Full Transcript for E266: 28 Years Later: The Bone Temple (2026)

82 00:04:51.639 --> 00:04:53.120 You got the cat on catur Day? 83 00:04:53.199 --> 00:04:57.160 Right, I did. I got the cat on Caturday. Nice. 84 00:04:57.439 --> 00:04:58.160 It was meant to be. 85 00:04:58.680 --> 00:04:59.519 Do you want to reveal it? 86 00:04:59.639 --> 00:05:00.480 In sure? 87 00:05:00.560 --> 00:05:04.160 Her name is Jewel because she has bright blue eyes 88 00:05:04.199 --> 00:05:05.360 that remind me of gems. 89 00:05:05.959 --> 00:05:08.839 Oh that's sweet. All right, let's move on. 90 00:05:09.319 --> 00:05:12.959 I thought because she was like a nineties early two thousands. 91 00:05:12.519 --> 00:05:15.079 Pop she's a great singer. She's a really great singer. 92 00:05:15.199 --> 00:05:21.079 She really surprised me. So that's exactly what she sounds like. 93 00:05:21.439 --> 00:05:22.000 It's a good one. 94 00:05:22.079 --> 00:05:22.959 Actually, it's a good song. 95 00:05:23.199 --> 00:05:23.959 It's a great song. 96 00:05:25.639 --> 00:05:26.040 Anyway. 97 00:05:26.120 --> 00:05:29.160 Okay, that's enough of my news, John, Do you have 98 00:05:29.199 --> 00:05:30.000 any horror news. 99 00:05:33.439 --> 00:05:34.480 That's a beautiful segue. 100 00:05:34.879 --> 00:05:38.519 Thank you, coorse iView. Of course I do. All right, kids, 101 00:05:38.560 --> 00:05:43.560 we had homework. We all watched the trailer for Haunted Heist. 102 00:05:44.279 --> 00:05:47.240 I want to get your thoughts, Jacqueline, the new cat owner. 103 00:05:47.800 --> 00:05:48.319 What'd you think? 104 00:05:49.399 --> 00:05:49.600 Well? 105 00:05:49.959 --> 00:05:55.000 So I felt immediately encouraged when the trailer started. I thought, oh, 106 00:05:55.079 --> 00:05:56.759 this looks like it could be really funny. I like 107 00:05:56.839 --> 00:06:00.399 the setting, you guys know, I love a gothic film, 108 00:06:00.519 --> 00:06:03.120 you know, like a you know, creaky old dark mansion. 109 00:06:03.199 --> 00:06:03.600 I like that. 110 00:06:04.639 --> 00:06:07.639 Clearly this is supposed to be comedic in tone. You know, 111 00:06:07.720 --> 00:06:10.240 from the get go, it seems very comedic. I really 112 00:06:10.319 --> 00:06:11.240 like Tiffany. 113 00:06:10.920 --> 00:06:13.240 Hattish, so I was like, okay, okay, I can get 114 00:06:13.279 --> 00:06:13.639 behind this. 115 00:06:13.879 --> 00:06:16.040 You know, they're spending the night and you know they 116 00:06:16.079 --> 00:06:19.079 rented as an airbnb. But some of them were skeptical, 117 00:06:19.639 --> 00:06:24.399 you know, so it looked promising to me. However, as 118 00:06:24.480 --> 00:06:28.839 the trailer went on, they revealed some of the jokes, 119 00:06:29.519 --> 00:06:32.439 and the jokes just felt weak to me, like kind 120 00:06:32.480 --> 00:06:35.920 of juvenile or kind of cheap or too obvious, So 121 00:06:37.800 --> 00:06:41.199 that that dampened some of my enth enthusiasm a little bit. 122 00:06:41.319 --> 00:06:44.120 I don't know how optimistic I am about it anymore. 123 00:06:44.360 --> 00:06:46.120 I don't know how good the writing is really going 124 00:06:46.199 --> 00:06:48.480 to be, because I feel like it could be set 125 00:06:48.560 --> 00:06:50.639 up for, you know, a really funny movie, but the 126 00:06:50.720 --> 00:06:52.399 jokes ahead in the trailer just didn't hit for me. 127 00:06:52.879 --> 00:06:57.000 Agreed Hydroberg, thoughts, Yeah, I was getting a little bit 128 00:06:57.040 --> 00:07:00.360 of like want to be scary movie slash the Black getting, 129 00:07:02.439 --> 00:07:05.160 but they did look like there was some entertainment here. 130 00:07:05.480 --> 00:07:08.000 I will say I think I recognized a few of 131 00:07:08.079 --> 00:07:11.800 the people as possible, like YouTubers that are breaking into acting. 132 00:07:12.279 --> 00:07:14.480 So that might be why the film has a little 133 00:07:14.519 --> 00:07:18.319 bit of that amateurist looks sort of vibe. Maybe with 134 00:07:18.439 --> 00:07:22.639 the comedy and the writing, it may not zingle the time, 135 00:07:23.120 --> 00:07:25.360 you know, because writing for film is different than writing 136 00:07:25.439 --> 00:07:28.360 for sketches in you know, on YouTube and stuff like that. 137 00:07:28.600 --> 00:07:31.600 And I'm I'm not you know, downplaying what they do. 138 00:07:31.959 --> 00:07:34.399 I'm just saying it's different, so it might not hit 139 00:07:34.439 --> 00:07:37.000 the same. But some of the gags looked like they 140 00:07:37.040 --> 00:07:40.120 were there, and I did like the tone. Like you said, Jacqueline, 141 00:07:40.120 --> 00:07:41.839 I like the spooky vibes, you know what I mean. 142 00:07:41.959 --> 00:07:43.839 They were going for some jokes, but they might be 143 00:07:43.920 --> 00:07:46.560 going for too much too, like too many gags in 144 00:07:46.720 --> 00:07:48.639 too many directions, you know what I mean, just to 145 00:07:48.720 --> 00:07:50.560 be you know, sometimes you got to rein it in. 146 00:07:51.120 --> 00:07:52.959 So who knows, but I don't know. I still got 147 00:07:53.000 --> 00:07:54.680 to see Scary Movie six or whatever. 148 00:07:54.439 --> 00:07:56.800 It was me too, and I still got to see 149 00:07:56.800 --> 00:08:02.040 The Blackening, which I think just into streaming on Max 150 00:08:02.120 --> 00:08:04.319 or Hulu or something just a couple of days ago. 151 00:08:04.600 --> 00:08:09.399 So okay, watch it. Yeah, agreed, what do you think? 152 00:08:09.480 --> 00:08:09.720 John? 153 00:08:10.920 --> 00:08:11.399 Not for me? 154 00:08:11.800 --> 00:08:13.639 It really isn't. I mean, you guys brought up all 155 00:08:13.680 --> 00:08:16.680 the movies that it kind of was mirroring. I also 156 00:08:16.759 --> 00:08:20.000 got a little bit of the Ready or Not. You know, 157 00:08:20.160 --> 00:08:21.600 it's like it's. 158 00:08:23.240 --> 00:08:27.560 Just so seems so happy the ghost came in me. 159 00:08:27.839 --> 00:08:29.160 When the ghost

came inside of me. 160 00:08:29.920 --> 00:08:30.720 Holding down on that. 161 00:08:31.600 --> 00:08:34.000 So that was that funny. Yeah, that was good. 162 00:08:34.360 --> 00:08:36.960 My friend from get out, I don't know, but I 163 00:08:37.039 --> 00:08:37.559 hope so he. 164 00:08:37.759 --> 00:08:43.879 Well, U big time dude, right, Yeah, he pays like 165 00:08:44.360 --> 00:08:46.360 he plays this nerdy guy, you know, just kind of 166 00:08:46.440 --> 00:08:49.919 like out of touch with reality. I like that character. 167 00:08:50.080 --> 00:08:54.320 I love Tiffany Hattish. I think she's great. I think 168 00:08:54.399 --> 00:08:57.720 the cast is fine, but they were just so heavy 169 00:08:57.759 --> 00:09:01.159 handed with the jokes, and you know, if that's the 170 00:09:01.240 --> 00:09:03.320 way the movie is going to be, it's really. 171 00:09:03.159 --> 00:09:03.639 Not for me. 172 00:09:03.960 --> 00:09:07.600 It's like I'd give it a chance, though, Okay, I 173 00:09:07.679 --> 00:09:10.799 mean give it a one watch. If if I laugh 174 00:09:10.919 --> 00:09:14.679 my cajone's off, I mean great, But if I'm not 175 00:09:14.960 --> 00:09:18.200 expecting to, I'm expecting to get a couple of chuckles 176 00:09:18.240 --> 00:09:18.519 out of it. 177 00:09:19.080 --> 00:09:19.200 Mm. 178 00:09:19.279 --> 00:09:23.399 Hmmm, so you know that's what I thought. So we 179 00:09:23.639 --> 00:09:29.840 did cover Ma right, Yes, Ma too Electric, Thank you. 180 00:09:29.960 --> 00:09:34.120 Jacqueline is Happening is Scripts being written by Emmy winner 181 00:09:34.720 --> 00:09:40.240 Ashley Nicole Black and star Octavia Spencer says it's going 182 00:09:40.320 --> 00:09:45.200 to be chock full of surprises. So I'm she'll be back, 183 00:09:45.960 --> 00:09:46.559 She'll be back. 184 00:09:46.919 --> 00:09:48.879 Do we know it to be a sequel sequel or 185 00:09:49.000 --> 00:09:54.320 is it like a scream boot or like it's a 186 00:09:54.360 --> 00:09:59.240 real word. Yes, well, it's a cut above word, cut 187 00:09:59.320 --> 00:10:00.320 above loose. 188 00:10:03.200 --> 00:10:04.080 I would watch it. 189 00:10:04.679 --> 00:10:06.399 I know I like that movie better than you guys, 190 00:10:06.440 --> 00:10:08.840 but I know, but but it's. 191 00:10:09.919 --> 00:10:13.240 I love Octavia Spencer. I can watch her in anything. 192 00:10:13.399 --> 00:10:17.360 She's she's got comedic timing, she's dramatic, she'd get it scary. 193 00:10:19.039 --> 00:10:22.600 And I love Octavia Spencer. I mean she deserves all 194 00:10:22.639 --> 00:10:26.519 the flowers in the world of the work that she's 195 00:10:26.559 --> 00:10:28.039 put out to. 196 00:10:28.120 --> 00:10:30.080 Give her another leading role. I'd like that. 197 00:10:30.639 --> 00:10:32.799 Yeah. I watch that Food Network show where she's in 198 00:10:32.879 --> 00:10:37.360 New Orleans, her hometown and brings like a family members 199 00:10:37.480 --> 00:10:40.799 or or couples together and they cook and they it's 200 00:10:40.840 --> 00:10:43.159 a competition, obviously, but it's so good. 201 00:10:44.840 --> 00:10:45.240 What is it? 202 00:10:46.639 --> 00:10:49.480 I think it's like called soul family or something like that. 203 00:10:49.759 --> 00:10:51.159 No, no, what did what did you say? 204 00:10:51.200 --> 00:10:53.840 It was a Coptitian competition? 205 00:10:54.440 --> 00:10:59.360 Okay, you cut out? I think then you want to 206 00:10:59.399 --> 00:11:04.720 hear a competition like cooking competition, like a cook a Titian. 207 00:11:05.960 --> 00:11:07.360 You just make it left. 208 00:11:09.879 --> 00:11:19.919 All words are made up Jacqueline's tons. Oh yeah, that 209 00:11:20.120 --> 00:11:21.720 and cats, a lot of pussy and cock. 210 00:11:22.799 --> 00:11:29.879 So so far we've had catulations, congratulations Caturday and cocketition. 211 00:11:30.039 --> 00:11:32.480 I didn't make that. Can't make I did not make Caturday. 212 00:11:32.759 --> 00:11:35.480 That is a real holiday, I know, but at the 213 00:11:35.480 --> 00:11:36.679 correct moment I did. 214 00:11:37.320 --> 00:11:39.799 So this is the reason why it's so much fun 215 00:11:39.879 --> 00:11:42.320 with just us three, because we would go off on 216 00:11:42.440 --> 00:11:43.360 some ship. 217 00:11:44.240 --> 00:11:46.200 Yeah, other people wouldn't tolerated. 218 00:11:46.320 --> 00:11:48.519 We don't feel constrained by other people's judgment. 219 00:11:48.840 --> 00:11:52.240 We don't not at all. Anyways, we're getting really close 220 00:11:52.320 --> 00:11:54.039 to Halloween and you know what that means. 221 00:11:54.080 --> 00:11:56.919 Guys, right, what another Saw movie? Oh wait, that was 222 00:11:56.960 --> 00:11:57.919 from like ten years ago. 223 00:11:58.480 --> 00:11:59.879 No, another VHS movie? 224 00:12:00.600 --> 00:12:02.360 Oh oh yeah, I forgot about those. 225 00:12:02.919 --> 00:12:04.480 That's the new yearly thing. 226 00:12:06.080 --> 00:12:12.039 VHS. There you go. VHS Mixtape has got an October 227 00:12:12.120 --> 00:12:13.799 twenty twenty sixth premiere on it. 228 00:12:13.919 --> 00:12:17.279 Right, it's a ninety steamed one. Is that nineties or eighties? 229 00:12:17.519 --> 00:12:17.879 I don't know. 230 00:12:18.320 --> 00:12:20.200 I want to say it's like like a little bit 231 00:12:20.240 --> 00:12:24.399 of everything, like maybe like go pros and then VHS 232 00:12:24.600 --> 00:12:28.159 and then whatever. I don't know. I'm done with I'm 233 00:12:28.240 --> 00:12:30.879 done with that franchise. I enjoy it. I probably enjoy 234 00:12:30.960 --> 00:12:33.000 it more than you guys, but I'm like done with 235 00:12:33.080 --> 00:12:34.480 this franch I haven't seen the last. 236 00:12:34.519 --> 00:12:36.240 The problem is I can't keep them straight. 237 00:12:36.320 --> 00:12:40.200 There's so many of them, and like you, you can't remember, 238 00:12:40.360 --> 00:12:42.679 like which segments go

with which movies, Like I know 239 00:12:42.759 --> 00:12:46.480 we've covered two of them on here, but I don't 240 00:12:46.960 --> 00:12:48.720 have any idea which segments go with it. 241 00:12:48.879 --> 00:12:52.480 We've covered through no, yeah, did we No? 242 00:12:53.519 --> 00:12:53.720 Yeah? 243 00:12:54.200 --> 00:12:58.559 Yeah, I did ninety something right, We did eight ninety four, 244 00:13:00.360 --> 00:13:02.159 and then we did and then we did another one. 245 00:13:02.200 --> 00:13:04.960 I thought with Anna not too long ago. I thought 246 00:13:05.240 --> 00:13:07.080 maybe that was an eighty something. I thought I thought 247 00:13:07.120 --> 00:13:09.200 we did three. I thought we did two kind of 248 00:13:09.240 --> 00:13:10.759 earlier on and then like one. 249 00:13:11.519 --> 00:13:12.600 We didn't dollow. 250 00:13:12.679 --> 00:13:13.919 We've never done the originals. 251 00:13:14.559 --> 00:13:17.200 We talked about doing VHS Halloween, but I think. 252 00:13:17.080 --> 00:13:20.840 We don't remember anyone, So maybe that's what I'm thinking of. 253 00:13:21.039 --> 00:13:23.360 I don't remember. I think we just did eighty four 254 00:13:23.360 --> 00:13:24.000 and ninety four. 255 00:13:24.159 --> 00:13:25.440 Anyway, it just proves the point. 256 00:13:25.759 --> 00:13:27.639 Yeah, I know they all blurre together. 257 00:13:27.720 --> 00:13:29.759 As my point, they really do, and it's just like like, 258 00:13:30.279 --> 00:13:32.480 you know, it's like a Twilight Zone episode. You like 259 00:13:32.639 --> 00:13:37.039 some what the segments in VHS and then you're just like, no, 260 00:13:37.480 --> 00:13:38.399 that's so forgettable. 261 00:13:38.879 --> 00:13:41.600 Not everyone is going to be you know, a you know, 262 00:13:42.000 --> 00:13:43.759 a success. Not everyone's going to be a hit. 263 00:13:44.080 --> 00:13:46.559 So I still like those kind of films, and I 264 00:13:46.720 --> 00:13:49.759 like that there's like anthology films coming out and it's 265 00:13:49.799 --> 00:13:52.879 an avenue for young filmmakers or like new filmmakers or 266 00:13:53.000 --> 00:13:55.240 whatever to like branch out or try new stuff. 267 00:13:55.320 --> 00:13:57.919 So I do that. Yeah, I agree with that. I 268 00:13:58.120 --> 00:14:00.679 liked the the first two ABC's of Death. 269 00:14:00.960 --> 00:14:03.039 Do you guys have never seen this? Yeah? 270 00:14:03.840 --> 00:14:05.960 It would be really hard to review though, because there's 271 00:14:05.960 --> 00:14:07.120 still six segments. 272 00:14:08.879 --> 00:14:10.039 I mean, like not. 273 00:14:13.320 --> 00:14:15.440 We could break it up over a month and do 274 00:14:15.639 --> 00:14:18.960 like six or seven segments per week, just do like 275 00:14:19.120 --> 00:14:19.759 one film to. 276 00:14:19.879 --> 00:14:22.320 Just create a Patreon and just make people pay to 277 00:14:22.360 --> 00:14:25.240 see that that in the look. 278 00:14:26.639 --> 00:14:30.399 Somehow, somehow, some way. 279 00:14:30.399 --> 00:14:33.720 Of Death in April doesn't really roll off the tongue. No, 280 00:14:34.360 --> 00:14:37.159 it's we gotta work shot. That one doesn't have any 281 00:14:38.320 --> 00:14:39.399 it doesn't have any eyebrows. 282 00:14:43.919 --> 00:14:45.720 That's still one of our best months, though. 283 00:14:45.840 --> 00:14:49.240 That was unforgettable. That's the theme month by which I 284 00:14:49.360 --> 00:14:50.639 measure all other the months. 285 00:14:50.960 --> 00:14:55.799 I agree it's but there's such lunacy involved in it, 286 00:14:56.120 --> 00:14:57.240 and I don't think it could. 287 00:14:57.440 --> 00:14:58.279 So crazy. 288 00:14:59.480 --> 00:15:02.759 Together, could bring it back, Yeah, let's try. I'll start, 289 00:15:02.840 --> 00:15:03.480 I'll start looking. 290 00:15:03.720 --> 00:15:05.440 I feel like it would be a pale imitation of 291 00:15:05.480 --> 00:15:06.440 the original. 292 00:15:07.799 --> 00:15:08.879 Drum together some films. 293 00:15:09.080 --> 00:15:10.879 I think we had so much fun with it, it's 294 00:15:11.000 --> 00:15:12.159 just we have to bring it back. 295 00:15:12.279 --> 00:15:14.360 I think we got the best films possibly out of 296 00:15:14.399 --> 00:15:14.840 the way now. 297 00:15:14.879 --> 00:15:16.879 I don't think we need to plant an equally zany 298 00:15:16.960 --> 00:15:18.240 theme to pursue. 299 00:15:18.720 --> 00:15:22.000 Yeah, possibly like Mullet month, you know, or something like that. 300 00:15:24.320 --> 00:15:31.759 The month of March, Yeah, mark and March March the 301 00:15:31.840 --> 00:15:32.759 market mar. 302 00:15:35.480 --> 00:15:41.840 Yes, ipy right, the god damn it? 303 00:15:42.360 --> 00:15:44.960 An entire month of markets. Where could we get on 304 00:15:45.039 --> 00:15:45.399 there so. 305 00:15:45.440 --> 00:15:47.799 We could put we could put we already did critics. 306 00:15:48.360 --> 00:15:51.240 We can put trash on there from fucking what's it called? 307 00:15:51.279 --> 00:15:54.480 We could do the uh neither living dead part two 308 00:15:54.559 --> 00:15:57.799 whatever there is or revenge or what's it called return? 309 00:15:58.000 --> 00:16:03.240 I was mistaken. It's like called I forget. Yeah, I 310 00:16:03.279 --> 00:16:06.799 always forget because they it's technically a sequel to that 311 00:16:06.960 --> 00:16:07.559 branched off. 312 00:16:08.120 --> 00:16:10.600 Yeah, it's okay, so return to the living town, Okay 313 00:16:11.360 --> 00:16:15.120 living The problem is like, it's so you can't necessarily 314 00:16:15.240 --> 00:16:18.399 visually clock whether it's American or not the way you 315 00:16:18.440 --> 00:16:19.440 can clock at unigrase. 316 00:16:19.519 --> 00:16:21.440 Well, that's we could still put it on the show. 317 00:16:21.480 --> 00:16:23.279 We can have a debate whether we think it's Amerking 318 00:16:23.360 --> 00:16:23.480 or not. 319 00:16:23.639

--> 00:16:26.639 We can have nudity, is what we're doing. 320 00:16:27.559 --> 00:16:29.480 Does it marking or does it squirking? 321 00:16:29.559 --> 00:16:29.720 There? 322 00:16:29.799 --> 00:16:32.200 I don't know what are we talking about. 323 00:16:33.639 --> 00:16:35.559 That we're doing tonight. There was a lot of wang 324 00:16:35.639 --> 00:16:38.360 doodle in it. Okay, so we're in the equal opportunity 325 00:16:38.480 --> 00:16:39.840 nudist calling over here? 326 00:16:40.000 --> 00:16:43.799 Absolutely, Oh my goodness. Okay, well maybe that's our signing 327 00:16:44.000 --> 00:16:47.039 going on to the movie. Yes, okay, kind of you 328 00:16:47.120 --> 00:16:50.639 kind of let us there, John, all right? Was that produced? 329 00:16:50.679 --> 00:16:50.919 Okay? 330 00:16:52.399 --> 00:16:56.440 All right, well, John, we're doing twenty eight years later 331 00:16:56.799 --> 00:16:57.960 The Bone Temple. 332 00:16:58.159 --> 00:16:59.960 This was your pick? Why did you choose the. 333 00:17:02.240 --> 00:17:04.240 Well? I think we had so much fun with twenty 334 00:17:04.279 --> 00:17:08.640 eight years later, a couple of guys I work with, 335 00:17:09.119 --> 00:17:12.000 they're your typical friends that you work with, and they're like, oh, 336 00:17:12.079 --> 00:17:14.359 you do a podcast, you should do this movie. So 337 00:17:14.440 --> 00:17:18.079 I'm gonna I'm gonna call out Casey. Casey's like Bone 338 00:17:18.119 --> 00:17:21.400 Temple or twenty eight years later the Bone Temple. You've 339 00:17:21.519 --> 00:17:24.680 got to review that movie. I'm like, okay, whatever. So 340 00:17:24.799 --> 00:17:27.559 we've watched the first one and then I was like, 341 00:17:27.680 --> 00:17:30.599 I enjoyed that quite a bit, So yes, let's do that. 342 00:17:30.960 --> 00:17:35.839 So okay, cool, cool, Well, it's time to decide whether 343 00:17:36.200 --> 00:17:39.720 twenty eight years later, the Bone Temple fucks or sucks. 344 00:17:40.359 --> 00:17:42.599 Oh please tell me, Elizabeth, how exactly does one suck 345 00:17:42.640 --> 00:17:44.519 a fuck? You want me to tell you? Please? 346 00:17:44.960 --> 00:17:47.640 Okay, John, tell us once and for all. Does the 347 00:17:47.720 --> 00:17:49.480 Bone Temple fuck or suck? 348 00:17:50.119 --> 00:17:52.079 Dong swinging it? Fucks? 349 00:17:52.640 --> 00:17:53.039 All right? 350 00:17:53.519 --> 00:17:54.039 That's all I got. 351 00:17:54.599 --> 00:17:56.359 Okay, Hydro, Burt, what do you say? 352 00:17:57.279 --> 00:17:57.519 Yeah? 353 00:17:58.480 --> 00:18:00.920 Like a gang bang a bunch of me? This one? 354 00:18:01.039 --> 00:18:01.319 Fox? 355 00:18:01.640 --> 00:18:01.960 How's that? 356 00:18:04.640 --> 00:18:05.319 That's pretty good? 357 00:18:05.720 --> 00:18:06.799 Dak What what'd you think? 358 00:18:07.759 --> 00:18:07.920 Oh? 359 00:18:08.119 --> 00:18:08.319 Boy? 360 00:18:08.640 --> 00:18:09.079 You guys? 361 00:18:09.759 --> 00:18:11.000 Oh disagrees with us? 362 00:18:11.599 --> 00:18:15.440 Uh, this movie is good looking, but it's disappointing once 363 00:18:15.480 --> 00:18:16.920 you get it into bed it sucks. 364 00:18:17.599 --> 00:18:18.880 Wow, m h. 365 00:18:20.559 --> 00:18:21.440 After the last one. 366 00:18:21.920 --> 00:18:27.519 I know. Oh, I have thoughts, So let's get into it. Okay, Sehn, 367 00:18:27.559 --> 00:18:29.119 will you drop the spoiler warning? Please? 368 00:18:29.720 --> 00:18:32.279 Sorry? We were talking about twenty eight years later The 369 00:18:32.319 --> 00:18:36.039 Bone Temple twenty twenty five in its entirety. If you 370 00:18:36.079 --> 00:18:38.279 have not seen this movie, pause podcast, go watch it 371 00:18:38.359 --> 00:18:40.799 on Netflix, then come back to find out what we 372 00:18:40.920 --> 00:18:41.400 thought about it. 373 00:18:41.799 --> 00:18:42.400 Yeah, do it. 374 00:18:42.759 --> 00:18:45.720 It's twenty twenty six. Actually is it, Jane? 375 00:18:46.039 --> 00:18:47.519 It was late Oh. 376 00:18:47.440 --> 00:18:51.160 Okay, no, it was exactly twenty eight weeks after later 377 00:18:51.480 --> 00:18:56.240 previous one. Yeah, perfect, all right, Hyderberg, moist in your eyes? 378 00:18:56.319 --> 00:18:58.359 And then do you have a reach around plot summary 379 00:18:58.440 --> 00:19:00.640 for us and growing. 380 00:19:00.400 --> 00:19:03.720 Down our show to see how many vhs is we've covered? 381 00:19:05.119 --> 00:19:06.240 You're still stuck on that? 382 00:19:06.480 --> 00:19:10.599 Come on, I wanted to see anyway. Uh yes, I 383 00:19:10.680 --> 00:19:22.640 do have a retround Jimmy tastic returnt. Now are you 384 00:19:22.680 --> 00:19:23.519 playing with you? Jimmy? 385 00:19:24.640 --> 00:19:26.160 He's playing with his bon Temple. 386 00:19:27.279 --> 00:19:27.599 I was. 387 00:19:27.920 --> 00:19:29.039 I was trying to be the alpha. 388 00:19:29.119 --> 00:19:35.000 I was like, that is the funniest. 389 00:19:34.880 --> 00:19:38.799 Umphyderberg, You've got to keep that just for future use. 390 00:19:38.799 --> 00:19:41.839 I'm sure it'll come in handy many times in the future, of. 391 00:19:42.039 --> 00:19:45.160 Course, why not especially march to the markets. 392 00:19:45.640 --> 00:19:52.759 M Oh my lord, it's not march to the markets. 393 00:19:52.799 --> 00:19:56.519 It's it's it's march to the markets of the broken Hyderberg. 394 00:19:56.559 --> 00:20:00.759 I feel like you're really starting to compete with Andy 395 00:20:01.359 --> 00:20:05.079 in terms of like your bump. No, I'm just I 396 00:20:05.119 --> 00:20:06.880 think you're you're moving up in leagues here. 397 00:20:07.319 --> 00:20:09.519 He's the he's the teacher. I'm just the student. 398 00:20:10.000 --> 00:20:11.920 He is the master. But I feel like you're approaching 399 00:20:11.960 --> 00:20:12.440 his level. 400 00:20:15.519 --> 00:20:18.039 You just there's a level of subtle, subtlety. I think 401 00:20:18.079 --> 00:20:20.240 you need you

just Thank god John doesn't have the 402 00:20:20.279 --> 00:20:22.000 bump machine. I'm just I'm just saying. 403 00:20:24.400 --> 00:20:28.000 Over the map wouldn't get any sentences out, we would not. 404 00:20:31.039 --> 00:20:36.559 I get the urge, trust me. I want to ship 405 00:20:36.599 --> 00:20:38.599 in the hallways all the time, the stairwell all the time, 406 00:20:38.920 --> 00:20:39.640 but I don't do it. 407 00:20:40.359 --> 00:20:43.720 Got to control yourself, all right? Speaking of control, are 408 00:20:43.759 --> 00:20:44.519 you ready for the Reacher? 409 00:20:44.720 --> 00:20:44.880 Yes? 410 00:20:45.240 --> 00:20:48.799 I have control? Edge black in view not sure what 411 00:20:48.960 --> 00:20:52.279 we're hearing. The sounds of people screaming a water park, 412 00:20:52.359 --> 00:20:55.799 revealing our boy Spike from the last This twisted story 413 00:20:55.880 --> 00:20:58.759 picks up fast. A problem for the boy has a mask, 414 00:20:59.200 --> 00:21:02.599 a lot for spy to digest. Sir Jimmy. Crystal's minions 415 00:21:02.880 --> 00:21:05.680 wait with bated breath for what's next. A fight till 416 00:21:05.720 --> 00:21:08.559 the death, a prayer to the dark Lord. The finger 417 00:21:08.680 --> 00:21:12.160 with a sword. Spikes surrounded by the Horde, infected of 418 00:21:12.200 --> 00:21:16.480 another variety survivors, twisted by tragedy, Jimmy a Satanist, a 419 00:21:16.559 --> 00:21:20.200 blasphemy inside an empty pool with one of the fingers. 420 00:21:20.400 --> 00:21:24.160 Spike must duel or suffer the fool disarm. Spike fights 421 00:21:24.240 --> 00:21:27.440 to save his life. He pants his attacker, stamping Jimmy Shite. 422 00:21:27.799 --> 00:21:30.799 Poor Spike became a killer that night, artery gushing, he 423 00:21:30.880 --> 00:21:34.400 shouts to his mates for help. Shite bleeds out. He 424 00:21:34.559 --> 00:21:38.160 dies from Spike's attack. Shites Wig pushed back. Sir Jimmy 425 00:21:38.240 --> 00:21:40.720 says a few words, how's that the group on their 426 00:21:40.759 --> 00:21:44.720 merry way infected? They slay Spikes, speechless, nothing to say. 427 00:21:45.279 --> 00:21:47.359 Same day, we see a hunter in the woods killed. 428 00:21:47.720 --> 00:21:50.400 Alpha gets a hold of him, blood spilled, head and 429 00:21:50.480 --> 00:21:54.079 spine ripped from body. Samson thrilled on train. We fined 430 00:21:54.319 --> 00:21:58.160 Doctor Kelson feeling just fine clearing the train while Samson 431 00:21:58.240 --> 00:22:00.759 devours the mind of the man who he just slaughtered 432 00:22:01.119 --> 00:22:04.240 In miles of sharp blue water. The doctor sings while 433 00:22:04.279 --> 00:22:07.880 making order out of death and despair. Kelson has seen 434 00:22:07.920 --> 00:22:11.519 his share the Alpha Samson into the distance. He stares 435 00:22:11.880 --> 00:22:15.559 his attention. Caught, the doctor has sought. Kelson gives Samson 436 00:22:15.599 --> 00:22:18.519 a shot.

Samson, the name he was given by the 437 00:22:18.599 --> 00:22:23.240 doctor administer's prescription alpha drug. Samson has visions bones warm 438 00:22:23.319 --> 00:22:26.240 to the touch. The doctor doesn't get visitors much. His 439 00:22:26.400 --> 00:22:29.559 life has been tough underground. He casts on the wall. 440 00:22:29.640 --> 00:22:32.279 We see a glimpse of his past, his tastes in music, 441 00:22:32.680 --> 00:22:36.119 and how he'd last so long alone, his routine built 442 00:22:36.160 --> 00:22:39.240 around bone to build a testament to death in his zone. 443 00:22:39.680 --> 00:22:42.559 Next day, Doc has a visitor. Sampson backed the grand 444 00:22:42.559 --> 00:22:47.359 inquisitor more tocsin with blowgun her doctor would administer with Samson. 445 00:22:47.400 --> 00:22:50.839 A relationship grows, a quid pro crow killing the doctor 446 00:22:50.920 --> 00:22:53.960 a nogo. On the hill, they sit while Samson has 447 00:22:54.000 --> 00:22:56.960 a trip down memory lane before society took a shit 448 00:22:57.279 --> 00:23:00.319 the way. Kelson speaks to him like a friend, knowing 449 00:23:00.440 --> 00:23:03.359 very well this alpha to be at his end, his trust, 450 00:23:03.400 --> 00:23:06.920 he would lend nothing wrong with peace and respite. Kelson 451 00:23:07.000 --> 00:23:10.440 doses himself. They spend the night under the stars next morning, 452 00:23:10.519 --> 00:23:13.400 not a sight of Samson on the hill the doctor. 453 00:23:13.480 --> 00:23:17.200 He didn't kill. This gives Kelson great thrill listening to Duran, 454 00:23:17.319 --> 00:23:20.799 Duran Samson just a man. Doctor Kelson has a plan 455 00:23:21.319 --> 00:23:23.599 back to the wood. We see a group of hunters 456 00:23:23.720 --> 00:23:26.400 in a spot no good, heading back to a compound 457 00:23:26.440 --> 00:23:29.920 which stood one less than before. Home, Sweet home, everything 458 00:23:30.000 --> 00:23:32.480 they adore. They are greeted. We have guests. As they 459 00:23:32.519 --> 00:23:35.720 approach the door. While the way evil invaded this acreage, 460 00:23:35.960 --> 00:23:39.920 Sir Jimmy and his fingers curse everything sacred, chaos and carnage. 461 00:23:39.960 --> 00:23:43.039 Jimmy thrives on the hatred this family. Jimmy puts through 462 00:23:43.079 --> 00:23:46.400 hell inside the mine of a madman. Unwell spikee just 463 00:23:46.480 --> 00:23:49.440 a kid on the madness. He dwells, seeking pastures. A 464 00:23:49.559 --> 00:23:53.079 new ink missing charity, Old Nick. She sees with much 465 00:23:53.160 --> 00:23:56.200 clarity a red devil dancing at a temple of bone, 466 00:23:56.279 --> 00:23:59.960 a rarity. The Doc dancing across the rio. Grand Kelson 467 00:24:00.079 --> 00:24:02.759 and Samson so high they can't land. Ink sees them 468 00:24:02.839 --> 00:24:06.599 dancing hand in hand. Sir Jimmy Crystal with manifesto memorized 469 00:24:06.880 --> 00:24:10.160 her family tighting gag. Kathy can't believe

her eyes. Jimmy 470 00:24:10.240 --> 00:24:12.920 and his seven fingers skin them alive to his friend 471 00:24:13.000 --> 00:24:16.200 Kelson must come clean the truth about the morphine. In 472 00:24:16.279 --> 00:24:19.000 two weeks, it will run lean to youth. Deniz Samson 473 00:24:19.079 --> 00:24:22.440 would be too soon, Kelson interrupted as the Alpha says, 474 00:24:22.519 --> 00:24:25.720 Moon cut back to Jimmy the loon. Jimmia kill dead, 475 00:24:25.960 --> 00:24:28.960 takes a hook to the head. Tables turned instead. Tom 476 00:24:29.039 --> 00:24:32.359 crawls through the pain, ignites Jimmy with her Paine to 477 00:24:32.519 --> 00:24:36.799 carnage insane fire, disrupting one of Jimmy's simple joys. Kathy 478 00:24:36.880 --> 00:24:39.680 getting away. Jimmy annoyed to Spike. Get her, my boy, 479 00:24:40.119 --> 00:24:42.599 he can't go through with it. She gets away. Jimmy 480 00:24:42.640 --> 00:24:45.519 gives him some shit. His throat must be slit, his 481 00:24:45.640 --> 00:24:48.960 life saved, Ink and devines tonight there'll be no more screams. 482 00:24:49.319 --> 00:24:52.640 Ink reveals she saw Old Nick at night. The Alpha dreams. 483 00:24:52.960 --> 00:24:55.599 Jimmy and the Fingers arrive to the place where Old 484 00:24:55.680 --> 00:24:59.559 Nick thrives into the temple. Jimmy goes inside a conversation 485 00:24:59.680 --> 00:25:04.079 with Old Nick. Doctor Ian Kelson believes Jimmy mentally sick. Together, 486 00:25:04.160 --> 00:25:07.119 they sit of Jimmy's true father. They speak, but its 487 00:25:07.160 --> 00:25:10.440 answers Ink and the fingers seek and a bind. Jimmy's 488 00:25:10.480 --> 00:25:13.400 interests piqued. Perhaps his new friend Ian can help with 489 00:25:13.559 --> 00:25:17.519 his dilemma. The doctor in danger Jimmy a real killer. Meanwhile, 490 00:25:17.559 --> 00:25:21.640 Samson deals with zombie dementia. Ian Kelson devises a plan 491 00:25:22.119 --> 00:25:25.039 to turn Samson back into a man. On his knowledge 492 00:25:25.039 --> 00:25:28.400 of medicine, he stands. Spike leaves camp early that morning, 493 00:25:28.720 --> 00:25:31.839 trying to give his old friend fair warning. Instead with 494 00:25:31.960 --> 00:25:35.039 Jimmy Fox Spikes Warring, cutting a smile on his face. 495 00:25:35.440 --> 00:25:38.039 Spike in a very bad place. Ink slides in and 496 00:25:38.119 --> 00:25:40.960 stabs one of her mates. Jimmy Fox moans and groans 497 00:25:41.279 --> 00:25:44.200 for Spike. Ink killed one of her own. A Jimmy 498 00:25:44.240 --> 00:25:47.759 who challenges the throne. Jimmy slowly losing his fingers. In 499 00:25:47.839 --> 00:25:51.799 Samson's ears, the sounds and memories of society linger in 500 00:25:51.920 --> 00:25:55.480 traincar memory. He'd glimmer, he thought he'd exhibit when he 501 00:25:55.559 --> 00:26:00.359 hears no ticket. The infected bloodlust. It elicits Samson, the 502 00:26:00.400 --> 00:26:04.279 other infected. His alpha status tested, but he

can't be bested. 503 00:26:04.720 --> 00:26:07.599 Through old knicks gates, Jimmy brings the fingers of fate, 504 00:26:08.039 --> 00:26:11.400 a spectacle Kelson would create. Dialing it up to eleven. 505 00:26:11.640 --> 00:26:15.599 Here comes doctor Satan. Your soul's for the taken. Kelson 506 00:26:15.640 --> 00:26:18.359 puts on a show of a lifetime. His audience small, 507 00:26:18.440 --> 00:26:21.920 a damn prime, everything going just fine. Through magic, Satan 508 00:26:22.000 --> 00:26:25.839 invades their minds, his priro technics well timed. Ian changes 509 00:26:25.920 --> 00:26:28.599 his mind when he sees Spike under the mask, a 510 00:26:28.720 --> 00:26:32.000 sacrifice he would task to the Jimmies at last. Jimmy 511 00:26:32.079 --> 00:26:35.640 defiant to Kelson, he's not Satan, Jimmy tells them. Ink 512 00:26:35.759 --> 00:26:39.480 attacks her mates and Jimmy's death befalls them, but Jimmy 513 00:26:39.519 --> 00:26:42.880 knocked out. He's crucified till he shouts upside down, he 514 00:26:42.960 --> 00:26:46.519 bleeds out a vision of the devil in his eyes. Actually, Sampson, 515 00:26:46.599 --> 00:26:49.759 who survived, come back to thank his friend for being kind, 516 00:26:50.200 --> 00:26:52.880 Thank you for giving me back my mind. Kelson carried 517 00:26:52.920 --> 00:26:55.960 off her friendship so simple. Twenty eight years later, Ink 518 00:26:56.039 --> 00:26:59.839 now Kelly with Spike the timeline, they ripple Memento Maury 519 00:27:00.160 --> 00:27:01.039 at the Bone Temple. 520 00:27:01.519 --> 00:27:04.519 Yeah, holy crap, Now that was outstanding. 521 00:27:05.160 --> 00:27:06.920 Yeah, that was that was outstanding. 522 00:27:07.400 --> 00:27:09.359 What don't you like about the movie like that? What's 523 00:27:09.480 --> 00:27:12.200 really sad? I'm curious about that too, because I really 524 00:27:12.400 --> 00:27:14.720 like I think this improves the other one for me. 525 00:27:15.680 --> 00:27:17.319 Like it. The things that I didn't like what the 526 00:27:17.359 --> 00:27:20.519 other one are spoken on in this one, and I 527 00:27:20.599 --> 00:27:22.240 don't what did you like? 528 00:27:22.640 --> 00:27:22.680 Like? 529 00:27:22.839 --> 00:27:23.880 What did you hate? 530 00:27:24.039 --> 00:27:26.079 So it's it's a large scale problem. 531 00:27:26.319 --> 00:27:27.400 It's not a small like. 532 00:27:27.680 --> 00:27:30.119 It's not like I don't like this character's dialogue. It's 533 00:27:30.480 --> 00:27:35.240 the the construction of the story bothers me. The previous movie, 534 00:27:35.759 --> 00:27:37.119 as you know, I really loved. 535 00:27:37.400 --> 00:27:38.519 I gave it a nine out of ten. 536 00:27:39.920 --> 00:27:43.359 I really liked in the previous movie how we had 537 00:27:43.400 --> 00:27:46.839 like a new protagonist in Spike, and we were grounded 538 00:27:47.000 --> 00:27:51.039 in his family story. We had this very interesting character 539 00:27:51.160 --> 00:27:54.559 of doctor Kelson, who was like a major character in 540 00:27:54.680 --> 00:27:59.960 Spike's orbit right, but like emotionally the story was grounded 541 00:28:00.160 --> 00:28:05.920 with Spike. I went into this movie expecting a continuation 542 00:28:06.200 --> 00:28:10.000 of Spike's story with him as a protagonist, and I 543 00:28:10.319 --> 00:28:12.119 do not feel like that's. 544 00:28:12.039 --> 00:28:12.599 What we got. 545 00:28:13.039 --> 00:28:17.680 I feel like we got a dual film split between Kelson, 546 00:28:18.160 --> 00:28:21.359 which I loved and I thought was the whole storyline 547 00:28:21.400 --> 00:28:27.240 with Kelson I thought was extremely effective, Yes, extremely effective 548 00:28:27.440 --> 00:28:30.640 and interesting and I think has some interesting things to say. 549 00:28:31.920 --> 00:28:34.519 And the other half of the movie is split. 550 00:28:34.519 --> 00:28:38.240 With Sir Jimmy and his gang, and I feel like 551 00:28:38.440 --> 00:28:42.000 that part of the movie really centers Jimmy, Sir Jimmy 552 00:28:42.079 --> 00:28:45.720 the main Jimmy, and I feel like Spike becomes a 553 00:28:45.880 --> 00:28:49.880 side character. That is one of my complaints there to me, 554 00:28:50.759 --> 00:28:54.599 in that half of the story, there is no emotional grounding. 555 00:28:55.759 --> 00:28:59.480 There were things that there were elements of Spike's story 556 00:28:59.519 --> 00:29:02.480 that I wanted to see continued and possibly wrapped up 557 00:29:02.640 --> 00:29:06.200 in this film that did not get addressed at all, 558 00:29:06.759 --> 00:29:07.240 such as. 559 00:29:09.200 --> 00:29:11.839 His dad, his home back on the island. 560 00:29:13.200 --> 00:29:15.559 I mean, he dropped the baby off there last and 561 00:29:15.640 --> 00:29:16.279 then left there. 562 00:29:16.440 --> 00:29:18.799 I know, but like, even if he decides not to 563 00:29:18.920 --> 00:29:20.880 go back there, I want some acknowledgment that. 564 00:29:20.960 --> 00:29:23.079 It exists, or I want his dad to go look 565 00:29:23.160 --> 00:29:23.519 for him. 566 00:29:23.880 --> 00:29:28.839 Right Like, It's like Spike's story is just like forgotten 567 00:29:29.920 --> 00:29:32.799 and he becomes a character in Jimmy's orbit. 568 00:29:33.359 --> 00:29:36.759 And I anticipated that though, because they didn't show any 569 00:29:36.839 --> 00:29:39.000 Jimmy in the first film and then he just shows 570 00:29:39.079 --> 00:29:40.720 up in the end. So I almost felt like we 571 00:29:40.799 --> 00:29:41.920 were going to get a lot of them. 572 00:29:43.400 --> 00:29:45.400 Well, I thought we were going to get some Jimmy, 573 00:29:45.480 --> 00:29:47.400 and I was fine that. I was very curious to 574 00:29:47.519 --> 00:29:49.960 see what that band of maniacs was going to be like. 575 00:29:50.160 --> 00:29:53.519 But again I thought they were going to be you know, 576 00:29:54.240 --> 00:29:57.599 orbiting characters

in Spike story, and. 577 00:29:57.640 --> 00:29:59.759 That's not what put on the back burner. 578 00:30:00.200 --> 00:30:04.359 Yeah, Jacqueline, I agree with that, I really do. But 579 00:30:05.079 --> 00:30:08.359 like for entertainment value, I enjoyed it, and I'm jumping 580 00:30:08.559 --> 00:30:12.000 way to the end. It was very similar of how 581 00:30:12.799 --> 00:30:16.160 the previous movie ended, and then you get Killian Murphy. 582 00:30:17.920 --> 00:30:19.880 So then I think that's because if you remember, this 583 00:30:20.039 --> 00:30:21.920 is going to be a trilogy, there's one more movie 584 00:30:21.960 --> 00:30:22.839 to come, I know, but. 585 00:30:24.720 --> 00:30:26.480 I think that's where I think that's where it's all 586 00:30:26.480 --> 00:30:28.559 going to tie in. I think that's going to show up. 587 00:30:29.000 --> 00:30:32.440 Yeah, but this is the problem. 588 00:30:33.279 --> 00:30:35.240 This is the problem we always have with the second 589 00:30:35.319 --> 00:30:38.720 movie in a trilogy, is that it might serve. 590 00:30:38.559 --> 00:30:39.960 As the first movie. 591 00:30:40.559 --> 00:30:43.359 So this this movie might serve as a narrative bridge 592 00:30:43.400 --> 00:30:45.200 between the first and the third movie. And we haven't 593 00:30:45.200 --> 00:30:46.920 seen the third movie yet, so we don't know how 594 00:30:46.960 --> 00:30:49.440 it's going to tie in. But in and of itself, 595 00:30:49.920 --> 00:30:53.319 that creates problems for that second movie. Like I understand 596 00:30:53.359 --> 00:30:56.880 that it might have serve a purpose to connect one 597 00:30:56.960 --> 00:30:59.880 in three but like but but on its own, I 598 00:31:00.200 --> 00:31:01.079 don't think it works. 599 00:31:01.160 --> 00:31:04.640 I mean, one thing it does is the really horrible 600 00:31:04.759 --> 00:31:06.880 side of this world that he thought he wanted to 601 00:31:07.160 --> 00:31:08.839 live out, you know what I mean, And he's starting 602 00:31:08.839 --> 00:31:09.839 to see like the worst of. 603 00:31:09.920 --> 00:31:12.119 It, and I get that. I feel like this movie. 604 00:31:12.519 --> 00:31:15.119 I can see the movie. I can see what the 605 00:31:15.200 --> 00:31:16.160 movie's goals are. 606 00:31:16.960 --> 00:31:20.079 I can see what it's trying to say. I just 607 00:31:20.200 --> 00:31:22.720 disagree with how it's saying it. To me, this movie 608 00:31:22.880 --> 00:31:26.359 feels like the equivalent of Halloween Ends that you go 609 00:31:26.519 --> 00:31:30.000 in expecting a movie about Michael Myers and how he 610 00:31:30.079 --> 00:31:32.960 affects this town and Laurie blou Bloo and Alison and 611 00:31:33.000 --> 00:31:36.559 all this, and instead you get this random, unexpected character 612 00:31:36.720 --> 00:31:38.839 that like sucks up the whole movie and you're like, 613 00:31:39.000 --> 00:31:41.640 what is this random ship? That's how I felt watching 614 00:31:41.759 -->

00:31:46.680 this movie. Really, I felt like Sir Jimmy's Gang got 615 00:31:46.799 --> 00:31:47.960 way too much of the. 616 00:31:49.480 --> 00:31:50.680 Time screen time. 617 00:31:50.799 --> 00:31:53.960 I feel like, I feel like I just need gangs 618 00:31:54.079 --> 00:31:57.279 in the gang, Like I like the moment, give me 619 00:31:57.359 --> 00:31:59.279 more stuff with It's not about moments. 620 00:31:59.319 --> 00:32:01.319 It's funny to see it through his perspective, and we 621 00:32:01.440 --> 00:32:04.039 don't where he thought the character were following. 622 00:32:04.119 --> 00:32:06.039 He's not the same character he was at the end 623 00:32:06.079 --> 00:32:08.039 of the first film, and he should have been more 624 00:32:08.079 --> 00:32:08.519 built up. 625 00:32:08.759 --> 00:32:11.119 Well, he should be the same character as before. He 626 00:32:11.480 --> 00:32:12.400 should have grown. 627 00:32:12.519 --> 00:32:15.039 But I want to see this story through his eyes. 628 00:32:15.480 --> 00:32:19.240 But instead I feel like Spike is now like Spike 629 00:32:19.400 --> 00:32:22.079 is now like the Michael Myers, and Sir Jimmy is 630 00:32:22.240 --> 00:32:22.839 like the Cory. 631 00:32:23.519 --> 00:32:26.200 Well. See, I thought that I thought the first movie 632 00:32:26.279 --> 00:32:27.599 was going to have more of his dad. I thought 633 00:32:27.640 --> 00:32:29.880 the movie was the first movie was about him and 634 00:32:30.000 --> 00:32:31.680 his dad, so I was surprised when it became a 635 00:32:31.759 --> 00:32:32.759 Spike centric movie. 636 00:32:34.079 --> 00:32:36.359 I still feel like Spike is the protagonist in the movie. 637 00:32:36.400 --> 00:32:40.440 Yeah, I agree, And Jacqueline, I'm gonna I'm gonna submit 638 00:32:40.680 --> 00:32:43.759 to the poll scene. Just that's where it starts. 639 00:32:43.960 --> 00:32:44.119 You know. 640 00:32:44.359 --> 00:32:46.599 I wasn't a big fan of that. I think it 641 00:32:46.759 --> 00:32:53.359 was Gore for Gore's sakes, you know, dumb luck. Though 642 00:32:53.799 --> 00:32:57.160 I thought it was poorly executed. I didn't like that. 643 00:32:57.400 --> 00:33:00.680 I mean, yeah, it was nice. He hit a femoral 644 00:33:01.119 --> 00:33:05.519 artery and it was like just blood. I love this 645 00:33:05.640 --> 00:33:06.200 setting of this. 646 00:33:06.319 --> 00:33:08.359 Movie, though, Yeah, that's cool. 647 00:33:08.720 --> 00:33:11.079 I love all the settings. Yeah, I think all the 648 00:33:11.119 --> 00:33:14.400 settings look great. Great. I think the cinematography looks gorgeous. 649 00:33:14.480 --> 00:33:15.839 I actually did like the opener. I thought it was 650 00:33:15.880 --> 00:33:19.160 pretty visceral, Like I kind of like the sloppiness of it. 651 00:33:19.240 --> 00:33:22.160 It's chaotic knife fight, like it's their kids. It's like 652 00:33:22.240 --> 00:33:24.720 Lord of the Flies in a way. And then Jimmy's 653 00:33:25.000 --> 00:33:27.680

in arrested development, so you know, but he's just the 654 00:33:27.720 --> 00:33:31.640 biggest kid. But I like that, Like Spike does prevail 655 00:33:31.839 --> 00:33:34.279 because they drop as they drop their guard around him. 656 00:33:34.319 --> 00:33:36.759 But then he doesn't really go anywhere, like you said, 657 00:33:36.839 --> 00:33:39.920 in the group, like there's nothing, there's no real conflict 658 00:33:39.960 --> 00:33:41.359 in the group other than like I don't want to 659 00:33:41.440 --> 00:33:43.599 kill you know what I mean. So he just kind 660 00:33:43.640 --> 00:33:46.039 of plays along them and that and that and doing so. Yeah, 661 00:33:46.079 --> 00:33:48.640 he gets lost in the background of the characters. Although 662 00:33:48.680 --> 00:33:51.079 I do like the group. I like the different jimmies 663 00:33:51.319 --> 00:33:54.200 and I like, so give me more of that. I'm 664 00:33:54.240 --> 00:33:56.119 not saying I like, but you don't like the different 665 00:33:56.200 --> 00:33:59.759 variety of like I like, I mean, they're all true. 666 00:34:00.160 --> 00:34:02.319 Look who they're guy, the guy is that's running them. 667 00:34:02.720 --> 00:34:04.640 Did you anticipate more from them at the end of 668 00:34:04.680 --> 00:34:06.960 the first one, because they just look like teletubbies to me, 669 00:34:07.039 --> 00:34:09.639 so I was like, I wasn't interesting. I wasn't anticipating 670 00:34:09.679 --> 00:34:11.000 great dialogue from all of them. 671 00:34:11.280 --> 00:34:13.440 To be honest, it's not that I was expecting Morrish, 672 00:34:13.519 --> 00:34:15.760 just there was just no I think I expected less. 673 00:34:15.880 --> 00:34:18.800 Honestly, they're like fodder in some scenes. Some of that 674 00:34:19.000 --> 00:34:21.280 you're not meant to really get to know. But there's 675 00:34:21.320 --> 00:34:22.880 a couple of them had some moments. 676 00:34:23.159 --> 00:34:25.239 I think, Sir Jimmy is interesting, and the rest of 677 00:34:25.280 --> 00:34:27.239 them are kind of a blur for me. Other than Kelly. 678 00:34:27.679 --> 00:34:31.400 Isn't it weird? He's got like that control that man. 679 00:34:32.039 --> 00:34:33.679 Okay, thank you for saying that. 680 00:34:33.880 --> 00:34:37.320 I specifically was thinking he reminds me of Jeremiah Sands 681 00:34:37.320 --> 00:34:39.880 because he's super evil. He has a lot of control 682 00:34:39.920 --> 00:34:40.840 over this group of people. 683 00:34:40.880 --> 00:34:42.239 But in the anti he turns out to be really 684 00:34:42.320 --> 00:34:47.639 fucking pathetic. He's so pathetic, does a great John. 685 00:34:48.039 --> 00:34:51.119 He thinks he's the Antichrist, No, the son of the 686 00:34:51.159 --> 00:34:55.360 anti Christ, which is the Antichrist. 687 00:34:55.719 --> 00:34:56.480 Yeah, I guess right. 688 00:34:56.920 --> 00:35:03.719 But I think Jimmy's interesting. He's super well acted. The guy. Yeah. 689 00:35:03.880 --> 00:35:05.800 I just watched Sinners again the other night and like 690 00:35:06.199 --> 00:35:08.559 that actor is going like, oh yeah, I forgot that 691 00:35:08.679 --> 00:35:12.360 the same actor. Yeah, I forgot, and I'm I'm sorry 692 00:35:12.400 --> 00:35:15.840 I'm blanket on his name because it's Jack O'Connell. 693 00:35:15.920 --> 00:35:21.039 I think, all right, yeah, O'Connell or O'Connor. I'm sorry, 694 00:35:21.039 --> 00:35:21.920 I can't remember. 695 00:35:23.119 --> 00:35:25.360 The transition that they do too, of like from the 696 00:35:25.400 --> 00:35:30.599 knife fight to the serene nature of the Bone Temple. Like, 697 00:35:30.760 --> 00:35:33.199 I think the Casta really directs a good film here, 698 00:35:33.719 --> 00:35:36.159 in my opinion, maybe you don't like the character work 699 00:35:36.239 --> 00:35:38.760 with with our main I mean, I guess maybe it's 700 00:35:38.840 --> 00:35:41.280 just like the film's not giving you what we think 701 00:35:41.320 --> 00:35:43.440 we're getting, and I don't think we can anticipate what 702 00:35:43.519 --> 00:35:45.119 we're gonna get from this third one either. I don't 703 00:35:45.159 --> 00:35:47.159 know what it'll do to the series, I do think 704 00:35:47.239 --> 00:35:49.599 from my in my opinion, this one, this one increased 705 00:35:49.639 --> 00:35:51.559 my opinion of the of the last one. 706 00:35:52.119 --> 00:35:55.079 Increased my opinion of the first one because the contrast 707 00:35:55.239 --> 00:35:57.280 highlighted how good the previous one. 708 00:35:57.599 --> 00:36:01.679 I like this one still though. Actually I'm glad that 709 00:36:01.719 --> 00:36:02.039 you guys do. 710 00:36:02.079 --> 00:36:03.119 I'm not trying to talk you down. 711 00:36:03.480 --> 00:36:08.000 You know, I liked you know. I like to focus 712 00:36:08.119 --> 00:36:09.800 on his character of Doc. 713 00:36:10.639 --> 00:36:15.000 I agree, he just the guy, you know. 714 00:36:15.079 --> 00:36:17.760 It's like we were talking about Octavius Spencer, but like, 715 00:36:18.000 --> 00:36:20.519 like this guy could do no wrong. You know, he's 716 00:36:20.559 --> 00:36:23.920 been he's been in some really really really good movies 717 00:36:24.079 --> 00:36:26.800 and he just acts his ass off and it's like 718 00:36:27.239 --> 00:36:30.000 like you get this vibe. I like the fact that 719 00:36:30.119 --> 00:36:32.559 that it's a mysterious character. But you find out in 720 00:36:32.639 --> 00:36:37.000 this movie he's actually very benevolent and he's trying to 721 00:36:37.039 --> 00:36:39.880 make because he's a doctor and he was trying to know. 722 00:36:40.000 --> 00:36:41.719 That from the first film too. We know, no, he's 723 00:36:41.760 --> 00:36:42.639 not a scary guy. 724 00:36:43.039 --> 00:36:46.079 No exactly. You know, he just keeps himself covered in 725 00:36:46.400 --> 00:36:51.480 like uh you know, zombie blood or whatever, just whatever 726 00:36:51.559 -->

00:36:55.039 it is. And it's like like, you know, he's trying 727 00:36:55.199 --> 00:36:59.599 to make this wrong of the whole world, right, you know, 728 00:36:59.679 --> 00:37:01.320 I'm trying to make something out of it. 729 00:37:01.519 --> 00:37:01.719 Yeah. 730 00:37:03.000 --> 00:37:06.239 Force of positivity in the world, right, And he's the 731 00:37:06.480 --> 00:37:07.880 he's the force of humanity. 732 00:37:08.480 --> 00:37:10.199 And I take back what I said about him from 733 00:37:10.199 --> 00:37:11.480 the first one, where I thought he was kind of 734 00:37:11.519 --> 00:37:13.840 crazy in the first one. He's definitely more of a 735 00:37:13.920 --> 00:37:16.559 complete person in this like movie as well, Like you 736 00:37:16.599 --> 00:37:18.639 see a lot more of him a little bit. 737 00:37:18.599 --> 00:37:22.599 Dude, that whole like performance with Iron Maiden. 738 00:37:24.519 --> 00:37:26.159 That was so good. 739 00:37:26.679 --> 00:37:28.880 You know, he's singing along too. 740 00:37:29.039 --> 00:37:31.440 Like Samson, his whole performance when he does that whole 741 00:37:31.519 --> 00:37:34.679 number of the beast thing and then the fire pyrotechnics. 742 00:37:35.840 --> 00:37:38.480 So I I agree with you, John, I think that 743 00:37:39.199 --> 00:37:42.440 his performance is outstanding, and I think his role in 744 00:37:42.519 --> 00:37:44.880 the story is really saying something. 745 00:37:45.039 --> 00:37:49.760 I think. I think what this film is trying to address. 746 00:37:49.719 --> 00:37:53.119 Is, you know what we see a lot in zombie movies, right, 747 00:37:53.159 --> 00:37:55.360 even though these aren't like technically zombies, I guess, but. 748 00:37:57.199 --> 00:37:58.800 You know, who is the real monster? 749 00:37:59.039 --> 00:38:02.440 And like the what does humanity do in the face 750 00:38:02.519 --> 00:38:07.320 of chaos and disorganization and anarchy basically, like, you know, 751 00:38:07.400 --> 00:38:09.360 we see this type of story all the time, where 752 00:38:09.400 --> 00:38:15.400 you see certain people becoming monstrous and violent and selfish 753 00:38:15.559 --> 00:38:19.079 and really indulging those darker parts of the human psyche. 754 00:38:20.639 --> 00:38:23.199 And then you see characters who are trying to make 755 00:38:23.239 --> 00:38:25.360 the best of it, characters who are trying to help others. 756 00:38:25.400 --> 00:38:27.119 You see this, and of course Trained to Busson is 757 00:38:27.159 --> 00:38:29.639 a great example, right, Oh yeah, but like really almost 758 00:38:29.719 --> 00:38:35.199 any any like competently made zombie movie you're going to have, 759 00:38:35.880 --> 00:38:37.519 you know, you're going to see the different ways that 760 00:38:37.559 --> 00:38:41.800 people react to this situation, right, And so I think 761 00:38:41.920 --> 00:38:44.280 that's what this movie is trying to address, which is 762 00:38:44.480 --> 00:38:49.000 like Jimmy and his gang are like indulging in the 763 00:38:49.400 --> 00:38:53.480 darkest parts of themselves, like they are evil in chaos incarnate, right. 764 00:38:54.519 --> 00:38:58.719 They are going around taking for themselves and hurting others 765 00:38:58.760 --> 00:38:59.119 for fun. 766 00:38:59.559 --> 00:39:02.440 Yeah, there's scavengers, that's what they are, like pirates, you know. 767 00:39:03.000 --> 00:39:05.119 Yeah, but they're not just trying to survive like they 768 00:39:05.159 --> 00:39:09.559 are sadistic. They thrive on the suffering of others. And meanwhile, 769 00:39:10.119 --> 00:39:14.519 you have doctor Kelson who doesn't even want to kill 770 00:39:14.599 --> 00:39:17.199 an infected. He doesn't even want to kill an alpha 771 00:39:17.320 --> 00:39:21.039 infected like pretty much every other human would want to, right. 772 00:39:21.400 --> 00:39:24.559 He wants to, but he's not trying to kill them, no, 773 00:39:24.760 --> 00:39:26.480 and he's trying to learn from them. He's trying to 774 00:39:26.639 --> 00:39:30.679 ease Samson's suffering. I mean, that is like the ultimate 775 00:39:30.920 --> 00:39:36.280 compassionate human quality, right, like trying to ease the suffering 776 00:39:36.360 --> 00:39:39.519 of others. And so I think I think that's what 777 00:39:39.679 --> 00:39:43.199 this movie is trying to address. But again, I think 778 00:39:43.320 --> 00:39:46.039 that the portion of the movie that deals with Jimmy 779 00:39:46.119 --> 00:39:50.119 and his gang, it's I don't mind Jimmy and his 780 00:39:50.280 --> 00:39:52.119 gang being there. I think it's a I think it's 781 00:39:52.280 --> 00:39:56.840 a really interesting character in Sir Jimmy and like group 782 00:39:56.920 --> 00:40:00.199 dynamic thing. But the main thing, it's not it's about 783 00:40:00.199 --> 00:40:04.159 the character work, it's the perspective. I want to experience 784 00:40:04.280 --> 00:40:07.519 Jimmy and his gang through the perspective of Spike, and 785 00:40:07.679 --> 00:40:10.199 that like that shift I think I. 786 00:40:10.239 --> 00:40:13.119 Feel like in that hard I don't think so at all. 787 00:40:13.159 --> 00:40:17.000 I think Jimmy. I think that Jimmy's are a protagonist here. 788 00:40:17.719 --> 00:40:22.280 Yeah, Hydroberger, I agree with Jacqueline, mostly because it's like 789 00:40:22.519 --> 00:40:25.400 Spike's story would have been more interesting in the in 790 00:40:25.519 --> 00:40:28.119 the struggle. You know, you know you said, didn't you 791 00:40:28.199 --> 00:40:32.039 say arrested development? Like he's getting older, he's almost a teen, 792 00:40:32.199 --> 00:40:34.000 and you know he's still going through this. 793 00:40:34.639 --> 00:40:37.920 I mean, I mean his Jimmy and his followers are 794 00:40:37.960 --> 00:40:38.880 in a rested development. 795 00:40:39.280 --> 00:40:42.480 I just think they're sadistic. I disagree with that. 796 00:40:42.599 --> 00:40:44.880 I think they're

just all his followers are kids, so 797 00:40:45.079 --> 00:40:47.679 that he basically as kids. He was a kid who 798 00:40:47.760 --> 00:40:50.559 seems like probably he raised himself. Maybe in this world. 799 00:40:50.920 --> 00:40:56.000 It's like he's on a couple of things, the telets exactly, 800 00:40:57.639 --> 00:41:00.239 and his father and what he remembers of the the 801 00:41:00.360 --> 00:41:02.440 day that it happened, you know, and then and then 802 00:41:02.480 --> 00:41:04.480 the rest and and the rest is kind of a 803 00:41:04.519 --> 00:41:05.079 blur to him. 804 00:41:05.159 --> 00:41:07.760 So would you guys think of the dialogue of this movie. 805 00:41:08.199 --> 00:41:11.480 I like it. I do too, Like I mostly like 806 00:41:11.639 --> 00:41:15.199 Shakespeare from a Gang of Killers, but I think Jimmy 807 00:41:15.719 --> 00:41:18.960 he speaks elegantly in a way, but he's also like 808 00:41:19.320 --> 00:41:20.639 you could tell, he's the kind of guys like making 809 00:41:20.719 --> 00:41:22.639 up words or like trying to trying to sound like 810 00:41:22.679 --> 00:41:24.280 the smartest guy in the room. That's why he surrounds 811 00:41:24.320 --> 00:41:27.639 himself with children. Who will you know, like like a 812 00:41:27.719 --> 00:41:31.119 Jeremy Sands or something, someone he surrounds himself or uses 813 00:41:31.199 --> 00:41:33.320 drugs or something, you know, that kind of nature. He doesn't. 814 00:41:33.360 --> 00:41:34.639 This guy doesn't use drugs. 815 00:41:35.119 --> 00:41:38.280 So maybe it's maybe it's the reason why. Like he'll 816 00:41:38.320 --> 00:41:40.719 find kids that are survivors and it's just like he 817 00:41:40.840 --> 00:41:43.599 wants to keep them young, and like you said, arrested 818 00:41:43.679 --> 00:41:46.840 development that there they'll do his bidding. 819 00:41:47.280 --> 00:41:50.039 Yeah, it's like a Manson family type of thing. Yeah, exactly, 820 00:41:50.960 --> 00:41:53.679 like young kind of lost people who don't have anybody 821 00:41:53.719 --> 00:41:55.639 else who's gonna care about them or step in and 822 00:41:56.199 --> 00:41:57.239 just kind of snatch them up. 823 00:41:57.519 --> 00:42:00.159 So yeah, and he indoctor nates them and there his 824 00:42:00.239 --> 00:42:02.880 little fucking gang. He puts the wigs on him and 825 00:42:03.400 --> 00:42:04.199 all the other stuff. 826 00:42:04.559 --> 00:42:07.000 And I again I want to emphasize that I like that. 827 00:42:07.280 --> 00:42:09.400 I like that element to the story, but it's all 828 00:42:09.400 --> 00:42:10.599 about the perspective for me. 829 00:42:11.079 --> 00:42:13.360 What I don't know, what I'm not sure about was like, 830 00:42:13.480 --> 00:42:14.199 I don't know why this. 831 00:42:14.320 --> 00:42:16.519 Needs to be like a Satanic cult thing that feels 832 00:42:16.559 --> 00:42:21.599 pretty random, Like it just feels like really random to 833 00:42:21.679 --> 00:42:23.559 be light for his for. 834 00:42:23.599 --> 00:42:25.960 Why he's into Satan so much like I thought it 835 00:42:26.000 --> 00:42:28.199 would be like he's because he saw there was a 836 00:42:28.280 --> 00:42:31.400 priest and pushed him away that he's now abandoned that, 837 00:42:31.679 --> 00:42:33.480 but they don't sure. 838 00:42:33.599 --> 00:42:38.280 But also there was this uh dichotomy of dark and light. 839 00:42:38.440 --> 00:42:40.880 You know, every time they were out of the light, 840 00:42:40.960 --> 00:42:43.880 but like anytime they did their dastardly deeds it was dark, 841 00:42:44.400 --> 00:42:47.039 and then like every time we saw Ian it was light, 842 00:42:47.440 --> 00:42:47.639 you know. 843 00:42:48.079 --> 00:42:49.599 Like exposition there for sure. 844 00:42:49.800 --> 00:42:54.679 Yeah, Yeah, it seems like there was a really heavy 845 00:42:54.920 --> 00:42:58.639 heavy handed theme to it that it was biblical, that 846 00:42:58.800 --> 00:43:01.760 it was like the same Sampson, isn't that a biblical? 847 00:43:02.280 --> 00:43:03.400 It is a biblical name. 848 00:43:03.719 --> 00:43:07.840 But I don't feel like there's anything like you can 849 00:43:08.039 --> 00:43:10.480 you can mind the depths of human evil without ever 850 00:43:10.599 --> 00:43:16.480 invoking Satan, you know, like and and and Ian a red. 851 00:43:16.320 --> 00:43:19.559 Guy, he's draped in red. You work in the whole Satan. 852 00:43:19.280 --> 00:43:20.920 Thing, I guess, I guess. 853 00:43:21.119 --> 00:43:25.840 But like Kelson is a force for good in this movie, 854 00:43:25.920 --> 00:43:27.960 but he's not drawing his good from any kind of 855 00:43:28.039 --> 00:43:30.840 religious faith, right, it's just human compassion. 856 00:43:30.920 --> 00:43:31.679 And so I think it. 857 00:43:31.639 --> 00:43:33.719 Would be much more interesting to me if we had 858 00:43:33.840 --> 00:43:38.159 like human compassion versus human sadism without having to invoke 859 00:43:38.239 --> 00:43:42.320 God or Satan, like Kelson isn't supposed to represent like God, 860 00:43:43.639 --> 00:43:45.199 and so I just don't know that we need this 861 00:43:45.280 --> 00:43:46.559 satanic element to it. 862 00:43:46.760 --> 00:43:50.239 Right, he doesn't. He doesn't seem to have any religious 863 00:43:50.239 --> 00:43:52.880 faith himself. When somebody at the end is like, oh, 864 00:43:52.920 --> 00:43:54.440 when an ink at the end is like. 865 00:43:55.039 --> 00:43:57.880 So you're not old, Nick, and he's like, nobody is 866 00:43:58.239 --> 00:44:01.880 nothing or nothing and nobody is right. So it would 867 00:44:01.880 --> 00:44:05.239 seem to indicate a lack of religious belief to me, right, But. 868 00:44:05.320 --> 00:44:09.440 There's also but you also, yeah, that's right, you're a Satanist. 869 00:44:10.599 --> 00:44:15.320 But but the upside down cross you know, everybody assumes 870 00:44:15.400 --> 00:44:20.800 that the upside down cross is Satanism

according to Biblical 871 00:44:20.960 --> 00:44:24.400 war is that it was. I would want to say 872 00:44:24.599 --> 00:44:28.000 Saint Peter that wanted to be upside down because he 873 00:44:28.440 --> 00:44:31.239 wasn't on the level of Jesus when he was crucified. 874 00:44:31.480 --> 00:44:32.400 Oh, I didn't know that. 875 00:44:33.000 --> 00:44:36.320 Yeah, so that's not the way school. 876 00:44:37.119 --> 00:44:40.199 I guess. I wasn't try to go there, but it 877 00:44:40.360 --> 00:44:47.960 was like, that's what it is. It's like upside down cross. 878 00:44:48.199 --> 00:44:52.159 I'm below Jesus and that's how I want to be crucified. 879 00:44:52.400 --> 00:44:53.679 That's interesting, but. 880 00:44:53.760 --> 00:44:59.360 It took you know, Satanic worship just blasphemy. You know, 881 00:44:59.440 --> 00:45:01.840 it's like doing the American flag upside down or something 882 00:45:01.880 --> 00:45:04.960 like that. It's like it's the negative of you know ye, 883 00:45:05.079 --> 00:45:08.199 kind of like an inversion of something a statement. Yeah, 884 00:45:08.800 --> 00:45:11.400 and that's the whole Satanism is like an inversion thing. 885 00:45:11.559 --> 00:45:15.079 So it's like, well, and that's that's what we thought. 886 00:45:17.320 --> 00:45:18.480 Yeah, we need the light and dark. 887 00:45:18.760 --> 00:45:20.880 I actually do want to ask Nicole about that. 888 00:45:21.519 --> 00:45:23.360 I do think because they are like the time that 889 00:45:23.400 --> 00:45:25.719 we spend with Ian and Samson. Yes, it's like that's 890 00:45:25.760 --> 00:45:28.480 our We're in touch with humanity, even though it's it's 891 00:45:28.519 --> 00:45:30.800 a story about a man and then affected almost you know, 892 00:45:30.800 --> 00:45:33.519 like a zombie kind of, but it's it's it's very 893 00:45:33.880 --> 00:45:37.119 you know, human. Yes, then the story itself is touching. 894 00:45:37.559 --> 00:45:37.679 Uh. 895 00:45:37.840 --> 00:45:40.599 And then we cut to Jimmy's world, which is just 896 00:45:40.679 --> 00:45:43.239 chaos and carnage, and I do think, yeah, we don't 897 00:45:43.280 --> 00:45:45.320 get a touch of humanity here because we're not seeing 898 00:45:45.360 --> 00:45:47.960 it through spikes eyes. If Spike had at least gone 899 00:45:48.000 --> 00:45:53.159 off with Ink and been seeing Kelso Kelson and had 900 00:45:53.199 --> 00:45:55.719 to keep that conflict in his brain of like, oh shit, 901 00:45:55.760 --> 00:45:57.480 what am I supposed to say something that I know 902 00:45:57.599 --> 00:45:58.920 this guy? Am I supposed to go down there and 903 00:45:58.960 --> 00:46:01.519 warn him? But they didn't play on that. He doesn't 904 00:46:01.559 --> 00:46:03.519 find out about it till later. That's kind of wasted 905 00:46:03.559 --> 00:46:05.320 they could have. They could have done that and the 906 00:46:05.320 --> 00:46:08.800 added some conflict to his character there. Maybe sure, I'm 907 00:46:08.880 --> 00:46:10.360 kind of right, it does sort of. He does take 908 00:46:10.400 --> 00:46:13.280 a backseat in a way. And Jimmy is a great character. 909 00:46:13.320 --> 00:46:15.199 You need to give his fat I get, I. 910 00:46:15.239 --> 00:46:18.199 Agree, but he needs to be the antagonist in the movie, 911 00:46:18.960 --> 00:46:19.920 not the protagonist. 912 00:46:20.519 --> 00:46:22.760 I just I just it all boils down to this. 913 00:46:22.840 --> 00:46:23.960 The perspective is all wrong. 914 00:46:25.760 --> 00:46:27.000 So it's confusing to me. 915 00:46:27.039 --> 00:46:29.360 As a viewer for like what this is supposed to 916 00:46:29.400 --> 00:46:29.760 be about. 917 00:46:29.880 --> 00:46:33.159 So I understand that no, no, no, like to me 918 00:46:33.559 --> 00:46:37.920 as some of the most interesting dialogue was between Samson 919 00:46:37.960 --> 00:46:42.719 and the Alpha and Ian and it was so beautifully set. 920 00:46:42.840 --> 00:46:45.880 You know, agree with you, he finds was given like 921 00:46:46.000 --> 00:46:49.079 this wonderful monologue. You know, he's just sitting there. He's 922 00:46:49.119 --> 00:46:52.159 got like you said, Jacqueline, he's got so much humanity 923 00:46:52.719 --> 00:46:54.840 that he's just he's trying to figure. 924 00:46:54.559 --> 00:46:58.599 This out, you know, like them hanging out and dancing 925 00:46:58.719 --> 00:46:59.440 together and stuff. 926 00:46:59.719 --> 00:47:00.440 That was great. 927 00:47:00.639 --> 00:47:03.920 I mean, not like taking opiates together and just fucking 928 00:47:04.000 --> 00:47:10.440 hanging out and just whatever. I don't know he does. Yeah, 929 00:47:10.480 --> 00:47:12.519 and then we see these little touches, like when he 930 00:47:12.599 --> 00:47:15.400 eats the berries, he wipes his finger on the longcloth. 931 00:47:15.519 --> 00:47:18.079 That's a very human thing that Zombi wouldn't do. I 932 00:47:18.199 --> 00:47:20.920 just don't care. I like these little touches effect whatever 933 00:47:21.079 --> 00:47:24.480 he's whatever's happening is working. I think him ripping out 934 00:47:24.519 --> 00:47:26.440 the spines and eating the brains was his way of 935 00:47:26.519 --> 00:47:28.719 trying to make that happen. He was getting something out 936 00:47:28.719 --> 00:47:30.679 of the brains. Right, I'm gonna eat your brains and 937 00:47:30.800 --> 00:47:39.000 take your knowledge. Yeah, yeah, what he's doing. And I 938 00:47:39.039 --> 00:47:41.559 think that Kelso is smart enough to notice that. And 939 00:47:41.639 --> 00:47:42.360 that's my dude. 940 00:47:42.519 --> 00:47:44.039 Reminded me of Jason. 941 00:47:45.000 --> 00:47:52.679 Completely, completely, completely. He is agree with you though, that 942 00:47:52.920 --> 00:47:54.039 that whole part of the. 943 00:47:54.079 --> 00:47:56.400 Story I found to be very beautiful and touching, and 944 00:47:56.440 --> 00:48:02.079 I think it's a representation of like the

best possible human. 945 00:48:02.000 --> 00:48:05.559 Reaction to a dire situation. 946 00:48:06.039 --> 00:48:08.039 It's like what we should all affect it too. 947 00:48:08.519 --> 00:48:12.360 Right, It's like doctor Kelson is what we should all 948 00:48:12.480 --> 00:48:13.119 aspire to. 949 00:48:13.199 --> 00:48:16.800 Be, I think, right, But because he was so understanding 950 00:48:16.880 --> 00:48:21.079 and loving and in humane, and it was like he 951 00:48:21.599 --> 00:48:25.599 he spent hours upon hours of trying to figure out Sampson, 952 00:48:25.840 --> 00:48:28.960 take these pills for me, please, and he disappears and 953 00:48:29.920 --> 00:48:33.760 Raife goes like, like out into this beautiful field. He's 954 00:48:33.880 --> 00:48:36.239 calling for Samson and he's like, I hope you found 955 00:48:36.280 --> 00:48:37.039 some humanity. 956 00:48:37.320 --> 00:48:42.480 And it was like god damn, it worked, you know, 957 00:48:43.039 --> 00:48:45.719 and he does wake up more lucid when that happens. 958 00:48:46.000 --> 00:48:47.920 I like the fact that it's like when he first 959 00:48:47.960 --> 00:48:51.440 dosed himself around the the infected around Samson, I'm like, oh, 960 00:48:51.480 --> 00:48:52.760 what what the fuck are you doing? 961 00:48:52.960 --> 00:48:53.079 Bro? 962 00:48:53.480 --> 00:48:55.280 Like that is a risky move, and he wakes up 963 00:48:55.280 --> 00:48:57.360 the next day and he's fine, and so it's like, yeah, 964 00:48:57.400 --> 00:49:00.639 he is. It proves that he is establishing alationship. There 965 00:49:00.760 --> 00:49:03.880 is a humanity. I like his idea of like I 966 00:49:04.199 --> 00:49:06.920 like to think that you're glazed over by this infection 967 00:49:07.119 --> 00:49:09.239 and not your humanity is still under there. 968 00:49:10.119 --> 00:49:11.920 You know, well, it brings up a great question what 969 00:49:12.039 --> 00:49:12.599 are you seeing? 970 00:49:13.079 --> 00:49:13.119 What? 971 00:49:13.440 --> 00:49:14.280 What are you seeing? 972 00:49:14.360 --> 00:49:14.400 What? 973 00:49:14.599 --> 00:49:17.000 What's the the anger the rage that you have? 974 00:49:17.199 --> 00:49:18.639 Like that they gave us a glimpse of that. 975 00:49:19.199 --> 00:49:22.280 Yeah, you know well, And interestingly that was an interesting 976 00:49:22.360 --> 00:49:24.639 point in the movie. It's like that's how he knows 977 00:49:24.679 --> 00:49:27.480 that it's like a kind of psychosis, like it's a 978 00:49:27.599 --> 00:49:32.079 mental problem because he's like he's these infected they're seeing 979 00:49:32.320 --> 00:49:35.199 something else, Like they're seeing you as something else than 980 00:49:35.559 --> 00:49:37.599 what you are. And then did you notice at the 981 00:49:37.760 --> 00:49:40.119 end when Jimmy is hanging upside down and he sees 982 00:49:40.119 --> 00:49:41.920 Samson walk by, he's got horns. 983 00:49:42.480 --> 00:49:44.760 Yeah, I did say, it's like

blurry at the edges. 984 00:49:44.800 --> 00:49:47.559 So you know, it's like his kind of hallucinatory vision when. 985 00:49:47.480 --> 00:49:49.440 He approaches he looks like the devil as well. 986 00:49:49.599 --> 00:49:53.079 Yeah, he's like yeah, and so it's like we're getting 987 00:49:53.079 --> 00:49:56.559 a glimpse of it's it's drawing an analogy between the 988 00:49:56.679 --> 00:49:59.280 evil of the infected, you know, the destruction and evil 989 00:49:59.320 --> 00:50:02.599 of the infected, and the destruction and evil of Jimmy 990 00:50:03.000 --> 00:50:07.719 just an evil person. Yeah, And so it's like it's 991 00:50:07.760 --> 00:50:08.639 his that's its. 992 00:50:08.639 --> 00:50:09.800 Own kind of sickness. 993 00:50:10.039 --> 00:50:13.039 It's his own kind of sickness. You know that he 994 00:50:13.280 --> 00:50:15.840 can hurt people because he sees them as something else. 995 00:50:16.400 --> 00:50:19.679 Right, But at that point, doesn't he yeah, doesn't he 996 00:50:19.760 --> 00:50:22.920 call him father or something like that as he's hanging upside. 997 00:50:22.599 --> 00:50:26.800 Down his distorted where he's talking to Sure, but but. 998 00:50:27.159 --> 00:50:29.320 Like he's like, oh, that's the real devil, that's the 999 00:50:29.400 --> 00:50:31.559 real guy. 1000 00:50:32.400 --> 00:50:33.960 I just think it's supposed to be a symbol to 1001 00:50:34.039 --> 00:50:37.639 it's a signal to us that he himself has a 1002 00:50:37.719 --> 00:50:41.519 sickness and he sees things in a distorted way that 1003 00:50:41.679 --> 00:50:45.519 causes him to want to commit acts of destruction and 1004 00:50:45.719 --> 00:50:46.679 pain and suffering. 1005 00:50:47.239 --> 00:50:50.599 Well, maybe before anybody else hurts him, you know that. 1006 00:50:50.719 --> 00:50:54.199 He's like he's got this band or his fingers, seven fingers, 1007 00:50:54.800 --> 00:50:56.480 I like that, go get them. 1008 00:50:56.880 --> 00:50:57.280 Mm hmm. 1009 00:50:57.639 --> 00:50:59.519 He's got the rings on his fingers and it's a 1010 00:50:59.559 --> 00:51:02.679 little bit uh like pageantry, and his character as well 1011 00:51:02.719 --> 00:51:05.079 as their characters, like their masks reminded me of bright 1012 00:51:05.159 --> 00:51:08.880 Burn or something like that. 1013 00:51:09.960 --> 00:51:12.880 We all wearing suits. They're wearing track suits. 1014 00:51:13.199 --> 00:51:15.760 Yeah, it were. It was the little dance that that 1015 00:51:15.840 --> 00:51:17.960 one chicked it. I loved her death that one. 1016 00:51:18.480 --> 00:51:20.440 What was her name was that the hook one? 1017 00:51:21.599 --> 00:51:22.000 Jamima? 1018 00:51:22.480 --> 00:51:23.719 Jamina Jamima. 1019 00:51:23.880 --> 00:51:27.199 Yeah, it's funny that that's I think it's funny that 1020 00:51:27.280 --> 00:51:28.559 that's her name because it's like Jimmy. 1021 00:51:28.599 --> 00:51:32.199 But she's your female version, the two females in the

1022 00:51:33.199 --> 00:51:33.519 or three. 1023 00:51:33.920 --> 00:51:35.679 Do you guys want to hear what doctor buzz Kill 1024 00:51:35.760 --> 00:51:37.320 said about this because he watched it with me. 1025 00:51:38.679 --> 00:51:41.599 Yeah, Danny Boyle, guy, but this isn't Danny Boyle. Alex 1026 00:51:41.639 --> 00:51:42.320 Carlan wrote this. 1027 00:51:42.880 --> 00:51:44.239 Yeah, well, he had watched. 1028 00:51:44.039 --> 00:51:45.599 The previous one with me and thought it was all right. 1029 00:51:45.679 --> 00:51:47.719 He kind of liked it, so he so he was 1030 00:51:47.760 --> 00:51:52.199 open to when I suggested this. So doctor buzz kills, 1031 00:51:52.400 --> 00:51:55.280 we really need like a little sound bite of like 1032 00:51:55.400 --> 00:51:58.719 a chainsaw revving or something kill. 1033 00:52:00.079 --> 00:52:00.360 Whatever. 1034 00:52:00.639 --> 00:52:04.039 Doctor Buzzkill has has some thoughts to Wanne. He said, 1035 00:52:04.079 --> 00:52:07.239 first enough, the first of all, the idea that a 1036 00:52:07.400 --> 00:52:10.880 blow dart could contain enough morphine to put somebody into 1037 00:52:10.960 --> 00:52:13.679 like a long term stupor is absolutely absurd. 1038 00:52:15.320 --> 00:52:17.760 So that's that's not real. 1039 00:52:20.360 --> 00:52:22.719 It'll give you a diabetes, but we'll knock you out. 1040 00:52:23.400 --> 00:52:26.719 Also, he said, somebody like rummaging around and finding like 1041 00:52:27.039 --> 00:52:30.360 one dose of an anti psychotic and administering one dose 1042 00:52:30.400 --> 00:52:34.199 of an anti psychotic would not like cure somebody of 1043 00:52:34.360 --> 00:52:38.360 their long lasting you know, psychosis effects, Like that's an 1044 00:52:38.400 --> 00:52:41.199 accumulated Joey survived. 1045 00:52:41.800 --> 00:52:45.760 He survived the zombie apocalypse already, so he already he 1046 00:52:45.840 --> 00:52:48.519 has his knowledge already built up. And he's talking about 1047 00:52:48.599 --> 00:52:53.440 plat of fucking zombie movies, right, haven't you joy? I 1048 00:52:53.519 --> 00:52:55.800 mean doctor buzz Cups. He didn't go to eighteen years 1049 00:52:55.840 --> 00:52:57.599 of doctor Buzzkill school. 1050 00:52:57.400 --> 00:53:00.840 To Buzzkill Medical school, to be called Easter. 1051 00:53:02.159 --> 00:53:05.239 Yeah, so one one dose of anti zochotic would not 1052 00:53:05.360 --> 00:53:10.000 cure somebody of some kind of like virus. He seemed 1053 00:53:10.079 --> 00:53:12.679 bothered by when like those people are in the woods 1054 00:53:12.760 --> 00:53:15.679 being chased and one guy seems like he got bitten 1055 00:53:15.760 --> 00:53:18.280 and then he runs around and he vomits out of nowhere. 1056 00:53:18.599 --> 00:53:21.519 He gets blood in his face and his eyes. Yeap, oh, 1057 00:53:21.960 --> 00:53:23.800 that's what I said, but that's how the virus can 1058 00:53:23.840 --> 00:53:24.239 be spread. 1059 00:53:24.320 --> 00:53:28.880 Yeah, he said, they didn't really explore the basic needs 1060 00:53:28.920 --> 00:53:32.559 of the infected, like they're they're eating, but they seem 1061 00:53:32.599 --> 00:53:35.800 to be disorganized, and if they're you know, infected with 1062 00:53:35.920 --> 00:53:38.199 like a rage virus, it seems like they would be 1063 00:53:38.599 --> 00:53:42.039 like unable to organize or be like effective enough to 1064 00:53:42.119 --> 00:53:43.000 like feed themselves. 1065 00:53:43.280 --> 00:53:45.360 So I don't I don't agree with that, but that's 1066 00:53:45.440 --> 00:53:47.000 what's what he said. I like that. 1067 00:53:47.760 --> 00:53:51.360 I like the continuity of this movie though, from the 1068 00:53:51.559 --> 00:53:54.559 very first one twenty eight days later to this one, 1069 00:53:54.639 --> 00:53:58.159 because the zombies are fast and they puke up like 1070 00:53:58.280 --> 00:54:01.599 when they become infected. That's so good to me. 1071 00:54:02.079 --> 00:54:05.639 Yeah, when people get infected, it's gross of blood that 1072 00:54:05.760 --> 00:54:11.440 comes out and they're just instantly turned like it's. 1073 00:54:11.639 --> 00:54:15.159 Well, the red orange eyes they keep that, you know. 1074 00:54:15.400 --> 00:54:16.440 It looks so monstrous. 1075 00:54:16.960 --> 00:54:18.320 It does like that. 1076 00:54:18.559 --> 00:54:21.760 Yeah, Okay, like their humanity is gone, just gone. 1077 00:54:22.159 --> 00:54:24.239 One last comment from doctor Buzzkill that I actually do 1078 00:54:24.280 --> 00:54:26.880 you think has some validity to it. This is more 1079 00:54:27.039 --> 00:54:30.280 criticism of the previous movie, but he pointed out that 1080 00:54:30.360 --> 00:54:37.079 there's not really any explanation of how certain infected become alphas. 1081 00:54:37.559 --> 00:54:42.800 And like why they huge physique and huge penis he said. 1082 00:54:43.400 --> 00:54:46.239 He's like, there's no they don't even offer any hypothesis 1083 00:54:46.360 --> 00:54:50.440 about why this happens. And he's like, there's no hint 1084 00:54:50.519 --> 00:54:54.519 that there's like discontent among the other infected that would 1085 00:54:54.519 --> 00:54:57.679 warrant need for like an alpha leader type role. 1086 00:54:58.280 --> 00:54:59.800 So yeah, I guess that's about. 1087 00:54:59.719 --> 00:55:02.519 He would that he would evolve into like this alpha. 1088 00:55:05.360 --> 00:55:05.960 Is he that big? 1089 00:55:06.239 --> 00:55:08.159 He's not. He doesn't quite look as big, but he's 1090 00:55:08.199 --> 00:55:08.840 not naked. 1091 00:55:09.239 --> 00:55:11.760 Does he have a memory of a kid? 1092 00:55:12.400 --> 00:55:15.000 Sort of there's like a kid slash he's a kid 1093 00:55:15.599 --> 00:55:17.760 and then he becomes and then he becomes an adult 1094 00:55:18.199 --> 00:55:21.320 when he answers the woman, which I really like that 1095 00:55:21.440 --> 00:55:25.639 scene though the tickets

get your ticket tickets, and then 1096 00:55:26.519 --> 00:55:29.960 he's just like like he speaks and we're just like, 1097 00:55:30.039 --> 00:55:33.559 oh ship, it's working like this, seeing him like in 1098 00:55:33.679 --> 00:55:36.360 the element but looking at it through different eyes all 1099 00:55:36.400 --> 00:55:38.440 of a sudden, like I just thought that was amazing 1100 00:55:38.559 --> 00:55:40.119 and beautiful. I did too. 1101 00:55:40.639 --> 00:55:43.760 I love the fact to the way it transitioned, like 1102 00:55:44.360 --> 00:55:46.599 like you said, heberger like where he's a kid and 1103 00:55:46.679 --> 00:55:50.199 then he's an adult and he sees, you know, the 1104 00:55:51.519 --> 00:55:55.039 conductor look at him and like with his zombie. 1105 00:55:54.760 --> 00:55:57.039 Eyes, weird nightmare, you know, dude. 1106 00:55:57.119 --> 00:55:58.039 It was awesome. 1107 00:55:58.519 --> 00:56:00.440 And then he's normal and then obviously all of a sudden, 1108 00:56:00.440 --> 00:56:01.239 everybody's looking at you. 1109 00:56:01.800 --> 00:56:03.920 Yeah, and he keeps getting bit and stuff like that, 1110 00:56:04.000 --> 00:56:06.599 and he just rolls all these motherfuckers out the window. 1111 00:56:06.679 --> 00:56:07.239 That was great. 1112 00:56:07.480 --> 00:56:09.239 And then we don't focus for him on him for 1113 00:56:09.280 --> 00:56:11.239 a while. We go back to the to the Bone 1114 00:56:11.280 --> 00:56:15.519 temple and the fucking I like how Ray fines Ralphie finesse. 1115 00:56:15.599 --> 00:56:18.039 He says I'm gonna die he has He says we'll 1116 00:56:18.079 --> 00:56:20.000 die it up to eleven. I like that's final tap 1117 00:56:20.039 --> 00:56:24.239 for yeah, yeah, yeah, And just to talk on that, 1118 00:56:24.440 --> 00:56:27.639 the pageantry of like his performance, like maybe it could 1119 00:56:27.639 --> 00:56:29.360 take some people out of it. I think it seals 1120 00:56:29.400 --> 00:56:32.079 the deal for like, I really like that moment. I think, 1121 00:56:32.559 --> 00:56:34.480 I don't know, just the idea of like them thinking 1122 00:56:34.559 --> 00:56:37.679 he's old Nick and then Jimmy even thinking for a 1123 00:56:37.760 --> 00:56:39.639 moment like I don't even know is the old Nick. 1124 00:56:39.679 --> 00:56:42.199 And then he you know, realizing like, oh, you're just 1125 00:56:42.280 --> 00:56:44.280 kind of like a chill dude, and this kind of 1126 00:56:44.320 --> 00:56:45.679 sucks because is not going to ask you to do 1127 00:56:45.760 --> 00:56:48.800 this thing otherwise I gotta kill you. Uh, but he does. 1128 00:56:48.880 --> 00:56:49.599 He goes all out. 1129 00:56:49.920 --> 00:56:50.079 You know. 1130 00:56:50.280 --> 00:56:52.519 I like that Ray find some of his characters. Like 1131 00:56:52.599 --> 00:56:55.320 you said, he's achieved his work. There's nothing else for him. 1132 00:56:55.360 --> 00:56:58.039 He can't leave the island. Uh, he doesn't. He's not 1133 00:56:58.079 --> 00:57:00.159 gonna kill himself. But also he'll put him solf off 1134 00:57:00.159 --> 00:57:01.960 at a harm's way, I think for something he believes in, 1135 00:57:02.119 --> 00:57:05.440 or like maybe something if he's helping somebody. So even this, 1136 00:57:05.599 --> 00:57:07.719 I guess he sees like I don't know something in it, 1137 00:57:08.079 --> 00:57:10.239 because he could probably tell Jimmy's a piece of shit. 1138 00:57:10.360 --> 00:57:14.000 I mean, well, he does know that that conversation that 1139 00:57:14.119 --> 00:57:17.800 they have, you know, there's this serene green there's a 1140 00:57:18.360 --> 00:57:20.800 like a beautiful river in the background, and they're just 1141 00:57:20.880 --> 00:57:23.920 having this conversation. He's like, dude, your black job. 1142 00:57:24.519 --> 00:57:26.880 He only says turning, changing his mind when Jimmy says 1143 00:57:26.960 --> 00:57:29.039 laying it on thick about what they're going to be doing. 1144 00:57:29.119 --> 00:57:31.039 But even then he doesn't seem too faced about it 1145 00:57:31.119 --> 00:57:33.000 until he realized the Spike's going to be doing it 1146 00:57:33.119 --> 00:57:33.519 with them. 1147 00:57:34.119 --> 00:57:35.079 Well yeah, but. 1148 00:57:35.119 --> 00:57:38.000 There's no Spike moments before. I guess to tie that 1149 00:57:38.079 --> 00:57:40.440 in as much so we get I get the emotional 1150 00:57:40.480 --> 00:57:45.599 moment of Kelson, you know his aspect there, right, but. 1151 00:57:45.679 --> 00:57:49.159 But like they had that conversation of you know, talking 1152 00:57:49.199 --> 00:57:51.000 about the dad and stuff like that, and you're right, 1153 00:57:51.159 --> 00:57:56.239 he has no reaction to this kid to Sir Jimmy 1154 00:57:56.320 --> 00:57:58.880 and was like, Okay, yeah, I'll do what you need to. 1155 00:57:59.320 --> 00:58:01.519 Oh you're going to wreck me by taking my guts 1156 00:58:01.559 --> 00:58:05.559 out or taking my intestines out whatever, And it's just like, Okay, 1157 00:58:05.840 --> 00:58:07.199 I'll do this for you or whatever. 1158 00:58:07.679 --> 00:58:09.880 Because he does drug them, but it's sort of just 1159 00:58:10.000 --> 00:58:11.440 to enhance the performance. 1160 00:58:11.880 --> 00:58:12.480 Is that drug? 1161 00:58:12.840 --> 00:58:15.519 What is that that they know something in their face, 1162 00:58:15.960 --> 00:58:18.960 it's something it gives them an effect because their their 1163 00:58:19.039 --> 00:58:23.079 visions all blurred in and he's like coming true his 1164 00:58:23.280 --> 00:58:28.280 fucking Voldemort at that point. You know he's fucking when 1165 00:58:28.320 --> 00:58:31.079 he costume changes and comes out with this fucking shakers 1166 00:58:31.159 --> 00:58:33.920 like the around that was amazing. 1167 00:58:34.440 --> 00:58:35.679 Yeah, that's a cool show. 1168 00:58:35.719 --> 00:58:37.800 Imagine living in the apocalypse and all of a

sudden, 1169 00:58:38.000 --> 00:58:41.239 this is like there's nothing to do except people apparently 1170 00:58:41.400 --> 00:58:44.559 skin people, but like what they find something to do? 1171 00:58:44.719 --> 00:58:47.440 You know, yeah, this big alphans run around don swinging, 1172 00:58:47.519 --> 00:58:49.880 but then you find this fucking this is like an 1173 00:58:49.920 --> 00:58:53.599 amazing show The Ring of fire Bones, and it's cool. 1174 00:58:53.920 --> 00:58:55.679 It was a good show. John, Do I have trivia 1175 00:58:55.719 --> 00:58:56.000 about what? 1176 00:58:56.599 --> 00:58:57.360 Uh? What? 1177 00:58:57.800 --> 00:59:01.239 What the substance that gut him to face all the kids? 1178 00:59:01.599 --> 00:59:01.639 No? 1179 00:59:01.840 --> 00:59:02.199 I didn't. 1180 00:59:03.639 --> 00:59:03.880 It was. 1181 00:59:06.000 --> 00:59:07.920 Heyderberg. To respond to your comment. 1182 00:59:08.000 --> 00:59:11.639 I I do like that scene in and of itself, 1183 00:59:11.719 --> 00:59:17.000 I think ray Fines' performance is really good there. It's 1184 00:59:17.159 --> 00:59:18.840 in and of itself, I think it's good. But again, 1185 00:59:18.880 --> 00:59:21.400 in the larger narrative, I see no point for it. 1186 00:59:22.400 --> 00:59:26.199 I like what I would have preferred is, like again, 1187 00:59:26.199 --> 00:59:27.880 I don't need the Satanist. 1188 00:59:27.519 --> 00:59:30.000 Aspect in this whole ruse that he's got to pretend 1189 00:59:30.079 --> 00:59:31.079 to be old Nick like. 1190 00:59:31.559 --> 00:59:33.800 I think it would just be more effective if he 1191 00:59:33.920 --> 00:59:36.280 were leading a gang of criminals that were infiltrated in 1192 00:59:36.360 --> 00:59:39.039 the camp and try Kelson's camp and trying to like 1193 00:59:39.159 --> 00:59:42.159 drain his resources and suck it all up for themselves, 1194 00:59:42.280 --> 00:59:45.880 like entering his perfect oas well. Oasis may be a 1195 00:59:45.920 --> 00:59:48.840 strong word, but his safe his safe place that he's 1196 00:59:48.920 --> 00:59:53.760 built and infiltrating it and he has to like defend it. 1197 00:59:53.960 --> 00:59:54.119 Right. 1198 00:59:54.159 --> 00:59:55.519 But I don't need sam. 1199 00:59:56.159 --> 00:59:58.599 I don't need this, I don't need this ritualistic thing. 1200 00:59:58.760 --> 01:00:00.119 It does feel out of place. 1201 01:00:01.679 --> 01:00:03.719 In the larger narrative. In and of itself, I think 1202 01:00:03.719 --> 01:00:06.719 it's entertaining and well done, but on a larger scale, 1203 01:00:06.719 --> 01:00:08.360 I don't. I don't see the point of it. 1204 01:00:08.559 --> 01:00:11.679 But but but also Jacqueline, they were like on the 1205 01:00:11.760 --> 01:00:19.280 outskirts and you know, uh, sir Sir Jimmy like was like, yes, 1206 01:00:19.719 --> 01:00:22.840 that is that is him, and it was like, so 1207 01:00:22.960 --> 01:00:24.800 he goes down there, I'm going to talk to him. 1208 01:00:25.039 --> 01:00:34.320 He realizes that it's not doctor Satan. Quotes written and 1209 01:00:34.360 --> 01:00:35.639 directed by Rob Zombie. 1210 01:00:36.960 --> 01:00:37.559 It was a twofer. 1211 01:00:38.079 --> 01:00:41.559 It was a two for John refreshed my memory when 1212 01:00:41.599 --> 01:00:44.440 he when Sir Jimmy first goes down to talk to 1213 01:00:44.559 --> 01:00:47.280 Kelson while the rest of the fingers hang behind. He 1214 01:00:47.440 --> 01:00:49.960 really believes at first that he's old Nick right. Yes, 1215 01:00:50.880 --> 01:00:53.960 he legit believes that this is Satan right, and then 1216 01:00:54.039 --> 01:00:56.440 he realizes eventually this not and then he you know, 1217 01:00:56.639 --> 01:00:59.760 kind of coerces him into pretending right, And but it. 1218 01:00:59.880 --> 01:01:02.800 Was like we can have a conversation, Like Kelson goes, 1219 01:01:03.079 --> 01:01:04.159 let's have a convers. 1220 01:01:03.920 --> 01:01:06.239 Buying into his own bullshit. I think at that moment 1221 01:01:06.440 --> 01:01:09.880 and he's actually believing, like possibly, is this guy fucking 1222 01:01:10.119 --> 01:01:13.239 my father. I've been speaking these lies so much. I 1223 01:01:13.320 --> 01:01:15.960 think that he believes his own bullshit because it's all 1224 01:01:16.000 --> 01:01:19.119 he's ever had, because he doesn't know anything, because year 1225 01:01:19.119 --> 01:01:21.199 old kid raising himself in this fucking world, I don't know. 1226 01:01:21.320 --> 01:01:23.960 Sure, no, no, And that's you know, that's sad to 1227 01:01:24.079 --> 01:01:26.719 think about. But like, like he just he believes in 1228 01:01:26.840 --> 01:01:29.719 his own bullshit, and it's just like, I control you. 1229 01:01:30.039 --> 01:01:32.239 You were going to play this part for me to 1230 01:01:32.639 --> 01:01:35.079 make my followers believe this. 1231 01:01:35.840 --> 01:01:38.199 Yeah, So again, I just wish that wasn't part of it. 1232 01:01:38.360 --> 01:01:41.079 Like I think, like I could totally buy it if 1233 01:01:41.119 --> 01:01:46.239 he just used Satanism as a way of controlling him 1234 01:01:46.239 --> 01:01:50.440 and the followers, but himself knowing that it's all bullshit, 1235 01:01:50.920 --> 01:01:55.599 And so this part ruins that, like because it would 1236 01:01:55.639 --> 01:01:57.480 make sense if he were just trying to lead this 1237 01:01:57.639 --> 01:02:00.440 cult and he's like created this thing around Satan but 1238 01:02:00.599 --> 01:02:02.159 doesn't actually believe it himself. 1239 01:02:02.239 --> 01:02:05.920 And the way that that scene plays out ruins what 1240 01:02:06.079 --> 01:02:09.880 could have been a reasonable explanation for the dynamics of 1241 01:02:09.920 --> 01:02:10.320 this group. 1242 01:02:10.960 --> 01:02:13.039 So I just think I don't like it, but he 1243 01:02:13.159 --> 01:02:15.239 knows at that point, But I don't. 1244 01:02:15.199 -->

01:02:18.320 Like it that he really believes that his father is Satan. 1245 01:02:18.360 --> 01:02:20.960 I just think it's silly and pointless. 1246 01:02:21.320 --> 01:02:23.239 Yeah, I don't know where they go with that, you know, 1247 01:02:23.400 --> 01:02:23.760 I don't know. 1248 01:02:24.039 --> 01:02:27.880 Well, it was convoluted for me that, you know, having 1249 01:02:27.920 --> 01:02:30.840 the conversation with Ian that that he was talking about 1250 01:02:30.840 --> 01:02:34.440 his father was a preacher and then you know, switched 1251 01:02:34.480 --> 01:02:36.519 it to no, he's actually Satan. 1252 01:02:36.840 --> 01:02:40.639 And I'm answering maybe because he just misinterpreted being a 1253 01:02:40.719 --> 01:02:43.440 child what his father did. You know, his father sort 1254 01:02:43.440 --> 01:02:48.719 of his father embracing the zombies coming as the rapture thinging, 1255 01:02:49.079 --> 01:02:51.920 you know, sort of in that aspect, and he saw 1256 01:02:52.000 --> 01:02:54.559 it as like his dad ushering in zombies, as like 1257 01:02:55.000 --> 01:02:57.639 ushering in the evil that the world became. So he 1258 01:02:57.719 --> 01:02:59.440 saw it as like, oh, my dad must have been 1259 01:03:00.039 --> 01:03:03.000 He remembers his dad being somewhat related to the church, 1260 01:03:03.079 --> 01:03:05.280 and he must have maybe thought like, oh, he must 1261 01:03:05.320 --> 01:03:07.719 have been in the Satan or that's what he wants 1262 01:03:07.719 --> 01:03:10.039 me to be into. I don't know, or I thought 1263 01:03:10.079 --> 01:03:12.119 it was an inversion on what his dad was into, 1264 01:03:12.280 --> 01:03:14.599 Like fuck you, dad, I'm going to go into Satanism 1265 01:03:15.079 --> 01:03:17.280 because you were a priest. You know. I don't know, 1266 01:03:17.440 --> 01:03:19.239 but yeah, there's nothing there either way. 1267 01:03:19.239 --> 01:03:21.159 I feel like you're giving the movie a lot of credit, 1268 01:03:22.039 --> 01:03:23.159 like like the. 1269 01:03:23.239 --> 01:03:26.559 Charter, I like the character, and it's odd, like he's 1270 01:03:26.639 --> 01:03:28.800 kind of the character, like I don't need much for 1271 01:03:28.960 --> 01:03:30.960 it to work in this film. He's not going to 1272 01:03:31.000 --> 01:03:32.039 be in the next one, you. 1273 01:03:32.079 --> 01:03:34.880 Know, So no, that's not true. 1274 01:03:36.360 --> 01:03:38.679 Like there is a zombie that comes towards him, and 1275 01:03:39.000 --> 01:03:41.400 do we see it blurred? It's a red like a 1276 01:03:41.480 --> 01:03:44.480 red blur character, Sampson. It's just a zombie. 1277 01:03:45.320 --> 01:03:45.519 Yeah. 1278 01:03:46.639 --> 01:03:51.199 I mean, I don't know what's gonna happen in the 1279 01:03:51.280 --> 01:03:52.880 final movie. I don't know if they're going to like 1280 01:03:53.000 --> 01:03:55.400 sort of clear up some of this stuff. But I 1281 01:03:55.800 --> 01:03:58.400 just I feel like this movie is really suffering from 1282 01:03:58.519 --> 01:03:59.960 second movie in a trilogy syndrome. 1283 01:04:00.039 --> 01:04:01.599 I mean, yeah, who are the bad guys in the 1284 01:04:01.679 --> 01:04:04.679 next one? If who's like, who's chasing the kids? Because 1285 01:04:04.960 --> 01:04:08.320 it's just zombies nothing, just more infected. And so then 1286 01:04:08.400 --> 01:04:11.239 what's the altercation that they're going to get into once 1287 01:04:11.280 --> 01:04:13.079 they're there, because I feel like they're gonna be bringing 1288 01:04:13.119 --> 01:04:16.239 some kind of danger to what's his name's character? 1289 01:04:16.760 --> 01:04:16.960 Yeah? 1290 01:04:17.079 --> 01:04:18.760 Jim? Was that his name from the first one? 1291 01:04:18.840 --> 01:04:19.000 Jim? 1292 01:04:21.239 --> 01:04:25.880 Do we think that's his daughter that he had with Yeah, yeah, 1293 01:04:28.280 --> 01:04:29.199 what happened to her though? 1294 01:04:29.519 --> 01:04:32.679 I don't know, well that not knowing, because it feels 1295 01:04:32.800 --> 01:04:36.000 like that's meant to be uh a little bit of 1296 01:04:36.039 --> 01:04:36.719 a cliffhanger. 1297 01:04:37.119 --> 01:04:38.559 Yeah, maybe they'll talk about. 1298 01:04:38.360 --> 01:04:41.000 It at the end of kill Bill Volume one. 1299 01:04:41.159 --> 01:04:43.480 I'm actually excited to see more of Spikes because I 1300 01:04:43.519 --> 01:04:46.960 think we're gonna get more Spikes development here now now 1301 01:04:47.039 --> 01:04:50.440 that he's with Kelly and Killian Murphy's character, Like sorry, 1302 01:04:50.920 --> 01:04:53.079 Like I think, yeah, I think we're gonna get more there. 1303 01:04:53.119 --> 01:04:54.800 So yeah, I think that he kind of took a 1304 01:04:54.880 --> 01:04:56.800 back seat in this one because we really needed to 1305 01:04:56.880 --> 01:05:01.000 shine the light on the doctor and Samson and then yeah, 1306 01:05:01.239 --> 01:05:02.360 Jimmy's just too much. 1307 01:05:02.480 --> 01:05:06.000 You know what's gonna happen with though, because he got 1308 01:05:06.079 --> 01:05:07.760 taken away, you don't know if he died. 1309 01:05:08.119 --> 01:05:09.159 I think I'm pretty sure. 1310 01:05:09.880 --> 01:05:12.599 I think Sampson's in touch with his Humanity's gonna barry him. 1311 01:05:13.320 --> 01:05:14.880 I think you're probably right about that. 1312 01:05:15.079 --> 01:05:16.800 I hope maybe with his bare hands. I don't know 1313 01:05:16.840 --> 01:05:18.599 how he's gonna do it if he's a tool, but 1314 01:05:18.599 --> 01:05:19.559 I think he's gonna bear him. 1315 01:05:19.800 --> 01:05:21.480 Do you think Sampson is going to be back in 1316 01:05:21.559 --> 01:05:22.079 the third one. 1317 01:05:22.719 --> 01:05:25.760 Yeah maybe, but like Lucid, I would welcome. I would 1318 01:05:26.039 --> 01:05:29.239 were going to see what the next like evolution might be. 1319 01:05:29.480 --> 01:05:31.239 What if the zombies

that bid him while he was 1320 01:05:31.320 --> 01:05:35.199 on the train are now lucid they might while he 1321 01:05:35.440 --> 01:05:39.119 was lucid. Now there might be that would be interesting. Yes, 1322 01:05:39.679 --> 01:05:44.760 it looks like we killed with zombies sort of. So 1323 01:05:44.840 --> 01:05:47.559 it's going to be like, you know, they've evolved and 1324 01:05:47.639 --> 01:05:49.360 you have to respect us. We're gonna be our own 1325 01:05:49.360 --> 01:05:50.920 people and we're gonna go here, or there's gonna be 1326 01:05:50.960 --> 01:05:51.840 like a big war. I don't know. 1327 01:05:52.280 --> 01:05:53.760 It's gonna be a thriller video. 1328 01:05:55.000 --> 01:06:03.280 Yeah, Like do we like that little ending scene with 1329 01:06:03.360 --> 01:06:05.639 killing Murphy bringing that Jack? 1330 01:06:06.880 --> 01:06:07.639 I loved it. 1331 01:06:07.960 --> 01:06:11.440 I loved it so kind of heartwarming and it gave 1332 01:06:11.480 --> 01:06:14.800 me a thrill of like, all right, cool, what's happen next? 1333 01:06:14.920 --> 01:06:16.239 I know they're going to end it there. I'm like, 1334 01:06:16.239 --> 01:06:17.039 you're gonna end it here? 1335 01:06:18.320 --> 01:06:21.519 Absolutely, But I mean like I really enjoyed that because 1336 01:06:21.559 --> 01:06:23.960 it was like I love the first movie, the first movie, 1337 01:06:26.639 --> 01:06:29.119 and it was just like you know, the daughter asked him, 1338 01:06:29.199 --> 01:06:31.880 He's like should we say him? He goes, of course 1339 01:06:31.920 --> 01:06:35.119 we do, yeah, and then like the pan out and 1340 01:06:35.239 --> 01:06:37.599 it was like beautiful afraid. 1341 01:06:38.039 --> 01:06:40.960 I'm afraid of Kelly what she's gonna do. Like she's 1342 01:06:41.000 --> 01:06:43.239 not a good person, really, we don't know that for sure, 1343 01:06:43.400 --> 01:06:45.360 Like she might want to be, but she's been on 1344 01:06:45.440 --> 01:06:47.159 that Jimmy train for a while. 1345 01:06:47.800 --> 01:06:48.559 Is she still working? 1346 01:06:51.639 --> 01:06:52.239 She is? 1347 01:06:52.320 --> 01:06:55.599 She No, she threw down the wig as they were. 1348 01:06:56.239 --> 01:06:58.280 But she's still got an upside down crossing her head 1349 01:06:58.320 --> 01:07:00.719 and she's done. There's a lot still. You don't just 1350 01:07:00.800 --> 01:07:03.719 turn that off. So that's what I'm fraid you're gonna see. 1351 01:07:04.360 --> 01:07:07.079 You might see her struggle, you know. I'm afraid of 1352 01:07:07.159 --> 01:07:10.559 what might happen. Hopefully, hopefully her character's okay and she 1353 01:07:10.639 --> 01:07:11.480 doesn't hurt anybody. 1354 01:07:11.920 --> 01:07:12.880 Here's what I'm afraid of. 1355 01:07:13.320 --> 01:07:17.440 I'm afraid of that in the third movie, Killian Murphy's 1356 01:07:17.480 --> 01:07:20.119 character might not be in it at all or very minimally. 1357 01:07:21.519 --> 01:07:23.719 To me, that would make it so clear that this 1358 01:07:23.840 --> 01:07:27.079 little ending scene and whatever appearance he might have in 1359 01:07:27.159 --> 01:07:29.519 the third one is just like fan lip service, like 1360 01:07:29.639 --> 01:07:31.159 kind of pandering. 1361 01:07:31.159 --> 01:07:33.079 I'm gonna have the other dad show up, and then 1362 01:07:33.119 --> 01:07:35.639 it's gonna be two dads like, no, he's my son now, 1363 01:07:35.679 --> 01:07:36.880 and that's my son. 1364 01:07:37.199 --> 01:07:39.559 The thermostat should be at sixty eight, or we're. 1365 01:07:39.480 --> 01:07:42.559 Gonna have two dads will raise him because Mom will 1366 01:07:42.559 --> 01:07:44.800 probably have died from the brain. Mom did die, That's right, 1367 01:07:45.280 --> 01:07:47.199 she died. She's a top top bone. 1368 01:07:48.440 --> 01:07:48.559 Uh. 1369 01:07:48.760 --> 01:07:51.159 And then so dad, it's just two dads, So the 1370 01:07:51.199 --> 01:07:52.880 two dads will raise two. Wasn't that? 1371 01:07:53.440 --> 01:07:58.239 Maybe it was. 1372 01:08:00.039 --> 01:08:02.000 The show before that, I think, and then they and 1373 01:08:02.079 --> 01:08:06.159 then they made a remake of but what if? What 1374 01:08:06.239 --> 01:08:08.840 if they invite them back to the compound, you know, 1375 01:08:08.960 --> 01:08:12.360 like whatever happens with you? And then maybe dad shows 1376 01:08:12.440 --> 01:08:17.600 up what's his name Taylor's character and his you know, 1377 01:08:17.720 --> 01:08:19.439 he's like comes to save his son or whatever, and 1378 01:08:19.479 --> 01:08:22.199 they got it like it was Taylor's character, What was 1379 01:08:22.800 --> 01:08:27.760 the actor? What was the dad's name? Aaron Taylor Spike? 1380 01:08:28.800 --> 01:08:30.399 Yeah, okay, okay, sorry. 1381 01:08:30.239 --> 01:08:34.560 I wasn't Yeah, I forgot his name, Aaron Tayler's. I 1382 01:08:34.560 --> 01:08:36.399 always want to say an your tailor Joy when I go. 1383 01:08:38.520 --> 01:08:40.920 Its like the same three name thing has to stop. 1384 01:08:41.439 --> 01:08:46.600 Yeah, it's like stop with this. Uh but yeah, yeah, 1385 01:08:46.600 --> 01:08:48.159 maybe he shows up and he's like, all right, fine, 1386 01:08:48.239 --> 01:08:50.119 come with me, Like I saw you that you risk 1387 01:08:50.159 --> 01:08:52.880 your dream actor save my son. So you guys can 1388 01:08:52.960 --> 01:08:55.119 stay in the compound because maybe their house goes to 1389 01:08:55.159 --> 01:08:55.840 ship or something. 1390 01:08:56.119 --> 01:08:57.880 That would be a good I would I would welcome that. 1391 01:08:58.399 --> 01:09:00.920 Yeah, and maybe even a you know, Kelly's got to 1392 01:09:00.960 --> 01:09:03.079 go and play nice in order to be part of 1393 01:09:03.199 --> 01:09:05.199 society again, She's gonna have to play nice. 1394 01:09:05.039 --> 01:09:06.279 So that would be interesting. 1395 01:09:06.359 --> 01:09:08.199 That'll be new

for her. Maybe they could develop that. 1396 01:09:08.600 --> 01:09:12.520 I don't know, I hope, So I like, yeah, I 1397 01:09:13.000 --> 01:09:15.640 like the fact that Gus brought up. I think it's 1398 01:09:15.680 --> 01:09:17.800 going to bring one and two together and then we're 1399 01:09:17.880 --> 01:09:19.960 just going to see this kind of like major battle. 1400 01:09:20.359 --> 01:09:23.600 So I'm down to watch the next one. I really 1401 01:09:23.760 --> 01:09:24.119 am too. 1402 01:09:25.239 --> 01:09:27.239 I'm I'm retaining my high hopes. 1403 01:09:27.680 --> 01:09:30.520 Yeah, I don't know what we're battling, Like, what's our 1404 01:09:30.600 --> 01:09:35.520 main other than optimistic maybe getting off the fucking island finally, 1405 01:09:35.720 --> 01:09:40.199 like just like claiming, you know, reclaiming it because the 1406 01:09:40.239 --> 01:09:42.279 rest of the world is like fine, you know, they're 1407 01:09:42.359 --> 01:09:44.560 just like, hey, you guys can't come off that island 1408 01:09:44.560 --> 01:09:47.039 because we had you had an accident there, and it's 1409 01:09:47.079 --> 01:09:48.880 sort of like, well, fuck you, there's still people here. 1410 01:09:49.279 --> 01:09:51.720 Yeah, they just kind of let England go just like yes, 1411 01:09:51.880 --> 01:09:56.399 write it off, you know. So maybe just maybe the zombies, 1412 01:09:56.520 --> 01:09:59.279 like what happens if they don't eat brains? Like do 1413 01:09:59.399 --> 01:09:59.760 they die? 1414 01:10:00.399 --> 01:10:02.439 I don't know, or like like I said, maybe it 1415 01:10:02.520 --> 01:10:06.199 isn't they just start spreads and they become more human. 1416 01:10:06.800 --> 01:10:09.159 Very yeah. 1417 01:10:09.800 --> 01:10:13.279 Yeah, By the way, did you guys listen to that 1418 01:10:13.720 --> 01:10:14.119 moon Zob? 1419 01:10:15.760 --> 01:10:16.960 It's been a very to it. 1420 01:10:17.279 --> 01:10:18.960 A little snazzy. It's a little snazzy. 1421 01:10:19.000 --> 01:10:20.520 It's like Jesus Chris. 1422 01:10:20.720 --> 01:10:24.439 It's a jangle. It's a jangle, it's a bob. 1423 01:10:26.520 --> 01:10:27.800 Does it or does it fly? 1424 01:10:28.760 --> 01:10:33.920 You know, I don't know what. I don't know what 1425 01:10:34.079 --> 01:10:35.560 you expect from you. 1426 01:10:36.880 --> 01:10:39.039 It's not going to be like a Celendon level. 1427 01:10:39.560 --> 01:10:42.159 Yeah, it's bad. 1428 01:10:42.760 --> 01:10:43.359 Okay, I'm going to. 1429 01:10:43.399 --> 01:10:46.159 Listen to it immediately after we stopped recording, which I 1430 01:10:46.239 --> 01:10:48.560 think maybe we're getting close to because it sounds like 1431 01:10:48.600 --> 01:10:50.560 we're running out of things to say. Are we ready 1432 01:10:50.680 --> 01:10:51.399 to wrap it up? 1433 01:10:51.600 --> 01:10:52.880 Or yeah? 1434 01:10:53.439 --> 01:10:57.159 Okay, let's give our individual reviews shown this was your pick? 1435 01:10:57.399 --> 01:10:58.399 You go first to my. 1436 01:10:58.479 --> 01:11:01.439 Friend, Well, thank you, Jacqueline. 1437 01:11:03.319 --> 01:11:06.119 You gave it eight point five. Or John, I think 1438 01:11:06.119 --> 01:11:08.359 you gave it eight point five. Hyderberg maybe a seven 1439 01:11:09.279 --> 01:11:09.800 something like that. 1440 01:11:10.840 --> 01:11:12.359 All right, okay, go ahead. 1441 01:11:12.840 --> 01:11:15.279 Yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna say that that I actually 1442 01:11:15.399 --> 01:11:18.279 really enjoyed this movie. You haven't talked me down, Jacqueline. 1443 01:11:18.279 --> 01:11:18.880 I understand. 1444 01:11:18.920 --> 01:11:19.199 I don't know. 1445 01:11:19.439 --> 01:11:19.880 I'm trying to. 1446 01:11:20.279 --> 01:11:24.359 Yeah, I understand why you didn't like it, But for me, 1447 01:11:24.680 --> 01:11:28.079 it was just so entertaining. The one other thing we 1448 01:11:28.159 --> 01:11:32.199 haven't talked about runtime our like forty three hour, forty 1449 01:11:32.239 --> 01:11:37.159 five forty nine. Yeah, it wasn't overly long, it didn't overstay. 1450 01:11:37.199 --> 01:11:41.560 It's welcome. I can understand your your feeling about Spike 1451 01:11:41.880 --> 01:11:45.800 being the main focus of the movie, but I like 1452 01:11:45.920 --> 01:11:49.039 the way it intertwined with everything. You know, the fact 1453 01:11:49.119 --> 01:11:52.680 that Sir Jimmy, you know, was at the end of 1454 01:11:52.840 --> 01:11:54.880 the first one, was that, Sir. 1455 01:11:54.880 --> 01:11:59.239 Jimmy Crystal, Sir Lord Jimmy Crystal, Sir Lord Jimmy Crystal. 1456 01:11:59.399 --> 01:11:59.920 It's longer. 1457 01:12:00.840 --> 01:12:02.920 I feel like that's the name of like a show 1458 01:12:03.039 --> 01:12:05.119 dog at Westminster, Like they all have those. 1459 01:12:05.039 --> 01:12:10.159 Long names, or somebody has a regal pass. 1460 01:12:14.199 --> 01:12:16.920 You Also, tomorrow morning, John. 1461 01:12:18.159 --> 01:12:24.960 Ma is gonna be in the Westminster Dogs s Bestberg Crystal. 1462 01:12:28.399 --> 01:12:33.359 Don't do very very blue mouth drinks because it's a 1463 01:12:33.479 --> 01:12:39.000 three movie Crystal blue anyway, John, Sorry, ahead, Yes, I 1464 01:12:39.640 --> 01:12:41.960 love the acting on this movie. It was just so 1465 01:12:42.119 --> 01:12:45.159 much fun for me. I'm you know, I think I'm 1466 01:12:45.239 --> 01:12:47.720 right around where I was before. I'm gonna give this 1467 01:12:47.800 --> 01:12:52.199 an eight point five out of Dong swinging to electric boogaloo. 1468 01:12:53.439 --> 01:12:59.800 Dong swinging to electric boogaloo, my name. 1469 01:13:01.159 --> 01:13:02.880 Google, but does not. 1470 01:13:02.960 --> 01:13:04.680 Try to auto correct boogaloo anymore. 1471 01:13:05.520 --> 01:13:10.720 Yeah, good, hydro. Eight point five of them. 1472 01:13:11.720 --> 01:13:15.720 That's a lot of dogs. Y what do you say? Sorry, 1473 01:13:16.239 -->

01:13:16.479 had a. 1474 01:13:16.600 --> 01:13:22.399 Baby arm for a dog? Oh my god, wow, wow wow. 1475 01:13:25.439 --> 01:13:30.600 See even though Will agrees with us, yeah, thoughts. 1476 01:13:30.880 --> 01:13:35.159 My thoughts. Yeah, I think pros this is a gorgeous film. 1477 01:13:35.199 --> 01:13:38.760 I think it's like cinematic scope is really good. I 1478 01:13:38.960 --> 01:13:41.680 just it looks really good. It's framed well. It's just 1479 01:13:41.760 --> 01:13:44.640 like the settings look good. We have a contrast of 1480 01:13:44.760 --> 01:13:47.760 settings that I really like. Like, I think the film's 1481 01:13:47.800 --> 01:13:49.840 just a joy to look at. The little cows are 1482 01:13:49.920 --> 01:13:53.720 like very rich. I love the the settings in general, 1483 01:13:53.840 --> 01:13:57.359 like the barn, the that compound, the sort of the 1484 01:13:58.079 --> 01:14:01.560 the natural look of that that's and then the bone 1485 01:14:01.600 --> 01:14:04.000 temple just being what it is. It's like abstract in 1486 01:14:04.079 --> 01:14:06.880 a way, it's its own thing. It's a it's it's 1487 01:14:07.199 --> 01:14:09.000 it's also like a piece of artwork that you kind 1488 01:14:09.039 --> 01:14:11.439 of have to visit, like almost view from like up 1489 01:14:11.479 --> 01:14:13.640 above in a way to see it whole, you know. 1490 01:14:15.000 --> 01:14:19.239 But it's this weird structure, but it's also in contrast 1491 01:14:19.279 --> 01:14:21.960 with beautiful nature as well, and so it's really cool. 1492 01:14:22.000 --> 01:14:25.560 It's like life and death just mixed together. I thought 1493 01:14:25.680 --> 01:14:27.760 it was really cool too. The Bone Temple shines as 1494 01:14:27.800 --> 01:14:29.720 like the main stage for the film for a majority 1495 01:14:29.800 --> 01:14:31.479 of it. I thought it was really nice to come 1496 01:14:31.560 --> 01:14:33.600 back to this locale that we got a glimpse of 1497 01:14:34.079 --> 01:14:37.199 and some of in the last movie, but it was 1498 01:14:37.319 --> 01:14:39.279 like it was shrouded in mystery in the first film. 1499 01:14:39.319 --> 01:14:41.399 It was like a play a destination and then we 1500 01:14:41.479 --> 01:14:43.079 got there and it was like, okay, we ended the 1501 01:14:43.119 --> 01:14:45.680 film here. So it's cool to come back to that 1502 01:14:46.000 --> 01:14:49.840 and see how Kelso sort of lives. Kelson lives there, 1503 01:14:50.159 --> 01:14:52.319 you know, from a day to day kind of basis, 1504 01:14:52.359 --> 01:14:54.640 and what he's been doing with himself and how you know, 1505 01:14:54.720 --> 01:14:58.079 now that he's done, I think I think the cost 1506 01:14:58.159 --> 01:15:00.359 of needed to cost a really direct shit this one. 1507 01:15:00.439 --> 01:15:03.079 I think I think it's really well done. You know, 1508 01:15:03.159 --> 01:15:05.960 it's different than the other film in a way tonally, 1509 01:15:06.880 --> 01:15:10.119 but it feels connected still by the story. I do think, yeah, 1510 01:15:10.560 --> 01:15:13.119 we lose a little bit of a what's his name's character. 1511 01:15:13.159 --> 01:15:15.640 I'll get to that, but uh, I think overall, I 1512 01:15:15.760 --> 01:15:17.680 do think this still plays in the same world and 1513 01:15:17.760 --> 01:15:21.000 I like that. And so, you know, like some of 1514 01:15:21.000 --> 01:15:22.880 the stuff that I thought with negatives in the first one, 1515 01:15:23.119 --> 01:15:26.520 I've grown on too, Like like the Alphas themselves, they're cool. 1516 01:15:26.680 --> 01:15:28.560 I guess they're like really big, strong zombies, but I 1517 01:15:28.560 --> 01:15:30.640 didn't understand how they got there, like to be like 1518 01:15:30.720 --> 01:15:32.880 that in the first one. In the last one, you 1519 01:15:32.960 --> 01:15:35.760 agree with doctor Buzzkill, Yeah, well I didn't understand like 1520 01:15:36.000 --> 01:15:38.279 the slow ones that can only crawl once in a while, 1521 01:15:38.359 --> 01:15:40.640 they're so fattening, gorged, Like I don't know, like what 1522 01:15:40.760 --> 01:15:43.000 did they do? You know, what happened to them? So 1523 01:15:43.159 --> 01:15:44.840 like what was the change? You know what I mean? 1524 01:15:44.880 --> 01:15:46.560 And then you get the runners and like I get it, 1525 01:15:46.640 --> 01:15:48.760 like I played video games with varieties of zombies and 1526 01:15:48.800 --> 01:15:50.600 you gotta take them down different ways, but you get 1527 01:15:50.600 --> 01:15:53.840 your bloaters and stuff like that. But why, there's no 1528 01:15:53.960 --> 01:15:56.079 reasoning why, And like I don't need all the whyse either, 1529 01:15:56.079 --> 01:15:58.000 because that might just be dumb, you know, so I'm 1530 01:15:58.039 --> 01:16:01.720 afraid of hearing the why maybe, but there is it 1531 01:16:01.920 --> 01:16:04.720 leads to some reasoning to think, like, well, what happens 1532 01:16:04.760 --> 01:16:07.560 to an alpha, Like is it just the biggest guy 1533 01:16:07.640 --> 01:16:10.640 in the room who becomes an alpha zombie? Like is 1534 01:16:10.680 --> 01:16:13.000 that part of it? Or is it a I don't know. 1535 01:16:13.520 --> 01:16:16.319 Is it nature versus nurture? We don't know. 1536 01:16:17.640 --> 01:16:18.520 Can I ask you a question? 1537 01:16:19.119 --> 01:16:22.800 Yeah, you just said a minute ago something about like 1538 01:16:23.199 --> 01:16:26.960 correcting problems from the first movie or improving Maybe maybe 1539 01:16:27.000 --> 01:16:29.239 I didn't understand you, But what do you feel like 1540 01:16:29.359 --> 01:16:30.680 this movie improved on from the. 1541 01:16:30.960 --> 01:16:33.560 Thought some of the well I thought specifically with like 1542 01:16:33.680 --> 01:16:36.520 the zombies or like in the in the last film, 1543 01:16:36.560 --> 01:16:40.000 I wasn't exactly into like all the new types of 1544

01:16:40.399 --> 01:16:42.800 like archetypes of zombies they were giving us, Like I 1545 01:16:42.840 --> 01:16:45.359 didn't like doctor buzzcoll I didn't understand really, like, well, 1546 01:16:45.359 --> 01:16:47.119 how do we get these fact ones that are slow? 1547 01:16:47.199 --> 01:16:49.119 And then then the alpha is like where they come from? 1548 01:16:49.159 --> 01:16:51.000 Because they were I don't remember them in any other film. 1549 01:16:51.119 --> 01:16:53.399 So, so how do you feel like this film resolved 1550 01:16:53.439 --> 01:16:54.119 that I. 1551 01:16:54.119 --> 01:16:56.680 Don't because I've just come to like like because Samson 1552 01:16:56.760 --> 01:16:59.840 comes back they play on the same character, like because 1553 01:17:00.119 --> 01:17:01.840 from the last one he's not just a gimmick. He's 1554 01:17:01.840 --> 01:17:04.960 sort of big dog like zombie, like there's something here. 1555 01:17:05.039 --> 01:17:07.680 They play on his humanity and so yeah, he's like 1556 01:17:07.800 --> 01:17:10.399 the scary he's like Franken, He's like the Frankens Simons. 1557 01:17:10.520 --> 01:17:12.880 You know, he's like big and scary, but also there's 1558 01:17:12.880 --> 01:17:16.600 a man inside there, you know, and we find out 1559 01:17:16.640 --> 01:17:18.119 that he's trapped and he's just scared. 1560 01:17:18.199 --> 01:17:20.600 Really all right, thanks for clarifying, because I wasn't sure 1561 01:17:20.600 --> 01:17:21.840 where you're going with that, but I get it. 1562 01:17:22.439 --> 01:17:24.319 I think it improves on some other things from the 1563 01:17:24.359 --> 01:17:27.239 first one as well, maybe not Spike stuff, but I 1564 01:17:27.319 --> 01:17:30.560 thought also just getting another dose of Kelson improves his 1565 01:17:30.720 --> 01:17:33.680 character overall. For me, I did like him in the 1566 01:17:33.720 --> 01:17:35.880 first one, but we don't get like I like now. 1567 01:17:35.920 --> 01:17:38.039 I like them both as a companion, Like I like 1568 01:17:38.119 --> 01:17:40.640 the outrageousness of the first one, sort of being like, uh, 1569 01:17:40.920 --> 01:17:42.960 he's like scary dude at first, and you find out 1570 01:17:43.039 --> 01:17:45.800 like there's something to him and his you know, the 1571 01:17:45.840 --> 01:17:48.880 Bonnyard is not exactly just a scary place that it's 1572 01:17:48.960 --> 01:17:54.239 you know, uh, you know, a memoir to humanity and death, 1573 01:17:54.359 --> 01:17:57.079 you know, by using death. So I think that's touching, 1574 01:17:58.039 --> 01:18:00.119 you know, and it makes me think deeply deeper. I 1575 01:18:00.159 --> 01:18:02.199 think on the last one like a little bit more too, 1576 01:18:02.439 --> 01:18:04.680 I think a little bit so I could even change 1577 01:18:04.720 --> 01:18:08.119 my score probably on the other one maybe, but I'll 1578 01:18:08.479 --> 01:18:10.359 keep it to this one for right now. I think 1579 01:18:10.479 --> 01:18:12.439 visually it's a splendid to look at, though, I think 1580 01:18:12.479 --> 01:18:15.560 it just looks good. It's got good color grading. I 1581 01:18:15.720 --> 01:18:18.439 like the dark nature when the fire rages, that's those 1582 01:18:18.439 --> 01:18:21.039 seems like fucking awesome. In the bar and shit and 1583 01:18:21.600 --> 01:18:24.640 the folly work and stuff's really good. I thought the 1584 01:18:24.760 --> 01:18:26.840 story in this one, I don't know, I thought to me, 1585 01:18:26.960 --> 01:18:29.239 I thought it was kind of elegantly done. I can 1586 01:18:29.359 --> 01:18:31.159 see the complaint though with and it is one of 1587 01:18:31.199 --> 01:18:33.479 my complaints about Spike. I just I guess I'm not 1588 01:18:33.560 --> 01:18:35.880 as tied into, though I was still entertained by all 1589 01:18:35.920 --> 01:18:37.600 the rest of the stuff, and I still felt like 1590 01:18:37.720 --> 01:18:40.319 tied in. I thought the first one had elements of 1591 01:18:40.359 --> 01:18:43.239 this also, but for some reason I thought this one 1592 01:18:43.319 --> 01:18:45.039 enhanced some of the things that I wanted more of. 1593 01:18:45.199 --> 01:18:50.199 Maybe so a couple different storylines converge here. And I 1594 01:18:50.279 --> 01:18:52.920 did like the way it was tied together, except you know, 1595 01:18:53.399 --> 01:18:57.640 Spike's storyline isn't as you know, developed, It might be 1596 01:18:57.720 --> 01:19:00.239 tied in still, and I'm curious to see what he 1597 01:19:00.319 --> 01:19:03.520 goes for sure, Like I'm very tied into his character 1598 01:19:04.000 --> 01:19:07.079 for the next one, so they didn't lose me entirely 1599 01:19:07.159 --> 01:19:10.239 with that. The film has actually increased my joy, like 1600 01:19:10.319 --> 01:19:12.640 I said, the last one and connected me the world 1601 01:19:12.680 --> 01:19:14.159 a little bit better, I think because the last one 1602 01:19:14.199 --> 01:19:17.920 had this jarring ending that just I didn't understand. But 1603 01:19:18.079 --> 01:19:21.119 now the vision of it all, like it's the abruptness 1604 01:19:21.199 --> 01:19:23.359 of it makes sense a little bit more, like, especially 1605 01:19:23.359 --> 01:19:26.760 if you watch this shortly after, I think it helps. 1606 01:19:27.159 --> 01:19:29.239 The acting in this one, too, is spectacular. I thought 1607 01:19:29.279 --> 01:19:31.800 I thought Spike was good, you know, in the scenes 1608 01:19:31.840 --> 01:19:36.920 he's in, but they're mostly just scared scenes. Jimmy. Jimmy's 1609 01:19:37.000 --> 01:19:40.079 also like the Jimmies themselves. His fingers I thought were cool. 1610 01:19:41.000 --> 01:19:43.039 You know, some of them are just throwaways. I get it, 1611 01:19:43.159 --> 01:19:44.920 but I didn't expect much from them. But I did 1612 01:19:44.960 --> 01:19:47.079 think they were kind of cool. And it makes me 1613 01:19:47.159 --> 01:19:49.399

curious of like where they came from a little bit. 1614 01:19:49.600 --> 01:19:51.079 You know, I don't need to know all that, but 1615 01:19:51.600 --> 01:19:53.720 I like that there's girls involved too, Like it's not 1616 01:19:53.840 --> 01:19:56.279 just dudes, and I don't know. Some of them are dumb, 1617 01:19:56.399 --> 01:19:58.920 some of them are just some of them are maybe leaders, 1618 01:19:58.960 --> 01:20:01.760 but Jimmy keeps an eye on so I don't know 1619 01:20:01.960 --> 01:20:06.199 that development. It was kind of cool. The group definitely 1620 01:20:06.199 --> 01:20:07.960 grew on me compared to what I thought of him 1621 01:20:08.199 --> 01:20:11.239 in the last film. And doctor Kelson shines for sure, 1622 01:20:11.640 --> 01:20:13.880 and Samson, they were great. Their characters together were a 1623 01:20:13.960 --> 01:20:17.920 joy to watch. The entire film, so fantastic. The characters 1624 01:20:17.960 --> 01:20:19.960 there and the characters in this film I just thought 1625 01:20:19.960 --> 01:20:22.720 were pretty good. Like I really liked Jimmy a lot. 1626 01:20:23.920 --> 01:20:28.119 Ralphie Finesse is amazing as Ian. He's truly a joy, 1627 01:20:29.720 --> 01:20:32.279 you know. He put in the work and his performance here. 1628 01:20:32.359 --> 01:20:34.479 I think he does a lot of emotional stuff and 1629 01:20:34.600 --> 01:20:37.640 some silly stuff and his dancing and his flexing with 1630 01:20:37.720 --> 01:20:41.199 his shirt off. And there's some humanity with his character too, 1631 01:20:41.239 --> 01:20:45.880 this unspoken like kindness to him that sometimes or just 1632 01:20:46.000 --> 01:20:48.039 like longing for the old world a little bit or 1633 01:20:48.399 --> 01:20:50.479 maybe a love lost. I don't know in him. 1634 01:20:51.079 --> 01:20:52.479 Jacked in this movie, by the way. 1635 01:20:52.560 --> 01:20:55.199 Yeah, he's in great shape and he's doing physical shit. 1636 01:20:55.560 --> 01:20:57.560 You know, he's moving around, and I just like the 1637 01:20:57.600 --> 01:21:00.239 stuff his character does and that performance he does. It's 1638 01:21:00.279 --> 01:21:03.279 pretty bad ass. It's it's it's metal. It's metal as fuck. 1639 01:21:03.680 --> 01:21:06.000 You know, that's the coolest metal concert you can see 1640 01:21:06.039 --> 01:21:11.479 at the Apocalypse, I think. Yeah, for sure, it was 1641 01:21:11.560 --> 01:21:16.479 like a rob Zombie concert. Devil they suld had. 1642 01:21:16.399 --> 01:21:20.560 That, man, Yeah, Rob Zombians, Iron Maiden. 1643 01:21:21.079 --> 01:21:24.600 Yeah, no, I disagree your mouth. 1644 01:21:24.960 --> 01:21:27.720 I'm trying to provoke you, John. Yeah, you like Rob 1645 01:21:27.800 --> 01:21:28.479 Zombies music. 1646 01:21:28.960 --> 01:21:34.159 I love Rob Zombies music, but do not replace Iron Maiden. Okay, anyway, 1647 01:21:34.920 --> 01:21:35.319 shut up. 1648 01:21:35.560 --> 01:21:38.439 But the work was put in here. Jimmy's

character put 1649 01:21:38.479 --> 01:21:40.880 in the work to that actor is really good. 1650 01:21:41.000 --> 01:21:41.119 Man. 1651 01:21:41.680 --> 01:21:44.319 Uh, Jimmy is a detestable character, but charming in the 1652 01:21:44.399 --> 01:21:47.199 same way that he's what you want in a villain. Yeah, 1653 01:21:47.479 --> 01:21:51.000 to be honest, I can't. I'm excited to see where 1654 01:21:51.039 --> 01:21:53.359 the next way the story does go in the next one, 1655 01:21:53.520 --> 01:21:56.720 like they've definitely they definitely bought my ticket. I'm gonna 1656 01:21:56.720 --> 01:21:58.880 buy it, you know, And and I'll go and check 1657 01:21:58.960 --> 01:22:01.159 out my ticket. I'll go and check it out. I'm 1658 01:22:01.520 --> 01:22:03.680 very curious if it's like Samson shows up again, and 1659 01:22:03.760 --> 01:22:05.760 I hope they don't like, I hope they keep something 1660 01:22:06.079 --> 01:22:08.720 going here and don't like just pivot in a weird 1661 01:22:08.800 --> 01:22:11.880 way and don't connect the first two movies to the 1662 01:22:11.960 --> 01:22:14.119 third one, which would be dumb. But you know, sometimes 1663 01:22:14.159 --> 01:22:14.840 they do shit like that. 1664 01:22:14.960 --> 01:22:17.960 We've seen it before you Star Wars. 1665 01:22:18.399 --> 01:22:23.760 Uh. But yeah, but you know some cons We don't 1666 01:22:23.880 --> 01:22:28.239 learn any more about Jimmy really, uh, not much more 1667 01:22:28.439 --> 01:22:30.880 than we've seen, you know, you know now that he's 1668 01:22:30.920 --> 01:22:34.279 snapped sort of like I'm curious, but there was no progression. 1669 01:22:34.560 --> 01:22:36.239 You know, we saw what happened to him as a kid, 1670 01:22:36.319 --> 01:22:38.119 and we see him as an adult and then that's it, 1671 01:22:38.279 --> 01:22:40.159 you know, and we just assume, like he's just killing people. 1672 01:22:40.359 --> 01:22:43.239 Why why why are you saying this? Why why any 1673 01:22:43.319 --> 01:22:45.640 of this? Like, I get it, you're not that most 1674 01:22:45.760 --> 01:22:47.479 much of a personal guy. And there is that moment 1675 01:22:47.520 --> 01:22:50.079 where he gets personal with Ian, which perfectly works for me. 1676 01:22:51.000 --> 01:22:54.159 I get that, uh, that moment of vulnerability, Like but 1677 01:22:54.279 --> 01:22:56.800 now you've seen it's I gotta kill you. Uh. You know, 1678 01:22:56.920 --> 01:22:59.239 my followers can't know about that. That kind of shit. 1679 01:22:59.560 --> 01:23:02.159 But like we don't see anything. We don't see the 1680 01:23:02.159 --> 01:23:04.439 boy to man, the struggle. We don't see a flashback 1681 01:23:04.520 --> 01:23:07.600 of him surviving or what he did as a young 1682 01:23:07.720 --> 01:23:12.319 Jimmy to become I don't know this cult leader. I 1683 01:23:12.439 --> 01:23:15.880 think he's an interesting character and he's portrayed very well, 1684 01:23:15.960 --> 01:23:17.039 so I

forgive a lot of that. 1685 01:23:17.279 --> 01:23:20.840 But but hydroburg can I I'm sorry I got you off. 1686 01:23:20.920 --> 01:23:25.880 But they showed more with Samson than they did with Jimmy, 1687 01:23:26.239 --> 01:23:28.079 and that would have been I agree with you. I 1688 01:23:28.159 --> 01:23:30.640 think that would have been really cool to see. 1689 01:23:32.920 --> 01:23:35.439 Something. It showed me the line that he crossed, you know, 1690 01:23:35.520 --> 01:23:39.319 that maybe the moment to become like this character or something. 1691 01:23:39.800 --> 01:23:41.680 And then he was just never you know, he just 1692 01:23:41.800 --> 01:23:44.720 because he wasn't being nurtured by anybody. You know, he 1693 01:23:44.880 --> 01:23:46.840 just took to nature and he just became a killer. 1694 01:23:47.359 --> 01:23:49.840 Why he dressed this way or whatever. Where he found 1695 01:23:49.840 --> 01:23:52.439 all these tracks suits, who knows, But you know that's 1696 01:23:52.479 --> 01:23:54.000 for another story. 1697 01:23:54.479 --> 01:23:54.600 Uh. 1698 01:23:54.680 --> 01:23:57.239 But yeah, so we don't learn that much about Jimmy. Also, 1699 01:23:57.439 --> 01:24:00.840 I think I like Spike's roll. I think like I 1700 01:24:00.920 --> 01:24:03.279 think his sproll could have been used a little bit more. 1701 01:24:03.920 --> 01:24:06.319 He's built up a little at the by the end 1702 01:24:06.359 --> 01:24:08.399 of the last film. I think he makes a decision 1703 01:24:08.479 --> 01:24:11.399 in the end after his mother dies, you know, he 1704 01:24:11.520 --> 01:24:15.279 accepts it. He mans up. He takes the baby back 1705 01:24:15.319 --> 01:24:18.119 to where he knows it'll be safe, but decides not 1706 01:24:18.279 --> 01:24:20.439 to stay there himself. He realizes, like, I need to 1707 01:24:20.479 --> 01:24:22.800 go on my journey, my nature walk, my spirit walk 1708 01:24:22.880 --> 01:24:24.079 or something like this, you know what I mean, Like 1709 01:24:24.119 --> 01:24:26.199 I need to come and find out who I am. 1710 01:24:26.319 --> 01:24:29.159 I need to go out there and challenge myself. And 1711 01:24:29.279 --> 01:24:31.159 so like I felt like, oh cool, And then he 1712 01:24:31.239 --> 01:24:33.560 meets this gang who I get you're sort of like 1713 01:24:33.680 --> 01:24:37.399 off kilter around and maybe you're not the alpha there 1714 01:24:37.560 --> 01:24:40.159 ha ha. But they don't really play on much there. 1715 01:24:40.199 --> 01:24:41.760 It's just like he takes like a role and then 1716 01:24:41.800 --> 01:24:44.039 that's it, like you know, and he's just like, oh 1717 01:24:44.159 --> 01:24:46.279 now now we got Spike, Jimmy Spike. And he's just 1718 01:24:46.359 --> 01:24:48.399 at the table with them. Yeah, so there's nothing really 1719 01:24:48.479 --> 01:24:52.920 going on there. He finds another who might also have 1720 01:24:53.079 --> 01:24:56.600 some humanity in his compatriot what's

the name inc. But 1721 01:24:57.560 --> 01:24:59.199 you know, she's off doing her thing and she's got 1722 01:24:59.199 --> 01:25:02.520 her own struggles. So like it's not enough. So yeah, 1723 01:25:02.880 --> 01:25:04.640 I think Spike could have been developed a little I 1724 01:25:04.720 --> 01:25:05.720 was expecting a little bit. 1725 01:25:05.720 --> 01:25:06.079 More of that. 1726 01:25:06.399 --> 01:25:08.680 Uh, that Gusto, that he had from the last film, 1727 01:25:08.720 --> 01:25:11.119 and we don't see that as much. He spends a 1728 01:25:11.159 --> 01:25:14.239 lot of the film like on his back, honestly, you know. 1729 01:25:15.680 --> 01:25:18.000 And so I thought, like, be that man, that kid 1730 01:25:18.119 --> 01:25:20.000 that was turning into the young man that your father 1731 01:25:20.159 --> 01:25:22.119 raised that we saw in the first film. He saw this. 1732 01:25:22.279 --> 01:25:23.840 You know what to do, man, you do know what 1733 01:25:23.960 --> 01:25:25.880 to do. And so maybe we'll see more of that 1734 01:25:26.039 --> 01:25:28.119 come to light in the next film. And this was 1735 01:25:28.199 --> 01:25:30.399 like he was just around a presence, like Jimmy, that's 1736 01:25:30.439 --> 01:25:33.079 fucking you know, we get it, like he's he was 1737 01:25:33.159 --> 01:25:35.880 being sucked in by a cult. So at some point, 1738 01:25:36.079 --> 01:25:38.479 you know, he might have scumba actually, so who knows. 1739 01:25:39.640 --> 01:25:39.800 You know. 1740 01:25:39.920 --> 01:25:40.880 So I see the critiques. 1741 01:25:40.920 --> 01:25:41.359 I just don't. 1742 01:25:41.359 --> 01:25:43.239 I don't know, man, I was coming to kind of 1743 01:25:43.319 --> 01:25:45.960 high with this, but I do see the critiques. Yeah, 1744 01:25:46.039 --> 01:25:48.039 I guess with all that said, I think I'm given 1745 01:25:48.159 --> 01:25:50.920 a twenty years later, I think I can give it 1746 01:25:51.720 --> 01:25:54.199 the Bone Temple eight point five out of ten. 1747 01:25:54.720 --> 01:25:55.119 What was it? 1748 01:25:55.840 --> 01:25:58.399 Dong swinging too, Dong. 1749 01:25:58.319 --> 01:26:08.159 Swinging to alexri Google Boner Alert, I was sitting at 1750 01:26:08.199 --> 01:26:10.399 a nine. But that does feel a little high maybe, 1751 01:26:10.720 --> 01:26:12.359 And this is my first, like second, this is my 1752 01:26:12.439 --> 01:26:16.640 second watch overall. That's still it's a good high recommend 1753 01:26:16.800 --> 01:26:18.279 I think, in my opinion. 1754 01:26:18.319 --> 01:26:21.640 Jacqueline, would you think of Bone or Alert, I mean 1755 01:26:22.119 --> 01:26:27.800 the Bone or Alert twenty eight years later the Bone Temple. 1756 01:26:28.960 --> 01:26:32.520 Well, I actually want to echo some of what Hydroberg said. 1757 01:26:33.399 --> 01:26:35.439 You said it was gorgeous to look at and had 1758 01:26:35.520 --> 01:26:38.640 great settings. Totally agree. I think the Bone Temple itself 1759 01:26:38.960 --> 01:26:41.199 is a wonder to look at. 1760 01:26:41.760 --> 01:26:45.399 Fucking rad And a word about the. 1761 01:26:45.439 --> 01:26:48.319 Bone Temple, which you kind of touched on this to Hydroberg, 1762 01:26:48.439 --> 01:26:50.319 but I wanted to emphasize it a little bit more, 1763 01:26:50.760 --> 01:26:53.920 which is that, like the symbolism of the Bone Temple 1764 01:26:54.319 --> 01:26:57.319 is it seems like a morbid thing, but really it's 1765 01:26:57.479 --> 01:27:01.840 absolutely the most human possible thing that doctor Kelson can do, 1766 01:27:02.600 --> 01:27:07.000 because I don't think any other species honors it's dead 1767 01:27:07.119 --> 01:27:10.640 after death, Like humans have a tendency towards ritual and 1768 01:27:10.840 --> 01:27:16.920 like traditions and like celebrations of things and marking time, 1769 01:27:17.720 --> 01:27:23.319 marking major life passages like birth, marriage, death, things like that. 1770 01:27:23.520 --> 01:27:26.239 That's like an extremely human thing that we do. And 1771 01:27:26.359 --> 01:27:29.159 so for him to build this bone Temple to honor 1772 01:27:29.800 --> 01:27:32.520 the dead of this terrible virus. 1773 01:27:32.359 --> 01:27:33.760 That's played the world. 1774 01:27:34.359 --> 01:27:37.680 Yeah, and so it's like it's it's honoring them, it's 1775 01:27:37.800 --> 01:27:40.079 it's making sure we don't forget them. And to me, 1776 01:27:40.239 --> 01:27:44.199 that is a symbol of his deep, deep humanity. And 1777 01:27:44.319 --> 01:27:47.640 so I it's, yes, it's beautiful and it's visually impressive, 1778 01:27:47.760 --> 01:27:49.760 but I also like that it is the symbol of 1779 01:27:49.840 --> 01:27:54.720 his humanity. And it plays like a ya, and it's 1780 01:27:54.760 --> 01:27:56.720 like we're supposed to pay attention to that. It's called 1781 01:27:56.720 --> 01:27:58.399 the Bone Temple, you know. The movie is called The 1782 01:27:58.439 --> 01:28:00.640 Bone Temple, and so it's like we're really supposed to 1783 01:28:00.720 --> 01:28:05.560 see the significance of that. So I appreciate that very much. 1784 01:28:06.359 --> 01:28:10.159 I agree with you that the acting performances are absolutely stellar. 1785 01:28:10.720 --> 01:28:16.880 I love Ray Fines, I love Jack O'Connell. Now I 1786 01:28:16.960 --> 01:28:19.119 don't know if it was O'Connell or O'Connor, but you 1787 01:28:19.199 --> 01:28:21.439 know how I mean the actor playing Sear Jimmy. I 1788 01:28:21.520 --> 01:28:24.560 think those were two outstanding acting performances and kind of, 1789 01:28:24.680 --> 01:28:27.960 you know, flip sides of the same coin. You said 1790 01:28:28.119 --> 01:28:30.600 something interesting in your review, Hydroberg. 1791 01:28:30.800 --> 01:28:32.520 You said this movie plays. 1792 01:28:32.199 --> 01:28:35.000 In the same world as the previous film. I thought 1793 01:28:35.039 --> 01:28:38.720 that was interesting wording because I

think that's really accurate. 1794 01:28:39.279 --> 01:28:42.920 This doesn't feel like a continuation of the previous previous movie. 1795 01:28:43.439 --> 01:28:45.880 It feels like a movie that's playing in the same world. 1796 01:28:46.439 --> 01:28:50.119 It feels tangential to me, and that is part of 1797 01:28:50.199 --> 01:28:55.079 my problem. So so I just thought that wording was 1798 01:28:55.159 --> 01:28:59.600 interesting and also revealing. I agree that this movie gives 1799 01:28:59.600 --> 01:29:02.479 you much deeper understanding of doctor Kelson, who I think 1800 01:29:02.600 --> 01:29:06.640 is maybe one of my favorite movie characters in recent memory. 1801 01:29:08.000 --> 01:29:12.039 I think it's a very compelling, relatable character that. 1802 01:29:13.760 --> 01:29:14.920 Endears him to you. 1803 01:29:15.079 --> 01:29:18.880 And like like I said earlier, this character makes me 1804 01:29:18.960 --> 01:29:23.399 want to aspire to be more like him. And if 1805 01:29:23.439 --> 01:29:26.800 there were a zombie apocalypse tomorrow or rage virus, I 1806 01:29:27.439 --> 01:29:29.359 don't know if I can necessarily say I would be 1807 01:29:29.479 --> 01:29:31.680 that character, but that's the character i'd want to be, 1808 01:29:32.199 --> 01:29:34.560 you know. That's that's how I would want to respond 1809 01:29:35.119 --> 01:29:37.720 in a world I guess shot to hell. 1810 01:29:39.920 --> 01:29:40.319 Medicine. 1811 01:29:41.960 --> 01:29:44.199 I'm a doctor, not a pool Man. 1812 01:29:45.720 --> 01:29:49.640 You said that Sir Jimmy is a great villain. I 1813 01:29:49.760 --> 01:29:53.399 agree with that, but you also criticize the fact that 1814 01:29:53.479 --> 01:29:56.159 we don't really see how he became what he is. 1815 01:29:57.039 --> 01:29:59.159 So here's the thing I've already I feel like I've 1816 01:29:59.159 --> 01:30:01.039 already kind of beat this point to death. 1817 01:30:01.119 --> 01:30:04.520 But I think you're totally right, and it reveals. 1818 01:30:04.199 --> 01:30:08.439 Again the problem He's Sir, Jimmy should be an antagonist 1819 01:30:08.600 --> 01:30:10.880 in this movie, and I feel like he's almost elevated 1820 01:30:10.920 --> 01:30:13.199 to the role of a protagonist. Like I said, I 1821 01:30:13.239 --> 01:30:15.079 feel like this film is kind of split, and I 1822 01:30:15.159 --> 01:30:18.079 feel like he's almost the protagonist of this thing. 1823 01:30:18.359 --> 01:30:18.520 Now. 1824 01:30:19.039 --> 01:30:21.640 By protagonist, I don't mean good guy. I just mean 1825 01:30:21.840 --> 01:30:26.079 the person whose perspective you're seeing the story through. And 1826 01:30:26.199 --> 01:30:31.079 the thing is, if he were a true antagonist, you know, 1827 01:30:31.239 --> 01:30:34.399 to Spike's character, I don't think we would need to 1828 01:30:34.520 --> 01:30:37.800 necessarily see that character evolution, like how did he get 1829 01:30:37.840 --> 01:30:40.319 to this point? You know, we had some reference to 1830 01:30:40.399 --> 01:30:43.039 his childhood and now he is what he is. If 1831 01:30:43.079 --> 01:30:46.279 he were a true antagonist, we wouldn't necessarily need that, 1832 01:30:46.359 --> 01:30:48.720 Like the movie could get away with not providing that. 1833 01:30:49.279 --> 01:30:51.720 But when you elevate him to the role of a protagonist, 1834 01:30:51.760 --> 01:30:53.800 and this is the perspective we're supposed to follow through 1835 01:30:53.880 --> 01:30:56.119 this portion in the movie, I do think it's a 1836 01:30:56.199 --> 01:31:02.199 failing not to show us that, not to hint at 1837 01:31:02.319 --> 01:31:04.680 how he evolved to be this character. 1838 01:31:05.119 --> 01:31:06.640 And I would say, well, movie in the third move, 1839 01:31:06.680 --> 01:31:09.079 but he dies here, so like his story is kind 1840 01:31:09.079 --> 01:31:11.159 of are I guess. 1841 01:31:11.039 --> 01:31:11.560 Not, but. 1842 01:31:13.479 --> 01:31:17.199 Jacqueline, I still agree with you. But I mean, the 1843 01:31:17.279 --> 01:31:21.399 thing is is that if he would have punished Spike, 1844 01:31:22.199 --> 01:31:24.680 that would have made him an attack show us, not 1845 01:31:24.880 --> 01:31:29.319 tell us. Yeah, like like take a cat of nine 1846 01:31:29.359 --> 01:31:30.800 tails or something like that. 1847 01:31:31.359 --> 01:31:36.000 Right, Yeah, you know what I realized we just assume 1848 01:31:36.079 --> 01:31:37.520 it was a zombie. What if it was one of 1849 01:31:37.560 --> 01:31:40.079 the other fingers that was still alive, just covered in 1850 01:31:40.159 --> 01:31:41.800 blood that they thought it. 1851 01:31:41.840 --> 01:31:44.359 Definitely looked like a reader. It definitely looked like it, 1852 01:31:44.520 --> 01:31:44.880 but it was. 1853 01:31:45.239 --> 01:31:48.640 So red though, too so kind of like he was 1854 01:31:48.720 --> 01:31:50.880 seeing a little bit of red still from the vision, 1855 01:31:51.079 --> 01:31:53.359 so I couldn't tell. But now it just dawned on me, like, well, 1856 01:31:54.000 --> 01:31:56.359 if you're gonna make him survive for the next one, 1857 01:31:56.439 --> 01:31:57.399 that's how you would tie it in. 1858 01:31:58.119 --> 01:32:00.600 Yeah, I guess it was actually just I I hope 1859 01:32:00.640 --> 01:32:02.319 he doesn't. I feel like that would. 1860 01:32:03.800 --> 01:32:05.800 And now he's still after them. 1861 01:32:06.079 --> 01:32:09.800 That would just make a battle between Samson and fucking I. 1862 01:32:12.680 --> 01:32:14.319 Hope I don't do that. I feel like that would 1863 01:32:14.359 --> 01:32:15.720 be tricking us, like deliberately. 1864 01:32:15.720 --> 01:32:18.199 I really think Samson was going to show up and 1865 01:32:18.359 --> 01:32:21.479 sort of like save the doctor in a moment when 1866 01:32:21.640 --> 01:32:24.000 he was like about to be killed or something, and 1867 01:32:24.119 --> 01:32:26.239 you

kill most of the fingers or something. I don't know, 1868 01:32:27.279 --> 01:32:30.279 but that didn't happen. It's interesting. I do want to say, though, 1869 01:32:30.319 --> 01:32:32.800 I do think that this is one of this is 1870 01:32:33.000 --> 01:32:35.159 like I think one of the I don't know. I 1871 01:32:35.199 --> 01:32:37.239 think it's one of Ray Fines is probably most slept 1872 01:32:37.319 --> 01:32:39.960 on like performances, Like people should check it out for sure. 1873 01:32:40.000 --> 01:32:42.479 I think it's I would agree with that. 1874 01:32:42.800 --> 01:32:44.840 I would agree with that. I think it's a great character. 1875 01:32:45.520 --> 01:32:47.600 So I mean, and you know, I think I think 1876 01:32:47.640 --> 01:32:50.720 I made myself clear about my problems with the focus. 1877 01:32:50.479 --> 01:32:51.119 Of this movie. 1878 01:32:51.239 --> 01:32:53.079 And the thing about it is is I don't think 1879 01:32:53.119 --> 01:32:55.119 it would have been like a difficult thing to fix, 1880 01:32:55.279 --> 01:32:57.479 Like I think it would have been just like subtle 1881 01:32:57.520 --> 01:32:59.560 shifts and how the story is told, and I just 1882 01:33:00.159 --> 01:33:04.279 I don't know. It disappoints me, honestly because the way 1883 01:33:04.319 --> 01:33:07.680 it is now, it feels very random. It feels like unexpected, 1884 01:33:07.760 --> 01:33:10.239 like why is this the focus of our movie? 1885 01:33:10.319 --> 01:33:11.920 Like it felt very scattered. 1886 01:33:12.000 --> 01:33:14.279 It felt like, oh, I don't know, like what this 1887 01:33:14.439 --> 01:33:17.239 movie's about now, Like it just seems really. 1888 01:33:19.159 --> 01:33:22.520 Not random. So I don't know, I didn't love this. 1889 01:33:23.359 --> 01:33:25.640 You know, maybe I'll watch it one more time right 1890 01:33:25.680 --> 01:33:28.079 before the third one comes out, to kind of refresh, 1891 01:33:28.119 --> 01:33:31.359 and maybe I'll feel differently then. But upon my first watch, 1892 01:33:31.439 --> 01:33:37.479 I was mostly just confused and bored by the Jimmy stuff. 1893 01:33:38.439 --> 01:33:41.680 Not that Jimmy's boring, but just as that part of 1894 01:33:41.720 --> 01:33:44.600 the story went on and on and the different Jimmy's 1895 01:33:44.640 --> 01:33:46.359 doing this and that, it just, I don't know, it 1896 01:33:46.439 --> 01:33:46.920 got boring. 1897 01:33:47.039 --> 01:33:48.159 I was like, get on with it. 1898 01:33:49.199 --> 01:33:52.920 So I'm sorry. I'm gonna end this with a score 1899 01:33:53.039 --> 01:33:56.880 of four out of ten. Dong swinging two electric boogloo. 1900 01:33:59.520 --> 01:34:00.680 That's that's how I feel. 1901 01:34:01.000 --> 01:34:02.520 Wow four four. 1902 01:34:03.640 --> 01:34:05.800 Lisa gave the exact same score you did. 1903 01:34:06.079 --> 01:34:09.880 Really yeah, yeah, crazy, I feel some solidarity. It's not crazy. 1904 01:34:10.239 --> 01:34:13.840 I feel, listen, lazy that you guys thought the same thing. 1905 01:34:13.920 --> 01:34:16.600 I'm sure. Oh okay, I'm sorry. I'm not to saying 1906 01:34:16.600 --> 01:34:21.159 I'm not going to crazy. That's crazy that your thing. 1907 01:34:22.359 --> 01:34:22.600 Listen. 1908 01:34:22.680 --> 01:34:24.680 I didn't just come out and say, like this movie sucks, 1909 01:34:24.680 --> 01:34:27.079 I hate it, like I had a well reasoned, you know, opinion. 1910 01:34:28.399 --> 01:34:31.039 It was crazy. I didn't know that that is that is. Yeh, 1911 01:34:31.560 --> 01:34:33.560 Lisa does a numbered rating like each week. 1912 01:34:33.960 --> 01:34:34.760 Yeah, I asked her. 1913 01:34:35.000 --> 01:34:37.359 I'm like, oh, well, you're gonna start sharing it. I'm 1914 01:34:37.520 --> 01:34:39.119 gonna start sharing that, all right. 1915 01:34:39.239 --> 01:34:41.720 Lisa gave this a four, just like Jacqueline. 1916 01:34:42.279 --> 01:34:44.600 Okay, right, cool, y'all want some trivia? 1917 01:34:45.079 --> 01:34:46.279 Yes, all right. 1918 01:34:46.800 --> 01:34:48.920 So interestingly, the budget for. 1919 01:34:48.960 --> 01:34:57.000 This movie was sixty three million dollars Jesus fuck, and 1920 01:34:57.640 --> 01:35:00.920 so far it has raked in only fifty eight. 1921 01:35:00.920 --> 01:35:02.000 Point five. 1922 01:35:03.640 --> 01:35:04.359 Box office. 1923 01:35:05.319 --> 01:35:06.920 So I don't understand this. 1924 01:35:07.000 --> 01:35:09.239 I don't know what happened there, because generally this is 1925 01:35:09.359 --> 01:35:14.520 rated pretty highly by critics and audiences, and so I'm like, 1926 01:35:14.680 --> 01:35:17.439 how it was the budget just too high? How is 1927 01:35:17.479 --> 01:35:19.399 it not making it back? If it's as popular as 1928 01:35:19.439 --> 01:35:21.159 everybody says it is, you tell me. 1929 01:35:21.720 --> 01:35:22.119 I don't know. 1930 01:35:22.439 --> 01:35:27.800 So I don't know consensus better or people enjoyed it, 1931 01:35:28.319 --> 01:35:31.359 but maybe not enough people want to see it maybe. 1932 01:35:31.880 --> 01:35:33.520 So anyway, I just thought that was interesting. 1933 01:35:34.159 --> 01:35:36.239 You got the set already made from the last movie. 1934 01:35:36.319 --> 01:35:39.880 Yeah right, it It's like it should reduce your costs 1935 01:35:39.880 --> 01:35:40.319 a little bit. 1936 01:35:40.399 --> 01:35:41.239 But what do I know? 1937 01:35:42.439 --> 01:35:44.560 All right? I was interested to learn this. 1938 01:35:44.760 --> 01:35:48.319 The construction crew fabricated fifty five hundred skulls and one 1939 01:35:48.439 --> 01:35:53.560 hundred and fifty thousand bones using individual casting individual casting 1940 01:35:53.680 --> 01:35:58.119 methods for the budget level set, and then technical teams 1941 01:35:58.199 --> 01:36:01.840 took those bones that were made and assembled them onto 1942 01:36:02.039 --> 01:36:07.000 a thousand vertical upright, you know,

structures to establish the 1943 01:36:07.680 --> 01:36:10.439 structural integrity of the ossuarys. 1944 01:36:11.800 --> 01:36:13.560 Do you say ossuary? How do you say? 1945 01:36:13.640 --> 01:36:16.199 Yessary? 1946 01:36:16.319 --> 01:36:16.479 Why? 1947 01:36:16.800 --> 01:36:18.840 I've never really said the word before this movie. 1948 01:36:21.319 --> 01:36:24.960 This modular assembly process allowed for a precise placement of 1949 01:36:25.119 --> 01:36:27.600 cast components within the temple architecture. 1950 01:36:27.760 --> 01:36:30.479 So that's pretty cool. It sounds very labor intensive, it 1951 01:36:30.640 --> 01:36:31.279 looks so good. 1952 01:36:31.520 --> 01:36:33.479 It's all practical too, that's crazy. 1953 01:36:35.800 --> 01:36:37.199 Mm hmmm uh. 1954 01:36:37.279 --> 01:36:40.560 The scene where Kelson and Samson dance to Duran Duran 1955 01:36:40.760 --> 01:36:43.760 was improvised, which I love. That was kind of Ray 1956 01:36:43.840 --> 01:36:48.680 Fines just instinct was to like start dancing. Yeah, ummm, 1957 01:36:49.800 --> 01:36:52.000 I thought that's kind of funny. According to Ray Fines, 1958 01:36:52.479 --> 01:36:56.079 while Danny Boyle's direction in the preceding film was instinctive 1959 01:36:56.159 --> 01:36:59.039 and fast paced with a clear vision of desired moments, 1960 01:36:59.439 --> 01:37:03.199 Nia Deca's approach was more deliberate and meticulous. Sounds like 1961 01:37:03.279 --> 01:37:06.439 she slowed things down in the process, particularly in close 1962 01:37:06.520 --> 01:37:10.680 up shots, allowing actors additional time to develop subtle aspects 1963 01:37:10.720 --> 01:37:14.399 of their performances. Boyle half joked that the actors adored 1964 01:37:14.439 --> 01:37:16.600 her to the extent that I was slightly jealous that 1965 01:37:16.680 --> 01:37:18.079 they seem to prefer her to me. 1966 01:37:20.119 --> 01:37:23.840 I love that, okay. 1967 01:37:24.800 --> 01:37:28.000 Nia DaCosta defines the central conceptual pillar of the film 1968 01:37:28.039 --> 01:37:30.560 as the nature of evil, So we can see that like, 1969 01:37:31.039 --> 01:37:33.399 did you artificially become evil through a virus? 1970 01:37:33.520 --> 01:37:36.720 Or are you just evil through trauma? And I don't know, 1971 01:37:36.880 --> 01:37:38.119 sadism Uh. 1972 01:37:38.319 --> 01:37:42.800 The thematic focus follows the family oriented motifs of the 1973 01:37:42.920 --> 01:37:46.600 preceding production. I agree with that, and establishes the foundation 1974 01:37:46.760 --> 01:37:50.920 for a subsequent sequel centered on redemption. The creative team 1975 01:37:51.000 --> 01:37:55.600 maintains this progression to ensure structural continuity across the Plan trilogy. 1976 01:37:55.680 --> 01:37:57.359 So then that makes me wonder, well, what's the focus 1977 01:37:57.439 --> 01:37:59.520 of the third one going to be? Because I get 1978 01:37:59.560 --> 01:38:03.079 the idea redemption in terms of Samson here, but not 1979 01:38:03.520 --> 01:38:07.840 really the Jimmy's, although maybe Kelly maybe Kelly inc Jimmy. 1980 01:38:08.279 --> 01:38:14.560 Oh hey it's me, It's me Jimmy by his brother. Uh. 1981 01:38:14.640 --> 01:38:17.399 The actors who played the Jimmy's mentioned that the removing 1982 01:38:17.479 --> 01:38:21.840 of the shirt. Scene was emotionally disturbing to film due 1983 01:38:21.840 --> 01:38:26.640 to the graphic and realistic gore prosthetics. I could see that. Yeah, 1984 01:38:28.000 --> 01:38:31.840 that's really fucking upsetting. When I found out what that 1985 01:38:32.039 --> 01:38:34.319 really meant, like the removal of the shirt, I was. 1986 01:38:34.319 --> 01:38:37.159 Like, oh, no, no, boy, So that's it. 1987 01:38:37.359 --> 01:38:37.600 That is. 1988 01:38:37.840 --> 01:38:39.399 That is all I've got for trivia, y'all. 1989 01:38:40.359 --> 01:38:42.119 Well done, Jacqueline, thank you. 1990 01:38:42.640 --> 01:38:46.760 Yeah, that one the one guy Tom when Jemima or 1991 01:38:46.760 --> 01:38:48.920 whatever is on top of him, she said, I want 1992 01:38:48.920 --> 01:38:50.880 to take his pants off or something like that. Yeah, 1993 01:38:51.640 --> 01:38:53.560 that means him from the. 1994 01:38:55.079 --> 01:38:59.039 Gosh darn dong swinging skinned skin. 1995 01:39:00.319 --> 01:39:05.199 No, thank you, No, we're doing a fan ros all right. 1996 01:39:05.319 --> 01:39:08.239 So that's it for twenty eight years later the Bone Temple. 1997 01:39:08.800 --> 01:39:14.000 Oh, Jacqueline, you've got next I do. 1998 01:39:14.239 --> 01:39:16.680 It's gonna be drastic change. 1999 01:39:16.399 --> 01:39:18.079 In tone, Jesus Christ. 2000 01:39:18.199 --> 01:39:22.680 Really yeah, a drastic change in town. So next week. 2001 01:39:23.239 --> 01:39:25.600 What I've chosen for us is not actually a film, 2002 01:39:26.279 --> 01:39:30.760 it's a series. So but it all adds up to 2003 01:39:30.880 --> 01:39:33.800 about the amount of time as a film. So we're 2004 01:39:33.840 --> 01:39:37.960 going to be covering over the Garden Wall from twenty fourteen. 2005 01:39:38.159 --> 01:39:41.920 It is I believe ten episodes of about eleven minutes each. 2006 01:39:42.520 --> 01:39:44.960 It's on Hulu, and so when you put it together 2007 01:39:44.960 --> 01:39:45.960 it should be about an hour. 2008 01:39:46.000 --> 01:39:48.239 And I don't know, forty five minutes I. 2009 01:39:48.319 --> 01:39:51.880 Heard this movie is really sad. 2010 01:39:52.560 --> 01:39:55.760 There's no reason to be said. It's very, very fun 2011 01:39:56.199 --> 01:39:57.119 coming of age. 2012 01:39:56.920 --> 01:40:01.680 Film, Jacqueline. But yeah, she sheet sheet close. 2013 01:40:01.880 --> 01:40:03.159 We're going to be covering it next week. 2014 01:40:03.239 --> 01:40:04.840 Yeah, we're going to talk about it next week. 2015 01:40:05.039 --> 01:40:07.159 Okay, all right, I. 2016 01:40:07.199 --> 01:40:08.920 Think I forgets

how the show works. 2017 01:40:09.279 --> 01:40:12.640 If I cry. If I cry, I'm blaming you. 2018 01:40:13.119 --> 01:40:15.760 Okay, that's fair enough. And we will also have a 2019 01:40:15.800 --> 01:40:18.680 special guest joining us next week. Nicole from Light and 2020 01:40:18.720 --> 01:40:20.920 Shadow is going to join us and talk about over the. 2021 01:40:20.960 --> 01:40:24.199 Garden Wall our fourth member, not wrong. 2022 01:40:24.199 --> 01:40:25.600 Our honorary fourth member. 2023 01:40:25.800 --> 01:40:25.960 Yes. 2024 01:40:27.119 --> 01:40:29.319 So in the meantime, if you want to write in 2025 01:40:29.439 --> 01:40:30.840 and come at me and tell me why I'm wrong 2026 01:40:30.840 --> 01:40:33.479 about Bone Temple, that's fine. You can email us at 2027 01:40:33.640 --> 01:40:36.439 a Cut Above Horror review at gmail dot com. You 2028 01:40:36.520 --> 01:40:39.479 can also follow us on x at Cut Above Horror. 2029 01:40:39.920 --> 01:40:42.880 If you wanted to tell me at a different avenue 2030 01:40:42.960 --> 01:40:45.840 why Jacqueline's wrong about the Bone Temple, that's fine. Also, 2031 01:40:45.960 --> 01:40:47.800 you can hit me up on Instagram at a cut 2032 01:40:47.840 --> 01:40:51.479 above dot horror on the score review and Hydroberg. 2033 01:40:51.600 --> 01:40:55.720 You've got another podcast called Cinemigos. Would you guys cover. 2034 01:40:56.359 --> 01:40:59.000 We just covered. We just released part one of a 2035 01:40:59.079 --> 01:41:02.960 two parter on Princess Mononoke from nineteen ninety seven by 2036 01:41:03.119 --> 01:41:05.079 Studio Jible. It's an animated film. 2037 01:41:05.560 --> 01:41:09.520 Dude, listen to that podcast. It's so good. Hey, we're 2038 01:41:09.560 --> 01:41:14.600 looking for those five star ratings on Apple Podcasts and 2039 01:41:14.800 --> 01:41:19.359 on Spotify. You can also follow us on uh Facebook, 2040 01:41:19.520 --> 01:41:20.800 cut above horror reviews. 2041 01:41:21.239 --> 01:41:25.079 Yeah, that's it. Well, fellas, it's been fun. That's you know, 2042 01:41:25.159 --> 01:41:27.399 it's always nice and kind of refreshing when it's just 2043 01:41:27.439 --> 01:41:29.760 the three of us from time to time. I love it, 2044 01:41:30.439 --> 01:41:31.199 just me and my boys. 2045 01:41:31.680 --> 01:41:36.840 Yeah, you and fingers were you You know what she 2046 01:41:36.960 --> 01:41:41.560 does with her fingers right, Yeah, she puts over her 2047 01:41:41.680 --> 01:41:45.279 mouth that she's laughing. Yes, because she's a lady. 2048 01:41:45.720 --> 01:41:48.359 Well you gotta you want to see my gaping maw. 2049 01:41:49.159 --> 01:41:54.439 So anyway, you know, so Jimmy shout out to Jimmy Mo. 2050 01:41:54.640 --> 01:41:56.880 Hey, Jimmy Mo, what's up. Oh we failed to have 2051 01:41:57.000 --> 01:41:58.560 shout him out on the MA episode. 2052 01:41:58.600 --> 01:42:01.199 I think yeah, I think so that would. 2053 01:42:00.920 --> 01:42:04.239 Have been better anyway, well, follow us, I'll see you guys, 2054 01:42:04.479 --> 01:42:07.840 and a call back here next week for over the 2055 01:42:07.960 --> 01:42:08.880 Garden Wall. 2056 01:42:09.359 --> 01:42:10.560 And keep it Jimmy. 2057 01:42:11.960 --> 01:42:14.399 Mm hmmm mmm