Full Transcript for Episode 310: Leaving NVIDIA for... ?

system. 00:02:28.719 --> 00:02:29.759 We'll fix that later, folks. 00:02:33.280 --> 00:02:37.120 We're now on my Android operating system, and so look at that. 00:02:37.280 --> 00:02:39.120 October 30th is a Friday. 00:02:39.199 --> 00:02:46.400 So maybe that'll be so if if to if two days from now is the episode 306, then we've got 7, 8, 9, 10. 00:02:46.479 --> 00:02:51.759 So this potentially is gonna be episode 310, which you just heard, or maybe I'll edit it so you didn't hear. 00:02:52.000 --> 00:02:56.000 What is I have big news that I had a kid, and now Bryce has big news as well. 00:02:56.159 --> 00:02:57.520 Is it that you have a kid too? 00:02:57.840 --> 00:03:00.159 No, no, it is not that I have a kid too. 00:03:00.479 --> 00:03:03.039 I am going to work at Modal. 00:03:03.759 --> 00:03:04.000 Yes. 00:03:04.400 --> 00:03:06.000 Well, first of all, congratulations. 00:03:06.159 --> 00:03:06.960 This is very exciting. 00:03:07.039 --> 00:03:08.639 And I actually didn't know the name of the company. 00:03:08.719 --> 00:03:13.199 I may or may not have known that you had been other company curious. 00:03:13.439 --> 00:03:19.919 And I think this was the one that, like, the last time I talked to you, I think I told you I was I don't think I said that this was the company I was going to. 00:03:20.080 --> 00:03:26.240 But yes, I am going to Modal, which is the cloud of the future, the cloud of the Agentia. 00:03:26.800 --> 00:03:43.120 And I think actually, ironically, the the what we just recorded, talking about sort of my experience as uh, you know, in HBC and sort of that I've always done my computing remotely, explains why I believe deeply in Modal's mission. 00:03:43.199 --> 00:03:53.199 That modal provides you with infrastructure as a service, but it's presented to you in a AI-first fashion. 00:03:53.439 --> 00:04:01.120 So it gives you the building blocks that you need to build software in the agentic era. 00:04:01.360 --> 00:04:17.120 That's to build like, you know, AI systems, to deploy inference, etc., to build evals, to do training, post-training, and just to get access to CPU and GPU sandboxes in the way that makes sense in this era. 00:04:17.360 --> 00:04:33.040 And I think when I look at the workflows that we have today, like the way that I work today, you know, I've been doing all this auto research, and there are so many pain points in the cloud resources that I'm using today. 00:04:33.279 --> 00:04:39.680 Pain points around like, you know, I spin up all these ephemeral agents, like how do I store their state? 00:04:39.839 --> 00:04:48.480 You know, how do I, I really only want to get like a GPU node for a few seconds at a time when I'm in this auto research loop. 00:04:48.639 --> 00:04:54.319 And I really only, there's only a few places where I need like a big CPU node for a few seconds at a time. 00:04:54.480 --> 00:05:00.319 But like the traditional cloud ecosystem doesn't really support this well. 00:05:00.560 --> 00:05:08.720 And modal, modal's a platform I've used in the past, both for their notebook product, which is very cool, and their uh their sandbox product. 00:05:08.879 --> 00:05:11.439 I've always had a great respect for them, and they're very unique. 00:05:11.600 --> 00:05:24.240 Nobody else has GPU sandboxes on the market, really, where you can on demand go and get, you know, rent a few seconds of a B200 time with incredibly fast startups and stops. 00:05:24.560 --> 00:05:28.480 Yeah, I just I very deeply believe in the product and in the people. 00:05:28.720 --> 00:05:35.600 And they have uh they have the a design sense and and principles that I really align with. 00:05:35.839 --> 00:05:38.480 Yeah, it just it just felt like it was time. 00:05:38.639 --> 00:05:40.079 Like it was such a unique opportunity. 00:05:40.240 --> 00:05:41.839 I was I'm very happy at NVIDIA. 00:05:42.240 --> 00:05:46.160 Like, you know, I feel like I'm in the best place at NVIDIA that I've ever been at. 00:05:46.319 --> 00:05:57.920 So it's weird for me to be leaving NVIDIA when like I I'm in the perfect role, I have an amazing VP that I report to now, the teams that I work with are all great, but yet I'm leaving. 00:05:58.079 --> 00:06:10.079 And I think partially one of the reasons that I'm leaving is that I feel like things are in such a great place at NVIDIA, and um, and I am so happy where I am at NVIDIA, and it's kind of like okay, I want to go find some new challenge now. 00:06:10.160 --> 00:06:14.959 Like I can leave now and not feel like the house is gonna burn down. 00:06:15.120 --> 00:06:17.360 So it's in no way because I'm unhappy with NVIDIA. 00:06:17.600 --> 00:06:21.279 I love NVIDIA, but uh I've always wanted to go try a startup. 00:06:21.519 --> 00:06:27.199 This is like the perfect time life-wise, you know, for me to go do that for a variety of reasons. 00:06:27.680 --> 00:06:34.800 My girlfriend now can't travel as much um as she used to, and uh, so that's changing our lifestyle a little bit. 00:06:35.279 --> 00:06:38.639 So uh I'll probably be at less conferences because of that. 00:06:38.879 --> 00:06:51.199 And uh just some other reasons that just made it like like I I came to the conclusion that if I was gonna go, I like I either needed to decide just stay at NVIDIA and like work at NVIDIA for the rest of your life, or go try something new. 00:06:51.279 --> 00:06:52.560 And I'm gonna go try something new. 00:06:52.800 --> 00:06:54.160 Alright, I have a thousand questions. 00:06:54.319 --> 00:06:59.519 Well, we don't have time for a thousand, but I'll ask the their priority queue sorted, or that doesn't even make any sense. 00:06:59.600 --> 00:07:06.639 They're just sorted in terms of the ones I'm I'm most curious, or maybe they're actually a little bit sorted by the ones that are easiest to answer. 00:07:06.720 --> 00:07:09.120 So I already looked it up while Bryce was chatting. 00:07:09.199 --> 00:07:12.079 So they're current, they're private

company, headquartered in New York. 00:07:12.319 --> 00:07:14.399 So did that play a role in the decision? 00:07:14.720 --> 00:07:28.720 Um less than you'd think I will be in the office more in my new role, which is both exciting and it's different, you know, it's both exciting and and something that you know makes me a little nervous. 00:07:28.959 --> 00:07:33.279 I think anytime you take a new job, even if it's a really exciting job, you're always nervous, right? 00:07:33.439 --> 00:07:35.439 Because it's like a new challenge. 00:07:35.600 --> 00:07:41.680 And to some degree, like I feel like the fact that I feel nervous is like a plus. 00:07:42.160 --> 00:07:47.360 Because if you want to grow as a person, you have to put yourself into situations that are uncomfortable. 00:07:47.519 --> 00:07:58.160 You have to put yourself into situations that challenge you, that where you you maybe don't know all the answers, where you you're in a different environment than you used to be in. 00:07:58.240 --> 00:07:59.519 Because like that's how you learn and grow. 00:07:59.600 --> 00:08:07.839 And so like that's part of the appeal to me, is like, oh, I'm gonna go do this thing where not only am I gonna be working in a different job, I'm gonna be working in a different type of environment than I had been. 00:08:07.920 --> 00:08:14.720 I've spent a lot of time at NVIDIA, and now I'm gonna go work at a smaller company and a company that has a lot more of an in-office culture. 00:08:14.879 --> 00:08:17.600 And I think that's I think that's gonna be good for me. 00:08:17.759 --> 00:08:19.839 It's gonna teach me to be more flexible. 00:08:20.000 --> 00:08:22.879 So I'm excited, I'm excited, and I am also nervous. 00:08:23.040 --> 00:08:25.439 Like, how am I gonna how am I gonna deal with that? 00:08:25.519 --> 00:08:26.000 You know? 00:08:26.240 --> 00:08:28.000 And uh I think I will adapt. 00:08:28.240 --> 00:08:32.399 I mean, I'm excited too, like, because I get to like vicariously live through you, you know. 00:08:32.480 --> 00:08:38.159 Like, I mean, everyone, regardless of how they're feeling at their company, always thinks about, you know, you know, is the grass greener, etc. 00:08:38.320 --> 00:08:38.480 etc. 00:08:38.720 --> 00:08:40.559 And don't get me wrong, I love working for NVIDIA. 00:08:40.799 --> 00:08:42.559 It's one of the best companies in the world. 00:08:42.639 --> 00:08:48.000 Like they do surveys by external companies, and it always gets ranked as an amazing place to work. 00:08:48.879 --> 00:08:50.240 I think it's the best company in the world. 00:08:50.480 --> 00:08:57.120 Yeah, well, you know, I uh the people are gonna say we're biased because we work here, but uh, not me not that's true. 00:08:57.279 --> 00:09:07.919 Oh, well, I was gonna say, like, that's awesome that you don't work here in a sense that now you can't be accused, but then I was like, ah no, you still get accused of being because you're still in the same the same uh industry. 00:09:08.320 --> 00:09:13.519 But to answer your question about like whether it being in New York played a role, I not not as much as I think people would think. 00:09:13.759 --> 00:09:33.519 Do you have an official title or is it so they convinced me that what I should do is I should come in and spend two to three months sort of getting the lay of the land, and then we could sort of make a decision about what problems would be best for me to go and tackle, you know, like where am I gonna, you know, have the greatest value. 00:09:33.679 --> 00:09:45.679 And I I was it's not something that occurred to me at first, but um I, you know, when somebody presents me with a good idea, I, you know, uh willing to admit I was wrong. 00:09:45.759 --> 00:09:46.799 So I think that's what I'm gonna do. 00:09:46.879 --> 00:09:48.559 I think that that's the thing that makes the most sense. 00:09:48.720 --> 00:09:52.320 So I think I'm gonna come in as a member of technical staff at first. 00:09:52.639 --> 00:09:57.919 And I like what my portfolio is, I don't think we have an answer yet. 00:09:58.240 --> 00:10:08.879 Probably, you know, given my background, probably gonna be working on the you know, an inference side of things, on uh optimization, on CUDA stuff. 00:10:09.120 --> 00:10:19.200 But there's actually, I think one of the nice things about modal, one of the things that's so attractive to me about modal is there's so many parts of the product that I could imagine contributing to. 00:10:19.440 --> 00:10:26.480 You know, the there's the the inference part of modal's business where I think I could contribute. 00:10:26.720 --> 00:10:45.919 There's the you know GPU as a platform, GPU sandbox is part of the product, and then there's the agentic part of the product, all of which are things that I I've spent a lot of time working on, these things, and I have a lot of thoughts about like how we could build the platform of the future for this agentic era. 00:10:46.240 --> 00:10:47.200 Yeah, it's very exciting. 00:10:47.279 --> 00:10:58.720 I'm I'm mocking back a little bit of our having guests on all the time now because I feel like we're gonna have to reserve a certain cadence of uh you just telling us, like taking us along the startup journey. 00:10:59.120 --> 00:11:01.039 Well, I mean, my question is how are you feeling? 00:11:01.279 --> 00:11:02.080 I'm feeling good. 00:11:02.240 --> 00:11:06.879 You know, I just had a chat with my boss at NVIDIA, and he was sad to see me go, but you know, supportive. 00:11:06.960 --> 00:11:08.720 And that's what that's one of the beautiful things about NVIDIA. 00:11:08.960 --> 00:11:11.360 You said Luis, is that the guy that came from October? 00:11:11.440 --> 00:11:11.919 Yeah, yeah. 00:11:12.320 --> 00:11:12.639 AI? 00:11:13.200 --> 00:11:14.480 I didn't realize you were reporting to him. 00:11:14.639 --> 00:11:15.120 Yeah, yeah. 00:11:15.200 --> 00:11:15.600 Uh yeah. 00:11:15.759 --> 00:11:19.679 Octoai, who was in

this space of like inference providers back in the day. 00:11:19.919 --> 00:11:24.000 Yeah, but no, he I mean, he's great, and uh he was uh he was very supportive. 00:11:24.159 --> 00:11:25.360 I feel good, you know. 00:11:25.519 --> 00:11:27.200 It was a tough decision to come to. 00:11:27.360 --> 00:11:31.360 I when I came to NVIDIA, the job before NVIDIA, I was not happy. 00:11:31.840 --> 00:11:41.360 I I I didn't feel like appreciated uh or understood, and the stuff I was working on was not necessarily the things that I that were like valued by the work. 00:11:41.519 --> 00:11:49.679 And um I I had a manager who I just didn't get or I had a project lead that I just didn't get like along with well. 00:11:49.840 --> 00:11:56.080 And it was very obvious that it was time for me to leave, and like NVIDIA just like 100% felt like the right place. 00:11:56.240 --> 00:11:59.679 So I didn't have any questions about you know the decision at the time. 00:11:59.840 --> 00:12:03.039 It was it was just a question of like do I like where do I go? 00:12:03.279 --> 00:12:26.000 In this case, it was really different because I'm very happy at NVIDIA, and so it wasn't just a question of like picking between options, it there weren't really options, it was just like this one, you know, do I go to this new company, take this very unique opportunity, take a risk, go try a startup for a while, see what that's like, or do I um stay at NVIDIA? 00:12:26.480 --> 00:12:33.679 And uh, you know, it I feel like I don't want to spend my entire career working at one company. 00:12:33.840 --> 00:12:46.320 As much as I love an Nvidia, I want to have a perspective of what other cultures are like, and I feel like that that will help me grow as a person in ways that I never could just being at one company. 00:12:46.559 --> 00:12:58.159 So this has not been a thing, it's a thing that I've always sort of wanted to be able to do to go to a startup, but there's not been a good time in my life to do it before now, and this is like the perfect time to do it. 00:12:58.480 --> 00:13:08.960 And so the timing just like happened to be right, and then this, you know, incredible opportunity came up, and I really believe in the product. 00:13:09.200 --> 00:13:15.039 I I really believe in the the design language of the company, and and I'll explain that in two ways. 00:13:15.200 --> 00:13:17.759 That was honestly the thing that sold me on modal. 00:13:17.919 --> 00:13:30.879 If you look at any material that modal puts out there, there is so much care and thought into how it is presented that I think is comparable only to two other companies that I deeply respect, which is NVIDIA and Apple. 00:13:31.200 --> 00:13:33.840 That there's just a lot of thought into the presentation of things. 00:13:34.000 --> 00:13:38.240 And fundamentally, I am a factory that spits out slide decks. 00:13:38.480 --> 00:13:41.200 I care a lot about the presentation of things. 00:13:41.440 --> 00:13:52.159 But like it says something to you about the culture of a company when you can see how much care goes into the way that the company presents itself to the public. 00:13:52.399 --> 00:13:57.039 It it it speaks to the culture of quality in all things that they do. 00:13:57.360 --> 00:14:12.559 And I think that's true both on the you know, the outward-facing presentation side of things, but also when you talk to people at Modal about the platform that they've built, they've built it as a series of composable building blocks that interoperate with each other. 00:14:12.879 --> 00:14:18.799 And I think that the the what's the word that I would be looking for here? 00:14:19.200 --> 00:14:22.720 The pr it's maybe about the principled nature, yeah. 00:14:23.279 --> 00:14:29.360 The principled nature of their design, I think is really a competitive advantage. 00:14:29.519 --> 00:14:40.879 Um I think it's very powerful that they put a lot of thought into how they build these building blocks and how things connect with each other and build on top of each other and how the platform composes. 00:14:41.440 --> 00:14:48.879 And, you know, as a as a programming language person, as a library design person, that deeply resonates with me. 00:14:49.039 --> 00:14:49.519 All right. 00:14:49.679 --> 00:14:54.399 And that's really the thing that makes me want to go there is I just think it's a really good platform. 00:14:54.720 --> 00:15:00.080 I I saw this talk at Ghost Em Paris where there was this fellow from what's the company that makes Minix? 00:15:00.960 --> 00:15:10.559 It's one of the Chinese labs, and he was giving a talk about the the latest minimax model, and one of the things he said is, one of the things I love about working here is I have unlimited tokens. 00:15:10.720 --> 00:15:13.440 I have all the tokens that I I could possibly want. 00:15:13.679 --> 00:15:19.039 And I my girlfriend uses the tokens, and I use the tokens for all the things, I never have to worry about it. 00:15:19.200 --> 00:15:21.919 And I was like, you know, that's actually like a very interesting. 00:15:22.080 --> 00:15:24.639 It's a very interesting like perspective. 00:15:24.799 --> 00:15:37.279 And, you know, like there's something nice about like being at the at a place that produces the product that you would want to use all the time, because then like you get to dog food a lot more. 00:15:37.440 --> 00:15:48.159 And like modal is a product that in my like day-to-day work on CUDA, like almost every day my life would be easier if I could just use modal for everything. 00:15:48.320 --> 00:15:50.559 And now I will just be able to use modal for everything. 00:15:50.720 --> 00:15:51.440 So it's great. 00:15:51.600 --> 00:16:03.679 Like, I'm sure like one of the first thing I'll do when I'm getting setting up there is I will set up all of the agentic stuff that I do, both personal and professional, like on Modal's ecosystem. 00:16:04.000 --> 00:16:11.279 And it will solve all of the current

challenges that I have with uh my like agentic workflows. 00:16:11.679 --> 00:16:25.360 I uh the the amount that I spend in tokens at NVIDIA is you know far higher than what I would use on Modal for just like raw compute, right? 00:16:25.519 --> 00:16:26.240 If I was. 00:16:26.399 --> 00:16:34.000 But you know, NVIDIA has its own internal inference, you know, ecosystem, its own internal access to compute, etc. 00:16:34.320 --> 00:16:38.000 And if I like that's the thing that I have to use if I want to go down the easy path. 00:16:38.080 --> 00:16:41.360 And if I wanted to use some external vendor, I'd have to go get approval for that. 00:16:41.519 --> 00:16:50.799 And so there's a nice thing about like if you're at the company, like you don't have to go and get approval to you to like use your own thing, right? 00:16:51.039 --> 00:16:55.679 Like there's sure there's some limit, but I'm sure that whatever the limit is, we'll be fine. 00:16:56.000 --> 00:16:56.639 That's very nice. 00:16:56.799 --> 00:16:58.080 What did uh what did everybody say? 00:16:58.639 --> 00:17:05.039 Um and my manager was I think saddened to see me uh leave, that he was really enjoying working with me. 00:17:05.119 --> 00:17:07.039 And honestly, I've really enjoyed working with him. 00:17:07.119 --> 00:17:14.240 And that is one of the things that makes me saddest about leaving NVIDIA is uh I wish we'd had more time to work together. 00:17:14.559 --> 00:17:16.079 But uh everybody was supportive. 00:17:16.240 --> 00:17:26.720 That's one of the great things about NVIDIA, is I think when people do decide to leave NVIDIA, we're very supportive of the growth of people who work at NVIDIA, you know. 00:17:27.519 --> 00:17:32.000 Like sometimes the the right move for somebody is to go somewhere else. 00:17:32.240 --> 00:17:38.720 And I think that the company's very good about, you know, if if some obviously if it's, you know, we would prefer people stay. 00:17:38.799 --> 00:17:44.240 If there's something that we can do, if somebody's unhappy, if there's some problem, you know, we we try to find a way to fix it. 00:17:44.319 --> 00:17:56.319 But if it's just that somebody's like, I've made this decision, you know, I think I want to go, I think we're pretty good about being supportive about that and celebrating the the growth of people even as they depart, NVIDIA. 00:17:56.640 --> 00:18:03.279 You know, there's like there's like a question, whenever you're like, you know, mentoring or advising someone, there's like two questions. 00:18:03.359 --> 00:18:06.640 There's like, what's the best thing to help this person personally grow? 00:18:06.720 --> 00:18:09.119 And what's the thing that you know helps the company the most? 00:18:09.200 --> 00:18:12.720 And I think NVIDIA does a really good job of striking a good balance there. 00:18:12.960 --> 00:18:15.039 Yeah, not a lot of companies do that, to be honest. 00:18:15.200 --> 00:18:18.240 Although probably the bigger the company, the better in general. 00:18:18.480 --> 00:18:19.200 Yeah, that's awesome, man. 00:18:19.279 --> 00:18:20.400 How's Ramona feel about it? 00:18:20.559 --> 00:18:21.279 Excited, worried? 00:18:21.599 --> 00:18:31.519 I think Ramona is glad that she no longer has to have me incessantly asking her for her opinion and showing her slide decks that I made on the topic. 00:18:31.599 --> 00:18:33.599 I did make slide decks on this. 00:18:34.799 --> 00:18:36.079 Is she the only one that saw them? 00:18:36.559 --> 00:18:38.880 No, my mother also my mother also saw the slide decks. 00:18:39.200 --> 00:18:39.680 What was it? 00:18:39.759 --> 00:18:43.599 Uh like uh a big life change soliciting feedback? 00:18:43.680 --> 00:18:44.400 Or yeah, yeah. 00:18:44.480 --> 00:18:45.839 It's just Is it more for yourself? 00:18:45.920 --> 00:18:47.519 Like you giving a presentation helps you. 00:18:48.000 --> 00:18:49.680 It was more it was more for myself, I think. 00:18:49.759 --> 00:19:07.680 I think it was more for myself, but it was also to like help understand like it's some there's sometimes some things that just like making a chart and like you know, a table or something, presenting it in a nice way is like the easiest way to to to express the information to people to get their input, which I did, and I think I I think it helped. 00:19:07.759 --> 00:19:22.000 I got sort of the the one of the questions that both my mother and Ramona asked me, without realizing that the other person had asked it, is would you take pride in representing this new company? 00:19:22.160 --> 00:19:33.680 Like, would you would you wear should they my mom specifically asked me, like, you know, if you go to this new company, if you go to modal and you and you you go to a conference and you're wearing a modal t-shirt, would you be proud of that? 00:19:33.839 --> 00:19:35.200 And my answer is yeah. 00:19:35.440 --> 00:19:58.640 And and it were it strikes me that when I first went to NVIDIA for my like pre-interview with Chris Lamb, I had lunch with Olivier afterwards, and I noticed that a large chunk of the employees, and this is in 2017, a large chunk of the employees on just some random Tuesday or whatever were wearing NVIDIA t-shirts around the office. 00:19:58.720 --> 00:20:00.319 It was almost like a uniform. 00:20:00.640 --> 00:20:03.119 And nobody had nobody required that. 00:20:03.279 --> 00:20:05.680 You know, it was just a choice that people made. 00:20:05.920 --> 00:20:11.039 And um, you know, NVIDIA never, we didn't have free lunch at NVIDIA, right? 00:20:11.200 --> 00:20:15.039 We didn't have candy bars, we didn't have snack bars, you know. 00:20:15.359 --> 00:20:26.480 People were there because they believed in the mission and they believed in the company, and the company took care of people, and people were proud to work there and were proud of the product. 00:20:26.720 --> 00:20:42.400 And uh, yeah, and my both my girlfriend and my mother recognized that I take a lot of pride

in where I work and in the prestige that comes with where I work, and they both like wanted to wanted to know would I feel the same prestige going to Modal? 00:20:42.480 --> 00:20:43.519 And the answer was yes. 00:20:43.759 --> 00:20:47.839 But you know, when I first started working at NVIDIA, nobody had heard of NVIDIA, you know? 00:20:48.079 --> 00:20:53.519 That did not change the level of pride that I felt in the work that I was doing. 00:20:53.680 --> 00:21:00.480 That I felt it was a unique company building a unique product that I could not really go anywhere else to do. 00:21:00.640 --> 00:21:02.640 And I feel the same way about Modal. 00:21:02.960 --> 00:21:09.920 That I think they have a unique set of technologies, and I don't think there's anywhere else I could go to do the things that I'm gonna do there. 00:21:10.240 --> 00:21:19.839 And Ramona was asking, like, you know, if you go to a conference and and people don't know, you know, the name of the company that you're working at, like, how are you gonna feel? 00:21:19.920 --> 00:21:22.240 And I was like, that actually could be relieving. 00:21:22.480 --> 00:21:34.400 I go to so many conferences, and people are always, you know, I say that I'm at at NVIDIA and um people ooh and ah or ask about a job, and it'll kind of be nice to be a little more anonymous. 00:21:34.720 --> 00:21:35.839 How was the interview process? 00:21:36.000 --> 00:21:39.119 Was it uh I gave it was like a present, it was a research presentation. 00:21:39.279 --> 00:21:42.480 So you you give it instead of like technical questions, you just give a talk. 00:21:42.640 --> 00:21:50.319 I gave my talk, my auto research talk, the Insight Factory talk, which will be my last talk at NVIDIA that I will give the week that I'm in HQ. 00:21:50.799 --> 00:21:51.279 When's that? 00:21:51.359 --> 00:21:52.000 October, I think? 00:21:52.160 --> 00:21:53.039 Yeah, yeah, October. 00:21:53.200 --> 00:21:57.920 So basically so I'm going to PyCon Taipei to Kia in a very Bryce style. 00:21:58.079 --> 00:22:00.559 My last week at NVIDIA, I will be traveling. 00:22:00.720 --> 00:22:02.720 So I'm going to PyCon Taipei. 00:22:02.799 --> 00:22:04.960 I'm visiting you on the way to PyCon Taipei. 00:22:05.039 --> 00:22:20.240 So I'm going New York, New York to Toronto, staying there for the day, Toronto to Hong Kong, Hong Kong to Taipei, and then I go Taipei to Vancouver, stay there for the night, Vancouver to SFO, and and then Wait, wait, say say this again? 00:22:20.319 --> 00:22:22.559 You go from what what's your flight schedule? 00:22:22.720 --> 00:22:25.200 You you're going to Vancouver from Toronto, or that's from the back from the world? 00:22:25.440 --> 00:22:26.400 That's that's that's from Taiwan. 00:22:26.559 --> 00:22:49.599 Taiwan to Vancouver, Vancouver to Cal to Silicon Valley, and then I'm gonna be there for the week for the colonels fa uh for the fast colonels face to face, and then and then from there I will like that'll be my last week, and then I'll go home and I might my my final day at NVIDIA may be a Monday, just so I have a little time to like do like my final expense report. 00:22:51.680 --> 00:22:52.240 Yeah. 00:22:52.480 --> 00:22:57.680 And then uh I'm gonna take a week to organize the house and I'll start at modal like November 2nd. 00:22:57.839 --> 00:23:00.240 Yeah, and they they um so I'm gonna start there. 00:23:00.319 --> 00:23:06.559 I'm gonna I'm reporting into the CTO um and co-founder, and um I'm gonna take it Is that someone I know or I don't think so. 00:23:06.640 --> 00:23:08.000 His name is Osh Akshot. 00:23:09.119 --> 00:23:09.839 Yes, Akshot. 00:23:10.079 --> 00:23:11.440 Um I think I'm saying that correctly. 00:23:11.599 --> 00:23:15.039 And um then I'm gonna figure out, you know, where I can come useful. 00:23:15.359 --> 00:23:21.680 But yeah, I'm really excited about the like leadership and mentorship opportunities there. 00:23:21.839 --> 00:23:22.000 Yeah. 00:23:22.319 --> 00:23:25.200 Yeah, I mean you've always been doing that at you know at every stage in your career. 00:23:25.279 --> 00:23:27.519 So it's also like it's fun to go to a company. 00:23:27.680 --> 00:23:35.200 Uh like one of the appeals of the of going to a startup to me is the employee count at NVIDIA is not gonna double, you know, in a year. 00:23:35.359 --> 00:23:39.599 The employee count at a startup like modal, it might double in a year and then it might double again. 00:23:39.680 --> 00:23:50.799 And like there's something fun about being at a company early, getting to like establish call the culture and get to influence the shape in the direction and like see it grow so rapidly like that. 00:23:50.960 --> 00:23:52.480 Like, I think that's gonna be a lot of fun. 00:23:52.720 --> 00:23:53.039 All right. 00:23:53.200 --> 00:23:55.599 Uh yeah, I gotta I gotta run later, man. 00:23:55.759 --> 00:23:56.000 All right. 00:23:56.160 --> 00:23:56.960 Congrats, buddy. 00:23:57.119 --> 00:23:57.519 Thank you. 00:23:57.759 --> 00:24:07.519 Be sure to check these show notes either in your podcast app or at adspthepodcast.com for links to anything we mentioned in today's episode, as well as a link to a GitHub discussion where you can leave thoughts, comments, and questions. 00:24:07.680 --> 00:24:08.319 Thanks for listening. 00:24:08.400 --> 00:24:10.400 We hope you enjoyed and have a great day. 00:24:10.880 --> 00:24:13.599 Low quality, high quality. 00:24:13.759 --> 00:24:16.079 That is the tagline of our podcast. 00:24:16.319 --> 00:24:17.279 It's not the tagline. 00:24:17.440 --> 00:24:20.240 Our tagline is chaos with sprinkles of information.