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Speaker 1: This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI AM six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on demand on the iHeartRadio app.
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Speaker 2: He did a lot of stuff.
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Speaker 1: I mean, you don't know it, but the Thomas Jefferson folder is large.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Here, let's get this.
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Speaker 3: Gary Shannon k I AM six You've met a microphone before, Live everywhere on the Heart Radio app. Live today from the Seller's Advantage Studios. Joining us for a little conversation today is a former mayor of the City of La and current gubernatorial candidate, Antartio Viragosa. Thanks for coming me.
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Speaker 4: Is so likable, Gary, Thank you for having me.
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Speaker 3: Shannon.
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Speaker 4: What can I say? I knew Shannon when she was twelve years old.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, we all did on the radio. That was just ten years ago.
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Speaker 1: We were just talking about this. And I do find you to be the most likable of all the candidates. I've always said this about you, even you know, even with John and ken Way back in the day. You know, you can disagree with via go so, but he's likable. I mean, he's the quintessential guy you'd want to have a beer with, or the guy the candidate you'd want to hang out with which people used to look for in can you know you don't want to have a beer with Katie Porter? I would say for all of us, I think that's a safe, safe assumption.
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Speaker 2: You know, you don't know.
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Speaker 1: If she's going to kill your bunny, like you just don't know. But he's always been so likable and we were just talking off the air. He's still having fun. He loves this, he has a good time in life. And we were talking about the fact that, well, I was talking about the fact this is all gravy, this is all icing on the top of the cake. You've You've built the cake of your career. You're mayor of Los Angeles. Your record, as you look back, is much better than when we were really in it. And you know, especially you know when I come from the world of John and Ken, and you know you were roasted over the coals every day, and how much fun was that for all of us?
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Speaker 5: But you know, you look back.
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Speaker 3: And I told him I made him rich.
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Speaker 1: Yeah you did not refute that, did you catch that? He said nothing back. But like you know, you look back in the fact that you strengthen the police department as a democrat, the fact that you actually got out there and there were potholes filled. You know, everyone made three year Yeah, everyone made fun of you out there in the outfit. But you got the work done, or you directed the departments to get the work done. And that is something I think to be to be lauded this day and age. With all the ineptitude that you see at city Hall, the inability to get the police force to a strength, the fire department to a strength that you had when you were mayor the potholes. They don't even talk about potholes anymore in this Los Angeles bad So anyway. So it's all gravy on the top for you, I think at this point, which is which is I think a little bit easier to take the fact that your numbers are not great.
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Speaker 4: Can I tell you something though, that I said off the air, and I'll say it on the air. You know why I'm having fun not only because I have a record, but because I'm speaking truth to power. Look, I'm no Trump guy. I'll take him on when he threatens our democracy. These raids are ugly, taking children out of the arms of their parents. You know, let's go after the violent criminals. I've said, every country has a right to secure its borders, but not that way. At the same time, I criticize Sacramento policies and who's in charge, and I tell people, you can't keep on saying like all the other Democrats do that Donald Trump is the reason for all our problems. Afford to be affordability started under Democratic watch. You know we've made it. They've made it unaffordable in this state. You can't pay rent, gas prices, utilities, can't buy a home anymore. The average home is almost nine hundred thousand dollars a year. And what I tell people is we've got to call it like we see it. And I think that's what comes with having been around. I'm not trying to curry favor. I tell people, if you want to be loved, get a dog, okay, if you want to be respected, look in the mayor make decisions every single day based on doing the job, not keeping the job, or looking for the next one. And I think there's too many people in this race on both sides of the aisle. By the way, let's just talk out of you know, their head, I mean, and don't actually care if what they're saying is factual.
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Speaker 3: In the context of the debates that we've seen. There will be no more between now on the primary, But in the context of the debates that we've seen, your voice of hey, there's a problem with the way that this state has been led for the last sixteen years. That talking point, that statement is much more along the lines of Steve Hilton and Chad Bianco than anybody else on that stage.
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Speaker 2: Nobody will admit rat has failed California.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: On the other hand, I also take on Sheriff Biancle, you know, and I say things like, you're an oath keeper. Really you believe in the Constitution in the United States, and oath keepers, you know, attacked capital the capitol. And then I say to Hilton, say before everyone that who won the election in twenty twenty he can't say byen. So it's broke on both sides. And when you're a mayor, you're focused on things like potholes. And we did three hundred thousand a year in eight years over two million. That number went down as soon as I was gone. And you know, I tell people clean streets, save streets isn't political, It isn't Democrat or Republican.
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Speaker 3: We all want it.
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Speaker 1: And right there, the thing that's frustrating for me watch these debates is watching the Katie Porters of the world say that the reason that we have a homeless problem is because a Nitia Raman on the mayor's level is because people are not having roofs over their heads, where obviously, when you're in an addiction or a mental illness, a roof of your head doesn't matter. You still want to get high, or you still are dealing with your mental illness, the roof doesn't matter.
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Speaker 2: It is irrelevant in that situation.
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Speaker 1: And it's really frustrating to be a person with common sense here that it's just a housing problem.
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Speaker 3: When you were.
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Speaker 1: Mayor, we didn't have the degree of homelessness that we had.
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Speaker 2: It wasn't scary to walk around downtown La.
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Speaker 4: You know, in fact, that's how downtown LA went from twenty thousand to sixty thousand people there are one hundred thousand now.
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Speaker 3: You know how it did. It was safe.
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Speaker 4: When you make it safe, people don't care if they don't care about anything else. They don't care about the race, the economic static status of somebody.
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Speaker 3: They want to be safe. And we knew that.
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Speaker 4: We knew that by making it safe, people would come downtown and that's a great place to live, but now a lot of people leaving because they just don't feel safe.
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Speaker 1: And can you just back me up on that's not just a housing problem.
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Speaker 4: It's not just a housing problem. It starts with housing because some of those people that start off that are mentally ill or on drugs, they didn't start off on the streets that way. So it's more than one problem. But yes, you're right, it's mental health, it's drug drugs, and so we need an all of the above solution.
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Speaker 3: I'll tell you what we don't need.
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Speaker 4: Spending twenty four billion dollars as the state did when the LAO, the Legislative Analysts audited it, you could only say two pro Well, first of all, when they spend twenty four billion, homelessness went up to in that period.
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Speaker 3: They could only say two programs work rental.
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Speaker 4: Assistance so they didn't get homeless in the first place. I'm all for that, and temporary housing the rest of it.
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Speaker 3: People couldn't say we worked with someone's making money off of that.
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Speaker 4: That's right, someone's making money could be fraud and abused too. But we know this, it didn't work, So why throw money at the same problem. I tell people we should invest in what works and stop doing what doesn't. That's not radical, that's not Democrat or Republican, it's just common sense, Which is why I said, you know that this candidacy about is about common sense, competence, and a course correction.
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Speaker 3: It seems like there's a call for a more moderate voice. You mayor Matt Mahon out of San Jose have been at least from the Democrats, out of the more moderate voices, and although you are both, you know, polling behind the leader here, there's a lot of people talking about that common sense kind of voice for the state. Is it possible? I mean, the whole point of the open primary was to try to bring more moderate voices into the political discussion, as opposed to one far right side to win the Republican nomination, one far left to win the Democrat nomination. And now that's even being threatened because of the possibility, at least a couple of weeks ago, that two Republicans were going to be the top vote getters in the primary. And there's discussion in Sacramento now to do away with the open primary because, oh God forbid, there'd be two Republicans on the You know in a general, is that a concern for you at all? That as much as we may want a more moderate voice, you guys are being silenced. Are you being squashed out?
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Speaker 4: Well, if you remember, they even said get out of the race.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: Look, the stats are pretty clear it's going to be a Democrat and Republican more likely, it's actually more likely to be two Democrats than two Republicans. But what I tell people, I supported Governor Schwarzenegger's proposal.
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Speaker 3: On this.
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Speaker 4: Top two primary, but it is starting to be clear that both sides, both sides not just the Democrats. Both sides vote for their own were very tribal, and the more moderate voters vote in the general. So you know, from my vantage point, I'm not sure I was right when I supported the top two because what I've said to Mayhean as an example, it looks like people aren't looking for common sense or a center. I'm a progressive socially, but yeah I'm old fashioned. I think you know, I think you gotta you can't spend more than you got. You had a balance budget, and you can't do everything at the same time, and you can't let the perfect get in the way.
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Speaker 3: The good.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, so much to talk about. We'll keep you for another segment if you're available. I want to know why the Democratic machine has anointed Javier Bisera. Is it because they were so screwed over by Eric Swalwell getting rape that they went with the safest guy, which is Bisarah. He's got the personality of a wet rag. Is that why? And then also there is an effort Steve Maviglio, who's been an operative in Sacramento forever he is, he's trying to repeal that effort. He's trying to get rid of that top two primary situation, the jungle primary as it were.
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Speaker 2: So we'll talk about all of that when we come back.
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Speaker 1: We have Antonio via Ragosa with US former mayor of Los Angeles, current governor candidate here in California, and it seems like Eric Swalwell was the front runner for so long, had this borderline national name prominence, and seemed to run away with the early Democratic funding of the machine. And then of course what happened with Eric Swalwell happened, and Javier Bisera seems to be a go along, get along guy's been in Sacramento for a number of years. I have a couple questions because I've watched the debates, not all of them, not in entirety, but to me, he seems like there's not a lot there there. He doesn't seem like an intelligent certainly not a trail blazer. And maybe that's what they just want, is a safe bed in California, which to me is crazy because this is supposed to be the golden, shining state on the hill for Democrats. Why wouldn't you want the best and the brightest and the trail blazers here.
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Speaker 2: But anyway, they're going with this safe option. The question for me.
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Speaker 1: Is why was he anointed the Democrats Darling.
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Speaker 3: Actually, I have no idea.
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Speaker 4: I could tell you this that he certainly has surged. At the end of the day I've had, I've registered my concerns. Not many people have taken them into account, and I'm just focused on my own candidacy.
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Speaker 3: And that's true for all of them. For the most part.
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Speaker 4: We were talking a few men to go off the air and like say it on it.
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Speaker 3: You know.
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Speaker 4: Some people said I was unleashed in these last debates. Actually what it was, I was trying to follow the rules. They said, you can interrubt people. They said, you can't say something about someone else. They said, you know, you get a minute to answer questions. They said yes and no. And when I realized nobody was doing any of that, my sister said something to me. She said, I saw you fight a lot in the neighborhood. This said street fight. Ye go out there and start fighting like you're in the streets. And that's what I did, and I think that's why a lot of people said that. I started to make some noise, But frankly, I thought that you're supposed to follow the rules.
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Speaker 1: I just have one follow up to the Bisarah question, then I'll move on. It was very hard to be sidelined by Joe Biden. Joe Biden didn't fire people. What the hell happened with Bisera when he was Health and Human Services director and then and then got sideline there.
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Speaker 4: Again, hard to tell you. I've registered my concerns. I've made it very clear that I had concerns when he was AHHS secretary and also concerns with his staff. But frankly, I've got concerns about all of the folks, for the most part, on the Democratic side and the republics in side, which is why I've said that this candidacy represents, you know, a record as a proven problem solver, but also someone who's willing to call it like he sees it, you know, like an umpire strikes and balls, even when the balls are going against and the strikes are going against your own.
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Speaker 3: Why hasn't Governor Newsome given an endorsement in this race? Do you think?
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Speaker 5: You know?
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Speaker 3: He said?
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Speaker 4: I saw him on TV recently where he said he's going to do the same thing that Jerry Brown did. Jerry Brown stayed out of the race oftentimes I stayed out of the race when Garcetti.
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Speaker 3: And gru were running. You know, there's kind of.
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Speaker 4: No upside for you, and you know when people are done with you, they're done with you.
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Speaker 3: That's kind of how it works. So I figured, God, that is so true, you know.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I tell people you're important until you're not, and then you're invisible.
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Speaker 2: That's politics, right there.
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Speaker 1: I am curious about your thoughts about mayor as well, And then I am curious about this. It does everybody wait to drop out of the primary until after the primary?
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Speaker 2: Is that how it works?
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Speaker 4: Okay, so let me answer that one first. Some people may drop out before January June sewond some may wait until afterwards. I can't tell you what the others are going to do. I could just tell you for me right now. I believe this candidacy is more than just you know, throwing my name in. Democrats need to hear me out, you know. Yes, Donald Trump is a threat to our democracy and I will challenge him at every turn. And as I tell people, who better to do that than somebody who came out of the civil rights movement and the labor movement. I believe in civil liberties and civil rights at the same time. I tell people a lot of what's broken in California has been broken for a while, and Donald Trump made some of it worse, for sure, But we got to look at the underlying policies and the issue of affordability. I said six years ago, we have the worth largest economy in the world and the highest poverty rate. How does that work. We have an economy it's not working for enough people. They're struggling every day to make ends meet. They're working and they're not making it.
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Speaker 3: We have the.
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Speaker 4: Highest unemployment rate, but it's still low in comparison to where it's been in the past.
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Speaker 3: It's about five and a half percent.
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Speaker 4: Why are people working not making it?
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Speaker 3: That's a that's.
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Speaker 4: A legitimate question, and a big reason is it's just not affordable.
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Speaker 3: Because we picked up the minimum wage multiple.
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Speaker 4: Times, there's you know, a lot more unionization, particularly in the low wage jobs than there used to be. Why is it just so difficult to make ends meet in the state. Why are so many businesses leaving this state? You know, we used to be the party of working families and you know, people that work with their hands as an example, and now more of them are with the other side.
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Speaker 3: So I tell people, when you lose them, mil.
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Speaker 4: Look in the mayor, don't just point fingers at everybody, look in the mirror and say, refreshing, where am I responsible here?
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Speaker 1: Yep?
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Speaker 2: Absolutely right?
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Speaker 1: All right, We'll continue with Antonio Viragos and we come back find out what he thinks about this mayor's race.
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Speaker 3: Gary and Shannon will continue.
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Speaker 5: You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI AM six forty.
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Speaker 3: Gary and Shannon KFI AM six forty live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app spending some time with a candidate for governor, Antonio vier Goso. Of course, former mayor of the city of La I had asked in the previous segment about Gavin Newsom and why or why not he hasn't given an endorsement in the governor's race yet, But there is also a massive race for your former seat for mayor of la And we've said this many times, especially in the last two or three weeks. What we saw as a Spencer Pratt candidacy in jam January January February and he announced was laughable. Nobody had heard of this guy since he was on reality TV. He has tapped into something, whether it's anger, to use Karen Bass's word, or frustration, or just this passion for what we saw was a great, once great city of Los Angeles that is now in all of these videos that come out, shown more gross, more deadly, more destructive, more destruct dead than it ever has been before. What do you what do you just visual or just general ideas about what's going on with this race for the mayor of LA. You know, I'm so focused on mine.
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Speaker 4: I haven't really focused a whole lot on the mayor's race. I did see the debate because the last one, because.
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Speaker 3: We were there, were in the building. We were in the building. I saw most of it.
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Speaker 4: Anyways, I was getting ready for my own and I find him to be a caricature of a reality TV show. But it's clear he has some traction. It's clear that he has support. I don't know if it's support for him as much as voting against Yeah, the incumbent. But I'll tell you this, I find his ads, all these AI ads a little scary because they seem to be poortend what the future.
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Speaker 3: Could look like.
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Speaker 2: That's so funny. I said that before you got in here.
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Speaker 1: I said I'm interested to see what you think because this campaign's been interesting to me. Will these ai ads stick around, will they be using future campaigns? And what will traditional media do with them? Will they okay airing them? Because on social media it's one thing right when he posts these videos on apps or what have you, But will you know people who don't know better see these on television and think they're real.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm concerned with that. Look, this whole notion of fake news is this seems to me like it's just going to make things worse. And I think political leaders on both sides of the aisle need to put some guardrails, some protections, because I could see people buying into all.
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Speaker 3: Of this as if it's true. Do you mean do you mean legal guardrails or just sort of ethical moral guidelines from the party or from a candidate.
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Speaker 4: I think all of the above yea even legal because especially if they're misrepresenting someone's record, you know, an ai of image of someone saying X or Y.
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Speaker 3: Well, the I mean, I partially agree with you, because I do think that there is a dangerous path that is available that we haven't seen before. But there's all also what makes it amazing on social media is the absolute cartoon like quality of for example, Karen Bass with clown make upon or Gavin Newsom dressed as a French prince or whatever it is. I mean, they're so outlandish in many cases that they could not be mistaken for reality. But if somebody chooses to use images of a political opponent and put words in their mouth that they never said or ascribed to them, certain policies that never were actually put.
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Speaker 1: Where, it's not the dress up like a clown, it's the words that come out of their mouth that never did.
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Speaker 3: But you know, it's a beautiful thing.
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Speaker 4: I don't necessarily disagree with what it just hit, and I think we should have those debates. I don't think they're going to be right or left either. I think everybody has an interest in making sure that they don't cross the line into misters representations of fact. Having a little fun, you know, that's one thing.
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Speaker 3: But never underestimate how gullible people are. This stuff.
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Speaker 4: Well, you know, that's what's the scary thing about our democracy that all of us have to fight for Democrat and Republican. Too many people just don't read anymore.
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Speaker 3: I was just going to say we allow the stupidest people to vote, we also allow the smartest people to vote. But there's no reading requirement, there's no intelligence requirement. There's nothing other than you know, proving that that you're eligible to vote.
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Speaker 2: Or eligible to run.
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Speaker 3: Run the classic Shannon, that was perfect. I remember when you were twelve, when you were a kid. Well, what I mean, You've got a couple of weeks now, no no debate between now in June. Second, what's your calendar look like? How do you how do you make up ground.
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Speaker 4: By the way you make up ground by going on shows like this. What I like about this show it's a broadcross section of people. Everybody's listening. It might be more center or center right, but it's everybody's listening. And I intend to make my case to the voters until such time is I believe that that I'm not being effective, that I'm not speaking truth to power.
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Speaker 3: I don't care.
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Speaker 4: If there are Democrats who don't like what I'm saying. I also don't care if the MAGA right is challenged, for instance, my take on these immigration rates and civil liberties. You know where you say that a talk show hosts, late night talk show hosts can't make fun of the President of the United States. You know, you're not King George. We can make fun of anybody we want. That's what America is all about. And I'll tell you something, you know. I know some people think that patriotism is you know, old fashioned. But I love my country. This country's given me more than I could ever ask for or thought i'd get. And I want to protect my country and my state and my town. And so that means just you know, call it like you see it.
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Speaker 2: And it's refreshing.
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Speaker 1: It's refreshing to hear because I think for too long, especially in California, as a Democrat, you can't point fingers at any other Democrat and say you were wrong in doing this, or this didn't work. Let's do it differently, because then suddenly you're a Republican in their eyes, you know, And that's not fair, and it doesn't make the party stronger. It doesn't make Democrats stronger. What happens is you get stronger by, like you said, looking in the mirror and just being honest with yourself as a party.
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Speaker 3: You know, I made a.
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Speaker 4: Lot of mistakes when I was mayor looking back, there's some dumb things I did you know, I you know, give you an example. Did I do big things on education, yes, sixty percent increase. Did I have to get in the kind of battles I got with the Teachers' union? You know, I think I could have done that with a little more patience and brought them in, But you know I had the.
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Speaker 3: Papers pushing me. You know, where's your progress? You said you were going to improve the schools. The same with the subway to the sea.
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Speaker 4: You know, you end up, you know, wanting to do things faster and maybe a little more like a bull in a china shop when you're getting a lot of pressure to show success. And so I look back. You know, I made my share mistakes. Here's another example. I bought, you know, I wanted to get I want to be the cleanest, greenest big city in America, and I started buying on the spot market. And people criticized me for that because I was, you know, some of the utility costs were going up. So then I and did it slower and kept a focus on utility costs to consumers. We're not doing that at the state. That's why, you know, as an example, we built one hundred and sixty seven thousand charging stations in the last ten years. We need too many and more to get to the twenty thirty five goal. And if we got there, we don't have the grid and we don't have the generation. We're not building the distribution. So we got to do all of that. We needed all of the above strategy, not just one that says we're gonna go all net zero by twenty forty five and say no to small nuclear, no to gas and oil. It's just not gonna happen like that.
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Speaker 1: Here's a Democrat who's put his unicorn in the garage and its socided not to ride on rainbows all day.
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Speaker 3: And Tonio Viragoza, thanks for coming in. We appreciate it. Thank you guys. Gary and Shannon will continue in just a moment.
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Speaker 1: Gary and Shannon kfi AM six forty Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app.
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Speaker 2: Did you want to talk about carls Junior?
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Speaker 4: What do you do?
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Speaker 2: What are you doing on your phone?
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Speaker 3: I'm looking at the fire and see me. Oh, what do we know? It's Sandy Fire, six hundred block of Sandy Avenue. Very small as of right now, they're saying it's only about an acre, but it is potentially expanding relatively quickly. There are some evacuation orders that are up and evacuation warnings as well. You can go to the Ventura County Emergency Incident Management Dashboard for more information. As of this point, they said, evacuations requested for the Rambling Road right in the area of Casual Court and Rocking Horse Drive, and if you're in that area, if you're in the Seami Valley area, it is going to be south of the one eighteen, sort of in the foothills there. So keep an eye on that this will get worse before it gets better, as they always do. We have seen plenty of concern about the weather because the winds are going to be up. Critical fire weather conditions existing throughout La Ventura County Mountains, which is where this is in the Santa Clarita Valley, the northern San Fernando Valley, eastern Ventura Valley is where as well northeast gust They said twenty five to forty. It is burning in an area that is sort of bordering on Holmes as of right now.
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Speaker 2: Did you mention the evacuation orders, Yeah.
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Speaker 3: I didn't get specifics because they're in specific the way that they're listed that I can see them as different zones.
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Speaker 1: I got the zones, but then I got evacuations requested for Rambling Road, and I heard you say Rocking Horse Rambling Road in the area of Casual Court and Rocking House Horse Drive, and those went from evacuation warnings to evacuation orders, which is go.
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Speaker 3: Hailey Court specifically, also Rudolph Drive. They're saying, is the direction that this the fire is moving into a lot of home in that area that are right now and within the next few minutes going to be impacted by this.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll keep an eye on this.
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Speaker 1: They say it is moving quickly, light to medium fuels. But as we mentioned, the forecast is is not going to be helping things. But they jumped on this, saying, put out a second alarm right.
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Speaker 3: Quick, trickling Brook Court and hazel Ridge Court right around Rambling Road, like you said, Rocking Horse Drive, those are all pretty well covered with smoke right now. So if you see this, now is the time to get out. Do not wait for this.
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Speaker 1: Also, the watch Duty app so helpful, like it is the best app for fire activity and notifications and all of that that I have ever used.
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Speaker 2: We learned about it.
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Speaker 1: Oh, I don't know a few years ago now, but I cannot say enough about the watch study.
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Speaker 3: App Was it the Chanuary twenty five? Yet I thought we had it before. Oh, you know what, it may have been right before that. There's other fires that were before that though, yeah, started it, but that's really when it absolutely exploded for a lot of people. All Right, we'll keep an eye on that fire again out in just south of the one to eighteen in the Semi Valley area.
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Speaker 2: He did a lot of stuff.
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Speaker 1: I mean, you don't know it, but the Thomas Jefferson folder is large.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Here, let's get this.
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Speaker 3: Gary Shannon k I AM six You've met a microphone before, Live everywhere on the Heart Radio app. Live today from the Seller's Advantage Studios. Joining us for a little conversation today is a former mayor of the City of La and current gubernatorial candidate, Antartio Viragosa. Thanks for coming me.
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Speaker 4: Is so likable, Gary, Thank you for having me.
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Speaker 3: Shannon.
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Speaker 4: What can I say? I knew Shannon when she was twelve years old.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, we all did on the radio. That was just ten years ago.
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Speaker 1: We were just talking about this. And I do find you to be the most likable of all the candidates. I've always said this about you, even you know, even with John and ken Way back in the day. You know, you can disagree with via go so, but he's likable. I mean, he's the quintessential guy you'd want to have a beer with, or the guy the candidate you'd want to hang out with which people used to look for in can you know you don't want to have a beer with Katie Porter? I would say for all of us, I think that's a safe, safe assumption.
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Speaker 2: You know, you don't know.
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Speaker 1: If she's going to kill your bunny, like you just don't know. But he's always been so likable and we were just talking off the air. He's still having fun. He loves this, he has a good time in life. And we were talking about the fact that, well, I was talking about the fact this is all gravy, this is all icing on the top of the cake. You've You've built the cake of your career. You're mayor of Los Angeles. Your record, as you look back, is much better than when we were really in it. And you know, especially you know when I come from the world of John and Ken, and you know you were roasted over the coals every day, and how much fun was that for all of us?
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Speaker 5: But you know, you look back.
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Speaker 3: And I told him I made him rich.
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Speaker 1: Yeah you did not refute that, did you catch that? He said nothing back. But like you know, you look back in the fact that you strengthen the police department as a democrat, the fact that you actually got out there and there were potholes filled. You know, everyone made three year Yeah, everyone made fun of you out there in the outfit. But you got the work done, or you directed the departments to get the work done. And that is something I think to be to be lauded this day and age. With all the ineptitude that you see at city Hall, the inability to get the police force to a strength, the fire department to a strength that you had when you were mayor the potholes. They don't even talk about potholes anymore in this Los Angeles bad So anyway. So it's all gravy on the top for you, I think at this point, which is which is I think a little bit easier to take the fact that your numbers are not great.
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Speaker 4: Can I tell you something though, that I said off the air, and I'll say it on the air. You know why I'm having fun not only because I have a record, but because I'm speaking truth to power. Look, I'm no Trump guy. I'll take him on when he threatens our democracy. These raids are ugly, taking children out of the arms of their parents. You know, let's go after the violent criminals. I've said, every country has a right to secure its borders, but not that way. At the same time, I criticize Sacramento policies and who's in charge, and I tell people, you can't keep on saying like all the other Democrats do that Donald Trump is the reason for all our problems. Afford to be affordability started under Democratic watch. You know we've made it. They've made it unaffordable in this state. You can't pay rent, gas prices, utilities, can't buy a home anymore. The average home is almost nine hundred thousand dollars a year. And what I tell people is we've got to call it like we see it. And I think that's what comes with having been around. I'm not trying to curry favor. I tell people, if you want to be loved, get a dog, okay, if you want to be respected, look in the mayor make decisions every single day based on doing the job, not keeping the job, or looking for the next one. And I think there's too many people in this race on both sides of the aisle. By the way, let's just talk out of you know, their head, I mean, and don't actually care if what they're saying is factual.
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Speaker 3: In the context of the debates that we've seen. There will be no more between now on the primary, But in the context of the debates that we've seen, your voice of hey, there's a problem with the way that this state has been led for the last sixteen years. That talking point, that statement is much more along the lines of Steve Hilton and Chad Bianco than anybody else on that stage.
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Speaker 2: Nobody will admit rat has failed California.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: On the other hand, I also take on Sheriff Biancle, you know, and I say things like, you're an oath keeper. Really you believe in the Constitution in the United States, and oath keepers, you know, attacked capital the capitol. And then I say to Hilton, say before everyone that who won the election in twenty twenty he can't say byen. So it's broke on both sides. And when you're a mayor, you're focused on things like potholes. And we did three hundred thousand a year in eight years over two million. That number went down as soon as I was gone. And you know, I tell people clean streets, save streets isn't political, It isn't Democrat or Republican.
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Speaker 3: We all want it.
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Speaker 1: And right there, the thing that's frustrating for me watch these debates is watching the Katie Porters of the world say that the reason that we have a homeless problem is because a Nitia Raman on the mayor's level is because people are not having roofs over their heads, where obviously, when you're in an addiction or a mental illness, a roof of your head doesn't matter. You still want to get high, or you still are dealing with your mental illness, the roof doesn't matter.
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Speaker 2: It is irrelevant in that situation.
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Speaker 1: And it's really frustrating to be a person with common sense here that it's just a housing problem.
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Speaker 3: When you were.
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Speaker 1: Mayor, we didn't have the degree of homelessness that we had.
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Speaker 2: It wasn't scary to walk around downtown La.
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Speaker 4: You know, in fact, that's how downtown LA went from twenty thousand to sixty thousand people there are one hundred thousand now.
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Speaker 3: You know how it did. It was safe.
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Speaker 4: When you make it safe, people don't care if they don't care about anything else. They don't care about the race, the economic static status of somebody.
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Speaker 3: They want to be safe. And we knew that.
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Speaker 4: We knew that by making it safe, people would come downtown and that's a great place to live, but now a lot of people leaving because they just don't feel safe.
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Speaker 1: And can you just back me up on that's not just a housing problem.
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Speaker 4: It's not just a housing problem. It starts with housing because some of those people that start off that are mentally ill or on drugs, they didn't start off on the streets that way. So it's more than one problem. But yes, you're right, it's mental health, it's drug drugs, and so we need an all of the above solution.
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Speaker 3: I'll tell you what we don't need.
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Speaker 4: Spending twenty four billion dollars as the state did when the LAO, the Legislative Analysts audited it, you could only say two pro Well, first of all, when they spend twenty four billion, homelessness went up to in that period.
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Speaker 3: They could only say two programs work rental.
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Speaker 4: Assistance so they didn't get homeless in the first place. I'm all for that, and temporary housing the rest of it.
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Speaker 3: People couldn't say we worked with someone's making money off of that.
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Speaker 4: That's right, someone's making money could be fraud and abused too. But we know this, it didn't work, So why throw money at the same problem. I tell people we should invest in what works and stop doing what doesn't. That's not radical, that's not Democrat or Republican, it's just common sense, Which is why I said, you know that this candidacy about is about common sense, competence, and a course correction.
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Speaker 3: It seems like there's a call for a more moderate voice. You mayor Matt Mahon out of San Jose have been at least from the Democrats, out of the more moderate voices, and although you are both, you know, polling behind the leader here, there's a lot of people talking about that common sense kind of voice for the state. Is it possible? I mean, the whole point of the open primary was to try to bring more moderate voices into the political discussion, as opposed to one far right side to win the Republican nomination, one far left to win the Democrat nomination. And now that's even being threatened because of the possibility, at least a couple of weeks ago, that two Republicans were going to be the top vote getters in the primary. And there's discussion in Sacramento now to do away with the open primary because, oh God forbid, there'd be two Republicans on the You know in a general, is that a concern for you at all? That as much as we may want a more moderate voice, you guys are being silenced. Are you being squashed out?
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Speaker 4: Well, if you remember, they even said get out of the race.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: Look, the stats are pretty clear it's going to be a Democrat and Republican more likely, it's actually more likely to be two Democrats than two Republicans. But what I tell people, I supported Governor Schwarzenegger's proposal.
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Speaker 3: On this.
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Speaker 4: Top two primary, but it is starting to be clear that both sides, both sides not just the Democrats. Both sides vote for their own were very tribal, and the more moderate voters vote in the general. So you know, from my vantage point, I'm not sure I was right when I supported the top two because what I've said to Mayhean as an example, it looks like people aren't looking for common sense or a center. I'm a progressive socially, but yeah I'm old fashioned. I think you know, I think you gotta you can't spend more than you got. You had a balance budget, and you can't do everything at the same time, and you can't let the perfect get in the way.
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Speaker 3: The good.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, so much to talk about. We'll keep you for another segment if you're available. I want to know why the Democratic machine has anointed Javier Bisera. Is it because they were so screwed over by Eric Swalwell getting rape that they went with the safest guy, which is Bisarah. He's got the personality of a wet rag. Is that why? And then also there is an effort Steve Maviglio, who's been an operative in Sacramento forever he is, he's trying to repeal that effort. He's trying to get rid of that top two primary situation, the jungle primary as it were.
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Speaker 2: So we'll talk about all of that when we come back.
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Speaker 1: We have Antonio via Ragosa with US former mayor of Los Angeles, current governor candidate here in California, and it seems like Eric Swalwell was the front runner for so long, had this borderline national name prominence, and seemed to run away with the early Democratic funding of the machine. And then of course what happened with Eric Swalwell happened, and Javier Bisera seems to be a go along, get along guy's been in Sacramento for a number of years. I have a couple questions because I've watched the debates, not all of them, not in entirety, but to me, he seems like there's not a lot there there. He doesn't seem like an intelligent certainly not a trail blazer. And maybe that's what they just want, is a safe bed in California, which to me is crazy because this is supposed to be the golden, shining state on the hill for Democrats. Why wouldn't you want the best and the brightest and the trail blazers here.
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Speaker 2: But anyway, they're going with this safe option. The question for me.
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Speaker 1: Is why was he anointed the Democrats Darling.
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Speaker 3: Actually, I have no idea.
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Speaker 4: I could tell you this that he certainly has surged. At the end of the day I've had, I've registered my concerns. Not many people have taken them into account, and I'm just focused on my own candidacy.
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Speaker 3: And that's true for all of them. For the most part.
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Speaker 4: We were talking a few men to go off the air and like say it on it.
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Speaker 3: You know.
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Speaker 4: Some people said I was unleashed in these last debates. Actually what it was, I was trying to follow the rules. They said, you can interrubt people. They said, you can't say something about someone else. They said, you know, you get a minute to answer questions. They said yes and no. And when I realized nobody was doing any of that, my sister said something to me. She said, I saw you fight a lot in the neighborhood. This said street fight. Ye go out there and start fighting like you're in the streets. And that's what I did, and I think that's why a lot of people said that. I started to make some noise, But frankly, I thought that you're supposed to follow the rules.
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Speaker 1: I just have one follow up to the Bisarah question, then I'll move on. It was very hard to be sidelined by Joe Biden. Joe Biden didn't fire people. What the hell happened with Bisera when he was Health and Human Services director and then and then got sideline there.
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Speaker 4: Again, hard to tell you. I've registered my concerns. I've made it very clear that I had concerns when he was AHHS secretary and also concerns with his staff. But frankly, I've got concerns about all of the folks, for the most part, on the Democratic side and the republics in side, which is why I've said that this candidacy represents, you know, a record as a proven problem solver, but also someone who's willing to call it like he sees it, you know, like an umpire strikes and balls, even when the balls are going against and the strikes are going against your own.
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Speaker 3: Why hasn't Governor Newsome given an endorsement in this race? Do you think?
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Speaker 5: You know?
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Speaker 3: He said?
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Speaker 4: I saw him on TV recently where he said he's going to do the same thing that Jerry Brown did. Jerry Brown stayed out of the race oftentimes I stayed out of the race when Garcetti.
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Speaker 3: And gru were running. You know, there's kind of.
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Speaker 4: No upside for you, and you know when people are done with you, they're done with you.
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Speaker 3: That's kind of how it works. So I figured, God, that is so true, you know.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I tell people you're important until you're not, and then you're invisible.
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Speaker 2: That's politics, right there.
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Speaker 1: I am curious about your thoughts about mayor as well, And then I am curious about this. It does everybody wait to drop out of the primary until after the primary?
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Speaker 2: Is that how it works?
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Speaker 4: Okay, so let me answer that one first. Some people may drop out before January June sewond some may wait until afterwards. I can't tell you what the others are going to do. I could just tell you for me right now. I believe this candidacy is more than just you know, throwing my name in. Democrats need to hear me out, you know. Yes, Donald Trump is a threat to our democracy and I will challenge him at every turn. And as I tell people, who better to do that than somebody who came out of the civil rights movement and the labor movement. I believe in civil liberties and civil rights at the same time. I tell people a lot of what's broken in California has been broken for a while, and Donald Trump made some of it worse, for sure, But we got to look at the underlying policies and the issue of affordability. I said six years ago, we have the worth largest economy in the world and the highest poverty rate. How does that work. We have an economy it's not working for enough people. They're struggling every day to make ends meet. They're working and they're not making it.
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Speaker 3: We have the.
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Speaker 4: Highest unemployment rate, but it's still low in comparison to where it's been in the past.
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Speaker 3: It's about five and a half percent.
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Speaker 4: Why are people working not making it?
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Speaker 3: That's a that's.
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Speaker 4: A legitimate question, and a big reason is it's just not affordable.
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Speaker 3: Because we picked up the minimum wage multiple.
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Speaker 4: Times, there's you know, a lot more unionization, particularly in the low wage jobs than there used to be. Why is it just so difficult to make ends meet in the state. Why are so many businesses leaving this state? You know, we used to be the party of working families and you know, people that work with their hands as an example, and now more of them are with the other side.
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Speaker 3: So I tell people, when you lose them, mil.
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Speaker 4: Look in the mayor, don't just point fingers at everybody, look in the mirror and say, refreshing, where am I responsible here?
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Speaker 1: Yep?
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Speaker 2: Absolutely right?
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Speaker 1: All right, We'll continue with Antonio Viragos and we come back find out what he thinks about this mayor's race.
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Speaker 3: Gary and Shannon will continue.
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Speaker 5: You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI AM six forty.
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Speaker 3: Gary and Shannon KFI AM six forty live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app spending some time with a candidate for governor, Antonio vier Goso. Of course, former mayor of the city of La I had asked in the previous segment about Gavin Newsom and why or why not he hasn't given an endorsement in the governor's race yet, But there is also a massive race for your former seat for mayor of la And we've said this many times, especially in the last two or three weeks. What we saw as a Spencer Pratt candidacy in jam January January February and he announced was laughable. Nobody had heard of this guy since he was on reality TV. He has tapped into something, whether it's anger, to use Karen Bass's word, or frustration, or just this passion for what we saw was a great, once great city of Los Angeles that is now in all of these videos that come out, shown more gross, more deadly, more destructive, more destruct dead than it ever has been before. What do you what do you just visual or just general ideas about what's going on with this race for the mayor of LA. You know, I'm so focused on mine.
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Speaker 4: I haven't really focused a whole lot on the mayor's race. I did see the debate because the last one, because.
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Speaker 3: We were there, were in the building. We were in the building. I saw most of it.
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Speaker 4: Anyways, I was getting ready for my own and I find him to be a caricature of a reality TV show. But it's clear he has some traction. It's clear that he has support. I don't know if it's support for him as much as voting against Yeah, the incumbent. But I'll tell you this, I find his ads, all these AI ads a little scary because they seem to be poortend what the future.
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Speaker 3: Could look like.
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Speaker 2: That's so funny. I said that before you got in here.
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Speaker 1: I said I'm interested to see what you think because this campaign's been interesting to me. Will these ai ads stick around, will they be using future campaigns? And what will traditional media do with them? Will they okay airing them? Because on social media it's one thing right when he posts these videos on apps or what have you, But will you know people who don't know better see these on television and think they're real.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm concerned with that. Look, this whole notion of fake news is this seems to me like it's just going to make things worse. And I think political leaders on both sides of the aisle need to put some guardrails, some protections, because I could see people buying into all.
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Speaker 3: Of this as if it's true. Do you mean do you mean legal guardrails or just sort of ethical moral guidelines from the party or from a candidate.
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Speaker 4: I think all of the above yea even legal because especially if they're misrepresenting someone's record, you know, an ai of image of someone saying X or Y.
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Speaker 3: Well, the I mean, I partially agree with you, because I do think that there is a dangerous path that is available that we haven't seen before. But there's all also what makes it amazing on social media is the absolute cartoon like quality of for example, Karen Bass with clown make upon or Gavin Newsom dressed as a French prince or whatever it is. I mean, they're so outlandish in many cases that they could not be mistaken for reality. But if somebody chooses to use images of a political opponent and put words in their mouth that they never said or ascribed to them, certain policies that never were actually put.
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Speaker 1: Where, it's not the dress up like a clown, it's the words that come out of their mouth that never did.
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Speaker 3: But you know, it's a beautiful thing.
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Speaker 4: I don't necessarily disagree with what it just hit, and I think we should have those debates. I don't think they're going to be right or left either. I think everybody has an interest in making sure that they don't cross the line into misters representations of fact. Having a little fun, you know, that's one thing.
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Speaker 3: But never underestimate how gullible people are. This stuff.
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Speaker 4: Well, you know, that's what's the scary thing about our democracy that all of us have to fight for Democrat and Republican. Too many people just don't read anymore.
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Speaker 3: I was just going to say we allow the stupidest people to vote, we also allow the smartest people to vote. But there's no reading requirement, there's no intelligence requirement. There's nothing other than you know, proving that that you're eligible to vote.
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Speaker 2: Or eligible to run.
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Speaker 3: Run the classic Shannon, that was perfect. I remember when you were twelve, when you were a kid. Well, what I mean, You've got a couple of weeks now, no no debate between now in June. Second, what's your calendar look like? How do you how do you make up ground.
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Speaker 4: By the way you make up ground by going on shows like this. What I like about this show it's a broadcross section of people. Everybody's listening. It might be more center or center right, but it's everybody's listening. And I intend to make my case to the voters until such time is I believe that that I'm not being effective, that I'm not speaking truth to power.
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Speaker 3: I don't care.
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Speaker 4: If there are Democrats who don't like what I'm saying. I also don't care if the MAGA right is challenged, for instance, my take on these immigration rates and civil liberties. You know where you say that a talk show hosts, late night talk show hosts can't make fun of the President of the United States. You know, you're not King George. We can make fun of anybody we want. That's what America is all about. And I'll tell you something, you know. I know some people think that patriotism is you know, old fashioned. But I love my country. This country's given me more than I could ever ask for or thought i'd get. And I want to protect my country and my state and my town. And so that means just you know, call it like you see it.
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Speaker 2: And it's refreshing.
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Speaker 1: It's refreshing to hear because I think for too long, especially in California, as a Democrat, you can't point fingers at any other Democrat and say you were wrong in doing this, or this didn't work. Let's do it differently, because then suddenly you're a Republican in their eyes, you know, And that's not fair, and it doesn't make the party stronger. It doesn't make Democrats stronger. What happens is you get stronger by, like you said, looking in the mirror and just being honest with yourself as a party.
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Speaker 3: You know, I made a.
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Speaker 4: Lot of mistakes when I was mayor looking back, there's some dumb things I did you know, I you know, give you an example. Did I do big things on education, yes, sixty percent increase. Did I have to get in the kind of battles I got with the Teachers' union? You know, I think I could have done that with a little more patience and brought them in, But you know I had the.
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Speaker 3: Papers pushing me. You know, where's your progress? You said you were going to improve the schools. The same with the subway to the sea.
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Speaker 4: You know, you end up, you know, wanting to do things faster and maybe a little more like a bull in a china shop when you're getting a lot of pressure to show success. And so I look back. You know, I made my share mistakes. Here's another example. I bought, you know, I wanted to get I want to be the cleanest, greenest big city in America, and I started buying on the spot market. And people criticized me for that because I was, you know, some of the utility costs were going up. So then I and did it slower and kept a focus on utility costs to consumers. We're not doing that at the state. That's why, you know, as an example, we built one hundred and sixty seven thousand charging stations in the last ten years. We need too many and more to get to the twenty thirty five goal. And if we got there, we don't have the grid and we don't have the generation. We're not building the distribution. So we got to do all of that. We needed all of the above strategy, not just one that says we're gonna go all net zero by twenty forty five and say no to small nuclear, no to gas and oil. It's just not gonna happen like that.
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Speaker 1: Here's a Democrat who's put his unicorn in the garage and its socided not to ride on rainbows all day.
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Speaker 3: And Tonio Viragoza, thanks for coming in. We appreciate it. Thank you guys. Gary and Shannon will continue in just a moment.
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Speaker 2: Did you want to talk about carls Junior?
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Speaker 4: What do you do?
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Speaker 2: What are you doing on your phone?
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Speaker 3: I'm looking at the fire and see me. Oh, what do we know? It's Sandy Fire, six hundred block of Sandy Avenue. Very small as of right now, they're saying it's only about an acre, but it is potentially expanding relatively quickly. There are some evacuation orders that are up and evacuation warnings as well. You can go to the Ventura County Emergency Incident Management Dashboard for more information. As of this point, they said, evacuations requested for the Rambling Road right in the area of Casual Court and Rocking Horse Drive, and if you're in that area, if you're in the Seami Valley area, it is going to be south of the one eighteen, sort of in the foothills there. So keep an eye on that this will get worse before it gets better, as they always do. We have seen plenty of concern about the weather because the winds are going to be up. Critical fire weather conditions existing throughout La Ventura County Mountains, which is where this is in the Santa Clarita Valley, the northern San Fernando Valley, eastern Ventura Valley is where as well northeast gust They said twenty five to forty. It is burning in an area that is sort of bordering on Holmes as of right now.
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Speaker 2: Did you mention the evacuation orders, Yeah.
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Speaker 3: I didn't get specifics because they're in specific the way that they're listed that I can see them as different zones.
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Speaker 1: I got the zones, but then I got evacuations requested for Rambling Road, and I heard you say Rocking Horse Rambling Road in the area of Casual Court and Rocking House Horse Drive, and those went from evacuation warnings to evacuation orders, which is go.
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Speaker 3: Hailey Court specifically, also Rudolph Drive. They're saying, is the direction that this the fire is moving into a lot of home in that area that are right now and within the next few minutes going to be impacted by this.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll keep an eye on this.
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Speaker 1: They say it is moving quickly, light to medium fuels. But as we mentioned, the forecast is is not going to be helping things. But they jumped on this, saying, put out a second alarm right.
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Speaker 3: Quick, trickling Brook Court and hazel Ridge Court right around Rambling Road, like you said, Rocking Horse Drive, those are all pretty well covered with smoke right now. So if you see this, now is the time to get out. Do not wait for this.
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Speaker 1: Also, the watch Duty app so helpful, like it is the best app for fire activity and notifications and all of that that I have ever used.
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Speaker 2: We learned about it.
00:31:46
Speaker 1: Oh, I don't know a few years ago now, but I cannot say enough about the watch study.
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Speaker 3: App Was it the Chanuary twenty five? Yet I thought we had it before. Oh, you know what, it may have been right before that. There's other fires that were before that though, yeah, started it, but that's really when it absolutely exploded for a lot of people. All Right, we'll keep an eye on that fire again out in just south of the one to eighteen in the Semi Valley area.
00:32:09
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