Volledige transcriptie van Alex Anthopolous Single Handedly Wins the World Series

00:04:26.879 Well, I you know, for a while there, the title was news 61 00:04:26.959 --> 00:04:30.160 editor, so when I was editing the news is what I was doing. 62 00:04:31.240 --> 00:04:34.879 Man, Remember that? Remember that? What a choice that was for us. 63 00:04:35.079 --> 00:04:36.560 Well, let me ask you, how do you feel about it? 64 00:04:36.560 --> 00:04:40.040 You've been You've been under the game for a long time. I mean, 65 00:04:40.079 --> 00:04:46.759 I certainly enjoy sports more no working there, and I think that I like 66 00:04:46.879 --> 00:04:51.439 being able to not worry about having to work there again, So I can 67 00:04:51.639 --> 00:04:55.920 say certain things, sure, but I don't know. I look back on 68 00:04:55.959 --> 00:04:58.319 it fondly, of course, i'd agree to do. You have to look 69 00:04:58.319 --> 00:05:00.839 back on our time at the Score fondlyause we didn't do anything a lot of 70 00:05:00.879 --> 00:05:02.199 a lot of it. To be honest, I honestly wish that I had 71 00:05:02.240 --> 00:05:06.040 sort of appreciated more at the time. That's such as life, that's that's 72 00:05:06.120 --> 00:05:09.759 that's of course, but like we had a we had a great thing going 73 00:05:09.839 --> 00:05:12.920 for a little while. Yes, you know what was striking to me after 74 00:05:12.959 --> 00:05:15.560 I actually left the Score, and we're talking about nine ten years ago at 75 00:05:15.560 --> 00:05:20.879 this point, UM was that basically in very few of my other places that 76 00:05:20.920 --> 00:05:24.720 I landed. There was a little bit of this at Yahoo Sports, and 77 00:05:24.759 --> 00:05:30.759 a little bit of it um over my time at Sportsnet, but certainly not 78 00:05:30.839 --> 00:05:34.079 in any of my other side job ventures. Um was like we really we 79 00:05:34.079 --> 00:05:39.639 were really everybody was friends on the on the entire staff, which is like 80 00:05:39.800 --> 00:05:45.120 it seemed normal, I guess because we were all twenty five and working at 81 00:05:45.120 --> 00:05:47.920 sports and standing up all night and hanging out and getting you know, talxicated 82 00:05:47.959 --> 00:05:51.720 in various ways. But like that's not a common thing. I guess people 83 00:05:51.720 --> 00:05:55.839 that you have work friends and stuff, but we were it was legitimate friendships 84 00:05:55.879 --> 00:05:59.240 that were formed, agreed and friendships. I still have two, I mean 85 00:05:59.279 --> 00:06:02.680 like two of the people from that time. We're going to be in my 86 00:06:02.759 --> 00:06:08.959 wedding party. Yeah, unbelievable. You were going to MC said wedding like 87 00:06:09.040 --> 00:06:13.040 it really is a It is kind of crazy when you think about that way, 88 00:06:13.160 --> 00:06:15.079 where it's like the last the job I currently have and and my last 89 00:06:15.160 --> 00:06:17.680 job. I mean, well, I don't even I don't even know. 90 00:06:18.560 --> 00:06:20.680 I don't even know what

city most of my co workers live in, and 91 00:06:20.920 --> 00:06:24.560 I know that they've told me, but it's just like I'm not even I'm 92 00:06:24.600 --> 00:06:30.759 not listening when they The problems is when work the score you listened. We 93 00:06:30.800 --> 00:06:34.519 listened too much to each other. That could be true. I don't know 94 00:06:34.560 --> 00:06:38.759 what that means, but I could honestly be true. Well, no, 95 00:06:38.800 --> 00:06:41.920 it's not true. It doesn't make any sense at all. They makes sense. 96 00:06:42.160 --> 00:06:46.399 It makes absolutely no sense. But we had fun um other personal life 97 00:06:46.399 --> 00:06:49.199 news. I turned to thirty six over the weekend. How was that for 98 00:06:49.279 --> 00:06:54.959 you? Nothing? It was nothing for me. I liked that your response 99 00:06:54.959 --> 00:06:59.680 to me wishing you a happy birthday was who cares like I barely care and 100 00:07:00.759 --> 00:07:03.560 is my day. So no, you Knowlson, thirty six is not particularly 101 00:07:03.639 --> 00:07:10.720 exciting age to turn. Um. Yeah, I do feel as a thirty 102 00:07:10.759 --> 00:07:14.120 three year old, I know what you mean. Yeah, I feel I 103 00:07:14.199 --> 00:07:17.720 feel a slight liberation in that, even more so than when I was thirty 104 00:07:17.720 --> 00:07:21.800 five. It is truly inconsequential anything I have to say or do. Um, 105 00:07:24.120 --> 00:07:28.600 Now, now you're out of the depth the key demographic. Yes, 106 00:07:28.639 --> 00:07:33.639 I am, and and I'm free. I'm free to transition into the guy 107 00:07:33.800 --> 00:07:42.639 that you overhear at games or own the subway with his takes and be like, 108 00:07:42.680 --> 00:07:44.439 oh my god. I hope this never happens in my life. I 109 00:07:44.439 --> 00:07:46.040 hope I never become that guy. I am fully ready to become that guy. 110 00:07:46.079 --> 00:07:48.720 I started on my birthday with my first big take, which is that 111 00:07:48.759 --> 00:07:53.800 I don't enjoy pitching even I don't enjoy pitching really al saw that I would 112 00:07:53.800 --> 00:07:58.240 like you to explain this because I love at three, so maybe I'm supposed 113 00:07:58.279 --> 00:08:03.000 to. Well, first of all, I'm dumb, right, I'm not 114 00:08:03.079 --> 00:08:09.319 smart. So I I used Stephen Matt's as my example. UM would like 115 00:08:09.399 --> 00:08:11.439 when he was good last year, And then when he was bad and then 116 00:08:11.480 --> 00:08:16.560 he when he was good. I didn't see a difference. I don't other 117 00:08:16.600 --> 00:08:20.519 than other than what the hitters are doing. I have no clue how to 118 00:08:20.560 --> 00:08:24.120 evaluate what I'm seeing. And I'm dubious of most folks who say that they 119 00:08:24.120 --> 00:08:26.560 can. You know what I mean? Yeah, I think that's fair. 120 00:08:26.160 --> 00:08:28.519 You can, and you can. Listen, people, this is a this 121 00:08:28.600 --> 00:08:35.960 is symptomatic of our day and age. As people will they'll have a Baseball 122 00:08:35.960 --> 00:08:39.919 Savant open while they watched the games and they will really, yeah, well, 123 00:08:39.080 --> 00:08:43.039 reporters, people win the press box. They can tell you the exit 124 00:08:43.080 --> 00:08:46.919 velocity and they can tell you the vella of every pitch because because at one 125 00:08:46.960 --> 00:08:50.879 point this this uh analytic revolution we came through and I'm not I'm not here 126 00:08:50.919 --> 00:08:54.720 a bag on analytics. I will do a thing, but I'm you know, 127 00:08:54.879 --> 00:08:58.159 it will be like, oh, velocity, A dip in velocity is 128 00:08:58.480 --> 00:09:01.720 the first thing that to look for. Right, that's guy dips and velocity 129 00:09:01.720 --> 00:09:05.559 at warning signs, right, right, So obviously you know what I mean. 130 00:09:05.919 --> 00:09:09.679 That's not that guy presented as some like new agent from me. It's 131 00:09:09.679 --> 00:09:11.279 like, you know what throwing harder is better? Is like I knew that 132 00:09:11.320 --> 00:09:16.200 and when I was like seven years old, that's not extremely difficult to wrap 133 00:09:16.279 --> 00:09:20.519 my head around. Um, I don't trust spin rate is another thing people 134 00:09:20.559 --> 00:09:24.960 talk about spin rate. Listen, we've we've all seen it, right, 135 00:09:24.159 --> 00:09:26.879 a home run gets hit, for example, I'll use Rowdy tel As as 136 00:09:26.879 --> 00:09:31.159 a famous example where he it's a bomb in Boston, Okay, and everyone's 137 00:09:31.159 --> 00:09:33.080 like, oh my god, that's so, that's the furthest to hit home 138 00:09:33.159 --> 00:09:37.559 run. And in the history of Family Park they say, right, remember 139 00:09:37.559 --> 00:09:39.879 this, and then the no but I'll take a word for it. And 140 00:09:39.919 --> 00:09:43.080 then they were like, well, it's not allowed to be deeper than the 141 00:09:43.120 --> 00:09:46.159 Ted Williams home run, And like, I don't know this at all. 142 00:09:46.159 --> 00:09:48.879 What do you mean what's not allowed? Does that mean that cast was was 143 00:09:48.919 --> 00:09:52.399 like down, It was like because that cass was down and had reported it 144 00:09:52.480 --> 00:09:56.840 said oh it was inaccurate the distance that they gave on Ruddy tel As his 145 00:09:56.879 --> 00:10:00.200 home run, and that they updated it later on. So the it's what 146 00:10:00.320 --> 00:10:03.080 to tell me that this website, this baseball website is telling me exactly how 147 00:10:03.080 --> 00:10:07.200 many times a ball rotates in the less than one second that it goes from 148 00:10:07.240 --> 00:10:11.200 the pitcher's hand. Of the catcher's glove. I don't I don't know if 149 00:10:11.200 --> 00:10:15.679 I buy that as valuable. And the thing is, you know, Trent 150 00:10:15.759 --> 00:10:18.480 Thornton had like the top spin rate on a curveball, like nineteenth

percentile in 151 00:10:18.519 --> 00:10:24.000 baseball, so means nothing. I don't know. Pitching does not do a 152 00:10:24.000 --> 00:10:26.480 lot for me. I like this. I let you know what. I 153 00:10:26.519 --> 00:10:28.200 don't necessarily agree because, as I said, I'm a young man, so 154 00:10:28.240 --> 00:10:33.919 I not smart also, Jake, No, but I love I love this, 155 00:10:33.200 --> 00:10:37.279 uh this idea. I angus rules. So I have another one may 156 00:10:37.279 --> 00:10:41.039 maybe you'll maybe you'll join me on this one. Maybe you will. And 157 00:10:41.080 --> 00:10:45.200 I want to frame it properly because I don't want to be misunderstood. And 158 00:10:45.279 --> 00:10:50.720 what I'm trying to say. But what I don't like Jake in general, 159 00:10:50.759 --> 00:10:52.840 and this goes across sports. But I'll use baseball again as the example because 160 00:10:52.840 --> 00:10:56.679 it's the one with the most stats. I'm not really a fan of any 161 00:10:56.759 --> 00:11:03.679 stat that. Um it's whole thing is that it lends itself to predicting future 162 00:11:03.720 --> 00:11:09.799 performance versus simply telling me what has happened. I understand what I'm saying, 163 00:11:09.159 --> 00:11:13.759 kind of explain it, though I know where you're going, but I want 164 00:11:13.759 --> 00:11:16.600 the I like the explanation to this. I'll use runs better in as an 165 00:11:16.639 --> 00:11:20.080 example, right, Okay, we went through this ten years ago. Yeah, 166 00:11:20.200 --> 00:11:24.720 it was like stop using RBI. I remember learning that RBI, the 167 00:11:24.759 --> 00:11:28.159 stat that I had talked about from my entire life was bad. Yes, 168 00:11:30.240 --> 00:11:35.679 So here's here's the thing for me, right is I'm not saying that RBI 169 00:11:37.440 --> 00:11:41.679 are a example of how you evaluate player skill, right, I'm not going 170 00:11:41.720 --> 00:11:45.840 to sit here and say more RBI makes you a better player. But I 171 00:11:45.879 --> 00:11:48.440 will say, Jake, the idea that it has no value at all to 172 00:11:48.519 --> 00:11:56.360 me is ridiculous, right, because it tells you what actually happened. It's 173 00:11:56.440 --> 00:12:00.919 right, I mean you can't there's no until you appolate future tell the whole 174 00:12:00.960 --> 00:12:03.200 story. But you also can't be like, oh, you had one hundred 175 00:12:03.200 --> 00:12:07.240 and thirty RBI this year. What a meaningless shit player. That's meaning exactly 176 00:12:07.320 --> 00:12:09.120 right, Oh, that's meaningless. The one hundred and thirty meaningless is well, 177 00:12:09.159 --> 00:12:13.200 no, not meaningless. That is the results of what happened in the 178 00:12:13.240 --> 00:12:20.679 game to you know, to have stats that like tell you what everything would 179 00:12:20.759 --> 00:12:26.080 be, you know, totally indicative of a true talent. Ceiling, and 180 00:12:26.200 --> 00:12:31.039 if everything was equal and

they all played in the same park and pitching was 181 00:12:31.080 --> 00:12:35.200 normalized, that's all well and good, but that's not their world. It's 182 00:12:35.240 --> 00:12:37.039 just not reality, you know what I mean? This this idea of like, 183 00:12:37.720 --> 00:12:39.639 if they all played in the park, he would be doing this. 184 00:12:39.679 --> 00:12:41.279 It was like, well, they don't all play in the same park. 185 00:12:41.840 --> 00:12:46.879 Is irrelevant? Is irrelevant? Again, I'm not trying to use it as 186 00:12:46.919 --> 00:12:50.919 an idea of like it makes you a better player by having more of Beid, 187 00:12:50.960 --> 00:12:52.279 That's what I'm trying to say. I'm just trying there is value in 188 00:12:52.399 --> 00:12:56.360 things that tell you what the actual results of what you watched are. I 189 00:12:56.399 --> 00:13:00.840 think what I think in general, My point being, we've gone too far 190 00:13:00.960 --> 00:13:05.159 into like every stat has to be an all encompassing idea of who the player 191 00:13:05.240 --> 00:13:09.440 is and who is better. Right, it's just all about who's the best 192 00:13:09.440 --> 00:13:13.960 player, perioditing and you use everything thing to make one number. And it's 193 00:13:13.000 --> 00:13:16.720 a little it's a little bit too much of like you want to use this 194 00:13:16.799 --> 00:13:20.840 stats to predict going forward who will have more success, when in reality, 195 00:13:20.879 --> 00:13:24.279 all I want, Jake is to know what has happened leading up to this 196 00:13:24.279 --> 00:13:26.919 point. It's that crazy am I crazy? No, I respect this. 197 00:13:26.039 --> 00:13:28.759 I think this is a good take. I was skeptical at first, but 198 00:13:28.840 --> 00:13:33.360 now I'm into this. I think this is a great idea. I think 199 00:13:35.399 --> 00:13:41.840 I don't know this is going to sound. It's gonna sound a bridge too 200 00:13:41.840 --> 00:13:46.000 far. Sure, but I got into this with nobody like. This wasn't 201 00:13:46.000 --> 00:13:48.639 an argument. This was just the thoughts I was having. Of course, 202 00:13:48.759 --> 00:13:50.879 now I was mad about about a week or two ago, and now I'm 203 00:13:50.879 --> 00:13:54.600 tremember what it was about. But basically my conclusion was that we shouldn't have 204 00:13:54.679 --> 00:14:00.600 let nerds into sports. Sure, and I'm tremembered what the reasoning was, 205 00:14:01.759 --> 00:14:03.960 but I'm gonna see if I can find it. Hold on, because I 206 00:14:03.000 --> 00:14:07.159 was getting how boring the playoffs were this year in baseball. No, I 207 00:14:07.159 --> 00:14:11.759 ignored that. It's almost entirely because here we go. It was on October 208 00:14:11.759 --> 00:14:16.039 twenty second, and what was I'm oh, it's Mitch Murner. Mitch Murder 209 00:14:16.080 --> 00:14:18.879 is what I was mad about. I was mad at this idea that like, 210 00:14:18.960 --> 00:14:26.159 you can't say like fuck this guy anymore right on Twitter, Like you 211 00:14:26.200 --> 00:14:30.120 can't because if you do, someone's coming out you being like, well, 212 00:14:30.120 --> 00:14:33.000 it's actually stupid to get rid of that guy and here's why, of course, 213 00:14:33.039 --> 00:14:37.600 and like, yeah, that is one hundred percent correct, But like, 214 00:14:39.320 --> 00:14:41.559 what is the point of sports if I can't be like fuck this guy? 215 00:14:41.039 --> 00:14:43.799 Right. You're not running for office, you know, I'm not running 216 00:14:43.799 --> 00:14:50.120 the team to consulted on decisions. Yeah, I'm not even running the team. 217 00:14:50.480 --> 00:14:52.039 I'm not calling up Kyle Dubis and being like, hey, get rid 218 00:14:52.080 --> 00:14:56.360 of them, right, So gonna be like fuck this guy. Right, 219 00:14:56.600 --> 00:14:58.919 That's what it's all about, Jake. This is this is as I as 220 00:15:00.000 --> 00:15:03.960 I get older, this is I'm I'm leaning further into this as uh, 221 00:15:05.360 --> 00:15:09.799 you know, I made that choice. Not again, not anti staffs, 222 00:15:09.799 --> 00:15:13.320 on anti analytics, but not You can just choose to not care about it, 223 00:15:13.320 --> 00:15:16.799 and you don't have to You don't have to get involved in it if 224 00:15:16.799 --> 00:15:20.480 you don't want to. Had that realization not too long ago. Whereas like 225 00:15:20.480 --> 00:15:22.840 people want to wait into these down arguments. You really don't have to bother 226 00:15:22.120 --> 00:15:24.960 You can. You can like whatever you want like and dislike whatever in the 227 00:15:24.960 --> 00:15:28.519 same way that you could with music and movies. You can have bad sports 228 00:15:28.519 --> 00:15:33.279 takes. It doesn't make you less of a person. I think people have 229 00:15:33.360 --> 00:15:37.240 just lost um and like this is a broad generalization. This is obviously not 230 00:15:37.279 --> 00:15:39.399 true for everybody, but I think people have lost the ability to like read 231 00:15:39.480 --> 00:15:46.080 context or just not take it so goddamn seriously right, where Like if people 232 00:15:48.159 --> 00:15:54.879 actively want to be wrong, which like sometimes I do, sometimes I want 233 00:15:54.919 --> 00:15:56.840 to be like, man, I fucking hate Randall Gritchuk and I don't want 234 00:15:56.919 --> 00:16:00.200 him on my team, regardless of what in a school of value he might 235 00:16:00.240 --> 00:16:03.679 bring over somebody else, Like if you're gonna sit here and argue with me 236 00:16:03.759 --> 00:16:07.440 that, like, oh, Ranald Gritchard is more valuable than Josh Pelacio, 237 00:16:07.480 --> 00:16:11.039 It's like, yeah, probably, But would I rather watch Josh Pelacios every 238 00:16:11.080 --> 00:16:17.879 day and root for Josh Pelacios A? And I feel like but also I'm 239 00:16:17.919 --> 00:16:21.039 aware that I'm wrong, but I don't care because I just want to say 240

00:16:21.039 --> 00:16:23.080 fuck the guy. And I think that this happens a lot when you get 241 00:16:23.159 --> 00:16:27.240 into things exactly a talking about things like pitching, things like advanced statistics, 242 00:16:27.519 --> 00:16:33.919 things like regular statistics, where just like the ability to be like to not 243 00:16:34.039 --> 00:16:37.919 have to be one hundred percent correct all the time, looking at every single 244 00:16:37.919 --> 00:16:41.320 angle with every single number. It's harder to find these days less except on 245 00:16:41.360 --> 00:16:48.240 this show which is like all we do absolutely right, absolutely right. Yeah. 246 00:16:48.360 --> 00:16:52.360 I think similar to the minor thing is I've tried to do less of 247 00:16:52.399 --> 00:16:56.080 this as I age. Is like and Pascal Siakam gets the same thing, 248 00:16:56.080 --> 00:17:00.440 where like his contract value gets conflated with like came or not, and it's 249 00:17:00.519 --> 00:17:04.079 like, it's not really what I'm in this for as a as a fan. 250 00:17:04.319 --> 00:17:08.119 It's obviously salary camp sports that it is part of team building, but 251 00:17:08.160 --> 00:17:12.759 like, I don't really care in the slightest that makes the most money on 252 00:17:12.799 --> 00:17:17.319 the team. I think the Raptors are a great argument for this, like 253 00:17:17.640 --> 00:17:21.599 our friend Kelsey who got shipped on by a bunch of dipshits a few months 254 00:17:21.599 --> 00:17:23.960 ago for saying that, like, she doesn't care if the Raptors win a 255 00:17:25.039 --> 00:17:29.279 championship, she just wants to root for a team she likes. And then 256 00:17:29.440 --> 00:17:30.680 idiots were like, wow, that's not what sports is about. It's like, 257 00:17:30.680 --> 00:17:33.640 well, maybe it is for some people, and also maybe it should 258 00:17:33.680 --> 00:17:37.480 be. She said that as a woman, though, so that's that's true. 259 00:17:37.519 --> 00:17:40.400 You're right, No, you're right times worse than if I said it. 260 00:17:40.480 --> 00:17:42.880 Absolutely Oh, if if you or I said it, we would not 261 00:17:42.960 --> 00:17:48.720 get corrected even once would never come up. No. But the point is 262 00:17:48.759 --> 00:17:53.680 it's the same attitude we went through that with the Kyle Lowry at the deadline 263 00:17:53.720 --> 00:17:57.039 last year, right exactly. And and the Pascal point is a great point, 264 00:17:57.119 --> 00:18:03.799 like his contract does not affect my enjoyment of Bascal at all, as 265 00:18:03.880 --> 00:18:07.200 like, how can you look at him on the bench to start the year 266 00:18:07.720 --> 00:18:10.480 being so vocal and fun and be like, whoa, he's making so much 267 00:18:10.480 --> 00:18:15.000 money and he's on the bench. Maybe you're watching sports wrong. In fact, 268 00:18:17.359 --> 00:18:18.960 I feel like we don't talk with that enough. But the people who 269 00:18:18.960 --> 00:18:29.559

are ostensibly correct and I'm using that in big, big air quotes about they 270 00:18:29.640 --> 00:18:34.039 have the true statistics to back it up, they might be right, but 271 00:18:34.160 --> 00:18:40.200 maybe they're watching sports wrong. That's funny. I had I had I had 272 00:18:40.200 --> 00:18:42.400 a clamoring of this the other day because I'm sure you using this, Jake 273 00:18:42.480 --> 00:18:47.440 is what is the new sort of wave? And this is listen, nothing 274 00:18:47.480 --> 00:18:49.119 wrong with this. People. Again, you're allowed to enjoy however you want. 275 00:18:49.119 --> 00:18:53.039 But people will like break down NBA film for the seemingly no real reason 276 00:18:53.319 --> 00:18:57.480 and be like, you know this drop coverage, there's a rotation and it's 277 00:18:57.519 --> 00:19:03.079 over and the player to blame on this play is X and boy, I 278 00:19:03.160 --> 00:19:04.400 gotta tell you, I look at the same thing and I'm like, yeah, 279 00:19:04.400 --> 00:19:07.200 it's a cool dunk, and then like, I don't know that it 280 00:19:07.240 --> 00:19:11.720 needs to I don't know that we need to have the amateur analysis. But 281 00:19:11.759 --> 00:19:14.079 listen, people want to get jobs and they want to love the sport, 282 00:19:14.079 --> 00:19:15.559 and then not to tell them that they're wrong. Anybody's allowed to joy it 283 00:19:15.599 --> 00:19:22.079 however they want. Just you know, I'm now deeper into embracing what I 284 00:19:22.119 --> 00:19:27.160 don't know and allowing it to be unknown with no real desire to reverse it. 285 00:19:29.160 --> 00:19:33.240 Yeah, I think I agree, and I since you know what I 286 00:19:33.319 --> 00:19:40.599 wants. Professionally, co hosted a hockey podcast, which is hilarious. First 287 00:19:40.599 --> 00:19:45.759 of all, money spent second of all on that show. I worked very 288 00:19:45.799 --> 00:19:51.839 hard to try and be a stat guy and to try and cover my bases 289 00:19:52.480 --> 00:19:56.920 because I don't know much. So I tried real hard to be like, 290 00:19:57.000 --> 00:20:00.480 this is what his fucking coursie is, and here's a bunch of stats. 291 00:20:02.440 --> 00:20:04.640 Ah, and I it was no fun. When I got to just like 292 00:20:04.680 --> 00:20:11.599 talk and like do a podcast, it was tons of fun, but the 293 00:20:11.680 --> 00:20:15.960 whole like exactly, this guy was the one who was wrong on this sick 294 00:20:15.039 --> 00:20:19.920 dunk. It's no fun. It's no fun. If it is for you, 295 00:20:21.440 --> 00:20:25.440 power to you. Absolutely don't reply to me and tell me about it. 296 00:20:26.319 --> 00:20:30.119 Absolutely. Um there's all that stuff that either fun or no fun, 297 00:20:30.160 --> 00:20:49.400 and we're weird to talk about that. In just a second, Jake, 298 00:20:49.599 --> 00:20:53.160 I want to start with, um, the world serious, we talked, 299 00:20:53.200 --> 00:20:57.279 we saw it, it ended last night. It's officially, thank fucking God, 300 00:20:57.599 --> 00:21:00.319 the worst playoffs to out. I'm never gonna think about these ploffs again 301 00:21:00.359 --> 00:21:03.880 in my entire life. Um. But predict much, Jake, how much 302 00:21:03.880 --> 00:21:07.759 did you watch of the whole fame? I watched ning six through nine last 303 00:21:07.839 --> 00:21:10.400 night. I was told the Braves were up seven nothing. I was like, 304 00:21:10.480 --> 00:21:11.480 yeah, I like to watch them celebrate, and I like to watch 305 00:21:11.519 --> 00:21:15.839 the champagne and the interviews and see who wins MVP. Um. And then 306 00:21:15.880 --> 00:21:21.319 I think I watched the Yankees get eliminated in the wild card game, and 307 00:21:21.440 --> 00:21:25.440 that's about it. Um. But anyway, predictably, Jake, I knew 308 00:21:25.440 --> 00:21:29.000 this was going to happen. I knew this is gonna happen because this is 309 00:21:29.039 --> 00:21:33.480 just life. A little bit of a smattering on the old TL today of 310 00:21:33.880 --> 00:21:37.599 uh, well, look at that. Aunt. Alexanthropolis went and did it. 311 00:21:37.640 --> 00:21:38.640 He went, glad, I'm glad you brought this up, because this 312 00:21:38.720 --> 00:21:41.480 ties into what we were just talking about. He went in, good old 313 00:21:41.519 --> 00:21:47.160 Alex went and did it. And and Cleveland, what are year? What 314 00:21:47.200 --> 00:21:49.000 a difference ten months makes. I'm about to come I'm about to come in 315 00:21:49.079 --> 00:21:56.799 here. And the pro Cleveland crew unfortunately, um listen first and foremost well 316 00:21:56.920 --> 00:22:00.279 established. You and I could not care less about who the g is, 317 00:22:00.319 --> 00:22:03.039 could not care less about who the team president is. It certainly is nice 318 00:22:03.119 --> 00:22:07.000 to have people that you like in those positions. I allow Massawiu Jerry's people 319 00:22:07.039 --> 00:22:11.200 that you believe in, people that represent good things for your cities and your 320 00:22:11.200 --> 00:22:14.720 franchises. But you also understand that there's a pretty good chance it's just a 321 00:22:14.799 --> 00:22:18.400 rich idiot. There's a pretty good chance it's a rich scumbang. And Thopolis 322 00:22:18.400 --> 00:22:19.720 seemed like a pretty good guy when he was here. He was obviously an 323 00:22:19.839 --> 00:22:23.079 architect of several very good moments that I remember very fondly. As we talked 324 00:22:23.119 --> 00:22:29.000 about twenty fifteen Blue Jays every single week, seemingly we were supposed to feel 325 00:22:29.039 --> 00:22:32.039 one way or the other about this. Did you feel anything at all about 326 00:22:32.160 --> 00:22:34.519 alexand Thopolis winning other than praying. You didn't have to see or hear about 327 00:22:34.519 --> 00:22:37.759 it, not even a little bit. And you know what, I'll be 328 00:22:37.799 --> 00:22:42.000 honest, I didn't even have to pray. I

didn't see or hear about 329 00:22:42.000 --> 00:22:45.480 it. Good for you. I don't think. I think there was a 330 00:22:45.519 --> 00:22:48.720 time in my life. It is again, this is sort what we were 331 00:22:48.759 --> 00:22:51.799 talking about. I think there was definitely a time in my life where this 332 00:22:51.799 --> 00:22:56.440 would have really bothered me, And if the Jays were still bad, it 333 00:22:56.519 --> 00:23:03.119 might bother me more. But now that the Jays are good, arguably arguably 334 00:23:03.839 --> 00:23:11.079 better than the team and Thopolis built, I don't care. I kind of 335 00:23:11.079 --> 00:23:15.400 look at it like if the heat. I've seen people getting really mad on 336 00:23:15.440 --> 00:23:22.440 the TL because American sports media and fans are discovering Kyle Lowry and how he 337 00:23:22.480 --> 00:23:25.799 was kind of shit talked forever when he was here, and you brought this 338 00:23:25.920 --> 00:23:30.440 up because today's Today's Tim McMahon was my favorite kind of Kyle Lowry insult where 339 00:23:30.440 --> 00:23:37.079 he thinks he's called the winning Kyle Lowry and people get really mad. But 340 00:23:37.279 --> 00:23:42.240 like, I think I've seen people getting really mad that, like other people 341 00:23:42.279 --> 00:23:49.119 are getting to come around on Kyle and if the Raptors hadn't won in twenty 342 00:23:49.200 --> 00:23:53.680 nineteen and Kyle had left without a title, and then like immediately leads Miami 343 00:23:53.720 --> 00:23:56.160 to one, and everyone's like, Wow, Kyle Lowry's actually amazing. I 344 00:23:56.160 --> 00:24:00.480 could see that bothering me a little bit, sure, but a title with 345 00:24:00.559 --> 00:24:04.960 us and gave us countless amazing memories. So who cares more of You'll think 346 00:24:06.000 --> 00:24:07.599 Kyle Lowry is awesome. That helps us Hall of Fame chances. I think 347 00:24:07.640 --> 00:24:12.839 that's great. The N Thoughtless thing I care even less about because, like 348 00:24:12.920 --> 00:24:18.160 I genuinely do have emotional attachment to Kyle Lowry, I have no thoughts or 349 00:24:18.160 --> 00:24:22.039 emotional attachment to alex and Thoughtless. I didn't really have thoughts or emotional attachment 350 00:24:22.079 --> 00:24:26.039 alex and Thoughtless when he was with the Blue Jays. Yeah, we didn't 351 00:24:26.039 --> 00:24:32.559 really think about him until the twenty fifteen deadline. Rather than that, I 352 00:24:32.680 --> 00:24:37.640 basically did not like n Thoughtless until the twenty fifteen deadline. We went through 353 00:24:37.680 --> 00:24:42.240 this in in I want to say September is storytime, where the twenty fourteen 354 00:24:42.279 --> 00:24:45.839 deadline people were like, get this fucking guy out of town, right. 355 00:24:45.519 --> 00:24:55.400 So my thing with the an thoughtless thing is I just can't imagine caring one 356 00:24:55.440 --> 00:25:00.039 way or the other, being happy or mad

about a team exact. I 357 00:25:00.119 --> 00:25:06.839 just can't. I I don't know if this is just like you know, 358 00:25:07.079 --> 00:25:11.759 getting tired with age or whatever. But like I don't, I don't, 359 00:25:11.839 --> 00:25:18.640 I don't care. I just don't know. I don't understand what the purpose 360 00:25:18.920 --> 00:25:25.039 is at this point in the history of the Blue Jays. As Blue Jays 361 00:25:25.079 --> 00:25:29.720 fans, I don't understand the purpose of getting worked up about this. It's 362 00:25:29.759 --> 00:25:33.640 a little bit um how did this affect the leaves? Right, It's a 363 00:25:33.920 --> 00:25:34.960 it's a little bit. It's a little bit of that where it's like, 364 00:25:36.319 --> 00:25:38.200 yeah, it's really got nothing to do with the Jay. And if it 365 00:25:38.240 --> 00:25:42.279 did have anything to do with the Jay's like he has been five years since 366 00:25:42.319 --> 00:25:48.119 he's been on the team, six years, right, because it's twenty fifteen. 367 00:25:48.559 --> 00:25:51.519 Uh so he wasn't even on the team in twenty sixteen. The Jays 368 00:25:51.559 --> 00:25:55.440 are ninety one win team. Almost every other year of your life, they 369 00:25:55.480 --> 00:25:59.079 would have made the playoffs handily. They have a very good pharmacystem there. 370 00:25:59.640 --> 00:26:02.680 They they went and got Barrios. They didn't do anything at the deadline. 371 00:26:02.680 --> 00:26:04.160 They got Burrios and went on a run. So to be upset, to 372 00:26:04.240 --> 00:26:07.720 be upset about it as a Jay's fan, and to be like off they 373 00:26:07.720 --> 00:26:10.039 had kept him, they'd be here or there. It's like that it was 374 00:26:10.039 --> 00:26:14.039 a pretty old team that took their shot in their two years and then you 375 00:26:14.079 --> 00:26:15.680 know, we would we on this show have said, But it seemed like 376 00:26:15.720 --> 00:26:18.440 they started to rebuild probably a year or two late. They probably could have 377 00:26:18.440 --> 00:26:22.599 done better on Hap, They could have done better on Donaldson Head a year 378 00:26:22.599 --> 00:26:25.039 where they didn't get much out of the pieces they had left. But then 379 00:26:25.359 --> 00:26:27.759 since then, I mean, they got the Oscar Hernandez for nothing, They 380 00:26:27.799 --> 00:26:32.799 got all kind of made all kinds of move but sht and and made moves 381 00:26:32.799 --> 00:26:37.119 to get Springer and maybe moves to get Reu traded for Barrios. That a 382 00:26:37.119 --> 00:26:40.920 lot of things Marcus Simeon was. So there's like to be upset that the 383 00:26:41.000 --> 00:26:45.799 Jays should have kept and Thopolis because an eighty eight win team in a division 384 00:26:45.839 --> 00:26:49.359 where every other team in the division completely collapsed and fell over in front of 385 00:26:49.400 --> 00:26:55.319 them managed to win the World Series. To me, is like, maybe 386 00:26:55.319 --> 00:26:57.319 you just like getting upset about things, right, Maybe you just enjoy like 387 00:26:57.440 --> 00:27:02.200 getting mad and sort of where I on it, because it's not that. 388 00:27:02.279 --> 00:27:06.240 It's not an indictment of the Jay's. It's not an indictment of the ownership. 389 00:27:06.240 --> 00:27:08.160 It's not inbe It's just it's just the way it works, guys. 390 00:27:08.279 --> 00:27:14.240 From it's to me, it's akin to being like Gibbey got a ring as 391 00:27:14.240 --> 00:27:17.519 an advisor for the Braves. The Jay should have kept him as manager this 392 00:27:17.519 --> 00:27:18.839 whole time. If you want to say the Jay should have kept Gibbey, 393 00:27:19.039 --> 00:27:22.920 listen, I'm plenty of time for that. But to act like it's at 394 00:27:22.960 --> 00:27:27.599 all related to the twenty fifteen thing, it's so silly to me, so 395 00:27:27.599 --> 00:27:32.079 silly that tea has been completely turned over. We have a we have a 396 00:27:32.160 --> 00:27:33.759 question in the mail bag that I was gonna get to this when we got 397 00:27:33.759 --> 00:27:37.039 to it, but we'll see it now. Our good, good old friend 398 00:27:37.039 --> 00:27:41.200 of the show, James Nielsen, asked us in an alternate universe when Anthopolis 399 00:27:41.359 --> 00:27:45.359 stays, what do you think happens to the Jay's And I think you can 400 00:27:45.440 --> 00:27:49.720 probably replace some names here or there, but I think not a lot changes. 401 00:27:51.880 --> 00:27:56.359 Because I'll say this much, Alex Anthopolis didn't make Josh Jownson not able 402 00:27:56.359 --> 00:28:00.319 to throw the first base at the beginning of the twenty seventeen season. Yeah, 403 00:28:00.400 --> 00:28:03.519 like, yeah, do they probably resign Edwin instead of signing Kendry's sure, 404 00:28:04.839 --> 00:28:07.640 but like that doesn't change the fact that Edwin and Battissa were another year 405 00:28:07.640 --> 00:28:11.759 older. And you could also do like, you know, their their draft 406 00:28:11.799 --> 00:28:15.599 record wasn't They didn't. They drafted a lot of good pictures. They didn't 407 00:28:15.599 --> 00:28:21.720 necessarily absolutely nail any player draft picks. They certainly, you know what I 408 00:28:21.759 --> 00:28:25.119 mean, there's they've certainly drafted very well in the time since he's been gone, 409 00:28:25.640 --> 00:28:32.319 yep, And they've drafted well. They've made small acquisitions. Well, 410 00:28:33.000 --> 00:28:37.359 thinking about you know, fucking Joe panic for Simber and Dickersus. Simber's here 411 00:28:37.400 --> 00:28:41.440 for two more years and he was lights out. Does an thopus make that 412 00:28:41.480 --> 00:28:47.359 move in the same situation. Probably, yeah, But he deserves gooda. 413 00:28:47.839 --> 00:28:49.480 He went and got three outfielders when all this outfielders got hurt, and they 414 00:28:49.480 --> 00:28:52.480 won the World Series without their ace or

their star. Right, they didn't 415 00:28:52.519 --> 00:28:56.240 have a Kuna, they didn't have Siroka. It's incredible, none of them 416 00:28:56.359 --> 00:29:03.720 unbelievable. None of this argument means that an thoughtless is bad at his job. 417 00:29:03.759 --> 00:29:08.440 He's clearly very good at it, very clearly. I just like I 418 00:29:08.440 --> 00:29:14.240 don't think anything changes for the James. I think the rebuild, if anything, 419 00:29:14.240 --> 00:29:18.680 the rebuild maybe takes longer to get going, possibly, you know, 420 00:29:18.720 --> 00:29:22.640 because he's if there's one thing in Thoughtless loves, it's sticking with his guys 421 00:29:22.440 --> 00:29:30.319 or acquiring his guys after the fact, maybe he would have signed Remember the 422 00:29:30.319 --> 00:29:36.440 spring Batista wanted like four years eighty million, Right, this is what it 423 00:29:36.519 --> 00:29:41.000 means. And I think there's lots of positives and reasons to respect an thoughtless 424 00:29:41.079 --> 00:29:45.200 for liking his guys and sticking with his guys. And I think, you 425 00:29:45.240 --> 00:29:47.519 know, it's like what you're talking about earlier about liking your team. I 426 00:29:47.519 --> 00:29:56.000 think that's a noble good thing to have in a GM. But does that 427 00:29:56.079 --> 00:30:00.839 set the Jay's back another year or two? Maybe? No idea, But 428 00:30:00.000 --> 00:30:04.640 I think this, but this idea that I think the the ship has sailed 429 00:30:04.640 --> 00:30:10.480 on, the idea that they are worse off without him. Yeah, I 430 00:30:10.519 --> 00:30:14.039 think that's I think that's absolutely true, and put into Atlanta in a great 431 00:30:14.039 --> 00:30:17.799 situation and obviously did enough to make them a World Series team. What I 432 00:30:17.799 --> 00:30:19.839 take away from it, Jake, I'll tell you this what I take away 433 00:30:21.039 --> 00:30:25.400 from this run that Atlanta went on to win the World Series um into a 434 00:30:25.480 --> 00:30:30.079 lesser ecentse some of the other teams that made a deeper thing is Again, 435 00:30:30.480 --> 00:30:34.160 we talked about this right after the Jay's season. Um, the most talented 436 00:30:34.200 --> 00:30:37.200 team does not always win the World Series. It's not. It's nothing to 437 00:30:37.240 --> 00:30:40.680 do basically has nothing to do with who has the most talent. It's it's 438 00:30:40.680 --> 00:30:45.200 about one month where one team wins a lot of games by chance or by 439 00:30:45.720 --> 00:30:48.160 skill or one way or the other, they find a way to win games. 440 00:30:48.160 --> 00:30:52.319 So so really, when I look at this Jay's off season, we're 441 00:30:52.319 --> 00:30:55.799 about to face as as you know, it's fragency starts to thinking like a 442 00:30:55.839 --> 00:31:00.920 week. Um, keeping in mind right that that if if they don't bring 443 00:31:00.920 --> 00:31:04.799 back Ray, if they don't bring back Semi, and they can replace those 444 00:31:04.799 --> 00:31:07.920 guys with guys that aren't as talented, guys that aren't going to put up 445 00:31:07.920 --> 00:31:12.279 the same numbers, and it could work out next year just because Boston doesn't 446 00:31:12.319 --> 00:31:18.319 win ninety two games, or the Yankees have to step back or a pitcher 447 00:31:18.400 --> 00:31:22.359 or you know, Pearson becomes the rotation piece and the pitching doesn't go through 448 00:31:22.359 --> 00:31:26.559 a lull and they win ninety five games with basically the like with a lower 449 00:31:26.599 --> 00:31:29.480 talent level or anything like that. It's about matchups, it's about luck, 450 00:31:30.720 --> 00:31:33.880 you know, trying not to freak out during this offseason or what I what 451 00:31:33.960 --> 00:31:36.359 I am, what I'm getting from the Atlanta thing. Again, the division 452 00:31:36.359 --> 00:31:38.160 makes it hard and all that, but I just think, over the over 453 00:31:38.200 --> 00:31:42.559 the grand scheme, being the most talented and having the highest ceiling is not 454 00:31:42.599 --> 00:31:48.119 necessarily a guarantee that anything good will happen to you. Ever, Yeah, 455 00:31:48.200 --> 00:31:51.000 I think I completely agree with that, and I also think that in terms 456 00:31:51.039 --> 00:31:56.200 of keeping things in check for this offseason, and the team's already good, 457 00:31:57.440 --> 00:32:02.240 like if they don't bring back those guys, it'll be harder. But it's 458 00:32:02.279 --> 00:32:05.799 also like they just won ninety one games and didn't make the playoffs, so 459 00:32:07.039 --> 00:32:10.680 they're in a good spot. Absolutely. Um shifting Gareth slightly to a team 460 00:32:10.720 --> 00:32:15.240 that is awful fun to watch your and my townal Raptors. After a week 461 00:32:15.279 --> 00:32:19.559 of walking it back, I'm ready. I'm ready once again walking forward, 462 00:32:19.640 --> 00:32:23.519 Jake, You're gonna do this. They beat the Knicks, so get her 463 00:32:23.559 --> 00:32:30.240 going. Uh listen, an unbelievably likable team save for like one or two 464 00:32:30.279 --> 00:32:34.480 maybe guys. One who doesn't play is really what it is. Yeah, 465 00:32:34.519 --> 00:32:37.200 and and Chris Bouchet seems to be a bit of whipping boy right now, 466 00:32:37.240 --> 00:32:43.759 but he's been not good, really exactly what we expected. Tenacious, defensively, 467 00:32:44.480 --> 00:32:47.440 tons of fun, great vibes, never out of anything. Um, 468 00:32:49.240 --> 00:32:52.440 I'm really really enjoying it, really loving Scotty obviously, but oge, holy 469 00:32:52.519 --> 00:32:58.400 Moley, thirty six in the Garden incredible. Really, it's really been fun. 470 00:32:58.440 --> 00:33:00.640 It really has been already more fun than I expected. And I had, 471 00:33:00.680 --> 00:33:02.960 I had listen, we had we had pretty lofty goals. We were 472 00:33:04.000 --> 00:33:06.599 in here

talking about fifth seed. Shit, we were talking about we were 473 00:33:06.599 --> 00:33:08.599 talking about sixth seed. We were talking about not even to being the playing 474 00:33:08.599 --> 00:33:12.799 game at one point. We've we've we've been pretty high. And I think 475 00:33:13.599 --> 00:33:16.200 ken Birch has been an excellent piece. It looks like a guy that they 476 00:33:16.240 --> 00:33:21.319 can really rely on and count on. Um, you love Freddie, you 477 00:33:21.440 --> 00:33:24.519 love Scottie, even spe turning it around, I think if you look at 478 00:33:24.559 --> 00:33:30.599 bringing Pascal back and then if you can send out go Ran and get back 479 00:33:30.599 --> 00:33:34.720 even a even a tenth man, even a even a bench guy, even 480 00:33:34.759 --> 00:33:37.519 a rotation piece, one more guard. You're cooking with something here. This 481 00:33:37.559 --> 00:33:40.440 No one's gonna want to play this team, that's for sure. Yeah. 482 00:33:40.480 --> 00:33:44.920 I think what's sort of made them. I mean, this is gonna sound 483 00:33:45.119 --> 00:33:50.319 kind of obvious and dumb, but things that I think have made them more 484 00:33:50.440 --> 00:33:53.799 fun is that not only were they fun, but now they might actually be 485 00:33:53.839 --> 00:34:00.400 good and like legitimately good, like that Knicks. And the other night was 486 00:34:00.440 --> 00:34:06.720 where they went to me from a team that was like, this is gonna 487 00:34:06.720 --> 00:34:13.840 be a really fun year until it's not. And now I'm like, this 488 00:34:13.920 --> 00:34:22.280 might just be a fun year. They might just be like good and like 489 00:34:22.440 --> 00:34:25.760 again, they're not gonna win the title or anything, but they might our 490 00:34:25.840 --> 00:34:37.719 original stupid idea about what this team could do might not be so stupid. 491 00:34:38.039 --> 00:34:40.760 I think I'm back in. I think I'm fully back in. Tons of 492 00:34:40.760 --> 00:34:45.480 fun that they played tonight. Ums we record this so yeah, it's it's 493 00:34:45.519 --> 00:34:51.280 been a blast and us and pieces still to come. Pascal back, Utah 494 00:34:51.280 --> 00:34:54.360 coming back. Um pretty sick, pretty fun, pretty pretty well put together. 495 00:34:54.519 --> 00:34:59.960 Seemed to really enjoy playing with each other. Um A real problem defensively 496 00:35:00.039 --> 00:35:01.199 for a lot of teams. And even though you know, we talked about 497 00:35:01.239 --> 00:35:05.800 they're going to have offensive struggles at times when they do get hot. Holy 498 00:35:05.880 --> 00:35:07.639 jeez, they were just hitting everything against the Knicks. They're just from where 499 00:35:07.639 --> 00:35:12.719 they went to where they threw it from. Unreal. Uh Yeah, lots 500 00:35:12.719 --> 00:35:15.559 of fun and they certainly play hard, which is all you can really ask. 501 00:35:15.599 --> 00:35:20.159 Yeah, and they're you know, they seem they're exactly what we want 502 00:35:20.159 --> 00:35:22.800 in a Raptors team. They're kind of dogs, but they seem to like 503 00:35:22.920 --> 00:35:27.079 each other and they're fun to watch on the sidelines. They have great, 504 00:35:27.880 --> 00:35:30.559 great bench vibes. I know we went through with the Jays and like how 505 00:35:30.599 --> 00:35:35.559 important bench vibes can be to get people on side. The Raptors have some 506 00:35:35.599 --> 00:35:40.199 really good bench vibes. Yeah, I think that's uh, I think that's 507 00:35:40.239 --> 00:35:43.760 absolutely correct. Um, So that'll be, that'll be, that'll be. 508 00:35:43.960 --> 00:35:46.599 That'll be a good fun, little little thing to keep, little thing to 509 00:35:46.639 --> 00:35:52.800 keep note on as we move forward into the winter, because it's nice to 510 00:35:52.840 --> 00:35:59.800 have that nix of like, it's exciting. They're they're going to be achieving. 511 00:36:00.000 --> 00:36:01.440 Actually, you know what, you already pulled a question out. I'm 512 00:36:01.440 --> 00:36:05.000 going to pull a question out. This is actually a question from my brother 513 00:36:05.039 --> 00:36:07.239 in law. He dm me a question for the mail bag. I didn't 514 00:36:07.280 --> 00:36:12.199 give it to you, and it basically is around these Raptors. The question 515 00:36:12.280 --> 00:36:15.239 is, and I think this is right up our ally, Jake, which 516 00:36:15.280 --> 00:36:21.639 do you enjoy watching more a great team meeting expectations or a good team exceeding 517 00:36:21.679 --> 00:36:27.159 expectations. Basically, is your twenty nineteen Raptors who you expected to be a 518 00:36:27.199 --> 00:36:31.519 title contender spending the whole season being a title contender, or this year's team 519 00:36:31.519 --> 00:36:40.440 maybe accidentally becoming a five seat This is a cop out answer, but I 520 00:36:40.480 --> 00:36:45.559 think the context matters the most. To me, sure, like this Raptors 521 00:36:45.559 --> 00:36:51.480 seem is fun because there's no expectations, Like there's not even low expectations, 522 00:36:51.480 --> 00:36:54.800 there's none. It's kind of whatever they do was gravy, which makes it 523 00:36:54.840 --> 00:36:59.960 a lot of fun. But like I also don't think they're winning a champion 524 00:37:00.119 --> 00:37:05.519 hip this year, and more often than not, winning the championship is more 525 00:37:05.519 --> 00:37:09.159 fun than not. You can make argument that pre pandemic twenty twenty season was 526 00:37:09.239 --> 00:37:13.800 more fun than the championship winning season the year before, and I think that's 527 00:37:13.840 --> 00:37:21.000 fair. But I think watching a great team meet expectations if it's my team 528 00:37:21.559 --> 00:37:23.599 and I'm like, they are going to win a championships. Like if the 529 00:37:23.639 --> 00:37:28.039 Blue Jays are as good as we think they are next year and make the 530 00:37:28.119 -->

00:37:30.039 right additions and they just kind of cruise and then win the World Series. 531 00:37:31.519 --> 00:37:37.920 I take that over them being like not signing anybody and having like upstart their 532 00:37:37.960 --> 00:37:40.679 way to a World Series kind of thing. Sure, I guess if you 533 00:37:40.719 --> 00:37:45.800 wanted to make a Blue Jay's comparison, you know, it was twenty sixteen 534 00:37:45.639 --> 00:37:50.440 more fun than twenty twenty one, in which case I would say no, 535 00:37:50.440 --> 00:37:52.719 because twenty sixteen was kind of a nightmare, right because we thought they were 536 00:37:52.719 --> 00:37:55.719 going to be the best team in the American leagues and then they went yes, 537 00:37:58.159 --> 00:37:59.960 yes, So I guess it. I guess it is the latter. 538 00:38:00.119 --> 00:38:02.480 I guess it's just sort of the the upstart surprise is more fun. Certainly 539 00:38:02.519 --> 00:38:06.800 would be hard to not be enjoying their after so far, other than other 540 00:38:06.800 --> 00:38:08.320 than like literally Game one where it was like, oh, they don't know 541 00:38:08.360 --> 00:38:12.719 what to do on offense. I'd just been a bit of a treat to 542 00:38:12.719 --> 00:38:15.280 watch these guys battle every night. It's hard. It's it's really hard to 543 00:38:15.360 --> 00:38:20.800 not I don't know what argument you could make to not enjoy it, to 544 00:38:20.880 --> 00:38:24.840 be honest, other than to people will find a way really specific about I 545 00:38:24.840 --> 00:38:31.119 don't know, subs or something. Sure not liking Bouchet who in the open 546 00:38:31.199 --> 00:38:35.320 gym when they were celebrating og Bouchet on his phone the whole time. Tisk 547 00:38:35.400 --> 00:38:40.679 tisk. That's a dumb narrative. I know people. People were replying to 548 00:38:40.760 --> 00:38:45.320 a tweet immediately, bad body language, people say, I, you know, 549 00:38:45.679 --> 00:38:49.360 Jake to closes to put a bow on this whole thing. Being thirty 550 00:38:49.360 --> 00:38:52.559 six years old, I really didn't have the realization that, like you know, 551 00:38:52.599 --> 00:38:55.719 I've been I've been on Twitter for far too long, far too long. 552 00:38:55.719 --> 00:39:01.360 I got that fucking update there ten year Twitter anniversary last month. I 553 00:39:01.400 --> 00:39:05.519 think I'm I think I'm at twelve Yeah, twenty two thousand and nine, 554 00:39:05.599 --> 00:39:12.679 twelve years so um, people who are twenty four right, which is which 555 00:39:12.719 --> 00:39:15.480 is twenty which is twelve years ago for me when I joined people who are 556 00:39:15.519 --> 00:39:20.599 twenty four, we're twelve years old when I was on Twitter. That's us 557 00:39:21.079 --> 00:39:24.079 so much. And you remember we all did this. Everybody a right did 558 00:39:24.079 --> 00:39:25.800 this? You say, Oh man, thank god Twitter wasn't around when I 559 00:39:25.800 --> 00:39:30.079 was in

high school. When I was a teenager, right. All those 560 00:39:30.119 --> 00:39:32.119 people that Twitter was around for them to be they're old in their twenties. 561 00:39:32.159 --> 00:39:39.079 Now they're all adults. I don't know why I like or do anything anymore, 562 00:39:39.119 --> 00:39:42.360 you know what I mean? Yeah, I think that's just getting older, 563 00:39:42.440 --> 00:39:47.679 right, Yes, it is just getting older. I have no I 564 00:39:47.719 --> 00:39:54.000 have no wants really, quite simply, whatever is how I feel about almost 565 00:39:54.039 --> 00:39:59.159 everything going forward feels good. Man. I got bigger problems, you know. 566 00:39:59.159 --> 00:40:00.679 I'm trying to buy a goddamn house over here. Life is challenging. 567 00:40:02.079 --> 00:40:08.079 It's not gonna happen. Also, anyway, the one thing we can always 568 00:40:08.119 --> 00:40:13.840 do is rely on ourselves to like music and movies and things of that nature. 569 00:40:13.880 --> 00:40:31.920 So we're gonna go into that and the mail bag after this, Jake, 570 00:40:32.039 --> 00:40:37.519 we are back, and I will ask you, a veritable oracle of 571 00:40:37.639 --> 00:40:42.760 music, what is your song with the week? Okay, we're not on 572 00:40:42.800 --> 00:40:46.119 the right word. We're not calling me that. I refuse that. No, 573 00:40:46.159 --> 00:40:52.480 it's not. But uh, the song of the week from the Oracle 574 00:40:52.519 --> 00:40:53.719 of music, which now as I say it, now that they say it 575 00:40:53.760 --> 00:40:58.360 more, I'm like, oh do I like it? So of the week 576 00:40:58.719 --> 00:41:02.840 is another kill for the highlight Reel I Save Face. This album came out 577 00:41:02.920 --> 00:41:07.480 last week. It's super fun. I don't really know much about the band 578 00:41:08.119 --> 00:41:14.800 themselves, but musically they are a band that I would say in a positive 579 00:41:14.800 --> 00:41:21.760 way. Where's their influences proudly and loudly, and those influences happen to be 580 00:41:22.920 --> 00:41:25.280 music I like growing up because it just kind of sounds like my chemical romance 581 00:41:25.280 --> 00:41:30.320 and taking back Sunday. And that's a good thing. And it's really fun 582 00:41:30.360 --> 00:41:32.119 and really good and if you like those bands, you should listen to it. 583 00:41:32.159 --> 00:41:37.199 The album is of the same name of the song, so highly recommend 584 00:41:38.960 --> 00:41:42.800 excellent. And is there anything any music you hated in the last week? 585 00:41:42.880 --> 00:41:46.440 Jay, Oh right, I got I got great response from my least heard 586 00:41:46.480 --> 00:41:49.480 song of the week second, so I feel like I feel like they hated 587 00:41:49.480 --> 00:41:51.440 ones more in your ads because you listen to the radio a lot more than 588 00:41:51.480 --> 00:41:54.239 I do, which is at all I know. I don't. I don't 589 00:41:54.360 --> 00:41:59.800 because I have to choose

my music to listen to. I don't. I'm 590 00:41:59.840 --> 00:42:02.320 not gonna be like I'm gonna listen to something now like it's not gonna happen. 591 00:42:04.000 --> 00:42:06.880 Yeah, I don't have anything that I can think of off the top 592 00:42:06.880 --> 00:42:09.239 of my head. My wife as long as that. She hates so much 593 00:42:09.280 --> 00:42:15.719 that it's no longer tenable. And we've we've actually switched radio stations and and 594 00:42:15.840 --> 00:42:17.000 haven't. Yeah, we've turned radio off entirely. When she hears that, 595 00:42:17.000 --> 00:42:20.679 I don't even remember what it is anymore. What's that stupid? What's that 596 00:42:20.679 --> 00:42:22.719 song? What's that stupid song? I want to know now, No, 597 00:42:22.840 --> 00:42:25.880 I want to know. Just tell me else. She's gonna. Um god, 598 00:42:25.920 --> 00:42:31.800 it sounds like it almost sounds like carnival music. It's like um uh 599 00:42:31.960 --> 00:42:38.920 oh, yeah, it's it's like let's hang or something. No, anyway, 600 00:42:38.960 --> 00:42:45.159 it's fucking so bad. Uh. Maybe someone will figure that out to 601 00:42:45.239 --> 00:42:49.320 tell us. I hope so, um go out with a bang. I 602 00:42:49.360 --> 00:42:53.440 don't even know. I don't even know. Um Oh, I think I 603 00:42:53.719 --> 00:42:57.880 got it. I think I got it. I got it. I think 604 00:42:57.920 --> 00:43:00.960 it is that banged by A j R. A j R. What even 605 00:43:01.199 --> 00:43:04.000 is that? Yeah? I get up, I get down and I'm jumping 606 00:43:04.039 --> 00:43:07.320 around. Yeah, A j R. It's bad. It's a bad song. 607 00:43:07.920 --> 00:43:14.400 I've hates that a lot. Anyway, that's my pick wrestling wrestling match 608 00:43:14.440 --> 00:43:17.000 of the week. We're gonna shout out our guy Big Mocks Uh John Moxley, 609 00:43:17.039 --> 00:43:22.280 who I've talked about extensively on this show of the years. Um came 610 00:43:22.320 --> 00:43:25.039 down yesterday from old t k Uh Tony con the guy in charge of a 611 00:43:25.239 --> 00:43:31.400 w that Mocks has voluntarily checked into an alcohol addiction recovery center. And when 612 00:43:31.719 --> 00:43:36.480 we want to give our love to the guy Big Mos alcohol addiction the laughing 613 00:43:36.559 --> 00:43:38.960 matter, no joking matter, a serious thing. And glad to hear he's 614 00:43:38.960 --> 00:43:44.119 getting help because get a young kid and his wife Nay who we used to 615 00:43:44.119 --> 00:43:45.920 work with, Jake, if you can believe her. Oh that's right. 616 00:43:45.079 --> 00:43:47.559 Yeah, Um, yeah, I go intrough some tough times, which I 617 00:43:47.559 --> 00:43:51.280 hate to see you for such a tough guy. But I'm glad he's getting 618 00:43:51.320 --> 00:43:53.960 help and all the time he needs all the recovery he needs to get to 619 00:43:54.039 --> 00:43:58.559 get better and get healthy and beat this thing. So all the love in 620 00:43:58.559 --> 00:44:01.960 the world,

the Big mox Jake. Anything catch your eye, television, 621 00:44:02.079 --> 00:44:05.760 NEWT movie, anything, anything, anything you just had to sit down and 622 00:44:05.800 --> 00:44:10.239 watch anything? Anything. Yeah. We did um our own little version of 623 00:44:10.280 --> 00:44:15.599 The Spookies for the last week of October. I think we've been doing throughout 624 00:44:15.599 --> 00:44:19.039 the month. Today I forgot to mention the last couple weeks is someone on 625 00:44:19.159 --> 00:44:21.719 Twitter. I don't know who because my wife saw it and didn't show me 626 00:44:21.760 --> 00:44:27.679 the tweet, but someone on Twitter in the very beginning of the month commented 627 00:44:27.719 --> 00:44:34.159 that there are now enough episodes of Treehouse of Horror that you could watch one 628 00:44:34.280 --> 00:44:38.679 every day for the month of October. So we did that. We didn't 629 00:44:38.679 --> 00:44:42.320 really watch them one every day. We kind of just we watched all thirty 630 00:44:42.360 --> 00:44:45.679 one in the month of October. Is the point. And I'll tell you 631 00:44:45.599 --> 00:44:52.239 real weird to have Simpsons episodes I've never seen before. Yeah, I would. 632 00:44:52.280 --> 00:44:54.280 I would go so far as to say there are more Symptoms episodes you 633 00:44:54.360 --> 00:44:58.320 haven't seen them on. There are, But there was a time where that 634 00:44:58.440 --> 00:45:00.239 wasn't the case. It would be there was a time where it would take 635 00:45:00.320 --> 00:45:04.159 years so that to be the case, right, which it did. Those 636 00:45:04.280 --> 00:45:08.519 years have happened. Uh, And just like a weird I don't know why, 637 00:45:09.079 --> 00:45:14.079 it felt very weird to have like to be watching up to the Simpsons 638 00:45:14.159 --> 00:45:19.920 and be like, I don't know what's about to happen, how what was 639 00:45:20.280 --> 00:45:23.639 what were the was there like? Where was there some good stuff in the 640 00:45:23.760 --> 00:45:30.320 new It was okay, it's all equal levels of funny, which is to 641 00:45:30.360 --> 00:45:36.719 say not that much funny. Yeah, I think that there's there. I 642 00:45:36.760 --> 00:45:40.320 would say there was obviously, I haven't really watched New Simpsons and I don't 643 00:45:40.320 --> 00:45:44.880 even know how long, but from the vibe I get from the Internet, 644 00:45:45.519 --> 00:45:47.360 which could be true or not, or could just be people mad, it's 645 00:45:47.360 --> 00:45:52.199 not what it was and they were younger. It's bad. And I don't 646 00:45:52.199 --> 00:45:57.679 know if it's because I just have less sort of I had no expectations, 647 00:45:57.880 --> 00:46:04.679 or because Treehouse episodes sort of allowed them to be a little more experimental, 648 00:46:05.480 --> 00:46:07.960 and it's kind of like not having to fit a format and it's like seven 649 00:46:08.039 --> 00:46:13.639 minutes and the sketches sketches over. But like, I'm not going to sit 650 00:46:13.719 --> 00:46:15.039 here and say, like the Nutrius of Horror is as good as like the 651 00:46:15.159 --> 00:46:21.159 classic ones from the classic seasons, but there's some stuff in there that made 652 00:46:21.159 --> 00:46:25.199 me chuckle. We can ask nothing great but entertaining enough. It's like I 653 00:46:25.280 --> 00:46:29.840 can ask you yeah. And then we also watched all the Final Destinations and 654 00:46:29.880 --> 00:46:32.840 all the screams. Oh baby, man, the screams are good. They 655 00:46:32.920 --> 00:46:37.559 really are, man, the screams really really good. I don't love three. 656 00:46:37.639 --> 00:46:39.719 I don't love the third one. Yeah, I've heard that, but 657 00:46:40.960 --> 00:46:46.800 I like Scream four a lot. Um great picts, great picks. We 658 00:46:46.880 --> 00:46:52.320 started watching The Missed, which is the show, the show. I've never 659 00:46:52.360 --> 00:46:55.360 seen the show. I love the movie. We thought it was the movie, 660 00:46:55.400 --> 00:46:58.880 and then about two and a half hours and we were like, damn, 661 00:46:58.960 --> 00:47:01.920 this is movie's really slow. It's like, oh, it's two episodes 662 00:47:01.960 --> 00:47:06.159 of a TV it's been three episodes of a TV show. It's all right, 663 00:47:06.199 --> 00:47:08.360 it's pretty good. Jake, the damn miss that, he's forgetting it. 664 00:47:08.440 --> 00:47:12.760 What the damn Missed is what happens? Right is there They're going with 665 00:47:12.800 --> 00:47:15.639 their lives and you're like, oh, yeah, the mist right, the 666 00:47:15.760 --> 00:47:19.280 mist Um, you should watch the movie. You should watch the movie. 667 00:47:19.320 --> 00:47:22.000 Though it's I think we were trying to. I think we were trying to 668 00:47:22.159 --> 00:47:27.840 one of my favorite endings ever in a movie, really without spoiling anything, 669 00:47:28.800 --> 00:47:30.280 um, trying to think of what else made the doc that we watched Unfriended, 670 00:47:30.360 --> 00:47:37.079 which was really something, really something, What a way to do a 671 00:47:37.159 --> 00:47:44.159 movie? Must have been interesting to put together that way. The constant laptop 672 00:47:44.239 --> 00:47:50.719 screen uh of a format, very nerve, very like anxiety inducing. I 673 00:47:50.760 --> 00:47:53.239 will say, yeah, really unsettling. Right, this is fucking And then 674 00:47:53.360 --> 00:47:59.480 some of the deaths were like, whoa holy fuck fucked up? Man? 675 00:48:00.880 --> 00:48:05.920 Fucked up? Yeah, agree, fucked I just didn't funk a lot. 676 00:48:05.920 --> 00:48:07.480 I don't really care. Uh yeah, so that was. That's put up 677 00:48:07.480 --> 00:48:09.519 with that. And now and now it's no longer, you know, and 678 00:48:09.599 --> 00:48:14.480 now it's not it's not November anymore, but we're in December. October. 679 00:48:14.639 --> 00:48:17.440 Geez, brain, it's not October anymore.

It's not that, it's not 680 00:48:17.480 --> 00:48:22.000 what it's not what it was. I ain't that the truth. Um so, 681 00:48:22.159 --> 00:48:23.840 yeah, we'll see what We'll see what goes on coming up. But 682 00:48:24.519 --> 00:48:27.519 yeah, the miss the TV show. We're gonna watch the movie too, 683 00:48:27.559 --> 00:48:31.480 because that seems to be much better. Uh so it goes. Velbag started 684 00:48:31.480 --> 00:48:35.519 off with why Jay's asking a very interesting question, Jake, Well, when's 685 00:48:35.519 --> 00:48:38.039 the first time you heard the word bussy? I actually have an answer to 686 00:48:38.119 --> 00:48:45.480 this. I read it on on a meme. Yesterday Yesterday was your first? 687 00:48:45.119 --> 00:48:51.039 Is bussy is yesterday? It could have been Monday? Wow? I 688 00:48:51.119 --> 00:48:52.800 mean, like, I's I guess it's possible. I've seen it before. 689 00:48:53.119 --> 00:48:57.039 I've certainly never heard it said aloud. I thought it was pronounced bussy. 690 00:48:57.960 --> 00:49:01.639 Uh, it's possible. I've seen it on like memes or TikTok's before, 691 00:49:01.920 --> 00:49:05.320 but I never registered until I saw the other day and I went, I 692 00:49:05.360 --> 00:49:10.480 don't get this joke. Mm hmm um chibooky young White on Twitter would have 693 00:49:10.519 --> 00:49:17.440 been where I first time I was exposed to that, like two years ago, 694 00:49:17.559 --> 00:49:21.519 probably because it was in it was in big Mouth. I know he 695 00:49:21.599 --> 00:49:23.280 writes for that show. Oh okay, so I watched that show, so 696 00:49:23.559 --> 00:49:27.760 I heard it then and I didn't. It just didn't register because I didn't 697 00:49:27.760 --> 00:49:32.320 know the word. Yeah, um boy. And maybe you know, maybe 698 00:49:32.320 --> 00:49:37.320 it was even before. Maybe it was Sweatpants Poppy before that. Who's somebody 699 00:49:37.320 --> 00:49:45.039 I follow it half for years? Uh Ka, what single Jay's off sne 700 00:49:45.320 --> 00:49:52.960 season addition would make you the most excited? Are we taking out like resignings? 701 00:49:52.679 --> 00:49:57.559 Taking out? If your answer is resigning Marcus Simmi, it's not make 702 00:49:57.599 --> 00:50:01.480 you if your answer was resigning Robbie Ray, I mean, it's got to 703 00:50:01.519 --> 00:50:05.559 be Jose Ramirez. It's Jose Ramirez. Well, listen, we did this 704 00:50:05.679 --> 00:50:09.119 last year with them getting Francisco Indoor, and we just said it every week 705 00:50:09.199 --> 00:50:14.760 until it happened to go to somewhere else. I am one hundred percent telling 706 00:50:14.800 --> 00:50:17.079 you with one hundred percent of my heart, and the Blue Jays are going 707 00:50:17.119 --> 00:50:20.639 to trade for Jose Ramirez. I have a thing in the back of my 708 00:50:20.760 --> 00:50:25.320 brain that they're actually going to trade for Matt Chapman, which like would be 709 00:50:25.400 --> 00:50:31.400 fine. I'd prefer Jose Ramirez so they answer the question, is Jose Jose 710 00:50:31.559 --> 00:50:37.000 Ramirez, Yeah, it's joseres If they get Jose Ramirez and resigned Semion, 711 00:50:37.320 --> 00:50:45.400 I will be a very very happy man. Would also make definitely make space 712 00:50:45.480 --> 00:50:50.400 for Chapman, and that Chapman would be like absurd have like an absurd edition 713 00:50:50.519 --> 00:50:53.000 would be would be silly talk if they went and get If they went and 714 00:50:53.039 --> 00:50:57.599 got Chapman, I would be be cackling, to be frank with you. 715 00:50:57.800 --> 00:51:02.599 I also would not say no to another outfielder. Sure, but I think 716 00:51:02.599 --> 00:51:07.320 you can probably get that as like a not not your big splash like they 717 00:51:07.360 --> 00:51:10.760 have they have a center fielder, so they can find a corner outfielder. 718 00:51:13.239 --> 00:51:20.280 Yeah, uh Lee for not twenty four. This is we love you for 719 00:51:20.400 --> 00:51:27.800 trying hearing that there's something exciting about I left this in just because this pull 720 00:51:27.840 --> 00:51:30.360 back the curtain on the podcast and how things go do you record in one 721 00:51:30.440 --> 00:51:34.480 session? How much planning do you record together? I love the idea that 722 00:51:34.599 --> 00:51:38.320 this is spread out, This is not just one hour and a half where 723 00:51:38.360 --> 00:51:43.920 we're rambling and then turning it. I love the assumption that there's anything that 724 00:51:43.960 --> 00:51:46.800 goes into this other than turning microphones on. I can tell you exactly what 725 00:51:46.960 --> 00:51:53.039 goes into this. I go to our Twitter page and I write the or 726 00:51:53.239 --> 00:51:59.000 copy and paste the questions. We go back into a word document. I 727 00:51:59.119 --> 00:52:06.280 send that to zoobs Zoode starts up our recording and that's it. Yep. 728 00:52:07.119 --> 00:52:10.079 We do not record together. We record together in that we record at the 729 00:52:10.119 --> 00:52:14.960 same time talking. Yeah, I don't record my half and then send it 730 00:52:15.000 --> 00:52:16.599 to you and then you react to it. That would be impossible. But 731 00:52:16.679 --> 00:52:21.039 we don't live in the same city, so no. Um. We used 732 00:52:21.039 --> 00:52:24.400 to record at Spacemiky Studios, which is in Toronto, but I moved away 733 00:52:24.639 --> 00:52:30.119 and COVID. Literally the last thing I did before getting shut down was was 734 00:52:30.199 --> 00:52:32.199 record with you in the studio. Just put a cab with a total stranger 735 00:52:32.880 --> 00:52:37.079 and uh spiraled, spiraled, I slowly, we surely was like Jake, 736 00:52:37.119 --> 00:52:39.440 I'm insanely worried about this, and you were like, yeah, me too. 737 00:52:39.480 --> 00:52:42.400 I guess you were like, it's not that bad. This one like 738 00:52:42.440 --> 00:52:45.239 six cases in Toronto. I think you

said, yeah, that's a good 739 00:52:45.239 --> 00:52:46.159 idea, and then we got home when the NBA was canceled, I was 740 00:52:46.159 --> 00:52:52.599 like, hmmm, yeah, not so good. So yeah, we do 741 00:52:52.719 --> 00:52:57.639 that. We each record maybe this helps. We each record our audio individually, 742 00:52:58.000 --> 00:53:01.840 as well as recording both of our audio together in a program called Zencaster, 743 00:53:01.920 --> 00:53:06.320 which records our audio together, and then we send each other the audios 744 00:53:06.960 --> 00:53:09.440 whoever's turn it is to edit the episode or the whatever it is, and 745 00:53:09.559 --> 00:53:13.440 we just match them up and then use the audio. So you're recording yours 746 00:53:13.480 --> 00:53:15.760 into Garage Band, I'm recording one into Adobe Audition. We then merge those 747 00:53:15.800 --> 00:53:22.760 recordings to create one recording. And in terms of how much planning next to 748 00:53:22.840 --> 00:53:25.000 none next to the I mean, the benefit of having a sports podcast is 749 00:53:25.039 --> 00:53:28.360 like, we don't really need to plan that much. It's just reacting to 750 00:53:28.400 --> 00:53:34.400 what happened thought and once again we're not digging through, we're reacting. It's 751 00:53:34.519 --> 00:53:37.960 it's it's really a literally just hearing our first thoughts on it. Sometimes not 752 00:53:38.039 --> 00:53:44.840 even right yeah, there's even less than that. Okay, Uh, the 753 00:53:44.880 --> 00:53:47.239 bue is trade for Homeway, oh will Yeah, the Blue Tape trade for 754 00:53:47.320 --> 00:53:51.880 Jose Ramirez before or after the lockout ends. Actually, glad this has phrased 755 00:53:51.880 --> 00:53:57.719 the way that it is. Um. I am not as on high alert 756 00:53:57.760 --> 00:54:00.519 for transactions as I normally would be, because I do think we're not going 757 00:54:00.559 --> 00:54:02.400 to see much happen before we see what the new CBA is. It would 758 00:54:02.400 --> 00:54:07.280 be unless unless players are like, the new CBA is going to rob me 759 00:54:07.360 --> 00:54:08.639 of X or Y, and I need to get it before that happens. 760 00:54:08.960 --> 00:54:13.880 But going to be a lockout, yes, So I would expect to not 761 00:54:14.119 --> 00:54:17.960 see much happen until that happens. Maybe they trade for Ramirez, but there 762 00:54:19.000 --> 00:54:21.760 could be service time changes. Cleveland could want to see what the difference is 763 00:54:21.800 --> 00:54:24.519 in the prospects service time. There could be difference in in the pay schedules, 764 00:54:24.559 --> 00:54:28.320 which changes the value of everybody who's not on a forty man roster. 765 00:54:28.760 --> 00:54:32.920 A lot of things could change, So we will see sort of how that 766 00:54:34.079 --> 00:54:37.280 sorts out. So I would say after the lockout, which is a kind 767 00:54:37.280 --> 00:54:42.400 of way to put it, but after the labor negotiation period, I'll say 768 00:54:42.519 --> 00:54:46.159 with an optimistic card. Yeah, I'm pretty confident there's gonna be a lockout. 769 00:54:46.159 --> 00:54:49.760 I thought there's gonna be a lockood for like five years for sure, 770 00:54:50.639 --> 00:54:57.480 So I'm gonna say after Yeah, hopefully it doesn't seem like no nobody seems 771 00:54:57.480 --> 00:55:00.559 to be thinking that we're gonna lose many games or the But yeah, I 772 00:55:00.599 --> 00:55:04.679 don't think they're gonna I don't think they're gonna lose the season. I do 773 00:55:04.880 --> 00:55:08.239 think they're going to have a stoppage, though. Jeez, that's a bummer. 774 00:55:08.519 --> 00:55:13.800 Bat sucks um Mark Gillis, what's the best chip flavor for each of 775 00:55:13.840 --> 00:55:20.119 these? Ruffles, Doritos and Miss Vickys. Uh, Ruffles, I'm I'm 776 00:55:20.159 --> 00:55:22.639 just gonna say plain with an onion dip, playing with dip, baby, 777 00:55:22.679 --> 00:55:25.360 you are correct, Jake, what was the second one? The Rito's? 778 00:55:25.960 --> 00:55:30.199 Oh sweet chili heat, I mean that original red bag. I have nothing 779 00:55:30.239 --> 00:55:34.639 that's a red bag. That's the that's the flagship of the franchises. I'm 780 00:55:34.679 --> 00:55:37.880 listen, I'm very, I'm very it's gonna be disappointing. My answer for 781 00:55:37.000 --> 00:55:40.880 Ruffles is playing Ruffles. My answered to Rodrito's is Dirido flavored Drudos. Hang, 782 00:55:40.960 --> 00:55:45.599 that's fair. My answer for Miss Vicky's is hallopinia. I'm pretty into 783 00:55:45.639 --> 00:55:47.880 that spicy pickle. Not gonna lie. I still haven't tried it. I 784 00:55:47.880 --> 00:55:50.800 saw on the story the other day for the first time. I'm gonna grab 785 00:55:50.880 --> 00:55:53.639 a bag and Pretty D's, Pretty D's, and then the classic Miss Vicky's, 786 00:55:53.880 --> 00:55:58.760 Uh Salt Miniger, which is where they made their headlines. Although I 787 00:55:58.800 --> 00:56:04.760 don't like what it does to my mouth, Sure about try uh cjm asks 788 00:56:05.039 --> 00:56:07.039 us to the Jay's go for a two fur and get both Seekers for the 789 00:56:07.119 --> 00:56:12.039 infield. This is Kyle and Corey on your left side. Uh No, 790 00:56:12.360 --> 00:56:15.440 because there's no way in how Bobbie Chat's moving off short stop. I don't 791 00:56:15.480 --> 00:56:17.679 think they can afford Well, that's so stupid they can afford him. I 792 00:56:17.719 --> 00:56:22.119 don't know that Corey Seeker is the match. I don't think that he is. 793 00:56:22.400 --> 00:56:30.400 I agree, I'm I'm pretty I'm pretty open to whoever. There's a 794 00:56:30.480 --> 00:56:34.360 lot of good shortstops in middle infielders coming up in this class, so I'm 795 00:56:34.400 --> 00:56:37.360 pretty open to that being whoever, um good player. I think there's a 796 00:56:37.559 --> 00:56:42.320 better chance than I thought there was a couple weeks ago about being

Simian. 797 00:56:42.400 --> 00:56:45.800 I think the league I've heard the league views him as a second baseman now, 798 00:56:45.880 --> 00:56:47.559 and if that's soft the table. Maybe he really liked it here, 799 00:56:47.559 --> 00:56:52.679 Maybe he really enjoyed being a blue Jay. Maybe he won ninety one games 800 00:56:52.719 --> 00:56:54.000 and was like, shit, we can do we can go further. Maybe 801 00:56:54.079 --> 00:56:58.039 that he sees himself as a leader. Am Onney young team could be and 802 00:56:58.119 --> 00:57:01.719 Samian could be back on three years on a three year deal. It's possible. 803 00:57:02.679 --> 00:57:06.360 I you know, we've talked a lot to say about how we're dumb, 804 00:57:07.559 --> 00:57:09.760 so I could be very dumb on this, not that high on Kyle 805 00:57:09.800 --> 00:57:15.000 Seeger anymore. Well, yes, that's now you're talking. You're talking third 806 00:57:15.039 --> 00:57:19.199 base, you're talking left handed bat um, that would be your I would 807 00:57:19.239 --> 00:57:22.840 think that would be your Like he's my he's definitely not. He's my third 808 00:57:22.960 --> 00:57:28.039 choice. I guess. Let's say, yeah, Chapman doesn't work out, 809 00:57:28.400 --> 00:57:31.440 and you don't trade for amire Edge because there is no god that sort of 810 00:57:31.480 --> 00:57:37.559 thing, don't. Chris Bryant resigns in San Francisco, Like I have Seeger 811 00:57:37.599 --> 00:57:40.800 pretty down on the list of Like I think someone's gonna pay too much money 812 00:57:40.840 --> 00:57:45.320 for Kyle Seeger, I guess is really my point? Yeah, Dereth blue 813 00:57:45.400 --> 00:57:47.039 Jay, how much can we reasonably get from Oakland in a trade? I 814 00:57:47.159 --> 00:57:53.280 think I think Chapman's not crazy Man Chapman and uh, who else would you 815 00:57:53.360 --> 00:57:58.360 like? I'm trying to think of. I wonder if you can do like 816 00:57:58.519 --> 00:58:01.559 a Chapman plus a reliever or something. Sure, yeah, they got they 817 00:58:01.639 --> 00:58:06.639 grow on trees out there and oquin right, although they were terrible, weren't 818 00:58:06.639 --> 00:58:08.760 they they were No, they were great and then they completely clap. Oh 819 00:58:08.800 --> 00:58:13.559 the bullpen, Yeah, the bullpen was awful. I'll tell you what I'd 820 00:58:13.599 --> 00:58:15.519 like them to do, which this will not happen because it's too much. 821 00:58:16.000 --> 00:58:22.559 I would think I would love a Matt Chapman and Starling Marte trade, right, 822 00:58:22.880 --> 00:58:25.400 Yes, Darling Marte is strongly one of your guys. I love Staran 823 00:58:25.480 --> 00:58:30.960 martell Um. Yeah, I think I think Chapman's reasonable. Listen, if 824 00:58:30.960 --> 00:58:34.960 you get Chapman, but the rest of the fail. If they can get 825 00:58:35.039 --> 00:58:36.920 Chapman, I'm not gonna be like, oh but they could have got Like, 826 00:58:37.079 --> 00:58:40.840 who cares? If you get Chapman, I'm happy. Awesome asks us 827 00:58:40.880 --> 00:58:45.480 if you could make decent money posting racy photos and videos on only fans, 828 00:58:45.639 --> 00:58:53.239 would you do it. I do not have the self confidence to do so. 829 00:58:54.480 --> 00:58:59.880 But power to everyone who does sex workers work. Depends what you mean. 830 00:59:00.039 --> 00:59:07.440 I decent money also fair, right, if it was a feasible it 831 00:59:07.559 --> 00:59:10.639 was if it was feasible first and foremost, I would have to talk to 832 00:59:10.679 --> 00:59:15.480 my wife about it. Right. It's one of those conversations where you you 833 00:59:16.719 --> 00:59:22.760 here's kids in us. Yeah, so I'm not going to close the door 834 00:59:22.800 --> 00:59:28.159 on it. I don't think anybody wants that from me, right. But 835 00:59:28.239 --> 00:59:30.199 the idea, the basis of the question is if you could make decent money 836 00:59:30.559 --> 00:59:36.639 sure, which I don't think we could. Frankly no, absolutely, when 837 00:59:36.840 --> 00:59:39.000 we're not making decent money off a Patreon, which is people would people would? 838 00:59:40.440 --> 00:59:46.119 I think, Yeah, that's who there's a play Well, you know 839 00:59:46.159 --> 00:59:49.440 you can just put pictures to your feet and it would be fine. Right, 840 00:59:49.519 --> 00:59:52.679 that's true. I kind of gross feet, though, I don't know. 841 00:59:52.760 --> 00:59:58.000 Maybe would never. There are ugly people are models and stuff. Probably, 842 00:59:58.000 --> 01:00:04.199 I don't know that's true. Yeah. Uh. Josh mccraye. If 843 01:00:04.199 --> 01:00:08.239 the Raptors are able to start Barnes, sam og FVV and Birch for fifty 844 01:00:08.280 --> 01:00:10.920 games, you think they avoid the play in I think We've been pretty clear 845 01:00:12.039 --> 01:00:15.440 that we're suddenly like this is a six seed because because here's the thing. 846 01:00:15.440 --> 01:00:19.519 The Celtics are terrible. Yeah, and like here's the thing, not as 847 01:00:19.559 --> 01:00:22.960 they avoid the plan. I think there's an outside shot at home Court in 848 01:00:22.960 --> 01:00:30.599 the first round. I'm just gonna say I love it. I love it. 849 01:00:30.559 --> 01:00:36.880 Uh, Scott, here's a Scott says ranked the grocery store chains. 850 01:00:36.880 --> 01:00:39.760 People love people to rank things. You know what, I'm not gonna lie. 851 01:00:39.880 --> 01:00:45.960 I google X and Y ranked sometimes I get it. Sure, I 852 01:00:46.039 --> 01:00:47.840 don't have one for this. I don't care. They're all the same. 853 01:00:49.960 --> 01:00:53.400 Um so listen. I've we live near a Great Kiddy, a real kiddian 854 01:00:53.400 --> 01:00:57.599 superstore, which is nice because it's like so big. It's like a Joe 855 01:00:57.679 --> 01:01:05.199 Fresh and a La Blaws together anything, So that's nice. La Blaws is 856 01:01:05.239 --> 01:01:07.199 Nils and I'm I'm a fancy boy like my lab

lab Blaws at St. 857 01:01:07.239 --> 01:01:09.800 Clay West used to have a three piece band that would play on weekends. 858 01:01:10.880 --> 01:01:17.480 Uh. I don't know, man don't like. I don't like the Sobey's 859 01:01:19.199 --> 01:01:22.599 Urban Fresh where it's like there's a half an aisle of everything and it's only 860 01:01:22.639 --> 01:01:24.880 the most expensive brands. I hate that. At least that was the closest 861 01:01:24.880 --> 01:01:28.280 switch of store. And I was at fort York before they built the new 862 01:01:28.360 --> 01:01:30.920 Lablas, and I was like, oh, this sucks. I feel like 863 01:01:30.960 --> 01:01:35.320 I really went through a time when I was younger in Toronto being like this 864 01:01:35.639 --> 01:01:38.440 chain is cheaper, this chain is better. I don't know if I don't 865 01:01:38.480 --> 01:01:43.199 know if that's if like things have just shaped, if that was true at 866 01:01:43.239 --> 01:01:47.440 a time and now it's no longer true. But I don't They're all the 867 01:01:47.519 --> 01:01:51.679 same, Yeah, I think like if we're just talking, if we're just 868 01:01:51.920 --> 01:01:54.599 talking chains, yeah, they're all the same. I have the PC points, 869 01:01:54.679 --> 01:01:58.280 so I you know, I would put I would put no frills ahead 870 01:01:58.280 --> 01:02:01.880 of food basics. I would put mid level whatever the middle is above the 871 01:02:01.920 --> 01:02:07.599 middle of the other one. You know, yeah, yeah, uh goodness 872 01:02:07.679 --> 01:02:10.719 gracious um. Garrett S. Wallan, what's the best way to celebrate a 873 01:02:10.920 --> 01:02:15.159 thirty one plus year old birthday? I'll go to a bar with like four 874 01:02:15.199 --> 01:02:17.920 people. You like, Yeah, you're gonna have to plan it yourself and 875 01:02:19.039 --> 01:02:22.440 do whatever you like because nobody else cares. Man. A thing that I've 876 01:02:22.480 --> 01:02:25.440 learned is that I don't really have birthday events somewhere because I I love like 877 01:02:25.559 --> 01:02:30.360 making plans with people. I feel really weird and always have about like making 878 01:02:30.480 --> 01:02:37.519 my own birthday plans for some reason. Uh, and uh, that's you 879 01:02:37.639 --> 01:02:42.280 have to do that now. So I go to a barth like four people 880 01:02:42.920 --> 01:02:45.639 nice and I drink and I talk people I like, and that's the end 881 01:02:45.639 --> 01:02:46.880 of it. Yather, you're you get the food. You get the food 882 01:02:46.920 --> 01:02:50.039 you like and eat that. Get the drinks you like and drink that. 883 01:02:50.559 --> 01:02:53.239 Uh, go to bed at a reasonable hour. Yeah. Um, maybe 884 01:02:53.280 --> 01:02:57.000 maybe do something in the afternoon that you enjoy, like go to a store 885 01:02:57.159 --> 01:02:59.199 that you like or oh that's a good one. Yeah, go for a 886 01:02:59.239 --> 01:03:01.000 walk, whatever it is you like to do in your spare time. Give 887 01:03:01.039 --> 01:03:06.679 yourself two hours of that. I was like, you know, you're not 888 01:03:07.639 --> 01:03:13.079 like mommy special boy on your birthday, just sort of chill. You're fine. 889 01:03:13.320 --> 01:03:16.760 Yeah, it's all just the other day. Yes, flu do you 890 01:03:16.800 --> 01:03:22.840 see yourselves being play chess at the park guys when you're senior citizens? Uh? 891 01:03:22.360 --> 01:03:27.199 No, park weirdo. I don't think so. I think they'll definitely 892 01:03:27.239 --> 01:03:29.280 do things that people be like, wow, look at that weird old guy. 893 01:03:29.280 --> 01:03:30.800 But I don't think that's one of them. Yeah, I'll be I'll 894 01:03:30.840 --> 01:03:34.960 be if this is even possible in the future, I'll be radio at a 895 01:03:34.960 --> 01:03:37.679 baseball game guy. Later. Yeah, I was gonna say, or scoring 896 01:03:37.760 --> 01:03:45.039 that or something. Yeah, And and will definitely be like walking around guy. 897 01:03:45.239 --> 01:03:47.440 That guy's walking around you know. Yeah. I hope I'm not radio 898 01:03:47.519 --> 01:03:52.880 call in show guy. That's my big hope. God, God, that'd 899 01:03:52.880 --> 01:03:59.320 be great. It would be great if you became that. Uh do will 900 01:03:59.440 --> 01:04:02.000 for zoos role? Would you cast for Jake and Heel's season two? Oh? 901 01:04:02.239 --> 01:04:05.000 Yes, Heel's picked up for a second season. Apologies to anybody who 902 01:04:05.039 --> 01:04:11.239 I ruined season one four in the week, Um, you gotta be. 903 01:04:11.360 --> 01:04:13.360 You would have to be like a you'd like a promoter, You like a 904 01:04:13.400 --> 01:04:15.840 sleazy promoter. Yeah, would definitely wouldn't be Brile from somewhere up north. 905 01:04:16.559 --> 01:04:19.280 You maybe if you'd be a scout and I get your scout from from the 906 01:04:19.800 --> 01:04:24.039 New York territory, sleazy Scouts a part I was born to play, maybe 907 01:04:24.199 --> 01:04:29.840 absolutely right. And finally from Prairie Jay's two simple words, Jake favorite soup. 908 01:04:31.400 --> 01:04:34.719 I actually have a specific favorite soup. I love that about you. 909 01:04:35.920 --> 01:04:42.920 Uh man, what's it called? The restaurant Uniter United, Baker's Dairy restaurant, 910 01:04:43.920 --> 01:04:46.559 Bathroost and Lawrence makes a split pe of noodle soup. They'll knock your 911 01:04:46.599 --> 01:04:53.000 socks off. Very nice. You know, I was like four years old. 912 01:04:53.199 --> 01:04:55.920 Great, Yeah, I think Jake low key nice with it is French 913 01:04:55.960 --> 01:04:59.119 onion soup. I love a French onion soup. I don't like that much 914 01:04:59.159 --> 01:05:01.719 onion. General. Put a French onion soup. Yeah, I'll take it. 915 01:05:01.800 --> 01:05:05.239 I'll take it all off. Good onions, good cheese, good bread. 916 01:05:05.440 --> 01:05:10.000 Good. That's it. I don't know why I said a hundred, 917 01:05:10.079 -->

01:05:14.199 but I was gonna put up present on the end of that. But yeah, 918 01:05:14.280 --> 01:05:16.880 I agree. Usually the emoji he did one hundred under did um? 919 01:05:17.920 --> 01:05:23.840 What was I gonna say? Um? Well, you famously caramelised onions, 920 01:05:24.039 --> 01:05:30.000 guys, that's yeah, that's you. I do. I put caramel's onions 921 01:05:30.039 --> 01:05:34.840 on anything I can cool. All right, that's it for the mailback. 922 01:05:34.880 --> 01:05:40.079 We are going to move forward with the sad not sad at the end. 923 01:05:40.159 --> 01:05:59.639 After this we return, it is time to wrap this mofo up, and 924 01:06:00.280 --> 01:06:02.760 currently before we do that, a quick announced, a quick little housekeeping piece 925 01:06:03.400 --> 01:06:06.920 here. Baseball season is over, blue Jay season is over. We love 926 01:06:06.920 --> 01:06:10.639 the Blue Jays, we love our baseball. Obviously talked about it in a 927 01:06:10.719 --> 01:06:13.880 ton this year. With the end of the year coming up, we're gonna 928 01:06:13.880 --> 01:06:15.400 take a little break swatch our legs a little bit here for the next little 929 01:06:15.400 --> 01:06:20.480 bit. We'll be back in with full time episodes NonStop in the new year, 930 01:06:20.559 --> 01:06:24.840 but we're going to turn it down a little bit. We'll jump back 931 01:06:24.880 --> 01:06:27.800 in if the Jays make a big splash and if the Raptors make a deal, 932 01:06:28.239 --> 01:06:30.880 if there's a big trade that rocks the world, will come back in, 933 01:06:30.119 --> 01:06:33.800 but we'll have more information about what that means for the show on our 934 01:06:33.880 --> 01:06:38.480 social media coming out in the next little bit. We got some ideas. 935 01:06:38.760 --> 01:06:42.679 I'm excited. We got ideas. Listen, there's no way that I'll be 936 01:06:42.760 --> 01:06:47.119 able to not speak repeatedly into a microphone every week. So whether it be 937 01:06:47.239 --> 01:06:50.159 just a little short things or whatever it may be, we're going to figure 938 01:06:50.159 --> 01:06:54.480 it out and let you know first, because you are the sportsful, the 939 01:06:54.480 --> 01:06:57.119 audience, and we love you the most. So just something to note. 940 01:06:58.239 --> 01:07:01.239 If next week you're like, what's going on? That is what's going on 941 01:07:01.639 --> 01:07:04.840 anyway, which leads us to this Jake to ask whether you are sad or 942 01:07:04.960 --> 01:07:06.960 not sad? This week, Jake, are you sad or not? Said, 943 01:07:08.159 --> 01:07:11.639 I'm gonna go with the sad to close it out for maybe twenty twenty 944 01:07:11.679 --> 01:07:15.840 one. Here, I need to get a wisdom tooth removed, and I'm 945 01:07:15.920 --> 01:07:19.440 not happy about it. I've been told in May that it was going to 946 01:07:19.519 --> 01:07:23.079 happen, like I got X rays in there, like this too, should 947 01:07:23.079 --> 01:07:25.880 probably not be in your head anymore, and I was like, okay, 948 01:07:26.320 --> 01:07:30.840 and I address it now. It hurts, and it's sorrying to hurt in 949 01:07:30.920 --> 01:07:33.840 other parts of my head. So I was like, I should probably get 950 01:07:33.880 --> 01:07:38.239 this taken care of, which I'm going to, and I'm it'll be fine. 951 01:07:38.239 --> 01:07:42.280 It's like the most basic fucking thing you can get done. And like, 952 01:07:42.800 --> 01:07:45.000 my wife has gone through much much worse this year, so I am 953 01:07:45.079 --> 01:07:48.800 not one to complain about well, I am one to complain to th about 954 01:07:48.840 --> 01:07:54.039 this, but yeah, I'm just I'm just not happy because I don't want 955 01:07:54.079 --> 01:07:59.000 to. It seems shitty, seems not good. What a nightmare that sounds 956 01:07:59.039 --> 01:08:02.039 like in all forms, both having the headaches, having the extra tooth, 957 01:08:02.119 --> 01:08:08.119 and the having to get surgery for it. That sounds quite bad, Jing, 958 01:08:08.280 --> 01:08:14.880 but also like it'll be fine. Yeah, um yeah, yeah, 959 01:08:14.960 --> 01:08:19.840 yeah, what about you? I would say, I would say, I 960 01:08:19.880 --> 01:08:23.039 would say, I guess I land on the sad side again this week. 961 01:08:23.359 --> 01:08:29.920 Uh sucks once continuing to play this stupid housing lottery, completely insane, completely 962 01:08:30.399 --> 01:08:34.880 a nonsensical meaningless numbers. Money has no meaning, the offers have no meaning, 963 01:08:34.960 --> 01:08:40.479 none of it means anything. Completely from our first viewing and offer to 964 01:08:40.600 --> 01:08:44.000 our most recent woman, we were like barely even thought about the fact that 965 01:08:44.039 --> 01:08:46.239 we were signing over hundreds of thousands of dollars and committing to something for three 966 01:08:46.319 --> 01:08:50.640 decades of payment. Basically we're just like, yeah, whatever, they don't 967 01:08:50.680 --> 01:08:58.000 take it, I don't even care. Truly dispiriting, truly crushing, and 968 01:08:58.119 --> 01:09:05.359 I hate having to uh continue to bounce back from it. We continue to 969 01:09:05.399 --> 01:09:10.479 bounce back, and it's annoying, um, and we want to just get 970 01:09:10.479 --> 01:09:13.399 it done with and have our new house and be excited and look forward to 971 01:09:13.479 --> 01:09:17.760 that. So annoying, but so it goes. Uh. It is sort 972 01:09:17.800 --> 01:09:19.680 of the way that it goes, and I don't want it to be the 973 01:09:19.760 --> 01:09:24.199 only you know what if everything is Jake is is and yesterday was this big 974 01:09:24.279 --> 01:09:27.760 time, It's just like we need my life friend, I needed a second 975 01:09:27.800 --> 01:09:30.520 thing to talk about and look at on the internet because it's just sort of 976 01:09:30.600 --> 01:09:34.720 like you want to get it, yeah, you want to get it solved, 977 01:09:34.760 --> 01:09:38.079 so it just it ends up being all you talk about it and just 978 01:09:38.159 --> 01:09:40.800 like, oh, we need to we need a second thing to talk about 979 01:09:40.800 --> 01:09:44.840 because this is too much houses, too much houses, I mean, and 980 01:09:44.840 --> 01:09:49.239 then you know, you just you design a whole basement together and you so 981 01:09:49.640 --> 01:09:56.640 where nothing worse than house hunting for purchase or for friend. Absolutely correct, 982 01:09:56.720 --> 01:10:00.640 I mean that that's this is the you know, the next part is the 983 01:10:00.800 --> 01:10:05.199 next part is goodness gracious, then you've got to actually coordinate a move. 984 01:10:05.319 --> 01:10:10.159 Oh my goodness. Yeah, I don't envy you for that at all. 985 01:10:11.479 --> 01:10:15.800 Anyway, that is it for another episode of Sportsfeld. We have more sports 986 01:10:15.840 --> 01:10:18.640 felled at patreon dot com slash sports how We're doing a mailbag right after this. 987 01:10:18.800 --> 01:10:23.439 So if you thought this mailbag was good, oh doctor, wait until 988 01:10:23.479 --> 01:10:26.680 it's nothing but the mailbag, then you know, then you know it's got 989 01:10:26.800 --> 01:10:31.359 to be good. It's rules he trying to do com slash fourths field if 990 01:10:31.399 --> 01:10:34.000 you want to do that. In the meantime, we look forward to hearing 991 01:10:34.079 --> 01:10:38.279 from you again. On the social media. So we've all been there forever 992 01:10:38.439 --> 01:10:40.840 ten years, a guess, each of us ten and twelve years, good 993 01:10:40.840 --> 01:10:45.840 lord, disgusting too much, too long, far too long to have stopped 994 01:10:45.880 --> 01:10:48.840 getting value out of it years ago, and continue too And yet I'll never 995 01:10:48.960 --> 01:10:54.319 quit trudge. Absolutely they're burying me with the platform that is it. We 996 01:10:54.399 --> 01:10:57.239 thank you so much, as always for listening to sports Field