Full Transcript for With Great Power #355... 22 Panels with Zack Quaintance

has to take his, world and characters a little bit seriously with his stuff. 51 00:04:36.610 --> 00:04:38.460 Tad Eggleston: Yeah, no, I… I mean… 52 00:04:40.120 --> 00:04:49.700 Tad Eggleston: as it happens, I have him on the schedule to talk about Babs, so I'm certain that I will be asking stuff like that, but I don't think he ever… 53 00:04:50.940 --> 00:04:55.469 Tad Eggleston: It never feels like he's not aware that he's gonna be talking about some of the stuff. 54 00:04:56.320 --> 00:05:01.089 Tad Eggleston: But I think he always… often tries to, like, sugarcoat the pill. 55 00:05:01.900 --> 00:05:03.439 Zack Quaintance: Yeah, 100%. 56 00:05:03.510 --> 00:05:22.000 Zack Quaintance: Yeah, I mean, that's what I really love about his work, and it's, like, like, I feel like comics has this unique ability to be silly and ridiculous on one page, and then turn the page and just hit you with feelings really hard, that I don't know that other, like, TV and movies 57 00:05:22.290 --> 00:05:33.320 Zack Quaintance: they need a little more time, usually, to change tones, and one of the things I love about comics is the way you're able to do both relentlessly silly stuff and also find deeper meaning. 58 00:05:33.880 --> 00:05:36.749 Tad Eggleston: Yeah, I don't even think you have to turn the page all the time. I mean. 59 00:05:36.750 --> 00:05:37.270 Zack Quaintance: Yeah, yeah. 60 00:05:37.270 --> 00:05:38.559 Tad Eggleston: I think sometimes you can… 61 00:05:38.560 --> 00:05:39.480 Zack Quaintance: Panel, right? 62 00:05:39.480 --> 00:05:42.260 Tad Eggleston: No, I, I, I, I remember, 63 00:05:42.530 --> 00:05:47.879 Tad Eggleston: I saw an interview with Abram X. Kendi right after the… the… 64 00:05:48.050 --> 00:05:57.949 Tad Eggleston: adaptation of Stamped from the Beginning that Jill Christian Gill did with him had come out. He was asked about why he did it in graphic novel format, and he's like, well… 65 00:05:58.200 --> 00:06:11.270 Tad Eggleston: some really heavy stuff. Like, really heavy stuff, and in comics, like, you can bring levity without taking away the gravity in a way that you can't do in prose. 66 00:06:12.270 --> 00:06:14.510 Zack Quaintance: 100%, yeah. 67 00:06:14.510 --> 00:06:27.839 Tad Eggleston: You know, in prose, if you try to bring levity to it, it's like, you suck the gravity out. But in comics, you can do, like, I remember the, like, the running thing in that, because that book… 68 00:06:28.180 --> 00:06:32.490 Tad Eggleston: It deals with race relations from, like, pre… 69 00:06:33.820 --> 00:06:39.630 Tad Eggleston: Revolutionary times up until the current time, but one of the running 70 00:06:40.320 --> 00:06:47.580 Tad Eggleston: running gags, so to speak, is, like, the head of Angela Davis popping up and going, oh, this feels familiar. 71 00:06:48.580 --> 00:06:55.190 Tad Eggleston: You know, so you've got the person from the end of the book popping up in the 1600s going, hmm… 72 00:06:56.890 --> 00:07:02.250 Tad Eggleston: And again, if you do that sort of thing in prose, like… It's… 73 00:07:02.250 --> 00:07:05.780 Zack Quaintance: It's harder to get people to go along with you, with it, that kind of thing, you know. 74 00:07:05.780 --> 00:07:09.460 Tad Eggleston: Whereas you do… you do that in the comic, and you both get to laugh? 75 00:07:09.890 --> 00:07:11.330 Tad Eggleston: But also go. 76 00:07:11.770 --> 00:07:25.780 Tad Eggleston: it, like, both brings the laugh and actually adds to the gravity. Oh, we're not actually just talking about a problem from the 1600s. She's alive now! 77 00:07:25.780 --> 00:07:29.850 Zack Quaintance: That's such a good example. 78 00:07:31.550 --> 00:07:32.450 Zack Quaintance: Yeah. 79 00:07:32.450 --> 00:07:34.410 Tad Eggleston: one of my favorites, just because, I mean. 80 00:07:35.630 --> 00:07:40.249 Tad Eggleston: I loved the book before it was a comic, I think it's an important read, but I think the comic… 81 00:07:40.540 --> 00:07:41.500 Tad Eggleston: is… 82 00:07:42.770 --> 00:07:53.810 Tad Eggleston: So valuable because of the way that it lays all of that out, the way that it bends time, in ways that, as we were just talking about, only comics can. 83 00:07:54.260 --> 00:07:56.919 Zack Quaintance: Yeah, yeah. Yeah, bending time is another… 84 00:07:57.270 --> 00:08:03.770 Zack Quaintance: Thing you can do more… in more interesting ways with comics than you can in prose, or film, even. 85 00:08:03.770 --> 00:08:05.779 Tad Eggleston: Movies, yeah, I mean, it's just… 86 00:08:06.680 --> 00:08:16.440 Tad Eggleston: There's something really special about the comics medium, and it's always fun when creators… Lean into that. 87 00:08:17.530 --> 00:08:21.639 Tad Eggleston: As you leaned into comics tropes. See, I can bring it back. 88 00:08:24.220 --> 00:08:34.039 Zack Quaintance: there was a lot of that in this book, because it's like, you know, I did… last time I was on here, I was talking about my horror comic, which is one… one story, it was a 30-page issue, 89 00:08:34.409 --> 00:08:45.609 Zack Quaintance: And, like, I love horror, and I love horror comics. That's kind of the one genre that's not really represented in this book, because I did it in that one. And so part of the goal with this book was to get to play 90 00:08:45.740 --> 00:08:49.720 Zack Quaintance: With all those other comics tropes and the classic genres. 91 00:08:50.700 --> 00:08:59.300 Tad Eggleston: Though I will toss out that even though you don't strictly use horror, the bookcase itself is… is… like… 92 00:08:59.920 --> 00:09:01.950 Tad Eggleston: a nod to the Crypt Keeper. 93 00:09:02.410 --> 00:09:07.169 Zack Quaintance: Totally, totally, yeah. I mean, like, I'm gonna have you read the first one, so… 94 00:09:07.700 --> 00:09:10.599 Zack Quaintance: This one, he's much… he's much more Crypt Keeper-y, like, it's… 95 00:09:10.600 --> 00:09:12.100 Tad Eggleston: See? 96 00:09:12.100 -->

00:09:29.449 Zack Quaintance: The first one has more of a horror tone to the framing sequence, especially, and the first short in that one is horror, and then it kind of, like, sets the tone through the rest of it, whereas this one's more of, like… the framing sequence is a superhero. It's an homage to Reign of the Supermen, really. 97 00:09:29.450 --> 00:09:29.800 Tad Eggleston: Right. 98 00:09:29.800 --> 00:09:46.930 Zack Quaintance: So that kind of sets the tone for… and our first story, the main… the Nick Cagnetti one is a superhero story. And I think we just kind of… there's not another superhero story, but we use some of the, tropes of superheroes in the framing sequence, and… 99 00:09:48.460 --> 00:09:58.610 Zack Quaintance: Yeah, that just kind of sets the tone for the book throughout, is we're gonna have some fun with, superhero tropes and structure and adventure comics, so that was the goal. 100 00:09:59.680 --> 00:10:01.369 Tad Eggleston: And I think he's just, without… 101 00:10:01.560 --> 00:10:08.410 Tad Eggleston: realizing it, and I don't think I'd thought of it this way in a while, you just called out the, like. 102 00:10:09.050 --> 00:10:14.579 Tad Eggleston: first… Certainly the first DC, because I'm through and through a Marvel boy. 103 00:10:14.760 --> 00:10:20.280 Tad Eggleston: like… multi-title event. 104 00:10:20.800 --> 00:10:24.970 Tad Eggleston: that I ever followed religiously was Reign of the Superman. 105 00:10:25.390 --> 00:10:28.380 Tad Eggleston: I picked all of those up when they were coming at me. 106 00:10:28.540 --> 00:10:31.010 Zack Quaintance: Yeah, I mean, like, yeah, but the… 107 00:10:31.240 --> 00:10:34.920 Zack Quaintance: We're probably somewhat close in age, if not the same age. 108 00:10:34.920 --> 00:10:35.250 Tad Eggleston: Whatever. 109 00:10:35.850 --> 00:10:41.629 Zack Quaintance: The first event I remember existing, or being aware of, was Death of Superman. Like… 110 00:10:41.750 --> 00:10:44.979 Zack Quaintance: That was the first giant comic book thing. 111 00:10:45.420 --> 00:10:48.799 Tad Eggleston: Yeah, see, the first event that I remember being aware of… 112 00:10:49.000 --> 00:10:55.580 Tad Eggleston: And this story's been told a few times. The very first comic I got to buy at the comic shop 113 00:10:55.710 --> 00:11:03.739 Tad Eggleston: And I had to twist my dad's arm a little bit, because it was 75 cents, and the other ones were, I think, $60 or $40 at the time. 114 00:11:03.740 --> 00:11:04.629 Zack Quaintance: Yeah. Was… 115 00:11:04.630 --> 00:11:06.969 Tad Eggleston: was Secret Wars number one. 116 00:11:07.200 --> 00:11:15.980 Tad Eggleston: Because it had all of the heroes. And when you're 4 years old, all of the heroes means better. 117 00:11:16.700 --> 00:11:21.190 Zack Quaintance: Oh yeah, you wanna see… you wanna see as many as you can, right? 118 00:11:21.190 --> 00:11:32.290 Tad Eggleston: Right, right. It's like, we've got… I mean, I remember, like, pretty distinctly, like, what I remember is I was debating between the… 119 00:11:33.440 --> 00:11:41.380 Tad Eggleston: whichever Spider-Man Marvel team-up I'd picked. And, you know, it was one of those shops where they had, like. 120 00:11:42.460 --> 00:11:55.720 Tad Eggleston: copies of multiple months back, so, you know, I found the team-ups, and I flipped through until I found the one that I liked, and… and… and I had… and I had, World's Finest with Superman and Batman. I had those two in my hand. 121 00:11:56.140 --> 00:11:58.709 Tad Eggleston: I was debating between the two when I… 122 00:11:59.080 --> 00:12:07.279 Tad Eggleston: saw The Secret Wars, and that became the only book I wanted, because it had all of the heroes. 123 00:12:09.760 --> 00:12:20.930 Zack Quaintance: Yeah, that era, like, you were always an issue away from either Spider-Man or Wolverine coming, like, remember? Like, or maybe those were just the comics I was buying as a little kid, because it had two heroes, you know? 124 00:12:21.350 --> 00:12:25.530 Tad Eggleston: Yeah, it took me a while to get into Wolverine and the X-Men. 125 00:12:25.670 --> 00:12:35.179 Tad Eggleston: Though I became aware of them from my Secret Wars, because they were in Secret Wars, but Spidey was totally my guy, and I loved that he had 126 00:12:35.770 --> 00:12:41.639 Tad Eggleston: Team-up, which meant that That there was always a him AND somebody. 127 00:12:41.790 --> 00:12:44.710 Tad Eggleston: Yeah. Because it's always better with more heroes. 128 00:12:45.290 --> 00:12:47.790 Zack Quaintance: As we've established. 129 00:12:47.790 --> 00:12:54.830 Tad Eggleston: Well, it's just… in my head, it's still funny that that's how I was, because my son was such a villain guy. 130 00:12:55.470 --> 00:12:56.090 Zack Quaintance: Oh, no kidding. 131 00:12:56.090 --> 00:13:03.439 Tad Eggleston: His favorite in Star Wars was Darth Vader, he got into Venom, he got… like, my son was such a villain guy, and I. 132 00:13:03.440 --> 00:13:04.090 Zack Quaintance: Yeah. 133 00:13:04.090 --> 00:13:10.440 Tad Eggleston: stood at him, like, dude, but there's… there's Han Solo! Yeah, yeah. 134 00:13:11.260 --> 00:13:13.629 Zack Quaintance: Guys are kind of polar opposites there. 135 00:13:13.780 --> 00:13:14.450 Zack Quaintance: At least. 136 00:13:14.450 --> 00:13:18.110 Tad Eggleston: At least on that. We're alike in a lot of ways, but at least… 137 00:13:18.270 --> 00:13:28.800 Tad Eggleston: in our childhoods, we went the opposite directions in terms of who was cooler. He would have gotten into Secret Wars with the later covers, all the Doctor Doom ones. 138 00:13:29.450 --> 00:13:31.499 Zack Quaintance: Yeah, it had its share of villains as well. 139 00:13:31.710 --> 00:13:32.130 Tad Eggleston: And they do. 140 00:13:32.130 --> 00:13:35.449 Zack Quaintance: No, not short on villains, that comic, yeah, but they come later. 141 00:13:36.070 --> 00:13:43.130 Tad Eggleston: Now, I

should quickly give the shout-out, we did just start reading Secret Wars and Infinite Crisis on the Heroes of Bronze Book Club. 142 00:13:43.180 --> 00:14:02.730 Tad Eggleston: The first episode actually posted today, and it'll be monthly. Anybody listening who likes those books, we are… we are going through them with… with the Heroes of Bronze Book Club on 22 Panels. Every once in a while, I give myself cross-promotion. I forget most of the time. This is where I should say that I have a Patreon if people want to give me money, because I always forget to say that. 143 00:14:05.610 --> 00:14:09.719 Zack Quaintance: Modern life is very challenging. You know, with all these things, you gotta… 144 00:14:10.110 --> 00:14:12.220 Zack Quaintance: Can't just have fun anymore, you know? 145 00:14:13.720 --> 00:14:15.790 Tad Eggleston: That's pretty much what I do. 146 00:14:16.090 --> 00:14:20.069 Tad Eggleston: But, I mean… It'd be helpful to pay for the comics. 147 00:14:20.730 --> 00:14:22.230 Tad Eggleston: Through the Patreon. 148 00:14:22.750 --> 00:14:27.139 Tad Eggleston: I mean, I don't have crazy, crazy thoughts of, like. 149 00:14:27.760 --> 00:14:36.400 Tad Eggleston: Well, I mean, let me rephrase. I totally have crazy thoughts of making a living… a living through comics, I just don't believe them. 150 00:14:36.830 --> 00:14:38.080 Zack Quaintance: Yeah, yeah. 151 00:14:38.310 --> 00:14:41.900 Zack Quaintance: You're… so, yeah, you have a good grip on reality. 152 00:14:42.620 --> 00:14:47.550 Tad Eggleston: If it happens, I won't turn it away, but I'm not quitting my day job. 153 00:14:48.030 --> 00:14:49.280 Zack Quaintance: No, yeah. 154 00:14:50.330 --> 00:14:59.379 Zack Quaintance: I mean, yeah, if there's one thing we've learned in the last 10 years, it's day job is key for a lot of success in comics, like, all different. 155 00:14:59.380 --> 00:15:00.939 Tad Eggleston: Insurance is nice. 156 00:15:00.940 --> 00:15:01.480 Zack Quaintance: Yes. 157 00:15:01.480 --> 00:15:02.960 Tad Eggleston: Health insurance is nice. 158 00:15:03.380 --> 00:15:05.219 Tad Eggleston: I mean, I think this is… 159 00:15:05.220 --> 00:15:05.690 Zack Quaintance: Yeah. 160 00:15:05.690 --> 00:15:19.020 Tad Eggleston: I think this is one of the reasons we're seeing more and more creators either from overseas or emigrating from overseas, because it's, like, easier to choose to take a freelance job when you don't have to worry about health insurance. 161 00:15:20.220 --> 00:15:27.100 Zack Quaintance: I mean, yeah, it's… it's… yeah, it's like… and there's also a stability thing, too, like… 162 00:15:27.500 --> 00:15:33.989 Zack Quaintance: for me, doing… I do, like, one big indie comic a year, right? And I need to plan that, like… 163 00:15:34.200 --> 00:15:50.920 Zack Quaintance: a full year in advance, essentially, like, keep the ball rolling from one to the next. So if I'm, like, putting myself at the mercy of comics, like, in any kind of way, where it's tangled up with my finances, like, suddenly it becomes a lot harder to be able to plan that year in advance, you know what I mean? 164 00:15:50.970 --> 00:15:59.789 Zack Quaintance: So, like, the day job is really the engine that keeps the comics coming, in a very clear sense. Like, it takes time away. I could write a lot more comics. 165 00:16:00.080 --> 00:16:02.910 Zack Quaintance: If I wasn't doing it, but… 166 00:16:03.060 --> 00:16:07.780 Zack Quaintance: To have the stability is key to financing them and keep the production running. 167 00:16:08.430 --> 00:16:09.000 Tad Eggleston: Yeah. 168 00:16:09.310 --> 00:16:13.500 Tad Eggleston: Yeah And yet, we love it anyway and do it. 169 00:16:14.410 --> 00:16:18.850 Zack Quaintance: Yeah, I mean, yeah, and when I'm not working or writing comics, I'm doing comics journalism as well, so… 170 00:16:18.850 --> 00:16:21.970 Tad Eggleston: Right! I mean, this is… 171 00:16:21.970 --> 00:16:22.580 Zack Quaintance: I don't stop. 172 00:16:22.580 --> 00:16:28.060 Tad Eggleston: It is something… it is something interesting about the world of comics that, like, we're all aware. 173 00:16:28.390 --> 00:16:31.660 Tad Eggleston: That, like, the money doesn't make sense. 174 00:16:31.970 --> 00:16:39.119 Zack Quaintance: The people who stick with it, yeah, like, I feel like we don't see this type of person as much anymore, but I, like, when I started doing it, like, I don't know, like, 8… 175 00:16:39.250 --> 00:16:49.600 Zack Quaintance: 7 or 8 years ago, people would show up every few years and be like, I'm gonna start a podcast or a blog, and it's gonna hit big. I'm gonna be, like, the next, 176 00:16:49.730 --> 00:17:01.330 Zack Quaintance: CBR that gets bought for a million dollars or whatever, you know? And I think that's kind of stopped, like, you don't really see… I mean, I think maybe those people are influencers now? Like, they're doing, short videos on… TikTok? 177 00:17:01.490 --> 00:17:02.500 Tad Eggleston: Yeah. Yeah. 178 00:17:02.810 --> 00:17:04.639 Zack Quaintance: There's a ton of that going around. 179 00:17:04.640 --> 00:17:09.909 Tad Eggleston: But there's a career that I never realized would exist when I was a kid. 180 00:17:10.069 --> 00:17:14.919 Zack Quaintance: No, how could you? Like, how could you even conceive of that? It would have been impossible. 181 00:17:14.920 --> 00:17:18.729 Tad Eggleston: I make videos, and people give me money. 182 00:17:20.190 --> 00:17:28.950 Zack Quaintance: Yeah, I don't… I don't get it, myself. I don't like watching influencer videos, I don't… I don't make my own, like, you know. 183 00:17:29.440 --> 00:17:36.250 Tad Eggleston: I mean, I think even most of the short videos I watch probably aren't the ones that people actually get paid for. 184 00:17:36.940 --> 00:17:38.190 Tad Eggleston: Though, so… 185 00:17:38.830 --> 00:17:48.160 Tad Eggleston: though there was, and I haven't watched a ton of them, but I've

seen a couple, there is some, like, old guy whose… whose, like, grandkids helped him 186 00:17:48.340 --> 00:17:56.449 Tad Eggleston: start making videos that's pretty fucking funny, and could be making money at this point, because I know he gets massive 187 00:17:58.560 --> 00:18:00.009 Tad Eggleston: views to… 188 00:18:00.010 --> 00:18:01.130 Zack Quaintance: Yeah, yeah. 189 00:18:01.600 --> 00:18:02.270 Zack Quaintance: Well, there wasn't… 190 00:18:02.270 --> 00:18:05.529 Tad Eggleston: Talk about being old making TikToks! 191 00:18:05.530 --> 00:18:09.800 Zack Quaintance: Yeah, yeah, I think I know what you're talking about. He's like an old guy who does Gen Z stuff. 192 00:18:09.800 --> 00:18:11.600 Tad Eggleston: Right. 193 00:18:13.940 --> 00:18:15.170 Zack Quaintance: But actually. 194 00:18:15.170 --> 00:18:18.210 Tad Eggleston: Ghost of what? With the what? 195 00:18:19.480 --> 00:18:37.630 Zack Quaintance: Part of my angst with, influencer culture is in the book, funny enough. It is. With that… the Nick Cagnetti story, yeah, the… I guess you'd call them villains, they're, like, influencers as zombies, kind of controlled by the needing to get engagement, and sacrifices. 196 00:18:37.630 --> 00:18:48.490 Zack Quaintance: dead mall, which you might… you might have even heard… like, a lot of people have been asking me, like, so what mall inspired this? And it's actually my childhood mall in Bloomingdale, Illinois, Stratford Square. 197 00:18:48.660 --> 00:18:49.450 Tad Eggleston: Isn't it? 198 00:18:49.450 --> 00:18:51.270 Zack Quaintance: Maybe you've heard of, yeah. 199 00:18:51.270 --> 00:18:54.860 Tad Eggleston: I have not only heard of that, that was my childhood mall. 200 00:18:54.860 --> 00:18:56.490 Zack Quaintance: No kidding, was it really? 201 00:18:56.630 --> 00:18:58.869 Tad Eggleston: I grew up in Wheaton, Illinois. 202 00:18:58.950 --> 00:19:02.249 Zack Quaintance: Yeah, I grew up in Glendale Heights, so… 203 00:19:02.250 --> 00:19:05.780 Tad Eggleston: Okay, so yeah, it was essentially right between us. 204 00:19:05.780 --> 00:19:09.630 Zack Quaintance: gone… where you were, you could have gone to St. Charles Mall as well. 205 00:19:09.630 --> 00:19:13.540 Tad Eggleston: Except that St. Charles didn't even open until I was in high school. 206 00:19:13.540 --> 00:19:17.020 Zack Quaintance: Oh, did it really? Oh, yeah, I guess I wasn't aware of that. 207 00:19:17.020 --> 00:19:18.790 Tad Eggleston: Yeah, like, middle school… 208 00:19:18.790 --> 00:19:20.289 Zack Quaintance: aerosol, so it had a… 209 00:19:20.290 --> 00:19:20.900 Tad Eggleston: Yeah, it did. 210 00:19:20.900 --> 00:19:21.989 Zack Quaintance: A thing in it. It did. 211 00:19:21.990 --> 00:19:28.770 Tad Eggleston: But it was a little bit… it was actually a little bit farther away from me, because I literally lived, like, 3 blocks from Gary Avenue. 212 00:19:29.530 --> 00:19:30.569 Zack Quaintance: Yeah, no kidding. 213 00:19:30.570

--> 00:19:32.750 Tad Eggleston: So, I could just shoot up north. 214 00:19:32.960 --> 00:19:35.710 Zack Quaintance: Not to get into this too much, what high school did you go to? 215 00:19:35.710 --> 00:19:37.280 Tad Eggleston: I went to Wheaton North. 216 00:19:37.280 --> 00:19:39.830 Zack Quaintance: Okay, I went to Glenbard West in Glen Ellen, so… 217 00:19:39.830 --> 00:19:40.500 Tad Eggleston: Wow. 218 00:19:40.500 --> 00:19:41.020 Zack Quaintance: Where, yeah. 219 00:19:41.020 --> 00:19:42.799 Tad Eggleston: I knew a bunch of people at Glombard West. 220 00:19:42.800 --> 00:19:45.709 Zack Quaintance: I mean, I think they're bordering ta- like, bordering districts. 221 00:19:45.710 --> 00:19:46.109 Tad Eggleston: they are. 222 00:19:46.110 --> 00:19:48.910 Zack Quaintance: So, like, Whedon and, Glenbard, yeah. 223 00:19:49.160 --> 00:19:58.010 Tad Eggleston: They are. Well, Glenbard almost surrounds Wheaton, because Glenbard North is north of Wheaton North. Glenbard West and East are… 224 00:19:58.590 --> 00:20:04.070 Tad Eggleston: west of… or east of Wheaton North, and Glenbard South is almost in Wheaton. 225 00:20:04.070 --> 00:20:08.040 Zack Quaintance: Yeah, I mean, we had kids at West who lived in Whedon, like, parts of. 226 00:20:08.040 --> 00:20:08.380 Tad Eggleston: Right. 227 00:20:08.380 --> 00:20:13.279 Zack Quaintance: Parts of the district for Glenbard West is in Whedon. Not a lot, but enough, you know. 228 00:20:13.280 --> 00:20:13.930 Tad Eggleston: Yeah. 229 00:20:14.070 --> 00:20:17.150 Tad Eggleston: And I assume you know Lucas was filmed there. 230 00:20:17.150 --> 00:20:19.100 Zack Quaintance: Oh, of course, yeah, that's all anyone… 231 00:20:19.100 --> 00:20:23.359 Tad Eggleston: Everybody at Glenvard West knows that Lucas was filmed there. 232 00:20:23.360 --> 00:20:33.840 Zack Quaintance: things people talk about at West are Lucas was filmed there, and Sean Hayes went to high school there. Like, those are the two… those are the two things you learn on, like, day one in orientation. 233 00:20:33.840 --> 00:20:37.539 Tad Eggleston: Right, right. No, I, I, I, you're the Hilltoppers. 234 00:20:37.540 --> 00:20:45.710 Zack Quaintance: Yeah, I tell people, my high school mascot was the Hilltoppers, and they're like, what? Like, no, the school was on a hill, and they're like, that doesn't explain what a hilltop is. 235 00:20:45.710 --> 00:20:50.360 Tad Eggleston: No, I, I also, in the, the… 236 00:20:51.870 --> 00:21:01.619 Tad Eggleston: God, it would have been the late 2000s, I worked at the Glen Ellen Sunrise, so I had a lot of Glenbard West kids that came and volunteered. 237 00:21:02.200 --> 00:21:08.550 Tad Eggleston: In my dementia department, and we once took… took a bus full of kid… er, a bus full of, 238 00:21:08.690 --> 00:21:11.680 Tad Eggleston: our residents out to a Glenbard West baseball game. 239 00:21:11.930 --> 00:21:13.330 Zack Quaintance: Oh, cool. Yeah. 240 00:21:13.330 --> 00:21:13.890 Tad Eggleston: Yeah. 241 00:21:15.180 --> 00:21:20.270 Zack Quaintance: You know, I went to… did you go to community college by any chance? I went to college at DuPage, also in that area. 242 00:21:20.270 --> 00:21:26.179 Tad Eggleston: I spent some… I spent some time at COD. My son is currently taking classes at COD. 243 00:21:26.510 --> 00:21:31.450 Zack Quaintance: Hey, I'm a COD alumni. I got my associate's degree at COD. Oh, wow! 244 00:21:31.580 --> 00:21:36.130 Tad Eggleston: Wow, see? See, I don't have any degrees, you know, one of these things. 245 00:21:36.130 --> 00:21:37.990 Zack Quaintance: Nobody… Maybe get… 246 00:21:37.990 --> 00:21:39.120 Tad Eggleston: associates. 247 00:21:39.410 --> 00:21:46.099 Zack Quaintance: even most people who go to a community college don't… you don't need to get an associate's when you go to, like, you can just… because I… I transferred to. 248 00:21:46.100 --> 00:21:49.490 Tad Eggleston: Though they're way more valuable than I realized when… 249 00:21:50.010 --> 00:21:55.539 Tad Eggleston: I was there, so, like, in hindsight, I wish that I'd done… 250 00:21:55.870 --> 00:22:03.759 Tad Eggleston: I mean, I spent most of my community college time at Prairie State in Chicago Heights, but in hindsight, like, if I'd done 251 00:22:03.880 --> 00:22:07.790 Tad Eggleston: a couple of classes differently. I could have gotten an associate's degree. 252 00:22:07.910 --> 00:22:13.309 Tad Eggleston: And then, when I didn't finish my four-year college, I would still have that, and it would have been… 253 00:22:13.940 --> 00:22:15.620 Tad Eggleston: Of value, but… 254 00:22:15.630 --> 00:22:17.080 Zack Quaintance: Yeah, that's how I figured. 255 00:22:17.080 --> 00:22:23.999 Tad Eggleston: But that's my public service announcement to any kids listening right now. There is value to having your associates if you're starting. 256 00:22:25.320 --> 00:22:30.110 Zack Quaintance: Yeah, they… Illinois, and this is very specific to kids who live in Illinois, but Illinois. 257 00:22:30.110 --> 00:22:30.640 Tad Eggleston: Yeah, but… 258 00:22:30.640 --> 00:22:35.949 Zack Quaintance: Their state schools has a rule that you have to… if you get your associates, you go in as a junior status, like… 259 00:22:35.950 --> 00:22:36.790 Tad Eggleston: That's true, too. 260 00:22:36.790 --> 00:22:43.100 Zack Quaintance: considered an upperclassman, which gives you some advantage. Like, you don't have to take some of the, core curriculum that way. 261 00:22:43.100 --> 00:22:43.490 Tad Eggleston: Right. 262 00:22:43.490 --> 00:23:00.179 Zack Quaintance: Yeah, I did that. But the crazy… to get back to the mall, when I was on Instagram one day, scrolling and watching Dead Mall's videos, and Stratford Square popped up, and I was like, that's my mall. Like, this is so weird. And then, you know. 263 00:23:00.180 --> 00:23:05.130 Tad Eggleston: There's actually a grocery store where one of the, anchor stores

used to be. 264 00:23:05.130 --> 00:23:11.120 Zack Quaintance: Oh, no, I knew they demolished it. Like, it's been… it's no longer fodder for influencers, it has been raised. 265 00:23:11.120 --> 00:23:11.590 Tad Eggleston: Right. 266 00:23:12.240 --> 00:23:19.049 Tad Eggleston: Oh, I didn't realize it had been raised entirely. I just… I just knew that… that a corner of it had been turned into a woodman's. 267 00:23:19.270 --> 00:23:30.150 Zack Quaintance: Yeah, yeah, I think that might still be standing, and they want to turn it into some kind of, like, multi-use development, like you see, like, that has, like, a little mix of retail and houses and stuff. 268 00:23:30.150 --> 00:23:30.700 Tad Eggleston: Right. 269 00:23:31.010 --> 00:23:38.430 Zack Quaintance: it's a real bummer. I don't know if you experienced this with it. Like, I felt sad for the loss of this mall. Like, I spent a lot. 270 00:23:38.430 --> 00:23:38.800 Tad Eggleston: No, huh. 271 00:23:38.800 --> 00:23:40.330 Zack Quaintance: I'm in that mall as a kid, you know? 272 00:23:40.330 --> 00:23:55.150 Tad Eggleston: Yeah, I mean, I guess it's been long enough since I was down there that I hadn't realized that it had gone that far, particularly because, I mean, literally, the mall that I was thinking about when 273 00:23:55.200 --> 00:24:06.100 Tad Eggleston: I was reading it was Charlestown, because Charlestown became… an absolute… dead mall. 274 00:24:06.450 --> 00:24:07.130 Zack Quaintance: Yeah. 275 00:24:07.390 --> 00:24:09.429 Tad Eggleston: Way earlier than Stratford did. 276 00:24:09.540 --> 00:24:18.779 Tad Eggleston: You know, I feel like I've gone to movies at Stratford In the last… 5 years, maybe? 277 00:24:18.780 --> 00:24:25.610 Zack Quaintance: Yeah, I have too, like, I used to go… when my… my parents still lived in. 278 00:24:25.610 --> 00:24:28.359 Tad Eggleston: Oh, yeah, no, it is recent, 2024. 279 00:24:29.200 --> 00:24:33.349 Tad Eggleston: Demolition finished in… yeah, so that's, like, new new. 280 00:24:33.660 --> 00:24:34.360 Zack Quaintance: Yeah. 281 00:24:34.360 --> 00:24:54.269 Zack Quaintance: It was right… that was… yeah, that's right when I wrote this, because I was kind of going through a thing of morning. Like, I'd seen it… I'd seen all these influencers, like, converge on this mall, where I had a lot of good memories. Like, I would go there to see movies and goof off with my friends, and was still going there in the last 5 years… like you said, 5 years, because I'd go home for Christmas and we'd go see a movie at the mall. There wasn't much else going on in the mall. 282 00:24:54.270 --> 00:24:58.709 Tad Eggleston: Well, now, when you're home for Christmas, you gotta give me a call and we'll go for coffee. I didn't rea… 283 00:24:58.710 --> 00:24:59.120 Zack Quaintance: Yeah. 284 00:24:59.120 --> 00:25:01.400 Tad Eggleston: came up the last time you were on, I didn't realize. 285 00:25:01.400 --> 00:25:05.460 Zack Quaintance: I

think maybe I mentioned I was from Chicago, but I don't think we talked specific… 286 00:25:05.460 --> 00:25:06.700 Tad Eggleston: Right. 287 00:25:06.700 --> 00:25:10.039 Zack Quaintance: Corner of the… the exact same corner of the suburbs, yeah. 288 00:25:10.040 --> 00:25:11.090 Tad Eggleston: Right! 289 00:25:11.090 --> 00:25:14.209 Zack Quaintance: Yeah, my family's in Downers now, so it's a. 290 00:25:14.210 --> 00:25:15.040 Tad Eggleston: Okay. 291 00:25:15.900 --> 00:25:21.179 Tad Eggleston: My first… my first job was at the Downers Grove South Best Buy. 292 00:25:21.480 --> 00:25:22.080 Tad Eggleston: the one… 293 00:25:22.080 --> 00:25:29.579 Zack Quaintance: Oh my, this is crazy! I worked at the Panera that was, like, in the same, it may have opened later than when you worked at that. 294 00:25:29.580 --> 00:25:33.819 Tad Eggleston: I think so, because that was at that Best Buy. On Butterfield, yeah. 295 00:25:33.820 --> 00:25:37.480 Zack Quaintance: I worked at a Panera that was right down from that Best Buy. 296 00:25:37.480 --> 00:25:44.780 Tad Eggleston: 96 and 97, and I then was back again for a little bit in 99. 297 00:25:45.230 --> 00:25:49.080 Zack Quaintance: So we would have just missed each other. I started working there in, like, 2001. 298 00:25:49.080 --> 00:25:50.590 Tad Eggleston: Okay, yeah, yeah. 299 00:25:50.730 --> 00:26:03.440 Zack Quaintance: I just… my story about that Best Buy is one year they were giving out a JC Chavez from NSYNC bobblehead doll. He was huge at the time, in 2001, 2002, for, Black Friday shoppers, which was a huge thing at Best Buy. 300 00:26:03.440 --> 00:26:14.829 Zack Quaintance: And he got mobbed… he tried to go to the Best Buy, because I guess he had family in the area, so he was there in the… those suburbs for Thanksgiving. So he tried to go to Best Buy to get his own bobblehead and got mobbed. 301 00:26:14.830 --> 00:26:17.560 Zack Quaintance: And ran and hid in our Panera. 302 00:26:17.560 --> 00:26:22.800 Tad Eggleston: See, I was at that Best Buy. 303 00:26:23.260 --> 00:26:26.240 Tad Eggleston: when the Nintendo 64 dropped. 304 00:26:28.750 --> 00:26:37.210 Tad Eggleston: there were… 800 people in the parking lot for the, like, 60 of them that we had? 305 00:26:37.620 --> 00:26:38.710 Zack Quaintance: That's crazy. 306 00:26:39.110 --> 00:26:42.319 Tad Eggleston: The very front of the line, with his mom. 307 00:26:42.330 --> 00:27:01.349 Tad Eggleston: who agreed to do it with him because he'd been saving the money forever, and not just save the money for the system, but save the… he'd figured out what he needed for the system, and the games that he wanted, and… and… an extra controller, and he knew he needed an adapter to be able to hook it to his TV, and he'd saved all the money, he'd worked out the tax. 308 00:27:01.390 --> 00:27:05.949 Tad Eggleston: You know, he'd been saving for, like, a year, which is why his mom was willing to… 309 00:27:06.340 --> 00:27:12.999 Tad Eggleston: They'd literally gotten in line at, like… we… we bumped into them leaving the night before. 310 00:27:14.120 --> 00:27:19.679 Tad Eggleston: You know, when we closed the store the night before and went to our cars, they were already waiting. 311 00:27:21.010 --> 00:27:30.570 Tad Eggleston: He came in, he was the first one, he bought it. As he was walking out, he got offered 6 times as much money as he'd paid for it. 312 00:27:31.660 --> 00:27:33.080 Tad Eggleston: In cash. 313 00:27:34.050 --> 00:27:37.569 Tad Eggleston: And he did. And his mom was just in awe, she's like. 314 00:27:37.570 --> 00:27:39.840 Zack Quaintance: Smart kid. 315 00:27:39.840 --> 00:27:50.499 Tad Eggleston: you've been saving for this forever, and he just looked at her, and like, he's like, they're gonna be easy to get in, like, a month, and she just gave me $4,000. I mean. 316 00:27:50.500 --> 00:27:58.000 Zack Quaintance: I, like, to be honest, yeah, I don't know if I would have had that kind of self-control as a kid, like, I would have wanted to play Mario 64 so bad, you know? 317 00:27:58.470 --> 00:28:02.890 Tad Eggleston: And he did! I mean, you saw him waver over it, right? 318 00:28:03.630 --> 00:28:06.810 Tad Eggleston: Like, it was a decision for him. 319 00:28:09.470 --> 00:28:16.389 Zack Quaintance: That's funny, man. You know, another interesting thing about that area is… do you remember the magazine, EGM, Electronic Gaming Monthly? 320 00:28:16.940 --> 00:28:17.790 Tad Eggleston: Vaguely. 321 00:28:18.140 --> 00:28:22.509 Zack Quaintance: Their offices are over there, so they'd come into Panera all the… yeah, yeah, the… 322 00:28:22.510 --> 00:28:23.240 Tad Eggleston: Gotcha. 323 00:28:23.240 --> 00:28:27.829 Zack Quaintance: Ziff Davis Publishing used to be in either Downers or Lombard, right? 324 00:28:27.830 --> 00:28:28.190 Tad Eggleston: Okay. 325 00:28:28.490 --> 00:28:35.100 Zack Quaintance: intersects right there. And so they'd come into Panera, and I'd be, like, starstruck over the guys from EGM being there. 326 00:28:35.100 --> 00:28:35.480 Tad Eggleston: Yeah. 327 00:28:35.480 --> 00:28:38.850 Zack Quaintance: You guys are the review crew, like… That, that, that… 328 00:28:38.850 --> 00:28:48.500 Tad Eggleston: The first time I met… And I pieced it together long, long later. The first time I met Dal. 329 00:28:48.940 --> 00:28:50.060 Tad Eggleston: of, 330 00:28:53.490 --> 00:29:01.159 Tad Eggleston: Challengers Comics and Conversation in Chicago was when he was… he was running the Graham Crackers in Downers Grove. 331 00:29:01.510 --> 00:29:04.539 Zack Quaintance: Oh, no kidding, yeah. So, was that your childhood comic shop? 332 00:29:04.770 --> 00:29:16.560 Tad Eggleston: No, I was there… I went there… my girlfriend, who was at Glenbard South, was playing a softball tournament near there, and it was between games, and I needed something to do, so I went to the comic shop. 333 00:29:16.700 -->

00:29:22.470 Tad Eggleston: I picked up, Grant Morrison and, and Philip Bond's Kill Your Girlfriend. 334 00:29:22.470 --> 00:29:23.600 Zack Quaintance: Nice. 335 00:29:23.780 --> 00:29:28.449 Zack Quaintance: But, my childhood comic shop was Graham Crackers in Glendale Heights. It's not there. 336 00:29:28.450 --> 00:29:28.850 Tad Eggleston: Okay. 337 00:29:29.860 --> 00:29:32.180 Tad Eggleston: Yeah. Graham crackers is still all over. 338 00:29:32.180 --> 00:29:32.900 Zack Quaintance: Right. 339 00:29:32.900 --> 00:29:33.390 Tad Eggleston: But… 340 00:29:33.390 --> 00:29:34.000 Zack Quaintance: Yeah, yeah. 341 00:29:34.000 --> 00:29:34.730 Tad Eggleston: I see. 342 00:29:35.640 --> 00:29:37.090 Zack Quaintance: It was a small location. 343 00:29:37.090 --> 00:29:41.470 Tad Eggleston: Cause that was the one… was that the one that… Cause I… 344 00:29:41.760 --> 00:29:54.390 Tad Eggleston: did they have the store that was on… and this is fa… well, this is actually fascinating for at least half of our regular listeners, because my mom and brother are listening, so… so I don't have to worry as much about it at all. 345 00:29:54.390 --> 00:29:58.019 Zack Quaintance: I think people in comics know about graham crackers, too. You see them at. 346 00:29:58.020 --> 00:29:58.370 Tad Eggleston: Right. 347 00:29:58.370 --> 00:29:59.709 Zack Quaintance: in New York and stuff, you know. 348 00:29:59.710 --> 00:30:05.440 Tad Eggleston: Right, but… but did they have… was the Glendale Heights on… Would have been what? 349 00:30:06.220 --> 00:30:08.650 Tad Eggleston: Army Trail and Bloomingdale? 350 00:30:08.650 --> 00:30:10.009 Zack Quaintance: Roughly? Yeah. 351 00:30:10.010 --> 00:30:10.560 Tad Eggleston: Yeah. 352 00:30:10.560 --> 00:30:12.850 Zack Quaintance: I was on Bloomingdale Road a few blocks. 353 00:30:13.020 --> 00:30:14.790 Zack Quaintance: off of Army Trail, but Army Trail. 354 00:30:14.790 --> 00:30:15.150 Tad Eggleston: Oh, wow. 355 00:30:16.210 --> 00:30:18.279 Zack Quaintance: Yeah. And it moved… it eventually moved… 356 00:30:18.690 --> 00:30:23.629 Zack Quaintance: moved closer to Army Trail, so it was right at that intersection for a while, in the mid. 357 00:30:23.630 --> 00:30:30.479 Tad Eggleston: Because that actually continued being a comic shop for longer after Graham Crackers left. 358 00:30:30.480 --> 00:30:35.749 Zack Quaintance: And there's still a comic shop now at that intersection, I don't know what it's called, I apologize. 359 00:30:35.750 --> 00:30:36.970 Tad Eggleston: I forget what it's called right now. 360 00:30:36.970 --> 00:30:38.430 Zack Quaintance: whoever runs it, yeah, it's not. 361 00:30:38.430 --> 00:30:38.950 Tad Eggleston: No, I like it. 362 00:30:38.950 --> 00:30:39.350 Zack Quaintance: anymore. 363 00:30:39.350 --> 00:30:55.840 Tad Eggleston: I'm certain that I can… because what I do… well, I haven't been to it in a while, but the last time I was at it, what I loved was the number of sets they had. I love the stores that are smart enough to go, oh, I have a complete run of this, let me bundle it. 364 00:30:56.170 --> 00:31:02.710 Zack Quaintance: I was buying sets of, like, old Valiant comics last time I was in there and stuff, like, yeah, they do bundles with their back issues. 365 00:31:02.940 --> 00:31:12.169 Tad Eggleston: I mean, this is where I'll also give a shout-out to Rainbow in Sioux Falls, which is my wife's hometown. 366 00:31:12.560 --> 00:31:23.420 Tad Eggleston: Because they have a ridiculous number of bundles, which is actually something that they have… They have done, 367 00:31:24.630 --> 00:31:27.290 Tad Eggleston: since I started going there, 368 00:31:27.710 --> 00:31:29.429 Tad Eggleston: So they clearly spent some time at… 369 00:31:29.430 --> 00:31:34.610 Zack Quaintance: Cool move, yeah. I love, when people do have back issues, and they also kind of, like… 370 00:31:35.050 --> 00:31:40.410 Zack Quaintance: Not all shops do… some shops will curate. They'll be like, here, this bundle's awesome, and put a little note on it, or whatever, you know? 371 00:31:40.410 --> 00:31:52.529 Tad Eggleston: Yeah, yeah. Well, and the one in Glendale Heights, again, I think it's probably been 5 years since, because I went there the mo… I used to… there's an apartment complex that's on the southeast corner. 372 00:31:52.650 --> 00:31:56.740 Tad Eggleston: of Army Trail and Bloomingdale that I used to have 373 00:31:57.090 --> 00:32:01.010 Tad Eggleston: friends that lived in. So when I did, I'd go to that shop. 374 00:32:01.320 --> 00:32:09.700 Tad Eggleston: semi-regularly. And I've been to it slightly more recently than that, just because it's also close enough to the highway that when I'm going down there. 375 00:32:09.700 --> 00:32:12.889 Zack Quaintance: It is right off the highway, 355, I think, yeah. 376 00:32:12.890 --> 00:32:14.440 Tad Eggleston: Right, 355. 377 00:32:16.600 --> 00:32:21.619 Zack Quaintance: I'm getting homesick, thinking about all these plays, because like I said, my… 378 00:32:21.620 --> 00:32:23.840 Tad Eggleston: Maybe you should come home for Thanksgiving this year. 379 00:32:24.120 --> 00:32:28.699 Zack Quaintance: Yeah, maybe Christmas… yeah, we'll see. I'll let you know if I do, but 380 00:32:28.700 --> 00:32:32.990 Tad Eggleston: Mom, I'm coming home from Thanksgiving so I can go comic shopping with Tad. 381 00:32:32.990 --> 00:32:33.950 Zack Quaintance: Yeah. 382 00:32:33.950 --> 00:32:34.450 Tad Eggleston: bad. 383 00:32:34.450 --> 00:32:42.860 Zack Quaintance: I'm gonna… yeah, I was just like, what are you talking about? But they, yeah, they, like I said, they moved to Downers, so I haven't been to Glendale Heights specifically, or even. 384 00:32:42.860 --> 00:32:43.190 Tad Eggleston: Alright. 385 00:32:43.190 --> 00:32:50.750 Zack Quaintance: Stratford area, and, like, since, pre-pandemic, really. Like, right around the pan… like, 2019 was probably the

last time I was out in that area. 386 00:32:51.550 --> 00:32:57.899 Tad Eggleston: Well, and I live way up north, but my son and grandkids are in Wheaton, so… 387 00:32:58.190 --> 00:33:03.060 Tad Eggleston: I still have good reasons to… to… To go down. 388 00:33:03.060 --> 00:33:08.030 Zack Quaintance: Whedon's a nice little suburb, like, Whedon and Glen Ellen are both very nice little suburbs. 389 00:33:08.030 --> 00:33:13.330 Tad Eggleston: Well, they're nicer still that they're not quite as… 390 00:33:14.020 --> 00:33:19.110 Tad Eggleston: Well, Glen Allen was… was never quite as crazy Christian as Wheaton was when I. 391 00:33:19.110 --> 00:33:19.770 Zack Quaintance: No, no. 392 00:33:19.770 --> 00:33:26.179 Tad Eggleston: But, but, but Wheaton's not… as crazy Christian as it was when I grew up, so… 393 00:33:26.180 --> 00:33:28.039 Zack Quaintance: Yeah, because we'd always have those… 394 00:33:28.040 --> 00:33:33.720 Tad Eggleston: There's actually a Democrat for their representative now. 395 00:33:34.120 --> 00:33:39.069 Zack Quaintance: I heard about that, yeah. But we'd always say these things, like, you know, they don't allow dancing in Whedon. 396 00:33:39.070 --> 00:33:41.020 Tad Eggleston: At Wheaton College. Only at Wheaton College. 397 00:33:43.670 --> 00:33:44.160 Zack Quaintance: Oops. 398 00:33:44.160 --> 00:33:51.320 Tad Eggleston: Somehow, somehow counts Wes Craven and… and, Trent Reznor among the people that have gone there. 399 00:33:51.320 --> 00:33:52.130 Zack Quaintance: I knew that about. 400 00:33:52.130 --> 00:33:59.819 Tad Eggleston: I'm not certain that either one of them graduated from there, but they both attended at one point. 401 00:34:00.700 --> 00:34:03.599 Tad Eggleston: In fact, Elm Street is in Wheaton. 402 00:34:04.570 --> 00:34:06.710 Zack Quaintance: No kidding, I didn't know that! Yeah, that's cool. 403 00:34:06.720 --> 00:34:11.289 Tad Eggleston: I have friends that grew up on Elm Street. You know, you know who grew up on Elm Street? 404 00:34:11.530 --> 00:34:12.330 Zack Quaintance: Who's that? 405 00:34:12.770 --> 00:34:13.980 Tad Eggleston: the Belushis. 406 00:34:14.210 --> 00:34:27.939 Zack Quaintance: Oh, did they really? Yeah, because I… so I… I went to Southern Illinois University for college, and the Belushis both went… supposedly, that's where John Belushi made the college t-shirt that he has in Animal House. Okay. Was that Southern Illinois, yeah. 407 00:34:27.940 --> 00:34:33.469 Tad Eggleston: Yeah, no, one of my best friends went to Southern Illinois and worked at the Saluki. 408 00:34:33.989 --> 00:34:35.569 Tad Eggleston: For his whole time down there. 409 00:34:35.750 --> 00:34:37.080 Tad Eggleston: Yeah. Journalist. 410 00:34:37.690 --> 00:34:44.549 Zack Quaintance: So it was called the… the Saluki was the mascot, the paper was the Daily Egyptian, because the Saluki… Oh, that's right, that's right. Yeah. 411 00:34:44.550 --> 00:34:46.129 Tad Eggleston: That's right, the Daily Egyptian. 412 00:34:46.250 --> 00:34:50.769 Zack Quaintance: I also worked at the Daily Egyptian. I was like, I worked there 3 years when I was an editor there. 413 00:34:50.770 --> 00:34:51.979 Tad Eggleston: When were you? 414 00:34:52.100 --> 00:34:53.460 Zack Quaintance: I was there… 415 00:34:53.460 --> 00:34:57.380 Tad Eggleston: than me, and he's a little older than me. So he probably missed you. 416 00:34:57.580 --> 00:35:02.249 Zack Quaintance: I was there from 2004 to 2007. I graduated in 2007 from college. 417 00:35:02.250 --> 00:35:07.359 Tad Eggleston: Okay. Yeah, so you, I think, graduated almost 10 years after him. 418 00:35:07.670 --> 00:35:08.850 Zack Quaintance: Okay, yeah, so… 419 00:35:08.850 --> 00:35:14.610 Tad Eggleston: Yeah. Though he won awards down there, so if you heard the name Mark Chase ever, that was one of my… 420 00:35:14.830 --> 00:35:15.600 Tad Eggleston: My, my… 421 00:35:15.600 --> 00:35:17.180 Zack Quaintance: When you're in college. 422 00:35:17.180 --> 00:35:18.339 Tad Eggleston: You're a good friend. 423 00:35:18.340 --> 00:35:21.450 Zack Quaintance: 10 years is like a different era of people. 424 00:35:21.450 --> 00:35:32.250 Tad Eggleston: No, that I understand. I just also know that sometimes names wind up on walls, and, like, you don't know who it is, but you saw the thing sitting there. 425 00:35:32.250 --> 00:35:37.310 Zack Quaintance: I'm sure I walked past his awards, they had a bunch of… it was a good journalism school, like, 426 00:35:37.310 --> 00:35:37.680 Tad Eggleston: No. 427 00:35:37.680 --> 00:35:39.050 Zack Quaintance: Bunch of awards, so… 428 00:35:39.050 --> 00:35:41.309 Tad Eggleston: He was also, he was also in, 429 00:35:41.640 --> 00:35:45.489 Tad Eggleston: Because Paul Simon taught there after he retired. 430 00:35:45.490 --> 00:35:48.089 Zack Quaintance: Paul Simon Public Policy Institute is still there. 431 00:35:48.090 --> 00:35:50.759 Tad Eggleston: He was, he was in Paul Simon's first class. 432 00:35:51.590 --> 00:35:55.460 Zack Quaintance: Yeah, Paul Simon was well retired by the time, 433 00:35:55.700 --> 00:35:57.089 Zack Quaintance: Yeah. But we may have had some others. 434 00:35:57.090 --> 00:35:57.930 Tad Eggleston: Teached there for too long. 435 00:35:58.430 --> 00:36:11.109 Zack Quaintance: other faculty in common who are still around, because all these guys would have their whole career at the Trib, and then move… retire in Southern Illinois and be adjunct faculty, and that's why it had such a good journalism program, because… 436 00:36:11.110 --> 00:36:20.000 Tad Eggleston: Right. Well, that, and Halloween gave them… gave you… gave you a great fodder for… for actual… 437 00:36:20.000 --> 00:36:21.220 Zack Quaintance: Violence and depression. 438 00:36:21.220 --> 00:36:23.500 Tad Eggleston: Violence reporting. 439 00:36:23.500 --> 00:36:37.189 Zack Quaintance: When I was there, they had taken a stand, like,

Halloween would get so raucous at Southern Illinois University, they had to start closing the school for that week. So, like, when I was there, we would go home for a week around Halloween. Like, you weren't allowed to be there. 440 00:36:37.300 --> 00:36:37.840 Tad Eggleston: No! 441 00:36:38.710 --> 00:36:49.919 Tad Eggleston: I think that might have actually started when Mark was there, but I also remember the one year where he talked to me soon after Halloween and told me he was no longer a tear gas virgin. 442 00:36:50.300 --> 00:36:56.519 Zack Quaintance: Yeah, I bet. They burned down the ROTC building one year during Halloween. 443 00:36:56.960 --> 00:37:05.309 Tad Eggleston: Well, apparently the fraternities invited all of their brothers from all over the country into town for Halloween, so it wasn't even just the… 444 00:37:05.730 --> 00:37:07.770 Zack Quaintance: Well, that was always the thing, it was people from. 445 00:37:07.770 --> 00:37:08.170 Tad Eggleston: Right. 446 00:37:08.170 --> 00:37:11.069 Zack Quaintance: go to the school would, like, converge on this random. 447 00:37:11.070 --> 00:37:11.500 Tad Eggleston: Nice. 448 00:37:11.500 --> 00:37:16.780 Zack Quaintance: in the middle of southern Illinois to… Wreck havoc for Halloween, yeah. 449 00:37:17.740 --> 00:37:18.660 Tad Eggleston: Yeah? 450 00:37:19.700 --> 00:37:21.420 Tad Eggleston: Now we're completely opted up. 451 00:37:21.420 --> 00:37:22.550 Zack Quaintance: Because I don't even. 452 00:37:22.550 --> 00:37:25.049 Tad Eggleston: I think there's been a comic made out of the Halloween. 453 00:37:25.050 --> 00:37:28.579 Zack Quaintance: I could… I'm getting ideas, though. I'd love to do the… 454 00:37:28.580 --> 00:37:33.129 Tad Eggleston: I think there could be a great comic made out of the Halloweens itself. 455 00:37:33.130 --> 00:37:39.979 Zack Quaintance: I mean, yeah, the history of Halloween at Southern Illinois would be a good crime comic, quite honestly. You could do, like, a… 456 00:37:39.980 --> 00:37:41.629 Tad Eggleston: Or a horror comic, either. 457 00:37:41.630 --> 00:37:43.140 Zack Quaintance: War, horror, yeah, yeah. 458 00:37:43.800 --> 00:37:49.380 Zack Quaintance: Crime-horror hybrid would be a fun genre mashup, definitely. 459 00:37:49.780 --> 00:37:50.290 Zack Quaintance: So… 460 00:37:51.570 --> 00:37:52.209 Tad Eggleston: It's really funny. 461 00:37:52.210 --> 00:38:00.579 Zack Quaintance: like, to kind of get us back on track a little bit. Do you know who Mike Gold is? He's like an editor, old editor, retired editor for DC. 462 00:38:00.580 --> 00:38:02.479 Tad Eggleston: I know I've heard the name. 463 00:38:02.480 --> 00:38:04.680 Zack Quaintance: Mike Grell's Green Arrow and stuff. 464 00:38:05.900 --> 00:38:13.460 Zack Quaintance: And he's got a YouTube show that he does now with a friend of mine, Bob Harrison, called The Squadcast, the Pop Culture Squadcast. 465 00:38:14.040 --> 00:38:18.930 Zack Quaintance: So, he had me on to promote Death of Comics Bookcase Volume 1, 466 00:38:19.000 --> 00:38:37.790 Zack Quaintance: And we had this exact same thing happen, where we discovered we were both from Chicago, and both went to Southern Illinois University. So, like, this is now two consecutive volumes of Death Comics Bookcase, where I've discovered, with someone, who had… was nice enough to read the book and have me on their show, that we have a ton in common. So it's like, there's a little. 467 00:38:37.790 --> 00:38:39.029 Tad Eggleston: You know? 468 00:38:39.030 --> 00:38:39.649 Zack Quaintance: to this comment. 469 00:38:39.650 --> 00:38:46.190 Tad Eggleston: And that… that still makes it just slightly less than the weirdest thing that's happened on 470 00:38:46.190 --> 00:39:01.749 Tad Eggleston: 22 Panels, because when I was talking to Dylan Gilbertson for the first time for… for his Kickstarter for My Neighbor Necrodancer, the fourth issue, by the way, is also on Kickstarter now, so once you… Yeah, we're running. Once you've… once you've backed Zack, backed Dylan… 471 00:39:01.750 --> 00:39:03.270 Zack Quaintance: Zack is both, yeah. 472 00:39:03.270 --> 00:39:17.040 Tad Eggleston: Yes, because they're both fantastic books. Dylan's actually now a regular on our Heavy Metal Book Club, but the reason for that is, while I was talking to him, is when I figured out that he 473 00:39:18.380 --> 00:39:25.249 Tad Eggleston: Went to the same college at the same time, in the same dorm, and was very good friends with my youngest brother. 474 00:39:25.770 --> 00:39:26.879 Zack Quaintance: Oh, no kidding. 475 00:39:27.090 --> 00:39:30.400 Tad Eggleston: Who I texted and crashed the podcast in the middle. 476 00:39:30.970 --> 00:39:33.880 Zack Quaintance: So they were actual friends, like, they… 477 00:39:33.880 --> 00:39:39.940 Tad Eggleston: They were actually already friends, but Dylan didn't know this when he reached out to me to… 478 00:39:39.940 --> 00:39:40.840 Zack Quaintance: Yeah, yeah. 479 00:39:40.840 --> 00:39:47.510 Tad Eggleston: And it wasn't like Peter had told Dylan, hey, my brother's got a comics podcast, you should ask. 480 00:39:47.510 --> 00:39:50.229 Zack Quaintance: Yeah, your last name's not that common, you know. 481 00:39:50.230 --> 00:39:53.980 Tad Eggleston: It's not! It's not! But I, you know, I mean… 482 00:39:54.330 --> 00:39:58.279 Tad Eggleston: I don't… because he had reached out to me, I'm not certain that he… 483 00:39:58.400 --> 00:40:04.039 Tad Eggleston: He might have known… he would have known my last name from, like, The invitation, but he… 484 00:40:04.040 --> 00:40:04.640 Zack Quaintance: Yeah, yeah. 485 00:40:04.640 --> 00:40:07.540 Tad Eggleston: I went to 22 Panels, so it might not have actually… 486 00:40:07.740 --> 00:40:09.399 Tad Eggleston: That's a good point. They collect. 487 00:40:09.400 --> 00:40:14.419 Zack Quaintance: Yeah, until I'm on the screen with you, I, like, I don't think

about your life, like, I just think of you as Tad. 488 00:40:14.420 --> 00:40:15.010 Tad Eggleston: Right. 489 00:40:15.010 --> 00:40:15.940 Zack Quaintance: Right! 490 00:40:15.940 --> 00:40:16.670 Tad Eggleston: Yeah. 491 00:40:16.670 --> 00:40:17.420 Zack Quaintance: I don't… I don't… 492 00:40:17.580 --> 00:40:22.849 Tad Eggleston: Because I kind of deliberately don't… use my last name? 493 00:40:22.850 --> 00:40:26.269 Zack Quaintance: Yeah, you're, like, 22 panels also on a lot of stuff, you know. 494 00:40:26.270 --> 00:40:30.370 Tad Eggleston: Right, just because I work… In a public school. 495 00:40:30.480 --> 00:40:38.600 Tad Eggleston: And, yeah, my students know, or a lot of my students know about the podcast, some of them listen, that sort of thing, but because of that, I just… 496 00:40:41.000 --> 00:40:43.589 Tad Eggleston: I don't want to be, like, anonymous. 497 00:40:43.820 --> 00:40:50.980 Tad Eggleston: like, I don't… I don't have it set up so it's not easy to draw the strings, but I don't, like, want to broadcast who I am enough. 498 00:40:50.980 --> 00:40:57.449 Zack Quaintance: You don't want to lead with your last name, like, because there's people out there who call you Mr. Eagle Eggleston, right? 499 00:40:57.450 --> 00:40:58.850 Tad Eggleston: Generally, Mr. E. 500 00:40:58.990 --> 00:40:59.910 Zack Quaintance: mystery. 501 00:40:59.940 --> 00:41:00.960 Tad Eggleston: But… but yeah. 502 00:41:01.600 --> 00:41:02.880 Tad Eggleston: That's cool. 503 00:41:03.810 --> 00:41:10.839 Tad Eggleston: But yeah, so, so… But yeah, no, that, that, that's, that, that's the, the, the only, like. 504 00:41:11.170 --> 00:41:17.360 Tad Eggleston: weirder confluence than this one, where it's like, wait a minute, Stratford Square? Yes, I know Stratford Square. 505 00:41:17.360 --> 00:41:19.210 Zack Quaintance: Yeah. That same… 506 00:41:19.210 --> 00:41:25.969 Tad Eggleston: brother, I took to the sneak preview of Men in Black at Stratford Square. 507 00:41:25.970 --> 00:41:27.420 Zack Quaintance: In the 90s, even. 508 00:41:27.420 --> 00:41:29.679 Tad Eggleston: Two weeks before it came out. 509 00:41:29.680 --> 00:41:43.689 Zack Quaintance: We used, like, I sent Nick reference photos from Stratford, but they were all… so Stratford got renovated in the late 90s. Yep. Yeah, and looked totally different, so we used that, the most recent version of it, where it had, like, 510 00:41:43.690 --> 00:41:50.719 Zack Quaintance: a big fountain, it was like a geyser that shot up in the air. But yeah, he… that whole mall in that book was drawn from Stratford Square. 511 00:41:50.720 --> 00:41:51.760 Tad Eggleston: I, I, I used… 512 00:41:51.760 --> 00:41:53.340 Zack Quaintance: I've seen it on those videos. 513 00:41:53.760 --> 00:41:55.610 Tad Eggleston: I used to, 514 00:41:56.910 --> 00:42:01.489 Tad Eggleston: Actually, some of my favorite burgers. I'm trying to remember the name of the burger place in the… 515 00:42:02.140 --> 00:42:07.500 Tad Eggleston: Food Court. There's a burger place in the food court that had particularly thin burgers. 516 00:42:08.050 --> 00:42:11.240 Tad Eggleston: That were just really good, and I can't remember right now. 517 00:42:11.670 --> 00:42:12.510 Zack Quaintance: I don't remember. 518 00:42:13.030 --> 00:42:16.290 Tad Eggleston: But I don't remember it being many other places, yeah. 519 00:42:17.550 --> 00:42:24.329 Tad Eggleston: And, and that KB Toys was one of my, my Star Wars toy hookups. 520 00:42:24.840 --> 00:42:28.719 Zack Quaintance: Yeah, there was a Toys R Us over there back in the day, too, not in the mall, but across the street. 521 00:42:28.720 --> 00:42:37.809 Tad Eggleston: Not in the mall, across the street, which made it even easier, because, like, when I was going out Star Wars toy hunting, hit the Toys R Us, hit the KB… 522 00:42:39.500 --> 00:42:43.400 Zack Quaintance: Back in the day, The, remastered movies, probably, when they had the… 523 00:42:43.400 --> 00:42:44.310 Tad Eggleston: Yeah, that… 524 00:42:44.310 --> 00:42:44.880 Zack Quaintance: It's wrong. 525 00:42:44.880 --> 00:42:52.089 Tad Eggleston: What was the I'm trying to remember the name of the pizza place that was in the… the… the… 526 00:42:52.230 --> 00:42:57.329 Tad Eggleston: Not the strip with the Toys R Us, but the strip with the Best Buy and the movie theater. There was a pizza place right there. 527 00:42:57.330 --> 00:42:58.399 Zack Quaintance: Waldi's, man. 528 00:42:58.400 --> 00:42:59.390 Tad Eggleston: Garibaldi's. 529 00:42:59.390 --> 00:43:01.260 Zack Quaintance: I miss that place. 530 00:43:01.260 --> 00:43:03.290 Tad Eggleston: All these is so good. 531 00:43:03.290 --> 00:43:07.450 Zack Quaintance: There's still one… there's still one somewhere in the Chicagoland area, I forget, I think. 532 00:43:07.450 --> 00:43:08.400 Tad Eggleston: There's at least one. 533 00:43:08.400 --> 00:43:09.880 Zack Quaintance: Or something, yeah. 534 00:43:10.400 --> 00:43:13.699 Tad Eggleston: I mean, there actually used to be one up closer to me, too. 535 00:43:13.700 --> 00:43:15.779 Zack Quaintance: There used to be a bunch, but I think they're down to just. 536 00:43:15.780 --> 00:43:16.160 Tad Eggleston: Alright. 537 00:43:16.160 --> 00:43:18.039 Zack Quaintance: Original location, yeah. 538 00:43:19.000 --> 00:43:21.550 Zack Quaintance: Because it's a crazy place, it's, like, decked out, like. 539 00:43:21.550 --> 00:43:31.919 Tad Eggleston: No, no, there's still an Arlington Heights one, too, so the one close to me is still around. Hoffman Estates and Arlington Heights. So now we know where we're eating when you. 540 00:43:31.920 --> 00:43:34.220 Zack Quaintance: Yeah, I'm down for that. 541 00:43:34.220 --> 00:43:35.070 Tad Eggleston: Nicked it. 542 00:43:35.070 --> 00:43:38.329 Zack Quaintance: Pilgrimage for Garibaldi's, for sure, so… 543 00:43:40.790 --> 00:43:44.850 Tad Eggleston: I'll

introduce you to the comic shop that I do work with out in Algonquin. 544 00:43:45.350 --> 00:43:48.070 Tad Eggleston: Shout out to Modern Age Comics. 545 00:43:48.480 --> 00:43:52.129 Zack Quaintance: Cool. Yeah, I'm always up for that. There's some good comic shops in Chicago. I mean, in Chicago. 546 00:43:52.130 --> 00:43:52.940 Tad Eggleston: There's so many. 547 00:43:52.940 --> 00:43:54.349 Zack Quaintance: Amazing comic shops. 548 00:43:54.350 --> 00:43:58.159 Tad Eggleston: There's so many good comic shops in the Chicagoland area. 549 00:43:59.300 --> 00:44:04.340 Zack Quaintance: I think it's why there's, like, a disproportionate number of creators from the Chicagoland area, like… 550 00:44:04.340 --> 00:44:05.400 Tad Eggleston: Probably. 551 00:44:05.400 --> 00:44:09.690 Zack Quaintance: Because the comic shop ecosystem there has been so healthy since we were kids. 552 00:44:10.380 --> 00:44:15.960 Tad Eggleston: I mean, pro- the- I mean, everywhere I travel, I look for the comic shops, like… 553 00:44:16.240 --> 00:44:16.880 Zack Quaintance: Yeah. 554 00:44:16.880 --> 00:44:17.689 Tad Eggleston: It's a nice thing. 555 00:44:17.690 --> 00:44:19.929 Zack Quaintance: A nice thing to do while you're on the road, you know? 556 00:44:19.930 --> 00:44:24.160 Tad Eggleston: And I think the only place I've been where I think the scene 557 00:44:24.870 --> 00:44:30.929 Tad Eggleston: even compares to Chicago as New York, and it would be seriously sad if it didn't, because it. 558 00:44:30.930 --> 00:44:31.510 Zack Quaintance: It's so busy. 559 00:44:31.510 --> 00:44:36.509 Tad Eggleston: center of comics for so long, and it's so big, and, you know… 560 00:44:37.940 --> 00:44:43.899 Tad Eggleston: something very depressing if New York's comic scene wasn't really good. Yeah, yeah. 561 00:44:44.580 --> 00:44:52.850 Tad Eggleston: But then it's Chicago, and I haven't been out to Portland yet, so Portland's probably third, but you know who my sleeper favorite is? 562 00:44:52.850 --> 00:44:54.210 Zack Quaintance: Who's that? 563 00:44:54.210 --> 00:44:55.620 Tad Eggleston: Minneapolis. 564 00:44:55.620 --> 00:44:58.049 Zack Quaintance: Oh, no kidding, I've never gone to comic shops there. 565 00:44:58.240 --> 00:45:04.870 Tad Eggleston: Oh, my God. Actually, do you know Josh Johnson from The Daily Show? 566 00:45:04.870 --> 00:45:08.899 Zack Quaintance: I saw that go… yeah, that's kind of gone viral in our comic circles, is like… 567 00:45:09.160 --> 00:45:09.870 Tad Eggleston: He's been put… 568 00:45:09.870 --> 00:45:11.059 Zack Quaintance: stores he's doing. 569 00:45:11.060 --> 00:45:22.300 Tad Eggleston: everywhere he goes. And when he was in Minneapolis, he… I mean, A, there's a lot of good comic shops in Minneapolis. There are a couple of good comics publishers in Minneapolis. Living the Line and Uncivilized are both out of Minneapolis. 570 00:45:22.300 --> 00:45:24.160 Zack Quaintance: Uncivilized is awesome, yeah.

571 00:45:24.160 --> 00:45:26.379 Tad Eggleston: Oh, I love Tom. Tom's amazing. 572 00:45:26.380 --> 00:45:26.710 Zack Quaintance: Yeah. 573 00:45:28.270 --> 00:45:34.290 Tad Eggleston: I had coffee with him the last time I was in Minneapolis. Tom and I sat down for coffee. 574 00:45:34.290 --> 00:45:43.780 Zack Quaintance: That's awesome. Yeah, they've… they make… I read everything they put out, basically. Like, they don't put out a lot of comics, but… but when they do, I read it. Like, I make a point and I read it, so… 575 00:45:43.780 --> 00:45:44.550 Tad Eggleston: Yeah, yeah. 576 00:45:45.340 --> 00:45:47.250 Tad Eggleston: But he went to… to… 577 00:45:47.470 --> 00:45:54.150 Tad Eggleston: Comic College, formerly known as College of Comic Book Knowledge, which is even cooler of a name, but, like. 578 00:45:54.150 --> 00:45:55.180 Zack Quaintance: Yeah. 579 00:45:55.180 --> 00:46:03.450 Tad Eggleston: It doesn't come out of the mouth as easily. And probably the sixth or 7th location it's been in since I've known of their existence, and it looks like 580 00:46:04.110 --> 00:46:10.360 Tad Eggleston: It's bigger again, so I need to make certain I hit it the next time I go into town, but it's where I finally tracked down 581 00:46:10.480 --> 00:46:16.120 Tad Eggleston: Frank Miller's… Frank Miller and Bill Sienkiewicz's Daredevil Love and War. 582 00:46:16.640 --> 00:46:31.080 Tad Eggleston: after, like, a year and a half of looking for it, it was the last Daredevil thing that I didn't own in, like, 2000. So, like, pre… so, like, when the internet was in its infancy, and, like, you couldn't just Google things and find them. 583 00:46:31.080 --> 00:46:31.740 Zack Quaintance: Yeah, yeah. 584 00:46:34.240 --> 00:46:35.490 Tad Eggleston: Yeah, you couldn't just… 585 00:46:35.490 --> 00:46:41.359 Zack Quaintance: Yeah, now you can… if you're looking for anything, you can find it online, it's just a matter of, are you okay with the price, you know? 586 00:46:41.360 --> 00:46:55.349 Tad Eggleston: Well, but, I mean, then it was, I mean, like, because I had found it online once in that era, and it was, like, $100. Whereas I finally found it there, and really, I didn't find it there. The shop I worked in… 587 00:46:55.540 --> 00:47:02.100 Tad Eggleston: in Wheaton. I don't know if you ever went to JC Comics, or whether they had closed by the time you might have been anywhere. 588 00:47:02.100 --> 00:47:03.540 Zack Quaintance: No, I think there was a Graham. 589 00:47:03.540 --> 00:47:04.100 Tad Eggleston: posting… 590 00:47:04.100 --> 00:47:05.580 Zack Quaintance: meet-in that I had been to. 591 00:47:05.580 --> 00:47:11.280 Tad Eggleston: That would have been… that would have been down on… on… On, Bloomingdale. 592 00:47:11.430 --> 00:47:15.920 Tad Eggleston: JC was actually right by the Wheaton Movie theater on… 593 00:47:16.830 --> 00:47:18.589 Zack Quaintance: In downtown Whedon? 594 00:47:18.590 --> 00:47:20.239 Tad Eggleston: Yeah. Yeah, yeah. 595 00:47:20.240 --> 00:47:23.749 Zack Quaintance: I remember that theater. They did dollar movies there. 596 00:47:23.750 --> 00:47:25.280 Tad Eggleston: They did. They did. 597 00:47:28.330 --> 00:47:41.640 Tad Eggleston: But one of our regulars had been one of the original co-owners, so when he found out I was gonna be up there on a business trip, he's like, oh, you gotta stop in, say hi to Ralph, you're looking for this, ask him if he's got it, he'll know. 598 00:47:41.730 --> 00:47:56.620 Tad Eggleston: And I asked him, and he's like… he looked at his inventory and it wasn't in there, but he turned to one of his guys, he's like, weren't you going through a Miller phase last year? Do you know if we've got any of these? He's like, yeah, I think there's a stack of, like, 10 of them downstairs. They go downstairs. 599 00:47:56.620 --> 00:47:57.510 Zack Quaintance: Hell yeah. 600 00:47:57.510 --> 00:48:00.419 Tad Eggleston: I got one, and they sold it to me for cover price. 601 00:48:00.420 --> 00:48:01.290 Zack Quaintance: Oh, amazing. 602 00:48:01.290 --> 00:48:08.519 Tad Eggleston: And I'm like, I haven't found one of these online for less than $100, are you sure you want to sell it to me for $6? He's like, yeah. 603 00:48:10.080 --> 00:48:14.529 Zack Quaintance: Very kind of them, that's awesome, because they knew you wanted it, like, it was more. 604 00:48:14.530 --> 00:48:17.199 Tad Eggleston: Exactly! I mean, the only… the only… 605 00:48:17.200 --> 00:48:18.320 Zack Quaintance: service they're providing. 606 00:48:18.320 --> 00:48:22.729 Tad Eggleston: remotely similar experience was actually at JHU a few years ago. 607 00:48:23.090 --> 00:48:27.880 Tad Eggleston: when I was on my ill-advised comic shop tour, And… 608 00:48:28.330 --> 00:48:37.830 Tad Eggleston: I'd already grabbed most of the Love & Rocket stuff that they had, and I was commenting about how I really like the old original hardcover graphic novels. 609 00:48:37.990 --> 00:48:38.670 Zack Quaintance: Yeah, yeah. 610 00:48:38.670 --> 00:48:43.749 Tad Eggleston: And… and both of the owners were there, and one of them turned to the other, and he's like, don't we have a box of those in the back? 611 00:48:44.500 --> 00:48:52.179 Tad Eggleston: And they went back, and they bring the short box, and it had, like, Volumes 2 through 16. 612 00:48:52.690 --> 00:48:53.350 Zack Quaintance: Amazing. 613 00:48:53.350 --> 00:48:54.200 Tad Eggleston: original Love & Rock 614 00:48:54.520 --> 00:48:59.359 Tad Eggleston: covers. Not only did they, they sold them to me at 20% off of cover price. 615 00:48:59.360 --> 00:49:00.639 Zack Quaintance: It's awesome. Yeah, cause those. 616 00:49:00.640 --> 00:49:15.460 Tad Eggleston: I'm like, and I'm like, you know some of these you can get… he's like, no, but we've… he's like, no, we've literally been waiting… we've been holding this box for you. I'm like, it's like, for somebody like you, you know,

when we… More important. This was here still. 617 00:49:15.890 --> 00:49:16.520 Zack Quaintance: I'm making a few. 618 00:49:16.520 --> 00:49:18.739 Tad Eggleston: Go to someone where it was… 619 00:49:20.360 --> 00:49:22.150 Zack Quaintance: Yeah, yeah, it was meant to have a good home. 620 00:49:22.150 --> 00:49:22.830 Tad Eggleston: loved. 621 00:49:24.880 --> 00:49:28.969 Tad Eggleston: But I'm like, that's just awesome. That's the way I'd run a comic shop. 622 00:49:29.380 --> 00:49:33.959 Zack Quaintance: Yeah. For, I mean, for the passion, nobody's running a comic shop to get rich rich, you know. 623 00:49:36.060 --> 00:49:39.390 Tad Eggleston: I mean… Every once in a while, they get lucky. 624 00:49:40.600 --> 00:49:47.239 Tad Eggleston: I've heard that the reason Ides has their 3-story building in Pittsburgh is they sold an amazing Fantasy XV and bought a building. 625 00:49:48.020 --> 00:49:59.550 Zack Quaintance: Oh, no kidding. There was a… so I lived in Sacramento, California for a while, and there was a guy there who had a comic book store, he was a former player with the San Francisco 49ers. 626 00:49:59.760 --> 00:50:06.969 Zack Quaintance: And he had a very valuable back issue business going, like, that when they set up a, 627 00:50:07.230 --> 00:50:20.899 Zack Quaintance: comics exhibit at the Crocker Museum in Sacramento, like, his stuff went on loan there, like, at the museum, because it was so… it was, like, everything, basically. Like, so he… like, he… the comics he owned were… 628 00:50:21.550 --> 00:50:33.179 Zack Quaintance: if you had them, you'd be rich. Like, just having the stomach collection, you know. So there's a few of them out there, and, like, so they would set up… they ended up setting up, like, a collector's show in Berkeley. I don't know if they still do it, but it was for, like. 629 00:50:33.180 --> 00:50:43.170 Zack Quaintance: high rollers, essentially, you know, who are doing these kind of comics that cost, like, a life… a life-changing amount of money to buy. 630 00:50:43.170 --> 00:50:52.070 Tad Eggleston: Kind of what that… did you see… did you see the announcement for that… that… that artist thing at the… is it the Biltmore in LA? 631 00:50:52.070 --> 00:50:53.710 Zack Quaintance: I did see that, yeah, yeah. 632 00:50:53.710 --> 00:50:59.540 Tad Eggleston: I mean, that looks super cool, but it does feel like the High Rollers art show. 633 00:50:59.540 --> 00:51:03.719 Zack Quaintance: So, yeah, they do some of… they have… they had one… they had that… They do that. 634 00:51:03.720 --> 00:51:04.330 Tad Eggleston: I got one in… 635 00:51:04.330 --> 00:51:05.790 Zack Quaintance: As well, 636 00:51:05.790 --> 00:51:08.679 Tad Eggleston: And I think they've got one in Orlando as well. 637 00:51:09.470 --> 00:51:15.970 Zack Quaintance: Yeah. The one in New York here was more European, so they had, like, I think Chris Ware was there, and they had a bunch of, 638 00:51:15.970 --> 00:51:17.660 Tad Eggleston: Another Chicago guy. 639 00:51:18.030 --> 00:51:19.200 Zack Quaintance: Yeah, yeah. 640 00:51:19.330 --> 00:51:20.950 Zack Quaintance: And they had a bunch of. 641 00:51:20.950 --> 00:51:23.420 Tad Eggleston: I haven't met him yet, but I hear he's a Chicago guy. 642 00:51:23.830 --> 00:51:28.069 Zack Quaintance: He's definitely… I think he lives in… I don't know if he still lives there. 643 00:51:28.140 --> 00:51:33.180 Tad Eggleston: No, I think he does, because I'm pretty certain his wife teaches Still. 644 00:51:33.870 --> 00:51:38.859 Tad Eggleston: around, like, like, not only pretty certain, like, I am… 645 00:51:38.970 --> 00:51:43.130 Tad Eggleston: If I recall correctly, I had a guest that was her student teacher. 646 00:51:43.130 --> 00:51:43.880 Zack Quaintance: Yeah. 647 00:51:44.060 --> 00:51:44.900 Tad Eggleston: In the last 5 years. 648 00:51:44.900 --> 00:51:56.060 Zack Quaintance: Maybe he grew up in Nebraska or something then, and then now lives in Chicago, because I knew he had a Nebraska connection as well. But yeah, I mean, the Chicago comics community is amazing. Like, Eddie Campbell lives there, for crying out loud. 649 00:51:56.060 --> 00:51:56.890 Tad Eggleston: I know it! 650 00:51:57.510 --> 00:51:58.809 Zack Quaintance: Freakin' amazing, you know? 651 00:51:58.810 --> 00:52:02.280 Tad Eggleston: I won't quite call Eddie a friend, but we're friendly. 652 00:52:02.990 --> 00:52:04.119 Zack Quaintance: Yeah, I saw… 653 00:52:04.120 --> 00:52:09.840 Tad Eggleston: my name now, mostly because I share it with his favorite old-time boxing cartoonist. 654 00:52:10.040 --> 00:52:14.279 Zack Quaintance: Hey, at least he remembers you. One way or another. 655 00:52:14.280 --> 00:52:17.340 Tad Eggleston: And, yeah, Chris was born in Omaha. 656 00:52:17.710 --> 00:52:22.130 Zack Quaintance: Okay, yeah, so I knew he had that, some Nebraska connection, so he must have… 657 00:52:22.130 --> 00:52:22.700 Tad Eggleston: Man. 658 00:52:22.700 --> 00:52:26.310 Zack Quaintance: grown up in Nebraska and moved to Chicago. 659 00:52:26.450 --> 00:52:32.229 Tad Eggleston: Yeah, we got, we got Landis Blair, we got Tim Seeley, we got Jim Terry, we got John Friesen. 660 00:52:32.610 --> 00:52:34.330 Tad Eggleston: Daniel Warren Johnson. 661 00:52:34.330 --> 00:52:36.020 Zack Quaintance: It's nuts, the list is huge. 662 00:52:36.020 --> 00:52:44.239 Tad Eggleston: If you have an extensive list, you should give it to me, because I don't know enough of the list, and I now try to book 663 00:52:44.430 --> 00:52:48.630 Tad Eggleston: people for a comic shop in the suburbs, so the more I know, the better. 664 00:52:48.630 --> 00:52:49.480 Zack Quaintance: I've never said… 665 00:52:49.480 --> 00:52:51.349 Tad Eggleston: I gotta compare notes one of these days. 666 00:52:51.350 --> 00:52:54.209 Zack Quaintance: Mike Maurici lives there, for sure. 667 00:52:54.210 --> 00:52:54.650 Tad Eggleston:

Yeah. 668 00:52:54.650 --> 00:52:56.739 Zack Quaintance: Yeah, there's a lot. The list goes on and on. 669 00:52:57.250 --> 00:52:59.530 Tad Eggleston: Somebody needs to put together… 670 00:52:59.530 --> 00:53:01.999 Zack Quaintance: C2E2s and see who tabled there, like, 10 years. 671 00:53:02.000 --> 00:53:02.530 Tad Eggleston: Oh, yeah. 672 00:53:02.530 --> 00:53:04.559 Zack Quaintance: Blowing up, you know, and that's how you figure it all out. 673 00:53:05.690 --> 00:53:11.490 Tad Eggleston: But somebody should put together the comic creator directory. 674 00:53:11.490 --> 00:53:12.420 Zack Quaintance: Market, yeah. 675 00:53:12.620 --> 00:53:21.859 Tad Eggleston: Who lives in what market? Ideally, with a contact info, but even if you don't have that, just the who lives in what market would be such a big deal. 676 00:53:22.160 --> 00:53:28.109 Zack Quaintance: But yeah, as someone who tries to hire cover artists from time to time, contact info is not always out there. 677 00:53:28.110 --> 00:53:29.530 Tad Eggleston: No, it's sometimes… 678 00:53:29.900 --> 00:53:30.350 Tad Eggleston: I mean. 679 00:53:30.350 --> 00:53:32.659 Zack Quaintance: Well, you know from booking cats with them, I'm sure. 680 00:53:32.660 --> 00:53:33.280 Tad Eggleston: Yeah. 681 00:53:33.520 --> 00:53:34.860 Tad Eggleston: You know, I mean… 682 00:53:34.860 --> 00:53:38.800 Zack Quaintance: People have contact forms on their websites, but they don't always respond to those, you know. 683 00:53:38.800 --> 00:53:43.379 Tad Eggleston: Yeah, I'm surprised at how easy most people are to get ahold of. 684 00:53:43.610 --> 00:53:46.130 Tad Eggleston: And how hard the others are. 685 00:53:46.310 --> 00:53:47.220 Zack Quaintance: It does go… 686 00:53:47.220 --> 00:53:48.399 Tad Eggleston: There's really almost nothing in. 687 00:53:48.400 --> 00:54:03.700 Zack Quaintance: Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's, like, you can Google Brian Bendis' email and send him an email right now, and he'll probably read it or write back. Like, it's not hard to send Brian Bendis an email. But then there's other creators who are, like, fiercely 688 00:54:03.800 --> 00:54:07.910 Zack Quaintance: guard it, guard it with their privacy, you know? Like, there's no way to contact them. 689 00:54:08.280 --> 00:54:08.800 Zack Quaintance: You're right. 690 00:54:08.800 --> 00:54:13.309 Tad Eggleston: But then I wind up being surprised by some, because, like… 691 00:54:14.080 --> 00:54:21.870 Tad Eggleston: you know, some of my guests, and I'm not… I'm not gonna start naming names, because it just seems weird to do it that way, but there are some of my guests that when I reach 692 00:54:21.990 --> 00:54:25.899 Tad Eggleston: I actually challenged myself to do, like, the pie in the sky… 693 00:54:26.130 --> 00:54:28.210 Tad Eggleston: Email every once in a while. 694 00:54:28.500 --> 00:54:29.660 Zack Quaintance: Sure, yeah. 695 00:54:29.990 --> 00:54:30.750 Tad Eggleston: you know… 696 00:54:30.750 --> 00:54:31.120 Zack Quaintance: Were you talking. 697 00:54:31.120 --> 00:54:32.379 Tad Eggleston: And the number of those… 698 00:54:32.380 --> 00:54:34.050 Zack Quaintance: That's a… that's a… 699 00:54:34.050 --> 00:54:44.279 Tad Eggleston: So that, I wound up working through Publicis, so that's a little less surprising, right? I didn't manage to find Garth Ennis, you know, because he's got an Ahoy book, because… 700 00:54:44.280 --> 00:54:44.810 Zack Quaintance: Yeah, yeah. 701 00:54:44.810 --> 00:54:47.260 Tad Eggleston: does Superfan Promotions does… 702 00:54:47.870 --> 00:54:56.469 Tad Eggleston: stuff for… for Ahoy when they sent out the last email blast with… I said, hey, I know this is a long shot, but… 703 00:54:56.590 --> 00:55:00.550 Tad Eggleston: But are Garth and Jason doing the podcast routes? 704 00:55:00.550 --> 00:55:05.659 Zack Quaintance: I mean, all they can tell you is not right now, and sometimes they'll tell you yes. 705 00:55:05.660 --> 00:55:09.350 Tad Eggleston: That's what they told me when I made my pitch for Tom Morello. 706 00:55:09.860 --> 00:55:12.739 Tad Eggleston: And I made a strong pitch for Tom Morello, because he's from Liberty. 707 00:55:12.740 --> 00:55:14.210 Zack Quaintance: Chicago guy, yeah. 708 00:55:14.210 --> 00:55:16.620 Tad Eggleston: from Libertyville. 709 00:55:19.330 --> 00:55:19.950 Zack Quaintance: But those… 710 00:55:19.950 --> 00:55:20.380 Tad Eggleston: But, 711 00:55:20.380 --> 00:55:23.460 Zack Quaintance: Non-comics people who dabble in comics are harder to, 712 00:55:23.460 --> 00:55:23.910 Tad Eggleston: They are. 713 00:55:23.910 --> 00:55:26.510 Zack Quaintance: Nailed down for publicity, they don't always want to do it. 714 00:55:26.950 --> 00:55:34.460 Tad Eggleston: I mean, every once in a while, I pull it off, but… and that's my biggest thing, is most of the time, when I go after those people. 715 00:55:34.750 --> 00:55:39.519 Tad Eggleston: I'm not pitching them for publicity. I say, do you feel like talking comics? 716 00:55:39.920 --> 00:55:41.209 Zack Quaintance: Yeah, yeah, yeah. 717 00:55:41.430 --> 00:55:42.100 Tad Eggleston: It'll be… 718 00:55:42.100 --> 00:55:42.690 Zack Quaintance: Why not? 719 00:55:42.690 --> 00:55:45.630 Tad Eggleston: I'd love to talk comics. 720 00:55:46.120 --> 00:55:47.950 Tad Eggleston: If not, that's cool. 721 00:55:48.930 --> 00:55:52.099 Tad Eggleston: I'm just happy when I get responses from some of them. 722 00:55:52.100 --> 00:55:52.870 Zack Quaintance: Yeah. 723 00:55:53.120 --> 00:55:54.850 Tad Eggleston: I got a response for… 724 00:55:54.970 --> 00:56:09.300 Tad Eggleston: I got… I got a resp… and, like, this is one where… where I had to send the email to management, but I got a response from the management of somebody that I fully expected… expected sending out the email, that there was no chance 725 00:56:10.310 --> 00:56:20.030 Tad Eggleston: that either he was gonna be on the

show, or I was gonna grade a response at all. That it was gonna be one of those things that I sent in the ether, and it never came back. And I got a very polite 726 00:56:21.510 --> 00:56:22.520 Tad Eggleston: No. 727 00:56:22.800 --> 00:56:30.849 Tad Eggleston: But, like, immediately. Not immediately, but, like, by the next day, and I'm like, that actually feels kind of good. That's validating, the fact that they felt like… 728 00:56:31.220 --> 00:56:37.039 Tad Eggleston: it was worth… thanking me for having interest. 729 00:56:37.040 --> 00:56:37.760 Zack Quaintance: Totally. 730 00:56:37.760 --> 00:56:39.360 Tad Eggleston: You know, as… 731 00:56:39.360 --> 00:56:45.619 Zack Quaintance: As both a creator and a journalist, to me, a rejection is a million times better than a ghosting. 732 00:56:46.010 --> 00:56:59.339 Zack Quaintance: I would rather… I would rather you tell me no within the hour, be like, hey, this isn't gonna work, than never respond. Like, it just feels like, total, like, lack of respect to, like, not even get the, rejection emails as a… as someone who does… 733 00:56:59.340 --> 00:56:59.780 Tad Eggleston: Which is… 734 00:56:59.780 --> 00:57:01.010 Zack Quaintance: or journalism? 735 00:57:01.470 --> 00:57:08.950 Tad Eggleston: Right, which is where I do try to remind myself that most of the people that I don't get any response to probably get so many. 736 00:57:08.950 --> 00:57:09.380 Zack Quaintance: Yeah. 737 00:57:10.110 --> 00:57:12.010 Zack Quaintance: It's a numbers thing, yeah. 738 00:57:12.010 --> 00:57:16.939 Tad Eggleston: Right. And also why I try to send out enough 739 00:57:17.490 --> 00:57:21.580 Tad Eggleston: that I just, like, once it's sent out, I don't think about it until I get a response. 740 00:57:22.000 --> 00:57:22.540 Zack Quaintance: Yeah. 741 00:57:22.540 --> 00:57:29.550 Tad Eggleston: Like, if I tried really hard, I could probably give you a list of people that I've written emails to, and not… But there's no way you remember all of them. 742 00:57:29.550 --> 00:57:30.420 Zack Quaintance: But… 743 00:57:30.420 --> 00:57:48.040 Tad Eggleston: But I don't really think about it. It's more like… it'll only cross my mind if something pops up that makes me think about writing them again, and then I'll go, well, should I? Because I did write them once before, and I never heard back, I don't want to be an annoyance. You know? 744 00:57:48.720 --> 00:57:49.560 Zack Quaintance: Yeah, I get that. 745 00:57:49.560 --> 00:57:50.230 Tad Eggleston: Awesome. 746 00:57:50.600 --> 00:57:54.040 Zack Quaintance: You're not sitting around being like, why didn't they write back? 747 00:57:55.250 --> 00:58:00.130 Tad Eggleston: I mean, I think I would have been like that during the first year, which is why I feel. 748 00:58:00.130 --> 00:58:01.590 Zack Quaintance: Yeah, totally. 749 00:58:01.590 --> 00:58:04.049 Tad Eggleston: Really blessed with how many people 750 00:58:05.050 --> 00:58:08.450

Tad Eggleston: like, it's another story that I've told a few times, but like… 751 00:58:09.660 --> 00:58:17.620 Tad Eggleston: one of the things that I've used this podcast for is that, like, I've long had a difficulty 752 00:58:17.760 --> 00:58:22.889 Tad Eggleston: Reaching out to people I don't know, and asking them for things. And, like… 753 00:58:22.890 --> 00:58:28.879 Zack Quaintance: I get that. That might be an effect of where we're from. 754 00:58:28.880 --> 00:58:29.710 Tad Eggleston: That's possible. 755 00:58:29.790 --> 00:58:48.520 Zack Quaintance: The two things I don't want to do ever is ask people for anything, anything. Like, I don't want to feel like an imposition, and then I also… I'm also really bad at promoting myself to them, to be like, hey, I'm so great because blah blah blah, you know? And they kind of go hand in hand, because when… a lot of times when you're asking them for something, you kind of need to make a case. 756 00:58:48.520 --> 00:58:52.939 Zack Quaintance: for why they should work with you, or why they should talk to you, you know? But yeah. 757 00:58:52.940 --> 00:58:57.149 Tad Eggleston: Or why they should give you a little bit more time on your student loan, or… 758 00:58:57.300 --> 00:58:58.660 Zack Quaintance: Yeah, yeah, whatever. 759 00:58:58.660 --> 00:59:01.859 Tad Eggleston: Because I can't even do it for the things that I, like, need need. 760 00:59:01.860 --> 00:59:02.620 Zack Quaintance: But… 761 00:59:02.620 --> 00:59:15.860 Tad Eggleston: But there's not a great way to, like, practice it. And I suddenly realized that this podcast was a way to practice it. So, like, initially, it's like, okay, I'm gonna send out 5 emails a day just to practice, and I'll try really hard not to care if they get back to me, blah blah blah. 762 00:59:15.860 --> 00:59:18.540 Zack Quaintance: And it's amazing who says yes, right? Like, that's the… 763 00:59:18.540 --> 00:59:36.200 Tad Eggleston: Well, and that's… you send out 10 emails and comics, and 9 of them are gonna respond, and 8 of them are gonna say yes, and then you've got way too… That's how comics works. Then you've got way too many podcasts. That's how you get 900-some-odd episodes in less than 5 years. 764 00:59:36.200 --> 00:59:39.180 Zack Quaintance: You gotta be good at scheduling. 765 00:59:39.510 --> 00:59:42.379 Tad Eggleston: I embraced Google Calendar. 766 00:59:42.380 --> 00:59:45.220 Zack Quaintance: There you go. You gotta have some system, you know. 767 00:59:50.860 --> 00:59:55.229 Tad Eggleston: I feel like we should bring it back to comics, and I feel like I should get you talking more. I'm babbling way too much. 768 00:59:55.230 --> 01:00:02.769 Zack Quaintance: Yeah, I'll tell you, I had to do the email thing to get the cover artist for this book. That's a… that's a good topic, so we have, 769 01:00:03.040 --> 01:00:06.070 Zack Quaintance: covers by Jesse Lonergan, who, won… 770 01:00:06.070 --> 01:00:07.400 Tad Eggleston: Love Jesse. 771 01:00:07.400 --> 01:00:14.240 Zack Quaintance: Yeah, won every Comics Award this summer. He won the Eisner, he won the Ignott's for his book, Drone, probably Win a Ring. 772 01:00:14.240 --> 01:00:14.890 Tad Eggleston: Yep. 773 01:00:15.100 --> 01:00:17.369 Zack Quaintance: Yeah, so I know Jen… 774 01:00:17.370 --> 01:00:21.150 Tad Eggleston: You and I… you and I agree on that being the… the… 775 01:00:21.730 --> 01:00:24.939 Tad Eggleston: The best graphic novel of last year. 776 01:00:25.500 --> 01:00:29.290 Zack Quaintance: Yeah, I might even call it the best of the 2020s so far for me. 777 01:00:29.290 --> 01:00:29.909 Tad Eggleston: Well, I haven't. 778 01:00:29.910 --> 01:00:31.350 Zack Quaintance: Work that out, but it's. 779 01:00:31.350 --> 01:00:40.509 Tad Eggleston: It probably is for me, too, but I will also say, it was my best graphic novel of 2023, as well, when it only. 780 01:00:40.510 --> 01:00:42.169 Zack Quaintance: Yeah, when he finished it on the… 781 01:00:42.170 --> 01:00:48.879 Tad Eggleston: Patreon. Patreon. I literally named it my best graphic novel, even though it hadn't found a publisher yet. 782 01:00:49.360 --> 01:01:01.070 Zack Quaintance: It's been on a journey, man. Like, he did it piecemeal on his Patreon, slowly, and then… no publisher for a while, and then it got put out by 23rd Street, which was kind of in 2025, 783 01:01:01.160 --> 01:01:10.419 Zack Quaintance: And they're kind of new to the book market graphic novel publishing, so there was a while you could maybe find it in bookstores or online, but not at a lot of comic book stores. 784 01:01:10.420 --> 01:01:12.269 Tad Eggleston: There's still not a lot of comic stores. 785 01:01:12.540 --> 01:01:14.870 Zack Quaintance: It's gotta… Not more now, because of the. 786 01:01:14.870 --> 01:01:15.630 Tad Eggleston: It has. 787 01:01:15.630 --> 01:01:16.390 Zack Quaintance: Yeah. 788 01:01:16.390 --> 01:01:20.540 Tad Eggleston: But it's not available through either Lunar or… 789 01:01:20.540 --> 01:01:21.870 Zack Quaintance: That's the whole problem, is… 790 01:01:21.870 --> 01:01:27.140 Tad Eggleston: You have to order first, second, which is the parent. 791 01:01:27.140 --> 01:01:27.520 Zack Quaintance: Yes. 792 01:01:27.520 --> 01:01:30.029 Tad Eggleston: for… is all through McMillan. 793 01:01:30.200 --> 01:01:31.340 Zack Quaintance: Macmillan, yeah. 794 01:01:31.490 --> 01:01:32.000 Tad Eggleston: Yeah. 795 01:01:32.000 --> 01:01:37.319 Zack Quaintance: And you have… they have, like, different requirements sort of, but… but, yeah, so… I… 796 01:01:37.470 --> 01:01:53.769 Zack Quaintance: I've known Jesse for a while, just seen him at shows and stuff, and I'd always been one of my favorite cartoonists, and so I thought, why not… and he's the nicest guy in the world, so I thought, why not ask him if he'll do a cover for this? Not only did he want to do a cover, but he did the whole cast. Yeah, I have, 797

01:01:54.770 --> 01:01:57.650 Zack Quaintance: One of those guys right here. 798 01:02:00.110 --> 01:02:02.329 Zack Quaintance: We have Jesse Lenergan stickers, yeah. 799 01:02:02.330 --> 01:02:05.060 Tad Eggleston: And that was before he started writing the comic with them. 800 01:02:05.800 --> 01:02:06.279 Zack Quaintance: Yeah, yeah. 801 01:02:06.280 --> 01:02:08.429 Tad Eggleston: Pick them up, it's C2E2. 802 01:02:09.120 --> 01:02:16.590 Tad Eggleston: I picked him up at C2E2, I think, when he was promoting was before Jerome. 803 01:02:17.270 --> 01:02:20.550 Tad Eggleston: It was after Ghosts of Science passed. 804 01:02:21.930 --> 01:02:26.179 Tad Eggleston: And I think he'd maybe just done his first thing with Mignola? 805 01:02:26.980 --> 01:02:29.540 Zack Quaintance: Oh yeah, the Miss Truesdale books that he's doing. 806 01:02:29.540 --> 01:02:30.040 Tad Eggleston: Right. 807 01:02:30.040 --> 01:02:30.679 Zack Quaintance: We'll know. 808 01:02:31.430 --> 01:02:32.110 Tad Eggleston: Yeah. 809 01:02:33.060 --> 01:02:37.060 Tad Eggleston: And I think he had… was it Speed? Is that the name of his racing book? 810 01:02:37.910 --> 01:02:41.409 Zack Quaintance: I have it over here, it is faster, yeah. 811 01:02:41.410 --> 01:02:51.359 Tad Eggleston: Faster, faster. And that's one of the things I love about Jesse, he's, like, the only person I know who manages to work at every level of all the time. 812 01:02:51.910 --> 01:02:57.779 Zack Quaintance: I mean, yeah, he doesn't… he doesn't… he just does what he thinks is cool, like, he doesn't… 813 01:02:57.780 --> 01:02:58.140 Tad Eggleston: Right. 814 01:02:58.140 --> 01:03:11.320 Zack Quaintance: no sense of hierarchy or business, long-term planning. If he thinks something's cool, he's gonna do it. That's why I asked him to do a cover for this, because I knew we'd been kind of friendly. And I was like, oh, maybe he'll say yes. He totally said yes. 815 01:03:11.570 --> 01:03:24.989 Zack Quaintance: Did every character in the book that I wanted on it, he put it on… on there. Right. Including I had to ask him at one point to draw a character named Shark Twain, and he wrote back, sure, Shark Twain is a star. 816 01:03:27.630 --> 01:03:29.890 Zack Quaintance: But yeah, that cover is amazing, that he. 817 01:03:29.890 --> 01:03:30.379 Tad Eggleston: He did the whole. 818 01:03:30.380 --> 01:03:33.119 Zack Quaintance: Yeah, so then he has the bookcase popping out of it, like, the. 819 01:03:33.120 --> 01:03:34.000 Tad Eggleston: Yes, he does. 820 01:03:34.000 --> 01:03:35.109 Zack Quaintance: like, bookcase present. 821 01:03:35.110 --> 01:03:49.889 Tad Eggleston: That's such a cool cover. And you had… you have one of my other favorite artists, Felhound, doing a cover. Yeah. Which I told you that, like, I'm gonna wind up buying… I haven't backed your project yet, because I'm… I'm trying to, like… 822 01:03:50.230 --> 01:04:06.820 Tad Eggleston: decide how much money I'm gonna

allow myself to spend, and I know that if I… if I get anything non-digital at all, I'm gonna feel like I need to get both of those covers, so I'll get two covers without even getting the original. 823 01:04:08.790 --> 01:04:13.540 Zack Quaintance: I'll probably send you the all of them if you back it, so don't worry, don't sweat that, man. 824 01:04:14.570 --> 01:04:16.070 Zack Quaintance: We're pals, you know. 825 01:04:16.070 --> 01:04:20.150 Tad Eggleston: And don't get me wrong, the original? Also cool. I don't wanna, like… Yeah. 826 01:04:21.010 --> 01:04:23.999 Zack Quaintance: There's no wrong answer to the covers here. 827 01:04:24.000 --> 01:04:27.629 Tad Eggleston: But… but Felhound and Jesse Lonergan are… 828 01:04:28.190 --> 01:04:32.280 Tad Eggleston: Both on my shortlist of favorite artists right now. 829 01:04:32.540 --> 01:04:35.519 Zack Quaintance: Elhound's awesome. Like, there's kind of. 830 01:04:35.520 --> 01:04:37.929 Tad Eggleston: Did you read Sir? I assume you read Sir. 831 01:04:37.930 --> 01:04:41.509 Zack Quaintance: Yeah, yeah. And Commander Rao, originally. 832 01:04:41.510 --> 01:04:42.630 Tad Eggleston: Yeah, oh, yeah. 833 01:04:42.630 --> 01:04:57.950 Zack Quaintance: We actually did our first Kickstarters at the same time, the same month, in August 2020, and we did, like, cross-promo and helped each other get funded and stuff, and since then, I'd always been a huge fan and wanted to see if Felhound would do something for one of my books, and… 834 01:04:58.480 --> 01:05:03.270 Zack Quaintance: it worked out, and we have this awesome cover of our fantasy character, Gold Mask, so… 835 01:05:03.270 --> 01:05:07.020 Tad Eggleston: Yeah, yeah, no, it felt like… 836 01:05:07.630 --> 01:05:16.000 Tad Eggleston: Sir, I've said it so many times, is the motorcycle jousting book that you never knew you wanted, and whose art is… 837 01:05:17.370 --> 01:05:22.370 Tad Eggleston: Like, her storytelling ability is just… next level. 838 01:05:22.510 --> 01:05:22.980 Zack Quaintance: Yeah. 839 01:05:22.980 --> 01:05:23.500 Tad Eggleston: Yeah. 840 01:05:23.680 --> 01:05:25.060 Zack Quaintance: Truly, yeah. 841 01:05:26.330 --> 01:05:27.610 Tad Eggleston: And, like. 842 01:05:27.610 --> 01:05:30.409 Zack Quaintance: Motorcycle jousting's not an easy thing to take on visually. 843 01:05:30.410 --> 01:05:31.300 Tad Eggleston: No! 844 01:05:31.300 --> 01:05:32.960 Zack Quaintance: pretty gutsy… 845 01:05:33.180 --> 01:05:37.790 Zack Quaintance: thing to want to draw for 6 issues… 5 or 6 issues, I can't remember how long I ran. 846 01:05:37.790 --> 01:05:39.310 Tad Eggleston: I have issues, but still. 847 01:05:40.230 --> 01:05:41.539 Zack Quaintance: A lot of motorcycles. 848 01:05:41.940 --> 01:05:50.389 Tad Eggleston: All of the covers had the same theme, but you had to actually really be paying attention to realize it, because that's how good she is. 849 01:05:50.390 --> 01:05:51.659 Zack Quaintance: So good, yeah. 850 01:05:53.560 --> 01:05:55.539 Tad Eggleston: Yeah, no, no. Ugh. 851 01:05:55.910 --> 01:05:57.500 Tad Eggleston: I've gushed over that book. 852 01:05:58.120 --> 01:05:59.040 Tad Eggleston: A lot. 853 01:05:59.340 --> 01:06:00.240 Tad Eggleston: Those were… 854 01:06:00.240 --> 01:06:02.840 Zack Quaintance: Mills, I had to… I had to do the, 855 01:06:03.500 --> 01:06:09.709 Zack Quaintance: reach out and cross your fingers thing, and I was definitely waiting on… anxiously for responses on those. 856 01:06:09.710 --> 01:06:10.070 Tad Eggleston: Yeah. 857 01:06:10.070 --> 01:06:27.310 Zack Quaintance: You know, so… but thankfully it worked out, and I love… I absolutely love all the… all the covers, to the point, like, I'm not a big fan of hand selling at cons, like, just because I'm not a salesman, a very good salesman, of like, hey, let me tell you about why you should buy this, like, for the reasons we were talking about earlier. 858 01:06:27.310 --> 01:06:27.720 Tad Eggleston: Right. 859 01:06:27.720 --> 01:06:32.430 Zack Quaintance: weight to table with these covers, because they are going to sell themselves. 860 01:06:32.430 --> 01:06:45.789 Tad Eggleston: And have me come by your table, at least when I'm at the con, because, like, ask Zack Kaplan, anytime I hang out with a friend at a table, I sell their books at the same time. 861 01:06:46.100 --> 01:06:47.320 Zack Quaintance: That's awesome, yeah, no doubt. 862 01:06:47.320 --> 01:06:52.079 Tad Eggleston: He just laughs his ass off as I start handing books to people. 863 01:06:52.080 --> 01:06:52.830 Zack Quaintance: Gotta buy this. 864 01:06:52.830 --> 01:06:56.149 Tad Eggleston: Oh, this looks cool, you should buy this one! 865 01:06:56.680 --> 01:06:59.380 Zack Quaintance: Yeah, yeah, you're gonna need to take this, too, you know? 866 01:07:01.270 --> 01:07:05.970 Zack Quaintance: Yeah, that's always helpful to have a, like, an actual testimonial going on. 867 01:07:05.970 --> 01:07:08.800 Tad Eggleston: I'm much better at selling other people's books 868 01:07:08.950 --> 01:07:11.420 Tad Eggleston: Than myself in any way, shape, or form. 869 01:07:11.880 --> 01:07:15.920 Zack Quaintance: Yeah. So, yeah, hand-selling your own books, some people are really good at it, but, like, I'm never. 870 01:07:15.920 --> 01:07:16.250 Tad Eggleston: Yeah. 871 01:07:16.250 --> 01:07:25.089 Zack Quaintance: I've never been great at sales, so it's, I'll be like, hey, I'll tell you about it, but if you want to buy it, that's your decision. Like, I'm not gonna. 872 01:07:25.090 --> 01:07:34.650 Tad Eggleston: And I'll actually only tell you about it if you start the conversation, and I'm gonna have my head down until you come and say, did you write this? 873 01:07:34.950 --> 01:07:41.759 Zack Quaintance: The most salesman… the most salesman-y thing I do at these shows is I stand the whole time, so I'm standing there to be approachable. 874 01:07:41.760 -->

01:07:42.270 Tad Eggleston: Oh, okay. 875 01:07:42.270 --> 01:07:59.059 Zack Quaintance: And then, if someone makes eye contact or slows down, I say, hey, can I tell you about my comic? And sometimes they'll be like, that's alright, I'm just looking. And other times they'll be like, sure, and then you have to do your little pitch, but I always politely ask first, can I tell you about my comic? Because I've tabled next to these guys who have, like. 876 01:07:59.300 --> 01:08:03.910 Zack Quaintance: some, like, really obnoxious kind of carnival bark going on, you know? And, like, I'm 877 01:08:04.330 --> 01:08:07.270 Zack Quaintance: I'd rather not sell any comics than do that. 878 01:08:07.590 --> 01:08:16.599 Zack Quaintance: It's not fun for anybody. It's not fun for the people getting it… well, I don't know. Actually, some people do respond to that positively, like, they laugh at the carnival barking things, and like… 879 01:08:16.609 --> 01:08:20.639 Tad Eggleston: If they're entertaining, It breaks the monotony. 880 01:08:20.930 --> 01:08:21.430 Zack Quaintance: Yeah. 881 01:08:21.430 --> 01:08:23.020 Tad Eggleston: So I think, really, when it comes… 882 01:08:23.029 --> 01:08:26.019 Zack Quaintance: next to them, you have to hear it a hundred times. Oh, yeah. 883 01:08:26.029 --> 01:08:30.319 Tad Eggleston: Yeah, yeah, no, no, tabling next to them, it might be a whole other ballgame. 884 01:08:30.720 --> 01:08:31.430 Zack Quaintance: Yeah, yeah. 885 01:08:31.870 --> 01:08:37.950 Zack Quaintance: No, but yeah, some people… they do put a smile on people's face when they're really good at it, and they have a good line, you know. 886 01:08:38.069 --> 01:08:40.369 Tad Eggleston: But, but, but yeah, no, I mean… 887 01:08:41.119 --> 01:08:50.629 Tad Eggleston: Because, go figure, a lot of us in, like, the whole stigma of the anti-social comic book guy came from somewhere. 888 01:08:50.629 --> 01:08:53.100 Zack Quaintance: Yeah, it's not totally off-base, but… 889 01:08:53.240 --> 01:08:58.679 Zack Quaintance: It's also, like, a thing where, like, if you're really good at sales, or you're doing something that makes sense. 890 01:08:58.810 --> 01:09:06.660 Zack Quaintance: financially, or whatever, you're not in comics, like, you're doing something else. You're like, you're selling stock, you know? Like, so, like. 891 01:09:06.660 --> 01:09:09.300 Tad Eggleston: Cars! You're selling cars! You're selling… 892 01:09:09.300 --> 01:09:13.859 Zack Quaintance: Yeah, you're doing something a little more rational. Rational and glamorous. 893 01:09:14.000 --> 01:09:19.809 Zack Quaintance: So you're getting these sales pitches from people who are inherently Not well-suited to sales, 894 01:09:20.020 --> 01:09:27.209 Zack Quaintance: I always think the funniest one I ever encountered was, friends of mine were tabling next to this guy who was selling a print. 895 01:09:27.470 --> 01:09:31.570 Zack Quaintance: I think his background was in video games, and he was selling a print. It was a… 896 01:09:31.680 --> 01:09:50.669 Zack Quaintance: like, a pizza… a slice of pizza who he had kind of, like, sexualized a little bit to be, like, a sexy slice of pizza. It looks horrific. It's like… it looks like a nightmare. But he just spent the whole con going, she's a saucy girl, buy my print, and, like, that's the… that is the most… 897 01:09:50.670 --> 01:09:51.490 Tad Eggleston: That was his… 898 01:09:51.490 --> 01:09:51.830 Zack Quaintance: Good. 899 01:09:51.830 --> 01:09:52.490 Tad Eggleston: pitch. 900 01:09:52.490 --> 01:09:58.120 Zack Quaintance: Yeah, she's a saucy girl, by my print, like, all weekend long. 901 01:09:58.120 --> 01:09:59.460 Tad Eggleston: My head hurts. 902 01:09:59.710 --> 01:10:00.030 Zack Quaintance: Yeah. 903 01:10:00.030 --> 01:10:01.990 Tad Eggleston: Thinking about that, my head hurts. 904 01:10:02.300 --> 01:10:07.019 Zack Quaintance: Yeah, yeah. So that's the, like, in my opinion, the floor for worst content. 905 01:10:07.020 --> 01:10:12.059 Tad Eggleston: Did he have a mustache that would have fit in an adult film in the 70s? 906 01:10:12.060 --> 01:10:21.230 Zack Quaintance: you know, he was… it's weird, like, he was a video game guy who, like, made totally legit video games, but was like, I don't… I always tell my friends, I feel like you guys were on a hidden camera show. 907 01:10:21.230 --> 01:10:22.110 Tad Eggleston: This was so funny. 908 01:10:22.110 --> 01:10:31.019 Zack Quaintance: like, setup, that this was not a real person, because it just doesn't make sense, you know? Why he would spend his weekend trying to sell these 909 01:10:31.310 --> 01:10:34.399 Zack Quaintance: Sexy pizza print things, you know. 910 01:10:34.630 --> 01:10:43.379 Zack Quaintance: Very strange. But hey, that's… one of the things you get when you table is no shortage of stories from the weekend, so… Yeah. 911 01:10:45.870 --> 01:10:46.700 Tad Eggleston: Well… 912 01:10:46.900 --> 01:10:55.329 Tad Eggleston: you are one of the handful of people out there who probably reads as many new comics as I do, because that's what you… 913 01:10:55.480 --> 01:10:57.800 Tad Eggleston: Write about every week for the beat. 914 01:10:57.940 --> 01:11:00.060 Tad Eggleston: Yeah, that's my thing, I really… Why don't we talk… 915 01:11:00.170 --> 01:11:02.540 Zack Quaintance: 20-plus new comics a week. 916 01:11:02.540 --> 01:11:07.629 Tad Eggleston: Yeah, so why don't we talk some about what we've been loving lately. 917 01:11:07.890 --> 01:11:10.660 Zack Quaintance: Yeah, let me get my… I have a spreadsheet, actually, to help me. 918 01:11:10.660 --> 01:11:14.299 Tad Eggleston: You have a spreadsheet. I want you to share this spreadsheet. 919 01:11:14.790 --> 01:11:18.159 Zack Quaintance: Yeah, I'll show you. Here, it's color-coded, too, by the way. 920 01:11:18.160 --> 01:11:18.890 Tad Eggleston: That's even better. 921 01:11:19.370 --> 01:11:20.420 Zack

Quaintance: I can't really… 922 01:11:20.420 --> 01:11:21.930 Tad Eggleston: start one, but I haven't yet. 923 01:11:22.770 --> 01:11:28.660 Zack Quaintance: Let me find a week where I read… yeah, okay, so here you go. I don't know if you're gonna be able to see it super well. 924 01:11:28.660 --> 01:11:30.000 Tad Eggleston: Okay, okay. 925 01:11:30.000 --> 01:11:37.770 Zack Quaintance: So the yellow ones are the ones I read, the red ones are the ones I'm going to read at some point down the line, and then I rank my top 5 on the side there. 926 01:11:37.980 --> 01:11:38.580 Tad Eggleston: Okay. 927 01:11:38.960 --> 01:11:43.150 Zack Quaintance: The most purple one is my favorite, and then down, and then the yellow ones are… 928 01:11:43.260 --> 01:11:51.680 Zack Quaintance: like, kind of, like, also receiving votes kind of things. I do that every week. I read 20-some comics, and I pick my 5 favorites from my column on the beat. 929 01:11:52.290 --> 01:11:54.419 Zack Quaintance: What have I been loving? 930 01:11:54.640 --> 01:11:57.430 Zack Quaintance: Minor Arcana? Are you reading Minor Arcana? 931 01:11:57.430 --> 01:11:57.970 Tad Eggleston: Oh, yeah. 932 01:11:58.200 --> 01:11:58.970 Zack Quaintance: Yeah. 933 01:11:58.970 --> 01:11:59.650 Tad Eggleston: Oh, yeah. 934 01:11:59.650 --> 01:12:04.390 Zack Quaintance: Anything from Ignition Press, I read and I find interesting. 935 01:12:04.390 --> 01:12:11.920 Tad Eggleston: I haven't managed to read it all, but the more I read, the more I find myself going, oh, they're… 936 01:12:11.920 --> 01:12:13.239 Zack Quaintance: It's all good. 937 01:12:13.240 --> 01:12:19.650 Tad Eggleston: damn close to automatic, and I need to find time for more of their… 938 01:12:19.960 --> 01:12:25.130 Zack Quaintance: In baseball parlance, they are batting close to 1,000, my friend. They are! 939 01:12:25.130 --> 01:12:29.560 Tad Eggleston: They are. Ignition has been… Outstanding. 940 01:12:29.940 --> 01:12:44.210 Zack Quaintance: I absolutely love, what they're doing, and I love that there is a… so I think that there's been an issue in the direct market in recent years, like, a new publisher will announce a bunch of flashy stuff, and they'll have, like, one wave, maybe one and a half waves. 941 01:12:44.300 --> 01:12:55.680 Zack Quaintance: And then they just kind of fade when those waves don't make their money back, like, immediately, and that's not how this works. Like, you need… you need to keep throwing stuff out there till you get your Walking Dead or Saga or whatever. 942 01:12:55.980 --> 01:12:56.510 Tad Eggleston: Right. 943 01:12:56.510 --> 01:13:05.560 Zack Quaintance: Ignition is on their third wave or whatever now, and they're just continuing, like, they're not slowing down. They seem to have a long runway, and I think it's really good. 944 01:13:05.560 --> 01:13:11.289 Tad Eggleston: Well, and I also haven't heard about them not paying anybody, so that's always a… 945 01:13:11.290 --> 01:13:20.770 Zack Quaintance: Well, they're super… so, like, the principles behind it are, like, Jamie Rich, Philippe Savick, and, Jeremy Hahn, who've all very experienced comics people. 946 01:13:20.770 --> 01:13:21.110 Tad Eggleston: Very. 947 01:13:21.110 --> 01:13:24.829 Zack Quaintance: professional, and you never hear a bad word about any of them, like… Right. 948 01:13:24.830 --> 01:13:25.540 Tad Eggleston: No, I just… 949 01:13:25.540 --> 01:13:25.980 Zack Quaintance: True and creative. 950 01:13:25.980 --> 01:13:26.580 Tad Eggleston: I remember. 951 01:13:27.200 --> 01:13:35.660 Tad Eggleston: I mean, because Mad Cave's on its, it's, you know, has also done really good stuff for a while now, but I remember when it started really doing great stuff. 952 01:13:36.440 --> 01:13:39.299 Tad Eggleston: And… and we had just been through… 953 01:13:39.460 --> 01:13:48.240 Tad Eggleston: waves of great stuff with Scout, and then discovering that they weren't paying, and waves of great stuff with Aftershock, and then discovering that they weren't paying anybody. 954 01:13:48.450 --> 01:13:50.520 Tad Eggleston: So, like… 955 01:13:50.870 --> 01:14:05.340 Tad Eggleston: Tyler and I were, like, reticent to… to start plugging Mad Cave titles, even though we were loving them. So… so, like, the first person I found at C2E2 that year was Kelly Williams, because he had a couple of Mad Cave books, and I'm like. 956 01:14:05.380 --> 01:14:19.879 Tad Eggleston: Kelly, I need to ask you, like, how's it working for Mad Cave? You're getting paid? I want… I don't want this to be another Scout, because he'd also worked for Scout. He and Joe Sorakny had a great book at Scout that they had to claw back to put out the… 957 01:14:19.940 --> 01:14:24.210 Tad Eggleston: you know, the… what was it, the life and death of Captain Suave. 958 01:14:25.600 --> 01:14:26.289 Zack Quaintance: Great title. 959 01:14:26.290 --> 01:14:28.860 Tad Eggleston: But, yeah, but, but he's like. 960 01:14:29.270 --> 01:14:32.440 Tad Eggleston: He's like, they pay in direct deposit. 961 01:14:32.720 --> 01:14:47.619 Tad Eggleston: And if you get your pages in by Wednesday, it'll be on your Thursday check. So Wednesdays become my most productive day! And I'm like, yes! I can actually… I can actually plug a company! 962 01:14:49.550 --> 01:14:52.460 Zack Quaintance: You had to give them that, they had to prove themselves, you know. 963 01:14:53.130 --> 01:14:59.590 Tad Eggleston: Well, I mean, particularly because there was, there was a couple years there where it felt like every company that was making a splash. 964 01:14:59.590 --> 01:15:00.919 Zack Quaintance: Oh, I know. You know. 965 01:15:00.920 --> 01:15:05.099 Tad Eggleston: To turn around and turn that they were doing it at the expense of their creators. 966 01:15:05.100 --> 01:15:18.359 Zack Quaintance: I think a lot of these companies got kneecapped hard by the, what happened in the pandemic

with Diamond, and they… but they tried to… they tried to push through it, which is admirable. They all love what they're doing, right? But they just couldn't… after a while, it all crumbled, you know? 967 01:15:18.360 --> 01:15:22.630 Tad Eggleston: I mean, I think that might have been part of Scout's issue with Aftershock. 968 01:15:22.930 --> 01:15:28.130 Tad Eggleston: looking through their bankruptcy filings, it was that they were spending a lot of money trying to turn things into Hollywood. 969 01:15:28.130 --> 01:15:28.550 Zack Quaintance: Yes. 970 01:15:28.550 --> 01:15:36.600 Tad Eggleston: And that's not actually how you turn things into Hollywood. If you have to spend money to turn it into Hollywood, it's probably not turning into Hollywood. 971 01:15:36.910 --> 01:15:46.839 Zack Quaintance: 100%, because even if the one thing that's getting it made is your pitch guy who you're paying, it's not bringing any cultural cachet with it. Like, it's… 972 01:15:46.840 --> 01:15:47.240 Tad Eggleston: Right. 973 01:15:47.240 --> 01:15:48.239 Zack Quaintance: obscure book that… 974 01:15:48.240 --> 01:15:56.330 Tad Eggleston: But, like, when you looked at their filings, they owed millions of dollars to these… Hollywood PR firms. 975 01:15:57.010 --> 01:15:58.879 Zack Quaintance: Silly way to go about it. 976 01:15:58.880 --> 01:16:00.430 Tad Eggleston: Before the thousands of dollars… 977 01:16:00.790 --> 01:16:07.999 Tad Eggleston: are creators, you know? And it's like, no, you're making a product. If it's good, they will come to you. 978 01:16:08.270 --> 01:16:09.950 Zack Quaintance: There you go, yeah. 979 01:16:13.130 --> 01:16:19.420 Zack Quaintance: Press… Oni Press is another, I like their original stuff they've been putting out this year, like, 980 01:16:19.420 --> 01:16:22.470 Tad Eggleston: The two, dead Teenagers was great. 981 01:16:22.470 --> 01:16:29.910 Zack Quaintance: Dead Teenagers was fantastic. I enjoyed, I'm not gonna say this word correctly… est… estuary? 982 01:16:29.910 --> 01:16:32.130 Tad Eggleston: Didn't actually read that one. 983 01:16:32.460 --> 01:16:33.390 Zack Quaintance: That was, 984 01:16:33.390 --> 01:16:33.810 Tad Eggleston: Hmm. 985 01:16:33.810 --> 01:16:46.929 Zack Quaintance: Dave Angry and Tim Daniel and, Man House. It was like a… yeah, it was a spooky… had nuns, and it was set on the, like, Central California coast, so it was like a aquatic horror book with a bunch of Catholic stuff in it. 986 01:16:47.060 --> 01:16:47.600 Zack Quaintance: Pretty good. 987 01:16:47.600 --> 01:16:48.270 Tad Eggleston: Okay. 988 01:16:48.880 --> 01:16:49.410 Zack Quaintance: Like… 989 01:16:49.410 --> 01:17:01.390 Tad Eggleston: I remember it coming out, and I… they… that team has done a couple stuff, a couple things at Mad Cave that I liked too, so it was, like, on my list, and it just never quite cracked it, because… 990 01:17:01.920 --> 01:17:04.109 Tad Eggleston: There aren't enough hours in the day? 991 01:17:04.110 --> 01:17:04.889 Zack Quaintance: I hear ya, man. 992 01:17:04.890 --> 01:17:08.290 Tad Eggleston: Yeah, that's my excuse. You see my spreadsheet. 993 01:17:08.640 --> 01:17:14.599 Zack Quaintance: Those red-highlighted comics. Those are the ones I want to read, but haven't, and there's a lot. 994 01:17:15.000 --> 01:17:25.129 Tad Eggleston: No, I think that's actually probably the biggest reason that I haven't actually made the spreadsheet yet, is that, like, I'd have too many red highlighted comics, and… 995 01:17:25.400 --> 01:17:32.580 Zack Quaintance: I have to do it, because I get… I do a lot of these, I get them with the advanced review PDFs, the publishers send them digitally. 996 01:17:32.580 --> 01:17:33.100 Tad Eggleston: Me too. 997 01:17:33.100 --> 01:17:35.310 Zack Quaintance: My tablet, yeah. And if I'm lost… 998 01:17:35.310 --> 01:17:40.329 Tad Eggleston: I get more of them that way? But it makes it easier. 999 01:17:40.330 --> 01:17:47.080 Zack Quaintance: If I'm not organized with them, I forget I have them, I don't download them, like, so the spreadsheet for me is, 1000 01:17:47.290 --> 01:17:49.180 Zack Quaintance: Yeah. I gotta do it, yeah. 1001 01:17:49.180 --> 01:17:49.830 Tad Eggleston: No, again. 1002 01:17:49.830 --> 01:17:50.359 Zack Quaintance: And then also… 1003 01:17:50.360 --> 01:17:53.490 Tad Eggleston: I feel like I should, but I… 1004 01:17:53.600 --> 01:17:56.320 Tad Eggleston: I… I think I… I'm afraid of the red. 1005 01:17:56.910 --> 01:18:05.510 Zack Quaintance: It creeps up on you. My secret is, at the end of the year, I… from my day job, and I assume you're like this too, because you're a teacher, I get two weeks off, two and a half weeks. 1006 01:18:05.510 --> 01:18:05.850 Tad Eggleston: Right. 1007 01:18:05.850 --> 01:18:15.869 Zack Quaintance: right around the holidays, that's… that's when I knock out all the red. Like, that's when I'm like, I become part of the couch, and I just absorb these comics. 1008 01:18:16.410 --> 01:18:18.459 Tad Eggleston: When I'm not brain dead. 1009 01:18:18.700 --> 01:18:23.349 Tad Eggleston: I mean, that's the problem. Sometimes, by the time I get to those two weeks, it's like… 1010 01:18:23.350 --> 01:18:24.609 Zack Quaintance: I know, I just… 1011 01:18:24.610 --> 01:18:25.420 Tad Eggleston: Video games. 1012 01:18:25.420 --> 01:18:29.639 Zack Quaintance: Video game, yeah. Video games. We're on the same page. We're sleep. 1013 01:18:29.900 --> 01:18:34.779 Zack Quaintance: Movies, maybe? Yeah, but video games. Video games are always looming for that holiday break. 1014 01:18:34.780 --> 01:18:43.430 Tad Eggleston: I play a lot of baseball on my Switch. That's the only game that I really play, but I play it a lot. 1015 01:18:44.520 --> 01:18:46.750 Tad Eggleston: Have good hand-eye coordination. 1016 01:18:46.950 --> 01:18:55.680 Tad Eggleston: So all of the other games become frustrating. More so if I like the story

and I can't move on because of some Twitch thing that I can't do. 1017 01:18:55.980 --> 01:18:59.459 Zack Quaintance: You do the strategy games, like your Fire Emblem and your, 1018 01:19:00.350 --> 01:19:02.880 Zack Quaintance: Those kind of things that are turn-based, you know? 1019 01:19:03.120 --> 01:19:03.890 Tad Eggleston: Yeah. 1020 01:19:04.260 --> 01:19:05.170 Tad Eggleston: Possibly. 1021 01:19:05.570 --> 01:19:07.880 Zack Quaintance: Reliance on hand-eye coordination a bit. 1022 01:19:08.060 --> 01:19:12.779 Tad Eggleston: But reduces and gets rid of are sometimes different things. 1023 01:19:12.780 --> 01:19:13.170 Zack Quaintance: Yeah. 1024 01:19:13.170 --> 01:19:18.920 Tad Eggleston: I mean, sometimes it's really dumb things that… You know, I mean, like… 1025 01:19:21.120 --> 01:19:35.920 Tad Eggleston: I never played Red Dead Revolver 2, because I loved Red Dead Revolver, but I then had to, like, wait 6 months until my brother came to visit to get me past a level that he thought was easy, but I could never actually 1026 01:19:37.150 --> 01:19:41.820 Tad Eggleston: get through. He's like, but you did this, and you did that, and you did that, and I'm like… 1027 01:19:43.020 --> 01:19:47.789 Tad Eggleston: Those were different? I don't know why they were different. 1028 01:19:50.290 --> 01:19:56.769 Zack Quaintance: I hear you, man, I hear ya. I have one more comic to shout out, though. One more. 1029 01:19:56.770 --> 01:19:57.650 Tad Eggleston: Absolutely. 1030 01:19:57.650 --> 01:19:58.300 Zack Quaintance: Maybe my favorite. 1031 01:19:58.300 --> 01:19:59.749 Tad Eggleston: Shout out as many as you want. 1032 01:19:59.980 --> 01:20:04.160 Zack Quaintance: My favorite comic of the year that… certainly that's come out issue by issue. 1033 01:20:04.580 --> 01:20:07.359 Zack Quaintance: Paul Chadwick's concrete, so… 1034 01:20:07.360 --> 01:20:08.180 Tad Eggleston: Oh, yeah. 1035 01:20:08.520 --> 01:20:09.860 Zack Quaintance: I've been loving that. 1036 01:20:09.860 --> 01:20:16.709 Tad Eggleston: We, we… We did, in our Great Responsibility section of our… 1037 01:20:17.880 --> 01:20:23.280 Tad Eggleston: weekly episode, we did all the volumes of concrete, like, sometime last year? 1038 01:20:23.950 --> 01:20:28.279 Tad Eggleston: So I've definitely been reading that and enjoying it a lot. 1039 01:20:28.610 --> 01:20:29.020 Tad Eggleston: plunging. 1040 01:20:29.020 --> 01:20:34.410 Zack Quaintance: comic. It's a… I'm so glad he brought it back 20 years without the main story kind of moving on. 1041 01:20:34.410 --> 01:20:35.790 Tad Eggleston: Something like that. 1042 01:20:37.640 --> 01:20:39.769 Tad Eggleston: I think my favorite this year 1043 01:20:41.370 --> 01:20:46.640 Tad Eggleston: And it's similar, it's… it's, it's the thing that came back after a long time off. 1044 01:20:46.640 --> 01:20:48.750 Zack Quaintance: BomThing89, right? Is that where you're going? 1045 01:20:48.750 --> 01:20:49.180 Tad Eggleston: No? 1046 01:20:49.180 --> 01:20:50.869 Zack Quaintance: No. Is there another one? 1047 01:20:50.870 --> 01:20:53.040 Tad Eggleston: Or powers 25. 1048 01:20:53.040 --> 01:21:06.009 Zack Quaintance: Oh, Powers 25, yeah. Dude, like, yeah, I wish I could show you my shelf above my desk. It's got all the compendiums that Dark Hars put out recently of powers, like, I love Powers as a. 1049 01:21:06.010 --> 01:21:08.820 Tad Eggleston: I lost powers, I love… 1050 01:21:08.820 --> 01:21:13.399 Zack Quaintance: arc might be the best Powers arc. Like, it was so good. 1051 01:21:13.400 --> 01:21:16.760 Tad Eggleston: Personal. It was so good, and, like. 1052 01:21:20.300 --> 01:21:26.689 Tad Eggleston: I didn't know how much I missed Powers until I was reading that first issue of Powers again. 1053 01:21:27.060 --> 01:21:29.869 Tad Eggleston: It just felt… yeah, yeah, it felt like just… 1054 01:21:30.340 --> 01:21:36.329 Tad Eggleston: Putting on that warm blanket, and getting that cup of hot chocolate, and just… 1055 01:21:37.150 --> 01:21:39.460 Tad Eggleston: being safe again. I'm with you. 1056 01:21:39.460 --> 01:21:42.810 Zack Quaintance: Yeah, that one's in my, 1057 01:21:43.150 --> 01:21:49.270 Zack Quaintance: That one's in my short list of my favorite comics of the year. Power's 25, for sure. Concrete, and then… 1058 01:21:49.470 --> 01:21:55.449 Zack Quaintance: My pal Oliver Mertz, his, graphic novel with Oni, Ghost… Oh, so good! 1059 01:21:55.450 --> 01:21:55.910 Tad Eggleston: charm of hope. 1060 01:21:55.910 --> 01:21:56.750 Zack Quaintance: Ghosts, yeah. 1061 01:21:57.150 --> 01:22:01.409 Tad Eggleston: Yeah, I need to… I need to reach out and have him on, 1062 01:22:01.410 --> 01:22:03.279 Zack Quaintance: I'll give you an intro if you want, 1063 01:22:03.280 --> 01:22:03.740 Tad Eggleston: Dick? 1064 01:22:03.940 --> 01:22:05.770 Zack Quaintance: He's one of the nicest dudes ever. 1065 01:22:05.770 --> 01:22:10.829 Tad Eggleston: Well, and he's also, I mean… I backed his Kickstarter. 1066 01:22:11.170 --> 01:22:18.620 Tad Eggleston: And then realized that it wasn't the whole thing, so I managed to read the whole thing ahead of it coming out, because I reached… he… 1067 01:22:18.890 --> 01:22:21.790 Tad Eggleston: Superfan does Oni, so… 1068 01:22:21.790 --> 01:22:22.700 Zack Quaintance: Yeah, yeah. 1069 01:22:23.120 --> 01:22:24.449 Tad Eggleston: So I know I… 1070 01:22:24.450 --> 01:22:26.780 Zack Quaintance: If you go through them. David Hyde. 1071 01:22:26.780 --> 01:22:29.210 Tad Eggleston: David Hyde, another one of my baseball buddies. 1072 01:22:29.210 --> 01:22:30.859 Zack Quaintance: Yeah, he's a big baseball guy. 1073 01:22:31.100 --> 01:22:35.680 Tad Eggleston: Also, also Shelley Bond loves Oliver to death. 1074 01:22:37.910 --> 01:22:38.810 Zack Quaintance: Yeah. 1075 01:22:39.540 --> 01:22:45.019 Tad Eggleston: She plugged the hell out of him the last time. Yeah, she plugged the

hell out of him the last time she was on the show. 1076 01:22:45.370 --> 01:22:49.339 Tad Eggleston: So yeah, no, that's… 1077 01:22:49.340 --> 01:22:56.529 Zack Quaintance: He's awesome, though. He's a great guy, and an amazing writer, and a colorist, too. It's, like, unfair how many things this guy's good at. 1078 01:22:56.530 --> 01:22:59.600 Tad Eggleston: Well, and like, that's the odd… 1079 01:23:00.120 --> 01:23:06.589 Tad Eggleston: I mean, I guess we've seen some colorists do some writing in recent years, but it still feels like an odd… 1080 01:23:07.020 --> 01:23:15.880 Tad Eggleston: pairing, the, the, you know… It's not common. I've known a lot… I've known a lot of writers that taught themselves to letter just so that they could edit 1081 01:23:16.500 --> 01:23:21.450 Tad Eggleston: At the last minute, without feeling like they were putting They're letterers out. 1082 01:23:21.740 --> 01:23:25.689 Zack Quaintance: And, yeah, I would love that luxury, to be honest with you. 1083 01:23:25.690 --> 01:23:31.289 Tad Eggleston: But… but I… I, like… the only… I mean… 1084 01:23:32.600 --> 01:23:36.850 Tad Eggleston: I feel like there have been a couple of colorists that have written books in 1085 01:23:36.980 --> 01:23:47.019 Tad Eggleston: recent years, but they'd been colorists for a long time, and then written books. I think by the time I knew Oliver, he was writing and color, and I'm just not… 1086 01:23:47.420 --> 01:23:49.460 Tad Eggleston: Not used to seeing that pairing. 1087 01:23:49.890 --> 01:23:55.789 Zack Quaintance: Yeah, I don't think there's anyone who does either in equal measure as, like, you know. 1088 01:23:55.790 --> 01:23:56.180 Tad Eggleston: Right. 1089 01:23:56.180 --> 01:23:57.540 Zack Quaintance: A lot of the colors you've written books are 1090 01:23:57.720 --> 01:24:06.400 Zack Quaintance: have colored exponentially more comics than they've written. He's not like that, like, he kind of does it in equal measure, so… Right. That is a bit unusual. 1091 01:24:06.400 --> 01:24:10.860 Tad Eggleston: I mean, I think he mostly colors his own books, and occasionally somebody else's. 1092 01:24:10.860 --> 01:24:16.409 Zack Quaintance: Yeah, like, he's covering that, Forgotten Five that Alex Segura's writing with Cerse, 1093 01:24:16.410 --> 01:24:19.369 Tad Eggleston: So good. And Alex is another great guy. 1094 01:24:19.640 --> 01:24:22.860 Zack Quaintance: Alex is another one of the nicest guys in comics, yeah. 1095 01:24:22.860 --> 01:24:24.230 Tad Eggleston: So, so good. 1096 01:24:24.350 --> 01:24:26.880 Tad Eggleston: A hell of… a hell of a prose writer. 1097 01:24:27.830 --> 01:24:31.219 Zack Quaintance: Yeah, Secret Identity is his murder mystery. 1098 01:24:31.220 --> 01:24:35.100 Tad Eggleston: I love… I love both of those, but I also love all of his, Pete… 1099 01:24:37.060 --> 01:24:38.930 Tad Eggleston: Why am I forgetting the name of the… 1100 01:24:39.570 --> 01:24:41.760 Zack Quaintance: It's, binging them. 1101 01:24:42.050 --> 01:24:47.919 Tad Eggleston: No, Pete Alonzo was the Mets' first baseman, now with the Orioles. Yeah, you would know. 1102 01:24:47.920 --> 01:24:50.289 Zack Quaintance: You would know, yeah. 1103 01:24:50.290 --> 01:25:00.309 Tad Eggleston: That's too funny. I mean, he did just hit his 300th home run at Shea Stadium as a, 1104 01:25:00.810 --> 01:25:07.290 Tad Eggleston: Orioles, so I wouldn't be surprised if it made it into, 1105 01:25:07.890 --> 01:25:10.840 Tad Eggleston: made it into your… your beat Slack. 1106 01:25:11.900 --> 01:25:13.959 Zack Quaintance: I'm also in New York, so… 1107 01:25:14.420 --> 01:25:15.060 Tad Eggleston: Yeah. 1108 01:25:15.060 --> 01:25:15.840 Zack Quaintance: There's no. 1109 01:25:15.840 --> 01:25:21.749 Tad Eggleston: But Heidi, as the big Mets fan, you know… I think she's mentioned… 1110 01:25:22.490 --> 01:25:33.709 Tad Eggleston: I'll actually have to ask her how that felt, because it sounds like the crowd actually cheered him, and I'm really happy about that, because it could have gone the other way. Yeah, yeah. 1111 01:25:33.720 --> 01:25:35.909 Zack Quaintance: Well, when your team is as… 1112 01:25:36.020 --> 01:25:39.200 Zack Quaintance: You know, they haven't had a lot to cheer about this year. 1113 01:25:39.650 --> 01:25:45.350 Tad Eggleston: Well, but, I mean… Pete Fernandez is the name Fernandez. 1114 01:25:45.350 --> 01:25:47.059 Zack Quaintance: No, no, that's not that far from Alonzo River. 1115 01:25:47.060 --> 01:25:55.920 Tad Eggleston: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Five books with Pete Fernandez, and Pete Fernandez shows up in Alter Ego, which is what made me go back and read 1116 01:25:56.110 --> 01:25:58.729 Tad Eggleston: all of the Pete Fernandez books. 1117 01:25:58.730 --> 01:26:00.399 Zack Quaintance: Oh, okay. Yeah. 1118 01:26:02.050 --> 01:26:04.259 Tad Eggleston: Yeah. But, 1119 01:26:04.890 --> 01:26:19.330 Tad Eggleston: No, like, I was at a Cubs-Dodgers game this year, and like, every time Kyle Tucker came up, he got booed, and I'm sitting there going, why are we booing him? He was really good for us last year, and then we didn't make him an offer to come back. 1120 01:26:19.640 --> 01:26:20.200 Zack Quaintance: Yeah, there's… 1121 01:26:20.200 --> 01:26:26.460 Tad Eggleston: signed somewhere else. He would have maybe even… And also, he's not doing that well this year. 1122 01:26:28.310 --> 01:26:28.790 Tad Eggleston: Now, Peter. 1123 01:26:28.790 --> 01:26:29.629 Zack Quaintance: He would have maybe been… 1124 01:26:29.630 --> 01:26:34.510 Tad Eggleston: a little bit better than Kyle Tucker, but also wasn't really invited back to the Mets. 1125 01:26:35.220 --> 01:26:38.400 Zack Quaintance: Right, right. That should make a difference. You know, if it's, 1126 01:26:38.400 --> 01:26:41.989 Tad Eggleston: It's not like… it's not like he ran off to the highest bidder. 1127 01:26:42.750 --> 01:26:43.340 Zack

Quaintance: Right. 1128 01:26:45.330 --> 01:26:55.160 Tad Eggleston: You know, it annoys me even more when it's the guy that gets traded away. It's like, you understand that they don't have any say of getting traded, right? Yeah. 1129 01:26:57.460 --> 01:27:00.260 Tad Eggleston: It's just something that happens sometimes. 1130 01:27:00.540 --> 01:27:05.840 Tad Eggleston: So, I was… I was pleased when I heard that Pete Alonso got… got cheers for his 300th home run. 1131 01:27:06.120 --> 01:27:09.649 Tad Eggleston: But you're not the baseball guy, so we should get back to comics. 1132 01:27:09.850 --> 01:27:19.120 Zack Quaintance: I mean, yeah, I'm… you know, I was sort of an oddball, not to upset you, but I actually grew up liking both the Cubs and the White Sox, so… 1133 01:27:19.120 --> 01:27:20.390 Tad Eggleston: That doesn't upset me. 1134 01:27:20.680 --> 01:27:22.480 Zack Quaintance: Yeah, yeah, I never, you know. 1135 01:27:22.480 --> 01:27:23.060 Tad Eggleston: I mean, I… 1136 01:27:23.060 --> 01:27:24.350 Zack Quaintance: Rising there, you know. 1137 01:27:24.350 --> 01:27:37.600 Tad Eggleston: I am a die-hard Cubs fan, but I have never particularly disliked the White Sox. I'm happy when they win. The only times that I root against them are when they're playing the Cubs, the Twins, or the Red Sox. 1138 01:27:39.180 --> 01:27:41.269 Zack Quaintance: They play the Twins quite a bit, but other than. 1139 01:27:41.270 --> 01:27:46.800 Tad Eggleston: They do, they do, but I've got family from Minnesota, I loved Kirby Puckett. 1140 01:27:47.020 --> 01:27:55.060 Tad Eggleston: You know, I just happen to be more of a Twins fan. And now, even more so, because my wife's from South Dakota, so her whole family are Twins fans. 1141 01:27:55.060 --> 01:27:57.010 Zack Quaintance: Right. 1142 01:27:57.560 --> 01:27:58.100 Tad Eggleston: Aww. 1143 01:27:58.100 --> 01:28:05.669 Zack Quaintance: But yeah, I'm not… I haven't followed baseball much as an adult, as much as an adult, although I did really get into the Cubs in 2016. 1144 01:28:06.210 --> 01:28:07.880 Tad Eggleston: Well, I mean, didn't we all? 1145 01:28:08.070 --> 01:28:10.300 Zack Quaintance: Yeah, everybody, the… yeah, the world, yeah. 1146 01:28:10.570 --> 01:28:21.570 Tad Eggleston: To be all. I mean, they got to be on Saturday Night Live. I still watch that episode sometimes, and dream that the week after that somehow didn't happen. 1147 01:28:21.740 --> 01:28:26.730 Zack Quaintance: I know, I'm always like, the Cubs winning the World Series broke reality. 1148 01:28:26.730 --> 01:28:29.600 Tad Eggleston: It sometimes feels like that. 1149 01:28:29.600 --> 01:28:33.809 Zack Quaintance: Things have not been the same… things have not been the same since. It's like… 1150 01:28:33.810 --> 01:28:40.169 Tad Eggleston: It sometimes feels like that. We got one week of pure bliss. 1151 01:28:40.720 --> 01:28:44.359 Tad Eggleston: Not even, because it was a Wednesday night in

Cleveland. 1152 01:28:44.520 --> 01:28:45.650 Zack Quaintance: Yeah, yeah. 1153 01:28:46.110 --> 01:28:48.420 Zack Quaintance: It didn't take long to, 1154 01:28:48.420 --> 01:28:52.499 Tad Eggleston: And the following Tuesday, The world broke. 1155 01:28:54.240 --> 01:28:58.180 Tad Eggleston: and Humpty Dumpty hasn't been put back together again. 1156 01:28:58.380 --> 01:29:00.850 Zack Quaintance: But Trump Shark appears in my comic to… 1157 01:29:00.850 --> 01:29:03.819 Tad Eggleston: Bring this awful. See, I was about to say that! 1158 01:29:04.900 --> 01:29:10.800 Tad Eggleston: I love that you made him a shark, given how much he hates sharks. 1159 01:29:11.580 --> 01:29:12.230 Zack Quaintance: I didn't even know that. 1160 01:29:12.230 --> 01:29:14.550 Tad Eggleston: with Shark Week. Yeah, no, he's… he's… 1161 01:29:15.720 --> 01:29:26.200 Tad Eggleston: he's obsessed with Shark Week and, like, scared of… he, it hasn't been mentioned in a while, but as soon as I saw that, I'm like, oh, that's… that's beautiful synergy. 1162 01:29:26.200 --> 01:29:32.780 Zack Quaintance: Yeah, it was more of a… because in the first one, there's Ape Trump as well, like, there's a bunch of Trumps, and this is more of, like, a. 1163 01:29:32.780 --> 01:29:37.730 Tad Eggleston: That's too nice. Apes are way smarter than Trump. 1164 01:29:38.310 --> 01:29:44.909 Zack Quaintance: How, sort of base and, like, ins… like… Animalistic and… 1165 01:29:45.240 --> 01:29:49.779 Zack Quaintance: sort of savage politics of God in, you know? It was kind of that… that idea. 1166 01:29:49.780 --> 01:29:50.739 Tad Eggleston: I suppose that's fair. 1167 01:29:51.120 --> 01:29:55.199 Zack Quaintance: Made it a different, different thing than it used to be. 1168 01:29:55.200 --> 01:29:58.070 Tad Eggleston: But also, it's about you being rude to apes. 1169 01:29:58.230 --> 01:30:02.560 Zack Quaintance: Apes fighting in space, so that's what it comes back to. 1170 01:30:03.110 --> 01:30:08.350 Tad Eggleston: And that I did like. I liked the Trek troops, which wouldn't have meant as much to me. 1171 01:30:09.050 --> 01:30:12.060 Tad Eggleston: Until this recent run of Star Trek comics. Have you read? 1172 01:30:13.030 --> 01:30:21.470 Tad Eggleston: the Star Trek comics since… since Heather and… and… Chris, and Jackson and Colin… 1173 01:30:21.740 --> 01:30:22.689 Zack Quaintance: I think we talked about this last. 1174 01:30:22.690 --> 01:30:24.079 Tad Eggleston: Included the whole line? 1175 01:30:24.080 --> 01:30:31.699 Zack Quaintance: big Cantwell fans, so I've read his stuff, and then I've read Red Shirts, but my… one of my terrible secrets is I'm like. 1176 01:30:31.840 --> 01:30:41.540 Zack Quaintance: I'm… sort of… like, I've watched some Star Trek, but I don't… I haven't watched it all, and it's just so intimidating to try to get totally into Star Trek, 1177 01:30:41.540 --> 01:30:44.550 Tad Eggleston: I still haven't watched anywhere near all of it. 1178 01:30:44.740 --> 01:30:49.349 Zack Quaintance: Yeah, I mean, how could you? If you didn't watch it as it came out, it's very difficult. 1179 01:30:49.350 --> 01:30:56.370 Tad Eggleston: I mean, I have binged a surprising amount of it since that run, just because I went… 1180 01:30:57.520 --> 01:31:02.669 Tad Eggleston: I mean, I'm a huge Cantwell fan, and he's a friend, so, like, I found out. 1181 01:31:02.670 --> 01:31:04.229 Zack Quaintance: Another super nice guy. 1182 01:31:04.230 --> 01:31:12.040 Tad Eggleston: Before the world. Yeah. Before the world found out he was getting… doing Star Trek. I got the text message that he was doing Star Trek, and he was like. 1183 01:31:12.960 --> 01:31:15.310 Tad Eggleston: Doing figurative cartwheels. 1184 01:31:15.310 --> 01:31:17.480 Zack Quaintance: Yeah, over the moon, I'm sure. 1185 01:31:17.480 --> 01:31:21.639 Tad Eggleston: And I'm like, oh shit, now I need to learn about Star Trek. 1186 01:31:21.640 --> 01:31:22.710 Zack Quaintance: Huh? 1187 01:31:23.210 --> 01:31:24.060 Zack Quaintance: There's a lot. 1188 01:31:24.060 --> 01:31:44.520 Tad Eggleston: Literally, literally, we have a 22 Panels episode that we framed as a classroom, you know, where I had Chris Condon and my friend Aaron, who are Star Trek fans, as the regular professors. The guest professors were Jackson Lansing, Colin Kelly, and Chris Cantwell, and I was the student. 1189 01:31:44.520 --> 01:31:48.310 Tad Eggleston: So, so Jackson and… and Colin and… and… 1190 01:31:49.490 --> 01:31:51.990 Tad Eggleston: Chris, like, pitched the whole line. 1191 01:31:52.980 --> 01:32:09.800 Tad Eggleston: And then they're like, okay, but you don't know anything about Star Trek, so, like, I see you've been taking notes, you've got questions, you know, shoot. And I'm like, okay, first, who's Benjamin Sisko? And Jackson just starts laughing. And he's like, oh, wow! 1192 01:32:10.000 --> 01:32:14.420 Tad Eggleston: You said you didn't know anything about Star Trek, and you meant it! 1193 01:32:18.780 --> 01:32:19.720 Zack Quaintance: That's too funny. 1194 01:32:20.110 --> 01:32:26.230 Tad Eggleston: I now know Benjamin Sisko very well, I loved Deep Space Nine, though I think I'm more of a Voyager guy. 1195 01:32:27.330 --> 01:32:32.640 Tad Eggleston: And those were the first two Star Trek series that I watched, because so many of the characters in… 1196 01:32:33.130 --> 01:32:39.230 Tad Eggleston: Defiant, and… Jackson and Colin's Star Trek line were from those… 1197 01:32:39.440 --> 01:32:41.650 Tad Eggleston: those two series, so even before I… 1198 01:32:41.650 --> 01:32:48.079 Zack Quaintance: 9 is on my list. I feel like it's maybe the most, fondly remembered among the hardcore Star Trek fans I know. 1199 01:32:48.080 --> 01:32:48.680 Tad Eggleston: Yeah. 1200 01:32:50.000 --> 01:32:57.900 Tad Eggleston: Yeah, I, I, I, I, I… I have a… I, like… 1201 01:32:58.040 --> 01:33:06.860 Tad Eggleston: I know that a lot

of the hardcore Star Trek people don't like Voyager a lot, and I almost don't want to know why, because I don't want it to be. 1202 01:33:06.860 --> 01:33:07.659 Zack Quaintance: Don't ruin it. 1203 01:33:07.660 --> 01:33:12.730 Tad Eggleston: Female captain. Right. I don't want it to be because of female captain. It might be other stuff. 1204 01:33:13.050 --> 01:33:17.160 Tad Eggleston: But, like, I don't wanna… cause… cause, like… And, and like… 1205 01:33:17.300 --> 01:33:22.819 Tad Eggleston: Obviously, I'm not the only one, because Chris loves it. That's one of the reasons he took so many characters from it. 1206 01:33:22.820 --> 01:33:28.080 Zack Quaintance: It's got its… it's got… I don't know, I'm, like, talking out of nowhere, but I feel like it has its fans. I'm not… 1207 01:33:28.080 --> 01:33:36.820 Tad Eggleston: Yeah, no, it definitely does, but it almost feels like the Last Jedi of Star Trek series. 1208 01:33:38.010 --> 01:33:41.249 Zack Quaintance: Oh, I could see that, yeah. I could see that. 1209 01:33:41.600 --> 01:33:53.820 Tad Eggleston: You know, where some of the people who aren't massive Star Trek fans love Voyager, and that actually makes them appreciate more of Star Trek, whereas some of the hardcore Star Trek fans are like, well, how can you like that? 1210 01:33:58.720 --> 01:34:01.200 Tad Eggleston: Fandom's weird. I don't know if you've noticed that. 1211 01:34:01.410 --> 01:34:03.300 Tad Eggleston: Working in comics? 1212 01:34:03.720 --> 01:34:04.900 Zack Quaintance: Well aware of that. 1213 01:34:05.760 --> 01:34:07.170 Zack Quaintance: It's hard to miss. 1214 01:34:08.610 --> 01:34:12.030 Tad Eggleston: I mean, you hit on that when you had two creators. 1215 01:34:12.030 --> 01:34:12.949 Zack Quaintance: That's right, yeah. 1216 01:34:12.950 --> 01:34:18.499 Tad Eggleston: Fist fight at, at, at, at a, at a, at a, at a panel in… 1217 01:34:20.270 --> 01:34:25.229 Tad Eggleston: That was… that was my new experience of this year. I… I hosted… 1218 01:34:26.180 --> 01:34:29.649 Tad Eggleston: 4 panels at C2E2 this year. 1219 01:34:29.650 --> 01:34:32.219 Zack Quaintance: Oh, nice! Yeah, that's a lot of fun. 1220 01:34:32.220 --> 01:34:32.630 Tad Eggleston: And… 1221 01:34:32.630 --> 01:34:34.979 Zack Quaintance: moderated a few in my time. 1222 01:34:35.430 --> 01:34:35.840 Tad Eggleston: Yeah. 1223 01:34:35.840 --> 01:34:37.010 Zack Quaintance: show ever, but… 1224 01:34:37.440 --> 01:34:41.449 Tad Eggleston: Well, I didn't expect to get 4 of the 5 that I proposed 1225 01:34:42.360 --> 01:34:45.889 Tad Eggleston: I mean, I went 0 for 3 for New York, New York. 1226 01:34:46.270 --> 01:34:50.189 Zack Quaintance: New York's tough, nobody gets their Panels except in New York. 1227 01:34:50.190 --> 01:34:50.850 Tad Eggleston: Right. 1228 01:34:51.040 --> 01:34:53.090 Tad Eggleston: But I got 4 out of 5… 1229 01:34:53.730 --> 01:35:00.729 Tad Eggleston: accepted at C2E2, including the one that

I thought there was no chance that they were gonna accept. 1230 01:35:02.220 --> 01:35:06.299 Tad Eggleston: I literally had a panel called Cool People Talking About Comics. 1231 01:35:06.440 --> 01:35:08.909 Tad Eggleston: Where, where we projected comics. 1232 01:35:09.290 --> 01:35:10.900 Tad Eggleston: And talked about them. 1233 01:35:10.900 --> 01:35:12.859 Zack Quaintance: I mean, it sounds great to me. 1234 01:35:12.860 --> 01:35:23.710 Tad Eggleston: Yeah, but I, like, it was so amalgamous, and, like, I had a couple of names that were with it, but also was like, I'm literally gonna invite anybody in Artist Alley to come join us. 1235 01:35:24.250 --> 01:35:24.670 Zack Quaintance: Nice. 1236 01:35:24.670 --> 01:35:27.639 Tad Eggleston: And we've got a handful of them. 1237 01:35:27.910 --> 01:35:36.430 Tad Eggleston: It's one of the ones I pitched at New York, too, because I had a bigger turnout for that than I expected, and I kind of want to make it a thing, because it was fun. 1238 01:35:37.010 --> 01:35:39.800 Zack Quaintance: Yeah, repeat the… repeat the thing at a different show. 1239 01:35:40.490 --> 01:35:44.779 Tad Eggleston: Well, and, like, I actually even figured out how to make it, like. 1240 01:35:47.530 --> 01:35:56.090 Tad Eggleston: to vary it, because, like, I just picked out 10… Between, like, 1- and 5-page… 1241 01:35:57.280 --> 01:36:02.509 Tad Eggleston: Sequences of comics that were worthy of… Talking about, right? 1242 01:36:03.450 --> 01:36:13.569 Tad Eggleston: going all through the years, comic strips, comic books, graphic novels, you know, try… I think I… I forget if I picked out a manga or not, but I know 1243 01:36:14.360 --> 01:36:17.080 Tad Eggleston: that I… want to. 1244 01:36:17.790 --> 01:36:25.250 Tad Eggleston: But what I've thought would actually be fun is to, like, Just continue expanding the slideshow. 1245 01:36:25.860 --> 01:36:31.040 Tad Eggleston: And then have some sort of random way to pick which ones you look at at any given show. 1246 01:36:32.940 --> 01:36:38.809 Tad Eggleston: Yeah. Like, have an audience member spin a wheel. Okay, number 19, here we go. 1247 01:36:41.870 --> 01:36:42.760 Tad Eggleston: So… 1248 01:36:42.760 --> 01:36:45.949 Zack Quaintance: Hopefully I'll get to be at a show where you do that. That'd be pretty cool. 1249 01:36:46.370 --> 01:36:54.620 Tad Eggleston: I know I'll at least keep pitching it at Chicago every year. The travel expenses are always the issue, and… 1250 01:36:55.350 --> 01:37:01.560 Tad Eggleston: Thankfully, I now know enough people that I can stay with around the country, because somehow… I know. 1251 01:37:01.680 --> 01:37:02.340 Zack Quaintance: Big time. 1252 01:37:02.340 --> 01:37:05.510 Tad Eggleston: Somehow, you actually make friends in comics, not just, like. 1253 01:37:05.510 --> 01:37:06.230 Zack Quaintance: Thank you all the time. 1254 01:37:06.230 --> 01:37:15.170 Tad Eggleston: to on your podcast, it's weird.

I've made more friends in my 40s than I did in my teens, and I wasn't a loner in my teens. You know. 1255 01:37:15.580 --> 01:37:20.559 Tad Eggleston: But that's not the way it's supposed to work. I mean, so many people make all of their friends before they leave school. 1256 01:37:21.040 --> 01:37:22.070 Zack Quaintance: Right, right. 1257 01:37:22.070 --> 01:37:28.180 Tad Eggleston: Whether that's the end of high school or the end of college. You know, because those are the only people that you, like, have to spend time with. 1258 01:37:28.890 --> 01:37:31.009 Zack Quaintance: Right. Yeah, you see them every day. 1259 01:37:31.390 --> 01:37:34.440 Tad Eggleston: You know, your friend by proximity. 1260 01:37:34.980 --> 01:37:37.240 Tad Eggleston: After that, you have to, like, do work. 1261 01:37:37.730 --> 01:37:38.670 Tad Eggleston: You have to think. 1262 01:37:38.670 --> 01:37:39.020 Zack Quaintance: sacrifice. 1263 01:37:39.020 --> 01:37:43.459 Tad Eggleston: I'm gonna send Zack an email to say, hey, how are you? 1264 01:37:43.700 --> 01:37:46.470 Zack Quaintance: I know, it's tough, man. 1265 01:37:46.920 --> 01:37:47.510 Tad Eggleston: That's stink. 1266 01:37:47.510 --> 01:37:48.219 Zack Quaintance: about that. 1267 01:37:48.830 --> 01:37:54.869 Tad Eggleston: But I'm realizing this is late, so let's roll into… some closing questions. 1268 01:37:54.870 --> 01:37:55.560 Zack Quaintance: Alright. 1269 01:37:55.560 --> 01:37:58.319 Tad Eggleston: Well, I don't think my first one for you… 1270 01:37:58.470 --> 01:38:00.419 Tad Eggleston: I had the last time you were on. 1271 01:38:01.320 --> 01:38:10.070 Tad Eggleston: As we've been in our fifth year of this podcast, I've been marveling about like, how… 1272 01:38:11.960 --> 01:38:14.380 Tad Eggleston: Dramatically, my life has changed. 1273 01:38:14.810 --> 01:38:18.100 Tad Eggleston: you know, how much I feel like I've fallen into the Twilight Zone. 1274 01:38:18.280 --> 01:38:28.319 Tad Eggleston: Like I just said, I've made more friends in my 40s than I did in my teens, and some of them are people that I used to look at as names in my favorite artifacts. 1275 01:38:28.530 --> 01:38:33.810 Tad Eggleston: So the idea that they're now people that I share Pictures of my grandkids with. 1276 01:38:34.270 --> 01:38:37.300 Tad Eggleston: Or talk trash about baseball with. 1277 01:38:37.630 --> 01:38:42.069 Tad Eggleston: It's just, you know, it's sometimes hard to wrap my head around. 1278 01:38:43.190 --> 01:38:57.989 Tad Eggleston: But I find that, like, everybody in this industry has surreal experiences that only happened because they were in comics. I think it's true of most arts in general, but I think it's even more so of comics because we're… 1279 01:38:58.360 --> 01:39:05.729 Tad Eggleston: really such a small group of people and insular. So I started collecting stories. Tell me one of the… 1280 01:39:05.960 --> 01:39:08.649 Tad Eggleston: Crazy stories from your life. 1281 01:39:09.240 --> 01:39:16.539 Tad Eggleston: experiences from your life that, that, like, you look back on and you kind of pinch yourself and go, is that really Zack Quaintance in that room? 1282 01:39:18.560 --> 01:39:22.959 Tad Eggleston: That just wouldn't have happened if it weren't for your involvement in comics. 1283 01:39:24.270 --> 01:39:31.429 Zack Quaintance: Man, I don't have, like, a, celebrity. I feel like, are these stories often, like, celebrity run-ins? Like… 1284 01:39:31.430 --> 01:39:33.650 Tad Eggleston: All of the above. They're all of the above. 1285 01:39:33.970 --> 01:39:43.500 Zack Quaintance: I do have a good one, and it's… it comes back to Garth Ennis, again. So, I was at… I went to Thought Bubble, last year, last fall to… because the, artists on my last. 1286 01:39:43.500 --> 01:39:45.589 Tad Eggleston: Totally on my bucket list. 1287 01:39:45.890 --> 01:39:53.830 Zack Quaintance: Yeah, the artist on my last book is from the UK, she was tabling there, so I brought her a bunch of the… instead of shipping the comics, I brought her a bunch so she could sell at the show. 1288 01:39:53.870 --> 01:40:02.019 Zack Quaintance: And one of my very good friends in comics, Steve Morris, does PR for, 2000AD, and we were going to get lunch, and the… 1289 01:40:02.020 --> 01:40:15.609 Zack Quaintance: fish and chips place, we wanted to go to was closed, so he's like, oh, I hate to do this to you, but there's an American theme bar, it's the closest thing, I need to get back to work, let's go eat lunch there. We went there yesterday with Garth Ennis. 1290 01:40:15.690 --> 01:40:28.559 Zack Quaintance: And we go there, and it's a Texas-themed bar in Harrogate, in the UK, which is, like, what you can… it's a pub, essentially, with a bunch of Texas. So we're… we're sitting there, and then Garth Ennis comes in again, the second day in a row. 1291 01:40:28.560 --> 01:40:29.639 Tad Eggleston: Oh, to eat. 1292 01:40:29.640 --> 01:40:31.529 Zack Quaintance: at the one Texas team pub. 1293 01:40:31.530 --> 01:40:33.929 Tad Eggleston: I mean, the fish and chips place was closed. 1294 01:40:33.930 --> 01:40:50.369 Zack Quaintance: Yeah, yeah, but it's just funny that, like, like you're talking about, the name I saw associated with the Texas comic preacher, you know, that thought bubble, two days in a row, goes to the Texas theme pub, like, so that was pretty unreal. That's my answer, yeah. 1295 01:40:50.510 --> 01:40:52.859 Tad Eggleston: I like that answer. I like that answer. 1296 01:40:52.860 --> 01:40:56.559 Zack Quaintance: What's the, okay. Well, yeah, what's the next one? I know you said you had a couple… 1297 01:40:56.670 --> 01:41:03.540 Tad Eggleston: Yeah, the last question you did have to answer the last time, because I… it's been one of my… it's been my closing question. 1298 01:41:04.150 --> 01:41:08.280 Tad Eggleston: Maybe not since the very beginning, but awfully, awfully close. 1299 01:41:08.430

--> 01:41:12.139 Tad Eggleston: Tell me something you love. 1300 01:41:12.810 --> 01:41:16.440 Tad Eggleston: Preferably comics, but we don't have rules. 1301 01:41:17.120 --> 01:41:20.989 Tad Eggleston: Preferably storytelling, but again, with the rules. 1302 01:41:21.490 --> 01:41:31.029 Tad Eggleston: But something that you love, that not enough people around you have experienced, and you really want them to, so you have more people to talk about it with. 1303 01:41:31.380 --> 01:41:39.290 Zack Quaintance: Oh, hell yeah, I love this question. I don't remember what I said last time either, so apologies. Okay, good. So you won't know, it could be the same thing. 1304 01:41:39.290 --> 01:41:50.540 Tad Eggleston: I mean, if I did, I would make you give me another one. So, like, if it immediately rings a bell, I'll go, nope. And if it's something that you've already talked about, I'm gonna say nope. So, like, all those comics we already went through can't be the one. 1305 01:41:50.540 --> 01:41:58.040 Zack Quaintance: I got another one, yeah. It's Sync by, John, written by John Leese and drawn by Alex Cormac. I think it's one of the best. 1306 01:41:58.040 --> 01:41:58.710 Tad Eggleston: Yes! 1307 01:41:58.710 --> 01:42:08.859 Zack Quaintance: made right now, and not enough people know about it, and read it, and talk about it. I have bought it for so many people, and given it to them, and be like, read this. 1308 01:42:08.860 --> 01:42:19.009 Tad Eggleston: I am one of the people who knows about it, and talks about it, and has John Lees and Alex Cormac on every time they launch a Kickstarter, so the next time 1309 01:42:19.340 --> 01:42:19.779 Tad Eggleston: I do. 1310 01:42:20.550 --> 01:42:24.440 Tad Eggleston: The next time they do, I expect you to sit second chair. 1311 01:42:24.770 --> 01:42:30.830 Zack Quaintance: Yeah, I'd love to do that. I would… that's… that's one I… I… yeah, I'll make time. Let's do that for sure. 1312 01:42:30.830 --> 01:42:38.950 Tad Eggleston: For that matter, they were… I wanna say… let's say… let's look this up so I get it right. 1313 01:42:39.960 --> 01:42:47.410 Tad Eggleston: My very first interview was with Christopher Sibella, who has… has finally got a new book coming out. He's… he's doing, 1314 01:42:47.410 --> 01:42:48.510 Zack Quaintance: Right? Isn't that what's called? 1315 01:42:48.510 --> 01:42:49.760 Tad Eggleston: Rip Kirby. 1316 01:42:50.310 --> 01:42:51.450 Zack Quaintance: with Tango. 1317 01:42:51.980 --> 01:42:52.770 Tad Eggleston: Right? 1318 01:42:53.210 --> 01:43:00.380 Tad Eggleston: Rip Kirby coming from Mad Cave. Yeah, Chris Sibella was our very first guest. 1319 01:43:00.600 --> 01:43:03.320 Tad Eggleston: But I want to say Lees and Cormac… 1320 01:43:05.730 --> 01:43:08.049 Tad Eggleston: I know they were in the top 5. 1321 01:43:08.680 --> 01:43:10.770 Tad Eggleston: But they might have been number 2. 1322 01:43:13.290 --> 01:43:18.560 Tad Eggleston: And they… they… I mean, Alex has been back with so many different, like. 1323 01:43:18.560 --> 01:43:18.900 Zack Quaintance: Alex. 1324 01:43:18.900 --> 01:43:32.979 Tad Eggleston: He manages to bring his right… I love Alex. I love Alex. But he also manages to bring his… his artist with every… yeah, that… with Great Power Number 2, from December 3rd, 2021, 1325 01:43:33.170 --> 01:43:35.780 Tad Eggleston: was with John Lees and Alex Cormac. 1326 01:43:36.050 --> 01:43:39.749 Tad Eggleston: We actually talked to… did you read Crimson Cage? 1327 01:43:40.170 --> 01:43:41.840 Zack Quaintance: Yeah, the wrestling one? Yeah, yeah. 1328 01:43:41.840 --> 01:43:45.719 Tad Eggleston: Yeah, the wrestling adaptation of Macbeth. 1329 01:43:45.980 --> 01:43:47.350 Zack Quaintance: Fantastic. 1330 01:43:47.530 --> 01:43:48.030 Tad Eggleston: I love. 1331 01:43:48.030 --> 01:43:48.580 Zack Quaintance: John's awesome. 1332 01:43:48.580 --> 01:43:50.530 Tad Eggleston: so much. John's amazing. 1333 01:43:50.720 --> 01:43:57.470 Zack Quaintance: Well, yeah, because I stole his creative team for the framing sequence in Death the Comics bookcase, because that's. 1334 01:43:57.470 --> 01:43:57.900 Tad Eggleston: Nice. 1335 01:43:57.900 --> 01:44:02.340 Zack Quaintance: I saw Ryan Lee, and Doug Garbar co… 1336 01:44:02.560 --> 01:44:10.019 Zack Quaintance: did the first framing sequence for Death of Comics Bookcase, because I liked Mountain Head so much, and then I brought, Ryan… Ryan… 1337 01:44:10.220 --> 01:44:17.599 Zack Quaintance: draws the comics bookcase, the big mutant comics bookcase, that's his character design, and I remember when I was starting the second comics bookcase, I thought. 1338 01:44:17.840 --> 01:44:28.840 Zack Quaintance: any of the other artists could leave, I'll write a new story for them, the book will still… a different story with a different artist, the book will still work. It's not ideal to not have artists come back, but I could do a different 1339 01:44:28.840 --> 01:44:45.589 Zack Quaintance: vignette, but Ryan has to come back and do the bookcase again, and so thank God he was able to. But yeah, because I'm such a big fan of John Lee's, that's how I come across his work in Mountain Head, and he's colored in this one by Michael Woods, because Doug's not doing comics right now, but yeah. 1340 01:44:45.590 --> 01:44:45.930 Tad Eggleston: I'm… 1341 01:44:45.930 --> 01:44:51.890 Zack Quaintance: So, like, John Lee's… Incredibly nice guy. Sync is an amazing achievement. Amazing. Amazing. 1342 01:44:51.970 --> 01:45:01.780 Tad Eggleston: Amazing, and… and this is where I'll also say, sync… Sync has… 1343 01:45:02.170 --> 01:45:07.970 Tad Eggleston: It's got a Kickstarter coming up. I don't think we've got an official date on it yet, but I know I have… 1344 01:45:08.240 --> 01:45:10.300 Tad Eggleston: one bookmarked. 1345 01:45:14.560 --> 01:45:17.720 Tad Eggleston: Projects… sync! 1346 01:45:18.180 --> 01:45:19.840 Tad

Eggleston: Pineapple. 1347 01:45:19.840 --> 01:45:21.410 Zack Quaintance: That's pineapple. 1348 01:45:22.160 --> 01:45:32.340 Tad Eggleston: Sex Dungeon Murder Mystery from John Lees and Alex Cormac. You can go sign up to be notified on that one as well. 1349 01:45:33.010 --> 01:45:39.930 Tad Eggleston: I actually expect, because they normally launch syncs in… October. Halloween. 1350 01:45:39.930 --> 01:45:40.410 Zack Quaintance: Hmm, yeah. 1351 01:45:40.410 --> 01:45:45.759 Tad Eggleston: kind of a Halloween-type thing. I expect it to be coming soon, which means I need to… to write out 1352 01:45:45.970 --> 01:45:50.549 Tad Eggleston: reach out to John and Alex. Alex, for a while, called himself… 1353 01:45:50.670 --> 01:46:08.629 Tad Eggleston: Alex, for a while, called himself, the Killustrator, and that came from me, because I… Nice. His handle is Alex Cormac Illustrator, but because it's Cormac with a K, I read it once as Kill Iustrator, and I told him that, and he's like, that's so amazing. 1354 01:46:08.630 --> 01:46:13.250 Zack Quaintance: Oh, he draws so many people getting killed as well. He does! 1355 01:46:14.000 --> 01:46:21.999 Tad Eggleston: But, yeah, no, I… Zach, you should go listen to that episode. 1356 01:46:22.300 --> 01:46:29.400 Tad Eggleston: If only because Alex gets John to share a story about a dream he once had. 1357 01:46:29.630 --> 01:46:39.330 Tad Eggleston: That is so fucking hilarious, and so fucking embarrassing, that John, to this day, can't believe that Alex got him to tell the story to the. 1358 01:46:39.330 --> 01:46:42.700 Zack Quaintance: I'll go do that, and then I'll ask him about it. 1359 01:46:44.400 --> 01:46:46.759 Zack Quaintance: But yeah, man, let me know when you're doing that episode, I'll come back. 1360 01:46:46.760 --> 01:46:48.359 Tad Eggleston: Yeah, no, I'm gonna… It may still be. 1361 01:46:48.360 --> 01:46:51.209 Zack Quaintance: during my Kickstarter as well. 1362 01:46:51.210 --> 01:46:59.449 Tad Eggleston: They literally send the email as soon as we get off, because… because I've been meaning to send it since the… since the, the… 1363 01:46:59.610 --> 01:47:03.250 Tad Eggleston: Since I got the notice to… to… to… 1364 01:47:03.760 --> 01:47:15.159 Tad Eggleston: you know, I read his… his… I forget if I got the notice through Kickstarter when they put up the launching, or if I… he also puts out his Friday newsletter that I read every week, or at least skim every. 1365 01:47:15.160 --> 01:47:20.579 Zack Quaintance: Yeah, John's newsletter's great. He does, like… I tried to do that once a month, to have a newsletter as, like. 1366 01:47:21.010 --> 01:47:26.100 Zack Quaintance: sort of robust as his is, and it's hard. It's so hard, and he does it every week, so… 1367 01:47:26.230 --> 01:47:28.129 Tad Eggleston: It does. It does. Grace to him. 1368 01:47:28.630 --> 01:47:33.619 Tad Eggleston: Like, there are a handful of people that manage to… like… 1369 01:47:36.150 --> 01:47:44.370 Tad Eggleston: It's one thing when you're doing the newsletter that's just, like, a couple of funny things, and then, like, the books you're doing. Lots of people manage to do that. 1370 01:47:44.370 --> 01:47:47.090 Zack Quaintance: Mine's all promo right now, I'm doing these Kickstarters, I don't have time. 1371 01:47:47.090 --> 01:47:49.360 Tad Eggleston: But the people who match a, like… 1372 01:47:49.490 --> 01:47:56.059 Tad Eggleston: do real commentary on, like, the other… you read Patrick Kindland's newsletter at all? 1373 01:47:56.240 --> 01:47:57.000 Tad Eggleston: he manages. 1374 01:47:57.000 --> 01:48:03.479 Zack Quaintance: No, John's is the one… of any creator, John's is the one I read week in and week out, believe. 1375 01:48:03.480 --> 01:48:04.090 Tad Eggleston: Right. 1376 01:48:05.040 --> 01:48:05.919 Tad Eggleston: I believe it. 1377 01:48:06.260 --> 01:48:07.370 Tad Eggleston: I believe it. 1378 01:48:07.490 --> 01:48:08.350 Tad Eggleston: I, I… 1379 01:48:10.240 --> 01:48:19.620 Tad Eggleston: I am on so many newsletter lists that I can't possibly read them all, I just have to… there's some that it's like, oh, John, must read. 1380 01:48:19.830 --> 01:48:27.910 Tad Eggleston: And sometimes I do, and sometimes it's the red spots in my fictional Spreadsheet, so… But anyway… 1381 01:48:27.910 --> 01:48:30.700 Zack Quaintance: Thank you for having me on tonight. 1382 01:48:30.700 --> 01:48:31.110 Tad Eggleston: Yeah. 1383 01:48:31.110 --> 01:48:32.810 Zack Quaintance: weeks for the John Lee's conversation. 1384 01:48:32.810 --> 01:48:35.930 Tad Eggleston: Yeah, we'll have to arrange that. 1385 01:48:35.930 --> 01:48:38.570 Zack Quaintance: Let's talk about DuPage County. 1386 01:48:38.570 --> 01:48:47.830 Tad Eggleston: Well, I mean, no, I mean, if we have Lees and Cormac, it's gonna be the two of them making each other laugh. We won't get to talk much at all. That's just the way. 1387 01:48:47.830 --> 01:48:49.150 Zack Quaintance: Fine by me, I'm just down there. 1388 01:48:49.150 --> 01:48:49.740 Tad Eggleston: Yeah, exactly. 1389 01:48:49.740 --> 01:48:50.180 Zack Quaintance: It is. 1390 01:48:50.180 --> 01:48:59.090 Tad Eggleston: Death of Comics Bookcase, Reign of the Comics Bookcases is on Kickstarter through… October 15th? 1391 01:48:59.320 --> 01:49:03.260 Tad Eggleston: at 11 a.m. Central Time, noon Eastern, 1392 01:49:03.550 --> 01:49:08.770 Tad Eggleston: This has been Zack Quaintance on 22 Panels, and we will see you after the next page.