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Marginalized groups can be the target of
negative beliefs, behaviors or judgments from others.
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On this show we seek out marginalized
voices and perspectives and tackle some of
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the conflicts and issues these groups face. Now is the time to have your
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voice heard. This is inside the
margins with your host, Matt Wilson.
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Good afternoon and welcome to another edition
of inside the margins. We have had
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some time off, but we're back, so thank you for tuning back into
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us. Hopefully you had a great
Halloween and everything is going well for you.
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Got A lot of talk about today. We got some news in the
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entertainment world as well as just regular
news around the world, and today I'm
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going to return to a topic that
I talked about a lot, that is
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craft beer. Yes, I know
if you follow me on Instagram, if
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you follow me on Facebook, if
you follow me on twitter, by the
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way, if you don't follow me, it's at Radio Matt Wilson Again,
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it's at radio are a Dio Matt
Matt Wilson Wil son, you'll you will
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know that I am very much into
craft beer. I love craft beer,
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have for a while. I think
it's a great product and it's a great,
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great way to enjoy something that is
local and gives back to your community.
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And also those are very good way
for people to venture out into another
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business opportunity. But I'll get into
that able later on. And I went
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to a festival in Buffalo about a
month ago and I interviewed a few people
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for actually a podcast I had who
called Grill this it saw, I heardcom
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and spotify, tune and APP,
where we get your podcast. You can
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find it, Derek will this explanation. Explanation, point and out. That
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topic was primarily about, you know, the brewers that were there and the
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beers are making and where you can
find them and all that good stuff.
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But I came across a person that
I had been following on instagram for a
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while. He's known as the black
bearded nerd, and he happened to be
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there and he has the same kind
of love for Craft Beers I do and
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he also is very involved in trying
to get the word out amongst African Americans
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and other people of Color. So
I thought that was a fantastic chance to
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talk to him about his thoughts in
his viewpoints. So we're going to get
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into that later. On, but
first what I want to do is go
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ohuat. Let's go ahead and start
off with some news, entertainment, wise
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the regular news around the country,
and then after that we'll get into our
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craft beer topic of the day.
So, as you know, it's this
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is voting season. Voting takes place
tomorrow and the big state that everyone's looking
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at is Virginia. And Virginia candidate
for governor, Terry mcculloff, says he
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loved his parents, but he believes
they shouldn't be the ones picking what books
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are being read in schools. I
Love Billion Jack be called my parents,
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but they should not have been picking
my math or science book. We have
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experts will actually do that. Speaking
on NBC's Beat, depressed the Virginia Democrats
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at his opponent in the governor's race
is basing his campaign around racist ideals because
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a book Glenn Young can wants Ban
is written by a black author. The
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call, if assisted, that he's
the right choice for the governor because of
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his plan to move the state schools
forward. He ques Junkin's campaign of spreading
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hate and creating division, just like
former president trump. On too, Georgia,
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the selection of potential jurors is still
going in the murder trial of three
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white men accuses of killing twenty five
year old Ahmad Aubrey. The Brunswick news
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reports that fifty five out of sixty
four potential jurors had been selected as a
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Friday afternoon, and lawyers will whittle
the number of jurors down to twelve and
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alternates once the threshold has been reached. Aubrey was shot at that then Brunswick
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and a Brunswick neighborhood. In February
two thousand and twenty, vice president Kamela
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Harris gets her booster shot, as
we have said from the beginning, does
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that scenes are free, they're safe, they will save your life. Harris
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received them Duna booster shot on Saturday
in DC and so far the CDC has
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approved booster shots for folks over sixty
five years old, those
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would preexisting conditions
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or who work at jobs with the
high risk of exposure. The White House
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confirmed Harris job duties, a frequent
of frequent travel and meeting with Pete many
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people made her eligible for the booster. Hip Hop artist Jay Z's among the
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inductees to the rock and Roll Hall
of Fame For Two Thousand and twenty one.
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Speeches by former president Obama and comedian
Dave Chapelle help propel Jay z into
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the shrine Saturday night. In his
recorded message, the former president said Jay
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Z, real named Sean Carter,
is the embodiment of the American dream.
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Chapelle said Jay Z is hiphop and
forever and ever and a day, another
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hiphop legend was also inducted into the
rock and Roll Hall of fame, rapper
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ll cool j. He was a
trying Saturday for his musical excellence. Dr
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Drey took care of inducting the legendary
artist, who also brought along special guests
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eminem and Jennifer Lopez for performance.
Astop rocky is treating his fans by sharing
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his first project on streaming platforms.
The rapper dropped live love a sap on
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apple music and spotify on Friday,
in a trend that continues of rappers releasing
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mixtapes for streaming services. A few
changes were made, with some tracks not
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making the cut, but classes like
Paso and what's up, we're still left
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on the project. Rocky also put
a new song on the project called Sandman
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and twenty one savages. Brother the
brothers killer was sentenced. The man convicted
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of killing twenty one savages brother last
year in London is being sentenced to ten
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years in prison. Tyrese fuller was
found guilty of Manslaw for the killing of
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Torell Davis Emmons. The two reportedly
got into a fight, both armed with
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knives, and Fuller Stab Davis Emmons
after he had already put his knife away.
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Fler reportedly refused to attend his own
sentencing. FETTY WAPP is being accused
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of being a part of a major
drug distribution ring that has moved over one
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hundred kilos of heroin, fetnall cocaine
and crack cocaine in New York and New
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Jersey. The my way rapper was
arrested on federal druge drug charges at city
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field and queens just before he was
set to perform at the two thousand and
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Twenty one rolling loud New York festival
Thursday night. The indictment says Freddy WHAP
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was a kilogram level redistributor for the
trafficking organization. The rapper faces a maximum
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of life in prison if found guilty. Singer R Kelly is signing a high
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profile attorney to appeal's recent wrecketeering conviction
in New York City. New York based
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lawyer Jennifer Bon Jeen will spearhead the
R and B singers post conviction motions.
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She was successful in getting an appeal
for actor Bill Cosby. Kelly was found
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guilty last month of w recketeering and
sex abuse charges. And Kanye West is
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auctioning off his fleet of cars from
his Wyoming ranch. TAMZ reports six of
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Kanye's use cars are up forbidding at
Musterborough's auctions. This comes a few weeks
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after ye decided to put his Wyoming
mansion up for sale. Just outside of
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cody, the rapper bott in almost
sixty million dollar house in melvioe, California
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in September. That's latest news for
now. When we come back we'll talk
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more craft beer, but first let's
go what wasn't for some local music.
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This is inside the merchant. Yeah, yeah, listen, it's kind of
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crazy what you do for love.
Scare yourself thinking thoss like oh Jay,
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how he used the glove. If
I had did it with a double back
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to make sure of Love wasn't there
anymore. Leave my keys by the dog.
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It's kind of why? What we
do for love, like have a
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child, wash them smiles, turn
the frown when we use the love,
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letting the trade pounds to the heart
over drive, while I'm heart doing dumb
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know when you wait too small.
It's messed up. What we do for
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love. I mean it's feels so
good now when they heard us, sort
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of like a drug. It's kind
of crazy. When we get that love,
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get it confused and abused in this
you. So we lose the love.
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It's insane. We few in love
from outside, but it inside of
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such a beauty love. It's such
a beauty love. It's such a beauty
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love. It's such a beauty it's
kind of crazy. What we do for
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love. It's kind of crazy,
kind of crazy. What we do for
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love. Yeah, it's kind of
crazy. What he'll do for love.
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It's kind of crazy, kind of
crazy, what he'll do for love.
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Yeah, it's kind of crazy.
What your do for love. It's kind
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of crazy, kind of crazy.
What your Froo for love. Yeah,
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it's kind of crazy. What we'll
do check it. Never take love for
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granted. You understand me? To
sit for for better who start from the
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roots up. That sees you planet
so what's flowers without the rain, your
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joy without the pain, your without
your frames, you beauty without your brains?
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I need all of that. Ain't
no fool in the stooment's call from
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you. You know I'm calling back
love. When you let me fall in
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that. Thank all off in the
heavens up up now. It keeps me
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up like a SAWM ASS. Bring
that pay. But I go insane if
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you go, you back. So
every day with you, with joy,
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and this ain't nomploy. So No, B and Coy will go have on
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our boy. Your girls wear so
the same. Put that my cane and
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the Pinky ring. You water this
world. No atlan putting kate on your
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money phone. So whenever you phone
home, tell my boys I be right
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by smoking and sipping up groom.
So focused on what to do. Whatever
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I'm post to you, I'm picking
rings like Mike. It's kind of crazy
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what we do for love. It's
kind of crazy, kind of crazy,
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what we do for love. Yeah, it's kind of crazy. For hipro
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for love. It's kind of crazy, kind of crazy what he'll do for
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love. Yeah, it's kind of
crazy. What your Doo for love.
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It's kind of crazy, kind of
crazy. What your root for love?
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Yeah, it's kind of crazy.
What we'll do? You gotta get that
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paperwork right. They say I'm a
brainy act maniac fanatic. In fact I'm
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all that. In the Blue Baseball
had no capture required. Reaction inspired this
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murderers alive Bob be spitting through the
wire. It be good as good die.
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The CAT's trying to box it.
Certain things don't add. Remain toxic
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the system of noxious. Gotta checking
the boxes. But we was checking people.
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Who was checking
the prophets? The
judge had a topic. Now it
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was fixed up. It's what they
had son to the paperwork mix up.
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It's where he had a gun on
this person. When they picked up not
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they on his jacket, but the
jacket ain't zipped up. You could call
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it a hiccup. We call it
a set up. They say it was
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a stick up. Stickler just wouldn't
letter see. They paint in the picture.
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Nobody would care for you do the
incomplete paperwork. It's dead fault.
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So therefore talk to him straight.
Necessarily, its eighty five degrees. Are
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Not here with the blank. Hi. Look, the's try to stick me
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for stars and and awesome, but
I'm heay belly find this singing dye one.
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John Carston got housewife. He's paying. My band hit the block.
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I got the bonds. Bullets raining
like Ham and young cryptop of only your
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financer back and wrapt smoother than your
standard on the truck. High Tack,
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the Armor Max for Fourth Brotom listen, zoos soon rant. We brought with
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be a bottles Brooklyn basements with biggie. Had your daughter tied up gorilla glue
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in my Piss, sit in the
Specimen Cup and my po having problems at
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home. Just my luck. Tell
the DA I my zoom trial. He
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can give round here, requiring that
you quick. The fire catch took Tim
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me granted. City should be watching
for that wire tap charge to drop through
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to incomplete paperwork, false TAC ards
and twelve conflaming jerks. What up though?
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Vending machines, a family court or
all lot of buy hard with the
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Bacas and you'll be popping rock.
Steady, Big Mike King Alvas, let's
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walk these dogs done. They go
to ambulance. Evan got shots going back
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ass only time that is ass got
pop her. He got hit by can't
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eve down the block with the loaded
stock over under box style. The block
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is hot, yess or. I
was coming up the corner store Kenny had
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the big fourth, fifth and want
to settle score. Your thes beef is
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going off for years and they used
to be cool. That's what it appeared.
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Were time to shift gears. These
low budget gunners trying to get in
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position. I got tank for
the
Mama head. Another quarter piece was we
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lead up at clear water beach cool. I'm ahead and list a bit damage
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and make the candid rift. To
the point is soul Vanishad, perfect management,
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hot caliber slug that wasted Tim a
shots to the donment faces. Welcome
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back to you inside the marriage is
a quick reminder is that tomorrow is voting
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day for many races in Monroe County
and around Monroe County. So if you
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are eligible to vote, please go
ahead and vote. Does not matter what
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part of you affiliated with, whether
you're Democrat, Republican or Independent. If
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you want things to be the way
you feel they should be, the best
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way to have your voice heard is
to vote now. As I spoke earlier
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in regards to craft beer, that's
something that I'm very passionate about and I
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don't know why it's just something,
because I think a lot of us get
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pigeon holed into certain things of what
we should be drinking or what we should
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be eating. Right we have been
bombarded by marketing for certain products, things
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like Heineken, things like Hennessey,
then things like remy right at every person,
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if you go into a hip hop
influence environment, everyone's drinking those and
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and I have nothing against any of
those and those are all actually pretty decent
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quality beverages. But there's so much
more out there and there's a lot of
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things that are actually a lot better
tasting than those products. But because we
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have been told that that's what the
culture drinks, that's what you drink,
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and I've always been a person who
said against that. I think that you
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should be able to experience some better
things out there that may even be,
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you know, priced more reasonably and
allow of these products that are available actually
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help your community and your living scroudings. So that's why I went to the
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fresh fest a couple of years back
to talk to Garrett Oliver in regards to
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craft beer, and he told me
all about how he got involved into a
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now he's trying to push the narrative
for the culture and regards to craft there
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also. I thought that was fantastic. There's another person. He calls himself
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the black bearded nerd. He's doing
the same thing and he happened to be
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at a festival and buffalo that I
went to as well to film, actually
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to record for a different show,
and I had a chance to talk to
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him. I thought what he had
to say was very, very informative.
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So I want to play that interview
for you with the black beard and Nert.
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I think you're going to be surprised
and educated, I think, and
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learn some new things later on the
future. I think I'm going to play
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more of Gara Oliver's interview as well. If you want to check out on
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Youtube. I think I have posted
a portion of it, but it isn't
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really get in doesn't really get into
the the cultural information regards to beer.
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It is more just about craft beer
itself. So if you want to just
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check out a flick, it's called
it's just beer, or is it?
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That's on Youtube right now. That
just kind of gives you a glimpse into
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what the world of craft beer is. But I'm going to play more from
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Garrett Oliver in regards to actual education
in regards to African American influence into the
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beer environment and also how how it's
a growing thing that you should want to
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be involved with, and this is
the time like to mention I want to
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hear from you. Are you a
person who has had more than your typical
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budwiser's or whatever the you know,
the generic beer of today is, or
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are you a person who just goes
with the trends, like you do the
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Heinekens and the Remi's and the Hennessy's, and that's pretty much all you do?
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You know at want to know,
I want to I just want to
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get a thought process out there.
And also that question I would ask you
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is, are you willing to branch
out? Are you willing to try other
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things? Are you, as your
pellet, just so used to Henny and
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remy and Heineken and Modello and whatever
else that you drink? Is that all
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you can stomach, or are you? Are you willing to branch out?
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Hit me up on the email.
My email is Matt Wilson at inside the
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margins RADIOCOM. It's Matt Wilson Inside
the
margins RADIOCOM. Or you're going to
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send me a shout, follow and
follow me on Instagram or twitter at Radio
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Matt Wilson. Let me know your
thoughts. I'm just curious to know what
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people who are of color or women
too, because it's also as a as
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the same truth with women. A
lot of women, even though they are
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getting more involved craftier now, they're
still as quite a deal of women who
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really aren't don't want to touch that. They said they're they're drinking the seltzers
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is like that, which is cool. SELTERS are good at alternative localorie,
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alternative to beer, but still,
just just curious. I want to hear
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what your thoughts are. All right, we're going to go ahead take a
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break, play a little music for
you and when we come back we will
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play the interview with the black bearded
nerd. This is go bought back.
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We got another one. Slops keep
popping a bubble gums thick and heat.
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One in the field like he fought, was gone dead. Amount to overpass
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where the Amtrak run. Bring your
gun. I got gallon up premium fire
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you up this course. GET THE
UP. His clip bone is pretty boy
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face. I'll see you try to
more put against us. This mother and
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gold all store, but cut your
shot down. You count text so all
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out with east round us. You
can hear it echo when the next town.
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Ain't from neck down, I'm only
five six, cast a big shadow,
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cast as over with it might the
BIS when they come to family.
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No love loss, and I ain't
Joe Button, Ninety Mama style, beating
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down with a switch fee by a
rock steady. You Ain't keeping with catching
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up to you to maybe several score
the hards. I even and don't want
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war. The name Ram bully s
bring it to your dog. Keeping Roll
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this that shirt that y'all was asking
for, catching up to you, to
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give you several score the dogs.
I even don't want war, the name
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Ram bully. Bring it to your
dog. Keep it roll. This Day
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it y'all, was asking for slice, you angle, the raised relieve,
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you star spangle you had with dangle
with each cut that made it fatal to
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the point till you see, Andrew, thank you with you coming with lasers
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to the cener grate you and here
I'm a billing, spitted bowl, chilling
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Scorpion balls which your blood spilling beat
you don't the pit and knock you off
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the you run your chips saying suckings. You can't put this grenade rad bullish,
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more powerful than the shoddy. Put
Up Grit up in Hell's whining complic
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cooking. Shall Carve this rash amcies
get this soul's took it. brottle bar
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MC, that be me crazy talking. Where you see him? The cock.
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Please pine up your grudget. He
get hitting another second. Now I'm
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coming for you. Wish. There's
like threatening catching up to you to maybe
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several score. The hogs are even
and don't want war. You may rab
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bully shoot. Bring it to your
dog keeping raw. This din h'all was
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asking for catching up to you,
to leave you several score. The dogs
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are even, then don't want war. Then they rab bully shot. Bring
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it to your dog. Keeping growing
this it'shall was asking for you. Yeah,
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yeah, look w to the old, oh, to the DS H,
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to the El and Oh, Ye, he blessed. My position is
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progress. I the suckers. They
regrets. Spit it up, notious competition.
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Got Regrets on these ye heels like
ugly vlissia. Yeah, killing confidences.
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I was spitting homony off Papa Doppolis
fly the helicopter gets clouds, gipping
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red off flights. I chased the
summer this yeah, I terror squat punt
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attending. Yeah, this child's play. Chucky in the building. Yeah,
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couple shots to bomb bay they take, and nor to sound day. A
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shot to kill them all with a
cow flat hyphenated. But I'm not from
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the bay. My prices flad.
That old lady needs you. One's A.
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I leveled up. contact. Try
to catch up and get your crew
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place, say next year. My
feature course to be a house stout payment.
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What now? Get the Gulls Dr
Case was pace. Yes, I
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snatch your heartbreak your br chest,
Vertebratek the brace at against the her amaze.
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H I'm holly humble. Feel some
type of way. What they discrun
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notation
puddle on. Yes, smoky
crunch, he's a jumbo's I'm bowling my
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tumble above the rib nuts. So
selfish. I don't give a cock.
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I don't give a phone. Don't
I'll be on that now. Will for
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kill him? On with the flow. Don't test me patient. Yes,
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that's your front doorway and Gretsky hockey
steak masking gloves. Oh, let's see,
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you really won't really welcome back to
inside the margins. All right,
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so, as promised, here is
the interview that I had with the black
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bearded nerd. Now you can follow
him. By the way, his real
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name is Ronaldo Haines, Ronaldo Haynes, also known as the black bearded nerd.
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You can follow him on Instagram at
black like underscore, bearded, and
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bearded is spelled Bee r deed,
underscoord Nerd, and that's black underscore bearded,
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bee urdd underscore nerd. Follow him
on Instagram. You can see his
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post. He does reviews of beer
and everything like that as well, and
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he was a fantastic person to talk
to you and they get to know and
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I hope in the future that we
can actually sit down and and spend some
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quality time and kind of discussing sample
some things together, but this is our
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interview. We talked once again.
We were at the The New York State
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Craft brewers festival in Buffalo. The
New York State Craft Brewers Association puts on
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festivals all across New York State.
Next one coming upon believes in Syracuse,
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and after that they're going to be
in Albany, but they're all over New
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York state. This one happened to
be in Buffalo. Was a fantastic festival.
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is a fantastic way to meet a
lot of the brewers that I enjoy
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who make the procs that I drink. Get to meet them and see how
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they make that. But I bumped
into him. He was a great person
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to talk to me. So here
he is. It's the black bearded nerd.
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I'm excited to talk to a brother
right here. I've been following this
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guy for a minute because I think
black influence the craft is a very important
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so I'm here with the black bitter
nerry. What's going on, brother?
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I'm telling brother, how you feeling? I'm doing well, I'm doing all
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that. Let me ask you.
I have to ask you this because everyone
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enters the craft beer aroum very differently. What got you interested in craft beer?
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I'm keeping one hunting with you.
I grew up drinking beer and I
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figured, you know what, they
got all these different beers out here.
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Why would I stick to drink at
Corona's court forty five s ohe you know,
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I'm saying, why not branch out
and do my thing? That's what
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got me into it. So when
did you first aside that? Listen,
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I'm you know, for me,
for example, listen, I was sitting
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there drinking like a Labat blue or
something like that, you know what I
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mean. And I met a friend
of mine. He was from Europe,
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and he gave me a Guinness.
That was like a kind of my first
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cross into something either. Yeah,
right, exactly, exactly, correct,
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right, right, and I was
like, I don't know about this,
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but then he kind of, you
kind of put me around. I turned
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half of Watsons, I try loggers, Drestt House, I try a bunch
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of stuff, you know, and
I got into it. How would you
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what was the beer that got you
into that field? I'm keeping on hunting.
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Great Lakes Elian Nest. It said
lager. I tried everything else prior
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to that, like, you know
again, Coronas, modelos, etc.
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And something about that drew me in. Once I try that, I realize,
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you know what, it got to
be something else out there besides just
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this bs who was marketed to drink. So I'm yeah, now let me
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ask you a question because I like
to ask any any black person who's involved
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with craft beer. Why do you
think now let's be getting the tick off
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off. It's beginning to tick off
in the African American community, but why
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is it not ticking off in the
black room as much point of Reference Marketing,
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and I'm a point of reference,
just like I said to the brother
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earlier. I grew up listening or
watching my father, my uncle's, the
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brothers in my community drinking oe,
Ding forty five, drinking say not its.
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So we didn't have the point of
reference of Miller high
life. Yeah,
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once in a blue Mike, but
we didn't understand there was a reference
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or or level of what was what. Now we still are stuck in the
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same time frame where whenever is the
cheapest, you're buy it. We don't
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understand. We buy for quality.
The same thing with Henny. Henny is
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a good liquor, but there's a
whole lot of other cognacts that are much
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better than that. So our point
of reference keeps us in a box.
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And as black men and women,
we are trained or program to drink what
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we see. So if you are
a white man, white woman, you're
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going to drink everything under the sun
because your mother, your father, your
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grandfather would tell you this is what
we drink here, this is what we
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do. I didn't have that reference. I got introduced by some some Dominican
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brothers I knew. I knew a
couple white people, because again, if
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we're going to get introduced, it's
going to be somebody else to put us
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up to me, I'm just keeping
a hunt it. So that was my
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point of reference. Excellent. So
if you're talking to a brother who is
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perhaps shy or scared to kind of
branch out, because you know, and
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let's be real, I'm not keeping
his reels, I can keep it.
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When you talk to most brothers,
you talk to people who are like heimekens.
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Right, it's like the people you're
like remy. Look at someone's drinking
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like I like you said, honey, these are the kind of like the
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staple drinks in our community, right. How do you convince someone to branch
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out out of that? Again,
as black men and women, we're not
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a monolith. We are one as
a people, but we represent different adversity.
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WHO's that? represent a lot of
different facets, and the biggest thing
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would be is, first of all, we created beer. If you do
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your history, do your research,
we created beer and might not have been
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carbonated when we did it, but
we did that. So why not enjoy
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what we created, the fruits of
our Labor? Why not branch out and
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try something a little bit different,
because again, we are not a monolith.
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We try everything. We are the
culture, whether it's beer, fashion,
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music. We are the culture period
west. Think it's very well said.
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So do you think festivals like this? Now, granted, we talked
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off much before about another fussil that
I went to you and I know you.
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You you want to maybe in the
past, to do the fresh festival,
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which was a more ECLECTIC, more
it smell like a block party,
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more, you know I'm saying,
look like more black wear than the fustible.
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Do you think these are the kind
of events, though, that would
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draw more attention to what else is
out there, with the possibilities are when
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it comes to like crafting and brewing
beer? Yes, I agree with you,
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but I think that we need to
market to ourselves as the community.
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We need to put more education on
what and what is involved in beer.
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What are the tasting notes? What
are the knows that you smell? We
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need to educate each other on it, because if we don't understand that knowledge,
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the basic knowledge of it, then
we won't participate in it. and
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to me, I got put on
by somebody else but myself. I'm a
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very educated person, I'm very cultural, so I was interested in it.
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So we have to branch out,
we have to speak our truth when we
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have to be a little bit more
diverse and make sure that we are included,
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because without us there is no culture, without us there is no beer,
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because when they make these beers,
they do the cultural appropriation, whether
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it be outcast, whether it be
wooting, whether it be something using with
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Bub wise or when Nellie. We
have to represent ourselves and speak for each
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other, because we don't, we
get laws. So we getting taken over.
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That's just what it is. Now
another question. You get deep,
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and I appreciate this. Now you
look at the moult liquors of the past,
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right, you're saying eyes your you
were to say that's commercial. Right,
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you know what it is. Now
these still aren't really necessary to the
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craft beer. So it's more still
more of a mult liquor type, big
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industry type thing. But that we
that we tried to help advertise right,
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as you know, with craft beer
is independent, it's it's home brewed,
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as people that started in a garage
somewhere that made their own product. That
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it's like to sell it. So
there's a lot of money to be made
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in this industry. Right. There's
something something that's interesting and you can.
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Let you do this yourself. How
do we get people out of the industrialize
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mindset of beer and into the independence
of beer? Good answer, and I'm
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keep a real short and simple equity. We are not involved in the equity
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aspect. We are more involved with
excuse me, what's popping? Was Popping
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Right now? If we're understand the
value in the dollar, because we are
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used by the white brothers, the
white sisters, who are allies, but
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they utilize us for what we bring
to the culture. Right. So we're
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understand that there's more than just us. On the face of it, we
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would understand the value of everything,
just like anything, whether it be tick
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tock, whether it be facebook,
instagram. We are the culture period.
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So we have to understand our value
as a people. Once we had to
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send our varying as and our potential
as a as a community in our worth.
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It allows us to expand, be
on our wildest dreams, just like
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I answers to suspect it. That's
fantastic. said. Now let's let's get
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us get more light. Hi,
what's your favorite cut with and your Palette
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and your pellet? What is your
favorite kind of beer? I'm a keeping
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a hunted and keeping a hunting like
always. Do. Give Me Belgians all
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day. I love stouts, but
give me bellies. I'm talking about Chimais,
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I'm talking about trap beast, I'm
talking about Du Val's P rots.
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Give me that. That's just me. And second will be stouts, verily
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specifically. All right, all right, I find a question. I'm as
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you warmer, question of the question. Brother, if you were to have
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just one beer, that's the last
one you could have for ust of your
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life. That's wait, you dos
cover. Wait, what beer would it
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be? Trap Peace Rolls for a
number ten. That is a Belgian brewed
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by monks in a monastery over in
Belgium. If you don't know, now
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you know. Look it up.
Go get it, my brother, is
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a pleasure like a beer. Black
bearded NERD, how can they follow you,
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man? You follow me on IG
Black bearded bee urded nerd, and
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follow me on Youtube. I do
reviews weekly. I'll talk about my view,
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my perspective as us as a people, and I give it to you
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raw, uncut. There is no
filter. It's I don't know if I
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can cursonal here, but I don't
give a fuck about what somebody thinks.
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I'm tell you how I feel.
That's what it is. I appreciate anyone
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who is for the culture doing this
for the culture. Again, this is
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something we get more people are Craft
Beers real you can make money in this
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industry and we need to Margat us
to our brothers and sisters to make this.
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You know I'm saying. So I
appreciate you be on the show.
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Look you so much. Rather we
got to look out for each other.
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We don't go for each other,
who else will? All Right, I
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want to thank so much to the
black bearded nerd again. He was a
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great person to talk to you.
Real name Ronaldo Haynes. Ronaldo, I
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was I'm happy to have met you. Helped to talk to you in the
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future. So with the special thanks
to you and with that, we're going
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