Pełna transkrypcja odcinka Drake Maye vs Caleb Williams Headlines NFL Week 7 as Rams Implode & Chargers Hit Rock Bottom

and Zach, are here to join me in Matt to talk all things football, but especially that. 00:02:04.239 --> 00:02:07.760 So we'll dedicate a nice large chunk to everything. 00:02:08.080 --> 00:02:11.680 Patriots, Bears on a short week in Thursday night football. 00:02:11.759 --> 00:02:14.400 But I do want to start off with this Rams team. 00:02:14.560 --> 00:02:21.680 Uh, Zach immediately ran to a gleeful level of Schaden Freud in the group chat when they decided to lose to the Arizona Cardinals. 00:02:21.759 --> 00:02:25.360 Again, a team that we already crossed off, killed, buried, died dead long ago. 00:02:25.520 --> 00:02:28.800 Not in any way relevant until they do things like this. 00:02:28.879 --> 00:02:37.439 So, Zach, I'll go to you first since you seem the happiest about the demise of the Los Angeles Rams in this Uber roster that they've assembled. 00:02:37.599 --> 00:02:38.800 Can they bring it back? 00:02:39.039 --> 00:02:40.159 Do you want them to? 00:02:40.319 --> 00:02:42.319 What's wrong with Sean McVay's eyes? 00:02:42.400 --> 00:02:44.400 All questions that people want to know. 00:02:44.800 --> 00:02:51.199 I I mean, I said in the prediction show they would be like, you know, close to undefeated, and and look quick, look at me. 00:02:51.280 --> 00:02:52.400 Look how stupid I look now. 00:02:52.639 --> 00:02:52.960 It's great. 00:02:53.919 --> 00:02:54.560 Who would have thought? 00:02:54.800 --> 00:02:55.280 Not me. 00:02:55.439 --> 00:02:56.479 Certainly not me. 00:02:56.719 --> 00:03:02.879 Uh yeah, I think 19th might be maybe too high in this uh in this rankings here. 00:03:03.039 --> 00:03:12.639 I still would have put them below the Cardinals because man, I I don't know. 00:03:12.719 --> 00:03:19.199 And especially uh Devontae Adams now going down with a grade 27 hamstring sprain. 00:03:19.280 --> 00:03:23.680 Like you really have to uh you're really gonna lie. 00:03:24.000 --> 00:03:26.240 No, no, I couldn't I couldn't even keep a straight face for that one. 00:03:26.479 --> 00:03:27.120 God damn it. 00:03:27.360 --> 00:03:29.759 Uh yeah, I mean Adams going down too. 00:03:29.919 --> 00:03:37.039 That's uh that's another huge loss, but might not be because I mean they had this whole super team assembled and they've just been playing like dog shit the whole time. 00:03:37.280 --> 00:03:38.479 So I don't know. 00:03:38.639 --> 00:03:43.280 It's just uh the wheels are coming off really fast, and I really I know it's early. 00:03:43.520 --> 00:03:50.719 Six games is really not much, but at the same time, when you're losing key guys in your offense and your team overall, I don't know. 00:03:50.800 --> 00:03:55.599 It might maybe the defense might step up, but I think the offense is gonna uh kind of fall apart. 00:03:55.919 --> 00:04:11.280 Mike, I hope this isn't true of all of them, but it seems McVeigh is the latest, bitten by this offensive guru, great offensive mind, sort of can't manage a game book that seems to be going around the place for offensive coaches a lot of the time. 00:04:11.439 --> 00:04:20.399 Um we saw it with former fired coaches, we've seen it with, you know, even the great minds, the Shanahans of the world, I think have been guilty of it at times. 00:04:20.959 --> 00:04:30.000 The additional part of this with McVeigh, though, is he seems to be unable to manage a game properly, even though he is this great offensive mind, and also he seems to be cracking the fuck up, dude. 00:04:30.079 --> 00:04:34.079 So you and I have always been pretty high on Sean McVay, Mike, as if I if memory serves. 00:04:34.160 --> 00:04:40.079 And and now I'm a little bit like, ugh, should have trusted that the haircut was a sign of a bigger problem. 00:04:41.040 --> 00:04:48.000 Well, I I think uh I think it's both a catastrophic uh season so far, and it's also too early. 00:04:48.079 --> 00:04:56.160 Uh, because I I think historically, when you look at when you look at a Sean McVay team, his teams, when they are uh preseason ranked like in the top five, do not perform. 00:04:56.319 --> 00:05:01.519 They won the Super Bowl going into that the going into that season, they were like a top 18 team, right? 00:05:01.759 --> 00:05:11.600 Uh last year, or was it two years ago when they started out, was it five and five, and then they just rattled off I think it was six straight wins uh to win that division. 00:05:12.079 --> 00:05:19.519 Listen, I think we've seen we've seen this in other sports, like when the Heat compiled their super team, they did not figure it the fuck out until year two. 00:05:19.759 --> 00:05:29.519 I think bringing Aaron Donald back was is all great on paper, but uh if he goes next game without a sack, it will be the longest uh stretch in his career that he's uh that he's gone without a sack. 00:05:29.759 --> 00:05:32.560 Right now it's four games, uh, he's never gone five. 00:05:32.879 --> 00:05:43.279 You haven't had um oh god, uh Miles Garrett healthy, and then I I just still trust him. 00:05:43.519 --> 00:05:49.920 I trust McVay in a playoff scenario more than I trust any other coach in that division. 00:05:50.000 --> 00:05:52.639 And the Super Bowl champion is in that fucking division. 00:05:52.800 --> 00:05:56.399 So I don't know what that says about me or if that says it about Sean McVay. 00:05:57.519 --> 00:05:59.199 I do think it's reasonable. 00:05:59.279 --> 00:06:00.399 You're being very reasonable. 00:06:00.560 --> 00:06:01.680 That's not what we're doing here. 00:06:01.839 --> 00:06:04.000 We're here to uh we all piled in to laugh at them. 00:06:04.079 --> 00:06:05.199 No, you are being reasonable. 00:06:05.360 --> 00:06:09.839 I I think it's still fair to say it's m it's moved from a disappointing start into an alarming start. 00:06:09.920 --> 00:06:15.519 I mean, they've they're coming close to as close to a must-win game in October as you can come with their next game uh at Las Vegas. 00:06:15.680 --> 00:06:19.120 And Matt has them at 19

in his power rankings. 00:06:19.279 --> 00:06:24.399 They were 12th last week, so yeah, that like you're right around disappointing last week to all of a sudden like shit. 00:06:24.560 --> 00:06:28.959 19 might even be too high if if you're like they're still right, and I understand why they're here, Matt. 00:06:29.040 --> 00:06:36.480 I'm not even criticizing the placement, but it's the idea of like they're 19th because of the fumes of the expectations of the beginning of the season, right? 00:06:36.560 --> 00:06:40.560 Like it's not because of anything they've really done over this two and four run, right? 00:06:42.319 --> 00:06:48.319 No, yeah, it's they're only here, they're only not at the bottom just because every team beneath them, I think, is absolutely dead in the water. 00:06:48.399 --> 00:06:55.600 And I still think with this much less in the season left in the season, they have the opportunity to turn this uh scheming pile of shit around. 00:06:55.759 --> 00:06:58.639 Um, but man, it has been so much fun watching this. 00:06:58.800 --> 00:07:06.560 I I love this more than that year that the Yankees would spend like like two million, two billion dollars in the postseason, come out and lose the first 30 games. 00:07:06.720 --> 00:07:09.040 I could watch this team struggle all day long. 00:07:09.519 --> 00:07:14.160 Sean McVeigh is doing the best SNL character of a coach that's lost his mind I've ever seen. 00:07:14.560 --> 00:07:15.279 I'm so about it. 00:07:15.839 --> 00:07:16.240 He is. 00:07:16.399 --> 00:07:17.279 His eyes are crazy. 00:07:17.360 --> 00:07:18.879 Stop touching your microphone and desk. 00:07:19.199 --> 00:07:27.600 So the moving moving right along, and I by since we're here in the West, we might as well might as well round it out and finish the uh the NSC West. 00:07:27.839 --> 00:07:34.560 Um I if I was looking at your rankings, the 49ers, last week they were one, this week they're one. 00:07:34.800 --> 00:07:36.000 Spoiler alert, everybody. 00:07:36.560 --> 00:07:37.199 That's fine. 00:07:37.360 --> 00:07:38.319 Everyone's fine with that. 00:07:38.399 --> 00:07:40.160 No one's got any dissenting opinions there. 00:07:40.480 --> 00:07:41.519 Perfectly reasonable. 00:07:41.759 --> 00:07:43.680 The Seahawks are eighth. 00:07:43.839 --> 00:07:45.199 Last week they were sixth. 00:07:45.759 --> 00:07:48.160 I might put this to the group as maybe a little bit too high. 00:07:48.240 --> 00:07:52.879 Losing 17-14 at Denver, dropping its second consecutive game and third overall. 00:07:52.959 --> 00:07:59.279 The defending champs are now 500 and three full games behind Division Leader San Francisco. 00:07:59.439 --> 00:08:01.920 The NFC is floundering to a certain degree. 00:08:02.000 --> 00:08:06.240 It seems like who's who's gonna make the playoffs is basically the NFC North and Friends. 00:08:06.319 --> 00:08:10.240 Uh, that's I don't understand how that seems to be occurring, but whatever. 00:08:10.399 --> 00:08:13.040

Um, at this point, number eight, I don't know. 00:08:13.120 --> 00:08:18.480 I think it's it's given an awful lot of credit for what we thought they were again, instead of what they've actually been recently. 00:08:18.560 --> 00:08:30.800 And they're coming up, and I do always say this to you, and I know you're you're not necessarily supposed to be factoring this in, but it's looking really like a three-and-four Seattle Seahawks team considering their next opponent is the Kansas City Chiefs. 00:08:30.959 --> 00:08:39.679 If they beat Kansas City, all complaints disappear, but Zach, I mean, how do you make what do you make of the team that defeated your New England Patriots in the Super Bowl? 00:08:39.840 --> 00:08:41.679 Are you taking a little bit of a victory lap on this? 00:08:41.759 --> 00:08:43.840 Because overall the Pats look better than them this year. 00:08:44.399 --> 00:08:46.879 Uh no, I I wouldn't take a victory lap. 00:08:46.960 --> 00:08:57.840 I think I think uh any game in Denver, no matter how good or mediocre the Broncos are, is always a tough uh, reasonable and fair about you, also. 00:08:57.919 --> 00:08:58.399 Fuck you guys. 00:08:58.559 --> 00:08:58.879 Just kidding. 00:08:58.960 --> 00:08:59.120 Go on. 00:08:59.360 --> 00:09:00.080 Well, you're welcome. 00:09:01.519 --> 00:09:02.320 But you know what? 00:09:02.399 --> 00:09:08.879 I it I mean it is eight's kind of interesting. 00:09:09.039 --> 00:09:10.879 It is, but I I don't know. 00:09:11.120 --> 00:09:14.799 They are the Super Bowl champs, they're it you do kind of factor that in, even though you shouldn't. 00:09:14.879 --> 00:09:17.039 It's a new season, new year, different players. 00:09:17.519 --> 00:09:19.840 Um I don't hate the placement. 00:09:19.919 --> 00:09:20.879 I think eight's good. 00:09:20.960 --> 00:09:23.039 And uh yeah, good job, Matt. 00:09:23.440 --> 00:09:24.960 Mike, any chance you hate the placement? 00:09:25.519 --> 00:09:26.320 Yeah, I hate the placement. 00:09:26.399 --> 00:09:32.000 I don't I don't think you can have a you can have a three and three team in the top fucking ten uh the NFL power rankings. 00:09:32.080 --> 00:09:33.360 Like you just you just can't. 00:09:33.519 --> 00:09:42.480 And uh it you told me Matt a couple weeks ago, it is about what I I've seen so far and what I think is going to happen. 00:09:42.639 --> 00:09:48.480 So what the fuck have you seen so far that you think they're in the top 25% of the NFL? 00:09:48.799 --> 00:09:51.840 Well, what I think is gonna happen is I think the team's gonna start to just start. 00:09:52.240 --> 00:09:52.960 That's not what I asked you. 00:09:53.279 --> 00:09:54.080 That's not what I asked you. 00:09:54.240 --> 00:09:55.360 Listen, uh what here okay. 00:09:55.440 --> 00:10:00.799 So what I've seen is I've seen the team go up and down, I've seen them beat some competitors, I've seen them lost some really tough ones. 00:10:00.879 --> 00:10:02.159 And I just here's my thing. 00:10:02.320 --> 00:10:12.480 When I look below them, other than um the Ravens, with your uh favorite quarterback being out, uh I don't know who I'd put above them as far as who I think the better team is. 00:10:12.799 --> 00:10:17.600 I just it's not the Packers, it's certainly not the Jaguars who lost a way tougher game in home stadium. 00:10:18.080 --> 00:10:23.360 It might just be the Jaguars, the Packers, the Panthers, the Lions, the Steelers. 00:10:24.960 --> 00:10:28.639 So listen to the Packers just dog the Packers just dog walked your team, TK. 00:10:28.720 --> 00:10:29.279 Like this happened. 00:10:29.600 --> 00:10:31.360 And then yeah, we were fucking terrible that day. 00:10:31.440 --> 00:10:33.679 Imagine getting dog walked by the fucking Packers, dude. 00:10:33.759 --> 00:10:34.159 Holy shit. 00:10:34.960 --> 00:10:36.159 Time out, time out, time out. 00:10:36.240 --> 00:10:37.120 Hold on, hold on. 00:10:37.279 --> 00:10:42.799 The Packers and are like that one cousin that's always bullied the Bears, like that doesn't count. 00:10:42.879 --> 00:10:48.159 Them losing to them in October is not a really high marker of how good either team is. 00:10:48.639 --> 00:10:49.279 Shit happens. 00:10:49.360 --> 00:10:50.639 It's the oldest fight we have. 00:10:52.559 --> 00:11:01.120 If the Jaguars had beaten the Bills 45 to 17, whatever the fuck they beat us by, and it wasn't that they beat us, you would have the Jaguars ranked higher than the fucking Seahawks. 00:11:01.200 --> 00:11:01.919 That's just a fact. 00:11:02.240 --> 00:11:05.039 How many wins did Houston have before they just beat them? 00:11:06.320 --> 00:11:06.720 One. 00:11:07.120 --> 00:11:08.639 Okay, so okay. 00:11:09.039 --> 00:11:09.919 So what am I gonna do? 00:11:10.000 --> 00:11:18.480 I'm gonna punish the the the reigning champ for losing a tough one to what could have been their Super Bowl opponent because the Jaguars beat a bunch of high school players? 00:11:18.960 --> 00:11:20.559 Can I make a can I ask you one question? 00:11:20.720 --> 00:11:25.039 I I do think you've defended this position quite well, but I I just want to ask you one question. 00:11:25.600 --> 00:11:25.919 No. 00:11:26.799 --> 00:11:32.000 Would you be able to defend Sam Darnold being a bottom 10 QB so far this season? 00:11:32.320 --> 00:11:40.639 Because like if if you don't think he's a bottom 10 QB and you would actually defend the point that he isn't a bottom 10 QB this year, I would refer you to the eye test. 00:11:40.879 --> 00:11:46.559 That dude has looked like he is has suffered a grade 27, as Zach would put it, head injury this year. 00:11:46.720 --> 00:11:48.480 And I I like, I don't know. 00:11:48.639 --> 00:11:55.039 Get him a fucking Guardian cap, or at the very least, take the Dunce cap that he's been wearing off and let him play some actual fucking football. 00:11:55.200 --> 00:11:58.399 I can't believe you guys lost to Sam Darnold now that I think about it. 00:11:58.480 --> 00:11:59.039 Like,

that's what I'm saying. 00:12:00.080 --> 00:12:00.879 We didn't, we didn't. 00:12:00.960 --> 00:12:02.480 We lost to uh Drew Locke. 00:12:02.559 --> 00:12:04.720 So if that makes me right, it's even worse. 00:12:06.080 --> 00:12:07.519 I forgot he wasn't even healthy. 00:12:07.679 --> 00:12:09.519 I wonder if he would have won if he had played. 00:12:09.759 --> 00:12:16.399 I would I would I would I would have I wonder if uh yeah that's a two point I think the Patriots probably could have won if Sam Darnold played. 00:12:16.559 --> 00:12:17.440 I mean we could have won this. 00:12:17.840 --> 00:12:18.399 Might have been better. 00:12:18.480 --> 00:12:22.639 Yeah, Jake May didn't throw three interceptions in the fourth quarter, but like all those things happen. 00:12:22.960 --> 00:12:23.279 Right. 00:12:23.679 --> 00:12:24.799 That's a long time ago now. 00:12:24.879 --> 00:12:26.480 You guys are like a completely different team. 00:12:26.639 --> 00:12:29.440 Um all things all things revert to the mean eventually. 00:12:29.519 --> 00:12:40.320 Look, I'm just saying Sam Darnold's quarterback play has really made it hard for me to justify that the that you can say the Seahawks are a top 10 team because I mean I guess it's crazy though, because like the Vikings are a top five team. 00:12:40.559 --> 00:12:42.799 So uh yeah, it's kind of it is hard. 00:12:42.879 --> 00:12:45.840 I mean, Kyler kind of looked all right, I thought. 00:12:46.080 --> 00:12:48.720 Um, but we'll come on to that. 00:12:49.039 --> 00:12:51.120 Yeah, the NFC West is is interesting. 00:12:51.279 --> 00:12:53.360 It's certainly not up for grabs anymore. 00:12:53.519 --> 00:12:59.039 I I think that the San Francisco 49ers are gonna walk that division, and then the Seahawks are already. 00:12:59.120 --> 00:13:06.159 I mean, six games in, the Seahawks are already looking at a at a wild card berth here in the NFC, which is that's fucking nuts to think about. 00:13:06.240 --> 00:13:16.799 Um not to not to show your like your thunder here, TK, but would and would you or anyone else still be surprised if by the end of the season the Rams are are have a better record than the Seahawks? 00:13:17.759 --> 00:13:18.000 Nope. 00:13:18.240 --> 00:13:20.080 Yeah, but they're not gonna win their division, though. 00:13:20.159 --> 00:13:20.720 I mean, this is the key. 00:13:20.960 --> 00:13:21.600 No, no, no, no, I know. 00:13:21.679 --> 00:13:23.120 Like they're they're not I don't think they're gonna be a wild fan. 00:13:23.360 --> 00:13:23.679 No, I wouldn't. 00:13:23.759 --> 00:13:25.120 I mean, they're only one game off each other. 00:13:25.200 --> 00:13:26.639 Uh I that wouldn't surprise me at all. 00:13:26.720 --> 00:13:28.879 I think the ra I think your point earlier was well taken. 00:13:28.960 --> 00:13:30.480 I think the Rams can kind of turn it around. 00:13:30.639 --> 00:13:36.879 The the thing that's really freaking me out about the Rams in the context of this NFC West uh division is

the look on Sean McVeigh's face. 00:13:36.960 --> 00:13:41.919 Like he it's really not filling me with any confidence that that team is gonna turn it around. 00:13:42.000 --> 00:13:48.000 And I'm a body language guy, I'm a vibes guy, uh you're a stats guy, you know, and I and I and I understand the data is important. 00:13:48.320 --> 00:13:50.159 Um, but I don't know, man. 00:13:50.240 --> 00:14:01.840 Like if my if if the guy setups if the guy who dug my foxhole had the look on his face that Sean McVeigh had on his face, I'd be uh I'd be thinking about maybe getting into my rations a little early, you know. 00:14:01.919 --> 00:14:09.120 Uh get but maybe have one of those uh freeze-dried cigarettes or whatever the fuck was in there because it doesn't seem like it's going well in Los Angeles. 00:14:09.279 --> 00:14:10.480 Um, I mean it never is. 00:14:10.559 --> 00:14:11.919 This place is a fucking hellhole. 00:14:12.080 --> 00:14:14.159 But uh but yeah, I don't know. 00:14:14.240 --> 00:14:16.000 I mean the Cardinals certainly aren't winning that division. 00:14:16.080 --> 00:14:18.879 I I don't know if anybody but the 49ers is uh are. 00:14:19.039 --> 00:14:27.279 Um I think the Seahawks and the Rams will definitely be in a kind of a death battle by the end to get that, get like a seventh or eighth spot in the NFC overall. 00:14:27.360 --> 00:14:28.879 So we'll see how that goes. 00:14:29.039 --> 00:14:42.320 Uh the issue with it is you know, you have the NFC North right there, like only one person can win that division, and it looks like all four teams have the potential at the very least, and I'm not big enough my team, but it's all four teams have the potential at the very least to be playoff teams. 00:14:42.480 --> 00:14:54.559 So it seems like it's gonna be a crowded field like fighting for second across the board here, you know, which is why why I would worry about the Rams and the Seahawks, is that yeah, they might get their act together, but are they gonna be relevant come you know January? 00:14:54.720 --> 00:14:59.440 I I I have my my doubts, and I did not think that leading into the into the year. 00:14:59.600 --> 00:15:03.279 Um can we talk about just to touch on a couple of important points here? 00:15:03.360 --> 00:15:15.120 And I and I do uh appreciate that the the fundamental hierarchy of the power rankings here is is to put them first, but storyline-wise, that's pretty crazy that they let Jalen Hurts get on a plane, Matt. 00:15:15.519 --> 00:15:26.000 Um I I don't I know I knew the Eagles ran their organization like uh like a cheap body shop in the middle of nowhere, but I didn't know it was this fucking bad. 00:15:26.080 --> 00:15:26.799 Holy shit. 00:15:26.960 --> 00:15:27.919 What do you think that is? 00:15:28.000 --> 00:15:32.399 Do you think that they just like know he can't throw over the middle, so they wanted him to die so they could collect the insurance? 00:15:32.559 --> 00:15:33.919 Like, I don't understand. 00:15:34.480 --> 00:15:38.000 Well, I here's listen, I understand now very clearly that uh Mr. 00:15:38.080 --> 00:15:43.440 Soriani is not a medical expert, so um you know he's not a Mensa member either, let's be honest. 00:15:43.679 --> 00:15:45.360 Holy shit, he said that 15 times. 00:15:45.519 --> 00:15:46.879 Watching his face, him and McVeigh. 00:15:47.200 --> 00:15:49.840 You have medical experts that literally work for you, though, sir. 00:15:50.480 --> 00:15:54.559 We need him and McVeigh to get into like some some like golden mitch boxing class or something. 00:15:54.639 --> 00:15:57.039 I watch these guys fight for who's got the crazier eyes. 00:15:57.200 --> 00:15:59.679 Um, it's a tough look, it's a tough looking feeling. 00:15:59.919 --> 00:16:04.639 I'm starting to love that thing more and more because they're so quick to cannibalize their own people. 00:16:04.720 --> 00:16:05.759 It is a beautiful thing. 00:16:05.919 --> 00:16:07.759 They would eat their own young if they were a little hungry. 00:16:07.840 --> 00:16:09.759 Those cheesesteaks are not filling them up down there. 00:16:09.919 --> 00:16:11.919 Uh what do you think the cheese sticks are made of, dude? 00:16:13.600 --> 00:16:15.679 Or really Nick Soriani if he keeps it up. 00:16:15.919 --> 00:16:16.879 Yeah, no, they will. 00:16:17.360 --> 00:16:18.320 They'll turn on you real fast. 00:16:18.399 --> 00:16:20.080 That's a group of people that are not the best. 00:16:20.240 --> 00:16:24.000 Um, Mike, well, I just your managerial experience. 00:16:24.159 --> 00:16:25.679 Would you ever put somebody in a situation like that? 00:16:25.919 --> 00:16:28.639 No, it's no, this is it doesn't make any fucking sense to me. 00:16:28.720 --> 00:16:31.440 A like okay, so I don't think we have all the information. 00:16:31.679 --> 00:16:37.039 Uh well, the information that we have, this this looks like malpractice of every fucking level. 00:16:37.200 --> 00:16:37.440 Yeah. 00:16:37.679 --> 00:16:41.039 And and it looks like Jalen Hurts is the new owner of the Philadelphia Eagles. 00:16:41.200 --> 00:16:42.159 Like at the very least. 00:16:42.240 --> 00:16:43.279 Uh like that should fucking. 00:16:43.679 --> 00:16:44.559 Do you want that? 00:16:44.879 --> 00:16:46.000 I'm not a doctor. 00:16:46.159 --> 00:16:47.360 No one here is a doctor. 00:16:47.440 --> 00:16:51.200 We all know that if you have a blood clot, you should get on a technically. 00:16:51.440 --> 00:16:53.600 I I know it might sound hard to believe, but technically you have to. 00:16:54.399 --> 00:16:56.559 Like, what's your what's your doctor of the law? 00:16:56.799 --> 00:16:58.080 Yeah, I'm a doctor of the law. 00:16:58.159 --> 00:16:59.519 I have a doctorate. 00:16:59.759 --> 00:17:00.639 It's pretty crazy. 00:17:00.720 --> 00:17:01.200 I know. 00:17:01.360 --> 00:17:01.679 I know. 00:17:01.840 --> 00:17:03.759 Once you get to know him, it becomes more and more ridiculous. 00:17:04.000 --> 00:17:04.480 I'm not too

much. 00:17:04.640 --> 00:17:05.359 You call me doctor. 00:17:05.920 --> 00:17:06.319 I won't. 00:17:06.480 --> 00:17:07.440 Yeah, doctor Dipson. 00:17:09.359 --> 00:17:12.400 I don't know how you're the Hollywood upstairs medical school. 00:17:13.119 --> 00:17:15.680 I don't know how you let him play a game. 00:17:16.000 --> 00:17:23.680 And then after all of that happened and you all know that on the inside, how the fuck do you let your head coach even answer a question? 00:17:23.839 --> 00:17:25.039 Like, don't even put him out there. 00:17:25.200 --> 00:17:26.480 Do not put him out there. 00:17:26.720 --> 00:17:33.200 Put the team medical uh, you know, doctor out there and just say, We're gonna tell we're gonna tell you what we know and we're gonna be looking at. 00:17:33.440 --> 00:17:39.759 But the fact is, you tell you said this in uh the pre-show, the NFL doesn't give a shit uh about about the players. 00:17:39.920 --> 00:17:41.680 It's never been more highlighted than this. 00:17:41.759 --> 00:17:50.640 They conducted an investigation, they found that the uh the Eagles did nothing wrong, and you pointed out it's because all the owners hired uh Goodell. 00:17:50.720 --> 00:17:51.359 He works for them. 00:17:51.440 --> 00:17:54.240 So what investigation is actually gonna yield anything, right? 00:17:55.039 --> 00:18:01.039 I I don't I don't see or I don't see a scenario where Jalen Hurts doesn't sue and make a fuck ton of money. 00:18:01.839 --> 00:18:02.720 Sue his own team. 00:18:04.000 --> 00:18:06.400 Uh he might not he he might not be able to play again. 00:18:06.720 --> 00:18:08.640 I wonder, Matt, uh, can you speak to this? 00:18:08.960 --> 00:18:12.240 Would he be under some sort of anti-arbitration clause in his contract? 00:18:12.319 --> 00:18:12.799 That's a thing. 00:18:12.880 --> 00:18:22.160 I I often have to sign non-arbitration agreements when I work for companies to basically say like they can mistreat me as much as they want, and I can't sue them because I'm protected by a union. 00:18:22.400 --> 00:18:27.440 And like these players are protected by a union, so it's like you're you follow your union guidelines, we're not here to protect you. 00:18:27.519 --> 00:18:29.599 There's I I sign those agreements all the time. 00:18:30.000 --> 00:18:34.480 I'm sure, I'm sure they do, but in case of gross negligence, there's always like a waiver to that kind of stuff. 00:18:34.559 --> 00:18:37.680 Like, and there's always somebody you can sue if you can't sue the team in the league directly. 00:18:37.839 --> 00:18:39.920 There's always someone you can't sue, Matt Wilcox. 00:18:40.400 --> 00:18:41.119 How do we do, baby? 00:18:41.200 --> 00:18:43.119 We've got to put it on the fucking business card. 00:18:43.680 --> 00:18:45.200 Ask the Mass State police about me. 00:18:45.279 --> 00:18:46.000 We figured it out. 00:18:46.079 --> 00:18:47.920 They think they're able to watch this. 00:18:48.160 --> 00:18:49.279 Uh, that's funny. 00:18:49.359 --> 00:18:50.640 Um, I don't know, man. 00:18:50.720 --> 00:18:57.920 I mean, Zach, if this is your friend or brother or or you know, even mild acquaintance, you're you're advocating for him to get something out of this, surely. 00:18:58.000 --> 00:18:59.279 Like, he's gotta be furious, right? 00:18:59.519 --> 00:19:00.319 Oh, you have to be. 00:19:00.400 --> 00:19:03.839 Like you said, like this could potentially end his career, which is insane. 00:19:04.160 --> 00:19:04.880 That's a life. 00:19:05.200 --> 00:19:11.039 I mean, it could have killed him, yes, but it could it's it seems like it might end his career, which is fucking unbelievable. 00:19:11.200 --> 00:19:18.079 Yeah, you if you're and like it should not surprise anyone about the NFL conducting a one-day investigation and then concluding it was fine. 00:19:20.240 --> 00:19:20.400 Right. 00:19:20.480 --> 00:19:30.960 They they try to uh they try to cover up the whole concussion uh issue for decades and let you know Junior Sale kill himself and all these other players go through God knows what. 00:19:31.119 --> 00:19:35.039 So yeah, this this is not surprising whatsoever from the NFL standpoint. 00:19:35.440 --> 00:19:39.759 On three separate occasions in a week, they put that they put Jalen Hurts's life at risk. 00:19:39.920 --> 00:19:42.559 They flew him to London when he had this, when he had this. 00:19:42.640 --> 00:19:46.799 They then kept him up for 36 hours, London playing a game, and then they flew his fucking ass back. 00:19:47.039 --> 00:19:49.039 Oh for oh, sorry, you're forgetting one four ways. 00:19:49.119 --> 00:19:51.200 They also let him live in the city of Philadelphia. 00:19:51.359 --> 00:19:57.599 Um, the uh the I mean that's just a fucking that's just a risky endeavor for anyone involved, I gotta say. 00:19:57.759 --> 00:20:03.200 Um while he's going to Sinai in New York, he can live with LeBron. 00:20:03.279 --> 00:20:03.599 So perfect. 00:20:03.680 --> 00:20:04.640 They can commute together. 00:20:05.039 --> 00:20:07.039 Yeah, LeBron won't even live there, you see. 00:20:07.119 --> 00:20:10.480 Um LeBron, your your basketball players won't even live in your city, guys. 00:20:10.799 --> 00:20:11.839 Shit hole. 00:20:12.960 --> 00:20:18.960 Um the the best TV show about the city of Philadelphia is about how the worst people in the world live there. 00:20:19.119 --> 00:20:21.200 Um, and and the title is ironic. 00:20:21.440 --> 00:20:26.079 Um, I guess if you look at that division as a whole, I mean the Cowboys are just a fucking joke. 00:20:26.160 --> 00:20:27.599 I I I couldn't believe them. 00:20:27.680 --> 00:20:33.359 I I didn't understand uh why they feel that the gang can't shoot straight against the Packers. 00:20:33.519 --> 00:20:36.559 I think anybody would have looked good against the Dallas Cowboys. 00:20:36.640 --> 00:20:41.599 I will admit, begrudgingly, the Packers have looked a lot better than I have assessed them over the last two

weeks. 00:20:41.839 --> 00:20:46.160 That being said, uh deep balls are a wide receiver stat, and that's a hill I'll I'll die on. 00:20:46.240 --> 00:20:55.279 Uh Jordan Lowe still stinks, and uh I I I mean there was about five dudes running around completely wide open all day in prime time, and they still dropped a bunch of passes. 00:20:55.440 --> 00:20:57.839 So I'm Golden dropped three of them. 00:20:58.079 --> 00:20:58.720 Yeah, that's bad. 00:20:58.799 --> 00:21:01.599 That's I mean, we are gonna talk a little bit about AJ Brown too, sorry to say. 00:21:01.680 --> 00:21:10.960 But I uh you know, there were there was some there were some pretty bad drops across the course of the NFL week six, but I I mean honestly, I I don't think it says much about the Packers beating the Cowboys. 00:21:11.039 --> 00:21:14.240 I think it says more that they beat the Bears, despite it being a divisional game. 00:21:14.319 --> 00:21:16.319 I do think the Bears played absolutely trash in that game. 00:21:16.400 --> 00:21:20.799 And yeah, we had a backup QB in there and we lost four starters in the first quarter in our defense. 00:21:20.960 --> 00:21:22.480 I don't really want to make those excuses. 00:21:22.559 --> 00:21:25.359 You can't lose to Green Bay um if you're trying to be a winning team in Chicago. 00:21:25.440 --> 00:21:26.799 It's it's fucking embarrassing. 00:21:26.960 --> 00:21:29.279 Even if it is at Lambeau, even if it is, etc., etc. 00:21:29.440 --> 00:21:32.079 You can't make Jordan Love look like Joe Montana on television. 00:21:32.240 --> 00:21:34.160 That's it's just completely unacceptable. 00:21:34.240 --> 00:21:35.519 So hopefully they learn from that. 00:21:35.680 --> 00:21:45.119 But overall, I mean, uh the Cowboys, I just hope Bobby doesn't get Cowboys games on whatever planet he's currently living on because I don't think it's uh good watch. 00:21:45.279 --> 00:21:48.400 I I their defense is is atrocious. 00:21:48.640 --> 00:21:54.799 Their offense seemed like a bunch of talented guys that just met, which seems to be a yearly occurrence for the Cowboys. 00:21:54.880 --> 00:21:55.279 I don't know. 00:21:55.519 --> 00:21:57.839 Mike, what the fuck is going on in Dallas? 00:21:58.000 --> 00:21:59.200 What's going on in this division? 00:21:59.279 --> 00:22:01.359 And Are the Giants gonna win it? 00:22:01.599 --> 00:22:03.039 Like, is that actually what's gonna happen? 00:22:03.119 --> 00:22:05.039 Cam Scattabu had zero touches. 00:22:05.200 --> 00:22:08.960 That was the big that was the big uh story coming out of out of the NFC East. 00:22:09.200 --> 00:22:09.599 I don't know. 00:22:09.839 --> 00:22:11.440 Were the Giants our steel, Zach? 00:22:12.160 --> 00:22:12.559 Yes. 00:22:13.279 --> 00:22:15.519 Yeah, because you guys had them at like two wins, right? 00:22:15.839 --> 00:22:17.519 Uh TK. 00:22:17.759 --> 00:22:18.000 Yeah. 00:22:18.319 --> 00:22:18.559 Yeah. 00:22:19.200 --> 00:22:21.119 I would four wins? 00:22:21.279 --> 00:22:23.519 They're already gonna streak by both of us. 00:22:24.160 --> 00:22:29.279 No, I I I think I said I I I could see eight, so Zach probably made me pick six. 00:22:29.680 --> 00:22:34.480 Um but I think I listen, I thought Washington was gonna be better. 00:22:34.799 --> 00:22:42.079 I thought Philly was gonna be better, I thought New York, I thought the Johnson be better, I thought Dallas was gonna be exactly who we fucking thought they have always been. 00:22:42.240 --> 00:22:45.279 They are high-powered offense, but they they are inept. 00:22:45.759 --> 00:22:50.720 And in not, you know, not cut in time, Dak does always fuck up. 00:22:51.599 --> 00:23:05.759 And this is not all his fault because this defense, while it's not what was it, 2021 or 2022 level like atrociousness, they're just not they don't have really any playmakers actually making plays. 00:23:05.920 --> 00:23:08.960 No, they do have Joey Porter Jr., he's just not doing anything. 00:23:09.119 --> 00:23:12.720 They do have that lineman that they got from Green Bay, he's just not doing anything. 00:23:12.880 --> 00:23:15.119 Uh so they they need a playmaker. 00:23:15.200 --> 00:23:21.839 Uh, and I think, yeah, they're they're gonna be one of those teams that just has a good offense and and wins seven or eight games. 00:23:22.160 --> 00:23:28.160 For the record, in our NFL prediction show, we put them at five and twelve, and you guys did steal, and you put them at eight wins. 00:23:28.319 --> 00:23:29.759 So you're actually looking pretty good. 00:23:29.839 --> 00:23:31.039 Um, Zach didn't talk you. 00:23:31.119 --> 00:23:36.640 I mean, I don't know why he caught a stray there in a hypothetical, but he did not talk you down from uh from eight to six. 00:23:36.799 --> 00:23:38.000 Uh maybe you wanted ten. 00:23:38.160 --> 00:23:38.400 I don't know. 00:23:38.480 --> 00:23:42.640 Maybe you really believed in this Giants team and w whatever version of a person you were at that time. 00:23:42.880 --> 00:23:44.960 Um yeah, I've I've grown a lot since then. 00:23:45.200 --> 00:23:45.920 Yeah, yeah. 00:23:46.000 --> 00:23:51.039 I I've really I've really felt the maturity uh when I get like Caleb Williams memes in my inbox on a daily basis. 00:23:51.119 --> 00:23:55.519 The um I don't fucking make them, yeah, but you share them, which is an endorsement. 00:23:55.839 --> 00:23:58.480 Hold on, he's been sending them, he's been sending them directly to me now. 00:23:58.559 --> 00:24:00.319 We're not even sharing them to you, so oh right. 00:24:00.400 --> 00:24:02.240 Yeah, we're just talking about trying to shield you. 00:24:02.720 --> 00:24:04.000 Yeah, I'm trying to shield you from it. 00:24:04.160 --> 00:24:05.279 Yeah, that's real love. 00:24:05.920 --> 00:24:06.880 Appreciate that, mom. 00:24:07.359 --> 00:24:08.319 Um okay. 00:24:08.480 --> 00:24:12.960 Anything, anybody have anything else to say about the fucking absolute dumpster fire that is the NFC East? 00:24:13.039 -->

00:24:19.920 I really thought that the NFC South was going to be the NFC East, but it turns out the NFC South is still just the NFC South, which is also strange. 00:24:20.079 --> 00:24:22.799 But the NFC East is just I I have no idea. 00:24:22.880 --> 00:24:24.160 I don't even know what to make of these guys. 00:24:24.319 --> 00:24:25.440 Anyone got anything on this team? 00:24:25.519 --> 00:24:27.279 Any any big bold predictions? 00:24:27.680 --> 00:24:31.759 They're just marching to the beat of their own drum and that drum's a uh trash can. 00:24:32.000 --> 00:24:33.200 So yeah, yeah, yeah. 00:24:33.359 --> 00:24:39.680 It's it's four teams that get an extra 30 minutes on every test, you know, in a s in a special room when they're when they're not done yet. 00:24:40.640 --> 00:24:54.000 Is the quarterback that they that they got from Minnesota is he actually going to be good until Jackson Darrell comes back, or is that just they weren't yeah, like did JJ McCarthy show that he could actually play quarterback in the NFL in that fourth quarter? 00:24:55.680 --> 00:24:56.400 He's he's doing it. 00:24:56.559 --> 00:24:56.799 I agree. 00:24:57.200 --> 00:25:00.400 People don't game plan for him, and then when they do, it goes really badly for him. 00:25:01.359 --> 00:25:04.640 I mean 243 yards and a quarter is fucking nuts. 00:25:05.200 --> 00:25:07.200 Yeah, but I mean then you just figure him out again. 00:25:07.519 --> 00:25:10.319 You know, like then the next team that actually can be competent just figures him out again. 00:25:10.400 --> 00:25:11.839 I'm just I I've from the time he got dragged in the back. 00:25:12.000 --> 00:25:14.400 Did you start him over over Jameis? 00:25:14.960 --> 00:25:16.319 I always like a Jameis game. 00:25:17.440 --> 00:25:18.400 He's a fucking weirdo. 00:25:18.640 --> 00:25:19.599 I I like him a lot. 00:25:19.759 --> 00:25:20.720 I just like him as a guy. 00:25:20.799 --> 00:25:21.680 I would like to hang out with him. 00:25:21.759 --> 00:25:24.720 I he's he's a starter in our hearts, if not on the field. 00:25:24.960 --> 00:25:27.200 Um, who else is interesting? 00:25:27.599 --> 00:25:30.559 Talked about the NFC West, we talked about the NFC East. 00:25:30.880 --> 00:25:33.440 I don't really want to touch the NFC South yet. 00:25:33.519 --> 00:25:34.559 It's a very strange division. 00:25:34.640 --> 00:25:37.359 And yeah, the Panthers, the Panthers are interesting. 00:25:37.599 --> 00:25:39.039 The Panthers have been interesting. 00:25:39.200 --> 00:26:04.960 I mean, it to me it seems like this this Bryce Young uh got benched, you know, took a look at himself, took a long look in the mirror, uh, realized the mirror was too tall, had the mirror lowered down, uh, looked again in the mirror and said, you know, you even though despite your obvious physical um impairments, you you can make something of yourself in this league, despite the fact that your name is Bryce, which is like I think consensus the worst name you

can have, other than, I don't know, Adolph. 00:26:05.119 --> 00:26:08.799 Uh it's it's a terrible, it's a terrible situation he was born into. 00:26:08.880 --> 00:26:12.559 And I really believe in in the power of overcoming adversity. 00:26:12.640 --> 00:26:16.480 And I think the Panthers are a real uh dis display in that. 00:26:16.559 --> 00:26:20.000 But the Falcons are better than their record, they're better than two and four, I think. 00:26:20.079 --> 00:26:20.799 Um the safety. 00:26:20.960 --> 00:26:22.079 They're better than their quarterback. 00:26:22.319 --> 00:26:23.680 Yeah, I would I I don't know. 00:26:23.759 --> 00:26:24.960 I think Penix is alright. 00:26:25.039 --> 00:26:29.839 I I rate him a little higher than you do, but maybe not as high as Matt does because Matt tied his flag to that mask on the show. 00:26:29.920 --> 00:26:33.200 I really have to release because it's just becoming contextually ridiculous. 00:26:33.359 --> 00:26:36.319 I'll do a little uh intro at the start of that game. 00:26:36.559 --> 00:26:39.119 Um the books, I I don't know. 00:26:39.279 --> 00:26:42.559 I I thought they could maybe get feisty, but it doesn't look like it. 00:26:42.640 --> 00:26:48.000 Um, that kid doesn't seem like he really is NFL caliber. 00:26:48.160 --> 00:26:49.599 I mean, he's better than we thought he was. 00:26:49.680 --> 00:26:50.240 I I don't know. 00:26:50.319 --> 00:26:52.000 He he's gonna get confused with the other one. 00:26:52.079 --> 00:26:53.279 Uh maybe they can trade it. 00:26:54.240 --> 00:27:02.160 Did you see that his that his wrist uh full of plays got knocked off and they took it to the opposing sideline and then they just shut him down the rest of the game? 00:27:02.319 --> 00:27:03.839 Because they knew exactly what the fuck he was calling. 00:27:04.640 --> 00:27:05.279 That's crazy. 00:27:05.440 --> 00:27:05.759 Oh no. 00:27:06.079 --> 00:27:06.559 That's nuts. 00:27:06.720 --> 00:27:07.920 You should are you allowed to do that? 00:27:08.000 --> 00:27:12.160 I mean, I guess if you just like hand intelligence over to the other army, like they're allowed to use it. 00:27:12.400 --> 00:27:16.480 He got hit so hard that it came off his fucking wrist, and the opposing team just picked up and walked over to their side. 00:27:16.720 --> 00:27:17.519 What are they gonna do? 00:27:17.759 --> 00:27:18.640 I think you should know the plays. 00:27:18.720 --> 00:27:20.000 I don't think you should have one of those wrist things. 00:27:20.079 --> 00:27:20.960 What do you what do you think? 00:27:21.359 --> 00:27:21.759 I love that. 00:27:21.920 --> 00:27:24.960 I mean, every every quarterback in the NFL has ever had that, so yeah. 00:27:25.519 --> 00:27:26.079 Not all of them. 00:27:26.160 --> 00:27:26.960 Some of them don't play with it. 00:27:27.119 --> 00:27:29.119 Brady Brady had him, he's the best one of all time. 00:27:29.279 --> 00:27:31.440 Okay, but just because Brady did it doesn't mean it's okay. 00:27:31.519 -->

00:27:34.400 He also mouth kisses his child, which is which is fine. 00:27:34.480 --> 00:27:34.799 It's fine. 00:27:36.720 --> 00:27:39.680 I mean, I'm just saying, but him doing it doesn't make it right, you know. 00:27:40.000 --> 00:27:41.200 His 12-year-old child. 00:27:41.440 --> 00:27:43.119 Well, he did it and it was fine. 00:27:43.359 --> 00:27:46.000 Yeah, don't kiss your kid on the lips if he has object permanence. 00:27:46.079 --> 00:27:46.799 I agree, Mike. 00:27:46.960 --> 00:27:51.039 So the uh like do it before he knows enough to get fucked up by it. 00:27:51.119 --> 00:27:53.119 I'm I'm totally in Mike's in Mike's camp on that one. 00:27:53.359 --> 00:27:54.160 It was weird as shit. 00:27:54.240 --> 00:27:56.640 No, I mean I'm putting plenty of players don't have them, I think. 00:27:56.720 --> 00:27:59.119 I feel like, and also like, shouldn't they be at least in code? 00:27:59.279 --> 00:28:02.240 You know, like shouldn't they be like hard to figure out if the other team gets them? 00:28:02.400 --> 00:28:05.440 Like it just says the plays, it just says like mesh spots on your phone. 00:28:05.680 --> 00:28:12.240 We know Jordan Love does not have it because he literally just takes a nine-step drop back and just heaves it and just hopes that one of his receivers doesn't drop it. 00:28:12.400 --> 00:28:12.640 Yeah, yeah. 00:28:12.799 --> 00:28:13.599 Just doesn't need all of that. 00:28:14.559 --> 00:28:16.319 He couldn't read, so that would go, you know. 00:28:16.559 --> 00:28:19.839 Who Mike Tomlin never had one because he couldn't read, so you know it's not big deal. 00:28:20.000 --> 00:28:21.200 Mike Tomlin wasn't a quarterback, Matt. 00:28:21.279 --> 00:28:22.400 We're talking about the little wrist things. 00:28:24.000 --> 00:28:24.799 I'm pretty sure he had a play. 00:28:25.200 --> 00:28:26.880 So dumb it's the playoffs. 00:28:27.680 --> 00:28:30.400 Um, Mike Tomlin is universally loved at this point. 00:28:30.480 --> 00:28:32.240 Like his stock is like on the rise. 00:28:32.319 --> 00:28:35.279 Like he's really great at the end of games uh on NBC. 00:28:35.440 --> 00:28:37.519 So I don't know why you're so against him. 00:28:37.599 --> 00:28:38.160 Is it a race? 00:28:38.640 --> 00:28:41.200 Lots of quarterbacks have lots of quarterbacks have the have the wrist plays. 00:28:41.279 --> 00:28:43.440 Well, Mike Tomlin doesn't he can't ring. 00:28:43.599 --> 00:28:44.559 What the fuck are you talking about? 00:28:45.200 --> 00:28:46.400 You're just trying to shoehorn something in there. 00:28:46.559 --> 00:28:46.880 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 00:28:49.200 --> 00:28:51.200 Michael Penix Jr.'s name when he's out there kicking ass. 00:28:51.279 --> 00:28:53.279 Us penis riders, we're gonna keep riding for him. 00:28:53.440 --> 00:28:55.599 Yeah, dude, he sucks at playing football. 00:28:56.480 --> 00:28:57.279 I wouldn't go that far. 00:28:57.359 --> 00:28:57.759 He's okay. 00:29:01.440 --> 00:29:02.319 On panics? 00:29:02.720 --> 00:29:03.920 Yeah, that guy smells. 00:29:05.519 --> 00:29:08.240 Smells like he's got a couple wins in his in his cleats there, huh? 00:29:08.559 --> 00:29:08.720 Yeah. 00:29:08.960 --> 00:29:10.640 I didn't say how he smelled, it just smells. 00:29:12.480 --> 00:29:16.720 All right, let's go to the AFC and just run through these fucking actually good teams. 00:29:16.880 --> 00:29:20.559 Um, okay, uh, the AFC West, the Chiefs, the Broncos, the Raiders, the Chargers. 00:29:20.720 --> 00:29:22.960 The Chargers have lost six games and won none. 00:29:23.039 --> 00:29:24.640 Uh first coach fired Harbaugh. 00:29:24.799 --> 00:29:26.640 I mean, it's a matter of time now at this point, right? 00:29:26.720 --> 00:29:27.759 It's it's any second. 00:29:28.000 --> 00:29:31.279 We've seen a GM fired, but we haven't we haven't seen any. 00:29:31.440 --> 00:29:32.559 I mean, I don't know why it's a contract. 00:29:33.039 --> 00:29:35.519 I really hope they just hold on to him for the whole season. 00:29:35.920 --> 00:29:36.799 For the value of the entertainment. 00:29:37.039 --> 00:29:43.759 Dude, this is like I mean, I don't know if there's any value in them tanking to be the to get the number one overall draft pick. 00:29:43.839 --> 00:29:50.240 I don't know what the mock drafts are saying, but regardless, I just think it'd be great. 00:29:51.200 --> 00:29:56.960 That's the only thing making them relevant right now is just seeing how stupid Harbaugh sounds every week and just how bad this team is. 00:29:57.279 --> 00:29:58.799 So why not just keep him out there? 00:29:59.119 --> 00:30:04.000 Every time they pan over to him on the sideline, it I he just looks like Biden in that in his fucking last debate. 00:30:04.079 --> 00:30:05.680 Like he's just not there anymore. 00:30:05.839 --> 00:30:07.440 He's not fucking there. 00:30:07.920 --> 00:30:10.160 And I think they're gonna keep him. 00:30:10.240 --> 00:30:20.400 I think they should, he should be like, you should embarrass him because he decided when he took over that team, he was gonna get rid of as many skill players as possible and try to build that offense from the line out. 00:30:20.480 --> 00:30:24.240 Turns out the lineman that he drafted can't stay fucking uh injury free. 00:30:24.319 --> 00:30:24.960 They're always hurt. 00:30:25.200 --> 00:30:28.720 Don't just doesn't have a ball sack. 00:30:28.960 --> 00:30:30.240 Yes, Justin Herbert. 00:30:30.319 --> 00:30:34.640 I will I was gonna come on to admit that your take is completely in stone on that one. 00:30:34.720 --> 00:30:35.839 You were totally right about him. 00:30:35.920 --> 00:30:42.400 He's not, he's regressed basically year on year, um, across across the time he's spent playing well. 00:30:42.559 --> 00:30:44.640 And I think you're totally correct about him. 00:30:44.720 --> 00:30:48.400 Um, I think I thought he was Trevor Lawrence and Trevor Lawrence was him, and I was wrong. 00:30:48.640 --> 00:30:52.640 But the and uh yeah, I am

confusing blonde white people because you're allowed to do that. 00:30:52.720 --> 00:30:53.519 Okay, you're allowed. 00:30:53.680 --> 00:30:58.720 And and I'm getting old, my gray matter is calcifying, and if I'm gonna do that, let me at least do it with the whites. 00:30:59.039 --> 00:31:06.799 But I have to say, every single pick they picked up on the line was not injury prone coming in. 00:31:06.880 --> 00:31:07.920 Like, there's been some bad luck. 00:31:08.000 --> 00:31:14.559 Like, Joald had the best injury stats of anybody in college, like he he played the most snaps of like any human being on a collegiate level. 00:31:14.640 --> 00:31:20.480 Like, maybe that's why, but like it's just I but the data that they had, they couldn't have known that. 00:31:20.559 --> 00:31:22.000 Uh, that's my one defense of them. 00:31:22.079 --> 00:31:29.039 And what I will also say is as we start to talk about mock drafts and tanking, as Zach just brought up towards towards the end of the season. 00:31:29.200 --> 00:31:33.039 Um, I really do need to release that game because that uh we draft Arch Manning. 00:31:33.119 --> 00:31:38.000 We tank for Arch Manning thing is crazy because really you're gonna need like the 15th pick to get him at this point. 00:31:38.079 --> 00:31:39.839 So uh he might get benched. 00:31:40.160 --> 00:31:50.559 Yeah, so um uh yeah, I I mean uh on name alone, if it was if Matt was power ranking him, you know, he would definitely apply the context, but um not playing well. 00:31:50.640 --> 00:31:52.559 His his draft stock going down. 00:31:52.720 --> 00:31:54.640 The Chiefs are looking likely to win that division. 00:31:54.720 --> 00:31:57.200 The Broncos are a kind of a weak four and two, I would say. 00:31:57.279 --> 00:31:59.279 I don't think they've looked that convincing being four and two. 00:31:59.440 --> 00:32:02.720 And the Raiders kind of are just starting to look like a team you don't really want to play. 00:32:02.880 --> 00:32:10.000 Um they they look like a team you should beat, but at least an annoying hurdle in your season that I'm sure that you guys have have experienced firsthand. 00:32:10.079 --> 00:32:13.839 I mean, you won the game, but it's you're not a hundred percent sure going in. 00:32:13.920 --> 00:32:16.000 They might actually have something about them, it turns out. 00:32:16.160 --> 00:32:20.480 So it is a bit of a kooky division, the AFC West, but um I don't know. 00:32:20.799 --> 00:32:28.319 Chiefs look like the Chiefs again, and it it's to the point where we're not talking about them at all because they are just inevitable, you know? 00:32:28.640 --> 00:32:33.119 And it's like you don't want to talk about Thanos too much because then he comes true, you know. 00:32:33.359 --> 00:32:40.960 It's but it's a little bit different Chiefs team, and this this kind of flies in the face of everything that I've said on this podcast, and I'm just gonna say it now just so get out of the way. 00:32:41.119 --> 00:32:42.960 It's Kenneth Walker has changed that team. 00:32:43.359 --> 00:32:44.319 I know he's so good. 00:32:44.480 --> 00:32:46.799 Wow, that's very big of you, Mike. 00:32:46.960 --> 00:32:48.960 I really really big of you, too. 00:32:49.359 --> 00:32:50.559 Now he's not the best player on that team. 00:32:50.720 --> 00:32:54.240 Patrick Mahomes still is, so if they win a Super Bowl, it will be because of Patrick Mahomes. 00:32:54.319 --> 00:32:56.319 But Kenneth Walker has changed that team. 00:32:56.960 --> 00:32:59.200 No, no, it's just nice to hear you give running backs credit. 00:32:59.279 --> 00:32:59.839 It's great. 00:33:00.079 --> 00:33:01.519 Yeah, you do hate running backs. 00:33:01.759 --> 00:33:02.079 I hate him. 00:33:02.240 --> 00:33:03.839 Oh, I no, I don't hate them, I just don't value them. 00:33:04.000 --> 00:33:04.400 There's a difference. 00:33:04.480 --> 00:33:06.960 Well, yeah, you're in Pittsburgh Steelers front office. 00:33:07.039 --> 00:33:12.640 I mean, it's just like they just they're not they're not a highly uh coveted uh skill position for you. 00:33:12.720 --> 00:33:13.119 I get it. 00:33:13.200 --> 00:33:21.119 I mean, I you're a data guy, and like they're mostly made up of how good their run blockers are, if you sort of correlate the statistics of every running. 00:33:21.440 --> 00:33:22.799 I'm also a quarterback guy. 00:33:23.200 --> 00:33:24.480 Yeah, Michael Bay Jr. 00:33:25.359 --> 00:33:27.039 No, like one that says healthy. 00:33:27.680 --> 00:33:33.759 I will say, like, they do look like a pretty legitimate force and and they do have multiple um offensive weapons now. 00:33:33.839 --> 00:33:40.160 Uh they handled the Chargers 22-6, exactly what an undefeated heavyweight is supposed to do to an 0 and now six team. 00:33:40.240 --> 00:33:53.359 Um, they continue to occupy, I think, like a very annoying territory where you, like I was saying, like you sort of take them for granted because winning five straight doesn't qualify as news for them, which they reseated themselves in that position so quickly. 00:33:53.680 --> 00:33:56.160 The last team I saw do that was you fuckers. 00:33:56.240 --> 00:33:58.160 Uh so it's it's difficult. 00:33:58.319 --> 00:34:00.000 They are playing Seattle Sunday night. 00:34:00.160 --> 00:34:04.000 Definitely the toughest environment they've gone to uh in a primetime game. 00:34:04.079 --> 00:34:06.880 So let's see uh what the what the actual test is there. 00:34:07.119 --> 00:34:09.039 And honestly, we we talked about Seattle. 00:34:09.119 --> 00:34:12.079 I mean, their backs are against the wall, they're gonna have to try to really come out and win this game. 00:34:12.159 --> 00:34:12.800 It's important. 00:34:12.960 --> 00:34:15.360 So um I got I'm flagging that one. 00:34:15.440 --> 00:34:16.559 I got my eye on that game. 00:34:16.719 --> 00:34:30.320 Um moving right along through the rest of the AFC, unless uh anybody got I I got I got one knit to pick, one bone to

pick with Matt, really, and the rest of the AFC, and then we can launch into the Bears Patriots conversation if you guys are ready. 00:34:30.400 --> 00:34:31.920 But um the only bone. 00:34:32.000 --> 00:34:32.480 Go ahead. 00:34:32.719 --> 00:34:38.480 Well, the Pittsburgh Steelers were last week were 16, and now they're 16, and they just beat Tampa Bay 26-19. 00:34:38.559 --> 00:34:39.440 They're four and two. 00:34:39.920 --> 00:34:47.519 You're I just think your long-standing refusal to respect them in any way, shape, or form is becoming increasingly difficult to defend, but maybe you'll be able to do it this week. 00:34:47.599 --> 00:34:51.840 You just haven't really yeah, it's yeah, you you've pretty much admitted it's a bias at this point. 00:34:51.920 --> 00:34:57.760 So they've got the same record as Cleveland and Baltimore, and they've been winning enough different types of games that this doesn't look like a fluke to me. 00:34:58.079 --> 00:35:01.840 Aaron Rodgers, and this is not fun for me to say, is playing really well. 00:35:02.079 --> 00:35:03.760 He's playing genuinely really well. 00:35:03.920 --> 00:35:04.559 He just is. 00:35:04.639 --> 00:35:14.320 Uh, I again I don't know how sustainable that is for a 57-year-old, 63-year-old, 71-year-old man in December of this year, in which he will have turned 82. 00:35:14.639 --> 00:35:17.920 But I don't know, they're about to go play New Orleans and they're gonna be probably five and two. 00:35:18.079 --> 00:35:19.840 And I just I it's I don't know. 00:35:19.920 --> 00:35:23.840 The Saints did show signs of life, so it's a little bit more interesting of a game, but come on, man. 00:35:24.239 --> 00:35:25.440 16 and they didn't even move. 00:35:25.599 --> 00:35:38.719 Well, so I could I could sit here and I could go back to my point about the Seahawks and the Jaguars, not respecting the Jaguars being a one-win team, and relate that to the Steelers coming out and being a dog shit Tampa Bay team and having to do it in overtime, which is like kind of embarrassing. 00:35:38.880 --> 00:35:43.679 But really, what it is is this is my list, and where they are is where they are. 00:35:46.000 --> 00:35:49.360 I I I do completely agree about them beating Tampa. 00:35:49.519 --> 00:35:54.719 I was watching the game thinking to myself, like, aren't they uh aren't they supposed to be better? 00:35:54.880 --> 00:36:03.119 As an aren't people hyping up Aaron Rodgers and how he's playing, and here they are going overtime against terrible Tampa team and they're they back up QB. 00:36:03.440 --> 00:36:04.239 We all thought they're gonna be good. 00:36:04.320 --> 00:36:05.599 We all thought they're gonna be able to cross them off right now. 00:36:05.840 --> 00:36:08.559 Oh, Tampa's Baker, yeah, Baker's not playing. 00:36:08.800 --> 00:36:09.039 Right. 00:36:09.360 --> 00:36:14.159 They got they got Jaden Daniels' uh third long lost cousin uh at quarterback. 00:36:14.239 --> 00:36:17.679 Like, what I don't know what you're gonna do at this current moment, they are terrible. 00:36:18.400 --> 00:36:23.920 So and in this current week when the Steelers played them, they should have not gone to overtime. 00:36:24.000 --> 00:36:24.719 So I don't know. 00:36:24.800 --> 00:36:27.760 I mean, it feels like we apply this logic like when it suits us. 00:36:27.840 --> 00:36:28.880 You know, it's like we're gonna be able to do that. 00:36:29.039 --> 00:36:30.960 Well, yeah, that's that's the whole point of me being on this book. 00:36:31.599 --> 00:36:32.559 What else are we doing here? 00:36:32.800 --> 00:36:33.760 I just I don't know. 00:36:33.840 --> 00:36:41.760 I don't mean to bring down the whole house of cards, but it's like sometimes when it's the Patriots, it's like, well, they can only play with put in front of them, and it's like, well, yeah, any NFL team can beat you. 00:36:41.840 --> 00:36:44.880 I mean, go on overtime, you never know what's gonna happen, blah blah blah blah blah. 00:36:44.960 --> 00:36:47.599 And then it's like, oh, the Steelers should have beaten Tampa worse. 00:36:47.760 --> 00:36:48.400 I don't know. 00:36:48.559 --> 00:36:52.639 I mean, I'd I imagine that you guys aren't gonna apply. 00:36:53.280 --> 00:36:54.880 Here's a this is a perfect segue, DK. 00:36:55.039 --> 00:37:00.480 I'm just you right now would would say that the Bills are a really good team. 00:37:00.800 --> 00:37:00.960 Right. 00:37:01.119 --> 00:37:05.440 I mean, I have huge question marks about their defense at this point, but sure they're a good team, yeah. 00:37:05.599 --> 00:37:06.239 Okay, I'd say good. 00:37:06.559 --> 00:37:12.320 They haven't they have an easier schedule this year than we did last year, when nobody nobody's even talking about it. 00:37:12.559 --> 00:37:13.280 So there is bias. 00:37:13.760 --> 00:37:14.559 People are talking about it. 00:37:14.639 --> 00:37:15.679 I think people are talking about it. 00:37:15.760 --> 00:37:17.760 There's definitely bias, but bias towards the Bills, though. 00:37:17.840 --> 00:37:23.440 I mean, I pointed it out last week on this show that that when Josh Allen makes a mistake, when he throws a deep interception, they call it like an arm punt. 00:37:23.599 --> 00:37:29.360 Like, I don't, you know, like I I when they barely beat the Raiders, it was like, oh, they got by a pretty good Raiders team. 00:37:29.440 --> 00:37:30.400 Like, we again we beat them. 00:37:30.559 --> 00:37:33.280 They said the same thing about seventeen. 00:37:33.519 --> 00:37:35.599 No, but they said, but but they they applied the same logic. 00:37:35.679 --> 00:37:38.400 It was like, oh, they fucking like they waxed the Raiders. 00:37:38.480 --> 00:37:40.079 Like it's just the Raiders, like, no big deal. 00:37:40.239 --> 00:37:41.039 Like, this is what I'm saying. 00:37:41.119 --> 00:37:45.519 They like the goalposts move all the time based on how you beat teams, and I really think the metric should be. 00:37:45.760 --> 00:37:46.719

Yeah, I think so. 00:37:46.960 --> 00:37:50.960 I I think it's I should maybe my tone is as aggressive, but I just think no, I agree with you. 00:37:51.039 --> 00:37:53.599 It's it's like, sorry, no, I am I am purposely agreeing with you. 00:37:53.679 --> 00:37:58.159 It's like it's uh but but I think you're also agreeing with my point in relation to the Steelers. 00:37:58.239 --> 00:38:01.679 It's like I think so when if you win a game, you win the fucking game. 00:38:01.760 --> 00:38:02.960 That's what I think the metric should be. 00:38:03.039 --> 00:38:04.960 It's like, oh, they didn't win the way we wanted them to. 00:38:05.039 --> 00:38:06.719 I just don't know if that's necessarily fair. 00:38:06.960 --> 00:38:09.920 I mean, the fucking Packers barely beat the Buccaneers. 00:38:10.000 --> 00:38:19.519 If the Steelers barely beat the Buccaneers, like both, like nobody, you didn't hear anyone in the NFL media other than me uh be like where I was applying the logic differently to suit my agenda then. 00:38:19.679 --> 00:38:23.519 Uh the it's you didn't have anyone be like, oh, the Packers only barely beat the Bucs. 00:38:23.679 --> 00:38:28.719 No, everybody had a had their fucking yellow and green dicks in their mouth right away, right afterwards, right? 00:38:28.800 --> 00:38:30.400 So it's like, whatever, they won the game. 00:38:30.480 --> 00:38:32.239 Like you got you gotta pick a lane here. 00:38:32.320 --> 00:38:33.920 I mean, I don't, but everyone else does. 00:38:34.159 --> 00:38:36.880 What diseases would make their dicks yellow and green? 00:38:37.599 --> 00:38:43.039 I don't know, but there's something in the fucking water up there in Green Bay, Wisconsin, a place I will never visit, because why would you go there? 00:38:43.199 --> 00:38:49.440 No, trust me, it's definitely so if it was if it was Bears Packers NFC title game, you wouldn't go there? 00:38:50.000 --> 00:38:52.800 Uh to Lambo Field to see the Bears. 00:38:53.039 --> 00:39:13.840 Um to your point though, about like how these teams win games in the like I think there is something a lot different for regular season games, and especially for these power rankings, that if you win your game in the playoffs, you're going on to the next round, the other team's gone. 00:39:14.079 --> 00:39:22.880 And yes, you can debate the quality of the win and what have you, but at the end of the day, if you win the last game of the year, you're Super Bowl champs, and that's all you can really be judged by. 00:39:23.119 --> 00:39:38.639 But for these regular season teams in these rankings, for the sake of saying which team is better, I mean, there is an ultimate goal to look at these rankings and say, this is who we think are the best teams in the NFL and who's gonna be the last men standing going into playoff time. 00:39:38.960 --> 00:39:39.599 Yeah, I think it's true. 00:39:39.679 --> 00:39:44.960 I mean, you aren't desperately trying to figure out who's good and who's not all all for the first like half of the season at the very least, right? 00:39:45.039 --> 00:39:46.639 Like it's you're it's a bit of a scramble. 00:39:46.719 --> 00:39:59.440 Aaron Powell Yeah, because these team records are gonna be kind of uh Fugazi in a way, with you know, I think the Vikings 5-0 record is just gonna be a total sham when they finish the year like eight and nine or whatever. 00:39:59.599 --> 00:40:08.960 Uh so I think the same thing applies for the Steelers that these you know that they're playing well, Aaron Rodgers playing great so far, but is his 89-year-old ass gonna keep up by week 17, 18? 00:40:09.039 --> 00:40:09.440 Probably not. 00:40:09.840 --> 00:40:10.960 And they're gonna look like shit by the end. 00:40:11.199 --> 00:40:15.599 I think he's gonna I think he's gonna have a renaissance here because he's told everyone this is it. 00:40:15.760 --> 00:40:16.400 You know what I mean? 00:40:16.480 --> 00:40:21.519 I I I think I and I hate the fucker, but he he does he does look pretty good. 00:40:21.760 --> 00:40:23.599 I do think you have to look at it in context. 00:40:23.679 --> 00:40:26.480 Like, I what if take both things, right? 00:40:26.800 --> 00:40:27.920 Take both scenarios. 00:40:28.079 --> 00:40:35.119 Like if you look at all the the situate, the whole situation on like why you think he might he might crap out or the Steelers might crap out, right? 00:40:35.280 --> 00:40:43.280 Injuries, his body being old, uh fossilized, corpsified, um, you know, these are all like easy things you can reach for. 00:40:43.440 --> 00:40:53.199 What I will say is having an offensive system guy in McCarthy, come coach an Aaron Rodgers team, a guy he knows how he plays. 00:40:53.360 --> 00:40:59.360 Like, I I don't know if there's a ton of gas in the tank, but with that combination, but it is a championship-winning combination. 00:40:59.519 --> 00:41:09.280 It is uh it is a combination that, yes, of course, not at his age now, but it they did play some pretty electric fucking football over the years in Green Bay, you know, as difficult as that is for me to admit. 00:41:09.440 --> 00:41:14.159 So, you know, can they go to the well for championship level? 00:41:14.320 --> 00:41:20.800 No, but I think 16th worst team in the NFL as uh at four and two across these many weeks is my only point. 00:41:20.880 --> 00:41:22.559 You know, I I just think yes. 00:41:23.039 --> 00:41:30.320 If it was a can they sustain it power rankings, if it was a what what were they, what we think the power rankings are gonna be in December power rankings, maybe. 00:41:30.480 --> 00:41:33.840 But as of right now, you're just going off the body of work, right? 00:41:33.920 --> 00:41:46.960 And and you know, if you're if you're taking and applying the context of what we thought they were gonna be coming into the year, at least some of it has to be what they are, which is a four and two team in a tough division playing good football. 00:41:47.039 --> 00:41:48.480 I that's

the only thing I'll say about it. 00:41:48.960 --> 00:41:55.920 So, do you know what's what's funny is uh I'm pulling up the ESPN power rankings, they have Pittsburgh at 17. 00:41:58.559 --> 00:41:59.440 That's funny. 00:41:59.599 --> 00:42:04.960 Um so Matt likes the Steelers more than ESPN and all the experts there. 00:42:05.039 --> 00:42:06.639 So super fair to the Steelers. 00:42:07.920 --> 00:42:14.400 I don't know why it needs to be said that way, but it actually it it sounds better for a podcast when you stand across the room and tap away from the microphone. 00:42:14.639 --> 00:42:15.199 I was celebrating. 00:42:16.639 --> 00:42:18.159 Next time I'll celebrate on camera, you're right. 00:42:18.239 --> 00:42:18.480 I'm sorry. 00:42:18.639 --> 00:42:19.119 Oh, yeah, yeah. 00:42:19.199 --> 00:42:21.119 Because ESPN is the end all and fucking be all. 00:42:21.280 --> 00:42:25.280 And you're if you're aligned with them, you're really aligned with the top sports minds in the world. 00:42:25.360 --> 00:42:28.159 Yeah, that's the rule that we're gonna go on here at our competing podcast. 00:42:28.480 --> 00:42:29.599 Talk my power racing. 00:42:30.719 --> 00:42:32.079 Oh man. 00:42:32.480 --> 00:42:33.280 Yeah, they suck though. 00:42:33.360 --> 00:42:35.760 They suck, and they don't take enough ivermectin, that's clearly the problem. 00:42:35.840 --> 00:42:37.440 And maybe if they took a little bit more, they'd be better. 00:42:37.519 --> 00:42:38.000 I don't know. 00:42:38.320 --> 00:42:39.599 Topical joke there, Matt. 00:42:39.679 --> 00:42:44.320 Uh it would be and I'm not, I don't want to put this into the universe, but let me just put this into the universe. 00:42:44.559 --> 00:42:53.119 It would be wild if McCarthy and Rogers uh won a championship uh for the team that they beat for that same championship 16 years ago. 00:42:53.280 --> 00:42:55.679 Yeah, that's there's there's something to that. 00:42:56.079 --> 00:42:56.559 Very good point. 00:42:57.519 --> 00:42:58.239 I mean that now. 00:42:58.559 --> 00:42:58.800 You know what? 00:42:59.199 --> 00:43:03.039 That sounds I don't know, maybe it's just like a dumb brain moment. 00:43:03.280 --> 00:43:05.519 Completely forgot they beat the Steelers together. 00:43:05.760 --> 00:43:06.719 Completely forgot about that. 00:43:06.800 --> 00:43:08.800 Just didn't cross my mind. 00:43:10.559 --> 00:43:16.079 I sometimes forget that Aaron Rodgers won a championship because he had so many years of just being really good and fucking irrelevant. 00:43:16.639 --> 00:43:20.000 Anti-science beat anti-consent, and it was uh it wasn't that close of a game. 00:43:20.320 --> 00:43:25.599 He shouldn't have actually uh neither of those teams actually should have been there if you look at the whole context of that Super Bowl. 00:43:25.679 --> 00:43:30.000 The Bengals were actually the best team in the uh AFC and Burger. 00:43:30.400 --> 00:43:30.880 Carson Palmer. 00:43:31.440 --> 00:43:35.119 Carson Palmer, I

mean, got hurt, got his leg absolutely pulverized that that season. 00:43:36.320 --> 00:43:37.599 Yeah, just exploded. 00:43:37.840 --> 00:43:39.119 And they went to the Super Bowl. 00:43:39.199 --> 00:43:44.079 And honestly, if you look at all the advanced metrics of that season, the the that was gonna be the Bengals year. 00:43:44.320 --> 00:43:51.679 And uh the Bears met the Packers in the NFC um championship game, and Jay Cutler quit and started riding the bike and smoking a cigarette on the sidelines. 00:43:51.840 --> 00:43:59.599 I blacked out so hard that I was screaming um uh 70% of the earth is covered by water, and the rest is covered by the Bears defense. 00:44:00.079 --> 00:44:01.519 At the commercial breaks, I'm told. 00:44:01.599 --> 00:44:02.000 I don't know. 00:44:02.079 --> 00:44:03.280 I don't I don't remember this. 00:44:03.440 --> 00:44:06.719 I was screaming at the television and I kind of came too and they had lost. 00:44:06.960 --> 00:44:12.239 Um, Cutler quit, obviously, and uh the rest is history, but yeah, it was a year. 00:44:13.840 --> 00:44:27.199 And I uh sorry, Matt and uh Zach, I just had to ask DK this one one last question about this because I did put this into the universe two years ago and I was like, I think Aaron Rodgers is gonna be the Steelers, and I put that out there and kind of wrecked his entire summer, and then it happened. 00:44:27.599 --> 00:44:34.000 If it's the Steelers versus the Bears in the Super Bowl, what happens if Aaron Rodgers is? 00:44:34.159 --> 00:44:35.039 Is that really a question? 00:44:35.199 --> 00:44:36.400 Is that really a fucking question? 00:44:36.639 --> 00:44:38.480 Or you ask me where my loyalties are gonna lie? 00:44:38.719 --> 00:44:39.039 No, no. 00:44:39.199 --> 00:44:42.960 What happens when Aaron What happens if Aaron Rodgers beats you again? 00:44:43.360 --> 00:44:56.000 I it the scenario you're painting to me right now is what if the Bears get to the Super Bowl and then the other side of that game is a 40-something year old Aaron Rodgers. 00:44:56.320 --> 00:44:59.679 I will fucking bite your hand off for that scenario, my friend. 00:44:59.760 --> 00:45:02.320 I would fucking love it if that was the case. 00:45:02.480 --> 00:45:05.199 If I could like, it doesn't matter that he's an old man. 00:45:05.280 --> 00:45:06.800 I still want that ass whooping back. 00:45:06.880 --> 00:45:08.000 I want it wouldn't happen. 00:45:08.239 --> 00:45:08.639 Wouldn't happen. 00:45:08.719 --> 00:45:10.559 Wouldn't that something I would even fucking entertain? 00:45:10.719 --> 00:45:11.280 Would not happen. 00:45:11.440 --> 00:45:12.880 Absolutely would not fucking happen in a minute. 00:45:13.119 --> 00:45:16.239 How miserable would you be to deal with if what I just said happened, happened? 00:45:16.400 --> 00:45:17.920 Um week after for the show. 00:45:18.159 --> 00:45:23.519 I mean, you'd have to, it would be probably miserable for Leah to organize my funeral arrangements, I guess,

from the suicide. 00:45:23.679 --> 00:45:25.199 I don't otherwise, like, I don't know. 00:45:25.280 --> 00:45:26.480 I wouldn't be that hard to deal with. 00:45:26.559 --> 00:45:27.440 I'd be dead. 00:45:27.760 --> 00:45:30.559 So um uh yeah, that's uh that would go. 00:45:30.800 --> 00:45:32.639 Don't fucking paint these pictures to me, please. 00:45:32.800 --> 00:45:34.159 I uh this is like very upsetting. 00:45:34.480 --> 00:45:37.039 The February 16th podcast is gonna be great. 00:45:38.000 --> 00:45:40.079 You just hear fucking undertaker bells. 00:45:40.239 --> 00:45:43.360 Um it's like, oh, the music's different. 00:45:44.719 --> 00:45:45.280 All right. 00:45:45.440 --> 00:45:48.079 Uh we've we've kind of jumped around all over the place. 00:45:48.159 --> 00:45:56.079 I think it's probably time we talk about this Pat Spears game, uh, a thing I wasn't necessarily looking forward to doing uh with the three of you, but I am gonna hand over hosting responsibilities now. 00:45:56.320 --> 00:46:02.719 Yeah, I don't know why you're not looking forward to this because uh uh I'm not gonna do what we do on Instagram or what we do in the in in the chat. 00:46:02.880 --> 00:46:05.760 I'm gonna be I'm just gonna be as honest as as I can. 00:46:05.920 --> 00:46:08.719 I was rooting for this game for the Super Bowl last year. 00:46:08.880 --> 00:46:13.920 These two quarterbacks are my favorite quarterbacks uh that come that that that that came out of that draft. 00:46:14.000 --> 00:46:17.039 Right now we have the Patriots at four and two, the Bears at four and two. 00:46:17.199 --> 00:46:21.280 Drake May had an abysmal first three games, and he's turned it on the last couple of games. 00:46:21.440 --> 00:46:29.519 Uh and Caleb recovered from his injury, came back, and beat the shit out of uh a terrible quarterback in uh the Falcons. 00:46:29.840 --> 00:46:33.760 So I I think Vegas has this right. 00:46:33.920 --> 00:46:36.000 Like right now, uh the Patriots are underdogs. 00:46:36.079 --> 00:46:37.519 Uh, I'm not gonna go to you, DK, first. 00:46:37.599 --> 00:46:38.480 I want I want to go to Matt. 00:46:38.559 --> 00:46:43.519 Matt, do you think that the Patriots are a worse team than the Bears? 00:46:43.840 --> 00:46:45.360 Should they not be favored in this game? 00:46:45.840 --> 00:46:48.719 Uh I think that the line is the accurate line. 00:46:48.800 --> 00:46:50.880 I think it should I think it should be Bears minus three. 00:46:50.960 --> 00:46:52.960 Um, not because I I don't think they're a better team. 00:46:53.039 --> 00:46:55.360 I think the teams are are shockingly evenly matched. 00:46:55.519 --> 00:47:00.880 Um but I think when you look at our injuries and you look at the offensive line, I think that's the right line. 00:47:00.960 --> 00:47:02.320 I'm I'm I'm nervous about this game. 00:47:02.400 --> 00:47:04.159 We're in Chicago, it's a Thursday night. 00:47:05.039 --> 00:47:09.039 Um, I think historically Drake has not performed that well

midweek, which is always fun. 00:47:09.119 --> 00:47:10.559 Uh it's a fun stat to look at. 00:47:10.639 --> 00:47:12.960 But uh I think it's a fair line. 00:47:13.039 --> 00:47:13.760 I think it's a fair line. 00:47:14.000 --> 00:47:15.119 I think the Bears look very good. 00:47:15.199 --> 00:47:16.400 I think they look very competent. 00:47:16.559 --> 00:47:19.599 I think they've got fingernails uh my hamstring hurts back. 00:47:19.760 --> 00:47:22.480 Um and I think that this is a real test for Drake. 00:47:23.280 --> 00:47:24.000 See, I didn't do that. 00:47:24.079 --> 00:47:24.880 I did not do that. 00:47:24.960 --> 00:47:30.559 Uh Zach, uh is is do you think based on everything that you've seen so far that uh that that that the line is right? 00:47:30.639 --> 00:47:33.440 We should be underdogs going into Chicago? 00:47:34.079 --> 00:47:39.199 Uh I think the old school logic is always that uh you give the home team for three points. 00:47:39.360 --> 00:47:43.840 It's not exactly the real logic, but that's just kind of the uh the saying there. 00:47:44.000 --> 00:47:47.440 So they kind of think it's like uh pick them at this point. 00:47:47.679 --> 00:47:56.719 Um I mean yeah, I if you were to tell me uh if you're to tell me hey, you have to pick one of these teams to be a favorite, yeah, I would say Chicago for sure. 00:47:56.880 --> 00:48:06.800 Uh getting the quarterback back, he's looked more I mean I know Drake May is Yeah, he's he's looked more electric out, I would say. 00:48:06.960 --> 00:48:09.280 Uh excellent, but electric electric. 00:48:09.760 --> 00:48:10.880 No, electric is well. 00:48:10.960 --> 00:48:12.800 Like, I mean, there's more exciting plays. 00:48:12.880 --> 00:48:24.960 I I feel like they I feel like Drake May still, even though he's played well these past few weeks, he's still trying to figure it out, and this is gonna be the first real test for him since looking like dog shit the first three weeks. 00:48:25.199 --> 00:48:30.079 Uh so I I mean that Chicago defense is is good as well. 00:48:30.239 --> 00:48:33.519 Like it's just not at you think that is he right now. 00:48:33.679 --> 00:48:35.360 You don't DK, you don't you don't think it's it's good? 00:48:35.599 --> 00:48:45.039 Is he right in saying that the Chicago defense is the first test as opposed to like Buffalo or the Buffalo is what week three or week four? 00:48:45.199 --> 00:48:46.480 No, week four week four. 00:48:48.320 --> 00:48:49.360 Early enough. 00:48:50.239 --> 00:48:52.239 Is the Bears defense defense? 00:48:53.199 --> 00:48:54.239 No, no, Bears defense is good. 00:48:54.400 --> 00:48:55.519 Buffalo's defense is horrible. 00:48:55.679 --> 00:48:57.360 No, no, the Bears defense is not good. 00:48:57.519 --> 00:49:00.719 We're we're riddled with injuries, uh, first and foremost. 00:49:00.800 --> 00:49:03.199 We have a lot of we have a lot of high profile injuries. 00:49:03.280 --> 00:49:06.719 Um we have four four very important starters out coming

into this. 00:49:06.880 --> 00:49:08.639 They're weird, is what they are. 00:49:08.719 --> 00:49:10.639 They're a strange defense, is what they are. 00:49:10.800 --> 00:49:21.920 They they Dennis Allen, I think, recognized the personnel that he was given both last season and this season, and there's just gaping, gaping holes in in our actual personnel room. 00:49:22.000 --> 00:49:34.880 I think what he does really well is he knows that if he teaches the right things and he goes for explosive defensive plays, that will paper over some of the every down cracks that the Bears have. 00:49:35.039 --> 00:49:44.800 I think one thing he's done really well efficiency-wise, is he somehow, and I'm not really sure how this how he did this, but it's some sort of reverse of the way Ben Johnson thinks about the offense. 00:49:44.960 --> 00:49:49.119 We somehow became the best third-down defense in football over the first uh six weeks. 00:49:49.280 --> 00:49:52.320 And you guys are actually the best third down offense in football. 00:49:52.480 --> 00:49:58.480 I don't know if you knew that, but that combination I think immediately favors you because I think it's a fake stat for the Bears. 00:49:58.559 --> 00:50:00.320 Like I think we I think we lucked into that. 00:50:00.400 --> 00:50:01.840 I don't know how we fucking started that. 00:50:02.000 --> 00:50:02.960 I really have no idea. 00:50:03.199 --> 00:50:10.159 Our entire secondary is made up of rookies and a clapped Jalen Johnson who just looks a shadow of his former self, and now we're hiding him. 00:50:10.239 --> 00:50:11.840 We hid him in the in the Falcons game. 00:50:11.920 --> 00:50:12.719 That's what we did. 00:50:12.960 --> 00:50:20.239 And anyone that thinks he just didn't have a bad game is realizing, is not realizing that we made the rookie safety just come and cover his side every single play. 00:50:20.559 --> 00:50:22.320 So it's not great. 00:50:22.480 --> 00:50:28.159 Um we can't get pressure on the quarterback with four guys, so I wouldn't worry that much about your O-line. 00:50:28.320 --> 00:50:31.840 I think you're gonna get a lot of encouragement, and Drake's gonna get a lot of time. 00:50:32.159 --> 00:50:35.280 Uh, I I'm very worried about the Chicago defense. 00:50:35.360 --> 00:50:36.960 Like, I really they give up a lot. 00:50:37.039 --> 00:50:43.840 They they statistically somehow have like slid into the middle ground in the NFL of like not looking entirely incompetent. 00:50:44.079 --> 00:50:47.519 But and they do we do get turnovers, which is nuts. 00:50:48.000 --> 00:50:51.920 I don't know, I don't know really how, but like we seem to just be riding a lot of luck in that regard. 00:50:52.000 --> 00:50:53.119 Like it just seems to work out. 00:50:53.440 --> 00:50:58.079 But and they are like you put the opposing team in a in a sh in a position where they only they can only throw. 00:50:58.159 --> 00:50:59.519 Like you know that they're gonna have to throw to the biggest. 00:50:59.679 --> 00:51:02.400 Yeah, but look look what we did when we did that to Green Bay. 00:51:02.639 --> 00:51:03.679 Like, it was bad. 00:51:03.840 --> 00:51:09.840 Like, uh, you guys have deep shot ability with AJ Brown, and I don't think he's gonna just like I don't think he just forgot how to catch the ball. 00:51:09.920 --> 00:51:13.119 I just think he was coming back from an injury and he like looked a little fucking rusty. 00:51:13.280 --> 00:51:19.119 Like, I'm really worried that he's just gonna murder us in in in the in in deep ball situations. 00:51:19.199 --> 00:51:25.760 And I think Drake, Drake Maya essentially, over the last season and a bit, has been the best deep ball quarterback in the NFL. 00:51:25.920 --> 00:51:27.280 So I'm entirely worried. 00:51:27.360 --> 00:51:34.719 Yeah, like I just watched this get fucking cut up by deep balls, and now this guy's fucking coming to town and he's pretty fucking good at him. 00:51:34.800 --> 00:51:35.840 So, like, yeah, not great. 00:51:36.000 --> 00:51:40.239 AJ Brown, best deep ball receiver in the NFL for for the you know the majority of his career. 00:51:40.400 --> 00:51:41.599 I don't, I don't know, man. 00:51:41.679 --> 00:51:43.440 It's not, it doesn't feel great. 00:51:43.760 --> 00:51:45.119 It really doesn't feel great. 00:51:45.360 --> 00:51:55.199 Um, there's one bright spot, and that's Kyler Gordoner, who I think is one of the more athletic players in the NFL coming back um after this weird foot thing that he had, and you know, three sacks of forced fumble. 00:51:55.360 --> 00:52:02.400 He looked fucking electric coming off the line and and blitzing, but uh, I mean, I I'm hoping my offense can score more points than your offense. 00:52:02.480 --> 00:52:03.440 That's that's what I'm hoping. 00:52:03.519 --> 00:52:06.079 That's that's my absolute fingers crossed situation here. 00:52:06.239 --> 00:52:08.800 I I don't think that the defense is gonna win us this game. 00:52:09.039 --> 00:52:16.800 Matt, how good are you feeling going into this uh game after a you know, just the eye test, like a a bad win against the Jets. 00:52:16.880 --> 00:52:19.519 Like again, Drake May did not have a great stats, right? 00:52:19.599 --> 00:52:25.119 But he the one thing that he did do that game was not turn the ball over, because if he had turned the ball over, we would have lost the fucking game. 00:52:25.199 --> 00:52:25.360 Right. 00:52:25.519 --> 00:52:28.719 So all he had to do was just play, you know, play a safe game that way. 00:52:28.800 --> 00:52:39.679 Uh, I guess my question is knowing what you what you know, Caleb goes 30 of 36 or 300-something yards and four touchdowns or three touchdowns against the Falcons, they can score at will. 00:52:40.320 --> 00:52:43.199 How worried are you about our offense being able to keep up? 00:52:43.440 --> 00:52:44.000 I am worried. 00:52:44.079 --> 00:52:44.639 I'm absolutely worried. 00:52:44.719 --> 00:52:47.920 I'm worried about Kyler

Gordon coming up the side and killing Drake. 00:52:48.079 --> 00:52:52.960 I'm worried about him having to improvise too much against uh you can you can insult your secretary you want. 00:52:53.440 --> 00:52:55.119 They're very fast, they fly across the field. 00:52:55.360 --> 00:52:57.360 I don't think that's very good when you have to be mobile. 00:52:57.440 --> 00:52:59.679 It's a Thursday night, it's a loud crowd. 00:52:59.920 --> 00:53:01.920 Um yeah, I don't feel good. 00:53:02.000 --> 00:53:02.800 I don't feel great about it. 00:53:03.039 --> 00:53:07.920 Um I I thought that um here's here's here's my real problem. 00:53:09.039 --> 00:53:12.960 Atlanta had a late push for uh some points that game. 00:53:14.239 --> 00:53:17.039 I'm not gonna say his name, I'm not gonna bring up Hanks, I promise. 00:53:17.199 --> 00:53:21.119 Um but 24 for 24 from a clean pocket for 250 yards. 00:53:21.440 --> 00:53:23.440 Um your boy Caleb's on fire right now. 00:53:23.599 --> 00:53:28.559 He looks uh like a like a beast, and the improvised plays where he has to get out of the pocket, those look good too. 00:53:28.719 --> 00:53:33.199 That makes me really nervous when our defense is is is damaged and I hate our offensive line. 00:53:33.360 --> 00:53:35.280 Like I really hate our offensive line. 00:53:35.440 --> 00:53:37.360 It drives me nuts watching them out there. 00:53:37.679 --> 00:53:39.840 I'm just I'm not I'm not very confident about this game. 00:53:40.480 --> 00:53:51.280 If I was gonna tell you my worry though, uh on the other side of the ball, honestly, it's it's it is that is because the the Patriots defenses looked incredibly competent over the first few weeks. 00:53:51.440 --> 00:53:54.159 They allow 18-ish points a game, right? 00:53:54.239 --> 00:53:55.519 Like that's really good. 00:53:55.840 --> 00:53:57.840 And it's essentially what the team's built on. 00:53:57.920 --> 00:54:01.599 I mean, what there's all this talk of Drake May, but it's Mike Vabel in a defensive team, right? 00:54:01.679 --> 00:54:03.519 Like that's what that's what your identity really is. 00:54:03.679 --> 00:54:08.559 Of course, the the narratives are going to be around Drake, and yeah, like you're gonna win and lose games at the quarterback position. 00:54:08.639 --> 00:54:09.199 I I get that. 00:54:09.280 --> 00:54:11.039 I'm not saying that that that's not important. 00:54:11.119 --> 00:54:15.039 I'm just saying that if like Christian Gonzalez is back, right? 00:54:15.199 --> 00:54:22.719 So you can put Caleb in a situation that honestly doesn't benefit him a lot of the time, and it's what Minnesota did. 00:54:22.800 --> 00:54:27.119 They can start to put pressure on him, which makes him drop back a little bit too much, hold the ball a little bit too much. 00:54:27.199 --> 00:54:30.639 This is still a quality in his game that I've that that's lurking around this season. 00:54:30.800 --> 00:54:32.480 24 out of 24 in a clean pocket. 00:54:32.559 --> 00:54:36.800 The

biggest thing I take from that, yes, great, unbelievable efficiency, 100% efficiency. 00:54:36.880 --> 00:54:38.800 He had 24 passes in a clean pocket. 00:54:38.880 --> 00:54:41.519 The Patriots are not going to give him 24 passes in a clean pocket. 00:54:41.599 --> 00:54:43.360 That is not on the fucking table on Thursday. 00:54:43.440 --> 00:54:44.639 It's just not going to happen. 00:54:44.960 --> 00:54:48.960 So if he takes the layups, if he remains patient, sure. 00:54:49.199 --> 00:54:55.840 But playing the Patriots defense on a short week and playing Atlanta and the way they looked, very different kettle of fish. 00:54:55.920 --> 00:55:01.039 Also, I think Christian Gonzalez is one of the better, if not the best, uh secondary players in the NFL. 00:55:01.119 --> 00:55:03.519 And he's gonna decide who to take off the field. 00:55:03.679 --> 00:55:06.239 And I think he's gonna not take Roma Dunze off the field. 00:55:06.320 --> 00:55:10.239 I think they're gonna be smart enough where he's gonna realize that he's gonna go cover Luther Burden. 00:55:10.320 --> 00:55:14.400 It's gonna be an incredible matchup, but I it's one that I don't think Burton's gonna win. 00:55:15.280 --> 00:55:18.159 Unless maybe you give him to him in the flats and let him make plays. 00:55:18.320 --> 00:55:18.719 We'll see. 00:55:18.880 --> 00:55:19.840 We'll see how it goes. 00:55:20.000 --> 00:55:26.480 But I there's to me, and this might just be worry on my part, but to me, there's just so many more ways New England can win this game. 00:55:26.559 --> 00:55:29.840 There's so many more things that can go wrong for Chicago, in my opinion. 00:55:30.079 --> 00:55:35.760 Our secondary, if say, for instance, right, like what's been Drake's big thing this year? 00:55:36.079 --> 00:55:37.519 If you can get to him, right? 00:55:37.679 --> 00:55:41.360 If you can get to him, you can sort of eliminate that the Patriots offense. 00:55:41.440 --> 00:55:43.440 He hasn't played well once once under a lot of pressure. 00:55:43.599 --> 00:55:49.920 Dennis Allen's big thing is he gets addicted to blitz if they start to work, and if they stop working, he still blitzes. 00:55:50.079 --> 00:55:56.559 And and I really feel like I've seen Drake achieve way wonderful things in that exact situation. 00:55:56.639 --> 00:55:58.880 And I'm just I'm just a little worried about that too. 00:55:59.119 --> 00:56:00.480 I get it because I play Madden. 00:56:00.559 --> 00:56:01.760 I get addicted to blitzing too. 00:56:01.920 --> 00:56:08.559 I totally understand what like what happens in your head when when you start just pressing blitz every time, like it's gonna work this fucking time, strip sack. 00:56:08.800 --> 00:56:09.760 But I don't know. 00:56:09.840 --> 00:56:12.559 I I I I appreciate the compliments, but I'm shitting myself. 00:56:13.360 --> 00:56:13.679 I'm out. 00:56:13.760 --> 00:56:15.039 You guys talk amongst yourselves. 00:56:15.920 --> 00:56:16.800 I got Ajina. 00:56:17.280 -->

00:56:20.079 But if we're gonna go coach versus coach, it's fucking Ben Johnson. 00:56:20.159 --> 00:56:21.760 I mean, he is like, come on. 00:56:21.920 --> 00:56:26.880 I love Raybell, and you know, again, we're seeing he would, but uh, it's fucking Ben Johnson. 00:56:27.039 --> 00:56:31.199 He has looked so confident in in these past couple weeks. 00:56:31.280 --> 00:56:34.880 Uh your quarterback goes 24 for 24 for a clean pocket, but that's amazing. 00:56:35.119 --> 00:56:36.079 He's not making mistakes. 00:56:36.639 --> 00:56:38.079 That goes to your offensive scheme. 00:56:38.400 --> 00:56:39.760 That is all planning and preparation. 00:56:40.000 --> 00:56:40.880 That's all that that is. 00:56:41.360 --> 00:56:47.039 Um so I think I give obviously uh Chicago the nod, or at least the the edge on the coaching decision. 00:56:47.119 --> 00:56:49.920 So scare me the most, Zach. 00:56:50.079 --> 00:56:51.519 Um I'll just throw this right to you. 00:56:51.679 --> 00:57:01.840 Uh the things that if we the things we don't do well is rush rush the passer, which as Matt and DK just pointed out, if if you give him a clean pocket, he's perfect. 00:57:02.320 --> 00:57:05.119 And we also don't protect the passer that well. 00:57:05.280 --> 00:57:13.840 So do you think that our strengths are bet like uh good enough to overcome uh our weaknesses against a really high powered offense? 00:57:15.280 --> 00:57:16.079 Ugh man. 00:57:16.159 --> 00:57:18.159 I mean are we a really high-powered offense? 00:57:18.239 --> 00:57:19.440 That's hard for me to accept. 00:57:21.119 --> 00:57:22.000 Accept it. 00:57:23.039 --> 00:57:32.559 Yeah, I if I were to pick one to be more concerned about in terms of like not getting the quarterback or protecting Drake May, definitely protecting Drake May is the issue right now. 00:57:32.800 --> 00:57:35.360 Well, they got three injuries on the offensive line last game. 00:57:35.519 --> 00:57:45.360 Uh it's just been rotating guys left, right, center, up, down, god knows who's maybe we'll have a tight end playing center this week at some point. 00:57:45.519 --> 00:57:46.159 Who knows? 00:57:46.320 --> 00:57:57.599 Uh, but that's that's definitely my bigger concern whether or not DK thinks that the uh the uh Bears defense is actually legit or not or good or not. 00:57:57.679 --> 00:58:08.960 I I still think when you have or even banked up, but regardless, I think when you have this many offensive linemen going through, it's it is a concern. 00:58:09.280 --> 00:58:13.199 Thankfully, they've actually looked pretty decent these past few weeks despite the injuries. 00:58:13.360 --> 00:58:16.800 I I guess it's because they're just not facing great defenses. 00:58:16.880 --> 00:58:17.599 I don't know. 00:58:17.760 --> 00:58:25.199 Um, but I mean you put they held up against Max Crosby, so whatever you want against the Raiders, they they they kept him in check. 00:58:25.280 --> 00:58:27.119 And I would say that that means that they did a pretty good job. 00:58:27.440 --> 00:58:32.320 And I and I'll say this about like the coaching matchups too, like because Matt brought it up. 00:58:32.639 --> 00:58:49.840 While I do think Ben Johnson is probably one of the more creative offensive minds in the NFL and a great offensive coach, and a lot of Patriots fans give Josh McDaniels a lot of shit and have for two decades, despite the fact they've won six Super Bowls in that time. 00:58:50.320 --> 00:58:55.840 I do think Josh McDaniels is extremely under what's that? 00:58:56.320 --> 00:58:57.840 He was there for three of them, but it's fine. 00:58:58.079 --> 00:58:59.039 Wasn't he like an assistant? 00:58:59.360 --> 00:59:00.320 He was like an assistant coach. 00:59:00.960 --> 00:59:01.519 Yeah, okay. 00:59:08.559 --> 00:59:08.800 Yes. 00:59:09.280 --> 00:59:15.280 The point being though is he's he's underrated in the sense of getting the most out of what he's given. 00:59:15.440 --> 00:59:23.360 And especially when there's injuries and they need to focus on certain players to make sure they don't ruin their day. 00:59:23.679 --> 00:59:28.480 Uh big example would be Aaron Donald in Super Bowl 53. 00:59:28.800 --> 00:59:31.119 You didn't hear his name pretty much at all. 00:59:31.360 --> 00:59:34.159 Um, but you know, it's not to say that it's perfect either. 00:59:34.239 --> 00:59:41.280 I mean, Miles Garrett had a billion sacks last year, but he also set the single season record in sacks last year as well. 00:59:41.440 --> 01:00:05.360 So uh, but it does always feel like when you feel like shit's gonna go sideways or there's gonna be some sort of issue that uh Josh McDaniel somehow cooks up something that is not necessarily some home run ball or crazy stat padding type of uh result, but more of just making sure it's it's uh it's cutting down on the potential disasters. 01:00:05.599 --> 01:00:08.239 I think I think you should be playing home run ball, to be honest. 01:00:08.719 --> 01:00:13.360 Our biggest issue, the biggest defensive issue the Bears have is we give up a shitload of explosive plays. 01:00:13.519 --> 01:00:24.079 Like we have the craziest, we have literally, if we kept the time of possession stats throughout the whole, like on average, throughout the whole rest of the season, we'd be number one in NFL history by like a million miles. 01:00:24.239 --> 01:00:32.400 Like it's we've had the we hold the ball for so long, and yet still we give up such crazy explosive plays that we let and yeah, we pulled the starters, like whatever. 01:00:33.280 --> 01:00:42.719 You know, this has been a debate in Bears' circles all week after the the Falcons mounted like a kind of whimpery comeback, but I got nervous, like I fucking sure shit cut the shits up me for sure. 01:00:42.880 --> 01:00:46.800 And I just I you know I think he should be making home run plays. 01:00:46.880 --> 01:00:50.559 I think the Bears have put enough on tape to say like we should be going for these fucking guys.

01:00:50.719 --> 01:00:56.880 That if he can do that with getting the ball out of Drake's hands relatively quickly, I think you could you guys can honestly slice us up. 01:00:57.039 --> 01:01:07.039 I I what I would watch for just for to give you guys a little perspective on because you haven't watched the Bears as closely as me, and I would love the you know similar insight on the on the other side. 01:01:07.360 --> 01:01:12.000 If you if we can establish the run early, I think you might be a little bit in trouble. 01:01:12.159 --> 01:01:25.519 I I I think if we if we like the Bears are number one running team in the NFL right now, I don't think Manungai is gonna play, which is big, but essentially the blocking for the run game for the Bears looks really, really competent. 01:01:25.599 --> 01:01:27.760 Like they really just look like they can run the ball. 01:01:28.079 --> 01:01:35.280 And if you can start to get us in second and long situations early, I think that's a really, really big um positive for you guys. 01:01:35.360 --> 01:01:45.760 I I think that's gonna be the main defensive game plan for Vrabel and the Patriots is stop the run because there's a little, you know, look at the left hand, look at the left hand with Ben Johnson where it's like, look at Caleb Williams. 01:01:45.840 --> 01:01:50.880 Like, look how many times he threw the ball against against uh Atlanta, look how good he was in the clean pocket. 01:01:51.039 --> 01:01:52.559 Everything we do is based on the run. 01:01:52.719 --> 01:01:54.480 Absolutely everything we do is based on the run. 01:01:54.559 --> 01:02:04.960 And like Caleb, he might be able to yank victory out of the jaws of defeat at at any given time if we can keep the game close, but we're not gonna convincingly beat you unless we can establish the run. 01:02:05.119 --> 01:02:11.119 And as much as I love Caleb Williams and I think he's a great quarterback, and I and I love that it's basically definitive now. 01:02:11.199 --> 01:02:17.199 And I was wondering if we were going to talk about this, but I love that it's basically definitive that there's two guys in that draft class and it's my guy and your guy, and I love that. 01:02:17.360 --> 01:02:18.079 I really do. 01:02:18.400 --> 01:02:25.360 But I think and whatever happens, Johnson builds his whole offense behind the run. 01:02:25.599 --> 01:02:27.280 So keep an eye on that early. 01:02:27.360 --> 01:02:29.440 I would say to Patriots fans, just keep an eye on that early. 01:02:29.519 --> 01:02:33.920 Longer second downs, longer third downs, that's a really, really good sign for New England. 01:02:34.000 --> 01:02:36.800 And that's when I start to get worried when I watch this Bears offense. 01:02:37.119 --> 01:02:44.880 Yeah, I was really gonna say, DK, my biggest concern was that if we if we can't force Caleb to throw, we're in trouble. 01:02:45.199 --> 01:02:56.559 Because one of the biggest pitfalls of the Patriots uh is our run defense is not good, but

we've been able to uh overcome that or just kind of mask it by the fact that we on offense uh recently have been scoring a lot of points. 01:02:56.639 --> 01:03:00.079 So other opposing offenses can't run against us, they have they have to throw. 01:03:00.239 --> 01:03:05.840 I mean, we were able to beat a pretty competent Raiders team with our starting four corners out. 01:03:06.079 --> 01:03:10.400 So I'm not worried about our our secondary for whatever reason they can figure that out. 01:03:10.480 --> 01:03:17.280 My big worry is our offensive line, our ability, inability to stop the rush, and then your X factor. 01:03:17.519 --> 01:03:20.400 I think your X factor outside of Caleb Williams is Luther. 01:03:20.639 --> 01:03:23.760 And I and he I don't know what the Patriots have. 01:03:23.840 --> 01:03:27.599 I don't like I would say, like, is Pop Douglas that on our side? 01:03:27.760 --> 01:03:28.000 I don't know. 01:03:28.079 --> 01:03:31.920 I think Lutheran, yeah, but I think Luther is a step above that. 01:03:32.159 --> 01:03:32.719 I agree. 01:03:32.880 --> 01:03:33.440 I agree with that. 01:03:33.679 --> 01:03:33.920 Yep. 01:03:34.159 --> 01:03:41.840 I would also take a look, also uh, you know, as you start to watch these drives unfold, and I'm sure we'll be like texting about it or whatever. 01:03:41.920 --> 01:03:45.760 And as much as everyone's hearing us talk right now, and it's like, oh, they're all being very reasonable. 01:03:45.920 --> 01:03:47.599 That's not how the group chat goes. 01:03:47.760 --> 01:03:55.920 So uh I don't know what changes the dynamic, but it just didn't basically stop talking to each other on on Monday nights after football week until until this show. 01:03:56.239 --> 01:03:59.920 Um yeah, unless there's like a funny meme about Caleb Williams that you want to send me. 01:04:00.000 --> 01:04:14.559 But um uh uh the important thing to I think watch out for is if we start to move the ball on you early, I wouldn't even get that worried because we have a really inefficient, surprisingly inefficient red zone offense um this season. 01:04:14.639 --> 01:04:17.599 I I think if you play Ben Don't Break, it might really work. 01:04:18.159 --> 01:04:27.119 Um that being said, like for all the the jokes and the backs and forths about uh the quarterbacks and everything, like Drake May is playing phenomenal football the last couple of weeks. 01:04:27.199 --> 01:04:32.960 I I did I I am so flabbergasted as to how they turned it around as quickly. 01:04:33.039 --> 01:04:44.719 And I think to Zach's point, McDaniels deserves a lot of credit there, but I I I don't know if I've ever seen a quarterback play as badly as he played for those couple of weeks and as well as he's been playing in such a in such a swift turnaround. 01:04:44.800 --> 01:04:47.599 And I think it's a it's a credit to the fact that he's gonna be around a while. 01:04:47.679 --> 01:04:54.239 Like I think he's he's they're gonna be debating who who would you have drafted, who if all things go according to plan, who would you have drafted for a while? 01:04:54.320 --> 01:04:56.079 And no one's saying Jaden Daniels anymore. 01:04:56.239 --> 01:04:57.119 So here we are. 01:04:57.280 --> 01:04:59.599 You know, I mean, a bit Bo Nicks is a meme. 01:04:59.760 --> 01:05:11.360 Uh it it's all reverted to the mean a little bit, and and I do I do like that these guys are gonna be inextricably linked forever, and I think that they're both hopefully have decently sized forever, if that makes sense. 01:05:11.519 --> 01:05:13.920 So I would love for this to be a Super Bowl preview. 01:05:14.159 --> 01:05:15.039 Let me ask you guys this. 01:05:15.119 --> 01:05:19.280 If this is their first time meeting in the pros, and like you said, this could be going on for the next 10, 15 minutes. 01:05:20.880 --> 01:05:21.760 First time meeting in the pros? 01:05:22.320 --> 01:05:28.239 No, the Patriots beat the uh beat the Eberflus um Bears uh their rookie year. 01:05:28.320 --> 01:05:30.320 They played the killer start that game? 01:05:30.880 --> 01:05:32.000 Uh yes. 01:05:32.320 --> 01:05:32.559 Yes. 01:05:32.880 --> 01:05:33.840 Did Drake play that game? 01:05:34.000 --> 01:05:35.679 I don't think one of them wasn't playing. 01:05:36.400 --> 01:05:37.119 Well are you sure? 01:05:37.360 --> 01:05:37.760 I think so. 01:05:38.719 --> 01:05:40.480 Right, because did I look it up, but continue time. 01:05:40.639 --> 01:05:41.840 We had Jacoby Brissett. 01:05:41.920 --> 01:05:46.639 We went we went because Drake made his first his his rookie year. 01:05:47.199 --> 01:05:47.760 Yep, that's right. 01:05:47.920 --> 01:05:53.199 So let me ask you this right now, as we stand right now that this early stage of their careers, who would you have drafted at the moment? 01:05:54.320 --> 01:05:54.639 Me? 01:05:55.599 --> 01:05:55.840 Everyone. 01:05:56.320 --> 01:05:56.880 I think that's the one. 01:05:58.400 --> 01:05:59.360 Nobody can say yeah. 01:06:00.239 --> 01:06:00.960 Has to say their guy. 01:06:01.360 --> 01:06:02.639 No, I would take Caleb at the moment. 01:06:03.599 --> 01:06:04.159 Interesting. 01:06:04.800 --> 01:06:05.760 I like the way he plays, man. 01:06:05.840 --> 01:06:08.320 I like that, I like that fast-paced fingernails flying in the air. 01:06:08.639 --> 01:06:08.960 I love that. 01:06:09.679 --> 01:06:13.360 You also like fingernails panic, so I'm not really sure that this is an added bonus. 01:06:13.440 --> 01:06:19.679 I I would say it's it's a toss-up, but it it's it's so much of a toss-up that I think you gotta take your quarterback. 01:06:20.000 --> 01:06:20.960 You know, like that's fair. 01:06:21.119 --> 01:06:28.800 Yeah, I wouldn't find it offensive if TK was like, you know what, I would take Drake, and I would say I would take Caleb because I think it's that that can that comparable. 01:06:29.360 --> 01:06:32.480 Caleb hasn't gotten that first three games of the season that we saw this year, though.

01:06:32.639 --> 01:06:34.480 You saw a crack in the phone in the foundation year. 01:06:34.639 --> 01:06:35.599 That made me a little nervous. 01:06:35.760 --> 01:06:40.079 Right now, probably I'd stick with Drake, but overall, he went two and ten his rookie year, dude. 01:06:40.159 --> 01:06:43.679 We we like he Yeah, well, one of those wins, I did just look it up. 01:06:43.840 --> 01:06:45.039 It was against the Bears. 01:06:45.119 --> 01:06:45.760 He did play. 01:06:45.840 --> 01:06:48.880 Uh he was 15 for 25, 184 with a touchdown and a pick. 01:06:48.960 --> 01:06:50.880 He also carried the ball four times for 24 yards. 01:06:50.960 --> 01:07:01.280 And Caleb, 16 for 30, 120 yards, no touchdowns, no picks, and was sacked nine times on his way to that uh most sacked ever rookie QB record that he still holds. 01:07:01.360 --> 01:07:04.480 So that's an everfused loss, not a Williams loss. 01:07:04.719 --> 01:07:05.360 Let's hope so. 01:07:05.440 --> 01:07:14.559 I will also say Caleb did not, maybe it was because he didn't have to, but he didn't scramble at all in the uh in the win against the Falcons, and I do think that that is hamstring related. 01:07:14.719 --> 01:07:22.960 So if that's something that's keeping him on a short week, if that's something, if that's a weapon he doesn't have, he was elusive, but he didn't scramble, if you know what I mean. 01:07:23.119 --> 01:07:28.800 Like he in situations where he had to not get sacked, which I will say, I mean, he's fucking hard to sack, dude. 01:07:28.880 --> 01:07:32.719 I hope this isn't a jinx, but goddamn, Caleb Williams is fucking hard to sack, bro. 01:07:32.880 --> 01:07:35.360 Like he's he's got some crazy elusive tendencies. 01:07:35.679 --> 01:07:43.360 Make sure you clip this uh for either one, either if he if he gets if he gets sacked 12 times or if we never sack him, that's the perfect clip. 01:07:43.599 --> 01:07:44.400 I know, I know. 01:07:44.480 --> 01:07:47.280 I don't I really don't want to have any influence over this game whatsoever. 01:07:47.440 --> 01:07:49.280 I just I want to be completely kept out of it. 01:07:49.360 --> 01:07:50.719 It's really the stakes. 01:07:51.039 --> 01:08:00.719 I I would be such a liar if I was not saying that the stakes are higher when playing the Patriots because I have to talk to three fucking Patriots fans every week about the fucking NFL, right? 01:08:01.280 --> 01:08:02.320 Your whole life, your whole life. 01:08:02.639 --> 01:08:05.599 Yeah, my entire life I've been surrounded by by the by you goons. 01:08:05.760 --> 01:08:23.840 So it's just it's the the fact of the matter is I've always liked being from New England and leaving gave me great clarity on the New England Patriots because what I did get to witness in the Brady Belichick era was greatness, and I know what I want my team to be uh striving for now. 01:08:23.920 --> 01:08:35.119 But what I need you guys to understand is that we're different, we're we're made of completely different football DNA because of what I've seen and what you've seen out of your team and my team respectively. 01:08:35.279 --> 01:08:37.439 I've seen nothing but trauma and damage. 01:08:37.600 --> 01:08:38.880 I come from a broken home. 01:08:39.039 --> 01:08:43.439 I I'm Eminem in the trailer in 8 Mile, and you're you know, you're living across. 01:08:43.520 --> 01:08:46.640 They didn't make a movie about you guys because it was too boring because everything went too well. 01:08:46.880 --> 01:08:51.119 So, like, I I'm just saying, like, I don't know how to deal with this. 01:08:51.279 --> 01:08:53.119 I don't know how to have the conversation. 01:08:53.279 --> 01:09:01.680 I I mean maybe I can pull from other teams in my life, and and I I know how to win in certain sports, but in football, I'm still waiting for the other shoe to drop, guys. 01:09:01.840 --> 01:09:07.600 Like, I'm still waiting for this of when when K I thought Caleb's hamstring was done, was actually his Achilles, and that was the season. 01:09:07.760 --> 01:09:12.560 The the yeah, a darkness and a sadness descended on me, and and hello, darkness, my old friend. 01:09:12.720 --> 01:09:15.119 But all I could think was like, of course, of course. 01:09:15.279 --> 01:09:17.600 I this is why I don't get to have nice things. 01:09:17.760 --> 01:09:22.319 So the idea that you know you're saying things like you have a high-powered offense, I'm like, shut up, dude. 01:09:22.399 --> 01:09:23.840 Like, what if God hears? 01:09:24.000 --> 01:09:25.199 He'll take it from me. 01:09:25.439 --> 01:09:28.000 So, like, I don't I don't know how to deal with this. 01:09:28.159 --> 01:09:29.119 So I really don't. 01:09:29.199 --> 01:09:36.560 I mean, I to the point where I was so defensive coming into this, I had so many mean things written down to say, and then you guys were generally sort of nice. 01:09:36.720 --> 01:09:39.039 So I don't like I don't know. 01:09:39.920 --> 01:09:44.399 So in that analogy, is that in that analogy is Rex Grossman your mom if you're Eminem? 01:09:45.039 --> 01:09:47.359 Uh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 01:09:48.960 --> 01:09:50.720 I I love I love thinking about him. 01:09:51.199 --> 01:09:54.319 I know that you said you don't want to have any uh any impact over this game. 01:09:54.560 --> 01:09:56.159 Uh uh and I appreciate that. 01:09:56.239 --> 01:09:57.680 So give me your prediction. 01:09:58.560 --> 01:10:06.319 Um I think it's gonna be I think it's gonna be Bears 38 and Patriots 31. 01:10:07.920 --> 01:10:16.880 Matt Patriots 21 Bears 38 Williams. 01:10:17.039 --> 01:10:19.119 Apparently he's having the worst day of the season so far. 01:10:19.359 --> 01:10:21.039 I think he's gonna be the name of both the boys. 01:10:21.520 --> 01:10:22.319 I mean, it is Thursday. 01:10:22.399 --> 01:10:25.279 You don't you have no idea what's gonna happen on a Thursday, that's the other thing. 01:10:26.319 --> 01:10:28.399 Uh 24-21 bears. 01:10:29.119 -->

01:10:29.520 Wow. 01:10:29.920 --> 01:10:31.760 Trying to reverse jinx it, I see you. 01:10:32.000 --> 01:10:35.680 Uh at 31-28 Patriots. 01:10:36.800 --> 01:10:38.560 That'd be a fucking thing. 01:10:38.640 --> 01:10:42.079 We're all predicting the most electric Thursday game of all time except for Matt. 01:10:42.319 --> 01:10:43.439 Or it's gonna be 9-6. 01:10:44.319 --> 01:10:44.960 Yeah, it is Thursday. 01:10:46.319 --> 01:10:46.640 I know. 01:10:46.960 --> 01:10:48.000 It will it will not be in between. 01:10:48.079 --> 01:10:50.960 It will either be the worst game ever or the most exciting game we've ever fucking seen in our game. 01:10:51.039 --> 01:10:55.600 It might be it might be nice for all of us if nobody leaves with bragging rights, like if everyone just plays like shit. 01:10:55.680 --> 01:10:57.840 It's like, alright, I hope the rest of the season goes well. 01:10:58.079 --> 01:11:04.319 It just like to that point about Mike about like being either like the high-flying best game or just like shit. 01:11:04.800 --> 01:11:10.239 It just really all comes down to how the offensive line is for mainly the Patriots, but I guess both teams. 01:11:10.479 --> 01:11:11.039 Both teams, right? 01:11:11.279 --> 01:11:11.439 Yeah. 01:11:11.840 --> 01:11:19.279 Because it if if Drake has time and is able to launch it down, uh I know you mentioned you know AJ Brown, best deep ball. 01:11:19.359 --> 01:11:29.439 But the like every thursday night always has weird shit, and there's always just the one Kyle Williams game, and this is gonna be the Kyle Williams getting a 69-yard touchdown, and it's just gonna be something stupid. 01:11:29.600 --> 01:11:36.479 Uh so I mean it could be a really high-scoring game if the offensive lines can keep it up, but I don't know. 01:11:36.640 --> 01:11:41.840 Just between injuries and all that, I just I'm really nervous that I don't want to be all hyped up for this game. 01:11:41.920 --> 01:11:44.560 This should this should have been a Sunday night game. 01:11:44.880 --> 01:11:47.359 Really should have been, and they put it on Thursday and it's sucked. 01:11:47.520 --> 01:11:48.079 On Monday. 01:11:48.239 --> 01:11:48.960 Yeah, that's true. 01:11:49.119 --> 01:11:51.039 I think it it does kind of suck that it's on Thursday. 01:11:51.119 --> 01:11:53.520 And I take every bear snap personally, so yeah. 01:11:53.680 --> 01:11:56.479 And like, I mean, they they they know what the schedule is. 01:11:56.640 --> 01:11:59.199 Well, they know who the opponents are beforehand. 01:11:59.359 --> 01:12:03.439 Like you would think that they would just throw, you know, Titans Jags on a Thursday or something. 01:12:03.520 --> 01:12:08.960 I know they but they also thought this was gonna be two good teams coming into the season and like playing relatively well. 01:12:09.119 --> 01:12:10.800 So it's like that's why they're doing it. 01:12:10.960 --> 01:12:11.199 Yeah. 01:12:12.560 --> 01:12:15.439 They're doing it for the sake of Thursday night football, which nobody wants. 01:12:15.600 --> 01:12:17.199 Nobody wants to such a waste. 01:12:17.279 --> 01:12:19.439 And no one hears at all. 01:12:19.680 --> 01:12:22.800 One more fun thing about the game, it's gonna be 60 degrees with a light breeze. 01:12:22.880 --> 01:12:25.520 So you're not getting any weather here to impact either guy. 01:12:25.600 --> 01:12:26.960 It's who's ready to go. 01:12:27.279 --> 01:12:32.000 This might be the last time that the Patriots play the Bears in Chicago. 01:12:32.239 --> 01:12:33.840 It might be in Indiana next time. 01:12:34.560 --> 01:12:38.800 Oh, well, I wonder, I was wondering if an Indiana uh reference was gonna come limping over the horizon. 01:12:38.880 --> 01:12:41.279 I think that's it for uh I turn it back over to you, DK. 01:12:41.359 --> 01:12:42.640 Yeah, thank you so much. 01:12:42.960 --> 01:12:44.560 What mean stuff did you have written down? 01:12:44.720 --> 01:12:49.039 Yeah, uh I can go where's my head? 01:12:49.600 --> 01:12:50.319 I got one right here. 01:12:50.399 --> 01:12:53.359 I said I said that the blue better have might all in it for Caleb. 01:12:53.520 --> 01:12:55.119 Um you said that out loud. 01:12:55.359 --> 01:12:56.399 But nobody heard it. 01:12:56.720 --> 01:12:57.760 I didn't hear it. 01:13:00.479 --> 01:13:03.199 My head my headphones are smaller than yours, Mike, so I didn't hear it. 01:13:03.520 --> 01:13:05.920 Where are my notes? 01:13:06.079 --> 01:13:06.880 Give me a second. 01:13:07.199 --> 01:13:07.840 That's fine. 01:13:08.079 --> 01:13:11.520 I love watching this humility on Dave because I know he's blood in this situation before. 01:13:11.600 --> 01:13:12.399 This is a beautiful thing. 01:13:12.560 --> 01:13:18.079 I had this this is a little a little uh you guys said a lot of my things, which was kind of surprising. 01:13:18.159 --> 01:13:22.079 But I um I had why are you why is your team three and my team is seven? 01:13:22.159 --> 01:13:23.920 Both are four and two, and Vegas has me favored. 01:13:24.079 --> 01:13:29.119 And then you started with the with the thing, so I was gonna start off aggressive, but it didn't it didn't work out that way. 01:13:29.279 --> 01:13:33.359 Um, and I was gonna say something along the lines of congratulations on Drake's six game volume stats. 01:13:33.439 --> 01:13:34.319 Caleb missed three games. 01:13:34.399 --> 01:13:38.319 We can't compare them because I thought maybe Mike was gonna talk about overall numbers, which he didn't do. 01:13:38.560 --> 01:13:41.760 Um I had May had six interceptions in his first three games. 01:13:41.840 --> 01:13:43.600 Like, that's a fucking clown show. 01:13:43.760 --> 01:13:44.560 I had that. 01:13:44.720 --> 01:13:48.800 Um I said that I had the 24 for 24 from a clean pocket thing. 01:13:48.880 --> 01:13:49.680 Then Matt brought it up. 01:13:49.760 --> 01:13:50.479 That was annoying. 01:13:50.640 --> 01:13:54.079 Uh I had the Bears are better on third down on both sides of the ball. 01:13:54.159 --> 01:13:56.560 That was gonna be a that was gonna be a declarative statement. 01:13:56.640 --> 01:13:58.239 Um, but I didn't really have to defend them. 01:13:58.399 --> 01:14:00.880 You guys were like, I don't know, I don't know how it's gonna go. 01:14:01.119 --> 01:14:10.399 Um and then uh I had you're about to play the number one rushing offense with a damaged offensive line on the other side, which uh didn't need to say because you guys are being nice. 01:14:10.640 --> 01:14:18.000 Um and then I was ready for I think Matt to say that the four and two is fraudulent because Bajan and Keenum won two games. 01:14:18.159 --> 01:14:23.600 And I was gonna say that's actually an argument for Ben Johnson, and then Matt made that point, which uh was annoying. 01:14:23.760 --> 01:14:28.560 And then if they bring up Green Bay, I was ready to be like, yeah, we got fucking murdered, and then my quarterback came back. 01:14:28.720 --> 01:14:29.920 I was ready to say that. 01:14:30.079 --> 01:14:47.039 Uh and I was gonna say um uh a whole thing about how if the draft happened again today, uh I might take Caleb Williams first, but Drake would hope that I would take him because of what a dumpster fire the Patriots organization has been since he got drafted, which would have been too mean. 01:14:47.119 --> 01:14:48.720 So I'm glad I didn't say that. 01:14:48.960 --> 01:14:50.319 Um there you go. 01:14:50.560 --> 01:14:53.520 That was that that was my mean things that I had that I didn't say. 01:14:53.600 --> 01:14:54.640 So McLamore. 01:14:55.760 --> 01:14:58.479 Um McLamore. 01:14:58.720 --> 01:15:02.319 Um, yeah, I mean, listen, this was a really fun power ranking show. 01:15:02.399 --> 01:15:04.640 I always love when we get uh the four of us together. 01:15:04.800 --> 01:15:06.800 Nice little mini MTP Boston embedded in there. 01:15:06.960 --> 01:15:08.560 Glad that you guys had me on that show. 01:15:08.720 --> 01:15:09.920 Thank you so much for the invite. 01:15:10.159 --> 01:15:12.640 And uh yeah, Bears Patriots Thursday night. 01:15:12.720 --> 01:15:17.439 I'll get this show out as soon as I can so that it has a little time to marinate and um good luck. 01:15:17.600 --> 01:15:18.800 May the best man win. 01:15:18.960 --> 01:15:19.920 I don't mean that. 01:15:20.000 --> 01:15:28.800 And uh, you know, that's a good idea.