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Hello everyone, and welcome to a Wave of Bliss on
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iHeartRadio and Ruckus Avenue Radio. Nian Here you're a host
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for a Wave of Bliss where we explore timeless wisdom
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and powerful conversations inspired by Sudguru, and where we look
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at life's bigger questions in a way that can help
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us live more consciously, more joyfully, and ultimately create a
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more conscious planet. Today's episode is called Save Soil.
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Now.
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Soil may not be something that we think about every day,
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but it's the very foundation of life on this planet.
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It's what sustains our food, our ecosystems, and our future.
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And yet did you know that over half of the
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world's agricultural soil is already degraded. In fact, soils in
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a America have degraded at such an alarming rate that
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you would need to eat eight oranges today in order
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to get the same nutrients that you got from one
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orange in nineteen twenty. Now, clearly this isn't just an
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environmental issue, it's also a human issue. This Save Soil movement,
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launched by Sudgurdu in twenty twenty two, is a global
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people powered effort to raise awareness and push for policy
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changes that protect soil health for generations to come. It's
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a movement that has reached over four billion people, going
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beyond borders, politics and ideologies. In just a moment, we'll
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hear Suthgurdu in conversation with Trevor Noah on The Daily
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Show where they explore this issue. And after that, we'll
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hear Suthgurdu dive deeper into what is happening and how
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saving the soil can address a number of environmental issues
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that we face. Later in the episode, I'll be joined
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by a dedicated volunteer in Save Soil movement as we
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go behind the scenes at how the movement came together
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to mobilize millions and how the Governor of California responded
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when learning about Save Soil. So stay with us. This
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is more than a conversation. This is a wave of bliss.
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And now Sud the Guru.
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You're listening to bruck Us Avenue Bradio Avenue available now
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on the free iHeartRadio app.
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SA Guru, Welcome to the Data Show. Wonderful you see.
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Now this is weird for me because we tried to
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start this interview and then we had a technical issue,
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and now we're starting the interview again. And now I'm like,
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am I being as authentic as I could be with
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you as a guru? Or is this in and of
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itself inauthentic?
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You know, just be yourself. There's nothing called authentic. Nobody
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knows what's that authentic because human beings that are consequence
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of a thousand things they've.
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Picked up all over. Man, that's deep impressions. Right, We're
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gonna have a good time. I can tell we're gonna
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have a really good time.
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By the way, I woke up today a lot unhappier
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than I woke up yesterday because I had to do
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all the research for our interview, and I knew that
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this war in Russia, I knew that there is You
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know that we're facing a climate crisis, and then now,
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thanks to you, I know that we also are facing
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a soil crisis, where some people are estimating that if
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we do nothing in fifty years time, we may not
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be able to grow anything because we may run out
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of soil, which, forgive my ignorance, I do not know
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that soil is even something that we could run out of.
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The thing is this has happened in the last fifty
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two hundred years of industrialized farming, that the organic content
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in the soil is going away because there's no replenishment.
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To replenish the soil, we either need, you know, leaves
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and vegetative matter or animal waste. Both of them have
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disappeared from the farms. We thought we could do everything
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with the machines. Machines can plow, machines can do the
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work that animals and human beings were doing, but organic.
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Content cannot come from the machine.
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It has to come from vegetative or animal waste,
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and
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that is not there. Because of that, one must understand.
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If you add organic content to sand, it becomes soil.
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If you take away organic content from soil, it becomes sand.
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So right now, desertification is one of the most serious problems.
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As you said, fifty years or sixty years time after that,
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there's not enough soil to grow crops. But the more
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important thing is by twenty thirty five to twenty forty,
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they're expecting that we will grow forty percent less food
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than what we are growing right now, and our populations
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will be over nine billion. That's not a world you
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want to live in. That's not a world where you
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want to leave your children. So we need to act now.
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Why it's very important to act now and institute or
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enshrining this in our policy. Is on an average, according
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to UNFAO, on an average, twenty seven thousand species of.
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Microbes are going extinct per year.
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And is that because of how we form or is
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that a natural consequence of existence?
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Because there is no organic content for the microps see
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I see as you know today that you cannot even
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digest the food that you eat if there are no
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gut microbioms. Yes, Similarly, in the soil, it is the
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same reflection in a much more complex way. Without the
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microbial activity in the soil, the plants are not able
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to get the necessary nourishment from the soil. So we
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are throwing chemicals and boosting them up, but without needed nourishment.
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On an average, the drop in nourishment in the United
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States from early twentieth century to now is approximately ninety percent.
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Only ten percent is left.
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If you ate one orange in nineteen twenty, you need
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to eat eight oranges today to get the same stuff.
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So that's simply impractical. So we're moving to.
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A place where food production is sliding down gradually. So
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this sliding down will affect ife. Were predicts that by
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twenty thirty five there could be dozens.
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Of civil wars across the world.
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And that is not necessarily in African countries or South America.
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It could be anywhere fell I mean, the World Food
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Program talks about famines around Chicago, Illinois area by twenty
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thirty five.
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This is terrifying, you know, it's I was talking to
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a friend about how before the pandemic, I think there
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was a certain hubris that humans had about everything.
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We just believed it would always go on.
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You hear these doomsday prophecies, or you hear these even
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warnings about the world ending at some port, of humans
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not being able to inhabit the planet. But until the pandemic,
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I feel like we didn't have a tangible example of
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the world's stopping. You know, people would even say, how
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do you stop the world? How can you stop travel?
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How can you stop countries? And now we've seen it,
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and now you're telling.
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Us, no, this is not a doomsday production.
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This is a wake up call because we are at
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a cusp of time that if we do the right
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things right now, in another fifteen to twenty years, we
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can make a significant turnaround. So what are the right
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things to do. We've been pushing this for the last
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two years. We have these programs going for over twenty
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five years in southern India where we have brought in
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ten percent of the farmer's lands under tree cultivation and
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animals so that this ten percent produces enough organic content
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for the remaining ninety percent. So once the organic content
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is about three to six percent, minimum is three to
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six percent. If you raise the organic content to eight
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to ten percent in the soil, your irrigation requirements will
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come down to thirty percent of what it is. Because
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the water holding capacity of organically rich soil is such
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if you raise it to twelve to fifteen percent, your
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irrigation
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To ten to fifteen percent.
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That is, instead of one hundred liters of water, you
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would use fifteen leaders of water for the same crop.
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That's what needs to happen. And this is the same
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story everywhere when it comes to ecology. When it comes
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to soil, our national barriers, racial discriminations, our religions, our costs,
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our creeds, our gender stuff, our you know, political ideologies,
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nothing matters.
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This is a unifying factor.
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If we as a generation of people act now to
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change the necessary policy changes, which is not some rocket science.
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This is something always farmers in the past new but
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we've forgot in the last fifty years.
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Are you getting any science that governments are enthusiastic to
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try and do something about this?
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Say, in the last two years, I've been talking to
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various country heads, various politicians, political parties. We have written
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to seven hundred political parties on the planet to make
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sure that they include soil and ecology as a part
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of their election manifestos, as their political philosophy, whatever they
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believe in, right, left, center, whatever they are. Soil is
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one thing which is a common factor for all of us.
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We're always looking at what devices it's time.
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If you don't understand the consciousness of this cosmos and
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stuff like that, at least you understand you come.
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From the soil, You live off the soil. When you die,
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you go back to the soil. That much you get it.
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What I see is in the last two years.
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That I've been talking to people, everybody knows there is
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a serious problem. Everybody knows what is a solution also,
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But I think it looks like they were all waiting
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for an idiot to beld A cat so here I am,
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I'm sixty five and I'm writing thirty thousand kilometers.
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Must be an idiot, isn't it, Sabur, I could talk
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to you forever.
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And I guess that's why people you come to your
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events and you you know, it's the gatherings. They read
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your books. They want to see what you're going to
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do on a journey of soil. It feels like it
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is yet another thing that we add to our list
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that governments need to do, that people need to do that.
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You know, if we don't do this, it's over. If
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we don't do that, it's over. Not one more thing
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travel No, no, no, I'm saying. It feels like I have
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enough on my hands. I don't have to take this up.
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I've taken this up because as a generation of people,
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if we don't do this now.
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We will regret this. Seriously.
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If you don't ensin it in the policy now, it'll
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get too late if you leave it for another twenty
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thirty years time. This needs to happen now. So we
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want everybody to talk about soil for one hundred days
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in their own terms. If they don't know anything, if
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we will provide a massive amount of information on our website.
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They can pick it up and use it as their own,
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or they can research themselves whichever way they want. If
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they don't know anything else to say, just a save soil.
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Let's make it happen every day. If you send a
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message to somebody, close it with save soil. If you
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call somebody says save soil.
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Save soil.
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It was great sharing to you Save soil, my friend.
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Thank you very much for being here. It's really been
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wonderful having you. For more information on sad Guru's save
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soil movements, all you got to do is visit the
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website below.
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You're listening to Luckless Avenue Preadio.
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Jothie.
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Delighted to have you on. Thank you for being with
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us today.
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This is so exciting I and I always look forward
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to an opportunity to talk about savee soil, and this
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is something that's very near and
dear to my heart.
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So you'll see as we continue on, there's a lot
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of passion that I feel on this topic, so I'm
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very excited to talk about.
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It, Jothie. Many listeners are curious about how these large
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environmental movements start and how they grow. How did you
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first connect with soud Guru's work and what eventually led
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you to volunteering and taking on a leadership role within
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Conscious Planet.
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Well, Nian, this is this is a long journey for
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me to say. I did my first program with Seth
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Gurdu back in two thousand and three. Uh So I've
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been volunteering since then. The first year I didn't volunteer,
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but starting since, I've been volunteering since two thousand and four,
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and it's been such a huge part of my own
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personal growth. You hear this from many volunteers, right that
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volunteering is just it's just so difficult to put into
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words the impact and the profoundness.
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Of that experience.
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And anything that Seth Gurdu has brought has brought that
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same kind of profoundness and the impact that it has
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on human lives has just been incredible. So watching all
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the work that he's been doing over the last couple
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a few decades, you know, three plus decades, and seeing
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all this environmental work from Project Greenhands, when he you know,
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when we set the world record, world Guinness record for
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the most number of trees planted over eight hundred thousand
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in one year. Watching all of this, you know, so
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it was all happening in India, right, and it was great,
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and we could support it. We can donate money, we
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could go see what they're doing, whether it's Project Greenhands
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or got Ery calling. But then when Safe Soil Journey
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and the movement was being planned, there was an opportunity
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for global involvement and they know they asked to see
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if I could help support from the initial aspects of
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supporting the
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jumped at the chance. I was not aware of the
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issues with Soil right. I jumped in because my passion
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was Seth Guru and what he does.
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to me about the dire need, the urgency and the
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projections and what the future can hold, it became something
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that I'm very very passionate about. We need to do something.
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There's such an urgency to this and people are not
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connecting the dats. This seems like something in the future,
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but we have to do it right now. It's not
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like plastics where we can just sit down and come
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together as a civil act. This is something that it
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takes its own time because we're talking asking the earth,
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the soil to regenerate itself. So there's such an urgency
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and there's that's where where my passion comes in.
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Well, that's fantastic, and as you said, it's you know,
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the time is now to act on it. I turned
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back the clock Sethguru has been working forwards regenerating the
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environment for over the last three decades. He took it
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to another level entirely in twenty twenty two when he
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undertook the Save Soil Journey with over now four billion
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people reached worldwide. Now nearly four years later, what's happening
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very much tuned in. During the one hundred days that
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said Gourdu was on this journey, right, we were all
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watching his journey, listening to him speak, whether it was
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in Germany or whether it was in Dubai, and hearing
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all the incredible guests and policymakers and leaders and people speaking.
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the earth buddies has just been incredible to see how
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they've all come together. So we still have the same
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holistic approach that we're looking at with soil Right. We're
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working with farmers in India. We've been having We have
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about over two hundred and fifty thousand farmers that we're
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working with. Some new programs have been initiated with that.
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have transitioned to agraforestry or regeneritive agriculture or they're part
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of the farmer producer organizations, but we've also created what
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sapp groups to be able to support them. We have
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over one hundred thousand farmers on what sapp groups and
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they're manned twelve hours a day, seven days away. So
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we're supporting farmers and we're continuing to grow that. We
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have nurseries that are producing. We have one single site
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nursery that's able to produce eight million saplings and right
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now we're at we're probably about six point five million
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that we're doing. And this is also the same nursery
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is ninety eight percent run by women. So like this,
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we're definitely continuing on. Govey calling is continuing on and
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all of that work is happening. And then we also
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have the awareness aspect right that's the second part of
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what we're doing is creating continuing on with this awareness.
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The journey allowed us because of the digital world that
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we live in live in, with all the events that happen,
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we've been able to reach over four billion people.
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For example, recently, there was a soil of monitoring law
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that Europe just passed. It's a phenomenal thing that's happened
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in Europe. To help support that, we were able to
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get twelve thousand petition signatures over one hundred and sixty
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countries to be able to show them that we support this,
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and our Safe Soil team also helped with the you know,
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with the soul law itself and the monitoring law itself
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and providing inputs at that level.
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When they see that this many people are supporting
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policymakers are listening and they are being feeling like they
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are supported, which is exactly what Seth Goodwa talked about
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as one of the aims for Save Soil. So we
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are have many different initiatives throughout a year, we have
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several different campaigns that are happening. Usually this around maybe
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like March twenty first, which is the Safe Soil Day,
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or maybe it was like Earth Day which is usually
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April twenty second, or World Environment Day, So we have
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different campaigns that happen during that time period.
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We've been going attending the cops for the last several years.
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If you remember, during the journey, Seth good To attended
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COP fifteen and he spoke to all the name there
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and that's where he laid out the three prong strategy
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in that we.
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Need to be working in creating in a revenue stream
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for the farmers.
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We need to have policies in place, and we need
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to be thinking about how to maybe do the carbon
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credit system or the marketplace like this to help support farmers.
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laid out in COP fifteen. But since then we've gone
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to COP twenty eight, We've gone to in Dubai, We've
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gone to COP twenty nine in Azerbaijan and Baku, and
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then we went to COP sixteen, which was the UNCCD
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COP and that was in Riyad, and then just recently
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we were at COP thirty in Brazil and each one
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of these times. We've just been able to garner so
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much awareness around these topics, and not just in the
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mass mainstream, but also with policymakers and making sure those
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that are working on, for example, say climate finance, that
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they think about when they're looking at climate finance, they
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should also be thinking about soil as part of that.
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So a lot of work has gone on to that
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and it's been a lot of fun. I can share
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so many stories now in so you know, you'll have
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to stop me because there's so many wonderful things to
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Well, it's fantastic. And what's striking me is the sheer
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magnitude of the effort and the sheer magnitude of the impact,
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not only as you're talking about all the nations impacted,
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but you think about stakeholders, right, we have farmers, you know,
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we've got policy makers, change makers, scientists, and then of
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course end users and people right that live on the planet.
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Save Soil has reached over four billion people around the world.
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From your vantage point, and this is where I think
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I'm going to I am going to opt in asking
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you about your experience from your vantage point as the
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strategy and operations lead in North America for Conscious Planet,
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which includes Save Soil. What's something that you know, people
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might not see about the scale or complexity of making
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a global ecological movement actually work day to day.
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It is the persistency that's needed.
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Right, people when they first hear about soil, and first
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of all, the just save soil. When people hear that,
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the first thing is like, well, why do we need
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to save soil? And that's a very fundamental question, And
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the discussion starts there, and that's the awareness, right that
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needs to happen, But then the impact from that needs
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to continue. So there's a certain level of persistency I
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could just share, for example, at COP and up to
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this point, the persistency that our volunteers have at COP
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to be able to get the media attention to soil
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health and the soil crisis. They are NonStop working and
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trying to get in front of the journalists to make
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sure that they also give the soil some kind of
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visibility when they're talking about climate, when they're talking about
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any of these aspects. Right, And I'll say proudly that
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in the last four years, because these volunteers have
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persistently been working with the journalists We've had over fourteen
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thousand media articles in the last four years, So that
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right there shows you that's not something that happens overnight,
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but this continuous, you know, just constantly speaking about it,
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making sure that people are aware about it, you know,
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all the different avenues.
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So media is one aspect.
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Social media, I think, you know people can see on
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our Instagram. There's many things that we've been doing, but
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we're also doing things like a webinar. Last year, we
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held two webinars with the set Through Center for Conscious
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Planet as well as other experts too, and we brought
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the attention of eco anxiety and one of the webinars
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because there is a lot of anxiety that children are
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the young adults are feeling right now and even up
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to children because they see this, they see this in
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the news, they hear about this, they actually experience it
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because there's climate crisises that are happening.
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So we did a webinar to talk about this topic
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and what is it the Safe Soil movement can offer
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to those that are feeling this. There's a way to
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be engaged, to be involved, whether you're talking to your neighbors.
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Whether you're talking to your school or your policy makers,
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or maybe posting on social media. There's a certain level
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of engagement and involvement that makes that allows a person
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to feel like they can do something about it. So
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we had this webinar. Then the second webinar that we
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had was connecting soil to food and food to human health.
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I had a conversation with a family friend who is
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a retired physician, and he was asking me what I'm doing.
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He said, you know, as a physician, we talk about
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food and nutrition and how it
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but I never sat down and thought about that soil
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health affects the quality of our food and therefore affects
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human and health. So when I had this conversation, this
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idea came up and said, this is really an issue.
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Many people don't connect that with soil and food. So
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we did this webinar to bring the attention to that aspect.
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It so like this, we're doing things. Volunteers are also
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continuing on They're doing walks, they're going to farmers' markets.
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We have a group of volunteers right now that are
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putting together a whole school curriculum that is going to
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that can be embedded into science, math, arts, you.
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Know, social studies.
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So we do have a lot of things that we're
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working on that we're continuing and keeping the momentum going.
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That's fantastic. And you talked about, you know how, how
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the messaging, how we're creating awareness in a way that's
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making it real for people, right from soil health to
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our food right when you talk to when you bring
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it to that level, all of a sudden, it becomes
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really real. And so I'm good too often speaks about
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soil as a living organism and the very foundation of
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our survival. Where is there a just as you to
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get your personal take on this, was there a personal
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movement or insight that made the urgency of soil health
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really click for you on a personal level?
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children are in their twenties, and this one simple fact
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that by you one is predicting that by twenty fifty
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ninety percent of our soils are going to be degraded,
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but we're going to have nine point two billion people.
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The food crisis.
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That we're going to have at that point and what
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that means and how that translates into not just our
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human our health, but the planet's health, but also civil
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like when we're at that kind of dire situations, how
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our nations are going to be towards each other, how
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is humanity going to be towards each other? And as
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a mother and thinking about this is the future of
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my children, how can we safeguard our future of our children?
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This one simple statement.
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Has really, you know, ignited that passion for me to
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just continue working on this and making sure that there
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is some kind of impact with all the things that
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we're doing.
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Yeah, some of those stats you raised, I mean, my
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eyebrows are raised. I was like, is this actually you know,
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is that what the science says? But that's what the
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science is saying, So it underscores the importance of bringing
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awareness to this.
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It's not like the next future generations or you know,
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my grandchildren or anything like that. We're twenty five years
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from that from now, you know that we're talking about that.
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And even right now, fifty two percent of soils in
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the globally are already degraded.
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Pace at which speed goes or the pace at which
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time goes these days, right, twenty five years is going
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to be here tomorrow like before we know it, right,
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and so taking action now is just so important in
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this process. You know, we've talked about the scale of
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conscious planet and the scale of the safe Soil movement
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this process. In your leadership role, you've interacted with so
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many heads of state, scientists, change makers in the environmental world.
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How have they been personally responding to save soil.
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It's quite interesting because they respond actually quite positively in
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the sense that they're well willing to listen and they're
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willing to really think about, Okay, this is something that
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we need to work towards. Whether it happens or not,
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it's such as a slow process, right when you're talking
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about changing policies, when you're talking about nations coming together.
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But the response from policymakers and like you said, change
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makers is very positive. For example, just this last cop thirty,
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governor from California, right, Governor Newsom was there and he
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did a press conference, and one of our volunteers went
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and spoke to him right after and actually handed one
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of our Safe Soul booklets to talk to him about
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it and he actually just perked up and he's like, yes,
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this is something so important to me. This is so
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important to California, you know, so much of his GDP
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is agriculture based.
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And he sat and he listened to this volunteer.
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And then as he was walking away, one of our
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other volunteers that works in the media also said something
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and he held up the booklet and he said, yes,
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we're doing a lot of work towards.
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This, and we need to continue doing more.
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So just that small interchange, you know, small exchange right
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there in conversation brought about, you know again, awareness, right
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so as policies are making being made, as farm bills
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are happening, things like this, this will stay at top
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of mind for them.
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That's terrific, you know.
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And I and you were.
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Asking me about how things have progressed since Seth Good
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had taken that journey, and just to share it. For example,
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what we've been doing in this space of soil health
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has been recognized by experts and by others as well too.
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So you know, many of you may be familiar with
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the movie Kiss the Ground, and then there's another film
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called Common Ground, and these are both on Amazon Prime
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and they talk about soil health. Kiss the Ground is
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a great way to kind of start an understanding about
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what soil health is. Common Ground talks about how it
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is in the United States. But then they're filming a
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third one it's called ground Swell that's just on a
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global level. But they understand the importance of what we've
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been doing with safe Soil that we are actually going
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to be featured in this film, in this documentary film
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that's going to be released at the end of twenty
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twenty six, And they actually had a film crew come
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out to India to film some of our farmers and
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include their stories in this documentary. And then they've also
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interviewed Seth good Or to include in the documentary as well.
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So now we are at the level that they understand
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there is a certain impact that Safe Soil has been
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able to bring, and there's a certain level of expertise
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that we have with the farmers and what we've been
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doing over the last three decades that is not going
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to be featured in a documentary.
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I think that's that's created just underscores that what we're
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talking about here, the importance of save, save soil and
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soil health is not a one off thing. It's integrated
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into our you know, into our culture, into our mainstream,
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and that's you know, that's that's fantastic. I'm greating. I'm
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glad it's getting that kind of uh, you know, notoriety
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and recognition, you know, Joti working this closely with Seth
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Guru's environmental initiatives. I'd love to hear how you balance
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sort of the you know, the practical or business side,
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you know, with with data, logistics, operations, strategy, global coordination
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with your own you know, inner dimensions of yoga and
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your own growth on this path.
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Yeah, it goes back to what I was saying in
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the beginning nine that volunteering is such a huge part
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of my own spiritual growth when you think about what
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said you says when you offer yourself in a way
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and not think about what about me, anything that I do,
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whether it is working with Safe Soil in this capacity,
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whether it is volunteering at the Aisha Institute in Tennessee,
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whether it's volunteering locally, whether it's volunteering at big programs
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00:30:18.000
like you know, the more recent programs that Sethua has
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been doing, the Ecstasy of Enlightenment type of programs, whatever,
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it is, whatever type of volunteering it is. It's just
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such an opportunity for my own inner growth as well too.
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So the safe Soil has definitely been that, you know,
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connecting with people, connecting with people that are not necessarily
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even know who sud GOODU is, but they're connecting to
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us because of the ecological aspect of it and because
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of the soil aspect of it, and then being with
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them and kind of them seeing what do we bring
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and how are we and then exposing them to who
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sud Good is and all of this stuff just again
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really really within myself just makes me feel so thankful
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that I have this in my life. The grace, the clarity,
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the perception that all these practices have been able to
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allowed us to have so when we have having these conversations,
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we know how to navigate.
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And work with it.
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So all of it is all sad now and it
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really truly does feel like that for me, and it's
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been a huge part of my growth.
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What a great opportunity to have this be you know,
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the you're kind of blending both together, right, so in
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the way I sort of position the question there were
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separate your growth and then you know, taking on this
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leadership role and the global coordination and all of them
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work involved, but you're saying it's kind of one and
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the same, which is so beautiful. So Jothie, for our
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last question, I'm going to bring it back to the
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name of our show. After all, our show is called
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a Wave of Bliss. I'm curious, when do you feel
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most in a state of bliss?
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It's it's when I'm the most receptive to it. It's
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always around us, it's always there, but it's about me
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and where I am within myself is when I can when.
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I experience it.
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It could be in while I'm driving, it could be
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in within my own household and you know, within my
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own space. But it could also be you know, when
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I'm at Aisha institute and sitting in the abode of
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yoga without the yogi or presence, or it could be
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with when I'm sitting with Linga Paidevi Davi. But at
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the end of the day, whether I'm experiencing the bliss
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or not is about how we open and receptive. Am
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I What is my willingness level at that time? And
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that's what I have to keep bringing my focus back
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on to. So it's not any one particular thing. It's
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about am I leaning into this and my surrendering. Am
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I allowing myself to open up and have the willingness
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to receive whatever this is because it's always there.
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It's just me that changes.
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Wow, that is so beautifully said. It's your willingness to
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receive whatever whatever is in front of you and to
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be fully involved with it and then to be receptive
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to it. So it's beautifully said. Thank you so much
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for everything that you're doing in your leadership role within
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the Save Soil and Conscious Planet. It's very much appreciated.
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Thank you for taking the time to share with us
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and bring more awareness to Conscious Planet and to the
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Save Soil movement. Again, really appreciate it. Thank you for
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our listeners for tuning in and stay tuned for music
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No Lily Loely.
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This very body is soil, My body, your body, everybody
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is just soil.
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Body, soil.
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The magic of soil is it turns death into life.
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Depleted soils will not quench the fire of hunger. Unquenched
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hunger can burn the very world.
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