Pełna transkrypcja odcinka They’re Redefining “Biological Truth.” Here’s Why It’s Dangerous.

been waking up hoping for a sunrise and news of Trump's death, and it's like instead we get more rain and terrible bills. 00:02:26.319 --> 00:02:27.759 What what is the Louisiana one called? 00:02:28.080 --> 00:02:31.120 Restoring Biological Truth Act? 00:02:31.680 --> 00:02:58.000 Yes, HB 578, and it it really, I mean, it starts with this, and it really is only possible, well, it's it's it's basically sort of the the gen the generic bill or effort to to sort of um cut all of the like connective tissue between gender identity and freedom of speech. 00:02:58.400 --> 00:03:00.719 And and which is also freedom of expression. 00:03:00.800 --> 00:03:02.240 Like you can dress however you want. 00:03:02.319 --> 00:03:05.919 That's considered speech, obviously, even though it's not literally speaking. 00:03:06.319 --> 00:03:19.199 Uh and and so they're basically saying we want you to respect your own um, you know, respect the the natural body that you were born into, and you know, uh respect your own gender. 00:03:19.360 --> 00:03:22.719 So Restoring Biological Truth Act, uh, and opponent. 00:03:23.039 --> 00:03:31.840 I'm assuming that so then bans glasses and coloring your hair and getting tattoos, and if they're gonna insist on the that's exactly what it does, but only if you're trans. 00:03:32.080 --> 00:03:33.120 Only if you're trans. 00:03:33.520 --> 00:03:34.000 Uh yeah. 00:03:34.560 --> 00:03:42.240 Proponents are uh opponents are describing the bill as it's basically uh effectively erasing trans people from state law, which it does. 00:03:42.319 --> 00:04:03.919 And it's kind of a step B, it's a the trans vers trans-specific version of the anti-DEI laws and policies that they were using to limit funding, cut off access to insurance, uh, cut off how um discrimination, non-discrimination protections like housing and job security, all these different things. 00:04:04.000 --> 00:04:16.639 And the bill would define sex throughout Louisiana State as uh basic basically as an individual's biological sex, either male or female, as observed clinically at birth. 00:04:17.120 --> 00:04:28.000 Um you know, and and they also have removal of gender, which is again kind of in line with all of the anti-DEI policies that they had. 00:04:28.240 --> 00:04:38.639 Removal of gender, uh, and it basically removes the term gender, gender identity, any of that stuff from state statutes, laws, protections, all that stuff, and replaces it with sex. 00:04:38.720 --> 00:04:51.920 And so it it because it knows that gender is they're realizing that gender, even though people, many people kind of use gender and sex interchangeably, and while they are related, they are not necessarily, they are not the same thing. 00:04:52.240 --> 00:05:24.160 Sex describes sort of biological characteristics and you know, like your genitalia, your your your sort of chromosomes, biological characteristics, and gender is all of the social characteristics that come with man, woman, sexy man, fat woman, this person, tall man, trans man, whatever, um, and all of the things that you have to do, manly, masculine, those are all things that we think about sex and gender sex particularly. 00:05:24.639 --> 00:05:28.480 Um, but it's not sex is actually a biological thing. 00:05:28.639 --> 00:05:42.560 Anyway, and so you know, going back and instead of having gender on your marker or gender on your birth birth certificate or gender on your um driver's license, it would be sex, which it was a long time ago. 00:05:42.879 --> 00:05:58.079 Somebody, I think, in an attempt to feel um not more inclusive, but just more evolved, um started repla started using gender in a like sort of in an umbrella sort of way, I think. 00:05:58.480 --> 00:05:58.800 Yeah. 00:05:59.040 --> 00:05:59.360 Yeah. 00:05:59.439 --> 00:06:02.560 I mean, I think it's you know, we're seeing this that this attack on documents. 00:06:02.720 --> 00:06:08.319 I mean, you were talking about it a couple of weeks ago, how that makes so many other things impossible, right? 00:06:08.399 --> 00:06:16.240 That this like removing trans people's access to accurate documents makes it impossible to drive, impossible to keep your job, impossible to get your licenses. 00:06:16.480 --> 00:06:33.199 And now in Mississippi, the change that they're doing, the new addition is that as of July 1st, if your ID does not match your sex at birth, again, that that sex at birth that's now being stuck on everything, the cops are required to report you to ICE. 00:06:33.519 --> 00:06:34.160 It's horrific. 00:06:34.240 --> 00:06:45.680 All of it is horrific, but it really shows you the way in which like Trump is treating ICE as his like private personal police force that they are being used to do whatever he wants them to do. 00:06:45.920 --> 00:07:02.560 Uh and and I think for a lot of people, um, this is yet again another another instance of the the far right kind of like linking arms, the anti-immigration forces with the anti-trans forces, uh, all sort of coming together in in a terrible way. 00:07:02.879 --> 00:07:07.759 I hope that that what you said is that it's a clear example of me, because it's not new. 00:07:07.839 --> 00:07:29.600 This is exactly word for word, verbatim, what I was saying several months ago when they at the beginning of the year, when they uh actually it was at the very end of the year when they um sort of enhanced this uh the directive of ICE to not only and you know ICE operates within the country, but board the border security is literally the borders of the country. 00:07:29.839 --> 00:07:47.279 So it's so strange that like that ICE needs to be operating within people at schools and playgrounds, but we know that it's not about border security, but they are saying, you know, they they used immigration um to attach and attack trans people initially. 00:07:47.360 --> 00:07:51.199 And so they before they were saying violent rapists and criminals and drug dealers. 00:07:51.279 -->

00:07:58.160 Then they were like violent rapists and criminals and drug dealers who are also just here illegally, even if they haven't been doing drugs and being raping. 00:07:58.480 --> 00:08:01.920 And then they're just saying, actually, just undocumented immigrants. 00:08:02.079 --> 00:08:03.600 Now it's just immigrants. 00:08:03.839 --> 00:08:16.399 Now then it was if you look like an immigrant, and they're you know, because they they actually said to ICE, you can go out and racially profile, go out and find people who look Hispanic, whether they are or not, and it'll come out in the wash. 00:08:16.560 --> 00:08:26.959 Obviously, that's when the numbers of people that they were detaining, American citizens and people who are not even immigrants necessarily, were s being detained by ICE. 00:08:27.279 --> 00:08:48.879 And then to furthermore, especially because there were many trans people who got arrested at the same time or detained or even deported um by ICE, uh, they they s they sort of enhanced and widened that scope to include people whose documents just don't match whether they're it's their citizenship document or not. 00:08:49.200 --> 00:09:04.960 And they were, I guess it's under the guise of we're doing such a good job of deporting people that illegal immigrants who are all drug dealers and rapists are probably gonna try to change their sex to evade being caught. 00:09:05.039 --> 00:09:07.039 So now we need to go after trans people too. 00:09:07.360 --> 00:09:08.240 Wink wink. 00:09:08.639 --> 00:09:10.799 And so they swept us up in that. 00:09:11.120 --> 00:09:33.840 Um and and you know, trans issues and immigration issues are the only two issues that they need to, if they can erase every right that trans people have and every right specific to the trans community and every right that immigrants have specific to the immigration uh issue, if they can erase all those things, all of our constitutional rights are out the window. 00:09:34.159 --> 00:09:55.120 Because that is your right to freedom of speech and protest, it's your right to uh assemble, it's your right to travel, it's your right to express the way you want, like freedom of um of ex like gender affirming care, uh gender expression, wearing the clothes you want, uh being trans and expressing that, which is what they're trying to tell you is illegal now. 00:09:55.440 --> 00:09:58.799 You can't do uh in Louisiana, uh that's freedom of speech. 00:09:59.200 --> 00:10:10.879 Freedom of speech is one of the is one of the most important the the right to marry someone of an opposite of a different um race, like interracial marriage, that's considered freedom of speech and freedom of privacy. 00:10:11.039 --> 00:10:13.519 They all go under the same constitutional protections. 00:10:13.759 --> 00:10:19.519 And so getting rid of freedom of speech for one group means getting rid of freedom of the rights to privacy for another. 00:10:19.759 --> 00:10:21.679 And I don't think that people understand that. 00:10:22.000 --> 00:10:23.519 No, I think you're absolutely right. 00:10:23.600 --> 00:10:31.440 And I think that this is uh what is what they are building, the machine that they are building in little pieces by little pieces is absolutely terrible. 00:10:31.759 --> 00:10:42.960 And I think that most people don't understand that like the the sort of like um uh entanglement of trans rights and immigration rights goes back like literally hundreds of years. 00:10:43.120 --> 00:10:54.000 There's this a fantastic book by Margot Kenneday called The Straight State, where she sort of analyzes how America as a government comes to think about gender and sexuality and gender identity. 00:10:54.159 --> 00:10:58.159 And one of the things she targets is that we think, you know, oh, the the military. 00:10:58.240 --> 00:11:01.759 There were all these bans on gay people in the military, trans people in the military. 00:11:01.919 --> 00:11:13.919 But long before that, the US government first really started thinking about what it means to be trans or what it means to have a body assigned a gender at sex or at birth, however you want to think about it, through immigration. 00:11:14.000 --> 00:11:26.399 Because our earliest immigration laws basically said uh before that we had some racial immigration, the Chinese Exclusion Act, but one of the earliest sets of laws were really around could you have an income? 00:11:26.720 --> 00:11:32.879 You were not accepted as an immigrant if you were assumed that you would not be able to support yourself when you got here. 00:11:33.039 --> 00:11:48.799 And what the government used that to think about, or what they how they applied it to queer people, is that they said, if you were coming in as a woman, but were not womanly enough to ever get married, well then you were gonna end up uh on welfare and you were gonna drain money from the state. 00:11:48.960 --> 00:11:56.320 If you were coming into the country as a man, but you weren't manly enough to get a good job, well then you were going to end up a ward of the state. 00:11:56.480 --> 00:12:08.080 And so long before we were ever thinking about queer people in the military, we were judging people's bodies and gender performances at immigration at Ellis Island and determining are you allowed into this country? 00:12:08.240 --> 00:12:16.480 And all of it sort of entangled again with capitalism and your ability to earn money for the state and your ability to present your gender and your body as appropriate. 00:12:16.639 --> 00:12:20.240 And that's back to like the late 1800s, early 1900s. 00:12:20.399 --> 00:12:30.320 So for people out there who are thinking about this as a new issue, just gonna say like this has been something the government has been doing in different ways at different times, but like for hundreds of years. 00:12:30.559 --> 00:12:33.279 So these issues have gone together forever. 00:12:33.440 --> 00:12:37.759 And I think that, like you said, I hope

more people are seeing that they go together now. 00:12:38.080 --> 00:12:42.879 Yeah, but we were able to bust that up because they weren't able to do that as effectively in the 80s and 90s. 00:12:43.120 --> 00:12:45.360 What started to happen is people started to get more quality. 00:12:45.440 --> 00:13:04.399 So between the 60s and then the 90s, the late 90s, early 2000s, it was probably in terms of this, if if they've been doing this all along, the best time to experience them not doing this would have been during the 60s, 70s, 80s, and 90s when civil rights were really, really making advances for women's rights were making advances, LGBT rights. 00:13:04.480 --> 00:13:14.399 It was the 60s, 70s, and 80s where gay rights, uh civil rights of people of color and women's rights, which are the three groups that they're that they're we're talking about here. 00:13:14.480 --> 00:13:24.000 Um 1989 is when they finally declared that it was okay to come in as a gay person, that being gay was not a sociopathic personality disorder that should prevent your immigration. 00:13:24.240 --> 00:13:24.399 Right. 00:13:24.480 --> 00:13:27.919 And I also want to talk beside that let's pause on the immigration piece for a second. 00:13:28.080 --> 00:13:44.720 The also um I don't want to leave out disabled people as well, uh, but those who who are also a group that might not be considered um assumed a good group of uh people to pull from when it comes to um making money for capitalism and being able to work, having a body that can work. 00:13:44.879 --> 00:14:02.559 Uh, but besides that, it's not even, it's also like the nationalist piece because what we were trying, what this country was trying to do is there was a right before that moment, between the 20s and well, like the late 1800s and late 40s, was a huge immigration uh rush into the country. 00:14:02.720 --> 00:14:14.320 You know, America really, really figured out what identity it was trying to have with this nationalist, let's bring everybody here and so bring us, you're tired, you're hungry, you're yearning to be free. 00:14:14.639 --> 00:14:21.360 But they th when they get through Ellis Island, the part that they weren't advertising, like you said, is you have to be able to work and produce. 00:14:21.440 --> 00:14:32.720 But besides that, they also wanted people that could reproduce, not only produce at work, but also people that could reproduce in the bedroom and have children who were born here who could who could also work. 00:14:32.879 --> 00:14:33.600 You know what I mean? 00:14:33.679 --> 00:14:44.399 And so that is another piece of the like cis, cisgender, heteronormative sort of like sort of nationalist view. 00:14:44.720 --> 00:15:04.000 And you know, that kind of lines up with what we're seeing now, you know, this clampdown on on and maybe it it always, I mean, of course, like reproductive access has been about the person's bodily autonomy and ability to make their own decisions and make their

own choices for their own body medically. 00:15:04.320 --> 00:15:20.000 But from the state, it clearly is about we want people that just make babies that are that that that we think are that we think fit into the the boxes that look the way we want them to and that can work and that we can make it. 00:15:20.159 --> 00:15:21.919 Good white babies for capitalism. 00:15:22.639 --> 00:15:23.039 Yeah. 00:15:23.279 --> 00:15:30.720 And and the in terms of capitalism, we not only do we need workers, but we also need future bosses. 00:15:30.879 --> 00:15:36.240 And I think that's w in the uh back in the day, they were thinking probably more in those two. 00:15:36.320 --> 00:15:39.200 I would think, I would assume they were thinking in those two boxes. 00:15:39.440 --> 00:15:42.480 We need workers and slaves, and we need bosses. 00:15:42.799 --> 00:15:49.200 Because in a hundred years, who's gonna take my over my business or who's gonna have the family thing? 00:15:49.440 --> 00:15:50.080 You know what I mean? 00:15:50.240 --> 00:15:53.759 And so those were the two, those were the two sets of babies that they wanted. 00:15:53.919 --> 00:16:13.600 Obviously, having immigrant babies and black babies, you know, just like forcing enslaved people to reproduce, even with their own, you know, like siblings and you know, trying to like forcing people to have sex with each other so they could get pregnant and constantly keep out pumping babies was about having people to work in the fields perpetually. 00:16:13.840 --> 00:16:19.440 But then also they wanted white babies who could, you know, be the bosses of the future. 00:16:19.679 --> 00:16:22.000 But now it almost doesn't matter. 00:16:22.080 --> 00:16:27.440 I think that they just want bodies that you know, I don't think they know who they want. 00:16:27.759 --> 00:16:33.279 Did you see Katie Miller, Stephen Miller's wife, who's you know, in the White House pushing for more teen pregnancies? 00:16:33.360 --> 00:16:41.600 I mean, the thing that I feel like in the 90s and early 2000s it was like everyone was against teen pregnancy, and now the complaint is not enough teens are getting pregnant. 00:16:41.759 --> 00:16:46.159 Uh it just shows you how no none of this stuff really matters at the end. 00:16:46.240 --> 00:16:50.080 You know, any of this morality or anything that they pretend or caring about kids, any of that. 00:16:50.159 --> 00:16:59.039 Really, it comes down to, like you said, it's like capitalism workers, the right kind of bodies, the right kind of um yeah, ability to to work for the state. 00:16:59.360 --> 00:17:00.960 I don't think it was against teen pregnancy. 00:17:01.039 --> 00:17:02.320 I know that we saw a lot of those things. 00:17:02.399 --> 00:17:09.200 I think that was the left saying no teen pregnancy because we don't want people to be, you know, like uh, you know, having issues and all that. 00:17:09.359 --> 00:17:17.039 I think they were saying it was about abortion and controlling who

could who could who could have an abortion or not. 00:17:17.200 --> 00:17:26.559 And so I think if abortion were not a topic or a hot topic as it is, then I think teen pregnancy would not have have been in the 90s as big of a talking point. 00:17:26.880 --> 00:17:32.400 Um, you know, because the teens were were having to choose between raising a baby or getting an abortion. 00:17:32.559 --> 00:17:42.400 And many of them were deciding to get an abortion because the push was, you know, it it could impact your your life in the future um and your career and all those things. 00:17:42.480 --> 00:17:54.880 So, you know, we don't want you to have to get an abortion if you're a teen, it's you know, um uh terrible to be in that situation, but um nevertheless, we want it to be available to everybody who needs it. 00:17:55.039 --> 00:17:57.119 And I think that that is what kicked off that conversation. 00:17:57.279 --> 00:18:00.240 So they want teens to get pregnant, they just don't want them to have abortions. 00:18:00.559 --> 00:18:15.039 I think it was also a time, you know, the the 90s is really the kind of the end of the period where the country as a whole was really pushing higher education as a role to or a mode to to promote whether you're on the left, on the right, that higher education was a good thing. 00:18:15.200 --> 00:18:17.920 Teen pregnancies prevented people getting higher education. 00:18:18.160 --> 00:18:20.960 Now it's part of this broader attack on higher education. 00:18:21.119 --> 00:18:31.599 You don't need to have a college degree, you need to have babies, you need to be back home in the kitchen, a trad wife, you know, and so I think we're we're just seeing all of that uh kind of knitting together. 00:18:31.759 --> 00:18:36.160 The the the right wing is coming together on so many different fronts, you know. 00:18:36.559 --> 00:18:44.799 It's wild that we um that, you know, I used to think of the country as like, oh, a place where you just America, you you come United States, I'll say. 00:18:44.960 --> 00:18:52.240 Um, you you you know come here and you live here, you're born here, whatever, and it's the home of the free and you can do what you want, and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. 00:18:52.559 --> 00:18:56.079 But it really does seem, and I it makes sense, of course. 00:18:56.240 --> 00:19:01.680 You know, the government is a a collection of all of us and should represent all of us. 00:19:01.839 --> 00:19:24.960 But it is wild that the the government initiatives and propaganda and how they talk about and what they value, whether it's teen pregnancy or not, or working in women working in the workforce or not, um, is so directly connected to you know what the state wants, what the state as in the country wants as opposed to what we want as individuals. 00:19:25.279 --> 00:19:28.720 Um, we need more workers. 00:19:29.039 --> 00:19:30.240 Yeah, we need more workers. 00:19:30.319 --> 00:19:30.880 Let's do this. 00:19:31.039 --> 00:19:35.119 And you know, shame them for not working, and then, oh shoot, we don't want any more workers, you know. 00:19:35.200 --> 00:19:37.039 Tell them shame them for not staying at home. 00:19:37.200 --> 00:19:39.440 Well, honey, you're it's just mixed signals. 00:19:39.680 --> 00:19:40.960 Yeah, make them in the mind. 00:19:41.759 --> 00:19:44.720 It's like the legalizing all these new child labor laws. 00:19:44.799 --> 00:19:46.720 You're like, do you want the children in the mines? 00:19:46.799 --> 00:19:48.319 I guess you do, apparently, it turns out. 00:19:48.559 --> 00:19:53.119 I want to talk about the trans mom who fled to Cuba when it comes to immigration. 00:19:53.359 --> 00:20:06.000 Um, it was a super complicated case, but a teen woman from Utah, I'm sorry, a trans woman, not a teen woman from Utah, um, who, you know, was, I think already we were in trouble, you know. 00:20:06.240 --> 00:20:25.440 Um, Inessa Etherington and her partner uh took their 10-year-old to Cuba and uh was allegedly a disgruntled family member that they were gonna start gender-affirming care and surgery for their 10-year-old, um, which is not, I don't think, accurate. 00:20:25.680 --> 00:20:32.319 Um anyway, no one knows, but it seems like highly unlikely that given that Cuba would not perform gender-affirming care for this person. 00:20:32.400 --> 00:20:32.960 So that's not true. 00:20:33.039 --> 00:20:37.920 But anyway, uh it was all based on misinformation and prejudice and whipped up hysteria. 00:20:38.160 --> 00:20:41.359 Uh and they claim that the person that the child was kidnapped. 00:20:41.519 --> 00:20:49.519 Um, and so the US government flew a department of justice plane to bring the kid back, um, which is so wild, you know. 00:20:49.759 --> 00:20:50.079 Yeah. 00:20:50.240 --> 00:20:52.720 And and so it it is Who is that good for? 00:20:52.799 --> 00:20:53.680 Is that good for the kid? 00:20:53.759 --> 00:20:54.720 Is that good for the government? 00:20:54.799 --> 00:20:55.680 Is that good for anyone? 00:20:55.839 --> 00:20:57.279 It's like a tremendous waste of money. 00:20:57.440 --> 00:21:00.720 It's terrifying, I'm sure, if you're that family, if you're that kid. 00:21:00.960 --> 00:21:03.680 It's like uh, you know, they're just being used like a pawn. 00:21:04.240 --> 00:21:04.880 Absolutely. 00:21:05.119 --> 00:21:30.799 And it's so the I I think that w the the key piece here, I think the that um the piece that we don't want to overlook when it comes to you know, the trans community and the immigration community, and obviously everything from passports to uh citizenship and all these things are um connected and intertwined as we're starting to see. 00:21:31.519 --> 00:21:43.519 But the other piece to freedom of speech that is also going to be that like I think the third bastion that we're already starting to see become attacked is the right to assemble and protest. 00:21:44.079 --> 00:21:52.240 And you know, when we're upset with these

laws, with these uh discriminatory practices, the thing that we see is that people m can't take to the streets. 00:21:52.319 --> 00:21:59.440 And we saw the reaction from ICE shooting and harming people, killing people in the streets. 00:22:00.240 --> 00:22:10.720 People were protesting, and they're trying very rigorously to sort of re remove the right to protest. 00:22:10.799 --> 00:22:13.599 You know, they're they're attacking the the protesting laws. 00:22:13.680 --> 00:22:41.039 And the easy the best way for them to do that, and the the the sort of most effective way for them to do that to where we got to the point where we are now with ICE was uh the student encampment protests that were happening across the country, uh protesting war and genocide and protesting the um uh investment by their universities and their tuition dollars into buying weapons that would do those things. 00:22:41.680 --> 00:23:00.160 And and so, but we were seeing them suddenly universities were take changing their sort of free speech policies that closely aligned with the constitutional rights that people have to free speech, and those things were also being um tightened and implemented uh by the federal government, as we were seeing. 00:23:00.640 --> 00:23:10.799 And there were laws and policies put in place and and proposals that were um put forth in Congress to limit people's acts ability to protest. 00:23:10.880 --> 00:23:26.160 And the way that they were doing that was if you are going to protest Israel, if you're going to protest on behalf of Palestine, then you must be listed as a terrorist, and if then you're protesting on behalf of terrorism, and so we're just gonna get rid of protesting altogether. 00:23:26.640 --> 00:23:28.400 Even in New York City, you know, they passed a bill. 00:23:28.480 --> 00:23:36.079 The city council passed a bill earlier this year about you cannot protest within a certain distance of religious um institutions. 00:23:36.480 --> 00:23:45.359 And it was pointedly specifically because there were people who were using a synagogue to sell illegal land in the West Bank. 00:23:45.680 --> 00:23:56.480 And the protests were not aimed at the synagogue, they were aimed at the illegal sale of Palestinian lands, and yet they created a bill to ban protesting houses of worship, right? 00:23:56.559 --> 00:24:10.880 So it's not that the synagogue was being protested, but now the bill makes it impossible to protest at churches, at synagogues, which I mean, you look at the history of queer protests and how much of it has happened at institutions like the Catholic Church, right? 00:24:11.039 --> 00:24:13.920 All of that would now be illegal, everything that Act Up did in their church. 00:24:14.079 --> 00:24:14.799 So I think you're right. 00:24:14.880 --> 00:24:33.599 We're seeing these bills that are just like chipping away at all of our rights in different places, but it's all under the same umbrella targeting the same people, and yet it is going to

take everyone's rights in the ends, and people who are not paying attention because they don't think it has to do with them are going to wake up, as you said at the start of this episode, in Gilead one morning. 00:24:34.000 --> 00:24:34.799 Good grief. 00:24:34.960 --> 00:24:37.680 I know it's all overwhelming, but we want some good news. 00:24:37.839 --> 00:24:39.119 We want some good news there. 00:24:39.279 --> 00:24:40.799 Um is there any good news? 00:24:41.039 --> 00:24:42.480 Any good news at all? 00:24:43.440 --> 00:24:44.640 You can you let me know. 00:24:44.799 --> 00:24:46.640 I'm asking, I'm asking you. 00:24:47.039 --> 00:24:47.279 Okay. 00:24:47.519 --> 00:24:57.440 One good thing I did hear about is that the Times most hundred influential people of 2026 contained three incredibly important queer advocates. 00:24:57.680 --> 00:25:05.920 These are Shannon Minter, who is now the director of the National Center for LGBTQ rights, incredible political thinker, strategist, writer. 00:25:06.079 --> 00:25:19.440 Shannon is someone who I have uh known peripherally for a very long time, and it is so exciting to see his work, which for I think so often was like really important inside the queer community, but did not get recognized by you know Time magazine. 00:25:19.599 --> 00:25:22.000 So fantastic to see him recognized. 00:25:22.240 --> 00:25:37.119 Hillary Knight, the captain of the Olympic Gold Medal US women's hockey team, also, you know, they deserve it for that, for the being the gold medal winners, but also how they handled that bullshit from Trump with the men's hockey team, and that bullshit from the men's hockey team with Trump. 00:25:37.279 --> 00:25:42.319 For that alone, I think Hillary Knight and the entire team deserves to be on Time's influential list. 00:25:42.640 --> 00:25:52.400 And of course, someone I think you know pretty well, Alan Cumming being recognized for his long career and decades of outspoken LGBTQ advocacy. 00:25:52.640 --> 00:25:53.759 Fantastic to see. 00:25:53.920 --> 00:26:02.559 I think it's great to see both people who we already know as actors, as famous people, people we don't know, like Shannon or Hillary, who's sort of like getting to be known now. 00:26:02.720 --> 00:26:16.559 It's great to see a place like Time magazine recognize these folks, recognize queer greatness and queer brilliance in this moment, particularly those of folks who are defending like trans rights like Shannon Minter. 00:26:16.720 --> 00:26:19.839 So that is my one little bit of good news for us this week. 00:26:20.160 --> 00:26:20.640 Love it. 00:26:20.720 --> 00:26:21.359 I love to hear it. 00:26:21.440 --> 00:26:24.160 And listen, we uh appreciate all of our listeners as well. 00:26:24.319 --> 00:26:43.359 Uh go show those uh time out 100 or some time out, those time 100 out people um some love on their socials and even over on the time uh page so that they so that time can see um how much and how important these issues are to their readers and supporters. 00:26:43.519 --> 00:26:53.680 Um we speaking of supporters, we love all of you, our listeners, our viewers, um, and we we just really appreciate you uh yeah, drop us a comment. 00:26:53.839 --> 00:26:56.400 Let us know what's up with you, what's your good news of the week? 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