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For we are opposed around the world by a monolithic
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and ruthless conspiracy that relies primarily on covet means for
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expanding its sphere of influence, on infiltration instead of invasion,
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on subversion instead of elections, on intimidation instead of free choice,
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on guerrillas by night instead of armies by day. It
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is a system which has conscripted vast human and material
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resources into the building of a tightly knit, highly efficient
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machine that combines military, diplomatic, intelligence, economic, scientific, and political operations.
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Its preparations are concealed, not published. Its mistakes are buried,
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not headlined. Its dissenters are silent, not praised.
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That is by design. Because as long as we're fighting
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against each other, then the powers that be can kind
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of do whatever they want. The agencies can go rogue
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and do what they want. If we're fighting each other
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over these personality wars, it's a distraction from what's really
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going on. Imagine if we were all talking about what's
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our worldview? What do we believe? Why do we believe it?
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Hey guys, welcome to this episode of the Jeff Dornick Show.
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Thank you guys so much for tuning in. Again, we're
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catch the show on Freedom First Network's Rumble channel in
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addition to that. A couple of notes before we get started.
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Number one, this Tuesday for election night, we're going to
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be doing an election night special. So we're going to
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be doing a live stream starting at 6.30 p.m. Eastern.
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We've got a phenomenal lineup of people. We're going to
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be rotating guests throughout the entire night. And here's a
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sneak peek, and we've got more that are actually in
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the process of being confirmed. We've got Colonel Mike and Dr.
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Michael Scheuer from Two Mics. We've got Dustin Faulkner. We've
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got Mel Kay. We've got Annie Cyrus, Rachel Alexander, Vish Burra,
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Ted Rall, Rob Maness, Chad Caton, David Pollack from OAN, J.D. Hall,
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Mike Adams from Natural News. And we've got a bunch
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more that are in the process of confirming as well.
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So we're going to be having a massive show, a
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lot of guests, a lot of amazing commentary. as we
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get the results from the midterms coming up on Tuesday.
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So that'll be starting at 6.30 p.m. Eastern time. And
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it'll probably be going until probably, who knows, midnight. I
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have no idea whenever the results are coming in. So
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going to go ahead and bring on our guest for today,
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the one and only Sam Anthony from Your News. Welcome
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to the show, and glad we get to sit down
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here and chat for a bit.
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Jeff, it's been a while since I've been on. Probably
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two years. Good to see you.
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Yeah, you as well. You as well. I always enjoy
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chatting with you and talking and all that. And it's
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fascinating too with what you've built with your news. It's
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interesting because when you think about it, it's a very
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stark contrast between what the mainstream media is doing versus
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what you are doing. Because obviously you've got the national news,
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you've got all the normal stuff, but then you also
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go hyper-local in a way that nobody else is really doing.
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Like what what really inspired you to go down that route?
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And what's been what's been the experience of like, you know,
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the writers and creators and readers and all that kind
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of stuff?
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Well, first of all, it's it's decentralized news versus centralized news. OK,
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for starters, the hyper local police is the only way
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you can do it. So, you know, from from the
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business side, the legacy media is not going to survive.
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A lot of people think it's because they're lying has
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absolutely nothing to do with it. It's just an antiquated
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product because people consume information differently. So, you know, I'm
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61 years old. You know, I remember in 1990, we
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had three options, CNN, ABC and NBC.
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Right.
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Maybe MSN. I don't remember. Fox didn't come around to 96. Today,
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YouTube has 115 million channels, TikTok, Instagram. I mean, there's
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there's an endless supply of content creators that you didn't
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have before. So the, everything is moving to platforms, creator-based platforms.
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And the only way to create a hyper local news
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platform and to create a platform for news, it has
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to be hyper local because you need scale and you
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need to have millions of creators that are using your platform,
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which drives the audience. So for the, you know, look
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at this stage of the game, we're 20 years into
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creator-based platforms. So everybody knows the creators drive the audience.
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So just imagine having a website that has a million
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people that have their own page posting something on. Well,
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they're going to be telling people to go to their
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page to watch their show. It's self-promotion, right? You're just
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a platform. So the unique part about our business is
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the ability of how we publish content. So it looks
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like a daily newspaper, like the Chicago Tribune or Miami
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Herald on steroids. But from the standpoint of how it looks,
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you have all the same sections, sports, business, politics, entertainment.
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You have lifestyle, home and garden. Remember the lifestyle section,
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you had home and garden, food and wine, travel, health,
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you have all these different categories. So that's us. But
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we have the ability to be able to publish news
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right down to a specific city or a county or
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a market or state or regional or national. So the
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example would be the Monday night football game is national news,
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but somebody's little league game is not. It's city news specific,
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still sports news, but the distribution goes to whatever city
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that's in. And that's Now, because of the scale, because
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you have 20,000 cities in the United States, this is
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us estimating you probably excluding PR firms and nonprofits, which
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have content, and there's literally millions of them, and that's
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just in the United States. My guess is we'll probably
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need 50 monetized content creators per city. Certainly, New York
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is going to need more than Jupiter, Florida. One will
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probably need 500, and the other one will probably need 30.
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but I'm guessing about 50 people at Citi. So you're
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talking about a million news reporters. I mean, Jeff, we
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currently have over 6,000. So think about that, right? So
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there is no news outlet that has that many news
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reporters and it's completely decentralized. So I always tell people
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like you, I'm not in the news business, I'm in
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the platform business. And creators use platforms for distribution and monetization.
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That's it. So The old days of the brand being
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the Chicago Tribune, the Miami Herald, or the radio or
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TV station, that was the brand. They owned the audience.
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You worked for them. The model is reversed. The creator,
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Jeff Dornick, is the brand, and he uses Rumble or
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YouTube or whatever it is for distribution and monetization. So
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don't expect YouTube or Rumble to build your audience. You
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have to do it, right? And that's going to be
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the marketplace that decides the The good part is you're
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on a platform that has a lot of other people,
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so people can find you while they're looking at things.
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You know, like right now, we're on the front page
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of Rumble. Did you know that?
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No, I didn't know that.
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I just checked. Yeah, so we're on the front page. Yep.
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That's cool. So anybody hitting Rumble is going to see
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this right now.
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Right.
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And they're going to go, who's that good-looking guy in
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the red shirt? I got to watch that show. Yeah.
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Well, you know, and the thing is that it's, I
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think– it's been interesting because, and I've noticed this, you know,
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building out a social media platform where we're kind of
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taking the anti-algorithmic approach, whereas most of the other platforms
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are algorithm-based, which is, which makes it more of a topic-based,
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theme-based platform, as opposed to a community networking, social network,
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all that kind of stuff. And it's, and it's fascinating
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to me watching how, watching the conditioning from a lot
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of these platforms. And I know the same probably goes
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for in your industry as well, where They're almost training
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creators to rely on the platform for their traffic, for
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their views, for their monetization and all that. And
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what I've realized is that a lot of times it's
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very easy for creators to just post and ghost and like, hey,
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I did my job. I posted the content. I posted
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the article. Why is nobody seeing it? Like, Sam, why
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are you not driving traffic to my article when in
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reality it's like the whole– principle behind like something like
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what you're building and something like what i'm building with
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pickaxe is this idea of like we are giving you
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like a true meritocracy you can actually earn an audience
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you can keep an audience but you actually have to
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do something more than just produce the content but you
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also promote you retain you build community you build a
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following all of that and uh and i and i
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think it's one of those things where they're we're almost
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having to do a little bit of a retraining these
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days to take people back to the more meritocracy viewpoint
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as opposed to the entitlement viewpoint, if that makes sense.
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Well, I agree. And I will tell you this, the old,
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I call them the old guard, the people that used
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to work for the newspaper, because most of my content's
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written news. I mean, we do audio video, but it's
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mostly written content. It's the stuff you can't put on
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YouTube and TikTok and Instagram. But they're used to the paycheck.
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You know, they don't build an audience. So this to
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them is just, you know, it's like reading Greek, you know,
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they have no idea what to do. So I don't
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think a lot of them are going to survive. I
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think it's going to be all new people that have
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never been in the business before. I mean, hell, look
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at YouTube. I mean, how many people on YouTube have
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a broadcast degree? Do you have one?
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I'm not allowed on YouTube, so.
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But, you know, from a journalistic standpoint, I mean, in
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order to, well, if you wanted to be a broadcaster
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on NBC, you had to go to journalism school.
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Right.
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That ship has sailed. Anybody can become a broadcaster in
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the marketplace makes the decision. So in our case, if
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you want to become a local news reporter, I could
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care less if you have a journalism degree. Hell, if
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you want to set the bar, the media set it
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so low, anybody can do better. All you have to
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do is tell the truth, right? That's all you got
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to do. But the new people coming in, if they
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can't write, they could just go take notes and plug
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it into AI and have AI write a story. And
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once they get what they want, AI is just a tool.
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That's all it is. But if you're plugging in what
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you want it to say, make this look better as
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a news story. Once you get what you want, you
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can push that out to the public. And now you're
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a news reporter. So I don't know how many of
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them we have because people, most of the people I
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have have been in the news business, not all. But
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some of them haven't. And I saw a story the
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other day. It was somebody out of Lexington, the creators
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out of Lexington. And the story they wrote was out
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of Miami. And it was some rapper that just got
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arrested for battery to his wife or something like that, whatever.
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And I'm like, what is he doing? So I grabbed
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the title. I threw it into Google to see if
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it was a month old or whatever it was. There
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was one story. It was 26 minutes before that was
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breaking the story. So I said to him, where did
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you get this? How did you find this out? And
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he says, well, I instructed ChatTPT to find me breaking stories.
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you know, domestic battery. And then he wrote a story
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on it. Yeah. So I'm like, wow. I mean, the
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media industry is getting even easier now. So he's never
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been in the news business before, but now he's got a,
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he's got a distribution channel of 800,000 followers on socials.
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read by, you know, the 50,000 people.
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the thing, the thing with, uh, that's, that's been interesting
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as well with, um, you know, the, you know, development
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of artificial intelligence and how they're, how they're implementing it
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is that on one hand, it can be, it's a
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phenomenal tool, but then I think as time goes on,
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lot of the news organizations, just like what we're seeing
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about how Microsoft is trying to, is trying to get 60,000
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of their employees to volunteer to, to, to quit working
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of AI where AI does everything. And, And it's been
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interesting because I've been seeing more and more news outlets
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using AI to write their articles to where all of
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the articles. AI is finding where the breaking stories are,
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finding the right, the interesting angle, all that kind of stuff.
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to be an interesting new marketplace in the future where
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there's going to be a certain segment of the population
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that's like, I don't want the AI content. I want
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to hear what somebody actually is saying, not just what
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it has to find it that somebody else wrote, right?
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it your own. But you're still going to need boots
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on the ground. You're still going to need people to
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uncover this stuff. So I agree with you. I mean,
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nobody wants to have just an AI experience. platform, number one.
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it because AI is not going to promote its own articles, right?
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Who is it going to share it with? So it's
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still going to be news reporters. It's just going to
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be on platforms. And so in terms of what we do,
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there's nobody else in the space that does this. So
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we're kind of a monopoly. And what I'm really trying
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to do is get this thing to where we have
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north of 50,000 creators, because I think at 50,000, It's
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not a lot in comparison to Elon Musk's 600 million
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or YouTube's 100 million creators, but we can never have
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that many. I'm guessing you're pushing it at a million
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for monetized content creators. I'd be happy with a couple
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hundred thousand. It would be massive. But the creator base
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is what drives the audience. I remember when it was
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about maybe 10 years ago, I looked up how many
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News Reporters Associated Press had, I think it was about 7,500.
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But then it went down to like 5,000. Last I checked,
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I think it was 1,500 people.
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Because they're laying everybody off. They have nowhere to go.
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come out as I'm building an army of citizen reporters
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across the United States. And this is where the whole
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world's headed. So what you're doing, you're trying to change
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the way These systems are using algorithms to suppress your message, right?
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In our case, think of the message suppression that went
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on with mainstream media, right? So now with a citizen-powered press,
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we now have the ability to get all this stuff out.
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By the way, we don't fact check anything. Some people
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don't like that. I keep telling them we're not in
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the news business. And by the way, how much stuff
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did YouTube
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the people that were telling the truth, they threw off. Yeah. OK,
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so they say it was factual. Let's get rid of them. OK, so,
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you know, Rumble picked up those pieces. But I found that,
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you know, the only thing that a journalist has is
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their credibility. So the moment they lie, the public's going
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to know.
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And it's over for them. So if they have followers,
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they're just going to disappear. So I have yet to
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see somebody lie. Somebody may put out an opinion that
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you may not like or may not be factual. But
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that's again, that's an opinion. Right.
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Right. Well, you know, and I think that, you know,
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it's like even like even with with pickaxe, I've had
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a lot of people ask me, you can have community notes,
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you can have I'm like, no, like if you disagree
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with something that somebody says, like, provide you can reply
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to them and counter that with your own set of facts.
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I'm like the way the way that we deal with
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bad information is with good information. And, you know, that
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that's up to each and every one of us individually.
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do we currently have on Pickaxe? So we have 10,000
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users right now, or over 10,000 users on Pickaxe. We
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have about 500 verified, you know, content creators that are
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on there. But it's interesting because, you know, and you
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pointed out as well, it's like, you know, I think
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for both of us, we have a much smaller platform, obviously,
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than the mainstream. For me, it's like, you know, I'm
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obviously smaller than X and Facebook and all that kind
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of stuff. But it's interesting because of the business model
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that we're building. Like, I can see us being a
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completely self-sustainable, profitable business with 100,000 monthly active users as
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opposed to needing millions and millions and millions before you
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even turn on the spigot of advertising like a lot
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of the big tech platforms. And I think that that's
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where I think being, being small, being a smaller platform,
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but then opening it up to free speech and citizen
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journalists and all that. I think, I feel like it's
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a huge opportunity because also when you think about it,
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like you're not having to pay the overpriced salaries of
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these journalists and reporters that, that are, you know, making
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a crap ton of money working, working for a lot
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of these, you know, bigger, bigger, you know, media outlets
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and things like that. When you can actually, you know,
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arm them and then give reporters and independent journalists and everyday,
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you know, citizens the opportunity to actually have a voice,
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make money, earn their own way, and actually build their
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own business when you think about it. Like that to
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me is like the true American way.
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own business. And I don't think a lot of them
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really understand that. Right. You know, I mean, I put
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a video together in New York says become a citizen
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journalist where they can, you know, FAQs and stuff like that.
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And I explained to him, you know, you're the boss.
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You don't work for us. We work for you. Right.
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Your job is to build your own brand. We're just
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the ones that have to support you. So most people
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are not entrepreneurial, but for the ones that are, this
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is an opportunity for them to excel. And if they,
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you know, look, if you put if you produce great content,
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you'll get an audience. It's just that simple. And if
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you're producing stuff that, you know, not a lot of
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people want to see, you won't. So the cream always
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rises to the top. My niche is local news because
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anybody could get the Monday night football game, but who's
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giving me the high school football game?
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So that's the key. And I always tell people, if
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you could solve somebody's problem in business, you'll make money.
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about national news, I'm not saying you could love writing
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about the Monday night football game, but so does 100,000
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other people doing the same thing. You're competing with them
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for market share, but you're competing with nobody for the
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high school football game. So if you want to build
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a foundation. give somebody what they're demanding and you'll build
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an audience there. It doesn't mean you can't write about
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the Monday night football game, but those people are going
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to read it. Who cares? So it's a business. At
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the end of the day for them, it's the business.
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It's like having a bunch of entrepreneurs that are out
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there building their own business and not everybody makes it.
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It's just how it works. Right. How many, how many
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channels have you been to on YouTube where the last
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post was five years ago?
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It's not because their bank accounts were too filled up.
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It's because they just weren't cutting it.
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Well, so with your news, right, and like you said,
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you've got thousands of individual creators that are writing and
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all that kind of stuff. What kind of content do
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you feel like rises to the top? Because I think
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that's one of the things that I've found fascinating even
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about like like on Pickaxe is that we have certain
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things that it seems like there's a lot of people
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interested in, but it's not necessarily what the algorithms will
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push if you're on X. You're not going to see
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that kind of content on X or on Facebook or
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things like that. Is there anything in particular that you
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feel like dominates or are of most interest on your news?
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I think it's the local content. I do. Because the
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national stuff, I mean, look, we have it. Don't get
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me wrong. I mean, we have it. But you could
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get that on any you know, any website, you know,
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anywhere it's, but you can't get the local stuff, but
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that's the key. So, you know, that's why I tell people,
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you know, stick with the local because this is what's
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in demand because, you know, they could get their national
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news anywhere and everybody has their trusted sources on where
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they get it. So, you know, but I can't force
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them to do it. So they got to do whatever
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the hell they want. But a lot of these people
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I bring out already have followings on socials. You know, so,
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you know, I'm just an extension of what they're doing.
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And they could bring their own audience to the table.
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The perfect match for me would be somebody that already
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has a big following on socials that uses me because,
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you know, putting on, let's say, were you doing NASCAR? Well,
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where are you going to put that? You know, if
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it's written news, is ESPN going to hire you? I mean,
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where are you going to put this stuff? You can
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do Substack, but this is I'm not saying you shouldn't.
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Maybe you should have a Substack page and this. but
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this is a perfect fit for what you're doing because
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we're a news outlet. So it's a perfect match. And
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then all their followers end up coming to me to
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consume their information.
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Well, and it's interesting too, because again, for me being
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a Christian and a conservative and all of that, it's
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interesting because especially in the conservative movement, there's a weird,
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almost like a conflict that's going on where conservatives traditionally
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always talk about you know, federalism and focus on hyperlocal
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and all that kind of stuff.
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flip side, it seems like all we ever talk about
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is what happens in Washington, D.C. And like, nobody knows
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who's their local representative or who's running for office or
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what's going on in your local, you know, especially like city,
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but also like county and state and all that kind
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of stuff. And it's interesting because I feel like all
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of the media and all of the big names that
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everybody follows, it's all pushing us to only focus on Washington, D.C.
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to kind of refocus the attention, taking it back to hyperlocal,
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which is what conservatives preach but don't actually practice.
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They can't. I mean, up until what we're doing, where
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else could you do it? So, you know, you have
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your little local newspapers, right? Then you have the local
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TV stations, but they're owned by a handful of corporations. So,
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coming up on the on the election here in Florida,
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taxes on homes and eliminating property tax, not completely, but
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like giving you over a two year period, a total
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of a quarter of a million dollars worth of deductions
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off of your property. And the purpose, the reason they're
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doing it is they want the they say the average
475
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home is 400 grand in in Florida. And they want
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that number to have a zero tax base. So you
477
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need a 60% of the vote in order to change
478
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it to where you get that. And the media here,
479
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which is all the institutions, have been telling you how
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bad that is and how you're not going to have
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firefighters and policemen aren't going to get paid, which is
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just the biggest crock of crap. Let me tell you
483
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what happened. The housing prices in the last five years
484
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have doubled here. The municipalities have doubled their incomes. When
485
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it came to the property values for the tax, because
486
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we get charged, let's say, 2%. So if your homes
487
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were $ 250, 000 and now they're $ 500, 000, whatever it was, they
488
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just doubled, if not more. So now they had this
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influx of cash and they're like, well, we don't want
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to give it back. Let's take raises. So this is
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not run like an HOA where you're trying to keep
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things at a bare bones minimum. This is, well, I
493
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was making a quarter million a year. Why don't we
494
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bump me up to 350? The firefighters were making 75.
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Let's take them to 100 and a quarter. And so
496
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now everybody's getting rich off of it because, but yet
497
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the people are getting poorer. Yeah. So, you know, the
498
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mainstream media is just here to tell you lies. And
499
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this is what's got to end, you know. I mean,
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they're not here for the people. They're here for the
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people who pay them to be here, right? Mm-hmm. You know,
502
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that's all it is. So it's the same thing with politicians, too.
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You know, I don't know if you know my opinion
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on that, but they ain't ever going to fix a
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thing ever, ever. The same story I heard 50 years
506
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ago is still exists today. And we need to fix
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this and we need to fix Social Security. We need
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to fix the border. We need to have better gun legislation.
509
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And what else? OK, and nothing has ever been made.
510
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You need to give me money because we need to
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make sure they don't win. The only thing has changed
512
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is the Democratic Party. The Republican Party became the old
513
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Democratic Party, and the Democratic Party became communist. That's not
514
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the only thing that changed. That's all that's changed. So
515
00:26:06.240 --> 00:26:09.279
I think the Democratic Party is doing themselves a disservice
516
00:26:09.359 --> 00:26:13.099
because the moderates are just thinking to themselves, these people
517
00:26:13.140 --> 00:26:16.279
are freaking cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs. Who's the guy? I
518
00:26:17.660 --> 00:26:20.140
can't think of his name, but he's a Democrat, and
519
00:26:20.180 --> 00:26:22.640
he's even saying he's not voting Democrat because
he don't
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want communism. He's the guy they always bring on to
521
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discuss politics and he makes predictions. But even he says,
522
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I'm out. I don't want these people. They're nuts. They
523
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want to take everything.
524
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Right.
525
00:26:35.180 --> 00:26:35.359
Yeah.
526
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Well, you know, and I think that that's the thing
527
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is that people, there's a growing portion of the population.
528
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And I think we're looking at polling numbers. It seems
529
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like it's actually now a majority of people. that feel
530
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like neither party actually represents their values. And it was
531
00:26:54.319 --> 00:26:58.440
interesting because like the other day, I had Ted Rall
532
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on the show, who's a self-described communist, right? He's a lefty,
533
00:27:02.240 --> 00:27:04.059
you know, kind of more of a populist left Bernie
534
00:27:04.079 --> 00:27:07.180
Sanders type guy, right? And Robbie, you know, my producer,
535
00:27:07.220 --> 00:27:09.809
he produces his show as well. And Ted's one of
536
00:27:09.829 --> 00:27:11.589
my favorite people in the world to talk to. Like,
537
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it's fascinating, you know, getting to kind of pick his
538
00:27:13.690 --> 00:27:16.849
brain and stuff like that. But one of the things
539
00:27:16.869 --> 00:27:18.670
that we were both kind of talking about is that
540
00:27:19.220 --> 00:27:25.119
you know, neither party actually seems to represent their primary
541
00:27:25.279 --> 00:27:27.839
base of voters, right? Instead, what they do is they
542
00:27:27.859 --> 00:27:30.250
tell the voters to vote for them to fix the
543
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problems that they're never going to fix. And both parties,
544
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the both parties, like, will kind of play this game
545
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of they'll talk a big game, but they both need
546
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the boogeyman on the other side in order to campaign against.
547
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And so, like, you know, I've told the story a
548
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couple of times, but out here in California, when we
549
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had the recall of Gavin Newsom, I, um, I was
550
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trying to put together a bunch of rallies, uh, out here.
551
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And I, and I talked to all, like, I went
552
00:27:55.740 --> 00:27:57.740
up and down, you know, California talking to all the
553
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GOPs and like, none of them were interested. And I
554
00:27:59.900 --> 00:28:01.579
had like, I was going to do a debate with
555
00:28:01.640 --> 00:28:04.579
Sean Farage and many
AOC and then bring in some other,
556
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you know, bigger names to speak and all that. And
557
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it was going to be a cool event. Couldn't get
558
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any GOP to be interested in. And finally, one of
559
00:28:10.799 --> 00:28:13.509
them pulled me aside and was like, we were told
560
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by Kevin McCarthy not to spend any money on, on
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this recall of Gavin Newsom. And I was like, really? Why?
562
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And they're like, well, because he technically still wants Gavin
563
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Newsom to get to stay in power because they need
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a boogeyman to campaign against for the next round of
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congressional in the midterms. And I'm like, oh, that makes
566
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perfect sense. And so in the grand scheme of things,
567
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the Republicans like Gavin Newsom and the Democrats being in
568
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charge of California because they can raise a crap ton
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of money off of the Republicans that hate the Democrats.
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And it's like, It's just a game. It's a power game.
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That's all it is.
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Nothing's ever going to be fixed because if they fix
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the problem, you wouldn't need them. It's like if the
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drug companies cured cancer, you wouldn't need them anymore, right? Well,
575
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if politicians solved all the problems, because they're extremely easy
576
00:29:01.000 --> 00:29:03.160
to solve, right? I mean, if you could eliminate all
577
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the politicians and just fix it yourself, it's a very
578
00:29:05.680 --> 00:29:09.299
simple fix. Stop spending more than you bring in. That's
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00:29:09.819 --> 00:29:13.130
the simple truth. Stop giving away our money. You wouldn't
580
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need them anymore. And this is a business model for them.
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How many politicians that went into office that you know
582
00:29:19.460 --> 00:29:21.859
came out poor besides Trump in the first year?
583
00:29:22.259 --> 00:29:22.640
Yeah.
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In the first term. Nobody. I mean, even AOC is
585
00:29:26.660 --> 00:29:30.269
worth $ 20 million. So I don't know about you, but
586
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that just pisses me off. Yeah. Okay. An absolute waste
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of a human being that somehow got selected for this
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position and all of a sudden has a massive net
589
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worth while she's telling everybody how making money is bad
590
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and capitalism is bad. They've basically turned this into nothing
591
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more than a business model. For the record, these people
592
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don't work for us. They work for the people that
593
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pay them. That's it. And they gaslight everybody else into
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thinking that they're here to fix the problems when they're
595
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never going to fix anything. So watch what happens. I
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had a conversation about a month ago with one of
597
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the congresswomen over here in West Palm. And I said
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to her, I bet you any amount of money, our
599
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debt goes from $ 40 trillion to $ 80 trillion before it
600
00:30:13.630 --> 00:30:15.730
goes to $ 39 trillion. And she wasn't going to take
601
00:30:15.750 --> 00:30:17.650
that bet. She goes, no, you're right. And I go, well,
602
00:30:17.670 --> 00:30:19.759
there you go. So it's not going to be fixed.
603
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So the people who could fix the problem are not
604
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going to fix the problem. Mm-hmm. So why do I
605
00:30:25.569 --> 00:30:27.630
even need you anymore? You're just here to hurt.
606
00:30:28.289 --> 00:30:28.470
Right.
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That's it. All you're going to do is you're destroying
608
00:30:31.869 --> 00:30:35.029
the value of the currency. And this is why we're paying,
609
00:30:35.130 --> 00:30:37.309
you know, something we paid 25 bucks at the grocery
610
00:30:37.349 --> 00:30:40.980
store 20 years ago. We're paying $ 100 now or more.
611
00:30:42.039 --> 00:30:44.380
It's just gotten out of hand. And so watch what
612
00:30:44.420 --> 00:30:47.380
happens when the debt goes up and now you have
613
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$ 2 trillion in debt that, you know, in interest that
614
00:30:50.779 --> 00:30:53.529
you're paying, which, by the way, is another joke, simply
615
00:30:53.569 --> 00:30:59.069
because What idiot would control their own purse strings, borrow
616
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money against themselves and have to pay interest to somebody else?
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00:31:02.009 --> 00:31:02.210
Yeah.
618
00:31:02.730 --> 00:31:05.289
Okay. You have to be dumber than dumb to do that.
619
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So we have to pay interest on our own money
620
00:31:08.259 --> 00:31:10.660
and that people are profiting from this and these people
621
00:31:10.700 --> 00:31:13.019
just keep spending. So my guess is they're just going
622
00:31:13.039 --> 00:31:13.960
to bankrupt the currency.
623
00:31:14.559 --> 00:31:15.740
Right. Yeah.
624
00:31:15.779 --> 00:31:16.019
Robbie?
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00:31:16.779 --> 00:31:18.319
I have a question for you, Mr. Sam, and I
626
00:31:18.359 --> 00:31:21.960
agree with you. I think that Local news has got
627
00:31:21.980 --> 00:31:24.119
to matter. I think a local election is going to
628
00:31:24.160 --> 00:31:26.920
matter more than a national election does. Your sheriff is
629
00:31:26.960 --> 00:31:28.720
going to matter more than who the attorney general is,
630
00:31:28.740 --> 00:31:30.720
for example, at the end of the day, as far
631
00:31:30.769 --> 00:31:34.750
as your life goes. What my question is, is with
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00:31:34.869 --> 00:31:38.390
what you've seen with your network, have you seen people
633
00:31:38.410 --> 00:31:42.210
who are covering local news actually get the support to
634
00:31:42.250 --> 00:31:44.720
get people in who actually give a crap about where
635
00:31:44.740 --> 00:31:49.109
they live to try to push back against what's going on?
636
00:31:49.900 --> 00:31:52.339
So you're saying apathy, just go, just go just to
637
00:31:52.359 --> 00:31:56.039
the basement level. So, so the, most of the content
638
00:31:56.079 --> 00:32:00.259
we get, you would think it'd be politics. It's not, it's, it's, it's,
639
00:32:00.460 --> 00:32:02.589
most of it is not political. You know, when you,
640
00:32:02.630 --> 00:32:05.390
when we bring on a creator, I mean, I have
641
00:32:05.430 --> 00:32:09.509
people that write movie reviews, theater critics, okay. Local theater critics,
642
00:32:10.390 --> 00:32:13.529
people that do high school sports, people that do national sports.
643
00:32:14.210 --> 00:32:15.710
So you would think you would get a lot of
644
00:32:15.769 --> 00:32:18.880
political stuff. but most of it isn't, which kind of
645
00:32:18.900 --> 00:32:20.900
blows my mind. Now we get a lot of national
646
00:32:20.940 --> 00:32:24.859
politics and a lot of national opinions, but we don't
647
00:32:24.920 --> 00:32:27.900
get what you would think. At least not yet.
648
00:32:29.089 --> 00:32:30.849
Do you think it's because of the apathy? Just people
649
00:32:30.890 --> 00:32:33.609
just think that Rome is burning. There's no fixing it.
650
00:32:33.690 --> 00:32:35.329
So they're just going to just go to the movies
651
00:32:35.390 --> 00:32:38.829
instead or like, what did your gut tell you?
652
00:32:39.269 --> 00:32:43.549
Well, from the creator side, um, I'm thinking the people
653
00:32:43.569 --> 00:32:46.809
that are interested in politics probably have a place where
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00:32:46.829 --> 00:32:50.029
they're putting it for now. Where are you going to
655
00:32:50.069 --> 00:32:54.029
put movie reviews? I don't know. You can have a
656
00:32:54.049 --> 00:32:56.359
sub stack, but this is just another place to do it.
657
00:32:58.150 --> 00:32:59.720
Like I said, we get a lot of political news
658
00:32:59.779 --> 00:33:01.640
on a national level and even on a state level,
659
00:33:02.140 --> 00:33:07.059
but not a lot of local, hyper-local political news. We
660
00:33:07.099 --> 00:33:10.410
get hard news, bank robbery, car crash, you know, that
661
00:33:10.450 --> 00:33:12.990
kind of stuff, high school football game,
stuff like that.
662
00:33:13.369 --> 00:33:16.029
But I don't really see that stuff that you're talking about.
663
00:33:16.109 --> 00:33:20.529
But I do see as just imagine this, Jeff, you know,
664
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as your platform gets bigger and as you get to
665
00:33:22.930 --> 00:33:26.109
10 and 20,000 creators, this thing will start to mushroom
666
00:33:26.769 --> 00:33:29.329
because it'll start to attract more ad revenue. And then
667
00:33:29.490 --> 00:33:31.109
more people are going to start making money and more
668
00:33:31.150 --> 00:33:32.910
people are going to start moving over. And the bigger
669
00:33:32.950 --> 00:33:34.869
you get, the bigger you get. It just keeps kind
670
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of self-feeding. Then you're going to start to get all
671
00:33:37.990 --> 00:33:40.849
those people. Mm-hmm. And it's probably going to attract the
672
00:33:40.869 --> 00:33:41.430
nut jobs too.
673
00:33:42.450 --> 00:33:42.630
Yeah.
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00:33:42.779 --> 00:33:48.099
I mean, there's always nut jobs in every platform. That's
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the reality. We've already dealt with a little bit of
676
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that every now and then. But I think it's interesting because,
677
00:33:54.799 --> 00:33:58.200
especially with what you were talking about, how on the
678
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more hyper-local side of things, there's not as much discussion
679
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of politics. And my thing is that I feel like
680
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there's a massive opportunity because like, like there's like, there's
681
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one reporter that I know that she's a good friend
682
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of mine, Anna Mattson, who's, you know, she's been, she's
683
00:34:15.159 --> 00:34:16.920
been talking a lot and she, you know, cause she
684
00:34:16.960 --> 00:34:19.960
was a Kennedy supporter. And so she had a big audience,
685
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but then she started focusing hyper local and her local
686
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like township. I forget if she's in Michigan or Illinois
687
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or somewhere back there. And like the shenanigans that are
688
00:34:28.619 --> 00:34:32.030
going on with like the town council. And like, it's like, it's,
689
00:34:32.210 --> 00:34:35.050
it's almost like a movie of how crazy and corrupt
690
00:34:35.090 --> 00:34:37.659
and all that kind of stuff. Like there's some, crazy
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stories that when you start looking at hyperlocal because they're
692
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not used to they're not used to having accountability right
693
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and so it's like there's a massive opportunity for for
694
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creators and writers to actually start paying attention to your
695
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local city council meetings or county board of supervisors and
696
00:34:54.199 --> 00:34:56.559
all that because like there's a lot of there's a
697
00:34:56.579 --> 00:34:58.400
lot of stuff that would shock a lot of people
698
00:34:58.500 --> 00:35:01.739
locally that would be great news stories that you know
699
00:35:01.780 --> 00:35:03.599
it did they just go unnoticed because people aren't paying
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attention as much.
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I get it. I totally agree with you. And I
702
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think as time moves on, you're going to start getting
703
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that stuff. I mean, because it doesn't matter if it's
704
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on a national level or on a local level. There's
705
00:35:14.849 --> 00:35:16.949
all kinds of corruption going on. There's all kinds of
706
00:35:16.989 --> 00:35:20.340
payoffs and bribes. And it's not going to stop until
707
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you take the money out of the system. So, I mean,
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if politicians had no way to make a nickel, they
709
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wouldn't be there. The ones you have that are supposed
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to be representing you that don't would leave. Yeah. And
711
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so I think Warren Buffett said it best. If you
712
00:35:35.389 --> 00:35:38.570
want to fix the problem, if you don't balance the budget,
713
00:35:38.789 --> 00:35:43.590
every single Congress and senator can't re-up for another term. Basically,
714
00:35:43.610 --> 00:35:46.489
you're terming yourself out the moment the budget isn't balanced
715
00:35:47.409 --> 00:35:50.570
and that would end it. But they have to vote
716
00:35:50.610 --> 00:35:51.030
that in.
717
00:35:51.630 --> 00:35:51.809
Right.
718
00:35:52.269 --> 00:35:55.780
Which is screwed up. OK, so you're not really working
719
00:35:55.800 --> 00:35:58.619
for us. You're here to steal everything we got and
720
00:35:58.659 --> 00:36:01.059
then bankrupt the currency and then start a new one.
721
00:36:02.000 --> 00:36:04.480
that's how I see it. So I, I, I don't
722
00:36:04.519 --> 00:36:07.179
know how anybody could see it any other way since
723
00:36:07.280 --> 00:36:10.380
nothing has been fixed since I could remember. And it's
724
00:36:10.659 --> 00:36:14.590
all the same issues. We haven't even added another one. Okay.
725
00:36:15.199 --> 00:36:17.429
The only guy that's ever tried to fix anything is
726
00:36:17.449 --> 00:36:22.130
Donald Trump. And the real problem that I see is
727
00:36:22.190 --> 00:36:24.929
really the debt, because if the debt wasn't there, you
728
00:36:24.949 --> 00:36:26.550
wouldn't have the inflation. Right.
729
00:36:27.010 --> 00:36:27.250
Okay.
730
00:36:27.489 --> 00:36:30.869
So the way he tried to solve the debt, was
731
00:36:30.949 --> 00:36:34.750
to tariff the other countries and have the money coming
732
00:36:34.769 --> 00:36:36.570
in where you
had so much money coming in that
733
00:36:36.590 --> 00:36:39.329
it was paying down the debt and then to eventually
734
00:36:39.389 --> 00:36:44.530
eliminate income tax. He got resistance from Republicans. And then
735
00:36:44.590 --> 00:36:48.809
ultimately the Supreme Court shut it down. So even your
736
00:36:49.050 --> 00:36:51.969
own court system doesn't want prosperity.
737
00:36:52.869 --> 00:36:56.880
Right. And this is my thing, especially with the debt,
738
00:36:57.019 --> 00:37:02.340
is that And he's talked about this a couple of
739
00:37:02.360 --> 00:37:05.300
times about how he wants to use inflation to our
740
00:37:05.360 --> 00:37:09.320
benefit because it devalues the dollar, which makes it easier
741
00:37:09.340 --> 00:37:11.579
for us to pay off the debt to China and
742
00:37:11.599 --> 00:37:14.780
all that kind of stuff. The problem with that is
743
00:37:16.050 --> 00:37:18.809
that the strategy only works if you can get into
744
00:37:18.849 --> 00:37:21.650
a surplus, right? Because as long as you're spending more
745
00:37:21.670 --> 00:37:26.409
than you're bringing in, it doesn't matter how you fund it. it's,
746
00:37:26.769 --> 00:37:28.789
it's just going to continue to skyrocket. Right. And so,
747
00:37:29.170 --> 00:37:31.300
so it's like, this is where that was my biggest
748
00:37:31.340 --> 00:37:33.880
criticism of like the big, beautiful bill is that we're
749
00:37:33.940 --> 00:37:37.280
still spending at, at a higher rate than what we're
750
00:37:37.320 --> 00:37:40.340
bringing in. If we could just even, even get it
751
00:37:40.400 --> 00:37:43.619
down to like where we're, we're, we're it's, it's breaking
752
00:37:43.739 --> 00:37:46.380
even like that would be a net positive. And then
753
00:37:46.400 --> 00:37:47.820
you throw the tariffs on top of that. Then you
754
00:37:47.840 --> 00:37:49.719
could throw all of that at the debt. And it's like,
755
00:37:50.079 --> 00:37:52.099
That makes perfect sense to me. But if we're going
756
00:37:52.139 --> 00:37:54.480
to continue to spend more and then think that we
757
00:37:54.960 --> 00:37:58.679
can use inflationary tactics to pay it off, that's where
758
00:37:58.699 --> 00:38:01.469
I'm just like, we're not going to get anywhere. But
759
00:38:01.489 --> 00:38:06.090
then also, he's also dealing with the neocon establishment, Republican Party,
760
00:38:06.530 --> 00:38:09.230
who they don't want to fix the problem because they
761
00:38:09.250 --> 00:38:11.769
can just continue to campaign on, we'll fix the problem,
762
00:38:11.809 --> 00:38:13.650
give us money, and then they never actually fix it.
763
00:38:14.150 --> 00:38:16.710
And it will never be fixed. But you're correct. It's
764
00:38:16.769 --> 00:38:19.230
not a hard fix. It's actually pretty easy. If you
765
00:38:19.269 --> 00:38:21.369
could leverage the assets of the United States, turn it
766
00:38:21.409 --> 00:38:24.630
into a business, you'll be able to generate enough revenue
767
00:38:24.650 --> 00:38:26.510
to pay this down, which personally, I don't think we
768
00:38:26.570 --> 00:38:29.780
owe it anyway. I think that most of it should
769
00:38:29.800 --> 00:38:32.599
be just washed. But that being said, you could do it.
770
00:38:32.929 --> 00:38:34.840
They ain't going to let him do it. So he
771
00:38:34.860 --> 00:38:38.800
was the only person that actually tried. So from here
772
00:38:38.860 --> 00:38:40.559
on out, it's just going to get nothing but worse.
773
00:38:40.980 --> 00:38:43.760
Jobs are going to become less. You have AI that,
774
00:38:43.820 --> 00:38:45.480
I mean, think about it. You don't need a lawyer
775
00:38:45.739 --> 00:38:48.210
right now, at least when it comes to documents. Did
776
00:38:48.230 --> 00:38:50.730
you do any of your documents, you know, terms of
777
00:38:50.889 --> 00:38:53.550
use and all that stuff? I mean, AI just spits
778
00:38:53.570 --> 00:38:54.230
this stuff out.
779
00:38:54.630 --> 00:38:55.570
Totally.
780
00:38:56.090 --> 00:38:58.260
And literally in 10 seconds. I mean, like it'll give
781
00:38:58.280 --> 00:39:00.920
you a whole thing and you're like, wow, that just
782
00:39:00.940 --> 00:39:01.940
saved me 500 bucks.
783
00:39:02.340 --> 00:39:02.519
Right.
784
00:39:02.920 --> 00:39:03.920
You know.
785
00:39:04.739 --> 00:39:05.219
Yeah.
786
00:39:05.440 --> 00:39:06.380
Now, I have a question for you, Mr.
787
00:39:06.400 --> 00:39:06.719
Sam.
788
00:39:06.739 --> 00:39:09.889
Before I just stop talking about Trump, you said they
789
00:39:09.909 --> 00:39:12.389
wouldn't let him fix it. I don't think he wanted
790
00:39:12.409 --> 00:39:14.719
to fix it. Because if he wanted to, he would
791
00:39:14.739 --> 00:39:17.250
have vetoed every omnibus bill that.
792
00:39:17.159 --> 00:39:18.010
Came to him.
793
00:39:18.320 --> 00:39:20.989
He could have said, he's the president. He could have said,
794
00:39:21.010 --> 00:39:24.050
you send me standalone spending bills instead of all this
795
00:39:24.170 --> 00:39:27.650
crap just lumped into one big old gigantic bill. And
796
00:39:27.670 --> 00:39:29.969
if you don't, I will shut the government down until
797
00:39:30.090 --> 00:39:31.349
you give me something to work with.
798
00:39:31.710 --> 00:39:32.269
He didn't do it.
799
00:39:32.590 --> 00:39:35.010
He did not do it. And my guess was he
800
00:39:35.050 --> 00:39:37.210
thought the tariffs were going to be the thing that
801
00:39:37.250 --> 00:39:39.630
was going to take this thing to another level and
802
00:39:39.650 --> 00:39:41.510
be able to pay it down. But he was wrong.
803
00:39:42.269 --> 00:39:44.409
Isn't this a self-inflicted wound on his part? I mean,
804
00:39:44.650 --> 00:39:47.940
between that and Iran, what's the difference between him and Kamala?
805
00:39:49.409 --> 00:39:51.989
Well, first of all, so it depends on how you
806
00:39:52.050 --> 00:39:54.380
look at it. To me, this Iran problem should
have
807
00:39:54.400 --> 00:39:58.860
been fixed 50 years ago. I personally think that Iran
808
00:39:59.039 --> 00:40:02.800
should not be allowed to exist. These are people that
809
00:40:02.820 --> 00:40:06.050
are not here for the best interest of anybody, period.
810
00:40:06.699 --> 00:40:08.690
And the fact that they created all these problems and
811
00:40:08.710 --> 00:40:12.429
then creating and funding terrorism across the globe, this regime
812
00:40:12.449 --> 00:40:14.550
should have been eliminated a long time ago. But if
813
00:40:14.590 --> 00:40:17.690
you notice, we have a Congress that doesn't fix anything.
814
00:40:18.309 --> 00:40:20.670
So that would have never been fixed. So going in
815
00:40:20.690 --> 00:40:23.789
there now and making sure these people never have nuclear weapons,
816
00:40:23.829 --> 00:40:25.730
my personal opinion is they should go in there and
817
00:40:25.750 --> 00:40:27.889
take over the country and just name it a territory
818
00:40:27.909 --> 00:40:30.539
of the United States. That's what I would do. It's
819
00:40:30.619 --> 00:40:33.079
no longer yours. The oil's ours. Thank you for your time.
820
00:40:33.119 --> 00:40:35.519
We're building golf courses and any U.S. citizens could play
821
00:40:35.559 --> 00:40:38.539
for free if you fly over. That's how I see
822
00:40:38.559 --> 00:40:42.530
it because they've been the problem. So if you notice,
823
00:40:42.550 --> 00:40:44.619
they're not really much of a problem anymore. And if
824
00:40:44.639 --> 00:40:46.920
you want to know about why oil prices are still high,
825
00:40:46.940 --> 00:40:49.139
I don't know what you're paying, probably $ 7 in California.
826
00:40:49.159 --> 00:40:54.360
We're paying $ 3. 50. That's your taxes. There's more oil moving
827
00:40:54.400 --> 00:40:57.199
around the globe right now than ever before. But the
828
00:40:57.260 --> 00:41:01.230
reason it's up is because insurance costs went up five times.
829
00:41:02.710 --> 00:41:04.630
So I don't know what it costs for insurance, but
830
00:41:04.670 --> 00:41:06.769
if you were paying a million per vessel, it's now
831
00:41:06.769 --> 00:41:07.369
$ 5 million.
832
00:41:07.949 --> 00:41:08.170
Right.
833
00:41:09.809 --> 00:41:13.170
That's the reason why. But there's plenty of oil. So
834
00:41:13.210 --> 00:41:15.130
I don't know what this Venezuela thing is going to do.
835
00:41:15.190 --> 00:41:17.869
I don't know, because the market's still the market. And
836
00:41:17.909 --> 00:41:19.869
even though we have oil coming from Venezuela, you don't
837
00:41:19.909 --> 00:41:22.130
need to really insure those boats like you do coming
838
00:41:22.170 --> 00:41:25.889
out of the Straits of Hormuz. But I don't know
839
00:41:25.909 --> 00:41:29.860
if it's going to drop the price. But the market's
840
00:41:29.900 --> 00:41:32.960
the market. So the market's now based on what insurance
841
00:41:33.019 --> 00:41:35.300
rates are. Maybe if you shut down the Straits of
842
00:41:35.320 --> 00:41:38.900
Hormuz and everything we buy is from Venezuela and maybe Canada,
843
00:41:38.940 --> 00:41:43.219
it'll change everything. Because now, I don't know. this is
844
00:41:43.440 --> 00:41:45.159
above and beyond my pay grade. Yeah.
845
00:41:45.980 --> 00:41:49.820
Yeah. Well, I think, I think it's interesting. It's all
846
00:41:49.840 --> 00:41:52.780
of this stuff is, is an interesting conversation because there's
847
00:41:52.800 --> 00:41:55.590
so many different moving parts about all of this. And,
848
00:41:56.090 --> 00:41:58.829
and I think that there's like, for me personally, I
849
00:41:59.429 --> 00:42:03.590
think that there's, there's good arguments on, on both sides.
850
00:42:03.630 --> 00:42:05.630
And I think both sides also make bad, bad arguments,
851
00:42:05.670 --> 00:42:07.690
which is kind of my, my takeaway on almost every
852
00:42:07.710 --> 00:42:09.309
single issue is I feel like I can poke holes
853
00:42:09.349 --> 00:42:12.650
on both sides and, of most of these issues everybody's
854
00:42:12.690 --> 00:42:15.550
fighting over. But I think it's one of those things
855
00:42:15.570 --> 00:42:19.219
where it's like, yeah, I mean, Iran's not a good
856
00:42:19.239 --> 00:42:23.360
country at all. At the same time, I'm also like,
857
00:42:23.800 --> 00:42:26.659
we've got so much crap we have to deal with
858
00:42:27.079 --> 00:42:29.719
here in the United States that we're not. And then
859
00:42:29.739 --> 00:42:31.599
we're going to invest all this time and energy and
860
00:42:31.659 --> 00:42:36.159
focus and also deal with the economic ramifications of that
861
00:42:36.199 --> 00:42:39.000
that we're all having to deal with. And as we
862
00:42:39.039 --> 00:42:41.429
all know, as prices... you know, go up, they very
863
00:42:41.530 --> 00:42:43.530
rarely come back down. So we're going to continue to
864
00:42:43.550 --> 00:42:46.349
see that kind of stuff happen. So it's just, it's a,
865
00:42:46.840 --> 00:42:50.000
I feel like it was a very unfortunate situation. And
866
00:42:50.980 --> 00:42:53.139
I also think based upon a lot of the conversations
867
00:42:53.159 --> 00:42:54.739
I've had with people that are, you know, close to
868
00:42:54.800 --> 00:42:58.960
President Trump, it seems as if he thought that they
869
00:42:58.980 --> 00:43:00.679
could go get in and out in the same way
870
00:43:00.699 --> 00:43:03.980
they did with Venezuela. And you're not taking into consideration
871
00:43:04.019 --> 00:43:06.400
that that's a much larger country there with Iran. And
872
00:43:06.420 --> 00:43:08.579
then also you have to, you've got the religious component
873
00:43:08.980 --> 00:43:12.440
which even going back to George Bush, we underestimated the
874
00:43:12.480 --> 00:43:15.610
religious component, component of the Islam of the, of the
875
00:43:15.659 --> 00:43:19.570
Islamic motivations of the people, because like that adds a
876
00:43:19.670 --> 00:43:22.849
whole other, that adds a whole other, you know, level
877
00:43:22.869 --> 00:43:25.849
of commitment to the war that we don't have. Cause
878
00:43:25.869 --> 00:43:28.230
we don't have that reload or that religious motivation to
879
00:43:28.250 --> 00:43:31.340
go to war, but they do for defending. Right. So there's, there's,
880
00:43:31.400 --> 00:43:33.079
there's a lot, there's a lot of nuance. I feel
881
00:43:33.099 --> 00:43:34.960
like that goes into a lot of these conversations that
882
00:43:35.000 --> 00:43:38.679
like not a lot of people look at, you know, Oh.
883
00:43:38.719 --> 00:43:41.699
I did. You're right. The whole religion thing. I mean,
884
00:43:41.860 --> 00:43:43.780
Allah has told them to do this. This is their
885
00:43:43.820 --> 00:43:46.199
mission in life is to make sure they kill the
886
00:43:46.239 --> 00:43:51.360
infidel and anyone that's not a Muslim. I mean, so
887
00:43:51.659 --> 00:43:54.429
that in itself to me is a problem. You can't
888
00:43:54.510 --> 00:43:56.090
coexist with other people.
889
00:43:56.610 --> 00:43:56.829
Right.
890
00:43:57.409 --> 00:43:59.610
And so this should have been fixed 50 years ago,
891
00:43:59.789 --> 00:44:01.550
but they didn't do it. And all they did was
892
00:44:01.590 --> 00:44:03.809
let them get more power and more power and more power.
893
00:44:04.309 --> 00:44:07.639
I can assure you, based on what I've heard, They
894
00:44:07.659 --> 00:44:09.840
really don't have much of a military anymore. They certainly
895
00:44:09.880 --> 00:44:14.099
don't have any air bases with planes anymore. They certainly
896
00:44:14.119 --> 00:44:17.579
don't have any ships. They're pretty much stuck back in
897
00:44:17.599 --> 00:44:21.420
the dark ages again. And I think as long as
898
00:44:21.460 --> 00:44:24.280
you could keep them from getting any kind of financial support,
899
00:44:25.809 --> 00:44:28.210
the markets will go down on the oil. The markets
900
00:44:28.230 --> 00:44:30.289
will come down. The good news about oil is it
901
00:44:30.309 --> 00:44:32.809
goes up and down. It's a market-driven thing. Right now,
902
00:44:32.869 --> 00:44:36.889
it's just the insurance. But I think this had to
903
00:44:36.929 --> 00:44:40.449
be done. Because let me ask you this question. Do
904
00:44:40.510 --> 00:44:42.530
you think if Iran had the ability to put a
905
00:44:42.570 --> 00:44:44.900
nuke into the United States, they would do it?
906
00:44:46.260 --> 00:44:49.760
If they did, I think that they would probably do
907
00:44:50.079 --> 00:44:51.000
Israel before they did.
908
00:44:51.260 --> 00:44:55.920
Well, certainly closer. Yes. Okay. So, but I agree with that.
909
00:44:56.260 --> 00:44:59.210
So the point is, is that's to me is a problem.
910
00:45:00.210 --> 00:45:03.719
I mean, this is like a psychopathic killer. And if
911
00:45:03.739 --> 00:45:05.960
you let him out of his cell, he's going to
912
00:45:05.980 --> 00:45:08.179
create a lot of damage. So just shut it down
913
00:45:08.239 --> 00:45:10.239
before you get into the problem. Right.
914
00:45:10.460 --> 00:45:13.639
Well, I think that this is where, when you think
915
00:45:13.719 --> 00:45:20.280
about it, this is another somewhat self-inflicted wound of the
916
00:45:20.320 --> 00:45:24.739
Trump administration, strictly from the messaging standpoint. And I think
917
00:45:24.840 --> 00:45:28.510
that that's been one of the weaknesses, ironically, of Trump
918
00:45:28.530 --> 00:45:32.289
administration is Trump himself, especially when he campaigns. He's a
919
00:45:32.349 --> 00:45:37.360
phenomenal politician, phenomenal campaigner, and all of that. But for
920
00:45:37.440 --> 00:45:41.880
whatever reason, his administrations oftentimes don't do the best job
921
00:45:41.900 --> 00:45:45.199
of selling things, right? So it's like, for example, with
922
00:45:45.719 --> 00:45:48.349
everything that's going on in Iran, I think a big
923
00:45:48.449 --> 00:45:51.869
part of why there's so much blowback is the way
924
00:45:51.929 --> 00:45:55.090
that they sold it, right? So we were told after
925
00:45:55.130 --> 00:45:57.230
the first missile strikes that happened, what was it, last year,
926
00:45:57.710 --> 00:46:01.050
that we obliterated their nuclear program because they were two
927
00:46:01.070 --> 00:46:02.389
weeks away. And then all of a sudden we go
928
00:46:02.409 --> 00:46:04.710
to war because now they're back to being two weeks
929
00:46:04.769 --> 00:46:08.380
away from achieving nuclear weapons. So we have to go
930
00:46:08.420 --> 00:46:10.340
and we have to stop them. And it's like, but
931
00:46:10.360 --> 00:46:14.920
did we obliterate it then? Or have we obliterated it now?
932
00:46:15.119 --> 00:46:17.739
What's going on? And I would actually make the argument
933
00:46:17.780 --> 00:46:22.510
that if the case was okay, they've been killing our
934
00:46:22.570 --> 00:46:26.090
soldiers in the Middle East, and there's been threats, and
935
00:46:26.429 --> 00:46:30.170
there was the allegations that Iran was involved with the
936
00:46:30.210 --> 00:46:34.429
attempt on President Trump at Butler, and all these different things.
937
00:46:34.869 --> 00:46:37.409
If that was the case, I feel like that would
938
00:46:37.429 --> 00:46:39.130
have been a legitimate argument to go to the American
939
00:46:39.150 --> 00:46:41.989
people and say, look, they tried to assassinate President Trump.
940
00:46:42.070 --> 00:46:44.050
They tried to do this. They killed this. We have
941
00:46:44.090 --> 00:46:47.320
to deal with this ASAP. But I think the problem
942
00:46:47.360 --> 00:46:50.610
was in how they sold it. And then people kind
943
00:46:50.630 --> 00:46:53.969
of call BS because the arguments that the Trump administration made,
944
00:46:54.590 --> 00:46:57.429
it's like it doesn't always hold up to scrutiny as
945
00:46:57.489 --> 00:46:59.920
opposed to just
tell us why we're going to war
946
00:47:00.019 --> 00:47:01.619
and then maybe we can get behind it.
947
00:47:02.500 --> 00:47:06.739
I get it. Yeah. And it was only supposed to
948
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be a short period of time.
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Right.
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And I actually believe Trump believed that because even I said, Well,
951
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how long can these people stand to hold out? I mean,
952
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you know, once you sink all the ships and once
953
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you destroy all the planes and once you hit all
954
00:47:21.239 --> 00:47:26.179
their infrastructure, what do you got left? Camels? Swords? I mean,
955
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like what's left? But, you know, these people just aren't quitters.
956
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They hate. And, you know, now they hate you even more.
957
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Right.
958
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So I think if he's going to do it, he
959
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should finish the job and, you know, somehow get rid
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of all of them as much as. As much as
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nobody wants ground troops in there, you got to eliminate
962
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these people. These people should not control anything. Nothing. Yeah. Yeah.
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Well, it's, it's, it's interesting because like, like, like you said,
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like the, the, what, what we're told by the Trump
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administration and by the media and stuff like that is, again, we,
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we've obliterated them back into the stone age and, you know,
967
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like all that kind of stuff. And, and I'm just like,
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but if we did, wouldn't, wouldn't we just be able
969
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to just roar it in and take over?
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You would think. To me, this is the weird part.
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Why have we not went in there and taken this
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thing over?
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Why are we still negotiating if literally they have no power?
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You know what I mean?
975
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I do think they have power. You're talking about electricity.
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I don't think he took out the grids. I don't
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know if that would be a good thing or a
978
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bad thing. From the standpoint of knocking them back into
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the Stone Ages, if you don't have the ability to
980
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build back your grids, you're screwed. So that would certainly
981
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do it, but you're going to affect a lot of people,
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00:48:40.380 --> 00:48:42.139
a lot of families that don't want to be there.
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00:48:42.179 --> 00:48:45.559
How many people did Iran kill when they were rising up? 50,000, 60,000?
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00:48:45.559 --> 00:48:48.940
Some of that, yeah. I mean, it was some ridiculous amount.
985
00:48:49.019 --> 00:48:51.139
I mean, could you imagine if we did that here,
986
00:48:51.519 --> 00:48:53.760
what kind of uprising there would be?
987
00:48:53.780 --> 00:48:56.380
Well, I mean, we kind of had that with COVID
988
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and there was no uprising.
989
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Isn't that the strangest thing? So, so far, the biggest
990
00:49:02.920 --> 00:49:07.739
mass murder on planet Earth is Fauci. It's Fauci. And
991
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my personal opinion is he's going to get away with
992
00:49:10.550 --> 00:49:12.969
it just like everybody else. I mean, so remember when
993
00:49:13.010 --> 00:49:16.530
Trump got elected, everybody said, okay, we're waiting for all
994
00:49:16.550 --> 00:49:20.559
the arrests, right? So how many people got arrested so far?
995
00:49:21.719 --> 00:49:22.380
Not very many.
996
00:49:23.239 --> 00:49:26.260
And who do we have right now that they actually
997
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have the goods on? Ilhan Omar. So they now know
998
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she has the same last name as her brother. I'm
999
00:49:32.789 --> 00:49:35.570
assuming they'll be able to connect the dots and say, okay,
1000
00:49:35.610 --> 00:49:38.829
these two were married. Now, I understand there's a discrepancy
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with her age when her father brought her into the
1002
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United States. I guess she was 18 and they put 17.
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But wouldn't this be enough to get a conviction and
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go grab her?
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00:49:50.869 --> 00:49:55.690
You would think. But this is my thing. Because I've
1006
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had Kash Patel on my show before and different people
1007
00:49:58.679 --> 00:50:01.079
in the Trump administration and all that. And they all
1008
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talked a big game and we're going to drain the
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swamp and root out the deep state. And Epstein files
1010
00:50:05.760 --> 00:50:07.590
this and that and the other thing. And then they
1011
00:50:07.630 --> 00:50:10.550
get in there, and then we get gaslit. And I'm
1012
00:50:10.570 --> 00:50:14.090
just sitting here, and I'm just like, okay, what's going
1013
00:50:14.170 --> 00:50:16.769
on here? Because it's like, literally, I had Kash Patel
1014
00:50:16.809 --> 00:50:19.820
on my show talking about how the entire infrastructure of
1015
00:50:19.860 --> 00:50:23.039
the FBI is corrupt, and they're all, in his words,
1016
00:50:23.179 --> 00:50:26.480
based on his documentary and his book, a government of gangsters.
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00:50:32.199
And then he said the black book of Epstein is
1018
00:50:32.300 --> 00:50:34.780
literally in the desk of the FBI director. And then
1019
00:50:34.800 --> 00:50:36.440
he gets in there, and he's like, there's no black book.
1020
00:50:36.480 --> 00:50:37.900
What are you talking about? And he, and he said,
1021
00:50:37.920 --> 00:50:41.320
before he got in, I saw it last time around. And, uh,
1022
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and it's, and I think that that's, that's the thing
1023
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that I think really throws me for, for a loop
1024
00:50:47.570 --> 00:50:49.989
is people that I know that I've talked to over
1025
00:50:50.030 --> 00:50:52.309
the years that I've connected, whatever it is, they get
1026
00:50:52.389 --> 00:50:54.869
into the administration and then all of a sudden they
1027
00:50:54.889 --> 00:50:57.829
do a complete about face. And it's, it's, it's the
1028
00:50:58.130 --> 00:51:01.320
craziest thing. When you think about like the Epstein files,
1029
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it's like, did they actually release all of that? What's
1030
00:51:04.559 --> 00:51:07.000
actually going on there? I don't know if you've been
1031
00:51:07.039 --> 00:51:09.599
following that case with that kid that they arrested Brian
1032
00:51:09.619 --> 00:51:13.599
Cole Jr. for the J6 pipe bombing that happened. Like
1033
00:51:13.619 --> 00:51:17.179
that case, like any investigative journalist should be looking at C.
1034
00:51:17.219 --> 00:51:19.619
Baker on like what happened with there because that's clearly
1035
00:51:19.639 --> 00:51:22.250
a setup by the FBI to cover up for a
1036
00:51:22.289 --> 00:51:25.849
CIA agent that basically actually planted the bombs. It's wild
1037
00:51:25.889 --> 00:51:27.550
when you look at this and you're like, But I
1038
00:51:27.570 --> 00:51:29.349
thought we were supposed to bring back transparency and we
1039
00:51:29.369 --> 00:51:30.530
were going to drain the swamp and we were going
1040
00:51:30.550 --> 00:51:32.389
to deal with the corruption and all that kind of stuff.
1041
00:51:32.409 --> 00:51:35.429
And I feel like that's where there's a certain segment.
1042
00:51:35.489 --> 00:51:37.670
And this is what makes it concerning for me heading
1043
00:51:37.690 --> 00:51:40.449
into the midterms, where there's a segment of the of
1044
00:51:40.510 --> 00:51:43.880
the Republican Party that feels like, OK, we voted for
1045
00:51:43.940 --> 00:51:47.989
you to accomplish X, Y and Z. You're not doing it.
1046
00:51:48.059 --> 00:51:49.599
Why do we think that you're going to do it
1047
00:51:49.639 --> 00:51:50.380
if we keep you in?
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00:51:50.659 --> 00:51:55.500
You know, I completely agree with you. I mean, I'm
1049
00:51:55.539 --> 00:51:58.679
just as frustrated as you. I've come to the conclusion
1050
00:51:58.699 --> 00:52:01.139
that nothing is going to get done. Remember?
1051
00:52:01.519 --> 00:52:01.840
Okay.
1052
00:52:02.380 --> 00:52:05.199
Nothing is going to be fixed. And it's because we
1053
00:52:05.219 --> 00:52:08.599
don't pay them enough money. Apparently, $ 175, 000 a year is
1054
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not enough. So they have to look elsewhere to get
1055
00:52:12.099 --> 00:52:14.820
their money because they have $ 5 to $ 10 million worth
1056
00:52:14.840 --> 00:52:18.199
of property taxes to pay on. And they need to
1057
00:52:18.239 --> 00:52:20.820
get that money from somewhere else. And we're not going
1058
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to give them $ 5 or $ 10 million a year in salary.
1059
00:52:24.840 --> 00:52:27.179
that would actually probably be cheaper if we actually paid
1060
00:52:27.199 --> 00:52:30.989
them that much money to actually do good. Okay. You
1061
00:52:31.010 --> 00:52:33.710
probably get the right result. And we said, look, this
1062
00:52:33.789 --> 00:52:35.969
is the moment you send money. Any money going out
1063
00:52:36.030 --> 00:52:39.869
has to come from your check. That could be another thing.
1064
00:52:40.269 --> 00:52:41.929
You're paying for it. If you want to send money
1065
00:52:42.010 --> 00:52:44.719
to teach chimpanzees how to masturbate, it comes out of
1066
00:52:44.739 --> 00:52:47.760
your check. We're all in as long as it's going
1067
00:52:47.780 --> 00:52:50.170
to you, or you could keep it yourself. But it's,
1068
00:52:50.449 --> 00:52:52.349
you know, I'm of the same opinion with you. Nothing's
1069
00:52:52.369 --> 00:52:55.530
going to be fixed. We'll see who the next administration is,
1070
00:52:55.630 --> 00:52:59.989
but this whole, this whole system has to come to
1071
00:53:00.030 --> 00:53:03.289
an end. I'm talking about the system of corruption because
1072
00:53:03.329 --> 00:53:06.730
it's all about money. The money needs to be removed.
1073
00:53:07.329 --> 00:53:07.550
Right.
1074
00:53:07.969 --> 00:53:10.940
And other than that, that's all these people are interested in.
1075
00:53:10.969 --> 00:53:14.050
They see trillions of dollars coming in and they're like,
1076
00:53:14.150 --> 00:53:17.480
how do we get our hands on that money? And, and,
1077
00:53:18.530 --> 00:53:21.780
They're lawyers. They craft these things called NGOs. Did you
1078
00:53:21.800 --> 00:53:24.320
ever hear of an NGO before this crap? Okay.
1079
00:53:24.880 --> 00:53:27.219
Yeah, I have, but most people haven't.
1080
00:53:27.400 --> 00:53:29.880
No, I never heard of one. And they created these
1081
00:53:30.000 --> 00:53:32.460
NGOs to be able to give money away to people,
1082
00:53:32.519 --> 00:53:34.960
but ultimately funnel it back to themselves. And there's no
1083
00:53:35.019 --> 00:53:37.940
paper trail on any of it. And, you know, they're
1084
00:53:38.000 --> 00:53:42.250
just as shocked as we are. You know, yeah, whatever. Okay. Meanwhile,
1085
00:53:42.289 --> 00:53:44.369
this is where all your campaign money was going. And
1086
00:53:44.429 --> 00:53:46.170
it's not just Democrats.
It's Republicans.
1087
00:53:46.670 --> 00:53:46.789
Mm-hmm.
1088
00:53:47.199 --> 00:53:52.699
So to me, I'm frustrated now, as I always tell people,
1089
00:53:52.739 --> 00:53:54.400
the only way to solve this problem is either with
1090
00:53:54.440 --> 00:53:56.980
a civil war or, you know, you have to control
1091
00:53:57.019 --> 00:53:57.420
the press.
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00:53:58.260 --> 00:53:58.420
Right.
1093
00:53:58.599 --> 00:54:01.059
And I think to that point, kind of as we're
1094
00:54:01.079 --> 00:54:02.960
wrapping up, too, I think it brings it back to
1095
00:54:03.420 --> 00:54:07.179
the importance of the citizen journalists and people that are
1096
00:54:07.219 --> 00:54:09.400
like on your news and people that are on pickaxe
1097
00:54:09.860 --> 00:54:15.190
to hold people accountable and. no matter who the administration is.
1098
00:54:15.210 --> 00:54:18.210
And again, I think we can separate out whether you
1099
00:54:18.230 --> 00:54:20.190
want to vote Republican or not. And even if you
1100
00:54:20.210 --> 00:54:23.510
vote Republican, we still need to put pressure on the
1101
00:54:23.570 --> 00:54:27.739
administration and the different departments to actually root out the corruption,
1102
00:54:27.820 --> 00:54:30.239
to do the things that they promised that they were
1103
00:54:30.260 --> 00:54:33.219
going to do and expose things and reveal things when
1104
00:54:33.239 --> 00:54:35.099
they don't do it. That's a part of being a
1105
00:54:35.119 --> 00:54:37.679
part of the press. If all you're going to do
1106
00:54:37.840 --> 00:54:40.730
is support your team when they get in, then you're
1107
00:54:40.789 --> 00:54:44.050
not actually in the media, you're actually a propagandist. And
1108
00:54:44.130 --> 00:54:46.050
what we need is we need to hold people accountable.
1109
00:54:46.070 --> 00:54:49.400
And that's where it's like, yeah, I voted Trump, I
1110
00:54:49.420 --> 00:54:52.800
supported getting Kash Patel in there as head of the FBI.
1111
00:54:53.159 --> 00:54:55.340
But also, we need to hold them accountable to actually
1112
00:54:55.400 --> 00:54:56.980
do the things that they said that they were going
1113
00:54:57.019 --> 00:54:59.510
to do. Because otherwise, we're just we're never going to
1114
00:54:59.530 --> 00:55:01.650
get anything done. You know, and I think if we're
1115
00:55:01.769 --> 00:55:04.929
if we have a shot at holding anybody accountable and
1116
00:55:04.949 --> 00:55:08.119
putting pressure on it would be when Our side are
1117
00:55:08.139 --> 00:55:09.739
the ones in power because the Democrats, they're not going
1118
00:55:09.760 --> 00:55:11.699
to listen to us if we expose them. They're just
1119
00:55:11.719 --> 00:55:13.610
going to pretend like it's all fake news. But at
1120
00:55:13.639 --> 00:55:16.130
the very least, with Republicans, I feel like in general,
1121
00:55:16.429 --> 00:55:19.769
if we're conservative, we have somewhat of a voice if
1122
00:55:19.809 --> 00:55:22.130
we start putting pressure because then they're like, oh, well,
1123
00:55:22.170 --> 00:55:24.090
that's our voting base. We don't want to lose a
1124
00:55:24.170 --> 00:55:27.090
segment of that population. So I think this is where
1125
00:55:27.510 --> 00:55:30.889
the citizen journalists, I think, are so vitally important to
1126
00:55:30.929 --> 00:55:33.650
the future of the country. Because they're the ones that
1127
00:55:33.690 --> 00:55:35.989
they don't owe anything to advertisers. They don't owe anything
1128
00:55:36.030 --> 00:55:38.570
to a big mainstream media outlet or things like that.
1129
00:55:39.050 --> 00:55:42.139
They can actually pursue the truth and expose it wherever
1130
00:55:42.179 --> 00:55:42.500
it leads.
1131
00:55:42.500 --> 00:55:48.500
100%. Yeah. It's decentralizing the news business is what it's doing.
1132
00:55:48.559 --> 00:55:51.500
So what I am is the aggregator of the content, right?
1133
00:55:51.739 --> 00:55:55.630
Form like a newspaper, sports, business, politics, entertainment. So it's
1134
00:55:55.699 --> 00:55:59.380
not just political dues. I have people coming for movie reviews, right?
1135
00:55:59.460 --> 00:56:01.699
I have people coming for faith-based stuff. I have people
1136
00:56:01.739 --> 00:56:03.639
that come here. We have a food and wine section.
1137
00:56:03.679 --> 00:56:08.059
I have creators that write about wine, travel, all kinds
1138
00:56:08.119 --> 00:56:11.409
of content. So it brings them all in. It draws
1139
00:56:11.469 --> 00:56:14.809
an audience. And this is what I keep saying. The
1140
00:56:14.849 --> 00:56:18.530
next mainstream media is going to be a citizen-powered press.
1141
00:56:19.070 --> 00:56:20.730
And what we're going to do is put the power
1142
00:56:20.750 --> 00:56:22.550
of the press back in the hands of the people
1143
00:56:22.610 --> 00:56:25.989
where it belongs. And the only way to do that
1144
00:56:26.210 --> 00:56:28.610
is the model that we have, right? Because you could
1145
00:56:28.650 --> 00:56:31.750
have all different walks of life reporting. And remember this,
1146
00:56:31.829 --> 00:56:34.329
the Daily Newspaper, no matter whether you liked it or not,
1147
00:56:34.730 --> 00:56:37.730
that was always the 10,000-pound gorilla for years and years
1148
00:56:37.789 --> 00:56:42.280
and years. The Chicago Tribune did, I think, $ 800 million
1149
00:56:42.739 --> 00:56:44.960
in revenue in 2000. The LA Times and the New
1150
00:56:44.980 --> 00:56:47.780
York Times in 2000 did over a billion in revenue.
1151
00:56:48.980 --> 00:56:55.230
But every single... Magazine, radio station, newspaper combined into the
1152
00:56:55.269 --> 00:56:58.550
city of Chicago didn't even get to half of what
1153
00:56:58.570 --> 00:57:02.099
the Chicago Tribune was doing. So that model works because
1154
00:57:02.159 --> 00:57:06.599
it was everything to everybody. I mean, it was sports, business, politics, entertainment.
1155
00:57:06.619 --> 00:57:11.010
So that's our model on steroids, except it now allows
1156
00:57:11.070 --> 00:57:14.489
the public to participate in the narrative, which is what
1157
00:57:14.530 --> 00:57:18.110
they want. And so as mainstream media dies, This is
1158
00:57:18.179 --> 00:57:19.849
what's going to take over. It's going to be a
1159
00:57:19.869 --> 00:57:23.210
complete citizen-powered press, but there's going to be no censorship.
1160
00:57:23.969 --> 00:57:29.090
So there's no gatekeepers. Did you know, Jeff, in newsrooms,
1161
00:57:29.849 --> 00:57:31.750
when you write a story, I mean, of course it's
1162
00:57:31.769 --> 00:57:33.960
going to go to the editor, but let's say you're
1163
00:57:33.980 --> 00:57:36.139
an investigative journalist. You've been working on a piece for
1164
00:57:36.179 --> 00:57:41.059
a year. You get this big story. It's absolutely factual.
1165
00:57:41.099 --> 00:57:43.519
You have all the documentation to prove it. Do you
1166
00:57:43.559 --> 00:57:46.519
know there's an editorial review board that could turn it
1167
00:57:46.559 --> 00:57:51.250
down for any reason? I was told this by journalists.
1168
00:57:51.269 --> 00:57:54.110
I'm like, are you kidding? It could be because it's
1169
00:57:54.130 --> 00:57:56.760
somebody's brother or cousin or maybe it's a big advertiser
1170
00:57:56.800 --> 00:57:58.900
or something like that and they won't run the story.
1171
00:57:59.519 --> 00:58:04.280
Wouldn't that drive you nuts? Think about it. Somebody told
1172
00:58:04.340 --> 00:58:06.980
me that they can even change the story to make
1173
00:58:07.019 --> 00:58:09.420
the villain the good guy because they own the rights
1174
00:58:09.480 --> 00:58:11.639
to the story you wrote because you're on their payroll.
1175
00:58:12.739 --> 00:58:15.389
I went, you've got to be kidding me. Imagine a
1176
00:58:15.469 --> 00:58:19.360
day where we've got you know, a million news reporters
1177
00:58:19.440 --> 00:58:23.780
covering news all over the United States, but there's no gatekeepers.
1178
00:58:24.099 --> 00:58:28.050
Meaning when you write the story, it comes out exactly
1179
00:58:28.110 --> 00:58:30.849
as you wrote it. And there's, you're the review board,
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you're the editor, you're the reporter, the editor, the review board.
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00:58:34.070 --> 00:58:36.630
So once you say it goes, it goes. And I
1182
00:58:36.670 --> 00:58:39.230
think this is what's going to start shedding light on things.
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00:58:39.449 --> 00:58:41.659
And this is what's ultimately going to fix the problem
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00:58:41.699 --> 00:58:43.400
because you can't put the genie back in the bottle
1185
00:58:43.460 --> 00:58:46.559
once it's out there. And the stories that gain traction,
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00:58:47.059 --> 00:58:49.679
are going to be the stuff that really matters in communities.
1187
00:58:50.320 --> 00:58:52.860
Those are going to be the ones, not the fluff stuff,
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00:58:52.940
--> 00:58:56.659
but some guy that made law firm partner at some
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00:58:56.719 --> 00:58:59.690
law firm. Nobody cares, but his wife and his mom
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00:58:59.750 --> 00:59:02.409
and dad. But you get what I'm saying. The stuff
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00:59:02.449 --> 00:59:04.630
that's going to gain traction is going to be the
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00:59:04.650 --> 00:59:07.909
stuff that's big in the community. So it's all heading
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00:59:07.969 --> 00:59:11.699
this way. And then we're what we're looking to do
1194
00:59:12.320 --> 00:59:16.059
is bring on more content creators, more news reporters. And coincidentally,
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00:59:17.260 --> 00:59:21.960
with AI taking away all these jobs, all these creator-based
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00:59:22.000 --> 00:59:26.739
platforms are growing because of it. YouTube went from 60
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00:59:26.739 --> 00:59:31.449
million to 100 million creators in two years. 115 million creators.
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00:59:31.809 --> 00:59:34.269
It's because nobody could get jobs, all these young kids.
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00:59:34.710 --> 00:59:37.050
So they're all trying to be on TikTok and Instagram,
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00:59:37.349 --> 00:59:39.809
trying to figure out a way to make money. So
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00:59:40.030 --> 00:59:44.780
this is just another creator-based platform, but it's local news.
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00:59:45.800 --> 00:59:47.920
There's your difference. So it's not you getting up and
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00:59:47.940 --> 00:59:51.099
telling jokes on TikTok. It's not the kind of product
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00:59:51.159 --> 00:59:54.840
it is. It's local news stories. So yeah, I think
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00:59:54.880 --> 00:59:58.530
we have a shot. Simply because we want to make
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00:59:58.590 --> 01:00:01.610
sure this is what becomes the next mainstream media. I mean,
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01:00:01.650 --> 01:00:04.329
it is, but we also want to keep institutional money.
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01:00:04.210 --> 01:00:04.500
Out of it.
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01:00:04.530 --> 01:00:07.369
So, you know, you're you don't have any institutional money
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01:00:07.429 --> 01:00:10.960
in your deal. I know you don't. Yep. And that
1211
01:00:11.400 --> 01:00:14.000
therein lies not you, but it lies the problem of
1212
01:00:14.039 --> 01:00:16.780
the mainstream media is owned by six institutions. It's very
1213
01:00:16.840 --> 01:00:20.380
simple to control six people in the in the, you know,
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01:00:20.519 --> 01:00:23.389
let's say in 1990, we had three options, you know, ABC,
1215
01:00:23.469 --> 01:00:27.719
NBC and CNN. Right. I mean, Fox came around in 96.
1216
01:00:27.719 --> 01:00:30.880
Today you got hundreds of millions of options from, you know,
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01:00:31.440 --> 01:00:34.619
radio to, you know, I'm talking about audio video. You
1218
01:00:34.639 --> 01:00:37.480
got all these different creators that you can get news
1219
01:00:37.519 --> 01:00:40.440
for them. So there's literally, when I say hundreds of millions,
1220
01:00:40.500 --> 01:00:43.480
it's not even a joke. Right. Yeah. So at the
1221
01:00:43.599 --> 01:00:46.550
end of the day, I think this is the only
1222
01:00:46.610 --> 01:00:49.530
way to solve the problem is to, is to become
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01:00:49.789 --> 01:00:54.309
the next mainstream media and have the people own the product. So,
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01:00:55.280 --> 01:00:57.699
I'm looking for creators. How long do we have, by
1225
01:00:57.719 --> 01:00:59.880
the way? Anytime.
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01:01:00.000 --> 01:01:03.900
We'll wrap up anytime. Yeah, there's no rush. You're good
1227
01:01:03.920 --> 01:01:06.320
to go. Because I wanted you to be able to
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01:01:06.360 --> 01:01:09.659
give a pitch for your news, for readers and users
1229
01:01:09.679 --> 01:01:10.599
and all that kind of stuff too.
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01:01:10.920 --> 01:01:15.800
Yeah. So for the audience, we're a hyper-local news platform.
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01:01:16.300 --> 01:01:18.780
Our website looks like the New York Times, Chicago Tribune,
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01:01:18.800 --> 01:01:21.360
Miami Herald. We're in every city in the United States.
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01:01:22.739 --> 01:01:25.400
We have a monetization model for creators where they could
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01:01:25.440 --> 01:01:28.199
create accounts, submit content, make money off of it. Then
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01:01:28.239 --> 01:01:30.320
a self-service ad platform where somebody could buy an ad,
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01:01:30.360 --> 01:01:32.380
target it to one zip code and everywhere in between.
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01:01:32.380 --> 01:01:36.309
20 years ago, this model would have been new. But
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01:01:36.369 --> 01:01:41.389
because of YouTube and all the other models, Rumble, Instagram, TikTok, YouTube,
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01:01:41.969 --> 01:01:45.429
everybody kind of understands platforms. So at the end of
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01:01:45.480 --> 01:01:50.789
the day, everything will become creator-based platform. Everything. And the
1241
01:01:50.849 --> 01:01:53.969
reason is they imagine having a million people, 100 million
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01:01:54.010 --> 01:01:57.380
people having channels on your network. They're all promoting their
1243
01:01:57.400 --> 01:02:01.219
own content. You're just hosting it. That's what attracts the eyeballs.
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01:02:01.619 --> 01:02:04.280
So having a single Web site for like, you know,
1245
01:02:04.320 --> 01:02:07.719
the Miami or for Schaumburg, Illinois, is never going to
1246
01:02:07.780 --> 01:02:11.309
cut it because there's no scale to it. So most
1247
01:02:11.449 --> 01:02:14.849
likely what I do will become the next mainstream media,
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01:02:15.110 --> 01:02:17.989
but it'll most likely be global. It'll be a global
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01:02:18.030 --> 01:02:20.099
media giant because for us to open up Canada is
1250
01:02:20.139 --> 01:02:21.980
just a zip code table. The UK is just a
1251
01:02:22.019 --> 01:02:26.440
zip code table. But what we're doing normally, companies like
1252
01:02:26.500 --> 01:02:30.340
this get funded through Silicon Valley, like what you're doing.
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01:02:30.360 --> 01:02:34.199
I mean, think about it. Twitter got funded from Google, Amazon, Netflix, eBay.
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01:02:34.219 --> 01:02:37.920
Venture capitalists. Yeah. So it's all venture money. And the
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01:02:38.059 --> 01:02:41.940
issue with venture money is, you know, and I, you know,
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01:02:41.960 --> 01:02:43.440
I don't know if I told you, but I got
1257
01:02:43.500 --> 01:02:47.099
an email last week from a venture fund out of Switzerland.
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01:02:47.880 --> 01:02:51.199
that understood this thing. I've never had a conversation. I never,
1259
01:02:51.480 --> 01:02:53.260
I never reached out to them. I don't reach out
1260
01:02:53.300 --> 01:02:56.340
to institutional money and they were interested in making an
1261
01:02:56.380 --> 01:02:58.889
investment in the company. And I told them we're too
1262
01:02:58.929 --> 01:03:00.469
early stage. The funny part is if you go to
1263
01:03:00.510 --> 01:03:04.190
their website, they're an early stage venture fund. So it's like,
1264
01:03:04.210 --> 01:03:06.650
they probably went, what is he an idiot? Um, but
1265
01:03:06.730 --> 01:03:09.630
here's the reason why it's because what will happen is
1266
01:03:10.659 --> 01:03:13.139
they're not interested in political control. That that's not what
1267
01:03:13.179 --> 01:03:15.179
they're doing. They're just thinking this is a good idea.
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01:03:15.699 --> 01:03:18.800
And I'm, and I'm, And I'm happy because it's one thing, Jeff,
1269
01:03:18.840 --> 01:03:20.719
if you think it's a good idea, but these are pros.
1270
01:03:21.260 --> 01:03:23.849
And every one of these companies, these all venture funds,
1271
01:03:24.610 --> 01:03:27.329
all the owners have had exits on their own. So
1272
01:03:27.369 --> 01:03:29.510
these guys know what the hell they're doing. And when
1273
01:03:29.550 --> 01:03:32.230
they step in and they like something and they apply
1274
01:03:32.269 --> 01:03:34.750
the money to it, then they start bringing in their friends.
1275
01:03:34.869 --> 01:03:38.989
But here's how it works. They're going to want an
1276
01:03:39.170 --> 01:03:42.429
equity stake that's controlled. And the reason is, and I'm
1277
01:03:42.449 --> 01:03:44.030
just going to tell you the reason why, because I've
1278
01:03:44.070 --> 01:03:47.639
seen it many times. typically the guy who's the founder
1279
01:03:47.659 --> 01:03:51.460
of the company can't execute. And so imagine you come
1280
01:03:51.500 --> 01:03:54.940
in and you give me $ 10 million and I'm just
1281
01:03:54.960 --> 01:03:57.480
screwing things up, but I own the control so you
1282
01:03:57.519 --> 01:03:59.760
can't get rid of me. And you're like, well, but
1283
01:03:59.840 --> 01:04:02.760
you're going to waste all my money, right? So it
1284
01:04:02.800 --> 01:04:05.219
makes logical sense to me that they would have the
1285
01:04:05.260 --> 01:04:06.820
ability to be able to get rid of you. And
1286
01:04:06.860 --> 01:04:10.469
so then what they do is once you start scaling up,
1287
01:04:11.190 --> 01:04:14.389
they bring in their friends at higher valuations. And so
1288
01:04:14.989 --> 01:04:16.789
Once you get it to the point, then they dress
1289
01:04:16.829 --> 01:04:18.469
these things up for the dance and then they take
1290
01:04:18.489 --> 01:04:20.840
them public. And that's where the big exits are. And
1291
01:04:20.880 --> 01:04:22.969
that's where the public gets to get in.
1292
01:04:23.460 --> 01:04:23.659
Right.
1293
01:04:23.940 --> 01:04:27.820
So by the time that happens, Jeff, I'll probably own 5%.
1294
01:04:27.820 --> 01:04:30.539
So the reason that I told them, I didn't turn
1295
01:04:30.559 --> 01:04:32.360
them down. I just said, look, we're too early stage.
1296
01:04:32.409 --> 01:04:34.489
I'd like to revisit this, you know, down the road.
1297
01:04:35.010 --> 01:04:37.409
We'll see if it's even open today. It won't matter. But,
1298
01:04:37.989 --> 01:04:40.329
you know, our creator base, I want to get that
1299
01:04:40.550 --> 01:04:43.780
to 50,000 because I told you the other day, You
1300
01:04:43.820 --> 01:04:46.829
have a platform. Your creators have a value of about 100.
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01:04:46.829 --> 01:04:53.050
Just take the 600,000 creators on X and what do
1302
01:04:53.070 --> 01:04:54.329
you pay for it? 46 billion?
1303
01:04:54.730 --> 01:04:55.769
Yeah, something like that.
1304
01:04:55.789 --> 01:04:58.489
Divide 600 million into 46 billion. That'll give you the number.
1305
01:04:59.170 --> 01:05:01.369
Facebook has 2 billion. I have no idea what the
1306
01:05:01.409 --> 01:05:03.250
value of Facebook is because it's part of meta. I
1307
01:05:03.269 --> 01:05:06.179
don't know what the market cap is. But Rumble's easy
1308
01:05:06.429 --> 01:05:08.860
because it's got a $ 2. 8 billion market cap and it's
1309
01:05:08.880 --> 01:05:11.599
got a quarter million creators. So that would make it
1310
01:05:11.639 --> 01:05:15.449
worth about 11,000 creators. Say 10, you know, it doesn't matter.
1311
01:05:15.530 --> 01:05:17.449
And YouTube is the same because they have a trillion
1312
01:05:17.469 --> 01:05:19.510
dollar value and a hundred million creators. So if you
1313
01:05:19.530 --> 01:05:21.789
take a hundred million into a trillion, it's 10,000 creator.
1314
01:05:22.449 --> 01:05:25.110
So we want to get this thing. And by the way,
1315
01:05:25.150 --> 01:05:27.369
you're always going to have more to me. I can
1316
01:05:27.389 --> 01:05:30.329
never beat you because everybody can have an X account
1317
01:05:30.489 --> 01:05:34.469
or a pick X account, but not everybody's a news reporter.
1318
01:05:34.800 --> 01:05:38.300
Like for every one news reporter, you're probably a 500 people, right?
1319
01:05:38.320 --> 01:05:40.239
Or a thousand, you know, so there's never going to
1320
01:05:40.320 --> 01:05:43.730
always be way less. But that's how these digital properties
1321
01:05:43.789 --> 01:05:45.909
are valued. So what I want to do is as
1322
01:05:45.949 --> 01:05:49.199
you scale this up, you get it to the point
1323
01:05:49.239 --> 01:05:51.500
where you've got 100,000 creators. And now if you go
1324
01:05:51.519
--> 01:05:53.900
to raise 100 million, you have a billion dollar value.
1325
01:05:54.599 --> 01:05:54.800
Right.
1326
01:05:55.139 --> 01:05:58.780
So we're raising capital doing something called an equity crowdfund,
1327
01:05:59.219 --> 01:06:03.480
which allows the public to be able to interact, not
1328
01:06:03.519 --> 01:06:07.869
just institutional money and accredited investors. So basically, I'm open
1329
01:06:07.889 --> 01:06:11.380
to everybody. And for people that are interested, you know,
1330
01:06:11.400 --> 01:06:13.260
you could go to yournews.com and go down to the
1331
01:06:13.300 --> 01:06:15.199
bottom and there's a little button that says invest. It'll
1332
01:06:15.219 --> 01:06:17.019
take you to our equity crowdfund page. It's run by
1333
01:06:17.059 --> 01:06:20.179
a broker dealer. You can spend $ 300 or anywhere in between.
1334
01:06:20.550 --> 01:06:23.110
This is how we capitalize the company to scale this thing.
1335
01:06:23.889 --> 01:06:25.610
And then there's also a way if you want to
1336
01:06:25.630 --> 01:06:27.889
be a news reporter, it'll say become a citizen journalist.
1337
01:06:27.909 --> 01:06:29.789
You could, you know, read about it, listen to some
1338
01:06:29.809 --> 01:06:32.849
videos and you can sign up, but it's your company,
1339
01:06:33.110 --> 01:06:35.210
you know, you're in a, you're in a unique situation
1340
01:06:35.250 --> 01:06:37.449
because you have funding for yours. So it's kind of,
1341
01:06:37.639 --> 01:06:40.989
it's kind of nice, but, There was a day where
1342
01:06:41.030 --> 01:06:43.550
you had your idea on a napkin, so to speak, right?
1343
01:06:43.630 --> 01:06:47.130
It was like, hey, I got this idea. And the
1344
01:06:47.190 --> 01:06:50.309
value of that idea was going to be less than
1345
01:06:50.349 --> 01:06:52.809
where it is today because it's operating, right? So if
1346
01:06:52.829 --> 01:06:55.340
you came to me and said, I need money for this.
1347
01:06:55.409 --> 01:06:56.659
And I say, well, I'll give you a half a
1348
01:06:56.679 --> 01:07:01.119
million dollars, but I want half the company. There's huge risk. Huge. Okay.
1349
01:07:01.320 --> 01:07:04.079
But by the time you get it operating and you're
1350
01:07:04.099 --> 01:07:08.190
starting to move, the risk gets less. So- as you,
1351
01:07:08.829 --> 01:07:10.829
this is just for the audience, for any company, whether
1352
01:07:10.849 --> 01:07:13.469
it's Jeff's or mine or any other company, as the
1353
01:07:13.510 --> 01:07:16.329
further you get down the road, the less risk there is,
1354
01:07:16.889 --> 01:07:19.429
the more valid, but then the higher you pay. So
1355
01:07:19.769 --> 01:07:22.500
the napkin price was a great deal when you look back,
1356
01:07:22.599 --> 01:07:24.679
but most of them fail. But then by the time
1357
01:07:24.699 --> 01:07:27.559
you got 100,000 creators, you're going, well, yours is worth
1358
01:07:27.599 --> 01:07:30.579
a billion bucks. Well, what could I have bought in
1359
01:07:30.619 --> 01:07:33.199
back here? Well, we can't go back in time. So
1360
01:07:34.119 --> 01:07:36.630
I always tell people, you know, you got to ask yourself,
1361
01:07:36.690 --> 01:07:39.010
is there a market for what I do? And then
1362
01:07:39.050 --> 01:07:41.809
the second thing would be, if you fast forward five years,
1363
01:07:41.869 --> 01:07:44.400
are we going to have less reporters or more? And
1364
01:07:44.440 --> 01:07:47.199
that's the easiest way. So if you think there's going
1365
01:07:47.219 --> 01:07:48.860
to be more than you don't want to buy in
1366
01:07:48.880 --> 01:07:50.900
when there's 50,000 creators, that gives me a half a
1367
01:07:50.940 --> 01:07:53.239
million dollar market cap, half a billion, sorry.
1368
01:07:53.579 --> 01:07:53.760
Right.
1369
01:07:54.099 --> 01:07:56.750
So anyway, that's it. Yep.
1370
01:07:56.829 --> 01:07:59.269
No, no, totally. So I'll have the link in the
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01:07:59.309 --> 01:08:00.730
show notes. People can just click in there to make
1372
01:08:00.750 --> 01:08:02.949
sure you guys are going to check out yournews.com. You
1373
01:08:02.969 --> 01:08:05.670
guys can also follow your news on Pickaxe as well.
1374
01:08:05.710 --> 01:08:07.050
Just go to at your news. You guys can do
1375
01:08:07.070 --> 01:08:09.949
that as well. But Sam, I appreciate you coming on.
1376
01:08:09.969 --> 01:08:11.630
It's a blast talking to you. We'll definitely have you
1377
01:08:11.650 --> 01:08:14.329
back on again on the regular because there's always so
1378
01:08:14.369 --> 01:08:17.210
much going on in the news. And again, you've got
1379
01:08:17.489 --> 01:08:20.060
all the news articles right there on your website. So
1380
01:08:21.069 --> 01:08:21.539
it's crazy.
1381
01:08:22.119 --> 01:08:24.739
We're now probably at 11,000 now. I think we're doing
1382
01:08:24.779 --> 01:08:27.119
a month of news stories coming in, which is nuts.
1383
01:08:27.199 --> 01:08:29.600
It's like I'm a mini newsroom with all this content
1384
01:08:29.619 --> 01:08:32.189
flowing in. So yeah, I mean, Jeff, if you want
1385
01:08:32.210 --> 01:08:33.550
me on once a month, I mean, I'm on a
1386
01:08:33.569 --> 01:08:36.329
lot of shows. I'd be happy to jump on. Absolutely. Totally.
1387
01:08:36.390 --> 01:08:39.300
Yeah. We'll definitely keep in touch and we'll get you
1388
01:08:39.310 --> 01:08:41.399
back on really soon. But I appreciate you coming on
1389
01:08:41.579 --> 01:08:43.779
and I highly encourage everybody to go check out yournews.com.
1390
01:08:43.800 --> 01:08:45.560
And if you guys are a creator, set up an
1391
01:08:45.579 --> 01:08:46.939
account and you guys can start posting your articles and
1392
01:08:46.960 --> 01:08:48.939
stuff over there. So definitely, definitely do that. But I
1393
01:08:48.960 --> 01:08:49.619
appreciate you coming on.
1394
01:08:50.180 --> 01:08:51.600
Thank you, Jeff. Good to see you.
1395
01:08:51.899 --> 01:08:54.970
You as well. Everybody else as well. Again, go to
1396
01:08:55.250 --> 01:08:58.050
your news.com. You guys can also follow them on pickaxe
1397
01:08:58.449 --> 01:09:00.609
at your news. And then as well, make sure you
1398
01:09:00.630 --> 01:09:02.130
guys are subscribing to this show. If this is the
1399
01:09:02.149 --> 01:09:03.470
first time you guys are tuning in, make sure you
1400
01:09:03.489 --> 01:09:06.029
guys are hitting that follow button over there. There's also
1401
01:09:06.069 --> 01:09:07.609
a little button over there that I think it's like a,
1402
01:09:07.670 --> 01:09:09.289
like a little bell click on that. That way you
1403
01:09:09.310 --> 01:09:11.529
guys get notified every time we go live. So you
1404
01:09:11.560 --> 01:09:13.779
guys want to do that as well. We're going to
1405
01:09:13.800 --> 01:09:16.279
be back again on Monday for another episode of the
1406
01:09:16.300 --> 01:09:18.970
Jeff Dornick show. And then Tuesday night, We're going to be,
1407
01:09:18.989 --> 01:09:21.329
we're going to be doing our election night special. I
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think we're planning on going live for several hours, but
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a massive lineup of people that are gonna be coming
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on the show. So make sure you guys are doing that.
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Also Monday is going to be interesting as well. Cause
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we have Dr. Brian Hooker from children's health defense on
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talking about how dentists are now pushing particular vaccines for
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sexually transmitted diseases. Wild story. So we're going to have
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him on, on Monday. So make sure you guys are
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doing that. And then again, if you guys want to
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support the show, Go over to supermassiveblackcoffee.com, supermassiveblackcoffee.com. Order yourself
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a bag today. Try it out. Use promo code Jeff
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at checkout. You guys will get 20% off. But, you know,
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it's the best tasting coffee you guys have. It's not bitter.
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It's not acidic. It tastes the way you always imagine
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coffee is supposed to taste, but it never quite does.
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That's why you need to go get Supermassive Black Coffee. So, again, supermassiveblackcoffee.com.
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Use promo code Jeff at checkout for 20% off. And
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that is it for today. Thank you guys so much
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for tuning in. I truly, truly appreciate it. We shall
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catch you guys next time.