Fullstendig transkripsjon av Stash or Drop: 20 Potential Waiver Wire Targets for Week 1 (Ep. 741)

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I love it baby, YouTube dot com slash Fantasy Pros again, YouTube dot com Slash Fantasy pro Subscribe there to the YouTube channel and make sure you get that into your entry for the contest to get that Kyler Murray football, which is a pretty cool thing. Thanks to for scene auctions. So Dan, these are very important guys, because in shallow leagues especially, these names are floating around the waiver wire that we're gonna talk about today. In deeper leagues that might still be drafting today tomorrow the next couple of days before the season starts, these are names you should be aware of. And we're going to break him down position by position and kind of tell you whether or not we should stash them or drop them before we do one or two notes. Also, I just want to talk about here's the league's latest news. Sa Quon Barkley. They say is unlikely to have the full workload, but he is going to play week one, so that's very positive. Your thoughts on Barkley here. I mean, this is a kind of guy that doesn't have to touch the football a million times to have a good fantasy day. But there is a weird schedule thing for people looking ahead to week two where they do play on the Thursday night. So it's no surprise that the workload's going to be managed a little bit here, at least in these first two weeks. Yeah. I talked about it a lot actually on the kickoff from this morning for the Monday morning's kickoff, because that's where everybody's questions are, right, what do I do with sa Quon? I will start with obviously, this is not a surprise. We kind of saw this coming in Doctor Chiles had a couple of weeks ago when we had him on the podcast and again we're still gonna be doing that every Friday with Doctor chilean season. He did not expect Barkley to be one hundred percent close to it or get a full workload by week one. That's just not the way things were trending. Now. If Saquon Barkley plays, you're starting him, okay, because even if he's on a limited nap count, which I expect, even if he's not one hundred percent, he can always have that explosive game. So my very very very early rankings for a week one very again, I usually I have like my very final by tomorrow, so I'll get there that then it'll be my very early final rankings. I have met thirteen at RB, So that's a guy who you're starting lower than you generally will. And I think, by the way, if you draft se Quon who to me, Joe, I don't know where you ended up with him. In draft season, I had dropped him to fifteenth over my ninth running back, but basically the tier down from the Chub Eckler sort of thing where I was taking wide receivers. It was fifteenth for me. He's a guy who you build in a slower start, generally speaking, and you hope by you know, maybe the second quarter of the season he really starts getting going. But you are starting him. It makes sense they're going to bring him along slowly and probably max outed fifteen touches. Yeah, I would be starting him, absolutely, And as far as me getting sure as of him, the further he dropped, the more enticing it was because I could immediately back it up with another running back. And I'm trying not to be shortsighted. I'm trying to look at the season as a long season. I've got many many weeks now. As long as sa Quon Barkley is deemed healthy enough to play Week one, that was good enough for me. And it seemed like things were trending in that direction. So I'd rather have sa Quon Barkley. You know those you know, last ten weeks of the season really had b sa Quon Barkley. And I'm willing to start off a little slower. But if I was going to reach as a top five pick for say Quon, that's where I struggled, because he didn't need to put that on your roster. That's where I felt. So if he fell in drafts, I was willing to take him. If he didn't, I was willing to, you know, obviously, let other people have him at four or five, which really you didn't see too much. That was more of the job, which is a great value because he's one of the few guys then that could finish top three. Yeah, especially this this weekend when I saw drafts, when I saw people posting their drafts, he was a guy who I saw going like later half of the second round.

People are now insane asially right, scared off, and look, I understand the hesitation with take him as a first round pick because I have that hesitation as well, because I think there's a realistic scenario here where that offensive line is terrible. Right. That's why when people are talking about Demante Booker, I'm like, I don't really care because if it's not the Saquon Barkley running behind like that terrible of an offensive line, I just don't want the running back because it's going to be grotesque. Barkley at his peak he can survive any offensive line, so it doesn't really matter. But I do think that the hesitation with him is warrant it. At the same time, Joe, you mentioned it, there is almost nobody, especially in that range, who's going to have his upside if he deems himself healthy even by week three or week four, don't forget what this guy can do, So he's worth the risk for me in kind of the early to mid second round. But yeah, I have moved off him as the first round or I agree with that. One other quick note, good news for the Cowboys. Dak Prescott is clear to play, so that is expected. Bad news though, they're gonna be without the right guard Zach Martin. He tested positive for COVID, so he's not going to play if Thursday's open or Also, Brandon Knight is also out. He was a close context as a backup offensive lineman. Collins as a next questionable Josh Ball and the ankle injury is on ir So they've got a lot of issues right now on this offensive line in Dallas. So it's just something to keep in mind as you're looking at matchups and potential because they're going against a very good defense, especially that front of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. So this could be a tough first game back there for Dak Prescott and this offense potentially again potentially you ever know who steps up there, but offensive line matters, and when you see this kind of injuries, especially with a quarterback you're trying to protect, it's not the way the Cowboys want to start off things. Yeah, Martin is their best offensive line and so right is that is a giant loss. And again, this is something with the Cowboys. I feel like every year it's like, oh man, their offensive line is so good and then they just deal with all the injuries. The bottom line is this Does it lower my opinion of pretty much everybody on that offense? Yeah, it does, because you're crazy if not. Offensive line is a huge issue, especially when it comes to the spread. You're gonna see the spread, by the way, continue to move up in favor of the Bucks, for sure. But you're starting Dak, you're starting Zeke, you're starting the wide receivers, like right, like, there's nothing too there's nothing actionable about this and everything like that. But I would say, Okay, this first game might not go that perfectly for everybody on the Cowboys, and just try not to freak out if it goes poorly, because again, that's a ferocious defense. You lose your best offensive lineman, that's going to be tough. But

I you know, long term, Dak looks very like totally healthy. This is kind of what we expected. And I moved him back. I moved him too. I don't know about you. I'd moved him down to quarterback six behind Rogers because I've gotten a little little worried just about the shoulder. I've moved him back up to five. I feel totally fine. Never moved him from five the entire time, stuck with him all the way through. Young man, you're a stronger man than I am. Well that's exaccurate, all right. So let's get to the stash and drops and see and test our real will here and how strong we are mentally when it comes to some of these names. And let's start with the running backs. And we're gonna start with a pair of Patriots here, which is nice alliteration and a fun way to start. JJ Taylor, who has shades of a stronger version potentially of like a Dion Lewis tied back and vermondre Stevenson, who looks like young Lagarret Blunt. So this is fascinating because this is what the Pats do. They have a style I wish you want to do things, and they find players that fit those roles as the years go by, same thing in that slot role that you know you see Troy Brown in and then Wes Welker in and then Julian Edelman and now maybe Jacobi Meyer's in. So it's fascinating to always see because you can always identify. Now, it can be a difficult backfield. We know this Dan Harris, but when it comes to Taylor and Stevenson, let's take him one at a time in PPR, if you're in a deeper league, Taylor is a little interesting to me because James White's another year older. I know last year was tough for him because obviously the tragedy with his folks, and I think mentally he wasn't quite there. But also he's another year older physically, and I wonder if you're going to see a little bit more tailor than we realize in some of these game plans going forward. First of all, I think that your opinion should matter on this more than mine because of you called the mac Jones sort of starters. Now that you have here, I can officially say great called by you, obviously, so perhaps you have a little more insight into the thinking of your favorite team, the Pajors. But here's what I will say. I like Taylor as a player. I think the way you described him as sort of a heftier. You know, dns like that. That's a really good thing to do. But the bottom line is, realistically, it's hard for me to see a path for him to provide value. Apps and James White, you're right, getting injured or not because they know what they haven't James White, he is still a very very serviceable third down back, so I do expect him to more factor in. I think you're gonna probably need to take him out of the equation almost entirely for Taylor to have value. So he's not really a guy who I'm looking forward even in PPR leagues necessarily stashing Stevenson, though I have a little bit more interesting and again not a ton We're going to talk about some other guys today. I think who I have more interested in, certainly as a stash.

But he looks great this pree Sason maybe the best of anybody in this entire preseason. But again, it's really hard to see him having a major role. Everybody loves Damian Harris myself included, I'm very excited about him. James White is going to be the third down back at the very least, so it's not like Stevenson is a pass catcher or Gunn a factor in that way. I think unless he just becomes the goal lineback, which I don't really expect Joe, like, I don't think they're gonna be like Harris get it down to the three that we're bringing in Stevenson as a hammer though maybe neither one of these guys as somebody who I'm really targeting in my drafts. I'll say this, I think Stevenson in your standard formats has a lot of value because I do think he is going to get some opportunities around the goal line. Now it might not be straight out of the gate, it might be something you also see potentially as the game goes on, like you might see third quarter, fourth quarter win defense are a little bit more tired, you might start to see Stevenson, who is a bigger physical back than Harris, and especially on the goal line, that is going to be tough to stop. And I think when defense is getting more, you know, kind of the exhaustion sets in, you're gonna see Stevenson. So he might get I don't know, ten carries, maybe like eight carries in a game, but if one of them is a touchdown to the the standard league, that's a flex play, you know, especially in a fourteen team league. So he's a guy that I think is worth having on a roster right now, and to a certain extent because of the touchdown equity he brings, maybe even more. I'm with you on Taylor. I know Adam Rank is very high on him, and I understand why. But I think we know James White's still there. It's more of a monitor guy. Let's just wait and see how it goes. He might be an interesting guy though, that we could be talking about sooner than later when bye weeks start popping, because he is somebody could pluck off the waiver wire because the Pats have a late bye, or be maybe anticipatory of it. Maybe go a week ahead, Just spend a buck instead of five or six the following week when people realize it. Right, be ahead of your bye weeks. Pick up a guy who's in a good matchup because potentially he could catch four or five balls, and he does have that explosive this where he could rip off a big play. Let's get to okay, Yeah, something else to I wanted to ask you, actually, because sometimes I liked Joe Is. I always feel like we as fantasy analysts. We talk about our thoughts on guys, but sometimes I know fantasy managers they come in to be like, okay, well what about experts is why? So let me ask you a couple of guys a rank right around Stevenson. I want to know, if you were drafting today or generally speaking, who you prefer. And I'm drafted Stevenson, so so everybody I got a couple shares. My guess is you're going to have him higer than these guys. But these are the guys right around him in my draft rankings. Okay, in half PPR again, Tony Jones Junior, I would still go Jones because he's already it's more of a it's a two persons share already. So you know Stevenson has more guys working in that rotation. How about Damien Williams, No Stevenson, Okay, just like that, all right? How about the Tyson Williams Williams. I think Williams is gonna I don't want to ruin everybody's Gus Edwards parade, I really don't, but Tyson Williams is going to get more work than I think people realize. And Tyson Williams looked good in the preseason, like he looked he looked like one of these guys that kind of pops out of nowhere, like Philip Lindsay a couple of years ago. We're all looking at each other, go, why weren't any of us all this? And I got a couple of Tyson Williams shares. The only JJ Taylor share I have is in a sixteen team league, which, again, when you're that deep and some people were playing that, and if you're in the sixteen team league, I think you could do worse on your bench than a guy like Daylor, especially if it's a PPR format. I think you're okay there. I think it's totally fine in the sixteen team league. Okay, So I have all three of those guys slightly ahead of Stevens and but that that's it sounds like that's basically the range. And interesting, by the way, with Williams, I do expect them to a fact her in, but I'm sort of baking that into my Gus Edwards projections. Then he still comes out right like I'm not saying Gus Edwards. I get it. I get the whole thing is that Gus Edwards just has that little twinge of if guys were this little od addage, I'm gonna use a baseball thing just for a moment, just for a metaphor. If relief pitchers were any good, they'd be starting pitchers. Yeah, I get backup running backs were all that good, they'd be starting running backs. There's a reason why they don't have the job. And sometimes backups show up, and then sometimes the third string guy like a James Robinson shows up. I nowhe has a great season. These things do happen, but typically speaking, there's a reason the depth chart exists. Sorry, that's fine, No, No, this is amazing. I just stunned Dan Harris. Dan Harris has nothing to say. I love Gus Edwards. I've always loved Gus Edwards. And I think that the fact that Gus Edwards is the quote unquote second running back on a team that runs the ball a ton and likes to split up there they're running back and Jabs is totally totally fine with me. And again, I think the bottom line with Edwards is like, there was no plan for Gus Edwards to be a guy in this offense when he joined the team, right, They didn't. Yeah, No, It's not like he was like, Okay, we've got this guy. He just worked his butt off to get to a point where he was like, oh, you guys have to play me because I'm gonna average more than five yards per carry and I'm gonna be one of the highest graded running backs in BFF. So for me, I'm more excited about every fence that most people put. I'll on it. If it goes south, I'll on it. I don't think it's

gonna go south. I just don't know if it's got quite the upside some other people might think. And let me be frank here. I was driving the Gus bus hard last year, man like and every Waiver Wire show for a week's go and pick this guy up. Pick this guy up. Please be ahead of time. And then by the time you know, he's like, where were you a month ago? And I was telling you pick this guy up. Be proactive when it comes to Waiver Wire. Let's get to another situation here. Let's talk about Justin Jackson. I want to throw Larry Rountree in this too. In this conversation. You know, historically speaking here when we're talking about the chargers, you know they're always looking for somebody else in this backfield that's not named Austin Ekeler right now? So do you have any love for Jackson Roundtree? I mean, Kelly put the ball in the ground way too much last year. I don't want to talk about him. What are your thoughts here? I don't really want any of them, Joe, and I think had Roundtree not made the roster, I would have had a little more interest in Jackson, though not a ton because he just can't stay healthy. And he hasn't even been healthy this preseason anyway, so it's not as if we can go there. But yeah, you've got all these guys on there. Maybe one of them emerges, but my inclinations that none of them emerges, right, and then Eckler is going to be the only guy. Not that none of them will get work, but that all of them will get work enough so that when you're talking about taking the small piece of the pie and then you're dividing that small piece of the pie into three, that's just not going to be so for me. Is it possible that Jackson has a winds up having a lot about you this year? Sure the Chargers do like him despite his injury, concerns, but again, holding on to Roundtree and maybe that's just the injury makes me think that I just I don't see it happening any of the guys not named Austin Neckler in that back nd. All, right, let's see if we can get another one in here before. I want to talk about this next guy here, because Yates has talked about him a ton, and I understand the thought process here with Rashad Penny, but I also struggle with the concept of a player who's been in the league this long and I just haven't seen anything that really makes me feel like he's going to be fantasy were the outside of catastrophic injury to Chris Carson, which Chris Carson's had injury issues in the past. So is Rashad Penny a guy you have any shares of? And is this a guy that people should be looking at to stash in drafts? Yes, and yes, I have a lot of shares of Rashad Penny, and I think that people should be trying to make sure that they draft him regardless of if they roster Chris Carson. I mean, here's the bottom line with Rashad Penny. First of all, it was Obviously he's dealt with some injuries in his career. You might say that any end injury again this preseason, I think it was a thigh that costs him a lot of time. But he sounds like he's back healthy right now. They declined this fifth year option, so he's going to be a free agent after this here, so he is motivated to play well. But again, forget about the draft capital, the dumb draft capital that they used to take him, Like that was a stupid decision at the time, regardless Penny's talented. Joe like, I don't know about you, I really really like what I see from him when he is on the field, and I think people forget in twenty nineteen, at the end of twenty nineteen, before he suffered the injury that basically cost him all of last year two, he had essentially taken over at least half. He had a split backfill with that with a couple of monstrous games, if not the entire thing, because he is talented. Chris Carson himself is injury prone, has yet to play a full sixteen game season in his career, and he got over the funnel issues. Hopefully he doesn't rear its head again. But there was a point a couple of years ago where they were ready to bench Chris Carson because of the funnel issues, because of all that, and there is a path right now. Yes, he is an insurance policy back, but we are drafting other interance policy backs like a Madison in ton of College, so he is in that. I mean I have him rank I'm looking at my rankings right now. I have him ranked one spot behind Alexander Madison. Who's your favorite of those insurance policy running back? Pollard? A Pollard? By actually, I a Pollard forty first. I have Madison forty ninth and Rashad Penny fiftieth, so they go, that's like sort of the same range. But Pollard, it's just because Pollard is the guy that we have seen. But one of my favorite memories from last year, by the way, is when Zeke was randomly out for that game whatever week that was late in the season, and Tags and I are furiously messaging each other about where to rank them, Like it was like a twenty minute back and forth that thing with me and tag Zoo, and then we settled on something, and Yates is doing his livestream and he's like I don't know what to do with it, and blah blah, but it was anyway, it was one of my favorite things with text. But regardless, I think he's right there though, Joe, like I think the upside is enormous. If anything happens to Chris Carson. I think it is unlikely because I think Chris Carson is an outstanding back. But I think Joe, it is within the range of possibilities that eventually Chris Carson fumbles a little bit or gets a little nicked up, Penny comes in and he absolutely dominates and has like a big, big couple of games and carves out a role for himself. So for me, I'm drafting, We're shot Penny everywhere. I think he's a guy who everybody should target towards the end of their drafts, and he's basically free. I'm with you on the Pollard thing. Pollard's a guy that I got a lot of shares of, especially because you know, I have my concerns at least about Zek. It's not that he can't draft Zek. You know what's funny, I've seen Zeke fluctuate quite a bit. Yeah drafts have he's noticed this lately. I

have him within three weeks ago. This was not the case. Dan Harris, I've seen him go in second rounds and I'm not talking super flex. I'm talking like it has been crazy for me. I saw one or two when I was like, wow, I can't believe that. So for me, he's been locked in at five forever. And what's funny, Joe is I have my last my home league, my last draft every year Wednesday night before the season, at eight thirty, I have the fifth pick. So I'm like, well, I'm getting Zeke, Like, obviously that's my number five running back. I assumed the top four going to be the consensus top four, and for whatever reason, I'm trying not to let like the group think influenced my the way I am, but I agree. I have suddenly seen him sort of slowly moving a little bit down. Not to the second. God, I've never seen that, but I saw I saw one or two the ten team pprs. So you saw like the wide receivers go. You saw like the people wanted to start with Adjec, Adams, digs Hill instead. And I understand that, like lock in that wide receiver probably not gonna get hurt as much. I get that it's not me. It's still not me. Man, he's still five for me. I'm taking him at five again. To our point about Martin and the first game, I'm gonna be a little a little nervous and that Follard is gonna work more in that game, I think that people realize we'll see, well, I don't care about Pollard more about the fact that I don't know how much how much ground I think is gonna gain here without that with that offensive line. But it's fine, everything's fine, fine, everything's fine, everything's find. But the dog in the firehouse that is my entire life, is the dog with the fire going and saying this is fine. But regardless, I think I do think Pollard is is very obviously a clear cut up. But in terms of Alexander, Madison and Penny like those are really the three guys for me, and Pollard a little bit of a cut above. As we said, who I'm targeting as turns policy backs because again J said it last week on it, which is correct, which is then your running back philosophy should be to fill your bench with the high upside guys who can be stars. If anything happens to the running back in front of them right for me, that is definitely penny. Yeah, all right, there you go for you move on to the next running back. Here. I want to tell you all about the fact that football is almost here and there's no better place to get it and get in on the action than Draft Kings, official daily fantasy partner of the NFL. As the season is quickly approaching, Draft Kings use your one stop shop to make it rain all season long to bring you even closer to the action. DraftKings is now making this available to new players a free shot and a million dollars during Week one. If you haven't tried Draft Kings yet, preseason is the perfect time to test your strategy. It's simple. 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Let's talk about another running back that is getting a lot of buzz here in the preseason, and it's starting to get some buzz on some fantasy benches too. I want to know if you think you a Hubbard is worthy of stashing or dropping in terms of their attention in fantasy football in twenty twenty one, I've seen a lot of Hubbard all of a sudden start to pop on a lot of teams, and I can understand why. But do you think this is really the best way to use your draft capital latent draft? I think it's fine. I mean, we saw what happened with Mike Davis last year, and you know, as much as obviously Mike Davis has kind of been my dude this entire season. I was not thinking about him whatsoever last year, and he was not drafted anywhere, you know, at all last year. I remember because I picked him up off waivers. Certainly when Cim got hurt as a rookie, it's hard for me to imagine that he's going to step in and if something happened to McCaffrey and take a giant, giant like the whole role, especially as Mike Davis did. But I think it's fine. He's well below for me the Madison Penny tier, because again, I don't expect anything to happen to McCaffrey where suddenly Chuba Hubbard comes in and is just dominates the touches, every touch, and they rely on him like that just because he's a rookie. So fine is a very late round pick. I don't have any shares of him, and I don't really feel that bad about him. All right, let's close things out with two jets here, Ty Johnson Tevin Coleman. So obviously, you know, I think Michael Carter is the guy that we'd all like to be the guy in that backfield sooner than later, but it's a long season September, there is going to be some sort of rotation here. Do you see any upside to stashing Tevin Coleman, Ty Johnson, any of those guys worthy of a roster spot for you at least in September, especially maybe if you know you missed out on running back or maybe you you know, have a couple, maybe you drafted JK. Dobbins right and he got to run your roster? Is Tevin Coleman somebody or Ti Johnson somebody in week one or two you want to have on a roster or maybe throw in for a start. I mean, if you

drafted JK. Dobbins and you're grasping at Stiles, then anybody with the pulse it's fine to go. But otherwise otherwise, no, I don't know what we're going to see necessarily from this Jets backfield. Again, with Lafleur in San Francisco, the highest percentage of rush attempts that any running back had, you know, because we know over a season was thirty six percent and the average thirty percent. They want to run a timeshare, maybe Michael Carter, who's the most talunted back there, breaks away from it late in the season, which is why I don't mind drafting him, But early on, I think it's going to be a committee. Right now, I have no real interest in any Jets running back other than Carter, and even that I'm thinking late in the season. All right, let's move on to the wide receivers here, and let's start with Russell Gage, who is a player that I've drafted quite a bit. I'm happy to take Russell Gauge. I understand that Russell Gauge might have a cap to the ceiling, but I feel like he's not being appreciative enough as bench de wide receiver. I love him as a stash. Dan to you, Yeah, this is what we talked about last week, where I basically said, not everybody has to be a home run at wide receiver. Right, Your bench wide receivers do not have to be necessarily a home run. I agree with you. Here's a pretty hard cap on his upside. He'll get targets and everything like that, but he is not designed to be a perimeter wide receiver. He doesn't have the separation, so I don't expect him to Wow, look at this, all these targets there there, blah blah. I don't expect that, but he's the number two wide receiver in this offense. It's worth something. I completely agree with you, Joe. He's a good guy to have. Don't start him obviously anywhere close to wide receiver three, but as a bench guy, as a fill in if you have an injury and you need somebody to go. There not a home run play, but it's a singles play that you're gonna be like, Okay, this guy's gonna get me a single. Sorry, we're all baseball today, But yeah, I agree. Yeah, why is that? It's just because you and I were alone, all of a sudden we revert back to baseball metaphors. Is that what we're doing? I guess, I guess. I mean the Falcons are gonna throw the ball at times the defense is terrible. They're guns still throw the ball. I don't care who the new coaches and new oc and all that stuff. They're still gonna be down and that defense is still gonna put him in a hole. So Russell Gage has some value, especially in the deeper leagues. I think the only like if there's a worry about him. And the reason why I feel like I keep him down in my rankings is like, look, Arthur Smith, he doesn't run a bunch of three wide receivers sets. So if Gage really does struggle on the perimeter, I could see him losing his like starting outside role, which obviously wouldn't be good for him. But it's not like they have a ton of wide receiver depth anyway. So yeah, he's a guy who I we do so many mock drafts. When we draft him,

it's a he's like yeah, okay, yep, all right, nice comforting exactly. I always feel good about it. I never go, oh no, Russell Gage, I go okay, yeah, sure, Russell Gauge. And there are there are time times where your team needs that. There are a lot of times when your team needs that, and ability is a good thing. And I think everybody wants to shoot the moon and I think it's not necessary. So Gauge, absolutely I am taking. And again he's somebody who we talk about how you take like one of your last round pick. Do you want to know after week one is this guy gonna work out? And if not, you can drop him. There is value in that actually, and I'm sure we'll talk about a couple of those guys. Gage is not that guy. Gage is a guy who you're just like, I'm just drafting. It's gonna be like my wide receiver form. I'm going to hang on to him and then you know, if he doesn't do much Week one and we find I'll live. All right. Let's talk about Nelson Agalore. He's another guy that kind of goes in that same range late wide receiver. Look. Agalore outperformed anyone's expectations last year. He went on a fantastic run there about six weeks where he's just scoring touchdowns all over the place. I like him more with Mac Jones, I still don't like him as much as I like Jacobe Myers. Potentially, in this offense, I think Aglare will have some moments, But once again, this is more of a deeper league stash for me. In a twelve team league, I still think you could do better than Agalore, But in a fourteen team league, I'm okay with the stash. How about you for Agalore? Yeah, I think I feel basically the same way you do. I mean, you know he's gonna drop balls, right like, that's just how he rolls, It's got like a fifty nine percent catch right last year, so that's going to happen. But again, the deep targets, I think he's going to maintain that deep threat that he'll be for the Patriots. There will be a couple of games that he'll go off, but it's it's Myers and then it's a long drop down to really anybody else. Agalore would be the next guy. So for me, like, you know, you're in a sixteen team league. Great, fourteen team league, very late great in a twelve team league, though, I just can't see it, Joe, Like last year was so unexpected. I just I don't think he's worth your time. But again, in a fourteen team league, there will be a couple of weeks where Nelson aglore Is going to catch like a seventy yard touchdown and you'll be elated. But for the most part, I'm ignoring. Yeah, buy a week filler waiver wire guy. I think that's where you're looking at Agalore. Jalen Rager, this is another one too where I'm starting to change my tune. This is why it's important to not just see the stats, but to watch. I like what I've seen so far at a Jalen Rager this offseason, much more than last year, and obviously we didn't have one, but even earlier in the season last year, I just didn't like what I saw it or Jalen Rager. But we can now attribute that greatly to the offensive line, to Carson Wentz all of that. So I'm gonna kind of give him a pass here and say, year two wide receiver had a ton of talent, very highly regarded in the NFL draft process. So Raiger is a guy for me that's actually I didn't have any early shares of but a bunch of late shares in recent drafts, and I actually curious to see how good of a start he can get off too, because some of these matchups we talk about the Eagles early on or I'm not that bad. So if it doesn't happen right away, I feel like he's that perfect guy where if it does, it's great. If it doesn't, you can cut him and move on, but you have nothing to lose. Yeah, it's interesting, Joe the way you described it, because I'm sort of the opposite, not that I'm off him necessarily, but just more that I found myself drafting him a lot early on in the draft season, not as much lately, and that might be fantasy managers being a little more excited about him than they were because he was completely free at that point. Right, And again, there were a couple of what he was terrible last year, like everybody on the Eagles was because they were terrible. Carson Wentz was terrible, The offensive line is terrible. But didn't play well. I would admit I was very high on Ragor. He did not play well personally. Then he failed the conditioning test early on, but again that was something where he had a personal issue. So completely fine, and he has looked really, really good in camp. He's got kind of the guaranteed role. He's got the new coach and the new system. So he is somebody who I want to see what he looks like, especially you mentioned the early season schedule. They get Atlanta, San Francisco, Dallas. Like Atlanta especially, like, let's see what he does in week one, right, Let's see what that looks like against Atlanta. Let's see how that goes. But with Earth's there, Joe, that that's kind of something that kind of pushed down a little bit because again I assumed early on in the season that Earth's was probably gonna be traded and it would just be like, Okay, it's gonna be Goddard, it's gonna be Devanta Smith, and it's gonna be Ragor. With Earth's there, I think he's gonna take away some targets from it. There were questions about Hurts passing, so I found myself drafting him a little less and less lately, but still not a bad guy. Let's see how it goes, especially week one. All right, before we get to the rest of the wide receivers, I want to tell everybody about Pristine Auction. That's right. 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You could also buy me a Nick Chubb autograph jersey, and I promise you I will put it right behind me at any point in time. But the only way you can get in on the process is to go to Pristine Auction dot com. Again, that's pri sti ny auction dot Com. Dan Harris, Yes, dare I ask you Emmanuel Sanders stashing this year. I don't know if you've heard of him. He's new to the league. He's only forty seven years old. Yeah, but your fascination with Emmanuel Sanders is fascinating to me, Dan, and I'm not sure where it came from, but I'm loving it. I am actually find myself rooting for Emmanuel Sanders now because of how long this has gone on, and I can't believe we're here. I like, you know, old people who get buy mostly on gile that that's kind of a jam, right, It's not how I have this job. So here's the deal with Emmanuel Sanders. Again, we talked about not needing to shoot the move very quickly, because I've talked about important not in the moon. You know, when they targeted him so much, I don't mean like the football targets. I mean like targeting to sign into their team. I think they want him. I think they see a role for him. He didn't decline nearly as much as people kind of thought. And again, even if you like the Gabriel Davis, you know, chatter even if you think that's going to be it, even if you think Cole Beasley is going to remain on the team and not have issues with his whole vaccination status. The Bills ran the second most forward receiver sets in the league last year, Like, there will be room for Sanders. This is again a guy who's very much I'm trying to like. He's a couple of spots from me, Joe behind Russell Gage, a couple of spots. Okay, I've view him very similarly. Okay, I've view as a guy who's probably gonna get enough work to matter. He is never gonna get enough work, never going to be a superstar, to be the guy who you're like, Man, I have the steel and my league winner is Emmanuel Sanders. But you don't always need that late in your draft. So yes, I have many shares of Emmanuel Sanders. I urge you to join me on the Emmanuel Sanders train. It's a kind of boring ride, but you don't hate yourself afterwards. We should do a show next year called zero Shares. We talk about the players we have zero shares of. I have zero shares of Emmanuel Sanders. I almost everybody out there heads zero shares because no, probably I've seen it. I saw it in the discord. Yet I saw I saw Manuel Sanders shares on some of the screenshots of rosters that I can only think that those were relatives of yours. They are And this is also a last like it's a last round it just to be clear, No, of course round. We're talking about Stash here a very good fine. I have all the Gabriel Davis, and I'm still going down that train. I can see Emmanuel Sanders being useful too, because not forget even put aside the vaccination stuff with Cole Beasley for her second anyway, and just talk about he's thirty two. Is he gonna see one hundred targets again? At age thirty two, He's got a little bit more tread on the tires. Those guys who you know, work in the middle of the field take a lot of shots. Beasley's taking a lot of shots over the years. Those guys don't typically age well. So Emmanuel Sanders I think is a very important insurance policy because I think it's an important part of that offense. So I think he potentially hurts more Cole Beasley status than he does necessarily Gabriel Davis, which is why I keep always pushing over to Davis, because I feel like that's the guy you're looking for in the red zone. Now because it's gotten, it's become a thing. Now, I'm rooting for Emmanuel Sanders in some weird way, Like one, if Emmanuel Sanders has two touchdowns, I cannot wait to come on to a show with you. I might just like storm into the kickoff and just be like Dan Danny, Emmanuel said, there's like how good he was. I might say the realized right, Like I can't. Like, there will be no victory laps on Emmanuel Sanders even if he does really well until the very end of the season. If things because he could have two touchdowns in Week one, which he probably won't, but he could have two touchdowns in week one and then do nothing the rest. There will be no victory laps on Emmanuel Sanders. But I'm running for you. If you ever want to come on this podcast, I got your back. Yeah, Manuel, we love you, come on. That's a personal it's just about fantasy value. I remember that Sammy Watkins Week one a couple of years ago, or although Sammy Watkins truthers, which I hate that phrase, but all those truthers were out there and Twitter, and then he never saw him again the rest of the season. That was fine. I'm not kidding, man, this is a good, good lesson for everybody. Do not go crazy over a week. When I say last week, our job is to be I mentioned it. I mentioned it again. It's like ten players to fade at their ADP. I did a video for our YouTube channel, YouTube dot com slash fan Surprise make sure you subscribe last year, and it was ten players to fade at their ADP. Number one was Mark Andrews, who had two touchdowns right off

the bat, and our wonderful senior video producer, Chris What's basically like, Yeah, you got a little bit of hate going on right now in our YouTube channel. They are calling you mean names, and I'm like, I get it. And then again it turned out that Mark Andrews is a very clear fade at his ADP even after that game. So don't overreact to week one. Everyone, don't overreact, all right, t Y Hilton, Is that a guy you want to stash at his age with the injury already, with the circumstance at quarterback, all kind of influx right now. I struggle here. I've seen t Y Hilton fallen drafts so much that it kind of hurts my soul. But I can't seem to pull the trigger. Dan. Is he a stash to you or a guy you're avoiding? No, I mean I am zero shares of t Y Hilton. I don't ever consider drafting him whatsoever. With this. I was before the synjury like he was a very late round pick for me. But we know he's gone at least three games. Sounds like he'll be back after that. But you're already down three games for a guy like t Why Hilton. He has had zero time really to get acclimated with Carson Wentz. So when he comes back, it's like Hi meet each other, try to figure out how to be a wide receiver in a quarterback. There's just there's no reason for me to draft to Whilton completely off my board. Rondel Moore, AJ Green, two guys are the same team here now. Rondel Moore, I've got some shares of late because I look at this circumstance and I go, Okay, it's gonna be somebody else. And at this stage in the game, I'm going to roll the dice on the kid. It's a younger person's game. It's just what I'm gonna do. Aj Green has had health issues last couple of years. AJ Green is a very talented player, but like a lot of wide receivers, when you get into your thirties, there the decline starts to set in. So I'm on the moor side and I do like stashing him. I don't see any reason to stash aj Green, do you. Yeah, I'm in agreement with you. I mean, I have a lot of more. He's like a perfect late round guy. Again, we talked about a guy, so you should know early whether or not they're going to explode. And again, even if he doesn't win the slot role at I said, the Bills run the second most four ward receiver sets in the league. The Cardinals run the most four ord receiver sets in the league. So again they look like they were trying to get involved with Greens. It's not Joe out of the realm of potential outcomes that AJ Green has a good season. I mean that the Cardinals target their wide receivers all the time. Sixty five last year, again, they run four ward receiver sets. They paid them a decent amount. I think eight million dollars stuff like that. So it's possible that Green has an okay season, but yeah, I just can't do it. Like he's seventieth on my board, so that that's at the point where I'm not really looking at you whatsoever. I just don't like investing a players at that age. It kind of comes back to t Y Hilton. It's like you can't live in the past. It's very difficult, especially

because if you've been playing Fantasy a long time, you see that name, you'd have good feelings because that player won you championships, one, you money, you know, over the years, and I understand it's very hard to kind of break those relationships over time. But if the history has taught us anything it's to try to steer away from those players as they get to this point in their career because more often than not, they become useless to you unfortunately, which is very difficult. It's the last thing you want. You want bench players to be useful, either have value in your lineup or value to somebody else, because then you can make a trade and pull something off if you have Indeed, so that's what your bench is for. Don't forget that. Stop living in the past. All right, let's get to some quarterbacks here. Let's start with Daniel Jones. This was the player that got a lot of buzz kind of early draft season, and I was, I don't know, I'm still keep going back to the turnovers. And would you know it, the last preseason game where we watched him, he had that great drive all the way down there and then throw a pick in the end zone and everyone was, Yep, that's Daniel Jones. That was quit essential Daniel Jones. The moment where you could watch him going entire you have really good drive, outstanding, no sake one on the field. He looks really good, He's throwing the football well, moving around the pocket, and then he throws a pick in the end zone. And that is what crushes you in fantasy, Dan, because you only have a finite number of opportunities to get that score, to get those fantasy points, whether it be for Jones or anybody else. And this is why I struggle with the Giants as a collective for the most part. But Daniel Jones some people still like as a second QB in super flex. Dan Harris, how do you feel about Daniel Jones. I am not comfortable starting Daniel Jones is my second QB in a super flex format or in the two QB league. Bottom line is this, I feel like for the second quarterback, I want either stability or I want the upside, and Daniel Jones to me gives you the possibility of neither. I mean, look, he rushes, okay, he had thirty rushing yards average over thirty rushing yards the game last year. That's fantastic. They added Ken Galladay, Saquon Barkley will be back. They drafted Darius Sonny Yay. That offensive line is abysmal. Jones's decision making has been pretty questionable throughout and frankly, I didn't buy him necessarily as an NFL starting caliber quarterback when he was drafted. He has done nothing to make me think that he is now again, Daniel Jones better at playing football than I'm at anything in my life. But for me, there's just there's nothing intriguing for me that makes me want to draft Daniel Jones even as a second QB. I have an outside that random fifth as a third quarterback, I'm fine, I'm out. I only have an eighth quarterback. Quarter but no, I'm kidding. Yes, as a third quarterback, anybody who could throw a path in the NFL, it's fine. Again, he's twenty fifth, so he's outside the range, right, He'll probably provide some value with his legs, like a little bit again, But yeah, I just I'm glad they added Kenny Galladay that that should theoretically make a difference, and again a healthy saque. But that offensive line is so bad. And when you combine that offensive line, you know, won the worst in the league with a quarterback who a has fumbling issues, maybe not repeatable whatever, but also generally speaking, has had kind of some rough decision making moments. I just it's a horrible recipe. So I just can't imagine the upside. I can't imagine disability. I'm out, all right, Well, I'll gonna make you feel better in New York fans because Zach Wilson. I actually feel better about than I did going into this season. I had a lot of questions, and I was not bashful about those questions. He answered a lot of them. For me. I feel really good about Zach Wilson right now. I still am concerned with the schedule. I keep coming back to that. I think what you saw in preseason was encouraging, But once you get out there on the field and you see what's going to happen to him with the defense he's going to have to face on a regular basis, it's going to be a little bit more of a struggle. But it's a third quarterback. I'm really good with stashing him, especially if you do miss out on that you know, really exciting third quarterback or a late second quarterback run that's out there in super flex out Now, I'm okay with Wilson is my third guy, and you know he's gonna play because there's no other options there. I could live with him as a very very low end second quarterback in one of these leagues because again, the biggest point, Joe, of everything that we talked about is the fact that there is nobody behind him. Okay, this is Zach Wilson's job right from the start. You know he's out there. I don't think you can say the same about Daniel Jones, by the way, like Daniel Jones doesn't matter. They could just be like, I can't do this anymore with Jones. Wilson is going to be the starter, and I agree with you. I don't understand really what optimism feels like necessarily, but I imagine it's kind of the tingling feeling that I'm getting right now when I'm thinking about my Jets and watching Wilson. He's got the arm, he can run, he's got pass catches. They invest a lot with the offensive line. They've got Corey Davis, one of our favorites. Obviously, they've got Elijah Moore, jameson Cratter is dealing with you know, COVID issue whatever, but they've got killing cold Dunzel Mims. He'll have weapons, good offensive coordinator, good coaching staff. Again with the job security, Joe. Like, as I'm saying, it's like the very last QB two that you can kind of roll with. But I'd certainly prefer him to Jones because there is upside. If everything goes right, there is upside. So he's a guy who I'm willing to roll with again. Low end at that point rank, there's three guys for me, Mac Jones,

Daniel Jones, Zach Wilson. Mac Jones, Daniel Jones, Zach Wilsons. Okay, I had Zach Wilson's first. We're talking quarterback. Yeah, we're not talking safety here. Yeah, safety quarterback, Yeah, fantas quarterback for this season, I've got Wilson, Joan, Daniel Jones, Mac Jones. That's how I have ranked. It's the bottom wive with mac Jones is look. I like Mac Jones actually a lot, but I think they're they're gonna be pretty conservative this year with the Patriots. That's just my expectation of so I think the upside of Daniel Jones kind of surpasses that in that. Again, I don't see the upside to be a starting caliber quarterback. But really with me, Mac Jones, I just it's very difficult for me to ever see him even giving you more than maybe one maybe two weeks throughout the season where he's going to be worth starting. Even in two quarterback leagues. I can see Daniel Jones doing that a couple of times at least just based on his legs alone. I have them back to back to back. Actually my rankings end. If you want to see how I rank them, make sure you subscribe to the YouTube channel and our quarterback video that I did is coming out I think sometime today or tomorrow, or I rank them all so teaser. That's why or you could just go to fancy pros and look at my rankings too, but you know, look it's there. They're right there. So it's interesting conversation. It was just curious about your time. Yeah, and again I can let me see if I have the very quickly started to take us off. I'm looking at my projections show because that's also what I like to Yeah. I mean, if you've got Zach Wilson and Daniel Jones and Mac Jones, the difference between them on the season, it's like between all three of them, it's like three points. Well it's fourteen fansy, So I mean when i'm sort of but again, this is when when people are to me, it's like Wilson has the highest ceiling by far, and Jones to me, just based on what I've seen, has the lowest ceiling. That's why I'm been all three are the better third quarterbacks. Like, if you're looking for that third QB for two weeks, you're gonna start in super flex and make an investment in all three I think are worthy of that. But if you have to start them for an extended period, you're going to be in a problem. Let's talk about deeper quarterback leagues. Right, let's talk about a fourteen team league where these guys are in the fringe. Let's talk about Kirk Cousins Derek Carr. Are these quarterbacks that you want on your roster? I say yes to both of them. You just have to be patient with Kirk Cousins because September historically last two years have been dreadful for him. And then after that he flips a switch. I don't know what happens. I guess he likes pumpkin spice lattes or something. I don't know what goes on with Kirk Cousins, but all of a sudden he turns things around in the month of October. And then he goes on and this is true last year, and it's true of the year before he goes on, like a ten game stretch Dan work, he

has the same numbers as Russell Wilson two years ago, and you're looking good. How can this be? And then all falls apart at the end because it's Kirk Cousins. But for a stretch run, at least Cousins is very good and car although limited yet again, I think it's going to be around four thousand yards this year. I think he's going to be somewhere around twenty eight touchdowns or something like that. And that's perfectly fine if you if you want to, even in those deeper quarterback leagues, be aggressive on fields or Lance or Trevor Lawrence and then get one of these guys as a backup, I think you could do a lot worse. Yeah, so I don't have either one of these guys. They're not ranked for me as a starter at quarterback and a fourteen team the leaear or anything like that, but I do think that they are both extremely extremely serviceable options, certainly as backups. And if you got forbid, he got to stock with them in a you know, a fourteen or six. I mean car Car is underrated, like from a real life perspective and a family fantasy perspective. At QB thirteen last year, at QB seventeen the year before, He's never gonna hurt you. Forty one hundred yards, twenty seven touchdowns, just nine picks last year. That's good, but again they're there's no upside, right, there's no real plausible path for Derek Carr to suddenly finish as like a top ten QB. They just don't have the wide receivers right now on that team. But I would prefer him to Cousins. Cousins last year, man, You're right, he went on that crazy stretch, especially at the end. He was the eleventh QB and overall incredible year forty two hundred passing yards, thirty five touchdowns to thirteen picks. But Andy, they bolsted the offensive line. My worry a little bit with Cousins is kind of threefold. Number One, that lost IRV smith Junior, which I know is not like a huge crazy deal, but it is something like we liked Irv Smiths. We thought he was going to be good. The defense is going to be better this year. I mean, they were bismo last year, so Cousins had to go and throw a ton, you know they you know they've got hunterback. They added Patrick Peterson, so they've got that. And the third Joe is I've brought this up a couple of times. I think it's silly if we ignore it. The fact is we know exactly what Kirk Cousins is talking about with vaccinations and stuff like that, and if we know that a player is not vaccinated, we do know that that is going to add to the risk he's probably going to miss a game just because of what the protocol. So for me, that knocks Cousins a little bit back. I actually have Cousins Frankedins my twentieth quarterback on the year, because I do find myself taking fit Patrick, Carr, Winston, Matt Ryan too over him. So that's just where I've come out on Cousins. But you can can't put fitz Patrick over him. Roethlisberger, I can understand car I can understand I can even understand Baker Mayfield to a certain extent if you want to really knock him down all the way. But I think that's I've got him at fourteen And just so people don't think I'm completely crazy. September of twenty nineteen, Cousins through three touchdowns, two picks, one hundred and eighty three passing yards per game. Right, So, just to give you a kind of an idea, this was September twenty nineteen. For the next two months, Kirk Cousins through eighteen touchdowns, one pick with a two eighty eight passing yards per game. Okay, pretty pretty significantly different. First six games of twenty twenty eleven touchdowns, ten picks two forty five yards per game over the next ten games, twenty four touchdowns three picks two seventy nine per games. So I know this because I do the quarterback right up. That's like, these are these are the things I have quick access to. But I'm just down you if it gets off to a bad start again and you're you're needful of quarterback help, don't be discouraged by a slow start by kirk Cousins. Yeah, because you might be able to acquire him at a trade and you might get the October pumpkin spice latte Kirk Cousins, which is far better the foliage starts to turn. You're absolutely right about you know, the concerns with any of any of the unvaccinated players because there's a risk of them missing time. But you know some players you could take more of a risk on than others. So I just I do want to get to a point to you in your favorite Joe is that you know you acted like, oh I have them fourteen, that's crazy. That is closer to our expert consensus ranking, which has him at QB sixteen. Then I have him at QB twenty, So you are much more in line of the conventional thinking, so I don't think you really even need to defend yourself with it. And again, when I started my process, I think cousins of my initial rankings might have been QB fifteen or something around there. And I have just slowly kind of as I've dug into it, as I've looked at their defense, become more comfortable with it. And again, the vaccination status that he is so public about, given what the protocols are, and there's going to be people probably after this. We've already seen Adam Shaheen who has tested positive and he is out for the first game. This is going to be a thing this year, and he's going to be something where if you're telling me that somebody is going to probably more than likely miss at least a game that is going to knock you down for me and my protections, and you ain't wrong about that. And it's it's never defending, it's always justifying the take. Too often people have takes about certain things that they don't justify in any way. If you can find the stats to back up this justification, well that's what it's about, and then you can actually have a reason for that. Let's talk about a couple of the tight ends to here. Zach Ertz, who we kind of mentioned earlier in the show. I want to come back around to zach Ertz because all of a sudden, zach Ertz kind of feels like he could be useful again. And Dallas, poor Dallas Godders, Oh my goodness, late July,

Dallas Goddard looked like a really good tight end. And then everybody just kind of woke up, you know, hit this snooze alarm and then looked over and went, hey, zach Ertz is healthy and still on this roster and playing football, And all of the Dallas Goddard chairs just went up in smoke. So, Dan Harris, is zach ert somebody worth stashing in a deeper league? Yeah? I drafted him in our you know, we haven't fans, Bros Insiders League one, very very deep benches for us to navigate, and again with tons of sharp people, because everybody just spends all their time on football. I drafted Earth's as actually a second tight end, and I stash him with one of my last picks because I do think there's upside. Joe, Like a year ago, we're drafting the guy's a top five tight end right and now he's just a complete afterthought. So him being there and again, he's more of the guy who between him and Goddard generally historically speaking with both of them, he's the guy who runs more routes than Goddard. Goddard stays in the block a little more. So I do think it hurts Goddard, not to a crazy extent. Goddard I still have got it ranked as a startable tight end in twelve team leagues. But I do think that Earth's is the type of kind of random tight end. There's gonna be some tight end Rumber Lash or Robert Tonyan, There's gonna be a tight end that kind of explodes that we're going to be really excited about. Arts definitely could be that guy, given what he's done historically. So yeah, especially in the deeper league, I don't mind, Especially if you wait on tight end and you're uncomfortable with it, getting Earth's is kind of a backup. He could explode Week one again against the Falcons, and then we'll all be drafting him. I did kind of a jerk thing this weekend, Dan. I think I should share it now because we're talking about deep league tight end. So I mean that sixteen team guillotine salary cap league, you know, with the some of the former Major League Baseball players I was talking about, right, So I'm in this league with these guys, and I drafted and acquired George Gittle and Kyle Pitts in this sixteen team. Whoa, because that's where the value was. So I just did both, and I realized that was, like, that's kind of a jerk move in a sixteen team league at tight end. It didn't. It was not pretty as the draft move. Man's totally fine. I kind of feel like it was kind of a jerk move, but get fine. We'll see. Then the joke is on me because they both have the same buy so we'll see how that works. But it's guillotine. So I figured somebody out there, we all right, it'll be fine, Everything's fine, Just like Dan Harris. One more tight end to get to and then we'll get to a couple of questions and close things out here. Adam Troutman. Everybody was buzzing about Adam Troutman coming into the year. Right, another another tight end. Now, yeah, we've come full circle, dealing with a bit of an injury now, So is Adam Troutman more appealing now in a lot of ways to stash especially you know, because the bloom is off the rose a little bit and you get the better quarterback now with Winston. Yeah, he was. He was somebody who was like everybody's favorite tight end sleeper early on, and then you had the well tastom hill may start, and then you had the injury scare, and then he was completely forgotten about. He's not ranked highly for where I and I prefer earths, but certainly, like we talk about Joe, especially at tight end because basically, once you're beyond the top twelve or whatever, you're just you know, throwing darts. But he is a guy who I'd like to see what we see like right out of the gate. And so it's not a bad idea, especially with like again in a deeper league at this point of very deeply putting him on your bench. Maybe he explodes week one, then you're like, oh, look what I've got here. But there is sleeper potential. But I think at one point i'd probably moved him up to like, I don't know, fifteenth in my tight end rankings. He's still way below that at this point, but I think he might be worth kind of a look in a deeper league just to see what happens. Let's dig into the listener mail bag. All right, let's get to some of your questions. Those are the stashes, And of course, if you've got your favorite stashes or guys that you're thinking of, make sure you hit us up a fancy pros on social media and let us know who yours are. Let's get to the listener mail bag and let's start on the Twitter machine with el Peyo. El Peo wants to know today is my draft? Congratulations, he'll pay in the sixth round. I love this projecting in the sixth round, should I pick Antonio Brown or Jalen Waddle? So hopefully they'll both be around there. But it's a good discussion to have. These guys are very close in terms of ranking for most people. What about you, Dan, who would you rather Antonio Brown or Jalen Waddle? And let's just call out half PPR because we don't have a format here. Yeah, that's good. I mean I think that it's a pretty simple if it's for like your wide receiver three for me, which probably right around that range. I do prefer Brown. I have him projected higher. He's pretty safe. Wattle is still a lot of projecting upside, which again, as I've talked about with rookies, I get a little uncomfortable doing, just because I think there are way more variables. But if you are going for like your wide receiver for something, and you want upside, you might as well go with the upside of Wattle. So I do have Brown ranked higher. I'd probably take him first. But if you're set a wide receiver, you want wide receiver Heaver, you're going for another one. I would then pivot and go with a Waddle. All right, let's go to joe Trivetti at Joey trev My people. So Joey Trivetti wants to know Jonathan Taylor. Why are so many split on what type of season he will have? The man is a machine, he says, yeah, he's a great talent. I think people are concerned because of the Nelson injury, the Wentz injury, the Wentz covid. I think

they're just and rightfully so. I think there's concern creeping in of it's just questions, and I think whenever you have a player in the first round or that kind of a grade, and the more questions you start to have, the more it affects their value. Now it could be positive, you could take advantage of that value. And it's knocked him from a place where I think preseason rankings it was way like he was like six overall, and it's the way down since that. Right, So this is where he should have been in the whole time. Anyway, I think I'm fine with taking Jonathan Taylor. How about you, I mean, do you have questions about him? First of all, I think there's a whole swath of people that even before I always try to I joke with our people. I always trying to say a word that I don't really understand but sounds like it might be correct, and I throw it in to make myself sounds now for it really works, really works better than my spaceballs the toilet paper. Okay. So I think that where we where we have the Taylor is that there were a lot of people. Our our wonderful colleague Mike Taglier is one of these people who were fading Jonathan Taylor even before any of the injuries. Because again what he was saying is tags also like we watched Taylor closely because we both were invested in him and he did not look good for a lot of the season, Like not just he wasn't he didn't have the production. He just kind of looked like he wasn't seeing the holes he was running into the backs of his offensive linean it looked weird. He exploded down the stretch with the soft matchups. Of course, Tags was kind of like, well, it was a bunch of soft matchups. Marlon Mack is now going to be healthy. Why are we just assuming that Taylor is going to be this dominant force? And there is that point to it, for sure. I think that that is something that fantasy managers can keep in mind when they're drafting him. But I do think, Joe, you're right that people use the excuse of the Wentz injury and the Nelson injury and everything like that to kind of push him back. For me, he's might RB ten, So I also have moved him down a little bit just because I don't know. We have seen what Frankreich likes to do. He does not like to go to a bell cow back. Even if THEO whispers are that he's gonna you've still got Marlon Mack. Obviously you've still got ninety of minds. I remember, Joe, there were a bunch of times last year where Jordan Wilkins was the number one waiver wire pickups right like everyone's like, oh God, here he comes, because all of a sudden, it was like Taylor wasn't getting the work that's within the range of possibilities enough to drop him out of that top tier for me, right behind for me, Saquon Barkley, all right, let's get two in here real quick. Yep, this first one. This is right in your alley here, this is right your wheelhouse. J durenn no j R. Duran wants to know, as the semantics, why do we call it positive touchdown regression instead of touchdown progression? Because regression, thank you, Joe. Regression is something where it goes to the average like that. That's what regression means. So there is positive regression and negative regression. Progression is a lovely term that has a lot of good uses in regular but it's progression doesn't mean going, you know, regressing upwards. Regression is always to the mean either way. I've got positive aggression, which is a totally different thing towards me no, not not towards you, just just generally speaking. And last one here from Santiago on Twitter, wants to know who's going to be the number one waiver wire claim after week one, and clearly I think it's Immanuel Sanders. Right, No, it's not going to be Emmanuel Sanders. Oh this is good a waiver wire claim. So it has to be somebody then who wasn't drafted. I'll go old school and I'll go with Rondel Moore. I'll go with a giant. That would be yeah, I could see that. Yeah. Well, look, the bottom line is he's still not being drafted in a lot of places and everything like that. So again against the Titans, they're probably gonna need to score if more suddenly a oh my god, look how they manufactured touches for more. Look how he ran out of the slot. This is a guy who can make a huge difference. He's going to be highly sought after, and he still is on the you know, on the waiver wire in a lot of leagues. All he went a little long today, but that's because when Dan and I get together, that's what we do. It's just this is what we do. Dan and I and it's it's a joy. It's so fun to actually just sit down you and me like old times leading off and just do an hour of football. But this is kind of our relationship anyway, so we're just recording it for all of you to listen to in the meantime. Head over to Fantasy Pros dot com slash contest. Don't forget about that Kyler Murray football. 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