# David Schnurman

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#161 Grand Juries Gone Wild: A White Collar Lawyer Tells All

Jennifer McCoy just watched a federal investigation into her client vanish without explanation, the second one this year. It's a small mercy in an unusually turbulent moment for white collar law, one she says she's never seen in her career. In this episode of Lawyers Who Learn, host David Schnurma…

#162 From the FBI's Counterterrorism Unit to Quantum Computing's Biggest Threat

Brett Tanferani spent 21 years at the FBI chasing espionage and counterterrorism threats. Now he's sounding the alarm on something bigger: Q Day, the moment quantum computing renders modern encryption obsolete, may have just arrived. In this episode of Lawyers Who Learn, host David Schnurman, CEO …

#163 Boards, Boatlifts, and Watergate: One Lawyer's Improbable Story

Arlety crossed from Cuba to Miami as a young child during the Mariel boatlift, then built the kind of resume most lawyers only dream of: Yale Law School, seven years as a trusts and estates associate at Cravath, and now seats on four nonprofit boards. But her latest project may be her most unexpect…

#164 What Two Thousand Heart Surgeries Taught Him About Lawyer Burnout

Mark Brezzell spent ten years keeping patients alive during open heart surgery, managing over two thousand procedures as the bypass specialist who becomes, in his words, the patient's heart and lungs. Now he brings that same vascular expertise to a different kind of crisis, the chronic stress quiet…

#165 Welcome to the Wild, Wild West of Frozen Embryos

An estimated one million embryos are frozen in labs across the country, and the law is only beginning to catch up with what happens when the people who created them cannot agree on their fate. SJ Chapman has built their trust and estates practice at that intersection, tracking court decisions that …

#166 Solo by Design: Building a Business-First Law Practice

Jordan Fischer graduated law school in 2013, back when privacy wasn't even a course offering. Four years later, she left a stable litigation practice to co-found a data privacy and cybersecurity firm, a move people told her was crazy, since the field barely existed. Today it's one of the fastest-gr…

#167 From Nashville Songwriter to Global Trademark Strategist

Matthew Asbell spent his first two years of medical school putting recording studio time on credit cards, cutting an album one session a month. When the national boards and the record launch collided, he chose the music. He got his songs on radio across the country, then spent roughly a decade mana…

#168 From the Playground to the Boeing Case: An Aviation Lawyer's Unlikely Flight Path

Erin Applebaum was set on becoming a Brooklyn prosecutor until the 2010 recession froze hiring at the Kings County DA's office. Suddenly she was temping and working as a nanny for twenty dollars an hour. Then the family she nannied for introduced her to a solo aviation lawyer, and a stopgap job bec…

#170 It’s Not All About the Drug Level: A Toxicologist's Lessons for Lawyers

When Dr. Allison Muller shares with people in a room she's a toxicologist, it goes quiet. Some people picture her working at a crime scene, others in a laboratory. Neither is the case for her. Her career in toxicology has focused on patient care and teaching. A board-certified clinical toxicologist…

#172 Origin Story: From Carpool Duty to Cross-Border M&A

Arina Shulga left Cleary Gottlieb after seven years to raise her twins. Two weeks later, a friend asked for legal help, and she launched her own firm, working part time around her kids’ schedules. That detour delivered her to the cross-border M&A deals she’d dreamed about as a Penn Law student, on …