Full Transcript for FIVEAA Afternoons with Leith Forrest - 21 July 2026

could even be digital watches as well, and other digital devices that might receive these alerts might play through your blue cheeth on your car speaker. That for many this could really pose a very serious issue of safety for people who have perhaps a device, a phone that is hidden. For many people, telephones are monitored or even taken away from them in violent situations. 00:06:46 Speaker 2: So a lot of people may or may not know this fear, and myself included when I because this has been filling my feed the last week or so with people just alerting people who are in domestic violence situations. So safe phones are given to clients, aren't they sometimes if there's the risk that the primary phone is used by the perpetrator of the violence, Yeah, that. 00:07:06 Speaker 8: Is that is correct and often kept in safe places. But with this very important alert that will be happening next Monday, the alert is designed to override all of those all of the features that so if it's on silent mode or do not disturb mode, this alert will actually override that. So it's really of quite you know, we don't want, we don't want to scare people and we don't want to unnecessarily put any extra fear or extra burden on people. But to think about in the next week, what is that plan that you might have if you have a safe phone or a phone that has been given to you, of how you might keep that perhaps in a separate location or put it onto flight modes so that at the time when this alert might happen, that you it might not unwishingly give itself away. 00:08:00 Speaker 2: Is that would be horrific? Wodn't it If somebody is unaware that this alarm is going to set off on Monday, this alert will be sound. They don't know they have a phone that is hidden so that they can keep it away from the perpetrator of the violence there and then all of a sudden, so obviously that the alert, I guess is to put it into flight mode or to turn the phone off for a period of time. That's the safest way to do it. Do we know group's able to get that message out, Fiona to those people in need and in threat? 00:08:29 Speaker 8: Yeah, look, look it is it's really important that if you have the ability to share that and whether it's in your conversations or whether it might be on your social media. I do know that in recent weeks, in my role also as the President of the National Council of Women of Australia, we've been sharing this information across all of our member organizations. Many have come back to us and questioned, you know, is this a scam? Is this really going to happen? And know the OSLO the testing will happen. And there is more information of course on the ODDS Alert website and also on the social media and organizations like one eight hundred Respects are also providing more of that information. 00:09:13 Speaker 5: So do. 00:09:15 Speaker 8: Engage with that information if you can, and pop that phone somewhere that is out of out of earshot and keep it, keep it safe and turn it onto flight mode. And I see that the recommendations are to turn it onto flight mode up to an hour beforehand and up to twenty four hours after. So for those phones that might continue to ring or be for alert, it is important to keep that in mind what your phone device might do. 00:09:47 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's great advice. Fiona Dorman is my guest chairperson of the Premius Council of Women. I was reading Fiona two that women who live regionally face an increased risk of domestic violence. They are the ones who are needing this particular alert, not for that situation necessarily, but also higher exposure to emergency events like a bushfire, like a natural disaster. So it's twofold there again. You just hope the message gets through ahead of Monday. 00:10:13 Speaker 8: Yeah, that's exactly right. And I've noted that in the last day or so there's more advertising, a bit more information going out on the commercial stations and on the ABC. So if you see it, just do know that it is it is real. This is a real message. It is designed to keep us all safe in all of those situations where we might need to know on Mas that that there is a situation unfolding. But just to have in mind if you have a plan ahead in the next seven days six days, to put that phone somewhere that is nice and safe. As you heard before when you so rightly played the alert sound that is it is quite piercing. You will hear it. It is designed to cut through all the noise, so so just be really mindful that that will happen. It's a three pm Eastern, which makes that one thirty pm Central next Monday, the twenty seventh, And I heard. 00:11:16 Speaker 2: Kirsty McBain, the Federal Emergency Management Minister, say too that every mobile phone will be impacted, so new phone, old phone, you know, Apple phone, doesn't matter what the brand is, they'll all get it. At one thirty next Monday here in Adelaide, our time. So certainly a message that needs to get out there, and we want everyone to share that message. Fiona, thank you appreciating your time this afternoon. 00:11:37 Speaker 8: Thanks Leathan, Thank you to all of your listeners. 00:11:40 Speaker 2: Pleasure keep out the great work Premier Council for Women chairperson. That's Fiona Dorman, friend of show, friend of station. We love the work that we're able to do with the amazing team from Catherine House. The manager of philanthropy there is Jayllie Cooper, Jallie. Lovely to have you on this afternoon. 00:11:57 Speaker 5: Too, good after namely, so you are I guess. 00:12:00 Speaker 2: Day to day with this too, aren't you. Is this a concern for you as well, these conversations that you're having around the halls there at Catherine House. 00:12:07 Speaker 9: Yeah, absolutely, and I certainly echo everything that Fiona has certainly said around the advice there. Look for us that Catherine House, certainly majority of the women that we see are coming from domestic and violence do Mesican family violence situations, either proceeding coming

to Catherine House or in their background. So it's certainly very much part of the safety planning that we do with all clients that come to Catherine House, particularly around the technology side of things, because we often find that a phone is often one of the first things that you know, potentially the perpetrators may be looking to have access to a wall control. 00:12:48 Speaker 2: Yeah, so I didn't realize that Jailie that you know, if there are a safer and that makes sense because I guess they can control who's ringing who they're calling, but also I guess it's a advice that they are able to find out where people are, you know, as a tracking device. 00:13:04 Speaker 9: Yeah, tracking their locations in like last three sixty and snap maps and those sorts of things, which are a lot of a lot of people people use, you know, for for women particularly that are in those violent relationships, that that's often how that they're getting tracked. So for a lot of the clients, particularly many of the clients that come to cast and House, one of the first things that that we do when they get here is is talk to them about do they need a new device and and set that new device up for them. And that could be because you know, previously need to change a number or those sorts of things as well, or you know, they do need an additional safe safe phone. So a part of our you know, everyday practice when women are contacting us and even when women are you know, on our weight list, is doing that risk and safety planning. So as I said, I certainly echo everything that's known as said, but for women, you know, in the next week or so, certainly reach out to any of the support services around if they're wanting some additional support around what they what they should do around their own safety plans. 00:14:12 Speaker 2: I just didn't know, Jaylie, to be honest, I did not know that there was an issue with SAP phones. Is that is that commonplace, has that been around for a while, or is that a newer sort of addition. 00:14:22 Speaker 9: And unfortunately, yes, you know, technology has you know, so many great advantages, but they're certainly disadvantages when it when it comes to this. And you know, I know I remember hearing back through COVID times that the amount of you know, intervention orders actually decreased during that time, but that's because a lot of women were stuck at home with their perpetrators. You know, so we're very you know, we are very goven to what is sort of happening around us as well. And that's why, you know, this obviously is getting rolled out for reasons and positive reasons, but we just have to acknowledge that there are potentially some impact for people that are experiencing violence, and then just a few of those steps that can be taken to make sure that those people. 00:15:08 Speaker 2: Are safe, and that would be part of the domestic violence issue, would not necessarily just the physical harm, but that coercive control, like if you control who somebody sees, who somebody talks to, where they go, et cetera. 00:15:20 Speaker 9: Yeah, very much so, And I think there's a lot of recognition now as they should be in terms of you know, coercial control control being you know, an issue, and I think previously a lot of people have thought about domestic and family violence as physical only, but you know, we absolutely know that physical violence is only one aspect of it. There's certainly many other forms of violence. And having that control over someone in terms of monitoring their sort of every move, monitoring, you know, even what websites they're looking at I mean you receive. If you go onto websites like Catherine House or are Women's Safety services, you'll often see that there's a quick exit button on those and that's so that you know, if potentially they are on a device, whether or not that be a computer, or whether or not that be on a phone, if you know, our perpetrator or someone is looking over their shoulder or coming up behind them, then they can quickly exit out of that. So, you know, as support organizations like ours, we certainly have to keep up with all of that in terms of what we you know, in terms of all this wonderful advancement in you know, in technology, but in you know, how do we talk to women about keeping themselves safe? You know, not only with the device, but lots of things. We talk to women now about scams. You know, we've had women who've experienced you know, financial hardship because of scams and that have needed the services of Cats and House. So there's lots of different elements that we're obviously talking to women about. 00:16:50 Speaker 2: Charlie, has the government, state or federal done enough you think in terms of roll out and the time for you to support people to provide advice to clients, to women. 00:17:01 Speaker 9: Yeah, look, I think in regards to this, there's there's really you know, they've been really quite active and it's really I think up to organizations as well to make sure you know that we are speaking to the clients as well. As Fiona said, you know, we relying on the community too to share it more broadly. I know that we have shared it through our social media on Catherine House. So just really relying on as many people as possible to try and get it out that you know, it's happening next Monday, and you know, if there is that potential risk to either you know, turn off that phone or pop it on aerophone mode, or you know, it could be that you've got a trusted person maybe that you know you might give it to. But just just planning for that for next Monday. 00:17:42 Speaker 2: So we have one of our texts Jalie from Andrew. He said, for an iPhone, it's simple, you just flick the silence switch on the top, it's the left hand side of the phone. But that won't stop it, will it. From what we've told it. 00:17:52 Speaker 9: Won't know, so it will be overridden. So my understanding is is that the phone would need to be turned off at

least an hour before and up to twenty four hours afterwards. And same with if you were flicking it to aeroplane mode. Or it could be that you know you, you don't actually even want to have it on you or in the vicinity. Perhaps you've got a trusted person that you might be able to give it to. But I think the best thing to do is to yet to turn it off or put it on the aeroplane mode. Yeah, to make sure that that doesn't happen, because just flicking it to silent won't work. 00:18:31 Speaker 2: It's great advice. Before we let you go, How are things at Catherine? How are you? Are you seeing an influx? Are things settling down for you? Is it sort of stay. 00:18:40 Speaker 9: Always always really busy lead I mean particularly you know in the winter months. It's particularly cold at the moment, but you know we certainly often see those spikes around the heart of wind power and also the heigh of summer, you know, in terms of particularly people that are sleeping for women, particularly sleeping in their car or sleeping rough. So always really busy, but must stay very looking forward to the undie drafts, yes, which is which is coming up because it is it is just a great time for the south of strailing community to get behind Catherine House and Hunt Street. So we're very much looking forward to that and what can be done this year. 00:19:21 Speaker 2: You know, we love the partnership. We get nervous when when all of a sudden there are dares and things that come up that we have to do. But it's all for a brow. 00:19:29 Speaker 9: We said to stay. See, she needs to brace ourselves this year because it's. 00:19:32 Speaker 10: Going to be her. 00:19:35 Speaker 5: Hundred. 00:19:35 Speaker 2: She can do some heavy lifting for sure, get her and jumping off the jetty Stephen Rowe of he has gone by. 00:19:41 Speaker 9: Yeah, yes, yes, yes, so looking forward to it. But you know when when you we think about how great the undie driver is, you know, we're constantly reminded when we hear and we have conversations like we're having with you today, the importance of ensuring their services like half around, you know, to ensure that we can be there for people who are experiencing bondobil, to make sure that we you know, we're passing on this information. We are not very much looking forward to it. 00:20:05 Speaker 2: We love the relationship and the friendship that we have before we let you go. For people who might need your services there at Catherine House or anyone who's listening who wants to help support. What do we need to know? 00:20:15 Speaker 9: Yeah, look, you know it is it's really important that that women know that they can contact Custher and House directly. You know, if they are looking for support, they can contact us or jump onto our website or even through social media. You'd be surprised how many women actually now contact through direct direct message. And this is again the advantage of technology in that positive ctenter is there's lots of various different ways in which women can reach out and contact us for support. So you know, we just always encourage women to know that they can self referred. They don't Women don't have to be referred into Catherine House through an agency or a GP. They can also self refair if they wanting to or they're needing support. So yeah, please do so well done. 00:21:02 Speaker 2: You're a saint, amazing work that you do. Jayly, thank you. We'll speak to you soon. 00:21:05 Speaker 9: Thanky. 00:21:06 Speaker 2: Thanks Jaylie Cooper, manager of Fundraising there at Catherine House. So just repeating again and ken on the text at least, how long does the emergency alarm go for when it's activated? Does the user turn it off or does it go buy off itself. Ken, it will turn off automatically. It will go for ten seconds. Next Monday, twenty seventh of July one thirty pm. You will hear. So you can imagine why if you're in a domestic violent situation, you do not want that going off on the phone that you have hidden or your device, maybe like your Apple Watch, as Fiona was suggesting. So if you ask someone who is in that particular position, you need to turn your phone off. You need to put it on aeroplane mode. As both Fiona and Jayleen mentioned, the advice that's been given is one hour before that, So hap us twelve next Monday, and then potentially leave it off for twenty four hours afterwards, if you can give the phone or the device to a friend, if you can hide it somewhere where the perpetrator of the domestic violence will not hear it, because that is certainly something that people will not want on things that are hidden next Monday. So most importantly for the rest of us, those of us who are luckily enough to not be involved in a domestic violence situation. For us, it's all about communication. Tell people have the conversation with people, let them know that this is happening on Monday at one thirty Adelaide time and people need to adjust accordingly. So my thanks again to Fyoda Dorman and Jayley Cooper. That's OS Alert next Monday, one point thirty here in Adelaide. 00:22:40 Speaker 4: Five double A afternoons with Lee Forest. 00:22:44 Speaker 2: Twenty five minutes to two. It's an exciting couple of days here in Adelaide. It's the nineteenth Australian Space for them. It's presented by the Andy Thomas Space Foundation. Together it is bringing space agencies and defense figures, senior government industry leaders all in our Adelaide today and tomorrow. Now some of the big guns in attendance a doctor Ben Ashman. He's the Mission and stakeholder Engagement at NASA in Space, Communications and Navigation. Here's a man by the name of Steve Butteo who is the director of the Space Portfolio at the US government Defense Innovation Unit. The Australian of the Year, our own astronaut Katherine bnel Peg will be there. Head of the Australian Space Agency, is there. National Space Agency is Singapore Taiwan as well. And my next guest, who is a polar explorer, an

astronaut, the owner of Ice Trek Expeditions and Equipment, Eric Phillips, he joins me this afternoon. Eric, thanks so much for your time. Greatly appreciated, oh Ara's great being with you. What a coup this is, this event for South Australia and our space industry. 00:23:45 Speaker 11: Ah, look it really is. And I grew up here in Adelaide. I was a seven year old boy at my Tara Hills Primary School. Gathered together with my schoolmates in the gym sort of expecting this, you know, something's going on because we don't know normally do this. And suddenly a teacher wheels in with a trolley and a TV on top, plugs it in and a grainy black and white vision comes on and that they're watching them, and we're watching the moon landing. And you know, also with South Australia's amazing outdoor resources like the Flinders and the beaches and all of those places, I was just so captivated by both that mission and the outdoor environment that I just did everything that I could to find lunar like landscapes like Antarctica and the Arctic. 00:24:31 Speaker 2: Eric, it's so funny you say that because I've heard so many people, particularly astronauts, everyone was so captivated by Sadly I didn't get to see it because of my age, but everyone talks about the wheeling in of the television. What it made such an impact on so many people. 00:24:46 Speaker 11: Ah, look, absolutely, and you know at the time, of course you think, wow, it must have been something important, but it doesn't really resonate. But the thing about it was that for the rest of my life, these images were just flashed through my consciousness from time to time and I never really gave them much thought until I had the opportunity to fly in space and then I put two and two together. It's like, Okay, that incident back then really drove me my whole life to become a polar explorer and then eventually an astronaut. 00:25:18 Speaker 2: As a proud south I was yourself. I wonder if people realize, like our research institutions and the community that we have here in space now, Eric, where an event like this, the two days here in Adelaide today and tomorrow. It puts us on the forefront, doesn't it. It's about cooperation and collaboration for people in this field. 00:25:36 Speaker 12: Oh. 00:25:36 Speaker 11: Absolutely, South Australia is the space to be it really is. I mean, how well does that resonate? It is a hub for all kinds of government, industry, private enterprise. It's all happening, well not all of it, but there's so much happening here in South Australia, and Adelaide's a great hub for it. Of course, we've got the Australian Space Agency, We've got the Andti Thomas Foundation, who are a supporter of this event, the Space Week that I'm here in Adelaide for, and you know, I'm meeting with people from all across the space industry who are essentially teaching me because I've kind of come this through the back door and really only introduced to space what I flew into space just last year. So I'm learning a lot but realizing how much capability that we in Australia and particularly South Australia have. 00:26:28 Speaker 2: It's one of the great flexes. I feel not worthy speaking to you, Eric, to be honest, because last April you got to complete the first human spaceflight over the North and South Pole. You spent four days in space with crew members part of SpaceX and the Frame two mission. 00:26:44 Speaker 5: There. 00:26:44 Speaker 2: I know you're speaking about this for those people in attendance, But in a nutshell, what's it like? What was your experience like? Your takeaway? 00:26:53 Speaker 11: Oh, look, it's an astonishing experience. And you know, of course, very fortunate that I was the chosen one who became one of the crew members. It wasn't purely by chance. I just you know, being the best in my field as a polar guide. Met another client who was a client who was on an expedition of mine, who was the world's first crypto billionaire. He put two and two together and said, I need someone on a polar mission because I've planned the very first human mission to orbit over the North and South Poles. So when we were up there in orbit and we did fifty five orbits over the North and South Poles, looking down over Antarctica and the Arctic by humans for the very first time is something incredibly profound. We see Earth as it truly is instead of you know, these perhaps curated images that we get from other Earth observation platforms. So it was a magnificent experience, both for the research and the stem that we brought back, but also just for the pure joy, wonder and adventure of it. 00:27:58 Speaker 2: Did you find yourself going back to that young child sitting on the floor watching that TV. 00:28:05 Speaker 11: Absolutely, and how could you not you know, when that that pivotal moment in your life that has just resonated throughout the you know, the previous more than fifty five years, suddenly just comes to fruition. And yeah, as I said, it's a it's a profound moment. But in a way, for me, the profundity was was that here I'm observing the South Pole, I'm observing Earth, I'm observing observing the cosmos, and all of those rules that govern the universe are just to play down there. So to see it in action was just an incredible experience. 00:28:43 Speaker 2: Did you have a takeaway from the whole experience? So excited? I mean, we're excited just to hear it, Eric, let alone, when you got to leave that was there something you loved more than others or you didn't expect? Was there something you remembered? And that's the first thing you're telling people when you return. 00:28:57 Speaker 11: Oh, look, micro gravity it's just so much much fun. You know, the moment we're inserted into orbit, well, really the moment we're above the Carmen line and actually in space where we're still strapped into our seats and we see our seat restraints, our seat belts, the ends of them floating by our sides, like, oh, we knew this was coming, but we're

among it now. And then mission command to let go of our zero G indicator, which is a plushy polar bear with an Emperor Penguin necklace, and it's just floating around within the space of the capsule, and it's just so much fun. And there's a big push at the moment, certainly here in South Australia and across Australia for research in microgravity. So no more an apt moment than to be telling about my experience of microgravity and the push towards gaining knowledge here in Australia about it. 00:29:51 Speaker 2: Eric Phillips is my guest polar explorer astronaut, owner of Ostrich Expeditions. He in Adelaide today and tomorrow for the Australian Space Forum. I think you'd have to pinch yourself at times, Eric, to remember we got work to do. This is business. This could just be fun. You could almost do like a recreational flight for fun. But I'm sure you got a lot out of it. 00:30:11 Speaker 11: Oh yeah, I did, And Essentially it was private spaceflight. It was a very wealthy individual that invited three people to do a mission that was ground breaking, There's no doubt about that. So it was very exploratory and that's my career as a polar explorer. But there was a lot of research and science that we did on board too. We took the very first X ray in space. This is important because on long duration missions through Mars and beyond, you know, astronauts can injure themselves. You could potentially break bones, and you want to know the state of their health of their bones while they're up there. We grew mushrooms. We traveled with a substrate of my celium and we saw the very first pinning or colonization of mushrooms on this substrate. We returned it back to Earth and they grew through to full fruiting. So there's an indication that that space crops will be very viable in the future. So yeah, it was a joyous, wonderful, exploratory, fun expedition, but a lot of really fantastic research done too. 00:31:11 Speaker 2: I just keep thinking, you go to the supermarket, Eric and somebody asked, how was your day? Not bad? Actually, I went over the North and South Pole. Well, you are talking about how space powers Australia's critical systems. For those of us who don't quite understand that, can you give us some idea of what you're talking about. 00:31:28 Speaker 11: Oh, look, satellites and of course everyone's familiar with satellites, they're orbiting above us all the time. But the satellites, you know, they do things like navigate our aircraft and our ships and our emergency service and actually they're even used to on the tractors plowing the fields in regional Australia. Earth observation of course is really important for monitoring bushfires, are also monitoring coral bleaching or egal fishing and forecasting systems that we use all the time, and these are based on or built on space based sensors. They saved lives up in the North during cyclone season. And then the communications satellites of course that connect our remote communities and our defense

forces and disaster response and so on. So this is critical space infrastructure and we just can't be caught sleeping. We need to be the leaders in this and that's certainly where Australia is heading. 00:32:28 Speaker 2: Well, it's a fascinating insight. We appreciate you giving up some time. I know you've got a big couple of days there at the forum, but welcome back, Welcome back to Adelaide. I'm sure you have a great time and I'm sure a lot will come out of the two days here. 00:32:39 Speaker 11: It sertainly will. Thanks for the opportunity. 00:32:41 Speaker 2: Wonderful, all the best, lovely to meet you. That is Eric Phillips. He is the owner of Ice Trek Expeditions and Equipment. He's a polar explorer and he's an astronaut. He was one of the first humans on the Earth to get the North and South Pole four days in space with a couple of the crew members there from SpaceX. What an experience that would be. And herefore the nineteenth Australian Space Forum, which is presented by the Andy Thomas Space Foundation. So a couple of days here in Adelaide. If you're interested, I know there's a lot of people who love and are interested in the space. You can go to Australianspaceforum dot com dot au. So there's a number of events on today and tomorrow. It's our premiere annual space industry event. And good to know that South Australia leading the chart. 00:33:28 Speaker 4: Five double A afternoons with lee forests. 00:33:32 Speaker 2: A lot of people texting in about the OZ alert concerns on Monday. We'll get to those texts. Also, a lot of people having their say about space. Keep the calls and text messages coming through. We'll get to those as soon as we can. I do appreciate it. So let's go from Eric Whu as an inspirational individual getting to flit around the earth as very few have done before them, to another inspirational person, this one a little closer to home, a South Australian mum taking on Coast Trek. It's a fifty kilometer trek to give back to Beyond Blue and doing it having endured eight different surgeries. Georgie Mollison is an Adelaide mum who says that time in nature has been able to help her manage issues in her life, including chronic depression and those surgeries that I spoke of. And now, as I mentioned, she's doing Coast Trek Fleurio Peninsula's new challenge. She joins me, Georgie, lovely to have you on. 00:34:31 Speaker 10: Oh, thank you so much, good afternoon. 00:34:33 Speaker 2: Fifty K's is a long way, Georgie. 00:34:36 Speaker 10: It is, and it's a little bit more scary this year than it has been the past few times I've done it, but I'm going to give it a really good go. 00:34:47 Speaker 2: Well, you've had a rough twelve months. It's fair to say. You've had surgeries, you had the bow resection, you've got some fibrosis issues. Why did you want to do this on top of, you know, having lived with depression for a lot of your life. What was it about the Coast Trek that went right? I'm going to do this to yourself. 00:35:06 Speaker 10: It's so I've been an ambassador for Coast Trek Adelaide for the past eight years, so I've done every single Coast track over the past eight years here in Adelaide, and I just absolutely love every single thing about it. It's the camaraderie. It's a journey of getting fits, not just what you're doing on the day. It's been out in nature, being with your friends and also raising money for Beyond Blue, which is such an amazing cause. 00:35:37 Speaker 2: I mentioned you've had depression issues and you've battled with that. What have you found that nature does to you. What have you found that getting outside, fresh air, vitamin D, everything that goes with that has done for you personally. 00:35:51 Speaker 10: Discovering I guess hiking and being outside in nature have really has changed the way I focus on my mental health. I'm able to calm myself much better than anywhere else in any other environment. And I just find you feel that connection to nature and you feel so much smaller than these big world problems around you. So it's just that beautiful connection to people and nature. 00:36:21 Speaker 2: And have you found that's been central to your recovery. 00:36:25 Speaker 10: I really have that, and I do volunteer for Beyond Blue as well. So the link I have with Beyond Blue as part of their speaker program has just been imperative to my recovery. 00:36:38 Speaker 2: I saw, you're a qualified personal trainer. You're also a mother of two. So look a couple of surgeries. That's not going to stop you, is it, Georgie. You're made of stronger stuff. 00:36:49 Speaker 13: Yeah, I hope so. 00:36:50 Speaker 10: And I really this year wanted to get it out to people that you know, we're getting up to the last day for registration on the twenty sixth, and I think if I can do it this year, I think if anyone's out there thinking, oh my gosh, I'm that little bit scared it's it's different, it's something I haven't done before. I'm not sure if I'm fit enough. We've got three distances, we've got a twenty to thirty and a fifty, and there's such great support from Coast Track and Beyond Blue to get you through on the day and finishing is just the most amazing feeling. 00:37:25 Speaker 2: And yeah, I read to you know, they're saying you don't have to be an elite athlete to do this, do you? 00:37:32 Speaker 14: Absolutely not? 00:37:32 Speaker 10: And I am living proof of that. That's you know, I could be crawling by the end, but hopefully I'll still be going. Yeah, it's really you know, you have got such great support. As I said, we have love stops, so they're what we call our little stations where you go and you get food quite often their podietress. They're people who can message you, you know, and just the most amazing encouragement all the way from volunteers and the Coast Trek support team. 00:38:03 Speaker 2: Georgie Mollison is my guest Coast Trek Fluria Peninsula is on Friday, the fourth of September. The registrations close in five days time on

the twenty sixth of July and go to coastrek dot com dot au as Georgia mentioned twenty thirty and fifty kilometers and really for people, you'll start at Parsons Beach in Victor Harbor or Finishing Gooler and there's sections of the iconic heights and trail as well. I imagine it's a great chance Georgie for people to share stories and to talk about issues that they're going through, or help or camaraderie. It's all of that too. It's encouraging connection. 00:38:39 Speaker 10: It absolutely isn't and connection is also one of the things that really does help fight off mental health issues and some of the stories you hear. You chat to different people the whole way through events. You make great friends, but you also get to spend time with your teammates, which is time that you don't often get in our bus lives and outside in beautiful environments that you may not have the confidence to walk by yourself. 00:39:05 Speaker 2: Have you found that with the challenges and the battles that you've had because you are an ambassador for Beyond Blue and you speak about this, have you found that it's helped reduce stigma, maybe for yourself and for others that you talk to. 00:39:18 Speaker 10: Oh, it's actually quite remarkable. I've seen it over the eight years even that we've been doing this through Coast Track. Is these open conversation along the trail and you start talking to people who are just telling you what has happened in their life and how their mental health has been. And I just find it just so empowering to hear people willing and happy to talk about mental health because one of the biggest things we're fighting is stigma. 00:39:48 Speaker 2: Well, you're a great inspiration. I don't know how that sits with you on that. How are you feeling physically and mentally? I mean, as I say, you've had a tough twelve months after all the surgeries. Are you on the mend? Are you on the way back feeling better? 00:40:01 Speaker 10: I'm definitely feeling better. There's still there's still more to go. I'm actually in the hospital tomorrow for another little procedure. But I'm really adamant that this is what I'm doing this year, and I just can't wait to get out on the trail and meet everyone and get chatting. 00:40:21 Speaker 2: Well done, well your credit to you and your family and your friendship circle, Georgie. It's amazing. That's the kind of that's the kind of thing we need, don't we within the human spirit to push through these things and to get people together. You know, that's one of the things that lacks, I think in communities this day and age is that connection. So this is a great event to do it, have some fun along the way, and again it's not the Olympics, so you don't have to set record breaking times. Just get out, pick a distance that suits you and go. 00:40:46 Speaker 10: For it absolutely and have fun. 00:40:49 Speaker 2: Well done, Lovely to have you on, Georgia, good luck tomorrow and with the right Georgie Mollison is any ambassador for

Beyond Blue South Australian mum who's taking part in coast Trick, you can too. So it's Friday, the fourth of September. Distances twenty kilometers, thirty kilometers or fifty kilometers. If you would like to register, you need to do so before the twenty sixth of July, so you've got a couple of days coastrek dot com dot u slash events and if you would just like to donate and you want to help out Beyond Blue and the great work that they do, you can go to coastrek dot com dot you slash donate, remembering of course of Beyond Blue, dedicated to offering immediate quality mental health support via the phone, the email or the web. One three hundred double two four six three six. So get along Coast Trek. That would be a lot of fun, I'm sure, and push yourself to the limit, you know, in a way that you can, but also have that connection with people which would be terrific. Thank you, Georgie. Lovely to have you on. We'll get to the two o'clock news with Mel very shortly. On the other side, plenty to come, including talking travel with the team from Phil Hoffman Travel. Peter Williams will be here and we'll let you know how you can support a great charity here in South Australia that is helping rebuild the schools of Ukraine after all the issues that have gone on there so far. A couple of text messages before we get to our headlines, Kay says the talk about the alert and people in domestic violence needing to turn off their phones. It emphasizes the horrendous lives that some people endure. It's shocking and my heart breaks for them. Thank you, Kay, Yeah, I said to Madeline and to Amelia off here before. My great fear for this particular alarm system that will go off on Monday is that there may be women who don't know it and unfortunately may find out at one point thirty that all of a sudden, this is what they're hearing on their phones, maybe a phone or a device that is hidden from someone who is a domestic abuse perpetrator. That would be heartbreaking. So that's why we've got to spread the message and get as many people to know this as we can. Meredith said. The alert next Monday appears to be intrusive and even frightening to elderly and to those living alone. To achieve what well in the end, Meredith, it's about letting people know that if there is a local or a national disaster, the critical alert level will override the privacy settings in your phone. So you know, we've had situations where there have been people who've been affected by situations and communities affected and they're like nobody told us, nobody knew. Well, that won't happen anymore because this will override everything. Your phone will go off, you will know that there is a local or a national disaster. The problem is, I guess that there are some issues that come along with testing that to let people know exactly what it's about. So I think it's a good thing to have, but yeah, if you're unaware of it, you're in for a little bit of a shock. At one point thirty next Monday, and Bob text in saying Leith, that's a great segment regard adding domestic violence. As you know, I chat with Richard Pasco on the weekend, is Bob the murder man? More than six hundred murders that I have researched, thirty eight percent domestic violence related. In every case the mail was the perpetrator. Bob. It's a national disgrace and men like you and I and Richard and everyone else need to do more to help and to alert and to do what we can because that's on us, you know, to help out as well. So thank you for that. 00:44:27 Speaker 5: Bob. 00:44:27 Speaker 2: Back after the two o'clock New. 00:44:29 Speaker 4: Five double A Afternoons with Leaf Forest. 00:44:32 Speaker 2: Hello, Hello, nice to have your company on this Tuesday afternoon. Five minutes up the two tub. We've got a big show on the way continuing Turkey Tuesday your chance to win some amazing wines thanks to Turkey Flat Vineyards We've got the two hundred and fifty mil turkey flat wine cans, twenty four of them a mixed pack. We're talking the Rose, the Pinot, Grie and the Charaz Later in the show, we're after your turkeys. Have you done turkey like behavior? If you has someone else been a bit of a turkey? Barnaby Joyce has already nominated himself. All right, Barnaby, calm down. We'll talk about that later in the show, but get your nominations ready for that. We'll talk travel with the team from Phil Hoffman Travel. Peter Williams will be here this hour and just after three. If you're a fan of Lord of the Rings. 00:45:23 Speaker 15: Rush. 00:45:25 Speaker 2: Gollum from Lord of the Rings. The Great Andy Serkis is on the show today because he has a new film that he directed and also starting along with the likes of Glenn Close and Seth Rogan and so many others. It's the classic George Orwell Animal Farm, and it is in cinemas as of now, animated film. Perfect for the whole family to have conversations about that particular piece of literature and how it still applies to today. So Andy Serkis will join us after three o'clock and you'll be able to see him as well as hear him on the live stream on our Facebook and YouTube channel. We'll get to more of your calls and emails very shortly, but love the work that the Hurly group do. They are hosting a fundraising lunch coming up this Friday, the twenty fourth of July. It's all about supporting rebuilding schools Ukraine, and the lady who is behind that particular charity is the founder, Diane Howeth. She joins me this afternoon. Diane, lovely to have you on. Thank you for coming on. 00:46:26 Speaker 14: Oh, thank you very much for the invite. 00:46:28 Speaker 2: It sounds like a great afternoon and a lot of fun where some money will be raised for something very important. We'll get to the details of the lunch shortly, but first of all, can we talk about you and how this foundation that your created come about. 00:46:41 Speaker 14: Okay, I do have Ukrainian heritage, but I'm also a teacher forty eight forty five years experience in education,

and so when the invasion first started in twenty twenty two, I put my hand up to help our refugees here in Adelaide and teach them English, which I did for a couple of year and then when they were all settled, I thought, ah, the footage coming out of Ukraine was just horrendous. What could we do as South Australians to help the children there, And so we set up a fund to start rebuilding schools in Ukraine and with the support of Jenny Earley. Yes, it's moved along very well, well done. 00:47:19 Speaker 2: Well, it's amazing because you visited, didn't you with your husband? You went to one of the schools in Ukraine. 00:47:24 Speaker 14: Yes. In May this year we started rebuilding one one that the Russians actually occupied and used this one of their bases and just completely trashed it. So once they moved out, the Ukrainians reclaimed that area. We were able to get in and refurbish it from the inside and repair it all. And that's what we're currently doing. We went over to see the work, the progress and it was just heartreaching to see what they've done, but the efforts they're putting into redoing it, and it's not just for the kids, but the whole community came because we're providing them all with hope. 00:47:59 Speaker 2: Do you know it's so obviously it's in the news, Diane, and we know that this war has gone on far too long and continues to go on. And you hear about the death and the destruction, how devastating and shocking and tragic all of that is, you don't really hear or think about. I guess the education and the schooling that's caught up in this. I was reading one thousand, eight hundred education institutes have been damaged or destroyed, which leaves just under five million kids in Ukraine facing educational That's a generational issue, Diane. 00:48:31 Speaker 14: It is, it certainly is. It's just horrendous. I mean, most of the children are now doing their schooling in bomb sholders or online, you know, with a few hours a day, they're not getting the one to one the social contact which they all need as well. When we went in, actually my husband and I went into the zone where the school is, we actually took a comedian with us from Odessa to entertain the kids just for a couple of hours, to give them something to laugh about and enjoy a bit of a change for their day. And it was so moving for all of us. 00:49:03 Speaker 2: So you would be proud as an educator yourself though, the fact that schooling continues even during a war, whether it's in a bombshelter in their fifth year of full scale war. There they are. They're still getting their academia in. 00:49:16 Speaker 14: That's right, that's right. And the education of this, like you said, the next generation is so important. We don't want them to grow up and bitter and disengage with the world. We want them to be educated and you know, their history, their culture, etc. And that's what this is about. 00:49:32 Speaker 13: We can see the kids. 00:49:33 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's amazing work you're doing. We can see that the infrastructures damage. When you were talking to the kids and to the staff and those people in the community, what was the sense that you got from them. 00:49:43 Speaker 14: Ah, they were just so grateful, unbelievably grateful. The kids put on a little performance for us. They'd learned a little speech in English, just a few phrases each so they could say it to us. It was just beautiful and the teachers just couldn't stop hugging and years in their eyes. Thank you. Just the thought that some people from the other side of the world, from Australia cared enough to help them and support their community. It was amazing. 00:50:09 Speaker 2: And I guess the money that you've already raised, you see where that's going and how that's helping out too, and I guess the progress that's being. 00:50:16 Speaker 14: Made well, that was part of the reason we visited, to see what was happening and to actually get the physicalness of what was happening. It's one thing to have the emotional side, but to actually see and get feedback of where the funds are going and that it's all working really well. I mean the difficulty too, is getting workers because the men in those villages have all been deployed in some way some capacity, of course, and so the workers we've got are actually older people, men who might have some skills at holding a paintbrush or a ladder or can hammer some nails. And we've got a couple of young guys who've got disabilities, obvious disabilities that prohibit them from partaking in military. So they're still home in the village and they're just so proud to have a job and help rebuild their little village. 00:51:06 Speaker 2: It's amazing. Yeah, everyone pulls together. Did you and Grahame your husband feel safe when you were there? 00:51:10 Speaker 10: They? 00:51:11 Speaker 2: I guess they're used to it. It's an ongoing conflict. 00:51:14 Speaker 14: Yeah, we were safe because the people we went in with kept us safe. We went in with the guy who's the supervisor of the redevelopment of the region, and so we had to send all our detailed passports over beforehand to be able to get in. We spent the day before going through some military training, learning how to put the jackets on and the helmets and those sorts of things just in case. We were very lucky we didn't need just in case at that particular time. But it's all about safety and security as well, so we felt we were in good hand at that time. 00:51:49 Speaker 2: Well, it's a credit to you. I mean, it's amazing the work that you're doing. I'm speaking with Diane Howard. Diane and her husband Graham recently visited Ukraine. Diane created the Rebuilding School Ukraine charity, raising money for all of those kids that have been affected by this ongoing terrible war between Russia and Ukraine. How did Jenny Hurley get involved? What was are you friends, Diane? Or did she hear about your plot and think right, I want. 00:52:14 Speaker 14: A piece of the Oh

we're good friends. 00:52:16 Speaker 2: Now, she's lovely Jenny friends with everyone. 00:52:21 Speaker 14: That's right. Exactly when the invasion first started, Jenny put on a function at the Arkabar for as I said, the displaced people that were first here and I was there helping a group and she introduced herself and said, if you need any help with anything, let me know. So when I decided to set up this charity, the first person I contacted was Jenny and she helped me set it up as a ACNC registered. It's got DGR status from lawyers WRP lawyers came and helped did everything set that up. So it's a wonderful charity. Now do you have a a board of people who are amazing and Jenny's helped with so many functions and support in the background with this is our third function with Jenny Hurley that's coming up this week. We've had one before we launched at the Arkaba just over three two years ago and we had won the Marion last year as well, So this is our third one. 00:53:24 Speaker 2: Miss Jenny excellent Well people can take part in this and having known Jenny personally myself, I mean, super charitable family and couple two obviously with Peter the amazing work that they do giving back to communities and in your case the charity as well. So it's this coming Friday, isn't it the twenty fourth of July supporting rebuilding schools Ukraine. There'll be live auction, charity raffle entertainment and a three course lunch, premium drinks and all of the proceeds go towards the completion of the school. What's the name of the school, Diane, how do we pronounce that? 00:53:56 Speaker 14: Okay? 00:53:57 Speaker 4: It's ivan Ivka Ivanivka Okay, very good. 00:54:00 Speaker 14: And it's in the Kerosono blust near the Mikalay of border. 00:54:04 Speaker 2: Now you have some unique performances, and I know I've hosted the multicultural event in Victoria Square a couple of times, the Vola dance groups, So there's a number of Ukrainian dance groups here in Adelaie, aren't they And they're taking part with you on Friday. 00:54:17 Speaker 14: That's right, that's right. We have the d Bandura Ensemble plane, we have the Limco band Plane. And the highlight, of course is the volume dancers. They're just amazing. They just blow everyone away once they come out on stage. They're just sensational. So just to see them alone is worth the ticket. 00:54:35 Speaker 2: And to be fully immersed in all things Ukraine. Guests will be treated to a three course menu featuring Ukrainian inspired dishes beetroot and potato tart with caramelized onion. Diane correct sos dely smokes sour cream, pickled apple and walnut crumb, chicken kiev croquettes, whipped honey parfe and more. 00:54:59 Speaker 14: It's amazing. 00:55:00 Speaker 2: Need to get up and dance a sort of a burn all that off. 00:55:03 Speaker 14: Exactly, or get up and partake in some silent options big around bid. 00:55:08 Speaker 2: What do we need to know? Is the website the best place? Or do we contact the Arkaba? Diane?

00:55:13 Speaker 14: Either if you go to our website, which is www dot RSU dot org dot au, the first thing that comes up is links to our fundraising excellent. 00:55:26 Speaker 2: People can buy their tickets there, or if people aren't able to attend on Friday at the Arkaba, they can always donate too by going to RSU dot orgu backslash donate. Amazing work that you're doing, Diane, giving back it must give you great I mean all educators are givers. I guess you've had probably four decades of that being a teacher, but post your educational career, I better gives you great joy and warmth to be able to do what you're doing it. 00:55:52 Speaker 14: Certainly does, certainly does. Once you've got had a career as a giver, especially in education, your heart just goes out to children anywhere anytime. We know we need to look after our children and give them all the best opportunities they can have. 00:56:06 Speaker 2: That's what's about one hundred percent. I hope it's a great launch and lunch for you on Friday. Have a great time, Diane, Thanks. 00:56:12 Speaker 14: For your tom Thank you so much much appreciate it my pleasure. 00:56:16 Speaker 2: Diane Howarth, founder of Rebuilding Schools Ukraine, who along with Jenny Hurley am are managing director of the Hurly Hotel Group. They've got an event on Friday, folks, if you'd like to go, support the charity and support the children and the schools of Ukraine this Friday, the twenty fourth of July. Just go to RSU dot org dot au to buy tickets and find out more. 00:56:38 Speaker 4: Five double a Afternoons with Leith Forest. 00:56:42 Speaker 2: Twenty two minutes out to two on our tech zero douvil four eight zero eight thirteen ninety five. This one said, leaf Barnaby is not the Turkey. Lease sales is the Turkey for asking the stupid rude question. Did you not hear Barnaby telling her not to be rude? Says Sue, And foremost, Barnaby, is it to Turkey. You don't talk to a dog like this. That's not right. That's not going to get you the desired effect. So I think he's still Turkey. It wasn't Lee Sales, by the way, it was Sarah Ferguson. And yeah, Sarah Ferguson was pretty forthright telling Barnaby to stop worrying about the dog and answer the question. 00:57:17 Speaker 16: To apologize for this dog which has decided to bail up. 00:57:21 Speaker 3: Don't worry about the dog, just answer the question. 00:57:24 Speaker 4: Don't be rude. 00:57:25 Speaker 17: Don't be rude, otherwise this interview will come to a grinding. 00:57:30 Speaker 2: You know what Barnaby tells Sarah if she didn't stop that. So we'll do that after three point thirty Turkey Tuesday, thanks to Turkey Flat Vineyards. Brad Good afternoon, Hey Brad good, thank you? 00:57:46 Speaker 18: Hello? 00:57:47 Speaker 2: Hello Brad. Yeah, I've got you alloud and clear. What's happening? 00:57:51 Speaker 12: Hey? Just a quick one here we're away on always at the moment, we're halfway down the West Coast Way. 00:57:57 Speaker 2: Beautiful. 00:57:58 Speaker 12: Oh yeah, I thought, uh, what received an email a couple of weeks ago from the a Z Bank saying that we have to reverify our personal details. So she has gone ahead and done that, and then today or apparently yesterday was the cut off date and in another email, if it's not done by yesterday, we can't get into our bank account. So as of this morning, she brang up the am Z bank, was on the phone for an hour and a half and by the end of the conversation, sorry, we can't do anything about it, you know, blah blah blah. 00:58:43 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's not right. No, you're traveling, you can't get necessarily to a bank. That seems very short bread that they would do all of that so quickly. 00:58:54 Speaker 14: Yeah. 00:58:54 Speaker 12: Well, apparently the email got sent just over a couple of weeks ago and we were traveling along. We did the Good River, so we're in and out of range and blah blah blah. But in the meantime, what had done what they'd asked? Yep, there was no nothing from them, no phone call to say that, you know, we can't verify anything. We've been with them for bloody forty years. 00:59:18 Speaker 2: Of course. God, this is why people hate banks. Brad, all right, so we need to find someone that can help. So are you able to get any money out at all or no? 00:59:28 Speaker 12: No, not at the moment, dear. They've told us it could be twenty four to forty eight hours. So we're actually stuck in a not a bad spot, but we can't. We need to get back to Adelaide. Yeah course, and we need to be on the move and we can't actually go anywhere until we can access funds so we can move on to the next place or get fuel or anything. 00:59:52 Speaker 2: Yes, all right, let's channel out in our leon biner. We will try and find you someone who might be able to help. So it's ayan Z Bank, you're saying, yep, And you just need to be able to unluck your accounts because there's been a miscommunication when it comes to the paperwork. 01:00:08 Speaker 12: According to them, they have since I've initially rang you, Yes, well I rang you through a couple of hours ago and you've got back to me. They have saying now that they have received our email and it has been verified, but we still can't access any money. 01:00:29 Speaker 2: Yeah. So, I mean, luckily you're in paradise. At least you can enjoy that, Brad. But life goes on you can't not be without money for twenty four or forty eight hours. That's just not right. 01:00:39 Speaker 12: Yeah, and apparently the set of the only bank that's doing this. 01:00:44 Speaker 2: All right, So Brad leave it with us. The beauty of five double A is that there will be people listening right now who have experienced this kind of issue themselves, and they will know the best line of action for us. The other thing is you never know who's listening. There are people within banking institutions who listen to the show. There are people who work in sort of that ombudsman field who listen to the show. If anyone can help us

out and get Brad on the right track, the man needs his cash. He's got to be able to fill up the car and caravan and do whatever you need to do. Brad. We will try to help you out from here. So when I mean, you want it sooner rather than later, obviously because you've got to get back. 01:01:22 Speaker 12: Home exactly, mate, Well do I just approach the Barnaby attitude? 01:01:28 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right, Just tell him to sit down. We have a A and Z contact here that we're going to ring for you off air. Madeline, she loves this. She's like a dog with a bone. She's going to try and track this down for it. But in the meantime, anyone else that can help us out, Brad, we will. We've got your details now, we'll get back in touch and we'll try and get you back on the road as soon as we can. 01:01:47 Speaker 12: Appreciate that, mate, Thank you. 01:01:49 Speaker 2: Good luck, enjoy the holiday or what you can. All right, can you help us out? Eight double two to three double o double ow Has anyone had this before? Has anyone been locked out by the back? This is why people hate banks, because they're hard enough to deal with at the best of times, let alone when things are going pear shaped. I'm surprised Brad's wife was even able to speak to someone because most banks don't want you talking to them on the phone. Not always easy to send email. Not everyone who's on their computer religiously day after day when you're on holidays. That's why you're on holidays. All right. We'll try and help you out, Brad. We'll see what we can do. In the meantime. If anyone else can assist, please let us know. Bob the murder Man from wes crowdon before we get to headlines. 01:02:28 Speaker 12: Good a Bob, good day, Letham. 01:02:30 Speaker 19: Nice to hear you during. 01:02:31 Speaker 2: The daytime, you too, Thank you, thank you for calling in to that. I saw your text. I mean that they're horrific numbers, aren't they. With domestic violence? 01:02:39 Speaker 19: Very very bad. As I said, about thirty eight percent of all the murders that I've investigated are domestic violence related. All the perpetrators has been the father and all the husband. In an all ten the wife and children have been killed. In the other ten, one of the children or the wife has retaliated to protect themselves and kill their husband or father. 01:03:00 Speaker 2: You know what's interesting, Bob, every time we do domestic violence stories on the radio, there's one or two people in the audience who always say, what about women who abuse men? And look, no doubt that's an issue too, But it's not a competition. I don't know why we go down that path. It's like, let's just fix the problem as a whole, because clearly it's an issue, and you think how many people are affected by this Monday should they not know? 01:03:24 Speaker 19: Yeah, there are female perpetrators, but I haven't come across a murder in over one hundred years of doing research of where the female has been the domestic violence perpetrator who killed somebody. 01:03:35 Speaker 2: Yep. 01:03:37 Speaker 19: And just as another note, is the or the research that I'm doing, it's just not the research there. I have shared it with some agencies to do with domestic violence, Yes, so that they can get better funding and better services for domestic violence as well. 01:03:53 Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's what we need. And it's a national disgrace, isn't it. And I think I mean, good on you for bringing that to light. I said earlier. I think that's why men need to have this conversation. This is not a women only problem. Men need to speak to men that they work with, men and their family, men that they know, because the statistics speak for themselves. 01:04:13 Speaker 19: Great, and it's a problem that I do hope that we could get rid of it, but I honestly don't believe we'll go away soon. We will always have domestic volunteer and if we can do anything to bring it to the attention of others and to help people, yep. I'll continue to do this free session, continue to assist the different agencies that what might work. 01:04:35 Speaker 2: Yeah, well done. Good only by lovely to hear from you. We enjoy your work with Richard Pasco when he's on air, Bob the Murderman there from West Croydon. We're going to get to headlines. Andrew says, I'm with the A and Z bank. They'll never email you to verify details. It could be a scam. Email get them all the time from the ATO, the A and Z and the NAB. Malcolm had the same problem with the A and Z got in before the due date closed. Craig said, had the same thing with the bank. Though it was a scam, three hundred thousand dollars loan with them. Why would I need to confirm details? Apparently it wasn't a scam. After I walked into a branch and I asked, what's going on? I guess the issue is when you're camping and traveling around WA there may not be a bank that's close by. Adam says, this is why I've got money on a prepaid master card in case of emergencies. I hate banks. Christoph at Port Nolan said, I always carry cash. Leanne thinks that Sarah Ferguson's the rudest sourst person on TV, and Sue said, I hope you don't think that text was from me. It wasn't me. It's not Sue from Christie's No, No, we know it's you. So you're a good egg Barnaby. On the other hand, we're not sure. 01:05:40 Speaker 4: Five double A Afternoons with Lee Forest. 01:05:43 Speaker 2: Peter Williams is going to join us in just one minute to talk all things travel thanks to Phil Hoffman Travel. Robert Urbaniak, though, joins us every day at Hubbasto to tell us the latest on the weather. Robert, good afternoon, Good afternoon. How are we looking today on this Tuesday? 01:05:58 Speaker 15: Yeah, not bad with it today, honestly. So the big change in the weather really will come tomorrow. So from the sort of early morning, from at least around six am, there'll be showers and they'll sort of continue most of tomorrow and into Thursday as well. For the first half of Thursday, so you

could expect tween about one to perhaps about five or somulimeters over the two days, maybe up to ten in places. Then there'll be still a few showers Friday. So temperatures will come down from tomorrow and through the end of the week because it's a cold front that will come through. So about fifteen degrees tomorrow fourteen on Thursday, and I'll stay at fourteen degrees on Friday, it's a little bit cooler. Weather will definitely feel a bit more like winter. 01:06:48 Speaker 2: So yeah, a little bit cooler on a few showers over the next few days. 01:06:52 Speaker 15: Yeah, that's right, and by the weekend all have warmed up slightly about fifteen sixteen degrees, but I'm still the chance of a wide shower. 01:07:03 Speaker 2: Or too beautiful. 01:07:05 Speaker 15: Yeah, it's very much normal winter weather. 01:07:07 Speaker 2: That's it, stock Stan. We enjoyed that though, Robert, some of us love it, so thank you for That's still pretty warm in the city at seventeen zero point three degrees right now, it does feel like fifteen, but our overnight low is nine degrees. Robert, thank you for that time to talk travel. 01:07:22 Speaker 1: Thanks to Bill Hoffman Travel for over thirty years, creating moments you'll never forget. 01:07:27 Speaker 2: This is five double a travel Talkada Williams is here, lovely to see you, Welcome back. Thank you, Leth. That's great to be on it. Just remind me again, where did you go last time you and I spoke. 01:07:38 Speaker 16: Over to where the World Cup's has been one in Spain? Yes, so just missed the euphoria of the big win. But then did a cruise from Maligo through to Italy Rome. So yeah, beautiful four nights cruise, four nights in Spain. 01:07:52 Speaker 2: Imagine being in Spain David Pemberthy's style. When they actually win it. I mean they sort of had the sense that nobody scored against them all tournaments, even for the four weeks. I thought they're going to be at the pointing. 01:08:02 Speaker 16: Yeah, I heard the cross with the Boys in the morning with Dave and it was one o'clock in the morning. I believe he was sounding really chirpy. But yeah, what a fantastic experience to be on the ground when that's all happening. 01:08:16 Speaker 2: So yeah, I wonder if that does good for tourism. I imagine it would be because all of those countries that did well in the World Cup, a lot of people would be like, you know what, I'd like to go visit Norway. 01:08:25 Speaker 14: I like that. 01:08:26 Speaker 16: You obviously get the spikes at the time, but because of the pricing, it probably doesn't not the general tourist. But then we see all the images, right, and then people go, yeah, I want to go there, and so I think what it does, It gives a great legacy, and then people then over the next few years ago. Yeah, fantastic, you know, and we know what say the Olympics did for Sydney for example, in Australia. Well, you know, to the world, it really opened it up and it's going to all happen again. 01:08:50 Speaker 5:

So and so. 01:08:51 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Trumpy was happy with it. He once and again very soon like next year, the year after. That's not how it works. I don't think he's worked it out yet. Anyway, who knows, he might have, you know, to see the bars of Boston full of Scots and a great for US tourism, who, to be fair, could have done with it? 01:09:10 Speaker 16: Oh yeah, absolutely because the numbers have been a bit down to the US. And yeah, I believe the Scotts when they were I don't know where it was, I think it was Boston and they pretty well drank the town dry. 01:09:19 Speaker 2: I heard Matt Damon said the greatest story ever where there were so many Scots were in Boston drinking that a lady walked into a bottle. I bought a bottle of water and people boodha, because like, come on, go with the spirit. Peter Williams is here, Managing director CEO of phil Hopman Travel Angus McKay's going to join us a little later from Holland America Line and Seaborn. Hats some exciting news with Cathay Pacific, is there. 01:09:40 Speaker 16: Not fantastic news. Yeah, just announced again that they're going to come back for some seasonal flights. I get a little bit frustrated with the season floats, but let's go with it for the time being, and then we'll expand on a little bit. So Cathay Pacific their home bases obviously Hong Kong. They're going to come down starting flying x Adlaide on the tenth of November. They've got an extended season through to the twenty seventh of March, so they're going to be here for effectively five nearly six months, flying between three and five days a week. 01:10:09 Speaker 5: Really good service because it leaves. 01:10:11 Speaker 16: Around lunchtime, so it means you don't got to get up at the silly hour. So it leaves at twelve noon, arrives in Hong Kong around about six pm, and then connects through to just about anywhere in the world from that point. Similarly, overnight flight leaving Hong Kong at eleven thirty pm gets here at ten thirty am and you know, you can head home and have a bit of breakie or have a snooz or whatever you need to do. So that's really good what we're hoping. Like last year came in only for a couple of months. I think it was really only in that January February period, might have been a little bit in December. Now we've got five months now. The plan is if we support this, hopefully it'll be a year round service because Cathapecivik is a brilliant airline and it adds to the exceptional airlines that we already have here like the Singapore air Lines and the Katars, the Emirates, etc. Malaysia Airlines, So it'd be really good to have them here, you know, on a year round service. But this is where it starts, similar to the United Airline service the Adelaide San Francisco, which we've talked about on the show before as well. They're back for a seasonal service as well, and speaking to Adelaide Airport again, you know, if we support it, they're really keen to stay all year round. Yeah, so it's good.

These are kind of the way that the airlines do it now. They do a bit of a tester. If the market's good, they'll hang around. 01:11:21 Speaker 2: One of our callers are the other day. Is our airport big enough for all these flights coming in? 01:11:25 Speaker 16: Yeah, it is, because what they do is they space them out. Like in this arrival time at around about ten thirty in the morning is really good because you've got Singapore Airlines and Malaysia Airlines and some of the Chinese carriers. They're all coming in really early in the morning, somewhere between about six fifteen and about eight am, so it's spaced out where they'll land, you know, a couple of hours later. And similarly that departure time at twelve noon, most airlines have either left fairly early in the morning or we've then got the evening flights with the Middle East carriers like Emirates and Qatar. 01:11:53 Speaker 5: So this works really well. 01:11:55 Speaker 2: For the airport. Excellent. 01:11:56 Speaker 5: Plus there's a lot going on down the airport. I don't think you've been down there lately. 01:12:00 Speaker 2: Wow, when we did the variety radiothon. 01:12:02 Speaker 16: Probably yes, yep. So there's a massive wing. What's that on the beach side, so what's that the west west side, western side, and of course that mon't be open for a little while yet, but they're expanding and Mindsetting is about a fifty percent expansion on the footprint. 01:12:16 Speaker 2: So wow. 01:12:17 Speaker 16: Yeah, it's a really really big development that's going on down there. So it's really exciting to see all these new airlines come in and some of the established airlines increasing their services. 01:12:26 Speaker 2: But different to the old airport, just walking through that one sort of security zone and going to the do. 01:12:31 Speaker 5: You remember that on the right was there even security? I can't even remember, but. 01:12:35 Speaker 2: We felt like the Beatles were all walking out on the tarmac. We're like, how's the charm about that airport? We did just quickly before we get on too Club Mede you would have when you started. I imagine Hong Kong was like a sort of a destination that you just get off and then go to the next place, whereas now whether it's the racing or Disney or going. 01:12:53 Speaker 16: Yeah, yeah, it's a destination in its own right. You see a lot of families going up there, exactly what you're saying. You know that the Disney is always a huge action. I love Hong Kong. It's got that it's a great mix between the East and the West. It really has a great vibe it's got one of the most beautiful harbors in the world. You know, we're sport obviously with Sydney Harbor, but this is very different. It's a harbor that's full of activity. It's so exciting and then great food. You know, the girls like to do a bit of shopping here and there, but you know, I just think it's one of those places that deserves more than a transit. It deserves a few days. So if you are going

through to Europe, consider maybe you know, on the way home all the way over, maybe just beending to a three days and having a taste of it. 01:13:29 Speaker 2: Perfect and we can do that. Cathy Pacific out of Adelaide. Club med very popular and now there is a South African so this. 01:13:37 Speaker 16: Is so exciting and it's the first resort in the country and probably anywhere in the world. It's kind of a what we call dual location resort now Club meets. We know is all inclusive, so when you get there, great for families because you know, all the kids drinks are already included, Mum and Dad's drinks are included, all the food, so you know your budget well before you go. It works exceptionally well for those that are going skiing anywhere in the world. Club met is one of the first things that we look at. 01:14:03 Speaker 5: When a family is looking at skiing. It's exceptional value. 01:14:06 Speaker 16: But this is probably one of the first where they're combining a beach and a safari location together. And this is just out of Durban, so small drive out of Durban. And for those listeners out there that don't know where Durban is in South Africa, it's probably just due south of joe Burke and most of the flights are going to land in joe Burke and then it will probably be no more than a forty five minute flight then down to Durban, so really easy connection, which is great. And so what you've got is you're located on the beach, but you're also within the African Safari Park as well, so you've got this. 01:14:39 Speaker 5: Amazing game reserve that you've got access to. 01:14:41 Speaker 16: You go out, maybe do your game drives in the morning with the kids when everyone's a little bit tight and sketchy. You just get down the beach and go and have an ice cream and lay under an umbrella. 01:14:50 Speaker 2: So you can see the Big Five and then get on the beach. 01:14:52 Speaker 16: Yeah, and I just think you know, just having that one connected journey, it's going to be I think it's just going to be a real gem. There's got to be you know, a lot of families out there that go, look, I don't want to move around too much, but I want to see the Safari, but I also want a bit of relaxation. Well, here we're combining the two destinations in one then including absolutely everything, and you know, so I just think this is a master straight from Club Med. And what we're seeing from Club Med club Med compared to say back in the eighties and nineties to now, they have morphed into some really beautiful luxury resorts. Any of the older resorts have been refurbished, and the feedback we're getting is exceptional. I just had my nephew come back from Bintang, which is just off of Singapore. It's a short I think it's about a forty minute ferry ride from Singapore. It's actually on Indonesia, and they've just come back and said, Pete, he's got three young kids. I think they're nine, seven and three or something, and he just said it was heaven on Earth because mum and dad got to relax and the kids could just run wild, there was a pool, there was trapez ax, there was all sorts of things going on, and he said, you know, we had some family time together. Then the kids just went off and did their thing and they looked after and he said, you know, sitting around having a cocktail. 01:16:06 Speaker 2: On the pool. Patasca and I when we first started dating, went to Club med in Lindhaman, Ireland, Queensland, and there was a couple of takeaways from that. You're right, every day was like snorkeling, like it was everything. But the food was unbelievable. They had like we always talk about the bread. They had the biggest bread men you have ever seen, which was amazing. And then you're right, then you could learn how to do trapeze. 01:16:25 Speaker 5: They had Peace School, didn't they They had there's. 01:16:28 Speaker 2: One of doing all these fun things. You're surfing, you windsurfing, you're snorkling, and then they're like, all right, who wants to learn trapeze? Okay, but yeah, great for our family or even young couples that want to go and experience something. 01:16:41 Speaker 16: Absolutely, And this one in South Africa has wellness facilities, it's got multiple sports facilities, two restaurants. I like cart restaurants, buffet restaurants as well, and then you've got five bars, you know for the adults and you know the kids club for all ages. 01:16:56 Speaker 5: So you know what a great combination. 01:16:58 Speaker 2: Go and check it out Club Meds South Africa. You can ask about it at Phil Hoffman Travel. Time to talk to our special guest. Angus McKay is from Holland America Line and Seaborn. He is the strategic accounts manager. He joins us this afternoon. Great to have you on, Angus. 01:17:14 Speaker 13: Fantastic to be here. Lee's and Peter nice to see Angus. 01:17:17 Speaker 5: Nice to hear from you, mate. I haven't caught up with you for a couple of months. You're doing well, Yeah. 01:17:21 Speaker 13: Doing well. We missed each other last Someone's down, but everything's good. 01:17:25 Speaker 5: Thank you very much, fantastic. Just for the listeners out there, mate, you look after. 01:17:29 Speaker 16: Two brands, Holland America, which we've spoken about a lot on this program, but also the luxury brand of Seaborn. Just for the listen's sake, could you maybe just tell us a little bit about the two brands. 01:17:41 Speaker 13: Yeah, So, Holland America Line so is a Dutch heritage of course, and we basically the cruise around the world. We have the ships come down here in the warmer months in Australia as well. We've got a Nord I'm coming down for the twenty six twenty seven season, and we've got Westerdine coming down in the twenty seven to twenty eighth season. All of our ships easy, they all ending the damn word, so they used to be called those damn ships. But you know, we've got eleven ships across the fleet on the high in America side. They're mid sized ships. We like to think of them as perfectly

sized ships. Fourteen hundred guests through the twenty six hundred guests and yeah, that's exciting what they bring on board. There's everything from publicly called destination dining, which is we source ingredients from around the globe from over sixty ports, and what we do is we design menus to reflect the destination, bring in regional favorites on board. We work with Iron Chef, Moromoto Chef program. We've got our Global fresh Fish Program, which is a bit of a mouthful of fame, and there's eighty varieties of seafood that we're sourcing. So we're prought to play under forty eight hours with that, and we're trible certified the sustainable sourcing of rto there port. 01:19:07 Speaker 16: To play for forty eight hours. That's amazing, So freshness guaranteed, Angus. The last time I was on Home America was a couple of years ago in the Mediterrane. I know, we'll talk about the Mediterranean later. But one of the things that was relatively new on your ships, I think it was, you know, probably started in maybe around twenty nineteen, was I think it was on Deck five. You correct me if I'm wrong, But they basically had all these live music venues, and for me it was like I went to a music festival. I was going from dueling pianos to rock to string quartets, and you know, you'd go from room to room and it was just like wow, it was like a whole night out just listening to all different music. 01:19:45 Speaker 13: Oh absolutely, yeah. So it's interesting we've got different ship classes. Of course, it's put me all ships for different classes, so the end of time of changes. But yeah, the pinnacule class ships has got the beauty of having those three areas all in the central where you've got BB King's Blues Class, Rolling Stone lounge billboard on board, which is where you're dueling. Pianos are on the other ships. We have the piano bars and we bring rolling stones and essences of bb Kings on as well. But yeah, it's so much fun because you actually go from sort of one show to the but you feel like, as you say, you might spend a little mini music festival on board of the evening unfolds full lot of fun. 01:20:25 Speaker 16: I remember sitting there in bb Kings and just listening to the fantastic music, and I remember what I was drinking. 01:20:30 Speaker 5: I was drinking a. 01:20:31 Speaker 16: Nice negrony with a big rock of ice on it, and I just thought, you know, I could be anywhere in the world yet I was actually cruising in the Mediterranean, going from one port to another. And that's what I love about cruising, right, you can escape when you're on board, but the next morning you wake up when you're a brand new port. 01:20:48 Speaker 13: Oh absolutely, and that's the beauty, especially places like the med You know, you'll jump from one port to the other and in the evening you're back on board enjoying yourself. You know, the dining options we've said there, and then entertainment. You know, you get a little bit tired after all that action, go to bed

and you wake up in the morning. You're in a whole new port and you get to explore the stuff for sure, which is which is incredible. 01:21:11 Speaker 2: Angus, I reckon last time we spoke to you. Your Alaska program is super popular, isn't it. 01:21:16 Speaker 13: Oh yeah, we're actually celebrating eighty years in Alaska in twenty twenty seven. So we were the first ones to sort of pioneer cruising in Alaska. Holand America Line. Yeah, and you know we've we're investing heavily in it, and you know we're expertise there is amazing. You know, we're fortunate because of that long standing relationship. You know, the Glacier Bays obviously a lot of people want to tick that one off. We've got the Glacier Bay National Park Ranges come on board and run commentary while we're up in that area. You know, we get more permits than any other cruise line and in the other ports that we're visiting as well. You know, we've got sort of some priority birthing. So that's that's great for guest convenience. That we like to think that we get the best berthing when you get into some of these wonderful ports along the way. The one thing that's really grown in popularity there is course people want to see glacier action, of course, and they want to see sea life and that the wildlife they also want to see. And you know, you can take a choice whether you just do a cruise round trip and see out of Vancouver or Seattle, or do one of these wonderful cruise tours, which I thoroughly recommend. My wife and I did it in August last year. And if you actually do the cruise tour, we're taking you via the rail with the dome rail car. You've got your restaurant underneath, you've got an expert providing commentary and telling you when the best time to get your camera out is. You can stand on the like the kaboos type things standing on the back out in the open area, have one hundred meter high bridges and you're on your way to d Nali and that place is really next level. We've got our Whigh of America d Nali Lodge up there, and I recommend listen if you're going to go up there. There are some tours that you can do that's just one night in a Nali that I would recommend doing too, with three nights up there. The reason being is then you get that tundra of wilderness tour and that's where it looks a bit like an old American school bus. But you jump on this thing and they take you out into the heart of the Nali National Park. And this is where it gets really special because if you want to tick the wildlife yea box while you're up there in Alaska, this is one of your best opportunities. 01:23:30 Speaker 16: You know. 01:23:30 Speaker 13: We had a mother better and two cubs basically come up to the door of the bus on the road. It came down from where we could see them up beside on the road, and then they came down and they basically almost trying to knock on the door to come in, and those who were let them in. I can do that right now. But we saw caribou and all your doll sheep and it's really

incredible. And then you get back to your lodge and we're actually spent or in the throws of spending seventy million U were dollars in the lodge there. We've got a whole improvements onto of course, accommodations, but the public areas, the restaurants, the lobby area, the coffee shop, castles in the outdoor area there, and then we're having a whole new building in as well for adding more swees because we've seen a big increase in the people wanting to upgrade the sweet category and it's an amazing thing to do. 01:24:27 Speaker 16: I think you're right, Angus, And just for the listeners out there, just to clarify, so there's two options cruising through Alaska with Thailand. 01:24:35 Speaker 5: America and I love them both. 01:24:38 Speaker 16: You can do the round trip from Vancouver, or you can do effectively a one way over seven nights as well, effectively from Vancouver up to the northern part of Alaska, taking in Anchorage and then going on through as you said, doing the rail and then staying into Nari National Park, and then if you want, you can continue which you have some amazing tours that go all the way through the Yukon and we're finding that becoming more and more popular every year. Initially pretty where everyone was doing that kind of doing the Rockies and the round trip out of Vancouver, the round cruise. Now we're seeing a lot more people head north and experiencing that northern part of Alaska which a lot of people just haven't been going and not getting to. It's a little bit more remote, and that's what I love about it because the wildlife, the chance I've seen the wildlife further north, is far better than just through the Rockies because it's no as heavily forested. 01:25:27 Speaker 5: It is more that tundra. 01:25:29 Speaker 16: And then when you do that, as you said that, it's a bit like doing an African safari, isn't You get out on that school bus and you head out into the wilderness and then that's where you see your bears and the dale shape and the elk and things like that. So yeah, I think it's absolutely fantastic. 01:25:42 Speaker 13: Yeah, and the Yukon's amazing. My wife and I we did that Yukon area as well, going out to Dorsal City, and this is really like stepping back into the Pondike gold Rush. Loom bars and cagan dancers and colorful buildings. They don't even put any tar on. The road is out there because of the perma Fross book Satara heats up and the road start to collapse because of these and so it's really wild, and you know, I always made the joke. You see the wildlife of the human kind out there, interesting characters, and it's a whole heap of fun. It's a really cool place to go. 01:26:17 Speaker 2: The whole world's covered, though, isn't it. It is, as they do everywhere from Asia through New Zealand. 01:26:22 Speaker 16: Yeah, absolutely, and the med We were talking about it before, and Europe is always so popular. 01:26:27 Speaker 5: It's one of our biggest sellers. 01:26:28 Speaker 16: And one of the things that I note with Holland America now is you're actually doing year round itineries in Europe, and this is becoming quite popular to go in what we call someone called the quiet season. We all know that the Mediterranean is most popular between so May and September. That's when it's nice and warm, and you know, people you know have images of the Mediterranean a thirty degrees, you know, having you know, a cocktail out in the balcony, et cetera. But what is proving much more popular these as well, sorry, growing in popularity is traveling a little bit in those cooler seasons when as less crowds. 01:27:01 Speaker 13: Yeah, we've seen a real trend to allards that as well. It's sort of out of that July August into the shoulders. But we have announced cruises from sort of October twenty seven through to March twenty twenty eight, which means that it gives us that what you call the year round program up there, we've got extended stays and overnights, taking advantage of evenings ashore. I mean, people want to do things like the Christmas markets and Nordic traditions, and we're getting up into the Arctics. 01:27:29 Speaker 5: So you've seen the Northern lights as well certain times, is. 01:27:32 Speaker 13: Yeah, because in the height of summer it's rare to see. We're very fortunate when we're in Dawson City in August to see it, but that's very early. Normally you're looking at September onwards. So this is a prime opportunity, yeah, to get up and you get something really special. And you know when people are up there, you know they want to be ashore in the evenings as well, because that's when the beautiful light from a bit of snow around and maybe a nice warm blue vine or something to warm the copples is you experience all this wonderful stuff and as you say, less crowds as well at that time of year. 01:28:10 Speaker 16: In Christmas markets, you mentioned it just then. It is so popular. People love going over to Europe for the christ like Europe and you know also North America leath. 01:28:20 Speaker 5: You know, they do it so well with the lights. 01:28:22 Speaker 2: And the market films like Christmas. 01:28:24 Speaker 16: It really feels like Christmas because it's cold, you rug up, you put your beanie and your scarf on. And Europe and North America just do it better than anywhere anywhere else now to be able to cruise around and without unpacking every day and packing again. This way, you're just going to go into some of these fantastic ports where the Christmas markets are in the old town square. 01:28:41 Speaker 5: You're going to enjoy it. Then you get back on the nice warm ship and your head off the next day. 01:28:46 Speaker 2: Yeah, less crowds, do I imagine? 01:28:49 Speaker 16: Yeah, less crowds and a really different experience to the summer holiday anger. 01:28:54 Speaker 5: The other thing too, now, you know, with. 01:28:56 Speaker 16: Whole America with so many ships now you're traveling all around the world. So one of the

areas that has just gone crazy for US is Japan, and I know you do some amazing itineries, especially through that cherry bossom season which is really popular, but you have longer seasons as well. Tell us a little bit about your programs up in Japan and through Asia. 01:29:14 Speaker 13: Yeah, so the programs through there, We've got I've got Western Arm that's that's going to be doing the next season in Asia, so a little later this year and into sort of April early May twenty twenty seven. And then you know later in the year we'll have nord Arm which will be coming in mid September and doing a similar type of program. 01:29:40 Speaker 4: Yeah. 01:29:40 Speaker 13: Listen, there's some everything from seven to thirty five nights. There's Japan is, as you say, one of the most popular ones. People want to see the cherry blossoms or you know, the plum bossoms at the other shoulder season. So yeah, we've seen a big spike in that, you know, over the last couple of years, and people wanting to stay a little bit closer to home. Is fine, it's perfect for then. We're very fortunate, you know, there's a lot of ways where it takes us a long time to get to the other side of the world, but we're very fortunate with the likes of the Asia and the other one that's increased in popularity is the stuff that's really close to home. The Australia and New Zealand stuff as well in New Zealand round trips and one. 01:30:26 Speaker 16: Ways, and you've you've got the Nordam down here for the season coming up twenty six twenty seven. Then the West of the m will be coming down via Asia in twenty seven twenty eight. And you've got which I always love and they're always popular, is actually doing a circumnavigation of. 01:30:41 Speaker 5: Australia, which works really well. 01:30:42 Speaker 16: Then we've got cruises over to New Zealand a bit of the South Pacific, so you know, you've got a great combination. 01:30:47 Speaker 5: They're close to. 01:30:47 Speaker 16: Home and what we often find Angus is people are trying a cruising, maybe even for the first time, close to home, and they fall in love with it, and that's when they look then further afield, whether it's Asia or then onto Europe or or Alaska. You're hearing that as a bit of a trend. 01:31:03 Speaker 13: Yeah, absolutely. I mean it's always been the way that people probably want to dip their toe on the water with a cruising. I mean I was the same myself. You know when somebody first said, oh do you want to bother cruise? I'm like, I don't know what A bit like you know, we're not gonna have enough to do, and it's nothing to you physically do it. You realize that, oh my goodness, what have I been missing? You know, like it's just a it's a great way to get around. It's a different type of holiday because you are going from one port to the other and you're stamping. But this is why we've started introducing sort of extended stays and overnights as well in a lot of ports, is just to lead to immerse a little bit more,

and that's been working very very well. The other one that is really jumping out of its skin at the moment is South America. We've actually had to change our ship in South America for the twenty twenty seven twenty eight season. We've got Oosterdam over there. It's got double o st it's a mouthfuls oaster Dam like toaster as they say. But we've actually increased the capacity, so we're increasing by about two hundred guests per departure by having New Amsterdam there because it's just become so popular so South America and tied to get Chile in Fiords in Panama Canal. That's the other one that's really been growing and popularity in the last couple of seasons. 01:32:19 Speaker 2: Angus, good to have you on. Thank you. There's lots going on. We just got to decide where to go. That's why we go see the table pH time. 01:32:26 Speaker 13: To talk about sell and that's another conversation. 01:32:28 Speaker 2: Get you back on good on youngis fantasy. 01:32:31 Speaker 13: Thank you for your time. 01:32:32 Speaker 2: Holland America and Seaborne. That's Angus McKay. So yeah, So go into PhD, go and speak to one of the staff, get their expert advice. Destinations. How you doing it, whether you're a group, single couple, whatever you're doing. Choice is yours. There's a lot to go. 01:32:46 Speaker 16: There is, there is and the Seaborne brand that we didn't get time to talk about is their luxury brand and it's very much a small, intimate experience and that one of the things I did this in the med probably only two years ago. Gets a lot of the ports that some of the medium to larger ships can't get to. I hadn't even heard of some of these ports. And you know you're rather than using ten as whatever, you're right in the heart of it and you walk right into the town square. 01:33:06 Speaker 5: It's absolutely fantastic. 01:33:08 Speaker 2: Sally who works for you. The first time I ever went on a ship was one of the dams here in Adelaide about a harbor, just went for lunch. He said, come and have a look. I'll show you and it was amazing. You don't even have to go out before you fall in love with cruising. Sometimes you can be birth and still love it. 01:33:21 Speaker 5: So absolutely no, it's fantastic. 01:33:23 Speaker 2: Before we let you get out of here, there is a couple of events coming up close the first week of August. You've got Viking Cruises ten am on Thursday, the sixth of August at Port Elliott. You've got six pm on the same day the Thursday, that's at the Skydeck at Glen Elk, so people can explore the world with Viking. 01:33:39 Speaker 16: Yeah, beautiful cruise line, luxury cruise line, no kids, no casinos, so it's I you don't be bothered with the families, and you don't like a flatter, this is the one for you. Beautiful scan and aving design. We just love the Viking brand. It does exceptionally well and they've got ships all around the world. So come down and have a chat to us, and if you really keen, come down and Port Elliott or Glenelg and it's

what Thursday six of August. We've got experts coming over from Sydney to present and we'll have some exclusive deals there as well. 01:34:11 Speaker 2: Well done. Everything you heard on the show today you can find out more at PHT dot com, dot you or Glenelg, Nord Modbury, Hyde Park, semifourth Sterling, Victor, the Barossa Gaula and the corporate team as well. Lovely to see you, welcome back. 01:34:23 Speaker 16: And fantastic and our phones open for the next thirty minutes. 01:34:28 Speaker 5: Yes at PhD. 01:34:30 Speaker 2: Thank you for reminding me. The live stream. The live streams coming up after three like the travel lounge, Yes until half us three, So people call eight double two three, double A double five anything discussed or anywhere. 01:34:40 Speaker 5: You want to go in the world. Yep, give us a buzz. 01:34:42 Speaker 2: Thank you, great to see you, Thanks for doing my job. Peter Williams PhD. 01:34:46 Speaker 4: Five double A afternoons with Leif. 01:34:48 Speaker 2: Forest, Welcome welcome, five double A afternoons, six minutes after three on this Tuesday, the twenty first day of July. Last hour of the show and a big hour on the way Turkey Tuesday thanks to Turkey Flat Vineyards is coming up very surely your chance to win a Minx twenty four pack of the two fifty mil Turkey flat wine cans, the rose, the Pinot Gris and the chiraz Grenash. It's vibrant, it's refreshing. It's what makes the rose a favorite. Strawberries, floral undertones and a crisp finish you can enjoy responsibly. That'll be a little bit of fun with our turkey Tuesday. Who has been the turkey I've suggested Barnaby Joyce. All right, Barnaby. Somebody not happy with that though. Lou on the text said Leaf, you are a bias soy boy, labor wanker, no better than the lady on seven thirty last night. Labor has completely ruined this country in the last four years. You never criticize their policies, which have caused inflation, high interest rates, high electricity and the housing crisis. Sad to see people in the media hate this country so much. Wow, thank you lou All. I'm saying, lou Is, I don't think Barnaby should talk to his dog like that. I didn't say anything about labor, or about one nation or the lips for that matter. I just don't think that's appropriate behavior. That's what Turkey Tuesday is all about. Thank you, lou eight double two three double O double O or text if you'd like to join us. Big hour on the way. So we've got Turkey Tuesday. We're also going to catch up with any Circus now, any Circus if you remember, and you loved Lord of the Rings play Gollum Rush, and he's been in a heap of other things including Planet of the Apes and Batman and so many other films. He's going to join us. His new film is out now, it's in cinemas now. It's called Animal Farm from the George all Well book. It's an animated version of that particular film. So he will join us this hour as well. Plus we've got time for your calls, emails and sms. Eight double two three double O double Oh. Graham and Henley B. Chullo. 01:36:50 Speaker 20: Graham, Graham your residence Space Nut. 01:36:56 Speaker 2: Yes you too? Are you excited the fact that we've got our big space event on in Adelaie today and tomorrow? 01:37:00 Speaker 21: Yeah, I'm going. 01:37:01 Speaker 20: I'm going tomorrow. Excellent, be fantastic, buddy. It was interesting I was listening to Graham Goodings so this morning, and he did bring up the fact that it's the anniversary of the Moon landing, and of course whenever it comes up, the conspiracy people come out of their holes. So and he had I think he had three or four text messages saying we didn't land on the Moon. I think one guy rang up and said we didn't land on the Moon. And as a kid, my late father was a radio technician and I can only barely remember because I was very very young, property six or seven years old at the time. We went to Canberra, and we went to Canberra for the specific reasoning. He got a job helping to upgrade the park's telescope. 01:37:55 Speaker 10: The. 01:37:56 Speaker 20: Dish here from the Dish, Yeah, the original dish so alation with that movie because of my like well actually worked on that that telescope. So the Yanks pay to upgrade it. So because at the time when they landed, the Sudden hemisphere was the only place that could receive signals the first two or three hours of them leaving the leaving the space vehicle on the Moon, and it was I think it was Park's Chippin' Biller and Canard and they were all upgrade. The Yanks pay for the whole lot. And if you think about it, the tax dollars for the Yanks at the time, I think for every American taxpayer, almost half of a dollar was put into the Moon mission. It was a massive expense, huge expense, nothing you'd oviously again. I wouldn't imagine. And that explains why we haven't gone back there again because of the expense. 01:38:56 Speaker 2: A lot of people say that done. They oh, why don't we go back, Why do we do it all these years ago? But not again? Because it's just so unaffordable. More and more is on the ways, you know, Graham being a space enthusiast yourself, But I think the fact that we've got our Space Forum here in Adelaide, the Andy Thomas Space Foundation, getting all the big guns, people from NASA, people from the US government, defense, We've got astronauts, space agency types from all around the world here in Adelaide for two days. And it was great to have Eric Phillips, you know, he's a polar explorer an astronaut himself, to come on the show. So it just shows you that in this country and maybe around the world, we're becoming a place that is known as being on the forefront of these kind of issues when it comes to space and defense. So well, we're checking out. I'd love to hear how you go to morrow, Graham. What's your thought of that, because it's quite the cool. I think to have it in Adelaide over the next couple of days. I appreciate the call Andrews said before the break. For non believers. There were

six crude moon landings, Apollo eleven and sixty nine seventeen in seventy two to Cruiz per landing. Still some items on the Moon that are visible been photograp such as rover tracks and astronaut footpaths, shadows cast by hardware and more. Paul was watching the moon landing when he was getting a hernia operation in the Legacy ward at the Repat at Dows Park. They looked after US Australia's critical systems. For those who don't quite understand the ward. After the operation, I remember it was commenced by soldiers. Got me out of bed past my matron. I actually sat under a blanket between two stumpy legs of soldiers from Vietnam while we were watching the black and white television. There you go, Paul, nice memories of the moon landing. There you can join us eight double two to three double O, double O or text. It's thirteen after three A short break and Hollywood Great Andy Circus, next. 01:40:45 Speaker 4: Five double A Afternoons with Lee Forest. 01:40:49 Speaker 2: So what a career. My next guest, Andy Serkis, has had from Gollum in Lord of the Rings to Planet of the Apes and King Kong and Star Wars and Tintin, Batman Friend Chies and now some of his best work in Animal Farm. He is the star or one of the stars, and he's the director of this, a new adaptation of the classic. It is in cinemas now. He joins me, Andy Serkis, lovely to see you. Andy, Congratulations on the film. 01:41:16 Speaker 7: Thanks y, I'm thrilled that you've seen it all the big screen. That's amazing. 01:41:19 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, it's a credit to you. And it's staggering how in nineteen forty five a book that was written then is still relevant and reflective of twenty twenty six. 01:41:30 Speaker 7: Absolutely, I mean, that is the incredible thing about all Well's writing and how prescient he was. I mean, of course he was when he wrote. I mean I read the book when I was about eleven, I think, or twelve, and I didn't fully understand the political connotations. But then when I reread it when I was older, and of course I knew that it was about the collapse of the Russian Revolution and Stalinism and totalitarianism, and each character represented a specific leader at the time, glueding Stalin, you know, to try and make it for today's audience. And we talked very closely with the with the or well A State about this, you know. We we just figured that, you know, we what would his political targets be now? Because power and oppression and the misuse of and the destruction of truth is still very present, and if if not more so now, I mean in the way that people are manipulated and that leaders have stopped listening to people they are supposed to be treating with dignity and care. So so it felt one that we wanted to, you know, all Well wrote a book for young minds, for young you know, for young people to grapple with dark and difficult subjects. And we just thought, well, if ye know, what would what would his political targets be now? And so so so he wants to make it relevant and speak to a world that they would understand and and most importantly, we wanted to make a film that young people, really young people sort of from the age of five or six, could quite happily sit and watch a film with their parents and grandparents. And I think that's what we've done. And yet it still still contains all of the messages that all was talking about. Without Without we've taken out some of the graphic violence which is in the book. It does get very sort of very violent in the book, but we've sort of implied that darkness and violence underneath a layer of you know, humor and comedy, so that you get it, but you're not. It's not, you know, violent in the in the it's implied. 01:43:44 Speaker 2: I love how much this means to you, Andy, I know I heard you talk about it's been fifteen years or so. This has been a passion project for you. I love that you're so invested with the estate, you're making sure that you're doing it right. It's the third adaptation of the book, like the fifty four animation, the ninety nine live version, now yours now. And I love that that you've made this film the way you want to make it, because you're right, it's for a modern day audience. 01:44:10 Speaker 7: Absolutely. I mean, we just thought there's that, there's you know, and both of those versions that you've spoken about, you know, they're very powerful films, but there is that we live in it. We live in a world now where the sort of the villains of smiling villains very much and they're not. They don't show themselves. They hide behind glitz and glamour and ai and fakery and control and they control there the people that they're again they're supposed to be listening to in a much more subtle and entertaining way, let's call it. And so and that that was something that we really wanted to to bring in this so. So Napoleon isn't isn't the kind of gruff, silent, brooding, you know, dictator. He is someone who makes everyone think he's the most amazing leader and and everyone love him and think he's very funny and entertaining, and yet he's corrupting everybody. And and particularly one of the ways that we wanted to get into the story was making it accessible through a younger protagonist. This character Lucky, who is a pig a piglet who from that from the from the when we meet him at the beginning, is best friends with box of the shire Horse and his friends with all of the other animals. But very quickly he's manipulated into thinking that Napoleon is right and and and that Pig should be more important, and therefore this big divide happens, and very similar to the book. But but we wanted the audience to go through that experience, the young members of the audience to go through that experience of feeling corrupted, not really understanding that they're being corrupted, and until until it gets to a point where he he loses his best friend because he doesn't he's not able to look out for him anymore. So those are the sorts of choices that we made, I think, to

try and to speak to kids. 01:46:13 Speaker 2: Now you have, arguably Andy the most stellar voiceover cast I've ever seen in a movie, too, yourself, Seth Rogan, Steve as Shemi, Glen Close, Laverne Cox, Kieran Colkan, Woody Harris, and Jim Parsons Kathleen to That's just naming a few. I'm watching the film and listening to the film thinking, I wonder if the characters help you pick the actor, Like, is it the charisma of Napoleon that attracts you to Seth or the whole box of the horse and Woody Harrelson. I'm going, well, wood he's kind and he's mild and he's wise much like the character. 01:46:49 Speaker 7: Absolutely. I mean you sort of you hear the voice, you know, when we were writing the script and Nick Stoller, who is just an awesome screenwriter, you know, he he really got what we were trying to do and so and so, and he'd worked with Seth Seth quite a lot. And in fact, Seth was one of the first three actors Jim Jim Parsons, Glenn Close and Seth We asked about eleven eleven years ago I think it was, and they all said yes, they wanted to be part of it, and they and they stuck with it even though it's taken this long to make, because of their love for the book and and their you know, desire to play those characters. 01:47:33 Speaker 2: I spoke, I couldn't help watch the film as well, thinking this is a great film for kids to watch with their parents and their grandparents, and then they'll have conversations on the end of it. Who are the pigs in today's world? Who is Missus Pilkington played by Glenn Close, who is that because those people exist in current day life and current day politics. 01:47:53 Speaker 7: Absolutely. I mean, well, you know, in the world, in the world of big business, we know who. We know who the billionaires are, who who exploit we we know who, we know who leaders are around the world who exploit and oppress their people using various different forms of technology and control and surveillance and entertainment and and making that everyone think they're your your best friend, and that they're doing the best of the country. You know that we we recognized leaders. And I have to say this wasn't We didn't set out to as all, well, did you know, say this specifically is about Stalin or you know or you know or any of the modern leaders of today. We weren't making a partisan film because because oppression works in so many different ways and and and so we weren't sort of pointing our fingers at one particular regime or or or or sort of center of power if you like. And it was it was. But but the themes of of like you say, of control and misinformation and disinformation, they're all there, and they were all They're always there. 01:49:09 Speaker 2: It's so present too today. And I don't want to give away the film. Albeit people know the story, but the song that you use in the end credits was like the biggest kick in the face on the way out going andy, Like that's it even drills at home even more, like you know you're following along.

That's just a perfect full stop for you. 01:49:28 Speaker 7: I mean, that's that's why. And that's the other thing about our movie is is that we wanted unlike the book, which which is basically two acts, it doesn't have a third act, and it ends very bleakly with all that. You know, the animals outside the window of the farmhouse and they look in and they look from peak to man and man to pig, and they can't tell the difference. And there is no hope in that at the end of that book. But we felt obliged to at least without without sort of creating an an overly happy ending, which is certainly isn't. At least it asked the question, well, kids, you know yours will be the next time It'll be down to you. What are you going to do to make it better next time round so that history doesn't repeat itself. 01:50:12 Speaker 2: I thought it was terrific and now I want to watch it with my kids and have the conversations on the back of it with my kids. So congratulations to you on that Animal Farm is in cinemas folks right now. It would be remissing me not to ask one question because you're in New Zealand, you're across the ditch, you're directing. Is this the Lord of the Rings, the Hunt for Gollum? That's what did now for. 01:50:32 Speaker 7: That is exactly what I'm here for. Yeah, and I can't talk too much about it, but I just want to say that it is wonderful being back in a country that I love, and twenty five years twenty six years later, a lot of the same crew are back, you know, people who made the first films, and it is like coming home in a way. 01:50:50 Speaker 2: So well, I hope there are Pinky bars there in catering, or buzz bars or Lemon and Piroa, all the good New Zealand stuff. I hope it's all there for you. 01:50:59 Speaker 22: Absolutely. 01:51:01 Speaker 2: Animal Fun is in cinemas now, folks. The great Andy Serkis is my guest, one of the stars and the director. You will enjoy it, people of any aids. The retelling of the classic story. Thanks so much, Andy, Thank you so much. 01:51:12 Speaker 7: Take carele five. 01:51:15 Speaker 4: Double A afternoons with leaf forests. 01:51:17 Speaker 2: All right, let's go Turkey Tuesdays thanks to Turkey Flat Vineyards. Maybe we'll check the AI in Turkey for the non Madonna sounding Madonna AI version. If you would like to win a mixed twenty four pack of the two hundred and fifty mil Turkey flat wine cans, this is the rose, the Pino gree this Chiraz granash. All you got to do is call us now eight double two three double o double o. Who has been a Turkey in your eyes? Maybe it's yourself, maybe someone close to home, or you've seen someone in the public eye. Now interestingly, people have been texting me saying, hey, Leeth, Stacy used to say no to politicians on Turkey two, and I can now see why because there are too many bones of contention this one, said Leith. It's just a dog, Paul said, I have no problems when Barnaby Joyce tells the dog to sit down. How many parents have actually yielded us to sit down and behave You can't tell me that this is appropriate in twenty twenty. That's not going to help the dog. 01:52:26 Speaker 3: You're defending your leader. But are you really comfortable with where she is taking you? 01:52:32 Speaker 14: Bye? 01:52:35 Speaker 2: Sorry the dog see. I think that's going to go into the kind of collection. You know, the guy on a current affair that barked like a dog and it became so well known in media circles. I think, Barnaby, sit down. I might ask Nathan Kosh this before we get to four o'clock. Nathan is a five double, a regular pilot and vet. He might have a thought on that. If you've got to Turkey for as, we want to hear your chance to win the delicious Turkey Flat Vineyard Wines. Dave from South Brighton, who's been a Turkey? Oh hang on, let me play the intro Dave for you appropriately. 01:53:07 Speaker 1: Time to call in and nominate your Turkey of the week Turkey Tuesday. 01:53:13 Speaker 2: All right, here we go, Dave, Who you got for us? 01:53:15 Speaker 23: Well, that's a nearly a late entry there, My sorry about that. That's I would definitely nominate the English soccer coach for leaving in the World Cup Family Final and then deciding to let's play defensive. You have a once in a lifetime chance, and trust me, I've been living since I was five years old to win another one. Yes, my life is taken away and maybe he just threw the opportunity away. So not just Turkey of the wedde Turkey. 01:53:47 Speaker 12: Of the Year. 01:53:48 Speaker 2: Yeah, Thomas took he do you know what's interesting? Then Argentina decided to take that on board, Dave in the final that went crazy, wasn't it. 01:53:59 Speaker 23: And then England played one of the most attacking games and the most entertaining games was ten goal scored in the game. 01:54:04 Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, yeah, I know. Did you think it was coming home? I thought it was coming home Dave. 01:54:13 Speaker 23: Barrett for Australian everything else, and I would have if they'd have been playing against England. But it just comes a little time that goes back to my memory of jumping around and we won the Cup, but I would like to see it one more time and I've been disappointed too many times. 01:54:28 Speaker 2: Well fingers crossed there there's still young enough, a lot of your stars, the jew Bellinghams of the world, So fingers crossed. Excellent start to the Turkey Tuesday. Who have you got? Eight double two three double o double ow Tony from Pennington, who's been a Turkey Tony. 01:54:42 Speaker 24: Leave, leave, leave please, it's got to be Sarah Ferguson. She is someone you know, Burnaby sure his blood pressure looks like he's about to explode, is man? He answers questions like a blokedown the pub. She asks the question, but she will not let anyone answer. She just interjects with her own wake abc agenda. And the poor guy just got frustrated and he cut loose to the dog. I don't think that's the sin man. I'd love to have a barbie with Barnaby honestly. 01:55:22

Speaker 2: So you're turkying, Sarah's got a go mate, I will agree with you. I think she was a little she was a little too angry, I think in the question. 01:55:34 Speaker 13: To apologize for this dog which has decided to bail up. 01:55:37 Speaker 5: No worry about the dog. 01:55:38 Speaker 4: Just answer the question. 01:55:40 Speaker 16: Don't be rude, don't be rude, otherwise this interview will come to a grinding Yeah. 01:55:46 Speaker 2: I think that was a little overboard. I'm not sure she needed to be quite that terse tony with that questioning. 01:55:52 Speaker 24: Give her a turkey mate, all. 01:55:53 Speaker 2: Right, she's in the running. Thank you for that, appreciate it once again, though I don't agree with Barnaby Joy and this is as a dog lover, you know tell that that's not going to work with your dog, all right. Linda from Heyfield Turkey Linda, who is it? 01:56:08 Speaker 22: Oh? Good an late and happy birthday Meil. So it's my husband now because we might be getting a bit old. Yes, and I still got my youngest son living home. And we thought it's a bit lame. We thought we still had two tons of types of honey left in the pantry that were given to us. And I rang my son and he says no, and he says, I think. 01:56:31 Speaker 14: You you two are cooked. 01:56:32 Speaker 22: He's calling us that we're getting a bit past it. 01:56:35 Speaker 2: So, oh dear, so you're turkey yourself? Yes, it's a self turkey. Wow. Oh no, well you left to go to the shops and go and get you some more honey. Linda, lovely nomination. Thank you you and your husband. She is Alan is in old dinger beat. You got a turkey for us? 01:56:54 Speaker 3: Allen? 01:56:56 Speaker 2: Oh what did you do? Why are you a turkey? 01:57:00 Speaker 23: Stupid? 01:57:02 Speaker 2: Just in general, just in across the board turkey, did you do anything in particular though that you. 01:57:08 Speaker 23: Can't the people shout for the people that made everything. 01:57:13 Speaker 24: You're wrong? 01:57:14 Speaker 2: Okay, all right, thank you Allan. We'll put you in the queue. I'm not quite sure we've we've heard enough of the reason why. But hey, that's it's very honest of you and brave of you to to self turkey yourself, Dan, the riddle Man's in Primpton, Dan, who is the Turkey? Please? 01:57:29 Speaker 25: Chris Martin for his efforts to do in the World Cups half on show, the two hours in the sort of half work. 01:57:40 Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, yeah, it was vile, wasn't it. Ronald Dno and Ronaldo the Brazilian Renaldo? 01:57:47 Speaker 13: What the hell was that all about? 01:57:48 Speaker 2: I don't know, Dan, I loved Chris Martin, but who decided to have the Muppets and who decided to have a forty minute halftime? It was atrocious. 01:58:00 Speaker 25: Well, the Muppets pretty probably stole the show. If they had a whole thing just with the Muppets, it would have been a better render. 01:58:08 Speaker 2: Wow. Yeah, how do we celebrate the World Cup? I know, Let's have Justin Bieber play acoustic, Let's have the Animal from the Muppets, and let's have two of the greatest Brazilian footballers of all time in in tight track pants twerking with Madonna. 01:58:25 Speaker 12: Madonna. 01:58:26 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a that is very solid. Thank you for that. 01:58:29 Speaker 7: Dan. 01:58:29 Speaker 2: That's well and truly in the running for the Turkey Tuesday of the week. Who's been a turkey? Eight double two three double o double O. John from Cadena got a turkey? John? Are you coming to the defense of Barnaby Joyce? 01:58:42 Speaker 26: Defense of Barnaby Joyce, Because unless you've actually worked with sheep with a sheep. 01:58:47 Speaker 5: Dog, Yes, no you can't. 01:58:48 Speaker 26: You can't stay to a dog. Can you get on the back of the sheep? Please, You've got to yell at them like they just don't comment to, I don't respond to, just normal talking. 01:58:56 Speaker 2: Yeah, but he's not in the middle of a paddock chasing a flock of sheep. He's just doing an interview. 01:59:01 Speaker 26: Well, the dog was obviously doing something that the camera didn't see. 01:59:05 Speaker 2: See that. 01:59:06 Speaker 26: Honestly, he shouldn't have done it while he's having an interview, like he could have taught it. 01:59:09 Speaker 2: But well, thank you, John. Look, I will I will disagree with you, I will politely. Just Look, I'm with you. I know how farmers treat their animals and they're working dogs. But I would have thought at nighttime, when he's on a TV interviews, that's not the way to speak to your dog. I'm not sure that's getting the message through, but I appreciate your defense of Barnaby on that one. I'll tell you what a man who would know is Nathan Kosh. Nathan Kosh is a regular on five double A, particularly those of you who listen at nighttime and overnights. Nathan is a not only a qualified pilot, but he's also a vet. And Nathan joins us this afternoon. Nathan, lovely to have you on the show. 01:59:52 Speaker 21: My pleasure. It lovely to speak to you. 01:59:54 Speaker 2: Le Is Barnaby Joyce a turkey? 01:59:57 Speaker 21: Well, I'm not qualified in the avan department, so I might need something from a politician one day, so perhaps I won't call him a turkey as such. Let me say that what he did I think was not exactly out of the how to deal with your Dog playbook. Yes, in many respects, I get that he was probably stressed because he was trying to gan to vote for his future. But on a number of grounds. Number one, you don't just yell at them out of the blue because they have no idea what you're talking about. There are ways, obviously, if you've got a barkie dog, there are ways to try and settle them down and reward them for stopping. But just sort of yelling like that does absolutely nothing, because not only did the poor dog jump, but I think all of us who actually paw in we also jumped a little bit and we kept quiet as well. So yeah, I think it's not the right way to go. I'm sure he. 02:00:51 Speaker 20:

Would regret it, even he would regret it. 02:00:53 Speaker 21: If he had his time over again. But it's definitely not the way to go. So I shall leave it up for you to judge, but put. 02:01:02 Speaker 2: In my vote perhaps, thank you, Nathan. Surely they would do more harm than good, would it not? Would it not start all the dog or make the dog aggressive potentially, Well. 02:01:10 Speaker 21: It just confuses the dog because you know, one minute he's barking, which is communicating. Well, some might argue that Barnaby Joyce was having a bark as well when he was being interviewed, but yeah, it's his way of communicating. And you know, to be just yelled at like that, but no, with no build up, with no nothing, with no explanation of look, this is what I want you to do. I think you know this is something obviously that you can't fix in one session. But there were certainly better ways that he could have handled it, but all he would have done was just confuse his dog by yelling at him and saying, well, what did I do? I'm just talking to you. 02:01:47 Speaker 2: So as well as a pilot and a vet, you do a lot of media too. If you're in that position, if your dog was barking, how would you get the dog to be quiet so you can continue? 02:01:57 Speaker 21: I'd probably just say, look, you know, excuse me for a second. Then just make the dog put in another room briefly, or just try and talk to it quietly and just say it's okay, just come down, quiet and down and reward him for being quiet rather than just a yell like that. As I say, I'm sure he felt under pressure to get the dog quiet, but that's certainly not the way to go about it. 02:02:18 Speaker 2: Thank you, Nathan, We love your work on five double A. 02:02:20 Speaker 21: Good to speak, thank you, lovely to speak to you, and hello to everyone in Adelaide. 02:02:25 Speaker 2: All right, have you got a Turkey Tuesday for us eight double two to three double O double oh more after the breaks. 02:02:32 Speaker 4: Five double A afternoons with Leif forres. 02:02:35 Speaker 2: Nine minutes to four Turkey Tuesday. If you go on text, call email. You can see us on the YouTube live stream and on Facebook. I like this from Sean. He said, like there was no dog, Barnaby was just trying to chew up time in a live interview because he was getting eaten alive. Well, good conspiracy theory, Sean. I don't understand how people treat a dog like a human, says another, Sleep with them and make them five course meals. You've clearly never had a dog two three four. You don't have the love in your heart. I'm going to turkey you for that. How do you not love dogs and treat them like humans? There? You have fairy children, they're the best. Andrews said, Barnaby yelling at the dog is a storm and a teacup. You hear kids getting yelled at people yelling at their dogs. He's real. He doesn't deny it, he doesn't try to cover it up like Albo did with his stage four. No, and we turkeyed elbow for that. But don't just like let him get away with it if you don't think that's appropriate. Caroline loves hearing from Nathan Cosh and Jeff said, I'm the biggest turkey. People get very passionate about their turkey Tuesday, not hoping I'm having a crack at Barnaby, Rosie said. I think Barnaby's more frustrated with Pauline because he's back here he has to face up, not knowing what she's going to say next. Graham thinks the moon landing conspiracy theorists, they're all turkeys of the week and another vote for Sarah on the ABC getting the Turkey, Lots of turkey around. Denny from Henley Beach South, Hello, Denny. 02:04:05 Speaker 7: Hi, everybody, how are you very well? 02:04:07 Speaker 2: Who's your turkey? 02:04:07 Speaker 12: Denny Turkey goes to. 02:04:10 Speaker 18: A optometrist down at Marion Shopping Center. I may or may not be allowed to say who they are. I took my disability participant down there today to have them explain as to why she needed to constantly have her glasses changed. What it appears that's happened is that one they didn't tend, two they haven't made the lenses properly. And what they've actually done is upsold her on things that she hadn't asked for. And inevitably they've thought that it's okay to take advantage of someone with a disability because she wasn't able to understand them initially the first time, so I went in there this afternoon with her and what we've ended up doing is actually getting a full refund because they just did completely the wrong thing. 02:05:00 Speaker 2: Yeah, sadly, Danny, that's more than a turkey, isn't it. I mean, we have a bit of fun with this segment, but no, that's poor form. 02:05:06 Speaker 18: That's really big big turkey shout out to an optometrist Marion that boast they can save people money on their spectacles. Yes, and they just don't do the right thing. So big turkey to them. 02:05:20 Speaker 2: World done, Danny in the running, Thank you for that. Matt from Stepney, you can have our last turkey. Matt, who has been a turkey? 02:05:27 Speaker 25: You're Turkey's down? 02:05:30 Speaker 2: Who does me all day? 02:05:34 Speaker 13: About bloke yelling at a dog? 02:05:36 Speaker 14: I think we're getting killed and. 02:05:37 Speaker 26: Three invasions of how the invasions all sorts? 02:05:40 Speaker 25: You're worried about Blake young on the dog? 02:05:41 Speaker 10: You sound pathetic and childish. 02:05:43 Speaker 25: Mate, Okay, thanks absolutely, you're you're a. 02:05:46 Speaker 26: Lot of left wing windy sook mate, Get over yourself. 02:05:50 Speaker 2: Thank you, Matt. I appreciate that. Not sure you're going to win. Thank you for everyone for their turkeys. Who wins should we give Danny? Yeah, I think so too. They're all excellent. Apart from the last one, they are all excellent. But you know that's that's unacceptable. So what we'll do, Danny will give you the prize and you can enjoy that with your family and just hopefully that message gets through that we don't want people doing the wrong thing. If people

have disabilities, don't take advantage of them. Twenty four pack of the two fifty mil Turkey flat wine cans, the rose, the pinotgree the chaz Grenash all coming your way. You'll enjoy that, thanks again to Turkey flat The rose is a favorite, strawberries, flora undertones, crisp finish and more. Just drink responsibly. Well done, Thank you. Gee. People get passionate about their turkey. We're allowed an opinion. I haven't said anything about his politics. I just said he shouldn't talk to a dog like that. That's all. People getting very feisty. So before we go, two bits of good news on this Turkey Tuesday. One is that Brad who we spoke to earlier, was having issue with his ain Z bank. You know, was camping and churing wa, you'll be happy to know phone has the phone issue has been fixed and he now has money, which is excellent news. We spoke to anzed media glad that the situation has been fixed. They've noted down all the details and hopefully that will never happen again, so that he is excellent news. And the second bit, which is terrific if you follow the Adela Crows on social media, you'll see this today. The Great Tony Modra has put out a photo on social media of Tony Erica and the kids and he says SA Ambulance and South Coast District Hospital and the Flinders Medical Center saved his life, put his life back together with some few titanium plates and got him home a beautiful photo with the family, which is excellent news. And the Crows have retweeted that out saying we love you Mods. Isn't that great to see if Stephen Rohde joins us for a second or two ahead of the show. Isn't that good to see the great man with the family family out and about getting out in public now more, which is good for most landed. 02:07:58 Speaker 17: He looks good. I see him at X looks great. Yeah, well, he's got a recovery, he's got a couple more things that need to happen for him. But it was horrendous when the news came through. It was a shock, just so grateful that everyone's okay, and again to all the emergency services. Everything had to happen right for him to be okay. The lady that was there, yep, there was somebody coming the other way that was with the sees and then the helicopter. They were amazed, as you know, I've got a business up in Alice Springs and the Royal Flying Doctors up there save people's lives every day and our remote regions every day. They're one of the great services. 02:08:37 Speaker 2: And you know, yeah, the boss rang the day. I was on that night and I'm like, how do you process that in real time? Not knowing where it was going because we thought it was going pat of shaped? 02:08:46 Speaker 17: Oh hell you? 02:08:46 Speaker 5: Oh it was bloody scary. 02:08:48 Speaker 2: Great to say mod's your star. 02:08:50 Speaker 17: Good many shows from here, you can finish top four, they can go deep. They're building and building and look they had a powerful win against Sydney. The Citney went at their best, but they still would have be them. FOG's out Texas in they play Collingwood Thursday night. He'll kick you seven hundred. He's a Monty for that. Cannot wait for that. We're going to do the gizzards out of Isaac Quaner in his one hundred and fiftieth on that infamous game that you know what happened with our Isaac. So we've got Dean brogan on. Dan McStay from the Pies will speak to him. Eddie McGuire after fight and you don't reckon, I'll give him a couple of rib ticklers. They should a couple of little little crusties across their head. A couple will slaps, so then he'll probably can hit me straight back. Luke Webster from Port Adelaide and samples down. Chandler will join us. There's some talk that the reserves competition for the samdfill might be. I was going to say bone, you can't say that at your time because. 02:09:42 Speaker 2: Gets you in the cars line. You can probably say that. But yes, we'll be watching Steven roighte, Tim Jennifer coming up from four o'clock. Barnaby should row we stand or sit down for the show