Pełna transkrypcja odcinka Loaded with Predators

39 00:03:07.530 --> 00:03:09.840 Not that far. Like, it's... 87 90 2004 2007 2010 40 00:03:09.840 --> 00:03:11.810 2018 2022 like it just kept like there's not a 41 00:03:11.830 --> 00:03:13.750 huge period there no no 2018 is maybe the biggest 42 00:03:13.770 --> 00:03:15.449 dry spell well i mean 2000 and i mean 90 43 00:03:15.449 --> 00:03:17.449 to 2004 is 14 years is a long time to 44 00:03:17.469 --> 00:03:33.419 go without predator Not in my head. 45 00:03:33.439 --> 00:03:35.490 Because look, it's a 90. 46 00:03:35.479 --> 00:03:37.939 That's the decade right before the zeros, and then it's 47 00:03:38.000 --> 00:03:42.280 a 04. So that's right next to each other. Just 48 00:03:42.319 --> 00:03:45.240 like the other day was 2000, right? That was just 49 00:03:45.280 --> 00:03:46.340 the other day in my head. 50 00:03:46.370 --> 00:03:47.650 Yeah, that's right. I remember. 51 00:03:47.659 --> 00:03:48.909 The millennium. I remember it. 52 00:03:48.939 --> 00:03:49.389 I remember it. 53 00:03:49.430 --> 00:03:51.110 I remember it just happened. Why today, dude? 54 00:03:51.129 --> 00:03:52.030 We've got to watch out for that. 55 00:03:52.050 --> 00:03:53.969 Just a minute ago. Just a minute ago. I still 56 00:03:53.990 --> 00:03:55.009 need to update my plot. 57 00:03:55.050 --> 00:03:56.830 Not 25 years later. You're wrong. 58 00:03:56.870 --> 00:03:58.150 Yeah. 59 00:03:58.169 --> 00:04:00.169 Time-space continuum. You're wrong. 60 00:04:01.159 --> 00:04:04.159 Yeah, yeah, no, I would say, no, no, Brian, Brian, 61 00:04:04.300 --> 00:04:08.099 I would say that this thing, in my opinion, there 62 00:04:08.199 --> 00:04:11.479 are a lot more Predator movies than you think there are, 63 00:04:11.539 --> 00:04:15.319 because for me, it is still the year 2000, and 64 00:04:15.599 --> 00:04:17.139 I'm going like, when are they going to make another 65 00:04:17.189 --> 00:04:19.110 Predator movie? 66 00:04:19.250 --> 00:04:21.410 Me, it's like, it's still 87, like, I'm still walking 67 00:04:21.470 --> 00:04:22.370 out of here. 68 00:04:22.129 --> 00:04:25.430 Going, oh, Dutch, you got him, good going, buddy, like... 69 00:04:25.850 --> 00:04:28.529 It's still kind of, you know, original run for me. 70 00:04:28.589 --> 00:04:30.230 It was like, oh, yeah, then they followed it up 71 00:04:30.250 --> 00:04:31.410 with two. I remember that. 72 00:04:31.649 --> 00:04:32.449 Yeah. 73 00:04:33.269 --> 00:04:36.600 And then Dan came along. There's nothing in between there, right? 74 00:04:36.980 --> 00:04:40.120 Because I feel like those middle two, you'd be lucky 75 00:04:40.160 --> 00:04:42.420 if you could find people that remember that those exist. 76 00:04:42.500 --> 00:04:46.139 Unless they're super movie geeks or just Predator super fans. 77 00:04:46.259 --> 00:04:46.839 Right, right. 78 00:04:46.920 --> 00:04:48.839 Those are totally forgotten. 79 00:04:48.480 --> 00:04:49.220 At this point. 80 00:04:49.379 --> 00:04:53.259 Predators and The Predator. That's the ones you're talking about, right? Yes. 81 00:04:53.310 --> 00:04:57.870 Those are the middle two sandwiched in post-crossover movies but 82 00:04:57.889 --> 00:04:59.310 pre-ban movies. 83 00:04:59.470 --> 00:05:00.410 Right, right, right. 84 00:05:00.490 --> 00:05:00.649 So. 85 00:05:01.370 --> 00:05:04.329 yeah let me tell you let me okay let me 86 00:05:04.389 --> 00:05:07.689 tell you because i binged as many as i could 87 00:05:08.149 --> 00:05:13.610 before uh in the week leading up to seeding badlands. 88 00:05:13.050 --> 00:05:15.250 You know that's what i thought would would be our 89 00:05:15.730 --> 00:05:18.629 other movies we've been watching lately because i also watched 90 00:05:18.730 --> 00:05:24.180 a couple of yeah yeah yeah so we're loaded with predators. 91 00:05:24.560 --> 00:05:27.980 I am i am so overflowing with predator and so 92 00:05:28.160 --> 00:05:31.850 it's like uh You know, the only one I missed, 93 00:05:32.550 --> 00:05:36.449 I think I got them all except for the Shane Black, 94 00:05:36.529 --> 00:05:39.449 the Predators one, unless there's something after that. And I 95 00:05:39.509 --> 00:05:41.850 haven't seen the cartoon that's on Hulu. 96 00:05:41.930 --> 00:05:43.949 The killer of killers is good. 97 00:05:44.329 --> 00:05:47.470 Okay. So, so I'm, I think they've gotten some good, 98 00:05:48.129 --> 00:05:51.829 they've gotten a good hold handle on it, you know, uh, fine. 99 00:05:51.850 --> 00:05:52.910 Definitely these days. 100 00:05:52.990 --> 00:05:53.829 Yes. Yeah. Yeah. 101 00:05:53.949 --> 00:05:57.810 I mean, I think the Rodriguez one that he produced, 102 00:05:57.910 --> 00:06:00.269 I think that was like, like kind of like him 103 00:06:00.449 --> 00:06:03.319 kind of just being a predator geek but it was 104 00:06:03.420 --> 00:06:06.379 also like uh it just didn't have the i think 105 00:06:06.399 --> 00:06:08.720 that i think it was just like uh they had 106 00:06:08.759 --> 00:06:11.420 to make something to keep the ip going or something 107 00:06:11.459 --> 00:06:12.779 but it just i don't. 108 00:06:12.660 --> 00:06:14.819 Know if that was legally true but it kind of 109 00:06:14.850 --> 00:06:15.379 feels like. 110 00:06:15.310 --> 00:06:16.709 It feels like that it kind of feels like the 111 00:06:16.829 --> 00:06:19.930 fantastic four situation where they're just trying to keep the. 112 00:06:20.439 --> 00:06:21.699 Gotta keep it in our name. 113 00:06:21.720 --> 00:06:26.180 It's the Sony reboot of Spider-Man. We gotta put something out, man. 114 00:06:26.199 --> 00:06:29.540 We're gonna lose the rights. Gotta get something going. 115 00:06:30.930 --> 00:06:33.790 I did go through that one, but I tell ya, 116 00:06:33.810 --> 00:06:38.410 it was a lot. It is a. 117 00:06:40.589 --> 00:06:41.670 I don't even know where to go. 118 00:06:42.089 --> 00:06:45.399 I guess before we jump to that one, I think 119 00:06:45.480 --> 00:06:48.689 first we just have to

address the fact that I 120 00:06:48.709 --> 00:06:51.810 don't know that McTiernan gets enough credit for being who 121 00:06:51.870 --> 00:06:57.810 he is because I mean, back to back, almost perfect, 122 00:06:58.370 --> 00:07:03.839 like certainly perfectly structured action movies. Like, I mean, Nomads 123 00:07:03.899 --> 00:07:05.879 is cool. I forgot about that one, but like he 124 00:07:05.939 --> 00:07:09.850 starts in 87 with Predator and like, I don't, know 125 00:07:09.870 --> 00:07:12.350 that like there's so many things about just the way 126 00:07:12.410 --> 00:07:15.500 it's put together as an action movie and then eventually 127 00:07:15.540 --> 00:07:17.879 a sci-fi movie but like you're halfway in before you 128 00:07:17.899 --> 00:07:19.720 knew it was a sci-fi movie if you'd never watched 129 00:07:19.740 --> 00:07:23.639 the trailer so like yeah it is just so well 130 00:07:23.699 --> 00:07:26.879 put together and then to follow that up a year 131 00:07:26.990 --> 00:07:30.930 later with die hard like the the most perfectly structured 132 00:07:30.990 --> 00:07:33.870 action movie ever so much so that it created its 133 00:07:33.930 --> 00:07:37.389 own sub-genre of die hard on a blank movies that 134 00:07:38.439 --> 00:07:41.089 They're still making today. I still just watched the one 135 00:07:41.149 --> 00:07:46.029 with Rey in it. Did you know there is a thing? 136 00:07:46.389 --> 00:07:47.430 Rey from Star Wars. 137 00:07:47.569 --> 00:07:49.500 Okay, where she's a window washer, right? 138 00:07:49.600 --> 00:07:51.759 Yeah, she's basically just doing dialogue. 139 00:07:51.779 --> 00:07:55.480 I was like, okay, because we all know the window 140 00:07:55.519 --> 00:07:58.810 washers we see in life all look like supermodels. 141 00:07:59.990 --> 00:08:02.110 They look like supermodels and they used to be in 142 00:08:02.129 --> 00:08:05.529 the military so they can kick ass. We all know 143 00:08:05.589 --> 00:08:07.790 that's how window washers operate. 144 00:08:07.910 --> 00:08:11.370 She has no heat damage to her skin at all. 145 00:08:11.670 --> 00:08:14.310 No shrapnel on the side of her face. 146 00:08:14.350 --> 00:08:17.449 Just came out of a vat of butter. And like, 147 00:08:17.509 --> 00:08:20.050 as now she's, uh, I was like, yeah, I didn't 148 00:08:20.069 --> 00:08:24.000 get through it. I was like, I'm trying to imagine. 149 00:08:24.040 --> 00:08:27.019 It was fine, but it's just, again, you watch that 150 00:08:27.079 --> 00:08:29.459 and you're like, okay, now they're just not even going 151 00:08:29.500 --> 00:08:31.759 somewhere else to do a diehard knockoff. They're back in 152 00:08:31.819 --> 00:08:36.049 a building. Yeah. And I was like, wait, isn't that 153 00:08:36.070 --> 00:08:41.629 already taken? But yeah, I was just like, but if 154 00:08:41.649 --> 00:08:43.669 you want a good way to see how good Die 155 00:08:43.690 --> 00:08:46.490 Hard is, watch that by comparison. And I'm like, it's 156 00:08:46.690 --> 00:08:49.929 fine if you'd never seen Die Hard. You'd watch it 157 00:08:49.950 --> 00:08:52.389 and be like, yeah, it's an action movie. It's not 158 00:08:52.429 --> 00:08:54.919 even that much action, really. It's mostly her hanging on 159 00:08:54.940 --> 00:08:57.019 the side of a building for two-thirds of the movie. 160 00:08:57.059 --> 00:08:59.539 And then eventually there's some fight scenes. But for the 161 00:08:59.580 --> 00:09:03.539 most part, it's not even a huge action movie. But yeah, 162 00:09:03.559 --> 00:09:10.179 you watch that versus the vast, amazing structure and just 163 00:09:10.200 --> 00:09:13.080 the way that that movie is laid out is perfect. 164 00:09:13.259 --> 00:09:17.580 And so McTiernan kind of, I mean, and then follows 165 00:09:17.639 --> 00:09:19.879 it with Hunt for Red October. So again, they've been 166 00:09:19.899 --> 00:09:22.769 making submarine movies trying to do that for you. That's it. 167 00:09:23.370 --> 00:09:29.490 That's it. Yeah, yeah. McTiernan, let me just say. The 168 00:09:29.850 --> 00:09:33.629 1980s had us all spoiled. I'm going to drop some 169 00:09:33.669 --> 00:09:35.330 hot takes here. 170 00:09:35.470 --> 00:09:40.929 Old man gets ready to hug cloud. I remember back 171 00:09:41.129 --> 00:09:42.490 in the old days. 172 00:09:42.889 --> 00:09:46.830 The 80s had us spoiled. Because in my mind, when 173 00:09:46.929 --> 00:09:50.549 I saw Predator, I thought it was fine. I thought 174 00:09:50.590 --> 00:09:57.580 it was a Schwarzenegger vehicle. and I thought it was fine, okay? 175 00:09:57.679 --> 00:10:01.159 And I was like, I was not... Predator. I didn't 176 00:10:01.200 --> 00:10:04.039 have Predator mania. I thought it was good, but it 177 00:10:04.080 --> 00:10:06.940 was not Terminator. It was like, it was fine. It was, 178 00:10:07.299 --> 00:10:09.539 I thought it was fine, but that just shows you. 179 00:10:10.049 --> 00:10:13.639 The level of genre cinema at the time was, I think, 180 00:10:14.019 --> 00:10:17.659 in my mind, pretty high, where something like Predator was 181 00:10:17.720 --> 00:10:21.200 just a common movie that would come out in 87. 182 00:10:21.190 --> 00:10:21.269 Now. 183 00:10:23.850 --> 00:10:27.429 I haven't rewatched it, but I've seen Predator, you know, 184 00:10:27.750 --> 00:10:29.100 probably 200 times. 185 00:10:29.600 --> 00:10:31.200 On a loop. On a loop. 186 00:10:31.580 --> 00:10:35.179 Absolutely. It's never not been on. 187 00:10:35.240 --> 00:10:37.570 It's why I didn't go back and watch that one. 188 00:10:37.580 --> 00:10:39.779 I was like, you know, I know that one. 189 00:10:39.820 --> 00:10:41.919 I can play it in my brain right now. I 190 00:10:41.940 --> 00:10:43.179 don't have to rewatch that one. 191 00:10:43.340 --> 00:10:47.899 Exactly. It's like I put the Videodrome tape into my chest. 192 00:10:48.120 --> 00:10:48.929 It's there, you know. 193 00:10:49.289 --> 00:10:49.590 And.... 194

00:10:51.750 --> 00:10:54.149 But I had not, I had not, no, I did 195 00:10:54.190 --> 00:10:56.029 go back and watch it because I hadn't seen it. 196 00:10:56.070 --> 00:10:59.370 I hadn't seen it in probably a decade. All right. 197 00:10:59.450 --> 00:10:59.750 You know? 198 00:11:00.389 --> 00:11:03.750 And, uh, what, what I was going like, I was 199 00:11:03.789 --> 00:11:07.389 going like, this is so much better than I remembered 200 00:11:07.429 --> 00:11:07.950 it being. 201 00:11:08.190 --> 00:11:11.269 This is like, so quickly put together. Yeah. 202 00:11:11.470 --> 00:11:15.289 It's like, you have like a real, an app, especially 203 00:11:15.350 --> 00:11:18.740 after seeing the sequels, you have a real sense of 204 00:11:18.860 --> 00:11:26.080 direction and, and it's kind of about something, which the, well, A, 205 00:11:26.340 --> 00:11:32.210 number one, after watching all these movies, the testosterone overdrive 206 00:11:32.710 --> 00:11:35.830 of watching Predator movies back to back, I mean, you 207 00:11:35.870 --> 00:11:39.169 really just want to go wrestle a tree down out 208 00:11:39.190 --> 00:11:40.590 of its roots and then eat it. 209 00:11:40.629 --> 00:11:46.929 I mean, when you've got the arm-to-arm handshake of Schwarzenegger 210 00:11:47.080 --> 00:11:51.419 and Carl Weathers, you've got Apollo Crews. Creed grabbing Arnold 211 00:11:51.440 --> 00:11:53.340 Schwarzenegger's hand. 212 00:11:52.919 --> 00:11:55.759 And you're just like oh my god it's all about 213 00:11:55.840 --> 00:11:59.879 the most testosterone ever and then Jesse the insurer shows 214 00:12:00.059 --> 00:12:04.820 up and Bill Duke and Sonny Landon for God's sake 215 00:12:05.019 --> 00:12:07.139 Billy's the coolest yeah. 216 00:12:06.919 --> 00:12:11.019 Dude it is like the it's like such a movie 217 00:12:11.639 --> 00:12:17.019 about bro code and don't betray the bro code and 218 00:12:17.600 --> 00:12:23.440 just about primal masculine hunting being hunted and just like 219 00:12:23.519 --> 00:12:26.779 it's like it is like a it is like dude 220 00:12:26.860 --> 00:12:29.830 bro the movie and but in a good way but 221 00:12:29.870 --> 00:12:32.289 that's sort of like it's reason to exist you know 222 00:12:32.370 --> 00:12:37.049 is to portray and explore like you know dude code 223 00:12:37.389 --> 00:12:41.240 you know and dudes doing what dudes do best and 224 00:12:41.269 --> 00:12:43.659 you don't you know Carl Weathers kind of betrays the 225 00:12:43.700 --> 00:12:46.059 dude code and like Dylan I thought you were someone 226 00:12:46.100 --> 00:12:48.360 I could trust you know, and everything. And it's just like, 227 00:12:48.379 --> 00:12:52.340 that's like the worst. That's like the worst. They respect 228 00:12:52.399 --> 00:12:58.250 the predator. They don't respect the military industrial complex that 229 00:12:58.470 --> 00:13:00.009 uses them like puppets, you know? 230 00:13:02.090 --> 00:13:04.850 Don't worry. We at least got

a little femininity. We 231 00:13:04.870 --> 00:13:05.629 got Anna there. 232 00:13:05.789 --> 00:13:06.090 Oh, we got Anna. 233 00:13:06.110 --> 00:13:08.690 So, like, this ain't Glenn Gary again, Ross. We still 234 00:13:08.710 --> 00:13:11.850 work in a female character. We're very progressive in our 1987-ness. 235 00:13:11.870 --> 00:13:12.710 Yeah, yeah. 236 00:13:13.029 --> 00:13:16.399 We brought in a female character. Aren't you proud of us? Yeah, right, right. 237 00:13:16.419 --> 00:13:18.840 We brought a female character to be a victim in 238 00:13:18.899 --> 00:13:19.759 our dude bro move. 239 00:13:20.080 --> 00:13:24.600 Well, she's like the spiritual center. She, like, says some 240 00:13:24.940 --> 00:13:29.110 mystical things about, you know... you know the the the 241 00:13:29.169 --> 00:13:32.610 culture that they're they're tromping around in you know um 242 00:13:33.409 --> 00:13:35.669 i thought it was real interesting from a 1980s point 243 00:13:35.690 --> 00:13:38.759 of view you know like us our involvement in like 244 00:13:38.960 --> 00:13:41.899 uh south america and it's just kind of like it's 245 00:13:41.940 --> 00:13:45.580 not really it's very interesting it's kind of like saying 246 00:13:45.759 --> 00:13:48.330 kind of like what alien it's like uh you know, 247 00:13:48.379 --> 00:13:52.269 the company is corrupt, but the, the, the, the man, 248 00:13:52.309 --> 00:13:56.909 the feet, people on the ground are good. And, and awesome. 249 00:13:57.169 --> 00:13:59.679 And yeah, man, he's trying to hold him down. 250 00:13:59.700 --> 00:14:00.100 That's right. 251 00:14:00.139 --> 00:14:02.639 Or he's just, he's just used misusing them, you know, 252 00:14:02.700 --> 00:14:05.250 for his own weird agenda. You know, I mean, I, I, 253 00:14:06.000 --> 00:14:08.230 When I watched it as a kid, I never really 254 00:14:08.330 --> 00:14:09.889 got why they were there. I mean, I knew it 255 00:14:09.909 --> 00:14:12.830 was a rescue mission, but it's real interesting seeing it 256 00:14:12.870 --> 00:14:15.129 now with like the 1987, because there was like the 257 00:14:15.190 --> 00:14:18.129 mention of the Russians are moving into the area. So 258 00:14:18.190 --> 00:14:21.730 it's like, you know, trying to get, you know, I 259 00:14:21.750 --> 00:14:25.789 guess the Russians are basically arming these gorillas to, you. 260 00:14:25.750 --> 00:14:27.970 Know, forget the cold war, the cold war. 261 00:14:28.149 --> 00:14:30.549 So it's like, it's all seeped in cold war. That 262 00:14:30.570 --> 00:14:34.629 just shows you like how, how long these predator movies 263 00:14:34.649 --> 00:14:38.269 have been with us. and and you really what was 264 00:14:38.370 --> 00:14:41.379 interesting about watching all of them was just uh the 265 00:14:41.519 --> 00:14:47.220 the differences in technique as it goes forward and really 266 00:14:47.240 --> 00:14:53.570 uh yeah it what for predator to be basically gi 267 00:14:53.629 --> 00:14:57.269 joe versus the man from mars it is so much 268 00:14:57.509 --> 00:15:01.029 better than it has any right to be and it's 269 00:15:01.250 --> 00:15:04.750 it's almost just like freaking perfect and really and kind 270 00:15:04.769 --> 00:15:10.539 of like aliens uh it's been quoted so much that 271 00:15:10.639 --> 00:15:15.200 really i had a friend that loved predator so much 272 00:15:15.759 --> 00:15:20.620 and he probably would quote predator six times a day 273 00:15:20.759 --> 00:15:22.950 just in regular conversation. 274 00:15:23.370 --> 00:15:25.509 How many times did you need to get to the chopper? 275 00:15:25.590 --> 00:15:27.389 Yeah, I mean, that was so many times. 276 00:15:27.509 --> 00:15:29.730 You're like, dude, I'm in the break room. We don't 277 00:15:29.809 --> 00:15:32.450 even have a chopper. Shut up. 278 00:15:33.110 --> 00:15:35.080 Well, he just knew that movie so much. It was 279 00:15:35.120 --> 00:15:38.799 just like, oh man, it's just so great. And so 280 00:15:38.840 --> 00:15:40.519 when I was watching this, I just couldn't help but 281 00:15:40.559 --> 00:15:45.259 to think of this guy, you know, and how much 282 00:15:45.399 --> 00:15:50.019 that movie was, you know, indoctrinated into him. And, you know, 283 00:15:50.059 --> 00:15:53.279 kind of like, you know, with like Bill Paxton's character 284 00:15:53.299 --> 00:15:55.539 in aliens and all this stuff in aliens, which is, 285 00:15:55.600 --> 00:15:59.299 you know, just total, total quote machine. And so it's 286 00:15:59.360 --> 00:16:04.610 so great. It's the movie is like, uh, phenomenal. And 287 00:16:04.679 --> 00:16:08.649 it always has pace and direction. And you're always trying 288 00:16:08.690 --> 00:16:12.090 to get somewhere in it. And, uh, what I have, 289 00:16:12.409 --> 00:16:17.769 what I found from the sequels was it felt like, 290 00:16:17.809 --> 00:16:19.590 cause we were about to, we were just started going 291 00:16:19.649 --> 00:16:25.289 on star Wars tangent before, uh, we started recording, the 292 00:16:25.370 --> 00:16:30.590 Predator movies start feeling like Star Wars product, where it's 293 00:16:31.240 --> 00:16:37.919 imagery of Predators, but there's no direction or reason for 294 00:16:38.539 --> 00:16:39.580 any of it to exist. 295 00:16:39.600 --> 00:16:43.799 Yeah. We've got to keep the IP alive. 296 00:16:43.879 --> 00:16:44.259 God. 297 00:16:44.340 --> 00:16:49.139 That's all it is. It's just like a radio-friendly unit shifter. 298 00:16:49.700 --> 00:16:51.620 I mean, I feel like for a while there, it 299 00:16:51.840 --> 00:16:58.870 definitely was. Again, in the newly crowned king of predators, 300 00:16:58.970 --> 00:17:00.429 I don't think that that's true. 301 00:17:00.490 --> 00:17:01.070 No, no, no. 302 00:17:01.110 --> 00:17:04.049 Definitely. Well, I mean, you go to the next one, 303 00:17:04.069 --> 00:17:05.470 and I feel like they were actually. 304 00:17:05.710 --> 00:17:06.940 I don't

feel like that was. 305 00:17:07.539 --> 00:17:10.640 trying to do that but it was definitely like in 306 00:17:10.680 --> 00:17:12.799 the era of and we got to do a sequel 307 00:17:12.880 --> 00:17:14.799 so like it was just we got to keep this 308 00:17:14.839 --> 00:17:17.279 thing going but it wasn't the we got to save 309 00:17:17.299 --> 00:17:20.240 the IP we got to build a universe that came 310 00:17:20.480 --> 00:17:23.259 later with a lot of movies right it was more 311 00:17:23.279 --> 00:17:25.720 of just like yes the sequels that's what we do 312 00:17:25.819 --> 00:17:27.900 like that that's how the world works like we're making 313 00:17:27.920 --> 00:17:30.599 an action movie then we're making another action movie so 314 00:17:31.119 --> 00:17:33.140 right it just felt like it was trying to like 315 00:17:33.220 --> 00:17:37.789 tap into that thing the first time and it doesn't exactly. 316 00:17:37.809 --> 00:17:41.470 I re-watched that one maybe about two years ago, I remember, 317 00:17:41.490 --> 00:17:43.849 because I hadn't seen it maybe since the theater, and 318 00:17:43.930 --> 00:17:46.069 I was like, all right, let's revisit this. 319 00:17:46.130 --> 00:17:47.890 I remember thinking it was all right. 320 00:17:47.930 --> 00:17:51.900 It's no Predator, but it was pretty good as it went, 321 00:17:52.019 --> 00:17:54.220 and it's fine. 322 00:17:54.680 --> 00:17:57.720 It's fine. It's fine. It's fine. I had much higher 323 00:17:57.799 --> 00:18:00.990 esteem for it back in the day, actually. When I 324 00:18:01.049 --> 00:18:04.500 first saw Predator 2, I was like, man, this movie's badass, 325 00:18:04.539 --> 00:18:10.230 all right? I kind of like the cartoonish, hyper-frenetic energy 326 00:18:10.309 --> 00:18:10.950 of it, you know? 327 00:18:10.970 --> 00:18:14.289 I like the weird future world where the year of 328 00:18:14.289 --> 00:18:15.029 1997 or whatever it was. Yeah. 329 00:18:18.990 --> 00:18:23.769 There's a shot of Danny Glover walking through some puddles 330 00:18:23.829 --> 00:18:27.339 or something, and his suit is so big on him. 331 00:18:27.730 --> 00:18:31.299 It almost looks like... Oversized suits were kind of a 332 00:18:31.339 --> 00:18:34.960 thing for a minute, and his suit is so. 333 00:18:36.450 --> 00:18:39.549 On him it looks like uh you know dress up 334 00:18:39.710 --> 00:18:42.089 like a kid playing dress you know it well you 335 00:18:42.109 --> 00:18:42.509 know and. 336 00:18:42.470 --> 00:18:46.210 It's also funny handing it like so you're you're mano 337 00:18:46.329 --> 00:18:48.809 on mano with schwarzenegger in the last one and now 338 00:18:48.869 --> 00:18:51.490 it's like danny glover who last year told us he 339 00:18:51.509 --> 00:18:54.130 was too old for this shit so now him by 340 00:18:54.170 --> 00:18:56.660 himself in a giant suit with a good like a 341 00:18:56.720 --> 00:18:59.460 handgun like that's all he has to fight the predator 342 00:18:59.539 --> 00:19:03.960 like So it seemed like a weird baton handoff there. 343 00:19:04.539 --> 00:19:04.839 Absolutely. 344 00:19:04.859 --> 00:19:07.859 He's like, oh, okay, Danny Glover here. He holds his 345 00:19:08.000 --> 00:19:09.680 own as best as Danny Glover can. 346 00:19:09.720 --> 00:19:12.829 I love Danny Glover, but it's just a weird shift. 347 00:19:13.730 --> 00:19:16.390 The problem is he has nothing to play. I mean, 348 00:19:16.410 --> 00:19:18.849 the problem with that movie is nobody has anything to 349 00:19:18.890 --> 00:19:24.559 play other than cop stereotypes. That movie actually feels like the, 350 00:19:25.059 --> 00:19:29.289 it actually feels like last action hero is directly making 351 00:19:29.369 --> 00:19:32.099 fun of predator 2 in some part ways you know 352 00:19:32.430 --> 00:19:34.720 it's like it's kind of making fun of every action 353 00:19:34.740 --> 00:19:38.740 movie that came before it there's there's there's a good 354 00:19:38.779 --> 00:19:41.279 job of it yeah yeah it does it does but 355 00:19:41.359 --> 00:19:47.049 i mean predator 2 is kind of like the same 356 00:19:47.089 --> 00:19:50.269 script just done for comedy in Last Action Hero. It's so... 357 00:19:50.630 --> 00:19:56.299 Predator 2 is like... What I like about it is 358 00:19:56.359 --> 00:19:59.880 the energy that comes to it, but it really... it 359 00:19:59.940 --> 00:20:03.640 doesn't have the direction and for momentum. That movie basically 360 00:20:03.789 --> 00:20:08.150 is doing, uh, uh, uh, donuts in the parking lot 361 00:20:08.269 --> 00:20:12.250 until the last 30 minutes. Uh, when, you know, it 362 00:20:12.309 --> 00:20:16.009 becomes just a basically fight against, you know, man on man, uh, 363 00:20:16.589 --> 00:20:20.009 man versus predator, Danny Glover versus predator. I think what 364 00:20:20.049 --> 00:20:21.470 I liked about it when I saw it, it was like, well, 365 00:20:21.509 --> 00:20:24.710 I felt they really gave you your money's worth for 366 00:20:24.769 --> 00:20:30.690 the final fight scene. Um, which spans several different locations, 367 00:20:30.730 --> 00:20:33.390 you know, and I guess starts in the slaughterhouse. But, 368 00:20:33.450 --> 00:20:36.430 you know, seeing it again now, I'm going like, it's 369 00:20:36.569 --> 00:20:40.809 not as impressive as I remember. And I remember, and 370 00:20:40.930 --> 00:20:45.640 the Predator gives up very quickly in this one, in 371 00:20:45.680 --> 00:20:49.099 Predator 2. He's hanging on the side of a building 372 00:20:49.680 --> 00:20:53.619 and Danny Glover is like next to him. And Predator. 373 00:20:55.059 --> 00:20:57.599 We know he can jump up walls and jump across 374 00:20:57.740 --> 00:20:59.839 rooftop to rooftop but him hanging on the side there 375 00:20:59.859 --> 00:21:01.190 he just says ah screw it. 376 00:21:02.869 --> 00:21:06.049 Well I mean if you translate what he roars out 377 00:21:06.109 --> 00:21:08.109 in his language it's I'm

getting too old for this 378 00:21:08.150 --> 00:21:10.569 shit and then he just gives up he's just like 379 00:21:10.609 --> 00:21:12.170 that's it I'm done. 380 00:21:12.710 --> 00:21:15.079 And it was kind of funny the fan service where 381 00:21:15.099 --> 00:21:19.400 Danny Glover goes like you know one ugly and then 382 00:21:19.460 --> 00:21:22.079 Predator grabs him and throws him and goes like motherfucker 383 00:21:22.299 --> 00:21:24.279 I'm going like oh so he saw Predator. 384 00:21:25.460 --> 00:21:27.869 We all saw Predator. Even the Predator. 385 00:21:27.940 --> 00:21:29.069 It was huge. 386 00:21:29.130 --> 00:21:31.130 Even in outer space, they were like, oh, did you 387 00:21:31.150 --> 00:21:34.549 catch that beam from Earth on Predator? That movie's pretty good. 388 00:21:34.569 --> 00:21:37.470 Pretty good. They have HBO. Of course. 389 00:21:38.109 --> 00:21:39.259 HBO Space Plus. 390 00:21:39.650 --> 00:21:42.200 It's a new space streaming feature. 391 00:21:42.880 --> 00:21:44.200 They'll change the name of it next year. 392 00:21:44.240 --> 00:21:44.559 Don't worry. 393 00:21:44.619 --> 00:21:45.019 It's okay. 394 00:21:46.019 --> 00:21:49.200 Yeah, yeah. So that movie's crazy. I mean, it does 395 00:21:49.220 --> 00:21:52.180 have kind of like a last... I mean, national... What? 396 00:21:52.779 --> 00:21:57.369 Natural-born killers, early 90s, hyper-violent. We're trying to turn everything up. 397 00:21:57.670 --> 00:21:59.869 The world's falling apart. You know. 398 00:22:01.559 --> 00:22:04.339 The ones that got Robert Downey Jr., not Robert Downey, 399 00:22:04.559 --> 00:22:05.559 Morton Downey Jr. 400 00:22:05.660 --> 00:22:05.819 In it. 401 00:22:05.819 --> 00:22:08.720 I mean, it's just a big mess of a movie, 402 00:22:08.779 --> 00:22:09.019 you know? 403 00:22:09.059 --> 00:22:12.180 You can also feel them, like, trying, that's maybe one 404 00:22:12.200 --> 00:22:15.160 of those first era of them, like, we're already acknowledging, like, 405 00:22:15.240 --> 00:22:17.670 the great movies that just happened in the 80s. 406 00:22:17.900 --> 00:22:18.119 Right. 407 00:22:18.140 --> 00:22:20.559 So they're already like, oh, we gotta pull from that and, like, 408 00:22:20.759 --> 00:22:23.849 shove people in here. So, like, remember how cool Gary 409 00:22:23.880 --> 00:22:26.289 Busey was in Lethal Weapon? I wanted to put him 410 00:22:26.329 --> 00:22:29.529 in here. Bill Paxton, man, that guy was awesome in Aliens. 411 00:22:29.809 --> 00:22:30.930 So we're going to put him in here. 412 00:22:30.950 --> 00:22:34.650 He's an alien, but it's Predator. They're kind of connected, right? 413 00:22:34.690 --> 00:22:37.009 So let's put Bill Paxton in here, and it's kind 414 00:22:37.029 --> 00:22:39.890 of the same thing, right? You can feel them almost 415 00:22:40.309 --> 00:22:44.250 playing with their action figures, trying to recreate the magic 416 00:22:44.289 --> 00:22:46.329 that happened in these other movies just a couple of 417 00:22:46.349 --> 00:22:49.450 years ago. I don't know that it exactly works. 418 00:22:49.859 --> 00:22:55.079 No, it doesn't exactly work. The movie just... It's really 419 00:22:55.240 --> 00:23:00.480 a weird movie that's... all drive and nowhere to go. And, uh, 420 00:23:00.819 --> 00:23:02.720 and I think the problem with it is that it 421 00:23:02.740 --> 00:23:06.970 gets buried under its own like, uh, tropes and cliches there, there, 422 00:23:07.289 --> 00:23:10.569 as in, there's no, nothing honest about it. There's there, 423 00:23:10.750 --> 00:23:14.279 it's all people play. I love the idea of predator 424 00:23:14.319 --> 00:23:18.559 being in, uh, you know, You know, basically it says 425 00:23:18.619 --> 00:23:23.460 it's from the future, but it's basically 1991, you know, L.A. and, 426 00:23:24.220 --> 00:23:28.440 you know, with the riots and everything falling apart in L.A. 427 00:23:28.799 --> 00:23:31.019 And that's kind of a cool idea of that Predator 428 00:23:31.039 --> 00:23:33.680 would come out and prey on the gang violence, you know. 429 00:23:33.700 --> 00:23:34.400 Yeah. 430 00:23:35.150 --> 00:23:37.710 But it's a cool does it work because it's almost 431 00:23:37.809 --> 00:23:40.990 doing from that perspective it is doing the same thing 432 00:23:41.029 --> 00:23:43.440 like the first one is just yeah an action movie 433 00:23:43.539 --> 00:23:45.599 and we cram an alien in the middle of it 434 00:23:45.779 --> 00:23:48.920 right this is basically just like a procedural cop drama 435 00:23:48.960 --> 00:23:51.259 which we had a ton of at that point right 436 00:23:51.279 --> 00:23:53.549 it's doing that for the first two-thirds of this movie 437 00:23:53.619 --> 00:23:56.769 it just crams an alien in and somehow it isn't 438 00:23:56.869 --> 00:23:59.329 the same like it's weird because it's it is still 439 00:23:59.369 --> 00:24:02.450 trying to be a conventional cop movie for the first 440 00:24:02.490 --> 00:24:04.190 half of it. And they're just going to the crime 441 00:24:04.230 --> 00:24:06.450 scenes and trying to figure out what's going on. And like, 442 00:24:07.210 --> 00:24:10.369 somehow it just doesn't translate the same way the original does. 443 00:24:10.430 --> 00:24:13.670 I don't, I don't even know specifically the alchemy that 444 00:24:13.730 --> 00:24:15.750 came into play in the first one, but it doesn't, 445 00:24:16.289 --> 00:24:17.329 doesn't click. 446 00:24:17.150 --> 00:24:18.609 The same in that second movie. 447 00:24:18.869 --> 00:24:21.519 And that's why, like, as you said, McTiernan used to 448 00:24:21.559 --> 00:24:23.710 give a lot of credit or it was just lightning 449 00:24:23.759 --> 00:24:26.640 in a bottle that, you know, the second one just 450 00:24:26.779 --> 00:24:29.680 doesn't work. The problem is also, yeah, as you said it, 451 00:24:29.759 --> 00:24:33.339 them going from crime scene to crime scene becomes very redundant. 452

00:24:33.700 --> 00:24:38.490 And so it's just like there's no progression of the 453 00:24:38.609 --> 00:24:42.990 story at all until the Predator and Danny Glover fight 454 00:24:43.029 --> 00:24:43.549 at the end. 455 00:24:43.569 --> 00:24:44.750 So it's a big reveal, yeah. 456 00:24:44.859 --> 00:24:49.980 Yeah, yeah. It's just a giant circular kind of plot 457 00:24:50.019 --> 00:24:53.859 of Predator kills somebody. They show up. And Danny Glover, 458 00:24:53.880 --> 00:24:56.880 I like Danny Glover. He's great in Lethal Weapon movies, 459 00:24:56.940 --> 00:24:58.950 and he's done some real acting and everything, but this 460 00:24:59.009 --> 00:25:02.210 is kind of like a Saw performance where I just 461 00:25:02.230 --> 00:25:04.950 feel like the movie kind of like hangs him out 462 00:25:04.990 --> 00:25:09.880 to dry. It doesn't shoot him right. I just wanted 463 00:25:09.890 --> 00:25:12.700 to do a super cut of Danny running away from 464 00:25:12.740 --> 00:25:14.980 the camera. I don't know why I fixated on this. 465 00:25:15.240 --> 00:25:20.259 It was just like he's just always running away from 466 00:25:20.299 --> 00:25:23.910 the camera and uh, trying to start a fight with somebody. 467 00:25:23.930 --> 00:25:25.980 And I was just kind of like, it, it doesn't, 468 00:25:26.740 --> 00:25:29.779 I don't know why that it, I think how you 469 00:25:29.859 --> 00:25:34.859 shoot your, your macho lead as a lot to how 470 00:25:34.940 --> 00:25:37.910 the power, uh, that he brings to a movie and 471 00:25:37.930 --> 00:25:40.630 Denny Glover is just always running away. 472 00:25:40.650 --> 00:25:45.250 And again, from that point, he was already built as a, 473 00:25:45.450 --> 00:25:50.130 I'm just, I'm tired, man. Yeah. I'm getting ready to 474 00:25:50.170 --> 00:25:52.630 retire from this cop job, and I don't need to 475 00:25:52.670 --> 00:25:55.710 be fighting a damn alien. 476 00:25:55.730 --> 00:25:58.539 I don't feel like I hear that from Dutch. Dutch 477 00:25:58.579 --> 00:25:59.559 is like, I'm gonna kick some. 478 00:25:59.539 --> 00:26:00.220 Of his ass. 479 00:26:00.299 --> 00:26:00.700 Yeah, yeah. 480 00:26:00.920 --> 00:26:04.380 Dutch is like this natural leader in the movie. He's like, 481 00:26:04.420 --> 00:26:04.799 he plays. 482 00:26:04.819 --> 00:26:08.049 He's equally as old and should be retired, but you 483 00:26:08.089 --> 00:26:10.329 don't get that from him. Yeah, yeah. I mean. 484 00:26:11.410 --> 00:26:13.869 Danny Glover's character could have been so cool, you know? 485 00:26:14.710 --> 00:26:16.430 But he does kind of play him as kind of 486 00:26:16.470 --> 00:26:19.220 tired and kind of beat down by the machine. And 487 00:26:19.259 --> 00:26:21.259 then this predator comes along. He's got to show up, 488 00:26:21.640 --> 00:26:24.640 you know? Yeah. I mean, I don't know what it is. 489 00:26:24.859 --> 00:26:27.460 And it could have been like a, you know, like 490 00:26:27.500 --> 00:26:33.200 a dirty, hairy kind of versus predator, which would have 491 00:26:33.220 --> 00:26:35.490 been a cool thing, you know, but I don't know. 492 00:26:35.930 --> 00:26:40.640 The movie just doesn't do him any favors. And, Can 493 00:26:40.660 --> 00:26:43.920 we just say that one of the great things about 494 00:26:43.940 --> 00:26:48.910 these new Predator movies is they ditched the jungle room 495 00:26:49.029 --> 00:26:53.769 nightclub interior of the Predator ship that was like. 496 00:26:55.230 --> 00:26:57.109 I'm sorry. I don't know. 497 00:26:57.289 --> 00:27:00.549 They still like to go to those inside the ship 498 00:27:00.630 --> 00:27:03.140 and we got the trophies on the wall. We still 499 00:27:03.160 --> 00:27:05.619 got to get that in usually. That's fine. It may 500 00:27:05.680 --> 00:27:08.759 just not be the cool nightclub scene you're looking for. 501 00:27:08.819 --> 00:27:12.359 Dude, the interior of the Predator ship in Predator 2 502 00:27:12.359 --> 00:27:18.309 is like such a mess, man. It's such a mess. 503 00:27:18.390 --> 00:27:20.569 I can't stand it. You know, I like that they 504 00:27:20.609 --> 00:27:23.789 kind of have hieroglyphics and, you know, that the Predator, 505 00:27:24.269 --> 00:27:27.359 you know, iconography is kind of like a Mayan type, 506 00:27:27.420 --> 00:27:30.420 you know, look to hieroglyphics and stuff. But, oh, I 507 00:27:30.440 --> 00:27:33.349 just hated those backlit walls with the fog and. I mean, 508 00:27:33.410 --> 00:27:36.630 it looked like a nightclub. It was terrible. 509 00:27:37.400 --> 00:27:38.839 I think you just want to hang out there. 510 00:27:38.880 --> 00:27:41.740 Let's be real. You want to hit the club with 511 00:27:41.779 --> 00:27:45.359 the Predators and dance around. I see it. 512 00:27:45.519 --> 00:27:47.990 All that set is missing is a mirror ball. Come on, dude. 513 00:27:48.289 --> 00:27:51.230 It's just missing a mirror ball and a bar in 514 00:27:51.250 --> 00:27:55.029 the corner. That's all it's missing. You place the trophy 515 00:27:55.049 --> 00:27:57.470 case with a bar. You know, I mean, that place 516 00:27:57.529 --> 00:28:03.230 is good to go. Xenomorph serving you drinks. He just 517 00:28:03.289 --> 00:28:04.009 sort of. 518 00:28:03.849 --> 00:28:06.569 Hisses and throws you a vodka and tonic. And you're like, 519 00:28:06.750 --> 00:28:07.890 all right, good enough. 520 00:28:08.390 --> 00:28:08.970 Absolutely. 521 00:28:09.170 --> 00:28:09.670 Absolutely. 522 00:28:09.710 --> 00:28:09.910 Yeah. 523 00:28:09.970 --> 00:28:11.450 And I still don't know what the thing with the 524 00:28:11.509 --> 00:28:13.849 gun at the end. I know it would take me 525 00:28:13.890 --> 00:28:16.109 five seconds to look it up on Google. But, you know. 526 00:28:17.769 --> 00:28:20.910 So as far as we know, I'd never really remember 527 00:28:21.049 --> 00:28:24.319 hearing about a Predator 3 gun. So as you said, 528 00:28:24.359 --> 00:28:27.380

there's a big stretch there. So it's like, why is it? 529 00:28:27.799 --> 00:28:30.160 Two still made decent money, I feel like. I went 530 00:28:30.180 --> 00:28:31.140 and saw it in the theater. 531 00:28:31.200 --> 00:28:33.680 So I feel like it did okay when it came out. 532 00:28:33.779 --> 00:28:35.920 It seems like they were primed to be like, all right, 533 00:28:35.960 --> 00:28:38.839 heading down the rest of this road instead of just 534 00:28:38.859 --> 00:28:41.559 sort of coming to a screeching halt for a while there. 535 00:28:42.119 --> 00:28:44.079 Right, right. No, a screeching halt. And I guess it 536 00:28:44.099 --> 00:28:48.200 got kept alive on comic books and expanded universe. 537 00:28:48.329 --> 00:28:51.029 I feel like the reason it didn't feel like as 538 00:28:51.089 --> 00:28:55.200 long a stretch is... Because the alien part of the 539 00:28:55.319 --> 00:28:59.900 alien franchise kept going on for two more movies, and 540 00:28:59.980 --> 00:29:02.059 it kind of kept it alive until we get to 541 00:29:02.160 --> 00:29:03.200 the crossover movie. 542 00:29:03.529 --> 00:29:05.849 Again, we still had a few years after that fourth one, but. 543 00:29:06.700 --> 00:29:10.140 Enough that people were still hyped about Alien, and then 544 00:29:10.160 --> 00:29:12.670 they remembered Predator from the other two movies enough to 545 00:29:12.710 --> 00:29:14.750 be like, oh, that's going to be awesome. Yeah. 546 00:29:14.849 --> 00:29:15.849 I don't know if anybody. 547 00:29:15.769 --> 00:29:17.890 Actually said that. Certainly not after they. 548 00:29:17.769 --> 00:29:22.390 Saw the movie. Well, here's a hot take, all right? 549 00:29:22.430 --> 00:29:24.829 So I really enjoy Alien vs. 550 00:29:24.849 --> 00:29:29.339 Predator. I, again, went and saw it in the theater. 551 00:29:29.539 --> 00:29:31.920 I don't know that I've rewatched it since then. 552 00:29:32.140 --> 00:29:34.440 Okay. I rewatched it, and after. 553 00:29:35.869 --> 00:29:40.299 Predator 2, I think it's a better movie. And I 554 00:29:40.359 --> 00:29:44.500 would say that it's ridiculous. It's got Paul Thomas Anderson problems. 555 00:29:45.180 --> 00:29:49.180 But what I like about Paul Thomas Anderson movies is 556 00:29:49.400 --> 00:29:55.400 that he is obviously just this total geeking out fanboy 557 00:29:55.740 --> 00:30:00.890 who just loves movies and And he comes up with some, he, 558 00:30:01.130 --> 00:30:04.960 I think he can stage an action sequence pretty good. And, uh, 559 00:30:05.109 --> 00:30:07.430 it does make you appreciate that it doesn't start. He 560 00:30:07.450 --> 00:30:08.680 had to Bovich at it. 561 00:30:09.130 --> 00:30:12.180 And before he might reinsert her in digitally now, right, right. 562 00:30:12.220 --> 00:30:12.339 Right. 563 00:30:12.380 --> 00:30:13.200 The special edition. 564 00:30:13.519 --> 00:30:18.420 Right. Um, Hey man, if you find a, you find 565 00:30:18.460 --> 00:30:20.579 a person you like working with, you marry them. 566 00:30:20.480 --> 00:30:21.839 And you make a lot of movies together. 567 00:30:21.859 --> 00:30:26.450 That's it. That's it. Um, It's like the Kate Beckinsale director. 568 00:30:26.829 --> 00:30:29.049 Just going to keep. 569 00:30:28.779 --> 00:30:31.880 Making these terrible movies with you in it. You'd think 570 00:30:31.900 --> 00:30:33.720 you'd want to make a better movie for your wife, 571 00:30:33.759 --> 00:30:35.920 but I guess not. As long as we're working together, 572 00:30:35.960 --> 00:30:36.980 good enough. 573 00:30:37.019 --> 00:30:42.160 That's it. It's a vacation. I don't know. I enjoy it. 574 00:30:43.849 --> 00:30:44.680 My main thing is. 575 00:30:45.789 --> 00:30:45.869 I. 576 00:30:47.450 --> 00:30:49.289 Don't know how many hot takes I've got left, but 577 00:30:49.990 --> 00:30:54.410 I think... The Alien vs. Predator design of the Predator 578 00:30:54.549 --> 00:31:03.759 fixed some problems I had with the Predator design. Of that... So, 579 00:31:04.299 --> 00:31:08.000 the Predator from the first two, especially from the first one, 580 00:31:08.500 --> 00:31:12.250 I never liked fishnets and a space helmet. 581 00:31:12.430 --> 00:31:17.140 Alright? I just... what you wear to the club when 582 00:31:17.180 --> 00:31:19.539 you're getting your drink from the Xenomorph. You got your 583 00:31:19.559 --> 00:31:21.039 fishnets on, you're looking hot. 584 00:31:21.640 --> 00:31:22.259 I'm just like. 585 00:31:22.519 --> 00:31:24.849 Music's bumping, you know, come on. 586 00:31:25.170 --> 00:31:28.569 Now, I know it's Stan Winston, but I also know 587 00:31:28.829 --> 00:31:32.670 the original design got scrapped halfway through production and they 588 00:31:32.690 --> 00:31:34.289 had to come up with something real quick. 589 00:31:34.329 --> 00:31:37.049 Hey, Jean-Claude Van Damme looks good in those fishnets. 590 00:31:37.150 --> 00:31:37.809 Don't you worry. 591 00:31:41.880 --> 00:31:44.299 They had to switch out the design. And so they 592 00:31:44.579 --> 00:31:54.099 cobbled it together. And I feel like the combination of underwear, whatchamacallit, fishnets, 593 00:31:54.180 --> 00:31:57.049 and a big clunky space helmet just never worked for me. 594 00:31:59.309 --> 00:32:02.170 And I think it looks better in drawings, but on 595 00:32:02.250 --> 00:32:05.650 screen it didn't. What I liked about the AVP design 596 00:32:05.730 --> 00:32:08.049 was I feel like they bulked them out and made 597 00:32:08.069 --> 00:32:13.799 them look More like a cohesive design where it had Predators. 598 00:32:14.319 --> 00:32:17.680 It was still Predator, but it just looked, I think 599 00:32:17.779 --> 00:32:22.910 maybe the linebacker battle armor for the Predator looked better 600 00:32:23.269 --> 00:32:27.509 than a big shiny Corvette on your head and fishnets. 601 00:32:28.849 --> 00:32:29.890 That's just me, dude. 602 00:32:30.009 --> 00:32:30.769 Each their own. 603 00:32:33.309 -->

00:32:35.710 I'm allowed to be wrong to say that. 604 00:32:35.730 --> 00:32:38.869 I mean, they aren't flying around in spaceships. It does 605 00:32:38.910 --> 00:32:41.960 seem like they'd have like a space suit to some extent, 606 00:32:42.000 --> 00:32:45.240 you know. I don't know if they don't need to 607 00:32:45.279 --> 00:32:48.420 worry about the vacuum of space, but it seems like 608 00:32:48.440 --> 00:32:51.440 you'd still want a cool, sporty spacesuit for, like, you know, 609 00:32:51.569 --> 00:32:54.349 just looking cool as you come out of your spaceship 610 00:32:54.410 --> 00:32:56.990 and go mess with the locals like you do when 611 00:32:57.029 --> 00:32:59.369 you're flying around the universe. Yeah, yeah. 612 00:32:59.690 --> 00:33:02.690 I mean, I guess if you're in the middle of Guatemala, 613 00:33:03.289 --> 00:33:06.150 you'd probably, you know, dress down, dress for the occasion. 614 00:33:07.130 --> 00:33:09.680 He does seem. 615 00:33:09.279 --> 00:33:12.079 To go to a lot of hot locations. He does. 616 00:33:12.140 --> 00:33:16.500 I gotta get this shirt off, man. Freaking 98 with humidity. 617 00:33:16.519 --> 00:33:17.539 I ain't gonna do this. 618 00:33:18.339 --> 00:33:21.660 It's like global warming. But he's still got this giant 619 00:33:21.680 --> 00:33:28.029 space helmet. I don't know. Anyway. There's some things that 620 00:33:28.240 --> 00:33:31.369 I think that movie does pretty darn good. They shoot 621 00:33:31.410 --> 00:33:34.549 the alien. And the alien queen in that movie is 622 00:33:34.670 --> 00:33:39.960 like amazing it's like you know just it's mostly practical 623 00:33:40.019 --> 00:33:43.500 but but you know some the cg doesn't look cg 624 00:33:43.579 --> 00:33:46.640 when it's running and it looks great the aliens move 625 00:33:46.700 --> 00:33:50.680 great um the the fight scenes between the aliens and 626 00:33:50.700 --> 00:33:53.599 the predators are great now there's all the dumb stuff 627 00:33:53.619 --> 00:33:56.680 with the human characters so it's like a godzilla movie 628 00:33:56.920 --> 00:33:59.220 it's like godzilla versus the smog monster you got to 629 00:33:59.289 --> 00:34:02.549 get through the human characters but at least the human 630 00:34:02.589 --> 00:34:05.990 characters are okay i think they're better than the human 631 00:34:06.029 --> 00:34:09.630 characters in uh predator 2 but uh. 632 00:34:09.750 --> 00:34:12.829 The recent american godzilla movies i keep going why are 633 00:34:12.889 --> 00:34:16.800 these humans here yeah we're here to watch godzilla fight 634 00:34:16.820 --> 00:34:20.000 king kong like quit talking and get to them fighting 635 00:34:20.039 --> 00:34:22.840 and doing stuff and that stuff works so well but 636 00:34:22.940 --> 00:34:24.340 every time they go back to me i'm like i 637 00:34:24.360 --> 00:34:27.699 don't even know what your motivation is like i don't 638 00:34:28.199 --> 00:34:30.090 like and i feel like even the actors are like 639 00:34:30.130 --> 00:34:31.050 wait what are we doing. 640 00:34:30.869 --> 00:34:33.150 In this scene They don't know. 641 00:34:33.210 --> 00:34:35.670 And they have good actors sometimes. And I'm like, why 642 00:34:35.730 --> 00:34:38.340 are you here? I guess this is a paycheck, but 643 00:34:38.400 --> 00:34:40.280 I don't get it, man. No, no, no. 644 00:34:40.300 --> 00:34:44.449 There's always been a Godzilla problem until... The Godzilla problem 645 00:34:44.590 --> 00:34:50.650 was always the two different... terrible human scenes intruding in 646 00:34:50.670 --> 00:34:54.659 an awesome Godzilla movie until, until this year zero came along, 647 00:34:54.699 --> 00:34:54.989 you know? 648 00:34:55.510 --> 00:34:55.659 Oh yeah. 649 00:34:55.889 --> 00:34:57.900 I mean, again, that's why I said the American wins. 650 00:34:57.960 --> 00:34:58.639 Like, yeah, yeah. 651 00:34:58.659 --> 00:35:00.820 They're fun. Don't get me wrong. But yeah, when we, 652 00:35:00.900 --> 00:35:03.300 when we had a real Godzilla movie again, it was like, Oh, 653 00:35:03.739 --> 00:35:06.179 Oh no, that's, that's how you do a movie. Like 654 00:35:06.300 --> 00:35:10.199 as actual characters, like Godzilla is like the supporting character. 655 00:35:09.820 --> 00:35:10.440 In this movie. 656 00:35:10.619 --> 00:35:11.159 Yeah. Yeah. 657 00:35:11.440 --> 00:35:14.010 Godzilla zero was like, yeah, it was like, I feel 658 00:35:14.030 --> 00:35:16.989 like they fixed the Godzilla problem where they made, uh, 659 00:35:17.690 --> 00:35:24.920 the human element as important as the Godzilla. Absolutely. Absolutely. 660 00:35:25.320 --> 00:35:28.400 It was like, uh, it was like making it a 661 00:35:28.500 --> 00:35:31.820 personal story about, you know, I mean, it was just 662 00:35:31.840 --> 00:35:35.590 kind of like everybody. has a Godzilla to defeat in 663 00:35:35.619 --> 00:35:39.869 their life. But this poor mofo, his Godzilla is actually Godzilla. 664 00:35:39.889 --> 00:35:43.449 He's got a lot of problems before Godzilla shows up. 665 00:35:44.190 --> 00:35:46.710 That guy's got problems. He's got problems. 666 00:35:46.989 --> 00:35:49.170 He's got problems. Anyway, anyway. 667 00:35:49.190 --> 00:35:52.050 Do we even count Requiem? Because I don't even remember. 668 00:35:52.360 --> 00:35:54.719 I feel like I watched it the first time it 669 00:35:54.760 --> 00:35:57.219 came out and I blocked it out even in the 670 00:35:57.280 --> 00:35:58.420 middle of the movie, maybe. 671 00:35:58.559 --> 00:36:01.280 I don't remember. I just know everyone talks bad about 672 00:36:01.300 --> 00:36:01.619 that movie. 673 00:36:03.500 --> 00:36:08.420 It is the revenge of the Sith of the Predator movies. 674 00:36:08.440 --> 00:36:11.900 So it's the best one. Right, absolutely. It brings it 675 00:36:11.960 --> 00:36:16.980 all together. It is probably the lowest point. I had 676 00:36:17.059 --> 00:36:21.340 not seen it until this week. Because

when I saw 677 00:36:21.389 --> 00:36:23.889 the trailer where it was going to be Alien and 678 00:36:23.929 --> 00:36:27.610 Predator in small town USA, I was going like, absolutely not. 679 00:36:29.530 --> 00:36:31.630 They barely made it work in LA. 680 00:36:31.909 --> 00:36:33.489 This is not going to happen. 681 00:36:33.909 --> 00:36:41.090 Absolutely. This is the sci-fi channel version of this franchise. 682 00:36:41.590 --> 00:36:44.050 I did not go see it. Then I watched it 683 00:36:44.130 --> 00:36:48.340 on streaming this week and it was just as bad 684 00:36:48.440 --> 00:36:51.679 as the trailer made it look. I would say it 685 00:36:52.699 --> 00:37:00.360 has cool shots of the Predator but So for me, 686 00:37:00.380 --> 00:37:02.380 it was like the Revenge of the Sith thing where 687 00:37:02.400 --> 00:37:05.659 I go like, wow, I'm watching Star Wars stuff happen, 688 00:37:06.179 --> 00:37:10.239 but I don't know where anything is going or what's happening. 689 00:37:10.619 --> 00:37:13.739 It's just things to look at. It's kind of like 690 00:37:13.980 --> 00:37:17.840 looking at somebody's display case of Star Wars figure. 691 00:37:20.360 --> 00:37:24.550 Well, I will return to the Star Wars thing later. 692 00:37:24.659 --> 00:37:28.250 But for now, I'm just saying I've avoided that movie 693 00:37:28.269 --> 00:37:31.130 since I think I tried to watch it. I don't 694 00:37:31.170 --> 00:37:33.690 even remember. Like, I remember nothing about Requiem. I at 695 00:37:33.710 --> 00:37:36.469 least remember watching the first one. But I don't even 696 00:37:36.510 --> 00:37:37.889 remember anything about Requiem. 697 00:37:38.070 --> 00:37:41.289 It's so garbage. It's so garbage. It's like all the bad. 698 00:37:41.329 --> 00:37:45.929 It's like, talk about just them being not distinguished characters. 699 00:37:45.949 --> 00:37:51.550 What Predator has is distinguished characters. And then Predator 2 has, like, 700 00:37:51.650 --> 00:37:57.760 you know, stereotype, you know, characters. Caricatures. And then AVP 701 00:37:57.800 --> 00:38:01.800 has whatever comic book-y stuff P.T. Anderson is doing. You know, 702 00:38:01.860 --> 00:38:04.199 it's not really even about the characters. But then by 703 00:38:04.219 --> 00:38:06.860 the time you get to Requiem, it's not about anything. 704 00:38:07.039 --> 00:38:12.849 And really, it's just the people are all completely indistinguishable 705 00:38:13.110 --> 00:38:15.630 from each other. And nobody has any kind of arc. 706 00:38:15.969 --> 00:38:18.949 They're just there to get attacked by predators and aliens. 707 00:38:19.309 --> 00:38:23.329 And there's no point. This movie has no point to exist. 708 00:38:23.409 --> 00:38:26.510 It's not saying anything. And I'm not trying to sound 709 00:38:26.530 --> 00:38:29.610 like Mr. Arty Farty Filmmaker. Like a movie should be 710 00:38:29.670 --> 00:38:33.769 about something. But Predator is about something. And it gives 711 00:38:34.170 --> 00:38:37.929 the movie a skeleton to hang on. And the sequels 712 00:38:38.050 --> 00:38:45.960 aren't about anything. Until recently. And Requiem is the worst 713 00:38:46.059 --> 00:38:51.369 case example of that. Where it's really... It just feels 714 00:38:51.429 --> 00:38:54.960 like a guy with a camera shooting fan footage of 715 00:38:55.059 --> 00:38:58.940 Aliens and Predators. It feels like a YouTube fan movie. 716 00:38:59.739 --> 00:39:01.510 It's that terrible. 717 00:39:04.230 --> 00:39:07.630 Then we hit the dry spell, as you mentioned. Right. 718 00:39:07.650 --> 00:39:08.250 So.... 719 00:39:09.590 --> 00:39:12.380 The thing is, there was supposed to be, I guess 720 00:39:12.400 --> 00:39:17.239 the closest to a potential three was Robert Rodriguez. 721 00:39:17.300 --> 00:39:19.599 Because he was super into the Predator thing. 722 00:39:21.139 --> 00:39:25.289 So it says that he had originally written a screenplay 723 00:39:25.429 --> 00:39:30.110 as a continuation after 2. And it was basically going 724 00:39:30.139 --> 00:39:34.099 to be almost like a gladiator situation. We were going 725 00:39:34.119 --> 00:39:36.780 to get more of the Predators going to get people, 726 00:39:37.159 --> 00:39:40.440 bringing them back to whatever this planet was, and hanging 727 00:39:40.500 --> 00:39:43.280 out watching people fight each other. And it was supposed 728 00:39:43.300 --> 00:39:46.059 to involve Schwarzenegger because they were going to come get him, 729 00:39:46.139 --> 00:39:48.539 I guess, and bring him there to fight. It's basically 730 00:39:48.559 --> 00:39:51.989 the Ragnarok of... predator movies. So you were going to 731 00:39:52.030 --> 00:39:54.739 see Dutch fighting a predator in the middle of an arena, 732 00:39:54.820 --> 00:39:57.179 according to, you know, what they said he was working on. 733 00:39:57.199 --> 00:39:58.679 Dude, that would have been awesome. 734 00:39:59.159 --> 00:40:02.800 At that point, Schwarzenegger was not really an actor anymore. 735 00:40:02.860 --> 00:40:07.300 He was a politician. So that went on ice and, uh, 736 00:40:07.599 --> 00:40:09.719 sat there for 15 years, more or less. And then 737 00:40:09.780 --> 00:40:11.909 eventually when he got back to it, he sort of 738 00:40:12.510 --> 00:40:14.989 still came on as producer and I think was involved 739 00:40:15.030 --> 00:40:18.010 in the storytelling version of it. But yeah, he handed 740 00:40:18.050 --> 00:40:22.369 it off as a director. So yeah, Then we get Predators. 741 00:40:23.829 --> 00:40:26.449 In an aliens move, we get Predators. 742 00:40:27.030 --> 00:40:29.030 Right. 2010. Right. 743 00:40:29.349 --> 00:40:31.769 Which I have one big problem with. 744 00:40:32.590 --> 00:40:32.929 Do it. 745 00:40:33.010 --> 00:40:33.280 Do it. 746 00:40:33.610 --> 00:40:37.420 From the get-go, from the first time I saw the trailer, 747 00:40:37.539 --> 00:40:44.059 I went, okay, so our big military tough guy, our 748

00:40:44.300 --> 00:40:48.599 Arnold Schwarzenegger carrying a gun in this movie is Adrian Brody? Shit. 749 00:40:49.670 --> 00:40:53.480 that is my main issue and it was initially because 750 00:40:53.539 --> 00:40:57.210 I feel like he is massively miscast but on top 751 00:40:57.250 --> 00:40:59.309 of that I did go back and rewatch this one 752 00:40:59.349 --> 00:41:02.750 this week and I'm like Man, I don't like Adrian Brody. 753 00:41:02.789 --> 00:41:04.989 Like, as time's gone on, now I have so much. 754 00:41:04.949 --> 00:41:09.389 Personal, like, real world stuff. Oh, okay. Well, again, like, 755 00:41:09.409 --> 00:41:11.619 we just gave him another Oscar. I'm not going to 756 00:41:11.639 --> 00:41:15.119 say he can't act. Right. In his fancy Oscar movies, 757 00:41:15.179 --> 00:41:17.110 don't get me wrong, I've heard great things about this 758 00:41:17.139 --> 00:41:19.349 thing we just gave him an Oscar for, but I'm like... 759 00:41:19.730 --> 00:41:21.710 He got up there to make a speech, and he 760 00:41:21.750 --> 00:41:22.969 came off like an asshole. 761 00:41:22.989 --> 00:41:25.389 I'm like, I don't like this guy. 762 00:41:25.670 --> 00:41:28.690 The words he was saying was nice, and they meant something, 763 00:41:28.730 --> 00:41:32.449 and they were about family and horrible things we've done 764 00:41:32.489 --> 00:41:34.909 in our history. I get it that it was about something, 765 00:41:34.949 --> 00:41:37.889 but the way he presented it, the way he spit 766 00:41:37.929 --> 00:41:40.570 his gum out as he walked up on stage... And 767 00:41:40.610 --> 00:41:43.190 then sat there, and as they tried to get him 768 00:41:43.230 --> 00:41:45.650 to shut up, he told them to stop playing the music. 769 00:41:45.670 --> 00:41:46.210 Oh, wow. 770 00:41:46.230 --> 00:41:48.429 This isn't my first rodeo. I've already been up here 771 00:41:48.449 --> 00:41:51.340 and won an Oscar. Oh, yeah. Yeah, you're great. You're 772 00:41:51.400 --> 00:41:54.920 real great. Quit being an asshole. So I just don't 773 00:41:54.960 --> 00:41:57.739 like Adrian Brody is what I've discovered over the years. 774 00:41:58.019 --> 00:41:58.460 I got it. 775 00:41:58.500 --> 00:42:00.300 So going back to watch this, I'm like, now it's 776 00:42:00.360 --> 00:42:03.300 just a one-two punch of, like, I can't take you 777 00:42:03.340 --> 00:42:05.159 at all. I can't take you seriously in the role 778 00:42:05.199 --> 00:42:08.380 because you're massively miscast. And on top of that, I 779 00:42:08.420 --> 00:42:11.860 just don't like you as a person. So way too 780 00:42:11.889 --> 00:42:14.329 much of the screenplay is built around you to just 781 00:42:14.389 --> 00:42:17.849 sort of not pay attention to you. So that's the 782 00:42:17.869 --> 00:42:19.809 biggest hurdle for me. Other than that, I think there's 783 00:42:19.849 --> 00:42:25.449 some interesting things in this movie. It's just Adrian Brody. 784 00:42:25.630 --> 00:42:26.550 This

is the problem. 785 00:42:26.730 --> 00:42:30.010 I can overlook the Topher Grace of it all. That's 786 00:42:30.050 --> 00:42:32.670 the one I can be like, yeah, whatever. That's weird, 787 00:42:32.690 --> 00:42:34.949 but whatever. But that one I can write off. 788 00:42:35.880 --> 00:42:36.920 But, yeah, I can't get over. 789 00:42:36.840 --> 00:42:37.599 The Adrian Brody. 790 00:42:37.860 --> 00:42:40.960 Yeah, I forgot Topher Grace was in this. I did, too. 791 00:42:41.000 --> 00:42:43.800 The credit came up, and I went, oh, yeah. 792 00:42:44.179 --> 00:42:46.030 I forgot. 793 00:42:46.309 --> 00:42:50.329 Well, he was just hanging up from behind the tree. 794 00:42:50.389 --> 00:42:53.789 I didn't remember him showing. And it was like, Topher 795 00:42:53.809 --> 00:42:57.110 Grace is in this? And it wasn't like, oh, yay. 796 00:42:57.610 --> 00:43:00.239 It was like, oh, no. Well, I think that's what 797 00:43:00.280 --> 00:43:02.980 everyone says when they see his name in a movie, credits. 798 00:43:03.760 --> 00:43:07.019 Topher Grace is in this? The thing is, I mean, 799 00:43:07.059 --> 00:43:09.849 he's easy to make fun of, and we certainly have 800 00:43:09.929 --> 00:43:12.349 over the years on this show. We watched a whole 801 00:43:12.389 --> 00:43:13.130 horror movie with. 802 00:43:13.030 --> 00:43:14.949 Him in it, and it was just Chopra Grace jokes 803 00:43:14.969 --> 00:43:15.489 the whole time. 804 00:43:15.630 --> 00:43:17.190 But he's not. 805 00:43:17.050 --> 00:43:19.679 A bad actor. Like, in the right role, he can 806 00:43:19.739 --> 00:43:24.389 do amazing work. Like, him in the... what's the black 807 00:43:24.409 --> 00:43:29.059 clansman he's amazing and you give him a really heavy 808 00:43:29.139 --> 00:43:31.619 role to play and i'm like dude he brought it 809 00:43:31.699 --> 00:43:33.900 like he is good in that movie yeah so i'm 810 00:43:33.920 --> 00:43:36.420 like you give him the right role he can do 811 00:43:37.079 --> 00:43:40.019 really good work with it but you give him this 812 00:43:40.159 --> 00:43:43.059 or trying to be venom like you know it's like 813 00:43:43.179 --> 00:43:45.480 you miscast him in these weird roles and it's just 814 00:43:45.519 --> 00:43:49.480 like what what is topher grace doing here like I 815 00:43:49.519 --> 00:43:50.460 think there's also that. 816 00:43:50.659 --> 00:43:57.440 This is the problem. There's just an overall unlikability to 817 00:43:57.619 --> 00:44:03.019 everybody in that movie. And yeah, Adrian Brody, I've seen 818 00:44:03.079 --> 00:44:05.420 him in movies that I think he's really great in. 819 00:44:05.639 --> 00:44:08.239 I don't know. He's probably an asshole, but I mean, whatever. 820 00:44:08.420 --> 00:44:10.440 I like him in some movies, you know? 821 00:44:10.460 --> 00:44:14.300 He can be good in movies. I won't discredit him 822 00:44:14.340 --> 00:44:16.590 as an actor. I just don't like him personally. 823 00:44:16.630 --> 00:44:20.719

Yeah, there's like... This movie he did called The Jacket. 824 00:44:20.739 --> 00:44:23.889 Oh, yeah. That's one of my go-tos. I remember seeing 825 00:44:23.909 --> 00:44:25.730 that and thinking it was a great movie. 826 00:44:26.010 --> 00:44:26.449 Absolutely. 827 00:44:26.510 --> 00:44:28.250 And he happens to be good in it. 828 00:44:28.489 --> 00:44:36.699 Absolutely. But from Schwarzenegger to Danny Glover... To Adrian Brody. 829 00:44:37.000 --> 00:44:40.420 And he bulked up and whatever for the role. 830 00:44:40.440 --> 00:44:43.400 He tried, but it still doesn't. By the end, he 831 00:44:43.619 --> 00:44:48.469 very definitely takes his shirt off. He's like, look, I 832 00:44:48.510 --> 00:44:51.349 worked out in the gym every day to get this. 833 00:44:51.570 --> 00:44:53.789 I'm going to show it off. And I'm like, yeah, 834 00:44:54.010 --> 00:44:56.530 I mean, you look good, but I'm still not taking 835 00:44:56.550 --> 00:44:59.139 you seriously. He still looks like Adrian Brody went to 836 00:44:59.159 --> 00:45:00.199 the gym. 837 00:45:00.420 --> 00:45:04.539 It's his sad little puppy dog eyes. You just don't 838 00:45:04.599 --> 00:45:09.000 believe that this guy is a cold-hearted mercenary. Not at all. 839 00:45:09.219 --> 00:45:16.329 He plays sensitive, tortured, psychological roles and everything. He's like, oh, 840 00:45:16.750 --> 00:45:24.349 you know, and pathos. And he's not the person that's 841 00:45:24.389 --> 00:45:25.550 described in the story. 842 00:45:26.380 --> 00:45:30.329 No. No. He just doesn't feel right from the second 843 00:45:30.369 --> 00:45:31.010 he shows up. 844 00:45:31.449 --> 00:45:35.510 It's a vibe. And you don't believe him seeing these 845 00:45:35.610 --> 00:45:37.829 lines of like, yeah, that's what I would have done. 846 00:45:38.469 --> 00:45:44.380 It's like those sad puppy dog eyes. They don't lie. 847 00:45:44.400 --> 00:45:49.800 I'm going to go over here to Bush and cry now. Okay, Adrian, 848 00:45:49.820 --> 00:45:51.300 you go over there. We're going to make a plan. 849 00:45:51.380 --> 00:45:53.420 So you go cry or whatever you're going to do. 850 00:45:53.440 --> 00:45:53.739 That's right. 851 00:45:53.760 --> 00:45:56.309 You're going to go to random events. A poem about 852 00:45:56.329 --> 00:45:58.230 the Predator or something like that. You believe that? 853 00:45:58.329 --> 00:45:59.230 I wrote this for you. 854 00:45:59.530 --> 00:46:01.820 Yeah, yeah. 855 00:46:01.880 --> 00:46:05.739 My saving grace, I really like Alice Braga. And I think, again, 856 00:46:05.780 --> 00:46:07.420 I feel like she should have been in more stuff 857 00:46:07.440 --> 00:46:10.539 back in the day. And I think she's the only 858 00:46:10.599 --> 00:46:13.760 person maybe, one or two, but she's the one I'm like, no, 859 00:46:13.880 --> 00:46:17.239 I buy her in this role. She's doing good work. 860 00:46:17.300 --> 00:46:21.019 She's actually believable in this. And the one that has... 861

00:46:21.619 --> 00:46:23.969 sense to her where the rest of the again it's 862 00:46:24.010 --> 00:46:26.170 a whole lot of macho bros so like there's some 863 00:46:26.269 --> 00:46:29.269 stupid things going on and she's there going no idiots 864 00:46:29.289 --> 00:46:31.829 look here's what you need to do like yeah agree 865 00:46:31.869 --> 00:46:33.789 so she's the only one that seems to kind of 866 00:46:33.929 --> 00:46:37.820 hold this little group together both acting wise and within 867 00:46:37.860 --> 00:46:39.039 the story itself. 868 00:46:38.699 --> 00:46:41.760 I agree i think she's good she gives a movie 869 00:46:41.780 --> 00:46:45.360 a little bit of a nuance which has zero nuance 870 00:46:45.860 --> 00:46:49.929 yeah otherwise it's it's just all you know, just a 871 00:46:50.010 --> 00:46:54.400 bunch of indistinguishable from each other badasses. I mean, even 872 00:46:54.420 --> 00:46:57.780 with Topher Grace, he really doesn't have any, it's just 873 00:46:57.860 --> 00:47:01.099 nothing to look at. There's just, there's, it looks like 874 00:47:01.179 --> 00:47:04.679 it was shot, you know, in somebody's backyard, you know. 875 00:47:05.610 --> 00:47:07.489 I know we're supposed to be in the forest planet, 876 00:47:07.929 --> 00:47:10.030 you know, or something, especially when you compare it to 877 00:47:10.070 --> 00:47:13.869 what they can do nowadays with Badlands. You know, this 878 00:47:15.269 --> 00:47:18.719 game preserve planet, it looks like, For a lot of 879 00:47:18.760 --> 00:47:20.360 the shots, it looks like, you know, I think it 880 00:47:20.400 --> 00:47:23.360 was shot in Texas and the woods are real sparse. 881 00:47:23.960 --> 00:47:26.940 And it looks like, yeah, they went into Rodriguez's backyard, 882 00:47:26.960 --> 00:47:31.340 you know, and like, you know, played guns. And, you know, 883 00:47:31.389 --> 00:47:34.610 it kind of suffers a little bit from Robert Rodriguez's 884 00:47:34.670 --> 00:47:35.570 backyard syndrome. 885 00:47:35.590 --> 00:47:35.670 Yeah. 886 00:47:39.300 --> 00:47:40.019 Like Rodriguez. 887 00:47:40.079 --> 00:47:43.110 I think he does put together some really fun stuff. 888 00:47:43.130 --> 00:47:49.190 Usually he's way more concerned with putting together this really cool, 889 00:47:49.289 --> 00:47:53.750 fun idea than something heavy and worried about the details 890 00:47:53.809 --> 00:47:56.380 of it. Watch your Spy Kids movies. 891 00:47:56.659 --> 00:47:58.340 He's just worried about that kind of stuff. 892 00:47:58.860 --> 00:48:00.500 He's just like, yeah, this was a cool idea and 893 00:48:00.539 --> 00:48:01.219 I made it happen. 894 00:48:01.320 --> 00:48:04.039 I'm down with him. I'm down with him. I'm not 895 00:48:04.139 --> 00:48:08.230 throwing shade on him. The You know, there was just 896 00:48:08.269 --> 00:48:13.380 something sort of, you know, I guess it just, it just, 897 00:48:13.840 --> 00:48:16.079 there was a kind of a low budget aspect

to 898 00:48:16.099 --> 00:48:20.659 the movie. I mean, better than Predator Requiem, but still. 899 00:48:21.539 --> 00:48:22.579 But I feel like there's an. 900 00:48:24.269 --> 00:48:26.710 Center of this that could have been good like I 901 00:48:26.750 --> 00:48:29.599 do like the idea again instead of us seeing them 902 00:48:29.860 --> 00:48:33.360 get kidnapped and taken off to a gladiator match like 903 00:48:33.940 --> 00:48:36.320 it is interesting like we've just heard that this is 904 00:48:36.380 --> 00:48:38.860 you know the what the predators do they hunt people 905 00:48:38.940 --> 00:48:42.059 so right to like get this other version of like 906 00:48:42.119 --> 00:48:44.760 okay how do they get these people and what happens 907 00:48:45.159 --> 00:48:47.719 do they know what's going on no I They wake 908 00:48:47.840 --> 00:48:49.199 up being airdropped in. 909 00:48:49.239 --> 00:48:51.030 I love it. 910 00:48:51.809 --> 00:48:54.730 That's a cool concept. And then the fact that they 911 00:48:54.769 --> 00:48:56.789 get there and they don't know what's going on, they 912 00:48:56.969 --> 00:48:59.150 are around these other people, they don't know who to trust. 913 00:48:59.170 --> 00:49:02.699 So it's like that basic idea is really cool. It 914 00:49:02.780 --> 00:49:06.780 just never really goes any further than that. The whole 915 00:49:06.820 --> 00:49:08.760 time it's just like, yeah, this is a cool idea, 916 00:49:08.900 --> 00:49:10.840 but we're like 90 minutes in. 917 00:49:10.860 --> 00:49:11.679 So what are we doing here? 918 00:49:12.360 --> 00:49:15.710 That's it. I think the problem is the characters are 919 00:49:15.909 --> 00:49:19.949 not interesting. So you're kind of just watching the mechanics. 920 00:49:20.449 --> 00:49:23.960 of the story function, trying to get to the end, 921 00:49:24.000 --> 00:49:26.219 but it all feels kind of a slog to get 922 00:49:26.260 --> 00:49:29.519 through it because you're not connected to anybody because the 923 00:49:29.539 --> 00:49:32.300 movie's not about anything. 924 00:49:32.420 --> 00:49:35.500 It was interesting. This is sort of the first time... Well, 925 00:49:35.519 --> 00:49:38.739 I mean, definitely the first when we get nothing but... 926 00:49:39.690 --> 00:49:41.989 dudes with giant guns in the jungle and that's how 927 00:49:42.010 --> 00:49:44.519 we start with this but it's interesting mixing in other 928 00:49:44.579 --> 00:49:47.420 types of people yeah you know we got a serial 929 00:49:47.440 --> 00:49:51.019 killer a serial killer a gang banging Danny Trejo type 930 00:49:51.059 --> 00:49:53.699 yeah yeah who that is how they build him in 931 00:49:53.739 --> 00:49:55.920 the script yeah when it was written it was a 932 00:49:55.940 --> 00:49:58.739 Danny Trejo type which made its way to Danny and 933 00:49:58.760 --> 00:50:03.170 he went uh Robert hey yeah I'm a Danny Trejo 934 00:50:03.349 --> 00:50:05.230 type and that's how you got Danny Trejo in the 935 00:50:05.250 --> 00:50:11.230 movie But even the Yakuza guy, that's a badass killer. 936 00:50:11.250 --> 00:50:14.690 I like the idea of adding that element in. It's 937 00:50:14.730 --> 00:50:19.309 just never really... Again, it just doesn't work up to 938 00:50:19.389 --> 00:50:20.050 its potential. 939 00:50:20.510 --> 00:50:28.269 Yeah, absolutely. There's a scene where a Yakuza guy has 940 00:50:28.389 --> 00:50:31.369 the samurai sword and he's fighting the predator and you're 941 00:50:31.389 --> 00:50:32.250 going like, this should. 942 00:50:34.329 --> 00:50:36.630 This is a really cool idea right now. 943 00:50:36.750 --> 00:50:38.909 That is one of the few times I'm like, okay, 944 00:50:38.969 --> 00:50:42.829 here's somebody that again, doesn't seem like your big Arnold 945 00:50:42.849 --> 00:50:45.400 Schwarzenegger type, but I'm like, this guy seems like he's 946 00:50:45.440 --> 00:50:47.260 a bad-ass enough to be able to hold his own. 947 00:50:47.280 --> 00:50:49.039 And with the predator in the fight, you know, it's 948 00:50:49.079 --> 00:50:51.139 like you put the weapons down, you just have a 949 00:50:51.179 --> 00:50:51.699 sword fight. 950 00:50:51.739 --> 00:50:52.400 It's pretty cool. 951 00:50:52.460 --> 00:50:53.880 Like, you know? Yeah. 952 00:50:54.360 --> 00:50:56.590 So, so there's, there's the line and the thing was like, 953 00:50:56.619 --> 00:50:58.789 we are the monsters of our world. And so they 954 00:50:58.809 --> 00:51:01.929 brought us here, you know, and I, So I kind 955 00:51:01.949 --> 00:51:06.769 of like that idea, but because there's, besides the female, 956 00:51:06.809 --> 00:51:10.409 there really is no, they're not, they're not. 957 00:51:10.429 --> 00:51:14.570 Young Mahershala Ali's got a moment or two. He's pretty 958 00:51:14.610 --> 00:51:17.239 good at, you know, trying to bring a little something 959 00:51:17.280 --> 00:51:18.159 to this role. Sure. 960 00:51:18.719 --> 00:51:20.280 Even though, again, he's like from the. 961 00:51:20.239 --> 00:51:22.300 Death squad or something. So the fact that we're starting 962 00:51:22.320 --> 00:51:24.900 to like, oh, I really like this guy. Oh, no way. No, 963 00:51:24.940 --> 00:51:26.579 these people are all terrible. Right. 964 00:51:28.650 --> 00:51:30.719 Alton Goggins, he's the one I forgot was in it. 965 00:51:30.889 --> 00:51:35.500 Me too! He was doing his most over-the-top Alton Goggins stuff, 966 00:51:35.940 --> 00:51:39.199 but again, by the end, you're just like, the things 967 00:51:39.239 --> 00:51:42.340 he keeps saying, you're like, but no, you're horrible. You 968 00:51:42.400 --> 00:51:43.460 need to. 969 00:51:43.260 --> 00:51:44.920 Die, dude. 970 00:51:45.119 --> 00:51:47.300 It's hard to attach yourself to these characters. 971 00:51:47.380 --> 00:51:50.679 That's it. That's the problem. It's hard to attach, and so, 972 00:51:50.920 --> 00:51:54.380 you know, in Predator, you really, even though of all their,

973 00:51:54.800 --> 00:51:55.119 you know. 974 00:51:56.630 --> 00:51:59.110 Machismo and you know and all that you kind of 975 00:51:59.150 --> 00:52:02.449 you like yeah they're bad jokes dude bro behavior dude 976 00:52:02.489 --> 00:52:05.309 bro behavior you really like them you don't mind hanging 977 00:52:05.349 --> 00:52:07.710 around them for 90 minutes and you kind of feel 978 00:52:07.730 --> 00:52:12.929 bad when they get uh killed you know uh but 979 00:52:13.489 --> 00:52:15.969 but these guys this is like a group of people 980 00:52:15.989 --> 00:52:18.340 you just don't want to hang around for 90 minutes 981 00:52:18.389 --> 00:52:20.599 with you know i mean and so it becomes becomes 982 00:52:20.659 --> 00:52:23.050 like a jason movie where you just kind of waiting 983 00:52:23.070 --> 00:52:24.489 for him to die. You're kind of waiting for the 984 00:52:24.530 --> 00:52:26.610 movie to just sort of perfunctory. 985 00:52:26.750 --> 00:52:28.409 And it takes a long time, really. 986 00:52:28.710 --> 00:52:30.780 Other than we off Danny pretty quick, but the rest 987 00:52:30.860 --> 00:52:33.440 of them hang around for a long time. And it's like, yeah, 988 00:52:33.840 --> 00:52:36.280 it seems like you should be often at least one 989 00:52:36.320 --> 00:52:38.980 by one. If we're doing this Jason style, you should 990 00:52:39.000 --> 00:52:41.699 be taking them out a little faster, but it'll be 991 00:52:41.739 --> 00:52:44.969 into the movie before we start taking them out. Yeah, yeah. 992 00:52:45.269 --> 00:52:47.659 A lot of movie people, it seems like everybody that's 993 00:52:47.699 --> 00:52:49.599 in this movie, you forget that it's in the movie. 994 00:52:49.679 --> 00:52:51.550 Larry Fishburne shows up and I go like, oh, I 995 00:52:51.570 --> 00:52:52.349 forgot he was in this. 996 00:52:53.920 --> 00:52:56.760 Again, that's one of those, if ever, cash and a paycheck, 997 00:52:56.780 --> 00:52:59.860 because they're like, he's got less than 15 minutes screen time, 998 00:52:59.940 --> 00:53:02.179 and yet they put him, like, on the poster, in 999 00:53:02.199 --> 00:53:07.250 the trailer, like, they were billing, look, we got Larry Fishburne, yay! Like, yeah. 1000 00:53:07.269 --> 00:53:10.550 So it's just another one of those crazy person Larry 1001 00:53:10.650 --> 00:53:13.190 Fishburne roles that I feel like he was doing a 1002 00:53:13.230 --> 00:53:15.530 lot at this point. There was a few that he 1003 00:53:15.590 --> 00:53:18.659 falls into this, oh, look, look who showed up halfway 1004 00:53:18.679 --> 00:53:21.500 into this movie. Larry Fishburne, yay! Like. 1005 00:53:22.119 --> 00:53:24.659 He pulls up in his car, he gets out, throws 1006 00:53:24.719 --> 00:53:27.519 on a trench coat, says like, ah! Then he takes 1007 00:53:27.559 --> 00:53:30.820 off the trench coat and gets out of there. Check, please. 1008 00:53:32.320 --> 00:53:32.909 Yeah, yeah. 1009 00:53:33.360 --> 00:53:36.769 And Predators

ends so terribly with, like, they kill the guy, 1010 00:53:36.829 --> 00:53:38.449 then there's no way off the planet, and then they 1011 00:53:38.590 --> 00:53:40.210 don't know how to end the movie, so they just 1012 00:53:40.250 --> 00:53:42.530 go like, let's figure out how to get off this 1013 00:53:42.570 --> 00:53:44.889 fucking planet. And then they walk off into the sunset, 1014 00:53:45.150 --> 00:53:47.289 and I'm going like, well... They just didn't know what 1015 00:53:47.309 --> 00:53:50.670 to do or how to satisfactorily close this movie out. 1016 00:53:50.849 --> 00:53:54.070 And even that, I was just like, as our doofus 1017 00:53:54.139 --> 00:53:56.800 leader keeps going, like, I can probably wing it. I 1018 00:53:56.820 --> 00:53:58.420 can figure out how to fly the ship. And I'm like, 1019 00:53:58.500 --> 00:54:02.199 all right, maybe. Maybe there's some basics to aviation there 1020 00:54:02.239 --> 00:54:03.199 that you can pick up on. 1021 00:54:03.239 --> 00:54:05.269 I've seen this in other sci-fi movies. You just sort 1022 00:54:05.309 --> 00:54:06.769 of wing it and fly the ship. 1023 00:54:07.269 --> 00:54:09.789 My thing is, you don't know where you are, like 1024 00:54:09.829 --> 00:54:11.889 not even on the planet, in. 1025 00:54:11.630 --> 00:54:14.219 The universe, like in the galaxy. 1026 00:54:14.320 --> 00:54:16.099 You have no idea where you are. How would you 1027 00:54:16.179 --> 00:54:20.300 navigate to get back home? For real. You don't speak 1028 00:54:20.360 --> 00:54:24.079 their language. You don't know their technology. Even if you 1029 00:54:24.119 --> 00:54:25.730 could wing it on the ship, how do you get 1030 00:54:25.769 --> 00:54:26.369 back home? 1031 00:54:26.590 --> 00:54:32.559 Yeah, exactly, dude. You're there's some problems there. 1032 00:54:32.639 --> 00:54:34.760 Yeah even they didn't know how to end that movie 1033 00:54:34.800 --> 00:54:36.880 and they kind of they were just like yeah whatever 1034 00:54:37.480 --> 00:54:39.300 were they thinking they were setting it up for a 1035 00:54:39.320 --> 00:54:41.409 sequel i don't know maybe i. 1036 00:54:41.849 --> 00:54:44.230 Don't it doesn't feel like it i mean maybe it 1037 00:54:44.250 --> 00:54:46.650 feels like it but it feels like uh they just 1038 00:54:46.670 --> 00:54:48.369 were out of ideas they. 1039 00:54:48.260 --> 00:54:49.639 Had like i don't know let's wrap this. 1040 00:54:49.599 --> 00:54:53.360 Up they had one idea, let's show predators. And then 1041 00:54:53.639 --> 00:54:59.059 once they did that, they were out of ideas. No, 1042 00:54:59.139 --> 00:55:02.000 it does kind of, but when we talk about mythology, yeah, 1043 00:55:02.099 --> 00:55:04.559 as you said, it does kind of like give us 1044 00:55:04.619 --> 00:55:08.500 another layer of the mythos, you know, predator two said, I, 1045 00:55:08.559 --> 00:55:12.000 this is part of the alien universe and predator three 1046 00:55:12.079 --> 00:55:14.679 predators kind of says like, Hey, sometimes they kidnap people 1047 00:55:14.719 --> 00:55:16.559 and put them in a game preserve and hunt them there. 1048 00:55:16.639 --> 00:55:16.900 Okay. 1049 00:55:17.659 --> 00:55:21.039 Well, and we start adding in other creatures, too. 1050 00:55:21.099 --> 00:55:25.059 So we get the, like, giant animals that they drop 1051 00:55:25.079 --> 00:55:27.610 down there with them, like, is the first wave of, like, 1052 00:55:27.650 --> 00:55:30.150 how can we take out these people? Which is weird. 1053 00:55:30.210 --> 00:55:31.969 I'm like, aren't you the ones that want to hunt them? Like, 1054 00:55:32.010 --> 00:55:34.829 why bother? Right. later it almost makes sense when they 1055 00:55:34.869 --> 00:55:37.449 have like hunting dogs then it kind of makes sense 1056 00:55:37.510 --> 00:55:39.389 but like those are just some other weird creature they 1057 00:55:39.409 --> 00:55:42.110 threw down there so i'm like what what what is 1058 00:55:42.150 --> 00:55:44.309 this accomplishing if you're the one supposed to be hunting 1059 00:55:44.349 --> 00:55:46.909 them but yeah so but we we then at least 1060 00:55:47.130 --> 00:55:50.110 widen the universe to okay here's some other alien creatures 1061 00:55:50.159 --> 00:55:54.300 that they hang around so yeah yeah we we continue 1062 00:55:54.340 --> 00:55:57.000 that on with the next movie definitely as we get 1063 00:55:57.079 --> 00:56:00.650 into predator dogs Predator dogs. Right. 1064 00:56:00.710 --> 00:56:03.849 Exactly. Exactly. Yeah. They have hunt dogs. That's kind of 1065 00:56:03.909 --> 00:56:07.550 a cool idea. They expanded it. 1066 00:56:07.610 --> 00:56:08.630 It does make sense. 1067 00:56:08.670 --> 00:56:08.869 Right. 1068 00:56:09.050 --> 00:56:10.289 Exactly. It fits in the universe. 1069 00:56:10.309 --> 00:56:11.730 As much as anything in this movie is going to 1070 00:56:11.769 --> 00:56:12.090 make sense. 1071 00:56:12.150 --> 00:56:13.909 It fits in the universe. It fits in the universe. 1072 00:56:13.949 --> 00:56:20.139 So after Predators left everybody lukewarm, how many years before 1073 00:56:20.199 --> 00:56:22.469 we got to the next one? I mean, it wasn't a... 1074 00:56:22.440 --> 00:56:23.179 It's like 2010 to 2018. 1075 00:56:23.179 --> 00:56:24.719 Yeah. 1076 00:56:24.739 --> 00:56:24.860 Okay. 1077 00:56:24.980 --> 00:56:25.260 Okay. So.... 1078 00:56:29.579 --> 00:56:33.280 It's a good stretch. Almost another decade, all right? And 1079 00:56:33.760 --> 00:56:35.119 so they brought. 1080 00:56:35.139 --> 00:56:36.800 Did you re-watch this one this week? 1081 00:56:37.039 --> 00:56:37.960 No, I didn't. 1082 00:56:38.380 --> 00:56:40.380 See, I did, and I'd seen it. 1083 00:56:40.550 --> 00:56:42.769 Like, I guess when that first year it came out 1084 00:56:42.809 --> 00:56:44.550 at least. I don't know if I... I might have 1085 00:56:44.590 --> 00:56:48.190 gone to the theater to see this. I don't know, but... Right,

right. 1086 00:56:48.289 --> 00:56:52.750 It is interesting because it's almost like then you gave... 1087 00:56:53.239 --> 00:56:56.670 the Predator franchise, you're like, what if we did a 1088 00:56:56.769 --> 00:57:01.130 funny one? He basically gave it to comedy writers. No 1089 00:57:01.170 --> 00:57:03.969 offense to Shane Black, who is a good writer, but 1090 00:57:04.409 --> 00:57:09.170 he is known for doing pretty humorous stuff, and Fred 1091 00:57:09.210 --> 00:57:13.440 Decker is a great guy, but he's also made really 1092 00:57:13.480 --> 00:57:15.920 funny movies, so it's like you gave it to these 1093 00:57:16.500 --> 00:57:19.420 two guys that, and I remember, I do remember thinking 1094 00:57:19.440 --> 00:57:20.719 this when I saw it the first time, it's like 1095 00:57:20.739 --> 00:57:24.769 you basically handed over one of their favorite franchises to 1096 00:57:24.809 --> 00:57:26.889 a couple of 12 year old boys and went, okay, 1097 00:57:26.909 --> 00:57:27.739 what do you guys want to do? 1098 00:57:28.110 --> 00:57:30.059 And they were just like, watch this. 1099 00:57:30.139 --> 00:57:33.719 And like, they just, they're giggling to themselves every step 1100 00:57:33.780 --> 00:57:36.719 of the way as they make this movie, because it 1101 00:57:36.780 --> 00:57:39.480 comes off as a comedy and it's got so many 1102 00:57:39.519 --> 00:57:43.159 little like shout outs to the previous movies and like 1103 00:57:43.239 --> 00:57:46.659 just so many little, and just sort of nerdy sci-fi 1104 00:57:46.699 --> 00:57:50.039 fan inside jokes and movie geek inside jokes that I'm 1105 00:57:50.059 --> 00:57:53.159 just like, it is just sort of made for that 1106 00:57:53.239 --> 00:57:56.150 purpose alone. And I don't know that it even like 1107 00:57:56.210 --> 00:57:58.909 plays for somebody who just likes predator movies. Yeah. 1108 00:57:59.090 --> 00:58:02.280 Yeah. I, I, so I'm kind of with you. I, 1109 00:58:02.269 --> 00:58:05.699 a lot of people hated this, but I had a 1110 00:58:05.760 --> 00:58:08.920 really good time watching it. So just from watching it 1111 00:58:09.119 --> 00:58:12.960 from what my memory of watching it going, like I'm 1112 00:58:12.980 --> 00:58:14.719 going like, man, that was a good time. You know, 1113 00:58:14.800 --> 00:58:16.199 I don't know if it's like. 1114 00:58:16.230 --> 00:58:19.469 You know, uh goofy as hell yeah it's like i 1115 00:58:19.469 --> 00:58:23.420 just re-watched it it's so goofy like it is just 1116 00:58:23.519 --> 00:58:26.659 a silly movie and they kind of know it like 1117 00:58:26.699 --> 00:58:29.019 it's not like they made a bad movie like they 1118 00:58:29.039 --> 00:58:31.420 knew what they were making like they they set out 1119 00:58:31.480 --> 00:58:34.719 to make this movie they wrote it she directed it 1120 00:58:34.800 --> 00:58:36.940 like they knew what they were making so it's just 1121 00:58:36.980 --> 00:58:41.050 kind of funny that Again, for a series of movies 1122 00:58:41.070 --> 00:58:43.659 that's been so serious up to this point, and definitely 1123 00:58:43.699 --> 00:58:48.400 coming off of Predators, taking itself super seriously. And then 1124 00:58:48.420 --> 00:58:51.800 you get to this, and it's just goofy as hell. 1125 00:58:51.920 --> 00:58:54.820 And it is fun, but you have to throw everything 1126 00:58:54.860 --> 00:58:57.340 out the window. You can't hold on to your old-timey 1127 00:58:57.400 --> 00:59:02.309 Predator love, because if you're expecting the Dutch movie, you're 1128 00:59:02.329 --> 00:59:03.550 going to be very upset. 1129 00:59:03.550 --> 00:59:04.769 Because this is. 1130 00:59:04.780 --> 00:59:07.300 Again, two 12 year old boys having fun playing with 1131 00:59:07.320 --> 00:59:08.480 their action videos. 1132 00:59:08.780 --> 00:59:11.400 Yeah and i think it was so good just to 1133 00:59:11.440 --> 00:59:14.400 see fred decker's name in a credit again and like 1134 00:59:14.570 --> 00:59:19.369 finally getting awesome getting out of movie jail for robocop 1135 00:59:19.369 --> 00:59:21.369 3 you know it was like i mean you know 1136 00:59:21.409 --> 00:59:24.610 he's done his time let him put something out you 1137 00:59:24.630 --> 00:59:25.960 know let him write something. 1138 00:59:26.340 --> 00:59:29.360 Again, talking to him years ago, he even said that. 1139 00:59:29.400 --> 00:59:31.579 He was like, yeah, I know people don't like that movie, 1140 00:59:31.619 --> 00:59:33.980 but they came to me and said, hey, do you 1141 00:59:34.019 --> 00:59:38.960 want to make a RoboCop movie? And I went, yeah. What, 1142 00:59:39.199 --> 00:59:41.780 are you going to say no? I'm a big fan 1143 00:59:41.840 --> 00:59:44.590 of RoboCop. They came to me and said, you want 1144 00:59:44.610 --> 00:59:45.230 to make. 1145 00:59:45.070 --> 00:59:46.369 A RoboCop movie? 1146 00:59:46.750 --> 00:59:49.170 He's like, yeah, I know the deck is stacked against me, 1147 00:59:49.230 --> 00:59:51.949 but I don't care. I got to make a RoboCop movie. 1148 00:59:52.130 --> 00:59:52.909 That's it. 1149 00:59:52.929 --> 00:59:54.610 So, yeah, he kind of took. 1150 00:59:55.190 --> 00:59:57.010 He took, yeah, but I was like, yeah, he took 1151 00:59:57.030 --> 00:59:58.630 the heat for it. But I'm like, I can't blame him. 1152 00:59:58.760 --> 00:59:59.639 I would have done it too. 1153 01:00:00.019 --> 01:00:03.260 Absolutely. Absolutely. Go down swinging at least, you know. 1154 01:00:03.820 --> 01:00:06.179 So this felt like that same thing. He loved the 1155 01:00:06.219 --> 01:00:09.300 Predators thing. And like he, well, he loved Predator as 1156 01:00:09.340 --> 01:00:12.250 a concept in the old movies. And like he got 1157 01:00:12.289 --> 01:00:14.769 to come play in the sandbox with his toys. And like, 1158 01:00:15.309 --> 01:00:18.690 that's fun, you know. It's not great, but it's fun. Yeah. 1159 01:00:19.110 --> 01:00:21.550 Yeah, I'm not mad at Fred Decker

for making a 1160 01:00:21.570 --> 01:00:25.719 bad RoboCop 3 movie. I mean, this was the, you've 1161 01:00:25.739 --> 01:00:28.179 got so much goodwill from Night of the Creeps and 1162 01:00:28.280 --> 01:00:30.679 Monster Squad that, you know, you go like, ah, man, 1163 01:00:31.000 --> 01:00:32.820 sorry it didn't work out. But, you know, things don't 1164 01:00:32.860 --> 01:00:36.219 work out sometimes. And they were trying to PG-13 eyes 1165 01:00:36.320 --> 01:00:38.219 everything back then. So, you know, I mean, yeah. 1166 01:00:38.480 --> 01:00:40.920 And you don't even have your lead anymore. So, again, 1167 01:00:40.940 --> 01:00:42.260 like the deck's stacked against it. 1168 01:00:42.280 --> 01:00:45.940 Deck is stacked against you, bro. and uh but but 1169 01:00:46.340 --> 01:00:48.079 uh yeah so it was great to see him and 1170 01:00:48.260 --> 01:00:51.179 i think the movie has like it's got a bigger 1171 01:00:51.239 --> 01:00:55.179 budget than uh whatchamacallit predators so they can do more 1172 01:00:55.280 --> 01:00:56.610 stuff and i mean i. 1173 01:00:56.590 --> 01:00:59.030 Don't remember i was pretty good and it like the 1174 01:00:59.090 --> 01:01:01.409 effects you know for what they were doing and the 1175 01:01:01.449 --> 01:01:03.110 budget they had it looks pretty good. 1176 01:01:03.489 --> 01:01:07.949 Absolutely and and and here we go who would you 1177 01:01:08.010 --> 01:01:13.639 rather hang out with Adrian Brody being dour and trying 1178 01:01:13.659 --> 01:01:16.860 to act like tough guy or Thomas Jane with his 1179 01:01:17.000 --> 01:01:21.909 wacky little idiosyncratic performance in that movie. I think he's 1180 01:01:21.929 --> 01:01:22.590 so much better. 1181 01:01:22.610 --> 01:01:24.630 The question is, do you want to hang out with 1182 01:01:24.670 --> 01:01:28.010 Olivia Munn all day? Yes, I want to hang out. 1183 01:01:27.929 --> 01:01:28.730 With Olivia Munn. 1184 01:01:29.130 --> 01:01:29.349 Right. 1185 01:01:29.650 --> 01:01:30.210 Right. 1186 01:01:30.250 --> 01:01:32.320 To me, that's the geek thing. Like it is just 1187 01:01:32.420 --> 01:01:35.300 nothing but geek cred. Like Olivia Munn was like the 1188 01:01:35.400 --> 01:01:38.119 queen of the geeks at that point in time. And 1189 01:01:38.139 --> 01:01:40.440 they got her to be in this movie. Then they're like, well, 1190 01:01:40.619 --> 01:01:42.380 what if we put Jake Busey in it? There's a 1191 01:01:42.420 --> 01:01:44.570 little tie to the old movie. Remember his dad was 1192 01:01:44.610 --> 01:01:45.409 in that one movie. 1193 01:01:45.610 --> 01:01:45.969 Yeah. 1194 01:01:46.010 --> 01:01:47.590 We got him for this one. So there's your little 1195 01:01:47.630 --> 01:01:50.590 geek tie in. Right. It's obviously a comedy. We're working 1196 01:01:50.630 --> 01:01:54.510 in Keegan. Michael Key is like doing jokes off. It 1197 01:01:54.530 --> 01:01:56.750 was like, we're back to the old bad jokes again. 1198 01:01:56.809 --> 01:01:59.639 Like from the first movie, like, So it's like it's 1199 01:01:59.659 --> 01:02:04.059 so not taking itself seriously the whole way through. 1200 01:02:04.159 --> 01:02:04.420 Yeah. 1201 01:02:05.400 --> 01:02:08.730 Yeah, I remember watching it and I remember going like, 1202 01:02:09.150 --> 01:02:11.250 that was pretty good. I don't know what everybody's problem 1203 01:02:11.269 --> 01:02:13.889 with this, you know? I mean, I guess they like. 1204 01:02:13.949 --> 01:02:15.550 I think it's just because it's so silly. 1205 01:02:15.829 --> 01:02:16.570 Yeah, yeah. 1206 01:02:16.690 --> 01:02:19.429 No one had seen... Like, even Predator 2 took itself 1207 01:02:19.510 --> 01:02:22.929 relatively seriously. It wasn't as heavy as the first one, 1208 01:02:22.969 --> 01:02:26.190 but it took itself seriously. Where this movie does not. Like, 1209 01:02:26.349 --> 01:02:29.789 everything about this movie is just... Let's have fun, guys. 1210 01:02:29.869 --> 01:02:33.559 It's just goofing around with the Predator property. You want 1211 01:02:33.599 --> 01:02:36.880 to make Predator dogs? Sure. Let's make dogs with dreadlocks. 1212 01:02:36.900 --> 01:02:38.739 Who gives a shit? 1213 01:02:39.090 --> 01:02:39.989 And they did. 1214 01:02:40.010 --> 01:02:41.889 Is it ridiculous? 1215 01:02:42.230 --> 01:02:43.449 Yes. Yes, it is. 1216 01:02:43.909 --> 01:02:46.550 Okay, I forgot that there's Predator dogs in that. Okay, 1217 01:02:46.570 --> 01:02:48.889 so I thought you were talking about the Predator dogs 1218 01:02:48.909 --> 01:02:50.960 from Predators, but no, there's Predator dogs. 1219 01:02:50.980 --> 01:02:53.559 No, this is, yeah, that's the one that has actual 1220 01:02:53.619 --> 01:02:56.940 Predator dogs. They have the Predator mouth, they have dreadlocks. No, wait, 1221 01:02:56.980 --> 01:02:58.099 I think the mouth is a little. 1222 01:02:57.920 --> 01:02:59.480 Different, but they definitely have dreadlocks. 1223 01:03:00.239 --> 01:03:00.780 Oh, my gosh. 1224 01:03:01.059 --> 01:03:01.400 That's hilarious. 1225 01:03:01.460 --> 01:03:04.320 Also, this is a movie that describes the Predator as 1226 01:03:04.460 --> 01:03:07.760 if Whoopi Goldberg was an alien. In the movie. That's 1227 01:03:07.820 --> 01:03:11.699 not a smart-ass reviewer making that comment. In the movie, 1228 01:03:11.739 --> 01:03:12.550 they say that. 1229 01:03:12.949 --> 01:03:14.829 And I was like, so Guinan? 1230 01:03:14.969 --> 01:03:16.409 We already have that. What are you talking about? 1231 01:03:16.630 --> 01:03:17.250 Absolutely right. 1232 01:03:17.389 --> 01:03:21.170 So, yeah, I was just like, this movie is so ridiculous. 1233 01:03:21.389 --> 01:03:23.409 And it knows it, and it's having fun with it. 1234 01:03:23.949 --> 01:03:26.230 So I think it's an all or nothing. You either 1235 01:03:26.309 --> 01:03:28.909 are okay with this movie or you hate this movie. 1236 01:03:28.949 --> 01:03:31.750 Right, because it doesn't

take it seriously. 1237 01:03:31.769 --> 01:03:35.750 It doesn't take the legacy of Predator's seat. I'm like, dude, 1238 01:03:35.789 --> 01:03:37.309 it's Predator. Calm down. 1239 01:03:37.369 --> 01:03:38.469 Everybody should chill. 1240 01:03:38.789 --> 01:03:41.750 I agree it's ridiculous, but calm down. 1241 01:03:42.530 --> 01:03:45.349 Right, right. So I haven't seen it in a while. 1242 01:03:45.389 --> 01:03:48.789 What does it add, if anything, to the mythos of 1243 01:03:49.269 --> 01:03:51.809 what do we learn more about the Predator story? 1244 01:03:52.570 --> 01:03:57.619 Well, this is the one we... It's on Earth. The 1245 01:03:57.739 --> 01:04:02.820 creature sort of crash lands, and then it's almost Area 51. 1246 01:04:02.820 --> 01:04:03.980 We've got one in a. 1247 01:04:04.360 --> 01:04:06.840 We've almost got the ID4 room where they walk in, 1248 01:04:06.880 --> 01:04:08.800 and we've got one strapped to a table. So we've 1249 01:04:08.840 --> 01:04:13.260 got a Predator. Once again, the self-awareness of the guys 1250 01:04:13.380 --> 01:04:16.800 in the room are calling him the Predator. They nicknamed 1251 01:04:16.820 --> 01:04:20.710 him the Predator. And then joke within a joke, then 1252 01:04:20.769 --> 01:04:23.329 Olivia Munn's like, well, he's not really what you're describing 1253 01:04:23.369 --> 01:04:24.050 as a predator. 1254 01:04:24.110 --> 01:04:25.230 He's like a game hunter. 1255 01:04:25.349 --> 01:04:28.610 Predator is, you know, like they're breaking down the terminology 1256 01:04:28.769 --> 01:04:32.909 of the entire franchise as being wrong. So like they're 1257 01:04:33.010 --> 01:04:36.800 making the joke about the whole predator as a whole, 1258 01:04:36.880 --> 01:04:39.460 as a concept. You're even calling it the wrong name. 1259 01:04:39.699 --> 01:04:42.139 I love that. Like that's how like irreverent they are 1260 01:04:42.199 --> 01:04:47.159 about this. Like they don't care. So yeah, then the 1261 01:04:47.340 --> 01:04:50.130 difference is, and the thing I think that was most interesting, 1262 01:04:50.190 --> 01:04:53.110 and I totally forgot, this is also maybe one of 1263 01:04:53.170 --> 01:04:58.300 the first mainstream movies that started working in... characters on 1264 01:04:58.320 --> 01:04:59.719 the spectrum which. 1265 01:04:59.599 --> 01:05:04.139 I thought would be interesting right right right knowing we've 1266 01:05:04.199 --> 01:05:07.300 both seen kids with that issue and yeah our main 1267 01:05:07.340 --> 01:05:09.980 kid the kids that are making fun of him keep 1268 01:05:10.119 --> 01:05:13.639 keep making Asperger's jokes so I guess technically maybe I 1269 01:05:13.659 --> 01:05:15.539 don't think he ever says it or his mom ever. 1270 01:05:15.420 --> 01:05:18.159 Says it but I guess he has Asperger's right and 1271 01:05:18.219 --> 01:05:21.579 then we also Thomas Jane's character has Tourette's so it's 1272 01:05:21.619 --> 01:05:24.659 like we've got all these weird spectrum issues going on 1273 01:05:24.679 --> 01:05:30.070 in this movie and like It's weird because... Surprisingly, it's 1274 01:05:30.510 --> 01:05:32.650 from the kid at least. Thomas Jane's a little cringy. 1275 01:05:33.090 --> 01:05:38.840 But the kid, not bad. Usually they really... It's hard 1276 01:05:38.880 --> 01:05:41.820 to get somebody to do a performance that's even close 1277 01:05:41.840 --> 01:05:43.920 to what really goes on with somebody on the spectrum. 1278 01:05:43.940 --> 01:05:47.440 Where this kid is just a little different, but he's 1279 01:05:47.559 --> 01:05:49.980 not overplaying it, which is the best thing you can 1280 01:05:50.039 --> 01:05:51.159 do in that kind of role. 1281 01:05:51.860 --> 01:05:52.420 Absolutely. 1282 01:05:52.460 --> 01:05:55.130 That was an interesting thing on the rewatch. There's a 1283 01:05:55.250 --> 01:05:59.690 whole lot of dealing with that. But yeah, as far 1284 01:05:59.730 --> 01:06:02.510 as the universe, we add in the fact that the 1285 01:06:02.650 --> 01:06:06.110 government knows about Predators. We have photos of him from 1286 01:06:06.570 --> 01:06:08.820 hanging off the building in LA back in the day. 1287 01:06:08.889 --> 01:06:11.219 So they're like, they've got a dossier going on this 1288 01:06:11.260 --> 01:06:12.900 whole overrun process. 1289 01:06:13.320 --> 01:06:13.619 Right. 1290 01:06:13.820 --> 01:06:16.019 And then now we've got him trying to do tests 1291 01:06:16.179 --> 01:06:16.480 on him. 1292 01:06:16.519 --> 01:06:19.320 And of course, then he wakes up and goes crazy 1293 01:06:19.340 --> 01:06:20.119 and kills everyone. 1294 01:06:20.219 --> 01:06:20.889 Right. 1295 01:06:20.969 --> 01:06:23.409 Right. And then he's just on the loose and they're 1296 01:06:23.429 --> 01:06:26.869 trying to not get killed by him and try to 1297 01:06:26.929 --> 01:06:31.130 get back to... Because then the guy finds his mask 1298 01:06:31.230 --> 01:06:34.639 and the arm piece and mails it to himself. But 1299 01:06:34.659 --> 01:06:36.159 it ends up going to his house and then the 1300 01:06:36.199 --> 01:06:39.900 kid has it. So he knows he's going after the technology. 1301 01:06:39.980 --> 01:06:42.079 So he's trying to get to it before he gets 1302 01:06:42.139 --> 01:06:43.860 to the kid and kills. 1303 01:06:43.679 --> 01:06:46.119 His son, essentially. Got it. 1304 01:06:46.219 --> 01:06:48.610 That becomes the focus of the last half of the 1305 01:06:48.639 --> 01:06:51.869 movie is this race to get to the... the helmet 1306 01:06:51.929 --> 01:06:54.449 and the stuff before the Predator also gets. 1307 01:06:54.309 --> 01:06:55.110 There and kills his kid. 1308 01:06:55.690 --> 01:06:58.349 Got it. Are there multiple Predators in this one? 1309 01:06:58.750 --> 01:06:59.130 There is. 1310 01:06:59.630 --> 01:07:01.730 Well, this is where we get the Super Predator, too. 1311 01:07:01.869 --> 01:07:06.380 Super Predator. So we get the, and I, this,

the 1312 01:07:06.440 --> 01:07:10.639 Super Predator is there, and it's, like, an 11-foot Predator. It's, like, huge. 1313 01:07:10.820 --> 01:07:11.250 Got it. 1314 01:07:11.360 --> 01:07:14.199 And, like, murders the other Predator, and then, like, we 1315 01:07:14.530 --> 01:07:16.590 chase him around for the whole last half of the movie. 1316 01:07:16.630 --> 01:07:17.369 Got it. 1317 01:07:17.659 --> 01:07:17.909 Got it. 1318 01:07:17.940 --> 01:07:20.460 Yeah, super predator and predator dogs. 1319 01:07:20.519 --> 01:07:20.940 Got it. 1320 01:07:21.079 --> 01:07:23.699 Well, they kind of do that than the predators because 1321 01:07:24.000 --> 01:07:26.550 that was kind of like something they talk about in 1322 01:07:26.800 --> 01:07:29.150 the Rodriguez one was like how there's kind of like 1323 01:07:29.190 --> 01:07:31.369 this blood feud between like the. 1324 01:07:31.670 --> 01:07:34.329 That was, yeah, the first time we saw that infighting 1325 01:07:34.369 --> 01:07:35.230 between predators. 1326 01:07:35.250 --> 01:07:35.489 Right. 1327 01:07:35.510 --> 01:07:38.070 Because you got the guy tied up that he frees 1328 01:07:38.150 --> 01:07:40.469 and then he's the one that kills the other predator. 1329 01:07:40.530 --> 01:07:43.340 So our guys don't even kill the predator. The other 1330 01:07:43.400 --> 01:07:44.659 predator kills the predator. 1331 01:07:45.199 --> 01:07:49.179 Right, right. Yeah, yeah. So it's like... Yeah, so there's big, 1332 01:07:49.500 --> 01:07:52.960 big mega predators, and then there's little shrimpy predators. But yeah, 1333 01:07:53.000 --> 01:07:56.070 I think they did a better job with that concept 1334 01:07:56.090 --> 01:07:57.130 than the Shaman Black one. 1335 01:07:57.190 --> 01:08:02.190 But again, expanding that universe of characters and creatures as well. 1336 01:08:02.250 --> 01:08:04.730 So now we've got different versions of predators, and we've 1337 01:08:04.750 --> 01:08:07.889 got the predator dogs that we had no idea existed, 1338 01:08:07.929 --> 01:08:12.329 but obviously shows there's a whole other piece of whatever. Like, 1339 01:08:12.389 --> 01:08:16.739 are they genetically creating these predator dogs? I don't know exactly. Right. 1340 01:08:17.229 --> 01:08:19.960 they're trying to figure out some weird basic stuff. Cause 1341 01:08:19.979 --> 01:08:21.819 they also do a test on the predator and he's 1342 01:08:21.840 --> 01:08:25.060 got human DNA in him. So like, once again, the 1343 01:08:25.119 --> 01:08:28.680 silliness of this movie, Olivia Munn says, so do you 1344 01:08:28.720 --> 01:08:30.760 want to, you want to find out a human fucked 1345 01:08:30.819 --> 01:08:32.659 a predator or something to that. 1346 01:08:32.600 --> 01:08:34.020 Effect or vice versa. 1347 01:08:34.039 --> 01:08:37.180 So yeah, like there's weird stuff they're throwing into the 1348 01:08:37.220 --> 01:08:39.020 mythology here that I'm like, I don't even know where 1349 01:08:39.050 --> 01:08:41.890 they were going with it. They're just throwing out ideas. 1350 01:08:44.289 --> 01:08:48.819 Can we breathe some life into this? Uh, It can 1351 01:08:48.859 --> 01:08:51.739 just be a viable franchise that we can make a movie. 1352 01:08:51.460 --> 01:08:52.310 Every three years. 1353 01:08:52.310 --> 01:08:53.779 And the answer was, no, not really. 1354 01:08:53.779 --> 01:08:54.560 Not yet. not yet. 1355 01:08:54.569 --> 01:08:56.260 Because then it died again. 1356 01:08:56.380 --> 01:08:57.500 Yeah, exactly. 1357 01:08:57.560 --> 01:08:58.079 DOA. 1358 01:08:59.600 --> 01:09:02.979 Yep, yep. But it deserves a better rep, I think. 1359 01:09:03.039 --> 01:09:05.159 It's a pretty fun movie. So, you know. 1360 01:09:05.350 --> 01:09:09.210 And it quotes its own movies like three or four times. Like, 1361 01:09:09.289 --> 01:09:13.640 it works in lines from the other movies... or variations 1362 01:09:13.680 --> 01:09:16.680 that are in jokes like it is so inside jokey 1363 01:09:16.720 --> 01:09:19.760 in its own little predator world it is ridiculous so 1364 01:09:20.420 --> 01:09:22.500 again i think that's the kind of stuff that people 1365 01:09:22.539 --> 01:09:24.220 are going to roll their eyes and write this movie 1366 01:09:24.319 --> 01:09:27.560 off so sure that's what happened for several more years 1367 01:09:27.800 --> 01:09:31.420 till we get to uh you know 2022. 1368 01:09:30.800 --> 01:09:34.079 And that's prey right but we finally got the first 1369 01:09:34.239 --> 01:09:37.739 it doesn't say predator right right anywhere in the title 1370 01:09:38.199 --> 01:09:41.640 it's the only one really They didn't call it Predator 1371 01:09:41.680 --> 01:09:42.399 colon Prey. 1372 01:09:44.479 --> 01:09:45.739 Predator slash Prey. 1373 01:09:45.819 --> 01:09:47.819 Predator slash Prey. Right, exactly. 1374 01:09:47.840 --> 01:09:51.119 So I love this one. It kind of came out 1375 01:09:51.140 --> 01:09:53.899 of nowhere, and even because it didn't have that in 1376 01:09:53.939 --> 01:09:57.170 the title, people, I think, didn't know for sure that's 1377 01:09:57.189 --> 01:10:00.229 what it was until, I guess, maybe it's in the trailer, 1378 01:10:00.250 --> 01:10:01.670 and you were like, oh, wait, this is like a 1379 01:10:01.689 --> 01:10:06.010 Predator movie? They're rebooting Predator again? It's more or less 1380 01:10:06.029 --> 01:10:07.170 what it feels like they were doing. 1381 01:10:07.609 --> 01:10:12.760 Absolutely. Well, I had... it just not going theatrical from 1382 01:10:12.920 --> 01:10:15.899 what I remember. I think it just came out on Hulu. 1383 01:10:16.539 --> 01:10:17.140 Yeah. 1384 01:10:17.420 --> 01:10:20.869 But that's also coming out of a bad time for 1385 01:10:20.930 --> 01:10:22.430 things to go theatrical. 1386 01:10:22.529 --> 01:10:22.909 Right. 1387 01:10:23.149 --> 01:10:25.909 So I think that was part of it too. 1388 01:10:26.449 --> 01:10:26.590 Yeah. 1389 01:10:26.649 -->

01:10:28.350 I don't really know that. Maybe they just made a 1390 01:10:28.390 --> 01:10:30.300 deal to go straight to Hulu. I don't know. 1391 01:10:30.340 --> 01:10:32.500 But yeah, I don't, more importantly. 1392 01:10:32.659 --> 01:10:36.359 It's, it's, the first time we've handed it over to 1393 01:10:36.399 --> 01:10:39.810 Dan Trachtenberg. Right. So that's where I guess we're eventually 1394 01:10:39.850 --> 01:10:40.510 going to go to. 1395 01:10:40.670 --> 01:10:41.689 That's pretty much it. 1396 01:10:42.109 --> 01:10:44.350 He's the new king of the Predators. 1397 01:10:44.369 --> 01:10:49.279 Yes. And again, if ever you're a geek that feels seen, like... 1398 01:10:49.600 --> 01:10:52.840 Dan is like one of us, man. I knew Dan 1399 01:10:53.020 --> 01:10:55.720 as a podcaster, for God's sake. Oh, really? 1400 01:10:55.819 --> 01:10:56.840 Wow. 1401 01:10:57.520 --> 01:11:00.439 When I first started doing one, one of the few 1402 01:11:00.479 --> 01:11:02.140 that was out there that I was listening to, because 1403 01:11:02.159 --> 01:11:03.500 I had to go back and make sure. I was like, 1404 01:11:03.539 --> 01:11:05.979 I think this is what he was on. I think 1405 01:11:06.020 --> 01:11:09.789 he was on Slashfilm a lot. Oh, okay. slash film 1406 01:11:09.829 --> 01:11:13.750 cast was like one of the earlier podcasts specifically about 1407 01:11:13.810 --> 01:11:16.289 movies and like I couldn't remember if he was actually 1408 01:11:16.329 --> 01:11:18.789 like a rotating cast member but I think he was 1409 01:11:18.829 --> 01:11:21.439 just guest a lot like I remember him being on 1410 01:11:21.460 --> 01:11:24.260 there enough that I knew his name from that far 1411 01:11:24.340 --> 01:11:27.699 back yeah and then he also went on because then 1412 01:11:27.739 --> 01:11:30.380 he's part of a bunch of shows so he's then 1413 01:11:31.560 --> 01:11:37.279 let's see He was a host on geekdrome.com. He then 1414 01:11:37.420 --> 01:11:39.920 had a video show that was the Totally Rad Show 1415 01:11:39.960 --> 01:11:43.850 that he co-hosted with two other guys. And then at 1416 01:11:43.890 --> 01:11:46.630 that point, yeah, he started, I think he directed episodes 1417 01:11:46.689 --> 01:11:50.510 of Control Alt Chicken podcast, which I guess I need 1418 01:11:50.529 --> 01:11:53.180 to go find. So at that point, yeah, he was 1419 01:11:53.220 --> 01:11:55.020 just kind of on the geek side of things and 1420 01:11:55.039 --> 01:11:58.380 like doing that kind of stuff and started like directing 1421 01:11:58.439 --> 01:12:01.079 short films and And, like, obviously that's what he set 1422 01:12:01.140 --> 01:12:02.840 out to do, was be a director. But he just 1423 01:12:02.859 --> 01:12:05.609 sort of edged his way in doing short films. And 1424 01:12:05.630 --> 01:12:08.489 then he did an episode of Black Mirror. And then 1425 01:12:08.529 --> 01:12:11.609 he full-fledged kind of jumped into it and made, again, 1426 01:12:11.649 -->

01:12:14.210 what I think is one of the best horror movies 1427 01:12:14.609 --> 01:12:18.609 that gets lumped in as a sci-fi movie. But 10 1428 01:12:18.609 --> 01:12:20.279 Cloverfield Lane is amazing. 1429 01:12:20.520 --> 01:12:20.880 It's good. 1430 01:12:21.319 --> 01:12:24.760 And I was not prepared to like that near as much. 1431 01:12:24.659 --> 01:12:25.119 As I did. 1432 01:12:25.560 --> 01:12:27.319 Right, right. Absolutely. 1433 01:12:27.439 --> 01:12:27.880 Yeah, he got. 1434 01:12:28.279 --> 01:12:31.199 He got in the J.J. Abrams circle and got some 1435 01:12:31.220 --> 01:12:33.350 real money to work with and showed that he could 1436 01:12:33.390 --> 01:12:33.770 handle it. 1437 01:12:33.899 --> 01:12:35.590 And did the best movie out of them. 1438 01:12:36.189 --> 01:12:39.989 I like Cloverfield alright, but 10 Cloverfield Lane is so 1439 01:12:40.029 --> 01:12:40.489 much better. 1440 01:12:40.890 --> 01:12:44.250 Just as a film. As a concept and as a film. 1441 01:12:45.000 --> 01:12:46.220 It is solid. 1442 01:12:46.399 --> 01:12:48.859 And like Cloverfield just feels like an experiment. 1443 01:12:48.920 --> 01:12:50.960 Like, can we do it like this? Like it felt 1444 01:12:51.000 --> 01:12:55.350 like them presenting this idea in a, in a world 1445 01:12:55.369 --> 01:12:57.810 that was about to be overrun with found footage movies. 1446 01:12:57.890 --> 01:13:00.470 It was like, can we make this work? And yeah, 1447 01:13:00.729 --> 01:13:03.489 they can, but which do I want to go back 1448 01:13:03.529 --> 01:13:06.880 and watch again? Yeah. It's Tim Cloverfield. Right. Right. 1449 01:13:07.279 --> 01:13:07.500 Yeah. 1450 01:13:07.520 --> 01:13:07.720 Yeah. 1451 01:13:07.899 --> 01:13:09.260 Yeah. It's a cool movie. 1452 01:13:09.659 --> 01:13:10.020 Um, yeah. 1453 01:13:11.340 --> 01:13:14.770 Yeah, so I don't, I gotta say, I did not 1454 01:13:14.810 --> 01:13:19.489 go back and revisit Prey before watching this, but I 1455 01:13:19.619 --> 01:13:22.399 do just, I have nothing but fond memories of it. 1456 01:13:23.340 --> 01:13:28.000 It's just such a like a hardcore version of this idea, 1457 01:13:28.100 --> 01:13:30.939 you know, because it's it's the first time we go 1458 01:13:31.520 --> 01:13:34.859 back in time. Like we're not doing modern era, you know, 1459 01:13:34.899 --> 01:13:38.340 before it was modern era out in the jungles. And 1460 01:13:38.380 --> 01:13:42.399 then we had future in quotation marks, L.A. like we're 1461 01:13:42.430 --> 01:13:45.279 back in the jungles again. So everything's modern day now. 1462 01:13:45.750 --> 01:13:49.069 But we've alluded to over the years in this mythology 1463 01:13:49.130 --> 01:13:52.670 that they've been doing this for years and years and generations. 1464 01:13:52.789 --> 01:13:56.609 So we go all the way back to before the 1465 01:13:56.949 --> 01:13:59.489 stupid white people showed up in this country. So we've 1466 01:13:59.529 --> 01:14:03.449 got these

native characters that are here. And the fact 1467 01:14:03.489 --> 01:14:06.979 that they speak their own language the whole time. The 1468 01:14:07.039 --> 01:14:10.100 whole thing is presented as if it's their story. And 1469 01:14:10.279 --> 01:14:12.300 once again, kind of like the first movie. It's their 1470 01:14:12.359 --> 01:14:17.039 story telling this version of, once again... something totally different. 1471 01:14:17.060 --> 01:14:19.819 We have a female protagonist for God's sakes, like, and 1472 01:14:19.840 --> 01:14:25.630 she's good. Like she's really solid and like carries this movie. 1473 01:14:25.869 --> 01:14:28.609 And so like the fact that we're telling her story 1474 01:14:28.670 --> 01:14:31.149 and her dealing with what's going on in her tribe 1475 01:14:31.189 --> 01:14:33.630 and like all this other stuff. And then like the 1476 01:14:33.649 --> 01:14:36.149 first movie, Oh, by the way, an alien shows up 1477 01:14:36.550 --> 01:14:39.949 trying to hunt people. Like, yeah. So again, it's like 1478 01:14:40.069 --> 01:14:43.800 revisiting that concept of, but in a new and pretty 1479 01:14:43.939 --> 01:14:48.420 serious way. Not that it's not fun, but not silly 1480 01:14:48.479 --> 01:14:51.779 like the last movie. It takes itself seriously again, so 1481 01:14:51.819 --> 01:14:54.680 much so that we're immersed in this tribe and the 1482 01:14:54.760 --> 01:14:57.760 whole thing is kind of from their perspective and that 1483 01:14:57.819 --> 01:15:01.619 time period perspective and it's not winking at the camera 1484 01:15:01.659 --> 01:15:03.859 doing silly stuff like the last movie. It's back to 1485 01:15:03.899 --> 01:15:06.779 being a serious movie about this woman. 1486 01:15:08.119 --> 01:15:12.600 The good Predator movies seem to have a point of 1487 01:15:12.760 --> 01:15:17.300 view and being told from an interesting point of view 1488 01:15:17.460 --> 01:15:22.159 from predator with like the, the, the, the, the, the 1489 01:15:22.439 --> 01:15:25.579 band of brothers point of view. And then with prey 1490 01:15:25.920 --> 01:15:29.260 from a, an Indian tribe point of view and, and 1491 01:15:29.319 --> 01:15:34.829 the dynamics within the tribe and treating that with, with 1492 01:15:35.090 --> 01:15:37.810 real respect and like going like, okay, this is like 1493 01:15:37.850 --> 01:15:39.989 a real world. You know, there's a certain amount of 1494 01:15:40.310 --> 01:15:43.609 what it feels like. you know, Predator, you can actually, 1495 01:15:44.229 --> 01:15:47.800 it feels real like these guys would have to be 1496 01:15:47.859 --> 01:15:51.260 that way to survive in the world that they live in, right? 1497 01:15:51.880 --> 01:15:54.659 Predator 2 feels like a bunch of actors playing Law 1498 01:15:54.699 --> 01:15:59.369 and Order. You know, they don't, it doesn't feel real, 1499 01:15:59.590 --> 01:16:03.630 you know? But Prey, you can kind of get into 1500 01:16:03.670 --> 01:16:05.890 that world, you know, and go like, oh, this is 1501 01:16:05.930 --> 01:16:08.939 being told from a, this is like not just going 1502 01:16:08.960 --> 01:16:11.930 to be a retread, We're actually going to tell it 1503 01:16:11.939 --> 01:16:16.770 from an interesting environment, you know, and a new point 1504 01:16:16.810 --> 01:16:18.970 of view looking at this story. So which is a 1505 01:16:19.489 --> 01:16:22.670 good reason to make a sequel. We've got a reason 1506 01:16:22.710 --> 01:16:26.369 to exist here. How does this story play out in 1507 01:16:26.449 --> 01:16:27.949 this environment, you know? 1508 01:16:28.960 --> 01:16:30.939 I mean, everything is kind of new. It's like it's 1509 01:16:30.960 --> 01:16:33.439 a new perspective. It's a new time period. 1510 01:16:33.939 --> 01:16:37.960 It's new in the Predator sense because it's also old-timey Predator. 1511 01:16:38.020 --> 01:16:39.920 So we got like a bone mask and like our. 1512 01:16:39.880 --> 01:16:44.340 Technology is way more rudimentary. It's still like way more 1513 01:16:44.399 --> 01:16:48.229 evolved than the tribe as far as weaponry and space travel, obviously. 1514 01:16:48.699 --> 01:16:49.729 But like it's still. 1515 01:16:50.409 --> 01:16:53.069 pretty like primal compared to where we get in the 1516 01:16:53.109 --> 01:16:54.729 rest of them where they have you know all the 1517 01:16:54.789 --> 01:16:58.470 crazy laser attachments and all the stuff that the mask 1518 01:16:58.529 --> 01:17:01.149 does for them and like all this other technology that 1519 01:17:01.180 --> 01:17:03.640 they're reliant on that like there's not near as much 1520 01:17:03.680 --> 01:17:06.300 of that with this predator so even the predator itself 1521 01:17:06.399 --> 01:17:08.539 is a different version of the predator well it. 1522 01:17:08.539 --> 01:17:10.960 Makes it more i guess mythic what i what i 1523 01:17:11.000 --> 01:17:14.550 like about the thing about the predator is because it's 1524 01:17:14.569 --> 01:17:16.630 been around for so long where they talk about it 1525 01:17:16.689 --> 01:17:19.729 in the in the first one where it would seem 1526 01:17:19.770 --> 01:17:22.510 like this evil spirit. They keep calling it the demon. 1527 01:17:22.569 --> 01:17:24.659 And even in Predator 2, they call it the demon 1528 01:17:24.699 --> 01:17:27.630 a few times, where it's like, you know... like some 1529 01:17:27.670 --> 01:17:29.109 kind of bad voodoo spirit. 1530 01:17:29.130 --> 01:17:30.989 Because it's a serial killer in this film. 1531 01:17:31.170 --> 01:17:31.909 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 1532 01:17:31.930 --> 01:17:34.329 They're like, who's this weird guy that keeps stringing people 1533 01:17:34.529 --> 01:17:36.090 up and ripping their spines out? 1534 01:17:36.689 --> 01:17:39.829 It just seems like part of Seven for a minute there. 1535 01:17:39.869 --> 01:17:44.220 Yeah. They're on the crime scene, blood and guts everywhere. 1536 01:17:44.300 --> 01:17:45.180 It's true.

1537 01:17:45.199 --> 01:17:47.699 This killer is doing weird stuff to the bodies. And 1538 01:17:47.720 --> 01:17:49.520 I'm like, yeah, that's Seven. I watched that movie. I 1539 01:17:49.539 --> 01:17:49.960 like that one. 1540 01:17:50.060 --> 01:17:52.600 Yeah, yeah. It is kind of part of the serial 1541 01:17:52.619 --> 01:17:53.819 killer phase. 1542 01:17:53.899 --> 01:17:56.279 It was for a minute. A little bit, yeah. 1543 01:17:57.039 --> 01:17:59.520 Yeah, but, so, so, yeah, but, you know, you think of, like, 1544 01:17:59.539 --> 01:18:02.460 things like the Windingo and, like, you know, you know, 1545 01:18:02.539 --> 01:18:07.140 it seems like the Predator would just fit right into, like, the, the, 1546 01:18:07.600 --> 01:18:09.800 the Native American, it kind of does, you know, kind of. 1547 01:18:09.850 --> 01:18:12.310 A mythology of everything. 1548 01:18:12.449 --> 01:18:15.609 Yeah, the, the, the Predator kind of feel of, you know. 1549 01:18:16.529 --> 01:18:20.550 hunters and tribal and there's always something kind of you 1550 01:18:20.590 --> 01:18:24.350 know uh ancient you know indian culture about it you 1551 01:18:24.390 --> 01:18:26.449 know uh you know with like a lot of the 1552 01:18:26.489 --> 01:18:29.750 mayan kind of look of everything it. 1553 01:18:29.750 --> 01:18:32.840 Is tied more to their life than like you know 1554 01:18:32.880 --> 01:18:36.439 your la cops you know so it's like yeah the 1555 01:18:36.479 --> 01:18:39.340 tribes and the hunting is very rooted so again that's 1556 01:18:39.420 --> 01:18:43.189 why this story is so different and important you know 1557 01:18:43.319 --> 01:18:45.359 in what they're trying to do is because it's the 1558 01:18:45.420 --> 01:18:48.130 parallels between the two and like so what happens when 1559 01:18:48.689 --> 01:18:51.069 you come up against somebody who is also living this 1560 01:18:51.109 --> 01:18:53.529 kind of life and is also pretty hardcore and is 1561 01:18:53.569 --> 01:18:55.939 ready to take you on and like yeah that's sort 1562 01:18:56.000 --> 01:18:58.359 of what the first movie was and then we sort 1563 01:18:58.380 --> 01:19:00.359 of returned it in a whole different way in. 1564 01:19:00.319 --> 01:19:04.939 Prey absolutely Dang. Yeah, Prey's pretty awesome. 1565 01:19:05.260 --> 01:19:06.640 Prey is really awesome. 1566 01:19:06.659 --> 01:19:08.819 Which is why I was going into it going, oh man, 1567 01:19:08.899 --> 01:19:10.100 they gave it to the right guy. 1568 01:19:10.119 --> 01:19:11.600 Yeah, he gets it. 1569 01:19:11.680 --> 01:19:16.359 He's taking it seriously and he's involved in what the 1570 01:19:16.520 --> 01:19:18.460 mythology is supposed to be and what he wants to 1571 01:19:18.520 --> 01:19:21.720 do with it. yeah but then like moving forward like 1572 01:19:21.939 --> 01:19:24.979 then he also like that you can see that planting 1573 01:19:25.010 --> 01:19:27.750 the seed of like okay well now we've established that 1574 01:19:28.029 --> 01:19:30.729 this has gone on for thousands of years at least 1575 01:19:30.750 --> 01:19:33.729 if not you know who knows how long so we're 1576 01:19:33.750 --> 01:19:36.390 going back in time you can take all these different 1577 01:19:36.409 --> 01:19:39.869 little snapshots of people and places and insert a predator 1578 01:19:39.909 --> 01:19:42.710 and you've got a whole new story so that's the 1579 01:19:42.750 --> 01:19:46.170 next movie that comes out is killer of killers And, like, 1580 01:19:46.289 --> 01:19:50.029 it is that version done, like, three different times. 1581 01:19:50.180 --> 01:19:51.939 So I know you said you hadn't seen this one yet, right? 1582 01:19:51.960 --> 01:19:53.359 I haven't seen it yet. I haven't seen it. So 1583 01:19:53.520 --> 01:19:55.000 don't spoil it, but tell me kind of the gist. 1584 01:19:55.020 --> 01:19:57.680 I will, but it is, yeah, this one is animated, 1585 01:19:57.880 --> 01:20:02.939 and it does basically just take a little snapshot of, like, 1586 01:20:02.979 --> 01:20:05.619 three different characters that's sort of the same type of 1587 01:20:05.649 --> 01:20:08.649 thing that was going on in Prey. So we go 1588 01:20:08.689 --> 01:20:14.630 to Scandinavia in 841 with Viking warriors. Oh, dude. Again, 1589 01:20:14.649 --> 01:20:17.880 we're just taking the greatest warriors of all time now 1590 01:20:18.300 --> 01:20:20.359 and inserting a predator into the story. 1591 01:20:20.439 --> 01:20:22.020 So we go back to Viking times. 1592 01:20:22.420 --> 01:20:26.300 Then we go to 1609 Japan and we pull in 1593 01:20:26.340 --> 01:20:31.970 a samurai. And then we go to World War II 1594 01:20:32.189 --> 01:20:34.630 and we pull in a fighter pilot. So it's like 1595 01:20:34.649 --> 01:20:38.289 we've got these... people from battles and all different parts 1596 01:20:38.449 --> 01:20:41.449 of time and space and, you know, anywhere that's going 1597 01:20:41.710 --> 01:20:45.750 on in our history. Anyway, we're pulling these characters from, 1598 01:20:45.770 --> 01:20:50.220 and this is more of that original, like Rodriguez idea. 1599 01:20:50.279 --> 01:20:53.380 Cause then they take them back to do battle essentially. 1600 01:20:53.460 --> 01:20:56.899 So it is more of like a, a arena type 1601 01:20:56.920 --> 01:20:59.319 of battle then. So that, that is more or less 1602 01:20:59.359 --> 01:21:01.859 where it goes again. I won't go too far into it, 1603 01:21:01.920 --> 01:21:04.670 but it is, it is really cool that we're doing 1604 01:21:04.689 --> 01:21:08.039 that same thing of taking, uh, different perspectives and different 1605 01:21:08.100 --> 01:21:11.229 warriors with a different take on how they approach battle 1606 01:21:11.329 --> 01:21:15.329 and how they approach being a warrior themselves and what, 1607 01:21:15.850 --> 01:21:18.180 what it is they're supposed to do when they have 1608 01:21:18.239 --> 01:21:20.100 an enemy that they come up

against. Cause they each 1609 01:21:20.140 --> 01:21:22.100 kind of have a different take on how they deal 1610 01:21:22.119 --> 01:21:25.960 with this. So it's really well done and the animation 1611 01:21:25.979 --> 01:21:29.359 looks good. And yeah, so it's, it's, it's worth seeing, 1612 01:21:29.520 --> 01:21:33.550 even if it wasn't also, you know, done by Dan Trachtenberg. 1613 01:21:33.590 --> 01:21:36.010 So I thought maybe it would have even been farmed out, 1614 01:21:36.069 --> 01:21:38.810 but no, he's, he's involved in this just as much 1615 01:21:38.890 --> 01:21:39.460 as the other one. 1616 01:21:40.000 --> 01:21:43.930 Yeah, he seems to be getting... He's kind of quiet on... 1617 01:21:44.539 --> 01:21:47.539 a pulse on how to expand this out and actually meet, 1618 01:21:47.859 --> 01:21:49.699 make it mean something, you know? 1619 01:21:51.500 --> 01:21:54.279 And again, like if, if he were a lesser filmmaker, 1620 01:21:54.340 --> 01:21:54.800 I think. 1621 01:21:54.680 --> 01:21:57.800 This could have fallen flat or just seem like cashing 1622 01:21:57.920 --> 01:22:00.079 in because, Oh, that made money. So now we're going 1623 01:22:00.100 --> 01:22:02.539 to do this one. And when I saw this coming out, 1624 01:22:02.579 --> 01:22:05.460 I was like, wait, they're doing two predator movies in 1625 01:22:05.500 --> 01:22:08.199 the same year. Yeah. Yeah. Once again, I thought it 1626 01:22:08.239 --> 01:22:10.619 was different people. I thought like a whole different crew 1627 01:22:10.699 --> 01:22:12.890 is making the animated one. And then Dan was coming 1628 01:22:12.930 --> 01:22:15.789 back to do the theatrical one. But no, it was 1629 01:22:15.850 --> 01:22:19.689 him doing both of them because he said because Prey 1630 01:22:19.750 --> 01:22:22.810 was received so well that he then had this idea 1631 01:22:22.850 --> 01:22:23.970 of three. 1632 01:22:23.770 --> 01:22:24.520 New things to do. 1633 01:22:25.079 --> 01:22:28.060 And because Prey had done well, he kind of had 1634 01:22:28.079 --> 01:22:31.739 the green light to start doing them. And because... the 1635 01:22:31.859 --> 01:22:34.340 animated one, you know, the animation at least was going 1636 01:22:34.359 --> 01:22:37.460 to be not him hands on every day. He could 1637 01:22:37.479 --> 01:22:39.590 start working on the film part of that one while 1638 01:22:39.600 --> 01:22:42.449 still sort of running the, the overall take of how 1639 01:22:42.489 --> 01:22:45.270 everything was going in the animated one, but be working 1640 01:22:45.369 --> 01:22:47.989 on the live action. So that's how he got them 1641 01:22:48.050 --> 01:22:50.710 kind of rolling at the same time and how we 1642 01:22:50.750 --> 01:22:51.770 got to in the same year. 1643 01:22:52.329 --> 01:22:54.149 That's pretty great, man. Pretty great. 1644 01:22:54.189 --> 01:22:54.380 Yeah. 1645 01:22:54.399 --> 01:22:56.279 I got to check that one out today and everything, or, 1646 01:22:56.460 --> 01:23:00.100 you know, this week, uh, uh, yeah, that sounds great. 1647 01:23:00.239 --> 01:23:01.569 That sounds like a good concept. 1648 01:23:01.810 --> 01:23:01.989 Yeah. 1649 01:23:02.029 --> 01:23:03.930 It's kind of like cool. It was like the predator 1650 01:23:04.050 --> 01:23:07.250 is like this thing that like feeds off the bad 1651 01:23:07.409 --> 01:23:11.149 vibes of, uh, the, the earth, you know, or other 1652 01:23:11.189 --> 01:23:12.949 places too. I guess, you know, it was like, uh, 1653 01:23:12.949 --> 01:23:15.270 you know, all you do is hear about this, uh, 1654 01:23:15.750 --> 01:23:17.329 all the war, you know, it kind of like takes 1655 01:23:17.390 --> 01:23:22.609 like headlines, you know, the Guatemala, uh, you know, our involvement, 1656 01:23:22.649 --> 01:23:27.090 political involvement in, uh, Guatemala. And then like the LA problems, uh, 1657 01:23:27.590 --> 01:23:30.649 You know, and then... The. 1658 01:23:30.310 --> 01:23:31.600 Worst parts of humanity. 1659 01:23:31.649 --> 01:23:34.220 That's what we're looking for. The worst parts of humanity. Yeah, 1660 01:23:34.239 --> 01:23:38.199 I guess the Rodriguez one, you know, the... All the different. 1661 01:23:38.220 --> 01:23:39.340 Serial killers and Yakuza. 1662 01:23:39.359 --> 01:23:40.979 Serial killers and Yakuza. 1663 01:23:41.000 --> 01:23:41.539 Gangbangers. 1664 01:23:41.600 --> 01:23:46.600 Gangbangers. All the, you know, death squads. All the bad, 1665 01:23:46.640 --> 01:23:49.760 you know, the human conflict, the war and everything. 1666 01:23:49.840 --> 01:23:50.159 The people. 1667 01:23:51.100 --> 01:23:56.800 Man's inhumanity to man, and Predator's this being that feeds 1668 01:23:56.939 --> 01:23:57.399 off that. 1669 01:23:57.420 --> 01:24:00.359 It's like, this is exactly what I'm looking for. 1670 01:24:00.369 --> 01:24:01.949 That's exactly what I'm looking for. 1671 01:24:02.029 --> 01:24:02.510 Right, right. 1672 01:24:02.770 --> 01:24:06.550 If it was like a kumbaya planet, nobody would. 1673 01:24:07.260 --> 01:24:08.760 He just shows up and just shrugs. 1674 01:24:08.819 --> 01:24:12.859 Like, what am I going to do with you damn hippies? 1675 01:24:12.899 --> 01:24:15.100 You're not even going to give me anything. You're not 1676 01:24:15.140 --> 01:24:17.500 even a challenge. You're wasting my time. 1677 01:24:17.939 --> 01:24:19.590 And he closes the door and flies off. 1678 01:24:20.010 --> 01:24:23.710 That's right. But it comes down. They're like, peace, man. 1679 01:24:23.770 --> 01:24:28.029 Puts a little flower in his silver cannon. 1680 01:24:28.050 --> 01:24:33.229 You're like, I'm out of here. You guys suck. nuke 1681 01:24:33.250 --> 01:24:34.430 the planet from orbit. 1682 01:24:34.329 --> 01:24:36.710 Just to be safe yeah just to be safe just. 1683 01:24:36.529 --> 01:24:39.590 To be sure speaking of crossover universes just to be. 1684 01:24:39.569 --> 01:24:46.659 Safe that's right um heading

into the badlands I guess 1685 01:24:46.720 --> 01:24:49.800 we should officially if we're calling this our movie of 1686 01:24:49.840 --> 01:24:51.300 the our. 1687 01:24:51.239 --> 01:24:55.649 Movie of the episode uh technically I know it was 1688 01:24:55.670 --> 01:24:56.310 a little bit of a. 1689 01:24:56.250 --> 01:24:59.449 Lead up it was get. 1690 01:24:59.489 --> 01:25:06.750 More out of life Go out to. 1691 01:25:06.909 --> 01:25:12.350 A movie. 1692 01:25:20.739 --> 01:25:27.880 So this is your first hunt. And you've come to 1693 01:25:27.920 --> 01:25:54.220 the most dangerous planet in the universe. You're after a 1694 01:25:54.279 --> 01:26:00.380 creature that can't be killed. The definitive apex predator. 1695 01:26:00.399 --> 01:26:11.109 I could help you. Well, good luck with your journey. 1696 01:26:20.430 --> 01:26:21.529 Here, you're not the predator. 1697 01:26:26.989 --> 01:26:27.529 You're the prey. 1698 01:26:51.590 --> 01:26:53.310 We might not be alone in this hunt. 1699 01:27:20.449 --> 01:27:28.930 Looking through the forest Around the mountainside Moving through the 1700 01:27:28.949 --> 01:27:35.229 darkness I'm a creature of the wild Sneaking up behind 1701 01:27:35.350 --> 01:27:44.750 you Hunting in a pen Attacking out of nowhere. 1702 01:28:02.909 --> 01:28:07.090 Our out on the town feature is Predator Badlands. The 1703 01:28:07.130 --> 01:28:11.060 year is 2025, the director Dan Trachtenberg, and they plot, 1704 01:28:11.229 --> 01:28:15.609 according to IMDB, A young predator outcast from his clan 1705 01:28:15.689 --> 01:28:18.729 finds an unlikely ally on his journey in search of 1706 01:28:18.810 --> 01:28:23.680 the ultimate adversary. Spoiler alert, we're going to ruin the 1707 01:28:23.699 --> 01:28:25.760 hell out of this as much as we've probably done 1708 01:28:25.800 --> 01:28:27.479 with most of the other ones, except the last one. 1709 01:28:27.500 --> 01:28:30.060 I kept the last one pretty minimal because it's all 1710 01:28:30.079 --> 01:28:32.819 so new, but this one we'll probably go ahead and 1711 01:28:32.850 --> 01:28:37.409 lay into it. So, you have been warned. And this 1712 01:28:37.489 --> 01:28:40.869 is also kind of the first time we've shipped sides 1713 01:28:40.970 --> 01:28:46.180 because every time we're we're following a human character of 1714 01:28:46.239 --> 01:28:50.000 some sort some humanoid from wherever that like is our 1715 01:28:50.060 --> 01:28:53.460 protagonist and the bad guy in quotes is the predator 1716 01:28:53.920 --> 01:28:58.479 right so we've never really had a predator main character before. 1717 01:28:58.020 --> 01:29:04.420 Dude that was what, for me, was such a breath 1718 01:29:04.479 --> 01:29:07.630 of fresh air about this movie, was telling it from 1719 01:29:07.649 --> 01:29:11.289 the Predator's point of view, was, like, I think the 1720 01:29:11.710 --> 01:29:16.810 Rosetta Stone that just made this movie so special. And 1721 01:29:17.170 -->

01:29:22.840 with the advances of makeup effects, and I guess maybe 1722 01:29:22.850 --> 01:29:25.340 there was some CG altering to it, I couldn't tell. 1723 01:29:25.600 --> 01:29:28.529 I can't tell you when... what was CG and what was, 1724 01:29:28.989 --> 01:29:30.489 you know, practical in this movie. 1725 01:29:30.529 --> 01:29:32.109 Which that's when you know, it's good. 1726 01:29:32.130 --> 01:29:33.449 Yeah, absolutely. 1727 01:29:33.470 --> 01:29:35.229 Again, it all has a signature look. 1728 01:29:35.289 --> 01:29:37.550 Like I think it definitely had, you know, a lot 1729 01:29:37.630 --> 01:29:42.029 of background stuff that was probably not physically there, but 1730 01:29:42.310 --> 01:29:45.270 it doesn't look bad ever. And I think it all 1731 01:29:45.409 --> 01:29:48.890 matches with what's going on within the story, within the foreground. 1732 01:29:48.970 --> 01:29:51.109 So it's like, I think it all looked good from 1733 01:29:51.149 --> 01:29:52.050 that element too. 1734 01:29:52.609 --> 01:29:56.189 But from just from our main character predators point of view, 1735 01:29:57.079 --> 01:30:02.699 from his, he gets a lot of performance in this movie. 1736 01:30:02.920 --> 01:30:03.279 You know? 1737 01:30:03.579 --> 01:30:09.430 He's actually, it's actually a well-acted lead person who you 1738 01:30:09.529 --> 01:30:13.489 want to hang around for 90 minutes and see what they, 1739 01:30:13.970 --> 01:30:17.489 how they get out of this mess. It was something 1740 01:30:17.510 --> 01:30:20.859 that was so missing in most of these Predator movies 1741 01:30:20.920 --> 01:30:24.539 that I was watching. After part one, this was like, 1742 01:30:24.840 --> 01:30:28.920 I was like, going into Badlands, and I was like, what, 1743 01:30:29.319 --> 01:30:31.359 two minutes late. So I came in, you have to 1744 01:30:31.399 --> 01:30:33.699 tell me what I missed. They were talking about what 1745 01:30:33.920 --> 01:30:37.020 alien they're going to catch. He was talking to his brother, like, 1746 01:30:37.039 --> 01:30:39.270 do you want this one or this one? So I 1747 01:30:39.279 --> 01:30:40.189 probably didn't miss much. 1748 01:30:40.270 --> 01:30:44.130 Pretty much where it starts. If Dad hadn't showed up, 1749 01:30:44.189 --> 01:30:44.789 it's pretty early. 1750 01:30:45.170 --> 01:30:49.630 Okay, Dad hadn't showed up yet. So, telling it from 1751 01:30:49.810 --> 01:30:54.729 the Predators society point of view, learning about the Predators 1752 01:30:54.810 --> 01:30:58.609 culture learning about what a dick a dad the predator 1753 01:30:58.630 --> 01:30:59.640 dads are. 1754 01:31:03.159 --> 01:31:06.460 That's what i'd heard again just because we're already going 1755 01:31:06.500 --> 01:31:10.100 into the dad thing so i'd heard it described beforehand 1756 01:31:10.140 --> 01:31:11.800 because i wanted to see it just when i saw 1757 01:31:11.840 --> 01:31:15.220 the trailer and knowing that they're bringing in a really 1758 01:31:15.359 --> 01:31:17.760 cool human character that like again we've had a bunch 1759 01:31:17.800 --> 01:31:21.000 of them like you don't care about but like Ella's 1760 01:31:21.020 --> 01:31:23.180 just so good in this so it's like I saw 1761 01:31:23.220 --> 01:31:24.779 her in the trailer I was like oh this is 1762 01:31:24.850 --> 01:31:27.729 already gonna be a step above what we've had in 1763 01:31:27.890 --> 01:31:30.729 in the olden times again not not the Dan versions 1764 01:31:30.810 --> 01:31:33.409 but anything before that you know you weren't getting that 1765 01:31:33.470 --> 01:31:37.710 level of performances so absolutely but then I also like 1766 01:31:38.010 --> 01:31:40.939 the the week before I heard it described as it's 1767 01:31:40.979 --> 01:31:44.289 a very Star Wars predator movie And I was like, 1768 01:31:44.609 --> 01:31:47.869 all right, let's see where we're going with this. So 1769 01:31:47.970 --> 01:31:52.050 they're not wrong. They fight with laser swords. There's now cute, 1770 01:31:52.109 --> 01:31:54.149 lovable creatures hanging out with them. 1771 01:31:54.170 --> 01:31:54.670 That's true. 1772 01:31:54.789 --> 01:31:57.770 And most importantly in any Star Wars movie, there's a 1773 01:31:57.930 --> 01:32:03.630 terrible father behind it. We have bad fatherhood issues going 1774 01:32:03.789 --> 01:32:07.149 on throughout the movie, which is maybe the most Star 1775 01:32:07.189 --> 01:32:11.149 Wars thing ever. So we also, you know, not to 1776 01:32:11.189 --> 01:32:15.260 jump ahead, but we also get a not-so-subtle carrying your 1777 01:32:15.300 --> 01:32:17.680 broken droid torso on your backpack. 1778 01:32:18.020 --> 01:32:20.439 Oh, jeez. I was like, oh, yeah. 1779 01:32:20.479 --> 01:32:26.310 That's very Empire. Yeah. There's a good amount of Star 1780 01:32:26.350 --> 01:32:29.529 Wars-iness to this, but in a good way. I know 1781 01:32:29.550 --> 01:32:32.989 that would almost be a backhanded compliment for most people now, 1782 01:32:33.029 --> 01:32:36.390 but I'm like, no, like in the Mandalorian way of 1783 01:32:36.750 --> 01:32:39.270 him hanging out with a sidekick, getting into adventures, and 1784 01:32:39.310 --> 01:32:40.680 trying to figure out how to get out of it. 1785 01:32:41.420 --> 01:32:44.100 That's kind of what we're dealing with here. It's like 1786 01:32:45.220 --> 01:32:48.819 he's still being sort of himself, and he's following his ways, 1787 01:32:49.180 --> 01:32:52.420 but he's... got this new character with him that's kind 1788 01:32:52.460 --> 01:32:55.140 of like changing the way he deals with things and 1789 01:32:55.180 --> 01:32:57.159 how do they get out of these crazy adventures and 1790 01:32:57.199 --> 01:33:00.380 like that's pretty much everything going on in badlands. 1791 01:33:00.689 --> 01:33:04.130 It's so it's so funny that you go from the 1792 01:33:04.229 --> 01:33:08.010 machismo of part one to this one where it's like 1793

01:33:08.050 --> 01:33:12.569 basically teaching the predator to be a kinder more sensitive predator. 1794 01:33:13.550 --> 01:33:15.970 That's the other thing. Like I, as we get into 1795 01:33:15.989 --> 01:33:20.180 their culture, like not to cross our universes, but I'm like, 1796 01:33:20.220 --> 01:33:23.560 these are just like hardcore Klingons. Yeah. Cause they have 1797 01:33:23.640 --> 01:33:26.739 a very Klingon as much as we've learned so much 1798 01:33:26.779 --> 01:33:29.659 about the Klingon lifestyle through all the crazy Trek stuff 1799 01:33:29.729 --> 01:33:32.470 that like, their way of looking at things. And it's 1800 01:33:32.510 --> 01:33:35.569 all about battle and honor. And like this, if you 1801 01:33:35.750 --> 01:33:38.670 add the hunt aspect into that, it's just a hundred 1802 01:33:38.710 --> 01:33:42.840 percent like living the Klingon lifestyle, only a little more hardcore. 1803 01:33:42.859 --> 01:33:44.939 But because at this point they just off people, you know, 1804 01:33:44.960 --> 01:33:47.319 like you're the runt of the litter, you need to die. 1805 01:33:47.380 --> 01:33:51.840 Like everything is like taken to the extreme because you know, 1806 01:33:51.880 --> 01:33:54.510 it's so like alien machismo. 1807 01:33:55.399 --> 01:34:00.479 What, what, what this movie is just, If we're just 1808 01:34:00.520 --> 01:34:03.699 going to... There's all this stuff. Use it. There's like... 1809 01:34:04.539 --> 01:34:08.579 There's like... This movie kept earning its. 1810 01:34:10.319 --> 01:34:12.699 Every time I thought it was about to go south, 1811 01:34:12.939 --> 01:34:16.529 it earned its place to keep my attention. Like the 1812 01:34:16.770 --> 01:34:18.510 little cute little monkey thing. 1813 01:34:19.050 --> 01:34:19.989 I have... I hate. 1814 01:34:21.699 --> 01:34:23.100 Cute little CG monkeys. 1815 01:34:23.399 --> 01:34:23.739 All right. 1816 01:34:23.840 --> 01:34:26.060 And it just like, like lost. 1817 01:34:25.840 --> 01:34:27.100 In space is a good movie. 1818 01:34:27.119 --> 01:34:28.979 I don't know what you're talking about. 1819 01:34:29.020 --> 01:34:32.579 The double one, two punch of Jumanji and, uh, and 1820 01:34:32.640 --> 01:34:36.180 lost in space. You just go like, it's just like 1821 01:34:36.739 --> 01:34:40.199 never worked, you know? And, uh, it's just something I've 1822 01:34:40.399 --> 01:34:43.409 always hated. And so when the cute little space monkey 1823 01:34:43.829 --> 01:34:46.789 CG creature shows up, I'm going like, Oh my gosh, 1824 01:34:46.829 --> 01:34:49.529 this movie is about to take a dump. and uh 1825 01:34:49.670 --> 01:34:51.930 but it kept it around it kept it it gave 1826 01:34:51.970 --> 01:34:54.789 him like a reason to be there and you know just. 1827 01:34:54.670 --> 01:34:57.409 Like by the end yeah yeah yeah yeah. 1828 01:34:57.250 --> 01:35:00.770 Absolutely the movie just it you don't care and and 1829 01:35:01.270 --> 01:35:05.720 after you know what feels like eight movies of just 1830 01:35:05.760 --> 01:35:10.560 you know macho posturing you know uh ellie fenning's uh 1831 01:35:10.800 --> 01:35:14.079 character is like just so like happy and interesting and 1832 01:35:14.159 --> 01:35:18.470 curious and scientific and you know, a fun character to 1833 01:35:18.510 --> 01:35:21.989 be around. And, uh, you know, it gave, gave like 1834 01:35:22.029 --> 01:35:26.930 a contrast to, you know, the posturing of the predator character. 1835 01:35:26.989 --> 01:35:30.350 So there was like, you know, yin and yang going on, 1836 01:35:30.390 --> 01:35:32.310 you know, and then they had their happy little dog 1837 01:35:32.369 --> 01:35:36.640 with them. So it was just like, it was like, ah, man, 1838 01:35:36.659 --> 01:35:39.039 this is, this is good. This movie has contrast where 1839 01:35:39.060 --> 01:35:44.430 like the Rodriguez one has no contrast. It's all, you know, and, uh, 1840 01:35:46.720 --> 01:35:50.699 And so there's contrasts. But what I liked about this 1841 01:35:50.760 --> 01:35:57.229 movie most was just the mirroring of the Predator's life 1842 01:35:58.010 --> 01:36:03.189 and the mirroring of the robot's life where both of 1843 01:36:03.229 --> 01:36:11.579 them have these tyrannical parental figures and the movie being about, hey, 1844 01:36:11.659 --> 01:36:15.949 at a certain point you've got to decide what life 1845 01:36:16.029 --> 01:36:18.130 is best for you, you know? 1846 01:36:19.189 --> 01:36:20.380 Who do you want to be? 1847 01:36:20.699 --> 01:36:22.239 Who do you want to be? 1848 01:36:22.500 --> 01:36:26.460 You've been assigned what you're supposed to be up until 1849 01:36:26.520 --> 01:36:29.539 this point, your whole life. That's right. And now you're 1850 01:36:29.579 --> 01:36:32.729 roaming around the Badlands, and you can kind of decide 1851 01:36:32.789 --> 01:36:34.510 what you want to do and who you want to be. 1852 01:36:35.189 --> 01:36:40.829 Absolutely, absolutely. So choosing your own identity, choosing your own adventure, 1853 01:36:41.069 --> 01:36:47.340 and going against the weight... Of the society that you 1854 01:36:47.359 --> 01:36:52.420 were raised in. I thought that was such a good message. 1855 01:36:52.819 --> 01:36:57.859 Like the real thing of becoming... The real, you know, 1856 01:36:58.319 --> 01:37:01.510 trial by fire. The real hunt. The real earning your 1857 01:37:01.609 --> 01:37:05.029 place in society. Is the point where you say like... 1858 01:37:05.130 --> 01:37:10.310 I need to do what's best for the way I'm configured. 1859 01:37:10.689 --> 01:37:13.489 You know? Because I'm not going to be... I'm not 1860 01:37:13.550 --> 01:37:19.090 configured the way... maybe the society that raised me wants 1861 01:37:19.149 --> 01:37:21.609 me to be. So I've got to find how I 1862 01:37:21.649 --> 01:37:26.210 can best contribute to society with what tools I was given, 1863 01:37:26.529 --> 01:37:29.550 not with

what, you know, they want me to be, 1864 01:37:29.729 --> 01:37:32.670 you know? And so I think that's such an important 1865 01:37:33.449 --> 01:37:39.899 thing to tell. It's like a good story to tell. 1866 01:37:39.920 --> 01:37:41.220 That's a good story to tell. 1867 01:37:42.430 --> 01:37:44.810 Wow. Who would think to make a movie out of 1868 01:37:44.829 --> 01:37:47.189 a good story? That is the thing. 1869 01:37:47.439 --> 01:37:51.840 The movie has a reason to be here. That it's 1870 01:37:51.880 --> 01:37:56.699 going to tell this story that has a little bit 1871 01:37:56.739 --> 01:38:00.989 of meat to it. And it's not just predator imagery. 1872 01:38:01.350 --> 01:38:03.270 You know, because this movie could have been so boring 1873 01:38:03.310 --> 01:38:05.859 had it just been like a Chronicles of Riddick type, 1874 01:38:05.899 --> 01:38:09.039 you know, or Riddick, you know, walking through a planet. 1875 01:38:09.060 --> 01:38:11.220 Now he fights a plant. Now he fights a monster. 1876 01:38:11.460 --> 01:38:12.460 All the depth of Riddick. 1877 01:38:12.699 --> 01:38:15.899 Yeah, yeah. It could have just been a travel log. 1878 01:38:15.960 --> 01:38:17.800 All the puddle depth of Riddick. 1879 01:38:18.000 --> 01:38:20.470 Yeah, yeah, yeah. It could have just been like, you know, 1880 01:38:20.520 --> 01:38:24.510 a safari kind of like, oh, this happens and this happens. 1881 01:38:24.550 --> 01:38:28.550 But this really had the feeling of like it was 1882 01:38:28.649 --> 01:38:29.569 going somewhere. 1883 01:38:29.590 --> 01:38:29.670 Yeah. 1884 01:38:31.119 --> 01:38:33.300 I think even more than that, there is definitely a 1885 01:38:34.060 --> 01:38:37.159 finding your own way, finding who you are. But I 1886 01:38:37.199 --> 01:38:41.310 think equally as much like it like. Thea makes the 1887 01:38:41.850 --> 01:38:44.069 mission statement of the movie at one point, and, like, 1888 01:38:44.109 --> 01:38:47.170 it really hit, like, me being in the weird mental 1889 01:38:47.229 --> 01:38:49.829 state that I am in my life, in life as 1890 01:38:49.890 --> 01:38:53.449 a whole. But I'm like, she specifically, you know, Dex 1891 01:38:53.470 --> 01:38:55.510 says to her, like, you need to learn to survive 1892 01:38:55.569 --> 01:38:57.489 on your own. And she says, I can't survive on 1893 01:38:57.529 --> 01:39:00.220 my own. But who would want to survive on their own? 1894 01:39:00.229 --> 01:39:00.989 Right, right, right. 1895 01:39:01.029 --> 01:39:03.520 And, like, she says that out loud, and it just... 1896 01:39:03.979 --> 01:39:06.199 It hits at that point. You're like, you're watching him 1897 01:39:06.239 --> 01:39:09.199 do nothing, but try to be Mr. Badass solo action. 1898 01:39:09.680 --> 01:39:12.520 And like the whole point of this is more of like, no, you, 1899 01:39:12.779 --> 01:39:15.300 you build a community. Like you find who it is 1900 01:39:15.319 --> 01:39:18.380 you want to be with. You create your own family. 1901 01:39:18.659 --> 01:39:22.060 If your family sucks, which yours, your dad certainly did. 1902 01:39:22.119 --> 01:39:26.079 Your brother seemed cool. That didn't last long. So, you know, you, 1903 01:39:26.159 --> 01:39:29.479 you are outcast from this family and your clan and 1904 01:39:29.560 --> 01:39:32.479 everybody that was supposed to be your community, uh, You 1905 01:39:32.500 --> 01:39:34.500 can go out in the world and find your own family, 1906 01:39:34.760 --> 01:39:37.779 create your own community. And like, you don't have to 1907 01:39:37.819 --> 01:39:40.750 be solo, Mr. Badass doing, you know, again, it's so 1908 01:39:40.789 --> 01:39:45.010 going against the macho machismo bullshit. Like she's like, no, 1909 01:39:45.069 --> 01:39:49.250 like create your own family. You are leader of your 1910 01:39:49.329 --> 01:39:51.689 own pack. If you bother to go find your pack. 1911 01:39:52.109 --> 01:39:54.590 And like, there's so much of that that comes into 1912 01:39:54.630 --> 01:39:58.489 play later that I'm just like, wow. Once again, like this, 1913 01:39:58.930 --> 01:40:01.470 has something to say, it has something to build your 1914 01:40:01.510 --> 01:40:05.409 characters around, which is so unusual for a movie, let 1915 01:40:05.449 --> 01:40:08.289 alone a movie that's a big crazy action movie that's 1916 01:40:08.329 --> 01:40:10.810 also a lot of fun. So the fact that it 1917 01:40:10.850 --> 01:40:13.739 does all of these things at the same time is 1918 01:40:13.819 --> 01:40:14.840 kind of amazing. 1919 01:40:15.899 --> 01:40:22.340 What's so funny is this movie is saying that the 1920 01:40:22.500 --> 01:40:28.600 Predator's greatest adversary is is toxic masculinity. Exactly. 1921 01:40:29.699 --> 01:40:33.279 Coming from where the first movie brought us. And everything 1922 01:40:33.319 --> 01:40:34.319 that's come in between. 1923 01:40:34.960 --> 01:40:38.300 Now it's finally like, ah, God, no wonder you guys 1924 01:40:38.340 --> 01:40:40.520 are going nowhere with this franchise. 1925 01:40:40.680 --> 01:40:44.479 Take a chill pill. learn this because it's okay to 1926 01:40:44.500 --> 01:40:48.020 like have a dog and you know friends and you 1927 01:40:48.060 --> 01:40:49.970 don't have to be that's what was so good it 1928 01:40:50.029 --> 01:40:54.189 was such an anecdote from all the chest thumping of 1929 01:40:54.390 --> 01:41:02.010 the last 20 movies they're saying like look civilization did 1930 01:41:02.569 --> 01:41:07.260 not you know advance because of the lone wolf or 1931 01:41:07.500 --> 01:41:09.970 you know When they even talk about wolves, like Alpha, 1932 01:41:09.979 --> 01:41:12.109 I mean, it was just so, it was so, it's 1933 01:41:12.229 --> 01:41:19.510 about cooperation and building a society and interconnected, you know, 1934 01:41:19.770 --> 01:41:27.060 interconnective relationships, interpersonal relationships that connect and make a society strong, 1935

01:41:27.100 --> 01:41:27.340 you know. 1936 01:41:28.310 --> 01:41:30.970 It gives you a reason to be what you are 1937 01:41:31.010 --> 01:41:31.760 and who you are. 1938 01:41:31.840 --> 01:41:34.680 Otherwise, if you're just off by yourself, who knows. 1939 01:41:34.380 --> 01:41:36.359 What you are? Who cares what you are? You're just 1940 01:41:36.399 --> 01:41:37.859 some idiot roaming the wasteland. 1941 01:41:38.180 --> 01:41:39.119 That's right. 1942 01:41:39.380 --> 01:41:42.600 If you have other people there to build your life around, 1943 01:41:42.619 --> 01:41:45.739 then it's worth having a life. Sure, sure. 1944 01:41:46.159 --> 01:41:47.069 Yeah, so it's deep. 1945 01:41:47.229 --> 01:41:50.989 It's deep. It gets into some pretty interesting places. And 1946 01:41:51.029 --> 01:41:56.710 I just liked even the evil character. Who's the evil robot? 1947 01:41:57.300 --> 01:41:58.380 Not the monster? 1948 01:41:58.760 --> 01:42:00.640 Yeah, not the monster, the evil robot. 1949 01:42:00.659 --> 01:42:02.920 I thought that was just, oh, I was going with dad. 1950 01:42:02.939 --> 01:42:04.180 It was like dad sucks. 1951 01:42:04.579 --> 01:42:08.340 But no, the other version of her is Tessa. 1952 01:42:08.500 --> 01:42:11.810 Tessa, right. So Tessa was a really cool, you know, 1953 01:42:11.869 --> 01:42:14.550 just like going like, oh, I've got the thing of 1954 01:42:14.609 --> 01:42:18.210 like a robot, you know. I like this whole thing 1955 01:42:18.229 --> 01:42:21.090 because with AI coming up and everything, you know, it's 1956 01:42:21.109 --> 01:42:26.189 just like these robots. these stories of artificial intelligent robots, 1957 01:42:27.199 --> 01:42:31.170 I enjoy them a lot, you know, and with, like, 1958 01:42:31.189 --> 01:42:36.970 her being given a task by, well, I mean, it 1959 01:42:36.989 --> 01:42:38.810 just feels like, you know, kind of like your job, 1960 01:42:38.850 --> 01:42:41.470 you know, it's like you're given a task by this, 1961 01:42:41.909 --> 01:42:49.890 you know, bottom line driven force, you know, and you're. 1962 01:42:48.420 --> 01:42:49.060 So, you're. 1963 01:42:50.500 --> 01:42:53.439 Your purpose is to appease this thing. 1964 01:42:53.920 --> 01:42:54.239 You know? 1965 01:42:54.260 --> 01:42:58.039 And so it's just like, it's really interesting. It's like in, 1966 01:42:58.119 --> 01:43:01.840 because mother is a direct, you know, an AI creature, 1967 01:43:02.319 --> 01:43:07.359 you know, blow, you know, dictating and being tyrannical over 1968 01:43:07.439 --> 01:43:12.340 another AI artificial creature. And, and the, but you see 1969 01:43:12.399 --> 01:43:16.970 Tessa's like stress and, and what she has to become 1970 01:43:17.069 --> 01:43:22.220 to appease this thing. It's like, what the society makes 1971 01:43:22.279 --> 01:43:27.659 you become to fit in and to appease its whims, 1972 01:43:27.720 --> 01:43:31.800 you know? So, kid predator or teenage predator has to 1973 01:43:32.159 --> 01:43:39.060 mold himself and change himself to appease the authority. And 1974 01:43:39.310 --> 01:43:42.350 this even, you know, and Tess has to do the 1975 01:43:42.390 --> 01:43:45.979 same thing, you know? And so they're both kind of 1976 01:43:46.020 --> 01:43:48.880 the same they're they're two sides of the same coin 1977 01:43:48.979 --> 01:43:53.600 which is a really interesting way uh you know it's 1978 01:43:53.819 --> 01:43:58.189 it's got more going on than what a predator movie 1979 01:43:59.050 --> 01:44:00.250 you would think would. 1980 01:44:00.090 --> 01:44:06.390 Have certainly before dan got involved well especially because she's 1981 01:44:06.550 --> 01:44:09.550 she's opposite of him but then you have thea as 1982 01:44:09.590 --> 01:44:12.529 like this yeah part of the triangle here that's like 1983 01:44:13.489 --> 01:44:16.390 So different. And, like, so different from even what she 1984 01:44:16.470 --> 01:44:19.289 realizes is her sister. And, like, she, like, sort of 1985 01:44:19.449 --> 01:44:21.920 lovingly refers to her as her sister. And, like, that, 1986 01:44:22.000 --> 01:44:24.479 I think, became the more interesting thing to me after 1987 01:44:25.180 --> 01:44:27.260 the movie was over. Like, I'm going on with my day, 1988 01:44:27.279 --> 01:44:29.829 and I'm still thinking about it. I'm like, okay, so 1989 01:44:29.869 --> 01:44:34.140 we have, you know, your Tessa, who's like... almost going 1990 01:44:34.180 --> 01:44:36.520 back to old school Hal of like, hey, look, I'm 1991 01:44:36.550 --> 01:44:39.229 just doing what I need to do to keep this 1992 01:44:39.310 --> 01:44:41.850 job going. I've got my mission I've been stated. I 1993 01:44:42.270 --> 01:44:44.670 have to protect myself and my own interests, but I 1994 01:44:44.689 --> 01:44:47.229 don't care about anybody else. I'm doing the job that 1995 01:44:47.279 --> 01:44:50.279 was given to me. So it's like it's very like 1996 01:44:50.380 --> 01:44:53.699 following my orders, even if it means taking out humans, 1997 01:44:53.800 --> 01:44:57.520 taking out whoever's in my way. I have to follow 1998 01:44:57.560 --> 01:44:58.010 my mission. 1999 01:44:58.680 --> 01:44:59.920 And then you get to Thea. 2000 01:45:00.000 --> 01:45:04.020 Who is 100% different. And so that was, I was like, 2001 01:45:04.100 --> 01:45:06.920 what is it that makes her, like what piece of 2002 01:45:06.979 --> 01:45:10.640 humanity is locked in her that's different from all the 2003 01:45:10.699 --> 01:45:13.699 other synthetic creatures in this universe? It's like, why does 2004 01:45:13.739 --> 01:45:17.939 she have so much humanity? And so much like curiosity 2005 01:45:18.000 --> 01:45:21.699 and like, and wanting to connect with other creatures that 2006 01:45:21.760 --> 01:45:25.100 like we don't get from the other synths. Like Bishop 2007 01:45:25.189 --> 01:45:27.090 is our best thing in this, you know, cause it 2008 01:45:27.159 -->

01:45:30.020 is a shared universe now. So it's like, he's kind 2009 01:45:30.060 --> 01:45:32.789 of the closest we had to like a synth that 2010 01:45:33.470 --> 01:45:36.170 was never like taking care of his own interests. He 2011 01:45:36.210 --> 01:45:39.810 was more concerned about serving humans and keeping them safe. 2012 01:45:39.869 --> 01:45:44.350 And like, so it's interesting because every other example we've 2013 01:45:44.409 --> 01:45:47.970 seen has been The opposite. You know, you've got your 2014 01:45:48.029 --> 01:45:51.130 Ian Holm and you've got Alexis David or whoever from 2015 01:45:51.149 --> 01:45:54.970 The Last Aliens. And like, they're always like going out 2016 01:45:55.010 --> 01:45:58.449 of their way to screw over humanity because that's what 2017 01:45:58.510 --> 01:46:01.229 they do. Like that is what's built into their programming 2018 01:46:01.270 --> 01:46:04.750 and their following mother or some human in charge of 2019 01:46:04.770 --> 01:46:08.100 the program. And everybody is just like, you know. the 2020 01:46:08.319 --> 01:46:11.500 least important people are, you know, expendable. So don't worry 2021 01:46:11.539 --> 01:46:14.659 about them. And like, what is it about Thea that's different? 2022 01:46:14.760 --> 01:46:18.119 What is it about her programming essentially that makes her 2023 01:46:18.640 --> 01:46:22.520 so different from every other synth that we've seen? Right, right. 2024 01:46:22.600 --> 01:46:24.560 Well, you know, I guess they said like, why did 2025 01:46:24.600 --> 01:46:27.739 they give us emotion so we can connect or understand 2026 01:46:27.800 --> 01:46:30.239 the creatures of the planet? So maybe she just had 2027 01:46:30.300 --> 01:46:32.159 a different, you. 2028 01:46:32.159 --> 01:46:33.020 Know, extra chip. 2029 01:46:33.590 --> 01:46:34.270 Got an extra chip. 2030 01:46:34.310 --> 01:46:35.489 Doubled up on emotions. 2031 01:46:35.869 --> 01:46:39.350 Yeah, yeah. They maybe, like, you know, because all the, 2032 01:46:40.649 --> 01:46:43.850 you know, soldier ones, you know, the security detail, you know, 2033 01:46:44.149 --> 01:46:46.710 they're all completely identical and, you know. 2034 01:46:46.939 --> 01:46:47.520 And lame. 2035 01:46:47.529 --> 01:46:50.640 And lame, yeah, yeah, yeah. All got the same haircut, 2036 01:46:50.939 --> 01:46:53.460 you know. And so they all have the same chip, 2037 01:46:53.579 --> 01:46:57.300 you know. And so maybe different AI, different robots have 2038 01:46:57.319 --> 01:47:01.739 different purposes, so therefore they have different, you know, configurations, 2039 01:47:01.779 --> 01:47:02.020 you know. 2040 01:47:02.979 --> 01:47:07.039 Or if it's actually, like, real AI, like, it's supposed 2041 01:47:07.079 --> 01:47:10.460 to be learning as it goes. So maybe... But again, 2042 01:47:10.500 --> 01:47:13.000 it's like she started off the same as Tessa. So 2043 01:47:13.060 --> 01:47:16.119 Tessa just went down this cut-and-dry version of what she's 2044 01:47:16.140 --> 01:47:20.460 supposed to be doing for the company. Yeah. And then, like, Ella, 2045 01:47:20.500 --> 01:47:23.960 you know, takes Thea off in this other direction. And, like, she, 2046 01:47:24.039 --> 01:47:28.390 I guess, has... like adventures on her own. Like it's weird. 2047 01:47:28.430 --> 01:47:31.550 We don't know how much time she's been around or 2048 01:47:31.630 --> 01:47:36.359 how much she's been separate from Tessa enough to create this. Like, 2049 01:47:36.539 --> 01:47:38.880 was it just this one adventure or had they been 2050 01:47:38.960 --> 01:47:41.619 on other things? Like she'd been on the planet long 2051 01:47:41.659 --> 01:47:44.060 enough to know other predators have been there and learn 2052 01:47:44.100 --> 01:47:47.430 the language. And she, she knew a lot about the planet. 2053 01:47:47.489 --> 01:47:50.130 So she'd at least been around that planet a while, 2054 01:47:50.229 --> 01:47:53.170 but we don't really know what the story was before that. 2055 01:47:53.229 --> 01:47:56.149 So it is weird. interesting that, like, she, somewhere along 2056 01:47:56.170 --> 01:48:01.109 the way, started, like, developing as an AI creature, and, like, started, like, 2057 01:48:01.189 --> 01:48:04.039 expanding what it was, not only that she knew, but 2058 01:48:04.619 --> 01:48:07.659 the fact that they had emotions, she started expanding that 2059 01:48:07.739 --> 01:48:11.760 as well, which Tessa obviously didn't do, but, like, she's 2060 01:48:11.819 --> 01:48:15.510 attaching herself to these biological creatures, because she knows so 2061 01:48:15.550 --> 01:48:19.010 much about biology, but then you add in the emotion 2062 01:48:19.069 --> 01:48:21.210 part of it, and, like, she starts to care about 2063 01:48:21.270 --> 01:48:24.350 these creatures which again is it normally how it goes 2064 01:48:24.409 --> 01:48:25.350 with synths. 2065 01:48:25.810 --> 01:48:29.100 So that's sort of like maybe also just works into 2066 01:48:29.140 --> 01:48:34.199 the theme of the movie of like you know Tessa 2067 01:48:34.239 --> 01:48:41.220 got the good one got separated out from the control 2068 01:48:41.380 --> 01:48:44.800 thea got separated out from the the control of the 2069 01:48:44.880 --> 01:48:49.920 authority you know and then had the space to start 2070 01:48:49.979 --> 01:48:52.359 making her own connections you know. 2071 01:48:52.199 --> 01:48:54.460 Making her own decision of who do i want to 2072 01:48:54.500 --> 01:48:57.739 be like back to our theme of yeah who do 2073 01:48:57.819 --> 01:48:59.319 i want to be do i want to be what 2074 01:48:59.359 --> 01:49:02.119 the corporation tells me to be and to follow orders 2075 01:49:02.319 --> 01:49:05.239 or do i want to branch out and meet new 2076 01:49:05.300 --> 01:49:08.270 characters and be part of this community and like do 2077 01:49:08.430 --> 01:49:11.770 other things and like again that sort of

goes against 2078 01:49:11.890 --> 01:49:15.329 the robotic thing that is presented as what they should 2079 01:49:15.369 --> 01:49:17.770 be but like screw that like that's the whole point 2080 01:49:17.789 --> 01:49:19.729 of this movie is like yeah I don't have to 2081 01:49:19.770 --> 01:49:21.390 do that I don't have to be that I can 2082 01:49:21.449 --> 01:49:25.500 do whatever I choose to that's my point like so 2083 01:49:25.699 --> 01:49:28.000 the fact that they're all kind of going through a 2084 01:49:28.039 --> 01:49:29.859 version of this is pretty cool. 2085 01:49:30.079 --> 01:49:32.800 Yeah yeah but you don't have that voice telling you 2086 01:49:32.819 --> 01:49:36.380 that telling you what you are all the time and 2087 01:49:36.420 --> 01:49:38.939 you you she was like been able to be stuck 2088 01:49:38.979 --> 01:49:41.729 in a vulture's nest for two weeks you know she 2089 01:49:41.770 --> 01:49:43.949 was you know it probably started a long time before 2090 01:49:43.970 --> 01:49:46.029 that but you know two weeks to think and start 2091 01:49:46.069 --> 01:49:48.170 making your own connections and not having that you know 2092 01:49:48.189 --> 01:49:50.970 uh voice in the back of your head telling you 2093 01:49:50.989 --> 01:49:55.949 what you are you know you're able to evolve you 2094 01:49:55.970 --> 01:49:58.970 know and that's what happens with the you know it 2095 01:49:59.010 --> 01:50:02.399 was so nice having character arcs in a Predator movie. So, 2096 01:50:02.420 --> 01:50:06.430 you know, everybody learns a little something about themselves. And so, 2097 01:50:06.439 --> 01:50:08.850 you know, I know that's like lame to have that. 2098 01:50:09.350 --> 01:50:11.010 You want that in a movie. I'm thinking of the 2099 01:50:11.050 --> 01:50:15.390 movie Adapt. adaptation you know you know we're like and 2100 01:50:15.409 --> 01:50:17.069 I don't want to make a movie where they go 2101 01:50:17.090 --> 01:50:20.369 through stuff and they learn stuff about themselves but. 2102 01:50:20.250 --> 01:50:24.590 It was nice to have because I think people feel 2103 01:50:24.630 --> 01:50:26.430 that way I mean I think that people feel like 2104 01:50:26.550 --> 01:50:28.989 oh I went through this stuff and now I feel 2105 01:50:29.109 --> 01:50:32.630 this way about things so I've changed as a human 2106 01:50:32.689 --> 01:50:33.930 you know and. 2107 01:50:35.380 --> 01:50:38.699 So it feels true when you see a movie that 2108 01:50:38.739 --> 01:50:40.880 has that you know well. 2109 01:50:40.720 --> 01:50:43.699 And watching our predator go through that because he's so 2110 01:50:43.880 --> 01:50:45.979 cut and dry and so set in his ways at 2111 01:50:46.000 --> 01:50:48.800 the beginning and she keeps saying this stuff to him 2112 01:50:48.859 --> 01:50:50.800 and usually he sort of shrugs it off for the 2113 01:50:50.840 --> 01:50:53.520 first half and then like midway in you get that 2114 01:50:53.590 --> 01:50:57.310 change of like him watching these changes take place in 2115 01:50:57.350 --> 01:51:00.289 front of him he's like oh i actually care about 2116 01:51:00.529 --> 01:51:05.569 this not it's like he's realizing in in real time 2117 01:51:05.609 --> 01:51:08.640 he's like whoa wait I'm supposed to be doing this, 2118 01:51:08.800 --> 01:51:11.779 but I actually care about this over here. And like, 2119 01:51:11.800 --> 01:51:15.100 I'm going to make this decision and decide to do, 2120 01:51:15.149 --> 01:51:17.649 you know, decide to go my own way and, and 2121 01:51:17.710 --> 01:51:19.609 still get to where I need to go. By the 2122 01:51:19.649 --> 01:51:22.069 time we get to the end, like he is the 2123 01:51:22.130 --> 01:51:24.550 hunter he needs to be. He is the leader that 2124 01:51:24.590 --> 01:51:27.489 he needs to be and proves it to his dad 2125 01:51:27.529 --> 01:51:30.020 and like proves that like my way still got me 2126 01:51:30.060 --> 01:51:33.159 where I needed to be and And I'm better because 2127 01:51:33.220 --> 01:51:37.380 of it, which again, shouldn't be in a movie like this, really. Yeah, 2128 01:51:37.460 --> 01:51:38.140 I know. 2129 01:51:38.640 --> 01:51:42.369 It's so much, you're getting, you thought you were going 2130 01:51:42.550 --> 01:51:47.149 in and getting, I might get a nice, I might 2131 01:51:47.189 --> 01:51:53.069 get a familiar passable cheeseburger, you know? And then you 2132 01:51:53.130 --> 01:51:56.100 end up getting something, you know, it's maybe still a cheeseburger, 2133 01:51:56.149 --> 01:51:58.460 but it's a damn good cheeseburger. And I go like, 2134 01:51:58.579 --> 01:52:01.149 oh man, I want to come back. And have this 2135 01:52:01.170 --> 01:52:03.770 guy make me another cheeseburger because that was so much 2136 01:52:03.850 --> 01:52:05.609 better than I thought it was going to be. 2137 01:52:07.640 --> 01:52:11.310 Like it never backs off of the entertainment as well 2138 01:52:11.350 --> 01:52:15.189 like you get big giant like there's when he gets 2139 01:52:15.229 --> 01:52:17.909 to the planet there's an extended period there where I'm 2140 01:52:17.930 --> 01:52:19.930 like this is just crazy action like one thing to 2141 01:52:19.949 --> 01:52:21.750 the next to the next and he's fighting the tree 2142 01:52:21.789 --> 01:52:24.220 and he's fighting this creature and he's like and then 2143 01:52:24.260 --> 01:52:26.939 it gets into like goriness and like you're watching him 2144 01:52:26.979 --> 01:52:30.979 just slice into the giant monster and behead this creature 2145 01:52:31.020 --> 01:52:33.579 and I'm like it is still delivering. 2146 01:52:33.699 --> 01:52:34.619 Absolutely. 2147 01:52:35.079 --> 01:52:37.970 The 12-year-old is still going, kick ass, did you see that? 2148 01:52:37.989 --> 01:52:41.069 He just chopped that creature's head off. It still works 2149 01:52:41.149 --> 01:52:44.010 on that level, but then it backs it up with 2150 01:52:44.050

--> 01:52:47.470 an actual story and character development. It's crazy. 2151 01:52:47.590 --> 01:52:48.369 It's crazy. 2152 01:52:48.409 --> 01:52:48.770 It's crazy. 2153 01:52:48.800 --> 01:52:52.420 And that just makes the action... feel like something like, yeah, 2154 01:52:52.520 --> 01:52:53.840 you're on the journey with this thing. 2155 01:52:54.060 --> 01:52:54.220 Yeah. 2156 01:52:54.260 --> 01:52:56.939 It felt like, uh, King Kong, you know, it felt like, 2157 01:52:57.000 --> 01:52:59.340 Oh man, he landed on King Kong planet with like, 2158 01:52:59.359 --> 01:53:02.500 you know, just like everything there's out to kill you, 2159 01:53:02.520 --> 01:53:06.159 you know? And, um, and yeah, I really like the 2160 01:53:06.220 --> 01:53:10.590 weird biology of the planet and razor glass and having 2161 01:53:10.649 --> 01:53:13.970 razor grass and, and just the weird, all the weird, 2162 01:53:14.229 --> 01:53:16.670 I love it when the designers can come up with 2163 01:53:16.729 --> 01:53:19.670 like new monsters and new plants and new this, and 2164 01:53:19.710 --> 01:53:23.189 they had the budget to like actually actualize it and 2165 01:53:23.229 --> 01:53:26.399 make it look like a, uh, another planet and not like, 2166 01:53:27.199 --> 01:53:31.739 you know, Rodriguez's backyard. It was like, it looked like, 2167 01:53:32.159 --> 01:53:36.220 it looked like something. Uh, yeah. Well, one thing I, 2168 01:53:36.479 --> 01:53:40.649 my thought was going through the, was like, like, uh, 2169 01:53:41.569 --> 01:53:44.689 I was watching this going like, this is so damn 2170 01:53:44.819 --> 01:53:50.539 entertaining that this might be... And I had this glimmer 2171 01:53:50.600 --> 01:53:57.100 of hope where maybe, because now movies have to compete 2172 01:53:57.270 --> 01:54:01.229 with people staying home and watching everything that has ever 2173 01:54:01.270 --> 01:54:06.350 been made on the streaming services, or... video games or 2174 01:54:06.489 --> 01:54:10.029 social media or this or that there's like there's or 2175 01:54:10.090 --> 01:54:13.489 like there's like so many reasons why not to go 2176 01:54:13.550 --> 01:54:17.430 to a movie you know filmmakers need to realize that 2177 01:54:17.449 --> 01:54:20.770 they gotta up their game if they want people to 2178 01:54:20.829 --> 01:54:23.930 come out all right and they're gonna have to like 2179 01:54:24.069 --> 01:54:26.439 up their game and something like this where it makes 2180 01:54:26.489 --> 01:54:29.260 it worth going to see it in the theater you 2181 01:54:29.319 --> 01:54:31.960 know and uh so it kind of gave me hope 2182 01:54:32.079 --> 01:54:36.210 because going like okay you've got 90 minutes to tell 2183 01:54:36.229 --> 01:54:38.729 a kick-ass story with a beginning, middle, and end. And 2184 01:54:39.210 --> 01:54:42.159 you've got to give them production value. And you've got 2185 01:54:42.180 --> 01:54:43.960 to give them a full experience. And you've got to 2186 01:54:44.000 --> 01:54:46.439 give them the sound. And you've got to give them everything. 2187 01:54:47.119 --> 01:54:52.180 You can't just show like Predator versus Alien and have 2188 01:54:52.220 --> 01:54:54.239 them fight a few times. And that's just not going 2189 01:54:54.260 --> 01:54:56.760 to cut it anymore. Because people aren't going to go 2190 01:54:56.840 --> 01:55:00.359 out just to see that. You've actually got to give 2191 01:55:00.390 --> 01:55:03.029 them the story first. and the acting, and the likable characters, 2192 01:55:03.250 --> 01:55:06.409 and the drama, and the conflict, and the spectacle, and 2193 01:55:06.430 --> 01:55:08.710 the sound, and the this, and the that. You've got 2194 01:55:08.729 --> 01:55:11.210 to give it all. And it's got to be self-contained 2195 01:55:11.270 --> 01:55:13.470 enough where you don't feel like the Marvel thing, where 2196 01:55:13.510 --> 01:55:15.770 if you didn't watch the 20 other movies, you're not 2197 01:55:15.789 --> 01:55:16.829 going to know what's going on. 2198 01:55:19.340 --> 01:55:23.060 Even the three that he's done, they're self-contained enough that 2199 01:55:23.119 --> 01:55:25.479 you can enter into Prey, or you could come into 2200 01:55:25.500 --> 01:55:29.300 this one having not seen anything else. And even the 2201 01:55:29.359 --> 01:55:32.300 last I actually thought when we get to that, because 2202 01:55:32.319 --> 01:55:35.430 there's a portion within the the animated one where there's 2203 01:55:35.489 --> 01:55:37.930 a ship. And like by the end, I thought the 2204 01:55:37.970 --> 01:55:40.149 ship was I was like, oh, is he crossing over? Like, 2205 01:55:40.210 --> 01:55:42.229 are we going to get live action characters and people 2206 01:55:42.289 --> 01:55:45.550 from the animated like that? But I don't think that's 2207 01:55:45.569 --> 01:55:48.470 where he's going. But he also has the freedom to do. Like, 2208 01:55:48.949 --> 01:55:52.079 he's telling a story in this giant universe, and he's 2209 01:55:52.119 --> 01:55:54.960 got several different stories kind of going at once here. 2210 01:55:55.039 --> 01:55:58.510 So if he wants to bring in... But again, he's so... 2211 01:55:59.159 --> 01:56:01.859 He's so conscious of what's going on, I think even 2212 01:56:01.920 --> 01:56:03.970 he knows, like, you don't want to embed it so 2213 01:56:04.010 --> 01:56:06.090 much that you can't just come into this movie and 2214 01:56:06.130 --> 01:56:07.210 enjoy it on its own. 2215 01:56:07.770 --> 01:56:08.649 That's the point. 2216 01:56:08.670 --> 01:56:10.750 But he knows he's dealing with a bigger thing, because 2217 01:56:10.770 --> 01:56:14.689 that's also why he worked in, like, the touches of 2218 01:56:14.810 --> 01:56:18.479 Alien without being Alien vs. Predator. I think he even 2219 01:56:18.489 --> 01:56:20.720 said it was, you know, it was cooler that we 2220 01:56:20.760 --> 01:56:23.359 just take, you know, Weyland-Yutani

and, like, we make them 2221 01:56:23.739 --> 01:56:25.560 the real big bad behind everything. 2222 01:56:25.579 --> 01:56:25.680 Right. 2223 01:56:26.140 --> 01:56:28.460 And we take the synths, but we're not taking, like, 2224 01:56:28.500 --> 01:56:31.279 we didn't work Lance Hendrickson in again. Because how many 2225 01:56:31.319 --> 01:56:33.739 times have we seen him come back into a movie 2226 01:56:34.260 --> 01:56:36.899 in that Alien franchise? Even though he should be long dead, 2227 01:56:37.180 --> 01:56:39.710 he keeps popping up in movies over and over again. 2228 01:56:39.729 --> 01:56:42.710 So it's like we didn't work that in. We gave 2229 01:56:42.770 --> 01:56:45.569 us a whole new version of the synth to deal with. 2230 01:56:46.220 --> 01:56:48.300 And then even so much so is, like, again, the 2231 01:56:48.380 --> 01:56:51.779 inside joke just for geeks, the fact that we get the, like, 2232 01:56:51.960 --> 01:56:55.560 power loader fight at the end, only it's the massively 2233 01:56:55.739 --> 01:57:00.020 bigger giant robotic version of this now versus another big 2234 01:57:00.079 --> 01:57:03.220 monster fight. Like, it's just, we get a little touch 2235 01:57:03.279 --> 01:57:06.779 of the, you know, the alien crossover world, but without... 2236 01:57:07.340 --> 01:57:09.260 But even then, he's like, I don't want it just 2237 01:57:09.300 --> 01:57:11.579 being jamming your toys together. It doesn't need to be 2238 01:57:11.600 --> 01:57:15.010 Alien vs. Predator. Here we go. Which is what we 2239 01:57:15.050 --> 01:57:17.470 tried to do with two movies years ago. And he's like, 2240 01:57:17.489 --> 01:57:19.939 I didn't want that. He's like, I want touches of it. 2241 01:57:20.029 --> 01:57:23.430 I want it to be a larger universe. But you 2242 01:57:23.449 --> 01:57:24.979 don't have to hit people over the head with it. 2243 01:57:25.090 --> 01:57:28.720 It can just be adding this stuff in to kind 2244 01:57:28.760 --> 01:57:30.560 of enrich the whole thing. 2245 01:57:30.659 --> 01:57:33.180 But it's still self-contained enough to be its own movie. 2246 01:57:33.739 --> 01:57:36.329 No, it felt real organic. And it was nice if 2247 01:57:36.350 --> 01:57:39.409 you've seen Aliens to kind of get the reference, you know, 2248 01:57:39.449 --> 01:57:42.510 but it was like, I think if you came in 2249 01:57:42.590 --> 01:57:46.390 as a 13-year-old and saw that, it wouldn't feel like, what? 2250 01:57:46.829 --> 01:57:50.149 Where's that coming from? It would feel very organic to 2251 01:57:50.170 --> 01:57:52.340 the story. And I got to tell you, this is 2252 01:57:52.350 --> 01:57:54.380 probably the first movie in a long time where I 2253 01:57:54.560 --> 01:57:59.079 felt the geeking out enjoyment of it. You know, where, 2254 01:57:59.699 --> 01:58:03.460 not just, that was in the Aliens power loader, I 2255 01:58:03.500 --> 01:58:07.289 was just, like, so invested in the movie by the time, 2256 01:58:07.489 -->

01:58:13.779 you know, Giant Robot versus giant monster and a alien 2257 01:58:13.859 --> 01:58:18.380 planet for some reason i got real you know 13 2258 01:58:18.380 --> 01:58:22.560 you know kid giddiness about what was going on on 2259 01:58:22.649 --> 01:58:27.260 screen where i was i was taken away. And I 2260 01:58:27.300 --> 01:58:30.819 was like, that is just some big, awesome science fiction, uh, 2261 01:58:32.380 --> 01:58:34.239 spectacle that I really enjoyed. 2262 01:58:34.560 --> 01:58:34.779 Yeah. 2263 01:58:35.640 --> 01:58:41.250 Without it like devolving to the silliness of the predator, 2264 01:58:41.569 --> 01:58:42.390 which don't get me wrong. 2265 01:58:42.430 --> 01:58:42.989 It's fun. 2266 01:58:43.489 --> 01:58:46.350 But like that, when you feel like the 12 year old, 2267 01:58:46.390 --> 01:58:49.229 like you don't feel like there's anything else going on 2268 01:58:49.529 --> 01:58:52.039 where this gives you the excitement of that 12 year old, uh, 2269 01:58:52.439 --> 01:58:54.760 But you're also like, you brought your brain with you too. 2270 01:58:54.819 --> 01:58:57.279 And you're like, Oh, but we're telling a bigger story 2271 01:58:57.300 --> 01:59:00.380 and we've got sort of a grand take on things. 2272 01:59:00.439 --> 01:59:02.819 And like, we're looking at like people making decisions about 2273 01:59:02.859 --> 01:59:05.039 their life that like, you're not going to get in 2274 01:59:05.159 --> 01:59:08.100 a silly action movie for 12 year olds. So this like. 2275 01:59:08.500 --> 01:59:11.010 Somehow melds them both into one thing. 2276 01:59:11.050 --> 01:59:15.130 And like, it works both ways. It's, it's impressive that 2277 01:59:15.250 --> 01:59:16.390 this works the way it does. 2278 01:59:16.949 --> 01:59:17.649 Absolutely. 2279 01:59:17.810 --> 01:59:18.270 Absolutely. 2280 01:59:18.649 --> 01:59:21.029 This movie could have been so boring. Yeah. 2281 01:59:21.090 --> 01:59:21.409 Yeah. 2282 01:59:22.149 --> 01:59:26.710 I mean, just, again, from the writing and directing standpoint. Yeah. And, again, 2283 01:59:26.750 --> 01:59:30.430 I think what takes it up several notches is the acting. Like, 2284 01:59:30.829 --> 01:59:33.189 Elle Fanning, like, sold so much of this movie. 2285 01:59:33.210 --> 01:59:33.630 Absolutely. 2286 01:59:33.850 --> 01:59:37.159 And, like, it'd be different. Like, Thea's just so likable 2287 01:59:37.220 --> 01:59:40.199 that you love that. But the fact that she's also 2288 01:59:40.319 --> 01:59:43.800 the villain. Like, she also is Tessa and gets to 2289 01:59:43.840 --> 01:59:47.600 turn up and be, you know, be... the evil badass, 2290 01:59:47.619 --> 01:59:50.079 you know, that's ready to kill everyone. So it's like 2291 01:59:50.140 --> 01:59:52.579 the fact that she does both of those, it's impressive. 2292 01:59:53.279 --> 01:59:57.270 And then not to undercut Demetrius is the guy playing deck. 2293 01:59:57.310 --> 02:00:01.069 And like, he's as much as, you know, he's buried 2294 02:00:01.149 --> 02:00:06.109 behind either physical makeup or CG coverage. I don't know 2295 02:00:06.149 --> 02:00:08.750 how much they are with each of them, but yeah, exactly. 2296 02:00:08.810 --> 02:00:12.250 I don't care because so much of this character comes 2297 02:00:12.350 --> 02:00:15.119 through in a guy that looks like a predator and, 2298 02:00:15.409 --> 02:00:19.279 doesn't speak English, and yet we still are so attached 2299 02:00:19.319 --> 02:00:21.880 to this guy. And we see him going through this 2300 02:00:21.939 --> 02:00:25.220 journey and kind of growing as a creature, as a person, 2301 02:00:25.260 --> 02:00:26.359 but he's not a human. 2302 02:00:26.739 --> 02:00:29.140 So, like, you see him as a character. 2303 02:00:28.739 --> 02:00:34.029 Become better and more enriched as a character to watch. And, like, 2304 02:00:34.069 --> 02:00:37.449 you don't normally get that from somebody, you know, encased 2305 02:00:37.510 --> 02:00:40.829 in makeup or covered in CG green screen action. Absolutely not. 2306 02:00:41.680 --> 02:00:44.600 So the fact that we still are really kind of 2307 02:00:44.659 --> 02:00:49.000 invested in him as much as, as Elle Fanning's performances, 2308 02:00:49.039 --> 02:00:51.600 that like it's, it says a lot about him as 2309 02:00:51.649 --> 02:00:55.329 an actor as well. So both of those two lead performances, 2310 02:00:55.409 --> 02:00:58.329 I think take this up several notches. Absolutely. 2311 02:00:58.409 --> 02:01:04.609 It's, it's all, unfortunately, unfortunately for movies, it comes down 2312 02:01:04.670 --> 02:01:09.369 to story and character. And it's like the oldest thing 2313 02:01:09.390 --> 02:01:13.869 to say. It's like the actors that you have, the 2314 02:01:13.909 --> 02:01:18.789 characters they're portraying, and the story that they're going through 2315 02:01:19.010 --> 02:01:22.569 is like what the freaking movies are about. And so often, 2316 02:01:23.270 --> 02:01:29.039 you know, it's just about, you know, pre-frozen elements that 2317 02:01:29.060 --> 02:01:33.340 they think they can show and that's the movie but 2318 02:01:33.439 --> 02:01:36.680 they they they forget the most important part you know 2319 02:01:36.920 --> 02:01:40.899 they can do like great predator armor and great props 2320 02:01:40.979 --> 02:01:43.649 and great this and great that but if the story 2321 02:01:43.699 --> 02:01:47.449 isn't compelling all that is just so empty and it's 2322 02:01:47.489 --> 02:01:49.989 just kind of like staring into a lamp after a 2323 02:01:50.050 --> 02:01:51.810 minute you know yeah. 2324 02:01:52.090 --> 02:01:53.289 I mean, that's the thing. 2325 02:01:53.409 --> 02:01:59.369 I've watched a lot of sci-fi stuff and crazy action movies, 2326 02:01:59.430 --> 02:02:02.810 and there's so many now that I'm just like, eh, 2327 02:02:02.890 --> 02:02:03.729 it was fine. 2328 02:02:03.770 --> 02:02:06.390 I'll watch it, and even if the

action part of 2329 02:02:06.489 --> 02:02:10.420 it works, it's still hollow, and there's not much to it. 2330 02:02:10.770 --> 02:02:14.619 Where this one, I felt so happy by the time 2331 02:02:14.659 --> 02:02:17.699 we got to the end. I was so enriched by 2332 02:02:17.779 --> 02:02:21.350 these three characters by the end there. Right. And I 2333 02:02:21.409 --> 02:02:23.989 kind of like, not to, it is interesting that the 2334 02:02:24.050 --> 02:02:27.050 cute character worked. Like, the cute thing at the beginning, 2335 02:02:27.069 --> 02:02:29.050 because you don't get that in Predator movies. We don't 2336 02:02:29.090 --> 02:02:32.569 have a, again, that's a very modern era Star Wars, 2337 02:02:32.949 --> 02:02:36.510 definitely Mandalorian, of like, here's my cute sidekick, and like, 2338 02:02:36.630 --> 02:02:38.770 every time you cut to him, you're like, aw, look 2339 02:02:38.810 --> 02:02:39.729 how cute he is. 2340 02:02:40.189 --> 02:02:41.989 And like, it seems like that wouldn't work in a 2341 02:02:42.010 --> 02:02:42.630 Predator movie. 2342 02:02:42.989 --> 02:02:47.949 But we introduced Bud, and like, he's still so damn likable. Right. 2343 02:02:48.210 --> 02:02:52.029 And is like, so like, attached to our main character 2344 02:02:52.069 --> 02:02:54.569 that starts mimicking him and you're like all right you 2345 02:02:54.609 --> 02:02:56.640 have to like this guy look at him and like 2346 02:02:56.680 --> 02:02:59.859 yeah her actually so you you know you you like 2347 02:03:00.079 --> 02:03:02.579 the character and then as it goes on and you 2348 02:03:02.619 --> 02:03:07.140 see what she becomes like that is important as well 2349 02:03:07.710 --> 02:03:10.720 But even my other favorite thing is once he, like, 2350 02:03:10.810 --> 02:03:15.619 loses most of his high-powered fancy weaponry, and by the 2351 02:03:15.899 --> 02:03:19.140 end battle has to resort to, like, the natural elements. 2352 02:03:19.600 --> 02:03:22.550 So he starts using, like, the killer tree to, like, 2353 02:03:22.590 --> 02:03:25.829 attack them. And then the thing that whatever the creature 2354 02:03:25.949 --> 02:03:28.449 is that he wears on his shoulder that starts spitting 2355 02:03:28.590 --> 02:03:33.520 acid at everybody... is also adorable. And, like, somehow, this 2356 02:03:33.579 --> 02:03:38.180 little slug-looking thing that spits acid is adorable, and you're 2357 02:03:38.220 --> 02:03:41.119 really upset when it's not part of the team anymore. 2358 02:03:41.140 --> 02:03:41.760 Right. 2359 02:03:41.819 --> 02:03:44.279 Yeah, when it's, like, all burnt, like a piece of chicken, 2360 02:03:44.300 --> 02:03:45.220 and you go like, aw. 2361 02:03:45.300 --> 02:03:46.239 It's so sad. 2362 02:03:46.279 --> 02:03:48.630 I was like, because it sacrifices itself to. 2363 02:03:48.550 --> 02:03:53.029 Save our lead. And, like, That's amazing. Like, in a 2364 02:03:53.090 --> 02:03:56.869 few minutes of him being introduced in,

and, again, it's. 2365 02:03:56.770 --> 02:03:57.989 A slug that spits acid. 2366 02:03:58.270 --> 02:04:02.010 Yeah. But somehow I was like, oh, man. Like, it 2367 02:04:02.029 --> 02:04:05.430 was the fact that it sacrificed itself to save our character. 2368 02:04:05.890 --> 02:04:06.109 Right. 2369 02:04:06.170 --> 02:04:08.619 It was important. Yeah. It, like, shouldn't have been in 2370 02:04:08.659 --> 02:04:11.680 this type of movie. Absolutely. Yet it was. Yeah. 2371 02:04:11.739 --> 02:04:15.020 I mean, like, the, yeah, it's like Beastmaster, right? 2372 02:04:16.659 --> 02:04:18.399 Ah, Poto. Yeah. 2373 02:04:19.920 --> 02:04:23.600 No, it's great. I love the fact that he gets 2374 02:04:24.810 --> 02:04:29.470 biological equivalents of the old Predator stuff. 2375 02:04:29.590 --> 02:04:32.289 That's so cool. And again, so different. 2376 02:04:32.649 --> 02:04:35.449 All we've had is them so reliant on technology. 2377 02:04:35.569 --> 02:04:36.130 Absolutely. 2378 02:04:36.229 --> 02:04:39.250 I'm just recycling the same thing over and over again. 2379 02:04:39.270 --> 02:04:42.840 Which is an interesting little tidbit, because I've heard people 2380 02:04:42.880 --> 02:04:46.760 mention that before, that it... This whole story, this whole 2381 02:04:46.779 --> 02:04:50.020 adventure shouldn't work because he wants to be Mr. Solo dude. 2382 02:04:50.699 --> 02:04:54.239 But Thea is smart enough that she knows their ways 2383 02:04:54.300 --> 02:04:57.739 and is like, oh, I'm a tool. So it's okay. 2384 02:04:57.779 --> 02:05:01.489 You love your gadgets. You love your tools. So you 2385 02:05:01.529 --> 02:05:05.250 can use me. Even though she's kind of using him. 2386 02:05:05.289 --> 02:05:08.369 But she knows how to kind of work his tools. 2387 02:05:08.880 --> 02:05:11.600 his old timey ways and his like traditions and the 2388 02:05:11.640 --> 02:05:15.060 way that they think as their species and like their society. 2389 02:05:15.720 --> 02:05:18.220 So that was a cool little touch that like, this 2390 02:05:18.279 --> 02:05:20.199 shouldn't have worked. He should have just thrown her aside 2391 02:05:20.220 --> 02:05:22.039 and be like, Nope, I'm on my own. That's how 2392 02:05:22.359 --> 02:05:26.840 real warrior does things. And like, but she like played 2393 02:05:26.880 --> 02:05:29.380 him enough to be like, no, I'm just a tool. 2394 02:05:29.460 --> 02:05:31.800 It's okay. I'm a piece of machinery for you. 2395 02:05:32.079 --> 02:05:32.359 Right. 2396 02:05:32.500 --> 02:05:34.680 Right. So the fact that then later he'd like strips 2397 02:05:34.720 --> 02:05:37.779 all the machinery and like is fighting with sticks and, 2398 02:05:38.609 --> 02:05:41.869 creatures he just is back to like the natural. 2399 02:05:41.550 --> 02:05:44.939 World yeah yeah i think the movie is like kind 2400 02:05:44.960 --> 02:05:47.720 of it goes into the theme of cooperation you know 2401 02:05:47.739 --> 02:05:52.420 of like uh of like using you know of developing 2402 02:05:52.479 --> 02:05:53.880 a community and working together with a. 2403 02:05:53.859 --> 02:05:57.979 Community to to fight you know to to achieve a 2404 02:05:58.020 --> 02:06:01.390 better goal you know to do something noble you know 2405 02:06:02.130 --> 02:06:07.260 um yeah uh uh It was cool. 2406 02:06:08.920 --> 02:06:12.560 It's awesome. And the more I've thought about it, at 2407 02:06:12.619 --> 02:06:14.100 the time I left and I was like, that was 2408 02:06:14.140 --> 02:06:16.180 cool and I really liked these characters and I was 2409 02:06:16.220 --> 02:06:18.279 just kind of happy to see it come together in 2410 02:06:19.439 --> 02:06:24.270 sort of a non-traditionally happy ending that I didn't expect. 2411 02:06:24.930 --> 02:06:29.390 But again, when the trio comes back together, trio pun intended, 2412 02:06:29.409 --> 02:06:29.909 I suppose. Uh-huh. 2413 02:06:30.229 --> 02:06:31.829 Comes back together at the end there. 2414 02:06:31.869 --> 02:06:34.729 And, like, we take out our original bad guy. And, like, 2415 02:06:34.909 --> 02:06:37.390 we see him, like, just hanging out together. And, like, 2416 02:06:37.430 --> 02:06:41.489 they're this new badass team. And I'm like, I love that. And, like, 2417 02:06:41.649 --> 02:06:44.149 now I just want to follow these three around on 2418 02:06:44.649 --> 02:06:48.159 adventures for every other movie that is made ever again. 2419 02:06:48.199 --> 02:06:50.039 I just want to hang out with these three and 2420 02:06:50.060 --> 02:06:53.279 see what they get into next. And luckily we kind 2421 02:06:53.340 --> 02:06:56.220 of get to do that, I'm assuming. Because we definitely 2422 02:06:56.260 --> 02:06:56.699 left it. 2423 02:06:57.279 --> 02:06:58.119 Yeah. 2424 02:06:58.279 --> 02:07:01.159 And answered a question as I was going through before 2425 02:07:01.199 --> 02:07:03.340 I got to this movie, and I'm re-watching the other 2426 02:07:03.380 --> 02:07:07.510 Predator movies, and I'm like... question I asked myself the 2427 02:07:07.550 --> 02:07:10.869 day before was, we've never seen a female predator, have we? 2428 02:07:12.869 --> 02:07:15.779 We've seen so many predators and so many variations of 2429 02:07:16.020 --> 02:07:19.960 monsters created for or by or that hang out with them. 2430 02:07:20.239 --> 02:07:23.020 We've seen all these other creatures, but as far as 2431 02:07:23.060 --> 02:07:26.649 we know, every predator we've seen has been male and 2432 02:07:26.710 --> 02:07:31.350 very masculine so i'm like what the hell is the 2433 02:07:31.430 --> 02:07:34.569 mom like so we get a fact that yes there 2434 02:07:34.729 --> 02:07:38.029 is a female predator out there and now we're going 2435 02:07:38.060 --> 02:07:40.579 to be introduced to one so it would seem so 2436 02:07:40.600 --> 02:07:42.659 the fact that we've got that tease at the end 2437 02:07:42.680 --> 02:07:45.180 there is like oh i just asked that question

what 2438 02:07:45.199 --> 02:07:47.920 the hell are the female predators like if these are 2439 02:07:47.939 --> 02:07:50.720 the guys like what what's the other end of this 2440 02:07:50.720 --> 02:07:53.840 deal right so i guess we're assuming this is done 2441 02:07:53.840 --> 02:07:58.090 relatively well financially I'm guessing we're going to get that 2442 02:07:58.090 --> 02:08:00.149 uh question answered in the next movie. 2443 02:08:00.149 --> 02:08:03.170 There's gonna be bigger and gnarlier and you know like 2444 02:08:03.229 --> 02:08:06.140 praying manas you know like how often in the animal 2445 02:08:06.149 --> 02:08:09.159 kingdom the female is like much bigger and you know 2446 02:08:09.180 --> 02:08:11.819 uh aggressive in a way. 2447 02:08:11.619 --> 02:08:13.720 You know that's what i was gonna say like are 2448 02:08:13.779 --> 02:08:15.739 they the more hardcore. 2449 02:08:15.239 --> 02:08:17.920 Ones yeah right like Like, these are, the guys are 2450 02:08:17.960 --> 02:08:20.039 just trying to keep up with, to be worthy mates. 2451 02:08:20.060 --> 02:08:22.199 Guys are like, I gotta go do this or my 2452 02:08:22.229 --> 02:08:27.890 wife's gonna beat my ass. It's just domestic abuse through 2453 02:08:27.949 --> 02:08:29.369 all the predator households. 2454 02:08:29.449 --> 02:08:30.050 That's it. 2455 02:08:30.550 --> 02:08:32.510 And that's why the men are all such assholes. 2456 02:08:32.609 --> 02:08:35.460 It's because they've just been beaten down by the females 2457 02:08:35.520 --> 02:08:40.180 of the species, which makes things even worse, actually. Yeah. Yeah, 2458 02:08:40.520 --> 02:08:42.479 you want to blame it on machismo, but now the 2459 02:08:42.520 --> 02:08:44.699 women are just going to show up and be even scarier. 2460 02:08:45.600 --> 02:08:48.390 These predators, they got issues, man. Our guy is the 2461 02:08:48.430 --> 02:08:49.430 only good one so far. 2462 02:08:49.930 --> 02:08:50.510 Yeah, yeah. 2463 02:08:50.909 --> 02:08:54.029 Well, I think, yeah, I'm really looking forward to seeing 2464 02:08:54.869 --> 02:08:58.149 Dax or whatever, like, riding around on the back of 2465 02:08:58.189 --> 02:09:01.720 the monkey and, you know, like Battle Cat and, you know, 2466 02:09:02.159 --> 02:09:04.119 throwing a spear or something, you know, and I'm down 2467 02:09:04.140 --> 02:09:04.439 with that. 2468 02:09:04.640 --> 02:09:07.409 Yeah, I mean, he got into this and he said 2469 02:09:07.430 --> 02:09:11.510 he had, when Prey got really well received, he had 2470 02:09:11.569 --> 02:09:15.500 like three more ideas. And one was Killer of Killers. 2471 02:09:15.979 --> 02:09:19.340 One was the movie we just watched. And there was 2472 02:09:19.420 --> 02:09:23.020 a third one that he's now working on. So he's 2473 02:09:23.060 --> 02:09:26.439 supposed to be bringing us the next Predator movie. I'm 2474 02:09:26.500 --> 02:09:28.920 assuming that's just a direct follow-up to this. I am 2475 02:09:28.979 --> 02:09:32.399 interested because, again, Killer of Killers leaves the door very 2476 02:09:32.520 --> 02:09:35.119 open at the end, too. So I'm like, is that 2477 02:09:35.229 --> 02:09:37.609 story also going to come into play? Or is they 2478 02:09:37.869 --> 02:09:40.229 just going to, somewhere down the line, do another animated 2479 02:09:40.270 --> 02:09:43.430 movie that's separate? But yeah, he seems like he's got... 2480 02:09:44.050 --> 02:09:46.649 a lot more plates spinning in the predator world. And 2481 02:09:46.670 --> 02:09:49.800 I'm like, thank God because I don't want it to 2482 02:09:49.819 --> 02:09:52.539 go to anyone else. He's so good at this. Yeah. 2483 02:09:52.619 --> 02:09:53.199 Just yeah. 2484 02:09:53.239 --> 02:09:55.189 Keep, keep letting him make good stuff. 2485 02:09:55.710 --> 02:09:55.949 Right. 2486 02:09:56.229 --> 02:09:56.430 Right. 2487 02:09:56.649 --> 02:09:59.390 He had an idea. He had an idea other than, 2488 02:09:59.909 --> 02:10:01.569 Predator stabs a guy in the face. 2489 02:10:03.869 --> 02:10:07.510 Now, I'm also, again, he made a great movie to 2490 02:10:07.529 --> 02:10:09.569 begin with. We've seen him do a little more work 2491 02:10:09.649 --> 02:10:12.520 on TV over the years, but now he's just been 2492 02:10:12.560 --> 02:10:16.159 immersed in the Predator world for so long. I kind 2493 02:10:16.199 --> 02:10:18.439 of want to see what else he does outside of that. Sure. 2494 02:10:18.859 --> 02:10:21.800 There's only one other thing that's supposedly. 2495 02:10:21.220 --> 02:10:23.739 In the works. Have you heard what else he's working on? 2496 02:10:23.760 --> 02:10:24.470 Mm-mm. 2497 02:10:24.619 --> 02:10:29.710 Nope. So, he's also, in addition to this next Predator movie, 2498 02:10:29.789 --> 02:10:34.029 working on a TV series adaptation of Waterworld. 2499 02:10:35.159 --> 02:10:35.359 Oh. 2500 02:10:38.500 --> 02:10:40.420 Dan, I have so much faith in you. 2501 02:10:40.920 --> 02:10:46.859 Can he save the Waterworld concept? Can someone make something 2502 02:10:47.060 --> 02:10:49.270 useful out of Waterworld? 2503 02:10:50.670 --> 02:10:58.310 Well, I mean, look, dude. I'm kind of mad at 2504 02:10:58.380 --> 02:11:04.739 him for getting distracted by Waterworld. 2505 02:11:05.399 --> 02:11:08.229 You can't complete thoughts because Waterworld took over your brain. 2506 02:11:08.810 --> 02:11:14.199 Yeah, I can't... No, I'm sorry. I'm mad at him 2507 02:11:14.260 --> 02:11:18.300 for getting... distracted by water world well. 2508 02:11:18.000 --> 02:11:20.420 But at the same time i mean i might have 2509 02:11:20.500 --> 02:11:24.340 questioned him taking on predator as a concept as well 2510 02:11:24.619 --> 02:11:28.699 and yet somehow he's knocked out three solid stories so 2511 02:11:28.739 --> 02:11:32.930 i'm like i mean there's a there's an essence of 2512 02:11:33.029 --> 02:11:41.420 something interesting in water world at the If someone can 2513

02:11:41.460 --> 02:11:46.159 do something interesting and maybe impressive with the concept, Dan 2514 02:11:46.180 --> 02:11:47.460 Trachtenberg may be the man. 2515 02:11:48.020 --> 02:11:48.380 Yeah. 2516 02:11:49.100 --> 02:11:53.090 I mean, look, I love Mad Max stuff, all right? 2517 02:11:53.199 --> 02:12:00.829 So Mad Max on jet skis was a good one-time watch, okay? 2518 02:12:02.010 --> 02:12:07.140 But yeah, I mean, yeah. Well, here's the thing. If 2519 02:12:07.180 --> 02:12:10.140 he's got a... angle on it if he's got a 2520 02:12:10.199 --> 02:12:12.680 story he can tell in the water world world you 2521 02:12:12.699 --> 02:12:17.250 know water world world and uh and it's not just 2522 02:12:17.789 --> 02:12:22.369 you know uh whatever the hell that was uh you know. 2523 02:12:22.640 --> 02:12:24.439 Just as the water world stunt show. 2524 02:12:24.460 --> 02:12:24.979 Yeah. 2525 02:12:25.000 --> 02:12:25.659 That's it. 2526 02:12:25.960 --> 02:12:30.020 Cause I was like, I've heard amazing reviews. Like people 2527 02:12:30.039 --> 02:12:32.060 have been like, yeah, water world's crap. But if you 2528 02:12:32.100 --> 02:12:32.760 ever went to. 2529 02:12:32.640 --> 02:12:35.520 The theme park and saw the stunt show, it's amazing. 2530 02:12:35.579 --> 02:12:37.460 So like, maybe you just saw that as a kid 2531 02:12:37.500 --> 02:12:40.319 and went, okay, I can do something with this. 2532 02:12:40.539 --> 02:12:40.739 Right. 2533 02:12:40.779 --> 02:12:43.039 I can take this stunt show. He's like, never seen 2534 02:12:43.060 --> 02:12:45.590 the movie. He just saw the stunt show. I can 2535 02:12:45.649 --> 02:12:46.739 do something with it. 2536 02:12:46.819 --> 02:12:47.279 Yeah. 2537 02:12:47.590 --> 02:12:47.909 Yeah. 2538 02:12:48.109 --> 02:12:48.510 All right. 2539 02:12:48.609 --> 02:12:48.890 All right. 2540 02:12:48.970 --> 02:12:49.210 Yeah. 2541 02:12:49.390 --> 02:12:57.140 I mean, look, he's, He's definitely the best hope Waterworld 2542 02:12:57.180 --> 02:12:57.739 has ever had. 2543 02:12:58.420 --> 02:13:03.539 Most definitely. The only other thing that was amazing that 2544 02:13:03.560 --> 02:13:09.020 was ever connected to Waterworld was Dennis Hopper. Man, I 2545 02:13:09.220 --> 02:13:11.949 could not have been more bored by Kevin Costner in 2546 02:13:11.970 --> 02:13:12.390 a movie. 2547 02:13:12.409 --> 02:13:15.090 And he's been boring in several movies over the years. 2548 02:13:15.449 --> 02:13:18.350 But no offense, he can turn in a good performance, 2549 02:13:18.409 --> 02:13:20.170 but he can also be the most boring man on 2550 02:13:20.189 --> 02:13:20.989 the planet. 2551 02:13:21.029 --> 02:13:22.310 What a World is a good example. 2552 02:13:22.890 --> 02:13:30.340 But to counterbalance that with crazy, over-the-top, scenery-chewing, one-eyed, bald-headed 2553 02:13:30.399 --> 02:13:34.159 Dennis Hopper was amazing. 2554 02:13:34.539 --> 02:13:38.180 It's not the worst movie ever made. Because

of Dennis Hopper. 2555 02:13:38.199 --> 02:13:40.119 Because of Dennis Hopper. I agree. 2556 02:13:40.380 --> 02:13:41.640 He's so good in that. 2557 02:13:42.180 --> 02:13:47.010 Again, as ridiculous, as over-the-top as you can be. And 2558 02:13:47.060 --> 02:13:51.210 he's just awesome and hilarious and crazy and... Yeah, it 2559 02:13:51.250 --> 02:13:53.970 was the reason I saw that. Again, I had to 2560 02:13:54.069 --> 02:13:56.109 play it in the background, but I would put it 2561 02:13:56.210 --> 02:13:59.279 in to hear Dennis Hopper say his crazy shit. Oh, yeah, yeah. 2562 02:13:59.479 --> 02:13:59.960 His big speech. 2563 02:13:59.979 --> 02:14:01.079 And I would just hear it. 2564 02:14:01.039 --> 02:14:03.140 All the time, and I'd be like, ah, that guy. 2565 02:14:03.220 --> 02:14:06.000 I love that guy. Crazy bastard that he was. 2566 02:14:06.020 --> 02:14:06.720 Right, right. 2567 02:14:06.739 --> 02:14:09.229 He's so good in that movie. Yeah, yeah. 2568 02:14:09.800 --> 02:14:12.239 But the bad guys in Mad Max movies are always 2569 02:14:12.460 --> 02:14:15.909 very entertaining, you know, and that's, that's basically what this was. 2570 02:14:15.989 --> 02:14:18.770 So there's not enough 11 to dial it up to. 2571 02:14:19.229 --> 02:14:22.010 You're the bad guy in the post-apocalyptic movie. 2572 02:14:22.109 --> 02:14:22.789 Absolutely. 2573 02:14:23.250 --> 02:14:25.130 You can do whatever you want. 2574 02:14:25.369 --> 02:14:30.170 That's it. That's it. The sky's the limit, you know? Uh, yeah, yeah. 2575 02:14:30.310 --> 02:14:30.510 Great. 2576 02:14:30.550 --> 02:14:33.130 Well, no, I'm, I'm, I'm down with it. You know, we'll, 2577 02:14:33.170 --> 02:14:39.300 we'll see, you know, it's, uh, He's definitely good at 2578 02:14:39.340 --> 02:14:43.920 breathing some life into some franchises that definitely need it. 2579 02:14:43.960 --> 02:14:46.020 Maybe that's what he needs. Maybe he needs that structure 2580 02:14:46.039 --> 02:14:50.130 to fight against. Sometimes when these guys go off on 2581 02:14:50.149 --> 02:14:54.630 their own and do their passion project, then you go like, oh, no. 2582 02:14:57.189 --> 02:15:01.109 But the fact that I'm assuming Predator was his passion project, 2583 02:15:01.149 --> 02:15:04.170 you know, he could have done whatever coming off of, like, 2584 02:15:04.189 --> 02:15:07.729 Cloverfield World was tons of money, so I'm assuming he 2585 02:15:07.770 --> 02:15:10.829 at least had a mid-budget movie he could have made 2586 02:15:10.930 --> 02:15:14.409 after that, and, like, he took on Prey when he 2587 02:15:14.630 --> 02:15:18.069 could have done whatever, so... Again, it feels like he's 2588 02:15:18.130 --> 02:15:20.489 got a good sense of what he wants to accomplish, 2589 02:15:20.649 --> 02:15:25.979 even if it's weird and unconventional. Waterworld is weird and unconventional, 2590 02:15:26.039 --> 02:15:28.840 so if anybody can pull it off, Dan is the man. 2591 02:15:29.560 --> 02:15:36.979 Yeah, absolutely. I don't envy him, though. The production horrors. 2592 02:15:36.550 --> 02:15:38.000 Of the Oh, yeah. 2593 02:15:38.039 --> 02:15:39.279 The original was. 2594 02:15:39.500 --> 02:15:42.380 Don't shoot on water is like the basic, you know, 2595 02:15:42.600 --> 02:15:46.270 stay away from kids, animals, and shooting on water. Those 2596 02:15:46.390 --> 02:15:49.210 are the rules of making anything. 2597 02:15:50.170 --> 02:15:50.430 Right. 2598 02:15:50.609 --> 02:15:54.250 Yeah. Yeah. That's not the best plan, but, you know, 2599 02:15:54.470 --> 02:15:56.010 he seems to like a challenge, so. 2600 02:15:56.050 --> 02:15:59.579 Yeah, dude. Yeah. Totally, dude. Totally. 2601 02:16:00.060 --> 02:16:00.279 Yeah. 2602 02:16:00.579 --> 02:16:07.470 Yeah. So, in summary, in summary, there's Predator.... 2603 02:16:09.210 --> 02:16:11.590 And then there's Dan Trachtenberg. 2604 02:16:11.630 --> 02:16:20.510 Dan Trachtenberg, after several floundering additions. You know, we finally, 2605 02:16:20.670 --> 02:16:24.409 after what, how long ago was Predator? Almost, what, almost 2606 02:16:24.409 --> 02:16:25.189 30 years ago? 2607 02:16:25.189 --> 02:16:25.510 87. 2608 02:16:25.510 --> 02:16:30.050 Yeah, geez. Oh my gosh, almost 40 years ago? 2609 02:16:31.449 --> 02:16:34.559 It's been a long run. It took a while to 2610 02:16:34.579 --> 02:16:36.719 get back to being impressive again. Right. 2611 02:16:36.899 --> 02:16:39.600 Space Hunter... It took a while to get the Space 2612 02:16:39.639 --> 02:16:43.319 Hunter formula right. Figure out what these movies were. 2613 02:16:43.459 --> 02:16:45.340 Just a few misfires along the way. 2614 02:16:45.360 --> 02:16:52.459 Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. Yeah, so, yeah. I was so 2615 02:16:52.479 --> 02:16:55.649 glad I saw it in the theater. 2616 02:16:55.670 --> 02:16:58.850 It made it better, just being immersed in all that, 2617 02:16:59.129 --> 02:17:02.209 because it's a crazy landscape. It is the Badlands. So 2618 02:17:02.729 --> 02:17:04.969 to be in the theater and have that sort of 2619 02:17:05.170 --> 02:17:08.030 up and around you and immersed in the sound and 2620 02:17:08.090 --> 02:17:10.559 all of it, it's definitely worth seeing in the theater. 2621 02:17:11.000 --> 02:17:11.719 Yeah, definitely. 2622 02:17:13.809 --> 02:17:14.649 Cool. Cool. 2623 02:17:14.750 --> 02:17:15.129 So yeah. 2624 02:17:15.430 --> 02:17:15.639 Yeah. 2625 02:17:15.920 --> 02:17:16.319 Check it out. 2626 02:17:16.329 --> 02:17:18.719 I liked it so much more than... Well, again, I 2627 02:17:18.940 --> 02:17:21.340 came in knowing he was involved. So I did already 2628 02:17:21.379 --> 02:17:25.100 have my bar set a little higher because it was involved. 2629 02:17:25.139 --> 02:17:28.100 But if you would have told me years ago that 2630 02:17:28.159 --> 02:17:30.680 I was going to enjoy a Predator movie this much, 2631 02:17:31.200 --> 02:17:33.139 I would have been like, are

you... Are you sure? 2632 02:17:33.180 --> 02:17:35.420 Are we talking about the same predator? Yeah. This isn't 2633 02:17:35.459 --> 02:17:37.840 like the ketchup predator, because those aren't funny either. Like, 2634 02:17:37.879 --> 02:17:40.920 what are we talking about? Right, right. What are you 2635 02:17:41.000 --> 02:17:44.290 selling me? So the fact that it somehow came around 2636 02:17:44.350 --> 02:17:46.870 to this and Dan made it work, like, more power 2637 02:17:46.889 --> 02:17:47.350 to you, man. 2638 02:17:47.370 --> 02:17:48.170 This is impressive. 2639 02:17:48.629 --> 02:17:49.950 Yeah, it felt like a movie, not like a movie. 2640 02:17:50.030 --> 02:17:51.440 a placeholder, you know? 2641 02:17:51.479 --> 02:17:51.659 Yeah. 2642 02:17:52.100 --> 02:17:53.340 Not a save the IP. 2643 02:17:53.719 --> 02:17:54.020 Yeah. 2644 02:17:54.079 --> 02:17:55.059 Yeah, exactly. 2645 02:17:55.200 --> 02:17:58.239 It actually had something to say, a story to tell 2646 02:17:58.360 --> 02:18:01.459 characters to bring us like, yeah, it's impressive. 2647 02:18:01.899 --> 02:18:03.780 Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. 2648 02:18:04.079 --> 02:18:09.379 Cool. Cool. We went on quite a predator journey there. So, um, yeah. Yeah. 2649 02:18:10.799 --> 02:18:13.459 Do you have anything to say to wrap up. 2650 02:18:13.379 --> 02:18:15.760 Your entire run here? 2651 02:18:15.780 --> 02:18:16.100 No. 2652 02:18:16.180 --> 02:18:18.020 Or any parting words of wisdom to anyone? 2653 02:18:18.520 --> 02:18:20.819 Absolutely. No, I don't. I mean, they should see it, 2654 02:18:20.850 --> 02:18:23.469 but I'm about to go completely nonverbal here. 2655 02:18:24.680 --> 02:18:27.409 This is the most talking we've done in months. 2656 02:18:27.430 --> 02:18:28.030 Yeah, yeah. 2657 02:18:28.290 --> 02:18:29.409 It's been a while. 2658 02:18:29.090 --> 02:18:30.670 Since we were on one of these, actually. 2659 02:18:30.709 --> 02:18:33.469 So, yeah, I realize that's the only time I talk 2660 02:18:33.489 --> 02:18:36.500 to humans is on the show. Absolutely. And yours are 2661 02:18:36.540 --> 02:18:39.639 always the most extended of conversations. 2662 02:18:39.680 --> 02:18:41.840 That was maybe a little more precious. It was a 2663 02:18:41.860 --> 02:18:42.440 little ambitious. 2664 02:18:42.479 --> 02:18:45.459 It's the only time I have these kind of conversations. 2665 02:18:45.750 --> 02:18:49.010 Yeah, it was a little ambitious to go over all... 2666 02:18:48.969 --> 02:18:51.030 I tried to hit all the Predator movies, but that 2667 02:18:51.069 --> 02:18:51.510 was a lot. 2668 02:18:51.530 --> 02:18:53.229 I mean, I don't know that I knew we were 2669 02:18:53.250 --> 02:18:55.370 going to go as in-depth as we did, but yet 2670 02:18:55.510 --> 02:18:57.610 I kind of did because I knew it was both 2671 02:18:57.639 --> 02:18:57.950 of us. 2672 02:18:58.329 --> 02:19:01.360 Yeah, it kind of needed to happen. It kind of 2673 02:19:01.760 --> 02:19:02.780 needed to... It was like. 2674 02:19:04.520 --> 02:19:06.639 If you ever had anything you wanted to say about 2675 02:19:06.700 --> 02:19:09.239 a Predator movie, this was your opportunity, so. 2676 02:19:10.889 --> 02:19:14.250 And I don't know that you can't, again, you probably 2677 02:19:14.329 --> 02:19:16.790 should jump from the first one to these last three, 2678 02:19:16.850 --> 02:19:20.790 but like you kind of can't without experiencing at least 2679 02:19:20.850 --> 02:19:23.790 a wrap up of all the weird missteps along the 2680 02:19:23.850 --> 02:19:26.790 way and attempting something. 2681 02:19:26.309 --> 02:19:27.450 And it didn't work. 2682 02:19:27.549 --> 02:19:30.030 And like, so yeah, it kind of brings it in 2683 02:19:30.090 --> 02:19:33.500 perspective and makes you appreciate these last three even more. 2684 02:19:33.559 --> 02:19:34.040 That's it. 2685 02:19:34.500 --> 02:19:34.959 Absolutely. 2686 02:19:35.680 --> 02:19:36.719 It's about the journey. 2687 02:19:37.280 --> 02:19:37.440 It is. 2688 02:19:37.459 --> 02:19:39.520 Take your pack and go on a journey. 2689 02:19:39.760 --> 02:19:40.219 That's it. 2690 02:19:40.540 --> 02:19:43.479 That's it. Grab your CG monkey and get out there. 2691 02:19:43.879 --> 02:19:45.000 Get out for the ride. 2692 02:19:45.180 --> 02:19:48.629 That's it. All right. 2693 02:19:48.690 --> 02:19:49.829 Well, thank you. 2694 02:19:49.850 --> 02:19:49.930 Yeah. 2695 02:19:50.909 --> 02:19:53.370 And thank you for anyone out there that is hung 2696 02:19:53.590 --> 02:19:56.229 on for this crazy journey. And thanks for coming along 2697 02:19:56.270 --> 02:20:01.129 with us and being on this Badlands planet with us. 2698 02:20:01.469 --> 02:20:02.690 That's right. That's right. 2699 02:20:03.450 --> 02:20:03.709 Yeah. 2700 02:20:04.659 --> 02:20:07.059 Otherwise, that about does it. We will return next time. 2701 02:20:07.100 --> 02:20:10.000 Same geek feed. Thanks for listening. Thanks, y'all. 2702 02:20:20.770 --> 02:20:23.420 Listen up now, I'm a leader. You don't want a 2703 02:20:23.459 --> 02:20:25.780 dad by the hand that feeds you. I ain't never 2704 02:20:25.819 --> 02:20:28.459 been scared of the wrath of my demons. I'm a 2705 02:20:28.520 --> 02:20:32.479 monster and I have your bitches screaming. Hands up, I 2706 02:20:32.579 --> 02:20:35.239 am designer. Built from the ground and my house, it 2707 02:20:35.299 --> 02:20:39.280 gets higher. Open up the door, everything I desire. Back 2708 02:20:39.319 --> 02:20:39.860 down now. 2709 02:20:39.879 --> 02:20:41.280 I'm here to take what's mine. 2710 02:20:42.319 --> 02:20:44.549 One, two, three, four, drop the smoke and hit your door. Five, six, seven, eight, 2711 02:20:44.569 --> 02:20:46.149 hold up, let me demonstrate. I'm wired, I'm hot, we're starting, 2712 02:20:46.170 --> 02:20:47.190 can't stop, I come out, I'm talking. 2713 02:20:47.250 --> 02:20:47.670 I'm the predator. 2714 02:20:47.690 --> 02:20:52.250 I'm the predator. 2715 02:20:52.329 --> 02:20:52.930 I'm the predator. 2716 02:21:17.520 --> 02:21:20.659 I come fresh with the army. Heard you got the gasoline, 2717 02:21:20.719 --> 02:21:23.440 pour a little on me. I spit fire, I ain't 2718 02:21:23.479 --> 02:21:26.420 never been sorry. Belly of the beast, this is my 2719 02:21:26.479 --> 02:21:30.840 damn story. I always win hands down. Heavy is the 2720 02:21:30.879 --> 02:21:34.100 head that wears the crown. Handed down the play, but 2721 02:21:34.120 --> 02:21:36.569 I love the chase. R.I.P. 2722 02:21:36.600 --> 02:21:39.090 To the one that gets brave. 1, 2, 3, 4, 2723 02:21:39.090 --> 02:21:41.610 triple snacking at your door. 5, 6, 7, 8, hold up, 2724 02:21:41.690 --> 02:21:43.309 let me demonstrate. 2725 02:21:43.389 --> 02:21:43.809 I'm on it. 2726 02:22:33.299 --> 02:23:01.420 I was going like, We are wasting so many more 2727 02:23:01.459 --> 02:23:05.969 words on AVP than needs to be said when we've 2728 02:23:05.989 --> 02:23:10.950 got this amazing movie to talk about here. 2729 02:23:11.110 --> 02:23:14.270 Again, by comparison, that makes it so much better when 2730 02:23:14.309 --> 02:23:15.049 we get there. 2731 02:23:15.149 --> 02:23:15.850 When we get there. 2732 02:23:16.090 --> 02:23:18.950 Look at all these messed up things they did years ago, 2733 02:23:19.049 --> 02:23:21.930 and then Dan comes in and just saves the franchise. 2734 02:23:21.969 --> 02:23:24.780 This episode is a production of Movie Meltdown, produced and 2735 02:23:24.819 --> 02:23:28.100 edited by The Oddity Studios, with opening music performed by 2736 02:23:28.139 --> 02:23:30.870 The Empires. 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