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The views and opinions expressed on this podcast are entirely our own.
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We're speaking as private individuals and free thinkers, and nothing we say reflects the views, policies, or positions of our employer or any organization we're affiliated with.
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Nothing discussed on this podcast should be interpreted as professional, operational, or safety guidance, or as an official statement from any airline.
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This podcast is for informational and entertainment purposes only.
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And with that being said, welcome back, y'all.
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Jump C Chronicles.
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We are back.
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I'm Josh, JJ, Darien.
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Michelle.
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What's up, y'all?
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Well, um, we do want to address, yes, we were off and we missed our last episode.
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We do apologize.
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Life has been life and scheduling has been scheduling.
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Busy, busy, busy.
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Busy.
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Um, and as you all know, this is a flight attendant podcast.
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So all flight attendants know reroutes, reschedules happen just with our lives.
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And um, we're thankful to be back.
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I'm thankful to be back with you too.
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It's good to see y'all again.
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Yeah, yes.
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Always good to see my friends.
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Always.
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Definitely, definitely.
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And um, with that being said, two things, two housekeeping things that we want to do as far as our Brotherhood of Aviation.
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Um a few days ago before the recording of this podcast, we um lost some members of our aviation family.
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We want to take the time to honor those lost during the incident at LaGuardia's Airport, there in New York City, on March 23rd, Air Canada Express flight number 8656.
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Um, both the captain and the first officer um lost their lives because I am not going to butcher anyone's name.
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I am going to just leave it there and want uh the family, if anybody ever watches this, to know that here at Jumpsea Chronicles, we are mourning with you and our prayers go out to you during that incident.
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And uh on lighter notes, what's been going on?
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What's new?
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Give us an update.
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A lot has happened during the month of March.
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Yes.
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Well, what's new in my world is just work.
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I've been busy.
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Trips have been tripping.
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Mother Nature has been mother naturing.
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I have been rerouted.
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I've been stuck.
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Stuck is not bad.
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Stuck is actually good.
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Money bad because it means more money.
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Yes.
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That's stranded pay.
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Shout out to the stranded pay.
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Stranded pay.
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Stranded pay is so much good, so much great there within that avenue.
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Absolutely.
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But overall, life has been good.
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Um, pollen has been pollinating.
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Yeah, baby, this is in Atlanta.
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All the cars green.
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It's funny on social media I saw this meme of somebody with a picture of Atlanta, but they had a lemon uh pepper seasoning bottle hanging over it, and it was like, this is what's going on.
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Absolutely.
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But outside of that, um, I'm just happy for spring to finally be here.
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Hopefully, Mother Nature doesn't switch it on us again and give us some winter.
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Hello.
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Because we wake up to 30 and we about noon, we 80, and then about six o'clock, we back at 30.
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So you start with a sweater, you know, you end up in a sundress and you're back at a sweater.
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So, but life has been good.
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I'm happy for spring, I'm happy for you know, some changes, and hopefully, aviation is uh calming down.
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I know we're gonna talk a bit about what's going on with uh our brothers and sisters in TSA in just a moment, so I won't um touch on that because I know we will in just a moment.
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Yes, definitely.
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Darien, what you got, baby?
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Uh I started working at a funeral home.
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Yes, yes, so I am in the leadership of one of the best funeral homes, Mobile Bill Alabama.
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Shout out to CJ.
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And I'm excited, I'll be going there tomorrow to uh work a really big funeral, and I'm excited just getting back into the field of things and getting a hands-on experience, being able to help the community and serve the families and things like that.
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So I'm really excited about that.
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That's me keeping the music on the weekends, of course, all the other
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things I've been doing, but that to me I'm most excited about.
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Darion is the reason.
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No, I'm just playing he's the reason why we went.
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No, because this man is money magnet, but busy, busy, busy.
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Definitely enjoys traveling and getting his money's worth.
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But on top of that, like you got so many businesses in your hand in so many businesses.
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I applaud you, sir.
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Most strings and gone trying.
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Try to retire my mama.
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I'm ready to pull the hair that I have out.
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Listen, I feel you.
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You do it.
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You do it.
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So thank you.
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All right, Josh, what you been doing?
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What's been going?
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Well, uh, a lot has happened in the month of March.
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Month of March, I do get to celebrate my birthday.
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Yes.
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The international holiday, uh, March 10th.
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I got to celebrate that.
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Um, and March has brought transition in my life, uh, great transition.
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I am moving from here in Atlanta to Chicago.
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I'm originally from the Midwest, up near Chicago.
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Yeah.
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So I am going back home because I'm tired of commuting.
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That is something we deal with in this aviation industry.
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I have been doing it for the life of my career, and I am tired, uh, not to give away too much when it comes to airline um stuff, but it's not gonna work here for me in Atlanta uh when it comes to work and my age and me going to work.
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So I'd rather be closer to my base.
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And um Chicago is just gonna be it for me.
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And the good thing about it, I get to be closer to both my dad, mom.
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They're still up that way in um northwest Indiana, uh, that area where I'm originally from.
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So I'll be able to see them and some good eating too.
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Chicago got the best food, but the best food.
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Comfort food.
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Yes, but thank God for GLP one because that's regularly, regularly, because the way, baby.
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Chicago the way I have been eating and drinking, like I celebrated uh because of when my birthday failed, I've celebrated the following weekend and St.
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Patty's Day was everything in Chicago.
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And I loved every bit of it.
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Um, so yeah, that's what's going on in my world.
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And plus, I was thankfully, yesterday I went through recurrent.
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So I am recertified for another year flying, praise the Lord.
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Uh and yeah, that's it.
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That's all.
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That's all.
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Right.
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So I'm grateful.
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But as Michelle was pointing out, um, something that we have been dealing with for what now 60 days, maybe even longer.
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TSA um has been going through uh going through it.
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I can't even say going through something, but they've been going through it for sure.
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Um and dealing with the topic we're gonna get into today about um being a flight attendant or becoming a flight attendant, one thing you're gonna have to be aware of of what the government does because it will affect us.
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And our hearts go out to TSA specifically.
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Um and just last year we dealt with the um air traffic controllers along with TSA not getting paid.
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Thankfully, this time around, it was a partial government shutdown.
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Um but to go have to go to work, have to put on a smile.
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And not getting paid.
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And not getting paid.
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Couldn't do it.
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Because you imagine what we gotta do and we won't get paid, crashing out.
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No, not in the word crash, I'm sorry.
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But yeah, I that's no way.
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And have to deal with the crazy that they deal with people, it's just dealing with people.
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The general public and it works that don't listen, and you gotta tell the redundancy of telling them the same thing over and over again, and people and one of the crazy things that I saw, which and the reason why we also mentioned this because um, as of last night, we saw where the Senate passed a budget uh or funding budget for uh homeland security, excluding um ICE and um border patrol, but TSA would get funded.
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Um it still has to go to the House of Representatives, still has to go to the president to be signed.
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However, it's one step closer.
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One step in the right direction.
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One step in the right direction.
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However, one of the things I saw, which I don't even think um it ever dawned on me, but they were talking about if this doesn't get rectified and
more people resign, airports will shut down.
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And it's not as easy where they think or it was thought that we could send another work group into help because they don't know what they do facility.
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Exactly, they're not qualified.
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That's again, like I am not a pilot, I cannot be a pilot.
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A pilot's not a flight attendant, they cannot come do our job.
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Right.
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Like we're trained and to do two different things.
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Yes.
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Um, so and think about the training they go through.
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They go through six months of training versus six weeks of training.
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Yeah.
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And what they're supposed to be looking for in terms of not just checking IDs to ensure you're going to the right place or you're supposed to be there.
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Yeah.
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You know, they have a lot of a myriad of things that they're checking for, not just IDs to make sure, oh, yeah, you're here on the right day.
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You're going, you know, your ID matches your face.
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There's a lot that goes into that.
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So our definitely go out to them, you know, in dealing with everything because as we all know, um, as adults, the bills don't stop.
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They don't they don't care what's going on, they don't care what j shut down happening.
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Yeah, so you know luckily you are in a situation where maybe your landown uh landlord, if you have a landlord, will be understanding.
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That's right.
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Or something like Aurora, or your car insurance company will be understanding, or your mortgage company may be understanding.
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So but that's not always the case.
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Absolutely.
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And depending on where you're at, you know, in the country, they may not be, you know, as understanding.
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So we're hoping that, you know, for any TSA, you know, workers or any family members for those CSA workers that are listening, please know us here at Gem C Chronicles, our hearts and our prayers are with you during this difficult time.
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And we appreciate y'all showing up.
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Yes, we do.
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That's why when I go through, I I let them know, hey, I appreciate you being here.
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Yeah, it's the small of the small things that matter, and people they appreciate that because they don't hear it enough.
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And the part that bothers me, they're some of the most overlooked employees.
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Yeah, definitely.
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And that the the to your point, the part that bothers me the most is that I can't do anything.
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Yes, I I would I would love to.
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I would love to.
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I would love to.
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Granted, my pocket can't cover everybody.
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1,500 of y'all that might be working, but because I am having an interaction with you, I'd just be like, look, take this$20 out of my pocket, go get you something to eat.
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But we can't do that.
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And I don't think the broader public understands that too.
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Um, so yeah, that's that's our hearts definitely go out.
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Shout out to TSA.
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Yes, definitely.
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So, our topic of today, and this episode will be titled Destination Hired.
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Your flight attendant blueprint to becoming a flight attendant.
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Like, so many people ask, so many people hit our DMs when it comes to the interview, where to apply, all of those intricacies when it comes to becoming a flight attendant, and we're gonna step into it, we're gonna talk about it, we're gonna have our way, um and put it all on the table for I mean to a certain degree, granted, um this is not a end all be all.
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This is not um hiring tutorial.
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Yes, yeah, this is not all of that.
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Absolutely, and it's not a guarantee that you are going to get a job, yes, you know, with the company, but this is sort of a so you want to be a flight attendant, here are some steps that could lead you to the potential to become one of us.
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One of us, yes, definitely.
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So uh who wanna take it?
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I'll take it.
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So you want to become a flight attendant?
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Here's some things you need to know.
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You must be at least 21 years or older.
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We get this question a lot.
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I feel like I'm too old.
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There is no too old to become a flight attendant.
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If you are that mom who's put your kids all through school, they're now grown, you had that first career, that second career, you want to come.
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Come on.
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There's no max age for becoming a flight attendant.
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You must have a valid, unexpired passport.
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Yes, you need to have a clean criminal background uh check because that's gonna happen.
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You must be able to pass a drug screen.
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You need to have the physical ability to lift up to a certain amount.
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For most um carriers in the U.S., it is um at least 50 pounds.
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Now, the standards I have just mentioned, this applies for most US carriers, um, European carriers, and other carriers around the world.
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The standards may flex a bit depending on who you're applying to.
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So do make sure that you're checking the standards for your particular carrier, because again, these standards may flex.
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So, on to the resume.
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I know you want to talk about it.
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And before you go to the resume part, um also, yes, we just gave you some basic um requirements.
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Research.
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Do your research, especially if there's a company that you want to uh apply to, knowing that information, but also knowing the company will help you big time.
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So research, research, research.
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Yeah, and that's very I'm glad you mentioned that because so many people don't realize you gotta know where you're going.
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Yes.
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And interviewing for Spirit Airlines and interviewing for United is gonna be two different experiences.
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Correct.
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And they're looking for two different things.
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So make sure when you are choosing an airline, you're not just going and applying.
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Go look up the history of the airline, where they started, their mission statement, their morals and values, and what they are built upon.
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And that's gonna help you tailor your interview and your responses based upon that.
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Yes.
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But make sure you know where you're going and you're not just applying and going in there and blindsided, because then you're gonna gag.
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I'm telling you.
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Pretty much.
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I'm telling you.
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You gag.
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And then the reason why I was pointing that out and doing your research, because if you don't do your research, you are one limiting yourself from getting the job.
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And then on top of that, there are tens of thousands of people that apply to not just one company, all companies when it comes to aviation, because everybody says this is a dream job.
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I actually just found out the other day um while sitting with my mother, first time ever, I recommend doing this.
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Um, I was talking, I was like, mom, when you were in school or coming out of school, what did you desire to do?
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Never talked to my mother about this ever.
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She was like, I actually wanted to be a flight attendant.
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I was like, what?
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You never knew that.
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Ever knew that.
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Never knew.
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She was like, Yeah, but you know, because again, we didn't know anybody from that.
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And she was like, you know, my life didn't go that way.
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And she was like, when you became one, I I thought it was amazing.
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And I've suggested and tried to get my mother on um at my airline, giving her tips and trying to push her.
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Um, but again, life, she's older now, so perspectives are different.
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Um, but that blew my mind just sitting with my mom and her mention that because again, never, even when I became a flight attendant, it wasn't like she was oh, I wanted to be that, and I'm glad you are never.
00:17:01.759 --> 00:17:03.919
So I literally just found that out a few weeks ago.
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So that's awesome.
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That's awesome.
00:17:06.480 --> 00:17:06.640
Yeah.
00:17:07.200 --> 00:17:08.559
The things we learn about our parents, right?
00:17:09.359 --> 00:17:09.599
Hello?
00:17:09.839 --> 00:17:10.799
Always learning something new.
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Always.
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I love that.
00:17:12.480 --> 00:17:15.279
So now we're going to discuss the resume.
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Resume do's and don'ts.
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You should highlight the things that you are skilled in in life.
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CPR, first aid, lifeguard, and the big one, customer service.
00:17:34.079 --> 00:17:34.720
Customer service.
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We love customer service in aviation because it's what we are proficient in.
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Not to say if you're not proficient in these things, that you should run out and say, I have to get proficient in these things.
00:17:50.640 --> 00:17:57.680
You don't realize how much customer service that you have in your particular jobs.
00:17:57.920 --> 00:18:00.079
If you're a teacher, that's customer service.
00:18:00.640 --> 00:18:04.480
If you are working in a daycare, that's customer service.
00:18:04.799 --> 00:18:09.359
If you're a stay-at-home mom, that's still customer service, that's conflict resolution.
00:18:09.519 --> 00:18:15.839
If you are negotiating between your two toddlers, that is still conflict resolution.
00:18:16.160 --> 00:18:19.759
It's how you highlight it on your resume that's important.
00:18:20.640 --> 00:18:21.200
All right.
00:18:21.440 --> 00:18:30.160
So using those action verbs
when you're writing your resume, you need to learn how to tailor your resume for the job that you're applying for.
00:18:30.400 --> 00:18:35.359
Don't just use regular vernacular when you're writing your resume.
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If it takes for you to sit down with someone that is proficient in skill writing or a skill set, Google's your friend.
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And I would even to that point, because we have advanced in technology because there were days when we wanted to find somebody that could write a good resume.
00:18:54.079 --> 00:18:58.960
Like, look, I'll throw you some money, just write this or look it over, rewrite it, or whatever.
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But thank God we have AI.
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AI.
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I don't want to shout out one of them, but you know, I'm just gonna put the AI chatbots out there are great at you can just maybe not even know what you want to say, but just put the few words in it that points it in the right direction and will lay out some great things.
00:19:22.160 --> 00:19:24.720
So again, research, research, do your research.
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I also tell people you have to be very careful with the words you use because what people don't realize is these companies use this technology to where when your resume comes in through their system, they're they're looking it over for key words.
00:19:37.359 --> 00:19:55.839
And if they're not in there, they shoot it out, and that's why you get a thanks but no thanks email so quickly because they're looking for certain words on that resume that will bring attention to the fact that you may be more qualified than others because we're getting so many resumes in, so they have to find a way to filter out and find the ones that they want to reach out to.
00:19:56.000 --> 00:19:56.160
Yes.
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So make sure that you're using the right keywords, and like you said, AI will help you do that.
00:20:00.799 --> 00:20:10.240
Safety, customer service, hospitality, those are the kind of words you should have in your resume because it's it's about the main things that we do within this job at any airline.
00:20:10.480 --> 00:20:14.720
Absolutely, and I'm so glad that you touched on keywords.
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What do we do at work?
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We de-escalate, we facilitate, we serve, absolutely, we uh are checking for compliance, compliance, yep, absolutely.
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Yep, hope y'all writing these down.
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Facilitate, absolutely, yeah, ensure compliance, like you just said, like there's so many other words that are out there.
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Um, and even we're talking about the resume, let's not forget the cover letter.
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Yes, let's not forget the cover letter, which is so important.
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And please, I love you all.
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And we know everyone loves to travel.
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But I'm telling you, United, the Southwest, Delta American does not care that you love to travel.
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Please, for your success in this, do not write that on a cover letter.
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Do not state that in an interview.
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I'm just saying.
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The quickest way to be like, no, we're the quickest way to be especially in the interview, because when they put that shit in the show.
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Just shown the door.
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That's pretty obvious.
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And we know you like to travel.
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It's very obvious, but it also, again, in this industry, just as much as we have um high um seekers of employment, the people that apply, there's also a high turnover rate because people come in with the wrong intent.
00:21:51.920 --> 00:21:55.920
They come in for the benefits, they want the pen of the flying benefits.
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I'm just telling you, not realizing even which one thing I also Found out.
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Um, with our job, we can have flexibility trying to go apply for like a hotel job as a part-time thing.
00:22:09.200 --> 00:22:17.599
They will majority of the time be turning us away because they look at us just wanting to come for the benefits of having a hotel.
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Right.
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And so they're like, oh, they won't be here long.
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Let's absolutely too crazy.
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Right.
00:22:24.000 --> 00:22:25.200
Um that's so true.
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Right.
00:22:25.759 --> 00:22:30.160
So, no, but in that industry, that's what they look for.
00:22:30.240 --> 00:22:39.440
In our industry, we I'm telling you, those recruiters, the first sign of hearing, I love to travel, they're just thinking like they're coming with the wrong intent.
00:22:39.680 --> 00:22:44.000
They're really not trying to come and make this a lifelong career.
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We probably gonna see them leave in less than a year.
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Absolutely.
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Put them either at the bottom of the pile or like you said, thank you.
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But no, thank you.
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But no, thank you.
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And it's so cliche they like be original.
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Yes.
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Be original.
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Absolutely.
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Come in and come in a room and give them a response they've never heard before.
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They're like, oh wow, he's really in, he's really wanting.
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You know, that's what they're looking for.
00:23:06.000 --> 00:23:16.000
Because if imagine being a
recruiter, you know, and you are interviewing four, three, four hundred, five hundred people in a week, and you hear the I want to I love to travel.
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It's my dream job because I love to travel.
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You every time you hear that you can be like, Oh, here we go, and got another one.
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Here we go.
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No originality, no uniqueness.
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That's gonna get old real quick.
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Absolutely, you know what I mean?
00:23:26.960 --> 00:23:28.640
So absolutely it does.
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So the one thing that definitely does not belong on your flight attendant resume is colored paper.
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Leave that for the art projects for the children.
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It should be on white paper.
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White paper is still the standard or lighter colored paper.
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Times new Roman.
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Uh absolutely.
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Double space, the same plain resume.
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Just keep it plain.
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There's no need to feel like I have to stand out, so I'm gonna come in with this magenta-colored paper because I want them to remember.
00:24:04.079 --> 00:24:11.920
They will remember you by what you say, by what you said, or what you stated on your resume.
00:24:12.400 --> 00:24:17.599
You don't need to put any photos unless it's requested by that particular airline.
00:24:18.720 --> 00:24:20.079
Keep it simple.
00:24:20.720 --> 00:24:22.079
These four pages, yeah.
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Four page.
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Absolutely.
00:24:30.240 --> 00:24:31.519
Like they're reading a book.
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On your resume.
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There's no need to do that.
00:24:33.759 --> 00:24:39.920
You need to keep it, you know, as concise and job specific for your particular career.
00:24:40.240 --> 00:24:42.880
You're trying to get a job, you're not trying to write a novel.
00:24:43.119 --> 00:24:43.359
Correct.
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And keep it relevant.
00:24:45.839 --> 00:24:47.759
Tenure is what they need.
00:24:47.839 --> 00:24:51.119
And if you're not, you're 21, you might not have 10 years of job history.
00:24:51.279 --> 00:24:54.000
Now, if you do, that might be another conversation.
00:24:54.160 --> 00:24:59.920
You may need to get to those that are specific to the aviation career that you're applying to.
00:25:00.160 --> 00:25:04.559
Now, if you're 40 or 50, you may have had quite a few jobs.
00:25:04.960 --> 00:25:11.680
Keep it to 10 years because that's most companies are going only back 10 years to look at your job history.
00:25:11.920 --> 00:25:15.119
So you want to keep it concise to what you're applying to.
00:25:15.359 --> 00:25:26.319
And to piggyback off that, what's very important because it actually helps one of my friends, make sure that your timelines on your resume with the start date and end date of your different jobs lines up correctly.
00:25:26.400 --> 00:25:37.839
Because if you place on there that I worked at Best Buy from July 5th to December 20th, but then they go do your background check and they realize that those dates were not correct.
00:25:38.000 --> 00:25:38.960
Guess what happens?
00:25:39.279 --> 00:25:43.440
Your file goes in the trash because they're looking for accuracy.
00:25:43.920 --> 00:25:48.880
And it happened to my friend, and he didn't even realize that oh, the dates didn't, and he ended up losing the position.
00:25:49.039 --> 00:25:49.519
Oh wow.
00:25:49.680 --> 00:25:56.799
So be very careful with call your jobs, call those past jobs, they'll have it on file so you can get those exact dates because the accuracy is extremely important.
00:25:57.119 --> 00:25:58.400
I'm so glad that you mentioned that.
00:25:58.480 --> 00:26:05.519
And for those who don't know how to do that, Social Security office has all of your job history.
00:26:06.079 --> 00:26:06.240
Yes.
00:26:06.480 --> 00:26:10.160
Because we think about it when you are applied, you also have to do you have to put your social in.
00:26:10.240 --> 00:26:14.319
So if you don't know, here is a fight attendant tip of the day.
00:26:14.640 --> 00:26:18.400
Even Uber, even if you're doing Uber, that has to be the background.
00:26:19.039 --> 00:26:21.279
Everything, yes, everything needs to match.
00:26:21.519 --> 00:26:23.680
So fight attendant tip of the day.
00:26:23.839 --> 00:26:30.799
If y'all don't know, if you have never checked, go to the Social Security or you can check it online.
00:26:30.960 --> 00:26:31.359
Yes.
00:26:31.599 --> 00:26:34.079
Every single job you've had since you were 18.
00:26:34.400 --> 00:26:35.039
You just dropped a gym.
00:26:35.680 --> 00:26:36.400
You just dropped a gym.
00:26:36.640 --> 00:26:37.599
Because a lot of people don't know that.
00:26:37.759 --> 00:26:38.799
So a lot of people don't know.
00:26:39.039 --> 00:26:44.240
You need to check and make sure that everything is accurate because you never know when you may need to apply for a job.
00:26:44.400 --> 00:26:49.599
And the last thing you want to find out is that what's there is not matching here.
00:26:50.000 --> 00:26:51.359
And they're not gonna call you like, oh, okay, you can't do it.
00:26:54.720 --> 00:26:56.880
Do it now before you have to do it later.
00:26:57.279 --> 00:27:00.559
Especially with everything that's going on in the country right now.
00:27:01.119 --> 00:27:04.480
You do want to make sure your eyes are dotted and your T's are crossed.
00:27:04.559 --> 00:27:04.720
Yes.
00:27:04.960 --> 00:27:06.640
Even if you're not gonna be a flight attendant.
00:27:06.880 --> 00:27:07.119
Absolutely.
00:27:07.279 --> 00:27:09.279
I didn't know that uh that tip.
00:27:09.920 --> 00:27:11.599
So, yeah, that's really, really good.
00:27:11.680 --> 00:27:12.319
Thank you, Michelle.
00:27:12.799 --> 00:27:13.359
No problem.
00:27:13.599 --> 00:27:17.279
So now we're gonna go on to now you got the resume.
00:27:17.599 --> 00:27:19.759
Now you know what you need to know.
00:27:20.400 --> 00:27:21.519
How do we interview?
00:27:22.079 --> 00:27:24.640
So, what are we looking for in that interview?
00:27:24.880 --> 00:27:26.799
We've got two types of interviews.
00:27:26.960 --> 00:27:31.359
One that is relatively new to aviation, video interviews.
00:27:31.599 --> 00:27:33.279
How do we show up in a video interview?
00:27:33.440 --> 00:27:34.480
What should we look like?
00:27:34.960 --> 00:27:38.960
Should we have on t-shirt and jeans or or or have be half dressed?
00:27:39.119 --> 00:27:45.200
No, you want to make sure that you are fully dressed, professional, and have on full clothes.
00:27:46.000 --> 00:27:46.720
Please don't come up.
00:27:46.960 --> 00:27:49.519
And go ahead, go ahead, go ahead.
00:27:49.759 --> 00:27:50.319
Say it just.
00:27:54.240 --> 00:27:54.960
Yeah, yeah, the same.
00:27:55.599 --> 00:28:09.200
Look, stuff happens, and you would not want to be the one that, you know, the fighter broke out and you jump up and all your business out on the street because one majority of those interviews are recorded.
00:28:09.279 --> 00:28:09.839
Yes.
00:28:10.079 --> 00:28:16.319
And like, yes, the camera fall on and jumping up.
00:28:16.400 --> 00:28:18.079
You can jump up and knock the camera down.
00:28:18.240 --> 00:28:25.359
Like, literally, you want to be fully dressed for these interviews.
00:28:25.680 --> 00:28:29.359
Um make sure your your teeth are brushed.
00:28:29.519 --> 00:28:32.400
Like, because you're smiling and it's a close-up.
00:28:32.559 --> 00:28:35.759
Like this camera is gets close up on us and stuff like that.
00:28:35.839 --> 00:29:08.400
Like, certain things you kind of want to check out before going on camera, just because that person is not like literally sitting in the room with you, you are still being sized up and down because majority of the time they're recorded, so not only that per person you're speaking to uh can go back and reference, but other people will be going to look at that later, be seeing it and and looking at you up and down and picking out things that you might not saw.
00:29:08.480 --> 00:29:16.240
So it's always great to yes, you're going to interview instead of getting your car going to a place you're still at home, do it.
00:29:16.400 --> 00:29:18.000
And make sure look yourself over.
00:29:18.240 --> 00:29:23.759
Another big thing that I noticed I have that tell some of my friends, make sure your background is clear.
00:29:24.079 --> 00:29:37.200
Please make sure also that you try to be at home alone because if your kids running around in the background or you got a TV on in the other room or something going on, you got chicken frying on the on the stove.
00:29:37.839 --> 00:29:40.960
Please, if you can, make sure
you have a clear background.
00:29:41.039 --> 00:29:46.000
You're someone with great lighting and there's no distractions because they will pick up on everything.
00:29:46.240 --> 00:29:46.880
Absolutely.
00:29:47.119 --> 00:30:01.039
And even from that standpoint, they're also looking at if you have a distracting background going on, you won't be able to fully give to the job.
00:30:01.440 --> 00:30:08.079
You will have so much distracting that you can't even narrow in on what you're applying for.
00:30:08.319 --> 00:30:09.039
So yeah.
00:30:09.519 --> 00:30:10.559
And smile away.
00:30:10.720 --> 00:30:12.480
Smile until your cheeks hurt.
00:30:12.640 --> 00:30:14.799
Yes, smile, smile, oh, smile.
00:30:15.279 --> 00:30:16.480
Absolutely.
00:30:16.799 --> 00:30:21.920
So now that we've done the video, how do we show up for a face-to-face?
00:30:23.119 --> 00:30:34.720
At a face-to-face, smiling, be engaging, and show up your absolute best self, and then add even more on top of that.
00:30:34.960 --> 00:30:38.960
They're interviewing you from the moment you leave your car.
00:30:39.519 --> 00:30:47.200
And a lot of a lot of airlines, um, they do like these, as I call it, cattle calls.
00:30:47.519 --> 00:30:48.000
Yes.
00:30:48.319 --> 00:31:01.039
Because you will go into a room of 200 people from around the world, and you might sometimes you think you're talking to somebody that is just a random somebody, but no.
00:31:01.200 --> 00:31:10.960
It's a recruiter, it's a recruiter or somebody out there mixing and mingling and seeing if you're going to shine, seeing if you're going to be a social butterfly and you can turn on.
00:31:11.039 --> 00:31:13.839
Because I will give you hands-on tip about Joshua.
00:31:14.000 --> 00:31:15.359
I am actually an introvert.
00:31:15.519 --> 00:31:20.480
I keep to myself, but when it comes to work, I know how to turn on, baby.
00:31:20.720 --> 00:31:21.680
Because you have to.
00:31:21.759 --> 00:31:23.920
This, this, this is my bread and butter.
00:31:24.079 --> 00:31:28.319
So I know when to turn on, turn on, but I know when to turn off.
00:31:28.559 --> 00:31:33.759
Because one one day we'll maybe talk about cold switching, but that's for another topic, another topic.
00:31:33.839 --> 00:31:34.319
But go ahead.
00:31:34.640 --> 00:31:41.039
And I also I noticed one thing, I know I interviewed years ago, but it still remains true.
00:31:41.200 --> 00:31:43.440
There's times where you're gonna be, like you said, in a group.
00:31:43.680 --> 00:31:46.160
Find ways to stand out, but stand out in the right way.
00:31:46.319 --> 00:31:46.640
Correct.
00:31:46.799 --> 00:31:56.720
Um, for me, when I was interviewing, it was like 14 of us in this room along this big old round table, and they were talking to us about what to expect for the day, and then they asked, said, Does anyone have any questions?
00:31:56.880 --> 00:31:57.920
Everybody walking around like, no.
00:31:58.000 --> 00:32:06.240
I was like, I asked
the question because I want you to know that I am serious about this and I'm interested, and I I want to make sure that I find out everything I need to know about the job that I'm applying for.
00:32:06.319 --> 00:32:06.480
Yes.
00:32:06.640 --> 00:32:07.839
So that I'm well informed.
00:32:08.000 --> 00:32:10.720
And I was one of the only ones that asked a question.
00:32:10.960 --> 00:32:17.680
Do not be afraid to be the one to raise your hand and ask a question in the group because it shows that you are truly invested in what you are going for.
00:32:18.160 --> 00:32:21.359
Um, also, you don't have to be the loudest one, you know.
00:32:21.759 --> 00:32:27.759
Going around to be a social butterfly is fine, but you don't have to be loud and and you know, doing too much because they're paying attention to that.
00:32:27.920 --> 00:32:33.359
Because at the end of the day, these people are there to see would I want to work beside them on a plane for three or four days?
00:32:33.599 --> 00:32:33.920
Correct.
00:32:34.079 --> 00:32:36.480
Is this someone one I want to sit on the jump seat with?
00:32:36.640 --> 00:32:36.960
Correct.
00:32:37.119 --> 00:32:41.920
Will they get along with other flight attendants and captains and and other um co-workers within the company?
00:32:42.079 --> 00:32:44.559
So make sure that you're standing out in the right ways.
00:32:44.880 --> 00:32:45.039
Yeah.
00:32:45.200 --> 00:32:48.079
Because just I I think you can speak to this, Michelle.
00:32:48.559 --> 00:32:56.079
Um, not only recruiters, but flight attendants are a lot of times in the interview process.
00:32:56.640 --> 00:32:58.319
So yeah.
00:32:58.960 --> 00:33:08.400
And not only that, how are you presenting yourself with smiles, asking questions, and eye contact?
00:33:09.279 --> 00:33:11.279
Eye contact is so important.
00:33:11.519 --> 00:33:13.440
Are you the one that's shying away?
00:33:13.599 --> 00:33:17.920
Or are you the one giving eye contact and engaging in people?
00:33:18.240 --> 00:33:24.400
Because unfortunately, we have to be the ones that give that confidence in eye contact with the passengers.
00:33:24.720 --> 00:33:33.920
Can they instill that confidence in you that if a situation happens on board, are you the one that's gonna run to the fire or run away from the fire?
00:33:34.160 --> 00:33:38.000
Are you running to the emergency or running away from the emergency?
00:33:38.640 --> 00:33:45.279
We have to have confidence so that the recruiters know that this is the one that I can depend on.
00:33:45.599 --> 00:33:51.279
Or are you gonna be the one that's gonna be in the background that's not going to be able to assist?
00:33:51.359 --> 00:33:56.480
So we have to know that I can trust on that one to be the leader in the room.
00:33:56.720 --> 00:34:03.200
Because when the recruiters are away, who is who is gonna be the one that's going to be able to take charge of that?
00:34:03.759 --> 00:34:05.839
Sometimes over 200 people.
00:34:06.319 --> 00:34:10.559
Can you be the one that can potentially save everyone?
00:34:11.599 --> 00:34:18.159
It may, you know, come to the point when you are it, everyone else is, you know, hurt or injured.
00:34:18.400 --> 00:34:19.519
Can I depend on you?
00:34:19.679 --> 00:34:20.000
Yeah.
00:34:20.159 --> 00:34:24.400
So your presence in that room, what what kind of energy do you give off?
00:34:24.559 --> 00:34:26.079
What kind of vibe do you give off?
00:34:26.239 --> 00:34:36.880
You don't need to be the loud loudest, like Darien said, but you have to be the one that I can go, there's something about this one that I want to speak to, that I want to have a conversation with.
00:34:37.119 --> 00:34:37.599
Yes.
00:34:37.840 --> 00:34:46.639
And one thing I will say whether you're male, female, gay, straight, be sweet.
00:34:47.679 --> 00:34:48.159
Absolutely.
00:34:48.400 --> 00:34:48.800
Be kind.
00:34:49.360 --> 00:34:50.000
Be kind.
00:34:50.239 --> 00:34:50.559
Yes.
00:34:51.199 --> 00:34:56.960
That will go so much further than you think.
00:34:58.000 --> 00:34:59.679
And it's it's noticeable.
00:34:59.840 --> 00:35:12.719
If you're not a a kind person, if something and to your point about the eye contact thing, there are a lot of times where we have passengers sitting on the plane and they are staring us down.
00:35:13.360 --> 00:35:20.320
But what we don't know sometimes, and we'll find out later via customers writing in.
00:35:20.480 --> 00:35:28.000
Um I was a nervous flyer, but I was looking to the flight attendant for that reassurance.
00:35:28.239 --> 00:35:33.920
That reassurance or making sure if they look cool, everything is if everything is fine.
00:35:34.079 --> 00:35:34.320
Yes.
00:35:34.559 --> 00:35:36.480
They're not looking at me nervous and stuff.
00:35:36.559 --> 00:35:37.360
Don't get me wrong.
00:35:37.599 --> 00:35:38.320
Because it's times.
00:35:38.559 --> 00:35:43.119
Getting getting stared down while you're sitting on a jump seat can't be annoying.
00:35:43.760 --> 00:35:51.599
But on the flip side, knowing that we are calming somebody and we ain't even saying a word.
00:35:52.719 --> 00:35:57.920
That, to your point, your vibe, what you exude, is important.
00:35:58.559 --> 00:36:13.039
That's why a lot of times the companies do set up where you're in a room with 200 people to see how you come off your flow, your movement in a room being around other people.
00:36:13.199 --> 00:36:16.559
Because our job is being around other people.
00:36:16.800 --> 00:36:17.360
Hundreds of people.
00:36:17.840 --> 00:36:21.280
This is not where oh, I'm about to be a flight attendant and go sit in the back.
00:36:21.599 --> 00:36:21.920
No.
00:36:22.880 --> 00:36:27.280
99% of the time we are customer facing.
00:36:27.840 --> 00:36:28.159
Yes.
00:36:28.480 --> 00:36:29.840
Passenger facing.
00:36:30.000 --> 00:36:49.360
And and our customers are a lot of times, well, not a lot of times, majority are passengers, but we're
also customer facing with each other, customer facing with our supervisors, uh operations, TSA, like we're customer-facing in all of those avenues, not just on the plane.
00:36:49.599 --> 00:36:54.320
So again, be sweet, be kind, because it goes a long way.
00:36:54.559 --> 00:37:09.199
Because when you put them wings on and you in that uniform, whether you know anything about bags, where gait is, where Uber picks up.
00:37:09.440 --> 00:37:10.079
They're gonna ask you.
00:37:10.320 --> 00:37:11.519
They're going to ask you.
00:37:11.840 --> 00:37:13.119
We're like walking information desks.
00:37:13.440 --> 00:37:17.440
And you can't just come off like facial expressions.
00:37:17.519 --> 00:37:20.320
Can't like you, you can't do that.
00:37:20.559 --> 00:37:21.519
You have to.
00:37:22.400 --> 00:37:23.280
I'm sorry.
00:37:23.440 --> 00:37:27.920
I first time at this airport, I I do apologize, but let me see if I can absolutely help you.
00:37:28.559 --> 00:37:30.960
Or bottle signs, like, yes.
00:37:31.199 --> 00:37:35.840
There are days where I just be like, no, I don't know.
00:37:36.000 --> 00:37:41.280
I'm not saying, but you know, there we have to still be kind.
00:37:42.320 --> 00:37:48.239
And in the interview process is where you have to shine in that.
00:37:48.400 --> 00:37:49.920
You have to get the job.
00:37:50.079 --> 00:37:54.559
So you have to, like you say it, do it, and then some.
00:37:54.719 --> 00:37:55.360
So yeah.
00:37:55.599 --> 00:37:56.079
Yeah.
00:37:56.320 --> 00:38:05.679
So so now we've gotten to, you know, we're in the interview, you've made it past the video interview, you've made it past the group interviews.
00:38:05.760 --> 00:38:07.599
So now you're in front of that recruiter.
00:38:08.159 --> 00:38:10.559
What questions are you expecting?
00:38:11.920 --> 00:38:17.039
Most of the time, they want to know about how you can handle certain situations.
00:38:17.280 --> 00:38:18.239
Yes, scenarios.
00:38:18.639 --> 00:38:27.920
And, you know, a lot of them are scenario-based questions, but then we get to the tell me about a time when questions.
00:38:28.320 --> 00:38:31.039
Those are the questions where you have to dig into yourself.
00:38:31.199 --> 00:38:38.880
Those are not answers that you're gonna find on Google, they're not answers that you know, AI is gonna give you because they're all canned answers.
00:38:38.960 --> 00:38:46.000
That's where you dig into yourself, and you have to be able to answer that question on the fly.
00:38:46.239 --> 00:38:47.760
Yes, so to speak.
00:38:48.000 --> 00:38:54.559
You know, and I love this question because it's going to be, you know, different for every single person.
00:38:54.800 --> 00:38:59.519
Tell me about a time where you went above and beyond for a customer.
00:39:00.000 --> 00:39:03.840
And I love that because everyone's answer is gonna be different.
00:39:04.239 --> 00:39:11.119
Whether you were with a customer at your job, whether, like I said, if you're stay-at-home mom, your customer is your child.
00:39:11.280 --> 00:39:16.880
So, what did you do to stop that toddler from screaming, having a meltdown in the store?
00:39:17.119 --> 00:39:19.440
That is still your customer, so to speak.
00:39:19.599 --> 00:39:22.000
What did you do, mom, to stop that?
00:39:22.159 --> 00:39:28.000
I mean, I know you hopefully didn't beat the child in the store, but what did you do to stop that screaming toddler?
00:39:28.079 --> 00:39:32.000
Yeah, you know, yeah, that is specific to your situation.
00:39:32.559 --> 00:39:37.199
Or if you were met with an angry customer at the restaurant, what did you do?
00:39:37.360 --> 00:39:38.639
How did you resolve that?
00:39:38.880 --> 00:39:42.880
So everyone's answer for that is different because every single person is different.
00:39:43.039 --> 00:39:43.440
Correct.
00:39:43.599 --> 00:39:45.519
So, how can you answer that question?
00:39:45.599 --> 00:39:47.440
And we're not gonna answer that question for now.
00:39:48.400 --> 00:39:57.280
It's gonna be a lot a lot of that because at the end of the day, most of your experiences in this field are gonna be with customers then de-escalating or figuring out and problem solving.
00:39:57.440 --> 00:40:00.000
Yeah, oh my god, my flight, I'm gonna miss my connection.
00:40:00.079 --> 00:40:00.960
Can you help me find it?
00:40:01.440 --> 00:40:03.519
And they're, you know, panicking.
00:40:03.679 --> 00:40:06.400
It's your job to let me calm you, everything's gonna be okay.
00:40:06.480 --> 00:40:10.000
We're gonna figure out we're gonna I can look in this device and see what time you have, how much time you have.
00:40:10.079 --> 00:40:11.920
And if not, the companies can reroute.
00:40:12.000 --> 00:40:17.920
But our job is handling different situations, people in different moods and different attitudes and different things.
00:40:18.079 --> 00:40:30.159
And so you're gonna have a lot of scenario-based questions because they need to know when we're in the thick of things and we're delayed or there's an issue, yeah, how are you gonna handle it based upon your experience in your other positions?
00:40:30.480 --> 00:40:36.400
And if even if you can't think of a time because you're nervous, think off the dome, make something up, make it sound good.
00:40:36.800 --> 00:40:38.960
Because sometimes you just you freeze up.
00:40:39.920 --> 00:40:40.880
But freestyle.
00:40:41.679 --> 00:40:42.480
But make sure it sounds good.
00:40:42.559 --> 00:40:50.239
And I tell people all the time when you're dealing with scenario-based questions, make sure that the very end of your um question or your answer, there's a resolve.
00:40:50.400 --> 00:40:53.199
Yes, that you don't leave them hanging.
00:40:53.599 --> 00:40:57.280
Yes, that you made the situation better, and the situation was resolved.
00:40:57.440 --> 00:41:01.920
Yeah, that's gonna help them know you know how to problem solve, which is the main thing that we do in this
industry.
00:41:02.159 --> 00:41:05.599
And always before you answer, don't just start speaking.
00:41:05.760 --> 00:41:08.559
You take a moment, breathe, take a moment.
00:41:08.800 --> 00:41:09.280
Thank you.
00:41:09.519 --> 00:41:20.559
Think about what you're saying before you start talking, breathe, take a moment because it lets your recruiter know that you are actually thinking about an answer that you're not ready right there.
00:41:21.039 --> 00:41:21.599
Or rehearsed.
00:41:21.920 --> 00:41:27.599
Okay, and think about your answer and then answer it.
00:41:27.760 --> 00:41:33.039
Because there's no rush, they don't put you on the time and say, okay, go answer.
00:41:33.599 --> 00:41:53.360
Because even with the word I heard you uh you say about it's not rehearsed, because at the end of the day, they're also looking to know that you can in a moment's notice, you can be calm, cool, and collected in stressful situations.
00:41:53.840 --> 00:41:54.000
Absolutely.
00:41:54.320 --> 00:41:56.639
Interviews are stressful situations, period.
00:41:57.360 --> 00:42:08.559
But that you are able to because we deal with emergency situations, and you have to one think on the fly, but also be able to be calm enough.
00:42:08.800 --> 00:42:16.880
I just went through this, like I said, with recurrent yesterday, stressful situations, but you still have to be able to recall.
00:42:17.280 --> 00:42:29.679
And one thing I did continue to hear even in recurrent was slow down because a lot of times we be ready to rush and get our commands correct and everything and think about everything.
00:42:30.000 --> 00:42:34.639
But I kept hearing slow down, think about it.
00:42:34.960 --> 00:42:39.360
So you have to do that, especially in the interview process.
00:42:39.599 --> 00:42:47.760
Another question they ask you when it comes to problem solving is how to handle conflict with a co-worker.
00:42:48.079 --> 00:42:48.400
Yes.
00:42:49.039 --> 00:42:59.840
Because at the end of the day, you are on this plane and traveling around for three, four days with the same three, four, five global nine, twelve flight attendants.
00:43:00.000 --> 00:43:04.800
And there's a lot of different personalities, a lot of different attitudes, a lot of different work ethics, some lazy, some not.
00:43:04.960 --> 00:43:06.719
There's a lot of things, some bossy ones.
00:43:06.800 --> 00:43:09.280
You can have the ones who think they're the lead and they're really not.
00:43:09.519 --> 00:43:17.280
So you have to know how to deal with so many different personality traits and things like that, and know how to handle people professionally.
00:43:17.599 --> 00:43:22.480
And if there is an issue between coworkers, how to resolve it in the most professional way.
00:43:22.719 --> 00:43:23.039
Yes.
00:43:23.280 --> 00:43:28.639
And when those things happen in your current career, write them down.
00:43:29.519 --> 00:43:35.440
Because sometimes sitting and trying to remember what did I do at this job?
00:43:35.519 --> 00:43:36.159
What happened?
00:43:36.320 --> 00:43:37.360
It's hard to do.
00:43:37.840 --> 00:43:41.599
And then you are stuck in a situation where you're making something up on the fly.
00:43:41.840 --> 00:43:49.519
If you dealt with a difficult situation, write it down unless you know for a fact you're going to remember that.
00:43:49.679 --> 00:43:49.760
Right.
00:43:50.239 --> 00:43:52.159
We've all dealt with some type of difficult situation or something like that.
00:43:52.559 --> 00:43:57.519
And I love the word that I I don't think we've used this yet is the word diffuse.
00:43:57.679 --> 00:43:57.840
Yes.
00:43:58.400 --> 00:44:07.440
How can you diffuse the This situation, whether it's you know, diffusing it with a coworker, diffusing it on the plane, passenger situations happen all the time.
00:44:07.519 --> 00:44:12.800
Well, they're in my seat, they took my bag space, their arm is touching my arm for the middle arm rest.
00:44:13.280 --> 00:44:19.039
You know, the most trivial things that you think that you know is not a potential conflict.
00:44:19.199 --> 00:44:23.360
How can I diffuse this situation so that it doesn't escalate?
00:44:23.840 --> 00:44:24.880
We deal in that.
00:44:25.039 --> 00:44:32.320
That is almost 50 to 60 percent of our job is diffusing situations before they escalate into something bigger.
00:44:32.639 --> 00:44:32.960
Correct.
00:44:33.679 --> 00:44:35.440
Can you diffuse this situation?
00:44:35.679 --> 00:44:38.320
That is almost always what we're doing.
00:44:38.480 --> 00:44:39.440
Yes, most of the time.
00:44:39.519 --> 00:44:41.199
If we're not serving, we're diffusing.
00:44:41.360 --> 00:44:45.599
Yes, problem solving, and then you it takes a certain level of patience, absolutely.
00:44:46.079 --> 00:44:57.119
And I'm still working on that, but in and I'm yeah, it takes a certain level of patience, and you gotta know, which is important to show an interview, how to communicate the proper communication styles, it's all about the delivery.
00:44:57.280 --> 00:45:04.320
And I've I've experienced a flight attendant saying something to me and just the the worst level of delivery, and I'm like, excuse me.
00:45:04.880 --> 00:45:10.800
It's all about how you say things to people, which is either gonna cause a reaction in a positive way or a negative way.
00:45:10.880 --> 00:45:11.119
Yes.
00:45:11.440 --> 00:45:20.159
It's all about communicating the effectively with your co-workers, with the passengers, with everybody to make sure that people are always respected at the end of the day.
00:45:20.320 --> 00:45:20.559
Correct.
00:45:20.719 --> 00:45:22.480
So that's a cut one, Darren.
00:45:22.719 --> 00:45:27.280
Yeah, you gotta be able to show and reassure them in your interview that you have great communication skills.
00:45:27.360 --> 00:45:27.840
Yes, absolutely.
00:45:28.079 --> 00:45:36.400
And you know, also to take lead when it when you need to and and and communicate
correctly when taking lead to make sure things happen because there's gonna be situations where you have to.
00:45:36.480 --> 00:45:41.440
I've I've been on a plane in a medical emergency, and the other flight attendants, they just froze up.
00:45:43.199 --> 00:45:48.800
It's like okay, y'all go you gotta take it, you gotta, yeah, hey, I need you to go up to the front.
00:45:48.880 --> 00:45:55.360
I need you to go get this to leadership and to but know how to communicate correctly and say things like, hey, I know you freeze back, hey, get us together.
00:45:55.440 --> 00:45:56.320
I need you to go do this.
00:45:56.400 --> 00:45:57.920
Yeah, because we gotta make this happen.
00:45:58.000 --> 00:45:58.800
This is what we're here to do.
00:45:58.880 --> 00:45:59.920
We've been trained for this.
00:46:00.239 --> 00:46:01.840
So communication is important.
00:46:02.079 --> 00:46:02.559
Absolutely.
00:46:02.719 --> 00:46:04.960
And and along with communication, body language.
00:46:05.119 --> 00:46:05.840
Yes, go on.
00:46:06.079 --> 00:46:06.559
Body language.
00:46:06.639 --> 00:46:14.719
Like I was talking about dealing being in uniform and passengers coming up with you, coming up to you about any and everything.
00:46:15.119 --> 00:46:18.639
You just can't like remain reproachable.
00:46:19.519 --> 00:46:21.679
I am one that has RBF.
00:46:21.840 --> 00:46:27.039
If you don't know what RBF is, research it or ask me if you see me.
00:46:28.400 --> 00:46:29.280
I have that.
00:46:29.519 --> 00:46:37.679
And so sometimes I have to be mindful because my thought and my my thoughts and my face sometimes are very in sync.
00:46:38.000 --> 00:46:46.559
And I have to be mindful to slow myself down because what I'm thinking sometimes comes off on this old face of mine.
00:46:46.880 --> 00:46:54.719
And for those that are not already flight attendants, you have to be mindful of that when interviewing.
00:46:54.960 --> 00:46:56.239
That's one thing I miss about COVID.
00:46:56.559 --> 00:46:58.719
When I can wear a mask, people are gonna see my face.
00:46:59.920 --> 00:47:03.920
Yes, I was you do this, you can look at any guy when they don't know what's going on.
00:47:06.639 --> 00:47:08.400
Oh my god, hated them beloved them.
00:47:08.480 --> 00:47:09.119
Yeah.
00:47:09.920 --> 00:47:10.960
But yeah.
00:47:11.280 --> 00:47:16.400
So now that we've gotten past the interview, yay, you made it past that.
00:47:17.039 --> 00:47:18.880
What did I just sign up for?
00:47:19.039 --> 00:47:25.280
They sent you this big huge packet of information and it all looks like alphabet soup, and you're trying to go.
00:47:25.519 --> 00:47:31.760
Wait, they need me to go someplace for six weeks, and there is no paycheck.
00:47:33.039 --> 00:47:34.239
What am I supposed to do?
00:47:35.119 --> 00:47:39.519
First of all, start crying because now I got six weeks, no pay.
00:47:39.840 --> 00:47:40.559
What do you mean?
00:47:40.719 --> 00:47:41.599
How do I live?
00:47:42.159
--> 00:47:43.199
What does all this mean?
00:47:43.360 --> 00:47:44.880
I have to learn all this at one time.
00:47:45.039 --> 00:47:46.320
First of all, breathe.
00:47:46.960 --> 00:47:47.920
No, you don't.
00:47:49.679 --> 00:47:53.760
Most trainings are four to six weeks, depending on your particular airline.
00:47:53.840 --> 00:47:55.280
That's why it's important to research.
00:47:55.599 --> 00:47:57.199
Some eight weeks, some are eight weeks, too.
00:47:57.440 --> 00:47:57.599
Yeah.
00:47:58.000 --> 00:47:58.639
Research is important.
00:47:59.280 --> 00:48:03.599
Depending on your yep, that's why it's important to know your particular airline.
00:48:04.000 --> 00:48:11.920
Um, some airlines do uh provide a stipend for when you are in training, so that you're not completely without a paycheck.
00:48:12.079 --> 00:48:12.960
Most don't.
00:48:13.280 --> 00:48:24.559
Um, if you are successful in training, you get this cute little stipend or paycheck at the end of training, but you need to complete all four to eight weeks of training.
00:48:24.719 --> 00:48:30.239
Um, some provide you a stipend while you're in training for food amenities depending on who you're with.
00:48:30.639 --> 00:48:31.840
Um, you do get that.
00:48:32.079 --> 00:48:33.119
And free lodging too.
00:48:33.360 --> 00:48:36.800
And free lodging depending again on who you are training with.
00:48:38.159 --> 00:48:43.199
For those of you who think, oh, I must be based in XYZ City, you do not get a choice.
00:48:44.000 --> 00:48:50.239
If you go in and you say, I can only be based in Los Angeles because that is where I live, congratulations, you're not.
00:48:50.320 --> 00:48:51.679
You're gonna be based in Salt Lake City.
00:48:52.639 --> 00:48:53.119
Hello.
00:48:53.360 --> 00:48:59.119
So please go in with an open mind and be willing to go anywhere.
00:48:59.280 --> 00:49:07.519
If you go in and say there are only specific cities that I can be based in, they're going to show you the door quicker than you can realize.
00:49:08.000 --> 00:49:08.880
Because there's no flexibility.
00:49:09.199 --> 00:49:14.800
Yeah, you must be open to be flexible, to be um willing to be based anywhere.
00:49:15.039 --> 00:49:16.159
Anywhere means anywhere.
00:49:16.320 --> 00:49:21.679
If you have these stipulations about what you can do, can't do, no, no, no, no, no.
00:49:21.760 --> 00:49:22.960
You're not willing to be flexible.
00:49:23.039 --> 00:49:24.639
These airlines will show you the door.
00:49:24.800 --> 00:49:25.199
Yes.
00:49:25.360 --> 00:49:28.400
So please be willing to be flexible and open for that.
00:49:28.880 --> 00:49:35.360
As I forestated, I have been commuting for 10 years.
00:49:35.679 --> 00:49:37.280
Commuting is a part of the job.
00:49:37.440 --> 00:49:39.039
It's it completely changes the job.
00:49:39.360 --> 00:49:40.000
Yes, it does.
00:49:43.599 --> 00:49:44.000
It can't be done.
00:49:44.079 --> 00:49:45.679
I know people doing it their whole 20 year fight.
00:49:45.760 --> 00:49:47.679
It's been doing it their entire career.
00:49:47.840 --> 00:49:49.679
And they just it becomes second nature at some point.
00:49:50.159 --> 00:49:50.559
You know what I mean?
00:49:50.719 --> 00:49:57.519
It definitely can be done, but it it is taxing, it's expensive, it's expensive, and it can it can change the job.
00:49:57.599 --> 00:49:59.920
It turns into a job in itself.
00:50:00.320 --> 00:50:01.119
Trying to get to work.
00:50:01.599 --> 00:50:05.679
Um, the reality of reserve life, it is challenging.
00:50:05.920 --> 00:50:06.719
Very challenging, it is true.
00:50:06.880 --> 00:50:07.440
It is tough.
00:50:07.599 --> 00:50:12.559
Uh, there are some airlines where they have been on reserve for 20 plus years.
00:50:13.199 --> 00:50:17.039
Reserve life for every carrier is different.
00:50:17.679 --> 00:50:21.280
If you know somebody ask them about it.
00:50:21.440 --> 00:50:22.719
Yeah, please do your research.
00:50:22.880 --> 00:50:23.119
Yes.
00:50:23.360 --> 00:50:24.159
Make sure you're fit for that.
00:50:24.559 --> 00:50:27.920
We're not gonna be specific on any particular carrier.
00:50:28.159 --> 00:50:33.119
That is where doing your research as much as you can is important.
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There's so many more um, I will say, groups, group chats that exist than when any of us started because they did not exist.
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We kind of just kind of had to figure it out, you know, on our own.
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So please go out, do your research.
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Again, Google is free.
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There are so many Facebook groups that are out there that exist for these kind of particular um conversations.
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So do your research about reserve life, flight attendant life, um, not really flight attendant life, but reserve life, commuting, um, understanding their pay, those kind of things, and understanding your pay.
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Yes, because it's not it's it's totally different from like hourly or salary job.
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And you even after coming into the career, it's still going to be an ever-evolving situation.
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Yeah.
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But un when it comes to pay, understand that.
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Um, one thing I do want to circle back to uh that we did not touch on that's very important.
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Social media.
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Make sure your social media pages are are clean and clear, free from certain derogatory statements and stuff like that.
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One, I shouldn't have to say this because of the day we live in, but companies do look at that.
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They look at that even when you think they're not looking at that.
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Um, to your point about the Facebook groups that are out there and other groups, WhatsApp, chats and stuff like that.
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When you think you might be safe in those groups, sometimes they have agents in those groups monitoring what is being said and done.
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So for those that want to interview, keep your nose clean, keep your nose clean and uh because I will even put it to you like this sometimes, even having your page locked and private helps.
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Helps, but it's not an end-of-minute be all because sometimes they can find ways around that, which I don't know how, but I've been told just be mindful of your activity and how you are carrying yourself on social media.
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Um, to the part about uh coming into this career and and going to training and stuff, talk it over with your family.
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Make sure you have a support system.
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One of the things when I went, I told my parents, I was like, look, y'all want these benefits later.
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I'm gonna need some money while I'm in training.
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And my parents did show up uh and helped me in that regard.
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Shout out to my mother and father.
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Thank you so much, um, for all that you've done.
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But it's important having the support if you're married, getting the support of your spouse, if you're not married but in a relationship, getting the support of your partner, cousins, because again, you need that support because those same people are gonna turn around.
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Y'all got any discounts, y'all got buddy passes?
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Like, can I get a flight?
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They're going to ask you.
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It's up to you how do you answer.
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But and the bring, I'm glad you mentioned the support thing because when you don't have that support at home with a spouse, let me be very clear.
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I witnessed it when I was in training.
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People outside on their lunch breaks, or when we got our five-minute breaks in training, arguing with their spouse because the spouse missed them or need them back home with the kids or mad that they've been gone so long.
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And that's a huge distraction while you're down in training.
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Yes.
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And you're dealing with so much people getting sent home because they're not studying, because they're up going back and forth with their spouses because of them being gone somewhere for five weeks and them not truly understanding what came with the job before they left.
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And now they're like, I don't like this, you need to get home, or your child's sick, or I need you here.
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These bills need to be
paid, and things like that.
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So make sure that y'all sit down and have the conversation of what it's going to look like for the next three months with expenditures, with me being gone, if you have children, daycare, things like that, make sure that those things are talked about because if not, it will blow, it can it can get really bad.
00:54:32.960 --> 00:54:33.119
Yeah.
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And my main thing that I tell my friends that have become flight attendants, save your money.
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Save.
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But when you as soon as you start applying, start saving because what people don't realize is that first month after you get out of training, you're not getting no check because you haven't worked yet.
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So you got to spend a whole month of working before you then you get a check the very next month.
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People also don't know flight attendants get paid for the month prior.
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We don't get paid for the month we just worked.
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We don't get that pay until the very next month.
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So if you start training in February, yeah, you start training in February, you're not gonna see a check until April because you gotta work all of March first.
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So you gotta think about that when all those, like we said earlier, the bills don't stop.
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They don't.
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So try your best to save your coins because you're going to need them.
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Because that first year, it's the struggle bus.
00:55:22.880 --> 00:55:29.760
Yeah, I will also say take it as you want.
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I'm not saying you need to do this, but if you are working somewhere you have tenor tenure where you can take a month off or two, do that.
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Do that because also coming into training, you will either find out if you're going to sink or swim.
00:55:47.679 --> 00:55:47.920
Yeah.
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You will find out because you didn't learn your um PAs in time or announcements buttons.
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Yeah, announcements, you yeah, I said PAs.
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Your announcements in time, you're getting sent home because you didn't learn the airport codes in time enough that you needed to, because they're quizzing you and testing you on those, you're getting sent home.
00:56:07.599 --> 00:56:15.519
Because you decided not to shave one day and you're they done said something to you and you didn't take it serious, you're getting sent home.
00:56:15.679 --> 00:56:27.760
So sometimes taking a month off from your job that you might currently have that you can possibly go back to would be a if things go left, would be a saving grace.
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Because until you are walking to get pinned your
wings, you are still not safe.
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And even when you're walking to get your wings, you're not safe.
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You're not safe until after you receive those wings.
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Yep.
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You ain't saying so you're probation.
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Well, it's weird.
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That's what we're really talking about.
00:56:49.119 --> 00:56:51.519
But anyway, well, yeah, like it's it's important.
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And that's it goes also making sure that you have money aside for the clothes you're gonna need while you're in training because you have to be business casual every day that you're in training.
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Yeah, and if your airline doesn't provide clothes things for you to wear, because some do, you have to pay for that as well.
00:57:06.559 --> 00:57:10.719
So make sure that you have that you're coming to training with the right attire.
00:57:11.119 --> 00:57:19.440
Absolutely, and we'll touch on attire and uh we got because this is a great conversation in another episode.
00:57:19.760 --> 00:57:26.639
Um but just making sure um your appearance is as such, you know.
00:57:26.719 --> 00:57:35.199
If you're not used to certain things um in terms of your appearance or attire, um yeah, we're gonna talk about that.
00:57:35.440 --> 00:57:40.880
So that is going to happen in our next episode where we are going to address the newbies in the room.
00:57:41.280 --> 00:57:43.760
So uh definitely be on the lookout.
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I'm working at my airline, and so many people are like, oh my God, I didn't even know you worked here.
00:58:37.760 --> 00:58:40.800
Like, I just listened to you, I just saw your video.
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We love that.
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We it is very inspiring.
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It gives us encouragement to keep doing it and keep uh going on.
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Because maybe.
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Yeah.
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It's not about the destination, it's about the perspective.
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We land in places only seen on television or read about in books.
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Until next time, we'll see y'all on the next fly.
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