Volledige transcriptie van (#36) Interview with Susy Schieffelin of The Copper Vessel

00:04:42.149 --> 00:04:44.880 And your beautiful baby Eva, and just. 00:04:44.906 --> 00:04:46.855 The life you've created, so thank you. 00:04:46.855 --> 00:04:49.586 It's amazing how the universe works and I'm so excited. 00:04:49.586 --> 00:04:49.886 Oh, isn't it? 00:04:50.156 --> 00:04:51.625 And just the connection as well. 00:04:51.625 --> 00:05:02.846 Like I've got family in the US and in particular a cousin that lives in LA and I said to him, I can't wait to come to the States to see you guys. 00:05:02.846 --> 00:05:10.586 But in particular, I've got lots of sound hitting friends in the US and I just cannot wait to be able to connect with them and see them and just. 00:05:10.776 --> 00:05:16.656 Be in their presence because we did spend so much time through you and through your training to connect. 00:05:16.661 --> 00:05:25.415 And I have to say, when I started my sound bath journey, that was one of the first things I did was to sort of try and find other sound bath healers, because I felt like. 00:05:25.815 --> 00:05:30.886 Being where I am, there is one other sound bar healer who funnily enough we just lived down the road from each other. 00:05:31.096 --> 00:05:39.795 But in terms of like being able to connect and share and be able to exchange ideas and talk about business as a sound healer, felt very few and far between. 00:05:39.795 --> 00:05:46.365 So, jumping into your training, which was roundabout Covid time, it was all the start of that. 00:05:46.636 --> 00:05:52.545 It was so supportive and amazing to be able to connect with so many other beautiful souls. 00:05:53.100 --> 00:05:54.870 And sound healers around the world. 00:05:54.870 --> 00:06:03.151 And in particular, you buddied me up with a Yumi, um, who's in Japan, and we still share our gratitudes just about every single day. 00:06:03.880 --> 00:06:06.391 We still chat, we still taught, we still share life. 00:06:06.391 --> 00:06:15.630 So isn't that amazing that such a beautiful container that you created has enabled us all to still stay so connected as well? 00:06:16.245 --> 00:06:18.646 That makes me so happy, Anna. 00:06:18.735 --> 00:06:19.725 Oh my gosh. 00:06:19.755 --> 00:06:24.586 I mean, first of all that you two are still connected that way, and also that you continue to do your daily gratitudes. 00:06:24.615 --> 00:06:26.625 I mean, both things are life changing. 00:06:26.656 --> 00:06:30.526 Working with gratitude every single day will change your life. 00:06:30.526 --> 00:06:32.656 I mean, talk about a mindset shift, right? 00:06:33.165 --> 00:06:43.156 And you know, to be able to be connected with someone wherever they are, but around the world, someone, and to build that friendship, that lifelong relationship, uh, it's so good. 00:06:43.884 --> 00:06:45.055 It's so special. 00:06:45.384 --> 00:07:05.336 So I know that, and I've mentioned this in a couple of previous podcast episodes of I get a lot of questions about how I did my training or who I did my training with, how I found my bowls, what kind of bowls I used, where did I get them from, and I know you have such a great story about how you came into Sound Bath healing and have evolved into this amazing, amazing. 00:07:06.211 --> 00:07:07.800 Business, the copper vessel. 00:07:07.860 --> 00:07:13.201 So I'd love for you to share your story, if you could, about how you came into Sound Bath healing. 00:07:13.230 --> 00:07:16.560 'cause that's one question I'm getting a lot at the moment is like, well, how did you come into it? 00:07:16.560 --> 00:07:17.911 Like how did this all start? 00:07:17.911 --> 00:07:17.920 Mm-hmm. 00:07:17.990 --> 00:07:21.870 Because it's such a unique, Healing modality. 00:07:22.290 --> 00:07:22.891 Cliche. 00:07:22.896 --> 00:07:23.021 Yeah. 00:07:23.641 --> 00:07:24.841 Yes, absolutely. 00:07:24.841 --> 00:07:38.940 And you know, it's interesting, I think my story is in some ways very similar to that of many people who get on this path, which is that sound healing, touched them and helped them and activated something within them that they were like, how can I then pay this forward? 00:07:39.031 --> 00:07:42.271 So for me, I was. 00:07:43.199 --> 00:07:47.130 On a journey of getting sober, trying to get onto a path of recovery. 00:07:47.399 --> 00:07:52.079 I had hit a really dark place in my life in 2015 where I was suicidal. 00:07:52.084 --> 00:08:01.709 I was struggling with alcoholism and addiction, taking a lot of prescription pills, and just really wrestling with anxiety and a lot of self-doubt and self-judgment. 00:08:01.769 --> 00:08:04.769 I experienced a condition called alopecia, which is. 00:08:05.175 --> 00:08:06.646 Basically unexplained hair loss. 00:08:06.646 --> 00:08:19.605 And I'd been hiding it for most of my life since I was seven and trying to figure out what was wrong with me and seeing all different sorts of healers and eventually just going down a path of like self-sabotage, you know? 00:08:20.115 --> 00:08:23.565 And after hitting rock bottom, I remember I heard this. 00:08:24.105 --> 00:08:27.855 Voice in my mind that was like Susie wake up and live. 00:08:28.634 --> 00:08:35.294 And I started from that point forward pursuing a path of sort of looking for the signs that were guiding me. 00:08:35.446 --> 00:08:40.336 And those signs, little by little, led me to move from the East coast. 00:08:40.365 --> 00:08:41.115 I was living in New York City. 00:08:42.269 --> 00:08:53.010 To the West coast, I moved to California and in the process of moving, I was still experiencing so much anxiety, even though I wasn't drinking alcohol and I wasn't taking prescription pills anymore. 00:08:53.490 --> 00:08:57.630 And my aunt who lived here in California said, do you wanna come with me to a sound bath? 00:08:57.990 --> 00:08:59.490 And I didn't even know what it was. 00:08:59.495 --> 00:09:01.081 I was familiar with meditation. 00:09:01.081 --> 00:09:06.571 I was familiar with yoga, I was familiar with

energy healing, but sound bath was something I'd never experienced before. 00:09:07.051 --> 00:09:07.831 And I just said, yes. 00:09:08.140 --> 00:09:18.520 And in that sound bath, I felt this sense of peace and wholeness and calm, that was like what I had been searching for my whole life. 00:09:18.525 --> 00:09:26.081 You know, all the years of just, oh, my mind being so loud and not knowing like what I was supposed to do next. 00:09:26.086 --> 00:09:28.510 It was like, everything's okay, Suzy. 00:09:28.600 --> 00:09:33.610 So the next chance I got, I went to another sound bath and I went to another sound bath and I went to another sound bath. 00:09:33.610 --> 00:09:34.721 And before long. 00:09:35.370 --> 00:09:37.201 The light had come back in my eyes. 00:09:37.591 --> 00:09:38.971 I was staying sober. 00:09:39.211 --> 00:09:40.890 My life was transforming. 00:09:40.919 --> 00:09:48.419 I had gained like 40 pounds through drinking and using drugs and just living so unhealthily, and the weight was just falling off. 00:09:48.426 --> 00:09:52.260 It was like the weight literally was physically being released from my body and I. 00:09:52.684 --> 00:09:55.715 I was sort of becoming the person I had meant to be. 00:09:55.775 --> 00:10:05.044 And I went to a sound bath one night and came out of it and again, heard this sort of voice in my mind that was like, Susie, you need to learn this so that you can share it. 00:10:05.049 --> 00:10:09.125 If this is helping you so much, it's gonna help other people. 00:10:09.245 --> 00:10:12.005 And at that point, not that many people knew about sound Baths. 00:10:12.005 --> 00:10:14.015 It was fairly popular in la. 00:10:14.195 --> 00:10:16.655 You know, LA is sort of the mecca of this type of work. 00:10:17.044 --> 00:10:20.285 But where I came from on the East Coast, no one knew what it was. 00:10:21.196 --> 00:10:24.765 And so I just went up to the teacher afterwards and I said, how do I learn this? 00:10:25.515 --> 00:10:26.985 And he said, I'll teach you. 00:10:27.706 --> 00:10:35.475 So I never took a formal training, but I basically took my own version of a training by working with him. 00:10:35.475 --> 00:10:38.625 His name was Guy and he taught me how to play Crystal singing bulls. 00:10:38.625 --> 00:10:44.535 He taught me how to play the gong, and I mentored with him for about six months, assisting him at his events. 00:10:45.326 --> 00:10:48.505 And then I had been receiving Reiki healings. 00:10:48.596 --> 00:10:56.846 Ended up taking my first Reiki training and went back to the East coast and on the flight back had really just been feeling like I. 00:10:57.120 --> 00:11:03.510 My corporate job, which I was working in luxury lifestyle management for years and was really good at it and I enjoyed it. 00:11:03.510 --> 00:11:11.640 But I'd been just feeling like as great as this is, and as comfortable as it is, it's not in alignment with my spirit anymore, you know? 00:11:11.640 --> 00:11:14.341 And I was so afraid to take a leap and create a shift. 00:11:14.431 --> 00:11:20.010 I had no idea how to start my own business own, but I just kept hearing that voice that it wasn't in alignment with my spirit. 00:11:20.010 --> 00:11:22.951 And on the plane back from the east coast, I read this book, which. 00:11:23.551 --> 00:11:28.020 I've recommended, I know you've read it, I think too, the Surrender Experiment by Michael La Singer. 00:11:28.041 --> 00:11:28.260 Yes. 00:11:28.740 --> 00:11:29.400 Oh my God. 00:11:29.461 --> 00:11:30.990 That is like my favorite. 00:11:30.990 --> 00:11:32.071 That is one of my favorite books. 00:11:32.076 --> 00:11:33.390 That is an incredible story. 00:11:33.451 --> 00:11:33.541 Mm. 00:11:33.900 --> 00:11:36.240 We read it in divinely guided, right? 00:11:36.245 --> 00:11:37.171 Was that the first time you read it? 00:11:37.201 --> 00:11:37.350 Yeah. 00:11:37.350 --> 00:11:37.471 Yeah. 00:11:37.471 --> 00:11:37.711 Yeah. 00:11:37.740 --> 00:11:38.071 Yeah. 00:11:38.551 --> 00:11:45.091 And I always, in all my trainings now, invite everyone to read it because it, I mean, it had such a huge impact on me. 00:11:45.091 --> 00:11:47.581 And the message is really about surrendering to life, right? 00:11:47.581 --> 00:11:50.941 Like you don't need to figure it out, just follow the breadcrumbs. 00:11:50.971 --> 00:11:53.130 Just have the courage to take the next step. 00:11:53.130 --> 00:11:58.441 So I finished that book and I said, out loud, universe, I surrender. 00:11:58.441 --> 00:11:59.520 Put me on my path. 00:12:00.360 --> 00:12:08.971 Literally two hours later, my boss called me and offered me a different role in the company, basically, and I did not want that role. 00:12:09.061 --> 00:12:12.660 And she said, well, if you don't take this role, you won't have a job. 00:12:13.980 --> 00:12:17.370 And something within me was just like, you can't do it, Susie, don't I? 00:12:17.865 --> 00:12:18.586 Don't take it. 00:12:18.826 --> 00:12:22.485 And even if it means not having a job, this is the sign you've been waiting for. 00:12:22.544 --> 00:12:24.135 So I said, thank you. 00:12:24.135 --> 00:12:24.975 No thank you. 00:12:25.065 --> 00:12:27.615 And she was like, okay, this is your two weeks notice. 00:12:28.145 --> 00:12:28.365 Wow. 00:12:28.456 --> 00:12:31.304 And at that point, I'd taken one reiki training. 00:12:31.485 --> 00:12:33.586 I didn't even, I had one crystal singing bowl, actually. 00:12:33.586 --> 00:12:35.956 I had a frosted bowl that I had ordered on Amazon. 00:12:36.600 --> 00:12:47.941 I'd just been training with Guy and then I reached out to the woman who I'd been to her first sound bath 'cause I really felt called to the Alchemy Bowls even though the investment felt so scary. 00:12:52.035 --> 00:12:52.905 Yeah, you get it. 00:12:53.414 --> 00:12:59.206 I was like, I now have no job and I'm about to spend thousands of dollars on crystal singing bowls. 00:12:59.745 --> 00:13:00.405 But I did it.

00:13:00.405 --> 00:13:03.346 I was like, I just trust that this is what I'm supposed to do. 00:13:03.346 --> 00:13:10.664 So I bought three crystal alchemy singing bowls and started studying with another mentor, Darlyn Glass and. 00:13:11.549 --> 00:13:15.600 That was how my journey really being committed to the path of sound healing began. 00:13:15.600 --> 00:13:19.500 And from there I took more Reiki trainings, became a Reiki master. 00:13:19.500 --> 00:13:23.669 So really, I personally love incorporating Reiki into my sound healing practice. 00:13:24.211 --> 00:13:29.280 I studied with a variety of different mentors, not just sound healing mentors, but. 00:13:30.000 --> 00:13:45.240 Studied with psychic medium, studied with yoga teachers, took multiple yoga teacher trainings, worked with business coaches, and even though I literally had no idea how to start my own business, I just started taking it one step at a time and asking for help, right? 00:13:45.240 --> 00:13:51.721 So created a website, formed an L L C, started creating with the lawyer the legal documents that I needed. 00:13:52.216 --> 00:13:56.416 My background before working in luxury lifestyle management was in marketing. 00:13:56.416 --> 00:14:05.206 So I started posting on Instagram, posting on social media, building out my brand, putting out the word, and basically just telling everyone I'm a sound healer now. 00:14:05.686 --> 00:14:09.375 And at first there was no studio that would let me teach with them. 00:14:09.525 --> 00:14:14.956 So in meditation, I got this message that was like, Susie, just go down to the beach and play. 00:14:15.826 --> 00:14:18.946 So it was July 22nd that I went down. 00:14:18.946 --> 00:14:27.405 It was a full moon, and I had just texted everyone that I knew in my phone, emailed everyone that I had in my contacts, and I was like, I'm leading a sound bath. 00:14:27.466 --> 00:14:29.235 It's a meditation that will help you relax. 00:14:29.235 --> 00:14:31.216 It's for the full moon, please come. 00:14:31.576 --> 00:14:33.556 And it was donation based and. 00:14:33.955 --> 00:14:38.905 26 people came, they gave me incredible, like $500 in donations. 00:14:39.085 --> 00:14:41.575 And I was like, okay, I can do this. 00:14:42.355 --> 00:14:50.635 So little by little, you know, I just kept showing up and then studios started reaching out to me and saying, Hey, actually we would love you to teach a class. 00:14:50.635 --> 00:14:53.125 And then I started teaching at treatment centers. 00:14:53.125 --> 00:15:00.414 And for me, being on a path of recovery, it felt really, really aligned and it does feel really aligned to be of service and help other people who are. 00:15:00.770 --> 00:15:10.910 Struggling with alcoholism and addiction to have that experience of coming back to wholeness and connecting with themself and with their higher self and relaxing. 00:15:11.000 --> 00:15:15.350 So I started working with treatment centers and sober livings, and then I got private clients and I. 00:15:16.395 --> 00:15:19.275 It all just unfolded from there. 00:15:20.145 --> 00:15:20.745 Amazing. 00:15:20.895 --> 00:15:21.855 I love that story. 00:15:21.855 --> 00:15:30.914 I love hearing people's stories about how they started and got to it out, because there's always that moment of, like you said, this isn't in alignment for me. 00:15:30.919 --> 00:15:44.684 And that deep in a knowing, it's almost, it's that thing that's like really holding you back because you know, if you were to go back into that old job or continue on the path that you were, yes, you wouldn't be aligned with what your true sole purpose is in this lifetime, but you'd be. 00:15:45.061 --> 00:15:48.150 You wouldn't be happy, you'd be struggling with some of the same issues. 00:15:48.150 --> 00:15:49.691 Again, universe is always testing you. 00:15:49.696 --> 00:15:57.061 You know, do you wanna be hooked back into that again, or are you going to be brave enough to step into your path of truth and what you are here to do? 00:15:57.150 --> 00:16:02.971 I had tried to leave that job several times, like I had left once truly left, and they convinced me to come back. 00:16:03.301 --> 00:16:09.105 I had left again to go to rehab, and they were like, We'll pay you even when you're at rehab, if you come back. 00:16:09.105 --> 00:16:10.005 I mean, they were amazing. 00:16:10.005 --> 00:16:12.225 That was so generous and incredible. 00:16:12.225 --> 00:16:13.635 But I was like, okay, I'll come back. 00:16:13.666 --> 00:16:16.905 And then when I moved across the country, I was like, I don't know if you'll have a job for me. 00:16:16.905 --> 00:16:17.985 And they're like, we'll create a role. 00:16:17.985 --> 00:16:23.086 So there was this cycle that I kept trying to break out of, and it was like very comfortable. 00:16:23.086 --> 00:16:28.160 And then even when I did leave to become a sound healer, Literally within five months, they reached out. 00:16:28.160 --> 00:16:29.931 They're like, maybe just some part-time work. 00:16:30.020 --> 00:16:36.441 And I went to New York and I put on an all black outfit and I met with them and then I left and I was like, Susie, how many times are you gonna do this? 00:16:36.890 --> 00:16:39.530 You know, it feels safe, it feels comfortable. 00:16:39.530 --> 00:16:44.990 It's so nice to have that paycheck and that insurance, but really, what's the cost? 00:16:45.745 --> 00:16:48.655 Like it's preventing me from fully committing to my purpose. 00:16:48.655 --> 00:16:51.475 And that's not necessarily what I recommend for everyone. 00:16:51.475 --> 00:17:02.155 Because to have a black and white shift from like quitting your job to dive in fully to starting your own business can be a huge, really, it can be very. 00:17:02.581 --> 00:17:08.819 Intense on your nervous system, you know, so like, I don't recommend just quitting your job and saying like, I'm a healer tomorrow. 00:17:08.819 --> 00:17:14.401 Like I had been laying

the groundwork for some time, but like I had been studying with mentors. 00:17:14.401 --> 00:17:20.549 I had taken a training, I had one bowl, there had already been a blog article that came out just by coincidence, you know? 00:17:20.556 --> 00:17:22.171 And I bought my website and. 00:17:22.471 --> 00:17:24.540 Little by little, I was mapping it all out. 00:17:24.540 --> 00:17:27.421 It wasn't that it was a black and white thing overnight. 00:17:27.421 --> 00:17:34.471 So I think that many people feel when they're on this path and feeling an awakening that like I have to just throw it all to the wind. 00:17:34.951 --> 00:17:37.921 But you can make that transition gradually, you know? 00:17:37.921 --> 00:17:44.851 And for me, like it had begun with personal healing and experiencing it and playing and studying, and I read every book I could find on sound healing. 00:17:45.300 --> 00:17:56.431 And then when the time came, It was very clear that that was the moment to take the leap, even though I didn't feel ready, but my nervous system wasn't like a black and white contrast, which caused me to then completely contract. 00:17:56.641 --> 00:17:57.000 You know? 00:17:57.000 --> 00:17:59.820 It was like, okay, this feels scary, but I know how to handle it. 00:18:00.211 --> 00:18:01.080 Yeah, exactly. 00:18:01.080 --> 00:18:09.780 And I think that's something that's really coming out more so in the entrepreneurial world, is the importance of being able to regulate your nervous system. 00:18:09.780 --> 00:18:12.691 Like I've had to sit with those words for a while and go, what does this really mean? 00:18:12.691 --> 00:18:13.621 And what does that mean for me? 00:18:13.621 --> 00:18:14.851 But what I feel it is that. 00:18:15.691 --> 00:18:27.300 Even though entrepreneurship can be painted with so much like freedom and flexibility and making your own income and things like that, it can come with a lot of stress and a lot of anxiety. 00:18:27.300 --> 00:18:33.750 And a lot of pressure because you are your thing, like no one else is there cracking the whip, but you, you've still got all the pressures of life behind you. 00:18:33.750 --> 00:18:38.671 You know, maybe it's family upkeep of your household bills, all the life things. 00:18:38.671 --> 00:18:38.760 Mm-hmm. 00:18:38.881 --> 00:18:41.701 And I do feel what you've said there is so true that. 00:18:42.346 --> 00:18:47.955 To be able to just cut off yourself from one job to leap into the other one without having laid the groundwork. 00:18:48.375 --> 00:18:54.435 It's really important to make sure that within your nervous system, that you are able to maintain that, like take care of yourself. 00:18:54.435 --> 00:18:54.826 When you do. 00:18:54.830 --> 00:19:03.556 Find yourself in those moments of fluctuation of what's gonna happen, like, can I make this work, blah, blah, blah, and not to be continuously cycling through that. 00:19:05.070 --> 00:19:05.431 Yep. 00:19:05.431 --> 00:19:09.270 And I think

another big part of it is having structure, right? 00:19:09.270 --> 00:19:18.451 So like when you have a corporate job working for someone else, you have structure, you have a schedule, you show up to work, you're required to do these things, and when you leave that it's up to you. 00:19:18.510 --> 00:19:20.461 And there's so much freedom in that, right? 00:19:20.461 --> 00:19:23.070 Like you can create your structure and whatever way you want. 00:19:23.070 --> 00:19:28.080 You could work one day a week, five days a week, three days a week, you could work all night and sleep all day. 00:19:28.080 --> 00:19:29.070 It's totally up to you. 00:19:29.310 --> 00:19:29.911 And. 00:19:30.310 --> 00:19:39.340 That can also be a little bit paralyzing, especially in the beginning when you're like, there's so much that I feel like I need to do and where do I start? 00:19:39.346 --> 00:19:39.701 Right? 00:19:39.701 --> 00:19:48.010 And so I've seen people sometimes get paralyzed when they don't have guidance around like, okay, where do you begin when you have a to-do list of a thousand things? 00:19:48.010 --> 00:19:49.240 Just start with one thing. 00:19:49.270 --> 00:20:04.951 And I remember for myself, like when I was first getting started, I drove out to the beach in Malibu to meditate, and it was like a Thursday at 11 o'clock in the morning, and I knew that that was actually the best thing that I could do for my business was to experience. 00:20:05.369 --> 00:20:09.480 This healing and meditation for myself to give myself space to be. 00:20:10.109 --> 00:20:16.290 And I sat on that beach and there was a part of me that felt so guilty, like I should be at my computer, I should be doing something. 00:20:16.351 --> 00:20:23.221 And I had to train myself, retrain myself to know that like this actually counts towards my business. 00:20:23.221 --> 00:20:31.770 This is one of the best things that I can do for my business right now, is to get clarity and slow down and then identify from a place of. 00:20:32.746 --> 00:20:33.465 Of clarity. 00:20:33.496 --> 00:20:33.915 Okay. 00:20:33.915 --> 00:20:35.506 What needs to happen next, right? 00:20:35.506 --> 00:20:36.246 Is it that I. 00:20:37.546 --> 00:20:38.536 Create my logo. 00:20:38.625 --> 00:20:41.234 Is it that I go home and I send through emails? 00:20:41.326 --> 00:20:47.476 Is it that I do a post on social media rather than my head being very busy and spinning out and feeling like I'm so overwhelmed? 00:20:47.476 --> 00:20:48.286 Where do I begin? 00:20:48.316 --> 00:20:51.526 I'm just going to get in bed, pull up the covers and hide right now. 00:20:51.885 --> 00:20:52.546 Yeah, I know, right? 00:20:53.566 --> 00:20:59.445 But sometimes that's sometimes what you need, you wanna do, but it is not really gonna make the wheels turn any further, is it? 00:21:00.226 --> 00:21:00.705 Yeah. 00:21:00.826 --> 00:21:01.365 Yeah. 00:21:01.395 --> 00:21:05.865 So I think like learning a new way of being and how to

be in a space of. 00:21:06.240 --> 00:21:15.151 Freedom and flexibility, but also create a structure for yourself that supports the way you wanna feel and the way you wanna be in your life and your business. 00:21:15.181 --> 00:21:15.750 It's huge. 00:21:17.161 --> 00:21:17.911 Absolutely. 00:21:17.911 --> 00:21:29.340 I think you've said so many really important points there in terms of take structure, making sure that you are doing the work, but also not being in that battle of your mind of, like you said, you're at 00:21:29.340 --> 00:21:31.201 00 AM meditating. 00:21:31.201 --> 00:21:31.230 I. 00:21:31.775 --> 00:21:37.565 I mean, to some that might seem like a real luxury, that's a bit of a holiday thing or something that you do on the weekends. 00:21:37.775 --> 00:21:41.255 And between nine and five is when we're all meant to be sitting at our desk working really hard. 00:21:41.255 --> 00:21:41.346 Mm-hmm. 00:21:41.675 --> 00:21:52.205 But like you said, you know, meditation was the most important thing for you to do and to be able to share that with others and be the example of, well, In this kind of industry I am. 00:21:52.596 --> 00:21:55.955 It doesn't really matter what industry, we all should be meditating at some point during our day. 00:21:56.135 --> 00:22:16.385 But you know how meditation is helping you to slow down to get that clarity and that is still work because if you are not practicing or maintaining your whatever healing aspect or maintaining your mindset, you are energy as a healer, then you are going to be struggling or not necessarily struggling, but it's going to feel well. 00:22:16.385 --> 00:22:19.685 I know within myself, when I'm not doing the work on myself, I can't show up. 00:22:20.266 --> 00:22:23.506 Yeah, to be able to hold space to someone else if I haven't worked on myself. 00:22:23.746 --> 00:22:37.816 So yeah, and that's another thing I think that can happen is like you get on this path because the healing has impacted you so much, and then you get so swept up in the business and the building side of things that you no longer receive that healing for yourself. 00:22:37.816 --> 00:22:40.786 And I see that with many people I've worked with. 00:22:40.935 --> 00:22:44.536 It can pop up for me as well, where I'm like, when was the last time I went to a sound bath? 00:22:45.016 --> 00:22:45.256 Hmm. 00:22:45.346 --> 00:22:47.296 I should really receive, you know? 00:22:47.296 --> 00:22:49.246 And I build for myself. 00:22:49.840 --> 00:23:01.869 Structures into my life where I have consistent sessions with healers and mentors and coaches and guides, because otherwise I know that the days could fill up and then I'm not filling my cup with the healing that got me here in the first place. 00:23:01.869 --> 00:23:05.671 So, In the Sound Healers Academy, that's something that is built in. 00:23:05.971 --> 00:23:22.951 You are required in order to get your certification to attend a certain number of sound baths during

training, you know, and you are required to have a daily personal practice meditating and playing your bowls, because if you are not embodying the healing for yourself, how do you expect to build a business? 00:23:23.401 --> 00:23:24.090 Absolutely. 00:23:24.570 --> 00:23:24.931 Yeah. 00:23:24.961 --> 00:23:25.351 Yeah. 00:23:25.800 --> 00:23:29.520 And that's one other thing I've noticed, and you were mentioning that you. 00:23:30.101 --> 00:23:38.080 I'd like to talk about a little bit about that imposter syndrome, and if you ever felt that when you were starting, because you said you didn't really do any formal training initially. 00:23:38.086 --> 00:23:41.411 It was just learning by mentoring off someone, mentoring through someone else. 00:23:41.859 --> 00:23:48.820 And I know from my fact that I'll, yes, I've sat down and I've done trainings with you and with Lyn and with Heather Jean. 00:23:49.200 --> 00:23:55.530 A lot of my own experience has always come from my own practice and being with the bowls and working with them going, oh, that's a new song. 00:23:55.530 --> 00:24:00.211 Well, that sounds like, you know, not getting bogged down in like the nitty gritty of how do I play them? 00:24:00.211 --> 00:24:01.590 What is the right way to play them? 00:24:01.596 --> 00:24:05.490 But experiencing them all in my own has built me. 00:24:05.895 --> 00:24:07.276 Who I am as a healer. 00:24:07.546 --> 00:24:16.006 And I'm just wondering, like did you ever have times where you were like, oh my goodness, I'm about to lead a sound bath and I feel like I'm the biggest imposter, like I don't even know what I'm doing. 00:24:16.276 --> 00:24:17.175 Has that ever happened? 00:24:17.175 --> 00:24:29.625 Because that's often one mindset thing that holds people back from taking action or showing up or doing the thing is that they don't feel like they know enough or they haven't done the right training to be able to do what they're doing. 00:24:30.359 --> 00:24:31.050 A hundred percent. 00:24:31.050 --> 00:24:42.359 And I think this is something that's so important to speak into, and it's just an example of, you know, the age we live and the age of Aquarius, it's no longer about like knowing the information that someone else has taught you. 00:24:42.359 --> 00:24:43.711 It's about embodying it. 00:24:43.711 --> 00:24:45.691 It's about your own personal experience. 00:24:45.721 --> 00:24:49.260 And I have felt that, of course, I've had those thoughts come up. 00:24:49.431 --> 00:24:51.869 There have been times where I'm like, how did I get here? 00:24:51.869 --> 00:24:53.760 Are they gonna figure out that I'm a fraud dude? 00:24:53.790 --> 00:24:54.990 Do I even know what I'm doing? 00:24:54.990 --> 00:24:55.560 You know? 00:24:56.175 --> 00:24:59.266 And in those moments, there's two things that ground me. 00:24:59.685 --> 00:25:12.195 First of all, knowing that this has helped me so much knowing for myself the power of sound, because I have experienced it,

you know, and at this point I have also experienced how it can help. 00:25:12.195 --> 00:25:12.256 I. 00:25:12.570 --> 00:25:14.611 Thousands and millions of other people. 00:25:14.611 --> 00:25:16.800 I've seen that through the sound bots that I've shared. 00:25:16.800 --> 00:25:21.240 So I remind myself like, Susie, this has helped you and look how many people it's helped already. 00:25:21.601 --> 00:25:22.740 You've got this right. 00:25:23.131 --> 00:25:26.070 And then the other side that really helps me in those moments is like, I. 00:25:26.550 --> 00:25:27.570 I'm here to help. 00:25:27.780 --> 00:25:31.980 You know, like I'm here with the pure intention of being of service, and it's not about me. 00:25:31.980 --> 00:25:34.530 It's not about how I look, how I sound, my ego. 00:25:34.536 --> 00:25:36.631 It's like, can I help one person? 00:25:37.080 --> 00:25:39.871 Can I shift the focus away from me to someone else? 00:25:39.871 --> 00:25:52.471 And if someone is able to take an hour out of their busy day, their stressed out life, their panic, their dis-ease, their disharmony, any of it, and lie down and receive, I. 00:25:53.385 --> 00:26:02.550 That's a beautiful thing, and my hope is that even if I can help one person to relax, Then I can help make the world a better place. 00:26:02.851 --> 00:26:04.380 Absolutely, absolutely. 00:26:04.380 --> 00:26:18.210 And that's one thing I love being able to highlight in the sound baths, is that this is just you in this moment in time, and this could be a really small moment in time in your life or within your day or within your week, but. 00:26:18.415 --> 00:26:28.586 How nice is it just to be here right now and everything is blurring into the background so you can just be here and receive and isn't it incredible how many people come up afterwards and say, wow, my mind just stopped. 00:26:28.586 --> 00:26:32.726 I stopped thinking or I fell asleep, because that's what they needed in that moment. 00:26:33.236 --> 00:26:43.195 And then knowing that because they've rested that they've done something where they've received, they've actually able to regenerate their energy to go out and do other things later on. 00:26:43.905 --> 00:26:44.175 Yep. 00:26:44.385 --> 00:26:45.316 It's so true. 00:26:45.405 --> 00:26:46.246 It's so true. 00:26:46.546 --> 00:26:59.415 Well, and the other thing that I'll say about this and the imposter syndrome and what I see happen a lot, especially in the wellness space, but in the world in general, is people feeling like I need another certificate and another certificate and another certificate, and I. 00:26:59.871 --> 00:27:04.221 At what point are you gonna give yourself permission to do what you know you were born to do? 00:27:04.401 --> 00:27:10.191 And I think it's important and it's responsible and it's ethical to make sure that you are properly trained and educated. 00:27:10.280 --> 00:27:16.760 And at the end of the day, it's not about the certificate, it's about you experiencing and embodying the work for yourself. 00:27:16.790 --> 00:27:27.351 So over the years, having studied and trained with many, many mentors, I do feel qualified and I know that I am able to share healing and help people. 00:27:27.976 --> 00:27:43.305 I have put the time in, you know, I have really not only shown up for myself in my own personal practice and experience the benefits of sound healing, receiving healings and practicing myself, but also like doing that due diligence and, and really having the experience. 00:27:43.310 --> 00:27:50.234 So I think for people who are seeking like another certification and another certification, that's not necessarily the answer. 00:27:50.234 --> 00:27:53.655 It's really like, What are you here to do? 00:27:53.746 --> 00:27:57.766 Like you're here to help in this space, in the healing space, like you're here to help. 00:27:57.766 --> 00:28:03.736 And so make sure that you're properly trained and that you have a team supporting you, and go out there and do it. 00:28:03.796 --> 00:28:06.796 Don't wait for like the 15th piece of paper on the wall. 00:28:07.560 --> 00:28:11.340 No, and I think that's exactly what you said, like the experiences on yourself. 00:28:11.671 --> 00:28:13.681 We never know exactly. 00:28:13.770 --> 00:28:16.560 I'll never know exactly what my soundbars sound like. 00:28:16.681 --> 00:28:21.211 I mean, I can listen to a recording, but to actually be the person to receive, that's not me. 00:28:21.240 --> 00:28:25.980 Like without being me is I'm never gonna know, but I'm only going to know. 00:28:26.425 --> 00:28:31.226 What it's gonna be like for someone else by doing the sound bath, by practicing. 00:28:31.286 --> 00:28:42.086 Whether it's just one-on-one or whether it's just De Francois or whether it's like to a small group, I'm only gonna know what's gonna happen, how to do things, how to make things like slightly better in terms of the setup and all those kind of things. 00:28:42.236 --> 00:28:49.885 But just know exactly what the experience is by doing it and showing up to do it, as well as what you said, doing the work on yourself. 00:28:49.885 --> 00:28:58.590 So if every day doing my meditation, doing some sound bowl playing, Reading all those things, practicing on my own energy. 00:28:58.770 --> 00:29:01.410 I'm only gonna know and experience those things by doing it. 00:29:01.680 --> 00:29:04.471 And as well as what you said, and I know I'm being guilty of it. 00:29:04.471 --> 00:29:05.880 I know I've been guilty of it. 00:29:05.880 --> 00:29:10.890 And particularly in those early days of when I was learning sound bath healing, it was like, oh, I've learned this. 00:29:10.895 --> 00:29:12.300 I've done that certification. 00:29:12.901 --> 00:29:14.250 I still feel like I need to know more. 00:29:14.280 --> 00:29:15.451 I still feel like I don't know enough. 00:29:15.451 --> 00:29:17.790 I still feel like I've got to learn from somebody else. 00:29:17.790 -->

00:29:31.830 And rather than just sitting in the playing and letting the bowls talk to me to understand exactly, ah, and then often I found that once I've gone and done the certification, I'm like, oh, I actually already knew that my bowls were already telling me that in the first place. 00:29:31.830 --> 00:29:34.111 Like, why did I not distrust myself? 00:29:34.351 --> 00:29:34.530 Yes. 00:29:34.711 --> 00:29:37.201 And that's another thing is it's not black or white, right? 00:29:37.201 --> 00:29:37.500 Like. 00:29:37.830 --> 00:29:44.010 It's so important for me, like I am so committed to always learning, always growing, always improving. 00:29:44.010 --> 00:29:47.130 And I think many people on this path are seekers, right? 00:29:47.135 --> 00:29:49.230 Like we want to be the best we possibly can. 00:29:49.230 --> 00:29:50.941 We're committed to a path of growth. 00:29:50.941 --> 00:29:55.411 And so remembering that on that path, There is no finish line. 00:29:55.441 --> 00:29:57.240 There's no finish line to our healing. 00:29:57.240 --> 00:29:58.859 There's no finish line to our learning. 00:29:58.859 --> 00:30:00.211 There's no finish line to our growth. 00:30:00.211 --> 00:30:09.810 And so to not wait, right, to not wait until you're ready to not wait until you've fully healed or fully awakened to help people, right? 00:30:09.810 --> 00:30:10.080 Mm-hmm. 00:30:10.080 --> 00:30:12.796 So, Like taking that. 00:30:13.006 --> 00:30:15.945 Yeah, taking that pressure off yourself and just going for it. 00:30:15.945 --> 00:30:18.766 And that's another big element of the sounding Lewis Academy. 00:30:18.766 --> 00:30:26.056 Not only are you required to attend sound baths, starting from very early on in training, we're saying you need to start leading one-on-one sessions. 00:30:26.086 --> 00:30:30.905 This is how, and we're gonna give you feedback and we're gonna write reflections on it, and we're gonna support you in it. 00:30:31.155 --> 00:30:32.234 But you need to start doing that. 00:30:32.234 --> 00:30:33.796 Don't wait until after you've graduated. 00:30:33.796 --> 00:30:35.296 And same thing with group sessions. 00:30:35.300 --> 00:30:35.556 Mm-hmm. 00:30:35.635 --> 00:30:36.435 What does it feel like? 00:30:36.435 --> 00:30:37.096 What do you like? 00:30:37.096 --> 00:30:38.056 What are you inspired by? 00:30:38.056 --> 00:30:39.105 Like what were your takeaways? 00:30:39.105 --> 00:30:40.484 What would you do different next time? 00:30:41.025 --> 00:30:41.056 Mm. 00:30:41.056 --> 00:30:42.826 But, or holding your hand as you do it. 00:30:42.826 --> 00:30:48.076 Because I think a lot of times people graduate from a weekend long training or a month long training, and you're like, I. 00:30:48.300 --> 00:30:49.920 Oh yeah, I'll do it next month. 00:30:49.920 --> 00:30:51.300 I'll do it when I have an audience. 00:30:51.300 --> 00:30:53.250 And it's like, no, just do it now. 00:30:53.250 --> 00:30:54.330 Do it for your husband. 00:30:54.359 -->

00:30:55.260 Do it for your family. 00:30:55.260 --> 00:30:56.369 Do it for your best friend. 00:30:56.640 --> 00:31:07.471 Do it for whoever will listen so that you can then get that confidence within yourself that you are the only one who can give yourself permission to declare yourself a master of your craft, right? 00:31:07.476 --> 00:31:07.530 Mm-hmm. 00:31:07.535 --> 00:31:13.441 To put yourself out there and share the gift that you know in your heart and soul you were born to share. 00:31:13.500 --> 00:31:17.040 The world needs your gifts and the only one holding you back is you. 00:31:17.655 --> 00:31:18.765 Yeah, absolutely. 00:31:19.005 --> 00:31:20.115 Oh, 100%. 00:31:20.476 --> 00:31:22.726 The only person that does hold you back is yourself. 00:31:22.755 --> 00:31:28.201 And then as you said, Because you are holding yourself back. 00:31:28.201 --> 00:31:29.550 You're not there to help other people. 00:31:29.550 --> 00:31:36.869 Like what if that one person just needed your sound bath on that day, that put them on their path of whatever it was meant to be? 00:31:36.869 --> 00:31:38.911 That's to be their best version. 00:31:38.911 --> 00:31:41.070 Or they're in alignment with who they're meant to be. 00:31:41.250 --> 00:31:47.310 You know what if it was that one person that really needed you at that moment in time and you were like, oh, I'm too scared to do my soundbar today. 00:31:47.490 --> 00:31:49.711 And I know we do have to sometimes psych ourselves up. 00:31:49.711 --> 00:31:50.250 We have to. 00:31:50.355 --> 00:31:53.296 Take the confidence and know that we are gonna be okay. 00:31:53.296 --> 00:32:06.615 And I think what you've just said in terms of in the Sound Healers Academy, your sound healing training, that being able to support people as they go through that is so precious and so important because it gives 'em the confidence, doesn't it? 00:32:06.615 --> 00:32:15.705 Knowing that they're being supported in a really friendly and great way, rather than just jumping off the deep end and at the end of the training and not doing it. 00:32:16.425 --> 00:32:16.875 Yeah. 00:32:16.965 --> 00:32:17.236 Yeah. 00:32:17.236 --> 00:32:18.707 And that's why I created it that way. 00:32:18.711 --> 00:32:19.036 Mm-hmm. 00:32:19.121 --> 00:32:28.036 And for myself and my own experience, like, because I did not take a formal training that was structured where you're in this container and you're having this support. 00:32:28.036 --> 00:32:35.415 Like I had to constantly be reaching out and seeking and building my community and taking on another mentor and bringing in a lawyer and this and that. 00:32:35.415 --> 00:32:36.736 And first of all, it's. 00:32:37.195 --> 00:32:40.316 Very expensive to build your own like training of life. 00:32:40.705 --> 00:32:44.275 And second of all, it takes a lot of work to consciously say like, what do I need next? 00:32:44.275 --> 00:32:45.145 What do I need next? 00:32:45.145 --> 00:32:51.505 And so when

I created that training, I thought, what are all the elements that I brought into my path that helped me to succeed? 00:32:51.505 --> 00:33:03.806 And how can I bring that in the training where there is the community, there's also mentors, there's different teachers and master classes and practices, and it's all condensed into three months, but then there's ongoing support even after you graduate, like mm-hmm. 00:33:04.935 --> 00:33:12.555 You receive everything you need without having to figure it out, because I think a lot of people get on this path and feel the calling in their soul and. 00:33:13.005 --> 00:33:14.086 There's no roadmap. 00:33:14.265 --> 00:33:16.455 No one's like, these are the steps that you take. 00:33:16.455 --> 00:33:17.806 This is what you do next. 00:33:17.806 --> 00:33:22.185 And then a lot of times when you're going through it, you're also going through a spiritual awakening. 00:33:22.191 --> 00:33:27.286 And the people you've known, your friends, your family, are no longer like resonating with you in the same way. 00:33:27.290 --> 00:33:29.115 And you're like, who can I connect with? 00:33:29.476 --> 00:33:30.675 Who understands this? 00:33:30.681 --> 00:33:30.885 Right? 00:33:30.885 --> 00:33:31.786 Am I losing my mind? 00:33:32.925 --> 00:33:36.734 I'm obsessed with these beautiful stinging bulls that some people think are VAEs. 00:33:36.734 --> 00:33:39.915 They don't know what they are, but like I, oh my goodness, they're the power to help. 00:33:40.306 --> 00:33:40.605 Right? 00:33:40.605 --> 00:33:42.494 And so to then say, okay. 00:33:43.020 --> 00:33:43.980 Who else gets it? 00:33:44.010 --> 00:33:46.111 Who are my people on this path, right? 00:33:46.111 --> 00:33:47.971 Like who's my soul family? 00:33:48.330 --> 00:33:50.401 It's so important to have that. 00:33:50.401 --> 00:33:56.820 So you know you're not alone and you have people who are cheering you on as you serve in the way that you were born to. 00:33:57.615 --> 00:34:00.286 That's so incredible that you've created a training like that. 00:34:00.346 --> 00:34:04.755 That is a unique kind of training, but it's all encompassing as well, the Sound Healers Academy. 00:34:04.786 --> 00:34:08.596 'cause you're not learning just how to play the balls, but you're learning how to build the business around it as well. 00:34:08.596 --> 00:34:18.735 Which, like you said, it's one thing to learn our training, but then to learn the business side of things, which you and I know nobody's built with the how to do any of this stuff. 00:34:19.081 --> 00:34:26.431 When we're born, I mean, we are witnessing what our babies learn on a day-to-day basis, you know, and all their little neural pathways and all the things. 00:34:26.431 --> 00:34:29.581 But they're not born, they haven't learned how to do business. 00:34:29.581 --> 00:34:33.630 They're only gonna learn business through watching their moms or whoever. 00:34:33.690 --> 00:34:35.400 And it's the same with like playing the singing balls. 00:34:35.405 --> 00:34:37.081 Nobody's born with singing bowl training. 00:34:37.085 --> 00:34:38.601 It's, you learn it as you go along. 00:34:38.621 --> 00:34:43.681 But to be in a place where you can have like that all in one encompassing, that's so important. 00:34:43.681 --> 00:34:54.646 And I will say that is great because, When I originally trained as a massage therapist years ago, it was all very much about how to do the training, how to take care of your client from start to finish. 00:34:54.885 --> 00:35:00.795 But there was only a small smidgen about starting business and about how to run a business and all the things about business. 00:35:00.795 --> 00:35:10.936 It was like a tiny component, and yeah, to have a training where you can be supported in both sides, that's really, that's a great, that's a great service that's been created by you. 00:35:11.596 --> 00:35:12.135 Thank you. 00:35:12.135 --> 00:35:13.994 Well, it's been incredible. 00:35:13.994 --> 00:35:21.346 I mean, we have almost 200 graduates at this point, and it's just been amazing to see where people take it, you know, because that was my experience too. 00:35:21.346 --> 00:35:35.545 And even in the past training that I had led was like a weekend of, you know, you learn this skill that changed your life and you wanna put it out there, but like, Not that many people in this space have necessarily gone to business school and have a business degree and understand that side of things. 00:35:35.545 --> 00:35:42.115 So to have absolutely an hour or a couple hours of a business module and then go out there on your own and do it, it's like, wait, what? 00:35:42.565 --> 00:35:44.576 So you have this skill and you don't know what to do with it. 00:35:44.576 --> 00:35:52.585 And I think that's also why so many people that are like, well, I'll take another certification, I'll take another certification, I'll take another training, looking for the business side. 00:35:52.585 --> 00:35:57.090 So I'm like, My intention in creating it was to say, this could be your last training. 00:35:57.119 --> 00:36:11.490 Like it probably won't be because we're seekers and we'll wanna continue to explore and grow, and you should, if you feel called, but you will graduate from this program with everything you need to be working in a studio, to be building your business, to have your clients. 00:36:11.494 --> 00:36:13.951 You don't need to wait for any more permission. 00:36:13.951 --> 00:36:14.760 You have it. 00:36:15.451 --> 00:36:15.811 Yeah. 00:36:15.811 --> 00:36:16.380 Amazing. 00:36:16.891 --> 00:36:19.471 Where do you see like soundbar healings going? 00:36:19.501 --> 00:36:21.690 Because the sound healing in itself is not new. 00:36:21.721 --> 00:36:22.681 It's ancient. 00:36:22.920 --> 00:36:35.791 Like there's been tribes, there's been civilizations that have used sound healing in some shape or form for so many years, but now it seems to be coming like in a

western world sort of popularity. 00:36:35.940 --> 00:36:36.960 Where do you see it going? 00:36:36.960 --> 00:36:39.751 Do you have any insights or any thoughts about. 00:36:40.186 --> 00:36:42.315 This world that we live in, we work in. 00:36:44.146 --> 00:36:44.476 Yes. 00:36:44.476 --> 00:36:48.945 I mean, I agree with what you shared and what you observed, which is that it's becoming more and more mainstream. 00:36:48.951 --> 00:36:55.576 So I think just as 20 years ago, people were kind of like meditation or like yoga, you know? 00:36:55.815 --> 00:37:01.476 And right now, There's many people who are aware of sound healing, but there's more people who are like, sound healing. 00:37:01.806 --> 00:37:10.326 I think it's gonna become more of an obvious tool in everyone's toolbox where, you know, people know I'm feeling anxious, let me pop on a sound bath. 00:37:10.385 --> 00:37:12.635 Or you know, it's Friday night. 00:37:13.335 --> 00:37:17.835 I'm not necessarily gonna go to a club, I'm gonna go to a sound bath and I'm gonna connect in a different way. 00:37:17.894 --> 00:37:24.496 So I think they're gonna become more and more mainstream, which is so beautiful, and I think they'll become more and more accessible to people. 00:37:24.500 --> 00:37:28.925 You know, the fact that you can experience it virtually is a gift, but I think that I. 00:37:28.925 --> 00:37:36.726 And what I see and what I've experienced through the students that I've worked with and just witnessing the industry grow, like people all over the world are sharing it. 00:37:36.726 --> 00:37:40.356 So you don't necessarily need to travel to LA or get on a virtual sound bath. 00:37:40.360 --> 00:37:43.025 There will be sound healers in your local town, and I. 00:37:43.335 --> 00:37:49.065 I also see it expanding in a mainstream way in the sense that celebrities are working with singing bowls. 00:37:49.065 --> 00:37:51.945 You know, I recorded an album with Leanne Rimes, Janae Aiko. 00:37:51.945 --> 00:37:54.766 She plays them in her albums and she sells her own sound bowls. 00:37:54.766 --> 00:38:03.226 Now, there's so many people who are now incorporating it into their work, whether we know it or not, you'll hear singing bowls in mainstream music. 00:38:03.496 --> 00:38:03.585 Mm-hmm. 00:38:03.766 --> 00:38:05.835 So I think that's a part of it. 00:38:05.835 --> 00:38:09.045 And then I also, for myself, and I know that there's. 00:38:09.601 --> 00:38:14.791 Other sound healers out there who hold big visions for themselves of sharing large sound baths. 00:38:14.791 --> 00:38:19.951 Like I see myself on the stage at Madison Square Garden, and I've played at the Hollywood Bowl in la. 00:38:19.981 --> 00:38:24.090 But I see myself going back there and traveling around the world and sharing sound baths. 00:38:24.150 --> 00:38:29.130 Just as you would go to a concert, you would go to a sound bath at a major arena. 00:38:29.130 --> 00:38:30.360 So, oh my goodness. 00:38:30.360 --> 00:38:32.820 I get so much great confirmation over that vision. 00:38:32.931 --> 00:38:34.280 Susie, you hold onto that one. 00:38:34.280 --> 00:38:34.971 That's beautiful. 00:38:35.170 --> 00:38:35.851 I love it. 00:38:37.371 --> 00:38:38.210 I love it. 00:38:38.210 --> 00:38:38.451 Yeah. 00:38:38.451 --> 00:38:39.050 That's amazing. 00:38:39.050 --> 00:38:40.371 So I think it's continue to grow. 00:38:40.371 --> 00:38:43.581 You know, people are waking up to the power of sound in a conscious way. 00:38:45.331 --> 00:39:01.110 And lastly, before we finish, I'd love for you to share what are some of the meditations or the energy healing techniques or modalities that you are currently using within for yourself personally and to help you within your business because, which is something that I love. 00:39:01.115 --> 00:39:02.851 I mean, I've actually really started. 00:39:02.860 --> 00:39:05.860 Getting back into the ego eradicator, the breath of fire. 00:39:06.371 --> 00:39:11.891 I was talking to a Yumi about it the other day and I said, I just had this feeling that I needed to start practicing that again. 00:39:12.221 --> 00:39:25.900 And I think because I'm not in a place where it's not saying that in your training that it was forced in any way, shape, or form, but because it's in a way where it's more voluntary and like I've experienced it, I know the benefits of it and I'm coming back to it. 00:39:26.505 --> 00:39:31.335 When I'm not doing it in the mornings or in my day, I'm like, wow, I'm really, really, really missing it. 00:39:31.335 --> 00:39:35.025 Like I'm really craving it at the moment and doing it again. 00:39:35.445 --> 00:39:38.175 I'm feeling so much more expansion than I ever had before. 00:39:38.235 --> 00:39:40.485 It's probably all the things that have shifted in my life. 00:39:40.516 --> 00:39:41.235 But yeah. 00:39:41.240 --> 00:39:48.286 I'd love for you to share like some of either some of your favorite ones or what you're currently doing at this moment in time to support yourself and your business. 00:39:48.706 --> 00:39:52.065 I love that question, and Igor Eradicator is such a good one. 00:39:52.065 --> 00:39:54.585 I love that, and I'm coming back to that myself right now. 00:39:54.585 --> 00:39:55.576 It's something that I always do. 00:39:55.576 --> 00:39:56.385 I took a little break. 00:39:56.385 --> 00:40:01.846 I was recently moving through a healing experience, but that did not allow me to do it physically. 00:40:01.846 --> 00:40:06.706 But coming back to that, yeah, I'm really stepping back into Kundalini in a deeper way right now. 00:40:06.710 --> 00:40:16.815 The past year for me, becoming a mom required much more of a feminine energy and a flow of my practice, which looked more like snuggles and meditation in bed. 00:40:17.516 --> 00:40:25.885 Yet, like I really know and see the value in having a structured practice and Kundalini brings in a masculine energy that supports the feminine energy flowing.

00:40:25.891 --> 00:40:29.876 So getting back to sitting on my sheepskin Igor Eradicator. 00:40:29.876 --> 00:40:36.715 To start off, I just today began a new Sona of chanting, a mantra called Long Egon Cars. 00:40:37.755 --> 00:40:40.286 If you're listen to this, you can look it, it's. 00:40:41.519 --> 00:40:44.731 E K o n g k a r s. 00:40:45.150 --> 00:40:46.201 It's a morning call chant. 00:40:46.201 --> 00:40:57.090 It's a chant for the aquarium age, and it can really help you to sort of slow down and bend time and feel more grounded through all the shifts and changes that you're navigating in life. 00:40:57.186 --> 00:40:58.146 So I'm doing that. 00:40:58.206 --> 00:40:58.295 Oh wow. 00:40:58.295 --> 00:40:59.885 I'm definitely taking a note of that one. 00:40:59.885 --> 00:41:00.965 Yeah, it's really good. 00:41:01.025 --> 00:41:01.956 It's really good. 00:41:01.956 --> 00:41:03.365 And you can look it up online. 00:41:03.365 --> 00:41:05.255 You can find a teacher, you can connect with me. 00:41:05.255 --> 00:41:11.556 You can find a mantra on Spotify or iTunes where you can listen and just basically chant along. 00:41:11.945 --> 00:41:13.266 But I love that one. 00:41:13.326 --> 00:41:17.465 Another one that I always come back to is Tantric Car Prosperity Mantra. 00:41:17.795 --> 00:41:18.786 We did that one together. 00:41:18.786 --> 00:41:23.465 That's the HUD with the mudra, and that opens up so much abundance. 00:41:23.826 --> 00:41:26.766 We're doing that run right now in the Sound Healers Academy and Oh, brilliant. 00:41:27.510 --> 00:41:28.139 That's so good. 00:41:28.559 --> 00:41:34.769 I just like, I've been getting checks in the mail unexpectedly, like crazy opportunities coming in. 00:41:34.769 --> 00:41:37.170 Earlier today I got an aloe gift certificate in my inbox. 00:41:37.170 --> 00:41:38.460 I'm like, where did this come from? 00:41:38.460 --> 00:41:43.559 So like it opens you up to so much prosperity and opportunities and I love that one. 00:41:43.650 --> 00:41:44.731 What else do I love right now? 00:41:45.420 --> 00:41:46.349 Reiki healing. 00:41:46.356 --> 00:41:48.750 Receiving reiki healing has been huge. 00:41:48.809 --> 00:41:48.900 Mm-hmm. 00:41:49.170 --> 00:41:54.451 It's so important to see as a healer and carving out time for that. 00:41:54.481 --> 00:41:57.090 So, That's something that's huge. 00:41:57.150 --> 00:42:00.329 Receiving body work is something that I'm committed to. 00:42:00.420 --> 00:42:10.559 I've been doing like once a week right now, and I know that's not necessarily available to everyone, but I think having a practice of incorporating that as a priority into your life and moving the energy in a physical way, I. 00:42:10.905 --> 00:42:17.596 The last one that's really simple, but it's a huge impact, is walking. 00:42:18.076 --> 00:42:20.686 Walking every day, doing a walking meditation. 00:42:20.686 --> 00:42:27.106 So I'll walk for at least 30 minutes and I'll take that time to really breathe and ground and be present. 00:42:27.110 --> 00:42:28.425 Look at my surroundings. 00:42:28.981 --> 00:42:30.061 Check in with myself. 00:42:30.061 --> 00:42:32.251 Sometimes I'll, you know, connect with someone else. 00:42:32.251 --> 00:42:41.041 We'll walk together and I feel like it really gets my wheels turning in juices flowing and gets me out of my head and into my body in a beautiful way. 00:42:41.041 --> 00:42:43.260 And that is so accessible to all of us. 00:42:43.266 --> 00:42:49.050 You know, there's so many studies about the power of walking, and it's an easy meditation that anyone can do. 00:42:49.800 --> 00:42:51.389 I loved, um, on Instagram. 00:42:51.389 --> 00:42:52.829 I think it was on stories the other day. 00:42:52.829 --> 00:42:55.769 You shared a hike you were doing with Mark and Baby Jack. 00:42:55.769 --> 00:42:55.829 Yeah. 00:42:56.309 --> 00:43:02.099 And he was in like, he was in the baby carrier, but Mark was wearing it like a little backpack and I'm like, oh, that looks so cute. 00:43:02.490 --> 00:43:03.900 Look at the, them going for a walk. 00:43:03.900 --> 00:43:04.829 I love it. 00:43:04.829 --> 00:43:06.659 Jack looked like he was having a grand old time. 00:43:07.059 --> 00:43:07.420 I know. 00:43:08.210 --> 00:43:08.500 Good. 00:43:08.500 --> 00:43:09.340 Had such time. 00:43:09.539 --> 00:43:14.460 Yeah, and it's not, I mean, it's not always realistic for me to get out in nature every day, but. 00:43:14.780 --> 00:43:15.681 I do when I can. 00:43:15.681 --> 00:43:19.340 I try to do a hike in nature, go to a park somewhere here in la. 00:43:19.340 --> 00:43:25.311 Otherwise, if that's not possible, you know, if I truly only have 30 minutes, I'll walk in my neighborhood and just connect. 00:43:25.340 --> 00:43:26.510 It's so important. 00:43:26.840 --> 00:43:27.440 Absolutely. 00:43:27.500 --> 00:43:28.190 I love that. 00:43:28.400 --> 00:43:40.101 Such a great reminder that something simple as walking, like we don't need to have a profound meditation experience or be a Reiki healer, or if that's not available to you, but just going outside to walk. 00:43:40.576 --> 00:43:41.655 And to connect to nature. 00:43:41.655 --> 00:43:46.005 And I'm assuming like you're walking without, like headphones without distraction. 00:43:46.005 --> 00:43:46.096 Mm-hmm. 00:43:46.096 --> 00:43:49.215 You're just walking as you are, as if technology didn't exist. 00:43:49.815 --> 00:43:50.175 Yeah. 00:43:50.175 --> 00:43:56.775 And that's, I would say, like my personal practice takeaway right now is do what works for you. 00:43:56.835 --> 00:43:58.306 It doesn't have to, to be black and white. 00:43:58.306 --> 00:44:03.914 It doesn't have to be like a perfect hour sitting in stillness, silent meditation in order for you to receive the benefits. 00:44:03.914 --> 00:44:07.621 But like, Take what works for you and then commit to it. 00:44:07.710 --> 00:44:07.951 Right? 00:44:07.951 --> 00:44:11.851 So give yourself the

opportunity and for you what you shared, which I love about Igor Eradicator, right? 00:44:11.851 --> 00:44:13.201 Like it feels like coming home. 00:44:13.201 --> 00:44:18.451 And that's because for six months you were in a container where you practiced it, you were held accountable. 00:44:18.451 --> 00:44:18.541 Mm-hmm. 00:44:18.780 --> 00:44:19.800 And committed to doing it. 00:44:19.806 --> 00:44:22.981 So that's something that you can always come back to. 00:44:23.130 --> 00:44:29.519 And same for me with my commitment that I've just made to doing long Eck on cars for the next 40 days, like, I don't wake up. 00:44:29.550 --> 00:44:34.380 Similar to what I was saying about when you become an entrepreneur and you leave your job, I don't wake up saying, oh, what do I do today? 00:44:34.380 --> 00:44:35.731 Which meditation do I choose? 00:44:35.731 --> 00:44:36.391 How do I begin? 00:44:36.391 --> 00:44:39.750 It's like, oh, I sit down, I tune in. 00:44:40.019 --> 00:44:44.041 I do ego eradicator, I do tantric car and I do long echo cars. 00:44:44.041 --> 00:44:46.621 And that takes me all of 20 minutes, you know? 00:44:46.621 --> 00:44:51.150 And from there, my day is set up for so much success. 00:44:51.150 --> 00:44:51.420 Absolutely. 00:44:51.481 --> 00:44:53.400 And then when I have time, I go for a walk. 00:44:53.400 --> 00:44:58.485 So I think like, The combination of commitment, the combination of. 00:44:58.965 --> 00:45:05.085 Sitting still, the combination of moving and then also bringing sound into it, like mm-hmm. 00:45:05.085 --> 00:45:14.025 When we work with sound, whether it's playing bowls, whether it's using your human instrument, which even as a sound healer, you know, teaching crystal same bowls, I deeply believe that I. 00:45:14.329 --> 00:45:19.250 The most powerful instrument for healing we can ever use is our own voice, right? 00:45:19.250 --> 00:45:19.340 Mm-hmm. 00:45:19.579 --> 00:45:32.059 So without judgment of how it sounds, just chanting, using your voice, activating yourself in that way, and having a commitment to something that you can show up for every day, and let that be the foundation of your day and the foundation of your life. 00:45:32.750 --> 00:45:33.050 Yeah. 00:45:33.500 --> 00:45:33.769 Amazing. 00:45:34.250 --> 00:45:34.820 I love that. 00:45:34.851 --> 00:45:36.411 Thank you so much for sharing. 00:45:37.289 --> 00:45:43.500 Your insights of everything today from soundbars to the mindset around creating business. 00:45:43.500 --> 00:45:50.221 There's so many golden points within all of that, and then sharing your meditation, practice what you're doing to take care of yourself. 00:45:50.490 --> 00:45:52.619 I really appreciate your time being here, Susie. 00:45:52.679 --> 00:45:53.789 It's been such a pleasure. 00:45:54.150 --> 00:45:56.070 I feel like we could just continue talking all day. 00:45:56.070 --> 00:45:56.280 You need to. 00:45:58.914 --> 00:46:02.815 I was like, oh, let's just go to a cafe now and get a match arrow and we can just continue talking. 00:46:02.815 --> 00:46:05.036 Hey, truly, truly, no. 00:46:05.036 --> 00:46:15.775 And I love you and I'm so grateful and honored to be here with you today, and it's so wonderful to connect and to chat, and you have such a beautiful light that you shine and the impact that you make. 00:46:15.775 --> 00:46:18.025 And thank you for letting me be a part of your journey. 00:46:18.115 --> 00:46:18.954 Oh, amazing. 00:46:18.954 --> 00:46:19.826 I'm looking forward. 00:46:19.826 --> 00:46:22.856 My vision is Susie, that one day we will meet together. 00:46:23.141 --> 00:46:26.740 With our babies, and as I said, oh, they could be toddlers by then. 00:46:26.769 --> 00:46:28.811 Maybe they'll be like, as you said then pen pals. 00:46:29.289 --> 00:46:29.440 Yes. 00:46:30.039 --> 00:46:31.061 Maybe you'll be in Sedona. 00:46:31.061 --> 00:46:31.960 Maybe you'll be at Mount Sha. 00:46:32.351 --> 00:46:34.690 Maybe you'll be at a beautiful coffee shop in LA somewhere. 00:46:34.690 --> 00:46:37.360 But I look forward to that moment in time, honestly. 00:46:37.365 --> 00:46:38.851 But thank you so much for being on the podcast. 00:46:40.539 --> 00:46:43.990 So excited, so happy, and I'm sure I'll have you on again at some stage in the future. 00:46:44.740 --> 00:46:46.601 But thank you and enjoy your day. 00:46:47.065 --> 00:46:47.576 Thank you. 00:46:49.525 --> 00:46:53.695 Thank you so much for tuning in and listening to today's episode. 00:46:54.445 --> 00:47:00.896 Please rate and review this podcast so that it can continue to thrive and reach more listeners. 00:47:02.126 --> 00:47:15.686 I love to know who my listeners are, so please screenshot this episode and tag me on Instagram at Anna f Hasty, and I look forward to connecting with you in the next episode.