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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Hammer in Nigel show a ninety three WIDC. My name is Nigel Jason Hammer right over there goes straight to the hot line and bring on bright Bard News National Security deputy editor John Hayward, the best in the business at breaking it down. Donald Trump saying, Iran, Hey, they opened up the straight of her mews. Do we trust what Iran is doing? Is it open? Give us the latest on the United States and Iran and we where we're at with this war.
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Speaker 2: Well, I don't trust Iran very much, and I'll completely believe the Strait of Hormuz is safe when I see a buckets open up there in the meantime. Yeah, it's it's looking good. I mean this really does look and looks can be deceiving, we'll see, but it really does look like a complete defeat for Iran. According to Trump, they've agreed to everything he's demanded of them. They've agreed to stop their nuclear weapons program, They're going to stop enriching uranium. They opened the Strait of Hormuz, and this parting to be true because Iran announced it. They opened the Strait of Hormos while the blockade on their ports is still in effect, that's losing a war.
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Speaker 3: And it feels like, though John, we've heard this before, the President's been saying it feels like for over a week now, we're close, very close. How much of an impact was that ceasefire between the Israelis and Lebanon a part of this?
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Speaker 2: That is the one concession that might be in the mix here, because Iran was very insistent that they wanted that ceasefire as part of any agreement. That they even insisted that the ceasefire last weekend included it. But it didn't. You know, they had to yield on that. But they really wanted the fighting in Lebanon to stop. But in fairness, so did Trump. He made no secret of the fact that he wasn't happy with how that was going over in Lebanon. A lot of people in Lebanon, of course, very unhappy with the Israelis intensively bombing the area. It was very dicey, and I know Israel didn't want to stop. They publicly said they weren't finished yet. But I think that was part of the package and a not unreasonable part of it if the rest of this holds together.
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Speaker 3: Am I wrong in thinking the President may have been a little frustrated with our ally in Israel because when he called for that ceasefire between the US and Iran, like the moment that happened, the Israelis started bombing again. They were like, hold on here, We're not really a part of this. It kind of felt like Trump was a little irritated with that. Am I alone in thinking that.
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Speaker 2: I think that's probably true. He doesn't hide when he's irritated. Trump doesn't, so you could kind of tell he was a little impatient with all of that. He wanted a unified solution to all of this, and the war in Lebanon was very difficult. It with a lot of civilians are in the way, a lot of people displaced, a lot of people killed by the bombing going on there. Israel said all that was necessary because they keep getting attacked by Hisbola and they've lost faith in the ability of the Lebanese government or the desire to actually disarm that terrorist organization. And I suspect part of Trump's pitch in that Yahoo was to say that if the rest of this settles down with Iran and we get what we want, they're so weak now they can't support Hasbola anymore. They're going to fade as a threat if you just stick with me on this, and I think Netnyahu at least is willing to try that. But I know a lot of the visuals in Israel were very surprised when Trump rolled out and said Levanon operation was over. They didn't see that coming.
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Speaker 1: Is the United States still bombing Iran or is that done at the moment.
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Speaker 2: No, aside from the blockade, I don't think we've had to shoot anybody to enforce the blockade. The blockade is still in effect. And that was the game changer, no doubt at all. As soon as that blockade began on Tuesday, Iran pretty much rolled over and died. I mean it was a matter of twenty four hours that all their resistance faded away.
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Speaker 1: I am seeing some headlines certain other websites and giant read letters Donald Trump giving twenty billion dollar cash reward to Iran for opening the straight Is there any truth to that?
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Speaker 2: Well, we don't know all the details yet, It's possible that they got For example, Iran has a lot of assets frozen in banks across the Middle East. Trump might have agreed to unfreeze some of that conditional on their good behavior, but we don't know yet.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's gone to fruits social and he's denied some of these reports. But Axios, I think, was the first one to throw it out there that that frozen money might be a part of this deal. You're right, John, we don't know yet. But what we do know is that for the majority of the national media outlets, they're going to find a way to make this look bad for the United States, even though it appears that this is going to have a pretty good ending.
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Speaker 2: Well, that would not be surprising. They've done that every step of the way so far, and they're going to keep looking for a way to make this look worse than it is. I've seen some of the coverage zeroing in on Lebanon and saying that Trump forced Israel to stop bombing Lebanon, and that was a concession to the Iranians, and they're saying that was a bigger deal than it looks to be, and then it makes Trump look bad. We really have to see what the rest of the contours of this deal are. If Trump even agreed to free up let's say twenty billion in frozen Iranian assets, that's a drop in the buck. Compared to the damage Ran sustained during Operation Epic Fury, and if it really does put an end to their atomic program once and for all, that's not too bad.
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Speaker 1: I want to zoom out here for just a second. We're speaking with Brightbar News National Security deputy deputy editor John Hayward. Big picture with Donald Trump and his plan long term. When we're talking about the US energy, oil production, exporting, importing tankers, actually saying all right, we don't need the strait of hormones. We're coming to the Gulf of America to fill up, while at the same time sort of icing out China and Russia. Big picture here, Does Donald Trump have more plans than just Iran and nuclear enrichment and getting rid of any nuclear capabilities they have.
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Speaker 2: Oh? Absolutely, He's not been shy about saying so. And there's also Cuba in the mix. He's been publicly saying Cuba's next, so they're going to get the Venezuela treatment. Apparently he's very serious about purging Chinese and Russian influence out of Latin America and stalemating China on energy. This whole thing with Iran is a staggering blow to the Chinese and they're still trying to figure out how to deal with it. They look like they're beside themselves. They're not really sure what to say. Is they watched all of this unfold They seriously considered challenging the blockade earlier this week, and they didn't. They chickened out. They didn't go for the blockade run that China was thinking about. And that's one of the reasons I think Iran folded was the growing realization that their pals in China were not going to save them this time. This is a huge, huge defeat for China. They look weak as could be that they couldn't do anything to help Iran. Oran's a big ally of Theirs that was the third stool in their access of tyranny, along with Russia and North Korea, was going to be the junior partner in this new world order they're putting together. And Trump just destroyed Iran right before their eyes, and China didn't do a single blessed thing to help them.
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Speaker 3: John, Let's say this goes the way we hope it goes, how do we know for sure that this is a long term deal and not something that's, you know, two years from now, when Donald Trump's not the president anymore. You know, maybe it's President Gavin Newsom, maybe it's President Kamala Harris. Two years from now, it's a Democrat president, that the Iranians don't just start the new program right back up again.
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Speaker 2: The American people should think very long and hard about what you just said. Nothing lasts forever, nothing is carved in stone, No agreement is eternal. There's no way it could be. So it all depends on who's in charge and who wins the next election of what they do. And if the American people wind up putting an Obama Democrat in charge and they want to fly more palettes of money to Iran and be their friends again, there's no telling, you know, what would happen next. There is no way to permanently eliminate the eternal possibility of Iran refining iranium and making a nuclear bomb. You could make it delayed for ten years, twenty years, one hundred years. Obama's nuclear deal supposedly delayed them by five years or something like that, but you can't really extinguish the possibility forever. You have to remain vigilant. You have to make sure that whatever arrangement you've made is durable.
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Speaker 1: What else is on your radar?
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Speaker 2: John?
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Speaker 1: Before we let you go? I mean I saw you writing something about Ukraine and drones. I mean, first of all, is Ukraine even still at war with Russia? I hardly read anything about that anymore.
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Speaker 2: You know they are, But that's interesting that it isn't as big of a story right now. Of course, Iran is a very hot conflict and Russia is a stalemate. But one of the reasons Russia's stalemate is Ukraine has developed some amazing capabilities with drones, and they are claiming that they had the world's first battle where all robots actually capture a position from humans. They were able to overthrow a Russian position and take prisoners using nothing but air and ground drones, no human soldiers at all involved in the battle. It's never happened before, and it's not the first time that they say they fought battles entirely with drones. Their use of drones is amazing, and everybody in the world is looking for Ukraine's drone expertise very much, including the Gulf Arab states that Iran attacked during Operation Epic Theory.
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Speaker 1: You could find that article fascinating stuff. Breitbart dot Com. We are speaking with Bredbartnews Security deputy editor John Hayward. John, have a great weekend. You're one of the best. We appreciate the call. Great to talk to you.
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Speaker 3: Matt Bear has a look at the Roads.
Speaker 1: You're listening to the Hammer in Nigel show a ninety three WIDC. My name is Nigel Jason Hammer right over there goes straight to the hot line and bring on bright Bard News National Security deputy editor John Hayward, the best in the business at breaking it down. Donald Trump saying, Iran, Hey, they opened up the straight of her mews. Do we trust what Iran is doing? Is it open? Give us the latest on the United States and Iran and we where we're at with this war.
00:00:33
Speaker 2: Well, I don't trust Iran very much, and I'll completely believe the Strait of Hormuz is safe when I see a buckets open up there in the meantime. Yeah, it's it's looking good. I mean this really does look and looks can be deceiving, we'll see, but it really does look like a complete defeat for Iran. According to Trump, they've agreed to everything he's demanded of them. They've agreed to stop their nuclear weapons program, They're going to stop enriching uranium. They opened the Strait of Hormuz, and this parting to be true because Iran announced it. They opened the Strait of Hormos while the blockade on their ports is still in effect, that's losing a war.
00:01:08
Speaker 3: And it feels like, though John, we've heard this before, the President's been saying it feels like for over a week now, we're close, very close. How much of an impact was that ceasefire between the Israelis and Lebanon a part of this?
00:01:25
Speaker 2: That is the one concession that might be in the mix here, because Iran was very insistent that they wanted that ceasefire as part of any agreement. That they even insisted that the ceasefire last weekend included it. But it didn't. You know, they had to yield on that. But they really wanted the fighting in Lebanon to stop. But in fairness, so did Trump. He made no secret of the fact that he wasn't happy with how that was going over in Lebanon. A lot of people in Lebanon, of course, very unhappy with the Israelis intensively bombing the area. It was very dicey, and I know Israel didn't want to stop. They publicly said they weren't finished yet. But I think that was part of the package and a not unreasonable part of it if the rest of this holds together.
00:02:02
Speaker 3: Am I wrong in thinking the President may have been a little frustrated with our ally in Israel because when he called for that ceasefire between the US and Iran, like the moment that happened, the Israelis started bombing again. They were like, hold on here, We're not really a part of this. It kind of felt like Trump was a little irritated with that. Am I alone in thinking that.
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Speaker 2: I think that's probably true. He doesn't hide when he's irritated. Trump doesn't, so you could kind of tell he was a little impatient with all of that. He wanted a unified solution to all of this, and the war in Lebanon was very difficult. It with a lot of civilians are in the way, a lot of people displaced, a lot of people killed by the bombing going on there. Israel said all that was necessary because they keep getting attacked by Hisbola and they've lost faith in the ability of the Lebanese government or the desire to actually disarm that terrorist organization. And I suspect part of Trump's pitch in that Yahoo was to say that if the rest of this settles down with Iran and we get what we want, they're so weak now they can't support Hasbola anymore. They're going to fade as a threat if you just stick with me on this, and I think Netnyahu at least is willing to try that. But I know a lot of the visuals in Israel were very surprised when Trump rolled out and said Levanon operation was over. They didn't see that coming.
00:03:16
Speaker 1: Is the United States still bombing Iran or is that done at the moment.
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Speaker 2: No, aside from the blockade, I don't think we've had to shoot anybody to enforce the blockade. The blockade is still in effect. And that was the game changer, no doubt at all. As soon as that blockade began on Tuesday, Iran pretty much rolled over and died. I mean it was a matter of twenty four hours that all their resistance faded away.
00:03:36
Speaker 1: I am seeing some headlines certain other websites and giant read letters Donald Trump giving twenty billion dollar cash reward to Iran for opening the straight Is there any truth to that?
00:03:51
Speaker 2: Well, we don't know all the details yet, It's possible that they got For example, Iran has a lot of assets frozen in banks across the Middle East. Trump might have agreed to unfreeze some of that conditional on their good behavior, but we don't know yet.
00:04:03
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's gone to fruits social and he's denied some of these reports. But Axios, I think, was the first one to throw it out there that that frozen money might be a part of this deal. You're right, John, we don't know yet. But what we do know is that for the majority of the national media outlets, they're going to find a way to make this look bad for the United States, even though it appears that this is going to have a pretty good ending.
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Speaker 2: Well, that would not be surprising. They've done that every step of the way so far, and they're going to keep looking for a way to make this look worse than it is. I've seen some of the coverage zeroing in on Lebanon and saying that Trump forced Israel to stop bombing Lebanon, and that was a concession to the Iranians, and they're saying that was a bigger deal than it looks to be, and then it makes Trump look bad. We really have to see what the rest of the contours of this deal are. If Trump even agreed to free up let's say twenty billion in frozen Iranian assets, that's a drop in the buck. Compared to the damage Ran sustained during Operation Epic Fury, and if it really does put an end to their atomic program once and for all, that's not too bad.
00:05:08
Speaker 1: I want to zoom out here for just a second. We're speaking with Brightbar News National Security deputy deputy editor John Hayward. Big picture with Donald Trump and his plan long term. When we're talking about the US energy, oil production, exporting, importing tankers, actually saying all right, we don't need the strait of hormones. We're coming to the Gulf of America to fill up, while at the same time sort of icing out China and Russia. Big picture here, Does Donald Trump have more plans than just Iran and nuclear enrichment and getting rid of any nuclear capabilities they have.
00:05:49
Speaker 2: Oh? Absolutely, He's not been shy about saying so. And there's also Cuba in the mix. He's been publicly saying Cuba's next, so they're going to get the Venezuela treatment. Apparently he's very serious about purging Chinese and Russian influence out of Latin America and stalemating China on energy. This whole thing with Iran is a staggering blow to the Chinese and they're still trying to figure out how to deal with it. They look like they're beside themselves. They're not really sure what to say. Is they watched all of this unfold They seriously considered challenging the blockade earlier this week, and they didn't. They chickened out. They didn't go for the blockade run that China was thinking about. And that's one of the reasons I think Iran folded was the growing realization that their pals in China were not going to save them this time. This is a huge, huge defeat for China. They look weak as could be that they couldn't do anything to help Iran. Oran's a big ally of Theirs that was the third stool in their access of tyranny, along with Russia and North Korea, was going to be the junior partner in this new world order they're putting together. And Trump just destroyed Iran right before their eyes, and China didn't do a single blessed thing to help them.
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Speaker 3: John, Let's say this goes the way we hope it goes, how do we know for sure that this is a long term deal and not something that's, you know, two years from now, when Donald Trump's not the president anymore. You know, maybe it's President Gavin Newsom, maybe it's President Kamala Harris. Two years from now, it's a Democrat president, that the Iranians don't just start the new program right back up again.
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Speaker 2: The American people should think very long and hard about what you just said. Nothing lasts forever, nothing is carved in stone, No agreement is eternal. There's no way it could be. So it all depends on who's in charge and who wins the next election of what they do. And if the American people wind up putting an Obama Democrat in charge and they want to fly more palettes of money to Iran and be their friends again, there's no telling, you know, what would happen next. There is no way to permanently eliminate the eternal possibility of Iran refining iranium and making a nuclear bomb. You could make it delayed for ten years, twenty years, one hundred years. Obama's nuclear deal supposedly delayed them by five years or something like that, but you can't really extinguish the possibility forever. You have to remain vigilant. You have to make sure that whatever arrangement you've made is durable.
00:08:03
Speaker 1: What else is on your radar?
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Speaker 2: John?
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Speaker 1: Before we let you go? I mean I saw you writing something about Ukraine and drones. I mean, first of all, is Ukraine even still at war with Russia? I hardly read anything about that anymore.
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Speaker 2: You know they are, But that's interesting that it isn't as big of a story right now. Of course, Iran is a very hot conflict and Russia is a stalemate. But one of the reasons Russia's stalemate is Ukraine has developed some amazing capabilities with drones, and they are claiming that they had the world's first battle where all robots actually capture a position from humans. They were able to overthrow a Russian position and take prisoners using nothing but air and ground drones, no human soldiers at all involved in the battle. It's never happened before, and it's not the first time that they say they fought battles entirely with drones. Their use of drones is amazing, and everybody in the world is looking for Ukraine's drone expertise very much, including the Gulf Arab states that Iran attacked during Operation Epic Theory.
00:08:58
Speaker 1: You could find that article fascinating stuff. Breitbart dot Com. We are speaking with Bredbartnews Security deputy editor John Hayward. John, have a great weekend. You're one of the best. We appreciate the call. Great to talk to you.
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Speaker 3: Matt Bear has a look at the Roads.
