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Good morning. It's Monday, November 9th, 2026.
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You're watching or listening to DeProgram
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with Ted Rall and Jamarl Thomas. A little bit
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of housekeeping in case you missed it. Over the
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weekend, we posted the Professor Zenkis interview.
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I would encourage you to go and check that out
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on YouTube or Rumble. Unfortunately, there was
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a glitch in the video. So it's audio only, but
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still worth it. I read some of the comments this
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morning from people who watched it, and they
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said they don't even care. It was worth watching.
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And we'll have Professor Zenkis's back, and we'll
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be able to show his pretty face, and it'll all
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be good. So, all right, here's what we've got
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today. We've got President Trump. The American
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people basically told him last Tuesday that they
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were done with him. They're stuck with him for
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another two years. It's kind of like that situation
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where the marriage is over. Your wife hates you,
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but you can't move anywhere until you sell the
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house. So you're stuck there for a couple of
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years and you just hate each other. It's a war
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of the roses situation. How does that even work?
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Hopefully it ends better than the war of the
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roses. House Republican leaders are saying that
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they may see an impeachment, a successful impeachment
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due to Republican defections of Pete Hegseth
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as early as this week. They are saying little
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Petey might be out. Oh, well, what is it? What
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is a young neo-Nazi, not homosexual person?
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In this job market, who knows? 2028 seems like
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it's more open, at least on the Republican side.
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Psychologically, especially Ron DeSantis, but
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also Brian Kemp and Ted Cruz, although I don't
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know what Ted Cruz is smoking, all think that
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they have a chance to step into the breach if
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J.D. Vance doesn't run. And there's rumors that
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he might not. I call bullshit on that, but we'll
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talk about that. I don't believe that for a moment.
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I think J.D. Vance is running now. The day that
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Donald Trump lost that first tweet was him putting
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his head out for the presidency. No question.
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No question. And not last and not least, Israeli
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President Isaac Herzog has sidelined Benjamin
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Netanyahu and has asked Gadi Eisenkot to form
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a new government. We'll talk about how that works
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and what it looks like. And also the story I
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was hoping that Jamarl, you would find interesting.
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I'm sure you heard about this Philadelphia bike
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boycott of Zionist businesses that has been completely
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perverted into an anti-Semitic, allegedly anti
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-Semitic boycott of Jewish businesses by the
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media and by Jewish politicians like Governor
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Shapiro. Anyway, lots to talk about. Please like,
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follow, and share. Put your comments into the
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live chat in YouTube and Rumble. It's Monday,
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which means this is a two-hour show. We go from
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9 to 11. We'll be back to one hour tomorrow.
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All right. Please choose. I don't mean to bury
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the lead, but let's start at that one. That one's
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interesting. Okay, let's do it. So my X feed
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over the weekend got suddenly filled starting
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on Friday, and then Saturday it blew up. With
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all these posts from politicians, particularly
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in Pennsylvania, but particularly Republican
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and particularly pro-Israel politicians, decrying
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what they called an anti-Semitic boycott of
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Jewish businesses in Philadelphia, a bike boycott.
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And I was like, so. Okay, we'll get into the
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logistics of what this looked like. What exactly
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is a bike boycott? Where you basically, they
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bike around and they basically say, I'm not going
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to shop here. They took note of the, they said,
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oh, this is on the anniversary of Kristallnacht.
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And this is an anti, this is a brazenly anti
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-Semitic move to isolate Jewish businesses.
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And of course, Kristallnacht was an
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extreme version of an anti-Jewish boycott. So
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I was like, this is like, I like to
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say, I quote my lawyer all the time here on the
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show where I say, not only is that not true,
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that cannot be true. And so I dug into it and
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buried deep under all the shit. And I would encourage
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my Philadelphia anti-Zionist friends to get
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better at SEO, search engine optimization, but
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it was really hard to find their official statement
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calling for the boycott but basically this left
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-wing bicyclist group said we are not anti-Semitic
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and these six restaurants were chosen specifically
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because they were militantly Zionist pro-Israel
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and had made statements in favor of
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Israel supporting the genocide. This was not, they
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specifically said we are not calling
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for a boycott of Jewish businesses, only Zionist
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businesses. But all these politicians nevertheless
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framed it as, it's really disturbing on
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the anniversary of Kristallnacht. Then people
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like me, and I had my post went viral, said,
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here's their, you've heard about this, go look
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at their statement. Here it is over here. And
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by the way, it's not the anniversary of Kristallnacht.
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The anniversary of Kristallnacht is today. It
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is not yesterday. And then they changed it. And
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then they, then all these right-wingers change
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it too. It's the eve of the anniversary of Kristallnacht.
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And I'm like, okay, what would you have done?
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If it was, it's the month of the anniversary
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of Kristallnacht. Where does
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it, it's the century of the anniversary.
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So anyway, the point is it's a lot
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of Zionist bullshit. So the result were that
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all these Jewish people showed up, presumably
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Jewish and people who sympathize with Zionists,
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showed up with their Israeli flags and they lied.
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Everybody go and patronize these businesses and
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show that Philadelphia is not anti-Semitic.
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And so the businesses did gangbusters business.
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And it's certainly true that there were more
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counter protesters than there were protesters,
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because after all, it's a little left wing bike
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group in Philadelphia. How big was it
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going to be anyway compared to the Zionist movement?
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But I gotta say before I turn
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it over to you the part that it's laughable
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but it's also disgusting because it let me and
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not really just because they're
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lying about people who are anti-Zionist which
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is bad but also because they lied
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about me. I got so many comments just for posting
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that thing like oh Hitler likes your
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tweet you're a Nazi blah blah
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blah. That's what they said, right? And
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I was like, okay, all right, fine. I'm laughing
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about it, but it's disturbing, right? But what's
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really disturbing to me is the fear-mongering
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that Jews are going to suffer. All this
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Zionist shit, and really this is true about the
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entire Zionist project going back to the 1880s,
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is you can't live with the goyim. They all hate
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you and want to kill you. And in this case, if
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you have a business, just because you're Jewish,
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they don't want to shop at your business just
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because you're Jewish. Right. And so therefore,
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you can't ever be at home in this country that
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you live in because of. And so. But that's not
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true. Jewish businesses are patronized
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every fucking day by non-Jewish people to the
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tunes of billions of dollars and will happen
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and will continue to be. Those restaurants are
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not, were not being bought. These were
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not the targets of anti-Semitism. Anti-Semitism
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is a real thing, but it wasn't here. And it's
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not nearly, it doesn't exist nearly to the
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scale that the Zionists say. And it's literally
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causing Jewish people to live in terror. The
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biggest anti-Jewish terrorists in the United
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States are Zionists. Can I ask you a question,
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Ted? Yeah. I'm listening to you just unpack this.
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I'm a numbers person, and this is breaking my
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brain. So Jews are about 2% of the U.S. population.
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The Republican Party captures about 9% of that
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2% vote. They proved that they destroyed their
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entire coalition for the support of the Zionist
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Jewish state of Israel. It was almost an extinction
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event. It was apocalyptic is the best way to
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put it. And now they're just doubling down even
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harder. Yep. Are Republicans really that tone
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deaf? There are a lot of Democrats involved in
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this shit too. Governor Shapiro and many other
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Democrats, corporates, Jeffries at the wailing
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wall if you guys want to see it. Yeah basically
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head on the wall doing this thing and
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I don't understand why anyone who's not
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Jewish is even allowed to do that but well they
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do that because it's them showing subservience.
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Oh I know that's what it is. By the way you guys
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are actually devoted I am to the one thousand
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dollars you've given me. It's Hakeem Jeffries.
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You heard right and then it's and then you
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have the Democratic Party who that's a whole
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sad conversation I'm not going to get distracted
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or just distracted. I will be disciplined or
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at the very least try. So look a few things and
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for one I agree with everything you just said.
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There's that. Two, Judaism and Zionism are obviously
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different things and yet Zionists often conflated
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with Judaism because they want to be able to
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pull Jews in to whatever the hell they're doing.
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It's almost like saying, hey, we're being ostracized
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because we committed a genocide. But they're
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really going after Jews, not just Zionists that
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are backing this genocide. So you Jews should
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be with us as Zionists. Okay, but these are different
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things. The conflation is done purposefully.
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Look at what Netanyahu does, right? We're
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the home of the Jews, like the home of the whoppers.
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And he would say that as an arch Zionist that
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is prosecuting a genocide. It's like, those are
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different things. And making those things different
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is what people like us and those bikers were
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trying to say. Look, we're not going after
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Jews. We don't give a shit about Jewish business.
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We're going after Zionist businesses that are
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backing and supporting the genocide and making
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statements to that particular support. And I
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would wager to you that those businesses are
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probably giving money to those causes, especially
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if those businesses are doing relatively well.
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So the biking group is perfectly right in saying
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we're against the genocide. These are guys for
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a genocide so we're against these businesses
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period. That's the point that they're trying
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to make and the conflation that's taking place
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is a conflation that takes place in general or
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that Zionists do in general. The other part
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about that is Zionists don't really care about
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the truth. No, it's not even a little
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bit no because they have political objectives
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that they want to accomplish and the truth gets
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in the way of those political objectives. How can you rationally argue we're going to murder
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hundreds of thousands of women and children.
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OK, usually that doesn't fly. Usually you need
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an excuse to exterminate a population. And I
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don't even know what excuse you could really
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use short of bugs. Right. We have
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too many dogs in Moscow, stuff like that. But
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human beings, they're not really many excuses
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that you can make to exterminate human beings.
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No. Hence, lying, lying, lying. Lying constant
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lying when you're looking at it on Twitter, social
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media, buying up television stations, the influence
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operations that take place and yeah buying Congress,
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lying constantly all throughout. So you shouldn't
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be shocked that they're just making up in order
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to prosecute a political agenda. That is what
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they do. That is what they do. Our job is to point
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out this is nonsense. These people are murderers
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and they're murderers who are trying to come
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up with justifications for that murder and they
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would basically that spans the gamut of other
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things of people who are trying to prosecute
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them for that murder in a social sense. Hence,
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this bike group going after these restaurants.
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Yeah, I'm not shocked by the line at all. The
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line is just - There ought to be consequences
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though. There really ought to be consequences
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for the governor of a state being so irresponsible
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that he knows or he should have known his
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staff should have known. It didn't take
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me long to find out the truth. You mean Zionist
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Shapiro. Yeah, Zionist Shapiro should not be. He
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should be held accountable for posting misinformation
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disinformation to his official government feed
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for the governor of the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania.
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He's a Zionist. Sure. He was signing bombs with
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his Sharpie. Do you think that at least that's
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not a lie? At least we know he signed the bombs.
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I guess the key point is he is a Zionist. They
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have political objectives. And he said this is
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an anti-Jewish boycott. It's not because he
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conflates Zionism with Judaism, just like Netanyahu
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conflates Zionism with Judaism. They do it for
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purpose. Yeah put it this way what you just said
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earlier when you were making your comments about
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how it's unfortunate that they're scaring Jews
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in this way in order to basically gain some level
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of support from those scared Jews. Okay you're
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answering the question that line is pursuant
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to that effect meaning that effect is not a bug
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that effect is a feature. They're coming after
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you. You guys are unsafe. Hey lump in with us Zionists.
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It's that right. It's the conflation
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between these things with this idea that an
attack
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on Zionism is an attack on all of Judaism, which
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is nonsense. The conflation is done because they're
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a small percentage compared to Jews in general,
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especially if you're talking about the United
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States. And just be clear, those Jews voted for
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El-Said. Those Jews voted for... Exactly. I
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mean, that's the thing, right? Who the fuck is this tiny minority of Jews? And
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by the way, not all Jews, as Robby likes to
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point out a lot, who claim
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to speak for all Jews. Look, the way
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I look at it is, I have more Jewish friends
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and acquaintances than I can count, right? And
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it's like, they all, I live in New York.
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I have lived in New York for years. It's like
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I probably know more Jewish people than Catholic
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people. And I grew up Catholic. It's like the
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point is that these people gave it the epigenetics
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office. OK, they've been through the
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shit for centuries. The last thing they need
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is their own co-religionists terrorizing them
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into thinking that everyone's coming to kill
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them. It's really the last thing they need. They
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have plenty of legit reasons to be afraid
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from the past. They don't need people like Josh
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Shapiro terrorizing them too. Yeah. But that's
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like saying, they make this argument
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like Zionism and Judaism are the same thing.
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This is nonsense. This is almost like saying
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- Not in this country, they're not. Being an
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American and being, it's like being
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black and an American are the same thing. Okay.
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Or being black and a Democrat are the same thing.
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It's like, well, you don't even need to call
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them black. Just call them Democrats. Okay. That
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would be nonsense. A political movement, it's
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not the same thing as an ethnical religious entity.
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Especially when that political movement doesn't
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even get the support of 50% of that religious
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group, right? By the way, it happened so fast,
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but it's a dramatic move, right? I've been saying
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that Israel is a pariah state and will never
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have the support again. AIPAC, you've heard this,
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right? AIPAC has completely said we will no longer
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donate money under our own name ever again. Because
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it gets no brain for the book. They are disbanding.
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Of course, they're still going to be sprinkling
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money out to candidates, but under their shell
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corporations, under their fronts. But basically,
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they're in deep shit, right? It's like
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Blackwater. Like how Blackwater murders a bunch
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of people. It became Z, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
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That's like, but the
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point is, it says a lot. Right. Your brand,
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Zionism's brand is completely toxic. As
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Robby said, Zionism is the number one. I think
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it's even bigger part of the reason that the
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Republicans lost the election than the shit ass
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economy. It's all intertwined. It's intertwined.
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Look, from the point of view
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of a lot of Republicans. I think there are a
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few things. MAGA split in two. So you get the
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Marjorie Taylor Greene's, the Tucker Carlson's,
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the Megyn Kelly's, these people going after Trump
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for the things that he was doing from the standpoint
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of the war, from the standpoint of the murdering
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of kids, like from Israel, backing Israel
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to the hilt as they murder kids and everything
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else. This impression that Trump is being maneuvered
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by Netanyahu, meaning you went to war for foreign
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power and damaged our country as a result. You
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get to split MAGA over this stuff, which is
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problematic by itself, right? Because these people
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may punish you for failing in regards to your
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responsibilities. The Israel thing is big also.
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It comes across as if you let a foreign power
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take us to war. Well, we know that's true. We
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know that's true. And the genocide. Many of them
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hate the fact that you were murdering babies.
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The
Megyn Kelly's of the world, the Tucker
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Carlson's of the world has said okay that you
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guys can murder all of these babies and still
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call yourselves Christians. This was one of the
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refrains that Tucker Carlson was making. Yeah
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and the wrong war. There are a few things. Yeah
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I agree. I guess before we move on I just want
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to the part that pisses me off is
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there's a sizable percentage
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of Jews who attended the counter protest
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and they didn't they were lied to. And they did
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not know this was only the targets were
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only Zionist businesses, not Jewish businesses.
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We must stand for. It's a fascist. It's a fascist
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march. These are anti-Semitic assholes. This
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is like the mark on the march on Skokie, Illinois.
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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's what they were scared.
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Right. They were scared into it based on identity
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issues. By the way, one thing that was going
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around is some Zionist group, they had lawyers
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serve the little bike group with papers. And
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they said, oh, you're put
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on notice that you have to, we're going to sue
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you. You have to keep, preserve all
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your documentation, blah, blah, blah, blah. This
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is my favorite. Yes. I don't know. It's like,
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there's still a first amendment in this country.
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I was like, yeah, but my favorite part was, if
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you look really carefully, it says served by
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Instagram instant message. And I was like, what?
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I was like, all lawyers let her in. I was like,
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wait, it's like never hire lawyers who serve
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processes via Instagram. I am. Don't do that.
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It's just. Part of it's a Tuesday. It's like for
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them it's just a political objective. It's razzle
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dazzle. It's flim flammery. Yeah. I'm JT. I'm sure that you saw it. I want to say
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it's like two months ago maybe. Jonathan Greenblatt
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he was on doing it. Yeah. And he was just
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like, if you are anti-Semitic or anti-Zionist,
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you will not get a job. You will not get married.
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You will not have a home. I have an army of lawyers
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ready to destroy you. So tell me how that doesn't
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play into the trope that the Jews rule the world.
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You've got this bald rat, this human rat. Please
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don't call him a rat. Just come out here and
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just do this. Please don't call him a rat. I've
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got worse. No, that was used by Nazis. Yes. That
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is going to be seen as anti-Semitic and they're
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going to use that shit as credibility. It's an
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anti-Semitic trope. Okay, how about a leech
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then? That's also one. Anything parasitic. Parasitic,
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yeah. Okay, that heifer. Heifer is still open.
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You can use heifer. In fairness though, I really
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don't care what they call me. It does not matter.
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But the point I'm trying to make is people keep
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tiptoeing around these people. They're fucking
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evil. So these people are actively going out
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on social media saying, we're going to destroy
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you for exercising your free speech. But the
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American people are so afraid of being called
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a bad name that you're going to give them all
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that power? From Robby West. But they're not
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afraid anymore. Screw you. But they're not afraid
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anymore. Yeah, I think they did, to be honest.
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It worked for years. Yeah, for years. But now
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it's like, you guys are committing a genocide.
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You've murdered 100,000 people, at least. And
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we're tired of your shit. And they would say,
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that's blood libel. No, motherfucker, you did
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that. We watched you do it. Plus, blood libel
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is about eating babies. Yeah, I know, but they
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would say, that's blood libel. If you ever watch
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many of these guys when they're having debates
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and stuff like that, and when you bring up, look,
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your state is doing this, they would say, that's
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blood libel. They would use it all the time.
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It's like, I don't even think you guys know what
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blood libel is. They don't just use it. They
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know
people don't know what it is, in which case
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they would just say, that's blood libel. I think
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as soon as, I just want you to think
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about this for a second. So you've got this guy
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who's going out on social media saying, if you
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have an opinion that is not approved, we're going
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to destroy your life. Yeah. And Americans are
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so afraid of being called a bad name. Well, that's
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like the people. Are we that cucked? During the protests on campuses,
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right? Where there were the doxing trucks and
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they were going after literally putting the photos
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and names and home addresses and birth dates
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of 19 year old college girls on and driving
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them through the streets of major cities like
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New York City and saying this, the Ivy League's top anti-Semite. And this is
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like your daughter, right? What
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the fuck? It does play into the trope.
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Like, oh, behind the scenes, there's a nefarious,
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evil Jewish cabal that's going to destroy you.
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And there's literally anti-Semitism.
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You know what it's like? It's like in 1984. There
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was no resistance, really, right? And the party
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decided that they kind of needed a resistance,
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so they made up this fake one, Emanuel Goldstein,
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the leader of the so-called resistance. There
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was no Emanuel Goldstein. In a way, we're almost
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at that. There's almost no anti-Semitism, real
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anti-Semitism in the U.S. So the ADL and these
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other groups, they're making it up. They're counting
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every time someone sends a letter to the editor
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saying that they are against the genocide. And
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this is true. The ADL counts that as an anti-Semitic
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incident. Yes. Yeah they do. Because from
00:24:02.420 --> 00:24:04.640
their point of view calling it a genocide by
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definition is anti-Semitic which is nonsense
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right. Like we put it this way if people
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want to know what it looks like to lose a political
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fight it's looking at Israel right now totally.
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Meaning with all the propaganda and everything
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else all the money that they could spend on congressional
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leaders and get the Democratic Party not to bring
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up Palestinians and everything else. The majority
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of the public still looks at it as either ethnic
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cleansing or genocide, meaning the language that
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was being used as a weapon against them worked.
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Do you think the ADL or these other right-wing
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Zionist groups, do you think they'll catch on
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at some point and change the rhetoric? They would
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change rhetoric, yes. Or they would try to use
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a different method, yes. But they're not changing
00:24:46.950 --> 00:24:49.029
strategy. No, no, no, I don't mean that. I mean
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the rhetoric. Because it's obviously not landing.
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It's not landing in the way that it was, no.
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From my point of view, they have hundreds
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of millions of dollars and oceans of psychopaths
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to try to figure out new language to get what
00:25:05.880 --> 00:25:08.200
they want from a political standpoint. The problem
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is you've committed a genocide either way. Just
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because you're changing how you're giving
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money and what groups you're using to give money
00:25:16.259 --> 00:25:18.420
to Democrats. The reality of it is the public
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is still with this perspective. You've murdered
00:25:21.059 --> 00:25:24.119
hundreds of thousands of human beings, the overwhelming
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majority of which are women and children, I don't
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know what language you're going to use to get
00:25:28.359 --> 00:25:31.450
out of that. I just don't. I just don't. Also,
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I think it's psychology, right? I think, it's really important to understand the way Americans,
00:25:36.890 --> 00:25:39.609
as opposed to Europeans, Europeans live
00:25:39.609 --> 00:25:42.349
and breathe politics every day. You go to a cafe
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or a bar, people are always talking politics.
00:25:45.549 --> 00:25:49.869
The least informed Belgium is better informed
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than the best informed American policymaker.
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They're on top of everything. They're informed.
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In this country. For a variety of reasons,
00:25:59.609 --> 00:26:02.730
cultural, people are working three jobs and whatever.
00:26:02.930 --> 00:26:05.089
There's a lot of, the point is we don't do politics
00:26:05.089 --> 00:26:08.250
like that here. So for years when
Israel was
00:26:08.250 --> 00:26:10.630
doing all of its shit, the American people didn't
00:26:10.630 --> 00:26:12.609
really pay attention because for the most part,
00:26:12.690 --> 00:26:14.789
they'd all learned, oh, Israel came out of World
00:26:14.789 --> 00:26:17.589
War II and it's the Jewish state. And, oh, and you always heard the
00:26:19.569 --> 00:26:21.529
same thing. Well, how it is over
00:26:21.529 --> 00:26:23.049
in the Middle East. They've been fighting for
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thousands of years. It just is what it is. And
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. They used to always say that. And then,
00:26:28.569 --> 00:26:36.670
okay, so the thing is, after the 2023 to 2002,
00:26:36.670 --> 00:26:39.990
well, ongoing genocide, but that really peaked
00:26:39.990 --> 00:26:45.009
out in 2024, 2025, that era suddenly was
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sort of one of those moments where Americans,
00:26:47.309 --> 00:26:49.089
they start to pay attention to this issue
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that they don't normally pay attention to. And
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it was, they couldn't ignore it. They paid attention
00:26:54.630 --> 00:26:57.589
and they're like, oh shit. We were wrong. Okay,
00:26:57.690 --> 00:27:00.109
they're assholes. And then they put Israel in
00:27:00.109 --> 00:27:02.430
the asshole box. And, now they're in the
00:27:02.430 --> 00:27:06.230
asshole box. Now, to get out of the asshole box
00:27:06.230 --> 00:27:09.990
with the American people would, is at this point,
00:27:09.990 --> 00:27:13.849
almost impossible. It's now, even if they fucking
00:27:13.849 --> 00:27:17.490
changed everything, their whole jam, even if
00:27:17.490 --> 00:27:19.930
they apologized for what happened and all that,
00:27:20.029 --> 00:27:21.809
it wouldn't matter because they're in the asshole
00:27:21.809 --> 00:27:26.450
box. For generations, we just don't pay that
00:27:26.450 --> 00:27:30.109
much attention, and it would take decades, and
00:27:30.109 --> 00:27:32.609
something new would have to happen. It would
00:27:32.609 --> 00:27:35.450
be like, actually, look, oh, the
00:27:35.450 --> 00:27:38.609
first Palestinian president of Israel. Oh, oh,
00:27:38.630 --> 00:27:40.910
fuck, things have changed. That's what
00:27:40.910 --> 00:27:42.690
it would have to take, and that's not going to
00:27:42.690 --> 00:27:45.049
happen, right? I agree with you wholeheartedly.
00:27:45.210 --> 00:27:48.650
It's almost like just. Just as human beings.
00:27:48.809 --> 00:27:50.529
I remember this guy in Portugal said, I was like,
00:27:50.569 --> 00:27:52.109
they've been fighting for thousands of years.
00:27:52.170 --> 00:27:58.099
And it's like, no, they haven't. Right. Yeah,
00:27:58.220 --> 00:27:59.880
you're right. It's for a generation. Because
00:27:59.880 --> 00:28:01.460
you have to think about it. Everybody who's alive
00:28:01.460 --> 00:28:04.400
right now that is cognizant of what just happened
00:28:04.400 --> 00:28:07.259
will keep that memory in their minds for the
00:28:07.259 --> 00:28:10.140
rest of their life. It's not changing. And they're
00:28:10.140 --> 00:28:12.859
not reading up on this every day, right?
00:28:12.940 --> 00:28:15.240
No. What they see, they see on social media.
00:28:15.319 --> 00:28:17.490
Oh, my God. People are being murdered. Israelis
00:28:17.490 --> 00:28:20.329
are doing it. Oh, my God. All of these people
00:28:20.329 --> 00:28:21.970
have died. Even if you just go by the numbers
00:28:21.970 --> 00:28:25.089
that they put out, 70,000 people have been
00:28:25.089 --> 00:28:28.509
murdered by Israel. Meaning it's going to be
00:28:28.509 --> 00:28:30.549
hard to get out that box. Especially, I will
00:28:30.549 --> 00:28:32.809
tell you, from the standpoint of Blacks. Blacks
00:28:32.809 --> 00:28:34.569
are very sympathetic to what is happening to
00:28:34.569 --> 00:28:36.890
Palestinians. It was from a Blacks' point of
00:28:36.890 --> 00:28:43.279
view that happened to us. Yeah, it did. African
00:28:43.279 --> 00:28:45.019
-Americans. And I remember when they were talking
00:28:45.019 --> 00:28:47.160
to Cory Booker, these Israeli designers, and
00:28:47.160 --> 00:28:48.700
they were like, yeah, let's not forget that apartheid
00:28:48.700 --> 00:28:51.400
South Africa were butt buddies with Israel. Yep.
00:28:51.519 --> 00:28:54.289
That's another one. And so they asked Cory Booker,
00:28:54.369 --> 00:28:56.809
hey, how do we get more black people to support
00:28:56.809 --> 00:28:58.490
us? Because black people don't really support
00:28:58.490 --> 00:29:00.690
us like that. And Cory Booker's thing was like,
00:29:00.769 --> 00:29:02.089
well, you got to get them young. You got to get
00:29:02.089 --> 00:29:03.950
them early. You got to get them and start giving
00:29:03.950 --> 00:29:05.410
money to them when they're first getting out
00:29:05.410 --> 00:29:07.509
of school and that type of stuff. So you can
00:29:07.509 --> 00:29:11.170
basically groom them over the course of their
00:29:11.170 --> 00:29:13.859
time period. Nice. And you're looking at it and
00:29:13.859 --> 00:29:16.259
you're like, God, you're a disgusting person.
00:29:17.269 --> 00:29:20.329
What a degenerate that you're basically trying
00:29:20.329 --> 00:29:22.529
to figure out. How do I get more Black people
00:29:22.529 --> 00:29:24.710
to support a genocidal regime? How about changing
00:29:24.710 --> 00:29:27.990
the policy? How about that? Yeah. Oh, that didn't
00:29:27.990 --> 00:29:32.509
come up. That's not in the cards. That's not
00:29:32.509 --> 00:29:34.009
in the cards for the people who are paying you.
00:29:34.150 --> 00:29:36.109
How came Jeffries... Because I made this argument,
00:29:36.190 --> 00:29:41.089
and just transition, that we need to plebiscite.
00:29:42.700 --> 00:29:46.240
And I don't mean the architecture of, let's
00:29:46.240 --> 00:29:49.240
say, the Democratic Party, the population
00:29:49.240 --> 00:29:51.920
that call themselves Democrats should have a
00:29:51.920 --> 00:29:54.019
plebiscite underneath the political structure
00:29:54.019 --> 00:29:57.259
that currently exists. Because from my point
00:29:57.259 --> 00:29:59.519
of view, it's like, okay, we've had an election
00:29:59.519 --> 00:30:02.660
where Democrats sweep into Congress, but the
00:30:02.660 --> 00:30:04.519
public really hasn't won anything because the
00:30:04.519 --> 00:30:07.160
public never asks for anything, right? It's not
00:30:07.160 --> 00:30:08.960
like the public says, this is what we demand.
00:30:09.240 --> 00:30:11.960
It was more like, please, we need a restraint
00:30:11.960 --> 00:30:14.319
on Trump. And it's like, okay, it's nice that
00:30:14.319 --> 00:30:16.079
you were able to take Texas and take all of these
00:30:16.079 --> 00:30:19.619
places. You may get 56 seats in the Senate. You
00:30:19.619 --> 00:30:21.920
may get an ungodly number of seats in the House.
00:30:22.279 --> 00:30:24.900
So you guys now have power that the American
00:30:24.900 --> 00:30:27.359
public has given to you as a mandate. But there
00:30:27.359 --> 00:30:30.759
was no mandate. Nothing was given. That's my
00:30:30.759 --> 00:30:33.420
column this week. There's no specifics, right?
00:30:33.559 --> 00:30:36.420
There's no specifics. It's only we hate Trump.
00:30:36.799 --> 00:30:39.460
Okay, so you put people in power without any
00:30:39.460 --> 00:30:42.039
sort of demand or anything being offered for
00:30:42.039 --> 00:30:44.480
those people being in power. The public that's
00:30:44.480 --> 00:30:46.359
underneath the political structure that is the
00:30:46.359 --> 00:30:48.680
Democratic Party should have a plebiscite and
00:30:48.680 --> 00:30:51.400
determine what do we want? Because otherwise,
00:30:51.500 --> 00:30:53.779
you're not going to get anything. Yeah, it could be a plebiscite only for registered
00:30:55.640 --> 00:30:58.140
Democrats or - Registered Democrats. And I don't
00:30:58.140 --> 00:30:59.980
mean the party structure. If they want to vote,
00:31:00.059 --> 00:31:01.619
okay, then they get one man, one vote like anybody
00:31:01.619 --> 00:31:03.839
else. But obviously, that's going to be drowned
00:31:03.839 --> 00:31:05.599
out by the overwhelming majority of the public
00:31:05.599 --> 00:31:07.599
over the course of the entirety of the country.
00:31:07.700 --> 00:31:09.670
That's like 30% of the country. They should
00:31:09.670 --> 00:31:11.769
choose and decide what they want in addition
00:31:11.769 --> 00:31:13.309
to the consequences if they don't get what they
00:31:13.309 --> 00:31:15.650
want. Yeah, they could do the equivalent of Trump's
00:31:15.650 --> 00:31:19.410
midterm convention. Yes. That's a great idea.
00:31:19.490 --> 00:31:23.069
That's a fucking fantastic idea. How do you convene
00:31:23.069 --> 00:31:26.369
it is the issue. Yeah, that's, well, you could,
00:31:26.450 --> 00:31:28.210
you
could call a people's convention.
00:31:28.230 --> 00:31:33.869
In 1892, there was a short-lived populist party
00:31:33.869 --> 00:31:37.119
that had a convention in Cincinnati. And basically,
00:31:37.160 --> 00:31:38.819
it was like, come one, come all. We're going
00:31:38.819 --> 00:31:41.839
to talk shit over. And, you can do
00:31:41.839 --> 00:31:44.940
it that way. Yeah, because otherwise, none of
00:31:44.940 --> 00:31:48.349
this matters. It's like we're lurching forward
00:31:48.349 --> 00:31:50.609
as a country in a particular direction with nobody
00:31:50.609 --> 00:31:53.190
choosing a direction short of capital being that
00:31:53.190 --> 00:31:55.170
way. If it's profitable, we're going to move
00:31:55.170 --> 00:31:57.230
in that direction. And I mean that from the standpoint
00:31:57.230 --> 00:32:00.970
of the political parties that, meaning, put it
00:32:00.970 --> 00:32:03.509
this way, if nobody asks you for anything and
00:32:03.509 --> 00:32:05.109
you have hundreds of millions of people across
00:32:05.109 --> 00:32:07.920
the country, And yet you have a concentrated
00:32:07.920 --> 00:32:11.480
1% that is putting a huge amount of money into
00:32:11.480 --> 00:32:13.720
the political apparatus on both sides in order
00:32:13.720 --> 00:32:15.920
to get it to lurch in a particular direction,
00:32:16.119 --> 00:32:17.940
meaning you put in a Democrat, the Democrats
00:32:17.940 --> 00:32:19.819
lurches a particular way, but it's always moving
00:32:19.819 --> 00:32:22.059
in one specific direction. It's not like Democrats
00:32:22.059 --> 00:32:25.640
claw back whatever Republicans do. Whatever Republicans
00:32:25.640 --> 00:32:27.740
do just becomes the standard in the country as
00:32:27.740 --> 00:32:30.000
Democrats take over. You're lurching in a particular
00:32:30.000 --> 00:32:33.359
direction. Capital is the only thing that's putting
00:32:33.359 --> 00:32:35.420
money into that particular direction because
00:32:35.420 --> 00:32:37.119
you don't have the public as a counterbalance
00:32:37.119 --> 00:32:39.519
to whatever the hell capital is doing. The public
00:32:39.519 --> 00:32:41.940
is out of it, despite the fact that they vote
00:32:41.940 --> 00:32:44.619
for those people to go into office. There needs
00:32:44.619 --> 00:32:46.700
to be something where the public makes demands
00:32:46.700 --> 00:32:49.869
that this is what we want, meaning we're unmistakably
00:32:49.869 --> 00:32:53.450
very clear this is what we want. And if you don't
00:32:53.450 --> 00:32:56.130
do this, you will suffer political consequences.
00:32:56.190 --> 00:32:58.880
By the way, same thing for the Republicans. Same
00:32:58.880 --> 00:33:00.859
thing for the Republicans. Totally. You would
00:33:00.859 --> 00:33:02.500
think that they would do the exact same thing.
00:33:02.500 --> 00:33:04.319
How do we move forward? Yeah, what should we
00:33:04.319 --> 00:33:06.279
do? How do we move forward? Yeah. Yeah, how can we be
a loyal opposition? How can we
00:33:09.000 --> 00:33:13.119
stand up for our Republican values? What do you
00:33:13.119 --> 00:33:15.680
Republican voters want? Now, that's a good idea.
00:33:16.380 --> 00:33:18.680
We have a lot of comments. I wanted to just pimp
00:33:18.680 --> 00:33:21.759
my new book. It comes out Wednesday called No
00:33:21.759 --> 00:33:25.279
More Mr. Nice Guy. Cartoons on war, empire, and
00:33:25.279 --> 00:33:28.200
other delusions. It's full color. And everything's
00:33:28.200 --> 00:33:31.160
more expensive to print and everything. So you
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can get an Amazon starting Wednesday for $25.
00:33:34.039 --> 00:33:36.640
Or if you want an autographed copy by yours truly,
00:33:36.799 --> 00:33:39.480
it's $35 more if you live on the other side
00:33:39.480 --> 00:33:41.240
of the world. But in the U.S., that's shipping
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included. You just go to my website, rall.com
00:33:44.200 --> 00:33:46.859
and slash books. Or if you just forget, just
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go to rall.com and you'll see the books tab.
00:33:49.160 --> 00:33:52.099
Very cool, Ted. Badass. Thank you. Thank you.
00:33:52.519 --> 00:33:56.059
That's so cool. By the way, John Helmer has a
00:33:56.059 --> 00:34:00.019
book coming out. Oh, cool. And he is not pulling
00:34:00.019 --> 00:34:02.809
punches. He's going after podcasting. Because
00:34:02.809 --> 00:34:06.069
his argument is podcasting has turned into propaganda.
00:34:08.050 --> 00:34:11.550
Not here. Not here on the program. No, but he
00:34:11.550 --> 00:34:13.809
has other names like Napolitano, McCurris, et
00:34:13.809 --> 00:34:16.690
cetera, et cetera. Well, that's true. Larry Johnson,
00:34:16.869 --> 00:34:18.250
I think is another one he named. Totally true.
00:34:18.750 --> 00:34:21.610
God, every morning I wake up and watch the YouTube
00:34:21.610 --> 00:34:25.250
and Rumble live podcast. I'm like, oh, God. Okay,
00:34:25.329 --> 00:34:29.500
we have a bunch of... Let's do them. F you so.
00:34:30.360 --> 00:34:32.400
Thanks for the dono. You hear about the new J
00:34:32.400 --> 00:34:35.119
.D. Vance book? It's called Hillbilly Eulogy.
00:34:37.699 --> 00:34:40.179
That's kind of like my take last week. I was
00:34:40.179 --> 00:34:43.500
thinking, I want J.B. Pritzker to run against
00:34:43.500 --> 00:34:46.599
J.D. Vance just so we can have a J.B. versus
00:34:46.599 --> 00:34:51.519
J.D. contest just because. Why not? And then
00:34:51.519 --> 00:34:54.539
maybe we settle in the middle with J.C., Jesus
00:34:54.539 --> 00:34:58.789
Christ. I don't know. Okay. FUSO, the problem
00:34:58.789 --> 00:35:00.690
with Israelis is that they have beanie envy.
00:35:02.559 --> 00:35:05.760
Beanie envy? Yeah. I don't know what
00:35:05.760 --> 00:35:08.440
that means. They support them. Like penis
00:35:08.440 --> 00:35:12.920
envy. I think FUSO is in a punning mood. Okay,
00:35:12.960 --> 00:35:15.539
FUSO, did you know
that they make you remove
00:35:15.539 --> 00:35:19.280
your Christian cross before doing the wall humiliation
00:35:19.280 --> 00:35:22.300
ritual? I saw that. I don't wear a Christian
00:35:22.300 --> 00:35:28.469
cross, but I did when I was a kid. All right.
00:35:28.489 --> 00:35:36.099
Let's see. OK. Oh, OK. Ag for 6478. I hope you
00:35:36.099 --> 00:35:40.079
have a guy to discuss Brett Weinstein's movement
00:35:40.079 --> 00:35:42.719
announcement. Yeah, we are going to talk about
00:35:42.719 --> 00:35:44.699
that. Thank you, Robby, for doing the research
00:35:44.699 --> 00:35:47.960
on that movement announcement. What's that, Robby?
00:35:48.039 --> 00:35:52.949
You want to come in and talk about that, Robby?
00:35:53.110 --> 00:35:56.409
There you are. Yeah. Yeah. So basically what
00:35:56.409 --> 00:35:59.739
it is, it's. The best way I can think of to describe
00:35:59.739 --> 00:36:02.619
it is a roadmap for the populist right and populist
00:36:02.619 --> 00:36:05.739
left to work together and just crush the establishment
00:36:05.739 --> 00:36:10.000
between the two wings. I see. And so I wasn't
00:36:10.000 --> 00:36:13.579
able to do a deep study into it. I was able to
00:36:13.579 --> 00:36:16.480
put together a document for Ted yesterday because
00:36:16.480 --> 00:36:18.079
yesterday was a full day at church. I had a normal
00:36:18.079 --> 00:36:20.079
church service. Then we had to sing Spiration.
00:36:20.199 --> 00:36:23.900
It took like four hours, so it was wild. Inspiration.
00:36:24.219 --> 00:36:26.079
Sing Spiration. So you just get together like
00:36:26.079 --> 00:36:28.840
a... Our church and some other people from other
00:36:28.840 --> 00:36:30.440
churches here locally all got together and just
00:36:30.440 --> 00:36:32.840
sang hymns and stuff. I thought they kicked you
00:36:32.840 --> 00:36:36.750
out. Oh, I was removed from the social media.
00:36:39.800 --> 00:36:42.179
Oh, I see. You stayed with the church. Yeah,
00:36:42.380 --> 00:36:44.599
I'm still in the church. I'm just not allowed
00:36:44.599 --> 00:36:47.559
to. You haven't been excommunicated yet. No,
00:36:47.679 --> 00:36:53.980
I'm working on that. Tell them when that happens,
00:36:54.079 --> 00:36:56.059
like, okay, fine, but I'm taking God with me.
00:36:56.429 --> 00:37:01.670
Right. Right. Right. Because I really don't
00:37:01.670 --> 00:37:04.489
know who's more afraid of me saying naughty
00:37:04.489 --> 00:37:08.429
things y'all or them. I don't care seriously.
00:37:08.429 --> 00:37:12.630
No. Seriously. Yeah. I call Jonathan
00:37:12.630 --> 00:37:15.130
Greenblatt a rat because that's what he is. Don't
00:37:15.130 --> 00:37:18.889
say that. Oh but the dude he's coming out
00:37:18.889 --> 00:37:23.769
historical JT, the guy is coming out on TV saying,
00:37:23.909 --> 00:37:26.889
if you oppose our genocidal project, we are going
00:37:26.889 --> 00:37:28.889
to make it where you cannot get married. You
00:37:28.889 --> 00:37:30.989
can't get a job. You can't have, you can have
00:37:30.989 --> 00:37:35.070
nothing. So of the two, of the two, which sin
00:37:35.070 --> 00:37:38.150
is greater? Me calling him a, if y'all like
00:37:38.150 --> 00:37:39.829
the word rat, I'll call him a ferret. But the
00:37:39.829 --> 00:37:44.150
point is, the guy's disgusting. Completely disgusting.
00:37:44.429 --> 00:37:47.610
And he's talking about actively using his political
00:37:47.610 --> 00:37:50.630
power, which he has in abundance, to punch down
00:37:50.630 --> 00:37:53.289
and destroy people who disagree with this genocidal
00:37:53.289 --> 00:37:55.030
project in the Middle East that you pay for,
00:37:55.130 --> 00:37:57.510
I pay for, Ted pays for, and the Palestinians
00:37:57.510 --> 00:38:00.510
sure as hell pay for it. So I don't care about
00:38:00.510 --> 00:38:03.070
his feelings. That's not about his feelings.
00:38:03.510 --> 00:38:05.489
Jamarl doesn't care about their feelings. I don't
00:38:05.489 --> 00:38:08.309
care about Zionist feelings either. It's not
00:38:08.309 --> 00:38:10.090
about feelings. It's not about his feelings.
00:38:10.750 --> 00:38:14.789
Look, it's a... There's a historical... It's
00:38:14.789 --> 00:38:17.710
like calling a black politician a monkey. It's
00:38:17.710 --> 00:38:22.469
just... It's too historically loaded. Ted, people
00:38:22.469 --> 00:38:24.449
call me a Nazi all the time and no one cares.
00:38:24.869 --> 00:38:26.869
That's how historically loaded. Not all white
00:38:26.869 --> 00:38:32.090
people are... Thank you, Ted. Not all Jews are
00:38:32.090 --> 00:38:35.110
rats either, yet here we are. Right, but there's
00:38:35.110 --> 00:38:40.949
no historical tradition of white people being
00:38:40.949 --> 00:38:43.590
automatically smeared as Nazis
00:38:43.590 --> 00:38:46.510
whereas there is of Jews being automatically
00:38:46.510 --> 00:38:49.269
smeared. We're definitely called colonizers. We're
00:38:49.269 --> 00:38:51.349
called plenty of things.
00:38:51.949 --> 00:38:55.969
But y'all did colonize this country. I understand.
00:38:57.170 --> 00:39:01.469
Including your own relatives, yo. A hundred percent.
00:39:01.489 --> 00:39:04.130
My ancestors are right here. The Zanes and the
00:39:04.130 --> 00:39:05.849
Greys are right there and they're with them in
00:39:05.849 --> 00:39:09.530
the Appalachians. I get it. It's also fair to
00:39:09.530 --> 00:39:12.949
say that there were some people who wore tiny
00:39:12.949 --> 00:39:18.090
little white hats that cooperated with the Islamic
00:39:18.090 --> 00:39:22.530
armies in Iberia and in the Balkans. That's not
00:39:22.530 --> 00:39:24.650
anti-Semitic. That's historical fact.
00:39:25.190 --> 00:39:28.030
So you can't have it both ways. If one is right,
00:39:28.969 --> 00:39:31.150
one is wrong. I don't want to go down this rabbit
00:39:31.150 --> 00:39:35.010
hole, but I don't see the correlation at all.
00:39:35.190 --> 00:39:37.489
I do
not see the correlation. I will explain
00:39:37.489 --> 00:39:39.409
it because y'all are good liberals. I'll explain
00:39:39.409 --> 00:39:42.050
it to you later. No, we look and listen to everything
00:39:42.050 --> 00:39:44.369
you just said. I don't see how what you just
00:39:44.369 --> 00:39:46.469
said is associated with the historical thing
00:39:46.469 --> 00:39:49.980
of. Jews being called rats. In propaganda posters.
00:39:51.119 --> 00:39:54.440
I don't see how these things. Antisemitic cartoons.
00:39:55.559 --> 00:39:58.960
Then what we can do one day is we can have a
00:39:58.960 --> 00:40:01.739
full show and I will unpack this for you. Okay.
00:40:03.719 --> 00:40:08.079
Rumble premium episode only. 100% did be on
00:40:08.079 --> 00:40:12.659
Rumble because YouTube would nuke it. I've studied
00:40:12.659 --> 00:40:14.579
this a lot and I'll make the case for it. As
00:40:14.579 --> 00:40:19.860
have I. You just say, fair enough. What you guys
00:40:19.860 --> 00:40:23.820
just said was true. We just move on. What we
00:40:23.820 --> 00:40:25.820
just said was flat fact true. We explained it
00:40:25.820 --> 00:40:28.679
thoroughly. One has a historical connotation
00:40:28.679 --> 00:40:32.260
to it. The other one is just... Those are two
00:40:32.260 --> 00:40:35.820
different things. Totally. Yeah. It's
00:40:35.820 --> 00:40:38.440
like the N-word, right? I remember my
00:40:38.440 --> 00:40:40.480
kid asking me one time, not about the N-word,
00:40:40.519 --> 00:40:44.199
but about bad words, cursing, when he was a little
00:40:44.199 --> 00:40:46.860
kid. And he said, oh, are words bad? And I said,
00:40:47.130 --> 00:40:49.349
No, words aren't bad. Words are just, they're syllables. But they carry cultural connotations.
00:40:54.409 --> 00:40:56.929
And so he's like, oh, so if I say a bad
00:40:56.929 --> 00:40:59.750
word, am I a bad person? It's like, no,
00:40:59.889 --> 00:41:02.050
but you might get in trouble in certain contexts.
00:41:02.329 --> 00:41:05.110
It's like, and is that fair? Sometimes yes, sometimes no. And, the N
00:41:07.170 --> 00:41:09.210
-word is like that, right? I'll give you an example.
00:41:09.329 --> 00:41:10.989
Look, the South Korea thing. What's the guy who
00:41:10.989 --> 00:41:12.750
went over to South Korea, started having, humping
00:41:12.750 --> 00:41:17.639
the... The statue for all of the people that
00:41:17.639 --> 00:41:20.880
were raped and basically used as comfort women
00:41:20.880 --> 00:41:24.139
by the Japanese. They put him in prison over
00:41:24.170 --> 00:41:27.449
that. And, he did a lot of
00:41:27.449 --> 00:41:29.730
other things, but they put him in prison specifically.
00:41:29.750 --> 00:41:31.070
He's in prison right now. I can't think of his
00:41:31.070 --> 00:41:34.340
name. He's a kick streamer. Again, if you did
00:41:34.340 --> 00:41:37.190
that in the United States, nobody cares. You
00:41:37.190 --> 00:41:39.710
can do that. Tape yourself. Open a statue in
00:41:39.710 --> 00:41:41.030
the U.S. and people are like, oh, that's funny.
00:41:41.989 --> 00:41:44.190
You can do that in other countries, right? Shit
00:41:44.190 --> 00:41:46.630
has historical connotations to it. It
00:41:46.630 --> 00:41:48.309
just is what it is. I don't know what it is.
00:41:50.570 --> 00:41:52.869
Phileas, not only is that not true, it can't
00:41:52.869 --> 00:41:55.630
be true. I like what the Nobel physicist Paul
00:41:55.630 --> 00:42:00.550
Dirac used to say. That's not even wrong. That's
00:42:00.550 --> 00:42:02.690
not even a category of truth and wrong. That's
00:42:02.690 --> 00:42:05.730
so good. I love that. Thank you. I'm going to
00:42:05.730 --> 00:42:09.730
steal that. F you so. Isn't blind libel when
00:42:09.730 --> 00:42:11.590
she didn't tell you that she was on the rag until
00:42:11.590 --> 00:42:15.409
it was too late? By the way, I never understood
00:42:15.409 --> 00:42:17.949
the thing where guys don't like to have sex with
00:42:17.949 --> 00:42:19.550
women when they're on their periods. I'm like,
00:42:19.590 --> 00:42:22.389
it's natural. It's gross. It's natural. It's
00:42:22.389 --> 00:42:25.250
like biology. Oh, that's so gross. That's why
00:42:25.250 --> 00:42:29.079
God invented dark towels. Well, sure. Going to
00:42:29.079 --> 00:42:31.159
the toilet is biology. It's still gross. Sure.
00:42:32.199 --> 00:42:34.679
But that's a place where people normally have
00:42:34.679 --> 00:42:36.719
sex. It's like, I remember when I found out about
00:42:36.719 --> 00:42:38.900
that when I was young, I was like, well, I'm
00:42:38.900 --> 00:42:41.480
not skipping sex for three to five days a month.
00:42:41.619 --> 00:42:45.019
Are you kidding? No. I had no issue. I'm
00:42:45.019 --> 00:42:47.480
working through this. I'll wait until you finish.
00:42:50.349 --> 00:42:52.409
All right. There's an area of disagreement here.
00:42:52.889 --> 00:42:55.570
U.S. XXX A-Rod, long time no see. Thanks for
00:42:55.570 --> 00:42:57.530
the five dollars. Fundamentally, do you guys
00:42:57.530 --> 00:42:59.269
think the Israeli election results change anything?
00:42:59.489 --> 00:43:04.809
Let's talk about that. So what's going on? Well,
00:43:04.909 --> 00:43:07.690
Eisenkot is so OK. So here's what I think happened.
00:43:07.750 --> 00:43:10.130
Right. So under a parliamentary system like Israel,
00:43:10.190 --> 00:43:12.750
we had that professor come in and explain this.
00:43:12.829 --> 00:43:15.170
But this is like what happened to the UK, too.
00:43:15.250 --> 00:43:20.880
Right. So. You needed 61 seats to win to be able
00:43:20.880 --> 00:43:24.780
to form a government automatically. Neither the
00:43:24.780 --> 00:43:27.559
Netanyahu nor the Eisenkot bloc achieved that.
00:43:27.780 --> 00:43:30.480
So to get that, they have to form a coalition
00:43:30.480 --> 00:43:34.119
with smaller parties. Now, Netanyahu has clearly
00:43:34.119 --> 00:43:36.760
stated in no way, shape
or form, is he going
00:43:36.760 --> 00:43:39.460
to accept any alliance with the Arab parties
00:43:39.460 --> 00:43:41.360
who performed really well and could get him
00:43:41.360 --> 00:43:43.440
over the finish line. Not to mention, I doubt
00:43:43.440 --> 00:43:46.460
that they would be willing to sign up with him
00:43:46.460 --> 00:43:49.360
anyway. And he's also arguing nobody else should.
00:43:49.860 --> 00:43:53.679
Eisenkot had promised not to also, because he's
00:43:53.679 --> 00:43:56.800
also pro-genocide and all that. But
00:43:56.800 --> 00:44:00.699
he was a little bit squirrelier about it, kind
00:44:00.699 --> 00:44:03.340
of he didn't really rule it out categorically.
00:44:04.940 --> 00:44:08.500
And Eisenkot clearly, behind the scenes, is reaching
00:44:08.500 --> 00:44:11.179
out to the Arab parties and seeing if he can
00:44:11.179 --> 00:44:14.219
negotiate. Both Netanyahu and Eisenkot visited
00:44:14.219 --> 00:44:18.260
the president of Israel, Isaac Herzog. That's
00:44:18.260 --> 00:44:20.199
a largely ceremonial position, except for times
00:44:20.199 --> 00:44:23.980
like this. And they basically said, hey, let's
00:44:23.980 --> 00:44:29.199
go ahead and, and obviously Herzog
00:44:29.690 --> 00:44:31.989
did what I would have done in his position. He's
00:44:31.989 --> 00:44:33.690
like, well, the guy who says he's willing
00:44:33.690 --> 00:44:36.489
to talk to, most likely to form a coalition
00:44:36.489 --> 00:44:40.849
to get to 61 votes is the guy who I'm going to
00:44:40.849 --> 00:44:44.329
let do it. So under the basic law, Israel doesn't
00:44:44.329 --> 00:44:47.369
have a constitution. It has a basic law. Under
00:44:47.369 --> 00:44:51.610
the basic law, he has 21 days to come back and
00:44:51.610 --> 00:44:55.670
say, hey, listen, I failed or I succeeded. Or
00:44:55.670 --> 00:44:58.210
he can ask for a one-time seven-day extension.
00:44:58.880 --> 00:45:03.380
And so that's it. I think Eisenkot is off trying
00:45:03.380 --> 00:45:06.199
to work with the Arab parties. Now, the question
00:45:06.199 --> 00:45:09.440
is what the Arab parties would demand in return
00:45:09.440 --> 00:45:15.940
for that. Nothing, you think? So everything you
00:45:15.940 --> 00:45:18.679
said is right. The president could also call
00:45:18.679 --> 00:45:21.300
for snap elections or new elections. Basically,
00:45:21.980 --> 00:45:24.239
nobody can form a government. We're having new
00:45:24.239 --> 00:45:26.980
elections, which he can also do, if I remember
00:45:26.980 --> 00:45:31.150
correctly. Look, I saw a report that the Arab
00:45:31.150 --> 00:45:33.050
parties were willing, and I don't remember where
00:45:33.050 --> 00:45:34.750
I saw this. I have to look this back up, that
00:45:34.750 --> 00:45:36.369
they were willing to form a government with the
00:45:36.369 --> 00:45:38.929
Eisenkot if it would get rid of Netanyahu without
00:45:38.929 --> 00:45:41.989
asking for anything, just purely get rid of him.
00:45:42.969 --> 00:45:46.769
Right. In a weird way, their ask is basically
00:45:46.769 --> 00:45:50.460
we want him gone, which would happen if they
00:45:50.460 --> 00:45:52.219
formed the government, even if they didn't necessarily
00:45:52.219 --> 00:45:57.219
get any political compensation for it. Now, the
00:45:57.219 --> 00:46:00.139
rub is. Who knows if Eisenkot would even do
00:46:00.139 --> 00:46:04.730
that? He set up these demand lists of
00:46:04.730 --> 00:46:08.019
what political parties would need in order to
00:46:08.019 --> 00:46:10.900
join with him. What he may be trying to do also
00:46:10.900 --> 00:46:13.039
is get people who were working with Netanyahu's
00:46:13.039 --> 00:46:15.820
team to pull on his side, basically to try to
00:46:15.820 --> 00:46:17.440
get members from the other party. I don't know
00:46:17.440 --> 00:46:19.059
how successful that was going to be. It's like getting Democrats to come over to Republican
00:46:21.119 --> 00:46:23.260
side in order to form a government. I don't know
00:46:23.260 --> 00:46:25.519
if it's going to work that way. The Arab Party
00:46:25.519 --> 00:46:28.969
is obviously the go-to if you want to take
00:46:28.969 --> 00:46:32.250
and form a government directly. Will he do that?
00:46:32.730 --> 00:46:35.969
That's a good question. Even if what's true is
00:46:35.969 --> 00:46:39.809
they're asking for nothing, would Eisenkot still
00:46:39.809 --> 00:46:42.010
do it? Netanyahu's obviously been trying
00:46:42.010 --> 00:46:45.110
to burn the ground on that front, seed the ground
00:46:45.110 --> 00:46:46.829
to make sure that that doesn't necessarily happen
00:46:46.829 --> 00:46:48.389
because he knows they would never form a government
00:46:48.389 --> 00:46:50.489
with him. The only people the Arab government
00:46:50.489 --> 00:46:53.550
would ever form a government with is Eisenkot,
00:46:53.610 --> 00:46:56.250
despite the fact that he's a sociopath himself.
00:46:58.380 --> 00:47:03.460
But I think it's interesting that Herzog gave
00:47:03.460 --> 00:47:08.800
it to Eisenkot first when Netanyahu had more seats.
00:47:09.239 --> 00:47:12.159
Yeah, but, if you, it's like chess,
00:47:12.380 --> 00:47:15.019
what's more likely to happen here? If you're
00:47:15.019 --> 00:47:18.239
Herzog. Netanyahu doesn't have a path. Eisenkot
00:47:18.239 --> 00:47:21.139
has a path. Eisenkot has a path. That's the road.
00:47:21.340 --> 00:47:22.539
That's all. Which is what I find interesting.
00:47:22.800 --> 00:47:25.659
Herzog had to know that. It's not a simple, if
00:47:25.659 --> 00:47:28.670
it was a simple plurality issue. Then you wouldn't
00:47:28.670 --> 00:47:31.369
need Herzog to make a decision. Right. That could
00:47:31.369 --> 00:47:34.469
just be in the basic law that whoever wins the
00:47:34.469 --> 00:47:37.769
most votes, unless it's a tie, gets to try to
00:47:37.769 --> 00:47:39.170
form a government. But that's not the system.
00:47:39.940 -->
00:47:42.380
Yeah. It's just the fact that Netanyahu doesn't
00:47:42.380 --> 00:47:45.860
have a pathway to the prime ministership. The
00:47:45.860 --> 00:47:47.480
Arab party is never going to form with Netanyahu.
00:47:47.719 --> 00:47:52.260
I think the Arab parties, well, it's hard. Look,
00:47:52.360 --> 00:47:54.860
we're in the prediction business here. I'm going
00:47:54.860 --> 00:47:56.760
on a limb. I'm not real sure about this, but
00:47:56.760 --> 00:47:58.820
I'm more sure than I'm not sure. I think that
00:47:58.820 --> 00:48:01.440
Eisenkot will form an alliance with the Arab
00:48:01.440 --> 00:48:03.480
parties, and I think they will demand a little
00:48:03.480 --> 00:48:06.659
more than just no Netanyahu. I think they're
00:48:06.659 --> 00:48:09.739
going to want to see some changes in policy.
00:48:12.250 --> 00:48:15.070
They might want releases of prisoners. They might
00:48:15.070 --> 00:48:19.429
want an end, no more military operations,
00:48:19.650 --> 00:48:23.789
and they might want a crackdown on the settlers.
00:48:23.869 --> 00:48:28.739
I imagine that would be on the short list. But
00:48:28.739 --> 00:48:30.480
see, I'm not sure Eisenkot would do any of
00:48:30.480 --> 00:48:33.659
those things. I think he wants, I think he really
00:48:33.699 --> 00:48:38.420
wants to be prime minister. Oh, I don't
00:48:38.420 --> 00:48:40.300
doubt that he wants to be prime minister. I just
00:48:40.300 --> 00:48:41.900
don't think he would give those type of political,
00:48:42.039 --> 00:48:44.659
. But he has, he won't be prime minister
00:48:44.659 --> 00:48:46.460
unless he does that. I guess the question is,
00:48:46.480 --> 00:48:49.409
can an Israeli prime minister do that? They usually don't. Well, that's a good
00:48:51.210 --> 00:48:55.929
question. With leadership, you can. If you're able to. But that's what a political
00:48:58.710 --> 00:49:01.110
leader is. We haven't had political leaders in
00:49:01.110 --> 00:49:04.570
this country in my entire life. But a leader
00:49:04.570 --> 00:49:08.110
says, listen, he explains it to the people. He
00:49:08.110 --> 00:49:10.050
frames it. He says, this is why we've got to
00:49:10.050 --> 00:49:12.190
do it. I know you don't want to, but here's why
00:49:12.190 --> 00:49:16.429
I think we need to do it. Lay out your case.
00:49:17.030 --> 00:49:19.809
Look, Netanyahu, let's put this in context,
00:49:20.010 --> 00:49:25.150
right, for the viewing audience. Despite everything
00:49:25.150 --> 00:49:28.119
over the course of Netanyahu's term. October
00:49:28.119 --> 00:49:30.420
7th, meaning I'm the guy that keeps you safe.
00:49:30.519 --> 00:49:32.300
He didn't keep him safe. And you find out you
00:49:32.300 --> 00:49:34.860
knew about it in advance. The hot digits were
00:49:34.860 --> 00:49:36.840
on the streets, one eighth of the population
00:49:36.840 --> 00:49:40.380
was out there protesting, et cetera, all
00:49:40.380 --> 00:49:42.800
throughout this. They never took issue with the
00:49:42.800 --> 00:49:46.769
war. None of those things are really entirely
00:49:46.769 --> 00:49:49.230
about the war. But the war is kind of already
00:49:49.230 --> 00:49:52.070
over, right? It's like they've already
00:49:52.070 --> 00:49:55.190
destroyed Gaza. They've already taken over more
00:49:55.190 --> 00:49:57.789
than half of the West Bank. They've already established
00:49:57.789 --> 00:50:03.230
this massive genocide DMZ, buffer zone
00:50:03.230 --> 00:50:06.250
in, not DMZ, buffer zone in southern Lebanon.
00:50:06.510 --> 00:50:09.269
It's kind of like the Israelis kind of
00:50:09.269 --> 00:50:12.250
got what they came for. Yeah, but they still
00:50:12.250 --> 00:50:14.510
put him in office, meaning they still voted for
00:50:14.510 --> 00:50:16.610
him in the majority as opposed to - He's also
00:50:16.610 --> 00:50:18.949
incredibly corrupt and the Israeli people know
00:50:18.949 --> 00:50:22.469
that. And I think they'll be enjoying themselves
00:50:22.469 --> 00:50:25.829
watching Netanyahu on trial. Yeah, but if it
00:50:25.829 --> 00:50:27.769
was a popular vote, they still voted Netanyahu.
00:50:28.230 --> 00:50:31.090
Meaning even with all of that being said, that
00:50:31.090 --> 00:50:33.550
was still their guy. True, he didn't have enough
00:50:33.550 --> 00:50:35.750
for a plurality where he could form a government.
00:50:36.230 --> 00:50:39.369
Like I said, I'm not sure. This is like, if you
00:50:39.369 --> 00:50:42.110
forced me, I'd rather not bet on it if this is
00:50:42.110 --> 00:50:44.849
Kalshi. But if I had to, this is the way I would
00:50:44.849 --> 00:50:47.429
bet. No, I accept that. I'm just pointing out
00:50:47.429 --> 00:50:50.530
that the public itself in Israel, in a popular
00:50:50.530 --> 00:50:54.059
vote, chose Netanyahu over Eisenkot. They knew
00:50:54.059 --> 00:50:56.280
who they were voting for and they still voted
00:50:56.280 --> 00:51:01.400
for him after all of that. Because they're shitheads.
00:51:01.599 --> 00:51:04.539
They are shitheads. They're fascist shitheads.
00:51:04.539 --> 00:51:07.739
That's true. But the idea that that population
00:51:07.739 --> 00:51:12.719
that still voted Netanyahu in majority, meaning
00:51:12.719 --> 00:51:15.199
he didn't necessarily be able to take prime ministership
00:51:15.199 --> 00:51:17.579
with what he has, but they still voted more for
00:51:17.579 --> 00:51:20.099
him than he did for Eisenkot. That population is
00:51:20.099 --> 00:51:23.360
not going to be on board for, hey, let's rein
00:51:23.360 --> 00:51:28.739
in the settlers. Let's let some people go. That's
00:51:28.739 --> 00:51:30.380
not going to be for that. They've showed you
00:51:30.380 --> 00:51:32.300
what they were for by voting in Netanyahu. And
00:51:32.300 --> 00:51:33.940
it's not like Eisenkot is not a psychopath himself.
00:51:34.820 --> 00:51:38.119
Well, but Eisenkot's block wants to come to power,
00:51:38.260 -->
00:51:39.960
right? And it's not, by the way, he didn't come
00:51:39.960 --> 00:51:43.179
way behind Netanyahu. It's not an outlandish
00:51:43.179 --> 00:51:46.599
gap. It's a very small gap. It's de facto
00:51:46.599 --> 00:51:50.699
almost a tie. But it's not a tie. It's a point
00:51:50.699 --> 00:51:52.760
that I'm making. You can say de facto, but de
00:51:52.760 --> 00:51:55.300
facto tries to mind the gap. I'm not minding
00:51:55.300 --> 00:51:56.719
the gap. Yeah, but it's a parliamentary system.
00:51:56.840 --> 00:51:59.780
This is how it works, right? Adolf Hitler
00:51:59.780 --> 00:52:02.719
came to power in 1933 with 37% of the vote.
00:52:03.380 --> 00:52:07.559
True. I accept that. I'm just, again, I'm just
00:52:07.559 --> 00:52:10.659
saying, from a popular vote standpoint, they've
00:52:10.659 --> 00:52:13.739
chose Netanyahu in regards to we want more people
00:52:13.739 --> 00:52:17.159
in this camp than the other camp. While there
00:52:17.159 --> 00:52:19.730
is a small gap. The gap still exists, which means
00:52:19.730 --> 00:52:22.550
the majority still chose Netanyahu in spite of
00:52:22.550 --> 00:52:25.710
everything else. And again, the gap is small
00:52:25.710 --> 00:52:28.090
because both of them are psychopaths. Right.
00:52:29.469 --> 00:52:31.650
It's kind of like, yeah, it's a difference of
00:52:31.650 --> 00:52:33.909
flavor. It's not really a difference of... Yeah.
00:52:33.909 --> 00:52:35.449
It's like, this guy's Coke, this guy's Pepsi.
00:52:35.510 --> 00:52:38.230
The caloric content is basically the same. Yeah.
00:52:38.230 --> 00:52:41.250
Yeah. It's like Coke and Pepsi, which one you
00:52:41.250 --> 00:52:44.369
want? And you get 48, 51 or something like that.
00:52:44.530 --> 00:52:46.469
And people are like, it's like, but because they're
00:52:46.469 --> 00:52:48.929
so similar. It feels like when Hillary Clinton
00:52:48.929 --> 00:52:51.789
and Obama was running. Okay, the distinguishing
00:52:51.789 --> 00:52:53.949
characteristic with this guy is he's Black. Not
00:52:53.949 --> 00:52:56.090
his politics, per se. Hillary Clinton is more
00:52:56.090 --> 00:52:58.570
of a psychopath, true. But both of them are psychopaths.
00:52:58.690 --> 00:53:00.849
This guy just wants to be Black. It's a different
00:53:00.849 --> 00:53:03.550
flavor. But what you're getting is not radically
00:53:03.550 --> 00:53:07.719
different. I don't know if Eisenkot can do
00:53:07.719 --> 00:53:09.800
what you're asking him to do. I agree with you
00:53:09.800 --> 00:53:11.760
that leadership is trying to guide a direction,
00:53:11.860 --> 00:53:14.309
but leaders are ultimately on a power block.
00:53:14.449 --> 00:53:16.449
The power block is based on who's under that
00:53:16.449 --> 00:53:18.030
particular leader. The leader's not a thing unto
00:53:18.030 --> 00:53:20.349
himself. If the leader goes against a power block,
00:53:20.570 --> 00:53:23.030
he will be replaced. Meaning the only reason
00:53:23.030 --> 00:53:25.170
that a leader can do what he wants to do on some
00:53:25.170 --> 00:53:27.010
level is because he has a buy-in from the majority
00:53:27.010 --> 00:53:29.869
in regards to how he does it. I don't know if
00:53:29.869 --> 00:53:32.050
they're going to get the buy-in. Again,
00:53:32.190 --> 00:53:34.150
60% of the population thought it was okay for
00:53:34.150 --> 00:53:36.429
rape, raping a Palestinian when they came here.
00:53:36.889 --> 00:53:39.809
They got caught on camera. This is the population
00:53:39.809 --> 00:53:42.969
that you're saying, the leader of which, is going
00:53:42.969 --> 00:53:45.389
to somehow restrain the settlers. It's going
00:53:45.389 --> 00:53:49.570
to somehow, make, give in to the demands
00:53:49.570 --> 00:53:51.769
of the... Look, that may be completely
00:53:51.769 --> 00:53:54.630
impossible, like you say. Yeah. We've got a couple
00:53:54.630 --> 00:53:56.929
more comments and then we've got some breaking
00:53:56.929 --> 00:54:00.510
news. Okay, so question for you, Jamarl. John
00:54:00.510 --> 00:54:05.590
Doe, what's a plebiscite? A group of people.
00:54:08.679 --> 00:54:10.380
No, it's all right. We can barely hear it. It's
00:54:10.380 --> 00:54:12.219
like in the background. A group of people. Okay.
00:54:12.400 --> 00:54:16.050
It's so loud in my ear. I imagine, yeah. A group
00:54:16.050 --> 00:54:20.349
of people coming together of a particular coalition
00:54:20.349 --> 00:54:24.110
to vote and to make decisions in regards to where
00:54:24.110 --> 00:54:26.289
they want to go in a direction. So think of it
00:54:26.289 --> 00:54:30.550
like Soviet bloc, where you have Soviets and
00:54:30.550 --> 00:54:32.510
all of these people coming from these different
00:54:32.510 --> 00:54:35.789
branches of the Soviet or the Russian government
00:54:35.789 --> 00:54:38.929
to come together under the government itself
00:54:38.929 --> 00:54:41.150
to make determinations in regards to what they
00:54:41.150 --> 00:54:43.380
want and the demands that they want. You can
00:54:43.380 --> 00:54:47.019
look at it in even our own country, the revolution
00:54:47.019 --> 00:54:50.320
stuff, the people coming together to make
00:54:50.320 --> 00:54:52.099
decisions about what the Constitution is, everything
00:54:52.099 --> 00:54:53.940
else. Isn't a plebiscite just a national vote?
00:54:54.119 --> 00:54:57.119
In the U.S., the closest thing would be
00:54:57.119 --> 00:54:59.460
a California state referendum. That's a
00:54:59.460 --> 00:55:02.320
plebiscite. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that works too.
00:55:02.619 --> 00:55:04.179
It's like, this is what we want. These are our
00:55:04.179 --> 00:55:07.019
demands. And it's something that, in my mind,
00:55:07.059 --> 00:55:09.559
is happening under the political structure. The
00:55:09.559 --> 00:55:11.400
political structure is no longer credible. It
00:55:11.400 --> 00:55:13.760
doesn't work. It's a national vote that's not
00:55:13.760 --> 00:55:16.300
about electing a candidate. It's a national vote
00:55:16.300 --> 00:55:19.199
or it's a state. It's a vote. A plebiscite is
00:55:19.199 --> 00:55:22.599
Crimea, for example, in 2014 held a plebiscite
00:55:22.599 --> 00:55:25.920
to see if they wanted to stay in Ukraine or go
00:55:25.920 --> 00:55:30.460
back to Russia. And they voted to return to Russia.
00:55:30.659 --> 00:55:33.860
That's a plebiscite. So it's a vote not for elected
00:55:33.860 --> 00:55:36.340
officials. It's a vote over an issue. That's
00:55:36.340 --> 00:55:41.150
what a plebiscite is. What are the issues that
00:55:41.150 --> 00:55:44.070
people care about? Yeah. And what are the demands?
00:55:44.369 --> 00:55:46.110
You wouldn't normally have a plebiscite over
00:55:46.110 --> 00:55:49.590
a minor issue. You could, but that's not normally
00:55:49.590 --> 00:55:51.909
the way it's done. You could have it over something
00:55:51.909 --> 00:55:54.590
like, oh, do we want alternate side of the street
00:55:54.590 --> 00:55:56.630
parking? You could have a plebiscite, but you
00:55:56.630 --> 00:56:00.949
wouldn't probably. No, I'm thinking larger. It's
00:56:00.949 --> 00:56:04.010
usually over issues of major import. Yeah. But
00:56:04.010 --> 00:56:07.570
it doesn't have to be. Okay so Schizo Ted do
00:56:07.570 --> 00:56:09.670
you sign your other books also what happened
00:56:09.670 --> 00:56:13.530
to the aforementioned dancing monkey tears subscription
00:56:13.530 --> 00:56:19.030
Yes I do sign my other books. The
00:56:19.030 --> 00:56:21.190
you can just I'm just putting this one back up just
00:56:21.190 --> 00:56:23.929
for a second. So yeah you if you go to rall
00:56:23.929 --> 00:56:26.389
.com slash books and it's up on the screen right
00:56:26.389 --> 00:56:30.070
now you'll see that there's the option to have
00:56:30.070 --> 00:56:31.670
autographed, personally autographed. You can
00:56:31.670 --> 00:56:34.190
say how you want to autograph it. You can have
00:56:34.190 --> 00:56:37.869
it sent to a friend or whatever. It is the holiday
00:56:37.869 --> 00:56:41.309
season is upon us. So don't forget that. That's
00:56:41.309 --> 00:56:43.730
so cool. So anyway. How did you publish that?
00:56:43.789 --> 00:56:45.210
Did you go through Amazon or do you have a publisher?
00:56:45.309 --> 00:56:48.010
I went through Amazon for this one because nobody
00:56:48.010 --> 00:56:52.309
wants to publish. Nobody wants to publish. What
00:56:52.309 --> 00:56:55.409
are they called? Cartoon collections
00:56:55.409 --> 00:56:57.389
anymore. It's been a long time. When I was a
00:56:57.389 --> 00:56:59.670
kid, you'd see all the Garfield and peanuts
00:56:59.670 --> 00:57:02.090
collections up at the, by the front of a store
00:57:02.090 --> 00:57:04.389
by the register. And they started getting rid
00:57:04.389 --> 00:57:06.969
of them. Even by the nineties,
00:57:07.050 --> 00:57:10.030
it was like, they went to the humor ghetto in
00:57:10.030 --> 00:57:12.750
the second floor by the bathroom. And they pretty
00:57:12.750 --> 00:57:17.010
much even my, even my syndicate, which owns,
00:57:17.070 --> 00:57:22.309
which owns a publishing arm. Doesn't
00:57:22.309 --> 00:57:25.329
like to publish cartoon books anymore. So it's
00:57:25.329 --> 00:57:28.690
like, so basically it's like, but I was really,
00:57:28.750 --> 00:57:31.030
so this cartoon that's on the cover, No More
00:57:31.030 --> 00:57:34.190
Mr. Nice Guy, it goes viral over and over and
00:57:34.190 --> 00:57:36.429
over and over and over again. It's been one of those, every time someone posts it, if you need hundreds of thousands of clicks on
00:57:41.090 --> 00:57:44.969
your X feed or your Facebook, just put that cartoon
00:57:44.969 --> 00:57:47.349
up there. It just goes crazy every time. And
00:57:47.349 --> 00:57:50.159
so I was like, okay, well, I'll just do a cartoon
00:57:50.159 --> 00:57:53.639
a book around that and it's all basically goes
00:57:53.639 --> 00:57:55.679
all the way back to the 90s but it just shows
00:57:55.679 --> 00:57:58.739
you see the repetition of all the same kind of
00:57:58.739 --> 00:58:01.519
themes and the crap of American imperialism
00:58:01.519 --> 00:58:03.780
and exceptions doesn't change. That's so cool.
00:58:03.780 --> 00:58:09.179
I'll send you a copy. Thank you. I appreciate
00:58:09.179 --> 00:58:12.019
that. Thank you. Signed please. Oh signed of course.
00:58:12.019 --> 00:58:18.019
Okay so Ted Matita wants to know when you
00:58:18.019 --> 00:58:20.360
autograph will you write a personal message or
00:58:20.360 --> 00:58:22.400
just your name? If you request a personal message,
00:58:22.639 --> 00:58:25.179
I will write a personal message. Ted, I would
00:58:25.179 --> 00:58:28.119
like a personal message, please. I will send
00:58:28.119 --> 00:58:30.500
you a personal message. Because there's no way,
00:58:30.519 --> 00:58:34.900
Bob Cobb buys the book. Ted, please send
00:58:34.900 --> 00:58:37.500
me a personal message. You know nothing about
00:58:37.500 --> 00:58:40.199
Bob Cobb. No, but if they say, oh,
00:58:40.300 --> 00:58:42.239
sometimes they just want it to say something
00:58:42.239 --> 00:58:45.699
like, it's for a friend, right? Whatever. It's usually
00:58:49.019 --> 00:58:51.000
it could be anything. Obviously
00:58:51.000 --> 00:58:52.599
there's certain things I'm not going to write
00:58:52.599 --> 00:58:57.059
like death to the Jews or something like that.
00:58:58.380 --> 00:59:01.440
Sorry no amount of money for the book is
00:59:01.440 --> 00:59:03.619
worth that. I'm not gonna do that. Yeah I
00:59:03.619 --> 00:59:06.000
would like a personal message also. Yeah all right
00:59:06.000 --> 00:59:08.300
personal message you shall have. All right and
00:59:08.300 --> 00:59:11.880
sometimes people say if well yeah okay obviously
00:59:11.880 --> 00:59:13.619
I know how to write a personal message for you
00:59:13.619 --> 00:59:15.539
but anyway all right I'll put that information
00:59:15.539 --> 00:59:19.059
up later. Okay so cool. Good. Congratulations. Thank
00:59:19.059 --> 00:59:21.699
you. Congratulations. Yeah it's book number 23
00:59:21.699 --> 00:59:25.019
I guess. Are you serious? Yeah. Yeah. I've only
00:59:25.019 --> 00:59:30.079
ever wanted. I've had this thing that I've wanted
00:59:30.079 --> 00:59:31.920
to write a book forever. I just never did it.
00:59:32.079 --> 00:59:33.780
And when I started, I used to write scripts.
00:59:33.920 --> 00:59:36.199
Well, I used to sit there for hours and hours.
00:59:36.420 --> 00:59:38.360
I have been thinking, but maybe you and I should
00:59:38.360 --> 00:59:40.880
do a deprogrammed book. I'd be down for that.
00:59:41.019 --> 00:59:43.099
And even in Black Agenda Report, when I was in
00:59:43.099 --> 00:59:44.760
New York and they were saying, yeah, we need
00:59:44.760 --> 00:59:47.599
more writers and stuff like that. And I got the,
00:59:47.659 --> 00:59:50.340
I took it as a hint. Everything that I've ever
00:59:50.340 --> 00:59:52.079
read for Black Agenda Report has been published.
00:59:52.579 --> 00:59:56.480
And they made it very clear. I was like, look.
00:59:57.050 --> 01:00:00.989
If it sucks, don't print it. You do me
01:00:00.989 --> 01:00:03.389
No favors, right? By putting something up that
01:00:03.389 --> 01:00:06.170
sucks. And she was, no, no, we would never
01:00:06.170 --> 01:00:08.650
do that. We've declined plenty of people when
01:00:08.650 --> 01:00:10.050
they've sent out stuff. And she said, in fact,
01:00:10.130 --> 01:00:12.250
the majority of the people that send writings
01:00:12.250 --> 01:00:15.929
get declined. So don't, if it's published,
01:00:16.170 --> 01:00:18.530
we accept it as it's good enough to be published.
01:00:18.869 --> 01:00:21.570
She was the editor that was on it. All of them
01:00:21.570 --> 01:00:24.090
that I found out, none of them were writers at
01:00:24.090 --> 01:00:28.250
first. All of them started writing. Anybody can
01:00:28.250 --> 01:00:30.530
write. Anybody can draw. I'm convinced of that.
01:00:31.130 --> 01:00:34.630
It's just practice. Yeah, but some is exceptional.
01:00:35.449 --> 01:00:38.050
When you're reading Frank Herbert, the writing
01:00:38.050 --> 01:00:40.809
is exceptional. Or if you're reading... He must
01:00:40.809 --> 01:00:42.329
have practiced, though. He must have
01:00:42.329 --> 01:00:45.550
practiced long and hard. Oh, I don't doubt that.
01:00:45.889 --> 01:00:50.860
I don't doubt that. It's just... They're different
01:00:50.860 --> 01:00:53.179
writers. For example, in Three-Body, that
01:00:53.179 --> 01:00:57.000
is very straightforward writing. It explains
01:00:57.000 --> 01:00:59.460
exactly what he wants to explain and he does
01:00:59.460 --> 01:01:01.159
it in a very matter-of-fact way that makes sense.
01:01:01.400 --> 01:01:04.239
Isaac Asimov, same thing, right? He writes in
01:01:04.239 --> 01:01:07.849
a very
straightforward way that has a, but it
01:01:07.849 --> 01:01:11.869
works. Yeah, he's, yeah, it's not pretentious
01:01:11.869 --> 01:01:17.150
prose at all, Asimov, which I appreciate. So,
01:01:17.329 --> 01:01:20.550
all right, two major stories. Of course, I don't
01:01:20.550 --> 01:01:23.230
know if you follow this NVIDIA story. But the
01:01:23.230 --> 01:01:26.789
CEO of NVIDIA, who was apparently carrying on
01:01:26.789 --> 01:01:29.909
an affair with an alleged Chinese spy, is being
01:01:29.909 --> 01:01:33.409
investigated. Yeah. And NVIDIA's stock fell off
01:01:33.409 --> 01:01:37.590
a cliff at the opening at 9:30. And so that
01:01:37.590 --> 01:01:40.210
is... Wait, he had an affair with a Chinese spy?
01:01:40.570 --> 01:01:43.030
Uh-huh. Is the woman really a Chinese spy is
01:01:43.030 --> 01:01:45.050
the question. Who knows? But allegedly,
01:01:45.210 --> 01:01:48.179
and it looks probably, yeah. The Chinese
01:01:48.179 --> 01:01:50.900
government did not issue a full-throated denial.
01:01:51.159 --> 01:01:54.719
The Chinese government said, that has not been
01:01:54.719 --> 01:01:58.800
verified. I'm, okay, that's not a no, is
01:01:58.800 --> 01:02:02.690
it? Wait, wait, wait. I just want to frame this
01:02:02.690 --> 01:02:05.309
in my mind real quick. So Jensen Huang, the one
01:02:05.309 --> 01:02:06.889
that was running NVIDIA, and by the way, the
01:02:06.889 --> 01:02:13.219
NVIDIA thing is incestuous. Meaning the
01:02:13.219 --> 01:02:19.309
entire attack. Jensen Huang. The platform rests on
01:02:19.309 --> 01:02:24.710
NVIDIA so NVIDIA, yeah, Jensen Huang and his
01:02:24.710 --> 01:02:28.010
family have remarkable control over this company
01:02:28.010 --> 01:02:33.530
personal control and NVIDIA creates or
01:02:33.530 --> 01:02:36.909
manufactures 90 plus percent of all chips
01:02:36.909 --> 01:02:41.869
used in AI. Yes, so in the world, so obviously
01:02:41.869 --> 01:02:44.690
it's a major U.S. national security interest
01:02:46.090 --> 01:02:48.630
It was he was having an affair with this Chinese
01:02:48.630 --> 01:02:52.630
alleged Chinese agent in a honeypot operation.
01:02:52.869 --> 01:02:57.070
He was cheated on his wife. And now that the
01:02:57.070 --> 01:02:59.769
company's investigating him, they're probably
01:02:59.769 --> 01:03:02.750
not going to oust him because they rely on him
01:03:02.750 --> 01:03:05.070
too much. He's a personal face of the company.
01:03:05.269 --> 01:03:08.030
This is that leather jacket Asian guy. Yeah,
01:03:08.110 --> 01:03:10.670
that's exactly. Yeah. Jensen Huang. And then
01:03:10.670 --> 01:03:14.429
that's it. And then so there's that's happening.
01:03:14.780 --> 01:03:17.599
And then also we've got Russell Brand has just
01:03:17.599 --> 01:03:21.269
been sentenced to 10 and a half years. Oh, how
01:03:21.269 --> 01:03:25.550
long? 10 and a half years. That's rough. It's
01:03:25.550 --> 01:03:26.849
a long time. He's going to have a lot of time
01:03:26.849 --> 01:03:28.909
to deal with Jesus while he's in thing. Because
01:03:28.909 --> 01:03:32.489
according to him, he's become a Christian and
01:03:32.489 --> 01:03:36.750
he's. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Let's go to the first
01:03:36.750 --> 01:03:40.570
one. That's super interesting. That is super
01:03:40.570 --> 01:03:43.500
interesting. He is the face of the company. The
01:03:43.500 --> 01:03:45.400
leather jacket thing is iconic with him. Everywhere
01:03:45.400 --> 01:03:48.360
he goes, he gives talks, lectures, et cetera,
01:03:48.500 --> 01:03:51.840
on NVIDIA. And NVIDIA is underpinning basically
01:03:51.840 --> 01:03:54.139
the AI boom, and not just the AI boom, the companies
01:03:54.139 --> 01:03:57.719
that are directly involved in AI. So NVIDIA puts
01:03:57.719 --> 01:04:00.659
money out for these data centers and stuff like
01:04:00.659 --> 01:04:03.000
that in order to boost these AI companies, because
01:04:03.000 --> 01:04:05.460
if it wasn't for them, they'd fall apart and
01:04:05.460 --> 01:04:07.639
the US economy would go along with it. So it's
01:04:07.639 --> 01:04:09.800
super interesting that they're saying a Chinese
01:04:09.800 --> 01:04:13.510
honeypot. honeypots, who I still say should
01:04:13.510 --> 01:04:16.590
be illegal because we're too susceptible to honeypots.
01:04:16.590 --> 01:04:20.469
It's so unfair to be a man and then have
01:04:20.469 --> 01:04:22.090
this woman throw herself at you. She's gorgeous.
01:04:22.289 --> 01:04:25.030
And you're supposed to say, no, that's so wrong.
01:04:25.250 --> 01:04:27.510
Especially when the state is commissioning that
01:04:27.510 --> 01:04:30.760
very attractive woman to throw themselves at
01:04:30.760 --> 01:04:32.780
you in that way. And the only thing that you
01:04:32.780 --> 01:04:36.380
can rely on is your values, your bond with your
01:04:36.380 --> 01:04:39.219
wife. Something like that. I hate to
01:04:39.219 --> 01:04:42.349
say this, but I think, This is the way guys
01:04:42.349 --> 01:04:44.789
are wired, right? I don't care how much you love
01:04:44.789 --> 01:04:49.289
your wife. I don't care how self-disciplined
01:04:49.289 --> 01:04:53.739
you are. If the girl knows how to get you and
01:04:53.739 --> 01:04:57.280
she's cute in a way that you appreciate, it's
01:04:57.280 --> 01:04:59.980
going to be 99% you're going to succumb. That's
01:04:59.980 --> 01:05:03.920
just how it is. By the way, Jared Kushner, did
01:05:03.920 --> 01:05:06.659
you hear the story about his dad paying for a
01:05:06.659 --> 01:05:10.590
honeypot to have sex with a rival? Yes. And then
01:05:10.590 --> 01:05:12.469
sending the pictures to the kid, to the
01:05:12.469 --> 01:05:15.750
parents. And the question was, do we send them
01:05:15.750 --> 01:05:18.050
to the kids also? They were going to send pictures
01:05:18.050 --> 01:05:20.909
to the kids. They had to be talked out of doing
01:05:20.909 --> 01:05:23.630
that. Yeah. And by the way, he tried it
twice.
01:05:23.869 --> 01:05:26.869
Those Kushners play rough. Yeah, they play rough.
01:05:26.909 --> 01:05:29.010
He went to jail for that shit. Donald Trump pardoned
01:05:29.010 --> 01:05:31.449
the guy. But he wanted to send it to the kids
01:05:31.449 --> 01:05:34.329
at a birthday party. That's how they roll in
01:05:34.329 --> 01:05:37.510
Jersey, man. Well, he tried it twice. First time
01:05:37.510 --> 01:05:39.730
it worked. Second time it didn't work. The second
01:05:39.730 --> 01:05:44.619
guy, for whatever reason, held up. Yeah. Okay.
01:05:44.780 --> 01:05:47.000
Well, this is going to have, obviously, implications
01:05:47.000 --> 01:05:50.579
for the company, kind of. Because the
01:05:50.579 --> 01:05:53.539
assumption is that the sweet nothings that were
01:05:53.539 --> 01:05:56.460
whispered in pillow talk, he might have revealed
01:05:56.460 --> 01:05:59.380
more than what he would have wanted to reveal
01:05:59.380 --> 01:06:01.639
to somebody that was a, quote, spy, unquote,
01:06:01.820 --> 01:06:05.420
associated with China. That's interesting. And
01:06:05.420 --> 01:06:07.579
you said the stock fell off of a cliff. Now, the
01:06:07.579 --> 01:06:08.980
question is, why would the stock fall off the
01:06:08.980 --> 01:06:11.280
cliff? What are they thinking? China has already
01:06:11.280 --> 01:06:13.400
come out with all sorts of AI products and everything
01:06:13.400 --> 01:06:16.079
else, which should have been pressure on the
01:06:16.079 --> 01:06:17.860
stocks in and of themselves, the world American
01:06:17.860 --> 01:06:21.039
companies, considering those Chinese AI stocks
01:06:21.039 --> 01:06:24.260
or companies do just as well if you're only using
01:06:24.260 --> 01:06:27.179
it at a particular level. By the way, P.W. Walker
01:06:27.179 --> 01:06:30.699
says the Kushner thing was the brother-in-law.
01:06:31.000 --> 01:06:34.000
Yeah, it was the brother-in-law. Yeah, right.
01:06:34.590 --> 01:06:37.639
Kushner did this to his own sister. Yeah. He
01:06:37.639 --> 01:06:41.559
did this to his own sister. Jesus Christ. Isn't
01:06:41.559 --> 01:06:44.420
that, that's just wild to me. That's just
01:06:44.420 --> 01:06:47.219
wild to me. Yeah. Look, the basic point is, the
01:06:47.219 --> 01:06:51.420
honeypot thing is very difficult. It's a
01:06:51.420 --> 01:06:53.599
color revolution. It's very difficult to put
01:06:53.599 --> 01:06:59.019
down, right? Yeah. But no, I guess the question
01:06:59.019 --> 01:07:02.039
becomes, what was the material gain out of, in
01:07:02.039 --> 01:07:03.519
the situation? Well, that's the question, right?
01:07:04.219 --> 01:07:05.820
out of him that well that's what they're going
01:07:05.820 --> 01:07:07.860
to need to know right. I think the stock
01:07:07.860 --> 01:07:10.800
that's what the the uncertainty around this
01:07:10.800 --> 01:07:13.340
is what has the is what has the markets
01:07:13.340 --> 01:07:17.539
really and they're going to gain some political
01:07:17.539 --> 01:07:19.699
benefit or some kind of material benefit from
01:07:19.699 --> 01:07:21.860
the association if they find that if they
01:07:21.860 --> 01:07:23.900
find that basically she didn't get anything much
01:07:23.900 --> 01:07:26.300
it's not going to matter but right how would
01:07:26.300 --> 01:07:29.280
they ever know well he knows he knows
01:07:29.280 --> 01:07:31.570
what he said True, but he's not going to say
01:07:31.570 --> 01:07:33.949
it. He's cooperating with the investigation,
01:07:34.030 --> 01:07:35.869
according to the board, if you want to believe
01:07:35.869 --> 01:07:39.289
that. Yeah. I guess the question is what he's
01:07:39.289 --> 01:07:42.170
going to say. And considering what we already
01:07:42.170 --> 01:07:46.329
know about AI in China, well, that's already
01:07:46.329 --> 01:07:48.789
putting pressure on the U.S. market. I mean,
01:07:48.809 --> 01:07:50.630
don't get me wrong. I'm saying I get why they
01:07:50.630 --> 01:07:52.769
think it matters. I guess I'm not sure that it
01:07:52.769 --> 01:07:56.610
does. Well, we just don't know. We don't
01:07:56.610 --> 01:07:59.920
know. We don't have the full picture. God, man,
01:08:00.019 --> 01:08:01.699
it's the stuff that he might have told her during
01:08:01.699 --> 01:08:03.280
pillow talk. You say some of anything in
01:08:03.280 --> 01:08:08.429
pillow talk. Oh, yeah. Anything. Yeah.
01:08:09.530 --> 01:08:11.510
That's why if you're in a position of power,
01:08:11.650 --> 01:08:13.690
you should always follow the Billy Graham rule
01:08:13.690 --> 01:08:16.689
when it comes to women. Always. Don't spend any
01:08:16.689 --> 01:08:21.189
time around women? No. You always have someone
01:08:21.189 --> 01:08:24.029
else with you. You never meet with a woman alone.
01:08:24.210 --> 01:08:27.800
Never. Either you have your wife there with you
01:08:27.800 --> 01:08:30.300
or you have someone else. That way there's never
01:08:30.300 --> 01:08:33.619
a chance for you to fall because, let's be honest,
01:08:33.800 --> 01:08:36.979
men fall all the time. Yeah, no, it's dangerous.
01:08:37.319 --> 01:08:40.420
When I worked at United Media, I was
01:08:40.420 --> 01:08:42.380
an executive. It was the only time in my life
01:08:42.380 --> 01:08:45.079
I ever had a position of authority. I was
01:08:45.079 --> 01:08:48.159
number three in the company. And I got a nice
01:08:48.159 --> 01:08:49.760
office and all that. I remember there was this
01:08:49.760 --> 01:08:53.500
really insanely hot half Asian, half white chick
01:08:53.500 --> 01:08:56.380
who... always was flirting with me. I don't
01:08:56.380 --> 01:08:58.319
know if she was just being nice or if she was
01:08:58.319 --> 01:09:00.319
interested, but whatever. Whenever she wanted
01:09:00.319 --> 01:09:02.380
to talk to me, I was always, leave that
01:09:02.380 --> 01:09:06.319
door open. Always, always leave
01:09:06.319 --> 01:09:08.899
that door open. And it's, oh,
she's,
01:09:08.979 --> 01:09:10.920
you want to have a drink after work? Not with
01:09:10.920 --> 01:09:16.380
you. Is that what you said? No, I wouldn't
01:09:16.380 --> 01:09:18.300
say that. I would be, I just make excuses.
01:09:18.420 --> 01:09:20.659
Oh, I got to go. I'm sorry. I can't,
01:09:20.659 --> 01:09:25.260
Yeah, that's rough. It is actually
01:09:25.260 --> 01:09:28.460
a problem because I think it's harder for women
01:09:28.460 --> 01:09:30.600
to socialize in the workplace because of,
01:09:30.600 --> 01:09:33.300
guys I was, right? You're sort
01:09:33.300 --> 01:09:35.479
of, well, how are you
01:09:35.479 --> 01:09:36.880
going to bond? Let's just say you just
01:09:36.880 --> 01:09:40.399
legitimately just want to hang out and get closer
01:09:40.399 --> 01:09:44.000
to someone as a friend platonically, but they're
01:09:44.000 --> 01:09:46.359
scared because they don't want to,
01:09:46.420 --> 01:09:48.399
to be, they don't want any implication that you
01:09:48.399 --> 01:09:51.399
might be, that they might be seduced. And they
01:09:51.399 --> 01:09:53.100
just stay away. That is a problem for
01:09:53.100 --> 01:09:54.739
women in the workforce. But you remember what
01:09:54.739 --> 01:09:56.300
happened to me? I worked for Verizon, don't you,
01:09:56.399 --> 01:10:01.500
Ted? Refresh my memory. So it's back in 2016.
01:10:01.699 --> 01:10:05.199
I supported Trump. And a couple of the ladies
01:10:05.199 --> 01:10:08.579
that I worked with were just absolutely hated
01:10:08.579 --> 01:10:13.119
him. Long story short, I ended up having to have
01:10:13.119 --> 01:10:15.279
a coaching with one of them because her numbers
01:10:15.279 --> 01:10:17.319
sucked. It was a sales position. She just was
01:10:17.319 --> 01:10:20.829
not hitting her quotas. And then her and her
01:10:20.829 --> 01:10:22.829
friends got together and accused me of sexual
01:10:22.829 --> 01:10:26.789
harassment. What? That's all it took was the
01:10:26.789 --> 01:10:30.810
accusation. And I ended up losing the job. Yeah,
01:10:30.829 --> 01:10:34.529
that can happen. So, when it comes
01:10:34.529 --> 01:10:37.550
to women, listen, I like women. I like women
01:10:37.550 --> 01:10:40.270
a lot. I'm married to one. But women are the,
01:10:40.449 --> 01:10:46.729
they can be, they can be, all it takes is an
01:10:46.729 --> 01:10:49.069
accusation. And that's one of the reasons why
01:10:49.069 --> 01:10:52.779
this Russell Brand stuff. I have no idea if he
01:10:52.779 --> 01:10:54.960
did it or not. Russell Brand sounds pretty guilty
01:10:54.960 --> 01:10:58.739
to me. All it takes is the accusation because
01:10:58.739 --> 01:11:00.760
you can't prove it. That's the whole problem.
01:11:01.260 --> 01:11:02.479
Well, let's talk about the Russell Brand thing.
01:11:02.479 --> 01:11:05.039
No, you can't disprove a negative. I wasn't hitting
01:11:05.039 --> 01:11:06.960
on these women, but I'm willing to pay the price.
01:11:07.100 --> 01:11:11.140
That case, it puts you in the mind of kind of
01:11:11.140 --> 01:11:14.199
Trump's case where it's, okay, something
01:11:14.199 --> 01:11:17.000
took place 20-something years ago, maybe 20
01:11:17.000 --> 01:11:19.760
years ago. Yeah, this was 1999 or something,
01:11:19.819 --> 01:11:22.039
right? Right. It's an accusation that's being
01:11:22.039 --> 01:11:25.380
put out. And then his response to the accusation.
01:11:25.699 --> 01:11:28.479
Okay, well, how do you prove something that took
01:11:28.479 --> 01:11:32.039
place 20 years ago? It's that problem.
01:11:32.380 --> 01:11:35.319
And then it's he said, she said. Now, Russell
01:11:35.319 --> 01:11:37.159
Brand's argument would be, well, I'm not a rapist.
01:11:37.159 --> 01:11:39.880
I just like to have sex. And I'm a bit of a sex
01:11:39.880 --> 01:11:42.560
maniac. But that doesn't mean rape or sexual
01:11:42.560 --> 01:11:46.300
assault. But you get three allegations against
01:11:46.300 --> 01:11:48.829
them. Apparently, there are more. that the prosecution
01:11:48.829 --> 01:11:50.670
is going to bring out of people who came out
01:11:50.670 --> 01:11:52.569
saying that Russell Brand did something nefarious.
01:11:52.909 --> 01:11:54.869
Now, this goes to kind of the Bill Cosby
01:11:54.869 --> 01:11:57.130
stuff, where it's, dude, at the point where
01:11:57.130 --> 01:11:58.689
you have 30 women coming out of the woodwork
01:11:58.689 --> 01:12:00.789
saying that you were sexually assaulted. That's
01:12:00.789 --> 01:12:03.750
exactly it. That it becomes, it takes on
01:12:03.750 --> 01:12:06.430
a momentum of its own. It does. You could
01:12:06.430 --> 01:12:09.229
say one is a fluke. It will put you in the mind
01:12:09.229 --> 01:12:11.750
of, if somebody gets caught drunk driving
01:12:11.750 --> 01:12:13.270
over and over again, and they say, well, the
01:12:13.270 --> 01:12:15.810
cops were going after me because I was a black
01:12:15.810 --> 01:12:18.520
male. And they were just profiling me. But it's
01:12:18.520 --> 01:12:20.000
, dude, but if you get caught four times.
01:12:20.640 --> 01:12:24.060
You're a drunken shithead. Yeah. Yeah. How can
01:12:24.060 --> 01:12:25.880
you make that argument? How can you make that
01:12:25.880 --> 01:12:28.119
argument, right? Right. And by the way, when
01:12:28.119 --> 01:12:30.119
it's different cops every time, right? And it's
01:12:30.119 --> 01:12:32.000
different cops every time. It's the whole
01:12:32.000 --> 01:12:35.199
police force is after me. No, they're not. Probably
01:12:35.199 --> 01:12:38.659
not. And that's kind of the thing with the Russell
01:12:38.659 --> 01:12:40.500
Brand thing. The moment you bring out three
01:12:40.500 --> 01:12:42.060
or four people, then you bring out another two.
01:12:42.260 --> 01:12:45.880
That's why I think he's guilty. Yeah. It just
01:12:45.880 --> 01:12:48.859
because you would have to believe that all
01:12:48.859 --> 01:12:52.020
of these women would
want without getting anything
01:12:52.020 --> 01:12:54.060
out of it, would want to put them in a cage.
01:12:54.300 --> 01:12:57.840
Yeah. For what? For what reason? Why? What's
01:12:57.840 --> 01:12:59.699
in it for them? Yeah. It's one thing if you get
01:12:59.699 --> 01:13:03.760
one person and you say, look, that didn't happen.
01:13:04.140 --> 01:13:05.920
I don't know what that person is talking about.
01:13:06.000 --> 01:13:08.260
That didn't happen. It was consensual, et cetera.
01:13:09.460 --> 01:13:11.899
But you get four and you have to say that for
01:13:11.899 --> 01:13:14.939
all four people, meaning even if the four people
01:13:14.939 --> 01:13:18.960
are out to get you. Your goose is cooked. Your
01:13:18.960 --> 01:13:22.220
goose is cooked. True. There's no way out that
01:13:22.220 --> 01:13:24.340
box. And I have to believe that the women would
01:13:24.340 --> 01:13:25.880
want to put their sex life out there like that.
01:13:26.159 --> 01:13:28.079
No, it's, no, it's fucking
01:13:28.079 --> 01:13:32.119
rough. Look, it's true that it's
01:13:32.119 --> 01:13:35.500
re-traumatizing for, a victim.
01:13:35.520 --> 01:13:39.319
there's false allegations, sure. But look, there's
01:13:39.319 --> 01:13:41.500
just things that don't pass the smell test. And,
01:13:41.500 --> 01:13:47.939
this, this, yeah, yeah.
01:13:47.939 --> 01:13:49.899
we could argue about whether 10 and a half years
01:13:49.899 --> 01:13:53.220
in prison is too long. I kind of think it is.
01:13:53.260 --> 01:13:55.300
I think just that all of our prison terms, I
01:13:55.300 --> 01:13:57.920
always say this for everything, everything, all
01:13:57.920 --> 01:13:59.859
our prison terms are too long, way too long.
01:14:00.020 --> 01:14:03.039
one and a half years would be plenty
01:14:03.039 --> 01:14:05.479
here. It's a long fucking time, one and a half
01:14:05.479 --> 01:14:09.819
years. Just for one second. You would think that
01:14:09.819 --> 01:14:12.060
Russell Brand could get as much pussy as he wants.
01:14:12.939 --> 01:14:16.000
Yeah. Why are you doing this? Well, that's a
01:14:16.000 --> 01:14:18.560
good question. Right. what the hell, man?
01:14:18.880 --> 01:14:21.859
is it? Look, I get it in the manosphere
01:14:21.859 --> 01:14:23.659
and he's not part of the manosphere. But there
01:14:23.659 --> 01:14:26.380
are some guys, let's say Andrew Tate is a really
01:14:26.380 --> 01:14:29.300
good example. He's a good looking guy. To be
01:14:29.300 --> 01:14:32.939
just brutal with women in general. Well, that's
01:14:32.939 --> 01:14:35.720
why feminists say that rape is not a crime of
01:14:35.720 --> 01:14:37.680
sex. It's a crime of violence. I believe that
01:14:37.680 --> 01:14:40.560
100 percent. No, I agree. It's a crime of violence.
01:14:40.720 --> 01:14:42.859
But there's some. But everybody has their kinks.
01:14:43.300 --> 01:14:46.079
And there are some kinks that just don't quite
01:14:46.079 --> 01:14:49.699
work. because they require non-consent right
01:14:49.699 --> 01:14:52.159
there's some kinks that are
01:14:52.159 --> 01:14:56.920
I get off by brutalizing as opposed to I get off
01:14:56.920 --> 01:14:59.340
by consensual sex right it wouldn't
01:14:59.340 --> 01:15:02.079
work for that it just wouldn't work more to have
01:15:02.079 --> 01:15:05.640
a sexually open receptive or just the normal
01:15:05.640 --> 01:15:07.859
relationship yeah but we consider normal right
01:15:07.859 --> 01:15:10.949
even if it goes to boundaries, or even if it
01:15:10.949 --> 01:15:13.210
pushes boundaries, it's still consensual. Some
01:15:13.210 --> 01:15:15.590
of these guys seem to be getting off on the fact
01:15:15.590 --> 01:15:17.510
that it's non-consensual, which is just bizarre
01:15:17.510 --> 01:15:20.510
in a truly bad manosphere. Russell Brand never
01:15:20.510 --> 01:15:23.890
came across that way to me, but it's you
01:15:23.890 --> 01:15:26.590
can get all the pussy you want, and yet you're
01:15:26.590 --> 01:15:29.569
still ending up cases of sexual abuse. Right.
01:15:30.189 --> 01:15:33.810
Right. No, it's true. Yeah. look, it's
01:15:33.810 --> 01:15:38.600
a psychosis, right? obviously. When you
01:15:38.600 --> 01:15:43.069
could have something for free, and
01:15:43.069 --> 01:15:46.529
you decide that you have to steal it. Yeah. That's
01:15:46.529 --> 01:15:49.229
so weird to me. It's, dude, you got looks,
01:15:49.489 --> 01:15:51.989
you got money. Well, it's rich people who
01:15:51.989 --> 01:15:55.930
are kleptos. It's, was it Winona Ryder who
01:15:55.930 --> 01:15:58.729
was caught shoplifting? She was a rich girl.
01:15:58.890 --> 01:16:02.029
She didn't need to steal anything. She could
01:16:02.029 --> 01:16:03.989
afford to buy that stuff. She got off on it.
01:16:04.350 --> 01:16:06.289
I just don't get it. Russell Brand could go up
01:16:06.289 --> 01:16:08.300
to any random woman. and pull her in a heartbeat
01:16:08.300 --> 01:16:12.479
yeah yeah it's true yeah he's because
01:16:12.479 --> 01:16:14.680
they were when he were in the room he looked
01:16:14.680 --> 01:16:17.529
a different person that's the way they
01:16:17.529 --> 01:16:19.430
described it he just looked a
01:16:19.430 --> 01:16:21.170
different person and we've heard we've heard
01:16:21.170 --> 01:16:23.569
similar narratives about to a lesser extent
01:16:23.569 --> 01:16:25.989
Harvey Weinstein Harvey Weinstein
01:16:25.989 --> 01:16:28.310
also apparently his personality would change
01:16:28.310 --> 01:16:32.510
bipolar or whatever suddenly
01:16:32.510 --> 01:16:36.600
start chasing God, what was her name? The
01:16:36.600 --> 01:16:42.060
actress from Kill Bill. Oh, I know who you're
01:16:42.060 --> 01:16:43.300
talking about. I can't think of her name, but
01:16:43.300 --> 01:16:44.439
I know who you're talking about. She reported
01:16:44.439 --> 01:16:46.579
being chased around by Harvey Weinstein. Uma
01:16:46.579 --> 01:16:49.750
Thurman.
Uma Thurman, yeah. So, that
01:16:49.750 --> 01:16:51.630
kind of stuff. I don't get it. These guys got
01:16:51.630 --> 01:16:56.989
everything. And just hit the jackpot from standpoint
01:16:56.989 --> 01:17:00.630
of looks, money, career, et cetera. He's well-
01:17:00.630 --> 01:17:03.970
known. He has a certain personality towards
01:17:03.970 --> 01:17:06.210
sex. Which, again, that was a given, right? He
01:17:06.210 --> 01:17:09.210
never hid that. He always came across, yeah,
01:17:09.250 --> 01:17:12.390
I'm open. I like to have sex. I like the et cetera.
01:17:12.590 --> 01:17:15.850
That was part of his shtick. Yeah, and there's
01:17:15.850 --> 01:17:18.390
that movie, Get Him to the Greek, right? And he's
01:17:18.390 --> 01:17:21.430
in it. And he's great. And he's totally
01:17:21.430 --> 01:17:25.810
this Lothario and, it's totally credible.
01:17:25.970 --> 01:17:27.590
It's the best casting I've ever seen in
01:17:27.590 --> 01:17:32.329
my life. Yeah. It's really, really fucking puzzling.
01:17:32.430 --> 01:17:34.930
It's the Tate thing. Tate's a good looking
01:17:34.930 --> 01:17:37.489
guy. he doesn't need to do
01:17:37.489 --> 01:17:39.770
that. It's, well, he did it for business
01:17:39.770 --> 01:17:43.229
reasons. Tate is a different story. Tate is trying
01:17:43.229 --> 01:17:45.109
to be a pimp, but he's trying to be a pimp in
01:17:45.109 --> 01:17:49.010
a new age. Right. That's true. That's also a
01:17:49.010 --> 01:17:52.220
weird power thing, too, though. But even when
01:17:52.220 --> 01:17:54.460
he had sex, the women were talking about
01:17:54.460 --> 01:17:57.699
the way he abused them during sex. Yeah. How
01:17:57.699 --> 01:17:59.659
he got off on it. even in what is that
01:17:59.659 --> 01:18:01.119
Big Brother episode or something like that, he's
01:18:01.119 --> 01:18:04.899
beating a woman with a strap. But that's the
01:18:04.899 --> 01:18:09.159
manosphere stuff. He read a book on pimps and
01:18:09.159 --> 01:18:13.000
changed the internet thing into a thing that
01:18:13.000 --> 01:18:15.359
would be commensurate with pimping women. What
01:18:15.359 --> 01:18:17.279
he uses, though, is just OnlyFans as opposed
01:18:17.279 --> 01:18:18.979
to having women walk the streets. But it's the
01:18:18.979 --> 01:18:21.220
same premise. It's, I'm going to take their
01:18:21.220 --> 01:18:22.779
money. I'm going to tell them that I'm paying
01:18:22.779 --> 01:18:24.359
their taxes when really I'm just keeping the
01:18:24.359 --> 01:18:26.590
money. You have to have sex with the woman so
01:18:26.590 --> 01:18:28.630
she'll be in love with you. That way she'll do
01:18:28.630 --> 01:18:31.270
OnlyFans for you as opposed to doing it on her
01:18:31.270 --> 01:18:33.430
own. All of this stuff was a way of getting women
01:18:33.430 --> 01:18:35.850
stuck in a particular location and then using
01:18:35.850 --> 01:18:38.829
them once they're stuck to have sexual stuff
01:18:38.829 --> 01:18:41.649
on
OnlyFans. That's just being a pimp in a digital
01:18:41.649 --> 01:18:45.029
age. What's his name? Russell Brand just seems
01:18:45.029 --> 01:18:47.689
to be a sex maniac. This wasn't a business thing
01:18:47.689 --> 01:18:51.010
for him. This was about sex. Just wild. I don't
01:18:51.010 --> 01:18:52.949
know. And they're giving him 10 years. Jesus.
01:18:54.229 --> 01:18:57.310
Yeah, it's a long time. It really is. Okay, we've
01:18:57.310 --> 01:19:01.750
got more to talk about. God, man. I agree with
01:19:01.750 --> 01:19:03.170
you. I think most prison sentences are too long.
01:19:03.890 --> 01:19:06.550
Yeah, almost all. If you so. Ted, have you ever
01:19:06.550 --> 01:19:09.270
thought of doing tattoos? Tattoo artists get
01:19:09.270 --> 01:19:13.810
babies. I don't know. Well, you would have to
01:19:13.810 --> 01:19:15.590
do the picture. Somebody else can do the tattoo.
01:19:16.229 --> 01:19:19.689
Oh, well, I do. I have done tattoos for people.
01:19:19.829 --> 01:19:21.649
So if you need me to design a tattoo for you,
01:19:21.689 --> 01:19:26.859
I will. I have. I know how to do it. I will not
01:19:26.859 --> 01:19:29.100
administer the tattoo for you. That you have
01:19:29.100 --> 01:19:32.460
to find someone local to do. If you so, will
01:19:32.460 --> 01:19:34.659
Russell Brown store more than just eggs in his
01:19:34.659 --> 01:19:39.220
prison purse? Poor Russell Brown. Yeah, that's
01:19:39.220 --> 01:19:41.380
the more rough for him. It'll be rough. I think
01:19:41.380 --> 01:19:44.020
anybody who's rich, well, anybody in general
01:19:44.020 --> 01:19:46.539
going to prison is traumatic. Yeah. But somebody
01:19:46.539 --> 01:19:49.039
who's rich, oh God. It's a bigger comedown,
01:19:49.039 --> 01:19:52.819
for Puffy or someone like that. you go
01:19:52.819 --> 01:19:56.159
from living in a total luxury. if you
01:19:56.159 --> 01:19:59.100
go from the street to prison, you kind of,
01:19:59.100 --> 01:20:02.140
it sucks. It's bad, but it's different.
01:20:02.319 --> 01:20:04.760
It's not the same. No, it's not. It's not such
01:20:04.760 --> 01:20:08.140
a big comedown. You're not eating,
01:20:08.140 --> 01:20:12.899
caviar off a woman's ass. All right. What do
01:20:12.899 --> 01:20:16.399
you want to do? Do you want to do 2028 challengers
01:20:16.399 --> 01:20:21.079
to Vance, Hegseth or Trump? Let's do Hegseth
01:20:21.079 --> 01:20:22.960
because I think he's going to be impeached. In
01:20:22.960 --> 01:20:24.840
fact, I did the video about this last week that
01:20:24.840 --> 01:20:26.960
I was, they're coming for his ass. Yeah.
01:20:27.060 --> 01:20:30.420
Yeah, they are. This week? Yep. Yeah, well, I
01:20:30.420 --> 01:20:34.680
did my video last week. Outgoing Thomas Massie,
01:20:34.739 --> 01:20:39.119
who, he's not dead yet. He's decided
01:20:39.119 --> 01:20:42.880
to force a vote on a Hegseth impeachment. And
01:20:42.880 --> 01:20:46.060
privately, Republican leaders think that the
01:20:46.060 --> 01:20:48.079
votes are there to impeach him in the House.
01:20:48.699 --> 01:20:51.840
Agreed. which was my argument. Because my take
01:20:51.840 --> 01:20:54.020
out on it was, I saw the rumblings from Republicans
01:20:54.020 --> 01:20:56.989
that, let me say it this way, when J.D. Vance
01:20:56.989 --> 01:20:59.409
comes out and says, I believe the war was the
01:20:59.409 --> 01:21:04.430
issue of why we lost to this dramatic extinction
01:21:04.430 --> 01:21:07.689
level event for Republicans. Okay, well, that's
01:21:07.689 --> 01:21:09.710
the VP. That's the second in charge coming out
01:21:09.710 --> 01:21:13.109
saying what everybody knows. The war is the issue.
01:21:13.489 --> 01:21:16.550
All right? But Hegseth is not his fault, right?
01:21:16.689 --> 01:21:19.229
You should blame Trump. Yeah. But they don't
01:21:19.229 --> 01:21:21.909
want to blame Trump. So who is prosecuting the
01:21:21.909 --> 01:21:24.729
war? Okay, well, God of War, Pete Hegseth. Somebody's
01:21:24.729 --> 01:21:27.409
head needs to roll for this, right? So whose
01:21:27.409 --> 01:21:29.770
head is going to roll? Well, they're going to
01:21:29.770 --> 01:21:31.930
talk about, considering it's the war that they
01:21:31.930 --> 01:21:34.989
are blaming this on, as opposed to Trump. They're
01:21:34.989 --> 01:21:38.050
going to say the God of War ran the war. He didn't
01:21:38.050 --> 01:21:40.609
inform the president. He wasn't given the information
01:21:40.609 --> 01:21:41.989
that was necessary and blah, blah, blah. They're
01:21:41.989 --> 01:21:43.949
going to come up with all sorts of reasons. They
01:21:43.949 --> 01:21:45.829
have the votes. I suspect they have the votes.
01:21:47.930 --> 01:21:51.329
Yeah, probably so. And the thing is, so the accusation
01:21:51.329 --> 01:21:54.310
here, for the record, is mishandling the war
01:21:54.310 --> 01:21:59.899
and violating the War Powers Act. They would
01:21:59.899 --> 01:22:02.680
have found anything. They would have found anything.
01:22:03.399 --> 01:22:06.520
The charges are less relevant than the fact
01:22:06.520 --> 01:22:08.119
that they were trying to go after somebody for
01:22:08.119 --> 01:22:10.140
doing this, for getting the shit wrong. Yeah.
01:22:10.539 --> 01:22:14.140
And I guess the point is, yeah, okay, so he can
01:22:14.140 --> 01:22:17.960
be impeached in the House. But he would not likely
01:22:17.960 --> 01:22:20.819
be convicted in the Senate. Bear in mind, the
01:22:20.819 --> 01:22:23.979
election for people who are outside the U.S.,
01:22:23.979 --> 01:22:27.020
the new Democratic House and Senate don't take
01:22:27.020 --> 01:22:29.979
over until January 1st. So we still have the
01:22:29.979 --> 01:22:34.659
outgoing Republican, the Republican House and
01:22:34.659 --> 01:22:35.939
Senate. But they would only need four votes.
01:22:36.340 --> 01:22:38.020
Democrats are going to end up with
01:22:38.020 --> 01:22:40.760
55, 56 votes. They only
need four from impeachment
01:22:40.760 --> 01:22:43.460
from Republicans. Yeah. And you're telling me
01:22:43.460 --> 01:22:48.090
out of 40, what, 46? Well, does it work that
01:22:48.090 --> 01:22:50.649
way, though? If the conviction happens in this
01:22:50.649 --> 01:22:55.949
House of Representatives, can the new Senate
01:22:55.949 --> 01:23:00.850
convict? Or is it a new procedure in the new
01:23:00.850 --> 01:23:03.050
term? Well, I just assume it won't wait until
01:23:03.050 --> 01:23:06.300
January. Right. They're talking about doing it
01:23:06.300 --> 01:23:10.850
this week. That's dumb if they do. That might
01:23:10.850 --> 01:23:13.350
be the poison pill. That might be the attempt
01:23:13.350 --> 01:23:16.380
to get it out of the way. Why would Thomas Massie
01:23:16.380 --> 01:23:19.119
do that to get it out of the way? Thomas Massie
01:23:19.119 --> 01:23:20.319
is not going to be able to do anything after
01:23:20.319 --> 01:23:23.779
January 1st because he's a lame duck. I know,
01:23:23.800 --> 01:23:26.140
but that's my point. Democrats would do it anyway.
01:23:27.119 --> 01:23:29.439
You don't need Thomas Massie for this. This is
01:23:29.439 --> 01:23:30.880
some shit Democrats would do to go after the
01:23:30.880 --> 01:23:33.079
Trump administration anyway. Meaning this would
01:23:33.079 --> 01:23:35.659
be on their agenda most likely either way. I
01:23:35.659 --> 01:23:37.579
don't know if they have the votes. Maybe this
01:23:37.579 --> 01:23:41.619
is a dumb move on Massie's part. Because the
01:23:41.619 --> 01:23:43.260
Democrats have been very clear they want to get
01:23:43.260 --> 01:23:46.170
rid of Hegseth. Exactly. So if Massie is doing
01:23:46.170 --> 01:23:47.850
this now, Massie is not going to be able to get
01:23:47.850 --> 01:23:49.949
the conviction in the Senate. If you wait until
01:23:49.949 --> 01:23:52.250
the next Congress comes in, they would definitely
01:23:52.250 --> 01:23:54.569
get it. Maybe you'll get the conviction because
01:23:54.569 --> 01:23:57.109
four votes out of 46 is not all that difficult
01:23:57.109 --> 01:24:01.010
to get. No, that's true. Although, well, you
01:24:01.010 --> 01:24:05.609
need five, right? Because Fetterman, the fake
01:24:05.609 --> 01:24:10.010
Democrat, John Fetterman. Fetterman. You know
01:24:10.010 --> 01:24:13.409
Fetterman would not vote for it. Yeah. But you
01:24:13.409 --> 01:24:15.970
get my point, Bill. Five votes away from an impeachment
01:24:15.970 --> 01:24:19.789
is a hell of a, it's not a huge gap. No, and
01:24:19.789 --> 01:24:21.630
yeah, privately, a lot of it.
01:24:21.710 --> 01:24:23.229
But yeah, and look, here's the thing, right?
01:24:23.270 --> 01:24:26.050
we should, this to me, makes
01:24:26.050 --> 01:24:30.250
us do the pivot right away to this story about
01:24:30.250 --> 01:24:35.029
Trump, right? So, the American people
01:24:35.029 --> 01:24:37.449
basically sent a message last Tuesday, which
01:24:37.449 --> 01:24:40.789
is, we are done with President Trump. he's
01:24:40.789 --> 01:24:44.319
dead to us. We finished. And People voted,
01:24:44.380 --> 01:24:46.739
you hear the most hilarious interpretations.
01:24:46.960 --> 01:24:50.479
This morning, Governor, on my local radio, New
01:24:50.479 --> 01:24:53.039
York Governor Kathy Hochul was saying, oh,
01:24:53.039 --> 01:24:55.779
the election results gave me a mandate
01:24:55.779 --> 01:24:59.220
to continue with my housing plan. I don't even
01:24:59.220 --> 01:25:02.399
know what her housing plan is, but no. That's
01:25:02.399 --> 01:25:05.199
not true. OK, no New Yorker who voted for
01:25:05.199 --> 01:25:07.819
her was voting for her housing plan, even if
01:25:07.819 --> 01:25:11.199
her housing plan is wunderbar. OK, they
01:25:11.199 --> 01:25:13.619
voted because this is a it was all fuck you,
01:25:13.640 --> 01:25:15.300
Trump, fuck you, Trump, fuck you, Trump. That's
01:25:15.300 --> 01:25:21.170
all last Tuesday was. And so you have how does
01:25:21.170 --> 01:25:23.930
I don't know what this looks like. OK, the last
01:25:23.930 --> 01:25:26.710
time that you had a rout like this and it was
01:25:26.710 --> 01:25:30.529
in the same direction was 1974. November of 1974,
01:25:31.050 --> 01:25:34.130
two months after Nixon resigned, there was a
01:25:34.130 --> 01:25:36.890
new president, Gerald R. Ford. For people who
01:25:36.890 --> 01:25:39.850
are not familiar with Watergate, he wasn't even
01:25:39.850 --> 01:25:42.010
elected vice president because there had been
01:25:42.010 --> 01:25:45.050
a whole series of bullshit. Spiro T. Agnew
01:25:45.050 --> 01:25:48.630
had been forced to resign before Nixon over a
01:25:48.630 --> 01:25:51.350
bribe in Maryland when he was governor. So the
01:25:51.350 --> 01:25:53.590
point is... Gerald R. Ford, who was basically
01:25:53.590 --> 01:25:55.810
a kind of obscure congressman from Michigan,
01:25:56.050 --> 01:25:58.909
had somehow ended up as vice president. He was
01:25:58.909 --> 01:26:01.409
the sitting president after Nixon's resignation.
01:26:01.890 --> 01:26:06.869
And two months after the Nixon resignation, they
01:26:06.869 --> 01:26:08.550
had this election and the American people were
01:26:08.550 --> 01:26:10.670
still pissed at Nixon. So they voted against
01:26:10.670 --> 01:26:14.960
him. But it didn't matter in a way because Gerald
01:26:14.960 --> 01:26:17.640
R. Ford was the new president. The guy that the
01:26:17.640 --> 01:26:19.899
American people were pissed off at was gone.
01:26:22.000 --> 01:26:24.739
Here, the guy that the American people are pissed
01:26:24.739 --> 01:26:29.159
off at is still there and he's going to be there.
01:26:29.220 --> 01:26:31.859
He's scheduled to be there for another two years,
01:26:31.899 --> 01:26:34.739
although, I think he should be he should
01:26:34.739 --> 01:26:39.060
be 25th amended by Vance or he should resign.
01:26:39.239 --> 01:26:43.079
Right. But it would be
to Vance's detriment if
01:26:43.079 --> 01:26:45.960
Trump runs for the next two years. In fact, it
01:26:45.960 --> 01:26:48.689
would be to benefit the Democrats bonus. if Trump
01:26:48.689 --> 01:26:50.170
is in office for the next few years absolutely
01:26:50.170 --> 01:26:53.310
they're still that's going to deliver
01:26:53.310 --> 01:26:56.449
for two years yeah they can still run against
01:26:56.449 --> 01:26:59.569
him and everything that they fail at they will
01:26:59.569 --> 01:27:01.970
be able to say that's Donald Trump yeah which
01:27:01.970 --> 01:27:05.750
means that in 2028 you may get a Democrat super
01:27:05.750 --> 01:27:08.489
majority maybe they may be able to maintain their
01:27:08.489 --> 01:27:11.409
seats currently if you're yeah if you're
01:27:11.409 --> 01:27:13.229
if you're Vance right you already have that
01:27:13.229 --> 01:27:16.050
obviously conspiracy between Vance and Trump
01:27:16.050 --> 01:27:18.890
Don't worry, Donald,
01:27:18.989 --> 01:27:21.170
you'll give me the space. Don't worry, J.D.,
01:27:21.170 --> 01:27:23.930
I got you. I'll let you run against me and talk
01:27:23.930 --> 01:27:26.590
shit about me in the Iran war. And that's what
01:27:26.590 --> 01:27:29.569
started last Wednesday with that statement. I
01:27:29.569 --> 01:27:32.670
how far is he willing to go to
01:27:32.670 --> 01:27:36.850
set up J.D. Vance? Not that far. This is about
01:27:36.850 --> 01:27:39.489
it. He didn't attack Trump in the tweet. No.
01:27:40.109 --> 01:27:43.010
If you think about it, he said the Iran war is
01:27:43.010 --> 01:27:45.250
a reason that we lost. If you need to defend
01:27:45.250 --> 01:27:48.359
it. then defend that fact. Don't make shit up,
01:27:48.399 --> 01:27:51.600
right? But he never mentioned Trump at all. Well,
01:27:51.619 --> 01:27:54.600
he couldn't. as it was, that was an extraordinary
01:27:54.600 --> 01:27:59.840
statement anyway. But, yeah, so now he's,
01:27:59.840 --> 01:28:03.220
yeah, so, but the point is, how does a country
01:28:03.220 --> 01:28:07.340
work when the president of the United States,
01:28:07.420 --> 01:28:09.460
and he sent out, I don't know if you
01:28:09.460 --> 01:28:12.159
saw this on his Truth Social, but the president
01:28:12.159 --> 01:28:15.300
sent out one of his glaring photos. It said,
01:28:15.659 --> 01:28:18.359
Remember, Donald Trump, Donald J. Trump is still
01:28:18.359 --> 01:28:22.460
your president. Is that what he said? Yeah. Whoa.
01:28:22.739 --> 01:28:27.039
Whoa. Yeah. it's I collect World
01:28:27.039 --> 01:28:30.119
War II propaganda posters. And my favorite, one
01:28:30.119 --> 01:28:32.680
of my favorite ones is the last poster that the
01:28:32.680 --> 01:28:35.920
withdrawing Nazi troops posted in occupied France
01:28:35.920 --> 01:28:38.840
as they were retreating and fleeing before the
01:28:38.840 --> 01:28:42.659
Allies was a poster that said. German law continues
01:28:42.659 --> 01:28:45.760
to apply after we're gone. And when we come back,
01:28:45.779 --> 01:28:47.899
we're going to execute anyone who broke our laws.
01:28:48.079 --> 01:28:50.359
This is, that's what this is. That's what
01:28:50.359 --> 01:28:53.579
this is. It's, okay, yeah, you're our
01:28:53.579 --> 01:28:56.899
president, but really you're so emasculated.
01:28:56.899 --> 01:29:00.699
You're so weakened. You're so gelded.
01:29:00.699 --> 01:29:03.199
yeah, you can put Stephen Miller in charge
01:29:03.199 --> 01:29:06.319
or chief of staff, whatever. It doesn't matter.
01:29:06.399 --> 01:29:09.520
a wounded animal is dangerous. And I
01:29:09.520 --> 01:29:12.140
guess to that, we should talk about that. But
01:29:12.140 --> 01:29:16.659
but he's a mortally wounded animal. I
01:29:16.659 --> 01:29:18.960
think he's done. I think Trumpism isn't
01:29:18.960 --> 01:29:23.140
finished. And it's now all eyes turn to
01:29:23.140 --> 01:29:28.180
2028. Did y'all see his newest truth? He just
01:29:28.180 --> 01:29:31.279
put it out. Let's see it. Put it up. I got to
01:29:31.279 --> 01:29:34.359
put this on the screen. This is why J.D. Vance
01:29:34.359 --> 01:29:39.659
will lose. By the way, I didn't say. No, I'm
01:29:39.659 --> 01:29:42.300
saying he's going to lose because no one trusts
01:29:42.300 --> 01:29:49.140
the guy. So here's what Trump says. I don't think
01:29:49.140 --> 01:29:51.619
it will let me big a fight. Let me do it this
01:29:51.619 --> 01:29:55.500
way. That's better. Does anybody really believe
01:29:55.500 --> 01:29:59.119
this election was? Oh, here we go. How could
01:29:59.119 --> 01:30:02.300
the polls be so wrong? Some early voting dumps
01:30:02.300 --> 01:30:04.640
are so large that it was impossible to win, no
01:30:04.640 --> 01:30:06.539
matter how many people went to vote. Here we
01:30:06.539 --> 01:30:08.659
go. It's all about the machines. The polls weren't
01:30:08.659 --> 01:30:11.220
wrong. The polls were totally right. They were
01:30:11.220 --> 01:30:14.859
wrong in how big it was. Yeah. In the direction.
01:30:15.119 --> 01:30:17.279
Yeah. You keep saying that. The polls weren't
01:30:17.279 --> 01:30:19.539
wrong. No, the polls were totally right. It's
01:30:19.539 --> 01:30:21.979
all about the machines, which are far more important
01:30:21.979 --> 01:30:26.100
than the voter president. DJT. This guy is a
01:30:26.100 --> 01:30:29.489
complete buffoon. Well, they asked him if he
01:30:29.489 --> 01:30:30.869
was going to accept the election, and he said
01:30:30.869 --> 01:30:35.550
yes. Well, this is not that. Yeah. But the polling
01:30:35.550 --> 01:30:39.569
wasn't wrong. If anything, the scale of it didn't
01:30:39.569 --> 01:30:44.210
grasp the level of the win. And why would they,
01:30:44.229 --> 01:30:46.310
right? How could you look at this and say to
01:30:46.310 --> 01:30:47.909
yourself, Democrats are going to get 56 seats
01:30:47.909 --> 01:30:50.550
in the Senate, when beforehand, the question
01:30:50.550 -->
01:30:52.289
was whether they would even win the Senate at
01:30:52.289 --> 01:30:55.020
all. Right. not. when you're almost at a
01:30:55.020 --> 01:30:58.000
super majority level and again when you're when
01:30:58.000 --> 01:31:00.560
you're winning a Senate seat from Mississippi
01:31:00.560 --> 01:31:05.439
yeah Texas Texas and the governor Iowa Kansas
01:31:05.439 --> 01:31:09.779
and all the state houses yeah yeah yeah yeah
01:31:09.779 --> 01:31:12.960
it's colossal it's definitely a
01:31:12.960 --> 01:31:17.699
blue wave it's a collateral it's a calamity on
01:31:17.699 --> 01:31:20.539
this we're not here till look it's not over until
01:31:20.539 --> 01:31:23.399
January 1st this president could declare
01:31:23.399 --> 01:31:27.439
some Iran-based national emergency and suspend
01:31:27.439 --> 01:31:29.520
and and decide that he doesn't want to seat the
01:31:29.520 --> 01:31:32.520
new incoming members of congress that can't happen
01:31:32.520 --> 01:31:34.399
I want y'all to think about this what Donald
01:31:34.399 --> 01:31:36.939
Trump wait real quick what would the mechanism
01:31:36.939 --> 01:31:39.359
be for Donald because I found this I'm gonna
01:31:39.359 --> 01:31:42.359
look this up again I'll tell you machinery yeah
01:31:42.359 --> 01:31:46.829
go ahead right Donald Trump and J.D.
01:31:46.869 --> 01:31:52.630
Vance both came to Kalispell, Montana. They were
01:31:52.630 --> 01:31:56.630
here, the reddest of red states, the reddest
01:31:56.630 --> 01:32:00.750
of the red part of the state. And their handpicked
01:32:00.750 --> 01:32:06.529
guy lost by almost 30,000 votes, which in Montana
01:32:06.529 --> 01:32:08.550
is huge because it's such a small population
01:32:08.550 --> 01:32:13.899
here. the fact that Trump's, it's
01:32:13.899 --> 01:32:16.779
the machines shows us how out of touch he is.
01:32:17.159 --> 01:32:20.100
well what I mean by the machine is the president
01:32:20.100 --> 01:32:24.699
so the president has certain powers at his disposal
01:32:24.699 --> 01:32:28.039
true but when you after the elections and stuff
01:32:28.039 --> 01:32:29.859
it's a machinery that is putting people
01:32:29.859 --> 01:32:31.760
in office yeah they're gonna have to be
01:32:31.760 --> 01:32:35.039
sworn in by JD Vance true and I guess Vance could
01:32:35.039 --> 01:32:38.010
say I'm not gonna swear people in that so it
01:32:38.010 --> 01:32:41.310
would so what would happen is under Article One
01:32:41.310 --> 01:32:45.569
Section Five of the Constitution the Congress
01:32:45.569 --> 01:32:49.010
itself could theoretically challenge or vote
01:32:49.010 --> 01:32:52.250
to exclude a member elect based on a majority
01:32:52.250 --> 01:32:55.369
vote. That would be the mechanism. But they would
01:32:55.369 --> 01:32:59.359
have to exclude. That would be an astonishing
01:32:59.359 --> 01:33:02.399
number of people to exclude. Well, they could
01:33:02.399 --> 01:33:05.000
do it to all of them. Right. That's
my point.
01:33:05.020 --> 01:33:07.100
That would be astonishing because of the number
01:33:07.100 --> 01:33:10.199
of people. It would be a coup d'etat. It would
01:33:10.199 --> 01:33:14.060
be a civil war. Because the American public at
01:33:14.060 --> 01:33:16.130
that point would have made their... denunciation
01:33:16.130 --> 01:33:19.149
of the president at a level that is breathtaking.
01:33:20.449 --> 01:33:22.890
Strictly speaking, it would be legal, but it
01:33:22.890 --> 01:33:25.449
would be... Look, think about the compromise
01:33:25.449 --> 01:33:31.500
of 1877. strictly speaking, legal. There
01:33:31.500 --> 01:33:34.560
was no civil war, but, there could have
01:33:34.560 --> 01:33:39.460
been. Look, the level of condemnation that came
01:33:39.460 --> 01:33:42.140
from the American public... Bush v. Gore, people
01:33:42.140 --> 01:33:45.869
accepted that. But this is different. It was
01:33:45.869 --> 01:33:48.210
unconstitutional. Bush v. Gore was unconstitutional.
01:33:48.529 --> 01:33:50.510
the Supreme Court never should have heard
01:33:50.510 --> 01:33:54.010
the case. Elections are a state issue. Again,
01:33:54.210 --> 01:33:56.229
you have my agreement on it. But Bush v. Gore
01:33:56.229 --> 01:33:58.449
was close, meaning it was a fight that was around
01:33:58.449 --> 01:34:01.149
the rims of Florida that this effectively took
01:34:01.149 --> 01:34:04.449
place. This is a full-scale condemnation and
01:34:04.449 --> 01:34:06.989
an understood condemnation of the presidency
01:34:06.989 --> 01:34:11.010
at a level that we haven't seen in 70 years,
01:34:11.130 --> 01:34:14.510
right? Correct. And then turn around for... a
01:34:14.510 --> 01:34:17.189
small clip to say, we're not going to bring you
01:34:17.189 --> 01:34:22.430
in. Good luck. I'm not saying it's a good idea.
01:34:22.689 --> 01:34:25.829
I'm just saying that they are, I guarantee you
01:34:25.829 --> 01:34:29.569
that they are, Steve Miller and Trump are
01:34:29.569 --> 01:34:33.699
mulling this. That's a civil war because this
01:34:33.699 --> 01:34:36.319
is not even close. look, it's one thing
01:34:36.319 --> 01:34:39.180
if we're one percentage point difference and
01:34:39.180 --> 01:34:41.380
you find a way to kind of make that work. Okay,
01:34:41.399 --> 01:34:42.859
the public is not necessarily going to go to,
01:34:42.880 --> 01:34:45.220
it's not going to. people are going
01:34:45.220 --> 01:34:48.020
to hate it, but people may accept it because
01:34:48.020 --> 01:34:50.560
you may be able to make the argument that this
01:34:50.560 --> 01:34:52.460
1% is somehow, that you can somehow
01:34:52.460 --> 01:34:56.159
game the system. This is not that. This is a
01:34:56.159 --> 01:34:59.720
large-scale condemnation from state house to
01:34:59.720 --> 01:35:02.920
governorships to House of Representatives to
01:35:02.920 --> 01:35:06.739
the Senate of just a slaughtering of the Republican
01:35:06.739 --> 01:35:09.159
Party as a
result of what's taking place. When
01:35:09.159 --> 01:35:10.699
they ask the president, the president say, yes,
01:35:10.699 --> 01:35:12.609
I accept the election. When they answer the vice
01:35:12.609 --> 01:35:14.369
president, the vice president said this shellacking
01:35:14.369 --> 01:35:17.189
came from the Iran war. Then how do you turn
01:35:17.189 --> 01:35:18.609
around and say we're not going to bring people
01:35:18.609 --> 01:35:20.270
in? And then what reason are you going to use
01:35:20.270 --> 01:35:23.130
to do so? And will the public accept that, especially
01:35:23.130 --> 01:35:25.449
considering the large scale of people that came
01:35:25.449 --> 01:35:27.750
out to say F off? By the way, including MAGA,
01:35:27.850 --> 01:35:30.050
Republicans, many of the reason why this was
01:35:30.050 --> 01:35:32.109
so bad was because many people that were Republicans
01:35:32.109 --> 01:35:34.350
turned around and voted Democrat to punish the
01:35:34.350 --> 01:35:37.130
Trump administration for basically betraying
01:35:37.130 --> 01:35:39.810
the country. How on earth do you turn around
01:35:39.810 --> 01:35:42.560
and say we're not going to accept that? It's
01:35:42.560 --> 01:35:47.760
too big. It's too much. I think it could happen.
01:35:48.180 --> 01:35:50.880
Should we discuss this? We have a request for
01:35:50.880 --> 01:35:53.520
an explanation of the compromise of 1877. Do
01:35:53.520 --> 01:35:57.000
we want to do that? You're the historian. So,
01:35:57.159 --> 01:36:00.039
Robby, please come in and correct anything I
01:36:00.039 --> 01:36:01.460
get wrong here, because this is a complicated
01:36:01.460 --> 01:36:04.479
story. But in the election of 1876 was between
01:36:04.479 --> 01:36:08.220
Republican Rutherford B. Hayes and Democrat Samuel
01:36:08.220 --> 01:36:11.729
Tilden, who was a judge from New York. the
01:36:11.729 --> 01:36:14.470
at that point it's just 10 years after the Civil
01:36:14.470 --> 01:36:17.050
War so the Republican Party was the party of
01:36:17.050 --> 01:36:19.750
the Union and the Democratic Party was the party
01:36:19.750 --> 01:36:23.130
of the South and and so they it was kind
01:36:23.130 --> 01:36:25.810
of viewed you guys kind of we don't
01:36:25.810 --> 01:36:28.930
think it's really cool for a Democrat to be president
01:36:28.930 --> 01:36:32.989
right well Tilden was a Northerner he won
01:36:32.989 --> 01:36:37.090
the the electoral vote and so the electoral
01:36:37.090 --> 01:36:41.279
college vote and At that time, that pissed off
01:36:41.279 --> 01:36:44.060
so many people. They were, they just wouldn't
01:36:44.060 --> 01:36:46.039
accept it, right? we're not going to allow
01:36:46.039 --> 01:36:50.119
this Democrat 10 years after the Civil War to
01:36:50.119 --> 01:36:52.399
be the sitting president of the United States.
01:36:52.659 --> 01:36:55.939
So they negotiated. This was during Reconstruction.
01:36:56.199 --> 01:36:58.319
And at the time, they were, you know what
01:36:58.319 --> 01:37:01.420
we could do? Sam, if you agree to stay in New
01:37:01.420 --> 01:37:05.119
York and not be president and Democrats give
01:37:05.119 --> 01:37:08.479
up your presidency that you won, What we will
01:37:08.479 --> 01:37:13.220
do for you is we will pull Northern troops out
01:37:13.220 --> 01:37:15.979
of the South and end Reconstruction and throw
01:37:15.979 --> 01:37:19.159
all the Blacks under the bus. And we'll do that
01:37:19.159 --> 01:37:20.680
for you guys because we know that's important
01:37:20.680 --> 01:37:23.539
to you. And you'll let Rutherford B. Hayes be
01:37:23.539 --> 01:37:26.020
president, but we will agree that Rutherford
01:37:26.020 --> 01:37:28.380
B. Hayes will promise as a gentleman not to run
01:37:28.380 --> 01:37:31.920
for re-election in 1880. It'll be a one-term
01:37:31.920 --> 01:37:35.119
thing and we'll get to be president. mean that's
01:37:35.119 --> 01:37:37.220
basically what it was right and so they they
01:37:37.220 --> 01:37:41.300
passed a law in Congress this is crazy reassigning
01:37:41.300 --> 01:37:46.739
the the electors from the enough states
01:37:46.739 --> 01:37:51.319
in the 1876 election to from Tilden over to
01:37:51.319 --> 01:37:55.180
Hayes yeah that's what happened and that's that's
01:37:55.180 --> 01:37:56.880
where the premise was uh you remember how
01:37:56.880 --> 01:37:58.760
they're talking about their fraud B Hayes they
01:37:58.760 --> 01:38:01.170
called him Well, that happened back in
01:38:01.170 --> 01:38:03.949
2016. Remember when they were when the Russiagate
01:38:03.949 --> 01:38:06.329
was going was going on full was going full bore.
01:38:06.550 --> 01:38:09.229
They use this as an example, saying that the
01:38:09.229 --> 01:38:11.729
electors for the electoral college from the different
01:38:11.729 --> 01:38:15.210
states could switch their votes because it is
01:38:15.210 --> 01:38:18.109
a mechanism. The states can irrespective of how
01:38:18.109 --> 01:38:20.729
the people vote, they have the ability to tell
01:38:20.729 --> 01:38:22.970
their electors where to where to actually vote
01:38:22.970 --> 01:38:25.170
at. Right. And when you vote in a presidential
01:38:25.170 --> 01:38:27.590
election as an individual, it's basically
01:38:27.590 --> 01:38:30.000
a suggestion. yeah it doesn't matter because
01:38:30.000 --> 01:38:31.880
it comes out to the state and that and that's
01:38:31.880 --> 01:38:33.800
the one part of federalism that still exists
01:38:33.800 --> 01:38:35.579
in this country at least a shadow of a shadow
01:38:35.579 --> 01:38:38.680
of a memory is that the states have that power
01:38:38.680 --> 01:38:43.020
if they choose to use it but it was because but
01:38:43.020 --> 01:38:46.100
obviously this was this left a very distasteful
01:38:46.100 --> 01:38:49.020
undemocratic small d democratic taste in everyone's
01:38:49.020 --> 01:38:50.739
mouth well it's because the United
States is
01:38:50.739 --> 01:38:52.819
not a democracy it's never it's never been one
01:38:52.819 --> 01:38:55.579
that's a myth The United States,
01:38:55.579 --> 01:38:57.180
there's nothing democratic about our system.
01:38:57.199 --> 01:38:59.100
It's a republic. But my point is that,
01:38:59.119 --> 01:39:02.279
if the republic moved past that and
01:39:02.279 --> 01:39:05.970
didn't plunge into civil war, it's
01:39:05.970 --> 01:39:08.029
because, well, they had just left the civil war.
01:39:08.369 --> 01:39:10.029
Well, that's a whole point. They knew how to
01:39:10.029 --> 01:39:12.090
do it. the South is devastated. Who's
01:39:12.090 --> 01:39:14.649
going to fight them? Right. But this is different.
01:39:15.560 --> 01:39:18.140
And also, it was a pro-Southern thing that happened.
01:39:18.300 --> 01:39:22.199
The government has lost credibility every bit
01:39:22.199 --> 01:39:24.159
as much as the media has lost credibility. So
01:39:24.159 --> 01:39:26.779
there's that. Two, the government, the country,
01:39:26.859 --> 01:39:29.119
in a country that calls itself a, quote, democracy,
01:39:29.319 --> 01:39:31.619
unquote, where the vote is supposed to be the
01:39:31.619 --> 01:39:33.779
rule of law. keep in mind, Americans,
01:39:33.979 --> 01:39:36.539
it's not we protest. So it's not we're
01:39:36.539 --> 01:39:38.560
in France where we burn shit down. Or we're in
01:39:38.560 --> 01:39:40.439
Albania, we're in Germany, or we're in some of
01:39:40.439 --> 01:39:41.819
these other countries where the people get out
01:39:41.819 --> 01:39:43.779
on the street, burn shit down, they get very
01:39:43.779 --> 01:39:45.539
angry, et cetera, for pressure on the government.
01:39:45.619 --> 01:39:47.779
That's not really what we do. We've been told
01:39:47.779 --> 01:39:50.060
voting is the thing that people are supposed
01:39:50.060 --> 01:39:52.939
to do, and violence under all circumstances are
01:39:52.939 --> 01:39:56.119
bad. This is nonsense, right? Voting is not going
01:39:56.119 --> 01:39:58.359
to get you out of your situation. But the public
01:39:58.359 --> 01:40:00.479
that you've told voting is the thing that you
01:40:00.479 --> 01:40:02.039
do in regards to getting back at your government
01:40:02.039 --> 01:40:04.439
and getting your government to deal with your
01:40:04.439 --> 01:40:06.699
grievances. And that government turns around
01:40:06.699 --> 01:40:08.220
and says, we're not going to now accept that
01:40:08.220 --> 01:40:12.460
vote, despite the overwhelming number of people
01:40:12.460 --> 01:40:16.319
that it came out in order to say F off. That
01:40:16.319 --> 01:40:19.289
would be breathtaking. And I think it would be
01:40:19.289 --> 01:40:21.949
ontological shock to the American public. And
01:40:21.949 --> 01:40:24.970
when people are in shock. Sometimes they react
01:40:24.970 --> 01:40:33.579
in ungainly ways or they react in aggressive
01:40:33.579 --> 01:40:39.680
ways. And so would it
happen? No. Who knows?
01:40:40.180 --> 01:40:44.340
Yes, no. Who knows? But is it a risk when you're
01:40:44.340 --> 01:40:47.319
taking an election result like this that is in
01:40:47.319 --> 01:40:49.420
all 50 states? It's a risk. That was certainly
01:40:49.420 --> 01:40:51.659
a risk. It's a hell of a risk. No doubt. But
01:40:51.659 --> 01:40:53.880
by the way, Donald Trump. trying to steal
01:40:53.880 --> 01:40:57.720
the election I get hell of a risk he acts
01:40:57.720 --> 01:40:59.779
just because this country hasn't necessarily
01:40:59.779 --> 01:41:02.859
been in the civil war for you know what hundreds
01:41:02.859 --> 01:41:06.140
of years that the can't happen that stability
01:41:06.140 --> 01:41:07.720
in and of itself means that you're going to be
01:41:07.720 --> 01:41:09.479
stable going forward it doesn't work that way
01:41:09.479 --> 01:41:12.340
this this is a fickle thing people can act out
01:41:12.340 --> 01:41:14.460
when they think something's being threatened
01:41:14.460 --> 01:41:18.539
and yeah not letting in the House and the Senate
01:41:18.539 --> 01:41:21.199
would be extraordinarily threatening and provocative
01:41:21.850 --> 01:41:24.050
That's the case that I made last Thursday when
01:41:24.050 --> 01:41:26.529
I got into it with these Republicans on the panel
01:41:26.529 --> 01:41:29.289
that that was a part of on the Jeff Dornick show
01:41:29.289 --> 01:41:34.210
is just be very thankful that right wingers
01:41:34.210 --> 01:41:37.489
me opted to vote for the Democrat as opposed
01:41:37.489 --> 01:41:40.609
to opting to use the cartridge box instead, because
01:41:40.609 --> 01:41:43.289
we still decided we still we still chose the
01:41:43.289 --> 01:41:46.479
ballot box. If you if the government just keeps
01:41:46.479 --> 01:41:50.439
on just taking us for granted and treating us
01:41:50.439 --> 01:41:54.920
serfs. And just try to punch down. They
01:41:54.920 --> 01:41:58.000
will. Yeah. Well, then don't be surprised when
01:41:58.000 --> 01:42:01.369
things fall apart. Yeah. To your point, Ted,
01:42:01.510 --> 01:42:04.609
even Hitler cared about public opinion. He did.
01:42:04.750 --> 01:42:11.579
He had to. Well, so, yes. But OK, so before we
01:42:11.579 --> 01:42:15.439
move on to the 2028 question, Jamarl,
01:42:15.439 --> 01:42:18.640
what do you make of this? this idea
01:42:18.640 --> 01:42:20.380
that the president of the United States is going
01:42:20.380 --> 01:42:25.100
to be this guy who. everyone hates. And,
01:42:25.119 --> 01:42:27.340
in a way, does that liberate him? to
01:42:27.340 --> 01:42:28.939
the extent that he ever paid attention to public
01:42:28.939 --> 01:42:36.380
opinion at all? Or is the system viable? Well,
01:42:36.619 --> 01:42:39.479
I don't know. System viability, I would answer
01:42:39.479 --> 01:42:42.579
no. But that solution is going to happen when
01:42:42.579 --> 01:42:45.840
it can no longer mechanically do what it's currently
01:42:45.840 --> 01:42:48.899
doing. It's just going to veto everything. but
01:42:48.899 --> 01:42:51.720
he won't even be able to marshal Republican
01:42:51.720 --> 01:42:53.560
support because they're not going to owe him
01:42:53.560 --> 01:42:55.920
anymore and the Republicans fell in
01:42:55.920 --> 01:42:57.619
line because they were bullied it's not
01:42:57.619 --> 01:42:59.720
they liked what he hit what he was selling the
01:42:59.720 --> 01:43:02.000
corporate Republicans were scared of him that
01:43:02.000 --> 01:43:04.260
he was going to go after them and go on on on
01:43:04.260 --> 01:43:06.460
social media that's the only reason that they
01:43:06.460 --> 01:43:09.680
smashed now it's yeah now the knives are
01:43:09.680 --> 01:43:12.180
under the togas right everyone's this guy
01:43:12.180 --> 01:43:14.399
yeah the sword that Donald Trump was using has
01:43:14.399 --> 01:43:18.069
been broken the emperor has no clothes his power
01:43:18.069 --> 01:43:22.039
has been diminished. His cell is broken. Yeah.
01:43:22.319 --> 01:43:24.260
But by the same token, though, he seems to be
01:43:24.260 --> 01:43:26.659
doubling down. He put in Stephen Miller. ,
01:43:26.720 --> 01:43:29.560
they fired Susie Wiles. And what's wild about
01:43:29.560 --> 01:43:30.819
it, they were talking about, in the background
01:43:30.819 --> 01:43:33.640
how he was berating her at times, how he blames
01:43:33.640 --> 01:43:39.479
her for some of this. And it's... I'm sure
01:43:39.479 --> 01:43:42.199
Susie Wiles was the only sane person in the room
01:43:42.199 --> 01:43:45.229
besides Jamie Gantz. Yes, that's what I was about
01:43:45.229 --> 01:43:47.569
to say, right? Imagine being the only sane person
01:43:47.569 --> 01:43:50.770
in a world of insanity. Okay, everybody's going
01:43:50.770 --> 01:43:51.909
to think you're out of your mind, despite the
01:43:51.909 --> 01:43:53.350
fact that you're the most rational person in
01:43:53.350 --> 01:43:56.949
the room. And it's not that Susie Wiles' politics
01:43:56.949 --> 01:43:59.210
is great, more so that she's, I would assume,
01:43:59.329 --> 01:44:01.649
she's rational. She's a Bush-era Republican.
01:44:02.390 --> 01:44:04.210
And you're in a room with all of these insane
01:44:04.210 --> 01:44:07.609
people, Hegseth, Rubio. Susie Wiles knows
01:44:07.609 --> 01:44:10.210
that the president is incompetent. She knows
01:44:10.210 --> 01:44:12.069
that the people around him is incompetent. She
01:44:12.069 --> 01:44:16.029
knows, right? But he blames her. Hey, find the
01:44:16.029 --> 01:44:17.649
leaks. Find the people who are leaking in the
01:44:17.649 --> 01:44:20.510
military. Why can't we prosecute my enemies more?
01:44:20.649 --> 01:44:23.409
Why can't we do all of this stuff? With Susie
01:44:23.409 --> 01:44:26.770
Wiles knowing that this stuff is illegal. It's
01:44:26.770 --> 01:44:28.529
not something the president could do. And yet
01:44:28.529 --> 01:44:31.390
being blamed
for it and berated for it. She was
01:44:31.390 --> 01:44:35.750
fired, basically. And he put in what you could
01:44:35.750 --> 01:44:38.229
argue is, in large part, part and parcel to the
01:44:38.229 --> 01:44:40.909
reason why Donald Trump lost that election on
01:44:40.909 --> 01:44:43.149
a massive scale. the way he was doing immigration
01:44:43.149 --> 01:44:46.630
also floats into this conversation the ICE
01:44:46.630 --> 01:44:49.270
and killing Americans snatching Americans off
01:44:49.270 --> 01:44:51.930
the street seeing goons running through the streets
01:44:51.930 --> 01:44:55.850
and whatnot okay even people who are big on immigration
01:44:55.850 --> 01:44:59.810
doesn't like to see that and you put the
01:44:59.810 --> 01:45:03.550
arch the person who crafted that plan as your
01:45:03.550 --> 01:45:06.939
chief of staff okay well what does that mean
01:45:06.939 --> 01:45:09.300
if people are policy which looks Donald
01:45:09.300 --> 01:45:13.520
Trump is doubling down on that got him completely
01:45:13.520 --> 01:45:17.329
eviscerated by the American public. It seems
01:45:17.329 --> 01:45:19.569
he's doubling down. As you point out, he's
01:45:19.569 --> 01:45:21.090
going to be there for another two years, hated
01:45:21.090 --> 01:45:24.689
by the American public, not in theory, in fact,
01:45:24.710 --> 01:45:27.210
as expressed by the election. And I suspect in
01:45:27.210 --> 01:45:29.369
2028, we're going to see another election. He
01:45:29.369 --> 01:45:33.069
doesn't own his own party anymore. But I don't
01:45:33.069 --> 01:45:35.859
think he's going to veto everything. If there's
01:45:35.859 --> 01:45:37.300
something that I think he can get a win-win
01:45:37.300 --> 01:45:42.619
off, he'll do it. Sure. look, every crisis
01:45:42.619 --> 01:45:46.489
is an opportunity. Yeah, he could. Who knows?
01:45:46.609 --> 01:45:48.869
he could write the last chapter
01:45:48.869 --> 01:45:52.170
of his political career and make it cool.
01:45:52.189 --> 01:45:54.409
he could be, hey, let's do some shit. Let's
01:45:54.409 --> 01:45:56.850
finally have those high speed trains.
01:45:56.890 --> 01:45:59.689
let's finally have a Republican solution on health
01:45:59.689 --> 01:46:01.970
care. there's lots of stuff he could
01:46:01.970 --> 01:46:04.989
do with Democrats. You know what's wild about
01:46:04.989 --> 01:46:10.590
that? Instead of doing stupid, lazy shit
01:46:10.590 --> 01:46:15.119
I'm going to put up a. an arc. That arch
01:46:15.119 --> 01:46:17.739
is never going to happen. I'm going to make a
01:46:17.739 --> 01:46:20.619
ballroom. Instead of all that, basically that's
01:46:20.619 --> 01:46:23.880
Donald Trump peeing on stuff saying, okay, when
01:46:23.880 --> 01:46:26.640
I'm dead in the ground, this arc is going to
01:46:26.640 --> 01:46:30.060
be up. Renaming the Kennedy Center after himself.
01:46:30.699 --> 01:46:33.899
Well, he's going to try. But as opposed to that,
01:46:33.979 --> 01:46:36.420
he could put up a high-speed rail. If you're
01:46:36.420 --> 01:46:38.800
going to be proud of building something. To this
01:46:38.800 --> 01:46:42.279
day, people who know it still call it the Eisenhower
01:46:42.279 --> 01:46:46.680
Interstate Highway System. Exactly. The Trump
01:46:46.680 --> 01:46:50.539
monorail. The Trump high-speed rail. Trump rail.
01:46:51.039 --> 01:46:54.220
Yeah. He had eight years in office.
01:46:54.220 --> 01:46:55.600
know the first part of the years he was fighting
01:46:55.600 --> 01:46:58.779
the Russiagate stuff. But this term, he had all
01:46:58.779 --> 01:47:01.239
the power to do whatever he wanted. He got his
01:47:01.239 --> 01:47:03.699
bill passed and all. And that shit's far more
01:47:03.699 --> 01:47:06.340
memorable. National Rail would be far more memorable.
01:47:06.819 --> 01:47:09.159
Trump had a supermajority in his first term.
01:47:09.399 --> 01:47:12.420
He could have done whatever he wanted, and he's
01:47:12.420 --> 01:47:16.960
won it. Both administrations, by the way. Yeah,
01:47:16.979 --> 01:47:20.640
and that's the point that I made whenever,
01:47:20.640 --> 01:47:23.899
it's I told you all before, I've never
01:47:23.899 --> 01:47:27.000
been cussed out more on a panel, which is amazing,
01:47:27.140 --> 01:47:29.859
than I was with those Republicans, but I pointed
01:47:29.859 --> 01:47:33.640
out that Trump is an incompetent hypocrite of
01:47:33.640 --> 01:47:40.130
the highest order. he was just no I was
01:47:40.130 --> 01:47:41.890
talking with Chad he's well Robby who makes
01:47:41.890 --> 01:47:44.250
who makes the budgets I said Congress does
01:47:44.250 --> 01:47:46.609
but who's able to veto the budget demand a line
01:47:46.609 --> 01:47:54.630
item and not an omnibus bus and by the way if
01:47:54.630 --> 01:47:56.329
Trump would have came out and says I'm going
01:47:56.329 --> 01:47:57.710
to build high-speed rail all throughout the
01:47:57.710 --> 01:47:59.270
United States and I want the budget to do it
01:47:59.270 --> 01:48:02.550
yeah and I dare the Democrats to stop me the
01:48:02.739 --> 01:48:05.340
Democrats would not have stopped them they would
01:48:05.340 --> 01:48:07.970
have loved it Yeah, they would have left it.
01:48:08.470 --> 01:48:11.829
Use the money that you were sending to Israel
01:48:11.829 --> 01:48:14.949
and to Ukraine. Think about how many jobs, honestly,
01:48:15.069 --> 01:48:17.970
that would have created to this day. Hundreds
01:48:17.970 --> 01:48:22.210
of thousands. And that's the point that I made
01:48:22.210 --> 01:48:24.270
to those Republicans. To build it and to maintain
01:48:24.270 --> 01:48:26.710
it. That's the point that I made last Tuesday.
01:48:26.770 --> 01:48:29.949
Well, what are you, a socialist? That's not a
01:48:29.949 --> 01:48:32.630
socialist thing. Republicans also build. The
01:48:32.630 --> 01:48:35.630
Eisenhower built the - Mussolini made the trains
01:48:35.630 --> 01:48:37.109
run on time. But that's all they know. Hitler
01:48:37.109 --> 01:48:39.189
built the Autobahn, right? That's all they know.
01:48:39.770 --> 01:48:44.020
Eisenhower built the highways, right? And it
01:48:44.020 --> 01:48:47.119
was a Cold War project, right? To justify
01:48:47.119 --> 01:48:48.979
it, oh, we'll be able to bring tanks from
01:48:48.979 --> 01:48:50.539
one end of the country to the other more easily.
01:48:50.779 --> 01:48:52.880
True, I get that. But from an economic standpoint,
01:48:53.159 --> 01:48:54.920
being able to get goods from point A to point
01:48:54.920 --> 01:48:57.279
B across the country at a high speed where you
01:48:57.279 --> 01:48:59.279
don't need trucks or anything like that. Why
01:48:59.279 --> 01:49:00.619
wouldn't you want to do that? When you build
01:49:00.619 --> 01:49:03.039
that infrastructure, it has so many economic
01:49:03.039 --> 01:49:06.180
ripple effects. I was, the Museum of the
01:49:06.180 --> 01:49:09.100
City of New York has the original layout of Manhattan
01:49:09.100 --> 01:49:12.300
as a grid, right? And I was really surprised
01:49:12.300 --> 01:49:13.840
when I looked at it. It's from,
01:49:13.840 --> 01:49:16.659
two, three hundred years ago. It's got, I was
01:49:16.659 --> 01:49:18.800
, I looked at all the, what were then the
01:49:18.800 --> 01:49:21.180
main crosstown streets. They're not the same
01:49:21.180 --> 01:49:24.960
as they are now because when the subway came
01:49:24.960 --> 01:49:28.390
in, they just put it wherever. and those became
01:49:28.390 --> 01:49:32.149
where the subway stops were became the main crosstown
01:49:32.149 --> 01:49:35.210
streets because commercial enterprises
01:49:35.210 --> 01:49:37.850
wanted to be near the subway it generated the
01:49:37.850 --> 01:49:40.649
subway generated that commercial activity that's
01:49:40.649 --> 01:49:43.449
my point meaning that this is a win-win
01:49:43.449 --> 01:49:45.909
project that both sides could agree on and that
01:49:45.909 --> 01:49:49.050
the country needs and the money that
01:49:49.050 --> 01:49:50.470
Donald Trump is going to spend on the rich or
01:49:50.470 --> 01:49:53.359
whatever else he he could have done that He had
01:49:53.359 --> 01:49:55.300
the power to do that in a way that Democrats
01:49:55.300 --> 01:49:57.380
didn't have the power necessarily. And Democrats
01:49:57.380 --> 01:49:59.939
are pro-infrastructure, so it would have been
01:49:59.939 --> 01:50:03.079
easy for them. Here's what's crazy. I wanted
01:50:03.079 --> 01:50:07.159
to get a train ticket for me and Kizzy to come
01:50:07.159 --> 01:50:10.710
and visit Ted. They probably don't have one.
01:50:10.989 --> 01:50:13.949
No, they're there. But it costs more to take
01:50:13.949 --> 01:50:16.989
an Amtrak train that is federally subsidized
01:50:16.989 --> 01:50:19.810
than it does to fly. Yeah. Yes. A lot more. That
01:50:19.810 --> 01:50:23.729
is insane to me. The train is a luxury option.
01:50:24.390 --> 01:50:27.109
Whereas Trump, he could have called it the Trump
01:50:27.109 --> 01:50:30.409
train, whatever he wanted to, owned by the US
01:50:30.409 --> 01:50:33.149
government, fully owned by the American government,
01:50:33.250 --> 01:50:36.149
just the interstate system is, and allow
01:50:36.149 --> 01:50:40.090
that exchange of population and of goods using
01:50:40.090 --> 01:50:43.420
rails owned by the federal government for a fraction
01:50:43.420 --> 01:50:49.140
of the cost. And he would have been a hero. across
01:50:49.140 --> 01:50:52.439
the country and he couldn't do it and I point
01:50:52.439 --> 01:50:55.880
that out forever yeah a hundred percent
01:50:55.880 --> 01:50:58.180
the arts and shit that it's almost
01:50:58.180 --> 01:50:59.859
Donald Trump is trying to find ways to build
01:50:59.859 --> 01:51:04.520
stuff that leave a legacy in DC where people
01:51:04.520 --> 01:51:07.079
can say this is what Trump built as opposed to
01:51:07.079 --> 01:51:09.199
the disaster that he's been as president
01:51:09.199 --> 01:51:11.439
but if you're going to build anything build something
01:51:11.439 --> 01:51:14.460
that's worthwhile and that's useful and that's
01:51:14.460 --> 01:51:16.850
a high-speed rail system is useful
01:51:16.850 --> 01:51:19.350
it's sort of if you give a gift to an individual
01:51:19.350 --> 01:51:22.529
right if you give them
01:51:22.529 --> 01:51:25.130
you give someone a new iPhone they're gonna
01:51:25.130 --> 01:51:27.409
think of you every time they they pick it up
01:51:27.409 --> 01:51:29.750
it's a tool yes they see it all the time every
01:51:29.750 --> 01:51:33.890
day they're oh man thank you JT for my phone
01:51:33.890 --> 01:51:36.890
it's whereas if you give someone
01:51:36.890 --> 01:51:39.510
something that they use one time you're
01:51:39.510 --> 01:51:41.390
appreciative but you tend to forget about
01:51:41.390 --> 01:51:43.380
it it's not the same right Something you use
01:51:43.380 --> 01:51:45.020
all the time, you're going to think about all
01:51:45.020 --> 01:51:47.260
the time. My uncle taught me how to tie a tie
01:51:47.260 --> 01:51:51.569
for the last 40 years, every time I tie a tie,
01:51:51.689 --> 01:51:54.970
right? It's you're giving this up and it's
01:51:54.970 --> 01:51:57.529
useful. Totally. And high speed rail is useful.
01:51:57.750 --> 01:52:00.890
think about the job. For one, it allows
01:52:00.890 --> 01:52:03.460
economic activity. Because you're talking about
01:52:03.460 --> 01:52:04.899
building something that's going from one end
01:52:04.899 --> 01:52:06.380
of the country to the other end of the country.
01:52:06.439 --> 01:52:08.380
It's a long-term project that will take years
01:52:08.380 --> 01:52:10.420
to build. And there will be people doing those
01:52:10.420 --> 01:52:12.460
jobs for years, the technical part of it, the
01:52:12.460 --> 01:52:16.779
AI part of it, all of these things that are necessary
01:52:16.779 --> 01:52:18.680
for this train, especially being a modern train
01:52:18.680 --> 01:52:20.939
and being built today. Those are jobs. I would
01:52:20.939 --> 01:52:22.680
think about what it would do for intermodal transport
01:52:22.680 --> 01:52:24.600
too, right? Intermodal transport. For freight.
01:52:25.449 --> 01:52:27.069
the goods that are moving from point A to point
01:52:27.069 --> 01:52:29.449
B all of those things get a lot of trucks off
01:52:29.449 --> 01:52:31.430
the road but they'd reassign the truck drivers
01:52:31.430 --> 01:52:34.970
to other work yeah it's just it's a win-
01:52:34.970 --> 01:52:36.810
win because the trucks are endangered anyway
01:52:36.810 --> 01:52:39.369
I'm worried about the truckers and the truckers
01:52:39.369 --> 01:52:41.609
are in deep because of self-driving
01:52:41.609 --> 01:52:43.989
trucks and they're going to lose their jobs but
01:52:43.989 --> 01:52:46.770
this would alleviate that mitigate they will
01:52:46.770 --> 01:52:49.069
lose their jobs either way in reality in the
01:52:49.069 --> 01:52:52.109
next 10-15 years Yeah, that's just true. But
01:52:52.109 --> 01:52:54.310
you're building new jobs with something
01:52:54.310 --> 01:52:58.489
this. I've got a few comments, and then I want
01:52:58.489 --> 01:53:01.670
to talk about Ted Cruz and people like that.
01:53:03.029 --> 01:53:04.829
Romeo's car. I'm really surprised that Robby
01:53:04.829 --> 01:53:06.510
voted for the Democrat because of the abortion
01:53:06.510 --> 01:53:08.869
issue, but I get it. Neither party is pro-life.
01:53:08.890 --> 01:53:12.659
Robby, very quickly. Wait, Republican Party
01:53:12.659 --> 01:53:15.039
is pro-life. Oh, I see. No, they're not.
01:53:15.060 --> 01:53:17.020
the Republican Party has no problem at all killing
01:53:17.020 --> 01:53:22.119
kids using sanctions and bombs. The Democrats
01:53:22.119 --> 01:53:25.140
have no party dismembering unborn children using
01:53:25.140 --> 01:53:28.619
saline and forceps. It's murder no matter which
01:53:28.619 --> 01:53:32.079
ways that you go. And I opted - It's either,
01:53:32.199 --> 01:53:35.039
Robby. So, in regards to living kids.
01:53:35.420 --> 01:53:41.039
Yep. So, I decided to vote against Trump's handpicked
01:53:41.039 --> 01:53:44.300
successor for my district. He does not get to
01:53:44.300 --> 01:53:46.500
have that without a - I'm not going to give him
01:53:46.500 --> 01:53:49.069
my vote. Thank you. Robby West, thanks
01:53:49.069 --> 01:53:52.550
for the Canadian $5. And for being Canadian and
01:53:52.550 --> 01:53:56.069
still watching an American show. We apologize.
01:53:56.750 --> 01:53:59.489
We apologize, again, on behalf of our stupid
01:53:59.489 --> 01:54:02.770
government. Trump train can't happen as it undermines
01:54:02.770 --> 01:54:05.529
established rackets such as the airlines. That's
01:54:05.529 --> 01:54:08.350
what all these programs are. That's why all these
01:54:08.350 --> 01:54:11.449
programs are DOA, even if Democrats support it.
01:54:11.609 --> 01:54:15.220
look. What you would want to do, ideally,
01:54:15.220 --> 01:54:17.699
is bring prices down. It wouldn't. I don't think
01:54:17.699 --> 01:54:20.880
it would affect the airlines at all. Not to the
01:54:20.880 --> 01:54:23.039
extreme extent. to get to New York, I took
01:54:23.039 --> 01:54:24.680
a bus. I didn't take an airline because airlines
01:54:24.680 --> 01:54:29.399
were too expensive. High-speed rail, I would
01:54:29.399 --> 01:54:31.739
have taken in a heartbeat. Meaning the money
01:54:31.739 --> 01:54:33.300
is still going out. I don't think it would destroy
01:54:33.300 --> 01:54:35.199
airlines. It doesn't destroy airlines in Europe.
01:54:35.319 --> 01:54:39.260
It just adds another benefit of travel. Airlines
01:54:39.260 --> 01:54:43.180
in Europe, they still exist. Yeah, yeah. Yeah,
01:54:43.199 --> 01:54:45.720
I don't. Yeah, I think they're two different
01:54:45.720 --> 01:54:51.119
things. All right, so we have three major contenders,
01:54:51.239 --> 01:54:56.600
would-be contenders for the 2028. Ted, can we
01:54:56.600 --> 01:54:59.159
just dispose, first of all, of Ted Cruz? Yes.
01:54:59.500 --> 01:55:01.199
Ted Cruz is not going to be president.
01:55:01.300 --> 01:55:02.699
He's not going to be the Republican nominee.
01:55:03.060 --> 01:55:06.140
He is literally hated by everybody. He probably
01:55:06.140 --> 01:55:09.560
hates himself if he really thinks about it. I
01:55:09.560 --> 01:55:12.020
that's ridiculous. He's not a viable candidate.
01:55:12.439 --> 01:55:15.520
Brian Kemp, I feel that's a blast from the
01:55:15.520 --> 01:55:18.439
past. it's there was an
01:55:18.439 --> 01:55:21.699
editorial cartoon when John McCain ran in 2008.
01:55:22.239 --> 01:55:23.840
Wait, just so I'm clear, Brian Kemp is Florida,
01:55:23.960 --> 01:55:27.850
right? Georgia. Georgia. Thank you. And this
01:55:27.850 --> 01:55:32.489
08 cartoon showed John McCain with a stamp across
01:55:32.489 --> 01:55:34.810
his forehead that said, best if used before 2000.
01:55:35.270 --> 01:55:38.550
And, the milk carton. And
01:55:38.550 --> 01:55:41.449
I feel that's kind of a Brian Kemp,
01:55:41.569 --> 01:55:46.390
best if used by maybe 2016 or something
01:55:46.390 --> 01:55:49.350
that. I just feel his, it sailed.
01:55:49.789 --> 01:55:52.130
I feel less that about Gavin Newsom, but
01:55:52.130 --> 01:55:54.590
I kind of still feel that about Gavin Newsom,
01:55:54.609 --> 01:56:01.380
his moment. is kind of not ideal. But Ron
01:56:01.380 --> 01:56:04.460
DeSantis, we talked to, I mentioned this right
01:56:04.460 --> 01:56:06.920
after the election. I said, Ron DeSantis comes
01:56:06.920 --> 01:56:10.680
out of this a king. He fortress Florida
01:56:10.680 --> 01:56:16.479
and he kept Florida red, no losses. He's the
01:56:16.479 --> 01:56:19.399
king of Florida. He can, he can credibly go to
01:56:19.399 --> 01:56:22.939
the
base and say, I deserve this nomination because
01:56:22.939 --> 01:56:26.010
look at what I did. I was the only winner. The
01:56:26.010 --> 01:56:28.149
problem is I don't see how there's a path to
01:56:28.149 --> 01:56:34.210
victory in the fall. So agreed, Ted Cruz, no.
01:56:34.890 --> 01:56:36.750
Brian Kemp, that's the one that Trump called
01:56:36.750 --> 01:56:39.550
to try to get, hey, give me 23 more votes. Exactly.
01:56:40.170 --> 01:56:44.050
Okay. Okay, now I know I have the picture in
01:56:44.050 --> 01:56:48.689
my mind. Yeah, I don't see president on him.
01:56:49.149 --> 01:56:52.170
I just don't see it on him in general. It doesn't
01:56:52.170 --> 01:56:55.600
come across that way to me. DeSantis agreed.
01:56:55.840 --> 01:56:59.239
DeSantis looked strong. In a wave election, he
01:56:59.239 --> 01:57:01.520
was able to maintain Florida. Now, that's the
01:57:01.520 --> 01:57:02.979
way it's going to be cast, and that's the way
01:57:02.979 --> 01:57:05.460
he's going to sell it, right? all the Democrats
01:57:05.460 --> 01:57:08.560
took over. In state houses, governorships, a
01:57:08.560 --> 01:57:12.800
House, Senate, I remained. I'm the last man standing.
01:57:12.899 --> 01:57:15.840
I'm the one who remains. Right. Okay, that's
01:57:15.840 --> 01:57:18.340
a hell of a pitch. That's powerful. That is a
01:57:18.340 --> 01:57:20.140
powerful pitch that he didn't necessarily have
01:57:20.140 --> 01:57:22.180
the first time around. This time around, he has
01:57:22.180 --> 01:57:24.539
it because you can see it. this is what happened.
01:57:24.579 --> 01:57:27.479
However, people stuck with me in Florida, despite
01:57:27.479 --> 01:57:29.579
this wave election that took all of these other
01:57:29.579 --> 01:57:31.060
people out of their seats. No, I think that's
01:57:31.060 --> 01:57:35.069
a strong mantle that does translate. Because
01:57:35.069 --> 01:57:36.470
ultimately, what you're looking for is a presidential
01:57:36.470 --> 01:57:38.770
message. And none of these people who are going
01:57:38.770 --> 01:57:41.210
to run have been president prior. And so what
01:57:41.210 --> 01:57:43.810
you're trying to show is, as a Republican, I
01:57:43.810 --> 01:57:47.010
can keep people, I can put asses in seats, I
01:57:47.010 --> 01:57:49.539
can... win elections that's what you're trying
01:57:49.539 --> 01:57:51.359
to show and you're trying to project in one respect
01:57:51.359 --> 01:57:52.859
and you're able to do it in one of the largest
01:57:52.859 --> 01:57:56.029
states in the country I still think it's Vance
01:57:56.029 --> 01:57:59.819
though I think it's it's Vance this whole
01:57:59.819 --> 01:58:02.359
idea he hasn't decided to run again ridiculous
01:58:02.359 --> 01:58:05.060
yeah I think it's Vance of course it's
01:58:05.060 --> 01:58:08.500
Vance it has to be good I'm the VP especially
01:58:08.500 --> 01:58:15.380
if Trump dies in office oh Or gets 25th or resigns
01:58:15.380 --> 01:58:17.000
or has a stroke or whatever. See, the 25th is
01:58:17.000 --> 01:58:19.800
more complicated. Because for the 25th, you can
01:58:19.800 --> 01:58:23.520
get called basically that you put a knife in
01:58:23.520 --> 01:58:29.079
Caesar. It's the Brutus option. Yeah. It's
01:58:29.079 --> 01:58:32.859
you put a knife in your own guy. And then conveniently,
01:58:33.020 --> 01:58:36.539
you became the acting president. That's the problem
01:58:36.539 --> 01:58:38.699
with the way the amendment was written. to be
01:58:38.699 --> 01:58:41.579
fair Trump's base put the knife in him first
01:58:41.579 --> 01:58:45.000
people me are the ones who gave him millions
01:58:45.000 --> 01:58:47.539
and millions of stab wounds he looks hamburger
01:58:47.539 --> 01:58:51.939
very clear and it has to be very accepted meaning
01:58:51.970 --> 01:58:54.890
if it's not accepted it can't be him well the
01:58:54.890 --> 01:58:57.510
thing is Vance has no credibility that's his
01:58:57.510 --> 01:58:59.750
problem what happens people on my side don't
01:58:59.750 --> 01:59:02.590
trust him okay what about yellow what happens
01:59:02.590 --> 01:59:05.130
if Vance becomes president in February somehow
01:59:05.970 --> 01:59:09.649
We'll just say a large pterodactyl comes and
01:59:09.649 --> 01:59:13.090
picks up Donald Trump and swoops off with him.
01:59:13.449 --> 01:59:18.970
Okay, Robby, what happens at that point? Let's
01:59:18.970 --> 01:59:21.789
say Vance has a year and a year and a half in
01:59:21.789 --> 01:59:25.350
office and does all sorts of things. Aren't there
01:59:25.350 --> 01:59:28.189
things he could do to earn your trust? Yeah,
01:59:28.210 --> 01:59:31.310
if he does it. So there's two big ifs here. One,
01:59:32.050 --> 01:59:35.489
will Trump leave office? I don't think this is
01:59:35.489 --> 01:59:37.989
an assumption. So let's just assume that he does.
01:59:38.109 --> 01:59:41.869
If he does, then J.D. Vance has got two options.
01:59:42.149 --> 01:59:45.689
He can he can play to the Republican establishment
01:59:45.689 --> 01:59:49.869
or he can play to the to the America first wing.
01:59:50.729 --> 01:59:52.810
Either way, or he can be something completely
01:59:52.810 --> 01:59:54.869
new. Because don't forget, he came out of the
01:59:54.869 --> 01:59:58.390
Democratic Party originally. Or he will. If he
01:59:58.390 --> 01:59:59.850
does that, though, he'll have some of the Kamala
01:59:59.850 --> 02:00:02.289
Harris. What if he's the populist left right
02:00:02.289 --> 02:00:08.170
sweet spot? then he wins. But right now, he -
02:00:08.170 --> 02:00:11.970
What if he reinvents the whole alignment? Well,
02:00:11.970 --> 02:00:14.510
then again, then he wins. I honestly think he
02:00:14.510 --> 02:00:18.689
could. Well, if the Republicans have the good
02:00:18.689 --> 02:00:21.829
sense to jettison Trump, sure. And then if JD
02:00:21.829 --> 02:00:24.729
Vance has enough cognitive fortitude to actually
02:00:24.729 --> 02:00:27.029
think for himself, those are two very big Fs.
02:00:27.050 --> 02:00:31.430
Well, that's a big F, yeah. Has JD Vance ever
02:00:31.430 --> 02:00:33.909
actually had an independent thought? The fact
02:00:33.909 --> 02:00:35.510
that the dude is able to walk without a spine
02:00:35.510 --> 02:00:39.130
is amazing to me. Look, it could be an LBJ situation.
02:00:39.590 --> 02:00:43.069
when you read the Robert Caro five-volume
02:00:43.069 --> 02:00:45.529
biography of LBJ, it's the most amazing
02:00:45.529 --> 02:00:48.289
story. this is a guy who basically hobnobbed
02:00:48.289 --> 02:00:50.789
with racists, came out of the hill country of
02:00:50.789 --> 02:00:54.810
Texas. Everybody had every reason to think that
02:00:54.810 --> 02:00:58.170
he was a shithead. And then as soon as JFK dies,
02:00:58.390 --> 02:01:00.880
he's immediately... Civil Rights Act is
02:01:00.880 --> 02:01:02.859
my top priority. It turned out that he'd been
02:01:02.859 --> 02:01:05.560
plotting and scheming his entire life to hopefully
02:01:05.560 --> 02:01:08.100
be in a position to one day be able to address
02:01:08.100 --> 02:01:11.140
America's original sin, which was racism. And
02:01:11.140 --> 02:01:14.359
he fucking did. what if J.D. Vance has
02:01:14.359 --> 02:01:17.279
a secret agenda and he basically he comes into
02:01:17.279 --> 02:01:19.380
power? He's, I'm the president of the United
02:01:19.380 --> 02:01:22.720
States. History is watching. And I have the excuse
02:01:22.720 --> 02:01:26.199
of the Democratic Congress. Oh, well, I have
02:01:26.199 --> 02:01:29.020
to reach across the aisle. I have to work with
02:01:29.020 --> 02:01:31.979
them I don't have the majority and I can do a
02:01:31.979 --> 02:01:35.060
populist left slash right thing did he win I
02:01:35.060 --> 02:01:37.600
can't it can't work that way it can work that
02:01:37.600 --> 02:01:39.659
way it just can't the reason why I say can't
02:01:39.659 --> 02:01:43.270
it's not that I what you're saying is I accept
02:01:43.270 --> 02:01:45.550
that same thing with FDR right this guy's rich
02:01:45.550 --> 02:01:47.189
you think he's going to follow the thing for
02:01:47.189 --> 02:01:49.949
the rich he does the New Deal so they can do
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it the issue is Vance wins a Republican Congress
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is coming in with pants. It would be very
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weird if they put in Democrats down the line
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and then they put Vance in up top. It would just
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be kind of strange. It would be a Republican
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Congress with Vance kind of chomping against
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this party. But in a way, President Vance is
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better off with a Democratic Congress. Now, by
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the way, he does have a good argument, though.
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Vance could say, hey, look, Trumpism just got
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destroyed. It failed. We need to do something
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else. We need to have a different. We tried it
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your way. Let's try it my way. Also, keep in
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mind, y'all got to remember the Democratic Party
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that is going to be sworn in next year in January
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is not the Democratic Party that exists today.
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A lot of those people who got elected, at least
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on paper, are populists. We'll see. So we'll
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see what happens. But keep in mind, though, all
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you need is a coalition. Then I don't believe
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any of the shit that they said. They should care
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for him. I totally agree with you. but
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but on paper though that's what it is
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are they able to buck the trend the Democrats
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can't have now they have to govern that's the
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question can Democrats govern well that's the
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question well they can't they can't govern
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yeah they don't have the presidency well of course
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they can because what they're able to do is that
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they can legislate they can't govern well those
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are two different those are two sides of the
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same coin they are able to go through and put
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together bills to to work on reindustrialization
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of the country. I was just talking about Note
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Rail. Those are things they're able to do to
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have it appeal to everyone. If Trump vetoes that,
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then that just makes him even weaker than he
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already is. It doesn't matter. That veto could
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be overridden. 100%. And also that makes a case
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for the Republican Party, the 25th Amendment,
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Trump saying this guy's insane. He's going to
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get someone that the majority of the people want.
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So to say that Congress doesn't have power, That's
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not true. It's true that they don't use it. It's
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true that they abdicate it, but it's also true
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that they have the power should they choose to
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take it back. True. Agree. It seems a good
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place to wrap it up. Anything else that you guys
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want to say? No. All right. We'll be back tomorrow.
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This is what we need one. We will be back tomorrow
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morning, 9 a.m. Eastern time, doing an hour
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from 9 to 10. We'll see you then. Thanks everyone
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for tuning in and see you tomorrow. Bye. Have
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a good one guys.