(00:00:01) Podcast Clip of The AI Wars with Jeff Dornik

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By four three two one, Hey, welcome back to two Mikes.
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You're wrong with doctor Michael Shore, you New York Times
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bestselling author, and I got news for you, ladies and gentlemen.
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He is now polishing up his next book. I won't
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talk about weeks, months of dates, but he is working
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on his next book. And we're looking at twenty twenty seven.
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All right, and Colonel Mike, that's me and you guess
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who we're going to have on for a special guest today.
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The guy that started it all for the MIC's taking
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him off the radio. Terrestrial radio and putting them on
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a podcast Fear, and we came out there. Jeff, I
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don't even know how many years ago. He's on the screen.
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You see him, Jeff Dornic. We went through a lot
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of transitions.
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We started with it was Jeff and a couple of
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other guys I think it was Dustin Yep and one
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or two other shows, and then we came in. It
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was three or four of us altogether. We started on
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the Freedom First Network, which was a great name. I'm
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glad you kept it for Rumble.
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And Jeff's created the Freedom First Network and then he's
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transitioned a couple of times and now he's a big
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time elon.
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Musk competitor on pickaxe dot com. You go to hear
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him talk about that. But the reason we haven't Jeff pone.
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We haven't had him in a while.
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It's twenty twenty six, and he's really been zero. Went
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in on a lot of his shows which he puts
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live on Rumble and.
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He has him run on X two. He's doing a
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lot of AI and Mike and I were not big
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on AI.
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You know, like we're Model T, Model A and fifty
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seven Chevy, right, So we're gonna hear from Jeff, who's
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doing a lot of shows. He's got a lot of
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great guests on his podcast with regards to AI. But
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we're just going down memory lane for a minute. Welcome back, Jeff,
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how are you no?
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Thanks for having me back on. I always thoroughly enjoyed
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talking to both of you guys. And it's interesting because
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I've been I've been contemplating with the network. Obviously, we
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still we still kind of keep the network going a bit,
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like we still post your your shows and uh Bob
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and Eric Stave of America and Dustin Faulkner and all
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that kind of stuff.
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But I've been getting interest from a.
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Variety of people and like, dude, we need to like revamp, relaunch,
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you know, bring back freedom first network.
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So we we may just do that.
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So I'm trying to figure out the logistics of that
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one to see if I can swing it while at
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the same time building out a social media platform.
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So yeah, So Jeff, what you have another thing? It's
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it's like an American flag thing that you post stuff on.
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What is that? It's meiga America? What is that? There's
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another thing where you put in everybody else's shows.
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Oh so there's there's ex American News, uh, which yeah,
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so so that's that's a good friend of mine, Annie Cyrus.
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And and so she, uh, she's actually got a fascinating
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story as well because she actually she was actually born
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in Iran, had you know, forced marriage at a young age,
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had to flee and all that. She comes over and
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and you know, and so she has a really interesting
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insight on Iran's fascinating talking to her because on one hand,
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she's looking at it from perspective of like, you know,
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the Iranian people have been you know, oppressed and all
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that kind of stuff since like the seventies when when
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when the radical Islam took over. But also on the
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flip side, she's like, what Trump's doing is absolutely ridiculous
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and stupid and what the heck is he doing? So
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it's it's it was it's interesting talking to her, but
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she but she helps to run ex American News, and
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so well, I've been focusing on on Pickaxe. We've we've
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been kind of simulcasting a lot of our shows on
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on there just to help with getting.
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Some more reach and more views and all that kind
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of stuff.
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So okay, okay, cool, yeah, because I didn't know what
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that was all about. But I'm going to tell you
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Freedom First. But didn't you like that name, Mike?
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Yeah, I thought so.
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Yeah, I think that was the rock and roll I'm
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still I'm glad we're still on there. Plus you could
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get all our archives shows on here. I think you
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got along over there, right right, Yeah.
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I think I think we got them all. Going back
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to what was it? What was it twenty twenty?
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Is that when we started?
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I think so because because I because I remember when
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when Jad and I started, uh, you know, freedom Freedom
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First Network. At first, he and I started working together,
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we were gonna try to start a pack that didn't
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end up working out. And then because I already had
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the Christian podcast network with with Gatekeepers, we're like, well,
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why don't we just transition over and we'll do the politics.
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I already have experience with that.
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You had Gatekeepers. I forgot all about that, that's right.
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Yeah.
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So yeah, so that's what that led to Freedom First,
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And we were trying to come up with a name,
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and and you know it's like, you know, that was
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when you know obviously, like you know, everybody was you know,
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MAGA and America First and all that, and I'm like, well,
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why why don't we focus on just being free freedom
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first and you can have free speech, you know, kind
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of a playoff of America First, but from a more
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you know, freedom perspective, and it's stuck in at work,
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and everybody seemed to love the branding and all that,
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so it was great.
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Yeah, yeah, that's right. So it's twenty twenty.
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Gosh, Okay, so just down memory roll. We had a
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few guys was dusting, right, JD, Bob and Edic and
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at that time we popped in at the right time
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because right after that what happened what was it COVID, Right,
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it was COVID. We had all the doctors, then we
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had the lecture and integrity and you know, all the
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craziness going on, and then we kicked as a little
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bit on Apple, Mike and I remember we hit thirty eight.
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We beat Levin and Glenn Beck a couple of times
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on Apple, and we don't even get those anymore.
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You don't even get those scores anymore. Right, you can't
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tell where you are anywhere, you know.
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I think that that that company that was ranking everybody
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ended up getting bought and then they and then they
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shut it down, and uh, and I don't even know
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what's who who does what kind of ranking and being
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able to see who who's doing who's doing what? I
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think Spotify has has like a ranking, but Spotify, Spotify
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is a beast in and of itself trying to figure
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out stuff. And again they Spotify uses algorithms for discovery,
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whereas Apple doesn't. So on one hand, I like Spotify
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because they're you know, they're you know, they're you know,
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they They've got a lot of you know, great technology
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and all that. But then also on the flip side,
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it's actually a lot easier to build out on on
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Apple podcasts and you don't get manipulated by algorithms and
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all that. So it's it's it's a it's a weird
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thing dealing with this whole podcast world.
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Did you make a shirt yet?
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Know?
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Algorithms will pay you got to do something like a
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little catch up?
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We are we are, we are so so one of
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the things that we're that we're gonna be doing is
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we're gonna have a shirt that says I am the
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algorithm and and a lot of it is because the
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way that we structured it is we don't have any
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computer run algorithms or AI run algorithms on the platform,
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but you, as the human person on the platform, actually
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are the algorithms. So like if you're on let's say
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you're on Acts or you're on Facebook, Like everybody's complaining that, like,
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like the platforms are injecting all these random accounts into
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your news feed that you don't follow them, you've never
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signaled signaled that you want to see their content, but
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they get shown to you anyway. So the way that
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we deal with a lot of this, you know, what
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they call discoverability is instead of me trying to use
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AI to stock you across the internet and see all
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the different things that you look at and all the
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different conversations you have and then that way we can
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feed you particular information or ads, what we're actually doing
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is we're making it to where if you follow somebody,
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you actually see their content. And then if somebody that
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you follow comments on somebody else's post, that post will
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get brought into your news feed along with their comment.
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So then that's that way.
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It's an organic way of you actually discovering and seeing
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other content in a much more organic way because somebody
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that you followed engage with with that content, and so
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I feel like it's a much more honest and organic
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way of dealing with it. So we're actually running with
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the tagline of I am the algorithm.
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That's a good show. Mike, You're gonna get one. I
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know that right. Oh, by the way, did you tell
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everybody on the show, Jeff, where where where they could
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talk to Mike?
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Yeah? Well, I mean Mike, Mike's Mike's got Mike's got
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a pick X.
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Account, so and and and uh so you got going
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on there? I think there's I think there's two posts
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on there. So we'll definitely have to get some more
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some more volume going over there. But but yeah, but
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you guys, you guys can definite follow him over there.
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Yeah, he's not on X and he's been banned from
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everywhere everywhere else. By the way, we want to make
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the announcement today. Uh I just sent it to Mike yesterday.
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For years, we talked about s PLC, A d L
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and all these other mafia hit uh NGOs.
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S PLC got hit with eleven counts yesterday, Jeff. Yeah,
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of hiring informants and doing all that. Mike, did you
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know about that yesterday.
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I just heard the headline this morning.
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Yeah, I knew you'd wake up to coffee and be happy.
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That's a crazy story.
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Did you Did you see the details on that one
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on what they're alleging.
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Well, I heard it on the radio yesterday. Yeah.
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Yeah, because it's it's like basically like they were taking
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money and and then donating it to giving it to
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like white supremacist groups and like extremist groups and basically
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funding the other side to stroke drama.
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So then that way they have a boogeyman to fight against.
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And you're just like, I don't know, but but then
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but then then again, doesn't like our own government do
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the exact same thing.
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Well, the I teaches you how to do that, right,
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and then and then the military complex called the Pentagon
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and and uh defense contractors, they always got to have
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boogeyman because you got to keep selling the stuff. But
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I think this time around, Jeff, in where we are
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right now in twenty twenty seven, with Trump doing what
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he's doing in the Middle East, and I know a
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lot of the people listen to our show and your show,
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big Trump supporters, this is not the way to do it.
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It's a three thousand plus year old civilization. They've been
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around a while, whether you like the rg R R
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g R IRGC or you know has Bellah. This is
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Israel's fight, it's not America's fight. And our goth allies
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with which are our allies.
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In dollars and cents too, what they put into this country,
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they invest in this country. They're a little bit tired.
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They bought all the machinery, the military complex machinery, and
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it did not help. And what we're learning is you
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can't jump the gun because you hire people from Fox.
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You could hire people from Freedom First Network, but you're
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not going to be able to hire them from Fox.
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All they had to do was consult with us. We
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didn't say we want the job. We just said, hey,
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you could call us.
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We could come in part time and give you a
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little idea how it works.
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for this administration. And if you got a nice smile,
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and you wear very tight jackets that look like a
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younger brother, you know, and you got tattoos all over
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your head or whatever, you know, you could get a
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job out there, you know. And I'm surprised Bill O'Reilly's not.
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In the administration by now. You remember Bill O'Reilly.
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show all the time now.
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Como when he was on Inside Edition and five. I
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Inside Edition when he was very young because he had
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to do a live commercial at the end, Jeff, and
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they couldn't do it right, and he starts screaming at
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curs and he backs the cherry throws the jack. Yeah,
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so let's talk about AI. I don't understand a lot
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of this. I watch your things and I try to understand.
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I see these these people that are really educated in it.
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It's dangerous. It's really dangerous, right, And is it anti christ?
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I don't know. Is it part of the beasts? I
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don't know.
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what we need to know.
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on a micro level, there's a lot there's a lot
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of instances where you can use AI to your benefit
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for a for a variety of things that that is,
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that's a helpful tool, and I think that that's really
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what gets a lot of people, you know, sucked into it.
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AIF to uh to you know, edit my my article
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so that way I can deal with, you know, grammar.
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I don't have to send it to my wife because
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now that we've got a three year old running around
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the house and you know, trying to trying to you know,
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you know, do all that and hopefully she's got time
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to edit my stuff. And I'm like, okay, I can
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just put an AI. It'll it'll edit my grammar. You know,
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it can be a tool that could be used to
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your to your benefit. They're on the macro level. That's
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where I've got a lot of concerns on where AI
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is taking it. So Number one, I think it's actually
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dumbing down our society, especially as they're targeting kids with
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artificial intelligence. It's gonna stop development, you know, it's gonna
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stop critical thinking because people are relying on artificial intelligence
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and AI more and more every single day to where
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people are no longer gonna have to be thinking and
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using their brains. They're just gonna be relying on AI
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to make all their decisions and get all the information.
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in the car. It used to be to where you
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would have in your mind and basically a map of
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your city, and you knew how to how to get there.
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Now everybody just you know, turns on the maps. The
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maps tell them exactly where to go, and then you
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actually don't Actually you actually don't know how to get
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around your own city or your own town because you
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need your map to tell you where to go. Same
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kind of problem with artificial intelligence. So I think that
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it's stunting a lot of brain development in a lot
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of people young, old, across the board that are relying
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on artificial intelligence even more, which we could we could
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always dive into. But the other, the other component is
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what is the worldview and what's the outlook of these
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guys that are developing artificial intelligence? So what do they
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what do they foresee the end game? Where are they
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trying to take it, what are they trying to accomplish?
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Sam Maltman to Bill Gates, to Larry Ellison, you know,
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all the rest of the Silicon Valley artificial intelligence guys,
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they're all basically say saying the same thing is that
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you know, within the next decade or less, that that
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AI and robots are going to replace every single human
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being in the workforce. You know, in every single industry, construction,
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white collar, blue collar, fill in the blank, it's all
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going to be replaced by artificial intelligence and H and
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robots and uh. And they're saying that's going to happen
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with it within the next decade. So now what you're
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actually hearing from all these guys is they're all pushing
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either universal basic income coming from the government or even worse,
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universal basic can come in the form of a quote
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unquote dividend that would be coming from these tech companies
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for basically taking away your job. And then this then
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leads into this, you know, World Economic Forum, you will
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own nothing and be happy and and you know, it's
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really interesting because I think with Elon Musk and he's
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obviously he became a darling of the MAGA movement and
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Trump supporters, and he's super close with the with the
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Trump administration, and all and all that kind of stuff,
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and like literally if if you go back a few years,
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he had a conversation with Benjamin Net Yahoo and uh
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and the and net and Yahuo asked him, what's the
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end game of AI and Elon says, well, it's gonna
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be one of two scenarios. It's either gonna be Terminator
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where AI robots dominate us and take over the planet
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and we become subservient to them or at a constant
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war with them or something like that, or it's gonna
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be having on Earth. And net Yahoo asked the logical
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follow up question, well, what does happen on Earth look like?
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Pixar movie Wally, which is where basically everybody's connected to
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the Internet, nobody has to work. You're just like you
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can travel just by thinking at your mind because you've
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got your brain ship that can you know, simulate reality. Uh,
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you know you can three D print food. You're on
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universal basic income. You live this hedonistic lifestyle with no responsibilities,
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and it's all leisure and it's all quote unquote fun
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and all of that, and you're just sitting here like, well.
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You're taking away everybody's purpose.
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You're taking you know, and at a certain point, if
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everybody just is sucking resources, then then you know, are
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are is there even a purpose for having people around?
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And then you and then finally and then I'll throw
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it back to you. And I'm curious you guys thoughts
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on this as well. Elon Musk goes on Joe Rogan's
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podcast a couple of months ago, and uh, and nobody
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bats an eye at this, and I'm absolutely shocked at it,
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he goes on Joe Rogan's podcast, And I believe he
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also mentioned this that the Tesla shareholder meeting, where he
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literally said that he's using capitalism with Tesla and his
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AI robots and optimists and the whole deal. He is
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using capitalism in order to usher in a communist utopia,
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his words, not mine, his words, a communist utopia. And
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he explained that communism always failed because it ran out
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of resources. But with AI and with his optimist robots,
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they'll have a surplus of resources. So now they can
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make communism work in reality, and nobody an eye. Nobody's
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sitting there thinking like, yeah, I'd prefer not to live
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in communism, and they just carry on and he continues
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to be in and around the Trump administration and nobody's like, yeah,
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you know what, maybe this guy's worldview is a little
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off base. We should kind of like slow this thing
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down a little bit.
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Well, I didn't even know that, did you know that, Mike?
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I did not.
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What do you got to say that.
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That doesn't surprise me? You know, I didn't hear it,
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but I wouldn't. It wouldn't surprise me. He's a he's
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a slick character, and he has a mind of his own.
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He's a talented man. And there's a lot of talented
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men who think stupid things. Mm hmm, and this would
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be this would be one of them. They're still gonna
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need educated people, well, I would think though, And that
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that's the thing with for me with AI is that
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the schools, the school system in this country is already worthless,
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almost right up to the college levels. And now we
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have a system that can provide fodder for school assignments,
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homework projects, whatever, at all at all levels of government.
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And how do you, you know, what are you going
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to do with that? Is there a way to detect
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a piece of work from an eighth grader for example,
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that that is too polished, too good to in depth
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and you can you can somehow strike back at that,
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or is it they just going to let it go,
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especially I think at the college level it's a disaster.
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Yeah, well, you know, I think at a certain point
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they're going to have to just let it go. And
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I think I think it's going to be in the
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same way that like when the calculator was introduced. It
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used to be that like that, you know, in school,
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it's like, well, we can't use the calculator, and all of
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a sudden, they're like, well, everybody has a calculator now
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on their phone. We have to We're now we're going
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to start teaching kids how to use it. And they
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feel like it's gonna be kind of the same thing
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with AI, to where it's not going to be writing
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papers and doing your homework. Is going to be different
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in the future with with AI because instead of getting
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you to think about the answers and getting you to
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memorize and remember things that actually learn, they're gonna be
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teaching you how to use artificial intelligence in order to
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get the answers, which again I think is gonna stunt
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human development. I think we're gonna have a lot of
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really what I always say, We're gonna have a lot
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of really smart dumb people because they're gonna have access
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to all the information, the entire you know, database of
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information that's on the internet through through AI. But they're
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not gonna know how to critically think. They're not actually
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going to be have brain development at all. And so
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if if all of a sudden there's an e MP
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attack and all the all the all the power goes
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out and there's no more AI, you have a lot
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of really dumb people running around. But also, like you know,
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we're we're also looking now at the Trump administration is
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now implementing artificial intelligence into our school system on a
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mass level. I don't know if you guys saw this,
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but Milania Trump, uh, you know, had this summit with
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all the all the first ladies of all the countries
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from around the world to talk about AI within the
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education system, and she was escorted out by a humanoid robot.
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And she was then pitching to everybody that we should
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have these humanoid robots in the classrooms as the teachers
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to begin to teach our children, and that the future
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is in these humanoid robots because they're smarter than than
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human beings. They're smarter than people, and so it's better
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for us to be learning from them than it is
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from these teachers that you know, they you know, they
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physically can't keep up with the inficip So she's like,
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what if we programmed a humanoid robot to be Plato
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and then you have Plato in the classroom teaching kids,
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You're taking away you know that this this ability for.
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Students and for humans to thrive and get better and
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improve and all that. And it also it's kind of
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like it's gonna be sterilizing, I think the the entire
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process of learning, of growth, of learning from your mistakes
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and all of that into where it's just becomes this
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this scenario where it's that we'll just be completely reliant
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upon AI and humanoid robots. And at a certain point,
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and like, right now, if you look at humanoid robots,
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like you can tell obviously because it looks like like
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a sci fi movie, but they're already developing the technology
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to where in the future you're not gonna be able
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to tell the difference between a human a humanoid robot
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and an actual human based upon appearance, based upon uh
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the speech or anything like that. It's it's gonna be
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it's gonna be very, very difficult to tell the difference
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to where you're gonna we're gonna be walking around, according
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to Elon Musk, with about a billion humanoid robots walking
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around the Earth doing jobs, fulfilling things, just walking.
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Down the street.
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And you're just sitting here like, is this really the
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world that we want to live in? Where it's this
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comm it's this sci fied world combined with humanoid robots
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and actual human beings. And if you go back to
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like when when Elon rolled out the at the Tesla
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shareholders you know event that they had, uh you know,
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I think it was last year. You know, they brought
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he brought out his Optimist robots, and literally in the promo, Uh,
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they're talking about, you know, the bartenders and waiters and
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waitresses are gonna be humanoid robots.
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Uh you can, you can.
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to babysit your kids, to teach your kids to be
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a cook, to be a doctor, to do to do
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surgery on there.
486
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Elon evens.
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Even Elon even set up in West in West Hollywood,
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in in uh up the up there out here in California.
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He actually had a diner for like a Tesla diner
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and all the waiters and waitresses were Optimist robots that
491
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were that were taking orders and serving and the whole
492
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deal like that.
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Who is cookie? Who was Cookie?
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Was it robots? I think it might have been robots?
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Wow?
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Yeah, Like that's the future that like these guys see,
497
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and it's it's like this is about as anti human
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as you can possibly get.
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We get to the verse in the Bible where Jesus says,
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if or the Bible says, if he didn't come back,
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there would be no flesh saved, and even they would
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deceive the elect And that's where we're going.
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Now, you just said something about Milania. What's scary? Number One,
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I have a little bit of a solution. I don't
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know if you guys would agree with it.
506
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You put Elon Musk on one of these rockets and
507
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leave them on the moon, right, and then you come back.
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The second thing is you said about Malania with the robots.
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What's scary is the Democrats can now pitch, Hey, we
510
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got a robot for you know, the next president, and
511
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you know everything's going to be great. Even Elon Musk
512
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made the robot for us, so now you don't have
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to vote for a human anymore.
514
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This is really scary. Now. They should have had the
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robot when Joe Biden was around. It would have been
516
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a little bit better.
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You know, fair, Yeah, I mean, I mean, I mean
518
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they may have used that, you know, a humanoid robot
519
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because it was at the early stages of AI was
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probably glittering out and you know, conking out and falling asleep,
521
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thet of turchet.
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Up a little bit and all that kind of stuff.
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But you know, and I'm glad, I'm glad you brought
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that up though about because like Joe Rogan has actually
525
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pitched that we should have an AI president because there's
526
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this caricature of artificial intelligence that it can be this
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neutral arbiter of truth and you're not going to have
528
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human interests and all that kind of stuff. And it's again,
529
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you're just looking at this. But but then if if
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you have that, then you're going to have a robot
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in there that that is not responsible to anybody, It
532
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doesn't face any consequences.
533
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What are you going to do unplug it?
534
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Like, like when you think about it, like there's no
535
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con you can't punish an AI president for doing something unconstitutional.
536
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But I'm also deeply concerned with with the Trump administration
537
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fast tracking AI in all the different agencies. And one
538
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of the things that they're actually doing is they're they're
539
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they're combining all the databases from all the different agencies
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and putting it into like what like centralized large large
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language models. And they're doing it because, again under Elon's
542
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guise of efficiency that he pushed during DOGE, let's get
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all let's get all the data into one large language
544
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model and then that way everybody can access the information.
545
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It's okay, but also so's there's two problems with that.
546
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Number one is from a national security standpoint, we're right
547
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now we're in a race for artificial intelligence. It's it's
548
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US versus China. And really, whoever's gonna win that race,
549
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it's gonna be the first person that combines artificial intelligence
550
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with quantum computing. Because once quantum computing combines with AI,
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the learning power will be amplified like a thousandfold or
552
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a million. It's gonna be absolutely bonkers to where that's
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when AI becomes self learning, can self self replicate, teach itself.
554
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And whoever reaches that point first, nobody else is going
555
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to be able to catch up to it because it
556
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is going to be progressing at a rate because it
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is self learning, self teaching and all that. So whoever
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wins that race, What they're already saying is that there
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will be no more encryption. There's gonna be no more
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trade secrets, no you know, nuclear codes, anything, anything that
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is that is digitized or is in any of these
562
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databases will basically be free for all and anybody will
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be able.
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To access it.
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Okay, So so on what so from that standpoint, you
566
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would think, okay, so shouldn't we be decentralizing all of
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our data instead of centralizing into one database at least
568
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kind of slow down the enemy from accessing the information.
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But then even like besides that war that you know,
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AI war and race with China, let's think about it
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just on a practical level.
572
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Okay, So we're.
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Implementing artificial intelligence in all these different places. You know,
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Kennedy is implementing it in the FDA approval process. They're
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getting rid of animal testing they're implementing AI, and they're
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eventually going to be making it to where AI instead
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of doing real life trials, they're gonna be you doing
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AI simulated trials. So then that way, you know that,
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you know, nobody would ever have to deal with a
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side effect during a trial, and they can just run
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the simulations and then they can tell instantaneously whether this
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drug or this vaccine would work or not, and all
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that and nobody nobody's everybody's you know, saying like, oh,
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isn't this great? We can in animal testing and Pete
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is happy and all this kind of stuff, and you're
586
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just sitting here and you're like, okay, so let's actually
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sit down and think about this. So, so you're implementing
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on this level that is now making decisions. And let's
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just say that Kennedy or Trump or any of these
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different agencies that are implementing AI, let's say enter the
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Trump administration that nobody uses uses it for nefarious purposes.
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Everybody uses it exactly as you know, you know.
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That that's not gonna happen.
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Let's just say, right.
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Hypothetically, in the in this utopian world, let's say nobody
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makes a mistake with AI under the Trump administration. Okay,
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what happens in twenty twenty eight if and when Gavin
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Newsom becomes president. Now we just set up the entire
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infrastructure of artificial intelligence and the power of AI, and
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all that data now is at the hand of Gavin Newsom.
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Now now comes big Pharma. They're like, now they can
602
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rig the trials with FDA and there's no real world
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results that that we can point to. It's all simulations.
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How do you fact check a simulation? I have no idea,
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you know it when you actually think about the implications
606
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of this getting into the wrong hands, you're just sitting
607
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here and like, is nobody thinking about the possible ramifications
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of this?
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M hm, No, you're absolutely right. I mean, Mike, what
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do you think about that?
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I mean, I think they are looking examining the ramifications,
612
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and the ramifications all favor them. It doesn't favor humanity.
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It doesn't favor small I republicanism. It doesn't. It doesn't.
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It has very little contact with what humans are or
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what they need. I think it's a It's just it's
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on the road to a disaster in specific areas, and
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probably much more than that.
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Man, So let me ask you, Jeff, how many pastors
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do you deal with people in the religious circles?
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How many pastors you know speaking about this.
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I tune in once in a while to terrestrial radio
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and listen to some of these old school guys and
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new guys.
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I don't think anybody talked about it. Nobody. I mean,
625
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you know where going, Yeah, you know where this is going.
626
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Now we have the Rara Committee of Evangelicals or whatever
627
00:29:08.400 --> 00:29:10.279
who want to see you know, you have to just
628
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decimate Gaza and then decimate Iran and somehow that'll make
629
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it the magical mystery tour like the Beatles album, America
630
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will be so great in the world to be so
631
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happy and everybody. But you know, there are innocent people
632
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that are living in countries like Iran and Palestine who
633
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are being killed, children, women and children and men who
634
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are not military. I think it's disgusting that we This
635
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is really hurt for me, Jeff. We hit the two
636
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hundred and fifty mark for America and we're at a war.
637
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You could call it a conflict, whatever you want to
638
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call it, you know, but it's a war, okay, whether
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we're fighting it with what they call an ally, which
640
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is not or fighting it for them or you know whatever.
641
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You know, we're supplying Ukraine war with Iran. This is
642
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the two hundred and fiftyth Dinnaverse. This was supposed to
643
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be the big hoopla. This was supposed to be like
644
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I remember to buy Centennial, right, Mike, remember the by
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Centennial Jimmy Carter wass by Centennial, Right. So you know,
646
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we had operation Sale. You could look for it on
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Operation Sale, look for it on YouTube.
648
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The greatest sales ships from around the world came flew
649
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underneath the Verzona Bridge. We camped out there for hours, right, Jeff.
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So I mean to me it's a big letdown for
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the two hundred and fiftyth Dinniversity of America.
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Yeah, well, especially when you think about it, it's like
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it's it's an it's an unjust war. What that that
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goes against Trump's own campaign provinces when you actually think
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about it. I mean, you know, he I can't tell
656
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you like I saw multiple multiple speeches where he's where
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he was saying, you know, no more forever wars, and
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you know he could make the arguable this isn't a
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forever war because I think he I think who knows
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maybe he got overconfident with with with Venezuela and he
661
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thought he could do the same thing with Iran. I have,
662
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I have no idea, but it's but then he also
663
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pitched us on this idea of no regime change wars.
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And then now all of a sudden, then he becomes
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president again and he's now bragging that they did regime
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change in Iran, and I don't even know if they
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actually fully did so. I don't know if he's actually accurate.
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I think what they did is they reinforced the power
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of the IRGC. Right, that's the regime they put in
670
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place of what they get rid of.
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Yeah, Mike, does that sound like historically what we did
672
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in other parts of Middle East? We went over there
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to get rid of the bad guys, and we institute
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of the bad guys.
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Now, yeah, that's right, Well, we were very God, It's
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just the Middle East is such a useless place for
677
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us to be because we don't understand it. We've been there,
678
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what for seventy five years, longer than that probably, But
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if you make money, they're fine, that's good. But the
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politics of it, the religion, the social content is not
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anything that many Americans understand the idea that the Iranians
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themselves wanted us to come in there and rule is
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a fatuous foolishness. The Iranians wanted their country back from
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people who couldn't run it. Basically, the economics was always bad,
685
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the public foreign relations were always bad. But that didn't
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translate into saying, well, we want Pete Hegseth to be
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the governor general until we're ready to do it ourselves.
688
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Oh, you mean the viceroy. The viceroy, like, what's his name?
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Paul Bremer?
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Yeah, Yeah, it's an insanity. And the one thing that's
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extraordinary in the Middle East is no matter how many
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times we get our asses handed to us, we never
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seem to understand that there's a reason for it. It's
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either bad logistics or the American people are tired of
695
00:32:52.039 --> 00:32:54.799
twenty year wars or whatever it is, but we always
696
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get kicked in the ass. How in the world can
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a military who hasn't won anything since nineteen forty five
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expect to win against Iran, which apparently is far more
699
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savvy in terms of tech than we ever thought it was.
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It's backed by two superpowers, the Russians in the Chinese.
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I think it just turns out to be a slaughterhouse
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for the Americans.
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Yeah. Well, and I think I think a lot of it.
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And it was interesting because a couple of weeks ago
705
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with Pickax, actually we had we had a Biblical prophecy,
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you know, summit, and I brought together several pastors and
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Alex Newman and things like that, talking about like, what's
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going on in the world, how does how does it
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compare with with the Bible and biblical scatology and all
710
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that kind of stuff. And we had a panel and
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at the end we were talking about the what was
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happening in Iran and there's and there's there was different
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there's different theological uh you know, positions when it comes
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to Israel. And but that was that was besides the point.
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The one point that all the pastors agreed on, I
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think was Sam Jones, Mike Spalding and Brian Darrow, they all,
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they all they all agreed that what was the problem
718
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with Trump going into Iran and the way that he did,
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is he's going into it as somebody who's not a Christian,
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who doesn't understand that there is a theological religious component
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to these wars in the Middle East and he's just
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going in it strictly from a secular perspective of oh,
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regime change, then we then we then we can change
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everything and make everything better. It's like which, but you
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literally assassinated their religious leader and you don't think that
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people are going to be fired up. And then also
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and you and you made you made the point too
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that that I think was a was a great point
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as well of like it'll.
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Be it'll be a slaughterhouse.
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How how how does a country like that and how
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do all these countries in the Middle East cause so
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much problem put so many problems in these wars to
734
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where it just gets dragged on and dragged on and
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dragged on. Well, let's just go back to our the
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founding of our country. We took on the world's greatest
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superpower in England. When when when we broke away during
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during the Revolutionary War?
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Why was it?
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Because I think people felt like there was a there
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was a mission basically get given to them by God
742
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for you know, individual sovereignty and individual rights and valuing
743
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the individual and value valuing there was there was there
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was there was something more than just this political secular
745
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you know outlook, when when when it comes to the fight.
746
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There was an actual mission, there was there was something
747
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to that. And when you have your backup against the
748
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wall and you also have a religious component and motivation,
749
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you're gonna be a lot more brazen and and I
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and I think you know, you're fighting, you're fighting to
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the death, you're fighting for a cause, you're fighting for
752
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a mission. We're sending our soldiers over there, what are
753
00:35:32.079 --> 00:35:34.800
they fighting for? Like they're they're they're not under under
754
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the same with the same kind of mission or same
755
00:35:37.039 --> 00:35:39.719
kind of motivation. And I think that that's a component
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that I think our military doesn't doesn't doesn't address, and
757
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doesn't acknowledge. I don't think the White House acknowledges. And
758
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I think that that we get set up for this repeatedly,
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over and over and over again. And it's really interesting
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too because you know this, this has been really frustrating
761
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for me because you're dealing with all this stuff with
762
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like Israel, and you've get even all the conservative evangelical
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pastors and like, well, we have support Israel and anything
764
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that they do, no matter what. And I'm just like
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from a theological standpoint, like I don't I don't agree
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with like the replacement theology. I believe that is that
767
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Jewish people are God chosen people, the whole deal. But
768
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also but the main thing with that is that I
769
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believe that in the future God escleatology escatologically has a
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plan for them and in times theology, and that's fine,
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But right now I would argue that Israel is in
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sin because they've rejected the Messiah. They you know, any
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time in the Old Testament when when Israel was being judged,
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they were being.
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You get it, you got it.
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But think about like every single time that they were
777
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being everything, every single time that they were being judged,
778
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what were they doing? They were falling into homosexuality, a
779
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child sacrifice, Like you just go down the list. What
780
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are they doing right now? They have state sponsored abortions
781
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for basically any cause that you want, that the government
782
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will pay for an abortion. They've rejected, They've rejected their Messiah.
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And then also so too, like Israel just posted this
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on Twitter and I took a screenshot and I posted
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it on Pickaxe, and I was just like, what the heck?
786
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And Israel posted a screenshot of uh and then they
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said Pride rises at the lowest place on Earth. This
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June the Dead Sea becomes Pride Land, the biggest LGBTQ
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plus festival ever in the Middle East. Four days of
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NonStop celebration, community and connection. Israel celebrates its LGBTQ plus
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community bigger than ever. And then they've got a picture
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of this Pride festival that's gonna be happening at the
793
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Dead Sea, And I'm just sitting there, like, have you
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guys not read your own scriptures? Like the Dead Sea
795
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is where Sodom, Sodom and Gomora was, and you're gonna
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have a four day LGBTQ plus festival there that the
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government of Israel is now broadcasting and celebrating that's happening
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at the Dead Sea, at the location where God destroyed
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Sodom and Gomora for LGBTQ plus Like it's it's asinine.
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And then you've got these conservative evangelical like, well, we
801
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have to support Israel no matter what, and how does
802
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this make sense? Like if you have a kid that's
803
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in complete disobedience and complete rebellion, do you enable the
804
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kid or do you show you do you show that
805
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kid tough love and say like, look, dude, you need
806
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to change, you need to repent. Well, we'll be there
807
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to help you if you do change. But also like,
808
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we can't go along enabling this instead evangelical leaders, they're
809
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just enabling sinful behavior. They're enabling, you know, rejection of Christ,
810
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rejection of the Messiah. And it's like, at what point
811
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are we going to do what God did, which was, look,
812
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you're gonna go off into your sin. We'll we'll be
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over here like we're we'll be waiting with arms wide
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open if you do repent and you do change your
815
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ways and all that kind of stuff. But we can't
816
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be a part of this because you're bringing judgment on yourself.
817
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Jeff, I'm going to say something to you. We have
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this pastor who's on from time to time. You might
819
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have listened to him.
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He's ninety one years old now or ninety two going
821
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on ninety two, sixty years of a minute, and he
822
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brought something to my attention on one of the shows.
823
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He said, look like you said, God has a place
824
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for them down the road. However, the Jews have never repented.
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Remember when they said, let his blood be on our
826
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hands and our children's children. Whatever they cursed themselves, they've
827
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never repented. We have to repent us Christians. We have
828
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to repent them sin right all the time. Right, So
829
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why are they They don't have to abide by that.
830
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So that's one number two.
831
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John Hagy writes a book that Jesus didn't come as the.
832
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Messiah, and he's the pie piper. Everybody follows Hagy with
833
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the Christians United for Israel. Okay, he writes a book
834
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that Jesus didn't come to be the Messiah. Nobody pays attention.
835
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Nobody pays attention. And then I just happened to turn
836
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to doll yesterday. I'm off satellite for a while because
837
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I like satellite so much, I don't want to be
838
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on it all the time. But I went to the
839
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terrestrial AMFM, you know, listening to a local station. And
840
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who's on at this hour with sewn Ha. You won't
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believe he's pimping for Christians United for Israel. Now listen
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to the ad. The ad is the old ad that
843
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you see on TV. Remember the old ladies in the
844
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little dungeon. They were Russians. You know, you want to
845
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bring the Russian Jews to do Aliada, go back to
846
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jew to Israel. And then they took the same videos
847
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and use them for Ukraine. This poor you know Ukrainian woman,
848
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she got one egg. The paint's peeling.
849
00:40:23.960 --> 00:40:24.519
Off the wall.
850
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This is the same commercial, but it's well, it's not
851
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Christian United for Israel. It's International Jews Christian Association something. Okay,
852
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look them out. They get a hundred million in donations.
853
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Sean Hannity's doing a live a live commercial, live feed,
854
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not a commercial where you tape the you know, you
855
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hit the tape and I called Mike. I says he's
856
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pimping for this crap. There's an old lady right now
857
00:40:49.920 --> 00:40:54.079
in Israel who needs eggs, who needs bread? Your donations,
858
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I'm like, are you kidding me? With the billions we send? Now,
859
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you just talked about this Sidam mcgamoor thing. Okay, look
860
00:41:00.960 --> 00:41:03.559
it up. Anybody could look it up. You just go Israel.
861
00:41:03.920 --> 00:41:06.639
Tel Aviv is the gayest city. It's on Google. It's there,
862
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It's it's in the maybe the Haritz or one of
863
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those Jewish papers.
864
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Tel Aviv is the gayest city in the world. And
865
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where did we where did we move our embassy?
866
00:41:22.239 --> 00:41:22.480
Shock?
867
00:41:22.519 --> 00:41:25.159
I mean, I mean it makes San Francisco look look
868
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like looks like it looks like the Deep souths you know.
869
00:41:31.199 --> 00:41:34.800
I mean it's it just shows you and you know
870
00:41:34.840 --> 00:41:37.039
what the Bible says about the you know, Satan is
871
00:41:37.039 --> 00:41:38.920
the great to see with the big why and all that.
872
00:41:39.280 --> 00:41:41.880
But you have a guy like Mike Huckabee who used
873
00:41:41.880 --> 00:41:44.280
to be a pretty nice guy, you know on TV
874
00:41:44.480 --> 00:41:46.480
and he was a governor and he's, you know, the
875
00:41:46.519 --> 00:41:49.280
first week of the bombing of Gazi, he says, we got.
876
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To kill them all. Wait a minute, you're the ambassador.
877
00:41:52.199 --> 00:41:54.960
We got to kill them all, just got to kill everybody. Why,
878
00:41:55.280 --> 00:41:57.599
michae are you getting checks? What's going on here? You're
879
00:41:57.639 --> 00:42:01.400
getting like wires swifts or something everybody. And look at
880
00:42:01.400 --> 00:42:04.079
all the influences on X month, you know, Jeff, how
881
00:42:04.079 --> 00:42:07.440
many people are getting paid to do things and you know,
882
00:42:07.880 --> 00:42:11.599
promote and the ADL. I mean, it's just it's incredible.
883
00:42:11.639 --> 00:42:14.960
And just our government alone, the APAC, the A PACK,
884
00:42:15.639 --> 00:42:19.679
I mean, that's we're an occupied country, just no two
885
00:42:19.679 --> 00:42:22.719
ways about it. Remember first it was the Ukrainian pin
886
00:42:22.840 --> 00:42:23.880
with the American flag.
887
00:42:24.239 --> 00:42:27.000
Right now it's the Israeli flag and that's not even
888
00:42:27.000 --> 00:42:29.559
the Israeli flag, but that's Israeli flagged with the American pin.
889
00:42:30.199 --> 00:42:32.920
And somehow it's.
890
00:42:33.280 --> 00:42:35.840
It's our greatest ally, it's our only ally in the
891
00:42:35.840 --> 00:42:36.320
Middle East.
892
00:42:36.400 --> 00:42:38.199
Well, wait a minute.
893
00:42:38.440 --> 00:42:41.199
I've been to the Middle East and there's a country
894
00:42:41.239 --> 00:42:45.400
called UAE and they dumped over a trillion dollars investment
895
00:42:45.559 --> 00:42:50.800
in this country in technology and medical Okay, and there's
896
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going to be another one point four trillion.
897
00:42:52.400 --> 00:42:54.000
I don't know if it ever happened again because of
898
00:42:54.079 --> 00:42:56.280
the war, but there was a commitment for one point
899
00:42:56.320 --> 00:43:01.239
four trillion over five years to do you know, more partnerships.
900
00:43:01.800 --> 00:43:05.119
However, that's not the greatest ally. That's not an ally,
901
00:43:05.840 --> 00:43:08.719
right do you think about that? Okay, you could go
902
00:43:08.760 --> 00:43:11.960
to that country before the war and it was probably
903
00:43:12.000 --> 00:43:14.880
safer than any city in America at any time of
904
00:43:15.000 --> 00:43:18.840
day or night. Well, you know, Colonel Mike, is sharia law. Well, okay,
905
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it works, but it's not just sharia la. Everywhere you
906
00:43:21.400 --> 00:43:23.960
go to this Cameras it's like China. No matter where
907
00:43:23.960 --> 00:43:28.440
you go, you could leave your pocketbook, wallet, a bar
908
00:43:28.519 --> 00:43:31.840
of gold, come back tomorrow's still there. Nobody's taking it
909
00:43:31.880 --> 00:43:34.199
because they know the hand program. You know, one hand
910
00:43:34.199 --> 00:43:37.039
comes off or one hand whatever, you know. But the
911
00:43:37.119 --> 00:43:39.000
thing is, that's not an ally.
912
00:43:39.559 --> 00:43:43.079
They bought all of our military equipment that didn't do
913
00:43:43.119 --> 00:43:45.599
anything to help them in this war we ran right
914
00:43:45.679 --> 00:43:46.960
this conflict.
915
00:43:46.440 --> 00:43:47.079
Of war.
916
00:43:48.599 --> 00:43:50.519
And that's not an ally. Oh but you know Katar,
917
00:43:50.719 --> 00:43:54.599
Qatar supports Hamas. Colonel Mike Hamas is a Katar. Who
918
00:43:54.639 --> 00:43:58.519
put them there? Israel wan of them there who laudrymotted
919
00:43:58.559 --> 00:43:58.880
the money?
920
00:43:58.880 --> 00:44:01.639
Who put them the suit is there was Israel whose
921
00:44:01.679 --> 00:44:02.599
money was it ours?
922
00:44:03.360 --> 00:44:06.320
So you know, they go to Fox News and it's like.
923
00:44:07.760 --> 00:44:10.239
You take the kool aid, you know, and that's it.
924
00:44:10.480 --> 00:44:14.000
Hamas cut guitars. Quitar is the number one airline in
925
00:44:14.039 --> 00:44:17.320
the world. Excuse me, emerates number one in the world.
926
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Excuse me.
927
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You go on un an airline just from you to
928
00:44:20.639 --> 00:44:23.199
us in Washington, Lucky if you get a cup of
929
00:44:23.199 --> 00:44:28.000
water and it's plastic, right, you know.
930
00:44:28.320 --> 00:44:31.880
I think there is a genuine tie back to the
931
00:44:31.880 --> 00:44:37.280
founding in all of this is that our founders wanted
932
00:44:37.400 --> 00:44:41.119
no allies that we were dependent on. They wanted to
933
00:44:41.199 --> 00:44:45.079
trade with the world, but they didn't They wanted no binding,
934
00:44:45.119 --> 00:44:51.239
political or military ties to anyone. And now Americans think
935
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that that's a great thing. Why do you have an ally?
936
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Because you need help to survive America has never had
937
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an ally that helped us to survive. The Germans never
938
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threatened us. The Japanese attacked us, but where they were
939
00:45:07.920 --> 00:45:10.239
kicked in the ass all the way back to Tokyo.
940
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The idea that we need allies is self crippling to
941
00:45:15.119 --> 00:45:20.760
your foreign policy because you always have to think about
942
00:45:20.800 --> 00:45:22.400
what the other guy's going to say, and it really
943
00:45:22.480 --> 00:45:27.679
foreign policy is about trading and to defend yourself. And
944
00:45:27.719 --> 00:45:30.599
there's never been an occasion when we couldn't defend ourselves.
945
00:45:31.840 --> 00:45:36.480
We fought the bloodiest civil war that ever occurred up
946
00:45:36.559 --> 00:45:42.239
until that time by ourselves, and no one dared intervene.
947
00:45:42.519 --> 00:45:45.159
Well, there was money that came in, but nobody came in.
948
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Nobody personally came in, Like well, meeting.
949
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To the South, yes, but I mean, the United States
950
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is one entity, and we probably should have. We should
951
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have just let the South go and have two republics
952
00:45:56.559 --> 00:45:59.559
here and we might have been better off. But what
953
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I'm saying thing is when you go looking for allies,
954
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you go looking for certain trouble. Britain was no more
955
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of an ally of ours. They were our stepchild and
956
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probably still are in terms of what we pay for
957
00:46:13.800 --> 00:46:18.239
their military and secrets we share with them. It is
958
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it is a bad, bad business to be in the
959
00:46:21.079 --> 00:46:25.679
business of doing something because your ally needs help. Well, no,
960
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you don't go. It's in the trouble. That's tough baloney
961
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for them.
962
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Mike, I want to round us up and with Jeff
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because we didn't we didn't touch base with Jeff on us. Okay, Jeff,
964
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Jeffrey Epstein, the ally, the Ally country. I mean, what
965
00:46:45.360 --> 00:46:48.199
do you think about that we finally got the files
966
00:46:48.880 --> 00:46:49.559
and what do you do?
967
00:46:50.119 --> 00:46:54.599
I mean, right now, Iran is making fun at us
968
00:46:55.119 --> 00:46:58.400
with the legos, right they called it Epstein Fury. What's
969
00:46:58.440 --> 00:47:00.480
your take on them?
970
00:47:00.639 --> 00:47:04.320
Yeah, I mean the thing, the thing with Epstein, like
971
00:47:04.320 --> 00:47:07.360
you said, we got the files, I mean, you know,
972
00:47:07.599 --> 00:47:09.199
you know, it's it's like I remember seeing I saw
973
00:47:09.239 --> 00:47:13.360
an interview that or an episode that Brett Weinstein uh
974
00:47:13.599 --> 00:47:16.199
did on his on Dark Horse podcasts, and he's like,
975
00:47:16.599 --> 00:47:19.960
it feels like we were giving we were given a haystack,
976
00:47:20.079 --> 00:47:22.239
told to find the needle, but they extracted the needle
977
00:47:22.239 --> 00:47:24.519
from the haystack. And I feel I feel like that's
978
00:47:24.599 --> 00:47:27.480
kind of what's happened with the Epstein files. It's what's
979
00:47:27.559 --> 00:47:30.239
happened with the with the JFK files and all the
980
00:47:30.239 --> 00:47:32.960
files that we're supposed to be getting, you know, everything.
981
00:47:33.400 --> 00:47:35.360
It's it's like they give us, they give us this
982
00:47:35.559 --> 00:47:39.480
jump of information, but then they extracted the actual parts
983
00:47:39.519 --> 00:47:42.519
that actually tell us who was actually involved in why
984
00:47:42.840 --> 00:47:45.679
our government has been lying to us and covering all
985
00:47:45.719 --> 00:47:47.679
all the all these things up. And I think I think,
986
00:47:47.760 --> 00:47:50.239
I think Epstein is is definitely an example of that.
987
00:47:50.280 --> 00:47:52.199
And I think that you know, you know Epstein from
988
00:47:52.280 --> 00:47:55.199
everything I can tell. Obviously he's got you know, ties
989
00:47:55.199 --> 00:47:57.800
with massages, got ties with their own intelligence agencies, and
990
00:47:57.880 --> 00:48:00.320
you know, blackmailing people and and all that. And and
991
00:48:00.559 --> 00:48:03.400
I've been sorely disappointed in Cash, but tell them I've
992
00:48:03.400 --> 00:48:04.960
had I've had Cash on my show. I had him on.
993
00:48:05.119 --> 00:48:07.199
I had him on my show, and you know, he
994
00:48:07.320 --> 00:48:09.239
was talking a big game about how the FBI is
995
00:48:09.320 --> 00:48:11.760
corrupt in the government of gangsters. And he always talked
996
00:48:11.760 --> 00:48:14.079
about the Epstein files and how they how they have
997
00:48:14.239 --> 00:48:17.119
like literally the FBI director has the Black Book in
998
00:48:17.159 --> 00:48:18.440
his office and the whole deal.
999
00:48:18.480 --> 00:48:19.480
And then he gets in there and.
1000
00:48:19.519 --> 00:48:22.400
Completely changes his tune, and You're just like, Okay, what,
1001
00:48:22.400 --> 00:48:24.320
what the what the heck is going on? The Bongino
1002
00:48:24.400 --> 00:48:26.920
got Bungino goes in there, you know, same same thing.
1003
00:48:27.559 --> 00:48:28.599
And and I and.
1004
00:48:28.519 --> 00:48:32.159
I feel I feel like with all of this, there
1005
00:48:32.320 --> 00:48:37.000
is this story and this narrative that's happening behind the
1006
00:48:37.079 --> 00:48:39.440
behind the scenes that that I think a lot of
1007
00:48:39.519 --> 00:48:43.360
us can see, but our government can't admit. And we
1008
00:48:43.360 --> 00:48:46.400
were promised transparency. We were promised by the Trump administration
1009
00:48:46.440 --> 00:48:47.599
that they were going to get in, they were going
1010
00:48:47.639 --> 00:48:49.440
to drain the swamp, they were going to root out
1011
00:48:49.440 --> 00:48:52.039
the deep state. But like I've been saying about Epstein
1012
00:48:52.920 --> 00:48:58.559
going going way back, until we actually truly deal with Epstein,
1013
00:48:58.920 --> 00:49:01.559
and you know, his ties both with our government, his
1014
00:49:01.679 --> 00:49:04.719
ties with Masad, Was he involved with other governments, I
1015
00:49:04.760 --> 00:49:07.119
don't know. But until we actually deal with that, are
1016
00:49:07.119 --> 00:49:11.280
we actually a free society Because you know, again allegedly,
1017
00:49:11.679 --> 00:49:14.880
we're supposed to elect our our officials, We're supposed to
1018
00:49:15.000 --> 00:49:18.000
elect representatives to go represent us, to make decisions on
1019
00:49:18.039 --> 00:49:21.159
our behalf. But then if you have these agencies, whether
1020
00:49:21.199 --> 00:49:27.360
it's ours or another, that's actually using pedophilia as blackmail
1021
00:49:27.519 --> 00:49:31.000
against world leaders so that way they can then frame
1022
00:49:31.079 --> 00:49:34.639
and craft you know, world legislation and who does what,
1023
00:49:34.840 --> 00:49:36.840
and you know frame, you know what's going on in
1024
00:49:36.840 --> 00:49:39.119
the world and kind of be be that deep state
1025
00:49:39.199 --> 00:49:43.000
control until we actually deal with that, are we actually free?
1026
00:49:43.079 --> 00:49:45.239
And I think that that's that's that's that's a I
1027
00:49:45.239 --> 00:49:47.880
think the important question in all this. But but then
1028
00:49:47.920 --> 00:49:51.079
you but then you even start getting into it's like
1029
00:49:52.000 --> 00:49:54.360
you you've got so you've got the Epstein stuff over there,
1030
00:49:55.440 --> 00:49:59.039
the questions that I still have that are loose, loosely related,
1031
00:49:59.239 --> 00:50:02.960
but it's like we still don't really have the real
1032
00:50:03.159 --> 00:50:07.280
truth about what happened with the attempted Trump assassination, what
1033
00:50:07.360 --> 00:50:09.079
happened with the Charlie Kirk assassination.
1034
00:50:09.559 --> 00:50:10.440
And and you.
1035
00:50:10.400 --> 00:50:13.000
Guys can probably speak to this better than I can.
1036
00:50:13.039 --> 00:50:15.599
But when I'm looking at both of those scenarios, the
1037
00:50:15.800 --> 00:50:20.280
parallels in tactics between both of those, both that assassination
1038
00:50:20.320 --> 00:50:23.599
attempt to get President Trump and that assassination of Charlie Kirk,
1039
00:50:23.960 --> 00:50:26.320
those to me. And again I'm I'm a lay guy,
1040
00:50:26.440 --> 00:50:28.559
was never an intelligence, was never in the military anything
1041
00:50:28.599 --> 00:50:30.920
like that. But it feels to me like whoever was
1042
00:50:31.159 --> 00:50:33.920
behind it, if there was somebody behind it, was probably
1043
00:50:33.960 --> 00:50:36.280
the same person or group or entity or country or
1044
00:50:36.320 --> 00:50:39.039
you know, agency or whatever. It is because the tactics
1045
00:50:39.039 --> 00:50:42.199
were almost identical. You activate this kid on you know,
1046
00:50:42.320 --> 00:50:45.559
online on discord or whatever it is, you're you know,
1047
00:50:45.639 --> 00:50:48.960
a loaner, all all that kind of stuff. In both scenarios,
1048
00:50:48.960 --> 00:50:51.760
you had security failures, specifically so that way they could
1049
00:50:51.800 --> 00:50:55.400
get up onto onto a roof, you know, without any
1050
00:50:55.440 --> 00:50:58.800
pushback whatsoever. You know, people were alerted ahead of time
1051
00:50:58.880 --> 00:51:01.599
that hey there's a security thing here. In both instances,
1052
00:51:01.880 --> 00:51:04.960
nothing happened in order in order to secure that look,
1053
00:51:05.000 --> 00:51:08.079
to secure that location, and and you're just you're just
1054
00:51:08.159 --> 00:51:11.920
going down this this rabbit trail of just like, Okay,
1055
00:51:12.159 --> 00:51:17.719
the parallels here between both of these assassination attempts are uncanny.
1056
00:51:18.159 --> 00:51:20.079
And and so when we look, okay, so who would
1057
00:51:20.119 --> 00:51:22.440
be motivated to do that? Now, obviously there's been a
1058
00:51:22.480 --> 00:51:26.079
lot of allegations thrown out there about what was Israel behind, uh,
1059
00:51:26.119 --> 00:51:29.519
you know, the assassination of Charlie Kirk. I think there's
1060
00:51:29.599 --> 00:51:32.639
some decently compelling evidence to where we should we should,
1061
00:51:32.719 --> 00:51:36.000
we should, we should explore that. Okay, But if if
1062
00:51:35.880 --> 00:51:40.360
it does turn out that they were behind Charlie Kirk,
1063
00:51:40.840 --> 00:51:44.239
and again I don't know, but if if it does
1064
00:51:44.280 --> 00:51:47.320
turn out, I think there's legitimate question as to whether
1065
00:51:47.840 --> 00:51:50.320
they were behind the other one, because to me, it
1066
00:51:50.320 --> 00:51:52.239
seems like it was the same tactics. It was it
1067
00:51:52.280 --> 00:51:54.639
was the same people that were behind both attempts of
1068
00:51:54.760 --> 00:51:57.719
Charlie Kirk and Donald Trump. And immediately after the Donald
1069
00:51:57.760 --> 00:52:00.719
Trump assassination, what did Israel come out and say, oh,
1070
00:52:00.800 --> 00:52:04.559
this was Iran? It was like, okay, so why would
1071
00:52:04.599 --> 00:52:06.800
Iran try to take out President Trump back then?
1072
00:52:06.880 --> 00:52:07.440
At that time?
1073
00:52:07.559 --> 00:52:10.599
That makes absolutely no sense unless you're trying to get
1074
00:52:10.679 --> 00:52:13.519
us pushed into a war. And then look look where
1075
00:52:13.559 --> 00:52:15.920
we are now. So you know, there's definitely a lot
1076
00:52:15.920 --> 00:52:17.639
of questions going on with Epstein. There's a lot of
1077
00:52:17.679 --> 00:52:21.559
questions going on specifically with those assassination attempts. And I
1078
00:52:21.599 --> 00:52:24.440
feel like we're being gas lit repeatedly by the DJ,
1079
00:52:24.920 --> 00:52:27.760
by the FBI, by Cash Betel, by all these guys.
1080
00:52:28.000 --> 00:52:29.800
And at what point are we just are we going
1081
00:52:29.880 --> 00:52:31.639
to be like, Okay, we're just not going to accept
1082
00:52:31.639 --> 00:52:34.119
your answers. We we we need real answers and we
1083
00:52:34.440 --> 00:52:35.880
need to know what's really going on here.
1084
00:52:36.159 --> 00:52:37.119
Well, did you remember?
1085
00:52:37.920 --> 00:52:39.519
I think the problem with that is we don't know
1086
00:52:39.559 --> 00:52:42.199
how the Israelis control so many people in the United States.
1087
00:52:42.280 --> 00:52:42.840
Is it money?
1088
00:52:43.320 --> 00:52:46.880
Is it some kind of money? It is money, It
1089
00:52:46.960 --> 00:52:49.599
is money. It is they've caught them doing things they
1090
00:52:49.639 --> 00:52:53.760
shouldn't be doing. I think from JFK to our FK,
1091
00:52:55.119 --> 00:52:58.559
to Epstein to the all of it, you can you
1092
00:52:58.599 --> 00:53:02.719
can look at our greatest ali and there's no reason
1093
00:53:02.800 --> 00:53:05.159
to for any of that information to be blacked if
1094
00:53:05.199 --> 00:53:09.119
it wasn't too if it wasn't because there was something
1095
00:53:09.679 --> 00:53:16.119
very large and dangerous that it would break up. And
1096
00:53:16.920 --> 00:53:20.320
I you know, I don't have hard evidence on that,
1097
00:53:20.360 --> 00:53:22.119
but you know, how many times can you put up
1098
00:53:22.159 --> 00:53:23.599
with coincidences?
1099
00:53:23.920 --> 00:53:24.119
Right?
1100
00:53:25.719 --> 00:53:28.360
And and and this in the same coincidence is happening
1101
00:53:28.400 --> 00:53:33.119
across all these different instances over decades and decades and decades,
1102
00:53:33.159 --> 00:53:34.920
And I think that, you know, and again so for me,
1103
00:53:35.079 --> 00:53:36.880
like when I look at all the all those reactions
1104
00:53:36.960 --> 00:53:39.760
in in in the in the document drops to me
1105
00:53:40.880 --> 00:53:44.440
my takeaway. And again as a layperson, that's not you know,
1106
00:53:44.480 --> 00:53:47.119
in the government doesn't have intelligence experience or anything like that.
1107
00:53:47.440 --> 00:53:51.239
Like they're clearly they're covering something up. And so my
1108
00:53:51.239 --> 00:53:53.280
my theory it would be like, Okay, so it's either
1109
00:53:53.679 --> 00:53:56.760
you're covering up for an ally that was involved, because
1110
00:53:56.760 --> 00:53:59.440
that would be bad, you know, National Security egg on
1111
00:53:59.440 --> 00:54:01.639
their egg on the phase cause harm and you know
1112
00:54:01.719 --> 00:54:03.880
retribution and all that kind of stuff, you know, And
1113
00:54:04.039 --> 00:54:06.000
or there's blackmail going on, a bribery or all.
1114
00:54:05.880 --> 00:54:06.880
That costuff.
1115
00:54:08.039 --> 00:54:11.880
And or or it's our own intelligence agencies that were
1116
00:54:11.880 --> 00:54:15.639
involved with certain things, right yeah, or or.
1117
00:54:15.639 --> 00:54:16.559
A combination of the two.
1118
00:54:16.599 --> 00:54:18.480
And I think that like when you look at it
1119
00:54:18.519 --> 00:54:20.960
from that, from that perspective, I think a lot of
1120
00:54:21.000 --> 00:54:25.000
people want want one specific, clean answer when a reality
1121
00:54:25.360 --> 00:54:27.800
it could be this missmash of a variety of things,
1122
00:54:27.840 --> 00:54:30.039
whether it's our own agencies that were involved with JFK
1123
00:54:30.159 --> 00:54:32.840
or Epstein or Charlie Kirk or Donald Trump or whatever
1124
00:54:32.840 --> 00:54:35.239
it is, or it was Masad, or it was both,
1125
00:54:35.400 --> 00:54:38.639
or it was you know them plus other agencies or
1126
00:54:38.679 --> 00:54:41.159
other people other bad act There could be a variety
1127
00:54:41.159 --> 00:54:44.400
of things going on there, but clearly there's a cover up.
1128
00:54:44.440 --> 00:54:46.679
And I feel like we need the truth if we
1129
00:54:46.760 --> 00:54:49.760
actually want a free society that and we can try
1130
00:54:49.760 --> 00:54:52.320
to get us back to this some semblance of self government,
1131
00:54:52.440 --> 00:54:53.920
which I don't even know if we I don't know,
1132
00:54:53.960 --> 00:54:56.159
if I don't even know if we can anymore with
1133
00:54:56.199 --> 00:54:56.920
how deep and dark.
1134
00:54:56.960 --> 00:54:57.559
All this stuff is.
1135
00:54:58.239 --> 00:54:59.719
I want to just throw this out there.
1136
00:55:00.239 --> 00:55:03.719
As a society that calls itself a Christian nation, okay,
1137
00:55:04.280 --> 00:55:07.440
and today we're not as a Christian nation as we
1138
00:55:07.440 --> 00:55:11.360
were back in the days because we're so miss marshed.
1139
00:55:11.360 --> 00:55:14.800
Like you say, you have Hindus, Buddhists and every other
1140
00:55:14.880 --> 00:55:17.280
kind of religion we allowed in here, and they build
1141
00:55:17.320 --> 00:55:19.679
their temples and they have these big communities and so on.
1142
00:55:20.320 --> 00:55:22.920
For the most part, Muslims don't have abortions, so they're
1143
00:55:22.960 --> 00:55:26.159
going to grow. Spanish people don't have abortions mostly, and
1144
00:55:26.199 --> 00:55:29.360
they're going to grow. Okay, as white people, you know,
1145
00:55:29.519 --> 00:55:34.039
it's a whole different story. But as a people of faith,
1146
00:55:34.119 --> 00:55:37.079
a people with a conscience of faith, we have to
1147
00:55:37.119 --> 00:55:39.639
think about this. And this is what I think about
1148
00:55:39.679 --> 00:55:42.960
when I hear these IRGC guys reply with lego videos
1149
00:55:43.000 --> 00:55:45.639
and so on, which I kind of like, you know,
1150
00:55:46.159 --> 00:55:50.000
we don't hear about pedophilia there. It's probably this some
1151
00:55:50.280 --> 00:55:52.239
of course, there's homosexuals.
1152
00:55:52.280 --> 00:55:53.880
There are some, and they put them on the roof,
1153
00:55:53.920 --> 00:55:57.599
hang them whatever. Okay, but you didn't see any Iranian
1154
00:55:57.719 --> 00:56:00.400
names in the Epstein files. That's one thing. There was
1155
00:56:00.480 --> 00:56:03.000
no Runnian names. Okay, you might have seen some other
1156
00:56:03.079 --> 00:56:03.719
kind of names.
1157
00:56:04.159 --> 00:56:08.199
So you know, here we are telling a society has
1158
00:56:08.199 --> 00:56:10.760
been around, a civilization for a long time.
1159
00:56:11.159 --> 00:56:13.360
I'm gonna bomb the hell out of you. I'm gonna
1160
00:56:13.360 --> 00:56:15.280
bomb you back to whatever. I mean.
1161
00:56:15.559 --> 00:56:18.280
He's such a gross person when he does this, and
1162
00:56:19.239 --> 00:56:22.400
there's no adult in the room. But as a society,
1163
00:56:22.440 --> 00:56:24.880
America has to look in the mirror, meaning you meet
1164
00:56:24.920 --> 00:56:28.599
Mike and everybody else and say, we would not allow
1165
00:56:28.679 --> 00:56:32.320
this in our neighborhood, this pedophilia stuff. We would not
1166
00:56:32.360 --> 00:56:34.760
allow these children to be raped and tortured and so
1167
00:56:34.840 --> 00:56:38.079
on the neighborhoods I grew up in New York, Jeff,
1168
00:56:38.320 --> 00:56:41.360
people disappeared, they wound up in trunks, they wound up
1169
00:56:41.400 --> 00:56:46.199
with cement blocks or whatever. And that's just the way
1170
00:56:46.199 --> 00:56:48.760
it is. I mean you, and it's it's biblical. You know,
1171
00:56:49.760 --> 00:56:52.880
Solomon said, swift justice. It doesn't mean put them back
1172
00:56:52.880 --> 00:56:55.440
on the street for twenty more murders or twenty more
1173
00:56:55.519 --> 00:56:56.599
rapes or twenty more.
1174
00:56:56.840 --> 00:56:59.159
Right now, you have judges in.
1175
00:56:59.079 --> 00:57:03.119
America people out, you know, ten murders, twenty murders, how
1176
00:57:03.119 --> 00:57:07.079
many felonies? You know, Virginia's having this loose kind of thing,
1177
00:57:07.480 --> 00:57:10.840
and it's because Soros has instituted these district attorneys and
1178
00:57:10.920 --> 00:57:15.239
state attorney. Guys, why isn't Jeff Why isn't Soros in jail? Well,
1179
00:57:15.239 --> 00:57:17.400
maybe Soros, if you look and you peel the onion,
1180
00:57:17.440 --> 00:57:20.760
as I say, he probably financed the casino or two
1181
00:57:20.800 --> 00:57:23.360
back in the day. He probably bailed out a casino
1182
00:57:23.480 --> 00:57:26.400
owner who needed money back in the day when everybody
1183
00:57:26.440 --> 00:57:30.920
was bailing out that same casino owner. So if we're
1184
00:57:30.920 --> 00:57:33.880
going to look in the mirror as a people before
1185
00:57:33.920 --> 00:57:37.119
we throw stones right the glasshouse, and before we throw stones,
1186
00:57:37.480 --> 00:57:40.599
we have to look inside and say what do we want.
1187
00:57:40.599 --> 00:57:41.440
To be as a people?
1188
00:57:41.800 --> 00:57:45.119
I am very told I am totally upset that nobody's
1189
00:57:45.159 --> 00:57:48.320
been held accountable. And we know, we know what, we
1190
00:57:48.400 --> 00:57:51.840
know it's out there now. Who these people were, the
1191
00:57:51.880 --> 00:57:53.039
deviants and the miscreants.
1192
00:57:53.079 --> 00:57:56.000
We know names, we know the females, we know the males.
1193
00:57:56.599 --> 00:58:00.000
Nobody's been held accountable, nobody's been brought in court, nobody's
1194
00:58:00.079 --> 00:58:03.599
been hung. Now, these these are not just cases that
1195
00:58:03.679 --> 00:58:05.679
you want to go into court with a grand jury
1196
00:58:05.719 --> 00:58:08.039
and then the indictment, the grand jury and so on
1197
00:58:08.119 --> 00:58:11.280
and so forth, and then you know bail. No, we
1198
00:58:11.320 --> 00:58:14.599
want these people held accountable. And that doesn't mean the
1199
00:58:14.599 --> 00:58:17.480
rest of their life in jail. And that doesn't mean
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what Mike likes one bullet, you know, sixty cents.
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No, it means you got to do.
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A public hanging or public guillotine right outside the capitol.
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Right that's our that's our nation's capital. That's the best
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place to do it, right near the White House capital.
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You have to just make an.
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Example that we don't support this as a Christian nation,
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so called Christian nation, because we're not one hundred percent
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of Christian nation anymore and we're so far from the Bible.
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But just let's use that a Christian nation.
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Well, why don't we just have these trials because there's
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something like what happened to Bongino. Remember Jeff when he
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was when he was on radio before he went to podcasting,
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before he became big on podcasting, would always say the
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next book, I'm going to say this, and wait till
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my next book, you remember, and when I get out
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of it. And then him and Patel, it's like they
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drank the kool aid. They were interviewed within days of
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being nominated to be in the agency. So what's the
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what's our biggest problem right now? Who's our greatest ally Israel?
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What's the biggest problem in the Middle East? Who's our
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greatest ally Israel? Like, come on, you didn't even say
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nothing about America.
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I mean, come on.
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So they saw something, they know something, and they were tapped,
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as I say, tapped on the shoulder and told you
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didn't see anything.
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And that's the way, that's the way it is. We
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cannot survive like this. We have to look in the mirror.
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Be honest, if you're a person of faith, no matter
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what denomination or non denomination, God is not going to
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allow this to take place forever. And we will be judged.
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We will be judged. God judges all nations. All nations
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get judged. Look how many times remember we used well
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got it earlier, Jeff. You know when they when they
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went into idle worshiping and all the other stuff, they
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went into captivity, They went into captive and who do
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they deliver them to the Babylonians and the people over there.
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But again, the Jews don't look at Iran the way
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they should. Remember back in the days of Esther, you know,
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they intermarried, you know, the Jews are in Persia, and
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you know there's more Persian Jews there then there's probably
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in Israel.
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You know what I'm saying, if you do the bloodline.
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DNA, and remember in Israel you are not allowed to
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do DNA because everybody would come from another place.
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Right, Jeff has been good having you all close it
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up bad?
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No, I I appreciate, I just I just think it's
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like these kinds of these kinds of conversations and these
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kinds of, you know, things to dive into, I think
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are extremely important. I think that, you know, I think
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I think a lot of times it makes it can
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make a lot of people feel uncomfortable because we're kind
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of challenging the status quo, and we're challenging the two
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party system and and the and the mainstream narratives and
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all that.
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Kind of stuff.
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But these are the kinds of conversations that I need,
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because these are there's a lot of unanswered questions and
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and I don't and I don't think that there's anything
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wrong with trying to figure out what the answers to
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those questions are.
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And and you know what, whether or not it.
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Affects, you know, election cycles or you know, our favorite
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guy who got into a position or something.
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It's like, let's just deal with truth.
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Can we just deal with reality, ask questions, be intellectually honest,
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be intellectually curious.
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And I think that's important.
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It's it's what it's what we're trying to foster with
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with with Pickaxe and bringing in a diverse set of
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viewpoints and different viewpoints and host different you know, events
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and panels and debates and all that kind of stuff.
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Is just these are the kind of kinds of conversations
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that I think we need to.
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Have more of that. I feel like the powers.
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That be don't want us having so so that you know,
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I I appreciate. I appreciate this conversation immensely.
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Thank you for coming on, Mike, go ahead, Thank you, sir.
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I appreciate it. I think the one thing between Soros
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and Israel they were both a common denominator and that's
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destroying the United States. So I think they are allies
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in that way. Otherwise, you know, the Israelis go after
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guys that are ninety nine years old and who are
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guard at some camp. There's no other way to explain sorrows.
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Well, Jeff, let's just Mike let's ask Jeff that question. Jeff,
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why is he the only guy still around?
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They went after.
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Everybody, They locked him up, they put him in the egg,
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they killed them whatever. They allow him to roam. The
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devil is allowed to roam free. And Donald Trump could
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do something about it, and he won't.
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Well, I wonder, I wonder, I wonder how much of
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it is that secretly we as America government agencies whatever
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it is, have have either done work adjacent to or
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with or through somebody like Soros and and and I
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think that this is probably why so many things don't
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come to fruition, whether prosecutions or document dumps or information
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or admission of things, is because we're probably implicated either
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directly in those things or they you know, those those
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same people have blackmail and dirt on us doing very
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sinister things ourselves that.
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We that we don't want to admit.
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So there's probably this kind of like, you know, setup
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that that's going on with with somebody, let's say, with
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the Soorrows, where we've probably used.
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Him for sinister things in the past.
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Funnel money, set of foundations, set set up narratives, push propaganda,
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get the right, get people in positions, of power that
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you know, let's say an agency wants to be placed,
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so you know, if you take him down, then then
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you start pulling the thread and you start realizing, oh, well,
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we were involved with that, we were involved with that,
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we were involved with that.
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Oh that doesn't look good on us.
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So it would be better to just let him go
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about his day and and do his thing.
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Amazing. All right, that's it, guys, Well, thank you for
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another great show on two Max podcast. And here's the
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guy who helped us get on here. He put us on.
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We six years. Man, I can't believe it. Gosh, May
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it's May just next month, right.
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Yep, yeah, it's crazy.
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Hey, and never we make sure make sure you guys
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go over, go over to pick axe and follow doctor Schuyer,
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follow Colonel Mike and uh yeah, you.
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Could only find Mike on social media at Pickaxe. He's
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nowhere else, right, Mike, pretty much nowhere else.
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I can promise.
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I can promise you doctor schuer you will never be
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banned on Pickax.
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Thank you for know where you'll find him. In the
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next couple of days, he'll be on cross Talk on
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r T. We'll put that up on Pickaxe. Jeff sounds good,
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all right, by bye, thank you,