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Tom: I'm secretly hoping that they might backtrack on all that crazy end of internal combustion stuff because the Chinese are completely eating their lunch when it comes to making electric cars. So basically the entire European car industry is just going to disappear if they carry on with that. But who knows they haven't backtracked yet.
Stu: In that vein, I was reading an article about Porsche yesterday and obviously they went heavily into electric and McCann's only electric now and everything else. And then it was saying just because the revenue has plummeted in the last 18 months, and now the long-term view is, okay, focus on the 911 and it's petrol, it's internal combustion. Those are the two things that they're trying to dial back in on. where if you go three or four years ago, it's like, okay, we're getting rid of everything. There's no more Dino Juice and that's it. Crazy.
Tom: Yeah. And I mean, and I'm not, I'm not against EVs. I've, I've, I was an early adopter of EV. We've got a Tesla six years ago, and we've still got it. And it's been a good car. You know, and if you're a two car family and you have your own driveway, I would, I would say to anybody, get an electric car, you know, especially now the price of fuel, God, you know, it's, it's a godsend having, having an electric, but, At the same time, just think it's like there's different jobs and there's different tools for different jobs and there's still going to be a need for petrol and diesel, especially diesel, for years and years to come. And I just don't think they've really grasped that.
Krabby: I don't know on the diesel side. No, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, you can go.
Tom: yes, it's that delay. If you if you're like towing and you've got an electric vehicle, even something crazy like that Rivian that's got like a what is it got 150 kilowatt battery or something, which is like two Tesla Model 3s. Even that you put a big trailer behind that. It's not going to go very far. And so, yeah, they're just not. You're certainly not going to be doing the trip I did into Morocco anytime soon in something like that. So that and for heavy haulage and all the rest of it, I just don't think that electric is the answer. But I meant to ask Lynn actually about the fuselage and whether anything was happening
Stu: Bye, Jijin.
Tom: with that. I should have done. Yeah, I might WhatsApp her and ask her that question. You know, are they still? thinking about it, what's happening.
Stu: The last we heard was they were talking to Cherry about co-manufacturing, which ironically is
Tom: Yeah.
Stu: who Land Rover uses. Isn't that right, Crappy? Yeah.
Krabby: Yeah, for the the rebirth of the Freelander.
Stu: Yeah. So they
Tom: Hmm.
Stu: were actively looking into it because it is a large market and it's very untapped. whole, it's cool to drive an off-roady sort of thing is in its infancy in China, apparently. And that was something when we spoke to that they were putting a lot of energy into that market. I don't know if that's still the case, but there we have it.
Tom: Yeah, I'll ask the question.
Krabby: I I think in an ironic in an ironic connection to all this, and again hopefully we get this out soon so it's not too stale when it gets there, but last weekend's F one in Malaysia was the first time that that the the current cars were running the wet and they all shut down. The actually the entire grid needed to come into the pits for a an over the air software update to the F one cars. So they can be used in the rain. It was chaos. It was absolute chaos. All because of electronic sensors and hybrids and and all that. And now F one's ready to go back to V eight. Because it's just
Stu: Yay.
Tom: Yeah.
Krabby: stupidly complicated.
Tom: I know I was browsing Auto Trader this week and I noticed that there's a Caterham 7 for sale at a garage just up the road. And I don't know if you guys know what that is, but I was, I might just go and test drive it because you don't really get a more simple analog car than that. And it's probably a lot of fun, but I've never driven one.
Stu: 100 %
Tom: So maybe I'll hate it. Maybe I'll hate it.
Stu: Yeah, it's nice
Krabby: Yeah, I've only seen pictures of those. I've never seen one in person. Same thing with a Morgan. I've never seen a Morgan in person. but yeah,
Stu: Really?
Krabby: basically No, where where around you spin in my house. Where around here would someone have a Morgan?
Stu: I have no idea. There's some
Krabby: We have termites around here. You couldn't
Stu: right weirdos. They're perfect for driving Morgan. My favorite Morgan's a three-wheeler. That thing's epic. It's got a Harley engine at the front. I love those things. I'd love to drive
Krabby: Yeah, that that yeah.
Stu: one around here, but the quality of driving's so appalling that it's, no thank you.
Krabby: I I'd be worried about termites.
Tom: Yeah.
Stu: Yeah, they don't like ash.
Krabby: They're still made out of wood.
Stu: They don't eat ash. They go for
Krabby: okay.
Stu: pine.
Tom: Yeah, well
Krabby: Okay, okay.
Tom: the catering is not wooden. It's a 1950s
Krabby: No, I
Tom: design I think, but it's not wooden. Yeah, they're supposed to be a lot
Stu: Yeah, was Lotus 7.
Tom: of fun. Yeah.
Stu: I've never seen anybody drive a catering without a grin on their face. Whether that's
Tom: Hmm.
Stu: like happiness or just abject fear or something in between it. I mean, it could be either. Right.
Tom: Yeah, I the new ones, I mean, the one I was looking at is like a, I think late, late nineties one. But the, the new ones, there's one that's the latest one, I think is like, I think it's like 650 brake per ton, you know, just insanely fast.
Krabby: Wow. Yeah.
Stu: There's very little touchism on that, yeah. It's like those guys in aerial atoms.
Tom: Yeah.
Krabby: That is a cool looking vehicle. The the nomad, the one that you can take off road is amazing looking.
Tom: Sorry, I was distracted there. My daughter's just sent me a picture of a dead stout
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on the lounge floor, which the cat has obviously brought in.
Stu: lovely you've got a murder cat as well brilliant ours brings him rats
Tom: Yeah we've had rats, we've had rabbits. I think that's the first stote actually. yeah, there you go. Crabby won't know what a stote is.
Stu: There go, well, that's for dinner.
Krabby: I was just okay, but but I do, and here's why.
Stu: Chuck it in the pot.
Krabby: It in i the typical fashion of this wonderful podcast. So there is a a Jim Henson Christmas special that comes out, you know, it it comes out every December. And it's called and I don't know if you've ever heard of it, it's called Emmett Otters Jug band Christmas. And it's Kermit the Frog introduces it and this is a little basically the gift of the magi version, but you know, told and there's a guy in there that I always thought was a bear. And we looked him up one day and it said he was a stoat. And I'm like, What the hell's a stoat? So I did look it up. And for everybody else it's like a little fuzzy creature. but yeah, we don't use that word. I don't know if we actually have them in America.
Tom: I don't think you do. It's like a... What do you have that's like that? You have pole cats, don't you?
Krabby: yeah.
Stu: Yeah, we've got Menk as well.
Krabby: Yeah. and we have ferrets. And ferrets.
Tom: Yeah, Polkats and Mink. Yeah, it's like a small ferret. Yeah.
Krabby: Yeah. Right. People knows what those look like. But yeah, I had no idea that this character in the show, which I've watched every winter since I was probably four years old, always thought he was a bear. Always thought he was a bear. And then
Stu: Wow, you must really like that show.
Krabby: my God, it's the best. And for anyone who's never seen it, it's the best.
Stu: I, it's never been on my radar. I'll check it out. It's Christmas is around the corner. I'll definitely make
Krabby: It is, it is.
Stu: the kids watch it and they'll be like, dad, why are we watching this olden times thing is the official one now.
Krabby: No, your kids will love
Tom: like they do
Krabby: it.
Tom: with every old classic film. I tried to get my kids to watch The Goonies, This is Rubbish. I tried to get them to watch Indiana Jones, Indiana Jones, This is Rubbish.
Stu: my god. Yep.
Krabby: my god Ugh.
Tom: They don't have any attention span these days, that's the problem.
Krabby: No, they don't.
Stu: One of the final things from me on this is I was out the other day. I've got a 10-year-old and a six-year-old and a mobile phone went off. It started ringing. And the eldest one, the 10-year-old, looked at me and said, what's that, Dad? And the guy went over, took his phone out of his bag, and it was the old Nokia Ring phone from the 90s. Obviously, he had an Apple phone or something. And he looked at me and then people were looking around and everyone was sort of like middle-aged or older and they're like, my gosh, yes, we are really old. And I told him, said, hey, that's what phones sounded like in the olden days. And just before that, it sounded like a bell ringing. And the look on his face is like, whoa,
Krabby: It literally was a bell ringing.
Stu: okay.
Krabby: Yeah. Yep.
Tom: Yeah, it's funny. It's funny how things have changed.