Full Transcript for FIVEAA Afternoons with Stacey Lee - 23 April 2026

thousand are on a full age pension try to hang on to their health insurance, which they'll want to do because they're of the age when they're starting to get health problems like needing joint replacements and treatment for heart conditions and so forth. So if they downgrade their health insurance because I don't want to give it up, that could mean they're not covered for significant things that they and that they could end up joining a public hospital waiting list or going to an emergency department as a result. 00:06:56 Speaker 2: And it's one of those things, particularly for those who have always had private health cover. You have that rebate and you keep that same level of cover, so you are covered, knowing that you might need to increase it as you get older. So if you have done that your whole life or for most of your life, and you've paid it, and you pay it every month as you do every year, however it is you choose to do that, then you get to that age where you think, okay, now I'm going to probably need to use this, and this happens. It's like the rugs pulled out from underneath you. 00:07:27 Speaker 4: Yeah. 00:07:27 Speaker 3: And I think that there's a certain a sort of mythology around about self funded retirees that this population is overwhelmingly rich and going on cruises and living in fancy suburbs. Actually sixty three percent of that population has an income of under ninety thousand and about half have an income of under fifty thousand dollars per year, a lot of living in rural and regional Australia and are really pushing dollar coins around the dinner table trying to continue to afford their health insurance amongst other costs in a cost of living crisis, particularly fuel. So this is really going to hit a lot of people in the hip pocket. And what we're suggesting we understand what the ministers said about intergenerational equity. We understand the need to properly fund age care, but we really don't think that people on a full age pension should be asked to pay anymore for their private health insurance. And we think that for people with incomes under fifty five thousand dollars, they should be exempt from this policy. 00:08:35 Speaker 2: Jim on the text line, what about those members who turn sixty five next year who have paid private health for forty five years. 00:08:43 Speaker 3: Well, that's exactly right. I mean, they'll now be in a position where they're going to have to pay more than they would otherwise have expected. 00:08:51 Speaker 2: So a better way to do it, you're saying, would have been to maybe keep this policy, but not have it applied to everyone over the age of sixty five. 00:09:00 Speaker 3: That's right. Certainly no one on a full age pension should be asked to pay more. But I think an income cap of fifty five thousand dollars is reasonable, so anyone who's it should be brought in. But for people whose income is above fifty five thousand dollars. 00:09:20 Speaker 2: Do you expect people to just ditch public private health altogether? 00:09:25 Speaker 3: Now, this age group, that meaning people age over sixty five are usually pretty desperate to hang on to their health insurance because they're just entering the age where they're starting to use it for things like joint replacements, for heart conditions where you might require a stand in your heart arteries, and for things like back surgery. So they know that these things are not always available in a timely fashion in the public hospital system, so they're pretty desperate to hang onto their private health insurance. So we're not expecting masses of people to drop their health insurance, but we are expects doing a lot to actually downgrade their cover and to products with exclusions, and that brings in in the prospect of people actually making more use of public hospitals and going to public emergency departments because they're not covered for everything the way they used to be. 00:10:18 Speaker 2: Yeah, we know the state of the public health system at the moment. The last thing we need is more strain and more pressure on it. 00:10:25 Speaker 3: Well, that's right, and it's private health insurance is particularly good for funding elective surgery. It funds two thirds of the elective or non emergency surgery that takes place in Australia. There's just no room for that to go back into public hospitals and for more people to join waiting lists. 00:10:43 Speaker 2: And you know, we say elective surgery, but a lot of these surgeries that are technically considered elective people do need them, they're just not emergency, you know, hit replacements and. 00:10:54 Speaker 3: A relations These people are sitting around in incredible pain because they can't access the procedures they need to fix these things. So we tend to use the terminology essential non emergency surgery. 00:11:08 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, it's hard. 00:11:10 Speaker 2: I think most people understand that there are budgetary constraints and there is a budget coming up, and there's been lots of talk about Medicare and the public health system and the Medicare levy. What are your thoughts on the fact that will now some of this money that was going towards that rebate for over sixty fives will go back into the public health system. 00:11:35 Speaker 3: Well, look, it's going to go into age care. And the strange thing about it is it's like taking money from one group of old people, of older people and passing it to another group of older people. So that in itself is a little strange, but it does it means I think that the policy needs to be better targeted, which is why we've suggested exempting people on very low incomes and making sure that they're not forced to ditch or downgrade their health insurance. 00:12:07 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. Sandra in Glennowrie has called in on eight double two three double o double. Oh Hi Sandra, Hi, how is everybody everybody good? 00:12:19 Speaker 6: Yeah? 00:12:19 Speaker 7: Good? 00:12:19

Speaker 2: Thank you? How are you right? 00:12:21 Speaker 7: Good? 00:12:21 Speaker 8: Thank you. I have a problem because, unlike many other people with type one diabetes, it's not easy. We have to be on the top table of a health fund or pretty much most of them top table to get the proper cover. We need to buy a ten thousand dollars pump every four years. And if I have to pay another six hundred dollars a year on top of I'm already paying three nearly four hundred dollars every month every month. Yeah, yeah, I just can't afford it. But I can't afford to give it up because I need the pump to live. 00:12:58 Speaker 2: Gosh, Doctor Rachel David, I know you're not really in a position to be able to give direct advice, but do you have any sort of response to to Sandra. 00:13:08 Speaker 3: One thing our organization does campaign on is the exorbitant cost of medical devices and medical technology in Australia. So we have been lobbying the federal government to actually take some steps to lower the price of some things like insulin pumps, where Australians actually pay some of the highest prices in the entire world, and we think that would be a way of taking pressure some of the pressure off people who who do have to have top hospital cover as a result. 00:13:38 Speaker 8: Actually, I know when we were given funding for the censors from the federal government, it cut the number of people that went to hospital, and the same thing would go if we had took it our pumps we couldn't buy them, we would be in hospital much more often. 00:13:53 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, well that's it. You're saving the public hospital system by not needing it, by. 00:14:00 Speaker 8: Having it's cheaper in the long run for them to pay for it than to not. 00:14:06 Speaker 3: This is what i'm and this is what I mean by some of the unintended consequences of these types of policies. It's quite possible that you know, maybe a lot of older people won't drop out as a result, but they will downgrade to cheaper levels of cover and they might not be covered for what they need and they will end up in the public hospital system. 00:14:25 Speaker 8: Well, yeah, o case, if we're not on the pretty much the top cover depends on the fund. The fund, we don't get the pump, so you've got to be on the top cover. And yeah, it's just yeah, I was clarified when I heard the news yesterday. 00:14:41 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're not alone, Sandra. Thank you for calling right, thank you, see you bye bye. 00:14:48 Speaker 9: Yeah. 00:14:48 Speaker 2: And like I said, doctor Rachel David, Sandra's not alone. I'm getting lots of text messages here, Phil. My wife and I have been on private health since we both started working as seventeen year olds fifty years ago. Just beca came a pensioner and received the extra rebate, got a discount on our private health. Now it's being taken away. Not happy, jan and. 00:15:07 Speaker 3: To now furious. I'd be furious if I was in that situation. 00:15:11 Speaker 2: Yeah, because

you make these financial decisions, and yes it's a health decision, but also it is a financial decision. If you're weighing it up. Can I afford the private health? Do I need it? What are my ailments that I might need it for? Like Sandra with Type one diabetes in the family, they know they need that top level cover to have the machinery replaced every four years, and you make these decisions as a family or as a couple or as a single based on your lifestyle and your needs, and then everything changes on you and you've got to reassess everything, and you plan for these things years in advance too. 00:15:44 Speaker 3: Yes, exactly. 00:15:45 Speaker 2: Yeah, sorry, I know I'm having a little bit of a round at you and it's not your decision there, but just had to get that out. 00:15:51 Speaker 3: No, well, it's a big decision and it was kind of hidden away under the other major announcements on the NDIS, so it's important that some life it's been shared on it now. 00:16:02 Speaker 2: So do you have any advice for those aged over sixty five now who have private health and are looking at their options and are weighing it up and doing their budgets, what would your advice be. 00:16:14 Speaker 3: My advice would certainly be to do everything you can to retain private health, because with the state of our public hospitals, it could be very difficult to access care if you do downgrade or drop out. There is a government website that helps people compare different private health products called privatehealth dot gov dot au, and that is a comparison site that has all of the relevant products on them on it and it's and their cost, which may well be helpful for people who are concerned about their budgets. 00:16:47 Speaker 9: Yeah. 00:16:47 Speaker 2: Actually, well, now that you mention it, I've used that website before. Is there a phone number that they have that you know of? Because I, you know, I'm a millennial and I think I'm quite good with tech. Found it a little bit confusing and a little bit convoluted to understand. So I imagine someone who's not as tech able might also find it difficult. Do you know if there's another way people can get more info? 00:17:13 Speaker 3: I don't believe there is from the government side, certainly not in terms of telephone numbers, but there are other comparative sides that exist, groups like Compare the Market, for example, and very similar organizations that can also be of some use. So using one of those comparison sides and then ringing the health fund that you end up settling on to make sure that they're the right one for you is probably the best thing that I can suggest. 00:17:44 Speaker 10: Yeah. 00:17:44 Speaker 2: Great, Thank you for your help today and for your time in explaining that to us. 00:17:49 Speaker 3: Thanks SASCA. 00:17:50 Speaker 2: Doctor Rachel David There, the CEO of Private Healthcare Australia, and she mentioned those comparison websites and sometimes that the trap is with those other parison websites that aren't government owned is if you enter your details, you sometimes get pested with calls or emails. But I will say what someone has told me in the past, an expert from one of these websites, is there's no one forcing you to enter the right details. So if you happen to miss a digit in your mobile number because you don't want people to call you, that's a little tip your thoughts. Eight double two three double double O. Fay is in Windsor Gardens. 00:18:29 Speaker 11: Hi fai, Yes, Hello Stacey. How are you going? I hope you're keeping well? 00:18:34 Speaker 2: Yes, doing well? Thank you? How are you? 00:18:36 Speaker 12: I'm well? 00:18:37 Speaker 11: I'm My reason for bringing in is the same thing, but mine is a different situation because I'm a person who is single. I've never married, so therefore no children. But you know, I think the minister, the health minister, is using age as a way of getting money more money out of people when he doesn't realize that people are struggling. I've been in medical benefits fun since nineteen sixty eight, and I wouldn't I would never be without it. But I know people are struggling just as much as what I am, even though I'm only one person. But at the same time, I had to shop around previously last time, and I think if people shop around, I know it's painful for some, but you might see who can offer a cheaper deal. I was surprised to have heard that when you're over seventy, of which I am. I'm seventy six, and to find that your health insurance is going up by eleven percent, I think that's well, I don't know, but I think that's just a way bit too much. And you know, imagine like that, what would like beef of families, you know, in their seventies, the couple, say, a married couple, and that sort of thing. I just can't understand this current federal government, even though they have to sort out things. It's a very difficult situation. But at the end of the day, I think it's all for the almighty dollar, and they're just taking robbing Peter to pay Paul. In this occasion, in my opinion. 00:20:44 Speaker 2: It certainly feels that way. Faith. Thank you for the call. Eight double two to three double O double oh is the number? Keep your calls coming time for one thirty news headlines now though, and after that what to do with your rubbish? The other week when we had Wendy bevanon from he'sa lots of you had questions about which been certain items should go in. Well, Wendy is the oracle of rubbish, and I mean that in the most respectful way possible. So if you've got a question for her, she knows which bin it goes in. Eight double two three double O, double oh. 00:21:19 Speaker 13: Five double A Afternoons with Stacy Lee. 00:21:26 Speaker 2: Good afternoon to you on this beautiful Thursday, coming up after two o'clock. When is a house not a house? Some residents in the Woodford area would suggest there's maybe one in their street. A four story house has been approved four stories. You think it's quite a

tall house. Mm hmmm, yes, so the residents think so as well. But the issue is not the height in this instance, the issue is the number of bedrooms. Each story has its own kitchen, each story has its own bathrooms, and each story has a number of bedrooms. So is that a house or would you consider that a house of apartments? A building full of individual story apartments? Eight double two three double O double OW is the number to call. And maybe there's one of these in your area as well. You'll hear about that after two o'clock. But now, what do you do with your rubbish? Different items of rubbish, it's hard to work out which bin they go in sometimes. And we spoke to Wendy Bevin from Keyesab last week and there were so many of you that had questions about what to do with different items, and I said we'd get Wendy back, and we have done that. She joins you again. Now, Hi, Wendy, good afternoon. How are you. 00:22:44 Speaker 5: I'm very well, thank you and yourself? 00:22:46 Speaker 2: Yeah, good good, Thank you for coming on again. I know we had lots of interest last week when you were on, so it's good to be able to get you back to answer some of our questions. 00:22:56 Speaker 5: My pleasure. 00:22:57 Speaker 2: If you've got a question for Wendy, eight, double two three double OW is the number to call, or you can send it over the text line zero double four eight zero eight thirteen ninety five. Wendy. One question we got on the text line that we couldn't get to last week was about glass jars and which bin they should go in and do you keep the lid on do you take the lid off? Do they go in separate bins, do they go together? How does it work? And I think this with my jam jars and my gurkhin jars. 00:23:26 Speaker 5: Yeah, there's a lot of questions about the jars and plastic bottles. We get key said here. We actually if you ring the Witchbin hotline, it is us here at Kise to answer that phone. So we go a kind of The Witchbin website is a government thing, but they outsourced that phone line to us. So we get all kinds of really interesting questions. So to the glass jars, and again if I don't have an answer straight to hand, I can always send that through you later. On the glass jars you would put in your yellow lidded bin. And I'm presuming this is for Metro and Regional South Australia. So glass jars going your yellow lidded recite clean bin. And remember that when you put stuff in your recycling bin, you don't bag it. You put it in the loose and the lids can go in there as well. Of a reasonable sized jar, a tiny, tiny lid will probably fall through the cracks of the of the facility that recycles them. But a normal you know, vegimi jar, jan jar, that that kind of thing. You can just put them in your yellow lidded bin. That's the glass question. If you've got a wine bottle, you can either put them in that yellow lidded bin, or if you get someone clickeding your ten cent bottles and cans, you can send them to the same place, but you just won't get the

ten cents for them yet. 00:24:34 Speaker 2: Okay, now what about This is a niche glass question, but you know me, I love niche. What about the spice jars because they're glass but the lids are plastic. 00:24:45 Speaker 5: Yeah, look, so there's always there's always an exception. The glass jar goes in the yellow bin, absolutely, Now what would happen is when they get to that facility that the plastic lids will be taken off. So I would put the whole thing in your yellow did a bit, including their plastic lid. You know, I know someone's got holes in for shaking out the spices or whatever. I lead a lid on because when it goes further down the track to that facility, they may well and when it goes to glass facility, they may well take those off and then send them for plastics recycling. But if you take the tiny, tiny plastic lids off, it might just fall through the cracks at the materials recovery facility, so I would be leading those ones on. 00:25:27 Speaker 2: Okay, good to know. I do reuse them mostly, but you know, sometimes there's only so many small glass jars that you can have that you can use. 00:25:37 Speaker 12: That's right. 00:25:37 Speaker 5: And if you buy bulk herbs or spices or grow them in your garden and dry them, or even just get those little packets and then refill the jars, that's probably the best way to do it, is to refiel those more long glasting containers. 00:25:48 Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah, that's a good tip, all right, Kayleen, And Elizabeth Park has called in on eight double two three double ow. 00:25:56 Speaker 11: Hi Kyleen, good enough. 00:25:58 Speaker 14: Clean ladies. Have a question about my films. 00:26:03 Speaker 15: I want to know where I can get rid of my. 00:26:06 Speaker 6: X ray films. 00:26:07 Speaker 5: Oh that's a very good question. Okay, what suburb are you in, Elizabeth Park? 00:26:13 Speaker 11: Right? 00:26:13 Speaker 5: Let me just try this. I will check because X rays are a tricky one and I'm going to check. So why we're looking. I guess I can say that if you have other medical waste, particularly if you've got medical, medical, medical waste. It probably needs to be in your red lidded bin. 00:26:30 Speaker 3: With your X rays. 00:26:31 Speaker 5: You can drop them off at various places. There's various recycling depots. There's one at Campbelltown, there's eco Cycle at Gilman. And if you're if you're not in Elizabeth Park and you're unsure about something like an X ray, if you're in your local council, they will know which local drop off center for those X ray films. 00:26:52 Speaker 10: Okay, thank you very much. 00:26:53 Speaker 2: That's right, no problem, Kayleen. Thanks for the call. Eight double two three, double O double oh is the number. If you've got a question for Wendy Bevans. She's here from KISAB to help you work out which bin because sometimes it is hard. I think most of the time, Wendy, it's pretty obvious, you know, paper cardboard recycling. 00:27:11 Speaker 6: Yeah, it is. 00:27:12 Speaker 5: I mean we hopefully are now used to that sort of yellow is recycling. Put them in loose green is for anything that grows, so that includes your food waste, your food scraps, pet waste, hair bones, egg eggshells, all of that got and also your green garden cuttings go in your green bin in the Metrolin area, and then your red lidded bin or blue lidded bin, depending on where you live, is kind of the minimal last resort. Anything you really can't put somewhere else is for that one. And then in the school system for public schools and most schools now there's a paper and card bin that's blue, and so that's that's fairly self explanatory. But do you know one of the questions we get asked about the lot a lot is about what to do with milk cartons and lids and things for milk cuttons. Ah, okay, we are I came armed with this one. We get asked a lot about this because it has changed, and it does depend on where you live. So all of us who want to do the right thing might get our milk cotton and we might go, okay, we'll put all the milk milk bottle lids in that carton and so then it can go off to the put it in a yellow bin and it will go off with the lids in. So we get a lot of questions about that, and it depends where you live. So if you are in the northern suburbs North and northern northeastern suburbs, and I've got a list. Well, I won't go through that. Then you can put your little plastics in your so your milk carton. If you are in the southern areas or the Adelaide City Council, Burnside Prospects sort of central areas, you don't put your plastics in your milk carton. You leave them out and put them separately. So that's that's what we've been told the latest. It's about the machinery and how the machinery process is it. I mean all of us. I guess if you if you didn't do it perfectly, but put it in your yellow lid bin, it would be okay. But it's the best to try and do the best that. 00:29:09 Speaker 2: We can, right, Okay. Well, that's good tip. That's good to know here. As much like you said, there's always an exception to the rule, isn't. 00:29:16 Speaker 5: There always always? 00:29:19 Speaker 2: Gary in Collinswood has called in on a double two three double o double. Oh hi Gary, Hello, good? 00:29:26 Speaker 16: How are you just to take a question. 00:29:28 Speaker 14: I've got to do some spreading. So spreading paper I believe that goes in your green waste bin with your lawn cutting. 00:29:36 Speaker 5: So is that correct? 00:29:37 Speaker 2: Did you say shredding, your shredding through paper. 00:29:39 Speaker 17: Okay, yeah, so you've got a shwredder, you know, and yeah, you've got documents you want to spread up. 00:29:45 Speaker 14: What bin? 00:29:46 Speaker 8: Does that go in your recycle bin or the green waste bin? 00:29:49 Speaker 5: Good question, It is a good question, and generally speaking, would be that green bin. As long as it's just plain paper. You're not shredding up heavily coated plastic paper or anything

like that. But it's just stand and shredded paper. And I presume a household is not necessarily going to have kilos and kilos of it. So just keep in mind. And if I guess if you were doing something that was needed to be shredded because it was serious, seriously secret, you would maybe get some confidential documents shredding. But a little bits of shredded paper can go on your green bin, and your egg cartons can go on your green binto and dirty pizza boxes. 00:30:25 Speaker 14: Okay, thank you, there you go. 00:30:27 Speaker 2: Thanks for the call, Gary, And now you mentioned as long as it's not plastic or coated paper. I think every week, Wendy, because one of the most exciting days of my week. This will tell you a lot about how sad. My life is is when the junk mail comes. Because I love junk mail. I read every catalog back to front, front to back. And now my daughter Molly loves reading it as well. So we sit down there and she rips it up in front of me and I read it. And anyway, then I get to the end and I've got all this mail, and I think, what bin does this go in? Because I would usually think recycling, but it's very plasticy and I don't know if it can be recycled. 00:31:09 Speaker 5: The recycle binh okay, all right, yeah, that's right. 00:31:12 Speaker 2: Okay. 00:31:12 Speaker 5: The yellow lidded bin is where your paper and cardboard goes in. It can manage small amounts of plastic. So if you've got an envelope with the window in it, it can manage that. But certainly your junk male printed colored papers and things, that's the yellow lidded bin as well. 00:31:28 Speaker 2: Oh few, okay, And what happens if you put something in the wrong bin? If I put something in recycling that's not meant to be there, that's a. 00:31:37 Speaker 5: Really good question. And again it's all these things are a little bit dependent. So if you put something in there that and we actually do tours, as do some other places to the recycling facilities. That's fascinating to actually go and have a look at all of the machinery, equipment and conveyor belts and magnets and people that work in those facilities, and you see that it goes through a lot of sorting processes. So they dump the bin contents I guess on the floor. Essentially it gets picked up, goes long conveyors and as those different conveyors sort it through, there'll be a paper stream, a plastic stream of glass metal, and there'll be some that's pulled out from magnets. There'll be some of the stuff that shouldn't be there, might be pulled out by people on the line, so which is why we have to be really careful not to willfully do something terrible and dangerous. So some of it will get picked out, and even then in most of the good facilities it will go through aget and check. But that doesn't mean we should just put in anything and think that it's going to be collected. So if you've got your yellow bin and you've got something metal, microwave is a good example. It's got a cord on it, it's electric it's

not going to go through the machinery. It's going to mess up the machinery. And electrical items aren't very safe. So you can't put doubt in your yellow bin. You need to get rid of that because it's electrical waste. Similarly, someone decided to put in the curb side recycling and it started a fire because it's got a battery in it. Oh so some little things we'll just get pulled out. So at the materials recoveryly the ten cent items get pulled out and they go and they get ten cents for them. So that one's an easy one to fix. There's no risks, there's no danger, but if you are putting things in that can create safety risks for the people that work there, or if it's a battery, you just don't not put the battery in any of the bins because they can create fires in the trucks and in the workplace for those people, and you just have to use your common sense and think about where it's going to go. On that line, if it's something like rubble and bricks, we get all kinds of terrible things, incredibly dangerous. It can ruin the machinery and it has to get pulled out and then send somewhere else. 00:33:49 Speaker 2: And when you say batteries, obviously we hear a lot at the moment about those lithium ion batteries that are in the e scooters and bikes and the like. Are we talking just those sorts of batteries or even little double A triple a button batteries. 00:34:04 Speaker 5: You shouldn't be putting any batteries at all in any of your curb side bins. They all of them are risky and dangerous and they've all got the potential to start start fires. Lit them iron ore the worst ones, But you shouldn't be doing it with any of them. And there are battery collection drop offs in lots and lots of places. Lots of supermarkets will collect batteries the website. I think it's called b cycle, but there are you council can tell you, and also local supermarkets might have it. So just put a container collect them. It's the safest thing is to actually put sticky tape on the end of each of those double as or something, just to be doubly sure they're not going to affect each other. And then when you've got enough, just to drop them off as the batteries. There are battery fires every week in resource recovery around South Australia and Australia. And like I said that, the car batteries, in the remote controls, and even kids' shoes with the light up lacers, they've all got batteries in them. Recycling toothbrushes, vapes, and then the power packs and the bigger things like like your chainsaws, really dangerous, huge, huge messages that need because it's people. It's people's safety, and it's truck safety, and it's and it's vehicles. 00:35:14 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, fair enough. It's interesting to note you say to put the sticky tape on the end of the batteries because I remember as a kid when our batteries were dead. I don't know if I should be saying this on the radio, but my dad would make a joke of it and he'd say come here, and he'd put the battery on our tongue and it would give a little little zap. 00:35:34 Speaker 5: Yeah, we did the same. 00:35:35 Speaker 2: Okay, good, I'm not alone. 00:35:37 Speaker 5: I think it was just like, you know, a generational father thing. But yes, I mean an ily learned quite recently there if you put stick tape over the ends over the you know, the A and the B or the plus and minus terminals. It's is that at a level of safety, that's a reasonably low risk. If you've got a small container with them in. I would put them in a plastic container. And you know, we've got a little plastic you know, it's a pring cart and or something near our front door that's just got some batteries into where we get enough we take them off. 00:36:04 Speaker 17: And deliver them. 00:36:05 Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, that's a great tip going through that at the moment. With all the baby toys, they need constant battery replacement. And yes, we've got a little container of them, so that's good to know. 00:36:15 Speaker 5: And we need to be doubly sure with those little you mentioned button batteries. We're enormous safety risk. This is off of my level of expertise, but of course enormous problems if children swallow those, Yes, it's a deadly thing. So we need to absolutely make sure that they're not somewhere. 00:36:29 Speaker 2: Public, absolutely up high locked cupboard, preferably just away, very away. Eight double two to three double O double OW is the number to call if you've got a question for Wendy. And we're getting quite a few, I'll take a quick break and then we'll take some of your calls. Got some coming through on the text line as well, So get on the phone now if you have a question, and we'll be back in just a moment. 00:36:51 Speaker 1: Five double A Afternoons with Stacey Lee. 00:36:56 Speaker 2: Ten minutes to two here on five double A when Bevan is the CEO of key Sub and she's joining you this afternoon to answer your rubbish questions. And I mean that in a nice way, of course, Wendy. 00:37:09 Speaker 5: Waste rubbish. I love it resources more like it. 00:37:16 Speaker 2: Waste and resources questions. Then I better get it right, okay, And we've got some calls coming in on eight double two three double O double Oh. Jan is in Hyde Park. 00:37:25 Speaker 10: Hi Jan Oh, Hi Stacey, great segment, Thank you, and to Wendy. I was recently in NUSA, and I'm curious. At the front of the visitor center, they had a big receptacle which was full of milk, plastic milk lids to the bottles and also the little round circle that goes around a milk bottle, you know how it sometimes comes apart from the actual milk top that you take off, you know what I mean. Yeah, And they said that these are not able to be recycled, and they were asking people to bring them in. They said the size of the actual circle is too small and its people, locals and jurists could bring in all of those top and round things and yeah to that, and I just I was curious, is that applicable in SA. 00:38:33 Speaker 5: We back to the milk cutons

question. It is that really difficult question. So if you are in certain council areas, you put them in your milk cuts. It is an ongoing question about small bits of plastic and what to do with them. There are some other places you can drop off milk bottle lids for collection separately, so it does depend where you live. I am trying, I'm getting more, trying to get a bit more information about how else to get rid of those small bits of plastic. But if you are in I'm not sure, I'm sorry where your caller is. But if you're in certain council areas, you can still put them in your clear bottles. But otherwise you can't and you should be doing it separately. 00:39:20 Speaker 2: But Jans in Hydrid Park, I don't know if that helps. That would be the only. 00:39:27 Speaker 5: Yeah, Nly council let me just I'm just quickly scanned. 00:39:33 Speaker 2: Sorry, No, it's fine. 00:39:34 Speaker 5: It's completely fine. Technically you're not supposed to put them in your milk cartons. That the small lids, and look, it does depend what happens at the material Comecilly, I can. I can find out more from them whether they do have any facility to sort of collect them as they fall out. But they're quite small, so they have these big things called trommels, which is almost like a large it's a large round cylinder where everything sits in the middle of it and it sort of goes around in circles and the small fall out the bottom and then it kind of sorts the waste. So I can find it a little bit more. But the answer was we're not supposed to put them in the milk cut ins. 00:40:08 Speaker 2: Fun me, okay, so put the put the milk bottle in the recycling and then the lid and the round bit that you're talking about, Jan. 00:40:16 Speaker 5: I would still put that in the recycling. But I'll be answerabul to the murph because I think if you put them in the land, you'll win. There's only one place they're going to go. And if you put them in the if you put them in a yellow bin. They'll either end up in the same place or they will collect them all. 00:40:31 Speaker 11: Right. 00:40:32 Speaker 2: There you go, Jan, thank you. 00:40:35 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'll have a look again. 00:40:37 Speaker 2: And look, if you get an update, Wendy, and you want to email it through to me, I can make sure I get the message to Jan and anyone else who's listening, I can. 00:40:46 Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, and I'm given, I'm looking. I'm looking again. As for some other questions, some other answers to. 00:40:51 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, thank you. Anthony in Sefton Park has called in as well. Anthony, you've got some tips on the X ray disposal. 00:41:00 Speaker 12: Yes, Wendy, Yes, I take my X ray photos back to where I have the X rays. I just rang a moment ago and they said, yep, still recycling. 00:41:15 Speaker 16: That's the. 00:41:17 Speaker 12: I don't know whether if I bring them you'll probably get If I tell you, they'll probably get a million. And I think, uh, the X rays. I just rang and they said, oh yeah, we're still taking it. 00:41:34 Speaker 2: Oh, there you go. That's helpful. 00:41:40 Speaker 5: If you call your counsel or perhaps when you have your X rays taken, you can also ask where you can return them to. 00:41:48 Speaker 2: And someone on the text line also said some second hand shops have bins for X rays, So there you go. 00:41:55 Speaker 7: Okay. 00:41:58 Speaker 2: Paul on the text line is asking about Oh, he's just commenting on the witchbin website. He says, it's a great site sometimes, though it doesn't always go into detail on certain things. Cement powder bags have a plastic liner, pet food and kitty little bags have waterproof coatings and he h and he said they can't go into recycling. 00:42:21 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's right. I mean, it's it is a I guess, a comprehensive database, and that the challenge for them is keeping it up to date, isn't it. So yeah, yeah, that's right. So we have we used to be, as I said, we used to be able to put the plastic lids into the bottle and then put the lid back on, but the recently they've said not to do that. So other than that, you might be able to put your bigger plastic lids like Kere peanut by the lids into your yellow bin and then maybe and the smaller ones can go to the specific collections, right oil and Feel bin. And for what the caller was saying, yeah, it's sometimes it's it's quite complex. If you're in the whitch been hotline instead, then you get a person who can work you through some of those the complexities of some of that and come up with great solution. 00:43:09 Speaker 2: Okay, let's go to Joanne and Cheltenham on the phone. Hi Joanne, Yes. 00:43:15 Speaker 18: Hi, Hi Stacey and Wendy. I might have just missed the last question because I turned my radio down. But with the with the lids, I was once told to get like a empty vinegar bottle that's plastic and to fill it up with the leads of any plastic item. 00:43:36 Speaker 19: Is this not correct? 00:43:38 Speaker 18: And then just put a lid on top and then put it in the recycling. 00:43:42 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what Wendy said to do. 00:43:44 Speaker 5: Certainly, it certainly has been what we've been told to do. But it does depend on your location. So where you can do that is sort of northeastern suburbs. My suggestion is if it's confusing and you've done it, then they'll just put it out at the MRF. So if you if you're not sure, but it depends on your suburb whatsoever you. 00:44:11 Speaker 18: In we're in when we're a child to council, Yep. 00:44:15 Speaker 5: Yep, look that I would have thought you probably can't do that anymore. Okay, But which which means either the really small plastic lids have to go on your landfill or some places do separate collections for those plastic lids, because there are some small businesses that are melting the plastic lids down and turning them into other things. So yeah, yeah, news, thank you. 00:44:41 Speaker 18: Rubber band, your broccolini and all these things rubber

bands on them, and rubber bands and not knowing what to do with them. 00:44:52 Speaker 2: Good question, Joanne. 00:44:54 Speaker 5: I have my special container of rubber bands that have come off my broccoli in my drawer and we use it for other things. You know obviously that you know if you've opened a packet of something and you just want to folder over and rub a band, but otherwise it's landfill. 00:45:08 Speaker 2: Landfill. Okay, I do the same. I've got a little tupware container with all the rubber bands in it. But you know, you can only use so many rubber bands, so that's right, if you don't need any more landfill, that's right. Okay. Probably have time for one more question before the two o'clock news. Matthew is in Morphortville High Matthew. 00:45:25 Speaker 14: Good assne ladies. I wonder is there a bigger problem in the processing of recycle that was in the first place years ago. Used to go to a local greengrocer or the product was there, pick it up, put it in a paper bag, and go home. That was fine. Now with COVID, I changed that attitude because of the personal hygiene I saw there. Now I go to the supermarket just about everything's in a plastic container, and then I have to pay for a paper bag to carry it out. I've got one paper bag and a heap of. 00:46:01 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's frustrating, isn't it, Matthew. It kills me as well, particularly the cucumbers. Why does a cucumber need to be wrapped in plastic? It frustrates me. Thank you for the comment, Matthew. I guess more of a comment than a question there, Wendy. 00:46:19 Speaker 5: It is can be really confusing. I know that the best advice, of course, is the if you look at it from a full of environment, a full environment thing that if you look at how buying goods and fresh fruit and produce it's traveled the least, so local farmer's markets, et cetera, or local or the central market of course was awesome, or local green grosses where you can buy still buy them loose and put them in take your own bags which you keep reusing, or buy the compostible not buy so you get a compostible bag in a supermarket now because they can't give away those fruit and vegebags that aren't compostible, and then you can use them in your kitchen caddy on your cupboard and sit them in your green bin with the scraps. So the cucumbers is an interesting issue. The whole research people have spent time for youuring out whether they last longer with those plastic containers, the plastic wrapper, and what the full life use is. But you can buy loose fruit and vent as much as possible, either in your own containers or the compostible bags which you can reuse. 00:47:16 Speaker 2: Yeah, yep, yep, always try and do that. Thank you, Wendy. We appreciate your time today. It's been very informative and we've got lots more questions on the text line that we couldn't get to. So yes, we'll have to chat to you again in a few weeks time. 00:47:30 Speaker 5: Finely happy to do it. 00:47:32 Speaker 2: Sounds good. Thanks so much, Wendy. 00:47:34 Speaker 14: See you. 00:47:35 Speaker 2: That's the CEO of Key Sab Wendy Bevan and yes, sorry if we didn't get to your text messages, there were so many coming through. But Wendy's lovely and we'll get her back very soon and we'll answer some more of your questions. Time for the two o'clock news now and after that, When is a Home Not a Home? 00:47:51 Speaker 1: Five Double A Afternoons with Stacy Lee. 00:47:58 Speaker 2: Good afternoon to you, Welcome the second hour of the afternoon's program. Thank you to everyone who called in before the news to ask a waste question of Wendy Bevin from Keysab. She's just sent me another text message with a follow up. Lots of people asking about milk cartons and which bin they go in, and particularly the lids of the milk bottles and cartons and what we do with those. She said, as a fail safe, you can put the plastic lids back on top of the bottle rather than in it, So that's also an option. That's what I do. I'd never actually heard that that you could put them in until Wendy mentioned it today, and that's only in certain council areas. So if you're unsure, put the lid back on and pop it in the recycling bin and then at the at the depot they'll be able to work out the rest. You know, it is hard. Someone else said, it's very stupid and confusing as to what the rules are. If it varies from council to council with different standards, why would you bother trying to do the right thing. That's from tech. Yes, and I mean, look, I always try and do the right thing, but I can understand that the sentiment there tests it is confusing with different councils and different areas. But the witchbin dot SA, dot gov dot AU website is pretty comprehensive and on the front page you can enter your suburb or your postcode and you can tell it what you've got a question about, and it'll tell you exactly which bin to put that item in based on your council area. Because we know we've got different rubbish pickups. So I've in my area it's East Waste, and there are different ones depending on what area you're in. So yes and no, it can be confusing, and that's why Wendy maybe didn't have a definitive answer on every question. But we appreciate her coming on nonetheless, and we'll get her on again in a few weeks time because there were so many other questions that we couldn't get to. But now I wonder if this has happened in your area or if it's isolated to the Woodford area. A four story home is being built. The plan has been approved four stories. You might say that's a tall house. Yes, but some residents are asking the question about what makes a house a house? Because it's four stories. Each level has its own balcony, its own bedrooms, three bedrooms, its own bathroom, wet area, its own kitchen, and its own dining and living spaces. So is that a house or some would say that is four separate apartments, each with an individual floor, And it's become a concern for residents in the Woodford area. Janet's spouse

is from the residence association and she joins you now, good afternoon, Janet. 00:50:42 Speaker 8: How are you great? 00:50:45 Speaker 20: Great to be here, Thank. 00:50:48 Speaker 2: You for your time. I imagine that this has caused a bit of a stir amongst residents in the Woodford area. 00:50:55 Speaker 20: Yes, we've been quite concerned about the house. The house is not really it doesn't appear in any way to be a house. It is quite gigantic and it's going to have quite considerable issues for the residents I think that are adjoining the house or near the house, but it's just completely not in keeping with the other houses around it. 00:51:22 Speaker 2: Yeah, so what's what's the area like? I think we've got Michael Scroof there, who's a resident of the area in that particular spot. Michael, what is the area like? What are the other houses like in that space? 00:51:39 Speaker 16: So there are some large houses around, but they are clearly single family homes. That the area itself, it's the foothills. There's a lot of bushland around, so it's sort of quite scenic and you know, some nice, big open spaces and there is a mixture of you know, townhouses and the single family dwelling homes that this particular house just you know, it does stand out as being particularly large and perhaps not truly a single family is dwelling. 00:52:12 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I look at it. I'm looking at the pictures now. And when you hear that it's four stories and each story has its own kitchen and its own laundry, and its own individual bedrooms and its own living area and dining area, I think that's not a house that's for individual apartments in my mind. Ye, right, So how do you know how it got approved? 00:52:36 Speaker 20: It went through the State Department for Development and then it was handed over to the Adelaide Hills Council for consideration. I understand that the Adelaide Hills Council did have some concerns about it and they I believe that it went to court and then what happened was there were some very minor alterations made and then it went back to council and was then approved. 00:53:16 Speaker 1: Yeah. 00:53:16 Speaker 2: I did seek a response from council. They've said it was approved by the Adelaide Hills Council Assessment Panel on the eleventh of March this year. It's located in the Housing Diversity Neighborhood Zone and was assessed under the Design Code which was set by the state government, so it sounds like they're operating under state government rules here. They then go on to say the approval includes the condition that the dwelling may only be used as a detached dwelling, and in keeping with this requirement, the levels within the approved dwelling may not be divided or physically separated or partitioned off from each other without a further approval. So that sounds to me, like, you won't actually be able to separate the floors. 00:54:00 Speaker 16: You could. 00:54:01 Speaker 2: You have to be able to walk from the fourth floor down to the third floor without there being a barrier or a door in between. Is that your understanding. 00:54:10 Speaker 20: I understand that that's what was said. But of course the council then doesn't have any authority to go into a home and check whether those matters are being complied with. 00:54:21 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good point. 00:54:23 Speaker 16: It would be a very small amount of building work required to separate them the four apartments. 00:54:30 Speaker 21: Yeah. 00:54:30 Speaker 2: Yeah, like you say, once it's built, I haven't had anyone from council ever come into my house to check if there's a door that's not meant to be there. For example, exactly what about the parking situation and how many cars are they expecting to be there? Doesn't have any garage space. 00:54:50 Speaker 6: It's good a nine cars backer Yeah, so it does have a garage and as Janet said, it's been designed for nine cars, but that's three cars along the front, three cars along the back, and then a stack of that allows the. 00:55:06 Speaker 16: Further three cars to be above the others. So nine parking spots all up, it's insufficient. You know, we all know that no one's going to you know, park nine cars in that garage and has to ask two other people to get their car out. And that particular part of their street is in a coulder stack, but the entire cold stack is no parking, is yellow lines marked all around. So there's going to be parking issues in that particular street, which you know is a big issue in the Hamilton Hill as a whole. 00:55:40 Speaker 20: And furthermore, I think that there will be more residents than nine that will have cars in that particular accommodation yeah, well. 00:55:51 Speaker 2: Each level has three bedrooms, so you know, very quick mass that's twelve rooms, Yeah, twelve. 00:55:56 Speaker 20: Rooms, and it's and they're all double doubles. 00:56:01 Speaker 7: Yeah. 00:56:02 Speaker 2: What about can you paint us a picture of what the street itself is? 00:56:06 Speaker 18: Like? 00:56:06 Speaker 2: You mentioned Michael that it's a cult to sack, So what's the bin space? 00:56:12 Speaker 11: Like? 00:56:12 Speaker 2: How many bins will this house be entitled to have? 00:56:17 Speaker 16: Well, I guess that's the question, and I think you know, every house, you know, I think is entitled to you know, one of each bin. I'm sure you can pay to have more bins, but you know, they do have a little bit of birch states along there I think in that particular street bins maybe not such a huge issue. 00:56:36 Speaker 22: It's a it's. 00:56:38 Speaker 16: Part of the Hamilton Hill development that it's accessed a little bit differently. It's a small street. It might have what about fifteen houses or something all up, but the rest of the Hamilton Hill as stayed where there's probably you know, three hundred dwellings. Parking is very tight. There's insufficient parking for pay the residences themselves, but also street parking from visit. So

the streets are very congested parking on both sides. And on sin day, you know, you can see the garbage truck a struggling to get through the cars but also to be able to navigate to pick up the actual bins from the verge as well. Planning has been missed in terms of basic services. 00:57:22 Speaker 2: Yeah, look, I have to go to a break and we've got some calls coming in as well. Are you too able to hang around for a couple of minutes, because as you can imagine, there's lots of people concerned about this on the text line and the phone line, so I wouldn't mind continuing this discussion in a few minutes. Thank you, Thank you Janet and Michael there, and as I say, we'll come back in just a moment. If you've got thoughts, if this is happening in your area, or you're listening to this and you have some thoughts. Eight double two three double O double OW is the number to call, and we'll take your calls after this. 00:57:55 Speaker 13: Five double A Afternoons with Stacy. 00:57:57 Speaker 2: Lee twenty two minutes past two Here on five double A. We're talking about this house in air quotation marks that's been approved and is being built in the Woodford area. It's a four story house and each level has three bedrooms, an en suite, an office, a wet area, a kitchen, a dining area, and a living area. Each level has its own balcony, and the entire complex has a seller, a gym room, a theater, and a garage for nine cars. Now, would you consider that one house or are you like me and you think hmm, sounds a bit cheeky. That's probably four individual living spaces. Residents in the area, as you can imagine, are rightly concerned about this, and we've been talking to Janet's spouse from the Residence Association and Michael Scroofe, who is a resident in the Hamilton Hill area. Also who someone's called in. Louise lives in the Woodford area and she joined you now, good afternoon, Louise. 00:59:02 Speaker 23: Good afternoon, Stacey. Well, I think if it looks like a duck, it quacks like a duck and walks like a duck, then it is a duck. I think that this is an apartment complex. The idea that it can't be sectioned off and it's all free for people to move through. That's great, but as Janet raids, who inspects that? 00:59:26 Speaker 12: You know, when it goes into. 00:59:28 Speaker 23: Building, the council does an inspection on the property, but legally the council only needs to inspect a third of properties being built in the entire council area. So unless this is particularly on their radar, this property could go through an entire build without any inspection. And once it's built, there's nothing stopping these people putting a petition in or putting up false walls, because no one's going to come knocking on their door into of month's time or eighteen months time and say I just want to check are you compliant? 01:00:05 Speaker 2: And Louise, I understand you're an ex councilor in this area, so that's why I guess you know so much about this. Are there are there any rules around Can the council actually go in, you know, twelve months eighteen months after it's built and say, oh, we'd just like to have a look here, do you know? 01:00:22 Speaker 23: My opinion would be that if it is raised as an issue, then the council would contact the property owners and arranged, you know, to see the property. But it would be up to, I think the residents to actually say I can see that this looks like an apartment rather than that. So once your property is built, the council's done. 01:00:49 Speaker 6: You know, they're collecting your. 01:00:50 Speaker 23: Rates now and your bins and that's it. So I think it's great in theory to say that. But look, I know for myself, I live right next to door to Hamilton Hill. I'm in the established part of Woodford. I We had a build right next to us in Hamilton Hill. They wanted to have one of our significant gum trees cut down because they were putting in a pool and. 01:01:15 Speaker 6: That's what they wanted. 01:01:17 Speaker 23: We advocated for a retaining wall to be put in so that the gum tree was protected. Now that happened, however, the resident has gone ahead and made modifications to that, retaining wolf. So we don't know what's happened to the gum's roots. But when I raised that with the council, they were told we were told, well, that's what went in at the beginning. We don't really have anything to do with it now. So I think these things are great in theory because it looks like they're doing something, But you've got to really have a proactive council that's going to say no, you've breached what the conditions were of your build. And you know, in my opinion, I don't know if Adelaide Hills Council has enough has enough eye over all of the build in their area. 01:02:06 Speaker 8: HM. 01:02:07 Speaker 2: Okay, interesting, thank you for your thoughts. Appreciate the call. 01:02:11 Speaker 5: That's thanks. 01:02:12 Speaker 2: That's Louise, she's called in. David has also called in from the area. David, you've got some thoughts as well. 01:02:19 Speaker 17: Yeah, oh, or for the house, Stacy, Oh okay, go on. Well, I mean you've got to look at the circumstances that that block they're building it on is in a hole. It's pretty much in a hole on the ground and you have to build it up three levels just to get a level with the road, to be honest with you. R Okay, So, I mean it's a three four story house, but from the road rolial clock, I see the story house probably, Yeah, But. 01:02:42 Speaker 2: I guess that the issue that some of the residents have isn't what it looks like from the street. It's what impact it will have on the street and how many more residents will be living inside this house. 01:02:53 Speaker 17: Yeah, but there's already two or three houses next door that probably built the same way, are there. Yeah, there's one. There's one next door. It's three or four levels higher too, So I mean, I don't see the problem with this other one. 01:03:05 Speaker 2: Okay.

01:03:06 Speaker 17: Plus what I said, to get it a level with the road, you have to put three stories on it. Otherwise you've got a long doorway gone down to the road. You've got problems with water getting out all source of things. 01:03:16 Speaker 2: Right, Okay, And you're are you not associated with the house? 01:03:20 Speaker 14: No, I'm not. 01:03:21 Speaker 17: I live down the road. 01:03:22 Speaker 2: Okay, Well, there you go. 01:03:23 Speaker 17: I has a built on a similar block, so I've had to build it up two three levels just to get a level with the road as well. 01:03:29 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, And is yours is yours? Four story? Does each story have its own bathroom and no, no, no, nothing like that. 01:03:36 Speaker 17: Yeah, okay, but it just comes with extra space that you don't really need, but to get it up to the road you kind of use it. 01:03:43 Speaker 2: Yeah, fair enough. Thank you for your thoughts, David. See you might go back to Michael and Janet now and just check that. How how do you how do you feel about those thoughts? And from David that there's other houses on the street that are that are the same? Is that the case? 01:04:01 Speaker 16: I think it's definitely a valid comment. But where the difference comes in is, Hey, I think this housing is bigger than any other house on that street, but also it has been designed with so many bathrooms, kitchens and bedrooms where I'm sure David Carson, other houses on the street, you know there might be you know, three stories that they might have four or five bedrooms and probably only one kitchen and maybe two living areas, but still very clearly a single family swelling or be at large, when this is clearly more than a single family dwelling. 01:04:34 Speaker 2: So what happens from here? Do you have any further further plans to take it further? Can you go to council or the state government or is it kind of done now. 01:04:44 Speaker 20: The problem is that it is done now. The council approved it on the eleventh of March, and there is little that we can do. We're frustrated, we don't think it's appropriate, and you know, we're it's you know, and I think that the issue here is that there are a number of other residents that are near that house that actually didn't want this to go ahead, but have been you know, like that that hasn't been It's probably been considered, but it wasn't taken into what it wasn't, you know, something that could make a difference, and so we're stuck. I think that this is also a broader issue around around the fact that development development laws in this state are quite loose and it is very skewed towards the developer being able to go ahead and do what they want, and councils like Adelaide Hills that don't have a ton of money can't keep running backwards and forwards to court using rate payers money to solve these problems. 01:05:57 Speaker 2: Well, thank you both for raising it. It's certainly an issue that's got a lot of people interested on the text

line, and we've had a few calls on it, so we appreciate you raising it. And next time we talked to the housing Minister, I'll bring it up with him and see because I know they changed the planning laws last year to allow for more co located housing. I'm not sure if this falls under that, but maybe it's something that other suburbs around the state can expect more of in a housing crisis. Maybe they're trying to get as many people into homes as possible. So we'll put it to him next time we've got him on the program. Thank you for your time, right, Thank you. Janet and Michael their residence in the Woodford Residence Association. And yeah, like I say, lots of text messages coming in, keep them coming. Zero double four eight zero eight thirteen ninety five. It is time now though, for the two thirty news headlines and after that Entertainment News with Shane A. Bassett. And if you've got something you've been watching or streaming. Maybe you went to see the new Michael Jackson movie. It hasn't had the best reviews. I'd love to hear your thoughts. If you've seen it already, give us a call. 01:07:03 Speaker 1: Five double A Afternoons with Stacey Lee. 01:07:09 Speaker 2: Let's check in with the weather Bureau now on this absolutely gorgeous Thursday afternoon. Morgan Pumpa is there. Hello Morgan? 01:07:18 Speaker 4: Hey, they're Stacy. 01:07:19 Speaker 2: I've got lots of outdoor activities planned this weekend. Will they be safe? 01:07:25 Speaker 21: No rain? 01:07:27 Speaker 4: Well, we've got the chance of some showers unlike today with the clear blue skies absolutely everywhere, so a nice trip to the pool or beach if people aren't already on their way. So on the weekend, there's nothing to cancigny outdoor plants. We've got less than five millimeters and just the high chance of shareers on the Saturday, medium chance of showers on the Sunday, so just watch that. But otherwise, while it's during the second half of Saturday, we'll cool down from that twenty eight Saturday to twenty to one Sunday with the change moving over. So it's not the biggest system or the most significant, but there is just that chance of some showers this weekend that that could change between now and what happens as we get towards Saturday and Sunday morning. So again, don't cancel any outdoor plans, but just keep an eye out for that chance of showers. 01:08:17 Speaker 2: Okay, we'll do. And what about into next week? Can we expect more of this? 01:08:22 Speaker 4: Yeah, it looks like it's just going to be continuing these above average temperatures. Look, we don't have the twenty nine like what we've seen from today, but it's still twenty five twenty six Monday and into Wednesday, so it's still above average very much the warm temperatures. And even though it's been quite hot today, we're just pretty much into the final days of April next week, so it's just getting even closer to May, which means we're just sort of not getting those cooler temperatures to climatize to just yet. And it's all the weather's vault. 01:08:52 Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, that's for sure. But we'll take it while we've got it. Morgan, that's thanks for the update. 01:09:00 Speaker 16: No, wait, see you. 01:09:01 Speaker 2: That's Morgan Pumper at the Bureau of Meteorology. 01:09:16 Speaker 13: Movies and Entertainments with Shane A. 01:09:19 Speaker 1: Bassett. 01:09:22 Speaker 2: He is the movie analyst and joins you now, good afternoon, Shane, Hey. 01:09:27 Speaker 7: Faisy, good afternoon, and good afternoon everyone. 01:09:30 Speaker 2: Well, I think the biggest most anticipated release this week is Michael the Michael Jackson biography. We've been talking about it for some time. I'll play some of the trailer and then I'm very keen to get your thoughts because it's had it's had very mixed reviews, certainly has. 01:09:48 Speaker 13: Here we go. 01:09:50 Speaker 19: You're confident, you're strong, you're beautiful. It's a great us of hard time. 01:10:05 Speaker 24: Let me tell you something in this life. Yeah, I had a winner for your looks. Y'all want to work in a steel mill like me for the rest of your days, because that's sure. It's how dull y'all willing to faith for it? Yes, I need to hear you a little loud. Y'all willing to faithful? 01:10:22 Speaker 7: Yes, ready, whenever you are, Michael. 01:10:32 Speaker 2: I think so many people were looking forward to this, Shane, And yeah, I've seen some pretty horrible reviews. What did you think? 01:10:40 Speaker 7: Well, I saw it on Tuesday, and let me just say I'll start with some positives because you know, I've got to. I don't want to write it off completely. And it's definitely a pile of music that I don't really like. I'm not a big pop music fan. I'm much more in a grunge and nineties sort of Green Day and the Offspring and Pearl Jam's that's much more me. But I do appreciate how much of an icon Michael Jackson is and it's hit after hit through his career, and the movie was inevitable. They were going to make a movie about him, and it was sanctioned. It was all approved by the Michael you know, the Jackson estate. Everyone was involved in family side of things. Besides LaToya Jackson. I believe she was the only one who's stepped away from it. And the movie itself. Look, all I'll say is that Jaffa Jackson, who's a relative. He's the son of Jermaine Jackson, So nephew of Michael does a really good job, I think under the circumstances, because there's a lot of pressure playing Michael Jackson. He moonwalks, and his mannerisms and his speech and things just exact, you know, from what I know of Michael, And I know there's a Fishionado's out there know a lot more than I do. But the movie itself, it's almost like they are glossing over too many things that made it to make it crowd friendly and a crowd pleaser. Some things just aren't addressed. I don't know whether it's legalities or what it might be, but it's hit after hit through music. But the storyline is just not there. It really is

so transparent, and I mean I wanted to know more about the family, more about the Jackson five and so on, but it's life pressing play on a DVD. When you used to get DVDs of your favorite band and all the music videos were on that DVD and your press play and it just would go on and on, one after another. Well, that's what this is like. The soundtrack is brilliant, don't get me wrong, and I'm not even a big fan of the style of music, but it is really good. Every song is here up until Bad because as I mentioned last week, this is only part one. It goes up to the bad era the album and then it just stops. So part two is supposed to be next year, and whether they change things or not, I don't know. This movie was supposed to be released last year, but it got such bad test screening audience scores the producers thought, what's going on here? We better do some reshoots. So they've I don't know exactly what they've had to reshoot and change, but yeah, we got it this year. Instead of last year, and I just came out so flat. It was an awful film, generic in every way. I learned nothing, and yeah, if it wasn't for the music and a few performances that weren't too bad, it's it's a flop. Save your money, don't go oh no, wow. 01:13:36 Speaker 3: Well I guess, But it's. 01:13:37 Speaker 7: Personally it's a crowd pleaser, like I said, Stacy, So you're going to get maybe some die hard fans that will just go into it and enjoy. You know, they'll just see it for what it is. But I wanted more substance, more more dramatic poise, but there's not there's nothing to grab on, grab onto there. 01:13:54 Speaker 2: Well, when you think about it, he's such a I don't know the word, but he's a fascinating character. And he's polarizing as well. People have their own ideas and theories about what went on in Michael Jackson's life and family life and career and personal life, and you would hope that a biography film would would delve into it a little bit. But when you say it's the Jackson estate that that was helping to, I don't know, produce it and put it together and get the official okay or sign off on it. It makes sense that they want the sanitized version out there and they won't go into any of the controversial aspects of his life. 01:14:34 Speaker 7: Yeah, it's PG for a reason, and there's too much glossing over I didn't you know, you don't hear about the controversies and inviting children to his house and the zoo and the monkey and the accident of the hair going on fire, and you know, the era of hanging the baby over the balcony, and just he was always polarizing, as you say, And you don't have to be that full on about those incidences because you want to maybe focus on the music in that. But you've got to have some of it and not just be a music video. It could have been just a streaming movie. 01:15:10 Speaker 25: It is that bad. 01:15:11 Speaker 2: Oh gosh, Okay, Well, if the first movie has gotten this sort of response, I can't imagine. Is there a chance they don't even release the second one or will they have to release it and it'll just be an even bigger flop. 01:15:23 Speaker 7: No, they don't have to at all. It's all about money making money in the film industry in Hollywood, and if it gets enough negative reviews, There was a Kevin Costa movie called Horizon. He made three parts, Part one, Part two or part three. Part one was that received that badly? That part two is still in limbo and it was supposed to come out in twenty twenty four. So movies can get put on hold or put on the on the shelf. It just depends. I don't think this will be though, because I actually do think it might go okay at the box office. People will be intrigued and the fans won't care that dieard. Michael Jackson fans will be keen, and a lot won't know that it's only part one because you know, they're not advertising it, they're not telling anyone. It's just people like me that are letting you know. 01:16:07 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, people who are Michael Jackson fans. They might want to go to the cinema and be able to bop along and sing along to his hits and be happy with the sanitized version of the biographical form of his life. 01:16:21 Speaker 1: That's right. 01:16:22 Speaker 7: It's sort of. There was a live the life stage show of Michael and I think I didn't see that, but I think it just goes along as the same sort of plot line. If you could call it that to that you know, what was live on stage on theater what they've transferred into a movie. But yeah, it tells me that they just didn't want any controversies, any black sort of clouds over him because he had such a controversial career. And maybe it'll change in part two. Maybe they will dig a bit deeper into that side of things, the end of his life and career and how he was looked at in the media and so forth. Yeah, not not with part one, that is for sure. It's it's just from start to finish, it like a pretty glossy music video. 01:17:08 Speaker 13: That's all right, Okay. 01:17:10 Speaker 2: Debbie in South Plimpton has called in on eight double two three, double O double ow. Hi Debbie, Hi, guys. 01:17:18 Speaker 10: You did know that Janet Jackson refused to be represented in that movie, don't you? 01:17:23 Speaker 26: Yeah? 01:17:24 Speaker 7: LaToya, I wasn't. I wasn't too sure about Janet, but I know LaToya was stepping away from it as well. 01:17:31 Speaker 15: But she was at the premiere, LaToya, Yeah, but she had she did. 01:17:36 Speaker 7: She did have a few things to say though, which I was surprised about. I don't think she had a lot to do with the making of it. It's hard to tell because this movie has been around for such a long time. 01:17:45 Speaker 27: Yeah, not everyone was on Blois, and I don't believe Paris was. 01:17:49 Speaker 2: Either, Okay, right, Okay, so there's a few members of the Jackson family that didn't want to be involved. Okay, yeah, oh, thanks for that, Debbie. Have you seen Have you seen it yet? 01:18:01 Speaker 16: Debbie? 01:18:03

Speaker 25: No, and I won't. 01:18:04 Speaker 16: It's all fluff. 01:18:05 Speaker 18: I know the whole story, the real story, And I can't believe people would make accusations like that and then to destroy their own lives if it wasn't true. 01:18:14 Speaker 22: That's my thinking about that. 01:18:16 Speaker 2: M fair enough, Thank you for that, Thanks for the call. Okay, by see you well. And Debbie's not alone. Dan on the text line, says, I watched Leaving Neverland and I'd never want to spend ascent on anything with Michael Jackson's name on it. So he is, like I said, he's a polarizing figure. 01:18:34 Speaker 7: Yeah, he still has his fans, and I get that because he was revolutionary with a lot of things, with the music videos and the dancing, and he's It's just as his career wore on, it just got a little bit darker and darker and a little bit more mysterious and not in a good way. M All right, well you don't get in the movie unfortunately. 01:18:54 Speaker 2: Yeah, that is a shame. Well, after this we will talk about two other movies that have been released this week, another one out in cinemas and one that's available on Netflix. So I'm looking forward to that in just a few moments, Shane five Double. 01:19:09 Speaker 13: A Afternoons with Stacy Lee. 01:19:15 Speaker 2: Nine minutes to three. Here on five Double A after three point thirty, we're talking about gender neutral toilets in public spaces because we're told this might be a bit more of a regular thing with some planning code amendments. This is nationally. The Australian Building Codes Board has raised the issue and they're suggesting half of the toilets in all new public buildings, so this would be stadiums, shopping centers, different office blocks, half of the toilets in those buildings could be designated as gender neutral. How do you feel about this? Eight double two three double O double oh is the number to call to have your say, and we'll be discussing that, as I say, after three o'clock. But now we're in the middle of movies and entertainment news with Shane A. Bassett and Shane. There was another movie out in cinemas this week. It's called Beast. Here's some of the trailer. 01:20:13 Speaker 28: Why do we train so hard so I can breathe? Why do you need to breathe so I can think? 01:20:18 Speaker 11: Why? 01:20:20 Speaker 28: If I can breathe, I can think. If I can think, I can win. 01:20:29 Speaker 7: That's the way, boy. Now list it in all the perspect You're on the greatest MMA middleweight of all time. 01:20:42 Speaker 28: Now you're working on a fishing trailer. I'm not a fighter anymore. 01:20:46 Speaker 2: Oh is it Aussie film? 01:20:49 Speaker 7: Yes? It is a Russell Crow. Basically. If it wasn't for his involvement, I don't think the movie would have got made. He was very strong behind it. Beast is definitely a movie that comes with a warning. It's got some violence in it, very unassuming violence, and it's about MMA, and it's something that I'm not very much interested in, but I know how popular it is. And MMA is essentially mixed martial arts, the form of fighting that guys do in a cage, and there's very few rules from what I can tell anyway, But this is a pretty solid story if you're just looking at it as a movie. About a family. It's about a former champion of MMA who is now a fisherman. He's out of the game, he's had enough, but his brother is in a bit of trouble and he goes into the cage to fight again to help out his brother. And Russell Crows the sort of the old school type coach mentor, and he's very good. Liam Hemsworth is in it. Amy Shark, the singer. She has a role in it. She's acting. She's quite good. And the movie itself is pretty good. But be warned, it's very brutal. It's fighting, and it's realistic. It's not going to be for everyone's taste. And I'm only reviewing it today because even though I thought it was a good film, it's not something that I it appeals to me. MMA miss martial arts are pretty solid. I don't know. It's a really hard sport to watch and do, I can imagine. But good movie, well acted, good music, and great cast. But yeah, it's a tough, tough one to watch. Beast. 01:22:25 Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay, it's MMA is not really my thing. I'm not sure it's something I'll be going to the movies to see see. 01:22:31 Speaker 7: I'm not into boxing. And those kind of and even karate at times. Those movies not me, but I get the skills in a lot of them, and the plot lines can be quite you know, uplifting, especially boxing movies, you know, going way back. But Mma is a different as the movie is called a different Beast and it's it's full on and the movie doesn't hold back. So just it's only I'm very surprised because it probably could have got an R rating. 01:22:59 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, ah, all right, good to know, especially if you're going into a movie, you'd rather know that it's going to be on the more riskue side, on the more brutal side before you head there. 01:23:10 Speaker 28: I think if you. 01:23:11 Speaker 7: See the poster you'd know. It's quite a revealing poster as well, with the fighter very up close to Dan McPherson, he's the lead. They're all good in it, but it is it's a tough one, especially if you're not into that sport. 01:23:24 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, And now Anzac Day on Saturday. There's quite a few Anzac Day movies out there, and you've got some recommendations. 01:23:32 Speaker 7: Oh look, it's quite privileged to recommend Anzac movies or war movies in general that we make here in Australia because we've got such a long history of top notch films that just stand the test of time, and I thought i'd in this year maybe recommend a few, including The Water Diviner. Speaking of Russell Crowe who directed this, he stars in it. It's about a dad who goes over to Turkey because his sons have been called missing, but he believes they're still alive, so he goes for a search over there. Really lovely film, and that's also got Jacqueline McKenzie in it. Then you've got

The Light Horsemen that's on prime video. One of one of my personal favorites, True Story of the Light Horseman Brigade with Tony Bonner and Gary Sweet and Peter Phelps, John Blake. Great great movie, that one, The Light Horseman. Then Gallipoli. I remember doing that at school. I think a lot of people do that at school. The movies from nineteen eighty one, the soundtrack, the Acting The Young mel Gibson directed by Peter Weir before he went overseas and became a very renowned director. Great film, and that is on Binge if you're interested, or you might have an old DVD copy of Gallipoli somewhere, and there's Anzac Girls as well, when I know a lot of people haven't heard of. It's on ABC ABC iView. It's about the girls, the women behind the scenes during the Anzac and wartime in Australia. Really really good movie. It's a different perspective. Well it's actually a series, but it comes across as like a long, long film. I enjoyed it. Just cart Anzac Girls on ABC. 01:25:02 Speaker 2: I'll have to add that on to the list. It sounds super interesting. 01:25:05 Speaker 7: Yeah, I really liked the perspective. And I mean there's one about Kakoda, and there's documentaries as well as feature films, and there's The Odd Angry Shot, which is about Vietnam. And then we make really good war movies, and I think because we have such a long history in that era of military I think it comes across in good filming, good acting. So yeah, I could recommend a lot, but I just thought I'll stick with those this year. 01:25:33 Speaker 2: Some excellent recommendations. As always, Shane, thank you for your time. We appreciate it. 01:25:38 Speaker 7: All good Just avoid Michael. Don't waste your money telling people not to go to the movies. But it's not a great film. 01:25:45 Speaker 2: Unfortunately gosh yeah, there'll be lots of people disappointed to hear that, but I will be taking your advice. Thank you, probably see you. That's Shane A. Bassett, the movie Analyst, and he'll be back next week with some more movie reviews. And as always, your reviews are welcome to Maybe you've seen Michael and you feel different, Leader Shane, I'm happy to take your call on eight double two, three double o double oh. Time for the three o'clock news now though, and we will very soon be discussing this idea of more gender neutral toilets in public spaces. How do you feel about that? And we had such a big response to the private health insurance rebate chat that we spoke about earlier, so we might revisit some of that for those who missed it. So if you're over sixty five and have private health insurance, there's some changes heading your way, we'll fill you in on what they are. 01:26:35 Speaker 1: Five Double A Afternoons with Stacy Lee. 01:26:41 Speaker 2: Good afternoon to you. Welcome to the third and final hour of the afternoons program. I am Stacey and we are now live on the Facebook and YouTube live stream. Jump on there and say hello. In around half an hour's time, we are going to

be chatting to Michelle Pierce. She is from the Australian Christian Lobby and they have some concerns about an increase in the number of gender neutral toilets in public spaces, specifically about a new proposal to have more than half of the toilets in some public buildings as gender neutral ones. And I'm wondering what you think about it. This afternoon on eight double two to three, double O, double O, getting some text messages in on the matter. Zero double four eight zero eight thirteen ninety five. Adam says women deserve to have their own spaces free from biologically born men. Thank you for that, Adam. And we also have a text message here from Linda. She says I was at the RAH and they seem to have a lot of unisex toilets. My hubby's been attending the Hyperbaric Oxygen Clinic on Level two daily for the past six weeks and when I go with him, we travel from inmand Valley, I use the unisex toilet on level two. I've found the toilets are not clean most of the time when I use them. Thank you for that, Linda, and that's I concern. My main concern with this as well is the cleanliness and no offense fellas. But I don't really want to be going into a loop after you've been in it. I don't even like doing that at home. You know, we've all got different standards off the toilet seats left up, which I don't like either. And I just think women are generally more clean, if I can say that, And I don't like the idea of having to share toilets with men, but particularly now as a mum to a daughter. This is a conversation that Ben and I have had at home, and he actually said to me not too long ago, just thinking, when Molly's a little bit older and she goes to the toilet, and if I'm out with her, what toilet would I take her to? And we were both sitting there and I was sort of I was lost for words, which as you know, doesn't happen very often. And I thought, huh, that's a good question. And we both thought about it, and I said, having thought about it, I would feel more comfortable with you taking her to the women's if you can just knock on the door or open the door and say hello girl, dad coming in. I'm bringing my daughter in. Is everyone okay with that? And usually I think the women in the women's bathroom would say, yep, all good, that's fine. Because me as a woman, if I was in the bathroom by myself and I heard a dad knock on the door as I'm bringing my daughter in, is everyone okay with that? I would much rather than come into the women's than take a young girl into the men's bathroom. But this is something we might have to consider more. If we're having gender neutral toilets, do you have young kids going into a toilet with men standing at the urinal? 01:29:44 Speaker 22: I don't know it. 01:29:45 Speaker 2: It doesn't sit well with me. Maybe I'm in the minority, though, I'd love to hear your thoughts. Eight double two three, double oh is the number to call. We've got lots to talk about this half hour. Very soon, we're going to recap some of the information for over sixty five. What's the changes to the private health insurance rebate? So I'll play you some of the interview we had with doctor Rachel David very soon. But first up, Glenn in t Tree Gully. You've called in on eight double two three, double o double. Oh hey, Glenn good. 01:30:15 Speaker 29: Afternoons says it's just an observation. The cow Tech service station, which is like caated on the corner of Northeast Road and Saint Bernard's Road. I think it is right opposite the Holme Hill Police station. 01:30:32 Speaker 2: Oh yep, yep. 01:30:34 Speaker 29: On Monday, when I went past there about eight o'clock in the morning, I noticed still and no pricing up and all the bounsers all had a little yellow on the lape side. Who all the handles not in use, not in use? Went past there yesterday, so I rang it into your to you guys to let you know, and then I went past again today and they still don't have any fuel. 01:30:54 Speaker 8: Oh. 01:30:55 Speaker 29: Interesting, So monday chairs there wears that's four days. 01:30:59 Speaker 8: Wow. 01:30:59 Speaker 2: Yeah, and are we had's That's really interesting. I wonder if other Caltech servos are experiencing the same issue. Thanks for raising it, Glenn, you too, see you and I know there was a national cabinet meeting on this matter today. The Premier, Peter Malanowskis spoke not too long ago. Here's what he had to say about the fuel supply. 01:31:20 Speaker 26: I'm very pleased to report that we sustain a position in South Australia is consistent with the rest of the country that for the foreseeable future fuel supplies are intact. In fact, when it comes to regular petrol iloed petrol, we see ten days more fuel supply in the country today and then what was the case when the Iran war commenced. 01:31:40 Speaker 2: So there you go. That is the Premier Peter malinowskis commenting on the fuel supply. If you've noticed the same in your area, happy to take your call on eight double two three double o double ow. Father Joan has called in on the same sex toilets matter. Good afternoon, father Joan. 01:31:55 Speaker 21: Absolutely Safey. Just think I'm an expert because I walk the and not just here but wherever I'm away, and I just think to Canada and a number of same sex toilets and unfortunately the floors are always dirty, let alone everything else. But I think if we're going to do it, then we don't have cleaners there every hour. Yeah, it should be very expensive. They got to find an automated way, a robot way of cleaning the floor. 01:32:25 Speaker 12: And the toilet. 01:32:26 Speaker 21: I mean, I'm just ask Singapore how to do it. Their airport toilets are amazing. It can be done, but it be expensive. 01:32:36 Speaker 2: It would be very expensive. I'm just trying to think of ways. See, I've got one of those little robot vacuums at home. His name is Orlando Broom and he he vacuums and mops. So I guess you could have one of those going constantly. But that doesn't help with the toilet

seat being left up. 01:32:54 Speaker 21: I know they could be on a spring name and automately come down. Yeah, but imagine put your hand across, and I wouldn't put my hand there. I mean, I bet, I bet the Malaysians or the Chinese will think of a way of doing it, because they're better at it than us, unfortunately. 01:33:14 Speaker 9: But let's put it out there. 01:33:16 Speaker 21: Yeah, So, any bright spark that can work out the mechanics of keeping a toilet area clean. 01:33:22 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I would think it's just isn't it just basic manners of cleaning up after yourself. Just don't leave a mess. 01:33:28 Speaker 21: But I don't think you and I know we're never going to change some people. 01:33:32 Speaker 2: Yeah that's very true, father Joan. 01:33:34 Speaker 9: A road, but would be easier, yeah, and more reliable probably absolutely. 01:33:39 Speaker 21: Anyway, how is it up for you too? 01:33:41 Speaker 2: Thank you for the call. See maybe you've got some thoughts on this eight double two three double O double oh. This person on the text line says, yep, I don't want to go into a loo with blokes having access. Thank you Jane as well, I don't like gender neutral toilets. Men don't put the seat down nor leave a nice smell behind. It's tolerable when you're related. That's a very nice way of putting it, Jane. 01:34:04 Speaker 21: Thank you. 01:34:05 Speaker 19: It is. 01:34:05 Speaker 2: It's tolerable. You can tolerate it. Doesn't mean you enjoy it, but you can tolerate it when it's someone you know. When it's a complete stranger, not so much. Speaking of the fuel supplied, Dave has called in in South Brighton. 01:34:20 Speaker 12: Hi Dave, Hi Stacey. 01:34:23 Speaker 25: I've just done an eight nine three state motorbite trip with eleventh. There was eleven of us unbite and we did three thousan six hundred kilometers and we did not find And we were a regional town, small, tiny, little town. We did not have a fuel issue anywhere except for Pineroot and they had plenty of fuel in the ground. But they're pumped for that morning. That was only played everywhere else plenty of fuel. Now, normally when we do these trips, it works out roughly about ten dollars one hundred in kul. Right, so that's the rough guy. This trip three thousand, six hundred and it cost me three hundreds and seventy dollars, so it's only it was a fraction. 01:35:12 Speaker 27: Heer. 01:35:13 Speaker 25: Now we're not running diesel, obviously, we're running one leathers. Yeah, yeah, Just also about your toilets, being a plumber, right, been in lots of toilets over the years, male and female, and I can tell you they're both just bad at each other in cleanness. You know what, Sometimes you're. 01:35:30 Speaker 2: The second one bad someone did. Sorry we missed that last bit. 01:35:35 Speaker 19: Go ahead. 01:35:36 Speaker 25: Sometimes the female toilets are much worse than the male toilet. 01:35:40 Speaker 2: You know what, you're the second trading to say that this

afternoon, Dave, you're a plumber. Marty is an electrician, and he said visiting male and female toilets is an electrician. Females can be as bad. 01:35:50 Speaker 25: As the males, often worse, often worse. 01:35:55 Speaker 2: Okay, well there you go. I'm really interested about your road trip too. And you didn't didn't come across any fuel issues, and you mentioned that you know, you're not diesel, you were getting petrol. But I mean, that's that's good for you. 01:36:08 Speaker 25: And we went up and yeah, came all back through Victoria for the PAFF and that was not a problem at all. 01:36:15 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, there you go. Thank you for telling us. 01:36:20 Speaker 12: See data. 01:36:21 Speaker 30: Bye. 01:36:22 Speaker 2: Well, the gender neutral toilets has lots of people ringing in and sending their text messages. Adele in Royston Parks on the phone, Hi, Adele, Hi. 01:36:32 Speaker 15: There, I've just been listening. You know, some don't really give it much thought, but I've been listening on the ride back with my brother, and all I can think is if these people who had to use the bloody bathroom, there's cleanliness issue shouldn't be an issue. I know, Robert, I lived with three brothers and my dad. I've got four men in my house and I'll tell you right now, clearly this doesn't seem to be the problem here. So maybe if you teach people how to use the bathrooms, this wouldn't be an issue on either side. 01:36:57 Speaker 4: Yeah. 01:36:58 Speaker 2: Well, that's interesting that you live with four men, Adele. So would you be happy in a public space to use a gender neutral toilet. 01:37:06 Speaker 15: I'm a young person to me, the issue is non issue. It's just sum's in the bathroom, gotta go pee leave. I really don't care that much, to be honest. Yeah, what are you doing in the bathroom? 01:37:16 Speaker 23: Pig like I could not. 01:37:18 Speaker 15: I don't want people to think about what I'm doing in the bathroom. I thinking about what other people are doing in it. 01:37:24 Speaker 2: You make an excellent point, Adele. I'm glad. I'm glad that the people you share your toilets with are clean and know what they're doing. 01:37:32 Speaker 15: Oh they need to know, otherwise there's going to be hell to pay. 01:37:34 Speaker 10: I'll tell you what. 01:37:35 Speaker 15: My mum's twice as bad. 01:37:36 Speaker 6: As I could ever be. 01:37:39 Speaker 2: I can tell they're unnoticed the men in your house. Yep, thanks for the call, Adele. Well good black, I see you Bye. That's Adele in Royston Park. What do you think about this? Roy Lean in Clemsig. 01:37:53 Speaker 9: Hello, Oh, good afternoon, Stacy. Wonderful programs. Mine's a little bit different. When my order was little, I sort of told her never to go into any strange toilets, and that particular time, my husband he took her to the pictures and of course she wouldn't go to the toilet and he had to bring her all the way home to go to the toilet and go back in again. 01:38:18 Speaker 2: The poor thing. 01:38:19 Speaker 9: Oh no, and he already paid for the tickets and all and that, so he sort of said to me, well, it was a good idea, but you know, it's a bit fa to go and come back home. 01:38:29 Speaker 2: And how far away were the cinemas? It was in the city. 01:38:36 Speaker 9: Yeah, it was in the city. And yeah, but he thought I taught her right, So yeah, that was one consolation taking my call. 01:38:46 Speaker 21: Love your program, thanks. 01:38:48 Speaker 2: Roy Leane, and appreciate the calle Bye eight double two three double o double oh is the number. Keep your calls coming. We've got some more time to take some more calls. 01:38:59 Speaker 13: After this five double A Afternoons with Stacy Lee. 01:39:06 Speaker 2: Twenty four minutes past three here on five double A. Very soon you're going to hear from the Australian Christian Lobby which has some thoughts on the idea of more gender neutral toilets in public buildings. But we're taking your calls now on eight double two three double o double Oh. And Matt and Seacliffe has called in. Hi, Matt, you want to talk about the NDIS changes. 01:39:27 Speaker 22: Yeah, indeed, Yeah, And good afternoon, Stacey, hope I'll find you well. 01:39:30 Speaker 2: Yeah, doing well, thank you. 01:39:32 Speaker 17: That's good to hear. 01:39:33 Speaker 14: Yeah. 01:39:34 Speaker 22: Just in regards to that, my mate, I've been make Stein for the best part of forty years. When we've got to Australia, his beautiful mum died about three months ago from pancreatic cancer and she was like, they live in well, just near Clave, it's a place called dark Peat. Now, she was allocated a certain amount of money. I can't excuse me, I can't remember the top of my head exactly how much it was. But basically what she needed towards the end of her life was like things like you know, adult nappies. 01:40:11 Speaker 9: You know. 01:40:11 Speaker 22: There was a lot of medication. There was certain bedding and that that she needed just because of you know that in the city is you know, disease. But she was basically told that now all that money that you've been allocated, you can't use that for encuntments, you know, certain medications and whatnot. So her and her lovely husband were forking out money left, right and center, only to find out that in the weeks after she passed away that there was a table two nurses traveling down twice a week from Port Lincoln. It was twelve hundred dollars each time, so six hundred bucks each way they were getting paid. So they were quite happy to pay them, you know, you know, effectually turn a half dollars a week, but they wouldn't help them out with something like you know, adult nappy's and you know, you know, basically help her and hour of need effectively. And that's when I heard people ringing up this morning saying lots Graham Gooding so talking about a clear a buoyant and yellow Southsayers and you know, prostitutes and that kind of thing. And I just sat there and just

shook my head because like you had this woman who worked all her life and effectively worked two jobs for the last majority of it, and then when it comes for her time that she needs help, it was, you know, literally nothing there. They're like, no, look, we're going to pay for a nurse to come down and take your blood pressure and make sure you're right. And that was it, and they haven't been reading her. She was the Royal Adelaide for about three weeks and then went home to pass away and her husband had to stay down here and he had to pay full towed odds to get a place to reside. 01:41:58 Speaker 2: Yeah, for accommodation. It just seems like some of this money is going to all the wrong places and then the people who really needed weren't receiving what they actually needed. 01:42:08 Speaker 1: Yeah. 01:42:09 Speaker 22: Yeah, well that's exactly the way, well the way in my opinion, it worked out, because it would have been a couple of days after she passed away. I rang up the healthman's office, and you know, I didn't let fly, but I sort of made my feelings well known. And to be fair, though, they did get in touch with my mate's father, you know, they offered out their condolences and all that, which is all well and good, But what we basically said something needs to change because that lady should never ever, ever have been left in that position, you know, considering she worked, she lived here a lot, contributed, done everything right, and then she was left you know, by struggling, you know, and it's just not right, It really really isn't had to be so many other people in that position, and to be fair, other people a hell of a lot worse off as well, you know, and they just can't get the help. But yet we can pay for someone to go get their palms, right, I mean, you know that's what it's come to. Then I think it's a great thing that the government storm is cracking down on this. 01:43:14 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, I agree with you on that one. Matt. Thank you for sharing. If you take care of you too, see you. And Yeah, Unfortunately, that story is one of many about the ndis just not working in the way I think it was originally intended or the way that we as a community expect it to work. You understand the need for a national Disability insurance scheme, but you want those people who rely on the money for their cost of living, for their well being, or like maps friends mum, for their end of life care. You want those people to be the ones receiving the money that they need to be able to live a full and quality life. And you don't want to see and hear about dodgy providers ripping people off. I heard one story one caller into Graham Goodings this morning saying they needed especially designed shoes and the shoes were three hundred dollars. The minute they mentioned ndis the shoes, the price the shoes jacked up to nine hundred dollars. I mean that is outrageous and that is why the system wasn't working. And that's where you know, I think most people would look at these changes and say, Okay, well the system needs a change. There does need to be an overhaul. But is there enough focus in these changes on cracking down on those dodgy providers that we hear about all too often, To people who are charging one hundred and ninety dollars to mow someone's patch of lawn in the front of their house. I mean, you'd want it to be an acre of grass for it to cost that much money. There's just so many dodgy providers out there, and they don't have to be registered unfortunately, So I hope there's more of a focus on that in and around these changes that were announced to the NDIS yesterday. It's time for the three thirty news now and after that we'll continue our discussion about neutral toilets. So if you've got some thoughts eight double two three double O double O. 01:45:05 Speaker 1: Five double A Afternoons with Stacy Lee. 01:45:10 Speaker 2: Twenty six minutes to four here on five double A. Don't forget where on the live stream on Facebook and YouTube, So jump on there to say hi. You can give me a call on eight double two to three double O double OW. I still have a double pass to go and see the State Opera's performance of Cinderella to give away best caller today. We'll get that double pass. You can check it out Stateopera dot com dot Au. But as I say, I've got a double pass to give away the savo and another one tomorrow, so make sure you stay listening. You can send me your thoughts on the text line as well. Zero double four eight zero eight thirteen ninety five. And Anthony has done that. He's got a bit of a traffic update for people heading north turning right off Port Road onto Park Terrace. There are three semis blocking the inside lane as as soon as you get onto Park Terrace, so take care for the time being. Wow, that might cause a bit of an issue, particularly as we head into the drive home, the peak hour drive home. Thank you for that update, Anthony. We appreciate it. And if there's anything happening near you, you can always let us know. You are our eyes and ears on the ground, so any traffic updates. We haven't had a burst water mane in a while. Whatever's happening near you, let us know about it eight double two three double O double OW. But we are talking about gender neutral toilets today. This is a topic that comes up from time to time and it's come up again because it's a proposal as part of a draft update to the National Construction Code, which the Australian Building Codes Board has had opened since February, and one of the recommendations is for half of the toilets in some new public buildings, stadiums, shopping centers, some off blocks, half of the toilets in those buildings should be gender neutral under this proposal. I'm asking you how you feel about that? On eight double two three double O double O. Getting lots of text messages this person Marty and Salisbury Heights. I asked the question about how do you do it when you're a father to young girls, because that's

a question that my husband and I pondered not too long ago having a daughter. Now, Marty says, good afternoon, Stacy. I always took my young daughters to the disabled toilet and waited outside. It was a question of privacy. Also as an electrician visiting male and female toilets, females can be as bad as the males. Yes, because I said, I have an issue with this, mainly because of the cleanliness. I don't love going to a toilet after a man. But as someone else on the text line put it, you can deal with it when it's a family member, when it's a stranger, perhaps most women don't want to deal with it, and that has come up in some polling that's been released by the Australian Christian Lobby and Michelle Purse is the chief executive. She joins you now, good afternoon, Michelle, thanks for your time. 01:48:08 Speaker 8: Yeah, great to be with you to talk about this here. 01:48:11 Speaker 2: So, as I say, you've done some polling on this, what does it show? 01:48:15 Speaker 27: Yeah, you know, unsurprisingly, it shows that an overwhelming majority of Australians are against replacing single sex bathrooms with all gender bathrooms. Eighty seven percent of men and women that were surveyed in an independent poll revealed those results. And then if you drill it down further, ninety percent of women that were surveyed were against it and their primary concerns was first for privacy and second for safety. So but you know, this comes at the same time that the National Construction Code are pushing for changes, and state and territory governments actually have one more week to accept or reject these changes, and that's school any public building, sporting complexes, shopping centers. It's really important that people make their boys heard if they don't agree that their single sex bathrooms should be replaced. 01:49:07 Speaker 2: One thread that keeps coming up on our text line this afternoon from women is cleanliness concerns. Did that come up in your polling at all? 01:49:16 Speaker 27: Definitely, cleanliness is high up there with their concern, But I think it's important to note that the safety concern is even more prominent than that. And you know, people might not say that allowed on your talk line because you know, we don't want to paint men all men with the same brush. 01:49:34 Speaker 12: Of course not. 01:49:35 Speaker 27: But when women use the toilet, especially they're doing things undignified behind the cubicle. They want to make sure that they're in a place that's women only and where they feel safe, and they have every right to feel that way. 01:49:50 Speaker 2: I did get a text message from Pete which was interesting. He said, I think it depends on the definition of gender neutral. Are we talking about a setup of a a group of disabled toilets like a toilet and a sink per cubicle, or are we talking a urinal and cubicle in the same room for multiple people to use at the same time. So did the code and this suggestion outline further what it would

be. 01:50:18 Speaker 27: Yeah, I mean it's a little technical, but essentially fifty percent what they're proposing is fifty percent of male and female toilets will be replaced with all gender toilets. It's a voluntary code, but the point is is that the women who are using these toilets, it's not voluntary for them. That's the point that we keep pushing. But the code says it will be flaughter ceiling kind of separation with a sink in the basin, with common areas. But I don't think that's enough to satisfy the safety concerns and the privacy concerns that women have. Even when you're what, you know, you walk out into the common area, it's usually a place for you. You know, you might bump into the other ladies or have a chat, and you don't want boys in those rooms. And especially when you think of places like schools and you know, sporting complexes, you know where you know the women often have conversations and want to feel safe in that common area as well, yeah, and look. 01:51:19 Speaker 2: Not to get into, you know, too much toilet talk, but I've been in women's bathrooms before where someone says, I've run out of toilet paper over here, can you pass some under the under the cubicle or you know, sharing hygiene products. If someone has run out, they don't have any in their handbag with them, and you just wouldn't feel as comfortable calling out and asking for toilet paper if you weren't sure who was next to you. 01:51:43 Speaker 27: Yeah, that's that's exactly right. I think we sort of take for granted how much we do value our single sex spaces, and this is a real ideological push to redefine or remove the importance of the separation of male and females at times when you need that kind of of having that single sex space. 01:52:03 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, interesting that they say. 01:52:05 Speaker 7: So. 01:52:06 Speaker 2: Just back to Pete's text message, he said, if it's a single person use like a disabled toilet is at the moment, then I have no issues being gender neutral. If it's shared at the same time, then that he thinks that's questionable. So I'm just wanted to go back to what their proposal is. You said it's floor to ceiling walls, and there would be a toilet and a basin in there, so it is like your own little toilet. But then you open the door and you come out to a shared space. So what I imagine that there are mirrors and I don't know other hands rise or something in the care area. 01:52:38 Speaker 27: But the feedback that we're getting, and you know your listeners and you might have seen this yourself, is that these all gender bathrooms are popping up all over the place and they're not actually a wall to floor to ceiling separations. Often they don't have a basin in the toilet, so they're going further than what the code even allows. And so you know, we're calling on the government to to not even consider an all gender bathroom until that developers have fulfilled the minimum number of male and female toilets. They should never be

replaced, you know, instead of single sex spaces. If they want all gender toilets, then have that above the minimum amount of male and female. And because there's those safety privacy concerns, but as you said, also those cleanliness concerns. You'll be going into a toilet that a male has just used. I'm trying to teach my sons not to pee on the seat, but not not all think to their kids that. So you know, we have these cleanliness issues as well that women are very concerned about. Particularly. 01:53:41 Speaker 21: Yeah. 01:53:41 Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure. Someone else said something similar on the text line training. I always told my boys, the toilet area is not a drip tray, says this text us. So yeah, it is hard, and I've commented on that, saying, you know, it's it's tolerable when you share a toilet with family members of the opposite gender. It's not as tolerable when they're strange. Yeah, exactly, people do weird things when they're in a public place, and you know, there's all of a sudden, maybe not as much scrutiny on how they're leaving the toilet. They just go, okay, I'll leave it like that, see ya. 01:54:13 Speaker 27: Yeah, that's right. I mean it's very it's very serious. I know it's comical at the same time, but women are concerned about their safety and we really do need to take seriously the protection of female only spaces. This is an ideology that's been pushed at many levels. There's court cases at the moment where women are trying to assert their right to a biological female only space. And so we need law and policy to be really clear about a what spaces are designed and purposed for women only and even for men only as well. 01:54:50 Speaker 2: In that case, from what I was reading, the board that has proposed this change has said it was intending to prioritize female use of toilets and serving while serving all users. And when I saw that, I thought, Okay, maybe they have a point there in terms of would it open up more toileting options for women? Because I don't know about you, but every time you see a line outside a toilet, it's always the women's toilet, you know. You rarely see a line outside the men's. So maybe it would give women, you know, more options to go in and come out quicker after doing their business, and that might be a good thing. 01:55:30 Speaker 27: Yeah, I think I've heard from a friend who saw one of these. We went to the theater. 01:55:35 Speaker 5: There was an all gender. 01:55:35 Speaker 27: Toilet and there was male and female toilets as well. The line for the women's toilet during the break in the theater show that she was watching was out the door. Nobody was using actually men, some men were using the all gender toilets and no women wanted to use them. So I don't think it's actually going to solve that problem. It's going to make it worse because they're going to half the number of female only toilets. I think that's the Australian Building Codes border just saying that to be politically correct. But this is an agenda that's been pushed by a group called Parlor, who campaigns for the rights of trans people, and what they've said is this is just the first step, and indicating that voluntary is just a first step, indicating that that could mean that the next step is mandatory, or that all toilets will be replaced with all genders. So I don't think we can both be naive to the fact that this is an attempt at social re engineering and we've got to be wary. 01:56:35 Speaker 2: Of that, right, Okay, Well, before I let you go, I just have a tip here on the text line from Brian. If you're training your son, he says, best way to toilet train little boys, throw an orange pingpong ball in the toilet there aim will be perfect forever. 01:56:50 Speaker 27: I'll try that one. 01:56:51 Speaker 2: Thanks Brian, thanks for your time this afternoon. Michelle appreciate it. 01:56:55 Speaker 6: Thanks very much. 01:56:56 Speaker 2: That's Michelle Purse, the Chief executive of the Australian Crew Lobby and yet still getting lots of text messages from you. This person says, good on you, Michelle. I totally agree and thank you for the interview. And this person I used to clean a busy nightclub in the Southern Suburbs. Most definitely the ladies were worse. That's Jeff in port Nor longer. Thank you, Jeff. I think it to Pantna. I read that one out already. I agree with Dave. Someone says and females can leave a stinky toilet as well. Thank you Brett in Kings Park. As a bloke who has some standards when it comes to the seat orientation and cleanliness when leaving the lavatory, I totally agree men's toilets are pretty gross. I don't blame you. Stacy and Father Joan brought up the cleanliness of toilets in Singapore and parts of Asia, and Karen says Father Joan mentioned Singapore Airport lose being clean. Everything in Singapore is clean. I'm a clean freak and it's just so good. 01:57:56 Speaker 11: Oh. 01:57:56 Speaker 2: I'm so with you, Karen. I love how clean Singapore is. I wish we could be like that. And this person also comments on that point, the Malaysians and the Chinese would never allow any of these toilets in their country ever. Keep your thoughts coming. Eight double two three double O double oh is the number, or you can send me a text zero double four eight zero eight thirteen ninety five. We've got some more time for calls before we find out from Rowe and Timmy g what they've got coming up on the sports show five. 01:58:24 Speaker 13: Double A Afternoons with Stacy Lee. 01:58:30 Speaker 2: Ten minutes to four Here on five double A eight double two to three double O double oh is the number to call to have your say on any of the matters we've been discussing today, whether it's about the private health insurance rebate changes for over sixty fives. Maybe you've seen the Michael Jackson movie and you've got a review eight double two to three double O double oh. The review from Shane A. Bassett, our movie analyst was scathing earlier today. Or maybe

you've got some thoughts on gender neutral toilets. On the text line says at certain public events like the horse racing, women have no issues using the male toilets when the women's are full. Yeah, maybe if there's a big line up. I've seen if there is a big line at the women's some girls going in there, and that's fine for them if they're happy to do that. Yeah, take your point, Peter and Westlakes. I've just had a brief read of your message, Peter, I'm just going to censor some of it, he says. Gender neutral toilets would eliminate some of the fun us blokes have after a few drinks when we're all lined up side by side in front of the urin all the conversations can be very funny and I'm just gonna not read the rest of it. Thank you. Though you've ended it with a hashtag silly toilet humor, so yes, I would agree with that sentiment. And look, we're talking about a serious issue here, but at the end of the day, we're talking about lose, so I get it. There's some fun to be had in there. Eight double two to three doublow is the number to call to keep your thoughts coming, or you can text them through zero double four eight zero eight thirteen ninety five. Wojo says, would the orange umpa lumpa sign off on unisex toilets? Thank you? Wanta Joe No, I don't think this would be something an issue happening in America at the moment. We were talking about petrol earlier, and Kathy says, the petrol prices have gone down, so people are buying more petrol because of the price, and then they'll go to stage three and only allow us to buy forty dollars worth of petrol. This is another scam. I don't trust these people. Okay, I think maybe you're overthinking it a little bit personally, but yeah, I have seen more people buying petrol because the price is down. When I saw the price last week, I definitely went in. I didn't need to fill up my car, it didn't need it, but I definitely stopped and topped it up because I thought, who knows how long these prices will be where they are under two dollars. I mean, it's a bit ridiculs, isn't it to see petrol for a dollar ninety and think that's a bargain considering what we were used to. But it's the case. It's the case. At the moment, Rowe and Timmy g are on after four and Timmy G's in. 02:01:11 Speaker 31: The studio, Hello, this get a stace? 02:01:13 Speaker 30: Good to see you and hear you, and yeah, I saw it for a dollar seventy five port Raus dollars seventy five. 02:01:20 Speaker 31: And you're right, why am I getting excited about it? It's ridiculous, isn't that. 02:01:25 Speaker 2: I mean, think, Oh good, I'll get a bargain here. 02:01:27 Speaker 30: I think RAWI just said, it's been fifty four days since the Iran conflict started, So you go here we are, you know, not even two months later, and we're getting excited about a dollar seventy five. 02:01:38 Speaker 31: Petrol where we would have had a heart attack, you know, two months ago. 02:01:41 Speaker 30: So yeah, those sort of things do sort of bring brings it back into perspective, but it is a significant drop from what it was, which is hopefully heading in the right direction, as renee Go would say, So yes, a big show tonight. But I did hear you talking earlier about rubbish? Oh yeah, and I love talking rubbish. 02:02:02 Speaker 2: Yes, I know, I hear every afternoon. 02:02:05 Speaker 31: Quite o fake. And you have one thing that really grants my geeth? Oh go on, tell me it's my wife. 02:02:14 Speaker 30: Oh yeah, and she's work fortunately for another five minutes, so I could do this without her love. But yeah, the yellow bin, right, she will just chuck in a whole cardboard cut she won't flatten. 02:02:30 Speaker 31: Oh that does my head. 02:02:33 Speaker 30: When I open it to put more recycling stuff in there, I see full boxes. No, no, no, So I've got to reach in, get all those full boxes out and rip them down and flaten them into a flat pack and then put them back. 02:02:45 Speaker 2: Controversial doing the right thing? Well yeah, controversial thought. You're you're definitely doing the right thing. But I also think you're doing your task. That's a blue that's a blue task. In my house sometimes we have we have some pink and we have some blue jobs. All right, yep, the flattening of boxes is a blue job. 02:03:00 Speaker 31: You'd be no good for those gender neutral tools. 02:03:03 Speaker 1: No, what are you going to do there? 02:03:06 Speaker 2: I like I like my toilets pink, and my boxes flat boxes flattened by my husband. 02:03:11 Speaker 31: I don't know why. 02:03:12 Speaker 2: There are some things that are my job and some things that are his. 02:03:14 Speaker 31: Also, the fridge has got to flatten the boxes. 02:03:16 Speaker 2: Yep, that's the fridge. 02:03:17 Speaker 13: It's okay, but leave the boxes out. 02:03:19 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, so she puts them. She put and you've got to reach in, and. 02:03:23 Speaker 31: I've got to reach in, get them out and then flatten them, no, no, no. 02:03:26 Speaker 2: To at least she's putting them in the right bin. 02:03:29 Speaker 30: I guess it's a start. It's something she's non compliant. Let's say that as a person. 02:03:36 Speaker 2: Oh, she's not list if she got out of work earlier, I think you're in trouble myself. 02:03:46 Speaker 31: Yes, the Big Crow's night. 02:03:47 Speaker 30: We've got Jack Homs, the defensive coach, coming on. Riley Brian our regular guess coming on as well. Now thirty six is fans. We've got the GM basketball Matt Western coming on tonight. We need to know who's in, who's out, and the like, because we know that DJ our co captain has left. So I'm interested in it seems like in basketball world, it seems like only they get one year contracts, that's what it seems like. It seems like year by year that's it because it's such a fluid situation, especially with a lot of the imports. 02:04:18 Speaker 31: That they can just go somewhere else the next year. 02:04:22 Speaker 30: So I'm interested to see whether any long term deals have been struck, even if it's just with our locals. 02:04:28 Speaker 31: So I'm going to find that out. 02:04:30 Speaker 30: Brian Tyler's coming on for seven AFL, which is huge. They got four massive games including the ANZAC Day one this weekend that they'll be covering off as well. And we've got is He Hodson who's our Reds women's team. They're in the finals, so they elimination final v. Brisbane which they have to win and then they go into a semi which gives you two chances. So you've got to play a home in a way, but got to win this sudden death. 02:04:56 Speaker 2: One so that the Lady Reds do it? 02:04:58 Speaker 13: Do we still call them text. 02:05:00 Speaker 31: One night and they said no, you're not allowed to call them. 02:05:03 Speaker 2: Oh I liked that name. 02:05:04 Speaker 31: I loved it, but I've cut it out of me. 02:05:07 Speaker 2: Okay, sorry, okay, sorry to put it back. 02:05:09 Speaker 31: Yeah, yes, maybe I should ask I like it? She likes it, not ease. He's a great player and a great chat so I will have her on as well. 02:05:18 Speaker 30: So it should be a big night too. And I don't know if you heard Michael VOSSI came out pretty strong defending his people in the likes. I will discuss that as well, So it should be a big night. Your calls and texts and yeah. 02:05:30 Speaker 2: Yeah, Ripper looking forward to it. Should ask be t as well. If he's still eating salted cucumbers. 02:05:35 Speaker 31: Well I saw that, Yes, yes, the great he loved. 02:05:39 Speaker 2: Chris Jummers salted cucumbers. Maybe he's I reckon he liked it that much. I reckon he'd be adding it into his regular dietary. 02:05:47 Speaker 31: Well you know what made me laugh was what do you do with it? 02:05:49 Speaker 2: I just put salt on, just literally sulted cucumber. 02:05:54 Speaker 31: It was almost the classic line from the Castle, wasn't it. What do you call this? Laugh chicken? 02:06:01 Speaker 7: What do you do? 02:06:02 Speaker 2: What you do with it? Looking forward to it? Rowie and Timmy g On after four? Thank you for all of your calls and your text messages. Today, I think the State Opera tickets have to go to Adele in Royston Park, which lives with four men. Says they've got good toilet habits. But Adele, just for your mere service of living with four men and sharing toilets with them, I am giving you the tickets. So congratulations, you're off to seat Cinderella. I will talk to you at one o'clock tomorrow. It's time for me to get out of here now