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All right, Dallia took down Samson, Helen took
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down Samson, Helen took down Troy, and a
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parade of American women took down Tiger Woods.
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Now Jensen Wang, the man running the most
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important company in the entire AI trade is
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next on the list. And just thank God,
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Bitcoin doesn't have his CEO. So, Jensen just
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admitted to an affair with a woman U
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.S. intelligence official suspect works for the Chinese
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state security. Turns out the biggest backdoor into
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Navidia was never in the code. Navidia dropped
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over a quarter trillion dollars in a single
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session, but surprisingly the rest of the market
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didn't seem to mind. But that's not all
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we got. Binance CFO just resigned a little
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bit suspicious. A lightning platform is telling everyone
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to shut down their servers. Taiwan banned shortsellers.
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the Fed survey has layout fears at levels
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we haven't seen since COVID. Plus, Joey, our
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little MSTR bowl will be happy. Sailor stack
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some more corn. So, Jensen, Wang, is he
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the key, is he the key man risk
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to take out the AI bubble? Strap in,
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the boys are all here. I am Nathan
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with the BTC sessions, and this is Bitcast.
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The issue is not red or blue. The
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issue is between the state and you. It
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can be a little bit of a warning
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sign. It gives you a tool to involve.
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That sounds like a utopia, my friend. It
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is. It's exactly a utopia. With Bitcoin, no
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one can take it from you. All right,
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shout out to the New York Post. We
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just had some great, great headlines coming in
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right now. Whang, bang, bang, bang. I think
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that Joey had another good one there in
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the chat, but let's get right into it.
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So what happened? What's going on here? Well,
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he made some poor decisions. So, Neville. Video
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CEO, Jensen Wang has admitted to cheating on
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his wife after revealing he had an affair
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with Alice Swang. Oh, that's suspicious. An executive
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now at the center of a suspected Chinese
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spy case. U .S. intelligence officials suspect Alice
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of working with China's military of state security
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to gather information about Avidia. And there might
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even be more to that story we'll get
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into a little bit later. So he did
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come out. We got the full apology that
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I believe he shared to investors here, dropping
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the whole thing. I owe my family and
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all of you an apology. I was unfaithful
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to my wife. My actions hurt her and
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our children, and there is no excuse for
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what I did. I am deeply sorry. But
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surprisingly enough, the market didn't really seem to
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react all that bad this morning. I was
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expecting a lot more of a bloodbath in
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the kind of AI space here. So they
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traded down at one point in time over
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$300 billion down in terms of market cap.
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I think last I was looking at about
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$257 billion. The U .S. stock adds $1
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.5 trillion to the market cap rising to
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a new high of the day, as Gaines,
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as Raleigh gains momentum and technology stocks rebound.
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So everything up, but Naviddy was down. So
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just to kick off the conversation, Joey, I'll
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start with you. What are your thoughts on
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Mr. Jensen here? Is he to blame for
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the bubble about to pop? Where are we
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at? Went from pumping the spy to pumping
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a spy? I love it. I love it.
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Hey. We need a cowbell or something that
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we ring when Joey occasionally says something funny.
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That was pretty good. We were talking behind,
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like, before the show, and like, Walker did
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point out, we all were saying, there were
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signs, man. We definitely talked about how there
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was signs of an AI slash tech overinvestment
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bubble, call it whatever you want. You cannot
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be signing tits at public gatherings. If you're
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a CEO of a Fortune 500 company, maybe
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the most important company, maybe at the heart
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of the entire financial market, the heart of
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what's coming in the next 10 years, the
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heart of basically every single bit of GDP
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growth in the biggest economy. earth, hard to,
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hard to be doing that and not see
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some repercussions. So we can, we can maybe
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start with, this guy, okay, I, like, I
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saw a number of different takes on this.
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I'm going to try and tread lightly a
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little bit, even though probably I don't have
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to, but I ought to, uh, from my
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own sort of Just that's not her in
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the background there, is it? No, it's not.
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Okay, that's big, sir. And I think that
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might actually, that is racist, yeah, we got
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it, we've canceled now. I haven't looked at
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her photo enough time. What's her real name?
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Because it's not Alice. No, no shit. That's
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what we call in Canada. We call that
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your Mandarin name when you go eat at
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the Mandarin buffet. All the people working there
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are named like Tom, Sally, and Alice, but
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none of them are actually named. I'm not
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you're going to say it's Brampton Woman, Joey.
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No, it's not a Brampton woman. Okay, why
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don't we start with this? What do we
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expect a public company CEO from a public
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company CEO in terms of, like, bedroom behavior?
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The question is whether or not the market
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expects the same thing as any rational male.
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And I don't say this because I'm, you
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know, also running a harem of mistresses or
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anything like that. But at this level of
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success and wealth and influence, it's not just
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Chinese spies who are gunning,
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get, you know, they're not just, they're not
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the only people lining up to get piped.
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Let's leave it at that, okay? And so
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if you think that Jensen is any different
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from a guy like Bezos, right, who cheated
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on his wife with, what's her face there?
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Any different than Tiger Woods, like you mentioned
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there, Nathan? You know, a guy. has a
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couple of kids and it turns out in
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the now, apart from his green jacket, it's
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probably the thing he's going to be most
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well known for is that one, you know,
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Saturday or afternoon, Saturday or Sunday afternoon where
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he crashed into a tree or a pole
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or something out in front of his house,
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fucked up on pain meds because his wife
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caught him cheating, right? These guys all have
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to deal with this level of temptation, we'll
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call it. And I think the market broadly
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understands that when you're talking about key man
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risk, like we've said, before, it's not necessarily
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about one guy making a bad decision at
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this at this stage in the game in
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the year 2026. What it's about more, and
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we've joked about this, is are you going
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to do something that society finds so appalling,
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so unpalatable that it's going to affect your
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share price? I'm with you, Nate. I thought
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for sure this morning it was going to
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be a fucking bloodbath. Because Bitcoin, which is
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usually the first thing to react, especially when
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markets are closed, to off 2 % almost
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right away. As soon as the commentary came
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out that Jensen was going to release a
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state, that NVIDIA's board was going to do
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an investigation. And then obviously, it's going to
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be some other stuff we talked about in
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a second here. I think everybody in my
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circle of Bikwiners, you know, I wasn't talking
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to you guys yesterday, but in my circle
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of Bikoners, everyone's going, once the market opens,
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it's going to get worse. But it never
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did. It never did, which is great. We
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love to see that. The question for NVIDIA
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now, I think is twofold. One, how much
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financial impropriety was part of this? We're going
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to get into that in a second. And
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then the other question is, do you have
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a guy you can put in that seat,
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will command the cult of personality the way
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Jensen did. Jensen's very well spoken. He's pretty
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good on a mic. He's very candid when
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he speaks. He's not afraid to say difficult
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things. He's much like Elon, maybe with a
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little more polish when it comes to being
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above reproach, being above the mob, being above
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the sort of commentary at class and what
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they think of them and how he behaves
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and all this stuff. But this is the
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ultimate challenge. This is hard mode. You cheated
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on your wife and went public. And now
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your wife is also getting dragged a little
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bit for her appearance. Like, it's like very,
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it's a very difficult situation to be in.
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I don't envy him. But man, I got
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to tell you, if anyone can handle this,
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given the nature of the company that he's
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running, the importance of that company to the
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U .S. government and to other companies in
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that sphere of capax loans, flywheel, we've talked
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about all this stuff, man, I got to
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tell you, I don't think he goes anywhere.
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I don't care how bad this gets almost
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unless there's something that's really, really damaging to
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the national interest. somehow. I don't think he's
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going anywhere. I will caveat that with one
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more thing, and then I'll pass it to
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whoever wants it next. The Democrats will
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an opportunity to drag this guy into a
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public hearing on January 4th if they want
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it. And so the question becomes, will they,
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and how will it look if they decide
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to go that direction? Trump is bleeding popularity.
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The Republican Party is bleeding popularity. This will
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definitely start to give the anti -AI data
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center anti -AI crowd a little bit more
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ammunition. That's tangible. and it's a name everyone
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recognizes you no longer have to talk about
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whether or not the cooling loops are privatizing
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your water supply. It turns out this guy
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is just a bit of a douchebed, right?
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And people like that kind of thing. It
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sticks. Just ask Russell Brand. Okay, he'll tell
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you how much it sticks. So we'll see
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you. I'm fascinated by this. I am an
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Nvidia shareholder. I'm not going to sell. I'm
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still buying every week along with MSTR, which
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we'll talk about later. We know, Joey. We
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know. We know. The whole chat knows. Everyone
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knows. I'm holding on to Nvidia. I think
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you buy that. They're the leader. You buy
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that at any price and you hope that
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this blows over. My suspicion, honestly, I'd to
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bet is that it will. Well, I want
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to get, Brandon, I want to get your
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take on this. But the thing that sticks
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out to me is I've been waiting for
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this moment where I think the government's going
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to step in and take control of some
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of the AI companies. In some respect, I
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feel like the bubble popping was probably the
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excuse for national interest to step in. But
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national security leadership might be enough for them
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to get their hands in there. Brandon, your
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thoughts? Yeah, that's a great point. And the
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Democrats, like you said, Joey, I mean, that
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those guys, coming after AI, basically anything that
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has anything to do with human progress, which
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is the irony of it, right? Like, they're
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the progressives, but it's always like anti -progress,
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which we talked about the other day of
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them, every commercial is always like them walking
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back their statements. And then like the other
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side was generally, like at least the Trump
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doctrine is like, hey, let's build stuff. Let's
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outgrow the debt, you know, whatever. So, you
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know, funny note there. But you go back
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to like FDR, FDR, there's a book. I
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haven't read a ton of it's like a
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thousand pages, but about FDR and all the
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communists he had inside the white house and
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just all of some probably by design, because
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he, you know, he kind of, you know,
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you know, floated that way a little bit,
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but also just the espionage. And this has
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been going on for thousands of years. And
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so people, to your point, Joey, I don't
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know how much will happen. It my only,
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my only thinking of this is remember Howard
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Dean 20 years ago, which we, we mentioned
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Howard Howard on the show before, just yelling,
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yeah, and just like his campaign cratering, you
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know, in, in 2004 election. And then you,
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you fast forward 10, 12 years to the
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Trump election, the guy was just saying whatever,
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right? Like the montages of the Trump campaign
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in 2016 are something like, just the all
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timers of all timers. And just him, like,
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you know, you should be in. jail, you
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know, to Hillary and all this stuff. Like,
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he, he kind of showed, like, we've moved
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beyond, you know, call on what it is.
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People just have a lot less, you know,
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faith or, you know, religious, spiritual, spirituality, you
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know, nowadays than people did. You had this,
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like,
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like humans just like, okay, you got to
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be at this standard. That's largely gone. Like,
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a lot of people just don't care. So
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to your point, Joey, again, is this really
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going to do much? I mean, Bill Clinton
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stayed in power. He was, you know, had
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Monica under the desk in the Oval Office.
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People didn't care. I mean, that that was
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like, that was like, that was like the
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most PG thing that he's done from allegations
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that I've seen online. Exactly. So, I mean,
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like, I would be more shocked that he
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would leave because he would be ousted than
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him staying. I mean, like, that would be
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kind of shocking to me. Unless, like you
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guys said, like, unless there's just way more
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to it, you know, obviously, like, what was
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the level that this went to, what, you
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know, what kind of information. But this is,
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this is to me, like, you think of
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Eric, Eric Swalwell and, you know, so they're
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just clowns. But Sean Ryan had on, I
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don't know what it was like early this
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year, but he had like a sex agent.
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on like a KGB sex agent and it
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was a really fascinating episode but she was
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groomed since she was like 16 18 to
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be a sex agent and you go back
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to like Cleopatra and you know Helen of
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Troy or whatever like all of them like
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right like men always these these guys in
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power like the the key man risk like
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you know Joey just said like is very
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real and the tiger woods all this where
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you just think you're on top of the
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world and you just you're like in the
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zone it's like Caleb Williams on Monday Night
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Football last night like you just think I'm
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so in the zone that I can do
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no wrong. and then you throw four interception.
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A terrible game. So high on your own
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supply that you just think you, anything you
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touch turns of gold. And so that's just
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the human nature, the befallen human nature that
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we're in, where you have these sex agents
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that just, they wait for their time and
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they can get men to do wild things.
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and so I think my thing for everyone
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is just prepare. we talk about this all
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the time in the show too, your sovereignty
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stack, your privacy stack, your your 5Gs, your
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guns, your gold, your your Bitcoin and all
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this stuff, your grub, your ground, like make
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sure these things are prepared. because this is
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only going to get crazier, in my opinion.
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I know many of your opinions, it's only
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going to get more nuts as this forth
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turning, this bridge time, you know, goes on
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here because that's the way Fiat has to
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die. It has to get crazier for people
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to finally be on their knees, but I've
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had enough. And so to me, this is
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just like an appetize, like an hors d
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'oeuvre's hour right now. I love it. Walker,
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your thoughts there? Boy, I mean, I don't
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know, maybe like you publicly traded CEOs need
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like mandatory chastity belts or something like that.
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I'm not, bad way to go. You have
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to do it's best for the investor, right?
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You have an obligation to your shareholders. Yeah,
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boy, I mean, I think that Joey's right.
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We were talking about this backstage. Like, ultimately,
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like, there's, I mean, our culture is just
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degraded into so much, like, acceptance of trash
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behavior that it's not going to be the,
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it's not going to be the, it's not
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going to be the, uh, the sexual impropriety,
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you know, the adultery that is what, you
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know, potentially does Jensen. And it's going to
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be if, like, if he, you know, it's
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not going to be. conducted his business in
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such a way that he was either trading
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with or, you know, selling things to covered
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entities. And for those who don't know, like
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a covered entity is somebody who's on like
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the no sell list for the US government,
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like if you sell to them, you get
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in big fucking trouble. I mean, if you're
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a normal person anyway, I don't know if
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you're like the, you know, holding up the
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entire fucking S &P 500, maybe you get
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a little bit of a, maybe you get
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a little bit of a pass. I mean,
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like, that's the other thing. It's like the
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rules like, and it probably does depend a
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little bit on the demo. Democrats and how
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they choose to pursue something like this or
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not, because let's be honest, like, none of
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them really give a shit either. They only
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get, no politician actually gives a shit about
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anything that they, that they bitch about. All
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they actually care about is whether or not
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they're going to get a good sound bite
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out of it and whether it'll make them
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look like the good guy. That is all
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they care. They care about the semblance. They
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care about the, the, uh, the, the, the,
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the, the perspective, the idea of themselves and
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how that will be taken by voters. They
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don't actually care about anything they do, which
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is what most of the, uh, the, the,
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uh, the, the, the, uh,! the time they
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don't actually do anything so let's see but
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yeah i think you know i don't think
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this is gonna end him unless it turns
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out that he was like selling things to
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people he shouldn't doing sweet our deals selling
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stuff to the chinese military that he shouldn't
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have been and stuff like that because that
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kind of stuff it looks pretty bad do
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we do we know by the way who
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revealed the affair did did he come clean
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he did after so i have here did
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somebody else break it that's the times on
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the 28th Is the first thing I see.
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Yeah. Okay, yeah. I'm not sure how they
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got it, but that's the first thing I
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see. Because he was pulled in front of
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a committee. So three House Republicans committee chairs
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have asked Navidia CEO, Jensen Wang, to sit
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in a closed door briefing on November 18th.
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I thought that they had a prior meeting
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beforehand where they had revealed this as well.
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So I'm not sure when it broke, but
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I feel like basically cat got out of
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the bag. There were some issues there and
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then he later admitted to it after the
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allegations were already floating around. So presumably, presumably
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like the Chinese probably leaked this, right? I
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would assume that if they were still getting
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useful intel from him, that they would have
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probably kept this a secret for longer, but
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they realized they could do maximum damage right
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now by making said affair public. Just like
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my guy, I'm no expert in, you know,
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espionage, but that's just what I'm guessing. And
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the Chinese do have tend to have a
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bit of more of a long -term planning
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mindset, I think, oftentimes. than the, uh, then
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we Americans do simply because they don't have
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to think in four year cycles because the
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party reigns supreme. You know, they're, they're not
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a, it's, it's not a real, like, okay,
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it's, it's, it's communist control with some elements
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of, uh, free trade capitalism that allow them
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to actually keep their communist, uh, system of
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control going. So I would be interested. I
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mean, we can, we know
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and it's interesting to zoom out a little
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bit and see how this sort of dovetails
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with their release of, or they're, uh, allowing
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the release of various, open source open weight
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models and that the goal is seems to
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be pretty obviously to basically erode the capital
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base of the majority of the U .S.
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stock market by decreasing the moat of these
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big AI players. That's on the software side.
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Now this is on the hardware side of
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AI, right? So they're clearly trying to, they
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know that most of the U .S. economy,
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or in terms of the stock market at
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least, is propped up by, you know, there's
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so much fucking money in these. in these
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AI companies, both software and, like, hardware said.
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Invidia, it, like, I mean, it's insane how
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huge they are, right? Obviously, they produce really
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great products, but, like, the Chinese clearly see
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that as, like, well, that's a very obvious,
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like, thing to poke at, to try and
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chip away at. And so it seems to
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me that this is part of a, I
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think that it was probably less about intelligence
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gathering, and it was more about having a
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way to destabilize the U .S. economy, if
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I had to guess. Because if it was
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about intelligence gathering, like, I don't know, like,
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it's such a, it's such a, it's, it's,
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such an old, I mean, I guess it's
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an old school way, you know, tried and
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true method, you know, get a, get a
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sex spy in there. But I have to
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imagine that they're not like, that they have
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the ability to reverse engineer probably most of
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Nvidia's technology already, if I had to guess.
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I don't think they needed Jensen for that,
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right? Maybe they sold some things people that
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couldn't, but I guarantee they could have gotten
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their hands on all this shit in a
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number of other ways that were probably less
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difficult. This to me seems like a larger
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bid to try and destabilize the U .S.
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economy if I had just just my two
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cents I don't know what you guys think
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no I don't necessarily disagree because again going
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back to that key man risk that was
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one of the things that I was really
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kind of focusing on well prepping today was
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just this idea like we're so beyond any
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P .E. multiple or like the underlines the
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fundamental investor evaluation but it's so out there
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it's purely marketing and personality and vibes at
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this point in time which again like you
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could go through uh Zuckerberg and Elon and
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Jensen and even Sailor and strategy like it
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has very little to do with the lying
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to help people feel about it, that if
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you want to hurt the stock market, you
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go after the key man, which also means
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it's a huge vulnerability. I'm not thinking that
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if we have some sort of black swan
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event, it's probably related to one of those
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guys in their personal life, something personally going
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on with them. Joy, I know there are
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some other things I want to get into
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with you in a second, specifically about where,
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hey, you may have been selling chips or
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information, but the other thing I just want
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to, like, pause on for a second, because
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I think it's really important, you know? We
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have, you know, mostly men watching and the
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occasional lady from time to time, but I
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just won't take a moment to pause to
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say, there are women. There are women, there
509
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are dozens of them, and we love you
510
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all for being here. you there is like
511
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there is huge value in marriage and staying
512
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true like this is
how great men get
513
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taken out and I cannot stress that enough
514
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that like for the love of God marriage
515
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is both good for women and for men
516
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there's a bit of a difference in the
517
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trade there but they both come into play
518
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like this is how the great guy's taken
519
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out it's not by threats it's not by
520
00:19:10.260 --> 00:19:12.280
this is it's always by blackmail some crap
521
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they did behind the seats with some woman
522
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that's where they're vulnerable for the love of
523
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god like if you really want to make
524
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it to the end and be remembered and
525
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have that legacy don't tarnish it by like
526
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just screwing around with some Chinese spy who
527
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happened to show up at the bar where
528
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you're out there drinking one night. Like, don't
529
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let you be this guy on all the
530
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covers. Don't let this happen to you. It's
531
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just absolutely not worth it. Like, I was
532
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talking to Joey beforehand. Like, this is where
533
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the whole, like, dating aspect has been completely
534
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screwed is that there was this wonderful fair
535
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trade that women, I kind of like their
536
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peak were going in on a guy that
537
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was just at the beginning. So she's like,
538
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okay, I'm going to go on on him
539
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because I've evaluated him as having potential and
540
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I'm going to commit to him, right? Her
541
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benefit, his benefit is he gets pretty much
542
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a guaranteed thing right now. I know where
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this stands and now I got to live
544
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up to it. But the trade is that
545
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if he's successful, if she was right about
546
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his potential, she gets the benefit if he's
547
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locked to her for the future. The Keanu
548
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Reeves move of like not touching other coworkers
549
00:20:02.100 --> 00:20:03.600
and keeping very much to himself. If you
550
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remember, what was the other like vice president
551
00:20:05.840 --> 00:20:07.800
with Trump? I can't remember right now. Pence.
552
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Pence. Thank you. Pence is like, I don't
553
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have dinner without my wife there with a
554
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great advice. Great advice. Great advice. Great advice.
555
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Not only age of like me too and
556
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all this crap, but for the love of
557
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God, you guys are Bitcoiners. You're going to
558
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be the most successful person in your circle.
559
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And if they're not going to be able
560
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to hack your keys, that's a lot. point
561
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in time they might send in one of
562
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these like ukrainian spies these little sex operators
563
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to come in there and extract it from
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you the old -fashioned way so some guys
565
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be given this guy's been giving this one
566
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delilah he's got a million terms here sex
567
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spies sex operators they got to have them
568
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all ready to go i've spent a lot
569
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of time with professor colin talking about mk
570
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ultra and there's some crazy shit going on
571
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out there but just public service announcement guys
572
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find a good one lock it down and
573
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don't fuck yourself over by going out there
574
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and doing something god damn stupid like this
575
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joey though getting into the other part There
576
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were some other information. You can also give
577
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me your comments on that, but some other
578
00:20:54.500 --> 00:20:56.200
information with regards to what he may have
579
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done that may not be so good for
580
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Jensen here. Let's start with this, okay? If
581
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you're Jensen, if you're going to stray, like,
582
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this girl's not really that much of a
583
00:21:05.600 --> 00:21:07.160
bullet, you know? Like, you could have probably
584
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done better. I realize there's obviously some like
585
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other relationship stuff that's important, which we should
586
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talk about. So this, this lady is, I
587
00:21:14.300 --> 00:21:15.480
sent you a tweet, Nate, in the backchap.
588
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Yeah, pull it up. This lady's been around
589
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in Vida for a long time. And she
590
00:21:20.080 --> 00:21:22.240
has like some ties to Ali Bolleyball. and
591
00:21:22.240 --> 00:21:24.900
some ties to another
company called Megaspeed. And
592
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basically the thinking is that these guys were
593
00:21:27.860 --> 00:21:32.380
all sort of getting Nvidia secrets through this
594
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girl and her relationship with Jensen. And the
595
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thing I can't figure out as far as
596
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like this story about the cheating, like I
597
00:21:39.700 --> 00:21:42.320
would never pose for pictures the way that
598
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this guy is posing for pictures with her
599
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with another woman who wasn't my wife. Like
600
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this is this is the most tame one,
601
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but there are others in the photo dump
602
00:21:49.340 --> 00:21:51.020
here. If you just scroll over a bit,
603
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where it's like, like, it's like, like, this
604
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is, this is the most tame one. like,
605
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I would, you would never catch me, like,
606
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in a VIP booth with some chick with
607
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my arm around her, or like her holding
608
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my bicep or something. Like, it's just not,
609
00:22:01.020 --> 00:22:02.740
it's not going to happen at this point
610
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in my life. And Jensen probably knows that
611
00:22:04.480 --> 00:22:06.040
too, which makes me think that this is
612
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more of an open secret as far as
613
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a relationship than anything else. But the hook,
614
00:22:10.160 --> 00:22:13.320
the hook here is not the girl, okay?
615
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It's my opinion that NVIDIA is pushing the
616
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relationship and the damage to his quote unquote
617
00:22:17.980 --> 00:22:20.060
marriage to the front here, because the problem
618
00:22:20.060 --> 00:22:22.340
is actually in the. background and the problem
619
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is that in my opinion, Nvidia and Jensen
620
00:22:27.660 --> 00:22:30.140
don't know what the future of AI buildout
621
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in the US is going to be anymore.
622
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And so over the last few years, he
623
00:22:34.380 --> 00:22:38.940
sold through this, through this relationship, about 600
624
00:22:38.940 --> 00:22:43.240
,000 chips to Beijing and they're sitting in
625
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Hong Kong right now. This is according to
626
00:22:45.460 --> 00:22:48.180
the New York Times. So to me, what
627
00:22:48.180 --> 00:22:49.700
it looks like is this guy wants an
628
00:22:49.700 --> 00:22:51.560
option to go over to that side of
629
00:22:51.560 --> 00:22:53.800
the pond if he needs it. And he's
630
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not talking about it at all. In their
631
00:22:54.860 --> 00:22:57.220
latest quarter, you know, they booked like 100
632
00:22:57.220 --> 00:22:59.560
billion or 110 billion in revs, zero from
633
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China, nothing from China data centers. So he's
634
00:23:02.740 --> 00:23:04.980
not doing it yet, but the fact that
635
00:23:04.980 --> 00:23:07.340
matter is they're already there. And you don't
636
00:23:07.340 --> 00:23:09.380
want to have to export, much like we
637
00:23:09.380 --> 00:23:10.220
talk about, you don't want to have to
638
00:23:10.220 --> 00:23:11.960
flee your country when the government, like by
639
00:23:11.960 --> 00:23:13.300
the time the government wants you to stay
640
00:23:13.300 --> 00:23:14.840
or government falls, it'll be a lot harder
641
00:23:14.840 --> 00:23:16.400
to go. You want to go before that.
642
00:23:16.400 --> 00:23:17.720
It's hard for me to imagine that this
643
00:23:17.720 --> 00:23:18.880
guy's not thinking at least a little bit
644
00:23:18.880 --> 00:23:20.960
the same way. I don't, I'm looking at
645
00:23:20.960 --> 00:23:22.400
the story and I'm looking at the pictures
646
00:23:22.400 --> 00:23:24.240
and, you know, there's a couple guys on
647
00:23:24.240 --> 00:23:25.880
Twitter. I don't have the tweets handy about
648
00:23:25.880 --> 00:23:27.320
just reading sort of this morning and last
649
00:23:27.320 --> 00:23:29.460
night. People have been saying this girl was
650
00:23:29.460 --> 00:23:32.040
a big problem for Jensen for a year,
651
00:23:32.040 --> 00:23:33.720
more than a year in some cases. Well,
652
00:23:33.720 --> 00:23:35.120
Joey, I got to jump in there because
653
00:23:35.120 --> 00:23:36.040
I want to actually get your take on
654
00:23:36.040 --> 00:23:37.480
this as well, too. Because I think the
655
00:23:37.480 --> 00:23:39.340
thing that we're underestimating, because look, I'm a
656
00:23:39.340 --> 00:23:40.660
good looking dude. You're a good looking dude.
657
00:23:40.660 --> 00:23:42.280
Walker's a good looking dude. And Brandon is
658
00:23:42.280 --> 00:23:43.740
a very good looking dude. We're the most
659
00:23:43.740 --> 00:23:45.640
handsome podcast in the Bitcoin space by far,
660
00:23:45.640 --> 00:23:47.620
not even close. Many people are saying this.
661
00:23:47.620 --> 00:23:49.260
Many people are saying. This is just the
662
00:23:49.260 --> 00:23:51.320
comments that we gave, the fan mail. He
663
00:23:51.320 --> 00:23:53.460
was having an affair with one of his,
664
00:23:53.460 --> 00:23:55.300
like, other, like, one of the staff in
665
00:23:55.300 --> 00:23:57.220
the company and stuff. You see that other
666
00:23:57.220 --> 00:23:59.800
girl? Speaking of not bullets, like, right? The
667
00:23:59.800 --> 00:24:02.100
other girl looks like, they, them, Shapiro. And
668
00:24:02.100 --> 00:24:04.440
it's like, I realize that he looked line
669
00:24:04.440 --> 00:24:06.640
is no gem, but come on, man, come
670
00:24:06.640 --> 00:24:08.520
on. Like, is it that bad out there?
671
00:24:08.520 --> 00:24:11.700
Don't underestimate what I say. It's like your,
672
00:24:11.700 --> 00:24:15.020
your mid -curve males that were maybe not
673
00:24:15.020 --> 00:24:16.700
so great in their youth that have found
674
00:24:16.700 --> 00:24:18.780
some sort of success in adulthood. Love that
675
00:24:18.780 --> 00:24:21.820
take. Don't underestimate the stupid shit that they
676
00:24:21.820 --> 00:24:23.280
will do because they felt like they missed
677
00:24:23.280 --> 00:24:24.660
out on it when they were younger. You
678
00:24:24.660 --> 00:24:26.740
never been in the crucible. You don't know
679
00:24:26.740 --> 00:24:28.160
what it's like. If you haven't been in
680
00:24:28.160 --> 00:24:29.400
the crucible by the time you turn 40
681
00:24:29.400 --> 00:24:30.960
or something, if you don't know, you're going
682
00:24:30.960 --> 00:24:31.880
to find out the hard way. I think
683
00:24:31.880 --> 00:24:34.200
you're probably right about that. I absolutely things
684
00:24:34.200 --> 00:24:36.320
up, Brandon. Yeah, I mean, again, I want
685
00:24:36.320 --> 00:24:39.660
to tangentially related, but the BBB, this is
686
00:24:39.660 --> 00:24:41.240
my, again, I've talked about this before about
687
00:24:41.240 --> 00:24:43.620
Jessica's Italian uncle. This is how business works
688
00:24:43.620 --> 00:24:47.060
and politics, you know, bullshit, bribery, blackmail. You
689
00:24:47.060 --> 00:24:48.480
know, so you got to remember BBB. This
690
00:24:48.480 --> 00:24:50.980
is this is how life works. And again,
691
00:24:50.980 --> 00:24:52.380
that's a good point by you guys. I
692
00:24:52.380 --> 00:24:53.920
forget who just said that, but, you know,
693
00:24:53.920 --> 00:24:57.260
could Jensen, you know, want to be, you
694
00:24:57.260 --> 00:24:59.920
know, diversifying a little bit? And, you know,
695
00:24:59.920 --> 00:25:01.380
just like, oh, yep, you caught me, you
696
00:25:01.380 --> 00:25:03.280
know, whatever. And that's the way, again, you
697
00:25:03.280 --> 00:25:04.460
got to focus on what you can control
698
00:25:04.460 --> 00:25:05.540
at the end of the day, because this
699
00:25:05.540 --> 00:25:07.700
is, a lot of it is theater. And
700
00:25:07.700 --> 00:25:09.540
it's the K -Faib, right? You're coming back
701
00:25:09.540 --> 00:25:10.680
to K -Faid boys and girls, you know,
702
00:25:10.680 --> 00:25:12.040
here it is. And so it could be
703
00:25:12.040 --> 00:25:15.300
that, too. My question to the chat and
704
00:25:15.300 --> 00:25:16.720
to you guys here in the panel, too,
705
00:25:16.720 --> 00:25:18.720
is what does, you know, you always think
706
00:25:18.720 --> 00:25:22.200
of like does Bitcoin, you know, fix this
707
00:25:22.200 --> 00:25:24.600
at some point where people, the espionage, the
708
00:25:24.600 --> 00:25:26.420
spying and all this, does it really, because
709
00:25:26.420 --> 00:25:27.940
again, a lot of Bitcoiners we say, well,
710
00:25:27.940 --> 00:25:29.440
Bitcoin will fix all these things because as
711
00:25:29.440 --> 00:25:30.900
everyone grows wealthier, like, yours not going to
712
00:25:30.900 --> 00:25:32.000
be a need to do this. Like, you
713
00:25:32.000 --> 00:25:33.700
won't need to, but at the same time,
714
00:25:33.700 --> 00:25:34.820
you can just turn around and say, well,
715
00:25:34.820 --> 00:25:36.900
Bitcoin becomes infinitely more valuable. People are going
716
00:25:36.900 --> 00:25:38.640
to be doing it even more, right? So
717
00:25:38.640 --> 00:25:39.740
you could have people fighting for more. We
718
00:25:39.740 --> 00:25:41.080
talk about the wrench attacks here in France
719
00:25:41.080 --> 00:25:42.840
and stuff like that. But, you know, what
720
00:25:42.840 --> 00:25:44.560
are your guys quick thoughts on, or, you
721
00:25:44.560 --> 00:25:45.680
know, one or two of you, just like
722
00:25:45.680 --> 00:25:48.720
the inflection point where things do subside. When
723
00:25:48.720 --> 00:25:50.100
we do cross that bridge, is there a
724
00:25:50.100 --> 00:25:52.800
point an inflection point where people, the tension
725
00:25:52.800 --> 00:25:56.200
and noise and stress, just across society now
726
00:25:56.200 --> 00:25:58.500
subsides because Bitcoin has taken over to that
727
00:25:58.500 --> 00:26:00.300
point. That's something I've thought about over time
728
00:26:00.300 --> 00:26:01.380
a bit. I don't have a great answer
729
00:26:01.380 --> 00:26:03.020
for it. I don't know when that happens,
730
00:26:03.020 --> 00:26:04.880
but maybe you guys have a good thought
731
00:26:04.880 --> 00:26:06.620
on it. Well, I'll even just jump into.
732
00:26:06.620 --> 00:26:07.720
The idea of like, when does Bitcoin kind
733
00:26:07.720 --> 00:26:09.380
of fix some of this crap, because they
734
00:26:09.380 --> 00:26:10.740
ultimately believe that it does, which is a
735
00:26:10.740 --> 00:26:12.180
long conversation, but we'll get into it later.
736
00:26:12.180 --> 00:26:13.460
But I think part of it goes back
737
00:26:13.460 --> 00:26:14.440
through. There's so many things that have been
738
00:26:14.440 --> 00:26:17.320
corrupted, including relationships, including marriage, including raising children.
739
00:26:17.320 --> 00:26:18.960
I think Bitcoin helps with all of those
740
00:26:18.960 --> 00:26:20.920
things. Like, I hate that we have to
741
00:26:20.920 --> 00:26:22.660
go back and learn some of the lessons
742
00:26:22.660 --> 00:26:24.160
of, like, why we did things way to
743
00:26:24.160 --> 00:26:25.540
do, why there was value in some traditional
744
00:26:25.540 --> 00:26:27.160
ways. But I think that it will get
745
00:26:27.160 --> 00:26:30.040
there. But we're not in the next decade.
746
00:26:30.040 --> 00:26:31.360
It's going to be a couple generations. It's
747
00:26:31.360 --> 00:26:33.100
probably going to be our kids having healthier
748
00:26:33.100 --> 00:26:35.140
relationships and healthier marriages down the road where
749
00:26:35.140 --> 00:26:36.380
you start to see this crap fall to
750
00:26:36.380 --> 00:26:38.160
the wayside. And people get, like hung to
751
00:26:38.160 --> 00:26:39.160
dry when they kind of go out of
752
00:26:39.160 --> 00:26:40.080
line. But I don't know, Walker, are any
753
00:26:40.080 --> 00:26:42.140
thoughts kind of on Bitcoin? Getting away from
754
00:26:42.140 --> 00:26:44.560
the CEOs having sex with Chinese spies problem.
755
00:26:44.560 --> 00:26:46.940
Yeah, no, Bitcoin doesn't fix this, man. Bitcoin
756
00:26:46.940 --> 00:26:48.920
fixes a lot of things. Bitcoin fixes a
757
00:26:48.920 --> 00:26:50.460
lot of things that does not fix you.
758
00:26:50.460 --> 00:26:52.160
It does not make you better. Only you
759
00:26:52.160 --> 00:26:53.960
can do that. And like that goes for
760
00:26:53.960 --> 00:26:55.580
everyone out there. So Bitcoin does not fix
761
00:26:55.580 --> 00:26:57.520
human nature. I think a lot of people
762
00:26:57.520 --> 00:26:58.920
believe that it's some sort of a silver
763
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bullet. It just will automatically make everything better.
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It doesn't. I think that makes you better
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is wanting to be better, striving to be
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better. That's what makes you better. Now, as
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a result of going down the Bitcoin rabbit
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hole, certain people may find that they've made
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changes to their lives that have been hugely
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beneficial. That's not Bitcoin making you better, though.
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That's you. realizing that there's more out there
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that you do not know and do not
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understand and that you need to, that you
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need to engage in that act of self
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-improvement. That is how Bitcoin kind of indirectly
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can make you better. But I've said it,
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I've said it before. I'll say it again,
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you know, Bitcoin fixes a lot of things.
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It does not fix you. No, there it.
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Love those many rants. Joey, do you want
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to get your take and I also just
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want to share this as well, too, just
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to round that off because we had, you
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showed me this before the show in terms
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of other things that might be going on
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with Jensen. Breaking the U .S. Commerce Department
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was approving sales. of Navidia chips to companies
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in China, which either did not exist, were
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on the sanctions list and or had ties
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to the China military. So just want to
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make sure we rounded that out and then
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Joey, your thoughts. Every company in China has
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ties to the Chinese military. That's the default.
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Yeah, they do. I think that's kind of
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a given. So forget that data point. That's
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every company. The interesting thing is that mega
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speed, so the Commerce Department keeps a blacklist,
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basically. So companies that, and maybe it's a
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white list, a better example, because there's probably
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way more companies on the blacklist and the
801
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other way around. the idea that these guys
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are able to discern who in China doesn't
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have government ties is almost laughable. And there's
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a comment, the top comment under there is
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a great reply. Like, does the government do
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anything right when the chips are down, really?
807
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You know, no pun intended here. But it's
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another example of just people trying to finesse
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ways to maximize to maximize profit at the
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cost of, in this case, safety and maybe
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also trade secrets. And the interesting thing is
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that there's, it's not. not in that tweet,
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but I did see it somewhere else. I
814
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can't remember where now, that agencies other than
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commerce were pushing to whitelist Megaspeed, which is
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the woman's company. Her affiliation is with Megaspeed.
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So the question becomes, like, who knew about
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this? If you, if you look at some
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of the news reporting, you got Trump being
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briefed a year ago, Rubio memos circulating about
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eight or nine months ago, a couple of
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three letters talking to the White House and
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saying, you got to keep an eye on
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this and this guy specifically talking about Chenson.
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I don't know what to make of this.
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And, again, man, it feels to me like
827
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this is a smokescreen for something else. Because
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all these people involved are too smart. Jensen's
829
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too smart. The White House has guys who
830
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are way ahead of the curve. It's not
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the Biden administration, okay? Corinne Jean -Pierre is
832
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not the press secretary anymore. Dana White's coming.
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Oh, yeah, we'll talk about that one. But
834
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anyway, the point is that, like, there's too
835
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much happening here for me to think that
836
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it's just this girl, again, like, you know,
837
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shopping at Vicki's Secret. and coaxing something out
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of Jensen Long. I don't believe that that's
839
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the case. There's too many other people involved
840
00:29:50.480 --> 00:29:54.640
here for too long. Meanwhile, Nvidia, you know,
841
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it's one thing to be a top company.
842
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It's nothing entirely. I think the number I
843
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saw was that every S &P, like every
844
00:30:00.400 --> 00:30:02.580
S &P index fund dollar has somewhere between
845
00:30:02.580 --> 00:30:04.880
seven and nine cents from Vindia in it.
846
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So you're talking about like enormous, you're talking
847
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retirement, teachers pensions, like, you name it, right?
848
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That's to say nothing of, you know, that
849
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this is, by the way, This is to
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say nothing of the U .S. government deciding
851
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to take a huge stake in Intel about
852
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six months ago. Did they know this was
853
00:30:24.320 --> 00:30:27.140
coming? Like, AMD is way up today. I
854
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didn't look at Intel's share price, but what
855
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is that, what is that stock doing now?
856
00:30:30.440 --> 00:30:31.920
Like, how does that, is this a, is
857
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this another intertwined, like, oh, we can't trust
858
00:30:35.240 --> 00:30:37.180
Nvidia anymore. We got to do American stuff.
859
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We got to build American. Like, Intel's the,
860
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I don't know, but fuck, you can't rule
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it out, which is, I think, the whole
862
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point. Show me. would like to see, I
863
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bet we're going to find out in their
864
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financial disclosures, but how many U .S. lawmakers
865
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--> 00:30:52.120
out of nowhere against our shorted, shorted in
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the last few weeks? Because I guarantee the
867
00:30:57.020 --> 00:30:59.680
number is not zero. I totally, totally agree.
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Anyone who would, up until now, anyone who
869
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would have shorted in video, you would be
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like, yeah, okay, like, you fucking idiot, like,
871
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no, you know, terrible trade. So if you
872
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see that, if you see that happen, again,
873
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and not that anyone cares, because, The one
874
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thing that has bipartisan agreement is that congressional
875
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insiders should be able to insider trade as
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much as they want. But that's going to
877
00:31:21.100 --> 00:31:22.660
be a very interesting data point. It's going
878
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to let you know exactly who knew that
879
00:31:23.920 --> 00:31:25.720
this was coming. But again, not that anyone
880
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cares or we'll do anything because the state
881
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is just a bloated fucking kleptocratic beast made
882
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up of fucking psychopaths. But apparently we just
883
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have to bend over and take it, but
884
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not on this goddamn podcast. How dare you?
885
00:31:38.280 --> 00:31:39.400
Not here. Not here. You go after Paul
886
00:31:39.400 --> 00:31:42.200
Pelosi's investing at you. Get out of time.
887
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How dare you. Paul. He's great. Well, that's
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the most perfect place that's been caught with
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our pants down, wielding a hammer in the
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middle of the night. I mean, come on.
891
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I got a shed to build. It was
892
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very windy up here. You saw Ben's post.
893
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I think he had some on maybe Twitter.
894
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It was on task grab. I thought this
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guy on task rabbit. All right. Okay. That's
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bit more about the AI space and some
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short selling that's been going on. And we're
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I was able to find some information, probably
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not the latest filing, so I'll be curious
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for Walker's point later, but no relationship. Pete
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Sessions sold between 15 and 50 ,000. thousand
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on October 2nd and daniel muser uh only
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up to about 15 000 so a little
976
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bit of selling going in but nothing that
977
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would cause a lorne for me anyways continuing
978
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here to see short positions in those disclosures
979
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or no so i couldn't find any but
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i'm not clear if it's because it's not
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disclosed um or if it's just not available
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right now that i could pull up in
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between the the sponsor break there but continuing
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i'm curious about right the options trading unlimited
985
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upside there yeah well it might be in
986
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the clear on that one but Things are
987
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not looking so good for the AI space.
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As we have just in, Taiwan imposes sweeping
989
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short selling restrictions starting Monday after its stock
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markets suffered the worst weekly decline since 2001.
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Not really great for T .M .C. TSM.
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In terms of where we have the bulk
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of the bulk of the chips being manufactured
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for the AI play. Continuing on that, well,
995
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we have Asia's bailout brigade. Taiwan curb shorts,
996
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ready's 15 billion fund in Seoul wave margin
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calls to stop the AI route. So again,
998
00:35:40.140 --> 00:35:41.360
things are looking a little bit worse there,
999
00:35:41.360 --> 00:35:42.620
again, a little bit bubbly, but also on
1000
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top of that, while they threw in there,
1001
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we had the Binance hack from not that
1002
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long ago, and it turns out that the
1003
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Binance CFO apparently has resigned. So another interesting
1004
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kind of, apparently I was finding that there
1005
00:35:52.300 --> 00:35:53.940
was some information they had planned to resign
1006
00:35:53.940 --> 00:35:55.420
for a while, but again, a little suspicious
1007
00:35:55.420 --> 00:35:59.320
exit. So Taiwan, stopping the shorts, Binance CFO.
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Brandon, what are your thoughts? I love this
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first comment. Remember that time, Elon and Donald
1010
00:36:02.800 --> 00:36:06.300
audited Fort Knox? That was, that actually happened,
1011
00:36:06.300 --> 00:36:08.480
though. We did audit for Knox because, Rand
1012
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Paul went and told us that we're good
1013
00:36:10.160 --> 00:36:12.600
guys, trust me, bro. So we're good there.
1014
00:36:12.600 --> 00:36:15.020
Totally fine. It's there. Nothing to see. Yeah,
1015
00:36:15.020 --> 00:36:17.820
no, it's, it's, to me, the thing that
1016
00:36:17.820 --> 00:36:20.840
the biggest worry to me is, like, how
1017
00:36:20.840 --> 00:36:22.080
many, you know, we've come on here now
1018
00:36:22.080 -->
00:36:23.640
for, what, six, seven, eight months or whatever,
1019
00:36:23.640 --> 00:36:27.100
doing this show, and - Oh, oh, surprise.
1020
00:36:27.100 --> 00:36:30.180
Sorry, guys, very late. Look at this. Well,
1021
00:36:30.180 --> 00:36:31.300
I'll go really quick, and we can get
1022
00:36:31.300 --> 00:36:34.020
Joe's opinion on this. Because my biggest fear
1023
00:36:34.020 --> 00:36:36.880
with all this is the, and we just
1024
00:36:36.880 --> 00:36:37.940
talked about in the last, in the first,
1025
00:36:37.940 --> 00:36:39.940
actually, which was the Howard Dean, and then
1026
00:36:39.940 --> 00:36:41.680
10 years later, 12 years later, Donald Trump,
1027
00:36:41.680 --> 00:36:44.900
and how quick society changed. And so you
1028
00:36:44.900 --> 00:36:47.140
have this world meaning where I'm going with
1029
00:36:47.140 --> 00:36:49.260
this, is that people are immune to a
1030
00:36:49.260 --> 00:36:51.980
lot of this, like these things happening, like
1031
00:36:51.980 --> 00:36:54.160
short -circuiting things. And it feels like smoke
1032
00:36:54.160 --> 00:36:55.600
screen, like when you guys said earlier, like
1033
00:36:55.600 --> 00:36:57.820
what's not being seen, what people aren't paying
1034
00:36:57.820 --> 00:36:59.720
attention to is always the thing that Spidey
1035
00:36:59.720 --> 00:37:00.760
Sense goes up. And it's like, okay, what
1036
00:37:00.760 --> 00:37:02.260
are they trying to get us not to
1037
00:37:02.260 --> 00:37:04.240
pay attention to? Because you have all these
1038
00:37:04.240 --> 00:37:06.680
things, whether it's a politician saying something crazy,
1039
00:37:06.680 --> 00:37:07.940
how many times you're going to see some
1040
00:37:07.940 --> 00:37:10.360
politician insider trading or how many times we're
1041
00:37:10.360 --> 00:37:12.180
going to see a breaker, a circuit breaker
1042
00:37:12.180 --> 00:37:14.560
going off in a trading market or whatever.
1043
00:37:14.560 --> 00:37:15.300
And it used to be like a big
1044
00:37:15.300 --> 00:37:16.820
deal. It was like, it happened once. It
1045
00:37:16.820 --> 00:37:18.100
was twice, but they're like, well, they're up
1046
00:37:18.100 --> 00:37:19.840
in arms. But now it's like, we're just
1047
00:37:19.840 --> 00:37:21.060
getting to the point where like, I do
1048
00:37:21.060 --> 00:37:23.540
it myself. I'm like, who gives an ass?
1049
00:37:23.540 --> 00:37:25.520
Like, who, it's like, whatever, you know, like,
1050
00:37:25.520 --> 00:37:27.520
one is, and it's like at some point,
1051
00:37:27.520 --> 00:37:29.900
the Robert Kiyosaki's, the hairy dense, the gym
1052
00:37:29.900 --> 00:37:31.820
records, like these guys have been saying the
1053
00:37:31.820 --> 00:37:34.000
roof, the sky is falling for 20 years,
1054
00:37:34.000 --> 00:37:35.900
they're going to be right. At some point,
1055
00:37:35.900 --> 00:37:38.360
the whole thing just comes down. And we're
1056
00:37:38.360 --> 00:37:40.700
looking at Mad Max, question mark. I don't
1057
00:37:40.700 --> 00:37:42.480
know. But to me, the scary part is
1058
00:37:42.480 --> 00:37:45.560
just the desensitization of breaking people's will. And
1059
00:37:45.560 --> 00:37:46.940
I think this goes back into the global
1060
00:37:46.940 --> 00:37:48.840
culture of what the zeitgeist of what we've
1061
00:37:48.840 --> 00:37:49.780
been talking about in this show, what this
1062
00:37:49.780 --> 00:37:52.280
show is about, which is the breaking of
1063
00:37:52.280 --> 00:37:54.680
the Westerners mind, the breaking of the Western
1064
00:37:54.680 --> 00:37:56.600
man's back. And just like, he doesn't care
1065
00:37:56.600 --> 00:37:58.840
anymore. He's so blackpilled and dumbered. He doesn't
1066
00:37:58.840 --> 00:38:00.960
care. He's heard endless, you know, terrible things
1067
00:38:00.960 --> 00:38:02.860
going on. He can't afford anything. So he
1068
00:38:02.860 --> 00:38:04.400
just doesn't care. He's like, you know what?
1069
00:38:04.400 --> 00:38:05.840
I don't care. The NFL is on. I've
1070
00:38:05.840 --> 00:38:08.920
got my 17 -Elegged parlay. Good to go.
1071
00:38:08.920 --> 00:38:11.960
Let it rip, boys. Don't care. I absolutely
1072
00:38:11.960 --> 00:38:13.400
love it. Okay, I got to get Mr.
1073
00:38:13.400 --> 00:38:15.500
Consorti's take on all this. Before that, though,
1074
00:38:15.500 --> 00:38:17.080
let me go ahead and just pull up
1075
00:38:17.080 --> 00:38:19.360
this wonderful. Let me find it here. There
1076
00:38:19.360 --> 00:38:21.880
we go. This beautiful clip that he just
1077
00:38:21.880 --> 00:38:23.700
sent me as well to. And if nothing
1078
00:38:23.700 --> 00:38:25.420
else, if nothing else, at least I can
1079
00:38:25.420 --> 00:38:27.480
say for certain that Trump's probably got a
1080
00:38:27.480 --> 00:38:28.720
back chat, just like we got a back
1081
00:38:28.720 --> 00:38:30.620
chat with Jensen. He's one of the boys
1082
00:38:30.620 --> 00:38:32.320
and he's covering for his guys. Let's go
1083
00:38:32.320 --> 00:38:34.680
ahead and have it. Mr. President. I'm sticking
1084
00:38:34.680 --> 00:38:36.840
with Jensen when you went to China earlier
1085
00:38:36.840 --> 00:38:38.780
this year in May, Did you know about
1086
00:38:38.780 --> 00:38:42.160
these alleged ties with a tiny spy then?
1087
00:38:42.160 --> 00:38:44.240
No, I didn't hear about it then. But
1088
00:38:44.240 --> 00:38:47.000
a lot of people have heard about it,
1089
00:38:47.000 --> 00:38:49.300
and Jensen totally denies that. He had, I
1090
00:38:49.300 --> 00:38:50.740
asked him today, because I did speak to
1091
00:38:50.740 --> 00:38:52.240
him today, just to see if he's feeling
1092
00:38:52.240 --> 00:38:54.220
all right, how you doing. And I asked
1093
00:38:54.220 --> 00:38:57.360
him about that. And he said he had
1094
00:38:57.360 --> 00:39:00.900
absolutely no idea that the person in question
1095
00:39:00.900 --> 00:39:03.740
was a spy. I asked him that question.
1096
00:39:03.740 --> 00:39:04.960
Did you have any idea that she was
1097
00:39:04.960 --> 00:39:06.840
a spy? He said, I had no idea
1098
00:39:06.840 --> 00:39:08.360
that she was a spy. And I really
1099
00:39:08.360 --> 00:39:11.180
believe him. I thought she was just a
1100
00:39:11.180 --> 00:39:14.540
hooker. That's great. The one thing I'll say
1101
00:39:14.540 --> 00:39:16.040
really quick for, you know, we get to
1102
00:39:16.040 --> 00:39:18.020
Joe jump in here, is that, man, is
1103
00:39:18.020 --> 00:39:19.820
it refreshing, though, to just see the guy
1104
00:39:19.820 --> 00:39:21.540
sit up there and just take questions. Again,
1105
00:39:21.540 --> 00:39:22.840
we go back to, like him just for
1106
00:39:22.840 --> 00:39:24.800
hours and said there, a Rubio. It's like,
1107
00:39:24.800 --> 00:39:25.860
where the hell? I mean, we haven't seen
1108
00:39:25.860 --> 00:39:27.580
this much, you know, in 20 plus years
1109
00:39:27.580 --> 00:39:29.740
combined. So anyway, it's good to see people
1110
00:39:29.740 --> 00:39:31.760
because you want to grill people. And it's
1111
00:39:31.760 --> 00:39:34.380
great. So anyway, small note. I love it.
1112
00:39:34.380 --> 00:39:38.040
Consorti. Yeah, so I think it's refreshing. seeing
1113
00:39:38.040 --> 00:39:40.600
Trump or any president take questions for that
1114
00:39:40.600 --> 00:39:42.380
matter. You know, I think the job of
1115
00:39:42.380 --> 00:39:44.280
the press secretary is just supposed to be
1116
00:39:44.280 --> 00:39:46.360
like a, throw some catty woman up there
1117
00:39:46.360 --> 00:39:48.160
to yell at the press and like get
1118
00:39:48.160 --> 00:39:50.700
good gotcha moments for Facebook and then leave.
1119
00:39:50.700 --> 00:39:52.300
So it's refreshing to have the president himself
1120
00:39:52.300 --> 00:39:53.520
up there. I think that should be the
1121
00:39:53.520 --> 00:39:55.980
case going forward when he has the time.
1122
00:39:55.980 --> 00:39:59.760
As far as just completely crazy and same
1123
00:39:59.760 --> 00:40:03.700
series of events, obviously, nobody's condoning infidelity. It's
1124
00:40:03.700 --> 00:40:07.660
absolutely despicable. You know, it is just a.
1125
00:40:07.660 --> 00:40:11.560
complete affront to the wonderful union that is
1126
00:40:11.560 --> 00:40:16.060
marriage. But honest to goodness, this is incredible,
1127
00:40:16.060 --> 00:40:18.980
right? The fact that if anybody was selling
1128
00:40:18.980 --> 00:40:20.920
secrets to another country knowingly, I figured it
1129
00:40:20.920 --> 00:40:24.320
would have been Dario. I think, you know,
1130
00:40:24.320 --> 00:40:26.280
personally. Or Altman and his husband. Or Alman
1131
00:40:26.280 --> 00:40:29.140
and his husband, you know. Giuse and Bing
1132
00:40:29.140 --> 00:40:30.720
may have offered him like 500 of the
1133
00:40:30.720 --> 00:40:32.760
best gay guys from China or whatever or
1134
00:40:32.760 --> 00:40:34.440
to have at him or something. But, you
1135
00:40:34.440 --> 00:40:35.400
know, my thinking is that it would have
1136
00:40:35.400 --> 00:40:36.680
been either of those, like one of the
1137
00:40:36.680 --> 00:40:38.600
decelerationists were like, yeah, we should put a
1138
00:40:38.600 --> 00:40:41.120
pause on AI, guys. Come regulate me, please.
1139
00:40:41.120 --> 00:40:42.760
I didn't think it would be Jensen. So,
1140
00:40:42.760 --> 00:40:44.680
you know, I tend to think that he
1141
00:40:44.680 --> 00:40:47.880
didn't know, but who knows, right? Ultimately, we
1142
00:40:47.880 --> 00:40:49.800
have no idea. We can only speculate. But
1143
00:40:49.800 --> 00:40:52.440
wow, the plot thickens. And Anthropics IPO is
1144
00:40:52.440 --> 00:40:53.880
next week as well. It's expected to start
1145
00:40:53.880 --> 00:40:55.680
trading next Thursday or five. But they're going
1146
00:40:55.680 --> 00:40:59.200
next Thursday. Wow, really. Crazy. Yeah. So it's
1147
00:40:59.200 --> 00:41:01.960
just been a completely wild, like there are
1148
00:41:01.960 --> 00:41:04.300
long stretches of time where nothing happens, but
1149
00:41:04.300 --> 00:41:05.980
we've got the midterms, we've got this thing
1150
00:41:05.980 --> 00:41:08.080
with Jensen, we've got, you know, Bitcoin, crashing
1151
00:41:08.080 --> 00:41:09.360
on the news of that. We've got Trump
1152
00:41:09.360 --> 00:41:10.680
saying, we're going to give amnesty to the
1153
00:41:10.680 --> 00:41:12.100
illegal immigrants. And now he's going on saying
1154
00:41:12.100 --> 00:41:13.880
we have no amnesty. Dana White was just
1155
00:41:13.880 --> 00:41:17.040
at the press briefing as well, taking questions.
1156
00:41:17.040 --> 00:41:18.820
It's ridiculous. It's crazy. You got to think
1157
00:41:18.820 --> 00:41:21.120
he was? Yeah, I feel like we got
1158
00:41:21.120 --> 00:41:23.500
to joke. It's a joke, but yeah. Ah,
1159
00:41:23.500 --> 00:41:25.040
is it though? It was fucking beautiful. I'll
1160
00:41:25.040 --> 00:41:26.580
pull it up because, yeah, you just threw
1161
00:41:26.580 --> 00:41:27.580
it to me in the chat and it
1162
00:41:27.580 --> 00:41:29.580
was wonderful here. So let's go ahead and
1163
00:41:29.580 --> 00:41:30.940
pull up this window. Just give me a
1164
00:41:30.940 --> 00:41:35.860
moment. There we go. Boom. Okay. So apparently
1165
00:41:35.860 --> 00:41:40.800
we have Dana White. At the podium, Joe,
1166
00:41:40.800 --> 00:41:41.780
give me a little context. What was this
1167
00:41:41.780 --> 00:41:42.780
clip about? Or I'll be to go ahead
1168
00:41:42.780 --> 00:41:44.440
and play it here quick for us. Yeah,
1169
00:41:44.440 --> 00:41:47.300
so basically, the reporter asks him, like, hey,
1170
00:41:47.300 --> 00:41:48.960
now that Stephen Miller's chief of staff, like,
1171
00:41:48.960 --> 00:41:51.240
have you talked to him about your decision
1172
00:41:51.240 --> 00:41:52.320
on what you want to do as far
1173
00:41:52.320 --> 00:41:54.660
as
immigration policy is concerned? Because that's an
1174
00:41:54.660 --> 00:41:56.840
extremely leading question. Obviously, we've all seen the
1175
00:41:56.840 --> 00:41:59.920
60 minutes piece, and Trump says, no amnesty,
1176
00:41:59.920 --> 00:42:02.080
no amnesty. So, I mean, thankfully, we got
1177
00:42:02.080 --> 00:42:03.520
Stephen Miller at a pretty good time, so
1178
00:42:03.520 --> 00:42:05.120
it seems. And it doesn't seem like we're
1179
00:42:05.120 --> 00:42:07.220
going to get sort of Reagan -esque amnesty,
1180
00:42:07.220 --> 00:42:09.760
which, of course, turned notoriously turned California blue
1181
00:42:09.760 --> 00:42:11.740
forever back in the 80s. A lot of
1182
00:42:11.740 --> 00:42:13.300
people are speculating that would happen to Texas,
1183
00:42:13.300 --> 00:42:14.580
but here's Trump saying that he won't do
1184
00:42:14.580 --> 00:42:17.120
it. Oh, that's fantastic to see. And let
1185
00:42:17.120 --> 00:42:20.200
me go and find it. Joe, or Joey,
1186
00:42:20.200 --> 00:42:21.900
either one of you, start laying the foundation.
1187
00:42:21.900 --> 00:42:23.540
What happened with Dana White will I go
1188
00:42:23.540 --> 00:42:24.920
and grab the post I had for later?
1189
00:42:24.920 --> 00:42:26.740
Well, I mean, the people freaked out. I
1190
00:42:26.740 --> 00:42:28.060
think it was like Friday, right? I want
1191
00:42:28.060 --> 00:42:29.000
to say it was just after we finished
1192
00:42:29.000 --> 00:42:32.320
recording. Trump said he was considering Dana White
1193
00:42:32.320 --> 00:42:34.060
for press secretary, and it sounds like someone
1194
00:42:34.060 --> 00:42:35.800
actually fed him the name Dana White, and
1195
00:42:35.800 --> 00:42:37.560
he just assumed it was the UFC guy
1196
00:42:37.560 --> 00:42:39.480
and not this woman who works in the
1197
00:42:39.480 --> 00:42:42.360
administration who's been there a while. So I
1198
00:42:42.360 --> 00:42:44.880
don't know. Listen, I'm happy with either one.
1199
00:42:44.880 --> 00:42:46.220
I looked at her CV. It looks pretty
1200
00:42:46.220 --> 00:42:48.360
good. If she's a party, if she's a
1201
00:42:48.360 --> 00:42:50.120
party lady, then let's go for it. But
1202
00:42:50.120 --> 00:42:53.960
this is even funnier because if it is
1203
00:42:53.960 --> 00:42:57.460
actually going to happen this way. I mean,
1204
00:42:57.460 --> 00:43:00.900
listen, Carolyn Levitt was probably one of the
1205
00:43:00.900 --> 00:43:04.280
better press secretaries of my like sort of
1206
00:43:04.280 --> 00:43:07.380
politically aware lifetime. Obama. had a few good
1207
00:43:07.380 --> 00:43:08.980
ones and he was also good himself as
1208
00:43:08.980 --> 00:43:11.360
much as it pains me to admit. But
1209
00:43:11.360 --> 00:43:13.640
Leavitt did a really good job. I would
1210
00:43:13.640 --> 00:43:17.820
say since Huckabee Sanders and Leavitt were the
1211
00:43:17.820 --> 00:43:20.740
first of Trump's administration, you know, one and
1212
00:43:20.740 --> 00:43:23.840
two, he's really struggled to find someone who
1213
00:43:23.840 --> 00:43:26.300
is as good as his first pick. And
1214
00:43:26.300 --> 00:43:28.320
I hope he figures this out because there's
1215
00:43:28.320 --> 00:43:30.780
never been a greater need for, you know,
1216
00:43:30.780 --> 00:43:32.520
strong communication from the White House and from
1217
00:43:32.520 --> 00:43:34.840
the president's office than there is right now,
1218
00:43:34.840 --> 00:43:36.460
given the sort of like, you know, condition
1219
00:43:36.460 --> 00:43:38.680
of the, I don't want to say deteriorating
1220
00:43:38.680 --> 00:43:40.100
global order, but I think that's a fair
1221
00:43:40.100 --> 00:43:42.700
characterization, to be perfectly honest with you. And
1222
00:43:42.700 --> 00:43:45.160
the bleed out from the Republicans, like, you
1223
00:43:45.160 --> 00:43:46.400
know, Joe, you can, if you're going to
1224
00:43:46.400 --> 00:43:48.240
go next, but I'd be curious to your
1225
00:43:48.240 --> 00:43:50.120
thoughts. I was saying last week that I
1226
00:43:50.120 --> 00:43:53.560
think the Republicans, they either are going to
1227
00:43:53.560 --> 00:43:55.860
continue losing or they're going to embrace, like,
1228
00:43:55.860 --> 00:43:58.300
some elements of the Fuentes right at some
1229
00:43:58.300 --> 00:44:00.220
point over the next two years. I don't
1230
00:44:00.220 --> 00:44:01.240
know how it's going to look, but they
1231
00:44:01.240 --> 00:44:03.420
need a good press secretary to sort of
1232
00:44:03.420 --> 00:44:06.080
weave that basket form, at least in my
1233
00:44:06.080 --> 00:44:09.040
thing. What is going on with this true
1234
00:44:09.040 --> 00:44:10.960
social post right here? I just have a
1235
00:44:10.960 --> 00:44:13.040
lot of questions. Okay, okay, let me lay
1236
00:44:13.040 --> 00:44:14.300
it up for you. So let me go
1237
00:44:14.300 --> 00:44:16.100
back to that tab there. I am pleased
1238
00:44:16.100 --> 00:44:17.720
to announce that the great Dana White, a
1239
00:44:17.720 --> 00:44:19.700
violent fighter and warrior, has been offered the
1240
00:44:19.700 --> 00:44:21.860
job of press secretary of the United States.
1241
00:44:21.860 --> 00:44:23.720
I have requested that he bring with him
1242
00:44:23.720 --> 00:44:26.880
assistance, even though some are not from our
1243
00:44:26.880 --> 00:44:29.760
country of, okay, a bunch of names there.
1244
00:44:29.760 --> 00:44:31.660
We need these people to defend us against
1245
00:44:31.660 --> 00:44:33.760
the lunatic left. Dana will be press secretary.
1246
00:44:33.760 --> 00:44:36.380
like no other, Dana, please take the job,
1247
00:44:36.380 --> 00:44:38.820
President Trump. And then I have here from
1248
00:44:38.820 --> 00:44:41.580
the Hormuz letter, breaking. Trump may have accidentally
1249
00:44:41.580 --> 00:44:43.980
chosen the wrong Dana White for his White
1250
00:44:43.980 --> 00:44:46.160
House press
secretary offer. There is a woman
1251
00:44:46.160 --> 00:44:48.060
named Dana White, who is a former assistant
1252
00:44:48.060 --> 00:44:51.200
to the Secretary of Defense for Public Affairs,
1253
00:44:51.200 --> 00:44:54.880
more commonly known as the Pentagon's chief spokesperson,
1254
00:44:54.880 --> 00:44:56.920
spokesperson from April 2017 to the end of
1255
00:44:56.920 --> 00:44:59.600
April 2018, which, if you're wondering if they
1256
00:44:59.600 --> 00:45:01.460
share any resemblance, they do not. They do
1257
00:45:01.460 --> 00:45:05.320
not look anything alike. So it's suspected that
1258
00:45:05.320 --> 00:45:06.900
someone said, hey, we're thinking of Dana White
1259
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for press secretary, and Trump was just like,
1260
00:45:08.940 --> 00:45:11.020
I'm in, let's do it. This sounds great.
1261
00:45:11.020 --> 00:45:12.740
I love my boy. And threw out that
1262
00:45:12.740 --> 00:45:15.920
post. Somebody should have told him because obviously
1263
00:45:15.920 --> 00:45:17.820
it's well known that they're boys and they
1264
00:45:17.820 --> 00:45:18.860
go all the way back to like the
1265
00:45:18.860 --> 00:45:21.280
late 90s or early 2000. That's a hilarious
1266
00:45:21.280 --> 00:45:23.060
mistake though. I love it. I love the
1267
00:45:23.060 --> 00:45:25.160
idea. But then he actually got him. I
1268
00:45:25.160 --> 00:45:27.000
love the idea. He's like getting the truth
1269
00:45:27.000 --> 00:45:28.960
social post out faster than the person can
1270
00:45:28.960 --> 00:45:30.880
correct him. Like him walking down the hallway
1271
00:45:30.880 --> 00:45:32.520
with the person he's telling to post it
1272
00:45:32.520 --> 00:45:33.900
and the other guys like running behind. I'd
1273
00:45:33.900 --> 00:45:37.080
be like, no, sir, sir, sir. No, it's
1274
00:45:37.080 --> 00:45:40.520
not the first time. He's got Dana there.
1275
00:45:40.520 --> 00:45:42.940
Really? Yeah, I've heard his name. It was
1276
00:45:42.940 --> 00:45:44.240
either two years ago or maybe he's in
1277
00:45:44.240 --> 00:45:46.780
the first administration. And so to me, it
1278
00:45:46.780 --> 00:45:48.340
was, it actually was like, I was kind
1279
00:45:48.340 --> 00:45:50.080
of, not expected, but I was like, oh,
1280
00:45:50.080 --> 00:45:51.820
okay, that kind of makes sense. And it
1281
00:45:51.820 --> 00:45:53.360
would just fits for exactly what's going on.
1282
00:45:53.360 --> 00:45:55.340
We talked about the high tea, all this
1283
00:45:55.340 --> 00:45:57.680
stuff going on that you kind of need
1284
00:45:57.680 --> 00:45:59.860
someone to lead through this transition. It makes
1285
00:45:59.860 --> 00:46:01.220
a ton of sense to me to have
1286
00:46:01.220 --> 00:46:02.740
someone like that. He knows of events too.
1287
00:46:02.740 --> 00:46:04.420
He's a public speaker. He knows how to
1288
00:46:04.420 --> 00:46:06.180
be proud. He knows how to work in
1289
00:46:06.180 --> 00:46:08.200
audience. I think he'd be able to do
1290
00:46:08.200 --> 00:46:09.940
it just We gotta let him work blue.
1291
00:46:09.940 --> 00:46:11.680
He works blue when he does his UFC
1292
00:46:11.680 --> 00:46:13.340
pressers. So I would like to see him
1293
00:46:13.340 --> 00:46:15.300
work blue here too. If he's taking that
1294
00:46:15.300 --> 00:46:16.820
role. Well, the other, Those who don't know
1295
00:46:16.820 --> 00:46:19.120
what working blue means, Joey, can you clarify?
1296
00:46:19.120 --> 00:46:20.320
You gotta be able to swear. You gotta
1297
00:46:20.320 --> 00:46:21.380
be able to swear. Yeah. Yeah. Well, the
1298
00:46:21.380 --> 00:46:23.220
other crazy part two is like, again, we
1299
00:46:23.220 --> 00:46:25.060
had Joe Biden literally didn't show up for
1300
00:46:25.060 --> 00:46:26.940
like a month straight. No one saw him.
1301
00:46:26.940 --> 00:46:28.440
He's falling up and downstairs. Like, no one
1302
00:46:28.440 --> 00:46:30.140
questioned that, right? Like, oh, you know, he's
1303
00:46:30.140 --> 00:46:32.120
fine. He's never been better. You know, like
1304
00:46:32.120 --> 00:46:33.340
all the ridiculous. is we go back and
1305
00:46:33.340 --> 00:46:35.860
watch montages of people like saying like, he
1306
00:46:35.860 --> 00:46:37.380
really kicks our ass mentally when we go
1307
00:46:37.380 --> 00:46:39.060
talk to him, when we can find him,
1308
00:46:39.060 --> 00:46:40.420
you know, but then like Donald Trump does
1309
00:46:40.420 --> 00:46:41.740
this and they're like, he might have picked
1310
00:46:41.740 --> 00:46:43.620
the wrong one and people believe it. They
1311
00:46:43.620 --> 00:46:45.080
write it and they're like, oh, he might
1312
00:46:45.080 --> 00:46:47.340
have, he might have picked it. That, it's
1313
00:46:47.340 --> 00:46:48.500
just like, it goes back to the clown
1314
00:46:48.500 --> 00:46:50.480
world part of the nature wearing one in
1315
00:46:50.480 --> 00:46:51.980
the first segment of like, people can't believe
1316
00:46:51.980 --> 00:46:53.600
anything and there's some black pill. They'll just
1317
00:46:53.600 --> 00:46:55.220
like eat it up. It's like, oh, Joe
1318
00:46:55.220 --> 00:46:57.240
Biden is mentally there. And then, oh, yeah,
1319
00:46:57.240 --> 00:46:59.900
Donald Trump picked the wrong person. It's just,
1320
00:46:59.900 --> 00:47:02.680
whatever, call me crazy. It's an easy miss.
1321
00:47:02.680 --> 00:47:04.540
It's an easy mess. No, Joey, you have
1322
00:47:04.540 --> 00:47:06.480
thrown a question to Joe asking about the
1323
00:47:06.480 --> 00:47:09.500
kind of Fuentes battle maybe in the future
1324
00:47:09.500 --> 00:47:13.080
there. Joe being our resident Zoomer and key
1325
00:47:13.080 --> 00:47:15.340
officer for speaking to the younger generation, I
1326
00:47:15.340 --> 00:47:16.840
would actually be curious his views. But maybe
1327
00:47:16.840 --> 00:47:18.420
Joey, you want to tee it up. And
1328
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then after Joe Walker, be curious, your thoughts
1329
00:47:19.820 --> 00:47:22.220
as well. Well, I just look at the,
1330
00:47:22.220 --> 00:47:25.300
there's a sort of two, obviously two groups
1331
00:47:25.300 --> 00:47:27.500
that the Republicans, I think, failed to grab
1332
00:47:27.500 --> 00:47:29.720
in the midterms. and the one that I
1333
00:47:29.720 --> 00:47:31.420
want to talk about is the young white
1334
00:47:31.420 --> 00:47:34.560
vote, male vote specifically. Yeah. They couldn't get,
1335
00:47:34.560 --> 00:47:36.420
they couldn't corral that vote a second time.
1336
00:47:36.420 --> 00:47:38.140
Not only did it turn out against them,
1337
00:47:38.140 --> 00:47:40.500
it turned out against them huge in states
1338
00:47:40.500 --> 00:47:42.560
that were red. Look at, I mean, I
1339
00:47:42.560 --> 00:47:44.680
don't have to give you the states, but
1340
00:47:44.680 --> 00:47:47.260
like you can look at now, Texas. We
1341
00:47:47.260 --> 00:47:51.480
talked about Alabama electing a trans governor, trans,
1342
00:47:51.480 --> 00:47:53.580
whatever that was, I forget now. But like,
1343
00:47:53.580 --> 00:47:56.460
things that were basically politically unthinkable, regardless of
1344
00:47:56.460 --> 00:47:57.920
what lens you looked at them through a
1345
00:47:57.920 --> 00:48:03.680
year ago. basically all happened. And I look
1346
00:48:03.680 --> 00:48:05.900
at the way, again, like, I feel like
1347
00:48:05.900 --> 00:48:07.320
I have to couch when I talk about
1348
00:48:07.320 --> 00:48:11.440
Nick. He's a racist and he's anti -Semitic
1349
00:48:11.440 --> 00:48:13.460
and, you know, he says things that no
1350
00:48:13.460 --> 00:48:15.180
one, in my opinion, should be saying, especially
1351
00:48:15.180 --> 00:48:16.480
not, you know, when you have that much
1352
00:48:16.480 --> 00:48:18.980
influence, but even in private. And when you
1353
00:48:18.980 --> 00:48:21.640
think about what this guy has done, you
1354
00:48:21.640 --> 00:48:24.040
know, and been through because of those views,
1355
00:48:24.040 --> 00:48:26.180
it's incredible to me that there's almost no
1356
00:48:26.180 --> 00:48:28.780
other explanation for the fact that these guys
1357
00:48:28.780 --> 00:48:31.700
all went to the left during the election,
1358
00:48:31.700 --> 00:48:33.720
except that he told him to do it.
1359
00:48:33.720 --> 00:48:35.760
And it's like, it's almost unbelievable to me
1360
00:48:35.760 --> 00:48:37.860
that the Republican Party seems unwilling to take
1361
00:48:37.860 --> 00:48:39.760
the shackles off this kid and try and
1362
00:48:39.760 --> 00:48:41.320
bring him into the fold. Maybe you can,
1363
00:48:41.320 --> 00:48:42.620
maybe you can tame the lion, maybe you
1364
00:48:42.620 --> 00:48:44.560
can't. But what you can't afford to do
1365
00:48:44.560 --> 00:48:47.500
is alienate him and his base. You can't
1366
00:48:47.500 --> 00:48:49.020
do it. It's just not a feasible strategy
1367
00:48:49.020 --> 00:48:51.880
anymore. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, my opinion on
1368
00:48:51.880 --> 00:48:54.800
this is a little bit interesting. So, like,
1369
00:48:54.800 --> 00:48:55.920
obviously, you know, some of the things Nick
1370
00:48:55.920 --> 00:48:57.800
Quintas says is pretty outrageous, particularly for a
1371
00:48:57.800 --> 00:48:59.900
guy who doesn't. have a wife, never had
1372
00:48:59.900 --> 00:49:01.760
a girlfriend, doesn't know any children. And it's
1373
00:49:01.760 --> 00:49:03.920
a little suspicious. A little suspicious. No, and
1374
00:49:03.920 --> 00:49:04.800
so it's like, it's like, it's not, you
1375
00:49:04.800 --> 00:49:06.700
know, for me, it's like I always lend
1376
00:49:06.700 --> 00:49:08.580
more credence to people who have clearly built
1377
00:49:08.580 --> 00:49:11.400
a life for themselves, right, that I would
1378
00:49:11.400 --> 00:49:13.660
aspire to. And for a guy like Nick,
1379
00:49:13.660 --> 00:49:15.420
he may be very shrewd, but the one
1380
00:49:15.420 --> 00:49:18.060
thing that he seriously lacks is what Charlie
1381
00:49:18.060 --> 00:49:21.420
Kirk, for example, you know, had in space.
1382
00:49:21.420 --> 00:49:23.920
That picture right up there, that's a sign
1383
00:49:23.920 --> 00:49:25.600
letter from the vice president. That right there,
1384
00:49:25.600 --> 00:49:26.800
that's a picture of Charlie Kirk. Not many
1385
00:49:26.800 --> 00:49:27.940
people know that. I don't think anybody knows
1386
00:49:27.940 --> 00:49:29.240
that at some of my wife. And that's
1387
00:49:29.240 --> 00:49:30.840
been in my office since I built this
1388
00:49:30.840 --> 00:49:34.460
office. He is, like, the prime example of
1389
00:49:34.460 --> 00:49:36.780
how to actually build a successful political movement.
1390
00:49:36.780 --> 00:49:39.300
And I guarantee you, 90, 95 % of
1391
00:49:39.300 --> 00:49:42.000
the belief systems are shared between Nick Fuentes
1392
00:49:42.000 --> 00:49:44.720
and Charlie Kirk. The only problem lies in
1393
00:49:44.720 --> 00:49:46.860
their delivery and how they choose to go
1394
00:49:46.860 --> 00:49:49.020
about these things. Nick Flentis is more cut
1395
00:49:49.020 --> 00:49:50.660
from the cloth of like a Hassan Piker
1396
00:49:50.660 --> 00:49:53.320
for an example, right? He's very vulgar. He's
1397
00:49:53.320 --> 00:49:55.160
very brash. He says crazy things to get
1398
00:49:55.160 --> 00:49:58.060
clips. Same exact thing with Hassan. Whereas I
1399
00:49:58.060 --> 00:50:00.560
think Nick Fuentes, you know, some of the
1400
00:50:00.560 --> 00:50:02.180
things he says, particularly telling his followers to
1401
00:50:02.180 --> 00:50:03.440
vote for Democrats, those are not in the
1402
00:50:03.440 --> 00:50:06.760
long -term interest of the American, you know,
1403
00:50:06.760 --> 00:50:09.960
people. Hassan just hates America, right? So I
1404
00:50:09.960 --> 00:50:13.360
wouldn't necessarily say that the Republican Party
needs
1405
00:50:13.360 --> 00:50:15.920
to count out to the Nick Fuentes base,
1406
00:50:15.920 --> 00:50:17.780
but I do think that the one thing
1407
00:50:17.780 --> 00:50:20.680
Nick Fuentes has been absolutely correct on, among
1408
00:50:20.680 --> 00:50:22.480
a lot of other things, but most correct
1409
00:50:22.480 --> 00:50:24.300
on was the Iran war. I don't think
1410
00:50:24.300 --> 00:50:25.860
anybody in America wanted the Iran war to
1411
00:50:25.860 --> 00:50:27.680
happen. it was the primary reason that we
1412
00:50:27.680 --> 00:50:30.300
wound up losing. And so, you know, I
1413
00:50:30.300 --> 00:50:32.240
wouldn't necessarily, so I largely agree with you,
1414
00:50:32.240 --> 00:50:35.220
Joey, but I think that it was more
1415
00:50:35.220 --> 00:50:38.240
happenstance, rather than, like, oh, the America first
1416
00:50:38.240 --> 00:50:40.280
vote, all the Groypers got out and voted
1417
00:50:40.280 --> 00:50:42.020
blue and it flipped the country. I think
1418
00:50:42.020 --> 00:50:44.320
it's more so just jaded at the Iran
1419
00:50:44.320 --> 00:50:46.180
War, and the Groyper's just so happened to
1420
00:50:46.180 --> 00:50:47.960
be as well. As far as, like, he,
1421
00:50:47.960 --> 00:50:49.140
and the reason I say that, and I'm
1422
00:50:49.140 --> 00:50:51.140
not entirely convinced that he or the Groypers
1423
00:50:51.140 --> 00:50:52.560
have a ton of actual influence in their
1424
00:50:52.560 --> 00:50:54.620
own right is because I think you guys
1425
00:50:54.620 --> 00:50:56.180
may remember back to 2024, when you guys,
1426
00:50:56.180 --> 00:50:57.960
he was tweeting things like, guys, I'm sending
1427
00:50:57.960 --> 00:50:59.780
people out, we're going to flip, you know,
1428
00:50:59.780 --> 00:51:02.180
some crazy red state, and he didn't. And,
1429
00:51:02.180 --> 00:51:06.040
like, obviously, there was nothing. He held, like,
1430
00:51:06.040 --> 00:51:08.460
an America First political action conference, but he
1431
00:51:08.460 --> 00:51:09.880
sold so few tickets that he had to
1432
00:51:09.880 --> 00:51:11.240
move it to, like, a dive bar, and
1433
00:51:11.240 --> 00:51:12.920
then got kicked out of the dive bar.
1434
00:51:12.920 --> 00:51:13.920
And this was like, you know, a year
1435
00:51:13.920 --> 00:51:15.820
and a half ago, two years ago. So,
1436
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you know, as much as we see him
1437
00:51:18.160 --> 00:51:19.900
a ton on X, I just think it
1438
00:51:19.900 --> 00:51:21.320
just so happy to be that the American
1439
00:51:21.320 --> 00:51:23.060
people were very jaded toward the Iran war,
1440
00:51:23.060 --> 00:51:25.360
myself included. I think he's an extremely shrewd
1441
00:51:25.360 --> 00:51:27.100
guy. And I think if he got his
1442
00:51:27.100 --> 00:51:28.860
act together and try to do something more
1443
00:51:28.860 --> 00:51:30.400
along the lines of what Charlie Kirk did,
1444
00:51:30.400 --> 00:51:33.760
which is actually
going out, getting to vote,
1445
00:51:33.760 --> 00:51:36.280
and being more reasonable and just saying basically
1446
00:51:36.280 --> 00:51:38.240
what everybody is thinking, without all the other
1447
00:51:38.240 --> 00:51:39.520
crazy stuff, I think he'd be far more
1448
00:51:39.520 --> 00:51:42.180
effective, in my opinion. And that's just coming
1449
00:51:42.180 --> 00:51:44.580
for me. Like, a lot of my Zoomer
1450
00:51:44.580 --> 00:51:47.360
friends send me Fuentes clips. Like a lot
1451
00:51:47.360 --> 00:51:48.880
of my Zoomer friends that I know watch
1452
00:51:48.880 --> 00:51:51.960
his show. And so I know he does
1453
00:51:51.960 --> 00:51:53.260
have a lot of pull with the youth,
1454
00:51:53.260 --> 00:51:55.560
particularly right, but I'm in Massachusetts. Yeah, yeah,
1455
00:51:55.560 --> 00:51:57.940
yeah. Democrat anyway. But I think it's more
1456
00:51:57.940 --> 00:51:59.800
along the lines of, it's sort of a
1457
00:51:59.800 --> 00:52:01.540
symptom almost of people being fed up with
1458
00:52:01.540 --> 00:52:03.240
the current way things are done, right? Being
1459
00:52:03.240 --> 00:52:05.480
promised mass deportations. And even though we're getting
1460
00:52:05.480 --> 00:52:07.400
mass deportations, we're just not getting them as
1461
00:52:07.400 --> 00:52:09.740
fast as the right would have cared for.
1462
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You know, we got the Iran war. Nobody
1463
00:52:11.600 --> 00:52:12.880
voted for the Iran war. So I think
1464
00:52:12.880 --> 00:52:14.720
he's sort of an embodiment of that general
1465
00:52:14.720 --> 00:52:17.440
jaded nature toward modern American politics. But I
1466
00:52:17.440 --> 00:52:20.380
don't think that he could ever, you know,
1467
00:52:20.380 --> 00:52:23.120
sort of be brought in per se. If
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he got it, if he stopped doing these
1469
00:52:24.500 --> 00:52:25.700
things, of course he could be brought in.
1470
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But I don't see the future where, like,
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mainstream Republicans, you know, sort of tow the
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00:52:30.940 --> 00:52:33.000
line of, like, Nick Fuentes 1 .0, if
1473
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you will, if that's... It's the Anakin memes,
1474
00:52:36.300 --> 00:52:39.500
man, Walker? Yeah. I think that Joe is
1475
00:52:39.500 --> 00:52:41.100
nailing it on this. One thing that I'll
1476
00:52:41.100 --> 00:52:43.240
say, too, is that I think, first of
1477
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all, Fuentes is obviously a highly intelligent guy.
1478
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Like, that's very clear. He's obviously, like, very
1479
00:52:49.820 --> 00:52:52.600
well read. He's got a very good handle
1480
00:52:52.600 --> 00:52:55.380
on history. You may not like everything that
1481
00:52:55.380 --> 00:52:57.820
he has to to say, that's okay, but
1482
00:52:57.820 --> 00:53:01.060
the guy is smart, and he's an incredible,
1483
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00:53:04.480
like, he's an incredible broadcaster. He's, like, for
1484
00:53:04.480 --> 00:53:05.600
all of us up here who know how
1485
00:53:05.600 --> 00:53:09.600
difficult broadcasting is, he's very, very, very good
1486
00:53:09.600 --> 00:53:11.760
at it. And he's good at tapping into
1487
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those, those emotions that get people riled up.
1488
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The contrast that I think that is apt
1489
00:53:16.540 --> 00:53:19.180
to draw between someone like Fuentes and someone
1490
00:53:19.180 --> 00:53:22.700
like Charlie Kirk is that what Fuentes primarily
1491
00:53:22.700 --> 00:53:24.940
pushes is, it's a little bit of an
1492
00:53:24.940 --> 00:53:29.300
apathetic nihilism. At the end of the day,
1493
00:53:29.300 --> 00:53:30.960
it's kind of like, yeah, we should do
1494
00:53:30.960 --> 00:53:32.140
this and this and this, but it's not
1495
00:53:32.140 --> 00:53:34.640
actually like the call to action. It's calling
1496
00:53:34.640 --> 00:53:36.720
out the problems, but it's not the call
1497
00:53:36.720 --> 00:53:38.140
to action of how to fix it. That's
1498
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something I think Charlie Kirk did really well
1499
00:53:40.400 --> 00:53:43.360
and stayed on message with is actually giving
1500
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people a reason to hope, a reason to
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00:53:45.100 --> 00:53:48.000
be proud, a reason to say, hey, America's
1502
00:53:48.000 --> 00:53:49.480
got its problems, but let's go out there
1503
00:53:49.480 --> 00:53:51.640
and let's fix them. Let's do something about
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00:53:51.640 --> 00:53:54.320
it. may Charlie Kirk rest in peace. I
1505
00:53:54.320 --> 00:53:56.360
think that was a truly great. great loss
1506
00:53:56.360 --> 00:54:00.060
losing someone like him because I think he
1507
00:54:00.060 --> 00:54:04.680
did know how to organize politically. I mean,
1508
00:54:04.680 --> 00:54:06.220
one of the, one of the best out
1509
00:54:06.220 --> 00:54:08.920
there at an age younger than me when
1510
00:54:08.920 --> 00:54:12.040
he was murdered, when he was assassinated. It's
1511
00:54:12.040 --> 00:54:13.700
an incredible loss because that's what I think
1512
00:54:13.700 --> 00:54:17.540
that generally we need more of is people
1513
00:54:17.540 --> 00:54:18.660
who are actually coming out there. And you
1514
00:54:18.660 --> 00:54:20.980
see this, that's the thing. From the Hassan
1515
00:54:20.980 --> 00:54:24.120
Pikers or from the Nick Fuentes, either side,
1516
00:54:24.120 --> 00:54:26.300
it's like, yeah, you know, one is, Hassan's
1517
00:54:26.300 --> 00:54:29.560
obviously, you know, anti -American, uh, dog zapper.
1518
00:54:29.560 --> 00:54:33.300
Little, yeah, dog zapping, uh, little trust fund
1519
00:54:33.300 --> 00:54:35.460
baby who likes to, you know, cosplay as
1520
00:54:35.460 --> 00:54:38.140
a fancy dress and commie, um, and should
1521
00:54:38.140 --> 00:54:40.460
just be absolutely ridiculed and disregarded as all
1522
00:54:40.460 --> 00:54:44.700
communists should. But even Fuentes, uh, it's a
1523
00:54:44.700 --> 00:54:46.960
lot of, yes, I think it's important to
1524
00:54:46.960 --> 00:54:48.700
focus in the doom. It's important to focus
1525
00:54:48.700 --> 00:54:50.140
on some of the negative aspects of things
1526
00:54:50.140 --> 00:54:51.520
because you need to wake people up with
1527
00:54:51.520 --> 00:54:54.540
those. You need to get them viscerally, viscerally
1528
00:54:54.540 --> 00:54:56.820
reacting. to what you're speaking about is that
1529
00:54:56.820 --> 00:54:58.660
they actually have a reason to care. But
1530
00:54:58.660 --> 00:55:00.900
then after you do that, you need to
1531
00:55:00.900 --> 00:55:02.540
be, after you talk about the problem, you
1532
00:55:02.540 --> 00:55:03.800
have to be able to talk about the
1533
00:55:03.800 --> 00:55:05.860
solution and present it in a coherent way
1534
00:55:05.860 --> 00:55:08.620
that gives people a reason to hope. Because
1535
00:55:08.620 --> 00:55:10.700
otherwise, you don't actually mobilize anyone. You just
1536
00:55:10.700 --> 00:55:13.520
create a mass audience of people who sit
1537
00:55:13.520 --> 00:55:16.200
bitching, you know, in their house and are
1538
00:55:16.200 --> 00:55:18.420
too afraid to voice their ideas publicly in
1539
00:55:18.420 --> 00:55:20.760
any real person's sense because they don't actually
1540
00:55:20.760 --> 00:55:22.540
have a solution. They can call out the
1541
00:55:22.540 --> 00:55:24.220
problems, but they can't say what they would
1542
00:55:24.220 --> 00:55:25.820
do to fix it. And the things they
1543
00:55:25.820 --> 00:55:26.900
would do to fix it, perhaps are not
1544
00:55:26.900 --> 00:55:29.940
entirely coherent. And this is not like a
1545
00:55:29.940 --> 00:55:31.040
knock on point just, I think this is
1546
00:55:31.040 --> 00:55:32.980
just like, this is how he broadcast. I
1547
00:55:32.980 --> 00:55:34.620
think you need people like that who are
1548
00:55:34.620 --> 00:55:37.160
going to be able to mobilize the youth's
1549
00:55:37.160 --> 00:55:39.360
emotional response. But if you can't actually mobilize
1550
00:55:39.360 --> 00:55:43.620
people to take constructive action, you can't mobilize
1551
00:55:43.620 --> 00:55:45.100
people to actually go out there and do
1552
00:55:45.100 --> 00:55:49.220
something positive, to take positive, proactive action instead
1553
00:55:49.220 --> 00:55:52.700
of sort of this reactionary negativity. And just
1554
00:55:52.700 --> 00:55:57.000
reactionary negativity just necessarily breeds. nihilism and nihilism
1555
00:55:57.000 --> 00:55:59.560
doesn't get anything done like that that's kind
1556
00:55:59.560 --> 00:56:01.020
of the thing about nihilism right is that
1557
00:56:01.020 --> 00:56:02.580
you're not going to do anything it gets
1558
00:56:02.580 --> 00:56:04.700
you voting for the left yeah yeah exactly
1559
00:56:04.700 --> 00:56:06.080
it
gets you the point where oh this
1560
00:56:06.080 --> 00:56:07.240
they're so screwed you know what ha ha
1561
00:56:07.240 --> 00:56:08.880
I'll troll them by voting you know voting
1562
00:56:08.880 --> 00:56:10.680
for the retarded it's ridiculous it's like I
1563
00:56:10.680 --> 00:56:12.460
I don't like the Iran war as much
1564
00:56:12.460 --> 00:56:13.700
as the next guy but I'm not going
1565
00:56:13.700 --> 00:56:15.720
to vote for kill the kill all Americans
1566
00:56:15.720 --> 00:56:18.820
party to get back it's like oh geez
1567
00:56:18.820 --> 00:56:20.440
everybody I wonder what I'm going to do
1568
00:56:20.440 --> 00:56:23.020
you know and that's that's that's my issue
1569
00:56:23.020 --> 00:56:24.000
too I think you hit it on the
1570
00:56:24.000 --> 00:56:26.340
head it's like Charlie Kelly Kirk sort of
1571
00:56:26.340 --> 00:56:28.420
open the door with everything that's wrong, and
1572
00:56:28.420 --> 00:56:29.740
then he presented a real solution and actually
1573
00:56:29.740 --> 00:56:30.900
got out there and built a business to
1574
00:56:30.900 --> 00:56:33.440
help fix it. Nick Flint is, starts here
1575
00:56:33.440 --> 00:56:35.160
and he never gets over here. And I
1576
00:56:35.160 --> 00:56:37.200
think that he could. I think that he
1577
00:56:37.200 --> 00:56:40.020
could because he's smart enough to. He's smart
1578
00:56:40.020 --> 00:56:41.580
enough to. Maybe it's a little bit of
1579
00:56:41.580 --> 00:56:44.080
like audience capture, which is something like we
1580
00:56:44.080 --> 00:56:46.120
all know something about is like, you know,
1581
00:56:46.120 --> 00:56:48.860
we're, we're, we're, Joe, Joe's, uh, Joe's probably
1582
00:56:48.860 --> 00:56:50.800
the the leash needs because he's really broken
1583
00:56:50.800 --> 00:56:52.740
out of the just Bitcoiners bubble into, I
1584
00:56:52.740 --> 00:56:55.100
think the larger larger, larger macro sphere. which
1585
00:56:55.100 --> 00:56:57.880
is great. But, you know, it's easy. Joey's
1586
00:56:57.880 --> 00:56:59.320
now in the MSTR camp, so he's got
1587
00:56:59.320 --> 00:57:01.700
that too. Well, yeah, Joey's basically on MSTR
1588
00:57:01.700 --> 00:57:06.700
True North. But, like, it's difficult to get
1589
00:57:06.700 --> 00:57:08.660
past that audience capture point, right? And when
1590
00:57:08.660 --> 00:57:10.120
you have people, you sort of start feeling
1591
00:57:10.120 --> 00:57:11.240
like, okay, this is, I know this is
1592
00:57:11.240 --> 00:57:12.400
what my audience wants to hear. I know
1593
00:57:12.400 --> 00:57:13.280
this is what's going to get him riled
1594
00:57:13.280 --> 00:57:14.220
up. I know this is what's going to
1595
00:57:14.220 --> 00:57:16.800
get my show clipped. And Flentis is really,
1596
00:57:16.800 --> 00:57:18.780
really good at that. Again, he's an incredible
1597
00:57:18.780 --> 00:57:21.220
broadcaster. That's hard to do to go out
1598
00:57:21.220 --> 00:57:23.980
there and go off the cuff solo for
1599
00:57:23.980 --> 00:57:27.520
hours. Like, that's fucking hard. That's really hard
1600
00:57:27.520 --> 00:57:30.180
to do. Speaking of hard, this is the
1601
00:57:30.180 --> 00:57:32.540
guy who's gonna, uh, who's threatening you online,
1602
00:57:32.540 --> 00:57:33.620
by the way. Look at him. Look at
1603
00:57:33.620 --> 00:57:35.340
him. Oh boy. Look, those kicks. Look at
1604
00:57:35.340 --> 00:57:37.280
that for him. Anyway, I think I wanted
1605
00:57:37.280 --> 00:57:39.260
to say that. Whenever I think of Hassan,
1606
00:57:39.260 --> 00:57:41.800
I think of that's excellent. Yeah, but no,
1607
00:57:41.800 --> 00:57:43.300
I think that, and this is just a
1608
00:57:43.300 --> 00:57:45.160
general thing for, especially I think for for
1609
00:57:45.160 --> 00:57:47.820
Bitcoin content creators that maybe that's why Bitcoin
1610
00:57:47.820 --> 00:57:49.740
stays so niche. Because actually I think that,
1611
00:57:49.740 --> 00:57:50.640
and this is a bit of a black
1612
00:57:50.640 --> 00:57:52.820
pill, I don't think most people want the
1613
00:57:52.820 --> 00:57:54.920
solution. And it's sad to say, I don't,
1614
00:57:54.920 --> 00:57:57.940
don't think most people actually want the solution.
1615
00:57:57.940 --> 00:57:59.260
They don't want to know that there is
1616
00:57:59.260 --> 00:58:00.620
the, yeah, we're in a dark tunnel, but
1617
00:58:00.620 --> 00:58:02.200
there is a light at the under end.
1618
00:58:02.200 --> 00:58:03.700
And it's not a train. Like, the train
1619
00:58:03.700 --> 00:58:06.000
is behind you. Run towards the light, run
1620
00:58:06.000 --> 00:58:08.300
towards the sunshine, run towards the bright orange
1621
00:58:08.300 --> 00:58:11.020
future. People don't want that message of optimism.
1622
00:58:11.020 --> 00:58:14.100
What they want, they actually, they crave nihilism,
1623
00:58:14.100 --> 00:58:18.040
I think. They crave negativity. They crave the,
1624
00:58:18.040 --> 00:58:20.020
everything is so fucked up, and I'm smart
1625
00:58:20.020 --> 00:58:21.760
enough to know about it because I'm super
1626
00:58:21.760 --> 00:58:23.440
enlightened in all this, but there's nothing I
1627
00:58:23.440 --> 00:58:24.840
can do about it. There's nothing anyone can
1628
00:58:24.840 --> 00:58:27.100
do. It's all just fucked. But hey, at
1629
00:58:27.100 --> 00:58:28.660
least I'm smart enough to know about it
1630
00:58:28.660 --> 00:58:30.800
and can glibly tweet about it. He, ha,
1631
00:58:30.800 --> 00:58:32.400
ha, hey, hey, you know, keck, kek, kek.
1632
00:58:32.400 --> 00:58:36.160
Like, no, no, we need to have optimism.
1633
00:58:36.160 --> 00:58:37.280
We need to have hope. We need to
1634
00:58:37.280 --> 00:58:39.400
have a belief that we can make things
1635
00:58:39.400 --> 00:58:42.640
better through our actions individually and collectively, not
1636
00:58:42.640 --> 00:58:45.700
in the bullshit collectivist way. But in the
1637
00:58:45.700 -->
00:58:48.420
sense that a lot of people striving to
1638
00:58:48.420 --> 00:58:49.700
do what is right and do what is
1639
00:58:49.700 --> 00:58:51.140
good and do what is just and do
1640
00:58:51.140 --> 00:58:53.220
what is fair, will make the world a
1641
00:58:53.220 --> 00:58:55.320
better place. But you know what? People don't
1642
00:58:55.320 --> 00:58:57.600
fucking want that. They want fucking doom and
1643
00:58:57.600 --> 00:59:00.580
gloom and fucking clickbait. That's what they want.
1644
00:59:00.580 --> 00:59:02.140
So, you know what, little piggy's gobble it
1645
00:59:02.140 --> 00:59:04.600
the fuck up. You can continue being sad
1646
00:59:04.600 --> 00:59:06.760
sacks of little misery. And you know what?
1647
00:59:06.760 --> 00:59:07.540
We're going to keep doing. We're going to
1648
00:59:07.540 --> 00:59:10.100
keep trying to occasionally bring you some positivity
1649
00:59:10.100 --> 00:59:12.160
that may just turn your head slightly towards
1650
00:59:12.160 --> 00:59:14.240
that light because it does exist. It is
1651
00:59:14.240 --> 00:59:16.180
bright and it is waiting for you. All
1652
00:59:16.180 --> 00:59:18.380
you have to do is walk toward it.
1653
00:59:18.380 --> 00:59:20.760
End of rant. People want the excuse. They
1654
00:59:20.760 --> 00:59:22.540
want an excuse to say yes to the
1655
00:59:22.540 --> 00:59:24.060
Chinese spy. Now, we're going to go to
1656
00:59:24.060 --> 00:59:25.400
break. And on the other side of the
1657
00:59:25.400 --> 00:59:26.680
break, there's the question, though. At the other
1658
00:59:26.680 --> 00:59:27.920
side of the break, I got some sailor
1659
00:59:27.920 --> 00:59:29.020
news, a little bit of micro strategy. I
1660
00:59:29.020 --> 00:59:30.920
got some inflation and labor data as well,
1661
00:59:30.920 --> 00:59:32.000
too. But I'm going to give it to
1662
00:59:32.000 --> 00:59:34.320
Joe, being so kind for coming and joining
1663
00:59:34.320 --> 00:59:35.700
us today. Joe, do you want to hit
1664
00:59:35.700 --> 00:59:37.220
that or seeing us that we brought up,
1665
00:59:37.220 --> 00:59:38.240
Charlie Kirk, do you want to talk about
1666
00:59:38.240 --> 00:59:40.580
Dave Chappelle? You know, we can hit on
1667
00:59:40.580 --> 00:59:42.700
both. We can hit on both. All right,
1668
00:59:42.700 --> 00:59:45.400
that sounds good. I'm going to rattle through
1669
00:59:45.400 --> 00:59:46.780
the macro data. And maybe we'll do a
1670
00:59:46.780 --> 00:59:48.120
little more culture as well, too. So if
1671
00:59:48.120 --> 00:59:50.220
you're enjoying the conversation, throw a chair. If
1672
00:59:50.220 --> 00:59:51.060
you think that you're going to do something
1673
00:59:51.060 --> 00:59:52.580
better about the world, rather than being nihilistic
1674
00:59:52.580 --> 00:59:54.300
and bitch about it, also throw a chair.
1675
00:59:54.300 --> 00:59:55.660
Hit that like button and we'll be right
1676
00:59:55.660 --> 00:59:58.820
back with you. Unless
for some reason you
1677
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1678
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1680
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size where you know you should do something
1681
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So I talked about at the top of
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the show, microsailor strategy buys another 1 ,037
1749
01:02:33.000 --> 01:02:36.120
Bitcoin worth 77 million. There you go, Joey.
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We have, they came in and now bringing
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01:02:37.600 --> 01:02:40.880
the total up to 850, 365 BTC. I
1752
01:02:40.880 --> 01:02:42.540
did notice that that BTC per share went
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01:02:42.540
--> 01:02:43.760
down a little bit there, buddy. Sorry about
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01:02:43.760 --> 01:02:46.240
that. Additionally, want to hit on some of
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01:02:46.240 --> 01:02:49.760
the Fed input. I know. New York Fed,
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01:02:49.760 --> 01:02:52.240
U .S. inflation expectations beat forecast as job
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01:02:52.240 --> 01:02:54.760
fears rise. So we got inflation. inflation data
1758
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sitting at 1 .91, I believe the expectations
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01:02:57.700 --> 01:02:59.420
on the three -year, 3 .3, and on
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01:02:59.420 --> 01:03:02.240
the five -year expectations, 3 .0. And then
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the other one I found was quite interesting
1762
01:03:03.620 --> 01:03:06.060
was layoff fears hit highest since COVID crash
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as inflation expectations stay stuck near three -year
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highs. So, Joe, I want to get your
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take on the little macro overview that we
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01:03:12.120 --> 01:03:13.880
have there. And then we can move to
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maybe even discussing the recent viral comments from
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Mr. Dave Chappelle. Yeah. So, oh, goodness, I
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01:03:20.380 --> 01:03:22.060
have this in full screen. I can't share
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01:03:22.060 --> 01:03:23.180
my screen. Let me go. There you go.
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01:03:23.180 --> 01:03:26.460
All right, beautiful. Oh, no, it was an
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01:03:26.460 --> 01:03:27.460
issue on my head. I had it blown
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up on full string. Here we go. Okay.
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So this is the Bitcoin terminal. And I
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01:03:32.180 --> 01:03:34.180
made this out of spite because Bloomberg created
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01:03:34.180 --> 01:03:36.260
a new thing where instead of being able
1777
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to log in remotely, you need like a
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Bloomberg keyboard, which obviously I don't have. I
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01:03:40.000 --> 01:03:41.680
was using the Bloomberg terminal for free for
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all those years. So I just, in the
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01:03:43.400 --> 01:03:44.840
remaining time that I had it, I just
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replicated basically everything on it. So this is
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the inflation report expectations for tomorrow. Last month,
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obviously they came in it. 0 .7%. The
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01:03:53.880 --> 01:03:55.940
expectation for the month of October being reported
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01:03:55.940 --> 01:03:59.640
tomorrow is 3 .9%. So an acceleration and
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inflation, if it comes in lower than expected,
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01:04:02.320 --> 01:04:04.120
expect risk to react really well. If it
1789
01:04:04.120 --> 01:04:06.380
comes in hotter than expected, expect obviously risk
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01:04:06.380 --> 01:04:10.460
to ask risk to behave poorly. These are
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the odds of the rate decision, the upcoming
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01:04:13.320 --> 01:04:15.840
rate decisions in December. You can see the
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01:04:15.840 --> 01:04:17.840
odds of a high rate at 81%. So
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01:04:17.840 --> 01:04:19.780
basically locked in, we're still a month away.
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If we get like a series of weaker
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than expected economic prints, with inflation next month,
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then that could go away. But I doubt
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it. And then basically, the expectations right now
1799
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are that after that, they'll be on hold
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for the next two meetings. So ostensibly, the
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01:04:33.100 --> 01:04:35.280
last hikes of the cycle, and probably the
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01:04:35.280 --> 01:04:37.600
last hike of the cycle in December, especially
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01:04:37.600 --> 01:04:40.600
if you consider, if you go to WTI
1804
01:04:40.600 --> 01:04:42.660
crude oil, I'm pretty sure I have it
1805
01:04:42.660 --> 01:04:45.100
somewhere on here. Is this it? Yeah, right
1806
01:04:45.100 --> 01:04:46.720
here. So if you look at crude oil
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01:04:46.720 --> 01:04:49.080
and you go back, let's go back three
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01:04:49.080 --> 01:04:51.740
years. If we go all the way back
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01:04:51.740 --> 01:04:53.960
here, you can see the expectations of the
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01:04:53.960 --> 01:04:56.180
last Fed hike are in December on hold
1811
01:04:56.180 --> 01:04:58.520
in January and March. And that makes sense
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because right around March was the time last
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01:05:02.060 --> 01:05:04.500
year, it was the time when oil prices
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01:05:04.500 --> 01:05:07.060
obviously spiked the first time. They went over,
1815
01:05:07.060 --> 01:05:09.500
well over 100 bucks. And so they've been
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01:05:09.500 --> 01:05:12.820
shopping around here. That means by next March,
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the inflation data that will be coming in
1818
01:05:14.280 --> 01:05:16.860
will be very cool. But it won't be
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01:05:16.860 --> 01:05:20.200
cool because prices are actually decelerating in terms
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01:05:20.200 --> 01:05:21.940
of their rise. They'll only be cool because
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01:05:21.940 --> 01:05:23.780
of the base effects of inflation. So the
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01:05:23.780 --> 01:05:26.140
energy inflation measured from last year to this
1823
01:05:26.140 --> 01:05:29.920
year, beginning next March, will be extremely low,
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01:05:29.920 --> 01:05:31.740
right? Obviously, because this is where you're measuring
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01:05:31.740 --> 01:05:34.080
from. Currently, we're measuring from down here. So
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01:05:34.080 --> 01:05:36.220
the energy inflation is still really high. But
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once you're measuring from up here to down
1828
01:05:37.700 --> 01:05:39.620
here, it's really low. Or up here to
1829
01:05:39.620 --> 01:05:40.700
where we are now, it's really low. So
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01:05:40.700 --> 01:05:43.440
I expect this to be the last type
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01:05:43.440 --> 01:05:46.600
of the cycle. That said, it's like, you
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01:05:46.600 --> 01:05:48.360
know, the economy is clearly doing quite well,
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01:05:48.360 --> 01:05:50.100
even with rates as high as they are.
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01:05:50.100 --> 01:05:52.640
So I tend to think that the energy
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01:05:52.640 --> 01:05:53.920
inflation is going to. going to help, but
1836
01:05:53.920 --> 01:05:56.080
it might not bring inflation all the way
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01:05:56.080 --> 01:05:58.120
down. I hope that it will. And if
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it does, that would be great. And I
1839
01:06:00.720 --> 01:06:02.640
guess the Treasury market is pricing that in,
1840
01:06:02.640 --> 01:06:05.380
too. Obviously, growth expectations here and all the
1841
01:06:05.380 --> 01:06:06.760
way out at the 30 year. Those have
1842
01:06:06.760 --> 01:06:08.500
been falling for the last about month and
1843
01:06:08.500 --> 01:06:10.200
some change, which is good. That means the
1844
01:06:10.200 --> 01:06:12.440
market believes that growth and inflation expectations are
1845
01:06:12.440 --> 01:06:14.640
slowing. I think this lines up with sort
1846
01:06:14.640 --> 01:06:16.140
of the idea that I have, which is,
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you know, around next March, inflation will sort
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01:06:17.800 --> 01:06:19.480
of cool off. That's why there's only one
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01:06:19.480 --> 01:06:21.000
high price 10. And I think this is
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01:06:21.000 --> 01:06:22.460
all perfect, a perfect setup for Bitcoin. I'm
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01:06:22.460 --> 01:06:24.200
sorry for yapping. so much, but this is
1852
01:06:24.200 --> 01:06:25.720
very similar to the setup we had in
1853
01:06:25.720 --> 01:06:29.220
December of 2022 for Bitcoin specifically. There's the
1854
01:06:29.220 --> 01:06:30.360
last thing I'll say. If we go all
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01:06:30.360 --> 01:06:33.800
the way back here, right around this time
1856
01:06:33.800 --> 01:06:36.580
here, right, the bottom in 2022, we had
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01:06:36.580 --> 01:06:38.340
inflation that was coming in hot print after
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01:06:38.340 --> 01:06:39.780
print and a Fed that was expected to
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01:06:39.780 --> 01:06:42.800
hike in order to bring it down, right?
1860
01:06:42.800 --> 01:06:44.320
All of these right here were rate hikes
1861
01:06:44.320 --> 01:06:46.300
as economic data cool. Well, guess what? There's
1862
01:06:46.300 --> 01:06:48.960
only one rate hike price in now, and
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01:06:48.960 --> 01:06:50.300
I believe we put our bottom in in
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01:06:50.300 --> 01:06:52.080
June, right? So could Bitcoin drift a little
1865
01:06:52.080 --> 01:06:54.340
lower? Sure. I don't think it's going to
1866
01:06:54.340 --> 01:06:55.520
drift too much lower. I certainly don't think
1867
01:06:55.520 --> 01:06:56.740
it's going to make a new low. But,
1868
01:06:56.740 --> 01:06:59.420
like, everything's lining up with 2022, and it's
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01:06:59.420 --> 01:07:03.100
very encouraging. Beautiful. I absolutely love it. So
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then, changing topics for the last little bit
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of the show here. Let me go ahead
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and play the clip from Dave Chappelle that
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was going viral. I feel fucked up saying.
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It's scary being a public speaker. And I
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mean, look, ever since, that guy, Charlie Kirkman,
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01:07:23.180 --> 01:07:28.040
got murdered. And I shouldn't say this publicly,
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01:07:28.040 --> 01:07:35.460
but I feel better. I still am a
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01:07:35.460 --> 01:07:37.160
human being. I know, I shouldn't say that,
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01:07:37.160 --> 01:07:42.980
but it's just a feeling. Joe, your thoughts
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01:07:42.980 --> 01:07:45.760
there, sir. I just don't think that was
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01:07:45.760 --> 01:07:47.840
funny. Like, where is the punchline? And there
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01:07:47.840 --> 01:07:50.440
was a, um, you know, there was a
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01:07:50.440 --> 01:07:51.940
person who had reported being there for the
1884
01:07:51.940 --> 01:07:54.240
entire thing. And apparently it was just him
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01:07:54.240 --> 01:07:56.420
like walking around up on stage, meandering around
1886
01:07:56.420 --> 01:07:58.940
aimlessly with his cigarette in his mouth talking
1887
01:07:58.940 --> 01:08:02.160
about Charlie Kirk and the Epstein files. And
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01:08:02.160 --> 01:08:04.440
then like the show ended. It like apparently
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01:08:04.440 --> 01:08:07.540
there were no actual comedic bits. But you
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01:08:07.540 --> 01:08:08.700
know, to be to be frank, that kind
1891
01:08:08.700 --> 01:08:09.920
of lines up with the way that Dave
1892
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Chappelle has kind of done as comedy, particularly
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01:08:12.040 --> 01:08:14.100
over the last like five, five, six, seven
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01:08:14.100 --> 01:08:16.480
years since his resurgence. Like some of his
1895
01:08:16.480 --> 01:08:18.120
Netflix specials were pretty good. But for the
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01:08:18.120 --> 01:08:20.040
most part, like as far as most of
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his comedy is concerned, I think he thinks
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01:08:22.200 --> 01:08:24.020
of himself very highly. like almost as like
1899
01:08:24.020 --> 01:08:26.440
a philosopher king of sorts like he had
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a show on comedy central in the early
1901
01:08:27.820 --> 01:08:29.640
2000s it was in the middle of the
1902
01:08:29.640 --> 01:08:31.440
bush era everybody loved it because he was
1903
01:08:31.440 --> 01:08:33.820
like this super duper funny bombastic guy he
1904
01:08:33.820 --> 01:08:35.840
said a naughty word he lost his show
1905
01:08:35.840 --> 01:08:38.020
um you know and then he goes on
1906
01:08:38.020 --> 01:08:40.040
Netflix and says another naughty word like 12
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01:08:40.040 --> 01:08:42.100
years later and everybody loves him and
that's
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sort of like dave chapelle's career right i'm
1909
01:08:43.820 --> 01:08:45.360
not trying to knock the guy but i
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think that that just wasn't objectively very funny
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at all and then he went on to
1912
01:08:50.400 --> 01:08:51.520
say and this is ironic he went on
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to say that um You know, I bet
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he's looking up at us right now, laughing
1915
01:08:56.780 --> 01:08:59.160
his ass off, which is funny because, you
1916
01:08:59.160 --> 01:09:01.460
know, Dave Chappelle isn't a Christian. He doesn't
1917
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believe in heaven or hell. I call him
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an atheist, but people were quick to point
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out that he's actually a devout Muslim, to
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01:09:06.760 --> 01:09:09.440
which I responded, what's the difference. And so
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it's like, it's, it's kind of remarkable how
1922
01:09:12.040 --> 01:09:14.280
unfun. Maybe he's doing like an anti -comedy
1923
01:09:14.280 --> 01:09:15.820
routine. I don't know. Maybe some people get
1924
01:09:15.820 --> 01:09:17.320
a kick out of this, but it's kind
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01:09:17.320 --> 01:09:19.360
of insane that culturally you can do that.
1926
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Like, imagine a comedian getting up like a
1927
01:09:21.540 --> 01:09:23.720
year after, and obviously JFK was. the president.
1928
01:09:23.720 --> 01:09:24.840
Charlie Kirk was not the president. But to
1929
01:09:24.840 --> 01:09:26.900
say that Charlie wasn't like one of if
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01:09:26.900 --> 01:09:28.760
not the most consequential political figures of the
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21st century, I think you're doing a disservice
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if you don't admit that. Like imagine a
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01:09:33.260 --> 01:09:35.960
comedian going up in like, you know, 1968,
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like a year and some change after JFK
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was murdered or whatever and saying like, I'm
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glad that he's dead, you know? Imagine the
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national headlines is a crazy backlash. I mean,
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we've seen, you know, stuff like this before.
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Gilbert Godfrey, like 11 days after 9 -11
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in New York City doing a joke about
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9 -11. saying like, oh, you know, I
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01:09:54.520 --> 01:09:56.140
got an express flight that was supposed to
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take a stop at the Empire State Building
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or something like that. And everybody in the
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crowd was like, oh my gosh, but at
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least like there was a punchline. At least
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that was a joke. This is basically him
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just saying like, oh, I'm glad this family
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man was assassinated. It's just odd. Walker. I
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would say that Charlie Kirk would have supported
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Dave Chappelle's right to make any joke he
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wants. That being said, I don't know the
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context around that joke. I have not watched
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that comedy special at all. I think Dave
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Chappelle is generally a very funny guy. I
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think when he came back from his hiatus
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and he came in and he very much
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like was being very anti -woke at a
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time when that was needed. I think that
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was really good and also was really funny.
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Like now this, that like taken out of
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context, I don't find that to be particularly
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funny. Personally, I wouldn't make a joke about
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Charlie, you know, Charlie Kirk's murder, especially in
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that context, but I'm also not a comedian.
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I will say that, like, I think that,
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again, I think that Charlie Kirk probably would
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have said, yeah, you should make whatever jokes
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you want, Dave. And then the market can
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decide whether or not those jokes are actually
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funny. Like, that one, just, just from that
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01:11:12.020 --> 01:11:14.560
clip, like, that's, like, that's, like, that's like,
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that's like, that's like liberal funny. You know
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what I mean? Where it's like, we said
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a mean thing about a person we hate.
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Like, ha, ha. Like, it's not, like, it's
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not, no one that's actually funny. So, like,
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what I'm worried about, what I'm worried about,
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because I think Dave Chappelle has done a
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really good job of cutting through the forced
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bullshit of wokeism and did a really, like,
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those specials when he came back from his
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hiatus were fucking great. They were really, like,
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I thought they were really good.
Like, and
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he got all sorts of death threats from
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the, the, the he, she's, and, or the,
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he's that are from the pronouns, peoples, and
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whatnot. And, and, and, and that was good.
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Like, because as a comedian, I think you
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need to be able to say anything. Now,
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that doesn't mean that you shouldn't be judged
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for how actually funny that is, because your
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job as a comedian is to be funny.
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Your job is to be able to actually
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as a comedian to say the really uncomfortable
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things that people don't want to say, but
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that everyone's thinking, and say it in such
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a way that it resonates. And even maybe
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the people who disagree with you and think
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you're a piece of shit, kind of get
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a little chuckle, like, okay, well, all right.
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That was, you know, I was pretty, I
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wasn't expecting that, you know, I don't think
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that's what this was. Again, I'd have to
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watch the rest of it. But again, I
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will support always, well, for anyone, but especially
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for comedians, I think comedians need to be
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able to say anything. They should be judged
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on whether or not it's actually funny and
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clever and poignant and gets at something deeper
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that makes people think a little bit. Like
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that, that's why, that's what makes great comedy
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great is, first of all, it's got to
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be funny. Like, that's kind of the prerequisite.
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But it should also make people think. It
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should make you question. Comedy should make you
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uncomfortable. The best comedy makes people uncomfortable because
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they're sitting there laughing. They're like, I shouldn't
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be laughing at this, but damn if it
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ain't funny, right? I don't think that that
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was particularly funny. I think it's just more
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telling that the audience, like members of the
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audience found that like funny enough to do
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like hyena -esque laughter. And that's my point.
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It's liberal funny. It's liberal funny. It's liberal
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funny where it's like we said this we
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said a guy that we disagreed with was
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the devil and deserved to die and it's
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like well that's not really it's not really
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funny that's just like you guys being like
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sycophantic weirdos and like glorifying death like i
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i would guess that this isn't the first
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time dave schipel's made a joke about somebody
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recently deceased also uh but again like i
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think it's important the comedians be able to
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say whatever they want and be judged not
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be not be canceled for what they say
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but instead not get the views because what
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they said wasn't funny. I think there should
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be a free market in comedy, and that
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is comedy is one of the places where
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you should absolutely be a free speech absolutist.
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Like you, because you need to have that.
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You need the function of the court jester.
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Like that was the function of the court
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jester was to be able to say the
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things to not beheaded for making the jokes
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about the king that everybody knew were true,
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but nobody else could say because they get
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their fucking head chopped off. But the jester's
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like, and the king has a tiny penis,
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01:14:17.140 --> 01:14:19.320
ha ha! And like, you know, something about
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01:14:19.320 --> 01:14:22.260
taxing people. too much, whatever. Point being, I
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don't think that was funny. I think Dave
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Schipel can do a hell of a lot
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better. But I support his right to say
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it because I think that we need free
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speech, and I think we need free speech
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in comedy more so than anywhere. And I
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think that people will either, they will either
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favor you with
their views or they will
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01:14:35.980 --> 01:14:37.760
not, depending on whether or not the thing
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that you said was actually funny or not,
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which I don't think that particularly was again.
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But, Buck Dave, I support your right to
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say it. Beauty. Brandon. End of mini rant.
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Yeah, and these are great thoughts by both
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you guys. try to come from a different
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angle with it a little bit. I feel
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01:14:53.000 --> 01:14:54.540
like the zoomers are coming back, and you
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01:14:54.540 --> 01:14:56.340
know, obviously Joe can speak to that more,
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01:14:56.340 --> 01:14:58.640
but just, you know, back to life, you
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01:14:58.640 --> 01:15:01.540
know, where we, unfortunately, there's clowns here in
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Michigan, you know, Joe, what happened, obviously in
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Massachusetts with a bunch of women cackling around
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like, yeah, we can kill children up to
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the day of birth, you know, stuff like
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that. I don't think the zoomers are really
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01:15:10.200 --> 01:15:12.020
falling for that stuff anymore. And that's where
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like that kind of comedy, those kind of
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things, even though they have the right to
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01:15:14.760 --> 01:15:15.760
say it and they should be able to
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say, it's free speech. Like the free market,
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01:15:17.980 --> 01:15:20.960
you can stand to, to, to, you know,
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on the merits of what people said. But
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the younger generations, I just don't think are
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01:15:24.040 --> 01:15:25.460
putting up of this stuff anymore. And this
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01:15:25.460 --> 01:15:27.380
goes back to, and I'll throw Trump in
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01:15:27.380 --> 01:15:29.800
this, too. This is where the Trump stick,
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01:15:29.800 --> 01:15:30.860
some of, some of what he does is
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01:15:30.860 --> 01:15:31.980
getting old now. And this is what you
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01:15:31.980 --> 01:15:33.500
saw with the election of what's happening. I
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01:15:33.500 --> 01:15:34.660
think there's a time in place for it.
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The last 10 years, 12 years needed it.
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01:15:36.400 --> 01:15:38.560
We talked about Chappelle needed it, going against
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01:15:38.560 --> 01:15:40.980
wokeism, all that. But we're now, we're progressing
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01:15:40.980 --> 01:15:43.220
to a level of consciousness with society of
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01:15:43.220 --> 01:15:45.280
like, okay, going back to the Fuente stuff.
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We need the truth of Fuentes that we
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01:15:47.480 --> 01:15:49.300
said on Friday and the empathy of the
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01:15:49.300 --> 01:15:50.760
left. You need to be able to marry
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01:15:50.760 --> 01:15:52.940
those two things together, and that's like the
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01:15:52.940 --> 01:15:55.460
way forward. Whoever can do that and thread
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01:15:55.460 --> 01:15:57.560
that needle, like Charlie did. And that's why
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01:15:57.560 --> 01:15:59.480
he had to be taken out by the
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01:15:59.480 --> 01:16:01.180
evil one, right? Like, that was, he was
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such an affront to what the evil one
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01:16:03.260 --> 01:16:05.840
wanted, that, you know, marrying those two things
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01:16:05.840 --> 01:16:08.900
of truth and reality and love together that
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he had to be taken out. So they,
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you know, some another day on one of
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01:16:12.260 --> 01:16:13.300
the podcasts on the left side, we need
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01:16:13.300 --> 01:16:14.700
to dig up Charlie and do it all
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01:16:14.700 --> 01:16:17.200
over again. Then you had Trump, I think
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01:16:17.200 --> 01:16:19.080
it was a 60 minutes thing saying that,
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01:16:19.080 --> 01:16:20.260
yeah, I'm always going hate some of my
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01:16:20.260 --> 01:16:23.340
enemies. Unfortunately, that's not the way of Christ.
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01:16:23.340 --> 01:16:25.260
Now, again, I believe in just war theory,
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01:16:25.260 --> 01:16:26.400
all this stuff, but we do need to
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01:16:26.400 --> 01:16:29.300
get to this next echelon of justice, whether
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01:16:29.300 --> 01:16:31.960
it's actual justice, Nuremberg trials for COVID and
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01:16:31.960 --> 01:16:33.140
some of the things that happen, but also
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a forgiveness state, too, because we're coming to
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01:16:35.420 --> 01:16:37.340
an inflection point, again, like we talked about
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01:16:37.340 --> 01:16:38.460
the other day of the Civil War and
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01:16:38.460 --> 01:16:40.040
the guy getting beat under his, under his
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01:16:40.040 --> 01:16:42.680
desk to death almost, and we're coming to
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01:16:42.680 --> 01:16:44.140
the inflection point where both sides, we've got
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01:16:44.140 --> 01:16:45.780
to kill Elon Musk, Trump's, you know, they're
2130
01:16:45.780 --> 01:16:47.700
going to go after Trump, is these worlds
2131
01:16:47.700 --> 01:16:50.560
where we have to find. some middle ground
2132
01:16:50.560 --> 01:16:52.040
going forward or else we won't make it.
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01:16:52.040 --> 01:16:53.740
We literally will kill ourselves and we won't
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01:16:53.740 --> 01:16:55.280
make it. But I do have a lot
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01:16:55.280 --> 01:16:56.900
of faith in the younger generations. I don't
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01:16:56.900 --> 01:16:57.860
think they're going to be putting up with
2137
01:16:57.860 --> 01:16:59.940
this. The under 40 crowd, under 45, want
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01:16:59.940 --> 01:17:02.740
transparency. They're sick of the nonsense. And so
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01:17:04.680
I'm very bullish on the future of what's
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01:17:04.680 --> 01:17:07.180
going on. And the last thing I'll say,
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too, is the people that are more ops,
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01:17:09.380 --> 01:17:11.360
and we mentioned this again about Fuentes being
2143
01:17:11.360 --> 01:17:13.920
an op potentially on Friday. But the people
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01:17:13.920 --> 01:17:15.460
that aren't offering solutions, again, I want to
2145
01:17:15.460 --> 01:17:18.540
just reiterate that. So important. You have a
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01:17:18.540 --> 01:17:20.880
lot of the Candace, the Tucker, crowd, you've
2147
01:17:20.880 --> 01:17:22.140
got to be very careful. Because even though
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01:17:22.140 --> 01:17:23.740
they're pinpointing truth a lot of time, they're
2149
01:17:23.740 --> 01:17:25.940
sprinkling things with truth, they don't provide a
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01:17:25.940 --> 01:17:27.180
lot of solutions. You've got to be very
2151
01:17:27.180 --> 01:17:29.460
careful with those people. Not to say that,
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01:17:29.460 --> 01:17:31.280
you know, we all get things wrong at
2153
01:17:31.280 --> 01:17:33.380
times, but when they're never providing real solutions
2154
01:17:33.380 --> 01:17:35.040
and it's just, it's that person's fault, that
2155
01:17:35.040 --> 01:17:36.940
person's fault, you've got to be very careful.
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01:17:36.940 --> 01:17:38.520
And that's to me, one of those dividing
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01:17:38.520 --> 01:17:40.380
lines of how you kind of see where
2158
01:17:40.380 --> 01:17:42.300
is this person really on my side or
2159
01:17:42.300 --> 01:17:43.520
not, are they around the side of truth
2160
01:17:43.520 --> 01:17:45.320
and in love, or are they going a
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01:17:45.320 --> 01:17:47.980
different direction and being, you know, persuaded by
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01:17:47.980 --> 01:17:50.460
some other, you know, darker entity out there.
2163
01:17:50.460 --> 01:17:54.760
So, great choice. Yeah, we've got 10 minutes.
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01:17:54.760 --> 01:17:58.140
I can go deep here. Listen, vote with
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01:17:58.140 --> 01:17:59.560
your eyes, vote with your eyes, vote with
2166
01:17:59.560 --> 01:18:01.460
your wallet, vote with your feet. Chappelle is
2167
01:18:01.460 --> 01:18:03.760
crossing a line in my view there for
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01:18:03.760 --> 01:18:06.560
people who have, you know, a reasonable expectation
2169
01:18:06.560 --> 01:18:09.900
of seeing a comedy, the comedy act say
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01:18:09.900 --> 01:18:11.680
some funny stuff. I'm with Walker. You can
2171
01:18:11.680 --> 01:18:13.140
say whatever you want, but it's my right
2172
01:18:13.140 --> 01:18:15.260
as well to not show up. And I
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01:18:15.260 --> 01:18:17.520
hope other people think about that same way.
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01:18:17.520 --> 01:18:19.260
No, fair enough. I completely agree. Like, killing
2175
01:18:19.260 --> 01:18:20.400
him softly. And for what it's worth, we're
2176
01:18:20.400 --> 01:18:22.680
like amazing specials. I think Dave Chabelle is
2177
01:18:22.680 --> 01:18:24.620
usually
absolutely hilarious. I think there's just a
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01:18:24.620 --> 01:18:25.840
miss. You're going to miss at some point
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01:18:25.840 --> 01:18:26.900
in times. I bet she had some bad
2180
01:18:26.900 --> 01:18:28.620
data, too. Also, he's like one degree of
2181
01:18:28.620 --> 01:18:30.740
separation away from Fuentes because he was hanging
2182
01:18:30.740 --> 01:18:32.420
out with Kanye. And I'm not sure between
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01:18:32.420 --> 01:18:34.780
Kanye and Charlie, who's maybe a better public
2184
01:18:34.780 --> 01:18:36.520
speaker, maybe somebody you'd want to be potentially
2185
01:18:36.520 --> 01:18:38.680
going after. But regardless, it's fun. So it
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01:18:38.680 --> 01:18:40.480
was a great conversation. I've had a wonderful
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time tonight. Ben was not with us tonight.
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Do you know where he will be? He
2189
01:18:43.300 --> 01:18:44.500
will be at the sovereign summit as I
2190
01:18:44.500 --> 01:18:45.800
go ahead and cover up the gentleman on
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01:18:45.800 --> 01:18:47.540
the right hand on the screen. We've got
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the Sovereign Summit down in Miami from February
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01:18:50.040 --> 01:18:52.060
4th to 7th. Joey, you'll be happy to
2194
01:18:52.060 --> 01:18:53.180
know that Sailor's going to be there if
2195
01:18:53.180 --> 01:18:54.120
you want to go ahead and tell him
2196
01:18:54.120 --> 01:18:56.000
that he should resign or thank him at
2197
01:18:56.000 --> 01:18:58.040
that point in time. I have absolutely no
2198
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idea. Guys, this has been absolutely fantastic. I
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am Nathan. This is Joey Walker, Brandon, and
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