're moving, they're like eating real food, and it's like, okay. 00:12:45.679 --> 00:12:48.480 Yeah, not just always keeping something alive. 00:12:48.720 --> 00:12:52.399 There's a joy in there mixed in more, you know. 00:12:53.039 --> 00:12:56.000 I keep me, my dog, my plants alive. 00:12:56.159 --> 00:13:04.720 That's that's my big tells me like your she might be because she's like, Your plants are your babies, and I'm like, they are they're thriving right now all over my living earth. 00:13:05.279 --> 00:13:07.120 I I have dead plants right now. 00:13:07.440 --> 00:13:09.440 So but you got two kids. 00:13:09.679 --> 00:13:10.480 We can't do it all. 00:13:10.559 --> 00:13:12.080 We gotta pick and choose. 00:13:12.879 --> 00:13:14.480 Choose which ones, yeah. 00:13:15.440 --> 00:13:19.039 So then, so going back, all right, so you did the dancing, you did the therapies. 00:13:19.360 --> 00:13:20.960 What made you want to do like the family? 00:13:21.279 --> 00:13:24.240 Because you do family therapy and marriage therapy, right? 00:13:24.399 --> 00:13:25.120 Yeah, yeah. 00:13:25.279 --> 00:13:26.159 So that was what means. 00:13:26.480 --> 00:13:27.679 But I love the system. 00:13:28.080 --> 00:13:30.399 I love anytime there's more than one person in the room. 00:13:30.559 --> 00:13:33.759 Because when I'm like one-on-one with someone, we do work, I love it. 00:13:34.080 --> 00:13:38.000 But it's always kind of like if this person were here, what would they say? 00:13:38.159 --> 00:13:40.080 And I'm like, invite them in. 00:13:40.399 --> 00:13:43.279 Let's find out, let's know, let's get some data. 00:13:43.519 --> 00:13:46.720 Like, what is this experience like for them, you know? 00:13:47.039 --> 00:13:55.440 Um, and not every therapist is comfortable with that, but because of my my licensure and my schooling, I'm like, that's my most comfortable place. 00:13:55.519 --> 00:13:56.720 The more, the merrier. 00:13:57.039 --> 00:13:58.080 Like, I love it. 00:13:58.159 --> 00:13:59.840 I'll be like, let's see who comes today. 00:14:00.000 --> 00:14:01.600 Love family therapy. 00:14:02.000 --> 00:14:03.200 Oh, that's so fun. 00:14:03.360 --> 00:14:04.080 That's so fun. 00:14:04.240 --> 00:14:07.519 And then I I mean, you probably get this all the time. 00:14:07.759 --> 00:14:10.639 Like the the name of your podcast, Girl, you good? 00:14:11.440 --> 00:14:14.399 Like, are you actually like I'm obsessed? 00:14:14.480 --> 00:14:15.279 I'm obsessed. 00:14:15.519 --> 00:14:17.120 Thank you, thank you, thank you. 00:14:17.840 --> 00:14:20.159 And so then tell us a little bit about that podcast. 00:14:20.240 --> 00:14:21.919 Like, kind of like who do you talk to? 00:14:22.000 --> 00:14:23.039 What do you guys talk about? 00:14:23.200 --> 00:14:24.000 All that kind of stuff. 00:14:24.240 --> 00:14:30.559 So I actually it's like short, I don't know how you'd say it in the podcast lingual, but it's like short form podcasting. 00:14:30.639 --> 00:14:33.840 So they're all under 10 minutes and they're just me. 00:14:34.320 --> 00:14:35.200 They're just me. 00:14:35.600 --> 00:14:36.559 So I love that. 00:14:36.720 --> 00:14:41.919 I've had one guest, Roxanne, love her, Roxanne um angstramhan photography. 00:14:42.080 --> 00:14:42.639 Yeah, yeah. 00:14:42.720 --> 00:14:43.039 Yep. 00:14:43.120 --> 00:14:45.919 Um she's amazing, love her. 00:14:46.080 --> 00:14:49.600 And she volunteered as tribute to do like um a first-time guest. 00:14:49.679 --> 00:14:57.279 So I'm like, maybe I'll do like a guest per season, or but they're short form, like listen to them on the way to work or on the way to whatever you're doing. 00:14:57.440 --> 00:15:15.360 And they're meant to be little reminders of things you already know how to do, but could use some encouragement on, or just just I don't know, uh, a truth that you can grab and be like, well, damn, I guess I'm gonna do that today. 00:15:15.679 --> 00:15:30.159 And and they're really targeted towards, like I said, like myself, like high functioning, overachieving, um codependent, low boundary, like people pleasing, all the stuff that gets in the way. 00:15:30.320 --> 00:15:32.399 So I have all those things. 00:15:32.639 --> 00:15:33.039 Right? 00:15:33.200 --> 00:15:34.559 And okay, I'm starting. 00:15:35.200 --> 00:15:35.919 I yes

you do. 00:15:36.000 --> 00:15:37.039 I'm like, they're short. 00:15:37.200 --> 00:15:43.600 You can listen to freaking five of them by the time you've driven there and home from your cousin's house. 00:15:43.759 --> 00:15:44.960 Um, that's true. 00:15:45.120 --> 00:15:45.360 Cool. 00:15:45.519 --> 00:15:45.840 Okay. 00:15:46.000 --> 00:15:49.200 I'm writing this down right now, and they'll follow you right after this. 00:15:49.519 --> 00:16:16.399 My biggest like podcast flex, if that's what you want to call it, is I was told there's so there's a lady I met, she lives in another state, and she told a friend of hers to listen to the podcast, and it's a man whose wife has passed away, and he has like a tween or teen daughter, and they've been having a hard time managing the grief and loss and what their relationship looks like now without a mom, like at a tender age. 00:16:16.720 --> 00:16:25.120 And they started listening to Grow You Good in the car, and they said it gives them like something to look forward to and like a topic to talk about. 00:16:25.440 --> 00:16:26.960 I cried, I cried. 00:16:27.120 --> 00:16:27.919 Oh but did you cry? 00:16:28.000 --> 00:16:33.279 I was freaking cried salty tears out my eyes and was like, put a fork in me. 00:16:33.440 --> 00:16:34.240 I'm done. 00:16:34.480 --> 00:16:35.120 I'm done. 00:16:35.279 --> 00:16:39.200 If I never I'm complete my mission, I've never been happier. 00:16:39.600 --> 00:16:43.360 So it's targeted women, but people will live. 00:16:43.519 --> 00:16:47.440 I mean, people will live, people will um watch with their kids. 00:16:47.679 --> 00:16:55.759 I know Roxanne listens with her daughter sometimes, so in um it's kind I don't know, it's a pretty chill vibe, I guess. 00:16:56.159 --> 00:16:58.159 Oh, oh my god, that's so sweet. 00:16:58.320 --> 00:16:59.039 Oh, I love that. 00:16:59.200 --> 00:16:59.519 I know. 00:16:59.679 --> 00:17:00.480 I love that so much. 00:17:00.799 --> 00:17:01.759 Just made me cry. 00:17:01.840 --> 00:17:18.160 And then my mom passed away in February, and I did a podcast about her that was gonna be like the season opener for season three, because I was like, I don't know, you know, that's a big change to have gone through between a season and I'm a different person. 00:17:18.319 --> 00:17:23.039 And so I I wanted to share that with the listeners, you know, like, hey, this happened. 00:17:23.279 --> 00:17:29.200 But I ended up putting it out right after I recorded it because it was cathartic and it just felt like it needed to get put out there. 00:17:29.279 --> 00:17:34.079 And I thought of that family because I was like, my mom died too. 00:17:34.319 --> 00:17:35.279 Like, I don't know. 00:17:35.440 --> 00:17:37.680 I hope you feel seen and loved, you know. 00:17:37.920 --> 00:17:39.839 So that fit goal for me. 00:17:39.920 --> 00:17:45.920 It's like healing for me, like finding out that I don't know. 00:17:46.079 --> 00:17:51.039 I thought maybe five people would listen if I was I was like, if I can serve one person, I've made it. 00:17:51.200 --> 00:17:57.759 And so just finding out that it's been meaningful to people is like uh it's my favorite thing. 00:17:58.079 --> 00:17:59.599 Isn't it like a cup filler? 00:18:00.000 --> 00:18:04.640 Yeah, 1000% overflow, yeah, which is great. 00:18:04.880 --> 00:18:15.200 Yes, I'm like, this is such a blessing, and I'm like, sorry, sorry, world, that I'm just like yakking into the ether, but it's fulfilling for me. 00:18:16.160 --> 00:18:17.759 Yeah, oh my gosh, I love that. 00:18:17.839 --> 00:18:19.200 And then what's the other one? 00:18:19.279 --> 00:18:20.480 Because you said there's something else. 00:18:20.640 --> 00:18:21.680 Girl, are you good? 00:18:21.920 --> 00:18:23.440 Oh, the group coaching. 00:18:23.599 --> 00:18:24.880 So after, yeah. 00:18:25.119 --> 00:18:38.160 So I have group coaching pods of like depend maybe like six to eight or nine women, and we meet twice a month and we do group coaching together and build a support community. 00:18:38.400 --> 00:18:40.799 And I have two pods right now going. 00:18:41.039 --> 00:18:43.279 I hope to keep building more and more and more. 00:18:43.440 --> 00:18:44.559 I'm obsessed with it. 00:18:44.720 --> 00:18:48.079 We have so much fun and it's such a good energy. 00:18:48.240 --> 00:18:49.440 It's my favorite. 00:18:50.400 --> 00:18:50.880 Love that. 00:18:51.119 --> 00:18:51.519 My favorite. 00:18:51.680 --> 00:18:56.720 And where are you located for your um therapy services? 00:18:57.039 --> 00:19:03.359 So, therapy I do in Holly Springs at Denome Alliances, which is Sarah Madres's company. 00:19:03.440 --> 00:19:04.880 I don't know if you know Sarah Madras. 00:19:06.000 --> 00:19:07.599 Um, she's awesome. 00:19:07.920 --> 00:19:09.440 We do a lot of work together. 00:19:09.519 --> 00:19:12.480 She's actually the co-facilitor for the capacity treat retreat. 00:19:12.559 --> 00:19:16.960 So when this airs, the capacity treat will have already retreat will have already happened. 00:19:17.119 --> 00:19:22.720 But um yeah, so she has a practice in Holly Springs called Denome, and I practice there. 00:19:22.880 --> 00:19:24.720 But I'm only doing one day a week there. 00:19:24.880 --> 00:19:28.000 Everything else is coaching, so the therapy roster is full. 00:19:28.160 --> 00:19:31.119 But I have co coaching open knife, yeah. 00:19:31.599 --> 00:19:32.240 Very cool. 00:19:32.400 --> 00:19:34.400 Um I love that you're kind of like a little bit of everything. 00:19:34.640 --> 00:19:36.559 Hi, girl, I love variety. 00:19:36.880 --> 00:19:38.559 Yeah, I love it so much. 00:19:38.960 --> 00:19:42.799 And what's the name of uh your therapy that you do? 00:19:42.960 --> 00:19:44.720 Um, or is it just a crowned picket? 00:19:45.039 --> 00:19:46.400 It's denome alliances. 00:19:46.640 --> 00:19:49.680 And then for coaching, my business is Cassandra Pickett Coaching. 00:19:49.839 --> 00:19:56.000 So

CassandraPickett.com and Cassandra Pickett coaching on socials, I'm all over. 00:19:56.079 --> 00:19:57.359 You can find me. 00:19:57.839 --> 00:19:58.480 I love that. 00:19:58.640 --> 00:20:01.119 So, how'd you come up with the name, Girl You Good? 00:20:01.359 --> 00:20:02.559 I say it to myself all the time. 00:20:02.720 --> 00:20:09.599 Like, I'll just be doing stuff I'm like, girl, like if I took a wrong turn, like I I'm bad geographically, like I'm no good. 00:20:09.759 --> 00:20:10.480 It's no good. 00:20:10.880 --> 00:20:13.440 And even like with the GPS on, I can mess it up. 00:20:13.599 --> 00:20:17.920 And so, like, I think this specific day, I like took a wrong turn. 00:20:18.079 --> 00:20:21.920 And I was thinking about I was out on a drive thinking, like, do I want to do a podcast? 00:20:22.000 --> 00:20:24.000 And I did the wrong turn and I was like, girl, are you good? 00:20:24.160 --> 00:20:25.599 And I was like, would that make sense? 00:20:25.759 --> 00:20:26.720 Would anybody get it? 00:20:26.880 --> 00:20:30.240 And I talked to Heather Eck, an incredible artist. 00:20:30.400 --> 00:20:38.319 She has A Fantasia, so she sees color aura around you, and she'll oh, that's it's freaking cool. 00:20:38.559 --> 00:20:41.200 And she does like healing work through that. 00:20:41.279 --> 00:20:42.400 So check out Heather Eck. 00:20:42.640 --> 00:20:43.359 Gotta tag her too. 00:20:43.440 --> 00:20:44.799 We gotta put her on our tag list. 00:20:45.119 --> 00:20:53.039 So she had started, she started a podcast, and I messaged her and was like, Is this make sense? 00:20:53.200 --> 00:20:54.000 Should I do a podcast? 00:20:54.079 --> 00:20:55.039 And she was like, Yeah, go do it. 00:20:55.119 --> 00:20:55.839 So I was like, Okay. 00:20:56.240 --> 00:21:03.759 And she told me, like, she's like, here's a mic to use, here's the platform I use, here's what you need, go for it. 00:21:03.839 --> 00:21:04.720 And so I did. 00:21:05.680 --> 00:21:07.039 Oh, I love that. 00:21:07.200 --> 00:21:08.640 Oh, that's so cool. 00:21:09.519 --> 00:21:10.000 Love it. 00:21:10.160 --> 00:21:19.599 I just love the like give and take of women in business, how somebody fulfilling their purpose in life inspires women to do the same thing. 00:21:19.680 --> 00:21:22.880 And I don't know, it's just uh I'm obsessed with that. 00:21:23.359 --> 00:21:25.359 I just think we're the best women. 00:21:25.440 --> 00:21:27.759 Oh, we're great, we're amazing. 00:21:27.839 --> 00:21:29.680 Yes, we're so good. 00:21:30.400 --> 00:21:32.079 Yeah, I was just on a panel yesterday. 00:21:32.160 --> 00:21:33.680 I was like an all-women's panel. 00:21:33.839 --> 00:21:35.359 Oh my god, so much fun. 00:21:35.519 --> 00:21:50.960 So I was on the obviously, I was on the marketing panel, and um, and so when my panel came up, uh my good friend Erica Rooney's next to me, Roxanne was next to us, and then I think her name is Christine with Pin Up Pinup Studios. 00:21:51.359 --> 00:21:52.400 Um, super cool. 00:21:52.480 --> 00:21:53.759 We had a really cool fun panel. 00:21:54.160 --> 00:21:55.680 And like all the other ones were really good. 00:21:55.759 --> 00:21:59.759 They're like a little bit more like on serious topics, and then we get to ours, and I'm like, yeah, you know. 00:22:00.160 --> 00:22:01.440 Like fuck this, fuck that. 00:22:01.759 --> 00:22:07.039 Just like it was so like we were laughing so much. 00:22:07.359 --> 00:22:08.079 Oh my god. 00:22:08.240 --> 00:22:11.039 And I told people, I'm like, stop, stop being so serious. 00:22:11.200 --> 00:22:12.480 Like, you gotta have fun with it. 00:22:12.640 --> 00:22:16.960 Like, if you want people to yeah, you gotta be relatable, have fun. 00:22:17.039 --> 00:22:18.480 Like, oh yeah, we had so much fun. 00:22:18.640 --> 00:22:20.559 So, like Roxanne, like we're all just like laughing. 00:22:20.799 --> 00:22:24.880 Girl, if Roxanne's there, capital F fun, it will be fun. 00:22:25.119 --> 00:22:25.839 Yeah, right. 00:22:26.000 --> 00:22:26.079 Right. 00:22:26.400 --> 00:22:30.480 And also, yeah, she did Erica's brand shoe. 00:22:30.559 --> 00:22:31.519 So I was there for the whole thing. 00:22:31.599 --> 00:22:33.440 It was so like we had a blast. 00:22:33.599 --> 00:22:36.000 It was a crazy busy day, but it was really fun. 00:22:36.240 --> 00:22:36.960 Hub spilling. 00:22:37.200 --> 00:22:37.599 There's some fun. 00:22:39.279 --> 00:22:39.839 Yes. 00:22:40.079 --> 00:22:40.720 Oh, yeah. 00:22:40.880 --> 00:22:42.000 I I'm all about it. 00:22:42.079 --> 00:22:42.720 It was a good time. 00:22:42.880 --> 00:22:43.599 That's awesome. 00:22:43.759 --> 00:22:44.799 So back to you though. 00:22:44.960 --> 00:22:54.559 So where uh something happened where something probably like really hard happened, like what was like a lesson that you took away from a hard lesson? 00:22:55.440 --> 00:22:56.559 That can't girl. 00:22:56.640 --> 00:23:00.880 This year, this year has been a tough year for me. 00:23:01.119 --> 00:23:09.119 So yeah, my mom passed away in February, and I was there for it and saw some things that you don't want to see. 00:23:09.359 --> 00:23:11.119 And that was tricky. 00:23:11.279 --> 00:23:14.640 And then somehow our family just kept taking hits. 00:23:14.960 --> 00:23:17.759 Like, I'm not sure what the lineup was. 00:23:18.000 --> 00:23:26.720 I it I don't understand the bingo card, but I just felt like, okay, this is hard and bad, but I could handle this. 00:23:26.799 --> 00:23:28.079 And then something else would happen. 00:23:28.160 --> 00:23:31.599 And I was like, okay, I guess I'm gonna handle that. 00:23:31.839 --> 00:23:36.559 And all the while building the capacity retreat with Sarah. 00:23:36.720 --> 00:23:44.640 So I'm like, how do I build my capacity to hold all of this hurt and not let it sweep me under the sweep me under? 00:23:44.720 --> 00:23:44.880 Right. 00:23:45.039 --> 00:23:46.480 Because that's the last thing I want to do. 00:23:46.559 -->

00:23:48.160 But I also don't want to avoid it. 00:23:48.400 --> 00:24:20.640 So just navigating that and balancing it and the fact that we'd been building this capacity retreat and did so much education and work in regulating the nervous system saved me because I was able to take all the stuff I'd been learning with polyvagal systems theory and capacity and your nervous system, and literally in real time, in the worst seasons of my life, practiced it and felt it work and was like, okay, this is gonna all come together. 00:24:20.720 --> 00:24:23.279 There's a purpose for this, there's a reason for this. 00:24:24.000 --> 00:24:26.960 And I don't know, it was just a cool experience, I guess. 00:24:27.119 --> 00:24:31.039 I'm not saying it's cool that my mom died, like, could have lived without that. 00:24:31.279 --> 00:24:31.599 Yeah. 00:24:33.759 --> 00:24:34.400 Like, damn. 00:24:34.480 --> 00:24:37.839 And now she's not even here to like tell me good job, so rude. 00:24:38.000 --> 00:24:56.079 Um, but just whatever that like real-time meshing of like building something for women that I know they need, but then living it myself and seeing it bless my life, and the mental gymnastics of all that have been really, really hard, but good. 00:24:57.119 --> 00:24:57.519 Yeah. 00:24:57.759 --> 00:24:58.160 Really good. 00:24:58.480 --> 00:25:00.720 I like to think that we can do hard things. 00:25:00.799 --> 00:25:03.759 And I have to remind myself that so many times a day. 00:25:03.920 --> 00:25:07.440 I'm just like, this is, I don't know if I can I don't know. 00:25:07.599 --> 00:25:08.160 This is tough. 00:25:08.240 --> 00:25:10.240 And I'm like, we can do hard things. 00:25:10.400 --> 00:25:12.799 We can do hard things, right? 00:25:13.119 --> 00:25:19.359 Um, my here's my my hack that works for me sometimes, most of the time. 00:25:19.519 --> 00:25:21.759 So anybody take it if you like it. 00:25:22.079 --> 00:25:25.599 I try to do things for future me. 00:25:26.079 --> 00:25:30.799 So I really don't want to do anything for myself, especially this year, right now. 00:25:30.960 --> 00:25:33.200 So just everything I do, I'm like, it's for her. 00:25:33.359 --> 00:25:40.640 Even if it's like loading the friggin' dishwasher, I'm like, yeah, future me is a badass queen. 00:25:40.799 --> 00:25:43.039 And she deserves she doesn't want to do this. 00:25:43.119 --> 00:25:45.920 Like, she's not gonna want to get her hands in this mess. 00:25:46.079 --> 00:25:47.279 Like, she shouldn't have to. 00:25:47.440 --> 00:25:47.920 You know what? 00:25:48.079 --> 00:25:49.440 I'm gonna do this for her. 00:25:49.759 --> 00:25:53.440 Or even like I don't know, having clean clothes. 00:25:53.599 --> 00:25:54.720 Like, what do I care? 00:25:54.880 --> 00:25:56.079 I'm struggling, right? 00:25:56.160 --> 00:26:02.880 I'm I'm going through it, but I'm like, damn, she's gonna want to shower and have clean panties when she comes out of this mess. 00:26:02.960 --> 00:26:03.759

Like, she deserves it. 00:26:03.839 --> 00:26:05.039 I'm gonna do this for her. 00:26:05.279 --> 00:26:11.599 So that's my that's my favorite hack right now is just be codependent with your future self. 00:26:12.000 --> 00:26:12.480 Mm-hmm. 00:26:12.799 --> 00:26:16.880 And it kind of starts to benefit all the versions of you, right? 00:26:16.960 --> 00:26:18.559 Like it starts to move together. 00:26:18.720 --> 00:26:20.000 So Yeah. 00:26:20.240 --> 00:26:23.839 I find if my place is dirty, not dirty, messy. 00:26:24.079 --> 00:26:24.720 Oh my god. 00:26:24.880 --> 00:26:31.119 I know it's gotten messy because like mentally I am I'm very self-diagnosed, ADHD, all the things, right? 00:26:31.200 --> 00:26:42.000 But I have classic, like I am all over the place, and like I can just see my place looking like how the inside of my head looks, and I'm like, girl, get it together. 00:26:42.240 --> 00:26:44.559 Like it's it drowned you. 00:26:44.799 --> 00:26:46.240 It does, yeah. 00:26:46.400 --> 00:26:50.720 And I I noticed it because like laundry is the bane of my existence. 00:26:50.880 --> 00:26:52.480 I hate doing laundry. 00:26:52.640 --> 00:26:54.880 There's nothing I hate more than freaking laundry. 00:26:55.359 --> 00:26:55.839 What? 00:26:56.559 --> 00:27:00.079 Oh my god, like I can get it into the washer. 00:27:00.640 --> 00:27:02.400 Past that, I don't I don't care. 00:27:02.559 --> 00:27:03.359 Oh, I don't care. 00:27:03.599 --> 00:27:08.559 My gosh, I have we bought one of the washers that wash and dries it. 00:27:08.640 --> 00:27:09.839 So I have one machine. 00:27:10.000 --> 00:27:10.400 That's a thing. 00:27:10.480 --> 00:27:12.160 Yes, hold up, one machine. 00:27:12.480 --> 00:27:13.279 It's snoo. 00:27:13.359 --> 00:27:14.160 I've never heard of that. 00:27:14.400 --> 00:27:19.680 I think people in Europe do it, but I got it at like cockto, like it's a real thing. 00:27:19.920 --> 00:27:26.640 You put your clothes in the wash, you turn it on, and it washes it and it dries it, and there's a keep fresh button. 00:27:26.799 --> 00:27:30.559 So then when I so I put it in, and then when I go back, it's dry. 00:27:31.200 --> 00:27:35.440 Because going from the wet to the dry is not possible for me. 00:27:35.599 --> 00:27:36.640 It's like not a thing. 00:27:36.880 --> 00:27:38.480 I'll rewash them six times. 00:27:38.559 --> 00:27:40.079 Like I just can't pull it off. 00:27:40.240 --> 00:27:40.720 Yeah. 00:27:40.880 --> 00:27:42.160 So I'm an idiot. 00:27:42.240 --> 00:27:42.880 I just Google this. 00:27:42.960 --> 00:27:44.240 They've been around for 73. 00:27:45.200 --> 00:27:46.640 Well, not in our house. 00:27:46.799 --> 00:27:49.839 I I'm just like a year in, so whatever. 00:27:50.559 --> 00:27:51.920 Never heard of this. 00:27:52.079 --> 00:27:53.279 Shout out to George T. 00:27:53.599 --> 00:27:58.559 Sampson who patented the clothes dryer that uses a rack over a stove. 00:27:59.359 --> 00:27:59.599 What? 00:27:59.920 --> 00:28:05.839 It's a freaking game changer for me because nothing's got that beer moldy in-between phase. 00:28:06.000 --> 00:28:09.200 Like, I can't I yeah, yeah, yeah. 00:28:09.440 --> 00:28:11.119 So put that on your bucket list. 00:28:11.359 --> 00:28:12.400 Alright, bucket list. 00:28:12.559 --> 00:28:14.160 Have a washer that dries your clothes also. 00:28:14.559 --> 00:28:17.200 Oh my gosh, my mind is blown right now. 00:28:17.279 --> 00:28:18.160 Like, holy crap. 00:28:18.319 --> 00:28:29.200 And I still suck at laundry and I still get backlogged and I still have clothes in baskets, but they're not like there's not that moldy in between touching wet clothes, feeling like you don't want to be doing anything. 00:28:29.359 --> 00:28:31.440 You eliminate that, it's a little better. 00:28:31.839 --> 00:28:35.920 So if you like what's the word for it? 00:28:36.240 --> 00:28:39.440 What texture, if you were to touch it, grosses you out the most? 00:28:39.920 --> 00:28:42.640 Um, I hate raw chicken. 00:28:44.319 --> 00:28:48.160 I find it disgusting. 00:28:49.039 --> 00:28:49.759 Disgusting. 00:28:50.000 --> 00:29:07.519 In fact, like like last week or so, I don't know, recently, like if you go onto my social media, like, I don't know, three reels ago probably, I was like cooking dinner and I was like, I'm gonna throw my phone up and I'll catch a little b-roll of me making dinner, a little wholesome video. 00:29:08.000 --> 00:29:12.240 It's chicken, and I uh literally disgusted the entire time. 00:29:12.319 --> 00:29:14.000 I went back and watched it and was dying. 00:29:14.079 --> 00:29:15.920 I was like, what the hell is this? 00:29:16.160 --> 00:29:17.440 So I posted it anyway. 00:29:17.680 --> 00:29:18.240 Stop pictures. 00:29:18.640 --> 00:29:22.319 I think I saw a video of you, and you're like, yeah, that's me with a chicken. 00:29:22.480 --> 00:29:23.599 That is me with chicken. 00:29:23.680 --> 00:29:25.039 It is disgusting. 00:29:25.519 --> 00:29:26.240 That is so funny. 00:29:26.640 --> 00:29:31.759 I was like, oh, I don't like to like go to bed with wet hair, have wet hair on my neck. 00:29:31.839 --> 00:29:32.880 I don't care for that either. 00:29:33.039 --> 00:29:33.839 That's a no for me. 00:29:34.160 --> 00:29:36.480 No, and I I got so much of it. 00:29:36.640 --> 00:29:39.440 Um, oh my god, nothing grosses me out like in the shower. 00:29:39.519 --> 00:29:44.079 I am like, because it falls out, so I take it, you know, plop it on the shower, and I'm like, I don't want to touch you now. 00:29:44.400 --> 00:29:45.440 And so it stays there. 00:29:45.680 --> 00:29:48.559 It's like when my mom or my cousin or some counselor, like, oh my god, Kaylee. 00:29:48.720 --> 00:29:50.240 I'm like, I do take it off. 00:29:50.319 --> 00:29:52.559 Like after it's dried, I will then pull it off. 00:29:52.720 --> 00:29:58.000 But like, oh hair that's not attached to a head is really tricky for me. 00:29:58.160 --> 00:30:00.480 It's shouldn't I know

it's irrational? 00:30:00.640 --> 00:30:03.039 I'm like, it's not, it's fine. 00:30:03.279 --> 00:30:07.839 Like, like if you asked me to touch your hair right now, I'd be like, sure, I'd play with your hair, to good. 00:30:08.160 --> 00:30:13.759 But if you oh they if you like pulled some out and handed it to me, I'd be like, it's so dumb. 00:30:14.000 --> 00:30:16.799 No, it's not no, it's so true. 00:30:16.880 --> 00:30:17.839 So that is a good point. 00:30:18.000 --> 00:30:24.000 So when it is loose hair, oh absolutely not like sweaty hair, oh my god, it makes me want to gag. 00:30:24.079 --> 00:30:24.559 I can't do it. 00:30:24.640 --> 00:30:26.559 But yeah, loose, wet hair. 00:30:26.640 --> 00:30:27.839 Any any just loose hair. 00:30:28.000 --> 00:30:33.279 And if it's like at a pool or something, I'm like, I I I literally have to like take deep breaths. 00:30:33.359 --> 00:30:34.960 It's and it's not rational. 00:30:35.599 --> 00:30:38.720 I'm like, girl, like it's totally rational. 00:30:39.039 --> 00:30:42.960 Come on, you'd be a but I like so bad. 00:30:43.839 --> 00:30:45.839 So sometimes you're like pulling out of the drain. 00:30:46.960 --> 00:30:48.400 Absolutely not. 00:30:48.799 --> 00:30:50.799 That's a hard no for me. 00:30:52.640 --> 00:30:54.079 So let's get to it. 00:30:54.559 --> 00:31:00.640 No, no, no, no, I chicken, clean my drain. 00:31:00.799 --> 00:31:01.440 I don't know. 00:31:01.680 --> 00:31:04.319 Save me, save me from all the icky things. 00:31:06.400 --> 00:31:08.559 Oh my god, it's so funny. 00:31:08.880 --> 00:31:11.599 So okay, rolling a bag just a little. 00:31:14.559 --> 00:31:16.240 I love all tangents. 00:31:16.480 --> 00:31:26.319 Um so if you were to talk to someone who's thinking about starting a business, what is a piece of advice you'd give them about said business? 00:31:26.640 --> 00:31:26.960 Okay. 00:31:27.519 --> 00:31:35.200 This is advice I heard my husband give someone, and I was like, that's the smartest thing ever, and it matched something in my brain. 00:31:35.440 --> 00:31:40.240 So there's something about like the two-year mark where things start clicking. 00:31:40.480 --> 00:31:48.079 And so anytime I'm talking to a business owner and they're like a month in, six months in, eight months in, they're like, I shouldn't be doing this, this isn't gonna work. 00:31:48.240 --> 00:31:51.359 And I'm like, until it's two years, grind away. 00:31:51.519 --> 00:31:52.480 Like just keep going. 00:31:52.640 --> 00:31:53.440 Something happened. 00:31:53.599 --> 00:31:57.119 I don't understand the magic of two years, but it happened to me. 00:31:57.359 --> 00:32:06.880 It happens to everyone I know where it's like you think the first two months are gonna feel like it clicks, or the first year even, but something happens at two years where it does. 00:32:07.039 --> 00:32:09.200 But so that's what I always think, right? 00:32:09.279 --> 00:32:10.319 Like, hang in there. 00:32:10.480 --> 00:32:12.720 But my husband said this, let's see if I can get it right. 00:32:12.880 --> 00:32:16.000 He was talking to the like Fukui Launch Group. 00:32:16.480 --> 00:32:18.160 I don't know, and do you know the launch program? 00:32:18.240 --> 00:32:18.799 I love launch. 00:32:18.880 --> 00:32:20.079 I did the launch holiday sprinkle. 00:32:20.240 --> 00:32:21.119 Love it, love it, love it. 00:32:21.279 --> 00:32:26.799 Um, and he was like, if you were going to get your bachelor's degree, you'd give it four years. 00:32:27.920 --> 00:32:35.359 You'd invest a lot of money, and you wouldn't be shitty to yourself every six months that you weren't graduated, right? 00:32:35.440 --> 00:32:39.680 You'd be like, I'm investing in something that's gonna take time and money. 00:32:39.920 --> 00:32:49.920 And he was like, if you can reframe your mindset to accept that in those first startup years of a business, you'll be more successful and you'll have less internal drama. 00:32:50.079 --> 00:32:51.359 And I was like, that is so true. 00:32:51.519 --> 00:32:57.440 I did so much school and I never once was like, you're such a damn bitch because you don't have your degree yet. 00:32:57.920 --> 00:33:01.359 Like, I'm like, I'll get it in six months when it's available to me. 00:33:01.519 --> 00:33:03.359 Like, what are we doing? 00:33:03.839 --> 00:33:04.559 I love that. 00:33:04.720 --> 00:33:06.880 Right, that's I ever heard that. 00:33:06.960 --> 00:33:08.960 That's so I know. 00:33:09.119 --> 00:33:11.920 Yeah, I like what's right. 00:33:12.559 --> 00:33:16.240 Wow, that is I love that nugget. 00:33:16.319 --> 00:33:17.039 That's a great one. 00:33:17.440 --> 00:33:18.480 Sprinkled nugget. 00:33:18.559 --> 00:33:23.839 Oh right, I love Hello, write that one down for later. 00:33:23.920 --> 00:33:24.720 That'd be a good one. 00:33:24.799 --> 00:33:25.440 Oh my gosh. 00:33:25.759 --> 00:33:27.039 No, I say that to myself too. 00:33:27.119 --> 00:33:32.319 And I'm like, I'm like, I'm barely graduating from my starting my business bachelor's degree. 00:33:32.480 --> 00:33:39.279 Like, it's not quite four years, and you're about to do four years with your big party, like that's your graduate, you're just starting. 00:33:39.680 --> 00:33:40.000 Yeah. 00:33:40.240 --> 00:33:47.440 Even though you're not, I know you're very successful, but like just imagine what you're about to compound into now that it's been four years. 00:33:47.759 --> 00:33:54.400 Yeah, and like so, so going on, like get kind of like giving yourself grace on something, like so. 00:33:54.480 --> 00:33:57.279 It took me the longest time to get this podcast going. 00:33:57.359 --> 00:34:02.000 I want to do this for like two years, and I'm like, it's not the right time, it's not the right time, not the right this, not the right that. 00:34:02.079 --> 00:34:05.920 And I'm like, oh my god, like I'm gonna go insane because I'm never gonna start this damn thing. 00:34:06.160 --> 00:34:06.319 Right. 00:34:06.559 -->

00:34:11.920 So it all came down to I'm like, I need a name that will like stick in people's mind. 00:34:12.079 --> 00:34:14.400 And I was so stuck on this name. 00:34:14.719 --> 00:34:25.679 And long story short, people have heard already, but like I was at brunch with a friend from my hometown, like she was my best friend growing up, like crunchy granola vibes, like we did Irish dancing together, so much fun. 00:34:25.760 --> 00:34:32.800 And her little sister, so much fun, and her little sister was like my little sister, she's very just matter-of-fact, like, yeah, duh. 00:34:32.960 --> 00:34:36.000 And um, so we're all talking, and I was they're asking me what's going on. 00:34:36.159 --> 00:34:42.480 I told them the idea for the podcast last year, and her little sister was like, Oh, all up in your business, duh. 00:34:42.559 --> 00:34:44.880 And I was like, Oh my god, that's it. 00:34:45.039 --> 00:34:45.519 That's it. 00:34:45.599 --> 00:34:47.920 Cause I'm literally just talking to people about their business. 00:34:48.159 --> 00:34:49.199 It's a great name. 00:34:49.360 --> 00:34:50.400 I remembered it too. 00:34:50.480 --> 00:34:52.960 I never remember people, the name of people's podcasts. 00:34:53.119 --> 00:34:58.079 And I heard yours and I was like, Oh my gosh, it's so fun and it makes sense. 00:34:58.159 --> 00:34:59.760 I know what your podcast is about. 00:34:59.840 --> 00:35:02.559 You don't even have to, but it's cute and playful. 00:35:02.719 --> 00:35:04.320 Like, yeah, good job. 00:35:04.639 --> 00:35:05.119 Thank you. 00:35:05.360 --> 00:35:05.599 Thank you. 00:35:05.760 --> 00:35:11.599 And so, like, as soon as like I had that like oh moment, I was just like, oh my god. 00:35:11.760 --> 00:35:12.480 And I ran. 00:35:12.559 --> 00:35:13.599 I was like, all right, that's it. 00:35:13.679 --> 00:35:16.000 And then I just took the hit the ground running. 00:35:16.159 --> 00:35:20.159 Made me wish I kind of started sooner, but I I would have had the name I had. 00:35:20.239 --> 00:35:25.760 But all that to say, like, I want this to turn into something more for business owners that I talk to. 00:35:25.920 --> 00:35:30.400 And so I'm trying really, really hard to be like, okay, like we are not quitting this. 00:35:30.559 --> 00:35:32.320 Like, you're not quitting this, don't quit. 00:35:32.880 --> 00:35:35.039 As Banksy says, we rest and not quit. 00:35:35.280 --> 00:35:36.000 Or learn to rest. 00:35:36.480 --> 00:35:37.519 Yeah, and this is good. 00:35:37.679 --> 00:35:40.000 You have there you don't need to live out of this. 00:35:40.079 --> 00:35:43.440 This is I know I'm like just learning about you and this, but I'm like, it's good. 00:35:43.519 --> 00:35:45.039 You're in a good spot. 00:35:45.360 --> 00:35:49.599 It is, and I I talk to so many different people, and I'm like, this is just all cool. 00:35:49.920 --> 00:35:53.440 I mean, and Raleigh and the surrounding areas are just there's so much. 00:35:53.599 --> 00:35:53.920 Oh, yeah. 00:35:54.000 --> 00:35:54.800 There's so much. 00:35:54.960 --> 00:35:57.199 And I'm like, I can find someone new all the time. 00:35:58.000 --> 00:36:03.119 So it's just like not giving up during that beginning phase of things. 00:36:03.360 --> 00:36:06.880 Cause like technically the podcast is not, it's I don't make money off it. 00:36:06.960 --> 00:36:09.280 I don't like care to it, I do it for fun. 00:36:09.599 --> 00:36:12.000 If eventually turns into that, hell yeah, that'd be awesome. 00:36:12.079 --> 00:36:15.440 But like, that's not the first, like, I just like to tell people stories. 00:36:15.519 --> 00:36:16.960 Like, that's fun for me. 00:36:17.119 --> 00:36:21.760 Um, but it's just like not stopping it though, because everyone's like, oh, you could do so much more with us. 00:36:21.840 --> 00:36:23.119 And I'm like, eh, we'll see. 00:36:23.280 --> 00:36:29.519 So that's why like doing this big event though, that would be like live pod, because I don't no one else is really doing that. 00:36:29.840 --> 00:36:31.440 I think it's it's kind of cool. 00:36:31.599 --> 00:36:32.159 I don't know. 00:36:32.400 --> 00:36:35.760 No, it is, and everybody knows it, and if they don't, they're wrong. 00:36:36.000 --> 00:36:42.639 But also the way you're doing it, like I don't know, like with that soul and the tarot and the s'mores. 00:36:42.960 --> 00:36:43.440 I don't know. 00:36:43.679 --> 00:36:48.480 Like you have a good bar, yeah, and you're sharing it with the world while you do it, that's attractive. 00:36:48.800 --> 00:36:50.400 Okay, question for you. 00:36:50.719 --> 00:36:52.320 You said you're an Enneagram three. 00:36:52.400 --> 00:36:54.480 Are you like familiar with the Enneagram? 00:36:55.360 --> 00:36:59.920 It's been a hot minute since I've done them, but from what I remember, I think I'm a three and a nine. 00:37:00.079 --> 00:37:01.840 It's either nine or seven, but I think it's nine. 00:37:02.000 --> 00:37:09.119 Okay, because I was gonna ask you if you had a type, like an Enneagram number that like a lot of people are that you like. 00:37:09.360 --> 00:37:21.199 Like if a bunch of your friends are a certain Enneagram number or probably like three or four years since I've done the Enneagram test, and I was like really into it. 00:37:21.360 --> 00:37:25.440 Uh I should probably do that with my friends though, because it's usually you need to know. 00:37:25.679 --> 00:37:32.159 I think I can't remember if it's like three, two, seven, nine are all like different play I ask. 00:37:32.239 --> 00:37:32.480 I don't know. 00:37:32.960 --> 00:37:37.840 Because I keep meeting people that are sevens and I love them. 00:37:38.079 --> 00:37:39.119 I love a seven. 00:37:39.519 --> 00:37:44.400 And a lot of sevens think I'm a seven and I'm not, I'm a total three, right? 00:37:44.559 --> 00:37:51.039 And sevens the enthusiasts, they're the positive, optimistic, outgoing, just like party life at the party. 00:37:51.280

--> 00:37:54.079 But you kind of feel fun like a seven. 00:37:54.239 --> 00:38:01.519 And I was like, but I have this theory that like threes and sevens get along really well and are like attracted to each other. 00:38:02.480 --> 00:38:07.840 So I just looked it up because it gives like a quick like what I am a seven, not a nine. 00:38:08.559 --> 00:38:10.800 Okay, are you I you are a seven? 00:38:11.039 --> 00:38:11.920 Are you a three? 00:38:12.079 --> 00:38:12.480 Yes. 00:38:13.119 --> 00:38:13.920 You're a seven? 00:38:14.239 --> 00:38:14.559 Yes. 00:38:15.119 --> 00:38:17.199 Yeah, three and seven with a nine. 00:38:17.519 --> 00:38:19.199 Because I am common kind. 00:38:20.400 --> 00:38:27.280 I can tend to avoid I used, I think I used to be a nine, because now like but avoids, like I don't really avoid things anymore. 00:38:27.360 --> 00:38:28.400 I kind of just go for it. 00:38:28.719 --> 00:38:30.559 So I'm definitely more the seven and three. 00:38:30.719 --> 00:38:33.280 Okay, we're gonna mess with this and find your default number. 00:38:33.360 --> 00:38:34.400 Obviously, not right now. 00:38:34.639 --> 00:38:43.440 I'm like, we're gonna get in there because everyone everyone's all the numbers, but you'll have a number that is yours, and then like a wing. 00:38:43.599 --> 00:38:50.320 But I was like, you're giving your event is like a seven, five, and three and seven how there's an energy with us. 00:38:50.559 --> 00:38:52.159 So that makes sense. 00:38:52.400 --> 00:38:53.119 I love it. 00:38:53.599 --> 00:38:54.239 It does. 00:38:54.400 --> 00:38:55.360 I love that kind of stuff. 00:38:55.440 --> 00:38:56.719 I'm like, give it to me all day. 00:38:56.960 --> 00:38:57.920 Enneagram's great. 00:38:58.000 --> 00:39:00.079 I use it at work, I even use it in therapy. 00:39:00.159 --> 00:39:01.280 It's really, really good. 00:39:01.519 --> 00:39:04.719 Um, like it's very good for partners, it's great for teams. 00:39:04.800 --> 00:39:06.320 I do Enneagram team trainings. 00:39:06.400 --> 00:39:14.639 Like, I'll go in to an org and like do the Enneagram with the team so they learn how to communicate with each other and not like piss each other off so much. 00:39:14.800 --> 00:39:15.360 It's so good. 00:39:15.599 --> 00:39:16.400 That is so smart. 00:39:16.639 --> 00:39:17.119 It's so good. 00:39:17.199 --> 00:39:18.480 I love a lot of love it. 00:39:19.280 --> 00:39:29.840 I've I mean, I've been by myself for four years, but I did take a year off where I went to two semi-corporty kind of places, and I'm like, this is not for me. 00:39:30.079 --> 00:39:32.719 In the first place, it was an all-women's team. 00:39:32.880 --> 00:39:36.320 And for being an all-women's team, there was no drama, which I was shocked. 00:39:36.639 --> 00:39:38.880 I was like, this is this is pretty great. 00:39:38.960 --> 00:39:39.840 This is great. 00:39:40.000 --> 00:39:46.480 Um, and then the next one, it was totally because the day I got to the first place, I was just like welcome with open arms. 00:39:46.960 --> 00:39:50.880 Got to the second place, it was not that way in the slightest. 00:39:51.039 --> 00:39:52.559 It was the most opposite of that. 00:39:52.639 --> 00:39:53.840 Like, no one wanted us there. 00:39:54.000 --> 00:39:56.719 It was me and two others that started that day, and they did not want us there. 00:39:56.800 --> 00:40:05.679 And I was like, Oh, this is on the word, like this, not fun, but like having people like to come in, I think more places should do that. 00:40:06.159 --> 00:40:16.960 Like having like whether it's a disc or the Enneagram or whatever it may be, like having people go in to like teach people like this is how you communicate with your teams and where you don't know how to do it yourself. 00:40:17.360 --> 00:40:17.760 Right. 00:40:18.000 --> 00:40:27.760 Well, and it's also so good with like um if you have to give someone feedback or receive feedback, knowing the ways that will trigger them and the ways that it won't, it's just so good. 00:40:27.840 --> 00:40:28.719 I love it. 00:40:29.199 --> 00:40:30.719 No, and that's such a great thing. 00:40:30.880 --> 00:40:38.159 So, like the last team I was just on, each of us on the team, I was the only female on the team, but each of us received things differently. 00:40:38.880 --> 00:40:43.039 And um, as soon as he started with me, but then he turned into my boss. 00:40:43.199 --> 00:40:48.960 But the way him and I worked, we were so polar opposites, but like we understood each other. 00:40:49.119 --> 00:40:56.159 Like, cool, if he was having his pissy pants day, and I like I just knew I'm like, okay, he is not happy today. 00:40:56.239 --> 00:40:58.079 So this is what we do to make him happy. 00:40:58.320 --> 00:41:01.440 So that but that was you a little overfunctioning there. 00:41:01.599 --> 00:41:03.360 Okay, I see you, Kaylee. 00:41:04.559 --> 00:41:05.599 But then it'd be opposite. 00:41:05.920 --> 00:41:13.760 Like if I was having like a bad day or not a great day, like he would know how to work with me, and so he would do things like and we just worked, it was like yin and yang, like so. 00:41:15.760 --> 00:41:20.079 It was a great working relationship, and I was like so sad when I had to leave. 00:41:20.159 --> 00:41:22.320 I was like, but like we work so well. 00:41:22.480 --> 00:41:24.159 Yeah, you're like, you want to come with me? 00:41:24.400 --> 00:41:26.239 Yeah, right, you come with me. 00:41:26.559 --> 00:41:43.760 But yeah, finding like finding people that you could work with and like understanding how they receive things, because like with him, I told him too, and I'm like, look, like you just need to explain, like you could say I did something wrong, but I'm gonna ask you every question of why and how I did that wrong, because I guarantee you I did not. 00:41:43.920 --> 00:41:44.079 Right. 00:41:44.239 --> 00:41:46.639 And so you need to prove to me how that I did it wrong. 00:41:46.800 -->

00:41:50.960 So, because I will gladly be like, you know what, you read, I did, I did mess that up. 00:41:51.119 --> 00:41:52.559 Uh don't you? 00:41:52.719 --> 00:41:55.360 I always have a note saved in my phone. 00:41:55.599 --> 00:41:59.440 Anytime someone does me dirty, and I'm like, remember this for later because my ADHD will forget. 00:41:59.519 --> 00:41:59.760 Uh-huh. 00:42:00.000 --> 00:42:00.480 Oh, yeah. 00:42:00.639 --> 00:42:04.320 People who like want receipts, they're keeping them. 00:42:04.480 --> 00:42:09.679 So if somebody's asking you for receipts all the time, just know they have they have a grimoire of receipts. 00:42:10.159 --> 00:42:10.480 Right? 00:42:10.559 --> 00:42:13.360 I'm like, just give me one business day and I'll come back to you. 00:42:14.320 --> 00:42:19.039 I am the opposite, which I'm not saying is good or bad, but I'm so the opposite. 00:42:19.199 --> 00:42:22.239 I'm like, it's baptized away, it never happened. 00:42:22.480 --> 00:42:26.239 If you ask for a receipt, I'm like, I don't know, you're back on sick ice with me. 00:42:26.400 --> 00:42:27.360 Like, I don't know. 00:42:27.519 --> 00:42:34.079 Like, if you're like, I'm a Scorpio, so if we're on thin ice, I'm watching you. 00:42:34.320 --> 00:42:35.280 I'm squinting. 00:42:35.599 --> 00:42:36.400 You're on audio. 00:42:36.800 --> 00:42:38.000 But once it's over, it's over. 00:42:38.079 --> 00:42:38.880 I'm like, we're good. 00:42:39.039 --> 00:42:39.440 We're good. 00:42:39.599 --> 00:42:40.639 That's very scorpio. 00:42:41.280 --> 00:42:41.920 Yeah. 00:42:42.239 --> 00:42:44.159 I'm Gemini, but I'm May Gemini. 00:42:44.480 --> 00:42:44.880 Nice. 00:42:45.360 --> 00:42:46.000 Oh, yeah. 00:42:46.239 --> 00:42:46.880 No Tore. 00:42:47.280 --> 00:42:47.679 Alright. 00:42:48.079 --> 00:42:48.400 Yeah. 00:42:48.559 --> 00:42:53.840 So like the May Geminis are supposed to supposedly the more normal chaotic one. 00:42:53.920 --> 00:42:56.400 And then the Junes are just like the crazy chaotic. 00:42:56.639 --> 00:42:56.960 Nice. 00:42:57.280 --> 00:43:03.280 I'm like, but I'm on the cusp because I'm like right at the end of May, so I could be either one, but I'm a twin. 00:43:03.360 --> 00:43:05.599 So okay, well, thank you so much. 00:43:05.760 --> 00:43:07.119 This has been such a fun conversation. 00:43:07.199 --> 00:43:08.639 I cannot wait to be friends with you now. 00:43:08.880 --> 00:43:11.039 But tell us where can people find you? 00:43:11.199 --> 00:43:15.599 Either physically, on the interwebs, the Facebook, all the things. 00:43:15.840 --> 00:43:16.480 All the things. 00:43:16.639 --> 00:43:26.000 If you're wanting to work with me, go to CassandraPickett.com and you can message me, join the pod group, work one-on-one, anything you want to do. 00:43:26.239 --> 00:43:29.199 Girl, you good is anywhere you listen to podcasts. 00:43:29.360 --> 00:43:31.199 I would love for you to go listen. 00:43:31.360 --> 00:43:33.360 And then socials Cassandra Pickett. 00:43:33.440 --> 00:43:35.519 Cassandra Pickett Coaching, come follow me. 00:43:35.679 --> 00:43:37.360 My Instagram's super fun. 00:43:37.840 --> 00:43:41.280 Um, I'm not on TikTok, and I'm really not on LinkedIn. 00:43:41.519 --> 00:43:44.559 So Instagram people come come join my world. 00:43:44.800 --> 00:43:46.079 And her stuff's really fun. 00:43:46.159 --> 00:43:48.239 So go go watch it, go follow. 00:43:48.400 --> 00:43:55.280 Also, go save girl you good on all of your listening platforms because I'm about to go do the same thing. 00:43:55.840 --> 00:43:56.079 Yep. 00:43:56.159 --> 00:44:01.280 And if you go to my Instagram, you can see me um touching the texture of Raw Chicken Live. 00:44:01.519 --> 00:44:02.559 Oh, there you go. 00:44:02.719 --> 00:44:05.920 I promise you, you wanted to see because it is so funny. 00:44:06.079 --> 00:44:07.760 Oh my god, I died laughing. 00:44:07.840 --> 00:44:08.320 It was so good. 00:44:08.480 --> 00:44:09.519 I'm like, there's so many. 00:44:09.679 --> 00:44:12.159 I'm like, we need a support group, people who hate raw chicken. 00:44:12.400 --> 00:44:15.360 I see people like on TikTok and they like will start washing their chicken. 00:44:15.519 --> 00:44:18.239 I was like, okay, like that that freaks me out. 00:44:18.320 --> 00:44:24.719 I don't think it's supposed to want there's people who are like, I won't eat at other people's houses because I don't know if they wash their chicken. 00:44:24.960 --> 00:44:26.000 Sh the whole world. 00:44:26.159 --> 00:44:27.119 It's the whole world. 00:44:27.199 --> 00:44:27.920 We know too much. 00:44:28.079 --> 00:44:30.400 We know too much about other people, but whatever, I'm part of it. 00:44:30.559 --> 00:44:30.960 Whatever. 00:44:31.199 --> 00:44:31.440 Fine. 00:44:31.679 --> 00:44:32.719 Doggy dog world. 00:44:33.199 --> 00:44:34.880 The chick chicken chicken world. 00:44:35.039 --> 00:44:37.840 Does anybody need to know what I look like when I touch chicken? 00:44:38.000 --> 00:44:38.320 No. 00:44:38.480 --> 00:44:39.119 But whatever. 00:44:39.280 --> 00:44:40.079 Here we are. 00:44:40.320 --> 00:44:40.880 We do. 00:44:40.960 --> 00:44:42.159 It's lyrics. 00:44:42.320 --> 00:44:43.519 We do, actually. 00:44:43.920 --> 00:44:44.960 Actually, we do. 00:44:45.039 --> 00:44:46.880 And I'm happy with this is great. 00:44:47.039 --> 00:44:49.119 I'm so glad you had me. 00:44:49.280 --> 00:44:51.280 And uh it's awesome meeting you. 00:44:51.440 --> 00:44:52.400 This has been awesome. 00:44:52.559 --> 00:44:57.199 Hello to all your listeners, and I can't wait to tag all the people we talked about. 00:44:58.000 --> 00:44:58.639 I know, right? 00:44:58.719 --> 00:45:01.440 I have to like have a running list of like, okay, Michelle. 00:45:01.760 --> 00:45:03.679 So, so okay, cool. 00:45:04.000 --> 00:45:05.920 Well, thank you everybody. 00:45:06.079 --> 00:45:08.719 Go follow, subscribe, all the things you do. 00:45:08.960 --> 00:45:09.679 What else? 00:45:09.840 --> 00:45:12.559 Oh, if you want to leave me a review, that's cool. 00:45:12.800 --> 00:45:13.920 Would love a review. 00:45:14.159 --> 00:45:20.480 By the time this is out, everything that I we talked about with my event, everything, it should be out. 00:45:20.559 --> 00:45:21.360 I mean, it should be. 00:45:21.440 --> 00:45:22.159 It will be out. 00:45:22.239 --> 00:45:28.639 If there's tickets available still, I'm not sure, but do all the things and we'll catch you on the flip side. 00:45:28.800 --> 00:45:32.159 Yes, have so much fun at my birthday party on November 2nd. 00:45:32.320 --> 00:45:33.840 All right, thank you everyone.