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Hello, everybody, Welcome to the Buckeye with Me podcast. I'm
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Tony Gerdaman here once again with Juck Maletti and Jack.
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How's it going?
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My longest pause yet fantastic. Tony really excited about this topic.
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I love these ones.
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Yeah. Well, and this one came from the home office
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of your home office, and you said, let's let's do something.
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Let's talk about the you know, which freshmen that we
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think are going to hit one hundred snaps on the season,
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which caused us both to go back. I can look
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through the years to see how often does a freshman
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get one hundred snaps? And as you did your research,
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was there anything that really jumped out for you as
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you're doing this, Because one hundred snaps, it's like no
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big deal, but not a lot of freshmen actually hit
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that number.
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One hundred snaps is an elite number. If you were
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getting one hundred snaps at Ohio State as a freshman,
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it means they not only believe in you, but they're
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looking for you to contribute in a big way next year.
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And at number one.
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Before I even start that, I just want to say
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shout out to you for doing all this research. You
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did that I did that. We didn't even talk about.
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That is the kind of stuff you get on Buckeye Weekly.
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Most guys are going to come and spitball it. We
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went back years and years and years to look at
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how many Ohio State freshmen normally get one hundred snaps
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and the trends that I think we've seen here recently.
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Something we've talked about Ohio State fans for a long
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time when it comes to Ryan Day and his regime,
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not playing younger guys, not getting not getting the guys
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out quite early enough early as some would like in
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blowout games and getting those younger guys in there and playing.
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And when we just go back, say, for instance, to
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twenty twenty two, you ad two freshmen and jyr Brown
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and Dollan Hayden cracked the one hundred snap club. In
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twenty twenty three you had three. You had Jermaine Matthews,
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Carnel Tate, and Malie Cartford. In twenty twenty four you
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had three again, Jeremiah Smith, Edric Houston and Jalen McLain.
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And after those guys that cracked the one hundred snap club,
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there's one or two guys that get to like seventy
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or so. Then when we roll into the class of
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twenty twenty five, which was a very good class, we
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have five guys who made the one hundred snap club
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in Bo Jackson, Nate Roberts, Isaiah West, Devin Sanchez, Zion Grady.
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But what really makes the difference here for me, Tony,
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is you've also got Fahim Delayne, Riley Petti, John Jarquis,
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Carter tj Alfred, and Quincy Porter all over fifty between fifty.
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To eighty five. And that is a drastic difference from
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the previous classes.
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Well, yeah, I think it. On one hand, it tells
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you that the class is better, but also a more
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concerted effort to get guys on the field. And maybe
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it's because of lost depth or whatever, but I think
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the opportunity now to play four games that helps without
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burning a red shirt. And shoot, now there is no
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red shirt, so you just if they're good to go,
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you play them, and maybe that will increase some of
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the numbers as well, because you might get you might
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get sixty snaps or you know, say forty snaps, but
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those are in four games and then you're done for
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the regular season. Now, maybe they can sneak them in
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there and they don't have to worry about who's not
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going to be or who's out there. But that twenty
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two class of Gyre and Dalan Hayden, Wow, Yeah, that's
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I'm looking at on the list that I have I
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put together from since twenty nineteen. And if I were
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to read it all to you, I'd be like, tell
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me which of these names don't belong or you know,
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stick out for the wrong reasons, And it would be
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two of
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those guys for sure. And you mentioned that
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you went back to twenty twenty two and you gave
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us the numbers of each of those classes, and then
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you go back to twenty twenty one, and there are
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eight guys, eight true freshmen in that class that played
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over one hundred snaps, And I'm gonna give them to you.
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Trevon Henderson, Marvin Harrison, Amecca Abuka, Donovan Jackson, j T Twee,
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Molowaw Jack Sawyer, Tyler Williams, Denzel Burke, eight NFL players,
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most of them drafted in the first half of the
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NFL Draft. And that's also the what six or seven
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of those guys were instrumental in Ohio State's national title
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in twenty twenty four, with the only guy there not
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there is Marvin Harrison, who left early. But I don't
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know if a bunch of freshmen playing is always a
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sign that when they're seniors they're gonna be good, because shoot,
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if you're playing a bunch of freshmen, they might be
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so good they won't see us senior year. But this
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is clearly this class here twenty twenty one, as we know,
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I'm not breaking any news here, very instrumental in the
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national title in twenty twenty.
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Four, no doubt, no doubt, and five of those guys
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five stars when we look just a couple of them
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in Denzel and ty Leak outside the top two hundred
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in the country.
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I mean.
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An instance where, without a doubt, man, that those recruiting
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rankings were spot on that year. And of course Ohio
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State plays a big part in making those recruiting rankings
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come true as well. But yeah, man, you could certainly
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see that they respected those guys right off the rip,
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that they came in ready to play. And I think
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that's something that you and I both noticed. Even with
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this this freshman class this year is quite a few
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of these dudes, maybe more than usual look ready to
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roll right off the rip, and I think that that
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is definitely something that stood out even compared to last year.
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And I thought the class of twenty twenty five was
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a really nice looking class.
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Yeah, it's going to be interesting how we will go
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through these positionally and see what we think, because there's
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also depth, a lot of depth behind the freshman class
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or in front of the freshman class, which is going
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to be hard for them right to make it on
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the field. I will say also, twenty twenty had two
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players Jackson Smith and Jigba and Julian Fleming. Twenty nineteen
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class had four Garrett Wilson, Zach Harrison, Harry Miller, and
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Jamison Williams, who played a bunch of Ohio State but
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never got the ball. And it's pretty funny that he
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had played. He played more snaps than a Mecca Luka
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as true freshman, and you just you wouldn't think it
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based on the way things went. But also they played
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they played a bunch of snaps in the Ohio State
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offense in twenty nineteen, that's true, and played a good
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number of games. But yeah, Harry Miller and Donovan Jackson
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the only two offensive linemen in the Ryan day head
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coaching era to hit that one hundred snap mark and
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we'll talk a little bit to see. Yeah, that brings up.
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Maybe the most interesting Why don't we start right with
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it with the offensive line and Sam Greer. As we
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look at this offensive line, Sam Greer, I think, is
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you know, you look at the top three tackles on
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the team. You got Austin Sarahbeld who, whether he plays
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tackle or not, between him, Ian Moore and Phil Daniels
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is definitively the top three. I think in the spring
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what we saw was Deontae Armstrong outperformed Carter Lowe and
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Sam Greer outperformed both of them. And I don't see
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any reason why we're not going to roll in to
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camp and feel the same way, maybe even in a stronger,
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you know, stronger about that. So that puts Sam Greer
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as you're will say, you know, definitive fourth in that scenario.
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And if he is your definitive fourth and you're.
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Looking at next year, I'm thinking you're gonna want to
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get him some reps and I think that he is
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probably ready, And I don't know, ton I think I
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might bet on him getting that one hundred snaps and
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joining Harry Miller and Donald.
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That's that's interesting. I was just looking back at twenty
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twenty four when there were maybe four tackles, but also
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the numbers are skewed because of Josh Simmons' injury. But
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even like a guy like George Fitzpatrick played eighty four
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snaps that year sixteen games, I would say I would
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say eighty four is more likely than one hundred or
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Sam Greer. But you're right in terms of if he's
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going to be in the lineup next year, you're going
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to want to know as much about him as possible.
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And but also you may be returning you're starting left
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tackle and right tackle next year. When you're talking about
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Ian Moore and Philip Daniels because they both will have
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eligibility remaining. But if you want to have your best
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five you want, you're going to want to get as
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much information. So I will say I will take the
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under on one hundred from Sam Greer. I don't know
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that we need to spend too much time on tight
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end in terms in terms of that, because even though
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Nate Roberts did it last year, I think he was
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the only one of the tight ends in this span
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to go over one hundred snaps.
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But I will say, if if you were just to say,
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pick another one out of the last five seven years,
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I think Nick Laud would be pretty damn close to
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Sam in my opinion, just to say I don't think
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he's going to.
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Do it this year either, I agree with you. But
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he's looking great.
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Yeah, because I mean, you've got four ahead of him
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at this point, and it's and and two older guys
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who are also ahead of him. Yeah, and he's working
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his way up from seven to to whatever. So that's
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that's just a tough ask unless he's the best fullback
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on the team. But I think a lot of people
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are wanting to talk about receiver, and that's kind of
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where I initially went when I was thinking about this,
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and Chris Henry Jr. I think we just go ahead
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and put him in there. I think I think he's
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he's a lock for that. And after doing all of
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this research and looking at all these names, the receivers
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like Julian Fleming playing as much as he did in
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twenty twenty and and that was a COVID year, and
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the Jamison Williams like if not that, I was on
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the the fence about brock Boyd. But I'm way over
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the fence now in terms of one hundred snaps. I
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think the other the real question is can can your
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Quighton Guilford get there?
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That's that's right where I'm totally with you. Easy over
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for Chris, easy over for Brock. I think they'll both
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be uh, you know, guys, that are you know, part
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of this offense, not just we're trying to get this
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guy some playing time and Dreck Quayden. Now when you look,
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is he you know, after Philip Bell puts him at number.
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What what are we add a number eighth?
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And now we're getting into all right now you're kind
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of forcing it to get him these snaps, and that
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to me is someone who's probably and I think, and
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I talked about this recently that the fact that he
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wasn't really spoken about a whole lot this spring had
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so much more to do with Chris and Brock massively.
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Obviously, Brock took.
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All the air out of the building in the first
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couple of weeks of spring, and then Chris came on.
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But Jack Quadon Guildford looked really, really good. He looked like,
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oh wow, that's a dude right there, and he performed
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really well, but it just wasn't making the headlines like
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those who were. But I think that I
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settle into a seventy five over under for him. So
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I'm gonna take the under one hundred, but definitely over
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for Brock and Chris.
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Yeah. No, I'm with you on that one. I was
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looking at the last two years, five receivers total have
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been over one hundred, but that's the Brian hartline rotation.
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Cortes han Yeah, Cortez Hankton will play more, guys. You know,
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I don't know how much deeper they'll go past five,
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but I think those five will play more than they
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did they have in the past. And you know, if
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Quincy Porter played fifty seven snaps last year, got a
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little bit banged up, David Adolf played ninety eight, so
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he almost hit that that that helps that he started
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a game and got like fifty snaps in one of
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those games, right, But I'm I think seventy five. I
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think that would be a very good number for jack
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Quad and Guildford as your number three freshman Max geting
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some snaps. Yeah, so, and then moving to running back,
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it's it's one of two guys. It's Legend Beay is
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certainly for me over Favorite Key, certainly for me under
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right now, because he's the what the sixth guy? So
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we we did a show, you and I did a
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show on what we expect from Legend Bay. You can
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go find that in the Buckeye Weekly Feed. But I
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don't know, give me, give me an over under on
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how many snaps for Legend Bay this year, because are
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you disagreeing with me that he's gonna go over one hundred?
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Are you right now are you putting your foot down
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and saying no to Legend Bay playing this year over
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one hundred snaps?
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I think we put the we put the line at
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what six touches a game?
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So if we're talking six touches, we're way over right.
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We're like, like, what twenty five, two fifty eight? If
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he why can't he do what Dylan Hayden did?
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Right there you go.
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But I'm also with you with Favorite Key, who I
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thought really was impressive in the spring.
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But he's got, you know.
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Obviously, just a pile of dudes ahead of him that
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are grown men. And he was seventeen in the spring,
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so he's kind of ways to go, probably about one
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hundred and eighty five pounds. Then we'll see what he
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put on over the summer. He's probably quite a bit bigger.
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He's a freak athlete. He'll be really good at some point,
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but not gonna happen for him this year. So with
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you on the over for legend and the under.
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For favor, do we need to talk about quarterback or
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should we move to defense? Because I don't see Luke
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Faye getting one hundred snaps unless there is something tragic, drastic,
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whatever going on. I just don't see it for him.
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All got to go to all gotta go to Tavian. Yeah,
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so defensive line, give me your thoughts.
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So, man, this one's tough because you've got three guys
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that all three you know, actually the two that look
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more physically ready right now. Jamiir Perez certainly, who came
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in at three point sixty is now at three but leaner,
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and you know it was just baby fat, and he's
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moving a lot better and he certainly looks ready. And
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then you got a manual ruffin at three hundred pounds.
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He's so long, moving really really fast. But both of
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us were most impressed with the Mary Simeon. Of the
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three of them over the spring, one of the players
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that is that I'm looking most forward to seeing this week,
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to see if we come away from this week's camp
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feeling the same way that we did coming out of
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spring with those three guys. So if we're going off that,
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I'm going to take just one of these guys over.
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I can't see more than one of them getting it,
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So I'm going to have to go with the Maury
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Simeon for my over because I just think he looks
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the most ready to make an impact.
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Last year, they had four defensive tackles go over one
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hundred snaps, and it was the four that you know,
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Will Smith, Taiwan Malone, edarck Houston and Kayden mcdonay, Ronald
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Jark Quiz Carter with fifty one as a freshman trade
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you note him ten and the other freshman you know him.
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He loves Maxwell Roy. Yeah, I was gonna say Max Riley,
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and I knew it wasn't right. He's of course, he
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did not play and he's off to UCLA, if I recall. So,
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I think if Carter wouldn't have been injured, he could
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have really gotten close to one hundred snaps and he
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was I mean, he was the number five defensive tackle.
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He moved past Jason Moore, so that possibility was there.
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I am with you. I want to see more from
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Damari Simeon to see if this was just a couple
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of really good spring practices and see where he is now.
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In twenty twenty four, they had five defensive tackles go
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over on there, one hundred snaps and you had Taiwan
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Malone at ninety five. So there is a possibility there
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for one of these freshmen to get in there. I'm
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gonna I'm going to stay. I'm gonna say no on
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any of those guys.
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You know, I want to change my vote, Tony, Okay,
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because here's why. Because I I think that what we're
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gonna see is by the time we get to the season,
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Uh well, I feel, you know, great about Demory being
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able to do that right now, like one of these
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one of these other two potentially both of them also
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get up to that level. Yeah, and then it splits
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the snaps between because they want them all to go
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get twenty five thirty snaps and and it and it
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just eats into what one of them could potentially do,
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so all in all, it's a it's a better thing
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that they're all getting in there because they're all ready
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to handle it, at least two of them.
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But I think that.
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Takes Damori unders, so I'm gonna go under for all
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three of these guys.
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Yeah, And I think right Larry Johnson would take that
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as well, as long as he's as long as they
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getting some from something from Jason Moore, you know, that
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would be great if if that happened.
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Do you want to do the Jason Moore over under
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one hundred snaps?
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We'll move on. We don't need that. But yeah, I
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like that thought that they're just gonna take snaps away
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from each other. And frankly, if they do, that's good. Yeah,
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and you go from there defensive end the way I
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see it, And I'm gonna have Cary Wilder over that number.
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I think this is what This is something that Tom
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and I have been talking about. If he can if
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you can get what you got out of Zion Grady
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last year in terms of snaps, and that was I
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think a one hundred and three or one hundred and
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four snaps last year, they and I think you would
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probably do more with him because he's more physically ready
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than Zion Grady was last year. I think he is
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the easiest pick. Do you do you agree? Do you
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see anybody else getting there? Because I think Drake Quinn
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needs some time.
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Uh Dre definitely need some time. And Cary I am
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like his jersey, he is right here. I'm so high
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on this kid, Like, I mean, comparing him to his
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Ion Grady is like, that's not even a comp really,
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but he has more guys ahead of him. But just
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like from the from the standpoint of like coming in
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ready to go, this kid, I mean he's already over Grady.
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To me, I absolutely think there there's no way, there's
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no way, barring injury, that they don't get him on
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the field because he is just that exciting and it's
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gonna be something.
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I think he might even hit two hundred.
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Wow. So if I were to say, you know, put
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the number at one fifty, you're going over that.
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I'm going
over one fifty for sure.
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Okay, all right, I'm looking right now to see what
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the total snaps for Chase Young as a true freshman
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were in twenty seventeen, and it was one hundred and
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ninety six. Okay, so that's all. That's all you got
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to live up to, just a little bit of Chase Young,
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big deal. And the crazy thing about that year is
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you had Jalen Holmes, you had Nick Bosa, Sam Hubbard,
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Taekwon Lewis. Now the good thing is they also played inside.
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And the most amazing thing that I always bring up
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about those four and their snap counts that year in
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twenty seventeen. So Taekwon Lewis five hundred and thirty four snaps,
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Sam Hubbard five hundred and thirty four snaps, Nick Bosa
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five hundred and thirty seven snaps, Jalen Holmes five hundred
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and forty two snaps. Those guys were awesome and they
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could just play wherever. And Larry Johnson just you know,
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he I'm sure he had a spreadsheet going in terms
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of all right, you're in there now, now your turn linebackers,
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what are you thinking?
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Yeah, so you got three guys and sincere Johnson, cj
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SONA in Braxton. Remember Braxton is going to miss the
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first first three weeks of camp here, which you know
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he missed summer spring as well. So that to me,
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and obviously he's still got weight to gain he's only
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at two fifteen.
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Now, so that one's not really coming close.
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Sana missed quite a bit of spring, and he's got
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to get quite a bit bigger too, So I don't
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think we're close there.
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And the room is so deep that is ready as
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Sincere is. I just don't know. I just don't know
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that we see it.
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And I don't know if maybe Garrett Stover isn't a
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guy that's kind of a bit of a roadblock this
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year as an ironbuck guy and a guy that everybody loves,
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and maybe they you know, even though if since Youre's
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better and readymore, maybe it's just a little bit of
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a pacification like we see sometimes I'm I think I'm
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gonna go under, But man, I think this is close.
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I think it's similar to Riley Petti. Johnh Way had
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seventy seven or eighty one snaps last year.
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You know.
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It's interesting, you know, And the comparisons to Arvel Reese
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are fine. I want people to remember Arvel Reese did
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not play a defensive snap as a true freshman. So
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if Sincere does not play a defensive snap this year,
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you don't need to call them a bust. It's okay,
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but looking through this list since twenty nineteen, there's not
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a single linebacker that has hit one hundred snaps.
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There we go.
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And that's the same for quarterback as well. And to
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give you an idea that it is not easy and
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generally there's somebody going to be in front of you,
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and that's certainly the case now as they have what
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four linebackers that could be starting that they're trying to
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figure out how they're going to get everybody on the field.
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So yeah, I'm going to go with you. I don't
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think anybody's going to get there. And again, this is
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one of those if somebody does, then something has gone wrong,
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right in terms of an injury or something like that,
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and maybe more than just one something has gone wrong
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because of the depth that they have secondary. How do
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you see it?
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Well, I see us with.
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Three candidates here and that is Blaine brad for, Jay Timmins,
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and Jordan Thomas. Now all three of them at different positions.
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As Jay Timmins, we'll start with him. I think Jay
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Timmins is gonna be the backup star. I think he's
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going to be your number two star, and I think
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that he is gonna go decently over this. I think
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you're gonna give up to one fifty one sixty ish
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and I think he's going to make some impact plays
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and be a guy that everybody is buzzing as as
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we head into the to the following year as a
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guy that you know, ready to ready to make a breakout.
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So I definitely feel good about the over for Jay Timmins.
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What do you think it's gonna be interesting? Because I
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agree he's probably your backup nickel. But if something happens
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to earl little the nickel I think becomes Jermaine Matthews
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and then Jay Timmins stays the backup nickel, that sort
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of thing, or if he's so good that they're just like, no,
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we're ready to go. We don't want to move anybody
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else that things out through the corners. If they if
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they moved Jamie Matthews, I'm with you based on everything
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that people are saying about him inside the building. They
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they really really like him. They wont him on the field.
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The only thing is he's a true freshman and there
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are people in front of him, but he is your
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football players football player type of guy and a guy
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that you can trust like a Jalen McLain as a
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true freshman, he went over one hundred snaps, just somebody
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that is doesn't shy away from anything. And as a
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freshman nickel cornerback who's I don't know, one hundred and
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ninety one pounds or whatever like that, he plays like
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he's two forty and that's somebody that you can always use.
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So I will also go over. I don't think it's
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going to be massively over unless unless maybe they do.
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They're just trying to get more guys out there, and
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like when a game feels more comfortable or feels comfortable
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but not as comfortable as they'd like it to be
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in the past, if it's only twenty one instead of
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forty two or whatever, before they start putting some guys
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out there, but the first year that you trust, go
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ahead and throw them out there, right, that's just right.
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But I want to share this with everybody watching just
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because I thought it was so amazing as you look
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at rivals last two years and number one, the fact
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that Ohio State was able to get the number one
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cornerback in the class two years in a row in
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Devin Sanchez and then Jay Timmons be a rival's internal ranking.
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I was watching those two have a conversation together at
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a camp we were at.
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Standing next to each other.
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You would never believe that those two play the same
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position if you didn't know who they were, because Devin
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is obviously just a massive corner and he's really putting
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on some serious mass now.
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And Jay is just not a big guy.
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And I think that speaks to just how great of
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a football player he is that when we look at
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top ranked corners anymore, they're all six to two six'.
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Three jay is not that and to be that well
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Respected Charles power called him the pound for pound best
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player in the country last year is pretty. Incredible and
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obviously we know he's turned some heads already since he's been,
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there SO.
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I think that's.
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Awesome moving on to corner With Jordan, thomas and this
488
00:26:15.200 --> 00:26:18.000
an outside. Corner as you look at the depth chart
489
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With Jermaine, Matthews Devin, Sanchez Dominic, kelly pretty definitive number,
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Three Cam calhoun Or Jordan, thomas where are you at?
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THERE i think by the end of the season It's Jordan,
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thomas and maybe by the middle of the season It's
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Jordan thomas And Cam calhoun has more, Time he's got
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another year if he wants. It i'm just looking now
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00:26:42.799 --> 00:26:45.440
Like Aaron scott had one hundred and six naps last,
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year AND i, like why Can't Jordan thomas do? That
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that's kind of HOW i view, This SO i think
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to start, out you may see them ease in to
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the true freshmen and rely on the fourth year guy
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who has been around some. Programs but As Jordan, thomas
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00:27:02.599 --> 00:27:04.559
he was banged up in the spring as. Well as
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long as he stays, HEALTHY i think he eventually catches
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and passes Camp. Calhoun AND i
think if they play
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fifteen sixteen games THAT i can see him hitting that
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one hundred. Mark what about?
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You, YEAH i feel like it's it's so, close, MAN
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i feel like It's razor's. Edge speaking of the, physicality
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00:27:23.599 --> 00:27:27.200
built much more Like Devin sanchez as far as, like,
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00:27:27.880 --> 00:27:31.400
uh just a twitched up. Athlete this was top one hundred,
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00:27:31.480 --> 00:27:33.759
kid but a five star athlete in my. BOOK i
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00:27:33.839 --> 00:27:36.200
mean watching him move around was, like oh that's. Different
512
00:27:36.240 --> 00:27:39.759
that's a different one right. There SO i totally believe in. Him,
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Obviously he's an awesome, kid uh and straight a student like,
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this this is gonna be a dude for The, buckeyes
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AND i think that kids like that generally excel.
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Early So i'm gonna go.
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00:27:51.200 --> 00:27:55.839
With Jordan thomas over one hundred snaps and Then Blaine
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bradford as a backup.
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00:27:58.319 --> 00:28:00.839
Safety it's it's not a new usual for the backup
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00:28:00.880 --> 00:28:03.440
safety to get one hundred. Snaps last year for, Him
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00:28:03.440 --> 00:28:06.039
delane And Leroy roker as the backups got eighty one
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00:28:07.039 --> 00:28:11.200
and they only. Played Leroy roker played one game in
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the final three for, Him delane did not play Any
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00:28:14.440 --> 00:28:18.799
SO i think It's we've seen freshman by back the
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number two guy at safety a number of times over the,
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years including last, year SO i THINK i think one
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00:28:26.119 --> 00:28:30.240
hundred is very. ATTAINABLE i think that's a Good i'd
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say if you set the number at the eighty one
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00:28:32.559 --> 00:28:36.039
that the backups had last, Year i'd probably go over.
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00:28:36.079 --> 00:28:39.400
That AND i also wonder how much do you want
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to Play Leroy roker in complete blowouts because he is
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a valuable member and assuming he doesn't win the job
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00:28:45.559 --> 00:28:47.839
From Terry, Moore but either of those guys whoever does
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00:28:47.880 --> 00:28:50.160
not win that, job are you going to have them
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00:28:50.160 --> 00:28:52.200
in the fourth quarter when it's sixty two to three
536
00:28:52.240 --> 00:28:54.680
over Over, ballstate like probably.
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00:28:54.240 --> 00:28:59.160
Not, yeah, YEAH i mean like number, one he is
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00:28:59.640 --> 00:29:02.119
ready to, go, Right he's physically ready to, go that's for,
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00:29:02.200 --> 00:29:06.119
sure really, smart been performing well since he's been on.
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00:29:06.160 --> 00:29:09.039
Campus and then WHEN i look at next, year this
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is the guy that's gonna be relied heavy upon next,
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year AND i think all that factors. In so without a,
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00:29:15.960 --> 00:29:18.279
DOUBT i think that That blaine is going to hit
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that as.
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00:29:18.559 --> 00:29:20.640
WELL i think this is going to be one of.
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THEM i, mean if we're to put a confidence rating
547
00:29:23.000 --> 00:29:25.640
on all, These i'd feel pretty darn confident About blaine
548
00:29:25.680 --> 00:29:28.480
being one of. These probably my top three of the
549
00:29:28.519 --> 00:29:30.240
guys THAT i think are gonna go over.
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00:29:30.279 --> 00:29:32.599
This do you think they learned any of their lessons
551
00:29:32.599 --> 00:29:35.640
from The Fahim delayne thing last year where maybe if
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00:29:35.640 --> 00:29:38.039
they would played him more he would have wanted to,
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00:29:38.119 --> 00:29:40.319
stay or if they played him, more would he just
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00:29:40.359 --> 00:29:42.920
be more? Expensive and so this is somebody that you
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00:29:43.000 --> 00:29:48.000
have to commit to, time, energy and, money because this
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00:29:48.079 --> 00:29:50.440
is something we said after a, season you need to
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00:29:50.440 --> 00:29:52.960
play these, Guys so you need to so you know
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00:29:53.119 --> 00:29:56.119
whether or not you need to pay. Them, basically the
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00:29:56.119 --> 00:29:58.559
more you know about these. Freshmen the more you, know, like, yeah,
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00:29:58.599 --> 00:30:01.640
okay well we'll go ahead and we'll go ahead and
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00:30:01.680 --> 00:30:04.920
pay up and pay them like a starter because he's
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probably going to. Start they can't afford to let any safeties,
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go i'd say after this season because they may be
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losing all three of.
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Them it's.
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Tight it's, tight and again just two committed in the
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class of twenty twenty. Seven one of Them Angelo, smith
568
00:30:19.759 --> 00:30:22.319
who's a bit of a flyer unless he hits a gross.
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00:30:22.319 --> 00:30:23.240
Spurt Eli.
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Johnson you, know he's physically, ready looks like he's gonna be.
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00:30:26.440 --> 00:30:29.400
Ready but, hopefully you, know they'll be looking after these
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00:30:29.400 --> 00:30:31.279
first three weeks of high school film to try and
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see what they can. Snag but it's tight and tighter
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than it WAS i, think you know last, year and
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00:30:37.759 --> 00:30:40.160
maybe not maybe not numbers, wise your felt if it
576
00:30:40.200 --> 00:30:43.599
feels tighter now than it did. Then but with The
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00:30:43.680 --> 00:30:47.160
king delayne it's you, know that was a situation That,
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00:30:47.359 --> 00:30:50.559
YEAH i remember we were talking immediately after that on the, show, like,
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00:30:50.599 --> 00:30:53.480
man you got to play these guys sport at least
580
00:30:53.680 --> 00:30:55.880
for yourself to know like is this a guy we
581
00:30:55.880 --> 00:30:59.559
should invest? In it just didn't feel like we felt
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him enough out, there but when he was.
583
00:31:02.240 --> 00:31:03.880
Out, there played pretty damn.
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00:31:03.960 --> 00:31:07.920
Solid so, DEFINITELY i think that is that is factoring
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00:31:07.920 --> 00:31:10.960
into the equation moving forward in all these decisions with
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00:31:11.000 --> 00:31:14.440
these young, guys which is WHY i feel more confident
587
00:31:15.079 --> 00:31:16.720
taking the over on quite a few of them.
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Here AND i, think AS i look at, this do
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you have any more to? That is that all we? Got?
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00:31:21.039 --> 00:31:23.519
NO i think that's that's also how many? Total did you?
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Have over one?
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Hundred all?
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Right that? List?
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Yeah SO i Had, Legend bay Brock, Boyd Chris Henry,
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Junior Sam.
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Greer that's four on offense and on.
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DEFENSE i Had Jordan, Thomas Jay, Timmins Blaine, bradford And Carry.
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Wilder all, right so that's, eight matching the eight from
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twenty twenty, one which means in twenty twenty, Nine Ohio
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state will win a national.
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00:31:52.160 --> 00:31:55.920
Championship, HEY i like the sound of.
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00:31:55.960 --> 00:31:59.279
That you just got to stay, patient, folks and hope
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that these guys are, good but not so good that
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00:32:01.920 --> 00:32:04.359
they leave, early just good enough to stick around and
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be outstanding. Seniors that is the magical. Formula anything else
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before we, go that'll do.
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It my man appreciate, it all.
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Right so there you. Go if you are watching going
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we will talk to you.
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Later we away the. LOANS i, MEAN i wish you'd
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never done nothing to me
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Where if you can tell me that's the mots all,
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