ABOUT THIS EPISODE

It’s the 100th episode of After the Jump!!! It’s also the final episode of the 2014 season. Tune in as Grace Bonney shares the lessons she’s learned over the course of hosting After the Jump. The prevailing theme is balance – and any person working in a creative field can find true inspiration in this radio recap. Happy holidays!



“There is no perfect balance. Life and work are always a series of back and forth adjustments and constant game of checks and balances.” [2:30]


–Grace Bonney on After the Jump

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IN THIS EPISODE

TRANSCRIPT

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00:00:25hey and welcome to after the gym I'm your host Grace Bonnie and today I'm coming to you from Roberto's and Bushwick Brooklyn you can listen to after the jump every Wednesday at 1 p.m. on Heritage Radio Network. Org or subscribe and download the podcast on iTunes anytime today marks the 100th episode of after the gym 2014 season has two years of Hosting this show has provided me with some of the greatest learning lessons inspiration and advice for both my life and work and a way that I really could never have I ever again this show as a personal project I identified one of my biggest weakness is interviews and wanted to throw myself into the deep end of a situation where I would have no choice but to improve their skills or to discover once and for all the interviews just weren't my thing but what I discovered was not
00:01:20I was at my left and I'd only interviewing people but then I really thrived and grew from those one-on-one interactions and conversations in a way that I just wasn't getting from working online so don't get me wrong my first love will always be the internet but these afternoons start right here in this tiny shipping container radio station have been some of the most important and enlightening of my life so far so for the last show of the season I decided to look back at all 100 shows and share the 10 biggest lessons I've learned these lessons have nothing to do with hosting a show but instead have everything to do with learning to be a better business owner and more compassionate person a better listener and endless ways to learn how to connect better with the people around me and all of us
00:02:08what is the things that struck me the most over the course of 100 shows with how inspired I was by the working parents I had the pleasure of interviewing from Meg Mateo Lasko and Lorraine avera's weight at 2 Crystal Disneyland GP Tran working artists that have to balance their love of family with their love of art have a set of challenges that I can't even begin to understand from those challenges and their honesty and openness and discussing them I learned my first big lesson which was there is no Perfect Balance life and work are always a series of back-and-forth adjustments and a constant game of checks and balances but it's human nature to want to find some sort of final places balance where you've reached your perfect state of existence and everything will be this way forever I told myself for years that I just worked harder if I ate more green things if I got more sleep and I found more time to run I would get there but what I've learned is that there doesn't exist and that's actually a great thing
00:03:08what does exist is the knowledge and understanding that life will always always be a series of adjustments there will be days where your work ones out over family or where General Life obligations but there will be days also where your family and life went out over work and any other responsibilities you have at the office and that's totally okay none of us can predict what life and work will bring in the future but we can know this it will always change and if we imagine ourselves like a boat on an occasional e r us see we can better visualize and understand that the only way to deal with those rough patches is to roll with them and to just adjust as we go along and perhaps most importantly to learn to cut ourselves a little bit of slack none of us have the secrets to having it all so working on being more compassionate with ourselves and with others will help us we happier and ultimately more fulfilling lives in the long run
00:04:06the second lesson I learned was about the importance of slowing down and taking a moment to really look at what's happening around you most of the gas I've had the pleasure of interviewing or happy people. More hourly than others but in general I would say the vast majority of people that seem to have a good head on their shoulders and smiled more often than not on off the air I would try to get to the core of what made these people are allowed them to feel the sense of lightness and awareness to I admired it all boils down to lesson number to which is live in the moment every single moment enjoy where you are right now and appreciate it because every stage of growth and achievement has its own new set of challenges and stress
00:04:52my secret life at every airport is buying all of the gossip and the Business magazines I tear through the gossip magazines immediately of course and then I move on to Ink Fast Company Business Insider at anything else and get my hands on and one of the things that's always struck me most about the advice that I read in those magazines is how much they emphasized future living future living is to me when you focus more on the promise of something coming way down the road then you do what's right in front of you right now and while I certainly see the importance of planning for your future doing that too much make it easy to lose track of what you've already built what you've already achieved and what you have around you right now I've been able to interview people of all stages of their careers and if there's one thing I've noticed about all of them it's that they missed the earlier stages of their work and they wish they paid more attention to those beginning days as much as the big dream goals down the road those ones that have been able to find this out
00:05:52being present now seem to be much happier and better able to take on the challenges and opportunities that come their way
00:06:00lesson number three pass today with two of my favorite guests of all time. All them and Genevieve Gorder both were instrumental in my career and life goals without knowing it and even before we met and talked they both inspired me with their passion and excitement for their work and life and from them I learned lesson number three always keep learning
00:06:23I think rest of the crucial part of any successful work and life equation but the idea of resting especially on your laurels for too long is something that I worry about constantly the world especially online is always changing sometimes faster than I can even keep Pace with but even if I don't keep up or stay ahead of every curve I can make sure that I am always growing and learning more not only that learning new skills and ideas help with work not only knowing that learning new skills and ideas help with work in the quality of work you produce But continuing to learn keeps your mind open and helps you stay creative and be inspired by Innovation and fresh ideas you might otherwise have missed out on and most importantly to me it gives me the chance to fail again why would anyone want that well because I think we learn more but we're not best at something and we're not the tip top of our game and we're uncomfortable we learn a lot about ourselves of course it's a
00:07:23starting to build a set of skills that serve you well and work without you even thinking about them but when you introduce something totally new and foreign to your mind and your hands it lets you ReDiscover just how much RAM you have to grow and change it also lets you learn another valuable lesson which is there is never only one right way to do something the best solution sometimes, when something doesn't go as expected I don't want to play a clip from the show with Genevieve Gorder which ran just a couple months ago but she talked about a home renovation problem that didn't go quite right and what she learned from it that's what you had to say
00:08:00what's refreshing I think I learned a lot about how to be a better designer again we all need to do that whatever we do for a living every couple years it's like the filters and see to come in you need to evolve and grow and learn otherwise you're bored and you should be doing it anyway moments where you know me like that happened you made them create a better project and maybe you would even imagine that I think one of my favorite examples is there was a bit of a wallpaper mishap and your daughter's bedroom light was at the color palette that you wanted but you guys worked with it I remember you saying on but the end result was something even better that you had thought of Designing
00:08:48there are really two kinds of designers in the world there's the architects who come into design where they are more of a science-based approach to what we call it sketched out what is elevated there are multiple plans even before sometimes they get to the space and then there's the other designer which I definitely is the artist that comes into design where it's much more about the feeling of things I won't even start designing until I see where the light hits that certain place on your floor where the couch is going to be I need to feel it I don't sit there all day by myself and feel it before I spit something that doesn't always work on television next the viewer because I designed from the heart
00:09:41I think that comment from Genevieve and especially ending with the idea of Designing from the heart and keeping an open mind is something I so admire about her about designers like total them and so many people that I had on air this year the idea that you're never at a perfect place you will never know the only right way to do something you will always be learning and always be making a mistake and then changing based on that it's something that I find not scary but actually quite empowering
00:10:08lesson number for get the heart of what I've learned from this Radio Show in the larger sense and in the smaller sense from every single gas that has ever joined me on air that lesson is that your personal story is Meaningful important and valid
00:10:25I was surprised by how many guests were surprised when I ask them to join me on there several people felt their stories are businesses weren't interesting enough that I of course disagreed once they were on air it is always clear to me how important each person story is at the end of every show most people would be surprised by themselves by how much they have learned from talking about their own lives and businesses too many truly great ideas voices and art are halted or delayed because of self-doubt I think we all know what it feels like and I can say that after 100 episodes of listening to a wide range of people that every single story matters the only thing scarier than sharing your story is what the rest of the world will be missing out on if they don't hear yours
00:11:13before we cut you a break I want to share the fifth lesson out of 10 which was inspired by a Reason show about the future of print magazines after talking with Paul Lowe and Paul the towel of sweet Paul Michelle Outland gather journal and Janine van ghoul uppercase magazine it became clear that even the most dream of jobs require a lot of passion and hard work so number 5 is to remember that no job is perfect so be sure that you are passionate about what you do because every job has a day where it feels like a slug I want to play to quick clips from that show the first from Michelle Outland talking about what you need to do to have a job like this
00:11:53take us less than the and or advice I could give is just be super passionate about what you're going to do cuz it's going to consume your life so if it's not something you love don't do it I don't think the advice can get any simpler than that and Paul Echo that with his advice later in the show
00:12:16you know you have to have to be able to clone yourself from Shipping anything to going over the contract to answering emails there's so many things but the most important thing
00:12:36you said you have to have a passion and then you also have to have a very unique voice because why are
00:12:44why are people going to buy a magazine
00:12:48what's going to be in it something I go back to over and over again I think so many of us who work in the crate is the old struggle with feeling like are we doing enough for somebody else doing better than we are when will I get to that place I think someone else is that I want to be but in reality even the people who have the job that we all dream about have to do the same things we don't want to do they all had to do with accounting they all have to deal with shipping they all have to pay taxes there is no perfect job and I think the more that we think about that the better able will be to accept the things that come with even the most fun part of her dream job everyone has a moment where the thing they thought they always wanted to achieve can be tough so keep that in mind that I think it'll help all of us appreciate the jobs we have on a daily basis a little bit more after a quick break I'll be right back to share at my final Five Lessons of the Year stay tuned
00:14:34hey welcome back to you after the jump I'm your host Grace Bonnie and today for my final show of the Season which also happens to be the 100th episode I'm counting down the top 10 lessons I've learned from two years of our lesson number 6 has to do with one of the most recent shows I did I found myself respired and Rhian spired and ways I had not expected I was joined by multimedia artist on the song maker Ivan cash and he connected the idea of sometimes being lonely and maybe even a little bit sad to take all those feelings and think about them at the actual creative force behind truly great artwork that connects people and bring them together I want to play a quick clip from that show
00:15:15and then my projects have an element of human connection and that's a very broad umbrella but I mentioned being a loner and I think that loneliness is a really important
00:15:29it's a feeling or an aspect of life that doesn't get talked about enough but I think it's something that we all experience and some level and maybe we can do a good job avoiding it and pushing it away and not feeling it too often but I think that it's just something that that that motivates people that motivates me and I think it is beautiful I can be dark but I think the counter that has intimacy and feeling really close to someone
00:15:57I think I have an interview really made me rethink the way I think about the under town of so much of the artwork that I love and I think a lot of was produced and that has to do with feeling lonely or feeling different from other people and I love the way that Ivan turns that whole concept on its head and makes me think about the way that actually leads to Connection in from this I learned the biggest lesson number 6 which is human interaction at the core of everything we do as artists as writers and as makers we may feel disconnected at points but by sharing our voices with other people we are able to truly connect with them
00:16:32what's the number 7 connect to one of the biggest struggles I have a someone working in the creative Community which is whether or not what I do on a daily basis makes a difference in the bigger sense of the world and of the word difference like everybody else I've been reading the news with a heavy heart lately and feeling overwhelmed by frustration and anger and then when I go back to writing a post about wallpaper I feel the contrast between those two things so sharply but after 100 shows I've seen firsthand with the power of design can truly be at a smaller personal level while I realize that Art and Design aren't survival Necessities so many of those pieces are directly connected to the financial survival of members of our community what may strike me is a post about just another product can turn into a sale that turns into a rent check for someone working to start their own business
00:17:23that's an interaction I try to think about every now and then when I'm feeling too down on the idea of working in something decorative but in a larger sense and I learned an episode 85 with John Hancock of Firebelly design and Charlene King design has a power to make a real difference in the world and larger issues of justice and survival and all you have to do is show up I want to play a quick clip from John Hancock when she talks about how you can make a difference as an artist
00:17:51I know it's easier said than done but they go out and do it but I think about your time and spending time with somebody who I think is a great way to do that
00:18:19Donna someone who spent so much of her life and of her work dedicating her artistic skills to helping out people who need that but she's doing pro bono work or bringing awareness to causes which is what Charlene King of the other cast from the show also did they are great examples of how design and people with artistic skills can use those to give a voice to give a face and to give power to movements that connect to Greater issues of politics survival and Justice and that for me was one of the most important things I took away from the second season of after the jump which was the design and people who are creative can do such powerful things to make a difference in the world
00:18:57lesson number 8 connect to one of my favorite episodes that I've ever done which was episode number 73 where I spoke with Catherine Fortunato of Lizzie Fortunato jewels and Claire mazur of of a kind is one of the co-owners that lesson was understanding what goes into the things that surround you at home is so crucial and important much like the food movement that swept the country people Now understand why it's so incredibly important to think about what goes into what you eat how it was made and how the people who raise or agree that food are treated that's not necessarily a concept that come all the way over to fashion and to the Home Design World Catherine and Claire had a truly brilliant show where they talked about all of the very real difficulties and costs that go into great independent work from how many trips you have to take to the factory to make sure that things are being made the way that you want to buying materials are ethically sourced and produced to really supporting the designers by charging
00:19:57said that they need to make a living wage understanding all of those things that go into the objects that surround you will make you change the way that you look at not only your home but the world around you in general and I think understanding that lesson and applying that to everything I think about when I go into a situation to buy a single object really change the way that I shop from now on I have far fewer things in my home in my life and I ever have not primarily because I think about Katherine and Claire every time I go to buy something hearing their stories and how difficult it is to really make a living and support somebody who is paying workers at the cleat who's sourcing things at the clay and he's really taking the time to emphasize quality over quantity it really affects the way you will shop so if you haven't listened to episode number 73 I strongly suggest that you do an urge you to it is a really wonderful show and kind of get the core of not just what I do hear it after the jump but what we do at design sponge because I think that truly
00:20:57special and high-quality work is worth the cost and it changes the way you interact with those pieces in your home and will change the way that you look at them for the rest of your life
00:21:07episode number 9 has to do with an issue that I still wish I had touchdown a more this season and have been trying to do on the site more which is it is our community's responsibility to show and celebrate both the diversity of our community and to try to drive up the inclusiveness that exists in the shoulders of laid back home and also who teaches an incredible exposure program for Children at Risk who want to learn different skills that have to do with graphic design or art Direction art work she is an incredible inspiration to me and she was the guest on episode number 9 on Tina talked about how important it is to really make sure that all events in the creative Community are not only inclusive of people of all colors all genders and of any other identification to make sure that their stories are hurt just as much as being included so I want to play a quick clip from her show
00:22:03especially conferences I think it's almost whoever organizes the conference they can do whatever they want but I think it's almost their responsibility to make it as diverse as possible not simply just as far as color goes but just the conversation and there's richness in the conversation when you have people from background like I believe they do themselves as a service if I look at for one I've pitched I'm all Summit in general and part of it was to one of my pictures were talking about diversity of design or just showing the diversity and design and it wasn't simply you know black and white or something like that but there's such a richness and knowing about people's different backgrounds know if Tina is went on to describe this concept at Great length but I wanted to run that short clip because it's something that sort of plays in the back of my mind all the time I think as summer
00:23:03who works in the media and of design I've all-too-often falling back on the crotch of thinking that it's too difficult to find me things and should not be part of the responsibility of artist to make sure their work is noun that I have learned how incredibly wrong I was about that idea and Tina has been instrumental in really making me change the way I think about things I think she had a great point when Tina said if you want to see different perspective you have to look in different places and really putting that Donuts on myself and hopefully to everyone else in the community that has a part and giving people a platform and exposure to think about our responsibility to make sure we represent not just the people that are easiest to find his work is a magazines in people who have the money to hire a publicist to get their work out there it's really our responsibility to make sure that we go and sign the people who are making great work to show the full face of our community and not just the people that we see everyday and use papers and in that contains
00:23:59my final lesson is some some some some what do I think it was one of the most fun shows of the year it was one of the shows that I got the most emails about I request to have back which was episode number 60 with interior designer John call the lesson I learned from John was to not be afraid to have an opinion and to stand behind it we all Define ourselves in those moments and those moments are what make people believe in us and our brand I want to run a quick quick clip from John show where he really sort of live that concept for me right now. I've had some opportunities to talk to people on quite frankly in educating the public is what excites me my company is just meant to be a simple interior it will have time to grow that you can move into it through all phases of your life no matter who you are and you can start that when you're 19 and an end till the end of time you're going to be happy with it and
00:24:59types of things and trying to find out and that's why today man so much was a blast for a number of reasons but I really love that he wasn't afraid to take a stance to have an opinion to see what the results of that would be into really encourage people to see the world through his eyes and through the lens that he works with at his Design Studio I think so many people when they get in front of a microphone or get in front of an interviewer tend to fall back online that are comfortable or safe and John's entire interview with a wonderful example of why that's a terrible idea and being honest and being open to have an opinion is a wonderful saying I don't think I've gotten a response too strong to a show as I did with John because Jon really wasn't afraid to say the things he truly felt in to stand behind them and that something is not just to interior design
00:25:59I'm not justifying artist that to everyone listening I so often and afraid to take a stance with something and then when I sit in front of somebody who has the courage to do that it really inspires me to really make my voice be heard and stand behind the things that I really believe in so for me that's the biggest lesson I taken away from this and it's the one I land with today but before we go I want to talk about a couple things first the lessons that I've learned here are going to stay with me for the rest of my life and I are going to continue to inform and inspire me and I truly hope that they will do the same for all of you listening if you follow me on design sponge email last week that my wife Julie and I just bought and moved into a new but very very old man Upstate New York so I'm going to be taking some of the advice I've gotten on air here and cut back a little bit on some of my work projects to make some more time to work on our home and the life that we are building together so I'm going to be taking a break from after the jump next season to see what lessons restoring a 150 year old old home
00:26:59teach me Miss show has truly been a gift and such a joy to host the conversations I've had on air here as well as the conversations I've had in person through email with listeners have truly been some of the most important and meaningful moments in my life so far so I want to end my thinking everyone who is taking the time and travel to talk with me here and on air for their advice their honesty and for sharing their stories with us here on there they will continue to inform and inspire me for years to come I want to thank Heritage Radio for hosting this show and giving me the creative freedom to discuss any every topic I have ever wanted no questions asked thank you I want to thank the screaming females for letting me use one of my favorite songs in the entire world as the theme song to this show I think I get questions about that theme song every week it's the screaming females look them up they're amazing but most of all I want to thank all of you for listening although we may not see each other face-to-face I really felt like each of these shows with something more into
00:27:59personal that I've ever done online so many of you have come up and told me how you listen in your car is alone in your work studios are while you're getting dinner ready for your family that was very private moments are special and sacred to me and it's been such an honor to be a part of them thank you for welcoming welcoming me into your home your car's and your Studios until the next time we meet best wishes for a safe and happy holiday and truly fulfilling challenging and exciting New Year thank you so much for listening
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