Pełna transkrypcja odcinka FKN Classics Double Feature! | Steve Colbern - Alien Implants | Wayne Steiger - Consciousness

working with 36 00:02:35.919 --> 00:02:40.159 these carbon nanotubes that could possibly also be part of 37 00:02:40.199 --> 00:02:44.159 the technology being used in the implants you researched. Did 38 00:02:44.199 --> 00:02:51.199 you start doing your research, you know, because of these occurrences. No. 39 00:02:51.960 --> 00:02:55.719 I happen to be working on carbon nanotubes at my 40 00:02:55.759 --> 00:02:59.439 old job and we worked on those for about seven years, 41 00:02:59.479 --> 00:03:03.439 and I have several patents in the carbon downitube field, 42 00:03:04.759 --> 00:03:08.479 and it was just kind of a synchronicity that it 43 00:03:08.520 --> 00:03:14.840 turned out that the alien devices apparently utilized carbon downtube electronics. 44 00:03:15.599 --> 00:03:19.080 That's something that we're working on in birthly science but 45 00:03:19.159 --> 00:03:21.719 have not perfected yet. But apparently it's a old technology 46 00:03:21.800 --> 00:03:27.159 to them, and the carbon downtube electronics would be faster 47 00:03:27.360 --> 00:03:30.639 and more robust, and the silicon electronics that we use 48 00:03:32.719 --> 00:03:36.560 there are three D networks of carbon. Unity was built 49 00:03:36.639 --> 00:03:37.319 right into the metal. 50 00:03:37.319 --> 00:03:43.240 Apparently very interesting. Now, do you remember any of your 51 00:03:43.919 --> 00:03:50.240 maybe your first contact experience. How old were you and 52 00:03:50.759 --> 00:03:52.199 could you tell us a little bit about it. 53 00:03:53.479 --> 00:03:56.520 The first thing I remember was was seeing a UFO 54 00:03:56.719 --> 00:03:59.120 hovering over my parents' house when I was five years old, 55 00:04:00.159 --> 00:04:05.400 like a fairly small scout craft, maybe fifty feet in diameter, 56 00:04:05.560 --> 00:04:08.520 hovering right a bread at rooftop level. And that was 57 00:04:09.000 --> 00:04:13.000 maybe four o'clock in the morning, before sunrise. And then 58 00:04:13.039 --> 00:04:15.319 I blocked out and woke up like four hours later 59 00:04:15.479 --> 00:04:18.079 with blood all down in front of me and remembered 60 00:04:18.279 --> 00:04:23.639 somebody putting something up my nose. And Willie Streeber described 61 00:04:23.839 --> 00:04:27.160 a similar experience in the book Communion, and I think 62 00:04:27.160 --> 00:04:30.399 that's standard procedure for abductees to have an implant put 63 00:04:30.439 --> 00:04:31.920 in at that age. 64 00:04:33.160 --> 00:04:38.360 It's very interesting. Now, do you have any other memories 65 00:04:38.399 --> 00:04:40.160 of any experiences after that. 66 00:04:42.639 --> 00:04:46.120 Yeah, I remembered a few things spontaneously and a lot 67 00:04:46.160 --> 00:04:49.040 more under hypnotic regression after I found out for sure 68 00:04:49.120 --> 00:04:51.680 that this was going on, after I met doctor Lear. 69 00:04:52.560 --> 00:05:03.439 And it's a lot of really strange stuff. It's it's 70 00:05:03.279 --> 00:05:05.920 it's no wonder that that people are having trouble believing 71 00:05:05.920 --> 00:05:09.480 in all this because it's completely counter what we're taught 72 00:05:09.560 --> 00:05:14.120 in school about. You know, aliens can't possibly be coming here, 73 00:05:14.199 --> 00:05:15.920 it's too far away and all that sort of thing, 74 00:05:15.959 --> 00:05:18.000 and apparently they are. 75 00:05:18.920 --> 00:05:24.079 Were your experiences, would you say a positive nature or 76 00:05:24.600 --> 00:05:27.680 do you think they had possibly malevolent purposes? 77 00:05:29.360 --> 00:05:33.199 I wouldn't say my experiences have been malevolent or or 78 00:05:33.319 --> 00:05:37.920 or completely negative. But there's like a lots of control 79 00:05:38.000 --> 00:05:41.079 and inherent in it because they use they do what 80 00:05:41.120 --> 00:05:43.279 they do what they want with you, as if you're 81 00:05:43.279 --> 00:05:48.240 an experimental animal, and they they use mind control, and 82 00:05:48.279 --> 00:05:52.360 it just it just introduces a strange feeling of a 83 00:05:52.439 --> 00:05:55.519 loss of control that's really disturbing. A lot of people 84 00:05:55.560 --> 00:05:56.439 have commented on that. 85 00:05:58.079 --> 00:06:00.839 Do you have any memories of being taken on a craft? 86 00:06:03.240 --> 00:06:08.360 H yeah, most of them have recovered under regression, but 87 00:06:08.360 --> 00:06:10.480 but yeah, I've got some memories of being on board, 88 00:06:11.199 --> 00:06:16.319 and yeah, my memories are pretty pretty similar to a 89 00:06:16.360 --> 00:06:21.079 lot of other abductee reports, especially I really related to 90 00:06:21.920 --> 00:06:25.839 Katherina Wilson's book I Forgot What I was supposed to 91 00:06:25.920 --> 00:06:33.439 remember and Alien Jigsaw, if readers or listeners want to 92 00:06:33.480 --> 00:06:36.839 read those, that pretty much sums up a lot of 93 00:06:36.839 --> 00:06:39.839 my experiences too. Of mine were very similar to hers. 94 00:06:40.560 --> 00:06:44.000 Now, do you know what types of beings that you 95 00:06:44.040 --> 00:06:45.160 were interacting with? 96 00:06:48.519 --> 00:06:51.759 The standard grays that most people report as the ones 97 00:06:51.800 --> 00:06:56.199 i've are the ones I've mostly seen, but I remembered 98 00:06:56.240 --> 00:06:59.439 under regression seeing some tan grays on board an alien 99 00:06:59.720 --> 00:07:03.959 mother at one point the ones that were on Willie 100 00:07:03.959 --> 00:07:05.319 Streemer's book cover. 101 00:07:07.560 --> 00:07:11.319 Now let's get back to your first end plant. Can 102 00:07:11.360 --> 00:07:14.519 you tell us about that experience, how that came about? 103 00:07:15.879 --> 00:07:17.040 First actual removement? 104 00:07:18.279 --> 00:07:21.439 Yeah, I well, how it was put in is I 105 00:07:22.720 --> 00:07:25.959 was at my house watering the plants and taking care 106 00:07:25.959

--> 00:07:30.800 of the place after work. My wife was at her 107 00:07:30.839 --> 00:07:34.519 parents' house after my daughter was born, and she'd was 108 00:07:34.560 --> 00:07:36.879 staying there for a while to have her mom help 109 00:07:36.920 --> 00:07:45.360 her out with the baby, and I called her up 110 00:07:45.399 --> 00:07:46.600 until her I was going to spend the night at 111 00:07:46.600 --> 00:07:49.319 the house because I was getting tired, and I heard 112 00:07:49.319 --> 00:07:51.480 some noises in the backyard. Went out in the backyard 113 00:07:51.480 --> 00:07:55.600 and there were these two huge raccoons out there, and 114 00:07:56.079 --> 00:07:58.560 one was about fifty pounds. Every one was about seventy pounds, 115 00:07:58.600 --> 00:08:01.240 and I didn't even know they got that big, so 116 00:08:01.319 --> 00:08:04.839 that was pretty surprising, and I it seemed fairly tame. 117 00:08:04.959 --> 00:08:06.680 So I put some food out there for them so 118 00:08:06.720 --> 00:08:09.160 they wouldn't need our avocados, and they were in our 119 00:08:09.160 --> 00:08:13.519 avocado tree. And I watched the animals for a while 120 00:08:13.560 --> 00:08:18.199 and then went in and went to bed. And when 121 00:08:18.240 --> 00:08:20.120 I woke up, there has been a lot of strange 122 00:08:20.120 --> 00:08:22.360 stuff going on prior to that, and when I woke up, 123 00:08:22.399 --> 00:08:24.399 I just realized that the aliens had been there. And 124 00:08:24.439 --> 00:08:26.040 I had a pain in the side of my head 125 00:08:26.079 --> 00:08:30.279 and a stinging pain in my left second toe, and 126 00:08:30.480 --> 00:08:32.240 I looked at my toe. There are two puncture wounds 127 00:08:32.279 --> 00:08:36.600 there that disappeared within a few hours, and the two 128 00:08:36.639 --> 00:08:42.200 puncture wounds lit up green under ultraviolet light, and so 129 00:08:43.679 --> 00:08:47.080 the stinging pain got worse and became an electric shock 130 00:08:47.159 --> 00:08:51.000 type pain that went all about all the way up 131 00:08:51.039 --> 00:08:54.480 my leg. About four days after the incident, every time 132 00:08:54.519 --> 00:08:58.559 I put some weight on that toe, and so I 133 00:08:58.600 --> 00:09:02.519 went over to see doctor Lear and I told him 134 00:09:02.519 --> 00:09:04.240 that to possibly alien implant. 135 00:09:04.320 --> 00:09:07.519 And how did you How did you get into contact 136 00:09:07.600 --> 00:09:08.639 with the doctor Lear? 137 00:09:09.639 --> 00:09:13.000 Well, it was a synchronicity too. He worked only a 138 00:09:13.039 --> 00:09:17.440 few blocks from where I worked in Camrio, California, and 139 00:09:17.679 --> 00:09:20.320 I had been following his research for a long time. 140 00:09:21.840 --> 00:09:23.759 Then all of a sudden, got an implant myself and 141 00:09:23.799 --> 00:09:27.639 decided to go over and see him. And I don't 142 00:09:27.639 --> 00:09:29.200 think he believed me at

first, but he gave me 143 00:09:29.240 --> 00:09:32.039 a prescription to you to get the toe x ray. 144 00:09:32.120 --> 00:09:36.000 And the prescription said give a copy of the patient. 145 00:09:36.080 --> 00:09:37.639 So they gave me a copy of this X ray 146 00:09:37.679 --> 00:09:41.840 and I knew intuitively I was going to see something, 147 00:09:41.919 --> 00:09:44.759 but when I did, it would just that blew me away. 148 00:09:44.759 --> 00:09:46.679 I mean, there's a heck of a difference between, like 149 00:09:46.720 --> 00:09:48.519 I always said, there's a heck of a difference between 150 00:09:49.879 --> 00:09:53.039 strongly suspecting that something like this occurs and knowing for sure. 151 00:09:54.799 --> 00:09:57.320 The object looked like a bent piece of wire in 152 00:09:57.320 --> 00:10:02.080 my toe, and it was actually the image on the 153 00:10:02.080 --> 00:10:04.639 extra was actually smaller then it turned out to be 154 00:10:04.679 --> 00:10:06.320 in real life, which was strange. 155 00:10:07.799 --> 00:10:10.679 Interesting now, how did the removal process go. 156 00:10:13.480 --> 00:10:18.320 It went pretty well, it turned out, but the object 157 00:10:18.360 --> 00:10:21.440 was brittle and it broke into twelve pieces on removal. 158 00:10:21.600 --> 00:10:25.720 They instead of cutting it out, they tried to go 159 00:10:25.759 --> 00:10:27.480 in through the side of the toe and pull it out, 160 00:10:28.120 --> 00:10:30.799 and the object was brittle and broken to several pieces. 161 00:10:30.840 --> 00:10:32.799 But that turned out to be a good thing because 162 00:10:32.799 --> 00:10:35.360 it gave us some views of the interior without us 163 00:10:35.360 --> 00:10:42.480 having to cut the object up. And one weird thing 164 00:10:42.600 --> 00:10:47.559 is that all the pieces arranged themselves in their original 165 00:10:47.720 --> 00:10:51.919 order when doctor Lear had a stored in blood serum. 166 00:10:52.519 --> 00:10:58.799 That was really remarkable. We've got pictures of that. And 167 00:10:58.840 --> 00:11:01.279 he gave me two pieces of the object to run 168 00:11:01.320 --> 00:11:03.559 a series of tests on. I did light my cross 169 00:11:03.679 --> 00:11:09.159 could be scanning, electronic cross could be and ed X 170 00:11:09.240 --> 00:11:15.559 BOLK elemental analysis UH and ic PMS trace element analysis. 171 00:11:15.200 --> 00:11:15.600 And. 172 00:11:17.159 --> 00:11:24.320 We did. We did the magnetic testing and Geiger counter 173 00:11:24.440 --> 00:11:27.279 testing and turn it was highly magnetic. That was one 174 00:11:27.279 --> 00:11:30.320 thing we'd noticed that before we removed the object from 175 00:11:30.360 --> 00:11:32.840 my body, it was at about a ten mila magnetic field, 176 00:11:33.960 --> 00:11:38.399 and our associate, doctor Kuons thought that the magnetic field 177 00:11:38.799 --> 00:11:40.759 may have may have had to do with its power source. 178 00:11:40.840 --> 00:11:42.759 He thought that it was powered by zero point energy 179 00:11:43.519 --> 00:11:47.240 by the interaction between some phone on mode in the 180 00:11:47.240 --> 00:11:52.440 metal and the magnetic field. Another an usual thing about 181 00:11:52.440 --> 00:11:55.360 the object of the metallic portion was made of meteoric 182 00:11:55.399 --> 00:11:59.840 iron that the trace element pattern and it exactly matched wrong, 183 00:12:00.080 --> 00:12:05.159 exactly matched a group of nickelairon meteorites called hexahed rites. 184 00:12:07.279 --> 00:12:10.960 And it produced no Like all the other implants the 185 00:12:11.039 --> 00:12:15.159 doctor Leer researched, it produced no. No inflammation in my 186 00:12:15.240 --> 00:12:19.879 toe or nearly A foreign body will always produce inflammation 187 00:12:19.919 --> 00:12:24.519 in the human body. So that's uh. 188 00:12:24.799 --> 00:12:29.720 I've heard instances of the the nerves actually growing around 189 00:12:29.799 --> 00:12:31.399 these objects. 190 00:12:31.720 --> 00:12:35.120 Yeah, that's right, there were, there were There are appropriate 191 00:12:35.159 --> 00:12:39.519 sceptor nerves growing into these objects from in every case 192 00:12:39.559 --> 00:12:43.799 that we've seen, including the implant in my toe. And 193 00:12:43.840 --> 00:12:46.120 that's that's their connection to the nervous system. That's that's 194 00:12:46.120 --> 00:12:52.360 how they gather information apparently and also perhaps transmit information 195 00:12:52.480 --> 00:12:57.159 to the body. And h there's some chemical cue to 196 00:12:57.240 --> 00:12:58.879 cause the nerve cells to grow into them. And I 197 00:12:58.879 --> 00:13:00.919 think that's the pain that was expert ancing in my 198 00:13:01.039 --> 00:13:03.480 toe was probably the nerve cells growing into the device. 199 00:13:05.120 --> 00:13:08.720 You said, there's no immune response to the object. 200 00:13:08.320 --> 00:13:12.799 Either, no, none whatsoever. It was highly unusual, and that's 201 00:13:13.039 --> 00:13:16.120 that's been repeated like seventeen times now. None of them 202 00:13:16.120 --> 00:13:18.360 had any any immune response whatsoever. 203 00:13:20.320 --> 00:13:25.039 Now do you know the what the purposes of these 204 00:13:25.200 --> 00:13:27.480 devices would be other than cracking? 205 00:13:29.840 --> 00:13:32.960 Not for sure. We have we have abductee reports on 206 00:13:33.519 --> 00:13:35.919 what the aliens say there for, and we have some 207 00:13:36.559 --> 00:13:39.960 educated speculation on what they're for. But I'll just run 208 00:13:40.120 --> 00:13:44.759 run that value, and you know, we may find out 209 00:13:44.799 --> 00:13:47.799 that they do other things too. But logically they must 210 00:13:47.840 --> 00:13:50.559 they must be tracking devices, but a lot of them 211 00:13:50.600 --> 00:13:55.039 are probably not primarily tracking devices, And the ones in 212 00:13:55.080 -->

00:13:57.200 the extremities, like the ones in the toe or the 213 00:13:58.080 --> 00:14:03.240 the wrist, the leg, or probably are are mainly physiological 214 00:14:03.360 --> 00:14:08.519 monitoring devices to measure all kinds of physiological parameters like 215 00:14:08.600 --> 00:14:14.480 blood sugar, blood oxygen, uh of hormone levels, that sort 216 00:14:14.559 --> 00:14:19.120 of thing. And we have reason to believe from what 217 00:14:19.200 --> 00:14:23.720 people have told us that that they can. Most of 218 00:14:23.720 --> 00:14:26.840 the devices can be used to implant suggestions that are 219 00:14:26.840 --> 00:14:31.799 hard to ignore because the subject always thinks it's their idea. 220 00:14:33.919 --> 00:14:37.279 And doctor Kons thought that some of them could be 221 00:14:37.360 --> 00:14:40.759 used as room bugs could pick up airborne sounds and 222 00:14:40.960 --> 00:14:43.600 they transmit radio waves, but they're not always on, but 223 00:14:43.639 --> 00:14:52.279 they sometimes they're transmitting, and so they're they're definitely transmitting 224 00:14:52.320 --> 00:14:54.879 that information back to the people that put them. 225 00:14:54.720 --> 00:15:03.159 In the most. I guess what areas of the body 226 00:15:03.240 --> 00:15:04.879 are they mostly found in. 227 00:15:06.919 --> 00:15:11.320 They're mostly found in the extremities in the head. There's 228 00:15:11.440 --> 00:15:14.120 typically on somebody that's got a lot of alien activity, 229 00:15:14.159 --> 00:15:19.159 there's typically one one above each year, a tiny one 230 00:15:19.200 --> 00:15:22.759 above each year below the scalp and above the skull, 231 00:15:25.039 --> 00:15:28.240 and uh one at the back of the neck, and 232 00:15:28.279 --> 00:15:33.879 the t three vertebrae, and a brain implant. The brain 233 00:15:33.919 --> 00:15:36.120 implants are hard to detect because they're they're made of 234 00:15:36.159 --> 00:15:38.799 a conductive polymer. I actually analyze one of those two 235 00:15:38.919 --> 00:15:42.639 that that fell out of somebody's nose, and it was 236 00:15:42.679 --> 00:15:47.000 interesting because the alien the aliens told somebody that that 237 00:15:47.039 --> 00:15:49.440 they were made of a conductive polymer, and and that 238 00:15:49.679 --> 00:15:52.159 indeed was what the one I analyzed was made out of. 239 00:15:54.159 --> 00:15:59.399 And they grow or said they grow tendrils throughout the brain, 240 00:16:00.000 --> 00:16:06.559 and those implants can enable the aliens, according to what 241 00:16:06.600 --> 00:16:10.240 they've said, to hear and see what the subject is 242 00:16:10.279 --> 00:16:13.519 hearing and seeing in real time, and probably also hear 243 00:16:13.519 --> 00:16:19.879 what they're thinking, and so that's getting that implant is 244 00:16:20.000 --> 00:16:22.440 like connecting the person of the alien high of mind. 245 00:16:22.480 --> 00:16:24.639 They're kind of a high of mind species, kind of 246 00:16:24.639 --> 00:16:27.480 like the borer, gun star trek. You have seen them? 247 00:16:28.000 --> 00:16:31.200 Yeah, And am I right in saying that some of 248 00:16:31.240 --> 00:16:36.559 these have actually moved? When Trump been when yes. 249 00:16:36.679 --> 00:16:38.159 I was talking, I was speaking of this the state 250 00:16:38.200 --> 00:16:40.120 of the station. All the ones that we've analyzed right now, 251 00:16:40.200 --> 00:16:43.759 so far i've been up to now been stationary ones. 252 00:16:44.559 --> 00:16:46.600 But there are moving ones too. We've never had a 253 00:16:46.639 --> 00:16:49.320 chance to analyze ones. We can't get them out, and 254 00:16:49.360 --> 00:16:52.639 they're more rare than the stationary ones at any rate. 255 00:16:52.720 --> 00:16:58.679 But I've had I've had contact with people say that 256 00:16:58.799 --> 00:17:01.840 they have moving ones. And Whilly streamer out a moving 257 00:17:01.879 --> 00:17:03.399 one in his ear. I think he still has it, 258 00:17:03.759 --> 00:17:07.160 and doctor here I was going to take it out, 259 00:17:07.200 --> 00:17:11.160 but he changed his mind at the last minute. Really 260 00:17:11.240 --> 00:17:11.519 did that? 261 00:17:11.640 --> 00:17:15.119 Is now? You said they emit radio signals? 262 00:17:16.000 --> 00:17:20.559 Absolutely? Yeah, about ten percent of the time they're active 263 00:17:20.640 --> 00:17:24.039 emitting radio signals. That's all of the implants that we 264 00:17:24.119 --> 00:17:26.319 know of, including the movie ones. 265 00:17:28.200 --> 00:17:28.440 Out. 266 00:17:28.759 --> 00:17:31.480 The movie ones. The movie ones are probably also made 267 00:17:31.920 --> 00:17:36.039 of a conductive polymer and they have these like ccilia 268 00:17:36.160 --> 00:17:38.559 on them, like a like a microorganism would have that 269 00:17:38.680 --> 00:17:43.799 enables them to move under the skin. And some people 270 00:17:43.839 --> 00:17:45.480 report that it hurts quite a bit when they move. 271 00:17:46.720 --> 00:17:52.079 Wow. Yeah, I can't imagine having something moving under my skin? Now? 272 00:17:52.759 --> 00:17:56.720 How many? How many have you had removed from yourself? 273 00:17:56.799 --> 00:17:57.400 Just the one? 274 00:17:58.279 --> 00:18:00.319 Just the one? Yeah? 275 00:18:00.720 --> 00:18:03.359 Have you had any others that you know of that 276 00:18:04.519 --> 00:18:05.759 you know may still be there? 277 00:18:08.000 --> 00:18:10.759 I have actual evidence that at least two more. I 278 00:18:10.799 --> 00:18:12.279 think that I think I have three or four more. 279 00:18:14.799 --> 00:18:15.400 Would look. 280 00:18:17.400 --> 00:18:19.880 The ones above the years I've got those. And I 281 00:18:19.920 --> 00:18:22.160 remember having a brain implant put in when I was five, 282 00:18:22.240 --> 00:18:25.119 like I was telling you, and I think that standard 283 00:18:25.319 --> 00:18:28.839 procedure for

most abductees. 284 00:18:30.680 --> 00:18:33.599 Now, when you're doing scans for these devices, what kind 285 00:18:33.640 --> 00:18:34.839 of equipment are you using? 286 00:18:37.359 --> 00:18:40.920 The the standard scans that I use on people that 287 00:18:40.960 --> 00:18:42.680 want to find out if they're abductees or not, or 288 00:18:42.880 --> 00:18:49.799 a stead finder scan to scan areas of concern for implants. 289 00:18:49.960 --> 00:18:52.519 It's are good at detecting metallic objects into the skin, 290 00:18:53.559 --> 00:18:56.039 and then we do a gas meter scan UH for 291 00:18:56.160 --> 00:19:00.920 the Tech Week. Magnetic fields and UH alien equipment can 292 00:19:00.960 --> 00:19:06.279 sometimes magnetize things including human tissue. And if we get 293 00:19:06.319 --> 00:19:09.039 a gas meter hit combined with a studfinder hit, there's 294 00:19:09.240 --> 00:19:12.519 a high probability that's an implant. The implants are almost 295 00:19:12.519 --> 00:19:18.279 always magnetic. And then I use I got your counter 296 00:19:18.359 --> 00:19:21.039 to detect any trace of radiation once in a while 297 00:19:21.200 --> 00:19:26.480 or something left behind. And and I use an ultraviolet 298 00:19:26.599 --> 00:19:30.440 light to detect alien dyes that are left behind on 299 00:19:30.440 --> 00:19:32.559 the body that stay up to a month, or indelible 300 00:19:32.680 --> 00:19:36.279 dyes that are really hard to remove. And there's various 301 00:19:36.319 --> 00:19:45.480 colors orange, green, yellow, green, and blue, and uh there 302 00:19:45.599 --> 00:19:52.119 they shine very strongly under short wavev illumination. And that's 303 00:19:52.119 --> 00:19:54.240 a that's a dead giveaway. If if I see those, 304 00:19:54.279 --> 00:19:56.759 I know the person's been been taken within the last month. 305 00:19:58.839 --> 00:20:04.400 Now they want to have this remove? Do you do 306 00:20:04.440 --> 00:20:08.440 you refer them to a to someone to have them removed. 307 00:20:10.039 --> 00:20:12.079 Well, I've just been telling I don't have a doctor 308 00:20:12.119 --> 00:20:15.119 working with me at this point in time, But I 309 00:20:15.160 --> 00:20:17.599 just I just tell people to go to their GP 310 00:20:17.880 --> 00:20:20.240 and say they have a foreign object that's bothering them 311 00:20:20.279 --> 00:20:24.640 and try to get it removed. Insurance should cover it. Theoretically, 312 00:20:26.400 --> 00:20:28.839 that's all I can do at the moment. But I'm 313 00:20:28.839 --> 00:20:31.960 trying to find a doctor who will come forward and 314 00:20:32.039 --> 00:20:33.119 helped me with this research. 315 00:20:34.440 --> 00:20:39.880 Have you analyzed them any recently? Uh? 316 00:20:40.039 --> 00:20:46.559 No, not recently. The last The last stuff I analyzed 317 00:20:46.680 --> 00:20:50.680 was actually some crish debris from a UFO that crashed 318 00:20:50.720 --> 00:20:55.319 in New Mexico during the roswell time period. 319 00:20:57.599 --> 00:21:03.480 Seven kind of results came from that, and. 320 00:21:05.000 --> 00:21:10.160 I also analyzed patient seventeen's implant to reanalyze part of 321 00:21:10.200 --> 00:21:16.119 it about like three years ago. Oh. There were mostly 322 00:21:16.119 --> 00:21:20.400 pieces of aluminum. There was one piece of like ultrapure 323 00:21:20.440 --> 00:21:22.839 aluminum that appeared to have some sort of a different 324 00:21:22.839 --> 00:21:25.440 crystal structure than regular aluminum, and it was very hard 325 00:21:25.480 --> 00:21:27.400 and would give off sparks when you when you put 326 00:21:27.400 --> 00:21:31.000 it on a grinding wheel, which is not what aluminum 327 00:21:31.039 --> 00:21:33.480 typically does it with act even more like titanium or 328 00:21:33.519 --> 00:21:39.160 steel in that regard. But it was incredibly strong, and 329 00:21:40.039 --> 00:21:44.559 that also was the case with patient sixteens implant that 330 00:21:44.599 --> 00:21:49.720 came out of his wrist. It was a steel a 331 00:21:49.799 --> 00:21:54.000 steel carbon anitude metal matrix composite with a little bit 332 00:21:54.000 --> 00:21:56.759 of meteoric iron in it that was incredibly strong, and 333 00:21:57.240 --> 00:21:59.880 diamond tools would even cut it. That'sn't heard of down 334 00:22:00.240 --> 00:22:01.839 them tools could just about anything. 335 00:22:03.160 --> 00:22:06.480 Wow, that should Yeah, that's very fascinating. 336 00:22:07.720 --> 00:22:14.319 The other crash Debrie samples were aluminum with some strange 337 00:22:14.319 --> 00:22:20.799 impurities in them that would not be there in earthly 338 00:22:20.799 --> 00:22:26.799 aluminum samples. A little guranium and thorium, rare earth gallium 339 00:22:26.799 --> 00:22:28.240 and germanium, stuff like that. 340 00:22:30.160 --> 00:22:34.079 Now do you think it's possible that our government or 341 00:22:34.200 --> 00:22:38.519 military industrial complex could be doing some of these implants? 342 00:22:40.480 --> 00:22:43.079 Yeah, I think it's possible. I heard a rumor not 343 00:22:43.119 --> 00:22:47.720 too long ago actually, that the aliens had given them 344 00:22:48.079 --> 00:22:51.079 a large quantity of their implants as part of some deal. 345 00:22:51.720 --> 00:22:55.640 So I hope that's not true. That'll mean that it'll 346 00:22:55.680 --> 00:22:58.480 be impossible to tell the difference between government implants and 347 00:22:58.519 --> 00:23:03.319 alien implants. But there's some evidence that the government and 348 00:23:03.319 --> 00:23:07.119 the aliens are working together anyway. But up to now, 349 00:23:07.200 --> 00:23:10.559 government implants have been distinguishable because they're usually like like 350 00:23:11.039 --> 00:23:14.519 you know, little computer chips, like a standard computer chip 351 00:23:14.799 --> 00:23:19.079 under the skin. But alien implants are very very small. 352 00:23:19.119 -->

00:23:21.599 They're they're buch smaller. They're like the one in my 353 00:23:21.680 --> 00:23:25.680 toe is like like one millimeter in diameter by like 354 00:23:25.799 --> 00:23:33.759 three and a half four millimeters long, and they're much 355 00:23:34.039 --> 00:23:38.400 that the technology is much greater in them, much more advanced. 356 00:23:39.359 --> 00:23:44.400 And I'm sorry, what was your question? 357 00:23:44.839 --> 00:23:47.119 Oh no, well I was gonna ask. I was going 358 00:23:47.160 --> 00:23:51.000 to go back to your contact experiences and ask if 359 00:23:51.000 --> 00:23:56.000 you remember any direct communication with any of these beings. 360 00:23:57.359 --> 00:23:59.279 Uh, yeah, yeah, a little bit. 361 00:23:59.640 --> 00:24:04.720 I mean, are any messages they told you, like. 362 00:24:04.680 --> 00:24:06.640 When they told me, when they told me what the 363 00:24:06.920 --> 00:24:12.680 what the brand implants were for? And uh, they'll sometimes 364 00:24:12.720 --> 00:24:16.039 answer questions like that, not always, And there they remind 365 00:24:16.079 --> 00:24:18.039 me of a high tech foreign military and a lot 366 00:24:18.039 --> 00:24:20.680 of the stuff they do is secret on their end too, 367 00:24:21.480 --> 00:24:25.039 And questions about what is your agenda? What do you 368 00:24:25.079 --> 00:24:28.079 plan to do at point A and point B at 369 00:24:28.519 --> 00:24:30.680 this or that time. They won't answer questions like that, 370 00:24:30.839 --> 00:24:34.640 or hardly ever will, but they do sometimes ask answer 371 00:24:34.680 --> 00:24:38.720 technical questions. And let's see, I remember them telling me 372 00:24:38.880 --> 00:24:40.759 what the what the implants are for? And I remember 373 00:24:40.960 --> 00:24:43.160 telling me a lot of a lot of teas report 374 00:24:43.200 --> 00:24:46.640 this that they're concerned about us screwing up the planet 375 00:24:46.720 --> 00:24:50.279 and possibly having a war that will be disastrous, and 376 00:24:50.279 --> 00:24:53.599 we need to change our ways and become part of 377 00:24:53.599 --> 00:24:57.000 the galactic community, and messages like that that's pre standard. 378 00:24:58.440 --> 00:25:03.160 Have you in your regressions or any types of memories. 379 00:25:03.240 --> 00:25:07.920 Do you have memories of interacting with any reptilian beings 380 00:25:08.079 --> 00:25:09.880 or insectoid beings. 381 00:25:11.759 --> 00:25:14.519 I remember seeing some ones that look like praying maniss 382 00:25:14.559 --> 00:25:17.200 that are like the bosses of the grays. You don't 383 00:25:17.200 --> 00:25:19.119 see them very often, but I remember seeing them on 384 00:25:19.319 --> 00:25:20.319 a couple occasions. 385 00:25:20.599 --> 00:25:22.759 No, I hear that a lot, that they're the bosses 386 00:25:22.799 --> 00:25:26.240 of the grays, that they're they're somehow in control of them. 387 00:25:27.000 --> 00:25:31.079 You think the Grays are just some type of biological 388 00:25:31.160 --> 00:25:32.200 AI or something. 389 00:25:33.680 --> 00:25:36.200 Well, I think maybe some of them are, but in general, 390 00:25:36.359 --> 00:25:40.359 in general they are. They are races that in most 391 00:25:40.400 --> 00:25:42.559 cases used to be more like us. And they've had 392 00:25:42.599 --> 00:25:45.920 technology for so long that it's it's that it's changed them. 393 00:25:46.440 --> 00:25:50.039 They've often, at least the short grays, have altered themselves 394 00:25:50.079 --> 00:25:55.799 by genetic engineering and over exposure to radiation and overuse 395 00:25:55.880 --> 00:26:02.079 of transporters and technologies like that, and now they're trying 396 00:26:02.119 --> 00:26:07.720 to fix themselves. And the Grays are an alliance of 397 00:26:07.759 --> 00:26:13.440 like seven similar species, and they've all been changed by 398 00:26:13.480 --> 00:26:15.440 technology to one extend or another. But I think the 399 00:26:15.480 --> 00:26:18.240 short grazer and and the worst shape, and that's that's 400 00:26:18.240 --> 00:26:23.400 part of the reason they're doing all these subductions. They 401 00:26:23.400 --> 00:26:25.640 want people like us in their society, and they want 402 00:26:25.640 --> 00:26:28.599 to fix themselves with human DNA or something like that. 403 00:26:30.680 --> 00:26:35.400 Are there certain are there certain bloodlines that are actually 404 00:26:35.480 --> 00:26:39.440 targeted more for these abductions and these implants. 405 00:26:40.920 --> 00:26:41.039 Oh? 406 00:26:41.119 --> 00:26:44.640 Absolutely, it's a it's a lineage thing. 407 00:26:45.240 --> 00:26:45.359 Uh. 408 00:26:45.680 --> 00:26:49.599 They've mapped out all the blood lines of humanity long ago, apparently, 409 00:26:49.640 --> 00:26:53.680 and they know what characteristics they're interested in, and they 410 00:26:54.000 --> 00:26:56.960 hand pick individuals to be part of their program based 411 00:26:57.000 --> 00:27:01.000 on their bloodlines and and genetic makeup. 412 00:27:04.039 --> 00:27:07.440 I've spoken with a lot of researchers that that tend 413 00:27:07.440 --> 00:27:13.160 to believe that there's an ongoing hybridization program. Is that 414 00:27:13.279 --> 00:27:17.799 something that you have heard of or encountered or you know, 415 00:27:17.960 --> 00:27:19.720 been been told. 416 00:27:21.799 --> 00:27:26.519 Yeah, they they they apparently genetically modify most of the 417 00:27:26.519 --> 00:27:30.319 people that are involved in the program, and they also 418 00:27:30.400 --> 00:27:33.519 have the people that are called that you're calling hybrids 419 00:27:33.599 --> 00:27:38.160 or have a lot more alien DNA and are were 420 00:27:38.240 --> 00:27:41.759 created in the program to try to create beings that 421 00:27:41.759 --> 00:27:44.559 that look like humans but have all the gray abilities. 422 00:27:45.000 --> 00:27:48.240 And apparently they've had

to put so much human DNA 423 00:27:48.279 --> 00:27:51.359 and into them to make them look human that the 424 00:27:51.480 --> 00:27:53.960 gray abilities are quite diluted, but they're they're a lot 425 00:27:54.000 --> 00:28:00.640 more psychic and and intuitive than normal humans, and they 426 00:28:00.640 --> 00:28:04.000 have faster reflexes, they're stronger, that sort of thing. 427 00:28:05.799 --> 00:28:08.279 So do you think that these these hybrids that they're 428 00:28:08.279 --> 00:28:09.880 actually walking amongst us? 429 00:28:11.640 --> 00:28:14.759 Yeah, I think so. I don't know how. I don't 430 00:28:14.799 --> 00:28:16.799 know how many, but I have reasonablie if it's at 431 00:28:16.880 --> 00:28:17.680 least a few thousand. 432 00:28:21.079 --> 00:28:26.359 Now from your experiences these beings are they do they 433 00:28:26.400 --> 00:28:31.640 have the ability to, I guess travel interdimensionally? Are they 434 00:28:31.720 --> 00:28:34.960 interdimensional beings? Or are are the are the have you 435 00:28:35.079 --> 00:28:39.359 they been physical the ones that you've encountered, Well. 436 00:28:39.200 --> 00:28:41.839 I mean they have time travel, so in that sense, 437 00:28:41.880 --> 00:28:48.319 they're interdimensional. They can travel between between alternate realities. In fact, 438 00:28:48.359 --> 00:28:50.240 they told me that. One one thing they did tell 439 00:28:50.240 --> 00:28:52.200 me is is that they don't like to use time travel. 440 00:28:52.279 --> 00:28:54.400 It's more dangerous than space travel. You can get into 441 00:28:54.440 --> 00:28:56.160 an alternate reality and it would be it might be 442 00:28:56.200 --> 00:29:03.160 difficult to get out. And but no, I don't think 443 00:29:03.160 --> 00:29:08.680 they're from from an alternate universe per se. They told 444 00:29:08.680 --> 00:29:14.440 me that they're that they're from Their races are in 445 00:29:14.480 --> 00:29:18.160 general from planets within one hundred light years of here, 446 00:29:20.079 --> 00:29:22.960 one of which one of which is the rearticulate for 447 00:29:23.599 --> 00:29:28.480 and sixty one Earth some majoris three is another one. 448 00:29:29.839 --> 00:29:31.960 I find it interesting that you said they used to 449 00:29:32.000 --> 00:29:35.319 be a lot more like us, and you know, all 450 00:29:35.359 --> 00:29:38.519 these things that they've done to themselves have changed their 451 00:29:38.519 --> 00:29:44.480 appearance time. Do you think that they were very much 452 00:29:44.640 --> 00:29:50.039 like humanoid beings possibly humans, you know, and they're they're 453 00:29:50.119 --> 00:29:50.920 us in the future. 454 00:29:52.559 --> 00:29:56.640 I've heard some of them are. Yeah. Area fifty one 455 00:29:57.039 --> 00:29:59.839 supposed they made contact with a group of grays that 456 00:30:00.079 --> 00:30:02.279 were humans from the future, from like a million years 457 00:30:02.279 --> 00:30:07.079 from now. And typically these beings start looking like grays 458 00:30:07.119 --> 00:30:10.599 when they've had technology for well in excess of one 459 00:30:10.640 --> 00:30:13.440 hundred thousand years, usually like on the order of a 460 00:30:13.440 --> 00:30:16.000 million years. That's my understanding. 461 00:30:16.039 --> 00:30:24.599 Anyway, Now, what are your thoughts on our secret space program? 462 00:30:25.000 --> 00:30:28.880 Do you think that we have operations on the Moon 463 00:30:29.079 --> 00:30:31.039 on the Mars? 464 00:30:31.920 --> 00:30:35.440 Yeah, I think we've had a secret space program for 465 00:30:35.480 --> 00:30:41.599 a long time, according to my research. When the Air 466 00:30:41.599 --> 00:30:43.680 Force announced they were getting out of the space business 467 00:30:43.720 --> 00:30:46.480 back in nineteen fifty seven, I believe it was, and 468 00:30:46.519 --> 00:30:50.359 they formed NASA, that was for show. I mean, they 469 00:30:50.400 --> 00:30:52.079 never did get out of the space business. They've had 470 00:30:52.079 --> 00:30:56.559 a secret space program ever since then. NASA has always 471 00:30:56.559 --> 00:31:00.799 been a dog and pony show to by the public 472 00:31:00.920 --> 00:31:03.759 and to get all the space scientists under one roof 473 00:31:03.759 --> 00:31:05.960 where they can be controlled and what they say can 474 00:31:06.000 --> 00:31:12.359 be controlled. And the Air Force has been trying to 475 00:31:12.400 --> 00:31:17.279 advance in space for ever since then, and they've had 476 00:31:17.799 --> 00:31:25.680 anti gravity powered craft. They're like, you know, primitive versions 477 00:31:25.759 --> 00:31:28.720 or less sophisticated versions of what the aliens have since 478 00:31:29.319 --> 00:31:33.160 the late sixties. From one to understand, how. 479 00:31:33.039 --> 00:31:36.759 Far ahead do you think our military industrial complex is 480 00:31:36.839 --> 00:31:39.200 as far as technology. I mean, I've heard up to 481 00:31:39.440 --> 00:31:40.920 fifty years. 482 00:31:41.960 --> 00:31:44.599 Yeah, in general, it's about that. In certain areas are 483 00:31:44.599 --> 00:31:47.680 more than one hundred years ahead, but yeah, about fifty 484 00:31:47.759 --> 00:31:48.440 years in general. 485 00:31:51.359 --> 00:31:53.640 And do you think that we will ever see any 486 00:31:53.720 --> 00:31:59.440 of this possible free energy technology, you know, anti gravity. 487 00:32:03.519 --> 00:32:06.119 I think we're probably going to see the anti gravity 488 00:32:06.160 --> 00:32:08.799 before we see the free energy. I think in order 489 00:32:08.799 --> 00:32:10.400 to see the free energy, we're going to have to 490 00:32:11.599 --> 00:32:14.839 change how we how we govern this planet and and 491 00:32:15.519 --> 00:32:17.480 you know, take the power out of the hands of 492 00:32:17.519 --> 00:32:20.079 this this power elite that controls people that don't know 493 00:32:20.039

--> 00:32:24.640 all the oil companies and the pharmaceutical companies and and 494 00:32:24.759 --> 00:32:28.799 the big industries in general. The reason we the reason 495 00:32:28.880 --> 00:32:31.319 we haven't gotten off oil is not because there aren't 496 00:32:31.319 --> 00:32:36.720 better ways of generating power, but because oil and so 497 00:32:36.839 --> 00:32:39.039 called fossil fuels are as good as it gets as 498 00:32:39.039 --> 00:32:43.160 far as the profit margin for the power elid. You 499 00:32:43.240 --> 00:32:45.279 need to burn mega tons of the stuff to generate 500 00:32:45.319 --> 00:32:48.440 any great amount of power, and it's a substance that 501 00:32:48.440 --> 00:32:50.839 occurs all over the planet. We're not running out. That's 502 00:32:50.839 --> 00:32:55.279 a myth that we're running out. It's generated from inorganic 503 00:32:55.319 --> 00:32:57.200 reactions deeper than the Earth. There has nothing to do 504 00:32:57.240 --> 00:33:03.440 with fossils, and to specifically at the crust out near 505 00:33:03.440 --> 00:33:07.119 the crust mantle boundary. That's why if any place starts faulting, 506 00:33:07.440 --> 00:33:10.480 oil comes to the service. It's actually the liquid that 507 00:33:10.559 --> 00:33:14.599 the crystal plates float on. But in an event, we're 508 00:33:14.599 --> 00:33:16.519 not running out, and you have to burn megatons of 509 00:33:16.519 --> 00:33:18.119 the stuff, and you can charge a hundred dollars a 510 00:33:18.160 --> 00:33:20.880 barrel for it, and it's difficult to see any other 511 00:33:20.920 --> 00:33:26.359 way of generating power have a higher profit margin than that. 512 00:33:28.000 --> 00:33:30.960 And they also control people that way. You need their 513 00:33:31.000 --> 00:33:34.079 oil in order to generate power. If we had free energy. 514 00:33:34.119 --> 00:33:35.519 Then you could have a little box that would power 515 00:33:35.599 --> 00:33:40.799 your house and everybody would be independent. Yeah, they have. 516 00:33:44.000 --> 00:33:46.519 Even when they have things like nuclear power, for example, 517 00:33:47.480 --> 00:33:51.319 they want to make huge megapower plants out of it 518 00:33:51.400 --> 00:33:54.359 that everybody has to depend on, rather than smaller units 519 00:33:54.359 --> 00:33:57.920 that would be safer. You know, that brings on it 520 00:33:58.000 --> 00:33:58.720 all centralized. 521 00:33:59.279 --> 00:34:03.079 That brings me to my next point of I think that's, 522 00:34:03.359 --> 00:34:07.079 you know, the reason why so many of us believe 523 00:34:07.200 --> 00:34:11.599 that or want to believe that these elites are in 524 00:34:11.760 --> 00:34:15.639 control from an off planet or a malevolent source, or 525 00:34:16.079 --> 00:34:18.519 even some kind of demonic source. They don't want to 526 00:34:18.519 --> 00:34:21.960 believe that humans just come up with this on their own, 527 00:34:22.079 --> 00:34:25.920 and then they want to enslave humanity just for the 528 00:34:25.960 --> 00:34:28.639 sake of power, just for the sake of money. But 529 00:34:28.880 --> 00:34:30.920 you know, I'm still on the fence. Is it just 530 00:34:31.159 --> 00:34:35.800 humanity and slaving itself or is there something out there that's, 531 00:34:35.840 --> 00:34:38.639 you know, controlling them, pulling their strings. What are your 532 00:34:38.639 --> 00:34:39.199 thoughts on that. 533 00:34:40.000 --> 00:34:41.360 I think it's a little of both. I think that 534 00:34:41.480 --> 00:34:46.760 the the power lead are extremely corrupt, morally bankrupt individuals, 535 00:34:47.400 --> 00:34:50.639 and I think they probably are being influenced by aliens 536 00:34:50.639 --> 00:34:56.000 of sun strike. Probably reptilians, like they say. And one reason, 537 00:34:56.880 --> 00:34:59.679 one reason I think that there's some alien influence involved 538 00:34:59.719 --> 00:35:03.199 is bec because there seems to be a very long term, 539 00:35:03.719 --> 00:35:07.960 multi century plan to do all this enslaving of humanity. 540 00:35:08.039 --> 00:35:11.719 And I just don't believe that the humans are capable 541 00:35:11.760 --> 00:35:15.519 of planning much beyond a human lifetime. Its just it 542 00:35:15.559 --> 00:35:22.159 would be highly uncharacteristic anyway, for individuals that corrupt give 543 00:35:22.199 --> 00:35:25.719 two hoots about what happens after they die. So aliens 544 00:35:25.719 --> 00:35:29.800 have a much longer lifespan. So that's why I think 545 00:35:29.800 --> 00:35:32.840 that there probably is an alien alien influence involved with us, 546 00:35:32.880 --> 00:35:34.960 But I don't think it's really the Grays. I think 547 00:35:35.199 --> 00:35:39.679 if it is aliens, it probably is the reptilians. 548 00:35:40.840 --> 00:35:41.039 Yeah. 549 00:35:41.079 --> 00:35:44.440 I mean there's so many aspects of our society that 550 00:35:44.639 --> 00:35:46.920 is going, I believe, in the wrong direction. I mean, 551 00:35:46.960 --> 00:35:51.079 we're seeing enhancements in technology, but what are we using 552 00:35:51.119 --> 00:35:54.239 it for. I mean, most of the nation is staring 553 00:35:54.280 --> 00:35:59.400 at their smartphones and not producing anything, not giving back 554 00:35:59.400 --> 00:36:04.199 to society, and you know, it's all about themselves and 555 00:36:04.519 --> 00:36:08.760 their devices, and just the nonsense that the media is 556 00:36:08.760 --> 00:36:14.639 spewing out there. The agendas seem to get worse every year, 557 00:36:15.280 --> 00:36:18.559 and people are just buying into it and going along 558 00:36:18.599 --> 00:36:21.639 with it, and it doesn't seem to be changing in 559 00:36:21.679 --> 00:36:24.719 any way. There's a few of us that are waking 560 00:36:24.800 --> 00:36:28.840 up to this and becoming aware and spreading the word, 561 00:36:28.880 --> 00:36:32.119 but it doesn't seem to be enough to be

making 562 00:36:32.159 --> 00:36:34.599 a change that in the direction we need to go. 563 00:36:37.039 --> 00:36:39.559 Yeah, I think we're making some progress, but I hope 564 00:36:39.559 --> 00:36:42.320 it's it's not too little, too late. I mean, the 565 00:36:42.400 --> 00:36:45.800 Grays really do want us to wake up and do 566 00:36:46.880 --> 00:36:50.920 things better and improve things. There's really no reason technologically 567 00:36:51.000 --> 00:36:53.239 why things can be getting better and better on this 568 00:36:53.280 --> 00:36:56.880 planet instead of worse and worse. The only reason they're 569 00:36:56.880 --> 00:37:00.320 getting worse and worse, in my opinion, is because the 570 00:37:00.360 --> 00:37:02.519 power elite want more and more and more money out 571 00:37:02.559 --> 00:37:04.599 of us, and more and more and more control. And 572 00:37:04.599 --> 00:37:10.320 and when you disempower people and and uh make and 573 00:37:10.639 --> 00:37:12.440 you know, take all their money away and everything, and 574 00:37:12.800 --> 00:37:18.159 then things are definitely gonna get worse and worse. The 575 00:37:18.239 --> 00:37:22.079 type of system that they that they have set up 576 00:37:22.119 --> 00:37:24.760 and that they that they want to promulgate is and 577 00:37:24.840 --> 00:37:27.679 sustainable and that the grades are concerned about that too. 578 00:37:29.840 --> 00:37:32.920 And all the technology we we do have we use 579 00:37:33.039 --> 00:37:37.280 for or release governments use for better ways of killing 580 00:37:37.360 --> 00:37:40.159 each other. And we need to we need to, you know, 581 00:37:40.239 --> 00:37:44.519 do something instructive as a race rather than always destructive. 582 00:37:44.559 --> 00:37:48.360 I mean, there's no reason why we ought to behave 583 00:37:48.400 --> 00:37:50.599 with every new technology like a kid that's found his 584 00:37:50.679 --> 00:37:53.239 father's gun. I mean, as it's you know, we needed 585 00:37:53.360 --> 00:37:55.239 we need to be more responsible than that. 586 00:37:56.960 --> 00:37:59.599 Now you said that it's the grades that they want 587 00:37:59.639 --> 00:38:04.239 to help us. I hear so many contrady stories about 588 00:38:04.440 --> 00:38:09.280 the Grays. Yeah, they're very misunderstood. I think some of 589 00:38:09.320 --> 00:38:16.320 them actually are leveling hyper robotic entities that may be 590 00:38:16.559 --> 00:38:19.800 under control of reptilian races. But I hear some of 591 00:38:19.840 --> 00:38:25.480 them are here to help us. So you've experienced primarily 592 00:38:25.559 --> 00:38:28.400 the ones that are here to help or so they. 593 00:38:28.280 --> 00:38:31.400 Say, well, yeah they're not they're not warm and fuzzy, 594 00:38:31.519 --> 00:38:33.800 but and they're here. They're mainly here to help themselves 595 00:38:33.840 --> 00:38:37.079 to our resources and such, but they are here secondarily 596 00:38:37.159 --> 00:38:39.760 to to help the planet and to help us become 597 00:38:39.800 --> 00:38:47.000 a more more sane and responsible race. Definitely, But I 598 00:38:47.320 --> 00:38:49.920 disagree with people say that they're total scum, sucking evil. 599 00:38:49.960 --> 00:38:52.639 I mean, I just I just haven't really experienced. 600 00:38:54.480 --> 00:38:58.800 Do you think that there was an agreement with Eisenhower 601 00:38:59.039 --> 00:39:04.480 and the z T for technology in exchange for human abduction. 602 00:39:05.800 --> 00:39:08.480 Yeah, I think there was. I don't have any any 603 00:39:08.559 --> 00:39:10.760 proof of that, but it certainly makes sense. I mean, 604 00:39:11.920 --> 00:39:15.920 they had they had a big, a big to do 605 00:39:16.159 --> 00:39:19.519 with UFOs over the White House in nineteen fifty two, 606 00:39:19.679 --> 00:39:22.360 and they were trying to shoot and shoot them down 607 00:39:22.679 --> 00:39:26.719 prior to that big time, and it sort of makes 608 00:39:26.719 --> 00:39:30.400 sense that that somebody would have requested a meeting and 609 00:39:30.440 --> 00:39:34.719 Eisenhower was actually missing during a couple of time periods 610 00:39:34.719 --> 00:39:36.719 when people said they had a meeting with the Grays 611 00:39:36.800 --> 00:39:41.079 at Patterson Air Force Base, it said that Kennedy met 612 00:39:41.119 --> 00:39:45.199 with them too, And I was kind of mad that 613 00:39:45.239 --> 00:39:48.079 they about them selling us out at first, but then 614 00:39:48.079 --> 00:39:50.920 I figured, well what else? What else really could they 615 00:39:51.000 --> 00:39:53.000 do that if they had not agreed to it, the 616 00:39:53.039 --> 00:39:56.679 Grays would have just done it anyway, and they wouldn't 617 00:39:56.679 --> 00:39:58.159 have gotten anything out of it. They wanted to get 618 00:39:58.199 --> 00:39:59.519 technology out of it, at least. 619 00:40:01.320 --> 00:40:05.480 So what are your thoughts on what's happening now with disclosure. 620 00:40:06.719 --> 00:40:09.800 There's i'd like to say, interesting things happening. I don't 621 00:40:09.840 --> 00:40:14.880 know what direction they're trying to come with this, with 622 00:40:15.159 --> 00:40:20.719 the Navy sidings and all the mainstream media talking about 623 00:40:20.840 --> 00:40:24.760 UFOs and now this whole craze with storm Area fifty one, 624 00:40:25.280 --> 00:40:28.519 it just seems like it's all happening at one time 625 00:40:30.119 --> 00:40:33.360 more prevalent. Now, do you think that there's some sort 626 00:40:33.400 --> 00:40:34.519 of agenda. 627 00:40:34.079 --> 00:40:37.880 There, Yeah, I think there always has. There always has 628 00:40:37.920 --> 00:40:42.920 been two conflicting agendas and government about disclosure. The intelligence 629 00:40:42.960 --> 00:40:46.320 agencies want to keep the alien presence under wraps forever, 630 00:40:46.920 --> 00:40:49.159 and a lot of other government

agencies want to disclose 631 00:40:49.480 --> 00:40:51.800 or at least disclosed in a controlled manner after a 632 00:40:51.800 --> 00:40:54.679 certain amount of time. And I think the Navy now 633 00:40:54.719 --> 00:40:56.920 believes that that time has come and that we should 634 00:40:57.079 --> 00:41:00.960 we should be seriously preparing the public for for disclosure, 635 00:41:01.719 --> 00:41:04.280 and they have a lot of pull, and I think 636 00:41:04.320 --> 00:41:09.639 that they and maybe some other government agencies have instituted 637 00:41:09.679 --> 00:41:14.159 a push for this and said told the intelligence community 638 00:41:14.159 --> 00:41:16.159 community that enough is enough, We're going to do this. 639 00:41:17.519 --> 00:41:19.960 But yeah, several people have told me that that there's 640 00:41:20.320 --> 00:41:23.599 more of a push for disclosure right now than ever before. 641 00:41:23.679 --> 00:41:27.400 And it was really kind of abrupt because just like 642 00:41:27.480 --> 00:41:29.679 two years ago, we were in the midst of another 643 00:41:29.719 --> 00:41:34.039 crackdown on talking about UFO. So it goes in cycles, 644 00:41:34.079 --> 00:41:36.880 but this cycle appears to be it appears to be 645 00:41:36.920 --> 00:41:40.280 different according to what I've heard, and that that we 646 00:41:40.360 --> 00:41:42.960 may actually get disclosure at the end of it this time. 647 00:41:44.320 --> 00:41:46.840 Do you think that we will see it within I 648 00:41:46.880 --> 00:41:49.039 don't know how to say the next five years. 649 00:41:51.679 --> 00:41:54.280 Yeah, there's a good chance. I'm not going to say 650 00:41:54.280 --> 00:41:55.760 it for sure, but I think there's maybe a fifty 651 00:41:55.800 --> 00:41:58.239 good chance we'll see disclosure within five years. 652 00:41:58.880 --> 00:41:59.039 Now. 653 00:41:59.079 --> 00:42:02.840 What are your thoughts on what's happening with Trump? Do 654 00:42:02.960 --> 00:42:06.559 you know I I don't really follow politics. I never 655 00:42:06.639 --> 00:42:10.000 trusted the presidents. I always believe there are puppets. But 656 00:42:10.480 --> 00:42:13.840 you know, like I tell people, I do see something 657 00:42:13.840 --> 00:42:16.559 with Trump that I haven't seen before. I just don't 658 00:42:16.559 --> 00:42:19.960 know if there's another agenda behind that, you know, a 659 00:42:20.519 --> 00:42:23.800 hidden agenda behind the agenda. It's so hard to tell. 660 00:42:23.840 --> 00:42:27.639 With with everything that's happened. What are your thoughts. Do 661 00:42:27.679 --> 00:42:29.960 you think he's on our side and he's trying to 662 00:42:31.280 --> 00:42:33.880 get the ball rolling in the right direction for us? 663 00:42:34.840 --> 00:42:38.400 Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if Trump Trump in part 664 00:42:38.719 --> 00:42:41.880 started this latest push towards disclosure. I know his I 665 00:42:41.960 --> 00:42:45.840 believe it was. His father was heavily involved in in 666 00:42:46.440 --> 00:42:52.239 UFO research from within the government, and he knows all 667 00:42:52.280 --> 00:43:00.320 about all about this stuff, and I think that he's not. 668 00:43:00.440 --> 00:43:02.199 Part of the reason that people are so against him 669 00:43:02.280 --> 00:43:04.480 is that in the media because he's not a puppet, 670 00:43:04.559 --> 00:43:05.880 or at least he's not nearly as much of a 671 00:43:05.920 --> 00:43:08.079 puppet as the last few presidents we've had, and that 672 00:43:08.159 --> 00:43:12.039 worries a lot. And these people in the so called 673 00:43:12.039 --> 00:43:15.239 deep state are very worried about him who he's, from 674 00:43:15.239 --> 00:43:18.760 their point of view, loose cannon, and he wants to 675 00:43:18.840 --> 00:43:20.159 put things back the way they were. 676 00:43:22.840 --> 00:43:26.159 So do you see do you see a victory for him? 677 00:43:26.159 --> 00:43:27.880 Do you think we're still going to keep going in 678 00:43:27.920 --> 00:43:29.239 that same direction. 679 00:43:31.840 --> 00:43:33.800 As far as disclosure or. 680 00:43:35.119 --> 00:43:38.199 As far as the election. Do you think that he 681 00:43:38.280 --> 00:43:41.159 has a chance that we're going to keep moving in 682 00:43:41.159 --> 00:43:41.760 that direction? 683 00:43:42.639 --> 00:43:44.079 Do I think he's going to get re elected? You 684 00:43:44.079 --> 00:43:48.159 mean or yeah, yes, I believe it will get re elected. 685 00:43:48.400 --> 00:43:52.760 I think that people, that the deep state people are 686 00:43:52.800 --> 00:43:54.880 not going to be able to counter the groundswell of 687 00:43:55.519 --> 00:44:01.079 positive public opinion about Trump improving the economy and trying 688 00:44:01.079 --> 00:44:03.920 to stop this agenda of giving all power to illegal 689 00:44:03.960 --> 00:44:07.960 aliens and and and all that sort of thing that 690 00:44:08.000 --> 00:44:09.639 they've been doing this crazy stuff. 691 00:44:13.559 --> 00:44:18.320 Now as far as all these other agendas, these you know, 692 00:44:18.360 --> 00:44:21.679 these hidden agendas to you know, you see it. I'm 693 00:44:21.719 --> 00:44:25.800 trying to dumb us down through the media. Very suspect 694 00:44:25.880 --> 00:44:28.480 of five G. I don't believe that it's going to 695 00:44:28.519 --> 00:44:32.320 be just for faster download speeds. I believe that there's 696 00:44:32.400 --> 00:44:36.199 some malevolent purposes behind that. What are your thoughts on that? 697 00:44:36.719 --> 00:44:40.119 Oh, I totally agree. I mean, I've seen indications from 698 00:44:40.119 --> 00:44:43.400 what I've been from from my research that five G 699 00:44:44.199 --> 00:44:47.400 can be weaponized and can be used to spy on people, 700 00:44:47.519 --> 00:44:55.840 and can be used to do mind control and several 701 00:44:55.840 --> 00:44:58.679 other things. And that's the reason the government's

pushing for it. 702 00:44:58.679 --> 00:45:01.599 So are it's not to down load PDF files faster 703 00:45:01.679 --> 00:45:06.559 than than we can do now. Everybody, including Trump and 704 00:45:06.639 --> 00:45:10.679 government wants five year. They're just salivating for it, and 705 00:45:11.039 --> 00:45:13.880 to the point where they're willing to launch like a 706 00:45:13.880 --> 00:45:17.639 trillion dollars worth of new satellites in order to support it. 707 00:45:18.960 --> 00:45:22.719 And this is in spite of the fact that it's 708 00:45:22.760 --> 00:45:26.239 known for sure that radiation in that wave band is 709 00:45:27.320 --> 00:45:29.920 terrible for you and they're planning on bathing the planet 710 00:45:29.920 --> 00:45:38.400 and low levels of high gigurts tarts radiation, and nobody 711 00:45:38.400 --> 00:45:39.440 knows what effect I'll have. 712 00:45:40.199 --> 00:45:46.639 It can't be good, definitely. Now, as far as our 713 00:45:46.800 --> 00:45:54.360 secret space program, a lot of the UFOs that do 714 00:45:54.400 --> 00:45:57.719 you believe that those are actual off planet crafts or 715 00:45:57.760 --> 00:46:00.519 do you think that's a lot of our military. 716 00:46:01.559 --> 00:46:04.039 I think most of them are alien. My personal opinion 717 00:46:04.079 --> 00:46:07.199 is that most of them are are alien, but maybe 718 00:46:07.280 --> 00:46:11.480 a third of them or are ours. The percentage of 719 00:46:11.920 --> 00:46:14.360 ones that are ours is probably going to continue to increase. 720 00:46:16.639 --> 00:46:22.159 It's definitely increased since the nineteen sixties and seventies. They 721 00:46:22.760 --> 00:46:27.119 reportedly perfected the anty gravity craft to the point where 722 00:46:27.159 --> 00:46:30.519 it was pretty safe and can carry large loads and 723 00:46:30.559 --> 00:46:34.920 such around then around the mid nineties. So they have 724 00:46:35.280 --> 00:46:43.039 now a fleet of any gravity powered spacecraft. And a 725 00:46:43.039 --> 00:46:48.599 Congressman from Alaska during that that hearing on disclosure that 726 00:46:48.639 --> 00:46:51.800 they that they that Steve Bassett held in Washington, d C. 727 00:46:51.960 --> 00:46:54.400 Actually admitted that during the proceedings. 728 00:46:57.719 --> 00:47:03.320 Now, as far as the the alien species, the Grays, 729 00:47:03.360 --> 00:47:08.639 for instance, they have an agreement that they can't intervene 730 00:47:09.440 --> 00:47:10.840 with anything in our planet? 731 00:47:10.880 --> 00:47:11.360 Is that right? 732 00:47:13.159 --> 00:47:15.400 Well, I think there's a there's like an alien un 733 00:47:15.800 --> 00:47:22.880 where all the powerful alien species interact, and I think 734 00:47:22.880 --> 00:47:27.199 they've got got a rule that they cannot, you know, 735 00:47:27.360 --> 00:47:32.280 interfere in primitive planets unless they have local government approval. 736 00:47:32.280 --> 00:47:35.880 And the Grays now have local government approval to do 737 00:47:35.960 --> 00:47:38.000 certain things. But I don't think they can do anything 738 00:47:38.000 --> 00:47:43.440 they want down here. Even still, I think they're also 739 00:47:43.599 --> 00:47:46.039 there's subject to the will of other powerful alien species. 740 00:47:47.760 --> 00:47:51.679 Now, have you seen an increase in implants since you 741 00:47:51.880 --> 00:47:53.760 first started researching this? 742 00:47:55.599 --> 00:47:58.960 It's hard to say. I know that that most people 743 00:47:59.519 --> 00:48:02.480 that to see me have implants, because that's a that's 744 00:48:02.519 --> 00:48:08.199 a totally, very highly enriched, pre selected sample of people 745 00:48:08.840 --> 00:48:15.039 towards having implants or abduction activity. But as far as 746 00:48:16.039 --> 00:48:21.719 an increase in in abduction and the prevalence of implants 747 00:48:21.719 --> 00:48:25.800 in the general population, I think so, But I don't 748 00:48:25.599 --> 00:48:30.079 don't I don't know. I don't know how to how 749 00:48:30.079 --> 00:48:36.559 to prove that. We'd have to do a study involving 750 00:48:36.559 --> 00:48:39.559 a large number of people to prove that. Certainly the 751 00:48:39.639 --> 00:48:43.320 number of UFO sightings has gone up, and most likely 752 00:48:44.199 --> 00:48:48.280 most most of those UFO sightings are abduction related. I mean, 753 00:48:48.719 --> 00:48:51.679 I have reasonably. They fly thousands of sorties a day 754 00:48:51.880 --> 00:48:54.519 for supporting the abduction program. 755 00:48:55.960 --> 00:48:58.599 Now, do you think that it's possible that we will 756 00:48:58.639 --> 00:49:03.199 have disclosure from them and not it won't come from us. 757 00:49:05.679 --> 00:49:09.199 Yeah, it's possible. It's quite possible. I know. I've been 758 00:49:09.199 --> 00:49:11.400 saying that for years, that that the Aliens are going 759 00:49:11.440 --> 00:49:15.519 to disclose themselves eventually if we don't. And it's possible 760 00:49:15.519 --> 00:49:17.719 if the Aliens give them an ultimatum that they've got 761 00:49:17.719 --> 00:49:20.760 to disclose or or or we will, and that would 762 00:49:20.800 --> 00:49:24.119 certainly get the ball rolling, don't I don't know that 763 00:49:24.199 --> 00:49:25.440 for a fact, but it's possible. 764 00:49:26.920 --> 00:49:29.920 Very interesting now, Steve, I want to thank you again 765 00:49:30.039 --> 00:49:33.239 so much for coming on tonight, and could you give 766 00:49:33.280 --> 00:49:35.719 everybody your websites before you head out. 767 00:49:38.119 --> 00:49:44.320 Yeah. Sure, it's it's www dot Alien Evidence, Inc. I 768 00:49:44.559 --> 00:49:50.119 n C dot webs dot com. And it needs a 769 00:49:50.159 --> 00:49:53.480 little work at present, but it's got a couple of 770 00:49:53.519 --> 00:49:59.320 papers on it on my implant and patient sixteen's implant 771 00:49:59.360 -->

00:50:02.039 that I think people that are scientifically minded would find 772 00:50:02.199 --> 00:50:08.480 very interesting. Both of them were sophisticated nanotechnological devices with 773 00:50:09.719 --> 00:50:14.639 large amounts of carbon nanotubes in the interior, and I 774 00:50:14.800 --> 00:50:16.599 urge everybody to take a look at those and there's 775 00:50:16.599 --> 00:50:22.079 there's ample evidence from my analysis that both the those 776 00:50:22.079 --> 00:50:23.320 pieces were from off planet. 777 00:50:25.199 --> 00:50:27.559 Very good, and I want to thank you so much 778 00:50:27.559 --> 00:50:30.199 again for coming on tonight, Steve, and you have an 779 00:50:30.280 --> 00:50:31.480 excellent rest of your night. 780 00:50:32.559 --> 00:50:36.559 Okay, you too, and thank you for inviting me tonight. 781 00:50:36.599 --> 00:50:38.920 I want to welcome back to the show, host of 782 00:50:38.960 --> 00:50:43.400 the Steiger Perspective, founder of sixty Seconds for Humanity, and 783 00:50:43.440 --> 00:50:47.679 our favorite philosopher, Wayne Steiger. How you doing tonight, Wayne. 784 00:50:47.480 --> 00:50:50.079 Well, doing well? Thank you for having me back on, Chris. 785 00:50:50.079 --> 00:50:50.599 How are you? 786 00:50:51.079 --> 00:50:53.280 Oh, I'm good. I want to thank you again for 787 00:50:53.400 --> 00:50:56.920 joining us. It's always a pleasure always have a great conversation. 788 00:50:57.639 --> 00:51:00.480 And you have been on a few times. But you 789 00:51:00.480 --> 00:51:03.800 know I've got some new subscribers since then, so just 790 00:51:03.840 --> 00:51:06.800 give us a brief bit about what brought you down 791 00:51:06.840 --> 00:51:07.880 your current path. 792 00:51:09.239 --> 00:51:15.000 Yeah, I think you know, I was much like everybody else. 793 00:51:16.239 --> 00:51:20.599 Everyone wants success, you know, that's how you look at life, 794 00:51:22.400 --> 00:51:26.360 and mine was in that course. I had a course 795 00:51:26.480 --> 00:51:30.599 planned out and you know, went that way. Was you know, 796 00:51:30.800 --> 00:51:33.960 devout Christian or at least that's what I you know, 797 00:51:34.239 --> 00:51:40.320 proclaimed like everybody else, and then I don't know, it began, 798 00:51:40.480 --> 00:51:45.760 I guess for myself back in the early nineties, for myself, 799 00:51:45.800 --> 00:51:50.239 as things begin well, this beginning, they did not add up. 800 00:51:50.960 --> 00:51:56.599 They were more well, let's say, ambiguous in the structure. 801 00:51:57.000 --> 00:52:02.880 Long story. Short after the the New Millennium, things just 802 00:52:03.000 --> 00:52:06.760 began to accelerate. And I don't know, I call it 803 00:52:06.800 --> 00:52:11.480 coming out of the godspell. And I suddenly realized that 804 00:52:11.800 --> 00:52:15.760 I had spent the majority of my life energy pursuing 805 00:52:16.400 --> 00:52:25.719 worthless pursuits. You know, wealth, money, status, social it's what 806 00:52:25.760 --> 00:52:30.760 everyone strives for. And I think I just got fortunate 807 00:52:30.840 --> 00:52:35.880 enough that was woke up, realized that Christianity was a 808 00:52:35.920 --> 00:52:41.760 false religion. And when you have basically that safety net, 809 00:52:41.840 --> 00:52:44.559 because that's what religion does for you, It's a safety net. 810 00:52:45.000 --> 00:52:47.559 You know, if everything else goes to hell in the handbasket, 811 00:52:47.800 --> 00:52:51.280 doesn't matter. I got my religion, and you know, when 812 00:52:51.280 --> 00:52:53.639 you don't have that, you know, then all of a sudden, 813 00:52:53.679 --> 00:52:58.000 the trap door opens and you go crap. So it 814 00:52:58.159 --> 00:53:03.039 causes you to really begin to seek out, Well, well, 815 00:53:03.119 --> 00:53:05.760 then what is the purpose? What is your purpose? Why 816 00:53:05.760 --> 00:53:10.559 are you here? How is this all related? For what purpose? 817 00:53:10.960 --> 00:53:14.719 You know? And I tell people today, you know, it's 818 00:53:15.119 --> 00:53:18.000 they say, well, do you believe in God? And I said, well, 819 00:53:18.679 --> 00:53:21.639 I both don't believe in God, and I both believe 820 00:53:21.679 --> 00:53:24.480 in God. I believe that there is something above God. 821 00:53:24.639 --> 00:53:29.280 All gods are a man construct. And I contend that 822 00:53:29.840 --> 00:53:33.639 if there is a God that you know out of 823 00:53:33.679 --> 00:53:37.320 my religion, well they have they been really scarce, particularly 824 00:53:37.400 --> 00:53:43.480 last two thousand years, no evidence. So I have pursued 825 00:53:44.400 --> 00:53:48.280 the one thing that I think most people fear, Chris death. 826 00:53:49.639 --> 00:53:55.440 And so when you don't have the religion anymore for guidelines, 827 00:53:55.480 --> 00:53:57.400 you have to begin to look at it. As I 828 00:53:57.480 --> 00:53:59.840 tell people, no one gets out of this life alive. 829 00:54:00.760 --> 00:54:06.119 It just doesn't happen. And so we all are hoping 830 00:54:06.719 --> 00:54:13.880 that there's a transmutation of consciousness, of our memories, our 831 00:54:13.960 --> 00:54:18.199 existence into something else. And that's what I've dedicated my 832 00:54:18.239 --> 00:54:18.880 life to now. 833 00:54:20.400 --> 00:54:24.360 So that brings us perfectly into one of the first 834 00:54:24.360 --> 00:54:27.280 things I want to talk about. What are we here 835 00:54:27.320 --> 00:54:31.719 for in your experience? I mean, is this some kind 836 00:54:31.719 --> 00:54:35.440 of you know, training ground for the next level? I mean, 837 00:54:35.519 --> 00:54:41.280 are we just some sick experiment for some alien species? 838 00:54:41.360 --> 00:54:45.639 Are we just a hologram? Are we projecting everything as 839 00:54:45.679 --> 00:54:49.599 we go, are we creating our own reality? I mean, 840 00:54:50.119 -->

00:54:52.480 what do you think is really going on with our 841 00:54:52.559 --> 00:54:53.440 existence here? 842 00:54:53.920 --> 00:54:57.840 So I've been reading some great books. You just bring up. 843 00:54:57.880 --> 00:55:03.719 The Holographic Universe by Michael Tablet Talbot is a required reading, 844 00:55:03.800 --> 00:55:07.920 I think for everyone, and you know Michael Newton, Doctor 845 00:55:07.960 --> 00:55:12.440 Newton's book The Journey of the Souls is another one. 846 00:55:12.960 --> 00:55:18.800 And I'm conflicted in both of the aspects. Number One, 847 00:55:19.239 --> 00:55:21.800 I think we do live in a hologram. I think 848 00:55:21.840 --> 00:55:25.199 we live in the idea or the thought of something 849 00:55:25.239 --> 00:55:30.480 greater than ourselves. It comes into that whole question, all right, 850 00:55:30.960 --> 00:55:34.039 So do you believe in prophecy? You know, that's what 851 00:55:34.280 --> 00:55:38.800 I used to Well, then that lends itself to predestination. 852 00:55:38.960 --> 00:55:42.880 And if you believe in predestination, then really free will 853 00:55:43.000 --> 00:55:46.280 has very little to play in it because ultimately the 854 00:55:46.320 --> 00:55:51.000 predestination of destiny will be played out. And that is 855 00:55:51.239 --> 00:55:56.039 a matrix. That is what a matrix is. And I 856 00:55:56.039 --> 00:55:58.440 don't like that. I don't like that construct. I don't 857 00:55:58.480 --> 00:56:05.000 like the idea of somehow another coming back over and 858 00:56:05.039 --> 00:56:08.719 over again to somehow learn some sort of uh you know, 859 00:56:08.920 --> 00:56:13.320 karmic uh lesson. You know, I don't like I have 860 00:56:13.400 --> 00:56:15.760 a problem with that, But Chris, I also have a 861 00:56:15.800 --> 00:56:19.559 problem with the fact that one lifetime is not enough. 862 00:56:22.480 --> 00:56:28.760 It's just not enough. So what is the purpose? You 863 00:56:28.800 --> 00:56:30.840 know that The thing that I challenge all of my 864 00:56:30.960 --> 00:56:34.719 listeners to is to answer the following question, where does 865 00:56:34.840 --> 00:56:41.679 your thought originate from? Where does your thought? 866 00:56:41.719 --> 00:56:44.039 I mean, let me ask you, where does your thought 867 00:56:44.079 --> 00:56:49.639 originally create consciousness? Or does consciousness create what? You know? 868 00:56:49.960 --> 00:56:57.400 We manifest Recently, uh, there was in physicians I forget 869 00:56:57.400 --> 00:57:01.480 which magazine it was in, but they have made a 870 00:57:01.519 --> 00:57:07.039 breakthrough in more understanding of the brain itself, and it 871 00:57:07.039 --> 00:57:13.800 appears that our brain actually exists in multiple dimensions. Now 872 00:57:13.840 --> 00:57:17.079 that brings on a whole lot of interesting things the brain. 873 00:57:17.599 --> 00:57:21.280 You know, the very basic rudiment of our brain is 874 00:57:21.320 --> 00:57:26.119 the reptilian stem, and then you get into the hippocampus, 875 00:57:26.159 --> 00:57:31.320 and then you get into the lobes and when you 876 00:57:31.360 --> 00:57:39.800 look at the panal gland. I contend that if consciousness 877 00:57:39.840 --> 00:57:47.440 exists in a tangible manifestation, which would be our brain, 878 00:57:48.599 --> 00:57:52.840 that brain is emitting an electrical signal. I think it's 879 00:57:52.880 --> 00:58:02.519 four point eight amps. We know that the neurons in 880 00:58:02.599 --> 00:58:09.760 our brains are actually surrounded by electromagnetic fields, So each 881 00:58:10.079 --> 00:58:15.119 thought that is generated is transformed to the nuclei of 882 00:58:15.239 --> 00:58:19.119 this neuron, which is quite fascinating when you look at 883 00:58:19.119 --> 00:58:21.639 the structure of them, and then then to know that 884 00:58:21.960 --> 00:58:26.559 these neurons interact only to a destination that they are 885 00:58:26.639 --> 00:58:30.880 designed for, and all the other trillions of neurons that 886 00:58:30.920 --> 00:58:34.800 they meet they reject until it hits to the right point. 887 00:58:35.320 --> 00:58:41.760 And the question becomes, so does spirit soul? Is that 888 00:58:41.800 --> 00:58:45.960 what we define consciousness as is that the soul is 889 00:58:46.000 --> 00:58:51.440 that the spirit essence of what makes you, Chris, you, me, myself. 890 00:58:52.239 --> 00:58:54.639 The thing the reality is is that you and I 891 00:58:54.840 --> 00:58:59.639 do not exist in the same reality. We share a 892 00:59:00.400 --> 00:59:04.159 like reality, but I can never occupy your space and 893 00:59:04.199 --> 00:59:05.719 you can never occupy mind. 894 00:59:06.920 --> 00:59:13.519 And being attached to our body, there's so many things 895 00:59:13.599 --> 00:59:17.760 that our consciousness can do for our bodies that ancients 896 00:59:17.800 --> 00:59:23.159 have tapped into that we have long since lost. And 897 00:59:23.199 --> 00:59:26.880 it seems like you know, they're you know, those in 898 00:59:27.039 --> 00:59:32.280 power are trying to suppress those natural abilities that consciousness 899 00:59:32.800 --> 00:59:34.239 has to give us. 900 00:59:34.679 --> 00:59:39.719 Yeah, And to amplify your point, here's the thing that 901 00:59:39.760 --> 00:59:43.280 I challenge all people with is that if you pray, 902 00:59:45.159 --> 00:59:48.639 a lot of people do I used to. I still meditate. 903 00:59:48.719 --> 00:59:59.920 Now what you're doing is simply practicing telepathic communication. And there's, 904 01:00:00.000 --> 01:00:02.760 you know, the way to answer that. You can't refute 905 01:00:02.800 --> 01:00:06.039 me on this. And if you think you're hearing from God, 906 01:00:06.760 --> 01:00:09.880 then guess what you've connected to a greater consciousness that 907 01:00:10.119 --> 01:00:13.480 now the two of you are communicating telepathically. 908 01:00:16.239 -->

01:00:19.880 Well, that brings us to the spirit world. That brings 909 01:00:19.960 --> 01:00:27.119 us to communication with something other than humans, possibly, whether 910 01:00:27.159 --> 01:00:33.760 it be interdimensional beings or another version of humanity. Whether 911 01:00:33.840 --> 01:00:40.440 the ancients really were communicating, they believed it. Some of 912 01:00:40.480 --> 01:00:44.920 our people in power today believe in this. So there 913 01:00:44.920 --> 01:00:48.280 has got to be something too, a communication with a 914 01:00:48.320 --> 01:00:49.119 spirit world. 915 01:00:49.800 --> 01:00:52.599 I absolutely agree with you. I am reading this book 916 01:00:52.639 --> 01:01:01.480 called Multidimensional Man by Jurgen Ziewey, and it's a fascinating book. 917 01:01:03.199 --> 01:01:06.880 He really gets into a lot of what the journey 918 01:01:06.920 --> 01:01:09.360 of the souls. You know, I used to be afraid 919 01:01:09.360 --> 01:01:14.840 of death. Most people are. My wife works in the 920 01:01:14.880 --> 01:01:20.199 medical industry and in her field, a lot of people 921 01:01:20.320 --> 01:01:26.239 pass on and there is a syndrome that virtually, I 922 01:01:26.239 --> 01:01:29.280 can tell you most of your listeners will most likely 923 01:01:29.360 --> 01:01:34.760 encounter unless they get over it. It's called the death syndrome. 924 01:01:35.559 --> 01:01:39.639 And this is what happens to people because they're so 925 01:01:39.920 --> 01:01:44.840 afraid of dying that they become into an agitated state. 926 01:01:44.920 --> 01:01:49.320 Their spirit literally becomes agitated to where it affects the 927 01:01:49.360 --> 01:01:53.360 physical body. And what they have to do is basically 928 01:01:53.400 --> 01:01:57.320 give drugs to quiet that person's mind down so that 929 01:01:57.400 --> 01:02:06.119 the separation process can take place. So spirits do they exist? Well, 930 01:02:06.199 --> 01:02:08.199 I think you have to get into this whole thing 931 01:02:09.480 --> 01:02:11.800 once I begin to face death and look at it. 932 01:02:12.400 --> 01:02:16.639 If death exists, in which it obviously does, because that's 933 01:02:16.679 --> 01:02:22.679 how we're getting out. Death has to be alive. Do 934 01:02:22.719 --> 01:02:25.639 you think about that. I mean, if it's a spirit 935 01:02:25.760 --> 01:02:31.039 of death, then that spirit is alive. It can't be dead. 936 01:02:32.639 --> 01:02:40.480 So I, particularly in the Western culture and civilization, we're 937 01:02:40.599 --> 01:02:44.559 taught to fear death from the minute you're born to 938 01:02:44.639 --> 01:02:47.920 the minute you get to your grave. You're you're You're 939 01:02:47.960 --> 01:02:51.480 taught to fear that because in essence, what it's saying 940 01:02:51.639 --> 01:02:54.719 is that you're not going to exist after that. And 941 01:02:54.760 --> 01:02:57.119 that's why when you and I first started talking about 942 01:02:57.199 --> 01:03:00.760 the whole process, is consciousness trands me you to dead death? 943 01:03:03.079 --> 01:03:07.960 I don't know now. I contend that there are spirits. 944 01:03:08.360 --> 01:03:12.920 I believe that we all have spirit guides. We're on 945 01:03:12.960 --> 01:03:19.280 a journey. And you know, reality, Chris is based upon 946 01:03:19.599 --> 01:03:25.960 five inputs. Three are chemical, two are electrical, and that's 947 01:03:26.000 --> 01:03:29.320 what we sense with everything of reality of our brains. 948 01:03:30.199 --> 01:03:33.920 We sense the chemical around us that inputs what we 949 01:03:34.079 --> 01:03:37.880 considered to be taste, et cetera. And then you look 950 01:03:37.920 --> 01:03:43.559 at the electrical input, which is thought sight. That's what 951 01:03:43.719 --> 01:03:44.599 reality is. 952 01:03:46.760 --> 01:03:50.360 Now. Earlier you were talking about how you don't want 953 01:03:50.360 --> 01:03:53.360 to be basically recycled, you don't want to come back 954 01:03:54.039 --> 01:03:58.280 or you know, reincarnation. What are your thoughts on that? 955 01:03:58.400 --> 01:04:04.320 Do you think that our consciousness is basically placed back 956 01:04:04.360 --> 01:04:08.599 here until we learn what we're supposed to learn in 957 01:04:08.599 --> 01:04:09.119 this life. 958 01:04:09.719 --> 01:04:13.960 Well, according to doctor Newton, and he has, you know, 959 01:04:14.320 --> 01:04:18.800 thirty plus years of his practice in doing what they 960 01:04:18.840 --> 01:04:24.679 call a regression hypnosis. And in this book here he 961 01:04:24.760 --> 01:04:29.960 gives thirty different case histories, people who did not know 962 01:04:30.079 --> 01:04:34.599 each other, not even anything close. But the uncanny thing 963 01:04:34.719 --> 01:04:37.440 is is that they all reported virtually the same thing. 964 01:04:39.760 --> 01:04:44.599 So this gets a little weird. What's going on here? 965 01:04:45.159 --> 01:04:45.480 Now? 966 01:04:45.880 --> 01:04:51.599 They contend that when we leave our bodies, we are 967 01:04:51.639 --> 01:04:54.840 in a state of shock. The same way that we 968 01:04:54.840 --> 01:04:57.639 were in a state of shock. When we're born. You 969 01:04:57.679 --> 01:05:02.599 can only be born once. You cannot endure the experience 970 01:05:02.639 --> 01:05:06.280 of what we call the human birth process, it'll kill you. 971 01:05:07.920 --> 01:05:14.760 So when you depart your body, and sometimes people have 972 01:05:16.320 --> 01:05:24.920 that fear is so embedded that it literally freezes their 973 01:05:25.400 --> 01:05:30.559 spirits when they depart the body, and it takes them 974 01:05:30.599 --> 01:05:34.599 sometimes a while to begin to accept it. Now there's 975 01:05:34.719 --> 01:05:37.679 others who they say are old souls that are about 976 01:05:37.719 --> 01:05:42.199 to get promotion. Apparently the progression is is that there 977 01:05:42.280 -->

01:05:48.239 is a progression. I'm a teacher. That's what I have 978 01:05:48.400 --> 01:05:54.480 always been, apparently, and now according to these different patients, 979 01:05:55.239 --> 01:06:00.239 when you get there, there is a pool that begins 980 01:06:00.360 --> 01:06:03.960 that they say is it comes from almost like here, 981 01:06:04.880 --> 01:06:09.480 and it pulls you. There's an energy force and it's 982 01:06:09.639 --> 01:06:12.760 one that once you tap into it, they say that 983 01:06:12.880 --> 01:06:19.039 it's the most peaceful thing. It's many of them describe 984 01:06:19.079 --> 01:06:22.719 it as like a warm blanket coming out of the dryer. 985 01:06:24.760 --> 01:06:29.039 And that we go back and we're actually all part 986 01:06:29.719 --> 01:06:34.840 of tribes. There's no more than twenty in a tribe 987 01:06:35.039 --> 01:06:41.920 or a pod, and each pod or tribe has a teacher. 988 01:06:43.320 --> 01:06:46.440 And as we go through these life for aggressions. It 989 01:06:46.519 --> 01:06:52.800 is our progressions. It's apparently our choice, but you have 990 01:06:52.880 --> 01:06:55.800 to do it in order to progress. Now, that's what 991 01:06:55.920 --> 01:06:59.719 this says, and there's a lot more to it. There 992 01:06:59.800 --> 01:07:04.440 is no God in the sense of what the Judeo 993 01:07:04.559 --> 01:07:11.400 Christian or the Islamic or the Vedic projections of what 994 01:07:11.519 --> 01:07:16.880 God or God's are. There is something that permeates everything 995 01:07:17.480 --> 01:07:22.880 in the spirit realm. It's everywhere. Everyone knows it, everyone 996 01:07:23.000 --> 01:07:27.800 is aware of it. There is apparently a higher counsel. 997 01:07:28.119 --> 01:07:32.239 Each of us apparently do go before and given accounting. 998 01:07:32.559 --> 01:07:38.280 But it's not a prosecutical procedure. It's actually one that 999 01:07:38.360 --> 01:07:42.000 they say is interactive and engaging. Well, look at this 1000 01:07:42.320 --> 01:07:45.199 situation that you faced in your life. Why did you 1001 01:07:45.280 --> 01:07:48.719 make those decisions when you knew that you had ultimate 1002 01:07:48.880 --> 01:07:53.519 other choices? Why did you choose that particular path? Those 1003 01:07:53.519 --> 01:07:58.000 are the type of things. The whole thing of what 1004 01:07:58.079 --> 01:08:04.480 they say about karma is not what is there. There 1005 01:08:04.599 --> 01:08:11.920 is nothing that's transferable. There are those spirits. They say 1006 01:08:11.960 --> 01:08:17.479 that they become contaminated and they have to be segregated 1007 01:08:18.079 --> 01:08:22.520 from the other souls, and they're kind of put into 1008 01:08:22.560 --> 01:08:28.239 a place much to akin to what they created here, 1009 01:08:28.760 --> 01:08:32.680 and we're talking about murderers. We're talking about those who 1010 01:08:32.720 --> 01:08:37.640 find cruelty. They go into what they call an extensive 1011

01:08:37.680 --> 01:08:42.560 rehab program. Basically what is So that's one thought. Now 1012 01:08:42.920 --> 01:08:49.479 you read Zawi's book, and I've experienced myself through the 1013 01:08:49.560 --> 01:08:54.199 use of LSD back in the seventies of astro projection, 1014 01:08:55.800 --> 01:09:00.560 got very good at that, and I saw a different 1015 01:09:01.600 --> 01:09:06.079 type of realm. I saw a realm where there were 1016 01:09:06.399 --> 01:09:14.680 many spirits, various sizes, various looks. But I do know 1017 01:09:14.760 --> 01:09:18.399 that there is something that's tangible and real. So I'm 1018 01:09:18.680 --> 01:09:20.680 sorry for taking up the time, but that kind of 1019 01:09:20.720 --> 01:09:25.439 gives you the concentric view of what there seems to 1020 01:09:25.439 --> 01:09:29.000 be awaiting all of us. I don't know. 1021 01:09:29.960 --> 01:09:34.680 Well, let's take that a little bit deeper. Now, going 1022 01:09:34.720 --> 01:09:38.880 beyond the spirit world, what about entities that may have 1023 01:09:39.159 --> 01:09:43.520 always been here, arconic entities or what some may call 1024 01:09:43.720 --> 01:09:48.840 demonic entities. You know, entities of nature are something that 1025 01:09:49.119 --> 01:09:53.319 is beyond our dimension, that may have always been around 1026 01:09:53.960 --> 01:09:56.920 and could possibly be influencing humanity. 1027 01:09:58.000 --> 01:10:04.960 It's interesting. F Paul Wilson uh great, great science fiction writer. 1028 01:10:05.279 --> 01:10:08.479 He has a book called Night World. I recommend it, 1029 01:10:09.760 --> 01:10:16.079 but in his books he describes what he calls the otherness. 1030 01:10:17.439 --> 01:10:27.680 This is a consciousness that they're indifferent. They really don't 1031 01:10:27.720 --> 01:10:36.560 care humanity. It's consciousness, it's essence, Its energy is something 1032 01:10:36.640 --> 01:10:41.720 to be prized. But it's like, all right, the thing 1033 01:10:41.840 --> 01:10:46.560 gets you fine, if it gets you fine, And that 1034 01:10:46.640 --> 01:10:50.560 kind of puts us into a whole plane. I contend, Chris, 1035 01:10:51.600 --> 01:10:59.399 no matter the greatest philosophers, the greatest christ conscious Buddhas, 1036 01:10:59.479 --> 01:11:04.479 whatever you want to say, that have been here, I 1037 01:11:04.520 --> 01:11:09.960 don't even think they broached what is still yet for 1038 01:11:10.079 --> 01:11:12.760 us to even conceive. I agree with you. I think 1039 01:11:12.800 --> 01:11:16.079 there is something I think Chris, that it's not good 1040 01:11:16.119 --> 01:11:20.680 and evil that is so finite. If that's where people's 1041 01:11:21.239 --> 01:11:27.600 whole construct of their reality is predicated on good evil, Yeah, 1042 01:11:27.720 --> 01:11:30.760 you know, you're going to be the uberus all over. 1043 01:11:31.079 --> 01:11:33.640 You're going to be in a continual You're going to 1044 01:11:33.720 --> 01:11:36.439 be eating your own tail. That's what it's going to be. 1045 01:11:38.439 --> 01:11:44.000 That's insanity, and isn't isn't insanity defined an experiment that 1046 01:11:44.159 --> 01:11:46.920 you'd continue to do the same experiment over and over 1047 01:11:46.960 --> 01:11:53.199 again expecting a different result. Right, Well, then where does reincarnation. 1048 01:11:53.399 --> 01:11:55.479 There was a guy and I believe it was that 1049 01:11:55.680 --> 01:12:00.439 cal Tech did a calculation experiment and you said, well, 1050 01:12:00.520 --> 01:12:02.439 let's just go back and if you take the Adam 1051 01:12:02.439 --> 01:12:05.920 and Eve store right now, no one does, but you 1052 01:12:05.960 --> 01:12:11.039 have to go with some baseline. Where the hell did 1053 01:12:11.039 --> 01:12:18.439 all the souls come from? Seriously, I mean we're coming 1054 01:12:18.479 --> 01:12:21.000 in the back door somewhere. I mean, come on, you know, 1055 01:12:22.760 --> 01:12:25.800 so something's going on here? I mean are we being 1056 01:12:25.880 --> 01:12:28.439 set up? Not set up that's the wrong word. Are 1057 01:12:28.479 --> 01:12:35.840 we anticipating something on a cosmic scale that you have 1058 01:12:35.960 --> 01:12:40.560 to have gone through this process in order to absorb 1059 01:12:40.920 --> 01:12:43.520 or to be able to move forward. I don't know. 1060 01:12:44.800 --> 01:12:48.680 That's very interesting, And you know you mentioned it earlier. 1061 01:12:48.720 --> 01:12:52.359 One of the things, the hugest things that holds everybody 1062 01:12:52.439 --> 01:12:58.159 back as a planet is religion. I believe that it 1063 01:12:58.279 --> 01:13:05.359 was created to enslave and keep us separate and at war, 1064 01:13:06.439 --> 01:13:11.239 because to me, if there is a deity that requires worship, 1065 01:13:11.439 --> 01:13:14.840 that's just a big red flag there. To me, I 1066 01:13:14.880 --> 01:13:17.399 don't see why if it has infinite love that it 1067 01:13:17.439 --> 01:13:21.560 would require your worship. And you know, what are your 1068 01:13:21.560 --> 01:13:22.079 thoughts on that? 1069 01:13:22.560 --> 01:13:25.720 Oh? You know, so I was a devoted Christian. I 1070 01:13:25.720 --> 01:13:29.079 mean I was one of those people that supported Kenneth Copeland. 1071 01:13:29.199 --> 01:13:32.920 I was in the Word of faith cult is what 1072 01:13:32.960 --> 01:13:38.159 I would call it. So I believed in this Old 1073 01:13:38.199 --> 01:13:44.880 Testament God that uh and it never was explained how 1074 01:13:44.960 --> 01:13:48.359 it left one covenant and then started another new covenant. 1075 01:13:48.399 --> 01:13:52.479 But that's where I believed at And when I finally 1076 01:13:52.560 --> 01:13:58.479 realized that a the story of the christ crucifixion ever happened, 1077 01:13:59.079 --> 01:14:03.000 it it's you know, we can go into that in death. 1078 01:14:03.039 --> 01:14:07.119 But here's the

problem. So we have right this. You 1079 01:14:07.159 --> 01:14:11.000 see this plaque right here, This plaque right here is 1080 01:14:11.039 --> 01:14:14.479 First Corinthians thirteen four through eight. You know, I have 1081 01:14:14.560 --> 01:14:18.000 it up there because if I ever meet the God 1082 01:14:18.319 --> 01:14:22.760 that that wrote, that's a god I can dig. I 1083 01:14:22.840 --> 01:14:25.159 tell people there isn't a God I've met in this 1084 01:14:25.239 --> 01:14:30.640 world that I like. How can I so called worship 1085 01:14:30.680 --> 01:14:34.920 of God that I don't even like? And this Christian God, well, 1086 01:14:35.000 --> 01:14:38.960 that's the problem. The Christians never had a god. They 1087 01:14:39.039 --> 01:14:44.520 had to steal a god from a conquered people that 1088 01:14:45.079 --> 01:14:49.319 you know were listen, the Hebrew God was not the 1089 01:14:49.319 --> 01:14:51.760 god of the world. That at the same time that 1090 01:14:51.800 --> 01:14:55.760 the Hebrews were coming about, we had the Samaran gods. 1091 01:14:56.159 --> 01:14:58.560 But no one wants to talk about that. So where 1092 01:14:58.600 --> 01:15:01.920 did this Hebrew god come from from? And what made him? 1093 01:15:01.960 --> 01:15:05.199 Suddenly that the cat who gives ten commandments, who says 1094 01:15:05.239 --> 01:15:10.000 thou shalt not kill. But yet in the very next book, 1095 01:15:10.680 --> 01:15:17.479 he's commanding these Hebrews to commit genocide, to cut fetuses 1096 01:15:17.600 --> 01:15:21.600 out of pregnant women's bodies, and to crush the skulls, 1097 01:15:22.199 --> 01:15:24.680 and and and and and it gets even worse than 1098 01:15:24.720 --> 01:15:29.079 that then, and you're reading the book of Deuteronomy, it's 1099 01:15:29.079 --> 01:15:35.399 there and Exodus is that. Then the women, the young girls, 1100 01:15:35.920 --> 01:15:39.840 they're sold into the sex slavery to satisfy the lust 1101 01:15:40.399 --> 01:15:44.720 of the Hebrew soldiers. This is a hell of a 1102 01:15:44.760 --> 01:15:50.640 loving god. And somehow another we make this freaking miraculous 1103 01:15:50.840 --> 01:15:57.439 jump to this some alien hybrid that supposedly rapes a 1104 01:15:57.520 --> 01:16:02.920 twelve year old girl, inseminates her with alien DNA that 1105 01:16:03.039 --> 01:16:07.359 produces a hybrid human that somehow another is supposed to 1106 01:16:07.439 --> 01:16:11.319 deliver us from what I don't know, but claims to 1107 01:16:11.359 --> 01:16:14.720 be the direct descendants of a Hebrew god. 1108 01:16:16.560 --> 01:16:22.920 No, yeah, it does seem that there's two different gods 1109 01:16:22.960 --> 01:16:26.039 that we're dealing with between the Old and New Testament. 1110 01:16:28.079 --> 01:16:33.239 There's just so much I mean, war he would you know, 1111 01:16:33.560 --> 01:16:36.119 a god that would command war or for you to 1112 01:16:36.239 --> 01:16:39.479 kill somebody, or or any kind of death. It doesn't 1113 01:16:39.520 --> 01:16:44.079 make sense that that is would be a loving creator. 1114 01:16:44.720 --> 01:16:49.399 No, and mean pet what now I was gonna? You know, 1115 01:16:49.439 --> 01:16:58.800 And the dedication of Solomon's temple, they slaughtered bulls, rams, goats, lambs. 1116 01:17:00.119 --> 01:17:04.800 They said for eight days straight that the blood flowed 1117 01:17:05.199 --> 01:17:11.239 out of the temple into the streets. Now I never 1118 01:17:11.960 --> 01:17:16.560 saw that when I was in that religion. Communion is 1119 01:17:16.880 --> 01:17:23.520 nothing more than symbolism for cannibalism. It really is. You 1120 01:17:23.560 --> 01:17:27.840 can give me all the esoteric teachings behind it. I 1121 01:17:27.920 --> 01:17:30.720 get it, but let's get real serious about that's what 1122 01:17:30.760 --> 01:17:35.479 it is. So I don't dig any god that requires 1123 01:17:35.520 --> 01:17:42.000 a blood sacrifice me drinking blood. No, I renounced that God. 1124 01:17:42.119 --> 01:17:46.479 I renounced this Jesus character because it never existed, you know. 1125 01:17:46.560 --> 01:17:49.840 And here's my challenge to your listeners who are Christians. 1126 01:17:50.680 --> 01:17:57.079 So here is three questions. I asked, Number one, which 1127 01:17:57.399 --> 01:18:05.960 genius that's g n Us of man Homo sinned against God? 1128 01:18:07.079 --> 01:18:14.880 Was it Neanderthal, Chromagna, Dennison, sapiens sapiens? Which one? All right, 1129 01:18:15.960 --> 01:18:20.079 now let's continue. So the next question, so God is 1130 01:18:20.119 --> 01:18:26.279 a Christian. Yes, No. The next one the ambiguity of 1131 01:18:26.600 --> 01:18:32.079 this supposed savior, the true name of the Christ. You know, 1132 01:18:32.199 --> 01:18:36.560 it's real interesting. In the Gospel of John, they go 1133 01:18:36.720 --> 01:18:42.159 to great links while this fictitious person as they painted 1134 01:18:42.239 --> 01:18:45.039 the scene, and actually it's Francis Bacon who really did 1135 01:18:45.039 --> 01:18:47.199 the job, did a great job on it. But I 1136 01:18:47.279 --> 01:18:52.159 digress of a supposed crucifixion, and at the moment of 1137 01:18:52.239 --> 01:18:58.960 departure of death, the individual on this torture chamber, Rack 1138 01:19:00.079 --> 01:19:04.079 says in the Hebrew tongue, you know, my God, my God. 1139 01:19:04.119 --> 01:19:06.880 Wile host Alfrid say they did it from the English 1140 01:19:07.119 --> 01:19:15.039 to the Hebrew. But yet prior to that one chapter, 1141 01:19:15.119 --> 01:19:20.600 prior to that, supposedly pontious pilot had them put above 1142 01:19:20.640 --> 01:19:27.119 the cross the three names of this Zamasiah. What are 1143 01:19:27.159 --> 01:19:35.279 those three names? They don't exist, They're not in the book. 1144 01:19:36.279 --> 01:19:40.800 Wouldn't that clear up all the ambiguity, all the arguments. 1145 01:19:41.640 --> 01:19:45.359

And here's what the bottom line of it is, Chris Man, 1146 01:19:47.079 --> 01:19:52.960 Homo sapiens sapiens are the only species that does not 1147 01:19:53.359 --> 01:19:57.520 know the moment of our creation, the moment we came 1148 01:19:57.560 --> 01:20:04.000 into existence. Contend it's because of this amnesia that all 1149 01:20:04.079 --> 01:20:08.039 religion has been founded on. If we knew our true origins, 1150 01:20:08.119 --> 01:20:10.159 there would be no need for a religion period. 1151 01:20:11.800 --> 01:20:14.640 Well, there would be no need for a lot of things. 1152 01:20:14.720 --> 01:20:17.439 I mean, it would change, It would change our whole 1153 01:20:17.520 --> 01:20:21.840 reality if we actually knew what we are, where we 1154 01:20:21.920 --> 01:20:27.479 came from. I have an interview tomorrow with doctor Lorraine Day. 1155 01:20:27.520 --> 01:20:29.960 I'm not sure if you are familiar with her. She 1156 01:20:30.079 --> 01:20:34.119 cured herself of cancer and she helps others, but she 1157 01:20:34.279 --> 01:20:37.640 just does it with her diet and positively. She cured 1158 01:20:37.640 --> 01:20:41.520 herself basically with her with her diet and her her 1159 01:20:41.560 --> 01:20:46.039 power of thought, and anybody can do this. We can 1160 01:20:46.119 --> 01:20:49.239 do this for ourselves. But they don't want us doing 1161 01:20:49.279 --> 01:20:52.000 this because they want us sick, They want us not 1162 01:20:52.039 --> 01:20:55.000 paying attention to what's going on. They want us wrapped 1163 01:20:55.079 --> 01:20:57.680 up in our phones and the technology and the newest 1164 01:20:57.720 --> 01:21:01.039 stupid shows that are on TV. Because if we had 1165 01:21:01.079 --> 01:21:05.479 this ability to heal ourselves, and you know, the probable 1166 01:21:05.520 --> 01:21:08.720 free energy that we could have, all these things, you know, 1167 01:21:09.119 --> 01:21:11.359 it would ruin It would ruin the world for the 1168 01:21:11.359 --> 01:21:14.600 ones in control, you know, we live. 1169 01:21:15.279 --> 01:21:21.359 I on my channel, we're going through magic, teaching the 1170 01:21:21.399 --> 01:21:27.239 whole science of magic. Magic in the literal translations, was 1171 01:21:27.319 --> 01:21:32.000 called science but anyone. So the conundrum we have here 1172 01:21:32.319 --> 01:21:38.479 is us us homo sapiens sapiens. When they did the 1173 01:21:38.600 --> 01:21:44.000 human geno project, one that was a radical The church 1174 01:21:44.079 --> 01:21:49.079 still hasn't addressed it don't want to because when the 1175 01:21:49.159 --> 01:21:52.680 human genome was mapped out, we found out something about us. 1176 01:21:53.560 --> 01:21:57.640 We're hybrids. There is no such thing as a true 1177 01:21:58.000 --> 01:22:03.800 human being. They still you know, no one likes the 1178 01:22:03.800 --> 01:22:07.560 fact that we may have come from Ape man man, 1179 01:22:07.560 --> 01:22:11.239 that was Ape. But yet no one wants to explain 1180 01:22:11.640 --> 01:22:17.760 how you get the rhesis hemoglomin in our blood? How 1181 01:22:17.760 --> 01:22:22.039 did that get there? It's in us, it's not. And 1182 01:22:22.079 --> 01:22:26.079 then to make it stranger, nearly and we thought initially 1183 01:22:26.159 --> 01:22:30.520 it was a smaller percentage. It's nearly seven percent of 1184 01:22:30.560 --> 01:22:35.000 this foreign DNA that they don't know where it comes from. 1185 01:22:36.479 --> 01:22:37.840 Call it junk dna. 1186 01:22:38.079 --> 01:22:41.239 Yeah, and now they're finding the interesting thing about the 1187 01:22:41.319 --> 01:22:45.600 junk DNA. They're doing the human geno project too, the 1188 01:22:45.640 --> 01:22:52.800 madiochondrial DNA, the feminine. Holy crap, this supposed junk DNA. 1189 01:22:54.319 --> 01:22:57.520 Something ain't right, man. Somebody came into the kitchen and 1190 01:22:57.600 --> 01:22:59.239 snuck something into the recipe. 1191 01:23:01.119 --> 01:23:04.279 Yeah, and you know, I know they know this, and 1192 01:23:04.359 --> 01:23:07.399 I think that's why they're spraying what they spray in 1193 01:23:07.439 --> 01:23:09.399 the air. I think that's why they're putting what they 1194 01:23:09.399 --> 01:23:14.399 put in the food. We can't eat healthy anymore. It's 1195 01:23:14.439 --> 01:23:20.359 almost impossible. Everything is contaminated. It's very hard to find 1196 01:23:20.399 --> 01:23:24.800 anything natural nowadays. They don't want us accessing our natural 1197 01:23:24.840 --> 01:23:29.000 abilities and powers. And yes, magic is real and we 1198 01:23:29.079 --> 01:23:31.319 have the ability to tap into it because it's part 1199 01:23:31.319 --> 01:23:34.000 of our universe. But they don't want us doing that. 1200 01:23:34.560 --> 01:23:36.600 No, And you know the thing that you bring up, 1201 01:23:36.640 --> 01:23:40.119 So I was really a guy that you know, I 1202 01:23:40.640 --> 01:23:45.359 have an identic memory. So I see, I remember everything 1203 01:23:45.359 --> 01:23:48.840 that I read, and so I knew the Bible front 1204 01:23:48.840 --> 01:23:54.840 winder and backwards, and I knew about faith. If there's 1205 01:23:55.039 --> 01:24:00.039 one thing that I took from my religion was I 1206 01:24:00.079 --> 01:24:07.239 knew the power of faith individually. Many stories I've read 1207 01:24:07.359 --> 01:24:10.680 of people who in the Book of Proverbs it says 1208 01:24:10.840 --> 01:24:14.479 laughter doeth the heart as a good medicine. I have 1209 01:24:14.680 --> 01:24:19.960 read accounts of individuals who had basically a death sentence 1210 01:24:20.720 --> 01:24:24.520 on their heart muscle. They had such advanced coronary disease 1211 01:24:25.359 --> 01:24:32.479 that on two occasions they absolutely laughed themselves to a 1212 01:24:32.520 --> 01:24:40.479 new heart. Now how does the body regenerate organs? But 1213 01:24:40.720 --> 01:24:45.399 we're

finding out now that in our genetic code we 1214 01:24:45.560 --> 01:24:53.600 have the ability to do that. Yeah, I mean, you 1215 01:24:53.640 --> 01:24:58.399 know me. I'll share other stories. So I worked these 1216 01:24:59.159 --> 01:25:04.840 camp meetings crusades, like I said, with Kenneth Copeland, some 1217 01:25:04.960 --> 01:25:12.359 with other evangelists, and we would have healing services. And 1218 01:25:14.039 --> 01:25:17.399 you know, particularly when you have someone you know, an 1219 01:25:17.399 --> 01:25:20.560 evangelist that's coming through, you know there's this number I 1220 01:25:20.560 --> 01:25:26.840 can mention. But so with Kenneth Copeland Crusades Saturday morning 1221 01:25:27.000 --> 01:25:31.159 was healing school. And I could tell you, Chris, people 1222 01:25:31.239 --> 01:25:37.560 with cancer, I mean, every disease you can imagine. If 1223 01:25:37.560 --> 01:25:41.159 you ever were at an Earl Roberts camp meeting, you'd 1224 01:25:41.239 --> 01:25:45.560 see this. And I was the thing that the reason 1225 01:25:45.600 --> 01:25:49.159 why those people got healed wasn't the fact that it 1226 01:25:49.239 --> 01:25:51.399 was in the name of Jesus, wasn't the fact of 1227 01:25:51.439 --> 01:25:54.560 the guy laying hands on you. It was that those 1228 01:25:54.720 --> 01:26:01.119 people came ready to receive their faith is all ready 1229 01:26:01.439 --> 01:26:05.079 as far as they were concerned, All they needed was 1230 01:26:05.119 --> 01:26:07.640 that point of contact and they were gonna get healed. 1231 01:26:08.720 --> 01:26:11.920 It was already a foregone conclusion. That you could have 1232 01:26:11.920 --> 01:26:16.039 had Mickey Mouse up there and it would have produced 1233 01:26:16.039 --> 01:26:21.079 the same results. That's the amazing thing we have about 1234 01:26:21.119 --> 01:26:26.439 these bodies. This bind, this brain, this mind can heal 1235 01:26:26.600 --> 01:26:30.600 these bodies. So you're right, they don't want people to 1236 01:26:30.640 --> 01:26:30.920 know that. 1237 01:26:32.279 --> 01:26:35.960 No, And then the saddest part is the doctors are 1238 01:26:36.159 --> 01:26:40.119 ruled by the pharmaceutical companies and you know you can't 1239 01:26:40.119 --> 01:26:42.439 get there. They're not gonna stand up for which right. 1240 01:26:42.920 --> 01:26:45.600 So unfortunately you have to do your own research and 1241 01:26:45.680 --> 01:26:49.479 heal yourself because you can't. You know, you can't expect 1242 01:26:49.479 --> 01:26:52.880 the doctor to do it because every doctor, at least 1243 01:26:52.880 --> 01:26:55.039 I've come across, seems to be corrupt. 1244 01:26:55.840 --> 01:26:58.960 Seven out of ten of Americans are on a prescription. 1245 01:27:00.159 --> 01:27:07.800 Out of ten. We have so many antidepressants, antipsychotic antidepressants 1246 01:27:08.199 --> 01:27:12.439 that our population has been prescribed, that we've contaminated the 1247 01:27:12.560 --> 01:27:16.600 drinking water. We have so much estrogen that we've put 1248 01:27:16.720 --> 01:27:20.239 into these prescriptions as well. Now here's the strange thing 1249 01:27:20.239 --> 01:27:22.680 that you don't people don't stop and think about. Every 1250 01:27:22.840 --> 01:27:29.920 pill that you take is a chemical compound design to 1251 01:27:30.279 --> 01:27:38.479 alter the natural enzymes, acids that you have, proteins in 1252 01:27:38.520 --> 01:27:43.840 your body. Now I find it interesting that when you 1253 01:27:43.880 --> 01:27:49.159 look at the mentally insane, that what they have found 1254 01:27:49.840 --> 01:27:55.439 is by altering chemical balances within the brain itself that 1255 01:27:55.560 --> 01:28:00.960 it shuts down what I call these portals, the voices, 1256 01:28:01.640 --> 01:28:07.960 the you know, the odd physical behavior, et cetera. No 1257 01:28:08.079 --> 01:28:11.039 different than the healing services. It's the same principle. 1258 01:28:13.800 --> 01:28:18.800 So you think that it could be possible that people 1259 01:28:18.840 --> 01:28:22.680 that we're hearing voices, you know, it may not mean 1260 01:28:22.720 --> 01:28:24.920 that they're necessarily crazy. 1261 01:28:25.119 --> 01:28:29.000 But these no no i contend to bise minimal mind. 1262 01:28:29.159 --> 01:28:32.520 It's a great book to read. By the way, this 1263 01:28:32.640 --> 01:28:40.800 guy's whole theory was this, if spirits exist, then their 1264 01:28:41.000 --> 01:28:50.399 existence is only a minute variation of energy, internal time plan, 1265 01:28:50.680 --> 01:28:54.079 You and I, everyone else in this reality. The one 1266 01:28:54.119 --> 01:28:56.520 thing that we do have common, it's almost like we've 1267 01:28:56.560 --> 01:29:00.840 been tagged, is that we all generate this same time 1268 01:29:00.920 --> 01:29:05.920 code frequency. It's what causes us to exist here. Now 1269 01:29:05.960 --> 01:29:12.600 you alter that time code forward or backward, speed it up, 1270 01:29:12.720 --> 01:29:19.239 slow it down, you phase out of this reality. Now 1271 01:29:19.279 --> 01:29:24.159 that gets into a very interesting thing. Then if one 1272 01:29:24.199 --> 01:29:28.399 of my favorite philosophers of the first century was Philo Filo, 1273 01:29:28.640 --> 01:29:34.119 in his writings of Moses and the Cosmos, wrote that 1274 01:29:34.880 --> 01:29:38.000 God is a god of creation, it's not a god 1275 01:29:38.039 --> 01:29:42.199 of waste. And that if there is a god that 1276 01:29:42.439 --> 01:29:46.800 is creating all the time, there cannot be one space, 1277 01:29:47.199 --> 01:29:50.720 as he said, one cubit that would not have a 1278 01:29:50.840 --> 01:30:00.359 life form in it. The Indians Native Americans believe that 1279 01:30:00.399 --> 01:30:05.239 the trees have spirits. In fact, many cultures do that 1280 01:30:05.359 --> 01:30:12.399 spirits and habit forced. We can just go on and on.

Yeah, 1281 01:30:12.439 --> 01:30:16.399 so I contend this does happen. It is real. Uh 1282 01:30:16.560 --> 01:30:21.159 As I've been teaching people on sigils, Chris, we live 1283 01:30:21.319 --> 01:30:25.520 in a world of sigils. Every car manufacturer has a 1284 01:30:25.600 --> 01:30:29.359 sigil on it, every corporation has a sigil, every government 1285 01:30:29.439 --> 01:30:35.359 has a sigil, every religion has a sigil. And I 1286 01:30:35.359 --> 01:30:39.239 I'm becoming more aware we really do live in Alice 1287 01:30:39.279 --> 01:30:42.600 in Wonderland. We live in a world of magic. 1288 01:30:43.479 --> 01:30:46.439 It's all hidden in plain sight. And I don't know 1289 01:30:46.479 --> 01:30:50.399 if you've noticed, but I've noticed a lot more TV shows, 1290 01:30:50.560 --> 01:30:59.119 movies a cult based. They're they're they're pushing witchcraft. Uh more, 1291 01:30:59.159 --> 01:31:02.159 occult shows like that. I've noticed that a lot lately. 1292 01:31:02.960 --> 01:31:06.720 I don't know if it's some sort of preparation, but 1293 01:31:06.760 --> 01:31:09.039 there's a lot of other stuff going on too that 1294 01:31:09.079 --> 01:31:10.960 I'd like to talk about. But have you noticed that? 1295 01:31:11.960 --> 01:31:15.399 Yeah, I tell you this. There is an article out 1296 01:31:15.399 --> 01:31:21.479 today that said that more people are replacing God with 1297 01:31:21.960 --> 01:31:29.960 et with aliens. Now, that is very interesting, And the 1298 01:31:30.039 --> 01:31:33.800 problem is is that the religions themselves are their worst enemies. 1299 01:31:34.079 --> 01:31:38.199 You know, I tell people, you know why I left Christianity. 1300 01:31:38.840 --> 01:31:43.520 It failed the background check. I put the resume and 1301 01:31:43.960 --> 01:31:48.600 started looking at the references. They weren't matching up. And 1302 01:31:48.640 --> 01:31:51.319 that's the problem. It's framed. It's just like the pope 1303 01:31:51.319 --> 01:31:57.560 today changes the Lord's prayer. Yeah, of that, I don't 1304 01:31:57.600 --> 01:32:00.279 know what's the matter of pope? Two thousand year years 1305 01:32:00.359 --> 01:32:03.119 isn't enough to figure it out that Oh, now we're 1306 01:32:03.159 --> 01:32:06.840 going to get the real intent. Well then what the 1307 01:32:06.880 --> 01:32:11.319 hell have we been reading? And why? Because they screwed up? 1308 01:32:11.319 --> 01:32:14.560 And Chris, here's the thing what Christians don't realize. I 1309 01:32:14.640 --> 01:32:19.000 never realized there were four other gods they tried in 1310 01:32:19.079 --> 01:32:26.279 Christianity in the early days, really Bacchus, Dianaeus, and one 1311 01:32:26.319 --> 01:32:33.359 other god. They failed. It didn't have anything. The problem 1312 01:32:33.520 --> 01:32:37.279 was just like we now discovered, well, there's two different 1313 01:32:37.279 --> 01:32:41.399 gods here that you're talking about. You know, you got 1314 01:32:41.439 --> 01:32:44.079 this one that God that says he's jealous and vengeful. 1315 01:32:44.439 --> 01:32:46.880 Now you got this one with this cat walking around 1316 01:32:47.239 --> 01:32:50.800 saying that he represents the Father. Well, you know, the 1317 01:32:50.880 --> 01:32:54.319 Father was never part of Judaism. So where the hell 1318 01:32:54.359 --> 01:32:56.800 did Father come from? You know where it came from. 1319 01:32:56.880 --> 01:32:59.720 It came from gnosticism, It came from the hell in 1320 01:32:59.760 --> 01:33:04.880 this influences and take baptism. Where did baptism ever become 1321 01:33:04.960 --> 01:33:07.720 part of Judaism? Then you're telling me you're opening the 1322 01:33:07.760 --> 01:33:10.479 story with some guy called John the Baptist. You know 1323 01:33:10.520 --> 01:33:13.239 what they would have done with him, They just stone him. 1324 01:33:14.560 --> 01:33:21.039 He would have been considered a heretic calling Godfather. There's 1325 01:33:21.119 --> 01:33:26.960 no such thing in the Judaic mindframe. But we bought it, 1326 01:33:29.119 --> 01:33:32.479 and all it's done is separate us. It's caused more 1327 01:33:32.600 --> 01:33:37.079 people to die. You know, you said something earlier when 1328 01:33:37.079 --> 01:33:42.119 we started on this. If we didn't have religion, I 1329 01:33:42.239 --> 01:33:45.680 dare say that man would be far more advanced in 1330 01:33:45.800 --> 01:33:49.960 his consciousness of development than what we could ever begin. 1331 01:33:50.119 --> 01:33:53.359 I think that we would have breaken the need for 1332 01:33:53.800 --> 01:33:56.479 what I call the spoken language. 1333 01:33:57.640 --> 01:34:01.840 It does seem that we had a much more effective 1334 01:34:01.880 --> 01:34:06.039 way of communicating through symbols in ancient times because they 1335 01:34:06.039 --> 01:34:08.920 could hold so many different meanings if you knew how 1336 01:34:08.960 --> 01:34:10.479 to look at it in the right way. 1337 01:34:11.640 --> 01:34:15.000 Chris spot On, you know, as I as I've done 1338 01:34:15.039 --> 01:34:20.560 my study and you start studying in Kabbalaistic mythology on 1339 01:34:21.199 --> 01:34:26.439 the Judaism side, Moses, do you know what the true 1340 01:34:26.520 --> 01:34:37.720 what Moses literally translates magi magician. So Moses, which is 1341 01:34:37.960 --> 01:34:45.159 moshi means magician. Well, if you follow the story, well 1342 01:34:45.199 --> 01:34:48.399 that would make sense if he was considered to be 1343 01:34:48.640 --> 01:34:52.560 Pharaoh's son. He would have been, and he went into 1344 01:34:52.720 --> 01:34:56.319 what we would call the ministry, the temple priest. He 1345 01:34:56.600 --> 01:35:03.359 learned the ancient Nolg we call it magic. They say 1346 01:35:03.720 --> 01:35:09.880 that what most she did with Abenezer was that they 1347 01:35:09.920 --> 01:35:15.000 were able to open up portals by rearranging the

sigels 1348 01:35:15.680 --> 01:35:22.600 of a certain language and by placing these siduals in 1349 01:35:22.680 --> 01:35:26.600 a certain way. It invoked these spirits. Now, there is 1350 01:35:27.119 --> 01:35:31.119 one theory that says out there that that's exactly what Tutmos, 1351 01:35:32.359 --> 01:35:36.680 who would have been in fact Pharaoh's son, the half son, 1352 01:35:37.600 --> 01:35:42.560 That's exactly what he did. That what he stole from 1353 01:35:42.880 --> 01:35:49.920 Pharaoh's temple was the most powerful of the ability to 1354 01:35:49.960 --> 01:35:55.399 pull in manifestations of deities from different planes, and it 1355 01:35:55.479 --> 01:36:00.680 is said that this deity that Tutmos Moses hauled out 1356 01:36:01.119 --> 01:36:04.479 is what we get the story of the crossing of 1357 01:36:04.520 --> 01:36:10.359 the Red Sea, et cetera, et cetera. Very interesting, oh, fascinating, 1358 01:36:10.439 --> 01:36:13.159 and you know there's another one out there. I did 1359 01:36:13.199 --> 01:36:16.199 this on the Kibob and in what you when you 1360 01:36:16.279 --> 01:36:21.880 really begin to read, what the the the records that exist, 1361 01:36:23.399 --> 01:36:27.760 This god, this Hubrek god, is an alien. The key 1362 01:36:27.880 --> 01:36:33.399 Bob was its spaceship. Moses was more fascinating with the 1363 01:36:33.399 --> 01:36:39.039 spaceship than the deity. He also, Moses apparently also got contaminated, 1364 01:36:39.880 --> 01:36:43.640 uh with radiation by being too close to this thing. 1365 01:36:43.680 --> 01:36:46.279 It's it's a fascinating story. 1366 01:36:47.039 --> 01:36:49.439 So all that being said, for the last few minutes, 1367 01:36:49.479 --> 01:36:54.079 where do you see humanity going? You know, some see uh, 1368 01:36:54.560 --> 01:36:58.800 you know, a mass awakening happening. According to the Yuga cycles, 1369 01:36:58.840 --> 01:37:03.159 we're in a we're in an up cycle towards you 1370 01:37:03.479 --> 01:37:08.159 a golden age. Some think that we're doomed, that we're 1371 01:37:08.279 --> 01:37:12.439 just gonna be so dumb down and destroyed by the 1372 01:37:13.279 --> 01:37:16.960 atmosphere and the food and water that we have no 1373 01:37:17.079 --> 01:37:21.159 hope and will just be eventually robot slaves. And then 1374 01:37:21.159 --> 01:37:24.560 there's the aspect of the planetary changes that we're seeing. 1375 01:37:24.600 --> 01:37:27.560 I mean, I saw an article today in mainstream news 1376 01:37:27.760 --> 01:37:31.119 estimating that humanity only has about twenty five years left 1377 01:37:31.159 --> 01:37:34.000 if we don't make changes to what they're calling, of course, 1378 01:37:34.159 --> 01:37:37.079 quote climate change. But I mean, where do you see 1379 01:37:37.079 --> 01:37:39.439 it all going? Do you think we have a chance? 1380 01:37:40.279 --> 01:37:42.840 Tath that you said that, because I was getting material 1381 01:37:42.960 --> 01:37:46.640

for the Steiger perspective. Yes, I pulled out two of 1382 01:37:47.039 --> 01:37:51.079 DVDs in my library, number one remembering the end of 1383 01:37:51.119 --> 01:37:54.399 the world. It's already happened. From the Golden Age that 1384 01:37:54.439 --> 01:37:58.840 you talked about, and again the ancient cities of the 1385 01:37:58.840 --> 01:38:03.520 gods that we have recorded. We know that our ancestors 1386 01:38:03.560 --> 01:38:07.600 saw Saturn in the nighttime sky, that it actually was 1387 01:38:07.640 --> 01:38:12.720 called the Golden Light. I'll just be can't another short 1388 01:38:12.720 --> 01:38:16.079 time we have here? I think we are truly at 1389 01:38:16.079 --> 01:38:21.720 a crossroads. Transhumanism is advancing at such a rate. I 1390 01:38:21.760 --> 01:38:24.880 am more alarmed by that than anything else. I am 1391 01:38:25.039 --> 01:38:30.399 seeing the potential totalitarian crackdown on a level that we 1392 01:38:30.520 --> 01:38:34.039 haven't seen. All the indicators in the bond markets in 1393 01:38:34.079 --> 01:38:39.840 the future markets are pointing to something disastrous coming. I 1394 01:38:40.000 --> 01:38:44.159 mean something a big shock. I don't like what I 1395 01:38:44.199 --> 01:38:48.600 see putin and zing over there making a pact of 1396 01:38:48.640 --> 01:38:51.920 what's going on. What they're saying is that Iran in 1397 01:38:51.960 --> 01:38:56.119 the next six months will have a nuclear weapon. When 1398 01:38:56.159 --> 01:38:59.960 you see that the tech titans are pushing for immortalent 1399 01:39:00.720 --> 01:39:09.800 and pushing their despots, displayty and idea of their Vanna No, Chris, 1400 01:39:09.840 --> 01:39:12.159 I think that we are. I think there's going to 1401 01:39:12.199 --> 01:39:16.800 be a small amount of us that escape because it's overwhelming. 1402 01:39:17.119 --> 01:39:20.640 You know, we have the millennials, we have the Generation z's, 1403 01:39:21.199 --> 01:39:23.159 and now the new ones coming in which I don't 1404 01:39:23.159 --> 01:39:27.439 even know what they're called yet. But the Generation z's. 1405 01:39:28.039 --> 01:39:29.600 They're they're they're they're trapped. 1406 01:39:29.800 --> 01:39:33.880 Their their minds are gone. They spend more time on 1407 01:39:33.960 --> 01:39:37.600 their black mirror devices than they do anything else. They 1408 01:39:37.640 --> 01:39:41.159 can't think, they can't remember, they can't do any more 1409 01:39:41.279 --> 01:39:44.039 than what their phone or the latest social media has 1410 01:39:44.079 --> 01:39:46.920 them doing. This is alarming. 1411 01:39:48.319 --> 01:39:52.520 We see going to one else's alarming. I had I 1412 01:39:52.560 --> 01:39:58.520 think three videos removed between today and yesterday for community guidelines. 1413 01:39:59.279 --> 01:40:02.560 They had to do with nine to eleven false flags. 1414 01:40:02.600 --> 01:40:06.800 I interviewed ole A Domaguard, doctor Fetzer. Those are all 1415 01:40:06.840 --> 01:40:11.760 gone now because of this new wave of censorship. It's 1416 01:40:12.000 --> 01:40:15.800 they're trying to shut everybody up. They don't want any 1417 01:40:15.840 --> 01:40:19.520 information about anything that they don't you know, they don't 1418 01:40:19.560 --> 01:40:20.920 control the narrative getting out. 1419 01:40:21.439 --> 01:40:27.279 Yeah, I mean, I'm I started being shadow band about 1420 01:40:27.319 --> 01:40:31.359 three months ago. My channel was growing, you know, fifteen 1421 01:40:31.439 --> 01:40:36.399 hundred two thousand a month, explosive, and now it's regressing. 1422 01:40:37.640 --> 01:40:42.279 I'm getting audits of supposed now of subscribers that they're 1423 01:40:42.319 --> 01:40:47.119 telling me that they're auditing my account, and suddenly thousands 1424 01:40:47.319 --> 01:40:52.479 of subscribers are gone. Yeah, this is scary. And I'm 1425 01:40:52.479 --> 01:40:54.920 just teaching philosophy magic. 1426 01:40:57.439 --> 01:41:00.760 Yeah, I mean, you would think the things that they're censoring. 1427 01:41:01.359 --> 01:41:03.479 I mean, there's got to be something to it if 1428 01:41:03.479 --> 01:41:06.039 they don't want us to hear it or see it. 1429 01:41:06.920 --> 01:41:09.840 Well, I can tell you this, I know from talking 1430 01:41:09.920 --> 01:41:16.159 to some congress people. Yeah, let them keep on doing this. 1431 01:41:17.319 --> 01:41:22.600 There is there is such a backlash forming now with 1432 01:41:22.720 --> 01:41:27.359 both sides, Democrats and Republicans. This is the type of 1433 01:41:27.399 --> 01:41:31.399 stuff that is making the Democrats afraid because if you 1434 01:41:31.520 --> 01:41:36.000 see Google now beginning to put this listen, let's just 1435 01:41:36.000 --> 01:41:40.520 call it what it is. It's fascism. It's not socialism, 1436 01:41:40.640 --> 01:41:42.640 it's not communism. This is fascist. 1437 01:41:42.680 --> 01:41:44.079 It's a modern day book burning. 1438 01:41:44.399 --> 01:41:48.159 Yeah, it's exactly what. It is, no different than taking 1439 01:41:48.159 --> 01:41:51.039 the witches out and burning them at the state, burning 1440 01:41:51.079 --> 01:41:54.840 the books, throwing them in the river and Constantinople. But 1441 01:41:54.920 --> 01:41:59.399 you know, this is what tell me, it's this not dictorialship. 1442 01:42:00.119 --> 01:42:05.199 Every person around the world should be very, very alarmed 1443 01:42:05.239 --> 01:42:09.000 by this. And so, answering your question, this is the 1444 01:42:09.079 --> 01:42:14.640 thing I'm not liking. I mean, I know, I try 1445 01:42:14.640 --> 01:42:17.640 to be as positive as I can, and I try 1446 01:42:17.680 --> 01:42:18.880 to edify people, but. 1447 01:42:20.720 --> 01:42:24.800 So it's it's it's just such an enormous force that 1448 01:42:24.960 --> 01:42:25.359 happens to. 1449 01:42:26.760 --> 01:42:29.720 My concern is is that it's going to

be something 1450 01:42:29.800 --> 01:42:35.640 small that's going to start the spark. And I think 1451 01:42:35.680 --> 01:42:38.760 we're going to you know, you look at the corn futures. 1452 01:42:38.760 --> 01:42:41.680 I've been saying this now for the last two months. 1453 01:42:44.239 --> 01:42:48.199 Wait till the spike and prices hit this fall. Uh, 1454 01:42:48.800 --> 01:42:51.680 this is going to get crazy. That the balance of 1455 01:42:51.680 --> 01:42:54.439 what it takes to feed the world and what we're 1456 01:42:54.479 --> 01:42:58.520 producing now China in their bread basket, they're being hit hard. 1457 01:42:58.920 --> 01:43:01.720 All the bread basket sits around the world seem to 1458 01:43:01.720 --> 01:43:07.439 be I don't know, or ironically being affected by weather. 1459 01:43:09.560 --> 01:43:12.720 So you have give you the number you have. You 1460 01:43:12.800 --> 01:43:17.600 basically needs forty seven billion metric tons to feed the world. 1461 01:43:19.319 --> 01:43:22.359 This harvest this year is projected to be at forty 1462 01:43:22.399 --> 01:43:28.720 two so we have reserves. Yes, but remember this is 1463 01:43:28.760 --> 01:43:35.640 almost looking like Joseph in the Seven Years and I 1464 01:43:35.680 --> 01:43:38.000 hear I spent the whole hour just ding in the 1465 01:43:38.039 --> 01:43:40.720 whole Old Testament, you know. But hey, some of those stories, 1466 01:43:40.760 --> 01:43:44.520 you know, you got to walk away and go, well, 1467 01:43:44.600 --> 01:43:47.560 I don't know what to say. It looks familiar, doesn't 1468 01:43:47.560 --> 01:43:48.239 it right? 1469 01:43:48.720 --> 01:43:52.399 And you know that all being said, I think the 1470 01:43:52.479 --> 01:43:55.720 only thing we can do, you know, those of us 1471 01:43:55.760 --> 01:43:59.279 that are aware in a week, be good to ourselves, 1472 01:43:59.319 --> 01:44:02.560 make the change in ourselves we need to see. Be 1473 01:44:02.640 --> 01:44:05.359 good to everyone else. Be the best person you can be, 1474 01:44:06.119 --> 01:44:09.000 and you know, make your voices heard. If if you 1475 01:44:09.239 --> 01:44:13.159 don't like something, express it. Don't just sit there and 1476 01:44:13.239 --> 01:44:14.239 let things happen. 1477 01:44:14.800 --> 01:44:15.000 You know. 1478 01:44:15.640 --> 01:44:18.840 I think if more people stood up against some of 1479 01:44:18.880 --> 01:44:22.119 this tyranny, that it would it would be may do something. 1480 01:44:22.159 --> 01:44:24.800 But no one's standing up except for the few of 1481 01:44:24.880 --> 01:44:25.800 us that already are. 1482 01:44:26.279 --> 01:44:29.239 Well. I've had people say well, you know, Google has 1483 01:44:29.279 --> 01:44:31.680 the right to anything that No, No, that's where you're wrong. 1484 01:44:32.000 --> 01:44:34.960 If Google was a private company, that'd be a different story. 1485 01:44:35.000 --> 01:44:38.520 But Google is a publicly traded company. They took money 1486 01:44:38.600 --> 01:44:43.439 from the public markets. That gives them an obligation to 1487 01:44:43.520 --> 01:44:47.479 the United States, to its citizens to uphold the laws. 1488 01:44:47.920 --> 01:44:52.520 And this is blatant censorship that they're doing, and they're 1489 01:44:52.520 --> 01:44:56.159 going to get smacked. Listen. I think they're going to 1490 01:44:56.199 --> 01:45:00.319 be filed in the Justice Department for antitrust and time 1491 01:45:00.640 --> 01:45:04.439 monopolizing of data. I think you're going to see sweeping 1492 01:45:04.520 --> 01:45:09.960 indictments coming down to many of these CEOs, and Zuckerberg 1493 01:45:10.079 --> 01:45:11.640 is won. I'm going to tell you what. I'm hearing 1494 01:45:11.680 --> 01:45:15.039 stories in the Justice Department that Cat is going to 1495 01:45:15.079 --> 01:45:20.239 be indicted. And I've understood as well. Canada is thinking 1496 01:45:20.239 --> 01:45:23.399 about the same thing, so as Britain. He's basically given 1497 01:45:23.479 --> 01:45:26.920 him all the finger, you know, And this is the problem. 1498 01:45:27.039 --> 01:45:31.640 So I think there may be a day of justice. Yet, 1499 01:45:31.720 --> 01:45:35.960 Chris and watch Us be banned. This will probably be banned. 1500 01:45:36.720 --> 01:45:38.640 This is going to be the show that does it. 1501 01:45:38.720 --> 01:45:42.520 For both of them. Exactly. They were a good channel 1502 01:45:42.560 --> 01:45:43.479 there at one time. 1503 01:45:43.800 --> 01:45:45.960 You know, it was at least it was a good show, 1504 01:45:46.000 --> 01:45:46.479 you know. 1505 01:45:48.960 --> 01:45:51.680 But it's true. It's true. It's it's and you know, 1506 01:45:52.880 --> 01:45:56.479 I don't know. You know, I'm not a trunk supporter 1507 01:45:56.760 --> 01:45:59.600 or a hater. You know. Listen, I didn't like the 1508 01:45:59.680 --> 01:46:01.960 last guy that was in there. I didn't like the 1509 01:46:02.000 --> 01:46:04.800 guy that was in there before. So you know, you 1510 01:46:05.199 --> 01:46:07.199 kind of just get used to this, you know, it's 1511 01:46:07.279 --> 01:46:11.119 just a different face me. Yeah, And you know, I'm 1512 01:46:11.119 --> 01:46:16.199 thinking to myself, you know, I play chess, I love strategy, 1513 01:46:17.399 --> 01:46:21.600 and I know something about the art of war. And 1514 01:46:21.680 --> 01:46:24.800 maybe you know, they listen to my radio show. I 1515 01:46:24.840 --> 01:46:26.960 know there's some congress people that listen. I'm going to 1516 01:46:27.000 --> 01:46:30.439 tell them, you know, you don't push your opponent into 1517 01:46:30.479 --> 01:46:34.640 a corner because when you push your opponent into a corner, 1518 01:46:35.359 --> 01:46:39.439 they no longer have any options. And that's when they 1519 01:46:39.479 --> 01:46:45.239 have no longer any options, it gets dangerous. I'll leave 1520 01:46:45.279 --> 01:46:45.640 it at that. 1521 01:46:46.359 --> 01:46:50.000 Yeah, very well, said Wayne. Thank you so much. That 1522 01:46:50.159 --> 01:46:53.439 was christ And of course you're gonna have to come 1523 01:46:53.479 --> 01:46:57.680 back on. You're probably the on the leader board right 1524 01:46:57.760 --> 01:46:59.880 now as it comes to return guests. 1525 01:47:00.680 --> 01:47:03.239 Well, thank you. It's an honor, Chris, I enjoy it. 1526 01:47:03.239 --> 01:47:06.520 It's I love your mind. It's it's open, it's a 1527 01:47:06.560 --> 01:47:11.720 free mind, and that's what it's going to take, you know. 1528 01:47:11.840 --> 01:47:16.119 It's the agility. I was thinking earlier, back in the day, 1529 01:47:16.159 --> 01:47:20.159 I was in ROTC and the drill sarck shit we had. 1530 01:47:21.239 --> 01:47:26.000 I still remember the Cat Collins and I can remember 1531 01:47:26.279 --> 01:47:29.720 him telling us and we were just we were just kids, 1532 01:47:30.000 --> 01:47:32.439 you know, ro OTC. You know, I didn't want to 1533 01:47:32.479 --> 01:47:37.680 go to Vietnam. And he said, the key to survival 1534 01:47:38.239 --> 01:47:45.439 is flexibility, adapting to the situation. That's what freethinkers do. 1535 01:47:45.479 --> 01:47:51.600 They adapt to the situation. Yeah, and you're a great freethinker, Chris, 1536 01:47:51.600 --> 01:47:52.640 you really are. Well. 1537 01:47:52.640 --> 01:47:56.159 Thank you so much, Wayne. I appreciate that and I'll 1538 01:47:56.159 --> 01:47:57.319 look forward to the next one. 1539 01:47:57.720 --> 01:48:00.800 Let's do it, my friend. Absolutely well. You have a 1540 01:48:00.840 --> 01:48:03.960 great knife. All right, Thank you, Chris, Bye bye,