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Speaker 1: Welcome everybody to the Friday edition of the Clay, Travis and Buck Sexton Show. We have some big breaking news we're going to dive into here. Mister Clay, break it down for everybody. Ah well, here's the situation. We have a pilot or pilots rather poor down and we are looking for them right now. We don't know exactly the situation. We don't know what is happening in Iran at this very moment. We know there's a search and rescue operation underway, and we have a very obviously nervous nation wondering what is going on. And I had to run up a flight of stairs really quickly, so usually Clay would be able to help me out, but right now, apparently you are off the air. Clay, is that what's going on you? I think, as my mic cordo, there we go. Now there he is. There we go, leaving me high and dry there for a second. Why don't you talk while I catch my breath?
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Speaker 2: There is I mean, this is very serious here as we come into Easter weekend, we have got a F fifteen that has been shot down in Iran that nobody has any real updates on other than there are a lot of people trying to uh as you would well imagine, track down these two pilots, I believe is the report.
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Speaker 1: So so far.
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Speaker 2: Iran is doing everything they can, certainly to take these pilots in as hostages, and the United States is doing everything we can to try to find these individuals and bring them home safely. So we don't know a lot of other details about that except the search is underway. I hope Buck that we will have some resolution in a positive way before the program is over today. But that is probably the biggest by far new story coming out of Iran, much less significantly in terms of life or death. In the short term. We had a great report on jobs and we saw a huge amount of new jobs out there, and I actually flagged this buck, which I thought was super interesting, that we have hit the lowest number of federal employees since nineteen sixty six in this country as part of the DOGE cuts. I know there's a lot of frustration about what exactly happened and how the DOGE cuts were applied, but we have now ended up with the fewest federal employees going all the way back to nineteen sixty six. And on top of that, we added one hundred and seventy eight thousand new jobs in March, which shattered the expectations of all the economists out there and drove down the unemployment rate to four point three percent. Let me hit a couple of those news stories here. Cut one, the US economy adding nearly two hundred thousand new jobs unexpectedly one hundred and seventy eight thousand, to be exact.
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Speaker 1: The expectation was, what sixty thousand jobs, and it's one seventy eight. Wow. Yeah, Look, the job market.
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Speaker 3: Bounced back in a big way in margin. That is good news, really blowing away expectations.
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Speaker 2: Also, the Director of National Economic Council, Kevin Hassett, said, this is an absolute blockbuster number, a sign that the economy is going really well as we enter into the spring cycle.
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Speaker 1: Cut too, this is.
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Speaker 4: An absolute blockbuster number. It's one of the best numbers that you've seen in a long time. And what it shows is that all of the cumulative policies that President Trump has pushed, the no tax on tips, no tax on over times, making the Trump Old Trump tax cuts, permitted deregulation eighteen dollars in new investments in the US through our trade deals. All of that stuff, plus a big reduction in the trade deficit, has created an enormous amount of momentum for the US economy, and so that momentum cannot be upended by a temporary Middle East scurva.
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Speaker 2: Okay, so very positive there. As we are coming into the spring hiring season, I would just say buck stock market has stabilized with Iran oil and gas seems to be moving through the straight of horror moves, not at the level in which it was before, but at a much higher level than it was only a few weeks ago. I know that overall price of oil and gas has gone up because it is a global commodity, but there is no actual shortage, and given the fact that the United States is energy and dependent, a lot of those dollars are staying in the country in a way that they would not have been in years past.
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Speaker 1: But the overall trend lines.
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Speaker 2: I think, as we come in to this Easter holiday weekend, very good on the economy in general.
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Speaker 1: Based on those hiring numbers, that's absolutely true. I think the economy continues to be a place where you know it's going well, because if it wasn't, the anti Trump media would be talking about it every five seconds. It would be their single biggest focus by far, and we'd be hearing a lot about how trump andomics is a failure, or Trumpanomics is hurting the middle class, or whatever it may be. They can't even come up with ways to spin these metrics so that it looks like Trump does not know what he's doing. By the way, we also have some updates, Claire, I know you're a space guy on the Artemis launch, which I think has gotten a lot of attention from people all over the US and really around the world, and then some follow up to the Pambondi firing as well, more details on all of that, and you're even starting to see maybe we'll get into this in the third hour. The First Lady of California. Yes, Jennifer Newsom, Gavin Newsom's wife. Gavin's got a problem, which is that she is not going to be I think, particularly helpful if he's trying to connect with the heartland. So we'll get into all we'll get into all of that. But yeah, in the meantime, Clay, it's still very much just on everyone's mind. I think that the the pilots are right now behind enemy lines, and this F fifteen E that has been they're saying, i've heard both shot down, brought down mechanical failure, you know, meaning or could have come down because of mechanical failure. Do we have team can we make sure we check on that. Just up to the minute, right before we went on air, Fox was reporting that it was a downed plane, but not necessarily shot down. But the Wall Street Journal is saying shot down. There is a obviously a big difference. Sometimes a plane will malfunction is expensive in advanced as these planes are, so let's get that assessment. Also, we don't know the status of the airmen who were down, but I think Clay also and I heard this in one of the uh in some of the news coverage, people saying, well, this and they don't really know what to call the situation. This is a war. We've been saying it's a war. When you are blowing up using your military to blow up another nation's military, it's a war, and it's dangerous stuff, and it's deadly serious. And even with our superiority in military terms, we have people in harm's way. We have lost people already to enemy fire. So this, you know, this is a war. I think everyone needs to just call it what it is. I've heard uh incursion, you know excursion, uh, you know, aerial campaign. This is a war. People are dying. And you can be all in favor of this action behind the Trump administration, but just understand that this this is real and and this thing can change in a heartbeat and we can feel like, you know, all of a sudden, it's all brought home to us.
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Speaker 5: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: I think in general, there's a lot of dancing around the verbiage because of Congresses and not being involved in declaring a war, and this goes into the War Powers Act and everything else. So Trump has kind of danced around the language. But it's clear we're in an armed conflict. It's a war with whatever you want to officially call it, and but you probably more involved in.
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Speaker 1: I'm just gonna A war is a violent, prolonged conflict between organized groups, typically nation states. This is a war. So just to be clear, this is a war.
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Speaker 2: What do you think in terms of the extraction efforts that are going on right now? I would think this is by far the number one priority of everything that's going on in the Middle East. How we know that these these airplanes are very easy to track. I would be curious if we've got people out in the audience right now who may have been involved in extractions before. In fact, I bet we probably do have some of those people, given the fact we can open up phone lines eight hundred and two two two eight A two, if you guys could let us know, I would be curious.
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Speaker 1: Buck.
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Speaker 2: In general, I would presume that these soldiers have some sort of beacon that they are able to to turn on when they hit the ground. The jet obviously is likely to have ended up a substantial distance from where they are. And then to what extent are they able to find? First of all, can they land safely when they eject themselves, and we hope that they did. Secondly, to what extent can they protect themselves? Are they are they safe and secure in the sense that they're not severely injured? All of those things at play right now, I would think that we probably have pretty good communication data and would know exactly where these guys are if they're able to turn that on.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think we know where the plane is. I think we can assume we know where the plane is, but the Iranians probably also know where the plane is, and so then you get into something of a race against time where we first off, we don't know the status of the pilots. That may be intentional meeting. The Pentagon may know, but they're not yet sharing because they don't want to give any additional information to the enemy in this case. But let's assume the pilots are alive, and certainly, hopefully God willing they are. That means that we have to get to them extract them. That's priority number one, getting our guys and perhaps a gal or gals we don't know, but probably guys getting them back safely. Priority number two, Clay would be dealing.
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Speaker 2: Yes, sir, CNN is reporting that we have rescued one of the two crew on the down jet, according to sources. That literally just reported by breaking news on CNN that one of the two pilots has now been rescued by the United States.
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Speaker 1: I mean, that's certainly incredible news. We want to know about the other pilots still, but it's fantastic to get one of them back and know that that pilot is safe and sound. It is a little concerning that we have not heard about the other You would you would think they would very likely be together. But I don't. I don't want to get beyond that right now. We don't. We don't know. I mean, it's all surmising at this point, and it certainly is. I understand this is real life. These are pilots with families and their Americans, but in terms of some of the context of what this, what the response is and everything else. If you've seen I think it's behind Enemy Lines with Gene Hackman and who is the guy uh gosh, I can't remember's name right, Wilson, Owen Wilson, Luke Wilson, one of the Wilson brothers. You've seen this movie, Clay It it's based on a true story. It's based on a guy who went down during one of our Balkans, one of our Balkan wars. He got shot down and then had to evade behind enemy lines for a period of time. I forget exactly, but it's a pretty good movie and it is based on, you know, inspired by true events. But we have one pilot home, thank god, and we'll see if we can find out more about the other one. Yes, and we'll take your calls. I'm curious again.
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Speaker 2: Welcome back in Clay Travis Tuck Sexton Show. We appreciate all of you hanging out with us on this Friday, going into into a holiday weekend, many of you not working today. Again, the big report that there is an F fifteen down and we have rescued, according to sources, one of those pilots, one's still missing. That is the report from CNN that is up right now as that continues, and Buck again CNN breaking news one rescued, one's still missing from a down to F fifteen, and so this is going to, I think certainly turn into the Friday news story that is dominant in many ways. We've got a bunch of different callers. I can't believe this is the criticism. Robert in Sacramento. Your concerned that we might be giving the enemy information by discussing how we might be able to extract our pilots on this radio show.
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Speaker 1: You think they're.
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Speaker 2: Listening in Tehran and they're like, oh, let's listen to Clay and Buck and make sure we understand American military procedures.
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Speaker 5: Now.
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Speaker 7: Actually, I'm just reminding everybody that loose lifts thing ships. And I'm not suggesting that maybe you as much as some of the legacy media, but I think it's important to remember that when we have somebody on the ground and we're discussing assets, we should consider the possibilities that somebody is listening.
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Speaker 5: I too have a radio station.
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Speaker 7: That as I am listeners again te Iran.
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Speaker 2: I mean, if you know exactly the longitude and the latitude of where a potential extraction might be occurring in Iran, you should not go on on television and say, hey, this is where the missing pilot is located. Based on my sources, I think the chances of that are zero zero. And it's a big country. There are ninety million people there. The terrain potentially buck of where this could be is unlike it's not like the guy went down in Tehran. Uh So the idea that I think anybody on American media is going to somehow give away I understand not liking legacy media and everything.
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Speaker 1: Else, but come on, well yeah, I mean, also, we're talking about it because it's the number one news story in the country right now, meeting every news source on the planet is talking about it, and so I don't think we're giving away. I don't know what to tell you. If it's the front page of the New York Times, the Waltreet Journal and CNN simultaneously and it's running on Fox News, I think it's fair game. To talk about anyway. I thought that was a silly call. If I knew something about UH, specifically about the PRECEP, and was discussing them. That's one thing that would be under by the way, that there's something called classification, which I do not violate and never have and would not on this program. But I've seen movies. The Iranians have seen movies. We know that when a plane is shot down, people try to rescue the pilot. That's not there's not a big giveaway there anyway. I won't waste any more time on that. Jeffrey in Wisconsin, what's going on, Jeffrey.
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Speaker 5: Oh nothing, not much happy use or follows. You deserve it.
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Speaker 1: Thank you, yeah, thank you, thank you very much.
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Speaker 5: Just a couple of quick thoughts. As soon as I heard about the pilots being shot down, my first thought was that the Trump administration is not going to allow this in any shape, form or fashion for these individuals to be used as leverage in a hostage negotiation. If I think back to the Reagan administration, how many days the hostages were over there. The Trump administration generally moves fairly swiftly and completes their objectives, and if it's not tweed swiftly. They do go through the course and they follow their procedures and they get the people they want. It might not be right away, but in a case like this with a highly trained pilots, I think they're going to move in. They're gonna do what they have to with the resources that they have.
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Speaker 1: Well, they already got one. You heard Klay talk about that, right, They've already rescued one of the pilots reporting the CNN.
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Speaker 5: So absolutely listening to you guys talk about it.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Well, thank you, thank you very much, man, thank you for calling in. We'll continue to follow this obviously, it's breaking news. We want to hear very much. There's a second pilot that has been say we want to hear that confirmation, and we will get to that, hopefully, God willing, as soon as we possibly can.
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Speaker 1: Uh, this is a very positive story.
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Speaker 2: So we're waiting on news about the second F fifteen pilot.
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Speaker 1: We'll get to some of your calls.
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Speaker 2: But earlier this week, on Wednesday, we sent Artemis into space, and right now the astronauts are in the process of beginning to circle the moon. They are headed to the Moon right now, and one of those individuals is a black astronaut. And I think there's been black astronauts as long as I've been a love Buck. So the idea that we would have a black astronaut not necessarily a huge story, but of course because the media is obsessed with all of the identity politics laden elements.
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Speaker 1: One of them asked Artemis two.
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Speaker 2: Pilot Victor Glover about what it means to be a black man going to space, and he gave what I thought was a fantastic answer. This is cut five Victor Glover, astronaut in space now, but right before he was asked about the significance of his race as it pertains to this mission.
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Speaker 3: It is a big question, and I want to highlight. I guess maybe one facet of this is the tension I call it. I live in this, you know, this dichotomy between happiness that a young woman can look at Christina and just physicalize her her passion or her interests, or even if it's not something she wants to do, she can just be like girl power and that's awesome, and that young brown boys and girls could look at me and go, hey, he looks like me and he's doing what and that's great.
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Speaker 1: I love that.
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Speaker 3: But I also hope we are pushing the other direction, that one day we don't have to talk about these first, that one day this is just and I listen to.
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Speaker 1: This, that this is the human history.
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Speaker 3: It's about human history. It's the story of humanity, not black history, not women's history, but that it becomes human history.
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Speaker 1: It's perfect. It's a perfect answer. Ten out of ten. Could not improve. Excellent stuff. And so I liked that.
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Speaker 2: Going into Easter weekend, I also like this. This kid went viral for the CNN about why this is real. We had to believe him. But this is a fired up astronaut kid. This is producer Greg when he was eight. He's asked why he is so excited about the Artemis launch, and this is what he said.
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Speaker 1: This aired on CNN Cut six.
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Speaker 5: Why do you want to be here?
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Speaker 1: Why do you love space? Why do you love being a part of history? We're going back to the freaking moon. That's why, Uh, we may have needed to bleep that he said. He said freaking. I thought he said the F word. Am I wrong? Are we clean? Okay? All right, all right, I know he's not freaking okay, which I just said, So I believe you're allowed to say that.
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Speaker 2: Okay, I I am a get your freak on up. You could say freak, I guess I am a I Okay, he would not. I don't want to throw the kid. I thought we had to bleep the kid. Did you thought you dropped that man yourself? Are are You're you're old man.
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Speaker 1: In yourself right now by mishearing, you're like, oh, the dad nabit kid with his curse words.
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Speaker 2: That again, am I the oldest? He doesn't curse, He doesn't curse. The kid does not curse. Let's listen to him again. I totally thought he cursed. Tell me, am I just deaf?
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Speaker 1: Here?
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Speaker 5: Do you want to be here?
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Speaker 1: Why do you love space? Why do you love being a part of history? We're going back to the freaking moon, that's why. Yeah, I hear that one hundred percent as an F bomb. Freaking no. I. I hope we're right.
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Speaker 2: By the end of this show, they're gonna be taking us out in the FCC is going to show up at my door.
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Speaker 1: You know, back in olden times, when you'd have like your your man jams, you go to sleep, and you'd have the for the old man, and you have the thing you'd put up to your ear. It was like a horn, almost looked like a like a phonograph, but you stick it in your ear. We'll get you one of those, you know, I think you only he did not curse. I can't be the only person who producers in NYC New York City Squad did he There was no F bomb there.
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Speaker 2: They say it's freakin' ally so uh, but I heard it. I heard it differently, so.
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Speaker 1: You can tell you my favorite. I've had the word police come after me on this show for saying darn, under the premise that I might as well just say the other word because everybody knows what I mean. And to this I've had to respond. But I didn't say the other word, and that's the whole point. So some people have very tight rules on this stuff.
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Speaker 5: Oh.
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Speaker 2: I got accused of having too salty of a language one time when I think I use the word bottom on a show and they're like, hey, you need to watch with the salacious.
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Speaker 1: I'm serious.
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Speaker 2: When I started in radio, bottom was told to me to be a borderline word. You gotta be close when you say bottom.
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Speaker 1: You know what no one says anymore? Tush? What's wrong with tush? Now? I would? Now I would push back here for you for your behind.
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Speaker 2: People say it all the time now for football with the tush push you know, which is for anybody out there. The first down that the fill Ladelphia Eagles get with Jalen Hurts is a play where he quarterback sneaks and then someone comes running in behind him and gives him the tush push. It's legal under NFL rules to allow somebody to be pushed from behind, and that's basically an unstoppable first down getter on third or fourth down for everybody everybody out there. So tush has come back only.
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Speaker 1: In that that would not have been my first guess as to what a tush push is. So there we go. Thank you for educating me on that. Back to the the Artemis launch, so we have that brilliant answer from that that astronaut. So these guys have left low Earth orbit, right, they're on their way to loop around the far side of the moon. Everyone's as soon as you say far side of the moon, right, we're all thinking the same thing. Right, We're all are you Are you a pink Floyd guy? Oh?
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Speaker 2: I was thinking about that's a very famous song. But I was thinking about the didn't they do a Transformers where they said on the dark side of the Moon there was They did an entire premise on it being like filled with all sorts of transformerly related activities.
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Speaker 1: Far far side of the moon, dark side of the Moon. I'm saying it's close enough that I think that's what people people think of h But this is the furthest that humans have gone in over half a century, testing the Orion spacecraft for missions that will put boots back on that lunar surface aka the Moon. It is a giant leap, you could say, clay towards sustainable exploration, a new era of American leadership up in space, and there's gonna be the lunar fly by in the days. Producer, Greg, are you how are you celebrating the lunar flyby? Are you getting together with all of your space friends? You guys give me like beepepep beep space. Oh he's not in studio, all right. I was throwing him, throwing him because he's the guy who gets the special glass. He says, he is super celebrating.
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Speaker 2: He's he's out of studio today, but super celebrating. And of course the guy who took a day off to go watch the eclipse would be excited about going back to the Moon. I mean, I think he took a day off to go watch the lunar whatever's going on right now.
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Speaker 1: So you know he's remote. He's remote, but there's gonna be a splash down the Pacific on April tenth or eleventh. They're saying, Artemist two is just the beginning, my friends, Artemis three lunar landings, crude lunar landings are coming soon. We're gonna be get back on the moon. My question to you about this, Clay, My question to you, sir, will there be people claiming that this moon landing is also faked? Or will be we didn't land on the moon. People say, oh no, this one is real. We only faked the one before. I'm just like, where do the conspiracy folks go on this one?
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Speaker 2: Like?
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Speaker 1: Do you double down? It's all fake? The earth is? How committed are you to it?
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Speaker 2: Is a good question because I would imagine the technolog elogy of our ability to transmit what happens from the Moon today compared to coming up on the next strip. I mean, they're going around it this time, so they're not actually touching down. But I think the Artemis next Artemist trip, the idea is that we'll go there. And we talked with Jared Isaacman earlier this week, and he told us the goal is to have an actual moon base put in place, and so I do think that it will become impossible for the moon landing never happened people. I think a lot of them will moderate it and say, well, we didn't do it in sixty nine, but now the technology has advanced substantially. I mean, it really is kind of extraordinary. We talked about this when we talked with Isaacman. One of my favorite stats of human progress Buck is that Orville and Wilbur Wright flew airplanes for the first time. Flight became a reality in nineteen oh three in Kitty Hawk, North Carolina. Sixty six years later, we put men on the Moon, And honestly, is pretty extraordinary to think about how rapid that trajectory was from never having flown before to putting a man on the moon sixty six years and then basically we just froze, we haven't really done anything, and then Elon comes back in. I know, we did the space station. Some people always want to talk about, Oh, we built the International Space Station. Okay, we haven't been back to the moon since seventy one. I think right, and I do believe if you'd gone back to nineteen sixty nine and talked to Americans who were watching us walk on the Moon that day, and you told them, hey, where will we be in twenty twenty six. The idea that we'd be returning to the Moon and not that much progress in space travel would have occurred, I think would have been hard for them to believe. And I think again the private sector has actually been the group that has driven much of the success.
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Speaker 1: Well, SpaceX. I know that this is we're talking Arnemus and NASA, and there's also Blue Origin, is you know. I went up and checked out the Blue Origin facility. Also visited NASA the same day and saw our Secretary of War and had a whole bunch of of briefings and press conferences and things like that about all the things going on here Elon with SpaceX, and we have to go to SpaceX by the way, let's just put that on the on the show calendar. You and I have to get down there and see this. Apparently it's it's incredible. And I had an Uber driver recently speaking of Elon who just like Clay, he's gone, so he was so full tesla that he says, if I don't get a Tesla, I'm crazy. He's writ his position on it. He says, if you don't like driving, but you have to be in a car. If you don't get a Tesla, your nuts. That was his that was his take. I think that's one hundred percent correct. And by the way, for SpaceX, there is talk that is part of the IPO which is going to happen this summer, that they're going to be bringing a ton of people in UH to be able to see what the technology is and kind of roll out the red carpet, so to speak, for the investing public to see whether or not they want to jump in. But Elon views this as creating the baseline infrastructure for future space generation. In one hundred years, people will look back at what's going on right now as absolutely critical. I truly believe this. Elon believes this, So I'm really just reiterating what he's said on this. But this is when we became a really a multiplanetary species, or the beginnings of a multiplanetary species, meaning that we are going to get to Mars. These things are happening now, they are within sight. It is serious, all of the above. So it's really cool honestly, And I'm not even as into space as Clay is more into space in a civil war than me. I'm more into classical music. See, we cover a lot of ground here, you know, we have our areas of nerddom. You know what I'm reading right now, I'm reading a thousand page book. Know this because all my Kindle looked up last night. I'm like, wow, this kind of slow going, a thousand page book on the Thirty Years War. Who even sits there and reads a thousand page book of the Thirty Years War? I don't know. Weird guys like you and me, I would give. I'm glad that that author at least has a reader. Yeah, Wilson, I mean you're reading it. Think about the guy who wrote the book a thousand pages. I would love to know how many copies he's actually talk about how many hours? My book was two hundred Manufacturing Delusion, available in fine bookstores and on Amazon everywhere. My book is like two hundred and something pages. Your books are two hundred and something pages. Thousand pages? Yeah? Did you just know it in a like a library and a writing room or something for like ten years? I don't know. It's pretty amazing. Anyway, it's very interesting. One day, I'll just go on some tangent about the Thirty Years War. It's actually quite important, quite important. Here's a fun fact about it. For I shouldn't sorry, I'm going to retract that this is a fun fact is not the right word. Here's an interesting fact about it. The highest the of all of Europe, of all of Europe's wars. For the reason where this was fought primarily in Germany, including the First World War the Second World War, the highest percentage of the overall population killed. What years was this Thirty Year War for sixteen eighteen to sixteen forty eight. I didn't even know. I figured it was in that vicinity, but I didn't know for sure. You're just supposed to know how it ends with the Treaty of Westphalia, which was actually a series of a few treaties over a period of time. Anyway, nerd time another day, Legacy box, my friends. 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Speaker 1: Welcome back in to Clay and Buff So we'll take some of your calls, get some of your talkbacks today as well. It is a Friday, if you want to hear from all of you. We're obviously watching very closely the situation at the downpilot down Pilot at this point, I believe, right Clay, that one of them, yes, that reporting has not changed. US rescues crew member from Fighter jed down over Iran, one of the two person crews in US custody receiving medical care. So hopefully we'll have updates on the second and hopefully he will be home safe and sound as well. Will will continue to watch that story very closely. We also had uh there's a there's a fair a fair bit of of aftermath of the Pam Bondi situation that I think we should get to talk people talking about what happened. Here. Here is out These are on talkbacks. This is Alison This is a on the talkback list, Alison from Los Angeles. Let's hear what she has to say about it.
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Speaker 8: Go for it, Hey, this is Alison from LA I am so excited to hear about Pambondy leaving and please God Ron DeSantis coming in one support Clay on that, and like I said, not only women not vote, they should not be serving in the cabinet. There are very few that are up to that.
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Speaker 1: Alrighty, anything on that one, Claire, are you just like yeah, there you go?
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Speaker 8: No?
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Speaker 2: I mean, look, there seems to be if I were assessing it, Mike Lee seems to be the choice if they go into the Senate. We've had Senator Mike Lee on from Utah quite a bit and he was one of the finalists for Attorney General last time. So if they choose to go outside of the cabinet, Lee Zelden is the favorite there, then I think that's probably the direction they would go in the Senate.
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Speaker 1: He would be confirmed with the ease and I think you do a great job as Attorney General. D podcast listener Neil in North Carolina. Let's hear from Neil.
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Speaker 9: I just wanted to comment on the Democrat you guys interviewed today. I really appreciate you did that. I think that you should have more Democrats on if they're willing, not because we need to hear what they had to say, but because this maybe wouldn't the only places they will actually get asked hard questions and they will have to actually go on record and answer them.
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Speaker 1: I agree.
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Speaker 2: I look, I don't think most of those guys in gals will come on. But the feedback that I saw, and I know there's feedback everywhere you can find whatever you want, people seem to enjoy that he came on. And you know, again, when you say I voted for Kamala, I think for a lot of you, that's not a that's a disqualifying part. But he made his case, and I give him credit for willing to come on when a lot of Democrats would And we'll come back. Take more of your calls Friday at
Speaker 1: Welcome everybody to the Friday edition of the Clay, Travis and Buck Sexton Show. We have some big breaking news we're going to dive into here. Mister Clay, break it down for everybody. Ah well, here's the situation. We have a pilot or pilots rather poor down and we are looking for them right now. We don't know exactly the situation. We don't know what is happening in Iran at this very moment. We know there's a search and rescue operation underway, and we have a very obviously nervous nation wondering what is going on. And I had to run up a flight of stairs really quickly, so usually Clay would be able to help me out, but right now, apparently you are off the air. Clay, is that what's going on you? I think, as my mic cordo, there we go. Now there he is. There we go, leaving me high and dry there for a second. Why don't you talk while I catch my breath?
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Speaker 2: There is I mean, this is very serious here as we come into Easter weekend, we have got a F fifteen that has been shot down in Iran that nobody has any real updates on other than there are a lot of people trying to uh as you would well imagine, track down these two pilots, I believe is the report.
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Speaker 1: So so far.
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Speaker 2: Iran is doing everything they can, certainly to take these pilots in as hostages, and the United States is doing everything we can to try to find these individuals and bring them home safely. So we don't know a lot of other details about that except the search is underway. I hope Buck that we will have some resolution in a positive way before the program is over today. But that is probably the biggest by far new story coming out of Iran, much less significantly in terms of life or death. In the short term. We had a great report on jobs and we saw a huge amount of new jobs out there, and I actually flagged this buck, which I thought was super interesting, that we have hit the lowest number of federal employees since nineteen sixty six in this country as part of the DOGE cuts. I know there's a lot of frustration about what exactly happened and how the DOGE cuts were applied, but we have now ended up with the fewest federal employees going all the way back to nineteen sixty six. And on top of that, we added one hundred and seventy eight thousand new jobs in March, which shattered the expectations of all the economists out there and drove down the unemployment rate to four point three percent. Let me hit a couple of those news stories here. Cut one, the US economy adding nearly two hundred thousand new jobs unexpectedly one hundred and seventy eight thousand, to be exact.
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Speaker 1: The expectation was, what sixty thousand jobs, and it's one seventy eight. Wow. Yeah, Look, the job market.
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Speaker 3: Bounced back in a big way in margin. That is good news, really blowing away expectations.
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Speaker 2: Also, the Director of National Economic Council, Kevin Hassett, said, this is an absolute blockbuster number, a sign that the economy is going really well as we enter into the spring cycle.
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Speaker 1: Cut too, this is.
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Speaker 4: An absolute blockbuster number. It's one of the best numbers that you've seen in a long time. And what it shows is that all of the cumulative policies that President Trump has pushed, the no tax on tips, no tax on over times, making the Trump Old Trump tax cuts, permitted deregulation eighteen dollars in new investments in the US through our trade deals. All of that stuff, plus a big reduction in the trade deficit, has created an enormous amount of momentum for the US economy, and so that momentum cannot be upended by a temporary Middle East scurva.
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Speaker 2: Okay, so very positive there. As we are coming into the spring hiring season, I would just say buck stock market has stabilized with Iran oil and gas seems to be moving through the straight of horror moves, not at the level in which it was before, but at a much higher level than it was only a few weeks ago. I know that overall price of oil and gas has gone up because it is a global commodity, but there is no actual shortage, and given the fact that the United States is energy and dependent, a lot of those dollars are staying in the country in a way that they would not have been in years past.
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Speaker 1: But the overall trend lines.
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Speaker 2: I think, as we come in to this Easter holiday weekend, very good on the economy in general.
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Speaker 1: Based on those hiring numbers, that's absolutely true. I think the economy continues to be a place where you know it's going well, because if it wasn't, the anti Trump media would be talking about it every five seconds. It would be their single biggest focus by far, and we'd be hearing a lot about how trump andomics is a failure, or Trumpanomics is hurting the middle class, or whatever it may be. They can't even come up with ways to spin these metrics so that it looks like Trump does not know what he's doing. By the way, we also have some updates, Claire, I know you're a space guy on the Artemis launch, which I think has gotten a lot of attention from people all over the US and really around the world, and then some follow up to the Pambondi firing as well, more details on all of that, and you're even starting to see maybe we'll get into this in the third hour. The First Lady of California. Yes, Jennifer Newsom, Gavin Newsom's wife. Gavin's got a problem, which is that she is not going to be I think, particularly helpful if he's trying to connect with the heartland. So we'll get into all we'll get into all of that. But yeah, in the meantime, Clay, it's still very much just on everyone's mind. I think that the the pilots are right now behind enemy lines, and this F fifteen E that has been they're saying, i've heard both shot down, brought down mechanical failure, you know, meaning or could have come down because of mechanical failure. Do we have team can we make sure we check on that. Just up to the minute, right before we went on air, Fox was reporting that it was a downed plane, but not necessarily shot down. But the Wall Street Journal is saying shot down. There is a obviously a big difference. Sometimes a plane will malfunction is expensive in advanced as these planes are, so let's get that assessment. Also, we don't know the status of the airmen who were down, but I think Clay also and I heard this in one of the uh in some of the news coverage, people saying, well, this and they don't really know what to call the situation. This is a war. We've been saying it's a war. When you are blowing up using your military to blow up another nation's military, it's a war, and it's dangerous stuff, and it's deadly serious. And even with our superiority in military terms, we have people in harm's way. We have lost people already to enemy fire. So this, you know, this is a war. I think everyone needs to just call it what it is. I've heard uh incursion, you know excursion, uh, you know, aerial campaign. This is a war. People are dying. And you can be all in favor of this action behind the Trump administration, but just understand that this this is real and and this thing can change in a heartbeat and we can feel like, you know, all of a sudden, it's all brought home to us.
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Speaker 5: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: I think in general, there's a lot of dancing around the verbiage because of Congresses and not being involved in declaring a war, and this goes into the War Powers Act and everything else. So Trump has kind of danced around the language. But it's clear we're in an armed conflict. It's a war with whatever you want to officially call it, and but you probably more involved in.
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Speaker 1: I'm just gonna A war is a violent, prolonged conflict between organized groups, typically nation states. This is a war. So just to be clear, this is a war.
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Speaker 2: What do you think in terms of the extraction efforts that are going on right now? I would think this is by far the number one priority of everything that's going on in the Middle East. How we know that these these airplanes are very easy to track. I would be curious if we've got people out in the audience right now who may have been involved in extractions before. In fact, I bet we probably do have some of those people, given the fact we can open up phone lines eight hundred and two two two eight A two, if you guys could let us know, I would be curious.
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Speaker 1: Buck.
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Speaker 2: In general, I would presume that these soldiers have some sort of beacon that they are able to to turn on when they hit the ground. The jet obviously is likely to have ended up a substantial distance from where they are. And then to what extent are they able to find? First of all, can they land safely when they eject themselves, and we hope that they did. Secondly, to what extent can they protect themselves? Are they are they safe and secure in the sense that they're not severely injured? All of those things at play right now, I would think that we probably have pretty good communication data and would know exactly where these guys are if they're able to turn that on.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think we know where the plane is. I think we can assume we know where the plane is, but the Iranians probably also know where the plane is, and so then you get into something of a race against time where we first off, we don't know the status of the pilots. That may be intentional meeting. The Pentagon may know, but they're not yet sharing because they don't want to give any additional information to the enemy in this case. But let's assume the pilots are alive, and certainly, hopefully God willing they are. That means that we have to get to them extract them. That's priority number one, getting our guys and perhaps a gal or gals we don't know, but probably guys getting them back safely. Priority number two, Clay would be dealing.
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Speaker 2: Yes, sir, CNN is reporting that we have rescued one of the two crew on the down jet, according to sources. That literally just reported by breaking news on CNN that one of the two pilots has now been rescued by the United States.
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Speaker 1: I mean, that's certainly incredible news. We want to know about the other pilots still, but it's fantastic to get one of them back and know that that pilot is safe and sound. It is a little concerning that we have not heard about the other You would you would think they would very likely be together. But I don't. I don't want to get beyond that right now. We don't. We don't know. I mean, it's all surmising at this point, and it certainly is. I understand this is real life. These are pilots with families and their Americans, but in terms of some of the context of what this, what the response is and everything else. If you've seen I think it's behind Enemy Lines with Gene Hackman and who is the guy uh gosh, I can't remember's name right, Wilson, Owen Wilson, Luke Wilson, one of the Wilson brothers. You've seen this movie, Clay It it's based on a true story. It's based on a guy who went down during one of our Balkans, one of our Balkan wars. He got shot down and then had to evade behind enemy lines for a period of time. I forget exactly, but it's a pretty good movie and it is based on, you know, inspired by true events. But we have one pilot home, thank god, and we'll see if we can find out more about the other one. Yes, and we'll take your calls. I'm curious again.
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Speaker 2: Welcome back in Clay Travis Tuck Sexton Show. We appreciate all of you hanging out with us on this Friday, going into into a holiday weekend, many of you not working today. Again, the big report that there is an F fifteen down and we have rescued, according to sources, one of those pilots, one's still missing. That is the report from CNN that is up right now as that continues, and Buck again CNN breaking news one rescued, one's still missing from a down to F fifteen, and so this is going to, I think certainly turn into the Friday news story that is dominant in many ways. We've got a bunch of different callers. I can't believe this is the criticism. Robert in Sacramento. Your concerned that we might be giving the enemy information by discussing how we might be able to extract our pilots on this radio show.
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Speaker 1: You think they're.
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Speaker 2: Listening in Tehran and they're like, oh, let's listen to Clay and Buck and make sure we understand American military procedures.
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Speaker 5: Now.
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Speaker 7: Actually, I'm just reminding everybody that loose lifts thing ships. And I'm not suggesting that maybe you as much as some of the legacy media, but I think it's important to remember that when we have somebody on the ground and we're discussing assets, we should consider the possibilities that somebody is listening.
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Speaker 5: I too have a radio station.
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Speaker 7: That as I am listeners again te Iran.
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Speaker 2: I mean, if you know exactly the longitude and the latitude of where a potential extraction might be occurring in Iran, you should not go on on television and say, hey, this is where the missing pilot is located. Based on my sources, I think the chances of that are zero zero. And it's a big country. There are ninety million people there. The terrain potentially buck of where this could be is unlike it's not like the guy went down in Tehran. Uh So the idea that I think anybody on American media is going to somehow give away I understand not liking legacy media and everything.
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Speaker 1: Else, but come on, well yeah, I mean, also, we're talking about it because it's the number one news story in the country right now, meeting every news source on the planet is talking about it, and so I don't think we're giving away. I don't know what to tell you. If it's the front page of the New York Times, the Waltreet Journal and CNN simultaneously and it's running on Fox News, I think it's fair game. To talk about anyway. I thought that was a silly call. If I knew something about UH, specifically about the PRECEP, and was discussing them. That's one thing that would be under by the way, that there's something called classification, which I do not violate and never have and would not on this program. But I've seen movies. The Iranians have seen movies. We know that when a plane is shot down, people try to rescue the pilot. That's not there's not a big giveaway there anyway. I won't waste any more time on that. Jeffrey in Wisconsin, what's going on, Jeffrey.
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Speaker 5: Oh nothing, not much happy use or follows. You deserve it.
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Speaker 1: Thank you, yeah, thank you, thank you very much.
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Speaker 5: Just a couple of quick thoughts. As soon as I heard about the pilots being shot down, my first thought was that the Trump administration is not going to allow this in any shape, form or fashion for these individuals to be used as leverage in a hostage negotiation. If I think back to the Reagan administration, how many days the hostages were over there. The Trump administration generally moves fairly swiftly and completes their objectives, and if it's not tweed swiftly. They do go through the course and they follow their procedures and they get the people they want. It might not be right away, but in a case like this with a highly trained pilots, I think they're going to move in. They're gonna do what they have to with the resources that they have.
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Speaker 1: Well, they already got one. You heard Klay talk about that, right, They've already rescued one of the pilots reporting the CNN.
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Speaker 5: So absolutely listening to you guys talk about it.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Well, thank you, thank you very much, man, thank you for calling in. We'll continue to follow this obviously, it's breaking news. We want to hear very much. There's a second pilot that has been say we want to hear that confirmation, and we will get to that, hopefully, God willing, as soon as we possibly can.
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Speaker 1: Uh, this is a very positive story.
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Speaker 2: So we're waiting on news about the second F fifteen pilot.
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Speaker 1: We'll get to some of your calls.
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Speaker 2: But earlier this week, on Wednesday, we sent Artemis into space, and right now the astronauts are in the process of beginning to circle the moon. They are headed to the Moon right now, and one of those individuals is a black astronaut. And I think there's been black astronauts as long as I've been a love Buck. So the idea that we would have a black astronaut not necessarily a huge story, but of course because the media is obsessed with all of the identity politics laden elements.
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Speaker 1: One of them asked Artemis two.
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Speaker 2: Pilot Victor Glover about what it means to be a black man going to space, and he gave what I thought was a fantastic answer. This is cut five Victor Glover, astronaut in space now, but right before he was asked about the significance of his race as it pertains to this mission.
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Speaker 3: It is a big question, and I want to highlight. I guess maybe one facet of this is the tension I call it. I live in this, you know, this dichotomy between happiness that a young woman can look at Christina and just physicalize her her passion or her interests, or even if it's not something she wants to do, she can just be like girl power and that's awesome, and that young brown boys and girls could look at me and go, hey, he looks like me and he's doing what and that's great.
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Speaker 1: I love that.
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Speaker 3: But I also hope we are pushing the other direction, that one day we don't have to talk about these first, that one day this is just and I listen to.
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Speaker 1: This, that this is the human history.
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Speaker 3: It's about human history. It's the story of humanity, not black history, not women's history, but that it becomes human history.
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Speaker 1: It's perfect. It's a perfect answer. Ten out of ten. Could not improve. Excellent stuff. And so I liked that.
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Speaker 2: Going into Easter weekend, I also like this. This kid went viral for the CNN about why this is real. We had to believe him. But this is a fired up astronaut kid. This is producer Greg when he was eight. He's asked why he is so excited about the Artemis launch, and this is what he said.
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Speaker 1: This aired on CNN Cut six.
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Speaker 5: Why do you want to be here?
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Speaker 1: Why do you love space? Why do you love being a part of history? We're going back to the freaking moon. That's why, Uh, we may have needed to bleep that he said. He said freaking. I thought he said the F word. Am I wrong? Are we clean? Okay? All right, all right, I know he's not freaking okay, which I just said, So I believe you're allowed to say that.
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Speaker 2: Okay, I I am a get your freak on up. You could say freak, I guess I am a I Okay, he would not. I don't want to throw the kid. I thought we had to bleep the kid. Did you thought you dropped that man yourself? Are are You're you're old man.
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Speaker 1: In yourself right now by mishearing, you're like, oh, the dad nabit kid with his curse words.
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Speaker 2: That again, am I the oldest? He doesn't curse, He doesn't curse. The kid does not curse. Let's listen to him again. I totally thought he cursed. Tell me, am I just deaf?
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Speaker 1: Here?
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Speaker 5: Do you want to be here?
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Speaker 1: Why do you love space? Why do you love being a part of history? We're going back to the freaking moon, that's why. Yeah, I hear that one hundred percent as an F bomb. Freaking no. I. I hope we're right.
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Speaker 2: By the end of this show, they're gonna be taking us out in the FCC is going to show up at my door.
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Speaker 1: You know, back in olden times, when you'd have like your your man jams, you go to sleep, and you'd have the for the old man, and you have the thing you'd put up to your ear. It was like a horn, almost looked like a like a phonograph, but you stick it in your ear. We'll get you one of those, you know, I think you only he did not curse. I can't be the only person who producers in NYC New York City Squad did he There was no F bomb there.
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Speaker 2: They say it's freakin' ally so uh, but I heard it. I heard it differently, so.
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Speaker 1: You can tell you my favorite. I've had the word police come after me on this show for saying darn, under the premise that I might as well just say the other word because everybody knows what I mean. And to this I've had to respond. But I didn't say the other word, and that's the whole point. So some people have very tight rules on this stuff.
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Speaker 5: Oh.
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Speaker 2: I got accused of having too salty of a language one time when I think I use the word bottom on a show and they're like, hey, you need to watch with the salacious.
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Speaker 1: I'm serious.
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Speaker 2: When I started in radio, bottom was told to me to be a borderline word. You gotta be close when you say bottom.
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Speaker 1: You know what no one says anymore? Tush? What's wrong with tush? Now? I would? Now I would push back here for you for your behind.
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Speaker 2: People say it all the time now for football with the tush push you know, which is for anybody out there. The first down that the fill Ladelphia Eagles get with Jalen Hurts is a play where he quarterback sneaks and then someone comes running in behind him and gives him the tush push. It's legal under NFL rules to allow somebody to be pushed from behind, and that's basically an unstoppable first down getter on third or fourth down for everybody everybody out there. So tush has come back only.
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Speaker 1: In that that would not have been my first guess as to what a tush push is. So there we go. Thank you for educating me on that. Back to the the Artemis launch, so we have that brilliant answer from that that astronaut. So these guys have left low Earth orbit, right, they're on their way to loop around the far side of the moon. Everyone's as soon as you say far side of the moon, right, we're all thinking the same thing. Right, We're all are you Are you a pink Floyd guy? Oh?
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Speaker 2: I was thinking about that's a very famous song. But I was thinking about the didn't they do a Transformers where they said on the dark side of the Moon there was They did an entire premise on it being like filled with all sorts of transformerly related activities.
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Speaker 1: Far far side of the moon, dark side of the Moon. I'm saying it's close enough that I think that's what people people think of h But this is the furthest that humans have gone in over half a century, testing the Orion spacecraft for missions that will put boots back on that lunar surface aka the Moon. It is a giant leap, you could say, clay towards sustainable exploration, a new era of American leadership up in space, and there's gonna be the lunar fly by in the days. Producer, Greg, are you how are you celebrating the lunar flyby? Are you getting together with all of your space friends? You guys give me like beepepep beep space. Oh he's not in studio, all right. I was throwing him, throwing him because he's the guy who gets the special glass. He says, he is super celebrating.
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Speaker 2: He's he's out of studio today, but super celebrating. And of course the guy who took a day off to go watch the eclipse would be excited about going back to the Moon. I mean, I think he took a day off to go watch the lunar whatever's going on right now.
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Speaker 1: So you know he's remote. He's remote, but there's gonna be a splash down the Pacific on April tenth or eleventh. They're saying, Artemist two is just the beginning, my friends, Artemis three lunar landings, crude lunar landings are coming soon. We're gonna be get back on the moon. My question to you about this, Clay, My question to you, sir, will there be people claiming that this moon landing is also faked? Or will be we didn't land on the moon. People say, oh no, this one is real. We only faked the one before. I'm just like, where do the conspiracy folks go on this one?
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Speaker 2: Like?
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Speaker 1: Do you double down? It's all fake? The earth is? How committed are you to it?
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Speaker 2: Is a good question because I would imagine the technolog elogy of our ability to transmit what happens from the Moon today compared to coming up on the next strip. I mean, they're going around it this time, so they're not actually touching down. But I think the Artemis next Artemist trip, the idea is that we'll go there. And we talked with Jared Isaacman earlier this week, and he told us the goal is to have an actual moon base put in place, and so I do think that it will become impossible for the moon landing never happened people. I think a lot of them will moderate it and say, well, we didn't do it in sixty nine, but now the technology has advanced substantially. I mean, it really is kind of extraordinary. We talked about this when we talked with Isaacman. One of my favorite stats of human progress Buck is that Orville and Wilbur Wright flew airplanes for the first time. Flight became a reality in nineteen oh three in Kitty Hawk, North Carolina. Sixty six years later, we put men on the Moon, And honestly, is pretty extraordinary to think about how rapid that trajectory was from never having flown before to putting a man on the moon sixty six years and then basically we just froze, we haven't really done anything, and then Elon comes back in. I know, we did the space station. Some people always want to talk about, Oh, we built the International Space Station. Okay, we haven't been back to the moon since seventy one. I think right, and I do believe if you'd gone back to nineteen sixty nine and talked to Americans who were watching us walk on the Moon that day, and you told them, hey, where will we be in twenty twenty six. The idea that we'd be returning to the Moon and not that much progress in space travel would have occurred, I think would have been hard for them to believe. And I think again the private sector has actually been the group that has driven much of the success.
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Speaker 1: Well, SpaceX. I know that this is we're talking Arnemus and NASA, and there's also Blue Origin, is you know. I went up and checked out the Blue Origin facility. Also visited NASA the same day and saw our Secretary of War and had a whole bunch of of briefings and press conferences and things like that about all the things going on here Elon with SpaceX, and we have to go to SpaceX by the way, let's just put that on the on the show calendar. You and I have to get down there and see this. Apparently it's it's incredible. And I had an Uber driver recently speaking of Elon who just like Clay, he's gone, so he was so full tesla that he says, if I don't get a Tesla, I'm crazy. He's writ his position on it. He says, if you don't like driving, but you have to be in a car. If you don't get a Tesla, your nuts. That was his that was his take. I think that's one hundred percent correct. And by the way, for SpaceX, there is talk that is part of the IPO which is going to happen this summer, that they're going to be bringing a ton of people in UH to be able to see what the technology is and kind of roll out the red carpet, so to speak, for the investing public to see whether or not they want to jump in. But Elon views this as creating the baseline infrastructure for future space generation. In one hundred years, people will look back at what's going on right now as absolutely critical. I truly believe this. Elon believes this, So I'm really just reiterating what he's said on this. But this is when we became a really a multiplanetary species, or the beginnings of a multiplanetary species, meaning that we are going to get to Mars. These things are happening now, they are within sight. It is serious, all of the above. So it's really cool honestly, And I'm not even as into space as Clay is more into space in a civil war than me. I'm more into classical music. See, we cover a lot of ground here, you know, we have our areas of nerddom. You know what I'm reading right now, I'm reading a thousand page book. Know this because all my Kindle looked up last night. I'm like, wow, this kind of slow going, a thousand page book on the Thirty Years War. Who even sits there and reads a thousand page book of the Thirty Years War? I don't know. Weird guys like you and me, I would give. I'm glad that that author at least has a reader. Yeah, Wilson, I mean you're reading it. Think about the guy who wrote the book a thousand pages. I would love to know how many copies he's actually talk about how many hours? My book was two hundred Manufacturing Delusion, available in fine bookstores and on Amazon everywhere. My book is like two hundred and something pages. Your books are two hundred and something pages. Thousand pages? Yeah? Did you just know it in a like a library and a writing room or something for like ten years? I don't know. It's pretty amazing. Anyway, it's very interesting. One day, I'll just go on some tangent about the Thirty Years War. It's actually quite important, quite important. Here's a fun fact about it. For I shouldn't sorry, I'm going to retract that this is a fun fact is not the right word. Here's an interesting fact about it. The highest the of all of Europe, of all of Europe's wars. For the reason where this was fought primarily in Germany, including the First World War the Second World War, the highest percentage of the overall population killed. What years was this Thirty Year War for sixteen eighteen to sixteen forty eight. I didn't even know. I figured it was in that vicinity, but I didn't know for sure. You're just supposed to know how it ends with the Treaty of Westphalia, which was actually a series of a few treaties over a period of time. Anyway, nerd time another day, Legacy box, my friends. 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Speaker 1: Welcome back in to Clay and Buff So we'll take some of your calls, get some of your talkbacks today as well. It is a Friday, if you want to hear from all of you. We're obviously watching very closely the situation at the downpilot down Pilot at this point, I believe, right Clay, that one of them, yes, that reporting has not changed. US rescues crew member from Fighter jed down over Iran, one of the two person crews in US custody receiving medical care. So hopefully we'll have updates on the second and hopefully he will be home safe and sound as well. Will will continue to watch that story very closely. We also had uh there's a there's a fair a fair bit of of aftermath of the Pam Bondi situation that I think we should get to talk people talking about what happened. Here. Here is out These are on talkbacks. This is Alison This is a on the talkback list, Alison from Los Angeles. Let's hear what she has to say about it.
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Speaker 8: Go for it, Hey, this is Alison from LA I am so excited to hear about Pambondy leaving and please God Ron DeSantis coming in one support Clay on that, and like I said, not only women not vote, they should not be serving in the cabinet. There are very few that are up to that.
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Speaker 1: Alrighty, anything on that one, Claire, are you just like yeah, there you go?
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Speaker 8: No?
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Speaker 2: I mean, look, there seems to be if I were assessing it, Mike Lee seems to be the choice if they go into the Senate. We've had Senator Mike Lee on from Utah quite a bit and he was one of the finalists for Attorney General last time. So if they choose to go outside of the cabinet, Lee Zelden is the favorite there, then I think that's probably the direction they would go in the Senate.
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Speaker 1: He would be confirmed with the ease and I think you do a great job as Attorney General. D podcast listener Neil in North Carolina. Let's hear from Neil.
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Speaker 9: I just wanted to comment on the Democrat you guys interviewed today. I really appreciate you did that. I think that you should have more Democrats on if they're willing, not because we need to hear what they had to say, but because this maybe wouldn't the only places they will actually get asked hard questions and they will have to actually go on record and answer them.
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Speaker 1: I agree.
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Speaker 2: I look, I don't think most of those guys in gals will come on. But the feedback that I saw, and I know there's feedback everywhere you can find whatever you want, people seem to enjoy that he came on. And you know, again, when you say I voted for Kamala, I think for a lot of you, that's not a that's a disqualifying part. But he made his case, and I give him credit for willing to come on when a lot of Democrats would And we'll come back. Take more of your calls Friday at
