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Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL podcast does not advertise on other podcasts. Welcome back to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast, presented by New Era. My name is Dan Hansas. Joined in room filled with heroes, Mark Sessler, Chris Westling, and Greg Rosenthal. What is up, boys? We have some football to talk about this morning. And isn't that exciting? Mr? Sessler? It is west and I were here last night covering these games, and I kind of feel like I missed the vibe of covering six or seven games all at once. It was quite fun. I think um d J. Moore's catch and run where he looked like parts Percy Harvin really put me in the Football movie a year. That's like the flow of the preseason. Like two tweets stand out to me. With the preseason. There's there's like seventeen different days where people are like football is back, like it's there's all these difference like now they're tackling, now they're at O T A. The other last night was one of the nights, and then another one was just kind of like the flow of the preseason. You're always excited for the first week and then by the time you get to the third week, which is actually the one that matters. Then people really aren't paying that close at the very quickly. But it was August was how is how did Mark West? Had Mark handled the newsroom ester? I thought he handled it really well, That's what really was. It was not annoyed, was not on edge. I saw people even come to him and you know how he doesn't like people like wanting to do water cool to talk about the Browns. He handled it well. People stopped by and he wasn't like you didn't see him noticeably on edge or anything. He didn't. He wasn't tense in the shoulders. No. I thought Mark handled it very well. The newsroom in general was well behaved for the most part last night. There were some disruptions this morning that felt like on your radar. There is I will say there are um one or two new found presences in our newsroom that I that are on that are on my radar, just to monitor radar in a big way. And in fact though these these new people and I think, listen, let's keep it real, it's really one person. And I think, without saying who it is, that person better hope this Brown season does not go sideways. There's a lot riding on a lot of things. Uh, to your point, grag and and and to just speaking about the excitement of actual football, even if it doesn't count. This from Lindsay Rhodes, we gotta get back in the studio um of NFL Network. The top seventeen US trends right now are NFL related for preseason games in which almost no starters are still playing. So people like football. Despite some people like to lead you in in a different direction. People don't like football as much anymore. People no longer are into football. They they have changed your viewpoint on football is okay. I did see four or five trends centered around regular season Major league baseball in there too, though, was what after the seventeen No, I'm kidding. I didn't not see anything about baseball. You know it was because it's at the top seventeen. No, I'm saying that I was suggesting that actually five of those you know, some baseball snuck in. No, Baseball stuck in. No, it was noticeable by its absence through four or five hours in the newsroom last night covering all these games. I didn't hear the helmet role once. It was a Hall of Fame thing, and then there wasn't injection, which I think that had happened in the Hall of Fame game, it would have stood out. But you're right, there wasn't for for using Marco Thomas. Marco Thomas and Frank Reich of the quotes said after the game, that was absolutely the right call. We shouldn't have hit like that. We'll have to teach him up because it seemed like a pretty clear call. But it's just something new that someone will get kicked out of the game for a hit. Okay, So we're gonna keep it simplier. There were twelve games played on Thursday night. I ever heard of such a preseason night. My beloved Jets played tonight, and I guess a small and full of other teams well as well, but most teams played on Thursday. So we're just gonna go through each of the games and share, uh, first and foremost, the final score, and just kind of take a look at where the standings are in the preseason. Who's out to a hot start, who maybe is all of a sudden in a sneaky must win place entering week two. So let's just get into it. Let's go through each game and uh, we'll start. Why don't we hit up one of the big rookie hot shots. So let's go to Buffalo, where the Carolina Panthers and Buffalo Bills began their preseasons. And you know what, even before the game, some fireworks. You know, you've got hard knocks and and all that excitement. But how about a little buzz between Cam Newton and Kelvin Benjamin, a reporter happened to be was lucky enough to be on the field right when Cam approached Kelvin Benjamin. Cam had a look of you know, a bit of a look of confrontation and stuck his hand out and Benjamin kind of blew off the handshake. Uh So this of course comes after uh Benjamin had bad mouth Cam and and said he essentially was holding his career back. So fun, little saucy soap opera there to get into this game. I thought Cam handled it well. I liked seeing that. Yeah, and I noticed that he Bejaman did not handle it. No, he didn't. I noticed Cam and just casually dismissed the third player hanging under periphery. It was Thomas Davis. The here he was like, get out of here. Yeah, he's get out of here. You know what, you know, this confrontation is coming, and I thought Cam handled it well. He handled it strongly, and Colvin Benjamin sort of danced around and tried to get away. Well, and it's if you're Benjamin, you started this publicly, speak to the man, and you well, right, and you're the one now holding on to the grudge or whatever's going on here, and so it's a much heavier weight on Calvin Benjamin. I thought Cam Newton did what he could do in that situa. It takes a lot of courage
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and just to be a man to walk up to someone you've said this about me, Let's sort it out face to face, and Benjamin shrugs him off. Please all right, So let's we'll get to the Panthers side of it, but let's start with the Bills and Josh Allen, because Alan uh is a guy that we were told West has all the tools in the world, including an arm that is pretty much unmatched, and we saw that in this game. He wasn't perfect. His stats were very close to being outrageous because he just missed on a couple of deep bombs. But this guy, you can understand why Bills fans have a lot of excitement after one preseason game. I thought he came as advertised. He electrified the crowd. He is an eye catching, arresting talent to watch. And um, I don't know if I've ever seen a player come into the league as a top ten draft pick and already been written off by such a large segment of the football watching public as a bust before he even ever plays a game. I thought he looked very promising. His arm strength is undeniable, he's raw, There's certain things he has to work on, and maybe he won't start in Week one. But if I'm a Bills fan watching this game, I am. I am in trance, bordering on hopeful. Well and it and it translates because the television share in Buffalo, this Buffalo Bills preseason game and its spiked when Josh Allen took the field is the highest rated television show in Western New York all summer. And it speaks to the drought their quarterback wise, the fascination around a guy whose armed talent. You can talk about Jay Cutler, Matthew Stafford. Well, no, but the ball coming out of Josh Allen's hands just looks completely almost like science fiction to me. And by the way, we were this this quarterback room getting ripped on all summer and it's one preseason performance. All three of them performed pretty well. Nathan Peterman nine for nine nineteen yards on a touchdown, A J. Mccaren seven ten for one sixteen So yes, everyone looked pretty good. Calvin Benjamin with a pretty great touchdown celebration jumping into the crowd backwards. I mean, I appreciated that the Josh Allen showed a little bit of everything. Each owed not being totally composed, but he also made great throws. They didn't score their first four or five possessions with him, but it's with third teamers. That's all you're looking for, is what Chris said. I think in a preseason game, because you're not gonna draw these huge conclusions. The fact that he had two or three passes that were beautes and for the most part just handled himself, well, it's like, great that let's move on to the next one. I mean, effortlely, effortlessly throws the ball seventy yards. Well, you have to go go back about fifty years for this comparison. But stylistically, I told you this last night. Mark. He throws the ball and moves like Greg Cook, the Bengals legend who was injured his rookie year after one of the greatest rookie years of all time, and Bill Walsh has said this guy is the greatest talent ever to play the position. He throws the ball and moves like Greg Cook. Um. It's interesting because he hasn't gotten first team reps over the last week, week and a half, so I will be curious to see if that changes, if they give him any better of a chance to actually win this starting job, because right now he's not. He hasn't been playing with the starters. West Cam Newton got a little bit of playing time, finished with a completion percentage right around sixty seven percent. Back in May, you laughed at NORV saying he can get Newton in the high sixties. So perhaps it's time for you to eat a little crow yesterday. Yeah, if we're judging after one preseason game, NORV comes out on the winning end there, Like you're right, Just seeing that one or a couple of those plays from DJ Moore just makes you excited to watch d J Moore. That was like, that was my number one takeaway of the night. As much as Josh Allen and Baker Mayfield and Antonio Callaway looked good, d J. Moore with that move that you just don't see from many NFL players. Let's move on and uh take a look at Andrew Luck. He played. He played a football game, Ladies and gentlemen, West. Luck played in his first game since the finale of the twenty sixteen season, and uh didn't do much six of nine sixty four yards, but also did did something which I think is more important even than throwing the ball. He took a couple of hits and showed no signs of issues with the injured shoulder or the repaired shoulder. Yeah. Quite the contrast with Josh Allen, who really let it rip on several different throws and was unafraid to go attack down the field. Luck either didn't have the opportunity or just didn't pull the trigger on on those letter rip throws that would have shown you, like a huge confidence in his shoulder. On the other hand, there were no plays where you didn't feel confident in his shoulder. And he said, uh, you know, I feel good about more of the short in the medium game than I do about trying to throw deep balls. It's not a physical limitation. It sounds like that still might be knocking the rust off mentally on that he he said after the game, I tried to control my emotions. Then I said, screw it. I really had fun. I enjoyed it, just like his joy of playing and having it being taken away from him. That we're getting into intangibles here, But you do wonder he's a he's a more mature guy since this injury, he's been in the league a while. You do wonder just how that all comes together and whether that's gonna maybe help him have like a better year than ever. Just had like enjoying the process of it and knowing how lucky is to be back. Anything From the Seattle side, Chris Carson looked good. He he looks good always in the preseason, and we haven't talked about on this podcast, but he has been the starting running back throughout training camp over Rashad Penny, their first round pick. They're also playing Trey Flowers, who's a rookie cornerback as a starter right now. He played there's another Tray
Flowers. There's another Tree Flowers, except no, why on the end of Trey uh. So they have They have more starting jobs open, I think than any other team in the league right now, running back, wide receiver, a lot of their offensive lines, some of the defensive line. That's how Carol likes it, like cornerback, he does. And then the Colts. The Colts one quick thing is just that keeping it like they've lost their left tackle, Anthony Costanzo. They're playing Matt Haigue u Joe Haigue rather at left tackle. Who who's their backup center? Who is playing center most of the game left tackle for part of it. They picked up JaMarcus Webb luck got sacked when he blew a block, and so that you do get a little worried that it's well. They also lost Marlon Mack went down and Dion Kane left with the knee injury. Just an injuries to monitor. When you say they lost costan it's at hamstring injuries. Not like they lost him for the season, no, but he missed almost the entire offseason with that hamstring injury, got activated and then got hurt two days later. So he has been coming back from that for about six months. And that's if I'm a Colts fan, that freaks me out because they don't really have a backup. And then Philip Walker added a ten yard touchdown past the Darryl Daniels early in the fourth quarter they needed it. Indianapolis held on for a nineteen seventeen win Philip Walkers And that's a big win. If you can go to if you can go on the road to the clink and come out with a victory, that's how you get your preseason started off correctly in the momentum to carry you through the next three weeks. I finished, and this is not the same defense, I understand it. But when you can go into Seattle, you make a state. Well the think about the previ it's kind of like college football almost boiled down. Even further, it's like every game matters because when you're oh and one, your season's almost over. For the Seahawks, their backs are right now against the wall. They four, They're a quarter of the way to infamy. Um Alright, moving on, the Chicago Bears and Cincinnati Bengals played football, and West I'm gonna tee up again here because I know you are a lapsed uh Catholic. You're also a lapsed Bengals fan, so I wanted to see. You often laugh at the Bengals and and their putriot offense last season, but this team, forging about the pick six, this team looks like they're going to be able to move the ball. Yes or no, I would use recovered rather than lapsed in both of those instances. But yes, the Bengals offense looked good. The pick six came on a plane which John Ross slipped and fell and would not have been an interception otherwise. Is that's not even that's just bad luck. That's not even Andy Dalton doing anything wrong. So to me, they moved the ball well. John Ross looked good. Joe Mixing had a play a touchdown where he slipped the tackle, did a spin move, slipped another tackle, uh and got in for the score. This this looks like a much better offense than last year. It's almost like you look around the entire a f C North and Pittsburgh is gonna stay obviously what they are. But I thought the Bengals and Ravens last year had obvious issues on offense, and we're tough to watch at times. Cleveland was a raging disaster. All three teams of the all of those three teams in the FC North have a lot more going on in offense. It feels like a division that's going to produce another three playoff teams again, and I based that entirely on preseason games from last night. Mixon and the offensive Lion. The combination of those two improving, which I think they both will, changes everything for Andy Dalton and the rest of the team. My one Bears takeaway, I'm not sure exactly what this means, but Kevin White was targeted twice on the opening drive, so maybe they're seeing him as a guy who has a chance to start. Mitchell Robinsky didn't play in the first week. They had one negative one yard in eight plays with him on the field. He was not happy with that offense and he's had some struggles and training. I don't think we nervous now. I don't think they bayed him. Yeah, I mean he only played eight play up for four or four yards, sacked once into missing a couple of the starters. Adam Sheehan, who is just a big dude, uh, and they seem to be talking him up as a guy that could have a big part of their offense. Look pretty good at the big assumption in this offseason. As we know the Bears have been hype bunnies, is that they're going to kind of follow on some level the Rams path. But that a lot of that hinges on Mitch Drobinsky being able to do with Jared Goff did last year, which is to take all the rookie bumps and then just become a much more complete quarterback. We have to see if he can pull that, and he's a year ago this time. He was kind of like the Josh Allen that the foball cogniscenti wrote off before his career even started. It's just the pause cognisance. One note here. The Bengals off to a one of note start here in the preseason. If you remember, I believe it was some sort of Sandwich wager where I believe that I said five teams would finish undefeated in the preseason, and the Bengals are one of those teams that I'm tracking to A commis half. You're gonna have half the league after the first week, so that's pretty that. I'm off to a fine Roquan Smith has been holding out ridiculous. It's really ridiculous. It's the Bears. I'm laing the man making millions to play a boy's game. Now I'm blaming the Bears. I think we need like a low level mafia figure to get in here, the agent to do something. You making billions of football team, go back, mafia man, we did. We need a functioning. We need a licensed agent to step in and handle this. Thank you, Cincinnati thirty Bears seven. Moving on, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and Miami Dobbins showed up show showdown with the state of Florida on the line. It was speaking of return to action Ryan Tannehill, who we have not seen about the eggs. They're you know, they're just
chilling. Yes, bye, Jack's gotta buy anyway, Ryan townehill first game actions is December eleven. Where were you? Mark? Probably unhappy about the brown It's like feels like three weeks ago. Well here, slightly annoyed with a lot of things. Anyway. Uh. He in limited work of course, four of six thirty two yards only one series. But Greg, that's that's all you're looking for. A guy coming back from a major knee injury. He got down the field, check off some rust and is healthy. Yeah, that everything so far, He's checked all the boxes. The problem. I'm more worried about everything around him. I mean, because he's not a guy that's gonna lift up the players around him. DeVante Parker's reportedly had a really bad training camp and dominated by Xavier Howard. He was absent, like David, David fails and is beating brock Oswiler for the backup job right now. So there's I think there's concerns, and I think the Dolphins fans share it because if you looked in the crowd last night they announced thirty thousand, that place looked empty. And the scrimmage that they had last weekend, which definitely raised some eyebrows for locals, had about like four or five thousand people show up for like a free scrimmage, and that's the type of thing in a big in a big NFL town, You're getting thirty you know, of course, like Lambo's literally packed out months in advance with that sort of thing, and they got five thousand, and last night was I'm just there's not a lot of buzz right So when we were growing up, I mean, Miami has been played. They're sort of like Los Angeles, but they're in It's August and South beach. There's are you gonna go to a two d degree hot Dolphins scrimmage? You're gonna go to the beach and have that kind of a time. I'd go, I'd make go do that, go to all the hot nightclub. Well that too, make a whole day of it. It's a weird sports down and they the Marlins draw like people game the Dolphins seems the Dolphins fourth quarter, but I think right now they're not an inspiring I think the Heat do pretty well there, but obviously with Lebron it was different. But uh yeah, anyway, something the track on the Bucks side, I just will throw it out there that uh, because you know I'm plugged in on the kicker situation for all thirty two. Uh. They had three kickers last year the Bucks, including our boy Robbie uh and Folk. Both of those guys are Histy Chandler Canazaro, who did a nice job for the Jets last year, but let's not go crazy, got a lot of money from the Bucks to solidify the position. He immediately misses an extra point and a fifty yard field goal, so you know, let's hope that maybe he won the gate. He won the preseason game in Did I miss? Did I miss that? He won the I think he hit the game winner. By the way, Ronald Jones, I don't feel bad. I mean, he still missed a couple of kicks, but yeah, how long is the kick? Come on, that's an extra point. That's less than an extra point. Did we want to see a little more from Ronald Jones? Eight rushes for nine yards? No, that's exactly what they were hoping for. Okay, well, good job Ronald Jones. Starting three rookies in the secondary right now. That secondary has been one of the worst in the league, and they are counting on a pair of rookies at cornerback and maybe one it's safety to play some significant snaps. To your point, to a couple, it is weird to roll out Jamis Winston second in these games. It's just strange. It's just an awkward You don't see this in the NFL. Um all right now, this is why Mark is here today. Third and four, Mayfield for the bullet away and the touchdown Baker Mayfield to Antonio Callaway seventy yards? Was it believe it was? What a big time fifty six yards? Uh? The Cleveland Browns got two touchdown passes from the number one overall pick Baker Mayfield in a win over the Giants, and Mark I would imagine, Uh, that combined with Tyrod Taylor looking really good, is a perfect way to start your preseason. Well, I mean, you know, the staff that they've thrown around endlessly is the Cleveland has what eleven first round picks that they've that are no longer on the team, so that the customary experience is around game one, two or three of the preseason, if not deep in September, you realize this guy is not who we thought he was, or the team thought he was, or the fleet of scouts thought he was when picked. And so the Mayfield comes out and produces a quick three and out right away, and I thought, all right, you know, I'm not gonna you know this. It's a little early to to judge. But that wasn't inspiring. The second drive, though, he started to show what I thought was drive extending abilities, which was seeing the field. Uh, not just looking off your first guy, which a rookie might do in his first game, but maybe he's throwing to the second or third option to Uh. I thought, brainy kind of choices to run the ball out of the pocket and extend and and get and move the chains on a third down in a critical fourth down and really making it a touchdown. A couple throws on that try, but the touchdown throw to David Njoku was put into place where no one but David and Joku could catch it. It was a perfectly placed ball, and you know, we're covering the game and it's happening so fast we're writing it up. I thought that Brian Balding or bald he put together a reel this morning of what he saw and he called it one of the better preseason performances he's ever seen by rookie quarterback. So I clicked in obviously to see what was going on there. But he really I thought elucidated with each of these throws that Baker Millfield is in a different place than any previous Browns rookie that I've ever seen since maybe Bernie Kozar. I love it. Just his ability to see the field and what he's doing feels like I think he's been taught very well from the college game on up versus previous quarterbacks they've had like a Johnny Man's Like the last thing you think watching him is he's coming from sort of some offense that doesn't translate to the NFL.
It's the total opposite. He looks so comfortable his footwork, like his feet are just awesome to watch. I mean, I'm kind of with Baldy. I mean, it's just it's just a preseason game. But that's what you want to see is some things that just make you excited. And I can't imagine like getting more excited off than off of that performance. And Tyrod Taylor five or five for ninety nine yards and that we know what we're getting in Tyrod Taylor, like he's he is a steady guy. And I tweeted this last night. God has a sense of humor. The I believe in Baker Mayfield. I know who Tyrod Taylor's. They have two competent quarterbacks, this coming off twenty years where they had zero. So now the decision is for Hugh. And by the way, let me just make a quick aside. I don't think in the court of public opinion that the Hard Knocks premiere was on balance good for the Browns. I thought, especially Hugh Jackson took a lot of fire. It was nice for them now to have this preseason game where the quarterbacks look great, all of a sudden, you know it's not open season on your Brownies mark because they again you look at them agin like, oh wow, this might be a team with a future. The decision now for Hugh Jackson is how long do you wait before Baker Mayfield is a starter, because if he continues to look good, just like with the Jets and Donald, if the young kid looks good, what what what are you waiting for? Yeah? I mean, I think it's the kind of decision if you're an NFL coach you'd much rather have than what they've been faced with in that city for years and years. And they'll figure that out. But I mean, when you have a good quarterback. One thing that I noticed, because watching a lot of these skill position players in Cleveland that have just been there and they're floating through the year, that a guy like David the Joke who suddenly has two touchdowns and looks athletic and is in the right place, and Antonio Callaway looked fantastic. It's like a quarterback that knows where to put the ball, everyone around him starts to look better. That simply hasn't happen happened in Cleveland for a long time. Their running game was an absolute disaster. So they're gonna need to throw the ball if it stays looking like that. I can't remember the last Browns player I was excited for as much as Baker Mayfield. It might not be in since Tim cal maybe Tim Couch. I don't think it was. Red Weed is still still in the league, by the way, and he's uh in Houston last night. Um and yes a qualifier, Yes, yes, yes, don't tweet at me or any of us. Oh yeah, way to overreact game one, if you let's just have some fun. These guys look like in time you're looking for trade. We're not saying it's kind of translate, but you still it's still hard to make those throws that he's made. You don't see that. You also, I thought that then a joke could touchdown the easier one. You were. You were reminded why the Rams treated Algol Tree, which is kind of like an under the radar move that happened this offseason, and he struggles in coverage, and that's something I think for the Giants to walk. Speaking of the Giants, this was the first carry of se Kwon Barkley's NFL career. Barkley gets the first touch. Barkley makes a fear miss. That's why he was second overall out across the fee, chased out at the ground forty eight yard line, a thirty nine yard run and the first talk. Well, all right, so that's that's the radio call that um, you know, the nice job there, but they that does not at all describe what you witnessed, which was him taking the handoff, patiently watching the line, shifting to his right, burning passed him on Emmanuel Ogba, right through the heart of the Browns defense and up the right sideline. It was a beautiful, beautiful run. Now he didn't Nothing came close to it after he really was. He was shut down on his next three carries, but who cares. It was a It was a little bit of a flash forward to what it Also, it's a thing like, oh the Giants, how long have they've been without a ground game? How many eons will pass before it's zero? Help? You're getting thirty nine yards a game from that backfield. It's a completely different element and it makes them more interesting to watch, That's all you want. Beckham not even on the field yet, does they ease him back into action after the broken ankle last year. You can understand why people get excited about the Giants if these two guys are on the field at the same time. I feel like all of these teams that have been dormats have given us reasons to be excited, and that's unusual this early, and that that's why I think we focused the show on this one preseason week because a lot it is just one game, Like these players are dotted on teams that have been in desperate situations for a long time. Be next week they all fall on their faces and am likely uh two more quick Brown's nuts for you, move on. Dez Bryant was tweeting again yesterday. Uh after John Dorsey Brown's GM said that des wasn't returning phone calls, he said, I'm getting there. He'll be there, I guess next week for a meeting. According to rap Sheet and more importantly, UM, the number one source for all things QB judgment related, the top scout, I feel like in this country, Mark Wahlberg. He had something to say on his Instagram the first season game touchdowns getting the number six, come on, goose bump smart. I enjoyed watching that this morning, no Mark Wallberg's comments. Watched that because you put that into our direct messaging client this morning, and I looked at I thought, initially I thought he was making a joke that there were other stars on the Browns that he was been tracking, But he meant Lebron. It was early, so moving on a tough way to begin the defense of their Super Bowl title. The Philadelphia Eagles get waxed. WHOA Peterson got a figure? Whoa thirty one fourteen win for the Steelers um a game that no Carson Wentz obviously did Nick Voles play? Does anybody know anything about this game? I have one or two minor
notes, but Nugs, Well, it's more on the Steelers side. I I think that Mason Rudolph has a nice arm. I think he's he could be their quarterback. Um, he'll slip right in when with Big Ben goes. You heard those you know, draft knicks. There were a handful of them that liked Mathan Rudolph more than some of those top four quarterbacks that got taken at the top of the draft. Not many of them, and certainly NFL teams didn't agree because he fell so far. Not many other notes if I'm getting the Eagles. By the way, as we know, Trey Burton left in free agency, they brought in Dallas Goddard UH four for sixty six and a touchdown. Uh. You imagine that he might be a guy who can make an instant impact for that offense. Eagles are gonna be fine. They're gonna get over this loss, but it's gonna take some time. Sidney Jones is just someone I've been tracking during training camp. Was a second round pick that people thought could have been a top fifteen pick at cornerback a year ago, missed his entire rookie season because of that injury, and everyone's liked how he's looked at camp. He was there starting slot guy last night. And so that's a team I think actually can be better in the secondary than they were a year ago. Moving on the New Orleans Saints and Jacksonville Jaguars, so that Jacks had to buy in the who is the King of Florida? So that just to pass the time they went up against the Saints on on Thursday. UH. And Cody Kessler, Uh, this is a guy to watch here because we all know Blake Bortless struggles. UH And then everybody's like Cody Kessler, everybody myself included. Uh, is that a real guy to be a backup in case things go sideways for Blake Bortles and Casey gets hurt. Remember, this is a team that is very close to being a super Bowl team in Jacksonville. Well, he looked apart Mark Sessler fourteen of seventeen, one thirty nine and a touch against the Saints on Thursday night. He reeled off a couple of practices lately to where he had these sort of nine for nine with a two touchdown type thing. The bigger story for me because I think again it's Blake Portals is gonna live with this until he doesn't. Is constantly doubted, uh for appropriate reasons and others. And he came out, I thought in the first drive and looked good, converted a nice third down past d d Westbrook, ran in for a touchdown six for ninete. It's I mean, the offense look competent. They rolled right through the Saints defense on that first drive. Then they all fled the field. I don't know what else to make of the game. The Saints to me, no, Drew Brees, uh, not overly impressive. On defense. Let's start there. They and the word from Saints camp is like they've had the best camp for a defense that they've had in a long long time. And on paper, it is a better defense. They're deeper at linebacker, it's a it's the youngest secondary in NFL history. I believe we're in the last seven or eight years a year ago and they're all growing up and should be better. I didn't. I don't know what to take from this one. But now, but Greg, you're coming off a big twenty preseason loss. You have to circle the wagons if you're the Saints now looking Saints yourselves. The Saints pulled it off, but still there's a lot. There's a lot to take away from them. You know, I think the early part of the game. You know, what do you do if you're the Saints. I don't know what I'm talking to game Tom Savage a newcomer in hold on to that roster spot, Tommy, stay in the league, get paid ominous to open your season with Tom savast Tom Savage storm in the first past for you, I think I mean someone someone named Davarro Lawrence. I believes a second year undrafted guy had three sacks playing with you know in the I think in the first almost all in the first half. So that's like, you know, for him, Like that's what the preseason is about. Like you might end up seeing him playing a lot for the Saints and we don't know who he is. Moving on, We're just moving right along, guys. Oh, by the way, mark one more Brown's note. That's five straight preseason wins for the Cleveland Browns dating back to last They were undefeated last year in the preseason. I know, and everyone talks about, oh, you went oh in sixteen, and I what I point to is what happened in August, And I said, there's a lot of there's a lot of pride and accomplishment right there. Moving on, the New England Patriots. Uh, it's definitely the highlight of the Shawn Kaiser's Brown's career was last August. I would say the New England Patriots. Uh, we're down seventeen nothing to the Redskins that Thursday night. But you know they never say die, Hey, go watch Super Bowl fifty one? Am I right west? Anyway? Uh, Tom Brady didn't play, Rob Gronkowski did not play. Uh, Brian Hoyer played, but didn't play very well. In fact, things got off to a really source start for New England. And then some poor poor man working for the local uh uh affiliate in Boston. I think, w ez, he's a lifer. Yeah, he's a life for Steve Burton. They dispatched that poor man. I don't know what he did to piss somebody off. They dispatch him down to the Patriots sideline to ask what Bill Belichick thought about the first quarter performance of the New England Patriots. Here is how that went, coach, preseason football is not about winning and losing. Not to hope to get out of the first half. We need to do pretty much everything better, just not good nothing in any area. It's good to see good situational football scoring at the end of the half. Anyway, Yeah, about thirty eight seconds of good football. That's the toughest job in sports media. He did come around and laugh at the end. The funny thing is, I think, like that's like a guy he gets along with because he's been there forever, and it's just like it seems he seemed pretty uncomfortable, Like it was even like an awkward handshake at the end, because the guy didn't know what else to do. He's like, I don't have any other questions. Uh shake my hand though, this Greg, this is how you do the
breaking news drop. Oh hit it. Speaking of the Patriots Redskins game, an injury to Darius Guys that was thought to be a torn mcl ian Rappaport is now reporting is a torn brutal. It's a killer for them. He that whole offense was gonna be based around him, completely changing that ground game. That, by the way, Greg, that is how you do it. This is this is getting hard hitting Dan reaction in real time. That's crushing because he was this guy who was a bit of a controversial figure on draft day. They bring him in and he's lurking as a sleeper in that offense, a guy that could really Redskins have announced it, confronts officials, so he's out for the year. I assume for the one other note, we have one other bit of breaking news. Redskins tight end Manassa Garner also to miss the season with a torn a c O. That's not I thought it made a lot of sense. Mark, you got news. I just like the sound of the breaking news drop, Like, so what what Dan is saying is that he cares about some human health and happiness and their well being. Any completely disregard. That's right, Greg. I I think that Greg is summed this up appropriately an unlikely tea. Yeah, that's right, that's right. Um So guys out for the year, and that is Gregg. That is crushing for a team that was really counting on an instant impact. Yeah, sadly, that's you know, the biggest news from preseason week one, or at least Thursday Night's action by far. I mean there, it just changes what they want to do. Chris Thompson's coming back from a serious injury. He's a third down back. They're now not calling Rob Kelly fat Rob Kelly. He's now fit Rob Kelly. And and it looks like, you know, fit Rob is going to have to be back in the mix. Uh. I would think as almost a starter for that team. This might save samaj Perens roster spot. Yeah, that's a shame because on the play he got hurt. Oh he looked great too, Like that was the reason why why you know, watching the little that I did, he he was the guy I was most excited about watching, other than Juan Barkley just had such a fun style of of running. It wasn't like he had injury issues either in college. The Redskins can't catch a break with injuries. That's awful. Last year almost their whole offense went down. And now here you go the guy that maybe you're most excited to watch. They There was an article in the Washington Post today. I believe that since two thousand and ten, they are consistently among, if not the most injured teams in the NFL. I think what the Redskins should do. You get the Grooden brothers together and combine the Raiders and Redskins into one team. Maybe this is an opportunity to just move away from the well. I think that's that's a roster you put those Dude's a shame one quick pats takeaway Derek Rivers, who missed all of his rookie here is a big man and they need a pass roshur. He looks a little like Willie mcguinnis out there. He's coming off. He's coming off in a c L. But he's looked pretty good. And Jason mccordy, who's a guy people
just kind of slotted in, is going to be their starting cornerback. Has been running with the third team in in practices pretty often. Didn't even play last night. You might not get the mccordy brothers. How about this, You think Jeremy Hill I used to spot on the roster last night. It's if everyone's healthy, it's probably him or Mike GILLISLEI. And he looked pretty good, Jeremy Hill. And one more note on Tom Brady probably would not have played in this game, but Boston Globe reporting he does have a sore back. Just keep an eye on these things. He's an old man. That's what happens in old age. And get old, you start feeling pain, starts get taked. It's stiff sciatic. Remember Larry Bird laying on the laid out and in the Dream Team he was on the floor for most of that. Even as a child, you knew that. You can tell this man's career is ebbing slowly towards its conclusion. There are in the same geographical reason the mate that maybe happens. I'm gonna say that Tom Brady is not moving the way Larry Bird was moving at He's moving a lot better than Larry Bird had retired like six years younger than than It's Brady is now seven or eight. He wasn't winning m vps undefeated. It's all I'm saying. We got Hoyer, So that's all. Good. Is your home in a d T home. Get a d T and help protect against break ins, fire and carpet man side For a limited time, get a d T S lowest rates starting at just twenty ninety nine a month for the most trusted name and home security. That's just a dollar a day. Our own a d T is the first security company to help keep you safe at home and when you're on the go with a new a d T go app. I've got it, I use it, and I feel like it's effective. My home safe at all times or appears to be uh and a d T helps. Go to a d T dot com slash podcast to take advantage of a d T S lowest rate a d T Trusted, Trusted, Tested, proven, with thirty six month monitoring contract. Early termination and installation fees apply. 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But if you are a season ticket holder and they make you pay full price for the preseason games, the two preseason games, don't you deserve Ann Cooper Cup? Because those are things like we're growing up in Jets Giants territory. The only games you could go to because they were so expensive and you couldn't even get into Giants games were preseason games. And you go, I go watch Browns Jets in the preseason and the players that you adore that are all over your childhood bedroom walls, are in the game for seven minutes, right, what what are you doing? There may be a solution, Oh Dan, stop being a jerk. What's your solution? It's like of a real football game, so charge like of what a regular season ticket is for those two games. You're not being a jerk. You're a man from a cool town working out for the working class customer us. Where I grew up, it was hard to get any football takes, and we with my dad, we would go to a lot of the preseason games because those are the tickets that'd be floating around the guys that got stuck where my dad worked the mine. Yeah, they'd like, hey, do you want to take these two tickets? And I they'd come up. They put the two tickets in the bucket at the bottom of the coal mine, and then they shimmy it up well. And then I was a little little boy in the big blue eyes. I'd be looking down that well and like dad, dad, and I wouldn't see my dad, but then i'd see the two like the Jets versus the Dolphins preseason action or Jets Eagles, and then we'd be off to the medal ends. Two notes odd to play a division foe in the preseason. Secondly, why why bring the tickets down into the coal mine. It feels like you'd keep those in an envelope at home. My I was as a boy, I was kept shielded from what happened down in the coal mine. Well, um, so was your whole family, and that's your dad. Honestly, I don't love talking about happen this is there is a code to pr Pearl River that we don't talk about what happens down in the coal mine. So I would appreciate if you stop asking what's happening down the shad. That is my job to ask those questions. Anyway. Point you know these preseason they were
fun as a boy to go do. But with a free ticket. I'm sure it didn't hurt Dad as much. Okay, it's kind of a playful song for the coal mines. Someone just had a nice little rippidy in there. Well, the music is a release for us. It's a way to express that. Yeah, sometimes times are tough, but we're a community and we celebrate with the guitar. Listen, you asked the follow up with us. By the way, can I point out one one box score that is putrid by the way. Shout out to Keith Hanss who had knee surgery, knee replacement surgery, Get well soon. He's moving. He's like Nameth now he has a a fake knee that is going to ramp up his uh uh, his quality of life significantly. So we're excited. Good opportunities to to to sit down and listen to this show a little bit. I'd imagine it puts it puts uh. It puts a lot of stress on your knee in the coal line, you know, you can only imagine. I'm just glad he doesn't have black lung The lungs are intact. Thank god. All right, Joe flacc will look good by the way, I mean, he is moving better. He made a throw moving to his left thirty yards down the field, and I know people are like, well, he's playing the backups. No, you just have to watch the game. He's moving better. He looked really like, he looked like he was moving better than he had in a couple How do you keep but that were beautiful. Here's the thing though, watching Lamar Jackson run, it's kind of like Josh Allen throwing the way that Lamar Jackson just sort of winds his way through defenders for suddenly twelve yards, fourteen yards, and no one knows what to do with him. I don't know how you keep him off the field. I'm not saying it's starting quarterback. Teams don't want you to. I think he's doing I think he could be Michael. I think he could be Michael Vick like where, yes, you can do it. He has not been lights out in these first two preseason games throwing the ball by any measure. But yes, but the Rams are saying that those reports, not the Rams, are saying that Sean Manyon, who we were crowing about a couple of years ago here, well just as this sort of sneaky guy did remember, No, remember, we Rams really like Sean Manyon. You're really excited about three for thirteen with an interception, and they said that he's really been struggling in camps. So we'll see alright, moving on. Uh did I say final scoring that game, by the way, because it was what a crash down back to earth for the Rams after they're well, you know, we were told that, um, whenever we appear at a RAMS event like we did for the playoff game, that we are bad luck. We were told that by the team, a high up executive on the team, and within days of our arrival at RAMS camp, they get stone by the Ravens and were at this game well. Moving on the Houston Texans and Kansas City Chiefs. Uh. Deshaun Watson made his return to the field after missing the end of last year with an a c l uh tear. He did not do much. I think he played one series. Uh. What did you see maybe from any of the quarterbacks, including Patrick Mahomes? Absolutely nothing. This is a zero takeaways game. Deshaun Watson threw one pass for four yards. Um, he only played one series. They got him out healthy. He looked fine. Patrick Mahomes played two series, both ended in punts, took a sacking, over threw Travis Kelsey on the second series. Um. That's all really you can take from this game. I think I didn't keep a close eye on the second half because I was writing Josh Allen another thing. No need to explain yourself, But the starting quarterbacks, like the coaches, just didn't give us much to go on here. How is us? Step Durham's one snap at left cornerback number. His name is step He has a zero point zero on PFF, so they didn't think much positive word. I didn't scout him. Brandon Weeden, who came up let a twelve yard sixty twelve place sixty eight yard scoring drive cap by six yard touchdown pass to rookie tight end, Jordan's Atkins quarterback controversy interesting. And Eric Barry, by the way, in case you're wondering coming back from achilles surgery, did not play in the game. Something weird's going on with Jadevean Clowney. They're saying it's not in football shape. There's a contract situation looming that's been on my radar, Like, what's something going right about that? Um, The difference between the way your radar works in the way marks up. Next, let's talk about the Green bit Packers and Tennessee Tytoons. Matt LeFleur so I pronounced if you want to correct French based pronunciation, matt Leflaire. His first game is offensive coordinator and a lot of people think this could unlock Marcus Mariotta and Mariotta only had one drive, but the Titans marched down the field eight play seventy one yards or a touchdown. Three passes, one run by Mariotta. So so far, so good. Greg Rosenthal. Yeah, and I think from you know, the Packers winning seventeen, it's like Aaron Rodgers, let you read them the riot Act and they responded, that's so true. You're so right. That's just it's up there with relax. That's leadership. Who's a Martellis Bennett said this week in some interview that Aaron Rodgers the best pure thrower of any quarterback he's played with, but Tom Brady the better quarterback just because of the intangibles as well and being a teammate. Well, maybe Marty Bennett should take a look at what happened today with on Thursday night with Green Bay, how they reacted. Well, maybe you changed his opinion. Now maybe this could feels likely the preseason opener would have that kind of gravitas. Honley h looks like he's ahead of your boy, Deshaun Kaiser right now for the backup job? Whose boys at Mark Mark? No, it's not my boy. Not good news for Deshauan Kaiser or Mike McCarthy. Packers do have some interesting young receivers, though, This guy Marquez Valdez Scantling. I like the name to begin with doesn't sound real, but hundred and one yards last night and Jake Kumero he had at two yard fifty two yard bomb TD and Rogers was going nuts on the sideline. I don't know
what's going on with Aaron Rodgers and Jake Kumer. I think Rogers adopted in something else. I don't know. Something interesting about that situation. Uh Adams at a forty eight yard catch, by the way, top five Fantasy wide receiver, Davante Adams, and that, by the way, coming up next week next Wednesday, our Fantasy Extravaganza two thousand eighteen. So it has a little tease for what the people can expect. Davante Adams a guy to really target, maybe round two and a PPR league. You know, my first instinct was that sounds strong, just because Davante Adams isn't thought of as a Julio Jones or an Antonio Brown, but he has more tds receiving tds than anyone else over the last two years, and with Jordy Nelson out of the picture, you have to figure he's gonna be He's gonna be a target monster this year. You know, he's the first look in the red zone mid second round pick though you're kind of paying for it. I'm not into that. I'm not into that because I'm looking at Keena. Here are guys taken after him, Keenan Allen, A. J. Green, Mike Evans, t Y Helton. It's like I'd rather have That's that's fair. It's fair, dog, that's fair dogs. All right? Moving on? Hey, Dan, did you get your pass? No? Not, since you better get on that. I am you can't travel. You can't travel to London without a pass. Hey what London? Are you dumb? Okay? Where are that wasn't really passive at the end. No, that was pretty aggressive. Uh, just straight funny thing about that. There's literally nothing you can do at this point. No, you're simply waiting on government agencies to get your pass. You could have maybe had a working passport before that. That might have that would have been a functional answer. Some people get to Galivan to Japan and back every year. Not all of us have that in the cards. We can't even afford to fly some of us. Some of us have a sort of an odd fear of leaving the country. What about Canada, I mean, it's just good to have I do have to go to Canada for Mexico. It's very close. You just never know. If I didn't have my passport yet, I would be riddled with anxiety. That's what I'm saying. Today is August ten, and we're leaving in exactly three weeks. Did you get the expedited version and whatnot? It was in the window where I didn't need to do that. No, No, I got this. You don't do you don't just you know I would have gotten that at expedit And this is on you. I recently had to do the same thing before I went to Mexico, and I was under the same situation. You actually cannot try to get the expedited one unless you're within the window. I got the expedited one a few weeks ago, and it arrived. You. I know what you're talking about, Lindsay. That's a different scenario where if you were inside a certain window you can get it almost day of. I wasn't. That wasn't an option. There is for a higher pay, you can get the expedited I said, Hey, I'm in the window. Daddy's in the window. Well, guess what, Daddy's in hot water right now. Daddy's in the anxiety window. I mean, ultimately, Wes Wes, you handled this correctly. By doing you paid a little bit of extra money to get this thing done. Dan is sitting in limbo and we've have chorus singers counseling. You're a professional. I really, I absolutely love professional passport paperwork. So to me, it was like, I'm willing to pay this extortion right to get rid of the anxiety that I know Dan is current. This is an upset because we kind of talked about before all this happened, that West versus paperwork is one of the biggest position battles, one of the biggest matches of the last ten years. At least in my life. I've done nothing wrong. I did the paperwork within the window. It just you know, listen, you're gonna be all right. Well, the government failed me is the question. How could how could the American government possibly let you downst scenario? Neil hosts like three shows that week for US where this case scenario you get arrested. By the way, this is happening again. By the way, this guy Mark this comes up almost every week now Greg starts the daydream about a different host. It's not only on the show it's down in the news from off these like everyone's joking around like, oh yeah, the next thing is so and so is the host. You wouldn't be like you just wouldn't be on the show for like maybe three weeks, but maybe it would extend to maybe a couple of months. You wouldn't be on the show, and we'd have to find a work around. It was Eric Scarelli was floated. I believe at one point earlier, we have to be prepared if there's like a car accident. I know there's a there's a replacement me down there in the newsroom. There's a replacement for us. Dan and Coscarelli aren't allowed to travel on the same airplane. All right. Finally, one last game to talk about. Uh, the renewal of an old rivalry, one of the greats forty Niners and Cowboys, and uh, here we go. It starts win for the Niners. Um, listen, this is a game I don't have any awareness of. So somebody else jump in. I think the bigger takeaway here than the Jimmy Garoppolos side, which was, you know, he really didn't play that much and we need to see more of him, was that we had Cold Beasley come out and say that the Dallas wide receiving corps was gonna shock people. I don't know if they shocked people, I wouldn't say that. But Michael Gallup, using his speed, made an incredible touchdown cast catch off a beautiful pass from Dak Prescott to open the game. Then the Dallas offense essentially went off the field. There was no Ezekial Elliott, but a nice start for him and they need him to step up and be a starter right away, and he looked a part yesterday. I'm not saying these are the two best uniforms in the NFL, but I've noticed the last couple of times this matchup has has occurred, this is the best uniform matchup because they each other. So it's a clean, crisp look when these two teams, and as we talked about, let's say it's the other thing about it. They haven't gone and changed the uniform times, so it
reminds you of when they played back when it was Akman Verse, Steve Young and back in those days and previous rivalries too. I'm glad Dak went out there and did something positive, not just because people have been freaking out that their offense is struggled in camp, but that that graffiti mural of him, um that puts him in the in the sunken place, that looks like they get out thing like that. It's that haunts me, like I I don't know if I can look at Dak Prescott the same way. I guess it's an effective pieces. Maybe it is unfair where is this, but it is? It is just I don't know there's something about that I have I have not stopped thinking about that since I saw its effective effective. The context of course being that Dak Prescott has said openly and publicly that he believes everyone should stand for the anthem and that he's you know, supporting everything Jerry Jones said and the ownership, you know, and Jerry Jones said like, just I believe Yester Thursday, you know, like I I love everything that that said. And I don't know there's something to it. So I'm I'm not worried about Dak Prescott that that he's had a tough training camp. Be there one little Niners note that this game they started Yankee starters immediately by the end of the first quarter because they lost George Kittle they're tight end to a shoulder energy, Matt Rita to a shoulder injury. They had I think with Solomon Thomas left with a head injury, concussion, they had a guy with a hamstring to I mean they had five five guys leave the game in the first ten minutes. It's like evacuate ship. It feels like Kittle's injury. I believe this morning they said it was not serious. Um. Two more notes. Uh in the DC area, the Ravens to know, well, they're the only team that can go five and oh that's the advantage of playing in the Hall of Fame game. They control their own destiny. Their magic number right now is three. That's you just get goose bumps thinking what could happen is the last week of the preseason if they have that opportunity. So we'll track that breathlessly. Also speaking of that area, so guys, again, that's a bombshell. The rookie second round pick for the Redskins out for the year with the torn a c L doesn't open the door West, but youah, boy Adrian Peterson to get a job, that's a good question. My assumption is that they'll try. They'll turn to Rob Kelly and Somaj peering first with Chris Thompson playing on passing downs. I know, I just feel like they would look in the house on that if ever there was a team now I could kind of it just somehow makes a little sense that they'd give give Peterson a shot. You know, not every team I think would, and kind of makes sense because you have your passing down back. You really don't have options that you like at all for the power downs. You're under the impression they don't like Rob Kelly and yeah I am. Maybe they didn't like fat Rob, but they like fit Robe. All right, we will be back on Monday and we'll recap the rest of the preseason. Action has got a special guest on Monday, too, very special guest. I don't want to even say yet, no, no, no, but hold on a pretty big fish in a in the entertainment, genuine superstar, if it happens, a legend of his field. I'm not talking about Evan Silva. I'm talking about and it's a he. So let's not no, it's not little Debbie. We're holding her for another time. Of course. Now he said to be the most famous person ever on this podcast. Yes, little maybe little Debbie adjacent adjacent too, little Daddy. We'll get to it, you'll find out, hopefully, unless this person does not actually come on the show, and then everyone will just be annoyed about us. All right, that's it. This is Dan Hansons signing off for a quiet storm, the Mailman, the old Boss, and let's see full time on the glass. Bitcoin Princess win Bitcoorn, Prince Stillman, d