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Welcome to the Energetic Radio podcast. This episode is brought to you by the
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SchoolOfPlay, co hosted by Dale Sybottom and Paul
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Campbell. Each week we'll bring to you tips, strategies and ideas on
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how you can bring more joy and happiness into your life and those you share
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it with. G', day, everyone. Welcome back to energetic radio,
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episode 376. I hope you're well. Christmas is in
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the air. It is December, and I'm joined by the one and only Dale Sybottom.
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G', day, mate. How are you, Pistol? Good to see you, mate. Pistol,
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you're funny. Bastard. I love it. How's things? Very good, mate. Very good, very
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good. Now the sunny's out. Very excited. The cricket
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starts today, mate. I love the Ashes like no tomorrow. The golf started
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in Melbourne as well. This drone Open, amazing. It's cool to have
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things look forward to, isn't it? I think that's one thing. I'll be honest, I
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love, like, winter in a way, because I know Friday and Saturday night I can
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have a couple of beers, put the fire on and watch the footy. Yes. Whereas
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without that. And I'll be honest, the big bash just doesn't do it
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for me. Like, I just find it boring. Whereas test cricket,
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even though I'm only going two days now, I just love it. I love everything
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about it. And I'll sit there and if I can and watch every ball and
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how. Good are day night tests? Perfect, because it gives us something to watch. And
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once the kids are down for a couple of days. Yeah, I might go for
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three. You reckon this one? Yeah, they'll go for three. Look, pretty green. The deck
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didn't. Anyway, sure, they'll get three out. They would have worked in their batting technique.
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I can't get tests. Don't normally go for two. It might go for three, but
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I'm with you. It's funny how. How simple the mail is. I was the same.
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I woke up this morning and jumped out of bed. One of the first things
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in my mind was, oh, yes, the cricket starts tonight. Yeah. I wrote in our
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first email, bang. Ash's day, baby. I know. How exciting is it?
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Males are so such simple creatures to please. It's
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Something about test career, though. There is, isn't it? Especially against the problems with the
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Ashes. It's obviously I'm torn, because I'm not torn. I go for Australia, but I've
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still got to hold an English passport, so it's me too. Nearly didn't get back
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in the country. I know I've really got. I've been saying,
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but geez, I've been saying I'm going to become an Aussie for a very long
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time and haven't done it yet. So, yeah, we'll see how it goes.
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Alrighty, on. On Christmas, I want to throw in a quick little thing here and
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get on this next year. If you didn't get on this year, I said to
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you about a week ago, Advent calendars. So obviously Advent calendars are
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massive. My kids have got a Truckee one and whatnot. But this year for
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the first time, Alf gave it to them. But really obviously we got it.
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But there's a kindness advent calendar
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that's that just a mum. An Australian mum made up. She sold over a
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million copies worldwide. And it is elite like it is. It's
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now become like this morning it was the first thing my kids opened as
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opposed to the chocolate. They couldn't wait to see the kindness challenge. They couldn't wait
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to see. It's multifaceted. There's kindness challenge they're gonna do, but there's also a little
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scratch and reveal like a little positive affirmation they read to themselves
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and there's little kindness stickers they collect in a little envelope they get. So it's
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like a three pronged attack. And it is incredible
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for setting your kids up that mindset of do something
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kind today. Here's your kindness challenge for the day. Yeah. And they can't wait. And
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then at dinner table we have a chat about how'd you go with your kindness
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challenge? And they reflect on it. And any parents out there that missed the boat
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on this year, we might release one. We might
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release one if we get time next year and do a school play. A play
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slash kindness/gratitude 1. But that'll be a heap of work.
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I know, Dale. So don't freak out. I'm just looking going, I know, Dale. Look
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at our
two list. Go mate. When do we fit that in? But it is,
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it is unreal. And if you did miss the boat this year and apparent put
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in the memory bank for next year. Australian company. And it's
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literally a game changer for advent calendars. And just setting your kids with
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that mindset of let's do something good today for somebody else. Yeah.
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Epic. I think though, like, it's all great for an advent calendar, but these are
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things we need to be doing all year round. Yeah. And I think that's where
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like this isn't a plug for our products, but our daily mission cards are essentially
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that that as a family Reveal one, you do it for the week or you
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do it for the day and you reflect on it, you know, and that's the
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whole point behind it. Obviously that's a very smart model that they've
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created because they've not only got the kindness challenge, they've got that scarcity or
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the, the mystery behind the scratch and reveal. And then they've got the
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gamification element in getting the sticker as well. So
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she's really gamified it like a game. And that's why
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it's so exciting for them because they've got so many different layers going on.
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Yeah. Our kids have already written notes for the neighbors and left them on the
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front doorstep. Little kind notes. We got some beautiful ones back. They had
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to make phone calls to someone that makes their heart sing. You know what I
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mean? They just picked up a random phone call and gave a phone call to
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someone who made their heart sing. And. Yeah, I don't know, I just think it's.
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It's a really cool little add on for the Christmas Advent calendar. If you're
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thinking about something else next year, get on it and I'll try and talk side
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into. Find the time to creating our own one.
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I'm just looking at that. It's a great idea and I'm thinking, how much work
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am I going to have to do on that? You have these ideas. Oh, now
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I can just figure it out. Stop being so creative. Just stop being such a.
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I'm more than happy to create one. If you want to go and do it.
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You're just planting seeds all over. I'll work on it.
I'll work on it. I'll
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find my. I'll get better with it. How's that sound? That's your problem.
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You're too good. You're too good at it, mate. That's not a compliment. Good luck
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with your Advent calendar. I love it. I'm going to tune in first with something
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that came upon us yesterday. So yesterday we did a workshop with 60
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wellbeing leaders and they wanted us to steer it in
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the direction of working with neurodiverse students.
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We've. I'm sure there's a lot of parents out there now that the. There's a
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lot more young people coming through who are neurodivergent and
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their brain works in slightly different ways. Think adhd, autism,
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you know, those sorts of things. Well, you sit across. You're sitting across from one,
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I'm sitting. Across from them, right? Yep. And so we did a whole workshop
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around that and linked how play is incredible and it was awesome for me to
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go out and learn that stuff. But the story I want to tell. You and
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I was for listeners out there, I was very impressed because there's something. We
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haven't really done anything and we're waiting to go to talk and
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Campbell's over there with this like cheat sheet note. I'm like, what do you got
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there, mate? It's like if you cop like you're going to check to do a
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test or something. Yeah, these are my notes. I was like, for what we already
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know you're gonna talk. Oh, and you had all these notes and you went up
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and it was amazing. Thank you. I learned a lot from just, you know, being
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there. I did surprise myself how much memory, how much information I retained in
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my cramming of of neuro diverse and how plane packs on it. But
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the main thing that I want to get out of it. And so I did
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an experiment with my 5 year old son Parker last night. So long story
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short, he's been a bit moody lately, a bit emotional, a bit grumpy. And
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the missus did something yesterday that really upset him. Not her fault, we're all humans.
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And he couldn't regulate himself. Like he was just really shitty,
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like really grumpy. Didn't want to come to the dinner table, refused to talk to
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us. And I didn't, I just let it go. And I just thought,
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hang on a minute. I just taught this today about how play is
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incredible at activating the parasympathetic nervous system, which calms
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people and regulates them and makes them feel safe and focused and relaxed.
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And so the three was at the table. Parker's cracking the shits over in the
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corner. And I was like, I'm going to try it. So I didn't
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label anything. Just got up, got four pieces of paper, four pens, sat down
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and I just said, right, we're going to play a game. And Hunter was like,
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yeah, Morris, like awesome, let's do it. I said, well, let's play a game. I
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said, we're going to do a drawing game. So I didn't label it Gratitude Pictionary.
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So we're going to do a drawing game. And his ears pricked up. He was
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like, oh. And I said, do you want to join in, mate? Yeah, okay. And
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he quickly got out of his slumber and he came and sat the table. Still
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a little bit of a huff and a puff. And I was like, right, what's
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something that's, you know, what's something that's really challenged you lately, or what's something. I
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said, no, I said, your funniest moment. I said, think about your funniest moment that
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you've seen lately. Don't share it. Just think about your funniest moment.
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Right, We've got to draw it. And he just started drawing, little smile on his
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face. And I turned to my wife and gave her a little wink and he
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joined in and started playing. And it was amazing how through that play, it
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snapped him out. Yeah, it reset and it snapped him out of that little grumpiness.
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We then shared our drawings that. To guess each other's drawings. We call it Gratitude
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Pictionary. And we had to guess everyone's funniest moments through our drawings, which was
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hilarious. And it bloody reset him. And I was like, how's that little social
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experiment with my own kids and what I just taught. But, yeah, well, it does
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work. And I. You've introduced me to the game Spot it. And we use it
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a lot now. That's exactly what I use with my
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boys when they're so
dysregulated. I just go and go, Spot
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it and don't even give them a chance to think. And before. I know, we've
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played two games. Oh, what do you want to do now? And it's just completely.
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Yeah. They forget about this. Forget about it. Instead of. What I've been doing for
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so long is, oh, you got to stop. No, that's not right. It's all negative.
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Just completely change narrative. Yeah. You know, and Spot it is
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brilliant for that. Yeah. And so is gratitude. It's any form of playwright. Any form.
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Because I was going down, like, I'm knackered, I'm tired. I was going down the
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pathway of, you know, I didn't. I was like, parker, get to the dinner table.
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Yeah. You know what I mean? Like, come on, mates, family dinner, you know, move
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on those. So I would have said normally, but, no, I didn't. I didn't label
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anything. And I just spoke to the other people in the room and said, hey,
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let's all play a game. And very quickly went, oh, I want to be a
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part of this. And yeah, isn't that funny? For years, people would always
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say that one of the questions you get, what do you get when, like, what
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happens with the people that don't want to participate? And I would always say that's
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normally 1 or 2%. Don't give them any energy whatsoever. Let
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them focus on the 97, 98% that do want it.
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And what normally Happens is they gravitate back in because they see others having fun.
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Yeah, it's very. Just you saying that then reminded me that that's
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what we practice what we preach. But then you focus on the negatives instead. All
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right, what's the positive? You know, control what you control. People will often
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they just want attention. Normally they want to get angry. I like how we
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spot it. You don't say, hey, who wants to play? Or let's play. Don't. Don't
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label it. No, I just pull my spot it. I don't even give them a
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chance. And next thing you know, they're trying. To find the all right, next one.
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And they're into it, right? Yes, yes. So it's one of those things. Yeah.
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And we talk about these. Don't label. Never label anything. And we don't do that
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in our workshops. And I think that's a great thing, not only for parents, but
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also anyone out there. The moment you label something, we're going to
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start a meeting with this. Like, you'll just lose a room.
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Spot it. Or draw this bang straight away. And we call it
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microplay. So just make it a ritual. Make it a
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ritual in your repertoire of parenting or coaching or teaching, whatever it is of micro
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play. When you're losing someone, a class, your team, when they're waning
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with motivation, they're getting tired, or they're not switched on, or your
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kids are off the head, or they're not regulated, whatever it might be. Just think
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micro play and it's just gonna be 5 minutes, 5 minute micro play of
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something a little bit different. And don't label it. Don't give them a chance to
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think about it and see what it does to your team or the people you're
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working with. But yeah, put it in your little. In your back pocket. It does
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work. Yeah, it does. And John, What? Actually, it makes you feel so much
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better yourself because you're not just being negative or it's not all
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like. It's not all like a bad spiral
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of your energy putting down someone or just getting
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negative. You know, it's. You're flipping the situation. You're making it a positive.
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It's a good result for everyone. You laugh, you have fun, you move on. Well,
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you control your emotions. Right. And parenting is. And teaching everything. It's an
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emotional roller coaster because you've got to deal with different personalities
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and. And different attitudes, those sorts of things and frustrations and whatnot. And
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yeah, I think if you can think that way and control your emotions and Be
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a bit more assertive and smart about how you go, you are proud of yourself.
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And I was, I said in my life, I'm like, man, I'm proud of myself.
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I said to myself, I'm proud of myself for not losing it. Then she goes,
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you did really well, you know, good job. So, yeah, so I
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reckon it's not. I don't call it a regulation kit, but different
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activities, you know, I've just got a dice and I spotted cards and anytime I
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say who can roll a six first? Or something like that, they're very basic. But
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I think that's something that anybody. Because everyone
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gets dysregulated, some people just find it a lot harder to come back when
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they do. So if you can have things, you know, that work, that are fun
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and it is play based essentially 100%. And the little comment that
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I loved yesterday in a workshop is a regulated brain
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is a ready brain, you know what I mean? So a regulated brain is then
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ready to listen, it's ready to learn, it's ready to try new things, it's ready
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to communicate, it's ready to engage. But there's no point trying to do it when
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the brain's not working, no way. And I saw them Parker last night, he
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mum and nothing I could have said would have got
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him out of it, nothing, honestly. So I had to think of something else and
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play was the way that got his brain to regulate changing the narrative. And then
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he was ready to listen and learn and come back to the family. So, man,
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super simple. But I just wanted to share that because it actually worked in our
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family home last night. That's really good, man. It was awesome. It was cool to
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see the. Well, we, we see it all the time, what we do with our
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games. But then the way the language used was different than normal.
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well being or well being specialists or psychologists, you could see and go,
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ah, that's cool. That's one of the things I've always loved. And
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it was nice sitting back yesterday, seeing you doing it. Just people go,
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ah, they've felt it, but then it makes sense,
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it works. You know these light bulbs going off. Yeah, yeah. It's pretty cool
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when you give people an experience they didn't realize they needed and then teach them
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something that they really do need that they didn't know before they came in. Yeah.
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For anyone? Yeah, for anyone. It's awesome. Question that notice, mate.
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with someone. Question that notice. What's something you want to learn?
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neurodiversity and things like that. And obviously, yeah, I want to
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understand myself a little bit better. So, yeah, I want to learn how my
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brain operates. I got a fair idea, but probably also
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learn ways that I can regulate myself better and
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yeah, learn. Learn to be a better person in all aspects of my life. Okay.
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about working memory. I don't know why some popped up the other in my mind,
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I was like, I really want to try and understand. Memory
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better and how it actually works so I can. I don't know, so I can
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get better at it. Because I reckon my memory is not awesome compared to yours.
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You remember people's names go to my mind like, no tomorrow. And it frustrates in
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the line of work ring because we meet so many new people. I'm like, shit,
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I've forgotten his name already. And it's. And I want to be personable. Like, I
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more. Yeah, I don't know. So that's. That's a bit of a nerdy thing that
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I want to learn. I want to learn about working memory with that. It's something
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very easy you can do. So Tanzlaali had him on the podcast
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about five or six years ago, and he's done a couple of courses for us.
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taught himself just how to do it. He memorized the
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whole yellow pages in a month. And then he could
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someone said what page? He could recall the business name and the telephone number.
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just look at. Listen to podcasts, done did a little like, thing you could do
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on the podcast, a way to do it, a really simple starting one. And then,
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yeah, there's a course he did Tanzel Ali. Tanzel Ali.
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like remembering a speech or something. Like. So that's how I got my TED Talk.
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was the one that was running it. Interesting. So he would run it and then
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a lot of people would get him to coach them so they could,
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like, memorize their 15 minute TED talk. Yeah. Love it. It's going to become. I
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always create some goals at the start of the year. Not resolutions, but some goals.
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improve my memory. Well, there you go, my working memory. And, yeah, I'm looking forward
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to getting stuck in, just doing little daily activities, what I can do for it.
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we. Before I left home, and she sort of armed and added a little bit
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and struggled a little bit with it. Then she came up with something, you know,
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another language. She goes, I'd love to learn another language. Hasn't started doing, but
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hopefully it becomes one of her goals, but also about work. But she struggled a
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little bit to find something that she wants to learn about. And I was like,
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they want to learn almost all the time to keep that thing ticking over or
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keep growing. That purpose or, you know, a project.
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2025, legends out there, just plant a little seed.
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What. What are you gonna. What's something you want to learn in 2026 and add
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to your repertoire something you've been putting off for a long time. Write it down
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as a goal and do it with me and literally get stuck into that goal.
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I can't wait for you to roll into a workshop playing the guitar and
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remember people's names. That means.
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That means I might sing them.
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Hey, Lou, with that on my quiz time.
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Quiz time. I like it. Throw it in. So five questions. Fair. It's a quick
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bite quiz today. Okay? So you've got five
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seconds to answer. So give me five seconds so people can yell it out if
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they're listening and then you answer it. Okay? Question number one. How many
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teeth does an adult human have? 5,
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32. Well done. One from one. Jason Tri
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Told you a freaky nice. Question number
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Oh, Mercury. All right, so one, kill me for that. Pardon? Hunter will kill
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me. Forget. That's okay. Question number three. What is the logo of the American
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football team? The Dallas Cowboys. Five,
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four, three, two, one. It's a star. It
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is. What color? Blue. Well done. Blue and gray. Blue and white is
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always a blue and white. It just says a blue star, but it might be
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great. Two from three, you are. Yeah. Correct. I tried to go a bit easier
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on you. Thank you. I've been useless. That's why you said, where's the quiz been?
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I said, oh, I was a bit dismal. No, yeah, bring it back. I want
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to improve. All right. No. Question number four. What is a baby rabbit
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called? Five, four, three, two,
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one. A bunny? Oh, no. A kit or a kitten? Oh,
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I. I learned something. I did very good. All right, the last one. Which
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Cardinals? 5, 4, 3, 2,
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1. Arizona. No, I know. I wouldn't have got this either. St. Louis.
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Oh, so two from five. That's
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better off, so. Well, no, if I had 10, I might have got
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more than four. No. Anyway. Hence
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why I need to work in my working memory, young man. That's why. Maybe you
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need to go on a game show. Yeah, maybe just suck at it. That's awesome.
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I love it. Did a little. Little
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activity the other day called Life Zooming. All right. And
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a little activity called Live Stream, where you focus in, you go back.
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And it's for adults, like Ara. Like mid. You know, mid, middle age, 40s,
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50s, whatever it is. And I know some people get stuck in the rut of,
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oh, I'm 40, I'm 50, you know, I'm. I'm done. I'm not going to
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learn anything new. What am I going to do? I'm not going to start new
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businesses and those sorts of things. They're stuck in a rut, mate. Colonel Sanders
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started KFC at 65. That's crazy, isn't it? That's best. That is nuts drinking. It
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took him that long to get his 11 herbs and spices sorted. I think he
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might have been stuck on 10 for a few years. He was an elite backyard,
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backyard, cool things cooker. Backyard, backyard, fry
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house. Sorry, mate. That's right, mate. It's called Life Zooming.
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I was 18 to 21, what, what was my focus
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and what did I learn? All right, and then you go, so for me,
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for example, shitloads, like left home,
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place, learning about rent and bills and sharing food and cooking and,
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and then uni and navigating uni and it was incredible, right? And then
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you go again from like 22 to 25, you know, what did I learn then?
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Getting a job, career, professionalism, blah blah, blah, still having a good
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time. And you do that every three years and you go back and write it
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all out and it is actually insane in a three year period
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what you do, but what your focus
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if I go the last three years between 40 and 44, for example,
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it is insane what I've learned and you'd be the same. And then it
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just puts that little bit of a seed in your mind to go, man, I
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got so much ahead of me. What is 44 to 47 going to entail? You
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know what I mean? But I thought it was a really cool activity to do
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and a really cool activity to share, especially if you're middle aged.
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Yeah, it's awesome. But. So I'm going to encourage you to do it. Saudi, I'm
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going to encourage you to. I can't wait to hear your 44 to 47
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and hear how this advent calendar designs come along.
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Mate. It would be very similar to what you just mentioned there. But yeah,
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it's probably a nice way to reflect as well. Yeah, I mean, like as we
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or like Instagram or so forth, because it's sort of like a highlight
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reel of the things you've done. Yeah, that's. That's probably the main thing I like
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about. You can go back and it reminds you of things. I've been sitting on
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that topic for a while. I'll be honest, it's been in my podcast book for
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a while. I haven't brought it up. And the reason why I brought it up
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is because yesterday I had another. After the workshop, another lady
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approached me, she's a teacher and she said, listen, you know, really
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inspirational, you used to be a teacher and you've, you know, you've now run your
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own business. And she said, I'd love to do that. You know, for a long
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time I fought with the notion of what else could I do, but I've never
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left. And then a week ago we're at over at
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Hillcrest and David Levchenko grabbed me and also a teacher and he was like,
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I've just, I'm doing it, I'm retiring, I'm leaving teaching, I'm going to start
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my own business. I haven't got it going yet, but I'm going to do it.
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You know, bloke from Clyde Creek, all those. So there's been a lot this year
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that have told
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don't know what. And there'll be. And I've told you this, you get them all
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the time. People always want to do it, which is great. And there was that
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one yesterday, grabbed me and went, but the. She was about my age, but
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she was nervous and she was freaking out. At this age, can I do it
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at this age? I was like, dude, you've got, it's only going to take you
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a couple of years, three or four years of effort and you're going to look
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what you've learned in a three year period for your whole life, you very
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quickly see that I've got so much to go still and I've still got, you
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know, 20, 30 years of working and imagine what I can do in three year
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blocks. Yeah. And that then led me to another question. Right.
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you give us some time? Should I do it in your eyes because you've
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done it. Should. I don't know how to word this.
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Should everybody? Should people who want to
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leave their jobs and start a business. No. Okay, elaborate. Why? Why not? Who
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should? Who shouldn't? Never, never just leave. Right? You need to be working
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after hours for years to have it to a place where
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you know it's sustainable. Not don't just quit your job because then
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it's forces so much pressure. You're going to be like,
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you're going to get desperate. People can see desperation. If it's a passion
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project or something you want to do, then it should be something that you enjoy
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doing and it doesn't feel like work and it actually motivates you. So
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every night dedicate two hours to building it, to
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growing it, to reaching out, to creating things, test those products
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out. Don't just do something, don't just quit and then try that.
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anything. Because, like, a lot of things, and I remember when I was starting out,
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the things that I thought would be really good, no one wanted. The things I
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didn't think were that, well, people loved. But you only know that by doing it
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and testing it out, you can plan as much as you want or think about
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all these different things. Taking action is the only way you'll know what works or
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what doesn't. Yeah. But doing it in a way where it's a free swing, that
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it doesn't matter and you're not relying on that income or the pressure of bringing
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in work. Yeah. Yes. Like, yeah, there's
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time. Everyone's time poor. But that's on you. I bet if you looked at your
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screen time, you could take one hour of that back. I bet if you commute
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that business or start planning it out.
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to get it. Yeah, gotcha. And sometimes thinking that I'll just quit
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my job and they'll have all this time, that that's definitely not the way to
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go about it. You need to start a side hustle. And through your job you
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fund that and the project and the passion that you have
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will then come forward. And if it's any good and people want it,
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then you've got a viable business. Don't just quit, though. Yeah, definitely
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not. I love the part they said you said there about you can find an
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hour of your screen time to put towards something productive, you know, and that's. And
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that's 100. True. I watched. I'm
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gonna link that in with. And that's great advice, by the way, because so many
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people ask us, right? And they thought, oh, man, I've got to bring this up.
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And you've sat there and done it. On the.
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I've watched an awesome study about mindfulness in Australia with the
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Australian Melbourne unit and the Melbourne and Sydney universities and just
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30 normal Aussie people. So that's what caught my attention. Like, these are just normal
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Aussies that had very much.
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They had no mindfulness experience whatsoever. No meditation experience whatsoever.
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Skeptics,
some of them are actually quite skeptical. This is not going to do anything
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for me. But they did eight weeks of intensive meditation. Mindfulness, same
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thing where they had to be mindfulness or practice mindfulness or meditate
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one once a day, just for literally once a day. And then they
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did one class a Week together as a group of 30, they did all pre
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and post testing with everything strapped to their brains and their hearts. And
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the results blew me away. Yeah, I remember I told you about it. I was
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like, man, how's this study they've done? And the results of it, you know, working
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memory, improved cognitive development, cognitive functioning, better
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sleep, better control of your emotions, better ability to express your emotions
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to others. You know, more energy, more clarity.
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All these. That. All these normal Aussies that were skeptical and just
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found the benefits of it. And it wasn't just them feeling it, it was
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the. Backed by science. Backed by science. And the data there and all the graphs
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and. And it just. And I've tried to start doing.
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Not daily, I'm trying to do a little bit in bed and get back to
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a little bit of meditation. But do you know how you said before you've got
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to find an hour of your time to be productive?
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The way that phones are, we've lost the ability to just let our mind wander?
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Well, we never get creative. We never get creative. We never get bored. We talk
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about this all the time. You sit at a bus stop, right. You watch people
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sit in a bus stop or on a train and they're through their phones. You're
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on a toilet having a crap. You take your phone and you scroll through. It's
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probably a guy thing, I guess, but. Yeah. Whereas back in the
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day, we were kind of forced to have a lot more time. Yeah.
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Just with our thoughts, which is a form of mindfulness. I don't know. You know,
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that's. Man, I'll be honest, that's why I love where we work here. Because each
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night now we've got a lot to do. It's why when you bring up an
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advent calendar, I get a bit nervous. But there's no phone
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reception in here. Yeah. So I shut the door. I don't want to go and
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watch two hours of a TV show. I'd rather come in and work. Yeah. Because
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I feel proud of that and I know that it's all going to pay off
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in the long run. And at the end of the day, if anyone's out there
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and you want something bad enough. I'm sorry to say this, but working
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nine to five, you're not going to get it. You need to push harder.
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There'll be things you need to do because by the time you get that done,
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something else has already changed and you need to be progressive onto the next thing.
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And not saying you have to do that all the time, but you just need
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to be intentional with it. And I know that I can scroll my phone, but
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I don't feel good after doing it and I don't get anything out of it.
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So I just eliminate that now. I don't want to sit there on it. And
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I was the same, you know, with your, you know, bringing that to mindfulness. Instead
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of, you know, grabbing your phone or scrolling for 20 minutes,
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just go and lie down quietly or sit up against a wall or sit somewhere
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quietly and just focus on yourself, focus on your thoughts, focus
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on your breathing, focus on your body and just see how it goes
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after a few weeks. And obviously the benefits are there.
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It's clear. The science has proven it all. But, yeah, I just want to link
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that in with when you said, find an hour of your screen time to do
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something different. And it might be a side hustle, it might be a bit of
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meditation, it might be a quick little circuit, it might be reading a book, it
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might be a micro play, whatever it is. But I guess the challenge we're now
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setting you, especially for the Christmas holiday period and those sorts of things,
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try to knock off half an hour of your average screen time
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a day and channel it somewhere really productive and see what
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happens. I would say channel that
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into something that makes you feel good. And I think that's essentially what you're saying.
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Yeah, I feel bloody good when I'm creating
and I'm working
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and building these things because I love it. So for me, that's. That's my mindfulness.
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Yes. My mind's still going, but I'm so present. I'm not thinking about
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anything else and really proud. So I actually finish up late at night, go to
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bed, and I'm like, how good was that? Yeah. And I start again. Whereas if
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I just been on my phone and it's like, you know, in the morning, going
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to the gym or for a walk, I feel so good about it. I've
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realized that being on my phone, like, it's great to be able to communicate with
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people and need it for a business, but that actually doesn't make me feel near
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as good as what I should as a human. Yeah. And unfortunately, I think that
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is across the board with everyone. So you've just got to stop doing it. Yeah.
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And no one's gonna make you and start. And this is a simple way, right?
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This is a simple increment. Half an hour. Yeah. Don't knock it out your life
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completely, but knock half an hour off. And maybe that's a challenge over your holiday
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period. Coming up. Look at your average screen time now and then go, right,
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can I make that average half an hour lower in, in three weeks or four
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weeks, whatever it might be of that over that Christmas period. But yeah, I don't
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know, I thought LinkedIn pretty well. No, I like that. And mate, since obviously
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working with you, you read every night and I wasn't doing that. I now
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do that. So half an hour before I go to bed, I'm not on my
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screen working, I go and have a shower and I read my book. And
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that's made a huge difference as well. Yeah, Sleep quality, for example. Sleep quality.
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Yeah. There's not always on me. You didn't have someone coming in every
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night. That's all right now, I love you, mate, but yeah, you've got to bring
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in good routines. And I actually really enjoy reading again. I always did,
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but it's. I just forgot it because. So much easier you get in a bad
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habit. Yeah. How good's that? Yeah, so, no, I do. And yeah, I'm reading a
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really good book now. The Phil Jackson
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I spoke about. This is a very big book. Coach of Chicago Bulls
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and Lakers. Just talking about. Yeah. His leadership style
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and so it's really good. Obviously we're writing our book at the moment and yeah,
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I'm really enjoying it. Just working with someone like Michael Jordan and
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just because he was so much better than everyone else but how he got the
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best out of his team. So anyway, I wouldn't be doing that if I was
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just scrolling on my phone. Yeah. So be intentional with and do something that you're
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learning, you're feeling good and it's actually helping my sleep. Bang. Love it. There we
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go. Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for tuning in. Enjoy the lead
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up to Christmas. Crazy times. Come on, the Aussies
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and the cricket. Adios, amigos. We'll see you next week.