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into the only fans business, and I guess, like, how did you find the reception from that? Like were you like how do you can? I ask, like you, really, this might be too personal, but like you go for it when you post a photo to OnlyFans, Like, how do you receive an income? Like does it kind of just get banked into your account? Because obviously it's on subscription. I'm curious to know, like, what was your first post and how much did you earn in that first go Well. 00:05:46 Speaker 2: It can be hard to tell, like how much you make per post, you know what I mean, because you can post to your wall, you can send videos for sale and the messages and stuff like that. Yeah, but I mean initially it was literally like being money in a bit of rent. I think within three months, making like my salary equivalent of what I made of my day job. And then within a year I was making four times my salary. And that's when I decided to quit the day job and go all in on only fans. 00:06:12 Speaker 3: Yeah, just by posting hot photos of yourself naked, like that's pretty. 00:06:17 Speaker 2: People want to see more of me, so why not? 00:06:19 Speaker 3: Yeah, well I can imagine did you kind of get a bit creative, like or did you kind of just do the sub standard like standing photo in the mirror? 00:06:26 Speaker 1: I was like, what did you start to think? 00:06:27 Speaker 2: Oh, okay, there's a real art to taking a good dick pic. Oh, don't take it. I'm sure you've seen that. I get I get the by DMS. People send me random unsolicited pictics all the time and they're laying down in a dimly lit room, their feet are sticking up dirty laundry in the corner, or they're like sitting a toilet, open toilet in the background or something. It's put some effort into the dick pics, please, they could be so good. Get get a mirroring. 00:06:58 Speaker 1: Okay, so good lighting. 00:07:00 Speaker 2: Good lighting's key. Try different camera angles, try different stances, figure out what works for you, you know, maybe put it on a timeline, stand in a certain way, do some homework, you know, go on Twitter and see what other dudes are doing and copy that styles. You know, it's taking a good dick pic, isn't it takes practice? 00:07:21 Speaker 3: Well there you go, fellas, Like, if you really want to send us unsolicited dick pics, there's your four tips from the girth Master himself. Like how to send a good dick pic. 00:07:32 Speaker 2: Because I mean there is one is like ask first. 00:07:38 Speaker 1: Yes, please, I know this is the thing. 00:07:41 Speaker 3: Like I'm like, if you're going to send me a dick pick, like, send me a fucking good one. 00:07:45 Speaker 1: Like I don't. I don't even like. 00:07:47 Speaker 3: Like I'm bisexual, so I've been with girls and I much prefer you know, looking at vaginas and I do dick pics. 00:07:53 Speaker 1: I'm like, girls can send me any type of photo. I'm like, yeah, that's that's way. 00:07:57 Speaker 3: But when it comes to you guys, I'm always like, okay, yeah, like that's fine, but make it artsy like give It's. 00:08:04 Speaker 2: A big overlap between like the guys that don't ask permission to send dick pics and the guys that can't take good tic pics. It's the same type of. 00:08:11 Speaker 1: Guys, it really is. 00:08:14 Speaker 3: I know, there's gotta be some sort of creek because it's also like in terms of taking a nude like I'm I'm I've never like felt the confidence to like properly like send the nude, but I have taken on and I'm like, there's this one that I have, right and I'm telling you some insight. 00:08:31 Speaker 1: I'm telling you some insight. So there's this one fit photo of me and I love it because it's art like it's literally I look at it and I'm like, bad at fucking sigh like that. 00:08:40 Speaker 3: I I'm like, anyone was to receive this, no one has, God forbid, my girlfriend hasn't even seen it. 00:08:48 Speaker 1: Then I would be like this, yeah, it's. 00:08:51 Speaker 2: If it ever, does leak you want to you're proud of gets out You're like, yes, that is mine. 00:08:59 Speaker 3: Yeah, So how do you deal with that because obviously there's so many Like I'm assuming, like obviously with only fans, people can screenshot, people can share, or is that kind of fully forbidden in the app to do, Like will you get banned if you screenshot or get or share someone else's video? 00:09:16 Speaker 1: Like obviously it's only some subscription. 00:09:20 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's behind it's behind a paywall. You know, hopefully people that want to pay for it aren't the type to also then share it. Unfortunately, those people are out there. There's software built into only fans stop screen recording and stuff like that, kind of like with Netflix not letting new screen record shows, same type of software. But there are still, you know, there's ways around it. People do leak content sometimes, but I like to just think that the people that are going to watch the leak content would never have spent the money anyway. And there's a lot of people out there that want to spend the money to support me because it's not like I'm a multinational company. I'm not Universal Studios. I'm just the individual guy making my own content at my own expense, you know, putting a lot of risk into it to give the fans what they want. And if they weren't supporting me, I wouldn't be able to do it and they wouldn't get more of what they want. So there are fortunately a lot of people out there willing to pay for it and support me doing it, which you know, I'm so appreciative of. 00:10:14 Speaker 1: Yeah. 00:10:15 Speaker 3: And in the time that you've been in it, obviously you said you haven't been in it for too long, have you noticed like a bit of a switch up in terms of like how much more people are using only Fans and subscribing to this this app or like do you feel like sex work and everything like that, and like porn work has evolved in a good way or a bad way, Like what's your kind of perception on it?

00:10:40 Speaker 2: I think Only Fans has definitely continued to become more mainstream since I joined, you know, I joined kind of at the tail end of COVID, which you know, Only Fans have this huge surge during COVID, and it's kept, you know, getting more and more popular and just becoming part of you know, every day lexicon. But porn's in a weird place right now, because there's a lot of people kind of attacking people's like right to make porn I guess and distribute it. Porn Hub's banned a bunch of states in America right now, and the UK is just brought in some like laws where you have to verify your like driver's license to even watch porn Hub or anything. So there's a lot of things going on right now to like keep people from watching porn, which I think is kind of crazy and like, you know, invasion of privacy. It's gone down a weird route, but I think the demands always going to be there. You know, people are always going to watch porn. It's and like they should be able to do. There's no reason you can't obviously, you know, keep yourself in check and don't watch it twenty four to seven. But yeah, consenting adults should be able to make a distribute videos themselves, and people should be able to consume those videos. 00:11:43 Speaker 3: Okay, talking about like content, you're now a brand pretty much like girth Master is your brand. Do you feel like you have like two separate entities, like your ban at home and like you put girth Master on like as in like it's like this persona or do you feel like the both worlds kind of collide and you kind of just exist as you are, Like, it's. 00:12:02 Speaker 2: A weird blurred line. Especially now that I'm living in LA and there's all parties and events that I go to, you know, I'm girth Master at these parties full of people and people coming up to me about being girth Master. It's and especially like now that I'm so president on social media, there's not a lot of my personal life that I do hold back. You know. There's bits and pieces here and there. You know, my family isn't mentioned or anything like that. But for the most part, I just put myself out there. It's under the but it's under the girth Master name, you know, so it's you know, I try to get people a pretty authentic look at me. 00:12:35 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, okay, you correct custom videos as well. What is can I ask you, like a really random question about what is the like the most maybe like wildest requests you've had, like for a custom video for people who haven't watched your content. 00:12:50 Speaker 2: So normally custom requests are pretty normal. You know, they maybe want you to see their name or wear a suit or something like that. But I've had one really rogue one and I didn't do it. I'll preface it, but I didn't do this one. But a subscriber asked me to I don't even know if I can say this, but he asked me to use my ship as lube and like jerk off with no even entertained. 00:13:19 Speaker 1: Oh my god. People are really into that.

00:13:21 Speaker 2: Hey, people are out there. There's some weird, weird people. 00:13:25 Speaker 1: Wow. 00:13:26 Speaker 3: Have you ever had like someone be like use your you know, as a like or like put like a puppet or something like like like. 00:13:37 Speaker 1: Do like a yeah, yeah, like dress it up like I don't. 00:13:43 Speaker 3: Know, like you know, not to be so forward, but I'm sure you've had these questions before. 00:13:47 Speaker 2: I do have someone a girl that I worked with, put her fake lashes on it afterwards, like on the tips. It looks like a little do Oh my god, because I picture on Twitter if you want to do a deep dive? 00:14:00 Speaker 3: Oh wait, oh my god, guys we need together. I mean there's like yeah, and can you like do you Oh? 00:14:09 Speaker 1: I got that thing. 00:14:09 Speaker 3: It's just so funny because I've always thought, like, okay, what like what would. 00:14:13 Speaker 1: Be my niche thing to do it? 00:14:15 Speaker 3: I would be I would be into like like funny masks. I think I would be like I want to hide myself, like because I'm like too way too shy to like. 00:14:23 Speaker 2: Do with that mask like the gratuo mustache and glasses or something. 00:14:27 Speaker 1: Yeah, like like gravity is or something. 00:14:30 Speaker 3: I don't fucking know, Like I would just be so like, you know, I'll just get creative. 00:14:34 Speaker 1: I'd feel like whatever it goes out. 00:14:36 Speaker 3: I mean as sure you come, you know, when you're out and about, like when you're at events and parties and stuff, like you said, like people probably come. 00:14:43 Speaker 1: Up to you. 00:14:44 Speaker 3: Do they ask you to compare constantly or is it like are you whipping out your you know, like constantly or you're like that's weird, Like don't do. 00:14:53 Speaker 2: That every now and then someone will make a joke about it, but like never seriously, really like most people just me out are like very very nice. I've really had a bad encounter. Like if if they're sober, they're going to be too shy to say anything. Most of the time, they'll just kind of stare at me, or maybe they'll like walk up close and like whisper like, hey man, love your work. When people are drunk, they're like, you know, they'll come up and shake hands and have a chat. But everyone. I'm lucky that everyone's really friendly. Like people are when they see me. They're stoke to see me. They want to tell their friends and get a selfie and stuff, and it's usually really wholesome. 00:15:29 Speaker 3: Oh no, I fucking love that. And like, I mean, yeah, like I can imagine you're like, guys, I've actually got a really nice personality. 00:15:37 Speaker 1: Like that's how I would feel. 00:15:39 Speaker 3: I'd be like guys, Like you know, see if like my boobs were famous for something, like, I'd like, guys, I've actually got a good heart. 00:15:47 Speaker 1: Like me, live my life like. 00:15:52 Speaker 2: A huge but I have a great personality. 00:15:54 Speaker 1: Yeah, I ass like I do. 00:15:59 Speaker 2: Put myself out there to be injectified in a lot of ways. You know, like a lot of my content is just the focus is on my meat. So you know, if people know me for that, honestly, it's kind of I prefer it when they know me for my pawn over my TikTok and Instagram because for me, it's so embarrassing, like making tiktoks and talking to the camera and posting those things, whereas like my porn, I'm so proud of that I could edit it all day long, but watching myself speak is like I won't be able to rewatch this video. I can't watch myself speak. It makes you too like embarrassed. 00:16:31 Speaker 3: Oh well, you're a great speaker, like you are a great conversation with mind you like I think like personally, like haven't. 00:16:39 Speaker 1: Subscribed yet, but like I'm just here to kind of go for a deep down. 00:16:43 Speaker 3: Because I was like, well I would, yeah, like I want to know, like who who been the girth master is? You know, like I wanted to know who you are, Like I didn't want you to think that as a like you know, an interviewer, a person who wants you on your podcast on my podcast being like yeah, I'm just going to use you for your your meat. Like I feel like that is just such a weird concept to me to like get like I'm like, that's just weird. 00:17:09 Speaker 1: That's very interesting to hear. 00:17:11 Speaker 3: Like you don't feel as confident maybe to post videos of yourself like sharing your life and everything, like do you ever share Like what do your friends and family like think of your industry like and what you do in it? 00:17:25 Speaker 1: Do they like do they care? 00:17:27 Speaker 2: No? No, one's everyone's been positive about it. You know, my friends are all so happy for me, and you jealous obviously all proud of me. The boys are just like stopped. I stopped sharing what I'm doing, and they'd stop like reacting to it because it's just like, oh, yeah, you know, they're at work and I'm hanging out with some famous porn star that they love. You know, they're so proud of me. And so it's the family, you know. I told all the family one by one and they're all, you know, told me I'm living every guy's dream and all that kind of things. So I'm really lucky, so supportive with it all, you know, because a lot of people don't have that much luck. 00:18:06 Speaker 3: Yeah, I know it was kind of this like taboo topic. Like I feel like as I've gotten older myself, like talking about sex in like was so taboo and like I didn't really talk about it, and I wish I did because I learned. I would have learned so much in maybe like you know, and healthy relationships with sex and everything like consent and like you know, all that sort of stuff. Like how because you know, I rock up to a set, right, I've get a call sheet. I get when I'm told to come in, I get told what to wear, wardrobe and make up, blah blah blah. I'm assuming you know what it is like very similar to you in terms of you're

filming like like a porn video. You it's pretty much the same thing, right, you get a call time you rock up, you're filming a set. 00:18:56 Speaker 2: The professional productions are very much like that. You know, there's a call sheet, wardrobe, everything like that, a full script, whatever they have to say. But my shoots, you know, I do on my own content. I kind of learned from like studying what they do because with me doing my own content and everybody else that does their own content, they make the rolls up as they go. So some people it's very you know, it's less than professional. But for me, I try to run it as professional as I can, still being a little independent production. So you know, there's a time to show up. I don't really tell them what to wear. I figure they can dress themselves better than I can dress them. You know, I don't know much about Wind's fashion. Just show up how you want to look on camera, and you know, we have a discussion about everything we might do during the scene and everything. But yeah, it's not too strict. I guess I try to keep it all very easy going. You know, we show showing. 00:19:46 Speaker 3: Up like it's still like a set, Like it's still like for you, it's still a job, like you're still filming and producing something, right. 00:19:54 Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely, I mean the set is my living room, but leave my house is the ladding and everything is it. I definitely turned it into a bit of a set, that's fine. 00:20:08 Speaker 3: And how often do you work with like like I obviously saw that you had recently worked with Blue Eyed Callejay, Like how often do you work with other creators? And is it a matter of like them reaching out to you or do you go hey, like actually no, I really want to work with that person, like and you reach out to them or is it kind of like yeah, how does it work? 00:20:27 Speaker 2: Yeah? So I tend to shoot around twice a week on average, I'd say, like sometimes more, sometimes less. You know, if I can build up I released one scene per week on my so I can build up a back then I can slowly release them take a bit of time off if I'm they don't feel like shooting for a few weeks. Uh. Then like as far as like contacting people with in the early days, it was a lot of me reaching out, you know, kind of cold calling girls in the industry, like, hey, I'd love to shoot with you sometimes if you, you know, want to shoot with me. These days, oh, you know, I don't really have to reach out to too many people, you know, I kin'd of knowdms. Bet there's a lot of people in my DMS that want to shoot, so, you know, every now and then I'll see someone that I really want to shoot with and I'll you know, make a connection with them. But yeah, I'm kind of spoilt the choice these days. 00:21:16 Speaker 1: Oh my god. Yeah. Okay, not a bad position. 00:21:19 Speaker 3: To be in, far out, But how do you then separate? Okay, like what is business and then what is. 00:21:27 Speaker 1: Pleasure for you? 00:21:28

Speaker 3: Because obviously what you're doing is a type of pleasure, and you're like, how do you separate them? 00:21:33 Speaker 1: Like do you still enjoy sex even though it's. 00:21:37 Speaker 2: I think if I stopped enjoying sex, I stop having sex for work. And I have to, like, you know, because I do this because I enjoy having sex and I love it. So it can be confusing sometimes because what we're doing is so intimate, you know, having sex with each other and then you know, you want to go back to just being entirely platonic. As you get more experienced with it, it gets easier to do that. You know, like you'll have sex and then high five, hit the showers and like just chat. So I've got all these all these women that I have like platonic friends with that I have sex with as well. You know, sometimes, as you can see on camera, like every shoot's a good shoot, but sometimes there's just so much more chemistry with certain people. And there's some scenes with the subscribers that message me like you two need to get married, Like holy shit, what was that? So it's definitely like sometimes there's more chemistry, and you know, I just think it's important at the end of the day to remember that we're all professionals doing our job, and it's kind of it can make someone uncomfortable if you're trying to keep things going off camera afterwards. So the rule that I'm good for myself is like I'll reciprocate what the women do, but I won't initiate anything. Like if they, you know, want to do something else, I'll reciprocate that, but I'm not gonna try and make the first move because for all, I know, they have like a husband at home and they're just trying to get back to their kids. 00:23:00 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I know. 00:23:01 Speaker 3: I think that's like you're exactly right, you're or professionals doing the job and like you know, you'll come and do this thing and that could you know, you have to kind of vibe and like kind of read each other and like that's yeah consensual, and you know, I like that kind of mentality in terms of things like if I feel confident in like initiating something like I'm going to do that, but like I don't maybe like feel as confident when someone's like. 00:23:23 Speaker 1: Oh, let's do this, I'm like, oh, I don't know if I was ready for that, especially. 00:23:30 Speaker 2: Yeah, their job, and like if I misread a situation and they just have to be really good actors and I'm like, oh, they're really into me. They were just pretend for the camera obviously, like that. 00:23:40 Speaker 3: You ever fallen in love with someone like unseat, like have you ever been like when was the last time you're in love? 00:23:47 Speaker 1: Or have you ever been in love. 00:23:50 Speaker 2: A while ago? You know? 00:23:54 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I don't know, well really high you know, especially as I'm doing his job and I'm you know, staying single help with the job. There's definitely been a few like situationships come and go here and

there. 00:24:07 Speaker 1: But yeah, well. 00:24:12 Speaker 2: Staying a single as like you know, yeah, it's not always easy, but it's what's best for what I'm doing. And because I've been moving around so much, you know, I had plans to move to la for a while. I'm living here now. I'm not going to be here forever. Someone I was back in Australia soon enough. Yeah, so I don't know, I don't remember string someone along and then break it. But yeah, don't try to do the right thing. 00:24:38 Speaker 1: And it's the commitment you've made to like your work and like that that makes total sense. Like, yeah, I could. 00:24:44 Speaker 3: I can imagine, Like it's a conversation that you'd have to have with someone and you're like, you know, like it can be like so so and like whatever you want to be with someone who like accepts the work that you do and cares about you. Yeah, of course I can imagine. Are you a bit of a romance king though, Like do you get to like live out your romance king dreams of? Like when you are doing your videos and content creationally, do you like you know, like I'm from the Bachelor. I don't know if you knew that, but I was a Bachelor and the Bachelorette. Like I love romance and like when it comes to like intimate things like yeah, like I'm going to romance. 00:25:23 Speaker 2: I'm a lover boy guilty, yeah and all that love it like which don't think it hard sometimes because like messages get this construed and it's like, I don't know, it's yeah, yeah, again, it's not easy to you know, be doing that kind of thing in general. But you know, I think I'm not looking for a relationship, you know what I mean. I feel like if I do get into what it has to be like hitting me with a sledgehammer. Unavoidable has to happen, because if you if I'm out there looking for one, I'm just going to like settle for one that I don't want. I don't know, and I'm just trying to focus on work so and can come in it's a bigger priority for me than work then who knows, but yeah, yeah, kind of looking for whatever's looking for me and taking it. 00:26:10 Speaker 1: Becomes what do you think? 00:26:12 Speaker 3: We probably touched on it a little bit before, but I feel like what is the biggest misconception of your industry. 00:26:20 Speaker 2: I think a lot of people think we're a lot what's the word. I think they underestimate just like how good a lot of the people in the industry are, you know, like from the outside looking and you think a lot of the people in port it's like a sleazy industry and the people like dirty and backstabby and stuff. But really everyone in the industry that I know is such a lovely person and they're so nice and friendly. And what I found is a lot of the people in the industry, like, you take a chance when you start, you know, having sex on camera, because that's you get excluded from so much a society doing that. So everyone in the industry is kind of they were in a situation in life where they didn't love they took a huge chance in joining the industry. So yeah, most people in the industry had just like frags to riches story behind them, and it's like really wholesome. 00:27:08 Speaker 1: Oh I love that. It's good to know. Do you still watch. 00:27:11 Speaker 2: Porn here and there? Yeah? Yeahs as you know, studying for work too. 00:27:17 Speaker 3: Truly literally business like, Yeah, what do you do in your other time when you're not creating videos, Like, do what do you enjoy? 00:27:26 Speaker 1: Do you still play video games? 00:27:28 Speaker 2: Yeah, I've been playing a bunch more lately, actually trying to like stay in the house. I just moved to LA, so I'm exploring a bunch, going to restaurants, yeah, taking road trips, driving around, a lot of hanging out with friends. And you know, it's LA, so there's a big social scene going out, meeting new people, kind of like networking, you know, I guess it's what it is that here in LA. 00:27:47 Speaker 3: But because it's I'd say like LA or the US is probably the best place. Do you feel like you should better than being in Australia? 00:27:55 Speaker 2: Like yeah, yeah, with the Internet, it's not you don't need to be in LA for it anymore. But just being heated, it seems like every creative is out here, you know, of very different description, and you go to a party and you meet all kinds of interesting people that can help you out in all different ways that other people you want to work with. You know, everyone comes to LA that wants to shoot videos. So if you live in here, yeah, I love that. 00:28:19 Speaker 3: I've really thoroughly enjoyed this chat. Girth Muster I'm just going to refecause no I've I've loved how personal you've been, and then thank you so much for sharing so much insight into the porn industry and your type of work and what you do. I have one funny ask question to ask you. I'm five foot two, as you will five foot one too. How many girth masters does it take to make up my height? I'm sure like, yeah, I do the quick math. I wouldn't really know this because this is hilarious because like if I was standing like how many. 00:28:57 Speaker 2: Seven and three quarters? So nearly eight. 00:29:01 Speaker 1: Seven? 00:29:02 Speaker 3: Holy ship? 00:29:05 Speaker 1: Oh my god? No, like I was singing on maybe like yeah, wow, I've got. 00:29:10 Speaker 2: A replica out there in stores. I'll have to I'll send you you see if they stuck. 00:29:13 Speaker 3: Up for real, there's a replica of you're like, oh my god, in in like sex stores like or online. 00:29:22 Speaker 1: You have to order it online for. 00:29:24 Speaker 2: A couple of years now, I think I then there was a company with the online rights in Australia, but I don't think they still have that. 00:29:32 Speaker 1: Do you get commission on that? 00:29:33 Speaker 3: Like do you get like every every cell board, like you know, I sell books? Like same thing, Like you get like a percentage, I mean very different. But I mean I'm not selling replicas. I mean I think I've got a great ass. Like if I could tell a replica of my ass, like that would be great. But yeah, but like GI knows, you're getting commission on it. Wow, that's impressive. I mean, you know, I'm in a in a lesbian relationship, like we we use this strap, like you know that's you can use it. 00:30:03 Speaker 1: Oh my god? So what was Can I quickly ask before I jump off? What was the process of doing that? Do you have to like mold? 00:30:10 Speaker 2: Yeah? It was. There were like four people in a room and they have this like big plastic tube that was like they filled with this like molding liquid, like had a hole in the top and a hole in the end. Right, So I put it on over myself. They having it a fully bricked. 00:30:28 Speaker 1: Up, full hard Yeah, okay, cover it in the tube. 00:30:31 Speaker 2: And they pull the liquid in and it sets as fast as it can. But you know, as soon as you stop interfering with yourself, this starts going down. So I'm just thinking the audience thoughts I can while this the mold, and yeah, it came out really good. 00:30:46 Speaker 3: Wow. Yeah, that that's like like I kind of mentioned like I'm literally the only thing I've molded is my mouth. God like, like I'm thinking, oh my god, that's so. That is hilarious. 00:30:58 Speaker 1: I love that. Thank you so much for coming on to First I've really enjoyed this chat. Guys. 00:31:03 Speaker 3: If you've loved this chat with the girth Master, please maybe put some questions and I'll put a question box maybe on my socials for you guys to answer. 00:31:10 Speaker 1: Hopefully we'll have the girth. 00:31:11 Speaker 3: Master on again and we can we can do like I don't know, you know how it's like you know when you have cards and you be like shit not shit like you know, like good bad, Like I could throw out some like like positions to you and you go overrated, but nah, like what's your what's your favorite position? Like, what's your favorite sex position? 00:31:33 Speaker 1: Missionary? Ah, yeah, you're a lover boy. You're such a lover boy. Well, bye, love a boy. Thank you so much for coming on to First Things for us. That's all we have time for today. But thank you so much for joining. And if you love what you hear, leave us a rating and review and if you want us to cover anything on the pod, reach out by our socials. If you want to follow girth Master, what's your socials? 00:31:57 Speaker 2: It's girth Master on everything, Instagram, TikTok if you literally everywhere. 00:32:03 Speaker 1: There you go. Yeah, be careful what you wish for guys. My hand was at from Doplin and we'll see you guys next time. 00:32:11 Speaker 4: Bye m h