Volledige transcriptie van Episode 17: Robots, Road Trips and Trouser Tents

30 00:02:20.060 --> 00:02:23.219 couple of oldies just to see how their how including including spider man, to 31 00:02:23.659 --> 00:02:28.020 the Sam rains by the man to which some claims still to this day, 32 00:02:28.580 --> 00:02:31.370 is our is. It is one of the greatest zero superhero moves ever made. 33 00:02:31.810 --> 00:02:37.330 What do we think about that is fantastic. I'm liable to agree with 34 00:02:37.409 --> 00:02:42.810 you that. I just remember how entertaining it was and the particulars first two. 35 00:02:42.810 --> 00:02:46.039 I though there's no surprise that the expectations for spider man three were so 36 00:02:46.199 --> 00:02:52.719 high, because the progression from the first spider man to spider man too was 37 00:02:52.919 --> 00:02:55.919 phenomenal and so that they had quite a high bar to clear. It would 38 00:02:55.960 --> 00:03:00.870 have been good if not for interventions. Yeah, the studio into service and 39 00:03:01.110 --> 00:03:07.550 the the kind of edict that they include Venom, a character that the Samuraimi 40 00:03:07.590 --> 00:03:13.219 didn't particularly like, or one. Yeah, I think slightly diluted things somewhere. 41 00:03:13.300 --> 00:03:15.060 Had They not, I've had venom would have been right. They rushed 42 00:03:15.060 --> 00:03:16.539 the Green Goblin stuff. This is spider man's three, obviously we're talking about. 43 00:03:16.539 --> 00:03:19.979 They rushed the Green Goblins. Yeah, and the same man stuff with 44 00:03:20.139 --> 00:03:23.780 Thomas Haden Church, who was a really good actor, and you know that 45 00:03:23.819 --> 00:03:25.539 would have been terrific. They're just given in the space. Yeah, funny 46 00:03:25.539 --> 00:03:30.169 you should say that because I I'm checked out, because it was it was 47 00:03:30.250 --> 00:03:35.250 on sky and I just I needed something to kind of fill my time in 48 00:03:35.289 --> 00:03:38.330 my brain as I watched the amazing spider man. We should talk about that 49 00:03:38.449 --> 00:03:44.039 at some point because I love the amazing spider man films. I I was 50 00:03:44.120 --> 00:03:46.120 less in amored of the amazing spider man. There's a lot to like about 51 00:03:46.120 --> 00:03:51.159 it, but this time round I just it didn't it didn't do it for 52 00:03:51.280 --> 00:03:54.830 me as it did last time. But it's funny with with kind of a 53 00:03:54.909 --> 00:03:59.469 progression of it, because the day we are recording, I believe, is 54 00:04:00.069 --> 00:04:04.750 it's seven years since the release of amazing spider man too. Huh. And 55 00:04:05.229 --> 00:04:15.379 there was a video circulating on on twitter earlier today that basically was showing one 56 00:04:15.460 --> 00:04:18.939 of the the deleted scenes that they didn't put in at the end of the 57 00:04:19.019 --> 00:04:23.259 amazing spider man too. Oh, I know the one. Yes, so, 58 00:04:24.610 --> 00:04:29.410 but the graveyard with with Richard Parker, Peter's Dad, not the tiger 59 00:04:29.490 --> 00:04:33.610 from life. That would have been a very different movie turning up. And 60 00:04:35.449 --> 00:04:43.040 Yeah, I think because it's a really emotional scene. He returns to you 61 00:04:43.120 --> 00:04:46.000 know, apologized to son for deserting him, but he did it to keep 62 00:04:46.040 --> 00:04:54.430 him safe and actually Garfield's performance in that scene is fantastic and it would have 63 00:04:54.550 --> 00:05:00.870 been a really great way I mean, it would have been a I don't 64 00:05:00.870 --> 00:05:02.110 know if we'd have been a down rule, a more of a down or 65 00:05:02.990 --> 00:05:06.819 something to kind of lift the movie after all that's gone on, but it 66 00:05:06.939 --> 00:05:13.220 certainly would have given even even more interest. I was certain film and I 67 00:05:13.259 --> 00:05:15.980 think it's weak of for not having it in there. Yeah, I'm not 68 00:05:15.060 --> 00:05:17.980 a huge as I say. And the amazing spider man, I think he's 69 00:05:17.980 --> 00:05:20.970 a great film with a great score, great direction, great performances, with 70 00:05:21.129 --> 00:05:25.569 accept not exacception of reciplons. I think the villain in it is a bit 71 00:05:25.610 --> 00:05:28.329 of is a bit. He's where the film kind of falls down. Yeah, 72 00:05:28.370 --> 00:05:30.689 when you get to the amazing spider man, till I really liked it 73 00:05:30.250 --> 00:05:33.730 because the end was so brave. But the problem is, is an end 74 00:05:33.850 --> 00:05:38.680 brave if you don't then pick up the pick up the story again, because, 75 00:05:38.839 --> 00:05:40.720 you know, initially I think they were just doing it when they said 76 00:05:40.759 --> 00:05:42.759 because of the rights are going to lapse, and then it was a case 77 00:05:42.839 --> 00:05:45.519 of hey, we're going to go in a really interesting direction with this amazing 78 00:05:45.560 --> 00:05:48.240 spider man. Oh No, actually, Sony and and Marvel they want to 79 00:05:48.240 --> 00:05:50.550 get involved together. Let's start. Let you know what, there's just sack 80 00:05:50.629 --> 00:05:55.709 this off and go with someone. Yeah, I think with with amazing spider 81 00:05:55.750 --> 00:06:00.430 man to not making the money that they're they're expecting kind of box office records 82 00:06:00.589 --> 00:06:05.220 money for it. I think it's certainly made it certainly made enough to warrant 83 00:06:05.259 --> 00:06:11.740 a sequel, but not as much as a marvel, marvel Sony collaboration was 84 00:06:11.819 --> 00:06:14.180 going to which obviously it was. And don't get me wrong, I mean 85 00:06:14.220 --> 00:06:17.689 I think spider man homecoming. He's absolutely superb, to be honest. Yeah, 86 00:06:17.730 --> 00:06:20.569 I don't think other than spider man three, I don't think there's really 87 00:06:20.610 --> 00:06:25.329 a bad spider man. I'm I'm inclined

to agree with you that. I 88 00:06:25.850 --> 00:06:30.050 think amazing spider man two gets rough ried. It does do that really annoying 89 00:06:30.290 --> 00:06:38.040 thing of trying to build a universe before you know, they running, before 90 00:06:38.040 --> 00:06:44.000 they can walk, where you're introducing characters for the purposes of using them in 91 00:06:44.040 --> 00:06:47.310 a later film that's never going to materialize. Yeah, and that's that's really 92 00:06:47.910 --> 00:06:51.189 does one of my book bays. I'm also really kind of interested in those, 93 00:06:51.269 --> 00:06:56.069 those kind of films that promise a sequel that never appeared, never occurred, 94 00:06:56.350 --> 00:07:00.629 even even down to I mean Guy Richie teased a sequel to rock and 95 00:07:00.670 --> 00:07:04.300 roller of all furness hand, which is just random, and I don't think 96 00:07:04.420 --> 00:07:09.540 they think anybody's crying out for a sequel to rock and roll. Sorry, 97 00:07:09.699 --> 00:07:13.100 I'm not. I'm not a fan, but yeah, so, no, 98 00:07:13.579 --> 00:07:15.490 it's really interested. I'm fascinated to know where they were going to go. 99 00:07:15.610 --> 00:07:19.410 I know there are stories out there about where the amazing spider man three was 100 00:07:19.490 --> 00:07:25.329 going to go, and they do. See sound absolutely backcrap crazy, and 101 00:07:26.089 --> 00:07:29.490 they had the idea and they were going to continue with the sinister six, 102 00:07:29.610 --> 00:07:32.399 the yeah, we're gonna do yeah, which is my comic book drain, 103 00:07:32.920 --> 00:07:38.439 just because I love spider man. For those of you who don't know who 104 00:07:38.519 --> 00:07:45.629 are listening, me and Pete were tight and the amazing spider man for me 105 00:07:45.870 --> 00:07:50.189 feels very much like the amazing spider man comic book series, and so to 106 00:07:50.310 --> 00:07:59.939 follow that train of thoughts with with his father, maybe father. There's all 107 00:08:00.060 --> 00:08:03.819 sorts of stuff that comic brain was just like. I I'm so excited because 108 00:08:05.100 --> 00:08:07.620 what if it's the what if it's the robot clone? What if it's the 109 00:08:07.699 --> 00:08:13.490 Russian agent? Oh my God, there's so much and to know that by 110 00:08:13.569 --> 00:08:16.290 the time that that was kind of released that we weren't going to get a 111 00:08:16.370 --> 00:08:22.689 follow follow up or follow through of that storyline. I mean it's it's happens 112 00:08:22.889 --> 00:08:28.879 me. Yes, yeah, absolutely I was. I was a little random 113 00:08:28.959 --> 00:08:33.360 detour into the spider man universe. So welcome. Yeah, so what have 114 00:08:33.440 --> 00:08:37.200 you guys been watching? Well, I went back and watched Indiana Jones of 115 00:08:37.240 --> 00:08:41.669 the last crusade for the first time in a few years and really enjoyed it. 116 00:08:41.950 --> 00:08:48.389 And obviously I'm such such a fan of the Indiana Jones films and I've 117 00:08:48.429 --> 00:08:54.870 seen throughout the different Peris of lockdown. I've watched raiders and I've watched temple 118 00:08:54.950 --> 00:08:56.620 of doom, but I just got round to watching last crusade and I just 119 00:08:56.659 --> 00:09:03.779 had this real hankering for some comfort movies because that's what I've been needing at 120 00:09:03.820 --> 00:09:09.460 the moment. And Yeah, he's the very definition of a comfort movie, 121 00:09:09.779 --> 00:09:16.889 I think tonally it does. It does skew towards comedy more. It's still 122 00:09:16.889 --> 00:09:20.129 a cracking adventure. I think after Temple of doom it's a real kind of 123 00:09:20.210 --> 00:09:26.159 light palate cleanser and it feels a lot more in spirit to the first fell. 124 00:09:26.559 --> 00:09:31.919 I really enjoy temple of doom, but it's it's got some it's got 125 00:09:31.000 --> 00:09:37.909 some harsh stuff in there and and you know the the chemistry between Harrison Ford 126 00:09:37.990 --> 00:09:45.669 John Connery is brilliant. Sean Connery as Henry Joes Seniar is is just brilliant. 127 00:09:46.950 --> 00:09:48.990 And it's yeah, it's a it's a really great view and I still 128 00:09:50.110 --> 00:09:54.860 found myself smiling and laughing along at the right parts and marveling at that fantastic 129 00:09:54.940 --> 00:10:01.259 tankature tank and horse chase. It's yeah, it's just a it's a great 130 00:10:01.259 --> 00:10:07.570 series of three films. It's a shame that is taken them till now to 131 00:10:07.690 --> 00:10:18.049 make a fourth, but I'm given, given the casting of the next Indiana 132 00:10:18.090 --> 00:10:20.409 Jones film, in the fact that James mangolds making it, I am cautiously 133 00:10:20.480 --> 00:10:26.639 excited for it. So phoebe water bridge and Matt Michaelson joining the cast, 134 00:10:26.759 --> 00:10:33.240 which is that's a good trio of actors. So I'm interested to see where 135 00:10:33.240 --> 00:10:39.509 they go with that one. No fridges, no gophers, please, markably 136 00:10:39.509 --> 00:10:43.990 Lessler BEF and I think we'll be. Think we'll be golden. I have 137 00:10:45.110 --> 00:10:48.950 not been watching anything. I okay, in a good but I know and 138 00:10:50.019 --> 00:10:52.940 it's kind of it's kind of a weird thing to say, because I might 139 00:10:52.220 --> 00:10:56.580 I so love relishing having the time to do it, but I'm very excited 140 00:10:56.779 --> 00:11:03.370 to be part of a project that may be in people's homes at some point 141 00:11:03.730 --> 00:11:09.690 over the summer. So that's all very exciting. So I am I'm still 142 00:11:09.730 --> 00:11:13.330 invested and I still love you all out there and hopefully I'll get to meet 143 00:11:13.370 --> 00:11:16.009 some of you soon. Would be pretty cool. Just the idea. I'm 144 00:11:16.090 --> 00:11:20.600 saying this now so

in case someone out there during the show goes, wait 145 00:11:20.639 --> 00:11:26.840 a minute, do you do a podcast? Yes, it's me. Hello. 146 00:11:28.039 --> 00:11:31.240 Yes, he will be the Bard in your yard. I will be 147 00:11:31.399 --> 00:11:35.710 the Bard in your yarn. Bad Boys. Excellent all. Good luck with 148 00:11:35.750 --> 00:11:39.429 that, Chris. I'm really really looking forward to being able to see it. 149 00:11:39.509 --> 00:11:43.669 And Yeah, I's as you say. That may mean that Chris becomes 150 00:11:45.149 --> 00:11:46.820 scarce from time to time, but you know, we wish you well and 151 00:11:48.740 --> 00:11:52.259 yeah, we'll look forward to hearing more about your adventures. And you have 152 00:11:52.379 --> 00:11:54.700 watched something recently, because we're going to be. We're going to be reviewing 153 00:11:54.740 --> 00:11:58.860 that in a little while. Craig, is there anything else you've been watching 154 00:11:58.220 --> 00:12:03.889 of like? Well, I've just been listening to a couple of pot movie 155 00:12:03.970 --> 00:12:07.690 podcasts and seeing what rabbit hole that takes me down to. At the minute 156 00:12:07.690 --> 00:12:13.169 I've been listening to the horror movie podcast and they every sort of Halloween. 157 00:12:13.289 --> 00:12:16.320 They do sort of a list kind of podcast, and that led me to 158 00:12:16.559 --> 00:12:22.720 watch the faculty, which I haven't seen in a long time, and it 159 00:12:22.000 --> 00:12:26.600 was it gave me all the the feeling that I had when I watched it 160 00:12:26.960 --> 00:12:31.950 when I was at university or when we were at university. And Yeah, 161 00:12:33.149 --> 00:12:37.269 it kind of makes me think Josh Hartnett, you know what, where did 162 00:12:37.309 --> 00:12:41.629 he go? You know, and he was so good in it and it's 163 00:12:41.669 --> 00:12:45.419 still stands up. You know. The CGIS, yeah, not great, 164 00:12:45.460 --> 00:12:48.500 but then I remember thinking that around the time. But it kind of led 165 00:12:48.700 --> 00:12:52.899 lends itself to the charm. So I've now like given myself a list of 166 00:12:52.980 --> 00:12:56.460 about five or six, not true slasher horror movie films, but, you 167 00:12:56.539 --> 00:13:01.289 know, films I want to revisit or want to watch for the first time. 168 00:13:01.529 --> 00:13:03.809 So the faculty is the first one of those. So, Oh, 169 00:13:03.889 --> 00:13:07.690 can I just do a shatter? You mentioned in mentioning Podcast, and this 170 00:13:07.809 --> 00:13:09.769 is okay. This is I mentioned is horror movie podcast as a great podcast. 171 00:13:09.850 --> 00:13:15.039 I listen to called horror movie maniacs and each week, or each month 172 00:13:15.200 --> 00:13:18.120 rather, whenever they put them up, they they discussed. They basically kind 173 00:13:18.120 --> 00:13:22.559 of deconstruct horror classics and there's great clips in it and it just goes through. 174 00:13:22.600 --> 00:13:26.559 It's so slightly done. But I like listening to it because I'm horror. 175 00:13:26.559 --> 00:13:28.669 I would probably say it is probably my least favorite genre, but listening 176 00:13:28.750 --> 00:13:31.309 to these guys are enthusiasm for it, when they talk about it, stuff 177 00:13:31.309 --> 00:13:35.549 I've seen before, stuff I haven't seen yet, it always makes you want 178 00:13:35.549 --> 00:13:39.190 to go back and revisit the film they've talked about, like it follows America, 179 00:13:39.230 --> 00:13:43.740 Werewolf in London. The thing is absolutely traffic jaws, which is great 180 00:13:43.779 --> 00:13:46.220 as well, which is, you know, I've always thought it's just as 181 00:13:46.220 --> 00:13:48.220 a horror movie. I suppose it kind of is, isn't it? Of 182 00:13:48.259 --> 00:13:52.340 course, and it's about a shark, even though everyone's always kind of like, 183 00:13:52.500 --> 00:13:54.820 you know, it's not about a shark, it's about it's so it's 184 00:13:54.860 --> 00:13:56.970 a political you know, and all that kind of stuff. But yeah, 185 00:13:58.009 --> 00:14:01.169 so I'd recommend that too. But yeah, horror not being my favorite genre 186 00:14:01.250 --> 00:14:03.490 actually brings me on to something I just want to talk about if I can 187 00:14:03.570 --> 00:14:05.370 quickly. I wanted to get a separated a little bit about like some of 188 00:14:05.409 --> 00:14:09.799 the classics, is I film I saw recently was Brandon Cronenberg's possessor. Okay, 189 00:14:11.120 --> 00:14:15.120 and Andrew Riyes, Bra Christrabbert, Jennathan Day, Jason Lee. It 190 00:14:15.440 --> 00:14:18.919 is a tough watch, but it is so the ideas in it are so 191 00:14:20.080 --> 00:14:22.360 great. It's essentially about an agent who played by Andrew Risberr, and she 192 00:14:22.399 --> 00:14:28.350 works for a secretive organization that uses brain implant technology to basically inhabit other people's 193 00:14:28.389 --> 00:14:33.830 bodies, and the People's bodies that they inhabit they kind of like they try 194 00:14:33.830 --> 00:14:37.389 to drive them to commit assassinations, and it's really that kind of like your 195 00:14:37.470 --> 00:14:41.940 mind is a very kind of like you know, it's a very fluid thing 196 00:14:41.139 --> 00:14:43.940 that can be manipulated and can you believe your eyes? And it reminded me 197 00:14:45.019 --> 00:14:48.620 a lot of strange days. Remember Catherine Biglow, strange days from yeah, 198 00:14:48.659 --> 00:14:50.899 one thousand nine hundred and ninety nine, which is a hugely underrated film in 199 00:14:50.980 --> 00:14:54.250 my opinion, but I think way ahead of its time. Yeah, absolutely 200 00:14:54.250 --> 00:14:58.649 brilliant, which is worth revisiting again. Not An easy watch, but yeah, 201 00:14:58.690 --> 00:15:00.889 big shout out for possessor, which is available that you can rent it 202 00:15:00.929 -->

00:15:03.289 from Amazon. I think is actually available on blue right now as well. 203 00:15:03.529 --> 00:15:05.210 But as far as Brandon Kronenberg goes, when it comes like body horror, 204 00:15:05.210 --> 00:15:09.039 a bit like his Dad David. It's that kind of thing where he knows 205 00:15:09.200 --> 00:15:11.720 what gets your win seeing, he knows what get you know it's all justified, 206 00:15:11.919 --> 00:15:18.320 but it is exceptionally brutal. It is exceptionally graphic and you know, 207 00:15:18.440 --> 00:15:20.629 I don't usually go in for that kind of stuff, but because of the 208 00:15:20.710 --> 00:15:24.389 kind of sci fi element to it, I was really drawn into it. 209 00:15:24.470 --> 00:15:26.669 So it was a really kind of what I'd say it is, I'd say, 210 00:15:26.789 --> 00:15:28.110 more of an experience than a watch. I wouldn't say I enjoyed it, 211 00:15:28.230 --> 00:15:31.669 but I would say that I appreciated it immensely. So I would hardly 212 00:15:31.750 --> 00:15:35.980 recommend possessor, or possessor UN cut as it's known, but if you're a 213 00:15:35.980 --> 00:15:39.100 little bit kind of like Shakiers to that kind of stuff, check out the 214 00:15:39.139 --> 00:15:43.539 BBSC website, look at the classification information and it will kind of tell you 215 00:15:43.659 --> 00:15:48.779 what kind of stuff in it and if you without really spoiling the plot, 216 00:15:50.490 --> 00:15:52.370 and if you still want to watch it after that and I'd hardly recommend it, 217 00:15:52.450 --> 00:15:56.169 but I say it's probably the uneasy watch that I was kind of like, 218 00:15:56.570 --> 00:16:00.649 not really looking for but really enjoyed. Ultimately, fantastic. Yeah, 219 00:16:00.690 --> 00:16:04.039 it's a film that I'd seen coming out in the trail. Looks really interesting. 220 00:16:04.960 --> 00:16:08.320 It's that, but a whole sort of body horror and uncousableness. There's 221 00:16:08.320 --> 00:16:11.639 kind of holding me back a little bit because sometimes you have to be you 222 00:16:11.799 --> 00:16:15.559 have to be really in the mood for something like that. Yeah, it's 223 00:16:15.600 --> 00:16:18.200 all that. It takes ultra violence to a new level and there are many 224 00:16:18.200 --> 00:16:21.029 times where you go all you didn't need to see that. You didn't need 225 00:16:21.070 --> 00:16:26.190 to see that. Excellent. Before we move on to the reviews, I'm 226 00:16:26.230 --> 00:16:30.350 going to give a shout out to a podcast I've just been checking out as 227 00:16:30.429 --> 00:16:33.179 well. So this is one that was recommended to me by friend of the 228 00:16:33.220 --> 00:16:38.100 show and also fellow podcast emperm, the verbal Diorama podcast. It's the rewind 229 00:16:38.340 --> 00:16:45.340 movie podcast. It's four chaps that basically do a deep dive into a film 230 00:16:45.659 --> 00:16:48.289 each episode. Episodes are about a hour a half, two hours long, 231 00:16:48.610 --> 00:16:53.330 but it's absolutely fascinating stuff and probably no surprise the episodes that kind of drew 232 00:16:53.370 --> 00:16:56.970 me into have a listen to were alien and aliens. I'm going to do 233 00:16:57.009 --> 00:17:00.129 a bit of a deep dive into the rest of the episodes. But the 234 00:17:00.480 --> 00:17:07.599 knowledge of the four guys and the the the enthusiasm, you know, within 235 00:17:07.680 --> 00:17:11.279 them for the films they you know, they all love the two films they 236 00:17:11.359 --> 00:17:14.160 discussed, the the ones that I listened but they were all very fair and 237 00:17:14.200 --> 00:17:17.750 very balanced, you know, they pick their faults and the floors and all 238 00:17:17.789 --> 00:17:22.670 the stuff that absolutely loved. But they they're all really knowledgeable and really greater 239 00:17:22.789 --> 00:17:26.309 kind of talk about the structure and and the foreshadowing and at everything to do 240 00:17:26.430 --> 00:17:30.940 with it, with the film's and yeah, no, that it was. 241 00:17:30.059 --> 00:17:33.460 It was really, really fascinating stuff. So I'd recommend checking them out as 242 00:17:33.500 --> 00:17:37.500 well. They're great. So that's the rewind movie podcast. So, without 243 00:17:37.619 --> 00:17:41.940 further ado, I think it's time to start hitting up some reviews. What 244 00:17:42.019 --> 00:17:47.250 do you reckon, Jence? Count me could fantastic years. So the first 245 00:17:47.250 --> 00:17:51.730 of our reviews this this week is at one of her the Oscar nominations from 246 00:17:52.089 --> 00:17:56.890 last week. So yes, it we're a week removed from the Oscars and 247 00:17:56.250 --> 00:18:00.319 I'm sure I will have a little chest about those later on before we get 248 00:18:00.319 --> 00:18:03.839 to the pitch battle. But yeah, the love and monsters. It was 249 00:18:03.000 --> 00:18:10.079 nominated for a Best Visual Effects Academy Award and it's been recently released on Netflix, 250 00:18:10.200 --> 00:18:15.589 a direct spot Michael Mathews and starring Dilan O'Brien, Jessica Henwick Michael Rooker, 251 00:18:15.509 --> 00:18:18.829 and the story is that, seven years after a monster apocalypse, Joel 252 00:18:18.829 --> 00:18:22.029 Dawson, along with the rest of humanity, I've been living underground ever since 253 00:18:22.230 --> 00:18:27.140 giant creatures took control of the land. After reconnecting over radio with this high 254 00:18:27.140 --> 00:18:32.180 school girlfriend amy, who is now eighteen miles away to coastal colony, Joel 255 00:18:32.220 --> 00:18:36.460 begins to fall for again. Joel realizes there's nothing left for him underground. 256 00:18:36.460 --> 00:18:38.660 He decides, against all logic, to venture out to find a me, 257 00:18:38.940 --> 00:18:44.890 despite all the dangerous monsters that stand in his way, so me and care 258 00:18:44.970 --> 00:18:48.650 for both seeing

this and Kev, what a treat this was. Wasn't that 259 00:18:48.930 --> 00:18:52.490 it was? I wasn't expecting much from it at all and in fact I 260 00:18:52.569 --> 00:18:55.049 actually looked at Netflix and thought, Oh, it's another one of them. 261 00:18:55.049 --> 00:18:56.240 From the imagery and things, I didn't know much about it and looking at 262 00:18:56.279 --> 00:18:59.759 the image. I was like this is not for me, this isn't that 263 00:18:59.799 --> 00:19:02.119 kind of thing. That was actually I think you'd watched it, Scott First. 264 00:19:02.160 --> 00:19:03.039 Yes, I was actually, you know what, check this out. 265 00:19:03.119 --> 00:19:07.400 You did obviously mentioned the visual Effects Oscar as well, so I went in 266 00:19:07.519 --> 00:19:08.119 it in a kind of like okay, cool, what it's up for. 267 00:19:08.119 --> 00:19:11.269 I'm jogs trying to polish off as many Oscar films as I could. So 268 00:19:11.390 --> 00:19:15.029 I kind of went in probably about an hour after you did, and I 269 00:19:15.190 --> 00:19:18.390 was so glad I did. I thought I was really impressed by I thought 270 00:19:18.390 --> 00:19:19.990 it was witty, I thought it was funny, I thought the creatures were 271 00:19:21.029 --> 00:19:26.140 imaginative, I thought the relationship element was kind of Nice and there was a 272 00:19:26.140 --> 00:19:30.099 nice resolution to it that's not your stereotypical resolution, and I thought that the 273 00:19:30.299 --> 00:19:34.619 dog in it that I feared for the entire movie was absolutely brilliant and nearly 274 00:19:34.700 --> 00:19:40.130 stole the show. Yeah, Oh boy, that, I have to say, 275 00:19:40.329 --> 00:19:42.369 one of boy, the best dog in a film since the artist, 276 00:19:42.529 --> 00:19:45.809 I think, and should have been nominated himself had there have been an academy 277 00:19:45.849 --> 00:19:48.730 awards ceremony in the traditional sense. I'm pretty sure he would have come on 278 00:19:48.890 --> 00:19:53.279 and done a little dance. Now have to say one of the things I've 279 00:19:53.359 --> 00:19:57.640 picked out, and it's no disservice to Jessica Henwick, who was really good 280 00:19:57.640 --> 00:20:02.599 as a me and it was the relationship to in her and Joel was quite 281 00:20:02.640 --> 00:20:07.269 sweet. But yeah, thanks to their extended screen time together, the chemistry 282 00:20:07.910 --> 00:20:11.470 between Joel and boy, so dylan and Dylan, O bride and boy, 283 00:20:11.829 --> 00:20:18.589 was just fantastic and I was more invested in that love story than that anything 284 00:20:18.630 --> 00:20:22.339 else in the film. I just thought it was it was absolutely lovely and 285 00:20:22.380 --> 00:20:26.059 it really gave the film heart and resonance. It's not just that the gave 286 00:20:26.339 --> 00:20:29.420 the film heart. I think I'd you know, I agree with you. 287 00:20:29.660 --> 00:20:34.019 It had so great here. It was really witty in the first sort of 288 00:20:34.420 --> 00:20:37.930 five ten minutes. You know, the style of it, the voice over. 289 00:20:38.690 --> 00:20:42.809 Didn't know briant's performance. Yeah, all of it was was really kind 290 00:20:42.849 --> 00:20:49.720 of engaging and I and quick and amusing that it just it just hooked me 291 00:20:49.759 --> 00:20:52.519 straight away. It's like, you know what I think I'm going to do 292 00:20:52.599 --> 00:20:59.160 all right here. It's the perfect example of wandering into something with zero expectations 293 00:20:59.240 --> 00:21:04.190 and just having that pleasant surprise sprung on you. Real kind of feel good 294 00:21:04.230 --> 00:21:11.309 adventure. And Yeah, I thought it. I thought it was really fun. 295 00:21:11.509 --> 00:21:14.589 Like you said, Kev, I thought the creature design was was great. 296 00:21:15.109 --> 00:21:21.220 I thought it gave it gave a tangible threat to the monsters. But 297 00:21:21.380 --> 00:21:25.579 it became quickly apparent that the audience that they were going for, that this 298 00:21:25.819 --> 00:21:30.099 is this is an adventure movie. It's there. You know you're going to 299 00:21:30.140 --> 00:21:33.970 have tense moments and you're going to have you're going to have moments as kind 300 00:21:33.970 --> 00:21:41.089 of like Oh moments likes some of the creatures are pretty gross. You're also 301 00:21:41.130 --> 00:21:44.130 going to have lots of lots of really heartwarming moments as well. So it's 302 00:21:44.450 --> 00:21:48.759 it's a real family adventure. I think that's that's great. Yeah, I 303 00:21:48.799 --> 00:21:49.920 think it's family adventure with an edge. But I think that's the thing that 304 00:21:49.960 --> 00:21:52.440 would have initially turned me off was the fact that it looks like a peg 305 00:21:52.599 --> 00:21:56.279 family kind of movie, which isn't necessarily a bad thing. It just wasn't 306 00:21:56.319 --> 00:21:57.880 what I was in the move for. But idea of upon research, got 307 00:21:57.960 --> 00:22:00.990 twelve, a PG thirteen state side. I watched it and there were some 308 00:22:02.069 --> 00:22:04.589 parts in it where it kind of likes very cleverly walks that tight rope between 309 00:22:04.630 --> 00:22:08.470 family and something a little bit edgier. But yeah, he's wit really makes 310 00:22:08.549 --> 00:22:11.990 it that kind of like made it that you know, that that little bit 311 00:22:11.069 --> 00:22:14.589 better. And I think really, to be fair, I mean it would 312 00:22:14.589 --> 00:22:17.660 have been a see this would have had cinematic released lightly. It would have 313 00:22:17.660 --> 00:22:19.539 been quite good to have seen to have seen it on the script on the 314 00:22:19.539 --> 00:22:23.180 big screen, but I maybe I wouldn't have made the effort to go and 315 00:22:23.299 --> 00:22:26.259 see it on the big screen. Reviews aside, maybe I would have seen 316

00:22:26.299 --> 00:22:30.289 some reviews in here say on it. But I'm glad I did. It 317 00:22:30.369 --> 00:22:32.289 was great. I could just go, okay, let's try on, which 318 00:22:32.289 --> 00:22:34.329 might be an argument for this type of stuff going to streaming anyway, because 319 00:22:34.369 --> 00:22:37.890 it's accessible for someone that might not ordinarily go make the extra face it. 320 00:22:38.170 --> 00:22:42.849 Yeah, absolutely, I mean I recommend it to anybody that needs just a 321 00:22:42.970 --> 00:22:48.759 really good, feel good evenings entertainment. Just not disengage your brain, because 322 00:22:48.799 --> 00:22:53.000 it does, it does occupie Nice even just go in and have a good 323 00:22:53.079 --> 00:22:56.880 time, just to pick up something else to do with it. With kind 324 00:22:56.880 --> 00:23:00.950 of that heart of the film and and kind of how lovely it was at 325 00:23:00.029 --> 00:23:08.269 times. Is Michael Rooker not playing the villain for once, his Clyde and 326 00:23:08.390 --> 00:23:15.940 Ariana green black as his his sort of Ward Minnow their interactions together and with 327 00:23:15.980 --> 00:23:22.140 Dylan so through through the wilderness I thought was really sweet as well and I 328 00:23:22.259 --> 00:23:26.849 thought that helped anchor the film as well. So it's not just the kind 329 00:23:26.849 --> 00:23:30.690 of central love story. There's lots of things going on really really nice, 330 00:23:30.730 --> 00:23:36.289 heartwarming stuff. So yeah, it's so that's love and monsters and that's on 331 00:23:36.569 --> 00:23:38.730 Netflix now. So the next of our films is going to be reviewed by 332 00:23:38.730 --> 00:23:47.240 myself and Mr Commander and it's another netflix production. It's Joe Penner's stowaway. 333 00:23:47.759 --> 00:23:51.160 So this was released in the last couple of weeks and has got, you 334 00:23:51.240 --> 00:23:55.829 know, really, really great. It's a forehander cast, but Anna Kendrick, 335 00:23:56.029 --> 00:24:00.589 don't you, Dake Kim Shamir Anderson and the brilliant, peerless Tony Colette, 336 00:24:00.990 --> 00:24:04.509 and the basic story is it's a three person crew there on a two 337 00:24:04.509 --> 00:24:11.579 year mission to Mars. They end up running against an impossible choice when they 338 00:24:11.619 --> 00:24:17.099 find an unplanned passenger on the trip who's been injured during the launch and as 339 00:24:17.140 --> 00:24:21.700 essentially accidentally stowed away on the mission. And Chris, how did you find 340 00:24:21.740 --> 00:24:26.369 stow away? Um, yeah, for a film that has a running time 341 00:24:26.490 --> 00:24:30.410 of, I don't know, just over a hundred minutes or so. Yeah, 342 00:24:30.730 --> 00:24:33.450 I had to admit it felt like a really slow burn. It felt 343 00:24:33.490 --> 00:24:40.799 much longer than it was. Yeah, and I think they're in sort of 344 00:24:40.920 --> 00:24:45.680 lines

of the problem. I think that this film suffers from pacing. And 345 00:24:45.160 --> 00:24:49.119 Yeah, not that there's anything bad about that, because I one of the 346 00:24:49.200 --> 00:24:53.109 reasons that drew me to this is because I just love space. I love 347 00:24:53.190 --> 00:24:57.390 the space so much so I watch anything with space in it. And there's 348 00:24:57.390 --> 00:25:02.630 a few things about this. Coming out of the film, I realized I 349 00:25:02.710 --> 00:25:08.140 enjoyed it more than I did while I was watching it. But the when 350 00:25:08.180 --> 00:25:12.700 you take the individual parts of the film apart, I I just found that 351 00:25:12.940 --> 00:25:18.660 the script was nothing really spectacular. It did its job. There are a 352 00:25:18.740 --> 00:25:26.009 few instances of exposition that repeated themselves within minutes of already telling the audience what 353 00:25:26.130 --> 00:25:29.529 they were, and it felt like the writers were sort of like remember, 354 00:25:29.529 --> 00:25:33.009 were in space, there's a space thing you have to remember, so we're 355 00:25:33.009 --> 00:25:36.200 going to tell you twice. All in all, what's kind of interesting about 356 00:25:36.200 --> 00:25:40.680 it is I found all of the characters themselves to be fairly onedimensional they had 357 00:25:41.079 --> 00:25:47.319 their quirks, they had their passions and that they fit into those stereotypes. 358 00:25:47.359 --> 00:25:52.670 Yeah, but I didn't really find that there was a weak link amongst the 359 00:25:52.829 --> 00:25:56.150 cast. They all played their parts very well. I believed all of them. 360 00:25:57.910 --> 00:26:04.380 I felt Shamir Anderson's performance was a little underwhelming with the situation his character 361 00:26:04.539 --> 00:26:10.980 was in. Without giving too much away, I felt that there was more 362 00:26:11.220 --> 00:26:15.299 to be done with that and I felt kind of like that as a umbrella 363 00:26:15.420 --> 00:26:18.890 of the film. That because I felt like the film in itself the premise 364 00:26:18.970 --> 00:26:22.809 it could have been. It could have gone over the top and been a 365 00:26:22.890 --> 00:26:25.970 crazy action for it could have been like a life. You know, for 366 00:26:26.049 --> 00:26:30.450 those of you who watched life, which I'm not a not a huge fan, 367 00:26:30.569 --> 00:26:34.160 I found it quite derivative. Yeah, I mean, but but an 368 00:26:34.200 --> 00:26:41.720 action film in space that was taking science fact and making science fiction out of 369 00:26:41.759 --> 00:26:44.960 it, and that's sort of there's a blurring of the lines, especially with 370 00:26:45.079 --> 00:26:49.829 stuff nowadays. Of you go into this film and You understand the rules of 371 00:26:49.950 --> 00:26:55.230 the film and if they are so grounded in what science fact is, sometimes 372 00:26:55.309 --> 00:26:57.670 think that can get distracting from the world because you go, Oh wait, 373 00:26:57.789 --> 00:27:02.900 but if gravity affects you at the bottom. How does it affect you? 374 00:27:03.660 --> 00:27:07.059 And then I get sort of caught up in real science and I realized that 375 00:27:07.380 --> 00:27:10.980 the laws that are laid out in the film should be the ones that an 376 00:27:11.019 --> 00:27:15.450 audience pays attention to. Don't take other stuff and push push it onto the 377 00:27:15.490 --> 00:27:19.009 film, unless the film is very much like this is a science fact film, 378 00:27:19.130 --> 00:27:22.609 and I don't necessarily think that this was. They had elements of you 379 00:27:22.690 --> 00:27:29.329 know, I mean a trip to Mars is, quote unquote, not too 380 00:27:29.450 --> 00:27:33.079 far away in our distant, distant future. So this felt like a fairly 381 00:27:33.240 --> 00:27:37.240 close film. Yeah, but it also could have been on the opposite side 382 00:27:37.240 --> 00:27:41.559 of that. It could have been a really incredible indepth look at the psychology 383 00:27:41.640 --> 00:27:48.269 of space travel and the trials and trepidations that that come with that and the 384 00:27:48.349 --> 00:27:52.109 fact that there's nothing else and we're on our own and what happens when something 385 00:27:52.230 --> 00:27:56.430 disrupts the status quote. What's more important? Human life or mankind's furtherment? 386 00:27:56.950 --> 00:28:03.099 Yeah, and I just felt like the film tight roped where it could have 387 00:28:03.380 --> 00:28:08.819 gone further. Yeah, I think good sci fi is less about kind of 388 00:28:08.819 --> 00:28:15.650 the expedition in the technology but more about that exploration of humanity in extreme circumstances, 389 00:28:15.930 --> 00:28:22.170 and that's you see a lot of those where that's that's really the heart 390 00:28:22.210 --> 00:28:26.160 of it, that the the space travel and the science fiction elements of it 391 00:28:26.240 --> 00:28:30.000 are a means to an end, and so this this goes somewhere. I'm 392 00:28:30.000 --> 00:28:34.000 in. The intent is really good. That is it's is that morality of 393 00:28:34.119 --> 00:28:40.920 it and and that difficult decision. But the way it plays out, I 394 00:28:41.039 --> 00:28:45.990 mean, I enjoyed it. I felt it was it was engaging enough to 395 00:28:47.190 --> 00:28:52.230 just just let wash over me enjoy the performances. As we've said, the 396 00:28:52.269 --> 00:29:00.619 talent on displace fantastic, but it does just lack that little something just to 397 00:29:00.779 --> 00:29:04.900 turn it into something special. It was just I just found it to be 398 00:29:06.420 --> 00:29:07.859 good. It was a it was a it was a good film. It 399 00:29:08.059 --> 00:29:15.970 was it was worth watching. They I don't think they went into the it 400 00:29:15.049 --> 00:29:18.450 could have, as you said, it could have been a risk of being 401 00:29:18.569 -->

00:29:23.839 something a lot crazier. Given the circumstances. I was kind of half expecting 402 00:29:23.880 --> 00:29:30.880 a doctor Smith lost in space switter at some point. Yeah, because I 403 00:29:30.960 --> 00:29:33.279 felt like where's the where's the conflict? And when the conflict comes in you 404 00:29:33.359 --> 00:29:37.720 go okay, that's that's a real world conflict one, yeah, but UNQUITE 405 00:29:37.759 --> 00:29:41.109 real world conflict, and I felt like that. Then he didn't go the 406 00:29:41.150 --> 00:29:45.910 psychological aspect, which they should have. Yeah, and I think it became 407 00:29:45.109 --> 00:29:51.230 it became almost like a problem solving thing, that that's that's what they were 408 00:29:51.710 --> 00:29:53.099 they were there to do, and I think a line's share of it he's 409 00:29:53.180 --> 00:30:02.619 taken up with with one pretty pretty good, pretttense set piece. So it's 410 00:30:02.660 --> 00:30:08.529 it is. It's an interesting premise that just doesn't quite it could have been 411 00:30:08.730 --> 00:30:15.849 really, really thrilling to see that, that that moral dilemma in space and 412 00:30:15.210 --> 00:30:19.009 and having that sort of play out. It could have been quite it could 413 00:30:19.009 --> 00:30:25.160 have been more emotional than it was, although there are moments of emotion and 414 00:30:26.799 --> 00:30:33.480 moments of drama and that moral internal moral conflicts. But what you're dealing with 415 00:30:33.839 --> 00:30:42.230 is three essentially good people that are also scientists that you know they have to 416 00:30:42.829 --> 00:30:48.069 they have to kind of consider the greater good. Yeah, greater good, 417 00:30:49.539 --> 00:30:55.980 glad you did it. But so, yeah, so it's so when you've 418 00:30:56.019 --> 00:31:00.579 got three, four inherently good people, I think they play a play blinder 419 00:31:00.660 --> 00:31:07.809 with the with the stoleway in the fact that they make him really likable as 420 00:31:07.890 --> 00:31:11.009 well, so you can understand their dilemma. And these these are people, 421 00:31:11.170 --> 00:31:15.569 yeah, with with a conscience, and so it's interesting to see, but 422 00:31:15.769 --> 00:31:22.440 maybe not not as dark or as exciting as you're you're expecting. It's just 423 00:31:23.640 --> 00:31:30.079 interesting to watch the moral dilemma play out and see good actors wrestling with it. 424 00:31:30.640 --> 00:31:33.630 Yeah, I mean. That being said, we like to we like 425 00:31:33.750 --> 00:31:37.470 to sandwich bad things with good things, as you do in a good argument. 426 00:31:37.670 --> 00:31:41.029 But absolutely one of the there are a few really lovely things about this 427 00:31:41.190 --> 00:31:45.150 film. First of all, I'm one. I'm not saying I didn't enjoy 428 00:31:45.150 --> 00:31:47.779 it. I did enjoy it. Ye, just ultimately think that I probably 429 00:31:47.900 --> 00:31:52.700

won't rewatch it. It one of the things that we have. We've come 430 00:31:52.859 --> 00:31:57.819 really far in able to replicate what it's like to be in space on film. 431 00:31:59.220 --> 00:32:04.289 Yeah, and there were moments I genuinely couldn't tell what was CGI and 432 00:32:04.369 --> 00:32:07.809 what was practical and from a filmmaking perspective, was just like, Oh, 433 00:32:07.890 --> 00:32:10.730 that's just fun to watch. For me, the sets and costumes were glorious. 434 00:32:10.730 --> 00:32:15.240 It was all contained basically in this one spaceship. I did love the 435 00:32:15.240 --> 00:32:20.319 fact that we didn't get to hear ground control when she talks to ground control. 436 00:32:20.400 --> 00:32:22.160 We are isolated with those characters. Yeah, and I know that could 437 00:32:22.160 --> 00:32:27.799 probably be frustrating to some wash to some who watch it, but I just 438 00:32:27.920 --> 00:32:32.069 felt like, okay, we don't do any really external shots that feel like 439 00:32:32.309 --> 00:32:37.109 who are floating camera in space. It feels very much like you are, 440 00:32:37.309 --> 00:32:42.069 you are with these characters, which I which I appreciated. There are some 441 00:32:42.230 --> 00:32:45.339 there are some pretty shots in it as well. HMM. There there's a 442 00:32:45.420 --> 00:32:52.059 moment where they're going up to one of the solar panelly sections and there's The 443 00:32:52.140 --> 00:32:55.220 sun behind it and it's a very lovely looking shot. But I don't think 444 00:32:55.220 --> 00:32:59.970 it's meant to be a pretty film. It's not meant to be an interstellar 445 00:33:00.009 --> 00:33:06.450 it's not meant to shine these glorious glorifying space. Yeah, but the set 446 00:33:06.490 --> 00:33:09.529 of the I mean I love props and I love tangible things and I felt 447 00:33:09.529 --> 00:33:13.519 like I could inhabit that set. Yeah, felt like, okay, I 448 00:33:13.599 --> 00:33:16.559 know where the courts are, I know where the food is. It was 449 00:33:16.640 --> 00:33:21.119 nice of yeah, that sense of geography within the film was really nicely done 450 00:33:21.160 --> 00:33:28.509 and it managed to to to make it feel both claustrophobic but also give it 451 00:33:28.589 --> 00:33:32.269 enough space to kind of not feel like it was too oppressive. Yeah, 452 00:33:32.430 --> 00:33:36.990 and I enjoyed that because there were moments where obviously the characters are up and 453 00:33:37.029 --> 00:33:38.950 they're sitting and they're talking, and then you get into the like, oh, 454 00:33:38.990 --> 00:33:43.259 they go into another room and have to basically duck down and go through 455 00:33:43.579 --> 00:33:45.660 and you start to realize, like there's one moment in the film where they 456 00:33:45.660 --> 00:33:52.140 say, I still can't go to get over the fact that how little is 457 00:33:52.220 --> 00:33:54.579 between us and space. Yeah, and it kind of

does drive at home 458 00:33:54.660 --> 00:34:00.529 of going yeah, well, the elements are against you at this point. 459 00:34:00.690 --> 00:34:05.769 You are the aliens in space at the moment. Yeah, yeah, so 460 00:34:05.849 --> 00:34:07.329 I think I think we're both so pretty which an agreement with it. That 461 00:34:07.409 --> 00:34:13.159 it's that it's a noble film and it's got great intent. It doesn't necessarily 462 00:34:13.880 --> 00:34:16.360 go as far as you you'd maybe expect to want it to, but it's 463 00:34:16.480 --> 00:34:21.800 worth an evening's two hours if you've if you've got the time and you want 464 00:34:21.880 --> 00:34:23.869 a just a little bit of thoughtful sci Fi. Yeah, if you want 465 00:34:23.909 --> 00:34:28.269 if you want some space, if you want some space, and there's a 466 00:34:28.309 --> 00:34:31.829 lot of it. There's a lot of space and and you don't expect more 467 00:34:31.949 --> 00:34:37.750 than than basically what it is on the tin. Yeah, Shend then it's 468 00:34:37.789 --> 00:34:39.699 a lovely film. Should the Tagland have been in space? No one can 469 00:34:39.739 --> 00:34:45.139 hear you. I can hear you. Yeah, they flew too far away 470 00:34:45.179 --> 00:34:50.820 from the Sun. Myth. Thanks. So right. So that's stay and 471 00:34:50.940 --> 00:34:53.050 that is on Netflix. Now, as I always say in the Intro, 472 00:34:53.250 --> 00:34:57.170 one of the things we like to do is try and find those films that 473 00:34:57.210 --> 00:34:59.969 are flying under the radar, and this is this is a little bit of 474 00:34:59.969 --> 00:35:02.650 a special one for us. So it's a film that both Kevin and Craig 475 00:35:02.730 --> 00:35:06.849 have seen. It's called wilderness. Craig John to tell us a bit more 476 00:35:06.889 --> 00:35:09.960 about wilderness? Absolutely. So, just to give you a little bit of 477 00:35:10.039 --> 00:35:14.400 the plot. Blowing out of the city like a whirlwind in a night, 478 00:35:14.440 --> 00:35:20.880 Alison John Fleet the sea riding blissful wave of new love. So essentially what 479 00:35:20.920 --> 00:35:27.750 we've got is we have a blossoming new romance between the two characters, John 480 00:35:28.070 --> 00:35:35.429 and Alice. John is a jazz musician and they go away for a weekend 481 00:35:35.670 --> 00:35:38.940 down to the coast, down to Cornwall and, like the Blob said, 482 00:35:38.940 --> 00:35:45.780 it's they're riding this kind of physicality the early stages of the relationship that you 483 00:35:45.900 --> 00:35:49.900 know, we can all kind of relate to. You know, those blissful 484 00:35:49.900 --> 00:35:54.210 moments where you you just focused on on one other person and nothing else. 485 00:35:54.449 --> 00:36:00.210 And then it's the introduction of other people, not many others, coming into 486 00:36:00.250 --> 00:36:07.639 their life over this weekend, and how that shifts and moves their relationship forwards 487 00:36:07.920 --> 00:36:13.360 or backwards. And and that there's ambiguity whether you know it's for the positive 488 00:36:13.440 --> 00:36:17.519 or for the negative. So so that's where we're at. It's it's a 489 00:36:17.670 --> 00:36:24.349 film that was made by was directed by Justin John Doherty, who I am 490 00:36:24.670 --> 00:36:29.269 lucky enough to call a friend, and was written by a friend of mine 491 00:36:29.750 --> 00:36:35.500 called Neil Fox, and it was made in conjunction with the foulmouth film school 492 00:36:35.500 --> 00:36:42.659 at the University and the it was crude quite extensively by the students from a 493 00:36:42.780 --> 00:36:46.570 studying down the film degree course down there at fournmouth. To me it felt 494 00:36:46.650 --> 00:36:52.329 like it was a play. It felt claustrophobic, it felt that you were 495 00:36:52.530 --> 00:36:59.090 in infringing or watching something that was so very personal for these people. You 496 00:36:59.170 --> 00:37:04.719 know, you get to see them in at there, so in their naked 497 00:37:04.760 --> 00:37:09.239 state, you know, at their most vulnerable, and then how they relationship 498 00:37:09.320 --> 00:37:15.949 deals with with new people coming in. I enjoyed this film immensely, but 499 00:37:16.030 --> 00:37:22.070 I understand that it won't be for everybody. It's a it holds the mirror 500 00:37:22.110 --> 00:37:27.630 up quite quite literally in in a couple of cases, in that the film 501 00:37:27.949 --> 00:37:32.179 to to what a relationship is. The two main actors, James Barnes and 502 00:37:32.420 --> 00:37:38.179 Catherine Davenport, are wonderful, absolutely wonderful, and they are all consumed by 503 00:37:38.380 --> 00:37:44.690 each other. But the first person that they meet is this this man, 504 00:37:45.090 --> 00:37:51.250 and he has a negativity towards James, to John, sorry, and he 505 00:37:52.329 --> 00:37:55.889 we think you assume it's because of race, because John is a black man, 506 00:37:55.929 --> 00:38:00.320 and it's that's the first thing where you go. There's something not right, 507 00:38:00.400 --> 00:38:06.039 there's something not not right with the relationship or with one aspect of the 508 00:38:06.159 --> 00:38:10.320 relationship, and it's each other's. Is How the conversation leads from there. 509 00:38:10.440 --> 00:38:14.630 And then a party that they go to Kev. You've seen it as well 510 00:38:14.670 --> 00:38:15.349 as at right. I have. Yeah, I mean, I think I 511 00:38:15.469 --> 00:38:19.110 did put it into context. I think the film set in the S S. 512 00:38:19.150 --> 00:38:21.429 Yes, it is. Yeah, so that's kind of like. So 513 00:38:21.750 --> 00:38:23.510 obviously, when you mentioned in race just then, it's important to remember that. 514 00:38:23.630 --> 00:38:28.860 I thought the film was wonderful. Like yourself, I I think it's 515 00:38:28.860 --> 00:38:30.539 because I was in the mood for it. I

watched it on a with 516 00:38:30.619 --> 00:38:35.019 a Nice Cup of coffee on a Sunday morning, which was absolutely, I 517 00:38:35.099 --> 00:38:37.340 think, the best time for it. You know, I sometimes talk about 518 00:38:37.340 --> 00:38:39.059 when you're in the right kind of mindset to watch a film, which was 519 00:38:39.099 --> 00:38:43.289 terrific, because the film was personal, it was intimate, and what it 520 00:38:43.369 --> 00:38:45.650 did is it played with something that I'm very kind of passionate about, and 521 00:38:45.769 --> 00:38:50.849 that's the kind of like this whole kind of thing about exploring relationships inside and 522 00:38:50.969 --> 00:38:53.289 out. There's been a few films like that recently, but I think this 523 00:38:53.449 --> 00:38:55.599 one seems to do it quite well, and it's important to think. I 524 00:38:55.639 --> 00:38:59.920 think this film was right in the film festivals since two thousand and seventeen. 525 00:39:00.239 --> 00:39:01.480 So a lot of the films that have been released this year a little bit 526 00:39:01.559 --> 00:39:07.840 like the my coming we've got another David John Washington one. What was the 527 00:39:07.119 --> 00:39:09.829 we reviewed it a couple of weeks ago. Malcolm and Marie? Yeah, 528 00:39:09.869 --> 00:39:13.309 Malcolm Mury, where you see a kind of like a relationship that's on the 529 00:39:13.349 --> 00:39:16.230 outside should be perfect, but you realize there's cracks in it and I think 530 00:39:16.230 --> 00:39:20.429 the thing is it's summed up very well by the tagline. So the Tagline 531 00:39:20.429 --> 00:39:23.190 to wilderness is John and Alice are in love, in love with the idea 532 00:39:23.380 --> 00:39:27.420 of John and Alice, and I think that's the thing sometimes is when you're 533 00:39:27.460 --> 00:39:30.500 with somebody, especially in the early kind of what we call a create as 534 00:39:30.539 --> 00:39:32.659 Craig mentioned, like the honeymoon period of a relationship, there are so many 535 00:39:32.739 --> 00:39:37.780 things that you want. You're playing a version of yourself, the person that 536 00:39:37.860 --> 00:39:39.570 you want to be, rather than the person you probably ultimately will be, 537 00:39:39.769 --> 00:39:44.050 you know will be should the relationship continue. And I think John and Alice 538 00:39:44.449 --> 00:39:46.570 come into each other in in a kind of like a very sort of, 539 00:39:46.809 --> 00:39:50.250 you know, intimate way. They kind of like, you know, they 540 00:39:50.329 --> 00:39:52.880 talk, they laugh at all these things, and then cracks begin to appear, 541 00:39:52.199 --> 00:39:55.920 particularly, as Craig said, like in social situations and interactions with people 542 00:39:57.000 --> 00:40:00.280 external to their relationship. The only kind of real element of conflict, will 543 00:40:00.280 --> 00:40:02.400 say, one of the real as a conflict that they had, which I 544 00:40:02.480 --> 00:40:07.119 thought was a very well executed scene, doesn't give anything away, is essentially 545 00:40:07.119 --> 00:40:09.190 they kind of fall asleep on a beach and the tide comes in, which 546 00:40:09.269 --> 00:40:12.949 means that they get trapped kind of on the beach for a period of time 547 00:40:12.989 --> 00:40:15.510 and the two of them have the kind of problem solved to try and get 548 00:40:15.550 --> 00:40:19.510 out, but they can't seem to get over the obstacle problem solving because they're 549 00:40:19.510 --> 00:40:21.900 just bickering the whole time. And there are some things in it that I 550 00:40:21.980 --> 00:40:24.780 thought were very well observed and I thought yet that's spot on. I've been 551 00:40:24.820 --> 00:40:28.260 in those situations, not trapped on a beach, but I've been in the 552 00:40:28.300 --> 00:40:31.659 situations where I'm kind of so wound up with the person that I'm with that 553 00:40:31.739 --> 00:40:36.050 I would rather bicker with them get that out of the way before we solve 554 00:40:36.170 --> 00:40:38.530 the problem that we're in. I thought the direction was assured. I thought 555 00:40:38.570 --> 00:40:43.210 the writing was very good, very intimate, very nice and yeah, I 556 00:40:43.369 --> 00:40:45.409 mean I can't recommend it enough really. And the good thing is I'm very 557 00:40:45.690 --> 00:40:49.929 glad that that I liked it, because I kind of knew I would. 558 00:40:49.929 --> 00:40:52.840 And and and I think it's because at the moment maybe on the right age 559 00:40:52.840 --> 00:40:55.480 for o they but I'm in the right mindset to watch films like this at 560 00:40:55.480 --> 00:40:58.840 the moment and I hoped it would be good and I'm very glad it was. 561 00:40:59.360 --> 00:41:04.630 And Craig I just would mentioned as well, obviously Neil who wrote it. 562 00:41:04.750 --> 00:41:07.789 He was obviously responsible for writing the short film that we made together at 563 00:41:07.789 --> 00:41:10.469 university. Was it was hit. Yes, so I like to think that 564 00:41:12.110 --> 00:41:14.829 we were we were there. So should ever they release a DVD, if 565 00:41:14.869 --> 00:41:16.309 this may be, you'll allow that. What that short film with the disc 566 00:41:16.349 --> 00:41:20.619 if we are nicely, who knows what? I know they won't. But 567 00:41:20.860 --> 00:41:27.420 say just a couple of other things as well. It's to me if it's 568 00:41:27.460 --> 00:41:30.340 out like like it was a love story, obviously if John and Alice, 569 00:41:30.539 --> 00:41:36.010 but of jazz as well, with the Oh yeah, is the soundtrack throughout 570 00:41:36.130 --> 00:41:40.929 the film, and that they're very opening scene and then like a love letter 571 00:41:42.050 --> 00:41:49.079 to Cornwall as well, because the vistas are absolutely beautiful, incredibly well shot 572 00:41:50.320 --> 00:41:58.039 and the main performances are

wonderful, and the supporting cast as well. The 573 00:41:59.440 --> 00:42:04.989 one thing about this was I found myself routing for one person or the other 574 00:42:05.110 --> 00:42:09.150 because one was being more unreasonable, because they felt wronged by a flippant comment 575 00:42:09.230 --> 00:42:14.150 that was made by somebody else or how much alcohol had been consumed by the 576 00:42:14.309 --> 00:42:21.579 other person, and that's I I was siding in an argument of these two 577 00:42:21.659 --> 00:42:23.820 people and that's how new I knew I was invested because I was like just 578 00:42:23.980 --> 00:42:29.460 being so unreasonable, or he's being ridiculous or he's making outland yeah claims, 579 00:42:29.780 --> 00:42:32.849 because I felt invested in their relationship for that short period of time. And 580 00:42:32.889 --> 00:42:36.690 it is a short period of time. It's a it's a new relationship. 581 00:42:36.769 --> 00:42:42.889 It's also a short film, I think eighty four minutes. So it's a 582 00:42:43.289 --> 00:42:45.920 lot happens and not a lot happens in in equal measure. And I realize 583 00:42:45.920 --> 00:42:51.039 that this film won't be for everybody, but but people that like a study 584 00:42:51.119 --> 00:42:54.239 of a relationship or those people that sit down and think about how that they 585 00:42:54.719 --> 00:42:59.309 they see themselves in films and so on, and how uncomfortable that can be 586 00:42:59.630 --> 00:43:02.070 will really get something from this. So so, yeah, it's this. 587 00:43:02.630 --> 00:43:05.909 This might have been like the the see if it's even the best or the 588 00:43:05.949 --> 00:43:07.989 worst first state film you can watch. I mean, I know we spoke 589 00:43:07.989 --> 00:43:10.150 about promising young woman recently being a bad first state film to what? But 590 00:43:10.309 --> 00:43:14.219 with this it kind of like I and after when I finished watching that, 591 00:43:14.219 --> 00:43:16.420 I spoke to my my fiance about some elements and stuff like that. But 592 00:43:16.539 --> 00:43:19.659 going back to the point, Craig was saying. There are points where you 593 00:43:19.699 --> 00:43:22.820 just like, Oh, you just need to say he is sorry. Just 594 00:43:22.900 --> 00:43:25.099 say sorry, reset go back and then it's all good. And then there's 595 00:43:25.139 --> 00:43:28.809 that thing as well you're kind of like, oh no, if I have 596 00:43:28.889 --> 00:43:31.849 I crossed the line this, this relationship is too young to know whether or 597 00:43:31.889 --> 00:43:35.650 not I've crossed the line. Have I just ended the relationship by doing what 598 00:43:35.690 --> 00:43:37.730 I just did? I don't know those kind of panics as well. You 599 00:43:37.849 --> 00:43:40.369 know all of those and it's so real when it's that. You know that 600 00:43:40.480 --> 00:43:43.599 that's saying. That was what I kind of liked about it. It made 601 00:43:43.599 --> 00:43:45.880 me think of situations I'd been in where maybe I'd had or my partner and 602 00:43:45.960 --> 00:43:50.000 had a little bit too much to drink and things crossed. But sometimes just 603 00:43:50.119 --> 00:43:53.360 those not being able to let things go or simple resolutions of things we look 604 00:43:53.400 --> 00:43:57.750 back with regret and go if only I had said sorry, or if only 605 00:43:57.750 --> 00:44:00.750 I done x y Zaid, then maybe would be a lot happier now. 606 00:44:00.909 --> 00:44:05.230 Or essentially, you know, in this this age of everybody getting their tender 607 00:44:05.309 --> 00:44:07.070 and everything, you get the kind of like answers to many questions that these 608 00:44:07.110 --> 00:44:12.260 characters are answering in their trip away. Very quickly. So maybe speed dating 609 00:44:12.300 --> 00:44:15.340 and everything like that. Nowadays, you know, you don't get those situations 610 00:44:15.460 --> 00:44:20.260 like they have in this film as frequently. But yeah, it was a 611 00:44:20.340 --> 00:44:23.260 great, you know, ninety minutes or so to spend with these, this 612 00:44:23.409 --> 00:44:25.889 couple, and yeah, hats off to it's a great film and should be 613 00:44:25.889 --> 00:44:30.010 seen by as many people as can access it. Fantastic. It sounds like 614 00:44:30.090 --> 00:44:35.570 like very raw and very well observed and obviously, knowing Neil and just in 615 00:44:36.050 --> 00:44:38.960 they've obviously played two things. That a n eggs and I just did is 616 00:44:39.360 --> 00:44:45.039 a huge jazz fun and with Neil living around the Cornwall area, using that 617 00:44:45.280 --> 00:44:49.800 the glorious landscape down there, it's you know, their influences are, it 618 00:44:49.880 --> 00:44:52.630 sounds like they're very sort of clearly, clearly marked within the films. That's 619 00:44:52.710 --> 00:44:57.230 that's great. Yeah, that's available on I think you can get it pretty 620 00:44:57.230 --> 00:45:00.989 much on the most platforms, but I watched it through Amazon. Fantastic. 621 00:45:00.070 --> 00:45:02.949 So yeah, give that a right now. So That's wilderness now, gentlemen, 622 00:45:04.630 --> 00:45:07.579 this is a film that myself, Craig and Kev have all seen and 623 00:45:07.780 --> 00:45:13.219 it's one I think we're already looking forward to talking about. So it's a 624 00:45:13.340 --> 00:45:15.659 for Mitchell's versus the machines. Just to give you a little bit of background 625 00:45:15.659 --> 00:45:21.690 on the other film. This was originally to be released last year but due 626 00:45:21.690 --> 00:45:28.929 to the pandemic, the release was curtailed and basically sold on to Netflix the 627 00:45:29.010 --> 00:45:31.130 time the original trailer was released, about twelve months ago. was going under 628 00:45:31.130 --> 00:45:37.400 their slightly less auspicious name of connected, which doesn't really tell you

much about 629 00:45:37.400 --> 00:45:43.159 the film at all. But having been sold to Netflix for a streaming release, 630 00:45:43.599 --> 00:45:46.880 the filmmakers were basically given the opportunity to give the film its original title 631 00:45:46.920 --> 00:45:52.030 back the Mitchell's versus the machines. So the story is it's a quick e 632 00:45:52.150 --> 00:45:58.750 a dysfunctional families road trip to take their eldest daughter, Katie, to college 633 00:45:59.150 --> 00:46:00.789 and all of a sudden, I find themselves in the middle of a robot 634 00:46:00.789 --> 00:46:07.619 uprising and suddenly become humanities, unlikeliest last hope. And now this is from 635 00:46:07.980 --> 00:46:15.099 the stable of the brilliant Lord and Miller, so we know the pedigree that 636 00:46:15.179 --> 00:46:19.849 we're going to be working with here. Everything from from the director of work 637 00:46:19.889 --> 00:46:23.610 with the Lego movie and with Twenty One and twenty two jump street, and 638 00:46:23.929 --> 00:46:30.610 their production credits are such as kind of into the spider verse. So the 639 00:46:30.730 --> 00:46:35.480 influence, I think it was already there to be already there to be seen 640 00:46:35.639 --> 00:46:39.320 and I think, I think it promised a lot. So did the film 641 00:46:39.440 --> 00:46:45.599 by the people that made the lego movie and one of the greatest animated movies 642 00:46:45.639 --> 00:46:46.949 of the last few years, spider man into the spider verse. Did it 643 00:46:47.150 --> 00:46:52.949 live up to expectations and also as well, to mention their debut animated film 644 00:46:52.070 --> 00:46:55.230 was clad with a chance of meat coals? Yes, of course, yes, 645 00:46:55.550 --> 00:46:58.710 so, I mean I know what you are even early doors they were. 646 00:46:58.909 --> 00:47:02.659 That's that's pedigree. And of course, from the from Sony Pictures Animation, 647 00:47:02.900 --> 00:47:08.820 who bought us the emoji movie. So that's just my point out that. 648 00:47:09.019 --> 00:47:12.300 Yeah, so, yeah, mix, a mixed bag. That's blow 649 00:47:12.300 --> 00:47:14.300 why went out of the water. There were are saying that it's like, 650 00:47:14.380 --> 00:47:17.130 you know, is there actually a mixed kind of contended to pixars crown at 651 00:47:17.130 --> 00:47:20.289 the moment? I said we're the closest people to it. For the people, 652 00:47:20.369 --> 00:47:22.369 obviously the Patty emoji movie. That's not going to be the case. 653 00:47:22.929 --> 00:47:28.289 But then are you only as strong as your last film? That's the question. 654 00:47:28.570 --> 00:47:31.039 Well then, if they are. Yeah, well, it's directed by 655 00:47:31.119 --> 00:47:36.119 Michael Randa, and I have to say, yes, it does live up 656 00:47:36.159 --> 00:47:40.280 to expectations very, very much. So, yeah, I have to say 657 00:47:40.280 --> 00:47:47.429 I found it absolutely delightful. I just what a film, something that I've 658 00:47:47.469 --> 00:47:52.190 been really looking forward to since the first trailer dropped. And Yeah, I 659 00:47:52.269 --> 00:47:59.500 mean it's bonkers, it's Hilarious, it's a really, really lovely, heartwarm 660 00:47:59.579 --> 00:48:07.900 and adventure and, you know, it's absolutely beautiful visual delight, so much 661 00:48:07.980 --> 00:48:12.929 like the the techniques that I use in into the spider verse, where you 662 00:48:13.530 --> 00:48:20.690 have a blending of traditional and CG animation styles and they cut down and loot 663 00:48:20.809 --> 00:48:24.650 those lovely little neat touch is kind of augmenting the the action. It just 664 00:48:24.849 --> 00:48:30.920 looks absolutely gorgeous. How did you find it, Jun's yeah, I thought 665 00:48:30.960 --> 00:48:34.280 that the thing about this film is right is it looks on the outskirt, 666 00:48:34.480 --> 00:48:36.480 on the outside of things. You look at it in there as there's any 667 00:48:36.519 --> 00:48:38.719 family comedy. It's animated. It's that kind of the you know, you 668 00:48:38.800 --> 00:48:43.269 sort of okay, well, these generally are usually turned out sort of ten 669 00:48:43.309 --> 00:48:45.750 a penny, or at least they were kind of like five ten years ago. 670 00:48:45.389 --> 00:48:47.590 So when this one come up, I was all I was back when 671 00:48:47.590 --> 00:48:52.469 it was downloaded, I was all connected, rather download connected. I was 672 00:48:52.550 --> 00:48:53.710 thinking to myself, okay, cool, where there's that. That will be 673 00:48:53.750 --> 00:48:57.460 coming out and that will be pretty pandemic. That will be the kind of 674 00:48:57.579 --> 00:49:00.340 film that kind of floats around the cinema, does well, good box office, 675 00:49:00.380 --> 00:49:02.420 maybe during the half term period, but probably won't have much to say. 676 00:49:02.699 --> 00:49:05.860 It's going to be a kind of a bit like the emoji movie, 677 00:49:05.900 --> 00:49:07.820 seing the cash is in on technology. And isn't it funny when you can't 678 00:49:07.820 --> 00:49:10.889 swipe your iphone left, all that kind of stuff. But what we actually 679 00:49:12.010 --> 00:49:15.409 got was a film that I thought was exceptional and the moment I found out 680 00:49:15.409 --> 00:49:16.329 it was from the Lord and Miller stable, I was like, okay, 681 00:49:16.449 --> 00:49:20.409 I'm going to give this the benefit of the doubt because I had dismissed spiderverse 682 00:49:20.530 --> 00:49:22.929 until I actually watched it, and again I was blown away by it. 683 00:49:23.090 --> 00:49:25.920 It's got an amazing voice cast. I say amazing voice cards. These guys 684 00:49:25.920 --> 00:49:29.280 are kind of like. You've got like Danny McBride, may a Rudolph. 685 00:49:29.280 --> 00:49:32.079 You've got Olivia Coleman who, in my opinion, nearly steals the film. 686 00:49:32.480 --> 00:49:37.559 She is

absolutely terrific. But yeah, visually that, the music, the 687 00:49:37.710 --> 00:49:43.909 sound, everything that. I would say this is probably the coolest animated movie 688 00:49:44.070 --> 00:49:47.389 that I've seen in recent years. And that's not necessary and that givate I 689 00:49:47.429 --> 00:49:50.190 could sometimes, you know, if you didn't have any start, you know, 690 00:49:50.309 --> 00:49:52.860 any substance, it was all style, then you'd say, okay, 691 00:49:52.900 --> 00:49:53.820 well, that's you know, it might look good, but at the end 692 00:49:53.820 --> 00:49:57.019 of the day you want a good story, you want good characters, but 693 00:49:57.139 --> 00:50:00.019 you get that as well. Now, I don't have any kids, all 694 00:50:00.059 --> 00:50:04.260 right, but my emotional investment in that father daughter relationship while they're on their 695 00:50:04.300 --> 00:50:07.289 road trip while also trying to, you know, stop the apocalypse happening. 696 00:50:07.329 --> 00:50:12.690 I was there. I was I was well en up, but without a 697 00:50:12.809 --> 00:50:16.369 doubt, my favorite sequence of the film was the furby sequence. That's all 698 00:50:16.449 --> 00:50:21.090 I'm going to say. And I watched. I watched this film and I 699 00:50:21.210 --> 00:50:23.519 like and I generally I watch pixar films and I watch dream works films and 700 00:50:23.519 --> 00:50:27.519 I was just lots of animated films and I had I how good they are 701 00:50:27.679 --> 00:50:30.039 and I chuckle and all of that kind of stuff and I observe God's really 702 00:50:30.079 --> 00:50:32.159 good. I have the way they put that together. I think that's very 703 00:50:32.199 --> 00:50:37.510 clever. This film had all of that, but I laughed out loud that 704 00:50:37.789 --> 00:50:42.510 that sequence was the standout sequence for me in a film full of standout sequences. 705 00:50:42.670 --> 00:50:45.630 Yeah, and like spiderverse, it goes maybe a little bit too connected 706 00:50:45.710 --> 00:50:50.619 towards the end, but I think that sequence alone had that I've been a 707 00:50:50.699 --> 00:50:52.219 short. I would have been you know, they would have they would have 708 00:50:52.260 --> 00:50:55.340 got me and I said I and because I laughed so much at that, 709 00:50:57.380 --> 00:51:00.619 I know I was willing to forgive the film kind of maybe having a slightly 710 00:51:00.659 --> 00:51:04.650 weaker ending the would have liked. But it's yeah, I mean across the 711 00:51:04.690 --> 00:51:07.769 board, five stars. I absolutely adored it. What do you think? 712 00:51:07.809 --> 00:51:14.489 I I completely agree. Now I watched it with the family. We often 713 00:51:14.530 --> 00:51:20.360 talk about appointment cinema and appointment viewings and I'd said to the boys and to 714 00:51:20.440 --> 00:51:22.440 my wife we're going to sit down, we're going to watch this, and 715 00:51:22.599 --> 00:51:24.719 the boat that one of my boys was I'm not sure, I'm not sure 716 00:51:25.039 --> 00:51:30.599 that I'm going to like this. And then about ten minutes in I looked 717 00:51:30.639 --> 00:51:36.349 across and they were all mesmerized it in so many different like because of the 718 00:51:36.869 --> 00:51:40.949 how beautiful it was, that the sound and every it just captured every single 719 00:51:42.070 --> 00:51:46.070 one of us. And it wasn't until about fifteen to twenty minutes in there's 720 00:51:46.070 --> 00:51:50.300 a scene, the first moment where I laughed out loud, which was a 721 00:51:50.860 --> 00:51:57.900 scene involving the family dog where the youngest is trying to trick the dad into 722 00:51:57.940 --> 00:52:02.409 getting close to the dog so that Doglicks the dad's face. I for the 723 00:52:02.489 --> 00:52:07.969 next five minutes I kind of lost the movie because of my my laughter, 724 00:52:07.969 --> 00:52:13.730 and it the best sort of comedy is that sort of repetition and pushing it 725 00:52:13.849 --> 00:52:17.639 just beyond what you think you you need to do. And I I was 726 00:52:19.199 --> 00:52:22.280 at it just hit the sweet spot for me in every single way. Yes, 727 00:52:22.480 --> 00:52:29.119 the ending was a little frenettick and not perhaps as much of as a 728 00:52:29.400 --> 00:52:37.829 payoff as I would have wanted, but everything, the the comedic robots that 729 00:52:37.949 --> 00:52:42.550 were in there and the you know, the comedic neighbors as well, which 730 00:52:42.670 --> 00:52:49.860 was a nice little cameo from John Legend and his family. I absolutely had. 731 00:52:49.940 --> 00:52:52.659 I would I would recommend this to anybody. I can't wait to own 732 00:52:52.699 --> 00:52:59.449 this physically on Blu ray because it will excite me to watch it again and 733 00:52:59.610 --> 00:53:02.250 to sit down and to have and to own this. And it's not often 734 00:53:02.610 --> 00:53:06.730 I get a film where I want, I really want to own that now 735 00:53:07.289 --> 00:53:09.969 and it throws it back to how I felt when I was younger and you 736 00:53:10.090 --> 00:53:14.599 know, you would go and buy you your five and thirty pounds or whatever 737 00:53:14.599 --> 00:53:16.559 it was, and you were excited and that and this film brought that back 738 00:53:16.639 --> 00:53:21.519 to me and you know I can't give it much higher praise than that. 739 00:53:21.559 --> 00:53:23.960 I absolutely loved it, as did all of my family. You mentioned that. 740 00:53:24.199 --> 00:53:27.190 You mentioned the dog. Their Craig. It's imported in this note that 741 00:53:27.230 --> 00:53:30.909 the dog was actually played by Doug Buck Dog. The pug had a curry 742 00:53:30.989 --> 00:53:35.750 in who's through and I have to say, day, I know there is 743 00:53:35.829 --> 00:53:42.579 one moment at the end, there is a payoff during that final sequence that 744 00:53:43.900 --> 00:53:50.380 involving the

pug that genuinely made me laugh out loud as well and partially down 745 00:53:50.500 --> 00:53:54.500 again, giving giving big props to Olivia Colman's performance, just in that in 746 00:53:54.659 --> 00:54:00.889 that moment it was just at the combination of the physical comedy and the dialog 747 00:54:00.130 --> 00:54:06.449 was just perfect. Obviously, I you know me and if you're if you're 748 00:54:06.449 --> 00:54:09.159 a regular listeners to the podcast, you'll know one of my big loves is 749 00:54:09.480 --> 00:54:15.320 my it's my daughter and the fact that I'm getting here invested in film and 750 00:54:15.599 --> 00:54:21.440 a lot of the things that kind of tick on my tear trigger when when 751 00:54:21.440 --> 00:54:27.190 I'm watching films is things that involve father daughter relationships or, you know, 752 00:54:27.269 --> 00:54:32.030 parental relationships with with their with their kids. And, like Cav I teared 753 00:54:32.070 --> 00:54:36.150 up. There is a moment very, very close to the end, and 754 00:54:36.269 --> 00:54:40.659 it's a really simple moment, that there's a music choice by cig a Ross 755 00:54:40.739 --> 00:54:47.420 hoppy Pola, and that kicked in and you know, I've been I've been 756 00:54:47.539 --> 00:54:51.659 walking a bit of an emotional tightrope myself, you know, in the last 757 00:54:51.699 --> 00:54:57.090 couple of weeks and that moment coming with with you know, with a bonding 758 00:54:57.250 --> 00:55:01.250 moment with the family and this beautiful piece of music. I allowed myself a 759 00:55:01.369 --> 00:55:07.559 thirty second ugly cry at that bit and it was it was just so beautifully 760 00:55:07.599 --> 00:55:10.480 done and you know, there are a few bits that really kind of hit 761 00:55:10.599 --> 00:55:16.440 that hit that trigger with me. And yet the all of the family relationships 762 00:55:16.480 --> 00:55:21.400 are good. I think across the family that there is no weak link. 763 00:55:21.469 --> 00:55:27.389 They're including the Pug, so Danny McBride's great as Rick, the Dad, 764 00:55:27.949 --> 00:55:32.309 my Rudolph, is always great fun. I'd be Jacobson, who plays Katie 765 00:55:32.349 --> 00:55:37.780 Mitchell. She is she is really, really, really likable, even when 766 00:55:37.059 --> 00:55:42.579 she is not being especially liable. It's quite unusual in a film like this 767 00:55:43.179 --> 00:55:50.690 that you have the main character actually do something that's that's that's pretty pretty poor 768 00:55:50.889 --> 00:55:54.610 form. Yet you still want to root for there there's a there's a comment 769 00:55:54.730 --> 00:55:59.570 she makes to a brother halfway through and it's it's a really it's got a 770 00:55:59.650 --> 00:56:04.400 really unfair moment. But and Michael Round of the director, plays the son, 771 00:56:04.559 --> 00:56:08.519 Aaron, and again it's another really, really great performance he has. 772 00:56:08.760 --> 00:56:13.039 He has one line at the beginn it's in the trailer where he's going through 773 00:56:13.039 --> 00:56:15.760 the phone book, but just the delivery of it is a get it really 774 00:56:15.840 --> 00:56:22.190 they're just really simple, tiny little moments throughout the film and tiny motes of 775 00:56:22.309 --> 00:56:28.190 created civity where they they re use memes and they re use video clips, 776 00:56:28.230 --> 00:56:32.139 they reuse references from earlier on and it's just everything is a treat within the 777 00:56:32.179 --> 00:56:37.699 film and it's one that I'm really looking forward to revisiting because I think like 778 00:56:37.980 --> 00:56:43.420 into the spider verse and I know it's a really good touch point because of 779 00:56:43.539 --> 00:56:46.139 the quality, because the stable, because the animation style, but what I 780 00:56:46.210 --> 00:56:51.130 found with into the spider verse is I really enjoyed at the first time and 781 00:56:51.250 --> 00:56:54.369 then I decided to go back and watch it a second time at the Imax 782 00:56:54.849 --> 00:57:01.519 and absolutely fell in love with it because I saw more, I understood more, 783 00:57:02.480 --> 00:57:07.119 I got to appreciate more of the visual style it and I'm really really 784 00:57:07.199 --> 00:57:13.920 looking forward to revisiting the Mitchell versus some machines with my daughter, because I 785 00:57:14.119 --> 00:57:16.070 know she is going to love it. I mean, she's dog mad anyway, 786 00:57:16.150 --> 00:57:20.190 so her she's going to fall in love with the pug. I'm going 787 00:57:20.230 --> 00:57:22.670 to have to do it a love of monsters and matures of the machines, 788 00:57:23.469 --> 00:57:28.829 double dog, double bill, for say. I'm really really looking forward to 789 00:57:29.230 --> 00:57:31.900 check it out with her and really looking forward to watching it again. So 790 00:57:32.179 --> 00:57:35.380 yeah, I think that's what you were saying. I think this heat is 791 00:57:35.460 --> 00:57:37.539 it's been the first film in a long time that I just want to watch 792 00:57:37.619 --> 00:57:38.820 straight away again. The next morning I woke up and I was like, 793 00:57:38.820 --> 00:57:40.940 I watched on Saturday night. Great time to watch it, and I was 794 00:57:40.980 --> 00:57:45.050 that Sunday morning I was a really should watch that again. I don't know, 795 00:57:45.170 --> 00:57:46.730 watch something else, but yeah, I'm looking forward to going back and 796 00:57:47.170 --> 00:57:50.690 not to mention something that was kind of like, sort of advertised ahead of 797 00:57:50.690 --> 00:57:52.050 time, and it won't give much away, but there's an exchange during the 798 00:57:52.090 --> 00:57:59.480 end credits between two characters which is quite groundbreaking in relation to animated films into 799 00:57:59.559 --> 00:58:01.159 this type of audience, which has just made me love the film more. 800

00:58:01.320 --> 00:58:05.639 So well, yeah, I've watched that. Wasn't that we were not going 801 00:58:05.679 --> 00:58:08.280 to go into spawners, but wasn't that beautifully played that it was actually just 802 00:58:09.119 --> 00:58:12.840 almost throw away, almost throw away, and try it was. It was 803 00:58:12.949 --> 00:58:15.550 throw away, but because it was throw away and because it was it was 804 00:58:15.670 --> 00:58:21.750 done in that that way it made it better. It was subtle but it 805 00:58:21.909 --> 00:58:24.389 was right and it was it was perfect for the film that it did. 806 00:58:24.469 --> 00:58:29.940 It just of course that the film does that, because it's it. It 807 00:58:30.099 --> 00:58:32.820 feels groundbreaking across the board. From that's it. Yeah, a film tradition. 808 00:58:32.940 --> 00:58:37.579 The whole film is very traditional in set up but groundbreaking and execution. 809 00:58:37.019 --> 00:58:43.489 Absolutely so. Can you tell? We enjoyed that. And so that is 810 00:58:43.610 --> 00:58:46.730 the Mitchell's versus the machines, which is on Netflix now and even if you 811 00:58:46.769 --> 00:58:52.010 haven't got kids, just give it two hours of your time and I promise 812 00:58:52.489 --> 00:58:55.800 you will enjoy it. And now the final film in our review, first 813 00:58:55.960 --> 00:59:00.400 episode, and I think it's only right, fit in and proper, that 814 00:59:00.559 --> 00:59:06.880 we end it with what ended up walking away with both the best picture and 815 00:59:07.079 --> 00:59:13.070 the best director, Oscar as well as the best leading actress performance from this 816 00:59:13.190 --> 00:59:16.869 year's Academy Awards. I am talking about close ours, no mad land. 817 00:59:17.429 --> 00:59:22.989 It's finally with us after, you know, screening at the London Film Festival 818 00:59:22.989 --> 00:59:29.579 last year, with the delays thanks to the the coronavirus, Disney plus through 819 00:59:29.659 --> 00:59:36.340 a vile star service last last week, and it's a why, as I 820 00:59:36.380 --> 00:59:38.130 say, I managed to check it out and a crazy and care for both 821 00:59:38.210 --> 00:59:43.809 managed to check it out. So, gentlemen, what are your opinions and 822 00:59:43.889 --> 00:59:47.130 what your feelings about no mad land? I'll say therefore, for the for 823 00:59:47.250 --> 00:59:51.489 better for worse. So did no mad land deserve to win the Academy Award 824 00:59:51.530 --> 00:59:53.000 for Best Picture? That's the thing, I think. There was so much 825 00:59:53.000 --> 00:59:57.800 else going on, and we discussed this during the Oscars podcast. I would 826 00:59:57.800 --> 00:60:00.920 probably say it maybe didn't, because this film could have been released at any 827 00:60:00.920 --> 00:60:05.079 year, any time, and with all the other important films there were last 828 00:60:05.079 --> 00:60:10.110 week during the verse, You're Promising Young Woman's and all the all the others 829 00:60:10.110 --> 00:60:13.269 of metal, sound of met all of that kind of stuff there. It 830 00:60:13.349 --> 00:60:16.349 was a little bit disappointing because the funny thing was was I watched no mad 831 00:60:16.389 --> 00:60:22.260 land and it was exactly how I expected it to be. Right, it 832 00:60:22.500 --> 00:60:25.420 was as good and it was as pacy and it was, as you know, 833 00:60:25.619 --> 00:60:29.820 wonderful performances and lovely visited. And it's a funny thing. was as 834 00:60:29.820 --> 00:60:31.500 because it's film has been such such a long time coming. I've read and 835 00:60:31.539 --> 00:60:35.179 seen so much about it I felt like I'd already watched it. It almost 836 00:60:35.219 --> 00:60:37.570 felt like watching the film was like just kind of like it was like, 837 00:60:37.570 --> 00:60:39.449 okay, well, I suppose I better watch the film now. I felt 838 00:60:39.449 --> 00:60:42.849 like I'd already seen it, a little bit like the new bum film is 839 00:60:42.889 --> 00:60:44.690 that kind of thing. I've seen so many trailers. Now I feel like 840 00:60:44.730 --> 00:60:46.690 that film's been and gone. But with no mad land, I wash it 841 00:60:46.690 --> 00:60:49.530 and I thought, you know what the thing is is it's walked away with 842 00:60:49.570 --> 00:60:53.000 that best picture. It's going to do something that in in its execution that's 843 00:60:53.000 --> 00:60:54.920 going to blow me away and I'm going to be like well, there you 844 00:60:54.960 --> 00:60:58.880 go. Is No mad land any good. In my opinion, it is. 845 00:60:59.159 --> 00:61:02.360 It is so good, very good, wonderful. It's exactly what I 846 00:61:02.480 --> 00:61:06.949 expected it to be. The performance is great. You wouldn't expect that for 847 00:61:07.030 --> 00:61:09.269 as you would expect that, of course, from Frances mcdorman. The dirt 848 00:61:09.349 --> 00:61:15.429 direction again assured by closer and is based on a book. You've got this 849 00:61:15.469 --> 00:61:19.860 kind of like amalgamation of performances from real nomads and you've got actors in it. 850 00:61:19.940 --> 00:61:22.579 You Got David Strength and popped up. I'm not seeing him in a 851 00:61:22.619 --> 00:61:25.659 while. It's good to see him and I think that the the way it's 852 00:61:25.739 --> 00:61:30.619 directed and the vistas and the way it looks and stuff like that is absolutely 853 00:61:30.659 --> 00:61:34.489 beautiful. So, Oscars aside, I think this film is Great, but 854 00:61:34.889 --> 00:61:37.210 if you factor the Oscars into it, I think there's going to be a 855 00:61:37.250 --> 00:61:39.530 lot of people that are watching it over the coming weeks that are going to 856 00:61:39.570 --> 00:61:43.690 be a little bit disappointed with it. I watched it, I finished it, 857 00:61:43.769 --> 00:61:45.570 I went that was lovely. The music was great, it looked brilliant, 858

00:61:45.610 --> 00:61:49.800 the performances of terrific. I can now move on and you know talk 859 00:61:49.840 --> 00:61:52.920 about Mitchell's versus machines recently. You know, it's not like I've I doubt 860 00:61:52.960 --> 00:61:58.119 I'll ever watch this again, but it was a wonderful film and I appreciated 861 00:61:58.280 --> 00:62:02.670 it if I didn't necessarily enjoy it. If that makes sense. Yeah, 862 00:62:04.070 --> 00:62:07.989 no, it makes it makes perfect sense and I can understand that. There 863 00:62:07.070 --> 00:62:14.909 has been an element of blowback against the film because it's really not for everyone. 864 00:62:15.309 --> 00:62:19.139 There are there are certain people that will watch it and probably probably not. 865 00:62:20.059 --> 00:62:22.260 It won't resonate with them in quite the same way that it that it 866 00:62:22.619 --> 00:62:25.820 has maybe with us. I mean I thought it was. It was it 867 00:62:25.940 --> 00:62:30.130 was really good. It was really tender of those it was a real slow 868 00:62:30.210 --> 00:62:36.449 burn and, like you said, kept the direction was gorgeous and Glorious and 869 00:62:36.610 --> 00:62:40.809 the cinematography was amazing and it does. It draws you in, I think, 870 00:62:40.969 --> 00:62:45.719 more than anything, and I think one of the strengths of it is 871 00:62:45.559 --> 00:62:52.639 because it uses real nomads and their experiences, it makes it feel more honest. 872 00:62:52.679 --> 00:62:59.590 Yeah, that there are a few discussions that Francis mcdormand is just so 873 00:62:59.750 --> 00:63:02.829 good in this film because she inhabits the role. It's not, it's not. 874 00:63:04.909 --> 00:63:09.150 It's not a march gunderson. It's it's not her role in three billboards. 875 00:63:09.869 --> 00:63:15.619 It's it's much more understated. It's quite she does sort of offsite between 876 00:63:15.659 --> 00:63:22.820 quite a warm character and then when she feels like she's getting close to people 877 00:63:22.900 --> 00:63:25.099 cheap, it almost feels that she almost goes a little bit cold and you 878 00:63:25.139 --> 00:63:30.650 see the war coming up. But it's it's an inhabited role and it's it's 879 00:63:30.650 --> 00:63:34.889 a very, very it's a obviously a confident before it, but it's just 880 00:63:35.329 --> 00:63:38.969 such an assured performance. But then you counterpoint her, and this is probably 881 00:63:38.969 --> 00:63:44.079 where some of the strength lies, is she is such a damn good actor. 882 00:63:44.119 --> 00:63:46.280 But in those moments where she is sharing those with some of the nomads. 883 00:63:46.360 --> 00:63:50.880 So there's a there's a really such a moment halfway through with somebody who 884 00:63:51.000 --> 00:63:57.829 she has become quite close friends with and the lady confides in her something that 885 00:63:58.670 --> 00:64:02.789 actually that was a really resonant moment and it was it was made all

the 886 00:64:02.869 --> 00:64:08.949 better by the fact that Francis mcdorman just sat back and let it happen and 887 00:64:09.389 --> 00:64:15.340 and reacted appropriately in and and the lady, the WHO, both in the 888 00:64:15.380 --> 00:64:18.860 film and in real life, is called swanky and she she delivered a really 889 00:64:18.860 --> 00:64:24.099 nice before there's another one later on with kind of the kind of the leader 890 00:64:24.139 --> 00:64:28.849 of the nomads called Bob, and again he gives he gives this really emotive 891 00:64:29.090 --> 00:64:31.489 speech. He does a few times throughout the film and that's really where the 892 00:64:31.530 --> 00:64:36.090 hook where it where it gets and your skin is that honesty in the emotion 893 00:64:36.210 --> 00:64:41.960 in it that it's not showy. It's all about, you know, that 894 00:64:43.000 --> 00:64:49.800 finding, finding freedom after basically a disastrous, a disastrous moment of not really 895 00:64:49.800 --> 00:64:54.309 talked about the kind of the plot of the film, which just to kind 896 00:64:54.309 --> 00:65:00.150 of update you. So the Francis mcderman character, she lives in a town 897 00:65:00.150 --> 00:65:05.550 called Empire that the main industry is closed and essentially because there is nothing else 898 00:65:05.590 --> 00:65:10.420 there for people, no jobs, no nothing, the town becomes a void 899 00:65:10.539 --> 00:65:15.340 postcode and essentially becomes a ghost town. So rather than try and stay there, 900 00:65:15.940 --> 00:65:21.610 she essentially packs up a van and goes off to find work and ends 901 00:65:21.650 --> 00:65:27.329 up falling in with with kind of the nomad lifestyle and I'm traveling from place 902 00:65:27.409 --> 00:65:34.449 to place meeting people and finding of varying experiences of work and it's yeah, 903 00:65:34.530 --> 00:65:40.519 it's really heartweight in net in that way that it's the idea is it's not 904 00:65:40.920 --> 00:65:45.679 a kind of a plot driven film. It's very much an experienced driven film. 905 00:65:45.800 --> 00:65:48.760 You move from experience to experience and and how you view and how you 906 00:65:48.920 --> 00:65:55.230 watch it, whether you are looking for that that kindness in that human contact 907 00:65:55.349 --> 00:65:59.590 and that that feeling of community, you will get. You know that there 908 00:65:59.630 --> 00:66:01.949 are there are high points, there are low points in it, but it's 909 00:66:01.989 --> 00:66:05.980 just all very real all the way through, and that's again, like you 910 00:66:06.059 --> 00:66:10.940 say, it probably didn't resonate with me as much as the sound of metal 911 00:66:11.219 --> 00:66:15.500 or promising young woman this year, but I mean that's not to do it 912 00:66:15.539 --> 00:66:18.929 a disservice. I didn't find it an easy watch, but I definitely appreciated 913 00:66:19.050 --> 00:66:24.889 it and I definitely definitely took something from it. Craig, how did you 914 00:66:24.929 --> 00:66:29.849 find it? I I don't know if enjoy is the right word to use. 915 00:66:29.969 --> 00:66:34.239 I think you probably right there. It's I I appreciated it. And 916 00:66:35.320 --> 00:66:42.760 what something that I find in almost every Oscar buzz movie is, you know, 917 00:66:42.840 --> 00:66:48.230 there's something in there for me, and with this there was something missing 918 00:66:48.429 --> 00:66:53.190 for me within it, and that is I would have a real fear of 919 00:66:53.389 --> 00:66:58.670 my security if that was me in that nomad lifestyle. And it wasn't touched 920 00:66:58.909 --> 00:67:03.300 on that. It was seemed to be a very secure you know, environment, 921 00:67:03.340 --> 00:67:06.699 and I understand that that's about the community and you know, and that's 922 00:67:06.699 --> 00:67:13.380 what they're looking at, but there's a moment where fronts mcdermot's walking across and 923 00:67:13.579 --> 00:67:18.170 you see for Quad Bikes or, you know, all trained vehicles coming and 924 00:67:18.250 --> 00:67:23.170 I was like, okay, this is the moment where the security of her 925 00:67:23.409 --> 00:67:27.929 life is going to be jeopardized by those whoever's on that and it nothing ever 926 00:67:28.090 --> 00:67:32.320 came of that and it I was always waiting for that, that that's something 927 00:67:32.400 --> 00:67:35.960 that was going to throw jeopardy into her life, other than, you know, 928 00:67:36.239 --> 00:67:40.840 how she deals with with other humans, which is what the film is 929 00:67:40.880 --> 00:67:45.989 about, and I for me, everything was so very truthful about it, 930 00:67:47.429 --> 00:67:56.030 the tender moments of when she is at the watching the the alligator and they 931 00:67:56.110 --> 00:67:59.139 are, you know, she has the snake around her, which are beautiful 932 00:67:59.739 --> 00:68:04.179 moments. I everything was was there apart from that that jeopardy that and it 933 00:68:04.300 --> 00:68:08.659 maybe it's because I would be a nervous person, you know, if that 934 00:68:08.820 --> 00:68:13.650 was my if I was living out of a van or you know. But 935 00:68:14.130 --> 00:68:16.970 and the knocking. There was quite a lot of people knocking on the doors 936 00:68:17.010 --> 00:68:20.649 and so on, and there was obviously they make reference to the didn't you 937 00:68:20.689 --> 00:68:24.449 see? The flag was up. You know that means that somebody's resting. 938 00:68:24.810 --> 00:68:30.680 I just how close you are to danger wasn't addressed for me. But that's 939 00:68:30.720 --> 00:68:34.319 not to take away from the fact that the film is, if is wonderful. 940 00:68:34.760 --> 00:68:41.199 Francis McDonald, obviously is, is absolutely incredible and you know, watching 941 00:68:41.279 --> 00:68:45.310 her is you know, it's effortless and she, like you said, Scott 942 00:68:45.310 --> 00:68:48.350

as well. It's her reacting to other people that, you know, has 943 00:68:48.430 --> 00:68:54.510 secured her. The the Oscar definitely here. So that's only a slight thing. 944 00:68:54.789 --> 00:68:59.699 You know, I I probably won't watch the film again, but it 945 00:68:59.899 --> 00:69:04.060 is beautiful, absolutely beautiful, and it it makes me want to see more 946 00:69:04.220 --> 00:69:10.090 of America and more of the world, you know. But yeah, I 947 00:69:10.289 --> 00:69:14.449 doubt that's how I what what I personally take away from it. But, 948 00:69:14.770 --> 00:69:16.770 you know, not to take away from the film in itself. I think 949 00:69:16.850 --> 00:69:20.409 this certainly would have been enjoyed more by me had I been able to see 950 00:69:20.449 --> 00:69:24.760 it cinematically, and maybe the best time would have been to have seen it 951 00:69:24.920 --> 00:69:28.119 last year at the London Film Festival in a cinema, and you know that 952 00:69:28.199 --> 00:69:33.279 kind of thing. And just in relation to the director chloes are getting that 953 00:69:33.359 --> 00:69:35.840 award. I think it's what you were saying. Really is a it's a 954 00:69:35.920 --> 00:69:41.949 film where people are just being and to direct that and have your balance of 955 00:69:42.029 --> 00:69:47.829 actors and and real nomads and it seems so fluid and all connected and consistent. 956 00:69:47.949 --> 00:69:53.380 I think he's a is an achievement itself that and she was well well 957 00:69:53.460 --> 00:69:57.619 awarded that up. So I agree. One quick question. I'm not going 958 00:69:57.619 --> 00:70:01.140 to go kind of too deep into this, but it's something that's been discussed 959 00:70:01.180 --> 00:70:08.729 since, since the release is there's been a lot sort of blowback about how 960 00:70:08.930 --> 00:70:16.729 the film treats firms working at Amazon. Basically, they're disappointed that actually Amazon 961 00:70:17.409 --> 00:70:21.119 because, you know, they're reputation of things about the way they treat their 962 00:70:21.159 --> 00:70:26.000 staff. That she that some people feel that she gave it a bit of 963 00:70:26.079 --> 00:70:29.880 a bit of an easy ride. My personal thing, I don't know how 964 00:70:29.920 --> 00:70:34.039 you feel, is that this, this wasn't the film for the the polemic 965 00:70:34.079 --> 00:70:40.390 against them, that that that's a real thing that these nomads do, is 966 00:70:40.430 --> 00:70:44.869 they go and work in these they're going work in these warehouses. Yeah, 967 00:70:44.869 --> 00:70:47.949 the kind of traveling go where the work is done. Absolutely, and I 968 00:70:48.310 --> 00:70:53.260 feel that if, if it would have done too much of that. It 969 00:70:53.420 --> 00:70:58.300 may have offset what the film was trying to trying to achieve that. It's 970 00:70:58.340 --> 00:71:03.810 not necessarily it. You know, it's a positive reaction to big business and 971

00:71:06.329 --> 00:71:13.449 economic issues that actually these people are are going out into the world and there 972 00:71:13.569 --> 00:71:17.010 isn't there's only a start small element of jeopardy when you realize that one have 973 00:71:17.170 --> 00:71:21.520 UN breaks down at one point. Yeah, it spoiler that. There is 974 00:71:21.680 --> 00:71:27.600 that. There is that in her risk that all of a sudden she's homeless 975 00:71:28.600 --> 00:71:31.000 and there's that that real risk. That's it touches on it, but it 976 00:71:31.119 --> 00:71:34.350 doesn't it doesn't drive it home. I don't think it was. I don't 977 00:71:34.390 --> 00:71:38.149 think it was a film there to be. Yeah, I think. I 978 00:71:38.270 --> 00:71:40.829 think maybe going back to that point Craig was saying about there was no that 979 00:71:41.069 --> 00:71:43.189 jeopardy and stuff and, like you were saying, it's goot. They kind 980 00:71:43.189 --> 00:71:44.989 of gave amage. I think it's because it's based on the book, isn't 981 00:71:44.989 --> 00:71:47.380 it? Jessica broods book, and she wrote the elements of the film as 982 00:71:47.420 --> 00:71:55.500 well. I think it's the nomadic lifestyle is essentially your dangers or your advantages 983 00:71:55.539 --> 00:72:00.180 disadvantages in the world and in life come from the landscape. They come from 984 00:72:00.220 --> 00:72:02.649 that. So if your fan breaks down you're in the middle of the desert 985 00:72:02.689 --> 00:72:05.489 and no one's around, that will get you. You know, in a 986 00:72:05.529 --> 00:72:09.050 similar waiter, if you're in a big city, you might get stabbed or 987 00:72:09.050 --> 00:72:10.850 Mug or whatever like that is. And you know that kind of thing. 988 00:72:11.130 --> 00:72:16.079 Amazon does facilitate this like type of lifestyle for many people. But then you 989 00:72:16.159 --> 00:72:18.960 don't want it to become a film about that as well. And had they 990 00:72:19.000 --> 00:72:21.760 have called it although that, you know, if they hadn't have called it 991 00:72:21.800 --> 00:72:25.880 Amazon and they'd called it like and you know they've given it some weird name, 992 00:72:25.920 --> 00:72:28.319 everyone to be like, oh, they're representing Amazon. So that was 993 00:72:28.399 --> 00:72:30.029 by the by. And there is a remark in it when she speaks and 994 00:72:30.149 --> 00:72:31.909 she kind of goes yeah, I like it, I like them, they 995 00:72:31.949 --> 00:72:34.630 pay well and all of that kind of stuff. And essentially, I suppose 996 00:72:34.710 --> 00:72:39.029 maybe if you read Jessica Brooder's books, you'll say, well, them doing 997 00:72:39.149 --> 00:72:42.229 that facilitates me to do this. You know, it's it's that kind of 998 00:72:42.229 --> 00:72:44.500 thing really, and I think it's almost like a slice of life in the 999 00:72:44.539 --> 00:72:46.340 sense of this takes place over if she's going to do this for the rest 1000 00:72:46.380 --> 00:72:49.260 of her life. This takes place over a very kind of short period of 1001 00:72:49.300 --> 00:72:54.699 time, over about maybe a year. Yeah, and in there, yeah, 1002 00:72:54.779 --> 00:72:57.539 and I think she in that is making a decision whether or not she's 1003 00:72:57.579 --> 00:73:00.689 going to stay and, you know, or she's going to actually settle down. 1004 00:73:00.689 --> 00:73:02.449 And everyone seems concerned about her and she's like, you know, there's 1005 00:73:02.489 --> 00:73:04.810 the characters are like, are you okay? Do you want to stay? 1006 00:73:04.810 --> 00:73:06.529 It's going to be cold tonight. You want to come and, you know, 1007 00:73:06.689 --> 00:73:10.170 sleep in my room? You're homeless, and she's like, no, 1008 00:73:10.250 --> 00:73:13.600 I'm not homeless, I'm just houseless. I choose to do this. I'm 1009 00:73:13.640 --> 00:73:17.399 not doing this because of any other reason other than myself. Respect that respect 1010 00:73:17.479 --> 00:73:20.800 me. These are the things I do and big business oddly, for some 1011 00:73:20.960 --> 00:73:27.949 reason, seems to facilitate this polar opposite lifestyle. And you know that it's 1012 00:73:27.989 --> 00:73:29.989 a weird king. I think that kind of Jack. You know that those 1013 00:73:29.989 --> 00:73:32.829 kind of like conflictions were worthy more interesting parts of the film for me. 1014 00:73:33.670 --> 00:73:38.390 Definitely. I think probably we might been having a very different conversation if this 1015 00:73:38.510 --> 00:73:43.300 had been released. And I'm some prime exclusive. Yeah, the I think 1016 00:73:43.420 --> 00:73:46.020 the time of year that she because she's there around Christmas as well, isn't 1017 00:73:46.020 --> 00:73:50.579 she? And she, yes, out she it's the idea is that she 1018 00:73:50.739 --> 00:73:55.810 gets what she wants out of Amazon. She gets good, pretty good work, 1019 00:73:55.970 --> 00:73:59.090 and you know and and friends, you know those people. Yeah, 1020 00:73:59.130 --> 00:74:01.970 that she and that's for a very warm scene where she's talking to the people. 1021 00:74:02.289 --> 00:74:09.649 So it's regardless of what the company is, she's getting what she wants 1022 00:74:09.729 --> 00:74:14.680 and leads out of Amazon. Yeah, Gardless of their status, you know, 1023 00:74:15.199 --> 00:74:17.399 in the world and so on. It's not about that. It's about 1024 00:74:17.520 --> 00:74:21.279 her and what she gets out of that situation. So yeah, and you, 1025 00:74:21.399 --> 00:74:24.670 like you say, it's not the film to be it's not. That's 1026 00:74:24.789 --> 00:74:30.869 that's not part of it and you could have named it anything and it's I 1027 00:74:31.229 --> 00:74:34.189 thought that that aspect of it was to handle. We and the fact that 1028 00:74:34.590 --> 00:74:40.060 she goes back as well at the same time of year and then there's a 1029

00:74:40.220 --> 00:74:44.579 scene where she's rushing people, you know, happy New Year. I think 1030 00:74:44.619 --> 00:74:46.819 those two the time of year and that, you know, all fed in 1031 00:74:46.859 --> 00:74:50.899 nicely to that and I wouldn't have a gripe with the with the way that 1032 00:74:51.020 --> 00:74:56.250 there was portrayed personally. If anything, the fact that they used Amazon was 1033 00:74:56.289 --> 00:74:58.850 a great way of just quickly saying this is the type of thing you know, 1034 00:74:58.930 --> 00:75:00.050 you know what we're talking about. We're talking about a big business doing 1035 00:75:00.090 --> 00:75:02.729 that kind of thing. That's facilitate is that wasn't the point, but it 1036 00:75:02.850 --> 00:75:06.479 was. It was you. They used Amazon to illustrate that point. Probably 1037 00:75:06.640 --> 00:75:10.920 that will the fact that in the book she talks about Amazon. Yeah, 1038 00:75:11.439 --> 00:75:15.520 so that's No mad land the winner of Best Picture, of best director and 1039 00:75:15.039 --> 00:75:19.880 best lead, just performance this year's Oscars. And Yeah, as we say, 1040 00:75:20.279 --> 00:75:26.149 it's a really really heartfelt, really warm film. Again, we probably 1041 00:75:26.229 --> 00:75:30.149 don't think it would be for everybody. It's something you need to invest your 1042 00:75:30.630 --> 00:75:38.420 attention and go for the experience rather than going for for event, because that's 1043 00:75:38.460 --> 00:75:42.819 essentially it's not a movie with events. It's about that passage of time and 1044 00:75:42.899 --> 00:75:47.619 that passage of life and finding finding your freedom, and that's available on Disney 1045 00:75:47.619 --> 00:75:51.770 plus now. So, speaking of the Oscars, care if you stayed up 1046 00:75:51.810 --> 00:75:54.850 to watch them this year? Dd I did. I always. Yeah, 1047 00:75:54.850 --> 00:75:58.289 always watch. It's very different ceremony this year and funnily enough, Francis mcdermand 1048 00:75:58.329 --> 00:76:00.689 took swanky the nomad from the film to the Oscar with her, so she 1049 00:76:00.810 --> 00:76:04.720 was one of the few so it's basically in the kind of very different thing. 1050 00:76:04.760 --> 00:76:08.600 It wasn't the Kodak Auditor and it wasn't a big song and dance thing 1051 00:76:08.760 --> 00:76:12.399 and just to kind of give you a whistle stop to or obviously, awards 1052 00:76:12.439 --> 00:76:14.680 aside, you could you can see those if you look come up online. 1053 00:76:14.840 --> 00:76:18.029 The ceremony itself was probably one of the better executed of the ceremonies I've seen 1054 00:76:18.189 --> 00:76:23.109 recently during the pandemic. So certainly better than the bafters, which had that 1055 00:76:23.390 --> 00:76:27.270 annoying kind of like laugh track or applaud you know, fake audience, which 1056 00:76:27.390 --> 00:76:30.029 is weird. Seemed less clunky than the Golden

Globes did, but it was 1057 00:76:30.109 --> 00:76:33.180 lovely and intimate. And what they did this time was they didn't necessarily, 1058 00:76:33.340 --> 00:76:35.619 and this was something that my mum, who watched a little bit of it, 1059 00:76:35.899 --> 00:76:39.819 had problems with. She was like, they didn't show clips whenever you 1060 00:76:40.020 --> 00:76:43.819 was nominated. They weren't like his, this person nominated for this performance and 1061 00:76:43.859 --> 00:76:45.420 then showed a clip of it. They did it a couple of times. 1062 00:76:45.460 --> 00:76:48.970 It like documentary feature and stuff, but the main awards there was nothing in 1063 00:76:49.090 --> 00:76:51.569 that respect. And what they actually had was they had the hosts and there 1064 00:76:51.609 --> 00:76:55.130 wasn't one host, there was many, as seems to be the kind of 1065 00:76:55.170 --> 00:76:59.649 trend at the moment, that would come out and they talk through the talk 1066 00:76:59.729 --> 00:77:01.960 for all of the nominees and what they would basically do was talked, talk 1067 00:77:02.079 --> 00:77:06.039 through the film and thank them for their performance. So they'd be like, 1068 00:77:06.359 --> 00:77:11.800 Francis mcdorman, you show the wonderful life of nomads to do this and we 1069 00:77:11.920 --> 00:77:14.479 thank you for your performance this year. Then everyone would applaud. It was 1070 00:77:14.560 --> 00:77:17.270 very respectful and what I noticed was as well, and obviously there would have 1071 00:77:17.270 --> 00:77:20.829 been restriction within limits, but there was no no one was played off, 1072 00:77:21.229 --> 00:77:24.829 there was no kind of like someone wanted to come out and give a political 1073 00:77:24.869 --> 00:77:28.229 speech. If somebody wanted to come out and give a ten minutes speech where 1074 00:77:28.229 --> 00:77:30.500 they were thanking everyone from, you know, their mom to their dog, 1075 00:77:30.460 --> 00:77:33.619 they could do that. And the thing was was it was probably, in 1076 00:77:33.659 --> 00:77:39.300 an odd way, the way the Academy Awards should be and probably the wall 1077 00:77:39.300 --> 00:77:42.819 way the Academy Awards were formerly when they used to take place in a ball 1078 00:77:42.899 --> 00:77:46.609 room of some hotel in Los Angeles before it was televised, where it's just 1079 00:77:46.729 --> 00:77:50.890 people from the industry thanking each other. backslapping each other, but just generally 1080 00:77:50.930 --> 00:77:56.289 being nice and respecting the medium of film and the industry that they're all in, 1081 00:77:56.489 --> 00:77:59.920 especially during this year. And I would say that did I find that 1082 00:78:00.039 --> 00:78:02.399 entertaining? No, I didn't. Did I miss the old format? Yes, 1083 00:78:02.479 --> 00:78:04.840 I did, and I'm glad it's going to be coming back next year 1084 00:78:04.960 --> 00:78:10.199 because they had

a sequence where Brian Cranston presented an award from the Kodak Auditorium 1085 00:78:11.560 --> 00:78:13.989 to a group of people and he said that they'd be back there next year. 1086 00:78:14.189 --> 00:78:16.229 So it was really a one off and I watched it thinking this is 1087 00:78:16.310 --> 00:78:19.350 the way it should be, but this isn't the way I like it to 1088 00:78:19.430 --> 00:78:21.869 be. I want the Glitz, I want the Glammor I want the comedy 1089 00:78:21.909 --> 00:78:27.260 and I want the you know, the big the big performances. I want 1090 00:78:27.260 --> 00:78:30.100 to hear the nominees for score. I want to see the clips of people 1091 00:78:30.140 --> 00:78:33.859 delivering it, because I love watching films around Oscar time and going that will 1092 00:78:33.859 --> 00:78:38.340 be the speech that they use or that will be the clip they use when 1093 00:78:38.380 --> 00:78:44.770 those when the nominee comes up. And and I think that they had a 1094 00:78:45.210 --> 00:78:47.449 weird kind of like change of the foot the format, where they didn't present 1095 00:78:47.569 --> 00:78:53.850 best picture. Last they presented best picture before they presented best act or was 1096 00:78:54.090 --> 00:78:58.079 sorry, not best picture. Picked the basically picture, and I don't like 1097 00:78:58.159 --> 00:79:00.760 to call them best because I'm not generally called best. Are they the kind 1098 00:79:00.760 --> 00:79:04.119 of like performance for leading actor, performance for leading woman and better, and 1099 00:79:04.279 --> 00:79:08.760 picture of the kids, though, best. But Anyway, at the end 1100 00:79:08.840 --> 00:79:11.550 of short hand, we know what you mean. Yeah, so basically best 1101 00:79:11.550 --> 00:79:16.350 picture was before the number the award for best actor, invest and best and 1102 00:79:16.750 --> 00:79:23.550 best supporting sorry, best actor and best actress, and that kind of rubbed 1103 00:79:23.550 --> 00:79:26.420 a few people U Roll Way because obviously it kind of heavily implied that the 1104 00:79:26.500 --> 00:79:30.300 best actor award was going to go one way, but it went another and 1105 00:79:30.380 --> 00:79:33.699 Chadwick Boseman didn't didn't get it. But other than a couple of skits and 1106 00:79:33.779 --> 00:79:38.609 it during the evening where they did like a weird random Oscar quiz to the 1107 00:79:38.689 --> 00:79:44.090 people that were in the in the station, it was an odd it was 1108 00:79:44.130 --> 00:79:46.810 kind of like an odd, very straightforward ceremony that ran to time. So 1109 00:79:46.970 --> 00:79:49.930 I would say not for it wasn't for everybody. A lot of people found 1110 00:79:49.930 --> 00:79:54.279 it boring and if you didn't know the films that were nominated, you didn't 1111 00:79:54.279 --> 00:79:57.720 know the performances and hadn't seen any elements of the film, then you wouldn't 1112 00:79:57.720 --> 00:80:00.479 have got anything from it because they weren't showing it, you know, and 1113 00:80:00.520 --> 00:80:02.039 I didn't. I don't think anybody watched it going Oh, I've got to 1114 00:80:02.119 --> 00:80:04.640 see that, that looks good, because they would have just been given a 1115 00:80:04.720 --> 00:80:09.710 description of how the formats was and seen the actor win it or not. 1116 00:80:10.149 --> 00:80:13.189 So there we go. So yeah, I think it was an interesting ceremony, 1117 00:80:13.430 --> 00:80:15.829 but not one that I think should be repeated for a just a quick 1118 00:80:16.109 --> 00:80:21.979 sort of acknowledgement to the last episode that, of course, the big winners 1119 00:80:23.100 --> 00:80:28.579 on the night for the to lead performances, the director and best picture will 1120 00:80:28.659 --> 00:80:31.819 all films that we hadn't had chance to see, me the preview of the 1121 00:80:31.859 --> 00:80:36.409 last episode. So just goes to show, you know, maybe maybe we 1122 00:80:36.529 --> 00:80:41.649 need to hold our tongues until we've seen everything, but have absolute favor. 1123 00:80:42.529 --> 00:80:45.449 They've they've largely made made good choices this this time out. It was y 1124 00:80:45.489 --> 00:80:48.649 excellent. Many people say it's about it a bad year for cinema but a 1125 00:80:48.729 --> 00:80:51.279 great year for film. Yeah, I think. Yeah, it was a 1126 00:80:51.359 --> 00:80:57.039 really, really strong batch of films this year. So yeah, excellent. 1127 00:80:57.319 --> 00:81:01.000 So, Ladies and gentlemen, it's that time of the week again and it's 1128 00:81:01.119 --> 00:81:12.470 time for our battle. So, if you've not listened to pitch battle before 1129 00:81:12.750 --> 00:81:15.789 and you have new to the Monkey, see monkey review podcast. The idea 1130 00:81:15.869 --> 00:81:18.460 behind a pitch battle is what we do is we are given five minutes to 1131 00:81:18.819 --> 00:81:23.979 come up with a pitch for a film. Now we base our pitches on 1132 00:81:24.100 --> 00:81:30.460 three things. An actor, item under genre. These items and genres and 1133 00:81:30.659 --> 00:81:36.050 actors are given to us by you, deal Stener, and what we do 1134 00:81:36.289 --> 00:81:41.689 is we create our pitches and then come back and present to each other and, 1135 00:81:42.329 --> 00:81:45.289 by extension, your ears, and then we decided amongst us which one 1136 00:81:45.569 --> 00:81:49.119 is the best. And obviously you have the opportunity to sound off on our 1137 00:81:49.199 --> 00:81:55.399 social media, which will give you at the end. So this week's pitch 1138 00:81:55.520 --> 00:82:00.000 battle has been given to us by Mr Martin Moore, Martin's he's a good 1139 00:82:00.000 --> 00:82:04.710 lads and he's given us a what could potentially be a cracking one this week. 1140 00:82:04.789 --> 00:82:13.750 So our actors. Mr Samuel L Jackson, the item is marmalade nice 1141

00:82:14.590 --> 00:82:19.699 and your genre is thriller. So we have five minutes to come up with 1142 00:82:19.739 --> 00:82:24.340 our pictures. But for you dear listener will be back in a couple of 1143 00:82:24.460 --> 00:82:30.289 seconds. Gentlemen, pens down, are we already ready? As will ever 1144 00:82:30.329 --> 00:82:34.770 be fantastic. So, in our usual scientific method of deciding who goes, 1145 00:82:34.890 --> 00:82:42.210 when Kev said, you know, I'll do it first, it's so with 1146 00:82:42.369 --> 00:82:48.720 the out further ado presenting he's pitch for Samuel Jackson's marmalade thriller, it's Mr 1147 00:82:48.760 --> 00:82:53.560 Kevin Haney. Okay, here we go. Imagine our Wucku pedal right, 1148 00:82:53.640 --> 00:82:59.430 very similar to chaff. Right, W what? What? Sam Jackson's bag, 1149 00:82:59.550 --> 00:83:03.829 baby in, he in messing. He's played shaft, but this term 1150 00:83:04.310 --> 00:83:14.260 she's got a new jam Fu. Sam Jackson is John Marmalade, a cool 1151 00:83:14.340 --> 00:83:19.779 cat, the dog. Take News spread from any fool. You'll break the 1152 00:83:19.939 --> 00:83:25.340 case, shoot two, three or and make the bad guys ass. But 1153 00:83:25.539 --> 00:83:31.409 want of a better word, our COLS HMM, it's the thriller of the 1154 00:83:31.489 --> 00:83:46.199 year. Sam Jackson is mamlade. Yeah, there we go. I am 1155 00:83:46.640 --> 00:83:51.119 I am very aware that I essentially did a black spoilitation film, but managed 1156 00:83:51.239 --> 00:83:56.229 to cheat at the end by saying it's the thriller of the year. So 1157 00:83:57.710 --> 00:84:00.029 you did I like that do a fire. So technically it was right. 1158 00:84:00.109 --> 00:84:03.270 But yeah, I don't think I would deserve to win based on the fact 1159 00:84:03.270 --> 00:84:06.869 that it was more like flotation than it was thriller. But are we with 1160 00:84:08.109 --> 00:84:15.300 more fuzzy, better WAKA WAKATA? I said so. Presenting his Samuel Jackson 1161 00:84:15.340 --> 00:84:21.579 Marmalade thriller, Mr Craig Wood Field. A gritty glass go street, a 1162 00:84:21.739 --> 00:84:30.170 bleak s soundtrack, a troubled man battling the scum of the city. Samuel 1163 00:84:30.210 --> 00:84:38.449 L Jackson is private detective Robertson. He has five days to solve the Hartley's 1164 00:84:38.529 --> 00:84:47.880 mystery. He has five days to solve the sticky situation. I am loving 1165 00:84:48.239 --> 00:84:54.149 the jump on. Thank you very much. That's why I had after that. 1166 00:84:54.750 --> 00:84:56.789 You know, it was a bit of a damp square at the end, 1167 00:84:56.829 --> 00:85:01.149 but you know, I'd sold myself with the Robertson and the Heartney's. 1168 00:85:02.149 --> 00:85:11.140 I'd so third up. Presenting his Samuel Jackson Marmalade thriller. Mr Christopher commander. 1169 00:85:12.300 --> 00:85:16.180 A rainy night in London, there is a commotion, people running back 1170 00:85:16.220 --> 00:85:21.409 and forth, there is trouble on the lines, the train lines are stopped. 1171 00:85:21.729 --> 00:85:29.810 Suddenly a scream is heard. A body is found covered in Marmalade, 1172 00:85:30.090 --> 00:85:38.720 people running in every direction. Suddenly silence. Camera Pans in on a lonely 1173 00:85:38.760 --> 00:85:44.920 bear sitting in Paddington Station with a note attached to it saying please look after 1174 00:85:45.039 --> 00:85:50.189 this mother m thank you a tail. You thought you knew Samuel Jackson is 1175 00:85:50.949 --> 00:86:00.189 the killer Paddington Bear in lost or found. Brilliant, fantastic. So that 1176 00:86:00.750 --> 00:86:04.939 that just lays the pressure on me to liver. So presenting his Samuel Jackson 1177 00:86:04.979 --> 00:86:13.260 Marmalade thriller. It's me what the local marb attempts to extort old Mars Marmalade 1178 00:86:13.380 --> 00:86:17.539 Orange Farm, this plucky group of aging farm hands higher in the baddest man 1179 00:86:17.689 --> 00:86:20.970 in town, to protect their stocks. He may not like them, but 1180 00:86:21.050 --> 00:86:27.489 you could be damn sure he will turn them into elite mother in fighting team. 1181 00:86:29.369 --> 00:86:33.319 Samuel L Jackson, in one variety called the fruitiest thriller of the year. 1182 00:86:34.760 --> 00:86:43.199 Bad marmlaid farmers. Very good vine, very good. Okay, you 1183 00:86:43.239 --> 00:86:48.510 very much. Don't there was a little bit of interference on the line part 1184 00:86:48.550 --> 00:86:55.149 way through that. Yeah, I don't know, I'm just trying to keep 1185 00:86:55.149 --> 00:87:00.779 back clean writing. Brilliant. So we hope you enjoyed that. That was 1186 00:87:00.939 --> 00:87:06.140 that was good fun, if not stressful for all of us. So if 1187 00:87:06.180 --> 00:87:10.619 you enjoyed that, sound off in the comments. If you have any suggestions 1188 00:87:10.819 --> 00:87:14.380 for a future pitch battles, please leave them on our social media. Details 1189 00:87:14.420 --> 00:87:17.090 to follow at the end. And Yeah, I enjoyed no, what's done 1190 00:87:17.090 --> 00:87:26.970 much. And so that brings US screeching into the final part of the show, 1191 00:87:27.289 --> 00:87:31.760 which is our steadily expanding tracks of the trade movie score playlist. Now 1192 00:87:31.840 --> 00:87:36.359 this trucks trucks of the trade playlist is on spotify for all of you to 1193 00:87:36.479 --> 00:87:41.000 download, and we will leave a link on our episode notes. The idea 1194 00:87:41.039 --> 00:87:44.279 behind trucks of the trade is for us and you, if you you have 1195 00:87:44.350 --> 00:87:47.390 something you like and you want to contribute it for us. Is For us 1196 00:87:47.430 --> 00:87:51.510 to pick pieces of movie school music that we really like. We're trying to 1197 00:87:51.630 --> 00:87:58.069 build a a huge variety of different songs, different sounds, different

influences, 1198 00:87:58.310 --> 00:88:02.539 and hopefully find something that you enjoys. So this time out we're going to 1199 00:88:02.579 --> 00:88:08.300 start with Mr Kevin Hany again, because that's that's the order of written everybody's 1200 00:88:08.340 --> 00:88:12.060 down in on my sheet. Again, we use science here to decide things. 1201 00:88:12.460 --> 00:88:15.569 So, Kev, what is your track of the trade? This week. 1202 00:88:15.649 --> 00:88:18.130 Well, my wonderful track of the trade comes from the brilliant Jerry Goldsmith, 1203 00:88:18.850 --> 00:88:24.369 who scored Paul Verhoeven's basic instinct, and nice and simple this one. 1204 00:88:24.449 --> 00:88:28.079 It's simply the main title from basic instinct, which is great. It's one 1205 00:88:28.119 --> 00:88:30.520 thing, it's nice and it kind of load re suits very. It's very, 1206 00:88:30.520 --> 00:88:32.880 kind of very apt for the film, which is good and I am 1207 00:88:32.960 --> 00:88:36.600 hoping that obviously the young gentleman of our age, there might be a bit 1208 00:88:36.640 --> 00:88:42.550 of Light Pavlovian recognition there and I'm expecting a few people might listen to that 1209 00:88:42.630 --> 00:88:47.829 one tracks in the trade and get a little trouser tend themselves. So there 1210 00:88:47.869 --> 00:88:53.829 we go. So yeah, Terry Goldsmith's main titled from Basic Instinct. Brilliant, 1211 00:88:54.550 --> 00:88:59.619 good choice. So I'm up next and I've gone themed this week open 1212 00:88:59.699 --> 00:89:05.500 intended. I've picked a track from the best picture we're at this year's academy. 1213 00:89:05.579 --> 00:89:11.770 What's so from nomad land. It's a track called ultramare as by Ludovico 1214 00:89:11.890 --> 00:89:16.729 iron out and it's a really beautiful piece of music and actually I hadn't initially 1215 00:89:16.770 --> 00:89:19.250 picked this song for this week, but as I was listening to the film, 1216 00:89:19.489 --> 00:89:24.170 there's a moment. So shorts beginning of the film where fern is driving 1217 00:89:24.760 --> 00:89:30.800 from the north to quite quite sort of snowy cold climbs into warmer environments and 1218 00:89:30.479 --> 00:89:34.720 the music underscore in this journey. It's just really, really beautiful piece of 1219 00:89:34.760 --> 00:89:39.869 music and I stopped the film there at that to find out what it was, 1220 00:89:40.430 --> 00:89:42.829 just so I could present it this week. On tracks of the trade. 1221 00:89:42.909 --> 00:89:48.470 So that's Ludovico Iro. Noweds ultramare from the nomad soundtrack. Next up, 1222 00:89:48.670 --> 00:89:54.380 I believe that would be Mr Mr Cristpher commander, you're up next to 1223 00:89:54.500 --> 00:90:00.739 them. Yeah, I have chosen a track from a Blake Edwards film starring 1224 00:90:00.779 --> 00:90:08.489 Peter Sellers called the party. It is a track composed and conducted by Henry 1225 00:90:08.529 --> 00:90:15.529 Mancini and it is called candle light on crystal. This was a film that 1226 00:90:15.770 --> 00:90:18.729 Blake Edwards and Peter Cells were working on, sort of juror after the First 1227 00:90:18.770 --> 00:90:28.920 Pink Panther film, and it's I'll say it hasn't aged well in terms of 1228 00:90:30.079 --> 00:90:32.920 Peter Sellers may or may not be in black face, but we don't talk 1229 00:90:32.960 --> 00:90:40.510 about it. And but that being said, the party is almost an experimental 1230 00:90:40.630 --> 00:90:45.270 film and it's really funny it's got sort of the edge of what we would 1231 00:90:45.270 --> 00:90:51.859 now kind of consider awkward comedy. It's kind of and I can think of 1232 00:90:53.220 --> 00:90:58.180 like Ricky gervez comes to mind in the artice, that sort of really honest 1233 00:90:58.220 --> 00:91:01.699 kind of awkward stuff. So if you haven't watched the party, I would 1234 00:91:01.699 --> 00:91:08.810 suggest it. It's very funny. It's about a dealist actor who finds himself 1235 00:91:08.850 --> 00:91:14.130 at a party with like a list people. It's very good, excellent, 1236 00:91:14.810 --> 00:91:18.800 fantastic. And and that period of time there are a few in the sins 1237 00:91:18.880 --> 00:91:24.760 of yeah, yeah, let's set about Mickey Rooney in breaks. Tiffany's the 1238 00:91:24.840 --> 00:91:30.640 better culturally sensitive. Mm Oh no, but I think, if my if 1239 00:91:30.680 --> 00:91:35.949 my calculations are correct, that that track is now officially our oldest trucks of 1240 00:91:35.989 --> 00:91:41.949 the trade track. So I think you've beaten out the theme from bullet, 1241 00:91:42.430 --> 00:91:45.430 which is my pick, a few episodes ago, by a few months. 1242 00:91:45.430 --> 00:91:48.859 So both released in one thousand nine hundred and sixty eight. Probably Excellent. 1243 00:91:49.140 --> 00:91:54.060 So rap. To wrap up this section we have the brilliant Mr Craig Woodfield. 1244 00:91:54.100 --> 00:92:00.020 Watch your pixir right. I have gone for a track by Michael Andrews 1245 00:92:00.220 --> 00:92:05.409 from Donnie Darko. Now I knew very little about Michael Andrews when I bought 1246 00:92:05.489 --> 00:92:10.409 the soundtrack to this. Donny dark has got a real special place in my 1247 00:92:10.569 --> 00:92:15.960 heart as a film. It hearkens back to the days when you use America 1248 00:92:16.000 --> 00:92:19.960 used to get a film substantially before, you know, US over here, 1249 00:92:20.399 --> 00:92:27.319 and there was a big, almost a sixmonth gap between America's release and release 1250 00:92:27.439 --> 00:92:30.470 here, and I felt like I knew something that other people didn't with Donnie 1251 00:92:30.470 --> 00:92:35.590 Darko and that's stuck with me. I know it's you know, there's there's 1252 00:92:35.590 --> 00:92:41.029 a mass of people now that love Donnie Darko, but there's just something that 1253 00:92:41.229 --> 00:92:46.819 seems

very personal to me about this film and it's called the Tangent Universe and 1254 00:92:46.939 --> 00:92:51.659 it's just it's very haunting, very much like the film. Yeah, and 1255 00:92:53.140 --> 00:92:56.579 so that's why I picked it, because the Donnie Darko will always have a 1256 00:92:56.619 --> 00:93:00.890 special place in my heart. Fantastic and I think, if my again, 1257 00:93:00.890 --> 00:93:03.369 if my calculatians are correct, I think Michael Andrews is the first person on 1258 00:93:03.489 --> 00:93:08.489 our tracks, of the trade playlist to have a UK Christmas number one, 1259 00:93:08.970 --> 00:93:13.199 because it is version with Gary Jewels of mad world. Yes, beat, 1260 00:93:13.520 --> 00:93:16.039 beat, the darkness is Christmas time. Don't let the bell's end to Christmas 1261 00:93:16.039 --> 00:93:19.600 number one. That, yeah, okay, although I do wonder whether that 1262 00:93:19.760 --> 00:93:25.239 was the Donnie Darko influence or the fact that that same year they used the 1263 00:93:25.319 --> 00:93:30.229 song on the gears of war soundtrack, the gears of war adverty that was 1264 00:93:30.390 --> 00:93:32.270 that was on heavy rotation as well. So I think it's probably a combination 1265 00:93:32.350 --> 00:93:38.869 to to but yeah, so Michael Andrews at first UK Christmas number one entered, 1266 00:93:38.949 --> 00:93:43.699 and a great choice. Great thank also much. And so that brings 1267 00:93:43.739 --> 00:93:48.619 us to the end of yet another monkey see, monkey review podcast again, 1268 00:93:48.779 --> 00:93:53.020 and this is this is just a great fun for us. We hope you're 1269 00:93:53.060 --> 00:93:56.130 enjoying it too. If you are enjoying it, we have lots of ways 1270 00:93:56.170 --> 00:93:59.010 that you can get in touch with us. 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The more positive the 1289 00:95:19.720 --> 00:95:26.390 reviews obviously the better sort of visibility we get, so it helps other people 1290 00:95:26.430 --> 00:95:28.869 find us. You know, we do it for the love of it, 1291 00:95:29.029 --> 00:95:32.029 but if more people are listening that doesn't hurt. So if you can do 1292 00:95:32.229 --> 00:95:36.100 that for us, please do and if you've got a friend that likes films 1293 00:95:36.300 --> 00:95:41.819 and think they might need something to listen to, please recommend the listening to 1294 00:95:41.979 --> 00:95:45.340 the Monkey See, monkey review podcast. So that brings us to the end 1295 00:95:45.659 --> 00:95:53.170 of our episode. Thank you, gentlemen, so much as always, particularly, 1296 00:95:53.449 --> 00:95:59.329 you know, during these these trying times, having having this and having 1297 00:95:59.369 --> 00:96:03.399 you guys to talk to about films and to be creative, it's you know, 1298 00:96:03.479 --> 00:96:08.359 it's wonderful and it really gives me a lift that's much needed. So 1299 00:96:08.600 --> 00:96:12.000 thank you as always for your input. Your absolute legends and I love you. 1300 00:96:12.079 --> 00:96:15.920 Two bets. Thank you having it's good fun. Pleas you, I'd 1301 00:96:15.000 --> 00:96:20.430 so. Finally, all that remains for me to do is to say it's 1302 00:96:20.470 --> 00:96:24.590 the same thing say. Every right, goodbye these