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remember. I thought the effects 00:04:01.379 --> 00:04:03.780 were good and I quite enjoyed it. I still think 00:04:03.780 --> 00:04:05.719 it's quite creepy. Mr. Man with his little robot 00:04:05.719 --> 00:04:08.960 eyes. Yeah. Something about it just really is 00:04:08.960 --> 00:04:11.500 quite disconcerting. Cyberpunk's a cool aesthetic 00:04:11.500 --> 00:04:15.379 anyway. Yeah, very true. Next. Your body may 00:04:15.379 --> 00:04:20.259 have gone. But you're still here. Gross slushing 00:04:20.259 --> 00:04:22.779 noises. Really great scene. It is a good scene. 00:04:22.879 --> 00:04:26.600 It's the remake of Robocop. It is, 2014. Gary 00:04:26.600 --> 00:04:29.980 Oldman in that scene, chatting away to him. And 00:04:29.980 --> 00:04:33.139 it doesn't deserve the hate that gets that film. 00:04:33.279 --> 00:04:36.720 I get it. The original Robocop is iconic. I love 00:04:36.720 --> 00:04:40.639 the original Robocop. This did a great job at 00:04:40.639 --> 00:04:45.170 making a 15 -raised... was it 15 i don't think 00:04:45.170 --> 00:04:47.029 it was a 12 i'm pretty sure it was a 15 not an 00:04:47.029 --> 00:04:51.649 18 it did a good job at modernizing it yeah yeah 00:04:51.649 --> 00:04:55.480 a little bit too shiny in places but it looked 00:04:55.480 --> 00:04:58.839 good in a lot of places and i genuinely love 00:04:59.500 --> 00:05:02.399 That reveal part of what's left of him. Yeah, 00:05:02.439 --> 00:05:04.199 barely anything. And it's literally just him 00:05:04.199 --> 00:05:06.720 on a stand, a heart, his right arm or whatever 00:05:06.720 --> 00:05:09.220 it is, and his head. I think that's genuinely... 00:05:09.220 --> 00:05:12.540 Oh, and his lungs as well. Yeah. Wonderful, wonderful 00:05:12.540 --> 00:05:17.139 idea. I think that it's at a time where they 00:05:17.139 --> 00:05:20.060 were doing remakes and the remakes just had to 00:05:20.060 --> 00:05:23.439 have lots of CGI. They couldn't just lean into 00:05:23.439 --> 00:05:25.180 the practical like the original Robocop would 00:05:25.180 --> 00:05:26.879 have been doing, other than the big walking machine, 00:05:26.980 --> 00:05:29.259 obviously. But, you know, I think if they did 00:05:29.259 --> 00:05:31.779 it again now, it would be a bit more, not to 00:05:31.779 --> 00:05:34.290 say too much about what we're going to talk about 00:05:34.290 --> 00:05:36.649 later, but a bit more like Dread in that more 00:05:36.649 --> 00:05:39.689 practical stuff. Yeah, and I mean, we've chatted 00:05:39.689 --> 00:05:42.029 about this with gaming before, haven't we? What 00:05:42.029 --> 00:05:45.829 would you prefer? And actually, I think this 00:05:45.829 --> 00:05:48.550 would be an interesting subject. If Hollywood 00:05:48.550 --> 00:05:53.209 treated... remakes of films like we do games 00:05:53.209 --> 00:05:57.370 do we want a remake or do we want a remaster 00:05:57.370 --> 00:05:59.290 well they kind of did do remasters because they 00:05:59.290 --> 00:06:02.170 put them more than blu -rays and used ai to upscale 00:06:02.170 --> 00:06:05.389 well upscaling is fine don't get me wrong but 00:06:05.389 --> 00:06:10.810 fully replacing anything in it or literally read 00:06:10.810 --> 00:06:15.500 just remastering the film and redoing all the 00:06:15.500 --> 00:06:17.850 effect Sometimes they do it, yeah. I get what 00:06:17.850 --> 00:06:20.949 you're saying. Star Trek, the motion picture, 00:06:21.110 --> 00:06:24.509 they did that. They actually changed out some 00:06:24.509 --> 00:06:26.430 of the industrialised magic stuff that they'd 00:06:26.430 --> 00:06:31.089 done with CGI models of what they wanted originally, 00:06:31.410 --> 00:06:32.910 but didn't have the technology to do. But that 00:06:32.910 --> 00:06:34.269 was for the worse, though, wasn't it? Was that 00:06:34.269 --> 00:06:37.470 the one where we didn't like the ships? No, I 00:06:37.470 --> 00:06:39.790 didn't mind the motion picture, because it was 00:06:39.790 --> 00:06:42.230 V 'ger that they changed, and it changed from... 00:06:42.810 --> 00:06:45.250 bits that you'd never normally saw in the film 00:06:45.250 --> 00:06:46.910 but they did some external shots that you would 00:06:46.910 --> 00:06:50.470 never have seen because they could do um but 00:06:50.470 --> 00:06:53.949 no it was a wrath of khan that was the remaster 00:06:53.949 --> 00:06:56.089 and it was just badly done yeah i think that 00:06:56.089 --> 00:06:57.569 must have been because we spoke about it on here 00:06:57.569 --> 00:07:00.629 we were both like oh it's rough yeah it is and 00:07:00.629 --> 00:07:04.110 i mean the problem is is even with the skills 00:07:04.110 --> 00:07:08.509 of cgi artists and and the graphics works you 00:07:08.509 --> 00:07:10.009 wouldn't be able to replace let's say if you 00:07:10.009 --> 00:07:13.850 remastered robocop like they remastered the tomb 00:07:13.850 --> 00:07:17.110 raider trilogy whereas if you put on your remote 00:07:17.110 --> 00:07:19.670 go show me the original oh look there's the original 00:07:19.670 --> 00:07:21.269 and then press a button and then suddenly it's 00:07:21.269 --> 00:07:24.810 all robocop now looks like the robocop you're 00:07:24.810 --> 00:07:28.290 saying shot for shot shot for shot remastering 00:07:28.290 --> 00:07:32.779 right okay yeah like a game i mean yeah okay 00:07:32.779 --> 00:07:36.319 i played some games on the tom rom the studio 00:07:36.319 --> 00:07:37.899 recently where you could press a button and it 00:07:37.899 --> 00:07:40.939 swaps between retro style and modern style nice 00:07:40.939 --> 00:07:44.079 which has been quite fun yeah it yeah i wonder 00:07:44.079 --> 00:07:46.000 how that would work because you'd have to act 00:07:46.000 --> 00:07:49.279 it how the other actors did too well no you'd 00:07:49.279 --> 00:07:52.319 use the original film and then you'd use that 00:07:52.319 --> 00:07:55.100 and not necessarily rotoscope that's the wrong

00:07:55.100 --> 00:07:58.180 technology but that that sort of thing you just 00:07:58.180 --> 00:08:00.899 overlay it and build it around what you already 00:08:00.899 --> 00:08:02.860 have there you could certainly do that with all 00:08:02.860 --> 00:08:06.870 the cgi aspects redo them to a new level like 00:08:06.870 --> 00:08:10.029 a game would do it yeah I wouldn't want that. 00:08:10.050 --> 00:08:11.550 The models are there. You just remake the models. 00:08:11.550 --> 00:08:13.649 Don't get me that. I wouldn't want that. Yeah. 00:08:13.709 --> 00:08:16.089 I wouldn't want that, but... I mean, what film 00:08:16.089 --> 00:08:18.889 would you do it with? I don't know. You can pick 00:08:18.889 --> 00:08:21.089 a film. Maybe you could think about it, but... 00:08:21.089 --> 00:08:23.389 Well, what you'd need is a film that's enjoyable, 00:08:23.449 --> 00:08:26.670 but you accept that the effects were terrible. 00:08:27.009 --> 00:08:30.930 Toy Story. Original Toy Story. Run in the Toy 00:08:30.930 --> 00:08:34.990 Story 5 engine. Yes. Correct. That would work. 00:08:35.350 --> 00:08:39.179 Yeah. That works because it's all CGI. That was 00:08:39.179 --> 00:08:42.080 Robocop, that was number two. But it's only on 00:08:42.080 --> 00:08:45.600 the brink that people find the will to change. 00:08:47.059 --> 00:08:50.000 That's John Cleese, isn't it? Yes, it is. And 00:08:50.000 --> 00:08:53.240 it's the modern version, and you might hear what 00:08:53.240 --> 00:08:58.100 the link is there. Remakes. The Day the Earth 00:08:58.100 --> 00:09:01.320 Stood Still. 2008, yep. Oh my God, it's shit. 00:09:01.519 --> 00:09:03.419 Compared to the original. I haven't seen it. 00:09:03.600 --> 00:09:06.990 It's just... It's dreadful. The original absolutely 00:09:06.990 --> 00:09:12.230 urinates all over this. The next one is by far 00:09:12.230 --> 00:09:16.009 the most egregious of all of them. It can't imitate 00:09:16.009 --> 00:09:20.460 inorganic material. Yeah, The Thing. The Thing, 00:09:20.620 --> 00:09:25.700 2011. And bearing in mind The Thing that we love 00:09:25.700 --> 00:09:29.279 is also a remake. Yeah, but it's good. Because 00:09:29.279 --> 00:09:31.039 we watched the black and white version, didn't 00:09:31.039 --> 00:09:38.000 we? Okay. We see what you did. This film is fucking 00:09:38.000 --> 00:09:41.779 awful. I've never seen it. It's absolutely awful. 00:09:42.500 --> 00:09:46.759 Awful. Anything other than our original remake 00:09:46.759 --> 00:09:50.980 is terrible. They should have just left it. The 00:09:50.980 --> 00:09:53.919 game's brilliant, though, actually. And the remaster 00:09:53.919 --> 00:09:55.860 of the game. I remember you saying the game was 00:09:55.860 --> 00:09:58.610 good. The game is really, really good. You listen 00:09:58.610 --> 00:10:04.350 closely. Faith is losing blood. I purposely picked 00:10:04.350 --> 00:10:05.950 an obscure one because I knew you'd get this 00:10:05.950 --> 00:10:09.659 one.

Play it again, sorry. What? You listen closely. 00:10:10.120 --> 00:10:14.730 Faith is losing blood. Yeah, sorry. War of the 00:10:14.730 --> 00:10:16.850 Worlds. Yeah, 2005. I had got it on my notes 00:10:16.850 --> 00:10:18.549 and it's like, hang on, is that what I listened 00:10:18.549 --> 00:10:20.710 to earlier? Yeah, no, it's War of the Worlds. 00:10:20.809 --> 00:10:25.549 Oh, so many remakes. So many terrible remakes. 00:10:25.629 --> 00:10:27.710 One of the worst films we've seen on the show. 00:10:28.009 --> 00:10:31.480 Yeah, it's... It's certainly up there. It really 00:10:31.480 --> 00:10:35.480 is up there. I mean, there was nothing. We walked 00:10:35.480 --> 00:10:37.840 away on that, was there? I don't think we had 00:10:37.840 --> 00:10:41.639 a single thing. Well, the positive was it ended. 00:10:42.200 --> 00:10:44.700 Sorry, it was an animal. I've just left something 00:10:44.700 --> 00:10:48.399 really gross on the table there. Yeah, I'm trying 00:10:48.399 --> 00:10:50.940 to think back to it now. Other than it finishing, 00:10:51.120 --> 00:10:53.120 I don't remember us having anything to say. No, 00:10:53.220 --> 00:10:55.879 I don't think we did. Absolutely dreadful. I 00:10:55.879 --> 00:10:58.639 think it also struggled because it was done during 00:10:58.639 --> 00:11:01.429 COVID. which I think is what's led a lot of the 00:11:01.429 --> 00:11:04.450 design choices of it, filmed in isolation by 00:11:04.450 --> 00:11:05.649 the look of it. Yeah, but you could have done 00:11:05.649 --> 00:11:09.389 far, far fucking better than using real live 00:11:09.389 --> 00:11:12.830 war footage of people being blown up in real 00:11:12.830 --> 00:11:15.529 life in fucking war -torn areas. But is it filmed 00:11:15.529 --> 00:11:17.509 in isolation and should be watched in isolation? 00:11:17.570 --> 00:11:19.940 And by that... You just leave it playing in a 00:11:19.940 --> 00:11:22.940 room and you don't go in there. I think if I 00:11:22.940 --> 00:11:26.419 get elected to be Prime Minister of the UK, all 00:11:26.419 --> 00:11:31.100 prisons are forced to watch that 24 -7. That's 00:11:31.100 --> 00:11:34.200 the only thing on the TV channel. That and High 00:11:34.200 --> 00:11:39.700 Life. High Life? Yeah. That terrible film we 00:11:39.700 --> 00:11:42.519 watched with... Have I blanked it out of my memories? 00:11:42.919 --> 00:11:45.159 Yeah, you know, the one that based its main characters 00:11:45.159 --> 00:11:48.080 on the two murderers. We absolutely hated it. 00:11:50.990 --> 00:11:55.019 Batman's lead... Oh, yeah, no, fuck. It's this 00:11:55.019 --> 00:11:57.620 thing. It's trauma. This is trauma. I've got 00:11:57.620 --> 00:12:03.429 scars. Right, last one. I recognise you from 00:12:03.429 --> 00:12:06.440 a dream. It wasn't a dream. I don't remember 00:12:06.440 --> 00:12:08.279 you liking this film. No, it's shit. It's Total 00:12:08.279 --> 00:12:11.019 Regal. Yeah, Total Regal 2012, yeah. Bring back 00:12:11.019 --> 00:12:13.240 the Arnie one. The Arnie one's brilliant. The 00:12:13.240 --> 00:12:15.899 Arnie one is brilliant. I didn't hate this film. 00:12:16.279 --> 00:12:20.580 And I actually remember Miranda liking it. What 00:12:20.580 --> 00:12:23.779 do you think of that? Well, I think you're wrong. 00:12:25.320 --> 00:12:28.340 No, I've got a very fond spot for the soft spot 00:12:28.340 --> 00:12:32.559 for the original Arnie version. And this was 00:12:32.559 --> 00:12:37.840 so different that I really struggled. And I didn't 00:12:37.840 --> 00:12:40.220 like the actors in it. I didn't like how it was. 00:12:40.279 --> 00:12:42.240 I didn't like the fact the story was completely 00:12:42.240 --> 00:12:46.220 different. Whereas then you look at the Running 00:12:46.220 --> 00:12:48.600 Man remake, which I think you're still yet to 00:12:48.600 --> 00:12:51.259 watch and you need to watch. Yeah, still haven't 00:12:51.259 --> 00:12:54.340 seen it. As much as the story is very different 00:12:54.340 --> 00:12:58.480 and it plays out very differently, it's also 00:12:58.480 --> 00:13:03.460 very similar and it's still got that little bit 00:13:03.460 --> 00:13:07.279 of comedy hidden in there, but plays out as a 00:13:07.279 --> 00:13:10.379 decent action film, which is exactly what The 00:13:10.379 --> 00:13:13.539 Running Man does. Isn't it? No, it's not the 00:13:13.539 --> 00:13:18.639 same actor. That actor who is in Robocop, he's 00:13:18.639 --> 00:13:21.820 in quite a few things nowadays. He's in a series 00:13:21.820 --> 00:13:25.320 on Apple. Which actor? Sorry, the actor who plays 00:13:25.320 --> 00:13:28.259 the remake in Robocop. Oh, right. Is he one of 00:13:28.259 --> 00:13:30.559 the Skarsgårds? Is he one of the Skarsgårds? 00:13:30.620 --> 00:13:35.740 I don't know. I'm pretty sure he's a robot android. 00:13:36.679 --> 00:13:39.559 in an Apple TV. Joel Kinnaman. Yeah, is he on 00:13:39.559 --> 00:13:42.440 an Apple TV series? He's in The Killing, he's 00:13:42.440 --> 00:13:47.600 in For All Mankind, he's in The Beast, American 00:13:47.600 --> 00:13:51.820 Revolution, Peacemaker, Icefall. He's in quite 00:13:51.820 --> 00:13:54.960 a bit. Yeah, he's like the guy who's in Running 00:13:54.960 --> 00:13:56.919 Mate. It's like an actor who seems to be in a 00:13:56.919 --> 00:14:00.259 lot of stuff and I get confused with those other 00:14:00.259 --> 00:14:01.960 people. Oh, it was Colonel Rick Flagg in The 00:14:01.960 --> 00:14:03.620 Suicide Squad. Of course he was. That's what 00:14:03.620 --> 00:14:06.480 I'm thinking, probably. Altered carbon he was 00:14:06.480 --> 00:14:09.519 in. That's the robot thing, isn't it? That might 00:14:09.519 --> 00:14:13.279 be what I'm thinking of. Possibly. They're all 00:14:13.279 --> 00:14:15.679 remakes. They're all remakes. That's the link. 00:14:16.500 --> 00:14:19.580 That's the one. Well done. Nobody messaged. Hang 00:14:19.580 --> 00:14:23.830 on. They're all shit

remakes. Actually, no. Ghost 00:14:23.830 --> 00:14:25.110 in the Shell was. Ghost in the Shell. Hang on. 00:14:25.190 --> 00:14:26.830 Let me just go back to my list. No, Ghost in 00:14:26.830 --> 00:14:29.009 the Shell. That's being mean. No, Robot was. 00:14:29.190 --> 00:14:32.950 Robot was. Robot was. Robot was the movie. Ghost 00:14:32.950 --> 00:14:35.870 in the Shell was all right. Robocop. I remember 00:14:35.870 --> 00:14:38.230 quite enjoying it. Never seen Day of the Earth 00:14:38.230 --> 00:14:40.289 still. The thing, we just shouldn't talk about 00:14:40.289 --> 00:14:42.289 that. War of the Worlds, absolutely dreadful. 00:14:42.370 --> 00:14:44.330 And Total Recall, again, I didn't mind. Yeah, 00:14:44.350 --> 00:14:48.450 well, I will go with the top three are just about... 00:14:48.990 --> 00:14:53.070 No, sorry. The top two are fine. Enjoy them. 00:14:54.200 --> 00:14:59.330 The Day the Earth Stood is manageable. And then 00:14:59.330 --> 00:15:02.389 the last three, no go. I would say, critically, 00:15:02.629 --> 00:15:04.690 they probably all didn't do very well, I reckon. 00:15:05.279 --> 00:15:07.980 Which is very difficult when you're coming onto 00:15:07.980 --> 00:15:12.200 the grounds of very popular films being remade. 00:15:12.240 --> 00:15:14.860 Yeah. I mean, I'm quite forgiving with films. 00:15:15.139 --> 00:15:17.120 Every film I just saw is the best film of the 00:15:17.120 --> 00:15:19.960 year. You know that. So I'm quite forgiving. 00:15:20.000 --> 00:15:22.899 So I'm probably not the best judge. No, that's 00:15:22.899 --> 00:15:24.679 probably very true. When it comes to Snack Sack, 00:15:24.679 --> 00:15:31.100 though, I'm quite on the opposite. All right. 00:15:31.159 --> 00:15:32.919 What have you been up to, mate? What have I been 00:15:32.919 --> 00:15:36.879 up to? Well, I have seen Street Fighter at the 00:15:36.879 --> 00:15:39.789 cinema. You have? I'm not going to go into too 00:15:39.789 --> 00:15:42.070 much about that because I'm desperate to somehow 00:15:42.070 --> 00:15:44.250 get you out of the house on a day that we can 00:15:44.250 --> 00:15:46.710 both do so you can see it. I would like to see 00:15:46.710 --> 00:15:48.710 it, yeah. Because there's... Unless you've had 00:15:48.710 --> 00:15:52.220 it spoiled for you, which you've not said you 00:15:52.220 --> 00:15:54.899 have... I don't go on social media. There's going 00:15:54.899 --> 00:15:56.919 to be... Not going to happen, really. There's 00:15:56.919 --> 00:15:58.960 going to be some surprises in it for you, I think. 00:15:59.100 --> 00:16:01.340 So I really want to do... I do want to take you 00:16:01.340 --> 00:16:04.600 to that. I really enjoyed it. I re -watched the 00:16:04.600 --> 00:16:07.399 original Street Fighter film. Which I really 00:16:07.399 --> 00:16:11.370 like. And you know what? And people will kill 00:16:11.370 --> 00:16:14.730 me for this. I'm sure they will. I'm not sure 00:16:14.730 --> 00:16:17.929 which

one is better. I really like the original. 00:16:18.169 --> 00:16:21.710 I think the original is super cheesy, but super 00:16:21.710 --> 00:16:24.470 fun. Especially the final M. Bison fight where 00:16:24.470 --> 00:16:27.850 he has his suit does CPR on him. What a scene! 00:16:28.750 --> 00:16:31.049 And then the whole flying. It's just wonderful. 00:16:31.350 --> 00:16:33.809 It's just wonderful over -the -top cheesiness, 00:16:33.870 --> 00:16:36.309 which is what they carry on into the modern one. 00:16:36.610 --> 00:16:41.029 But we'll do our own review for that another 00:16:41.029 --> 00:16:44.679 day, I think. In fact, you know what? If it's 00:16:44.679 --> 00:16:47.779 still in the cinema next week... we'll do a snack 00:16:47.779 --> 00:16:49.779 sack in the car we'll do was it best left in 00:16:49.779 --> 00:16:51.940 the 90s in the car and we'll go and see street 00:16:51.940 --> 00:16:54.200 fighter 2 for the variety show okay and then 00:16:54.200 --> 00:16:58.559 we can discuss it possibly we'll see anyway uh 00:16:58.559 --> 00:17:02.120 right so i've been doing that um i've been watching 00:17:02.120 --> 00:17:06.019 every video under the sun by a new youtube team 00:17:06.019 --> 00:17:08.200 that aren't new they've been around for ages 00:17:08.200 --> 00:17:10.869 called all the gear which is two blokes called 00:17:10.869 --> 00:17:13.230 Ethan and Jack. And they're just unbelievably 00:17:13.230 --> 00:17:16.329 funny. They are two blokes very much like us. 00:17:16.849 --> 00:17:19.630 And they used to have a, were part of a team. 00:17:19.670 --> 00:17:22.609 Seemingly attractive, very intelligent. Oh, boom. 00:17:22.769 --> 00:17:25.690 Absolutely. Masterfully funny. Massive cocks, 00:17:25.690 --> 00:17:29.069 that sort of thing. They used to be on, I think 00:17:29.069 --> 00:17:30.769 the YouTube channel was called Car Throttle, 00:17:30.930 --> 00:17:34.650 was what they started on. Hang on, hang on, hang 00:17:34.650 --> 00:17:38.329 on. These are the two that Adam and Karen like, 00:17:38.470 --> 00:17:42.119 aren't they? oh very possibly and then basically 00:17:42.119 --> 00:17:45.160 they've come to do their own thing and they do 00:17:45.160 --> 00:17:47.380 all sorts of oh we bought this hundred pound 00:17:47.380 --> 00:17:50.279 car in the middle of germany will it get us home 00:17:50.279 --> 00:17:52.740 and literally just try and drive it home they're 00:17:52.740 --> 00:17:54.400 doing like their own little grand tours they 00:17:54.400 --> 00:17:57.509 do yeah custom like We went to the little middle 00:17:57.509 --> 00:17:59.769 aisle to see if we can camp overnight with what 00:17:59.769 --> 00:18:02.730 we bought in there. And they are just genuinely 00:18:02.730 --> 00:18:06.490 very funny, very straight to the point, very 00:18:06.490 --> 00:18:08.950 enjoyable. You will have a lot of fun. You'll 00:18:08.950 --> 00:18:12.410 start watching it, and like me, you will just 00:18:12.410 --> 00:18:14.430 binge watch them. And link me some, because then 00:18:14.430 --> 00:18:17.789 I'll... I mean, they build the smallest pub in 00:18:17.789 --> 00:18:21.109 one of those Suzuki mini -wagon vans. Oh, yeah, 00:18:21.190 --> 00:18:23.869 yeah, yeah. And they build a working pub in it 00:18:23.869 --> 00:18:26.430 that you've got to climb over the bar in the 00:18:26.430 --> 00:18:28.650 back just to get there. And then they drive it 00:18:28.650 --> 00:18:30.569 around to places to see, can we sell a beer? 00:18:31.049 --> 00:18:35.180 They go to see the two UK pubs that are fighting 00:18:35.180 --> 00:18:38.599 about who is the smallest pub. So they do lots 00:18:38.599 --> 00:18:39.700 of weird and wonderful. Anyway, so I've been 00:18:39.700 --> 00:18:43.700 watching that. And then a bit of the old Next 00:18:43.700 --> 00:18:46.440 Generation again, back to Star Trek. Nice. And 00:18:46.440 --> 00:18:50.650 I watched an episode today. which made me think 00:18:50.650 --> 00:18:53.109 very much about the Strange New Worlds episode 00:18:53.109 --> 00:18:55.529 that we still haven't talked about yet, which 00:18:55.529 --> 00:18:59.009 was the horror episode. And the episode of TNG 00:18:59.009 --> 00:19:00.650 that I think you should go and watch if you get 00:19:00.650 --> 00:19:05.009 a chance, Season 4, Episode 17, Night Terrors. 00:19:05.329 --> 00:19:07.650 Hang on, I'm going to write it down. Yeah, do, 00:19:07.829 --> 00:19:14.480 because there's one... 419? 417. 417. And basically, 00:19:14.500 --> 00:19:16.940 the Enterprise gets trapped in Tychon's Rift, 00:19:16.940 --> 00:19:19.299 an energy -absorbing rupture in space where all 00:19:19.299 --> 00:19:21.079 but Data, Troy, and Guy are going to experience 00:19:21.079 --> 00:19:24.119 rising hallucinations and paranoia. So they find 00:19:24.119 --> 00:19:28.220 an old ship. This is next -gen. Yep. So yeah, 00:19:28.279 --> 00:19:30.480 tell me if this sounds familiar. They find a 00:19:30.480 --> 00:19:34.660 ship that's been missing. They go on board, and 00:19:34.660 --> 00:19:37.440 all the crew is dead in various different ways. 00:19:39.099 --> 00:19:41.339 Slightly. And then they get back onto their ship. 00:19:41.660 --> 00:19:45.640 and then they realize that everyone's tired no 00:19:45.640 --> 00:19:48.299 one's able to do anything properly their brains 00:19:48.299 --> 00:19:49.799 aren't really working then they start getting 00:19:49.799 --> 00:19:53.119 paranoid then they start having nightmares and 00:19:53.119 --> 00:19:54.859 waking nightmares and there's this brilliant 00:19:54.859 --> 00:20:00.259 bit where beverly crusher is in one of the i'm 00:20:00.259 --> 00:20:02.119 guessing one of the cargo bays that they've turned 00:20:02.119 --> 00:20:05.259 into a mortuary and you've got all the bodies 00:20:05.259 --> 00:20:08.299 laying down with white sheets over them and she 00:20:08.299 --> 00:20:10.859 blinks her eye the next minute All the bodies

00:20:10.859 --> 00:20:14.099 are sat up. The room's dark. And she's like, 00:20:14.440 --> 00:20:17.920 this isn't real. This isn't real. So full on. 00:20:17.980 --> 00:20:20.140 I love that. And there's a bit where Picard's 00:20:20.140 --> 00:20:24.220 in a turbo lift on his own. And then suddenly 00:20:24.220 --> 00:20:26.259 the turbo lift starts shrinking and he starts 00:20:26.259 --> 00:20:28.970 like he's going to get crushed to death. There's 00:20:28.970 --> 00:20:32.990 something about horror in sci -fi can be very 00:20:32.990 --> 00:20:36.970 scary. It's really well done. You know they're 00:20:36.970 --> 00:20:39.930 making a horror Star Trek game. Yes. I'm really 00:20:39.930 --> 00:20:41.869 looking forward to seeing how that turns out. 00:20:41.930 --> 00:20:44.750 As am I. That's really cool. And again, this 00:20:44.750 --> 00:20:48.069 is why I find that Alien Isolation just so terrifying. 00:20:48.170 --> 00:20:51.569 I just find sci -fi horror scary. And the thing 00:20:51.569 --> 00:20:54.630 is, the sci -fi horror thing, I'm hoping they 00:20:54.630 --> 00:20:58.089 don't because it's probably overdone. But the 00:20:58.089 --> 00:21:02.750 Borg properly play into the horror thing. That 00:21:02.750 --> 00:21:06.329 is full on body horror everything. And that could... 00:21:06.640 --> 00:21:10.400 properly work i i fear i think borg are probably 00:21:10.400 --> 00:21:14.140 my favorite baddies yeah i think so too i think 00:21:14.140 --> 00:21:19.279 it's just they i do wonder how much the idea 00:21:19.279 --> 00:21:21.680 they took from things like the cybermen and the 00:21:21.680 --> 00:21:25.279 original doctor who and and bits and pieces from 00:21:25.279 --> 00:21:28.940 various sci -fi prior to it but it was just it 00:21:28.940 --> 00:21:32.059 was brilliant the the look the design the idea 00:21:32.059 --> 00:21:34.400 of assimilation that's the thing that gets because 00:21:34.400 --> 00:21:38.220 you get assimilated and you're not you In my 00:21:38.220 --> 00:21:42.519 brain, it's like you suddenly got locked in syndrome. 00:21:42.819 --> 00:21:46.680 And then everyone you know knows that you're 00:21:46.680 --> 00:21:49.910 there. And now you're trying to kill them. And 00:21:49.910 --> 00:21:52.190 even to the point that they've taken bits from, 00:21:52.309 --> 00:21:54.230 even you could say like the Terminator they've 00:21:54.230 --> 00:21:56.329 taken it from, where you've got this point of 00:21:56.329 --> 00:22:00.200 they don't run. They don't charge at you. They're 00:22:00.200 --> 00:22:03.519 just forever coming. And oh, you've shot them 00:22:03.519 --> 00:22:04.980 three times. Well, you're fucked now, aren't 00:22:04.980 --> 00:22:07.180 they? Because guess what? they now your your 00:22:07.180 --> 00:22:11.240 bullets or your your phase is useless yeah they've 00:22:11.240 --> 00:22:14.240 just it's the perfect everything about them just 00:22:14.240 --> 00:22:18.119 absolutely horrible brilliant brilliant bad guy 00:22:18.119 --> 00:22:20.180 but no you you really like this one i do think 00:22:20.180 --> 00:22:22.900 so the episode's called night terrors and i think 00:22:22.900 --> 00:22:24.960 you'll see there's a lot that obviously strange 00:22:24.960 --> 00:22:28.299 new worlds but i like that let's make it slightly 00:22:28.299 --> 00:22:33.259 worse yeah as in more horrific yeah um but otherwise 00:22:33.259 --> 00:22:38.480 that's going to be i mean We talk about AI periodically. 00:22:39.140 --> 00:22:42.079 I really love the original SimCity classic game. 00:22:42.140 --> 00:22:43.900 I haven't played any games really, except for 00:22:43.900 --> 00:22:46.079 the game I've been playing, Zelda Link's Awakening. 00:22:46.119 --> 00:22:47.519 I don't know if we've talked about that before 00:22:47.519 --> 00:22:49.960 or not. Brilliant game. I'm slowly making my 00:22:49.960 --> 00:22:52.259 way through it. Whenever I travel, I'm trying 00:22:52.259 --> 00:22:54.920 to not look at my phone with TikTok. I traveled 00:22:54.920 --> 00:22:57.319 to London today. I spent the time on the train, 00:22:57.500 --> 00:23:01.339 on the tube, playing Zelda. So I'm really enjoying 00:23:01.339 --> 00:23:03.579 that. Really nice. But one of my favorite all 00:23:03.579 --> 00:23:05.920 -time games is SimCity Classic. I love 2000. 00:23:06.039 --> 00:23:09.039 I love 3000. Nothing further than that. But the 00:23:09.039 --> 00:23:12.119 original SimCity Classic, the original MS -DOS, 00:23:12.119 --> 00:23:14.420 the first time I played it was the Atari ST. 00:23:14.880 --> 00:23:18.019 That version of the game, I loved. I would play 00:23:18.019 --> 00:23:20.359 that nonstop. And I thought, I wonder if I asked 00:23:20.359 --> 00:23:24.779 Claude, could I, if I gave it all the way I want 00:23:24.779 --> 00:23:28.509 the game to play, how it should look. could it 00:23:28.509 --> 00:23:31.089 create me a management sim and i thought well 00:23:31.089 --> 00:23:34.329 if i do a little bit of during my off time but 00:23:34.329 --> 00:23:37.130 i use some of my work credits as well maybe i 00:23:37.130 --> 00:23:40.150 could do something that puts it in a an interesting 00:23:40.150 --> 00:23:42.150 light rather than us always saying no you can't 00:23:42.150 --> 00:23:45.269 do this saying oh here's a game we've produced 00:23:45.269 --> 00:23:48.349 for you to see how you are growing your own berry 00:23:48.349 --> 00:23:50.450 empire and that's what we came up we came up 00:23:50.450 --> 00:23:52.730 with sim barriers probably get sued for using 00:23:52.730 --> 00:23:55.509 the name sim and something by maxis or whoever 00:23:55.509 --> 00:23:58.039 it is now you have to set it to be sued Good 00:23:58.039 --> 00:24:03.190 point. So I've made this entire management simulation 00:24:03.190 --> 00:24:06.410 game where it creates a random map every time 00:24:06.410 --> 00:24:09.829 with random cities and towns dotted around there

00:24:09.829 --> 00:24:12.009 and you just plant your farms and you've got 00:24:12.009 --> 00:24:14.910 to see can I become my own berry empire? Can 00:24:14.910 --> 00:24:18.869 I get to a billion pound turnover at some point? 00:24:18.950 --> 00:24:22.440 And it works really well. I've slowly... I know 00:24:22.440 --> 00:24:24.400 I've built it. I know it's been based on everything 00:24:24.400 --> 00:24:26.299 I've asked and what I've aimed for, what it's 00:24:26.299 --> 00:24:29.779 to do and how I want it to play. But even I found 00:24:29.779 --> 00:24:32.220 myself, I'll go back to it every day and I might 00:24:32.220 --> 00:24:34.960 do a half an hour, 45 minutes here or there. 00:24:35.039 --> 00:24:36.920 Let's see how much. I think I'm making about 00:24:36.920 --> 00:24:39.680 20 million a year at the moment in my farms. 00:24:39.720 --> 00:24:42.200 And I've just opened some overseas farms so I 00:24:42.200 --> 00:24:45.119 can start doing berry supply year round. Because 00:24:45.119 --> 00:24:47.099 at the moment I've got contracts coming up saying, 00:24:47.160 --> 00:24:49.980 oh no, you can have the big money, but you need 00:24:49.980 --> 00:24:52.369 to give us berries. Every month of the year now, 00:24:52.490 --> 00:24:54.549 which I don't have with my YouTube. And it's 00:24:54.549 --> 00:24:56.589 just I've gone that deep. And yeah, it's just 00:24:56.589 --> 00:24:59.910 a standard pixel art style. It's nothing. It 00:24:59.910 --> 00:25:02.430 doesn't look amazing. It looks like it's straight 00:25:02.430 --> 00:25:05.849 out of the MS -DOS days. All browser -based. 00:25:05.970 --> 00:25:14.640 Job done. What have you been up to? I'm watching 00:25:14.640 --> 00:25:17.359 some stuff. Watching more YouTube, more Matt 00:25:17.359 --> 00:25:20.700 Armstrong, the guy who builds the cars. He's 00:25:20.700 --> 00:25:22.099 doing his yacht at the moment. I'm waiting for 00:25:22.099 --> 00:25:24.039 his next yacht video to come out. because i really 00:25:24.039 --> 00:25:28.519 do like the yacht ones uh i have played fair 00:25:28.750 --> 00:25:32.150 amount of games they're all old ones and they're 00:25:32.150 --> 00:25:36.089 all n64 games yeah so it's like you know just 00:25:36.089 --> 00:25:40.849 trying different ones out um my analog 3d arrives 00:25:40.849 --> 00:25:45.150 on friday will arrive so as this so jealous as 00:25:45.150 --> 00:25:48.369 this comes out i already would have had it um 00:25:48.440 --> 00:25:53.079 my parents for christmas have brought me the 00:25:53.650 --> 00:25:56.369 one of the carts that you put the sd card in 00:25:56.369 --> 00:25:58.569 yeah but i ordered it for him because the guy 00:25:58.569 --> 00:26:01.490 to make it and arrived today so i said to my 00:26:01.490 --> 00:26:03.450 parents like okay well i need to test it once 00:26:03.450 --> 00:26:05.349 i've tested it i'll give it you and then you 00:26:05.349 --> 00:26:07.029 can do whatever you want to do and leave it till 00:26:07.029 --> 00:26:10.250 december so that was very kind of them to do 00:26:10.250 --> 00:26:13.089 that and you saw i got those 8 -bit dough controllers 00:26:13.089 --> 00:26:18.009 so i got them mainly for my boy Because every 00:26:18.009 --> 00:26:19.730 time he plays on the N64, he can't get his head 00:26:19.730 --> 00:26:21.710 around the fact he's got three handles. I cannot 00:26:21.710 --> 00:26:24.269 comprehend that. Every time he was playing Banjo 00:26:24.269 --> 00:26:27.109 -Kazooie on it today, and he kept grabbing the 00:26:27.109 --> 00:26:28.990 edge ones. I'm like, no, dude, you need the analog 00:26:28.990 --> 00:26:30.549 stick. And he's trying to reach over to it. I'm 00:26:30.549 --> 00:26:33.170 like, no, just hand off. But on the middle one, 00:26:33.230 --> 00:26:35.930 he's like, oh, yeah. Yeah, you see, I still put 00:26:35.930 --> 00:26:40.410 the point is that the N64 was just about in the 00:26:40.410 --> 00:26:44.549 era and early enough. for us still not to really 00:26:44.549 --> 00:26:48.170 know what a good controller or controller design 00:26:48.170 --> 00:26:50.029 should be. So if you think, we went from the 00:26:50.029 --> 00:26:53.769 8 -bit consoles and the 16 -bit consoles, and 00:26:53.769 --> 00:26:57.009 we had a gamepad, which was just typically solid 00:26:57.009 --> 00:27:00.329 plastic, or a joystick. Then the PlayStation 00:27:00.329 --> 00:27:02.509 came out, and the PlayStation was the first one, 00:27:02.549 --> 00:27:04.789 really, that I can think of, I mean, I'm happy 00:27:04.789 --> 00:27:08.670 to be wrong if I am wrong, that had some form 00:27:08.670 --> 00:27:12.380 of ergonomics. To be comfortable in your hand. 00:27:12.980 --> 00:27:15.660 I think my perspective of the... Because I think 00:27:15.660 --> 00:27:19.880 the N64 was the first analogue stick. And... 00:27:19.880 --> 00:27:22.619 Did the DualShock not come out before the N64? 00:27:22.779 --> 00:27:24.200 I think it didn't have analogue sticks on it. 00:27:24.920 --> 00:27:27.319 The original. Let me look when... I might be 00:27:27.319 --> 00:27:28.960 wrong. Let me have a look when the analogue came 00:27:28.960 --> 00:27:31.339 up for DualShock. PlayStation, I think, understood. 00:27:32.150 --> 00:27:34.630 You hold it and you're either using the D -pad 00:27:34.630 --> 00:27:36.509 or using the stick. And you don't have to move 00:27:36.509 --> 00:27:40.329 your hands. Whereas... N64 and Nintendo were 00:27:40.329 --> 00:27:42.730 very much like, no, you're even using the D -pad. 00:27:43.079 --> 00:27:45.799 Or you use the annual stick. They do not combine. 00:27:46.039 --> 00:27:48.539 You must move your hand. You are either playing 00:27:48.539 --> 00:27:52.019 a 3D game or you're playing a 2D game, and they 00:27:52.019 --> 00:27:54.779 can never be one in the same thing. So you move 00:27:54.779 --> 00:27:57.299 your hand to the 3D, you move your hand to the 00:27:57.299 --> 00:28:01.059 2D, and

that's it. So 97 was the DualShock in 00:28:01.059 --> 00:28:06.160 Japan. 64 was 96 in Japan. So only just. Only 00:28:06.160 --> 00:28:10.859 just. But what I do like about that stick, it 00:28:10.859 --> 00:28:13.990 wouldn't work nowadays, but it worked. then is 00:28:13.990 --> 00:28:17.710 it's got the notches for the axis so yeah the 00:28:17.710 --> 00:28:22.170 eight point positions which i always actually 00:28:22.170 --> 00:28:24.250 liked because it meant you could move it and 00:28:24.250 --> 00:28:26.529 slot it in a diagonal position you know i've 00:28:26.529 --> 00:28:29.430 all i never got the hatred for the n64 controller 00:28:29.430 --> 00:28:31.869 i always found it comfortable i liked it never 00:28:31.869 --> 00:28:34.750 had an issue especially like well obviously grew 00:28:34.750 --> 00:28:37.430 up with golden eye so you kind of get used to 00:28:37.430 --> 00:28:40.890 it and you just like we got used to moving from 00:28:41.930 --> 00:28:45.069 arrow keys and space and control to play a first 00:28:45.069 --> 00:28:48.069 person shooter to do wasd in the mouse you get 00:28:48.069 --> 00:28:50.390 used to something and as it becomes the more 00:28:50.390 --> 00:28:52.970 popular trend that's what what kind of fits in 00:28:52.970 --> 00:28:57.910 oh i feel though that the fps appeared and then 00:28:57.910 --> 00:29:02.230 the controllers were created to allow for that 00:29:02.230 --> 00:29:06.029 kind of game yes because they very you can see 00:29:06.029 --> 00:29:11.190 when you play goldeneye it can be quite cumbersome 00:29:11.190 --> 00:29:14.029 sometimes to do any kind of movement outside 00:29:14.029 --> 00:29:16.410 the normal flight axis. Oh, it is painful. If 00:29:16.410 --> 00:29:18.509 you're trying to aim using the... Which is why 00:29:18.509 --> 00:29:21.069 the auto -aim is so essential. Yeah, 100%. But 00:29:21.069 --> 00:29:22.670 as soon as you've got that sniper rifle, you're 00:29:22.670 --> 00:29:26.549 fucked. Yeah. Three bullets and then you might 00:29:26.549 --> 00:29:29.069 hit what you want if you're lucky. Yeah. And 00:29:29.069 --> 00:29:32.289 holding that R button down to do that. I think 00:29:32.289 --> 00:29:35.769 that the NC4 controller is much more suited to 00:29:35.769 --> 00:29:38.650 3D platformers than it is to an FPS game. Yeah. 00:29:38.769 --> 00:29:41.819 Mario 64. Perfect. But saying that, you know, 00:29:41.900 --> 00:29:44.160 Goldeneye is amazing. I love Perfect Dark. Two 00:29:44.160 --> 00:29:48.140 really good FPS games. Yeah. No, I'm not going 00:29:48.140 --> 00:29:50.859 to disagree with you on that one. But yeah, as 00:29:50.859 --> 00:29:53.900 I said, I'm playing lots of N64 games. I just 00:29:53.900 --> 00:29:55.579 love that console. So I'm really excited for 00:29:55.579 --> 00:29:57.920 the analogs to come on Friday. I was hoping it 00:29:57.920 --> 00:29:59.960 would be here already, but it got stuck in customs. 00:30:00.279 --> 00:30:03.200 Yeah,

they need to open up a European warehouse. 00:30:03.599 --> 00:30:07.140 Yeah. The thing is, and it's UPS that charge 00:30:07.140 --> 00:30:09.759 you. And when you go to pay, it tells you why. 00:30:10.269 --> 00:30:14.869 And it says because of tariffs. It's literally 00:30:14.869 --> 00:30:17.990 there. And it's £52 or something. And then they 00:30:17.990 --> 00:30:20.230 add their own admin fee on it. So it cost me 00:30:20.230 --> 00:30:22.910 £60 .58. Well, you paid all that other fucking 00:30:22.910 --> 00:30:25.390 money for the console and then I got that. It'll 00:30:25.390 --> 00:30:27.589 be worth it. Instinct did warn me about that. 00:30:28.029 --> 00:30:30.049 Yeah. No, fair enough. But if you buy it from 00:30:30.049 --> 00:30:32.589 a UK stockist, they all have that built into 00:30:32.589 --> 00:30:35.589 the price. Yes. Because the only place you can 00:30:35.589 --> 00:30:38.119 get it is from... Comes from Hong Kong. Yeah, 00:30:38.180 --> 00:30:41.140 from Analog themselves. So they've all got it. 00:30:41.279 --> 00:30:43.440 So the only benefit you get from buying it from 00:30:43.440 --> 00:30:46.059 a UK stock is you get it quicker. But it's no 00:30:46.059 --> 00:30:48.019 cheaper. It's absolutely no cheaper whatsoever 00:30:48.019 --> 00:30:52.700 by buying from the UK because they add the charge 00:30:52.700 --> 00:30:55.599 on. Yeah, it's an interesting one. I like Analog. 00:30:55.599 --> 00:30:57.660 I like their products they've made. I just kind 00:30:57.660 --> 00:31:00.480 of think, why are you doing it in the way you're 00:31:00.480 --> 00:31:05.670 doing it? It's almost like scarcity. has been 00:31:05.670 --> 00:31:09.609 purposely built in to drive the want for their 00:31:09.609 --> 00:31:13.809 hardware. But that's what they did with 3D. That's 00:31:13.809 --> 00:31:15.190 what they did with the Pocket. And then when 00:31:15.190 --> 00:31:17.589 I cancelled pre -order, they went. And it was 00:31:17.589 --> 00:31:20.130 months, months before they came back again. Well, 00:31:20.150 --> 00:31:21.509 it's the same with the Pocket. The Pocket sold 00:31:21.509 --> 00:31:23.269 out almost immediately. I love the look of the 00:31:23.269 --> 00:31:26.720 Pocket. Oh, the Pocket's brilliant, but do I 00:31:26.720 --> 00:31:29.240 need to spend that much money on it? Then buy 00:31:29.240 --> 00:31:31.279 the cartridge adapter so it can play the other 00:31:31.279 --> 00:31:34.039 games that it can do. Whereas I just want a Game 00:31:34.039 --> 00:31:37.670 Boy. And I've got a beautiful OLED Game Boy now 00:31:37.670 --> 00:31:40.789 that plays the games. And I've got an Evercade 00:31:40.789 --> 00:31:43.589 or whatever it's called cartridge for it. Everdrive, 00:31:43.690 --> 00:31:47.769 sorry. That's got my SD card. You've done it 00:31:47.769 --> 00:31:50.009 for the Game Boy, how I would do it. I just do 00:31:50.009 --> 00:31:53.150 love that. What you've got is what I would like 00:31:53.150 --> 00:31:56.309 to have, one of those. They've just released 00:31:56.309 --> 00:31:59.029 a Mega Drive one. Yeah, Mega Drive and SNES. 00:31:59.150 --> 00:32:01.349 Yeah, that's very cool. But again, you know, 00:32:01.410 --> 00:32:06.029 I... just got too much love for the n64 which 00:32:06.029 --> 00:32:08.430 is why i've gone for that all the other ones 00:32:08.430 --> 00:32:09.589 i'm like yeah they're great but i've got the 00:32:09.589 --> 00:32:11.329 original consoles i'm not too worried about it 00:32:11.329 --> 00:32:13.710 i'll play a megadrive in this game i'll emulate 00:32:13.710 --> 00:32:16.150 those exactly i'm happy just emulating you've 00:32:16.150 --> 00:32:20.269 got those you own them they are about the there's 00:32:20.660 --> 00:32:24.339 a nostalgia and the actual having it yeah whereas 00:32:24.339 --> 00:32:26.960 the n64 is something that we'd still actively 00:32:26.960 --> 00:32:32.920 play yeah and it doesn't go it's not an easy 00:32:32.920 --> 00:32:36.400 one to get on to big tvs like mine so hopefully 00:32:36.400 --> 00:32:39.000 the analog is going to solve that issue great 00:32:39.000 --> 00:32:42.720 um one modern game i've been playing is a game 00:32:42.720 --> 00:32:45.819 called enshrouded it's like a uh it's just come 00:32:45.819 --> 00:32:47.099 out of early access i bought it during early 00:32:47.099 --> 00:32:48.619 access played a bit a little bit and i was like 00:32:48.619 --> 00:32:50.680 oh i'll just wait for you to be out and now it's 00:32:50.680 --> 00:32:53.420 out so i might have talked about this already 00:32:53.420 --> 00:32:56.200 it's a or maybe i just spoke to you directly 00:32:56.200 --> 00:32:59.259 about it one of those survival rpg games that 00:32:59.259 --> 00:33:02.140 mark and i love to play all the time so i've 00:33:02.140 --> 00:33:04.940 been playing that a little bit not too much But 00:33:04.940 --> 00:33:08.490 TV -wise, something I'm really liking and something 00:33:08.490 --> 00:33:11.130 I really didn't. And I'm a bit disappointed that 00:33:11.130 --> 00:33:14.579 the one I didn't. So I have spoke about it before 00:33:14.579 --> 00:33:17.660 on this Monster, the series called Monsters, 00:33:17.660 --> 00:33:19.960 four series now, Netflix, where it's the serial 00:33:19.960 --> 00:33:24.539 killers. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, they all 00:33:24.539 --> 00:33:26.940 called now Jeffrey Dahmer, the two brothers, 00:33:27.140 --> 00:33:29.980 and Ed Gein. And the Ed Gein one I really liked. 00:33:30.099 --> 00:33:32.039 Well, they're doing one now for Lizzie Borden, 00:33:32.180 --> 00:33:37.470 who is a girl who... allegedly axe murdered her 00:33:37.470 --> 00:33:41.079 step mom and dad and then got all the inheritance 00:33:41.079 --> 00:33:44.059 and run off uh went to trial and she was acquitted 00:33:44.059 --> 00:33:47.980 that's the real life story of it and i don't 00:33:47.980 --> 00:33:51.259 know considering i sat through jeffrey dharma 00:33:51.259

--> 00:33:55.119 murdering and doing all these things to all these 00:33:55.119 --> 00:33:59.759 poor men and sat through ed gein eating people 00:33:59.759 --> 00:34:03.549 and making sofas out of skin To then watch this, 00:34:03.609 --> 00:34:06.569 which arguably isn't as bloodthirsty. There's 00:34:06.569 --> 00:34:08.769 just something about it that really got me. There's 00:34:08.769 --> 00:34:11.389 a whole bit of an episode where people get poisoned 00:34:11.389 --> 00:34:13.769 and they're puking up everywhere. And it was 00:34:13.769 --> 00:34:16.590 so visceral and disgusting, I felt sick. And 00:34:16.590 --> 00:34:20.230 Miranda and I had to skip ahead of it. Wow. Which 00:34:20.230 --> 00:34:22.570 is not like eating with us. Because we've seen 00:34:22.570 --> 00:34:25.110 the bloody Welcome to Derry. And if anyone's 00:34:25.110 --> 00:34:26.650 seen Welcome to Derry, they know how bad that 00:34:26.650 --> 00:34:29.190 is. Yeah, I'm not going to. It's got child murdering 00:34:29.190 --> 00:34:33.880 in it. And this... And then there's a bit where 00:34:33.880 --> 00:34:38.280 it starts doing another murderer, and I think 00:34:38.280 --> 00:34:41.179 it's because she's like a prostitute, but then 00:34:41.179 --> 00:34:44.550 she gets raped. And I'm not going to get flagged 00:34:44.550 --> 00:34:48.829 on YouTube if I said raped. That's one of the 00:34:48.829 --> 00:34:51.269 worst things for me in a show. I will stop watching 00:34:51.269 --> 00:34:54.610 it because of that. I see people get murdered 00:34:54.610 --> 00:34:56.530 and skinned alive, but rape, I can't hold the 00:34:56.530 --> 00:34:59.590 line at rape. That's it, I'm not watching it 00:34:59.590 --> 00:35:01.760 anymore. So episode four, I've given up. I said, 00:35:01.840 --> 00:35:03.380 it's got eight episodes. I don't care. I'm not 00:35:03.380 --> 00:35:04.639 going to watch this one. I'm going to skip this 00:35:04.639 --> 00:35:08.360 one. And there was another show out that we were 00:35:08.360 --> 00:35:10.860 like, well, we didn't know at the time. We were 00:35:10.860 --> 00:35:12.420 like, let's just find something else to watch. 00:35:12.460 --> 00:35:13.820 Just find something that we're going to like. 00:35:14.159 --> 00:35:16.099 And we're just going through Netflix. And we 00:35:16.099 --> 00:35:18.059 stumbled on this one called The East Palace. 00:35:18.800 --> 00:35:20.300 And we just sat there. You know how it plays 00:35:20.300 --> 00:35:22.079 a little trailer when you sit on it. And we're 00:35:22.079 --> 00:35:25.809 like, fuck, this looks brilliant. And what it 00:35:25.809 --> 00:35:29.369 is, it's set in, I would call it field of Japan, 00:35:29.469 --> 00:35:32.610 but it's just in the past Japan. I'm assuming. 00:35:32.769 --> 00:35:36.110 Sorry, everyone. I think you're saying Japan. 00:35:36.110 --> 00:35:38.750 I'm going to bring it up now. It's Korean, you 00:35:38.750 --> 00:35:43.409 absolute fucking twat. Does it even say?

Turns 00:35:43.409 --> 00:35:45.369 out it's in Turkey. Turns out it's in Turkey, 00:35:45.449 --> 00:35:54.190 yeah. It's basically the emperor has this big 00:35:54.190 --> 00:35:57.510 massive palace and all of his heirs are dying, 00:35:57.690 --> 00:36:01.449 like magically, and they're saying it's the lake 00:36:01.449 --> 00:36:07.079 spirit. So he basically gets this guy to come 00:36:07.079 --> 00:36:09.480 in to figure out what it is and try and remove 00:36:09.480 --> 00:36:14.000 the lake spirit. So I'm calling it a mixture 00:36:14.000 --> 00:36:18.059 between Constantine and the anime Demon Slayer 00:36:18.059 --> 00:36:21.320 that I talk about here all the time. I think 00:36:21.320 --> 00:36:23.880 it's like a mashup of those, but it's live action 00:36:23.880 --> 00:36:27.519 and it's subtitled and it is fucking awesome. 00:36:28.030 --> 00:36:30.110 I can't tell you enough how brilliant this thing 00:36:30.110 --> 00:36:31.570 is. I've got Karen watching it and she's been 00:36:31.570 --> 00:36:35.769 messaging me. It's so good. And so to go from 00:36:35.769 --> 00:36:37.230 Monster of Elysian Border, which we were both 00:36:37.230 --> 00:36:38.929 so gutted that we didn't like and we were just 00:36:38.929 --> 00:36:41.130 so, ugh, to then go to this, which arguably is 00:36:41.130 --> 00:36:42.849 more gruesome because there's monsters, he's 00:36:42.849 --> 00:36:44.889 killing monsters, he's going to like a hell dimension 00:36:44.889 --> 00:36:47.730 and all kinds of stuff is happening. And we're 00:36:47.730 --> 00:36:49.929 both like, yeah, this is brilliant. And we stayed 00:36:49.929 --> 00:36:51.929 up to nearly midnight watching the first three 00:36:51.929 --> 00:36:54.690 episodes of it, which isn't like us. So yeah, 00:36:54.809 --> 00:36:56.869 if anyone wants something not to watch, I say 00:36:56.869 --> 00:37:00.489 don't watch Monster. You should watch the East 00:37:00.489 --> 00:37:05.320 Palace. you know it's good when you don't look 00:37:05.320 --> 00:37:08.059 at your phone wow i mean one reason you don't 00:37:08.059 --> 00:37:11.300 because you need the subtitles and they do buy 00:37:11.300 --> 00:37:13.880 them at you quick and there's a lot of kind of 00:37:13.880 --> 00:37:16.340 different types of spirits you want to know the 00:37:16.340 --> 00:37:18.400 names of doesn't really matter but you know you 00:37:18.400 --> 00:37:21.059 might want to but i don't look away because it's 00:37:21.059 --> 00:37:25.179 so it's just good awesome like the the cgi is 00:37:25.179 --> 00:37:30.500 so good as well like these eastern um tv shows 00:37:30.500 --> 00:37:33.889 and films and stuff They really, like, they put 00:37:33.889 --> 00:37:36.170 Disney to fucking shame. They make Disney look 00:37:36.170 --> 00:37:39.289 like a first year fucking uni student. Honestly. 00:37:39.610 --> 00:37:44.219 It's so good. So good. Yeah. Awesome. Really 00:37:44.219 --> 00:37:45.960 recommend it. So that's what I've

been doing. 00:37:46.199 --> 00:37:49.179 Mostly N64 and wanking over the East Palace. 00:37:53.969 --> 00:37:59.650 Accessing library computer data. Dread 2012 with 00:37:59.650 --> 00:38:03.789 the wonderful Carl Urban, who everyone loves, 00:38:03.789 --> 00:38:05.469 and I will not hear anything bad said about him. 00:38:05.710 --> 00:38:08.690 Ever. And actually, also Lena Headey, I pretty 00:38:08.690 --> 00:38:11.250 like her as well. Yeah. Or Lena, Lena, Lena. 00:38:11.690 --> 00:38:13.730 I don't know. Whatever. I would have gone with 00:38:13.730 --> 00:38:18.400 Lena. L -E -N -A. So when this film came out, 00:38:18.579 --> 00:38:21.780 I remember, I didn't see it at the cinema. Nor 00:38:21.780 --> 00:38:24.380 did I. And I've got a feeling there's something 00:38:24.380 --> 00:38:29.130 to do with, there's a, is it a film called The 00:38:29.130 --> 00:38:33.329 Raid? Don't know. I'm going to have to look it 00:38:33.329 --> 00:38:36.389 up now, aren't I? Just because I... I just need 00:38:36.389 --> 00:38:41.130 to do these things. And I'm pretty sure, is it 00:38:41.130 --> 00:38:46.989 the raid? Yeah, the raid. Here we go. 2011, a 00:38:46.989 --> 00:38:49.889 SWAT team becomes trapped in a tenement run by 00:38:49.889 --> 00:38:54.050 a ruthless mobster and his army of killers and 00:38:54.050 --> 00:38:58.090 thugs. Sound familiar? So very, very much based 00:38:58.090 --> 00:39:01.150 on that idea. And that's kind of where this has 00:39:01.150 --> 00:39:04.280 come from. And I just remember people say, oh. 00:39:04.750 --> 00:39:07.630 It's so good. It's so much better than the 90s 00:39:07.630 --> 00:39:09.250 film. I can't believe you haven't seen it. You've 00:39:09.250 --> 00:39:10.469 got to watch it. And I remember sitting down 00:39:10.469 --> 00:39:13.429 and watching it for the first time. I really 00:39:13.429 --> 00:39:15.530 enjoyed it. I thought, wow, I can see what people 00:39:15.530 --> 00:39:20.099 were talking about. This is really good. And 00:39:20.099 --> 00:39:23.159 we'll talk about my current thoughts when you've 00:39:23.159 --> 00:39:24.539 done the breakdown of what the film is. You can 00:39:24.539 --> 00:39:26.739 do the recap this time. I did the last two. You're 00:39:26.739 --> 00:39:30.559 welcome to do it. Okay. So we are in post -apocalyptic 00:39:30.559 --> 00:39:36.610 world where I think they say it's eight. Yeah. 00:39:37.110 --> 00:39:40.130 Or is it 80 million? I think it's 80 million, 00:39:40.170 --> 00:39:43.710 the megacity. Yeah. Basically, you now just have 00:39:43.710 --> 00:39:46.130 a handful of cities across the world, and they 00:39:46.130 --> 00:39:48.690 are megacities. And inside those, you have these 00:39:48.690 --> 00:39:52.550 giant megacity buildings, which are thousands 00:39:52.550 --> 00:39:55.590 of tenants in what, in effect, is a city in a 00:39:55.590 --> 00:40:01.449 building itself. Law is still there. but it's 00:40:01.449 --> 00:40:04.130 really not going

very well for the public. And 00:40:04.130 --> 00:40:08.090 what we then end up with is the judges, who are 00:40:08.090 --> 00:40:14.050 the law. And they are judge, jury, and executioner. 00:40:14.050 --> 00:40:17.469 That's it. So not only do they roam the streets 00:40:17.469 --> 00:40:19.809 looking for crime and stopping the crime, but 00:40:19.809 --> 00:40:22.530 they will also determine, are you going to go 00:40:22.530 --> 00:40:25.329 after an ISO cube for punishment, i .e. a prison 00:40:25.329 --> 00:40:29.590 cell, or... Oh, you're just going to be executed 00:40:29.590 --> 00:40:32.070 because of what you've done. Yeah, basically. 00:40:33.530 --> 00:40:36.610 And that's it. And we are following Judge Dredd, 00:40:36.610 --> 00:40:40.000 who is one of these judges. You don't really 00:40:40.000 --> 00:40:41.760 know much about him in the start of the film. 00:40:42.820 --> 00:40:47.539 He gets called back after chasing down a bad 00:40:47.539 --> 00:40:50.619 guy and doing the job that he's meant to do. 00:40:50.920 --> 00:40:54.460 He gets called back and guess what? There's a 00:40:54.460 --> 00:40:58.800 rookie involved. Just like any police buddy film. 00:40:59.199 --> 00:41:03.340 This is not a police buddy film. If you want 00:41:03.340 --> 00:41:05.800 that, Tango and Cash. I was just about to say, 00:41:05.820 --> 00:41:08.940 this is Tango and Cash. Turner and Hooch. We'll 00:41:08.940 --> 00:41:11.539 just keep adding to it, shall we? What's the 00:41:11.539 --> 00:41:14.940 one with the dog? What's the one with the big 00:41:14.940 --> 00:41:20.699 dog? Turner and Hooch. Oh, sorry, yeah. He comes 00:41:20.699 --> 00:41:25.380 back and he's been landed with a rookie who has 00:41:25.380 --> 00:41:29.099 failed all her exams, but only by a few points. 00:41:29.119 --> 00:41:32.059 It doesn't really matter. But we need her because 00:41:32.059 --> 00:41:37.760 she's got telepathic skills. Yes. So he agrees 00:41:37.760 --> 00:41:44.099 that he will mentor her on a one day shift trial 00:41:44.099 --> 00:41:48.929 basis and it's pass or fail. They take the first 00:41:48.929 --> 00:41:51.130 job that comes to them. which is Peach Trees, 00:41:51.130 --> 00:41:54.710 one of the big mega city developments. And there 00:41:54.710 --> 00:41:56.670 seems to have been some people killed. And we 00:41:56.670 --> 00:41:59.409 see some lovely thugs throw them off the very, 00:41:59.449 --> 00:42:01.510 very top floor. And bear in mind, these buildings 00:42:01.510 --> 00:42:04.309 are hundreds of stories. I think it's 250 stories. 00:42:04.429 --> 00:42:05.889 Something like that, yeah. Well, they get skinned 00:42:05.889 --> 00:42:09.190 first. They get skinned and they're thrown after 00:42:09.190 --> 00:42:11.329 taking some weird and wonderful drugs off the 00:42:11.329 --> 00:42:14.030 top of the building all the way down to the ground 00:42:14.030 --> 00:42:16.269 where they go splatting. The judges are called. 00:42:16.610 -->

00:42:19.360 Now, the judges turn up. and they decide to make 00:42:19.360 --> 00:42:21.920 some arrests, and they finally find out who may 00:42:21.920 --> 00:42:24.320 be involved, and they go and raid their property 00:42:24.320 --> 00:42:28.199 inside the building. Unfortunately, the mob gangster 00:42:28.199 --> 00:42:30.980 who runs that building finds out that they've 00:42:30.980 --> 00:42:34.000 arrested one of her right -hand men, who she's 00:42:34.000 --> 00:42:38.159 pretty sure he'll let all the cats out of the 00:42:38.159 --> 00:42:42.039 bag. So, because she's so all -powerful and has 00:42:42.039 --> 00:42:45.380 control over the building, she uses someone that 00:42:45.380 --> 00:42:48.570 you later find out was... eyes gouged out by 00:42:48.570 --> 00:42:51.429 her to lock the building into what's known as 00:42:51.429 --> 00:42:52.750 war mode. Was that where he's got funny eyes? 00:42:53.230 --> 00:42:55.849 Yes. We'll come back to it. Oh yeah, the scene 00:42:55.849 --> 00:42:57.409 where he pokes his eyes out. I didn't realise 00:42:57.409 --> 00:43:00.329 that was him. Into war mode, which is basically 00:43:00.329 --> 00:43:03.230 we've gone to war again, the world's going to 00:43:03.230 --> 00:43:05.489 get nuked, so it's blast shutters everything, 00:43:05.730 --> 00:43:09.550 and this entire tower block becomes self -sustaining 00:43:09.550 --> 00:43:11.590 and protected from the outside world. That is 00:43:11.590 --> 00:43:14.710 the idea of war mode. Nothing gets in, but nothing 00:43:14.710 --> 00:43:18.599 gets out. And then she basically says, anyone 00:43:18.599 --> 00:43:20.440 that supports me, which is basically all the 00:43:20.440 --> 00:43:23.000 bad guys in the building, go and kill those judges. 00:43:23.909 --> 00:43:26.809 And it makes the problem go away. And that's 00:43:26.809 --> 00:43:30.489 basically what the film is. I'll carry on to 00:43:30.489 --> 00:43:33.869 the end. The judges make their way up the building 00:43:33.869 --> 00:43:37.889 to go and sort her out. At one point, they get 00:43:37.889 --> 00:43:42.110 split up. She uses her psychic powers. She has 00:43:42.110 --> 00:43:47.050 a bit of a brain fuckery moment. gets captured 00:43:47.050 --> 00:43:50.409 he doesn't get captured he then goes up to finish 00:43:50.409 --> 00:43:53.250 it all off they managed to raid they managed 00:43:53.250 --> 00:43:56.250 to radio after blowing a hole in the wall um 00:43:56.250 --> 00:43:59.889 and it turns out some bad judges turn up who 00:43:59.889 --> 00:44:03.130 are all dispatched rather quickly and quite disappointingly 00:44:03.130 --> 00:44:06.750 uh and he finally goes up there confronts mama 00:44:06.750 --> 00:44:10.070 rescues his partner and throws mama to her death 00:44:10.070 --> 00:44:12.949 hoping that that doesn't blow up the entire building 00:44:12.949 --> 00:44:18.030 that is the film And then she's very disenheartened 00:44:18.030 --> 00:44:20.849 by being a judge and

realizes it probably isn't 00:44:20.849 --> 00:44:24.530 for her. She storms off in a little huff. And 00:44:24.530 --> 00:44:27.409 then Judge Dredd is met by the captain or whatever 00:44:27.409 --> 00:44:29.710 it is of their department. What did you make 00:44:29.710 --> 00:44:33.130 of her? She passed. She'll be a good bloody judge, 00:44:33.230 --> 00:44:37.440 blah, blah, blah. End of the film. Yep. I quite 00:44:37.440 --> 00:44:39.239 like that it was a day in the life of the judge. 00:44:39.559 --> 00:44:43.340 It wasn't some massive, sprawling story across 00:44:43.340 --> 00:44:46.960 the city where he, like the film is, the original 00:44:46.960 --> 00:44:51.699 one. It's not like a big, massive, it was all 00:44:51.699 --> 00:44:54.500 just very contained, just one shift gone bad. 00:44:54.800 --> 00:44:56.940 Yeah, it's one shift gone bad, which is always 00:44:56.940 --> 00:44:58.860 a nice way of looking at it, but it's basically 00:44:58.860 --> 00:45:01.940 Judge Dredd meets Die Hard. Oh yeah, I suppose. 00:45:02.400 --> 00:45:04.159 And Die Hard does it better. But he had shoes 00:45:04.159 --> 00:45:09.460 on. He had shoes on. One comment Jim made while 00:45:09.460 --> 00:45:13.820 watching it. His face must have really hurt after 00:45:13.820 --> 00:45:17.639 filming it. But that's purely the comic. That's 00:45:17.639 --> 00:45:21.139 purely 2000 AD Judge Dredd is what this is based 00:45:21.139 --> 00:45:22.960 on. He never takes his helmet off. He never takes 00:45:22.960 --> 00:45:24.840 his helmet off in all of it. You've got this 00:45:24.840 --> 00:45:26.659 angry looking face under it. And in fact, if 00:45:26.659 --> 00:45:28.360 you look at all the judges, they're all pulling 00:45:28.360 --> 00:45:31.059 that face when they're on the most plays. Is 00:45:31.059 --> 00:45:33.019 that just part of the training? Right, everybody? 00:45:33.199 --> 00:45:36.010 We're going to do face, Face training now, everyone. 00:45:36.190 --> 00:45:39.550 Pull that angry face. No, Steve, that's not angry 00:45:39.550 --> 00:45:41.809 enough. I like the comment at the beginning where 00:45:41.809 --> 00:45:45.199 she takes her helmet off and she never puts it 00:45:45.199 --> 00:45:47.000 back on. And he's like, why are you taking your 00:45:47.000 --> 00:45:49.539 helmet off? And she says, the helmet will interfere 00:45:49.539 --> 00:45:51.440 with my psychic abilities. And then he goes, 00:45:51.539 --> 00:45:53.739 a bullet would interfere with it more. Yeah, 00:45:53.739 --> 00:45:58.010 that's the best line in the film. That is the 00:45:58.010 --> 00:46:01.280 best line in the film, in my opinion. I'll come 00:46:01.280 --> 00:46:02.860 straight off it. Really enjoyed it the first 00:46:02.860 --> 00:46:05.039 time I watched it. Second time watching it, I 00:46:05.039 --> 00:46:09.219 thought, fuck me, this is poncy. Poncy? All the 00:46:09.219 --> 00:46:11.900 fucking slowdown sparkly scenes for the drugs. 00:46:11.940 -->

00:46:14.019 I was very Max Payne. I've got absolutely no 00:46:14.019 --> 00:46:16.940 time for it anymore. Yeah, it's a film of its 00:46:16.940 --> 00:46:19.300 time. You're adding so much time to this film 00:46:19.300 --> 00:46:22.039 that's not needed. because of the slow -mo because 00:46:22.039 --> 00:46:24.260 the shitty slow -mo i just didn't like it was 00:46:24.260 --> 00:46:27.000 called slow i don't care if it's called slow 00:46:27.000 --> 00:46:29.079 -mo that's brilliant just tell me it's causing 00:46:29.079 --> 00:46:32.380 that effect don't have to every two minutes someone 00:46:32.380 --> 00:46:34.940 else has taken it so now we're gonna it was an 00:46:34.940 --> 00:46:38.610 excuse for slaughter porn Yeah. That's all it 00:46:38.610 --> 00:46:41.190 was. It was an excuse for them to have slow motion 00:46:41.190 --> 00:46:43.750 of people being ripped to shred by the guns. 00:46:43.989 --> 00:46:45.409 Yeah, because you're giving it their perspective, 00:46:45.469 --> 00:46:48.489 but it doesn't give them enhanced reaction times. 00:46:48.570 --> 00:46:50.889 It just makes it all play out slowly. They're 00:46:50.889 --> 00:46:52.929 not gaining anything from it. Yeah, no, no, no, 00:46:52.929 --> 00:46:55.429 absolutely not. And I didn't like the filming 00:46:55.429 --> 00:46:58.789 style. And going back to it now, I don't remember 00:46:58.789 --> 00:47:02.650 it being like this. I guess I just grazed over 00:47:02.650 --> 00:47:04.670 it because I enjoyed the film. But second time, 00:47:04.690 --> 00:47:06.210 third time watching it through now, it's just 00:47:06.210 --> 00:47:11.340 like, i just i don't know i just second yeah 00:47:11.340 --> 00:47:14.320 second time watching it free for me it felt like 00:47:14.320 --> 00:47:16.519 the first because i remembered absolutely nothing 00:47:16.519 --> 00:47:19.340 about it other than mama having the big scar 00:47:19.340 --> 00:47:21.039 on her face it was the only thing i remembered 00:47:21.039 --> 00:47:26.480 yeah and uh i did find myself kind of slipping 00:47:26.480 --> 00:47:29.920 away from it but i didn't dislike it oh no i'm 00:47:29.920 --> 00:47:34.000 not saying i was like yeah i was it's got the 00:47:34.000 --> 00:47:35.940 brutality that you got from the original comics 00:47:35.940 --> 00:47:38.420 not that I've read many of them but I do vaguely 00:47:38.420 --> 00:47:42.559 know about 2000 AD and Judge Dredd I thought 00:47:42.559 --> 00:47:45.260 the storyline was fine I liked the idea of them 00:47:45.260 --> 00:47:47.059 being locked in this building and it just being 00:47:47.059 --> 00:47:49.619 one singular location that you're working through 00:47:49.619 --> 00:47:54.489 I do like it when films do that I thought on 00:47:54.489 --> 00:47:56.570 the most part excluding the slow -mo effects 00:47:56.570 --> 00:48:00.670 everything looked pretty cool I like the acting. 00:48:00.750 --> 00:48:04.250 I like Carl Urban, albeit he's very wooden in

00:48:04.250 --> 00:48:08.989 this, but that's how Dread is meant to be. You 00:48:08.989 --> 00:48:12.389 know, overall, I'm not dissatisfied. I don't 00:48:12.389 --> 00:48:17.170 like the film. I just find it, I don't know, 00:48:17.250 --> 00:48:19.960 that's just something that, you're right, I felt 00:48:19.960 --> 00:48:22.460 myself just ebbing away from it ever so slightly. 00:48:22.559 --> 00:48:24.920 It's losing my interest. Oh, no, now it's picked 00:48:24.920 --> 00:48:28.920 it up again. Oh, I'm losing it again. I don't 00:48:28.920 --> 00:48:31.300 know. There was something about it that led to 00:48:31.300 --> 00:48:35.199 that. I'm going to say it. I like the 90s film. 00:48:35.280 --> 00:48:40.300 It's cheesy shit. I love it. I enjoyed it all 00:48:40.300 --> 00:48:42.579 the way through, really. I just got a bit disappointed 00:48:42.579 --> 00:48:45.199 at the end with how the judge was at the end 00:48:45.199 --> 00:48:46.940 because I feel like he went through the whole 00:48:46.940 --> 00:48:52.500 thing. He was doing it by the law. I am the law. 00:48:52.599 --> 00:48:54.800 It was very much that mode all the way through. 00:48:56.090 --> 00:49:00.420 till he passes judgment on mama and using the 00:49:00.420 --> 00:49:04.900 excuse that he she got thrown off because you 00:49:04.900 --> 00:49:07.340 know the range of the device she attaches to 00:49:07.340 --> 00:49:12.000 let's let's test the range yeah so fine but i 00:49:12.000 --> 00:49:14.099 don't think he should have sprayed her with that 00:49:14.099 --> 00:49:18.019 stuff he sprays her with slow -mo so she gets 00:49:18.019 --> 00:49:21.000 the fear of the falling for a reason and i don't 00:49:21.000 --> 00:49:24.039 think that's what a him as the judge would be 00:49:24.039 --> 00:49:26.480 doing he's not there for revenge he's passing 00:49:26.480 --> 00:49:29.139 judgment correct he should be robotic with it 00:49:29.139 --> 00:49:32.099 like a terminator would be arnold schwarzenegger's 00:49:32.099 --> 00:49:35.900 t800 would not be spraying mama with that spray 00:49:35.900 --> 00:49:38.099 he would have looked at her picked it up and 00:49:38.099 --> 00:49:40.920 chucked her off in effect he just used the drug 00:49:40.920 --> 00:49:42.780 that's probably breaking the law itself which 00:49:42.780 --> 00:49:44.960 he's not meant to do and he's very anal about 00:49:44.960 --> 00:49:51.369 that yeah he's forced a somebody to um Take a 00:49:51.369 --> 00:49:53.909 narcotic. To take a narcotics without consent. 00:49:54.650 --> 00:49:56.610 Forced narcotics without consent. She should 00:49:56.610 --> 00:49:58.869 judge him on that. It doesn't matter how that 00:49:58.869 --> 00:50:00.510 person's guilty of all the things they've done. 00:50:00.650 --> 00:50:03.949 It then doesn't excuse your actions. And there's 00:50:03.949 --> 00:50:09.289 points where she lets someone go. I've already 00:50:09.289 --> 00:50:13.289 failed anyway. And my telepathy showed

that they 00:50:13.289 --> 00:50:15.789 were absolutely innocent anyway. So I've not 00:50:15.789 --> 00:50:19.420 broken the law. Yeah. She passed judgment on 00:50:19.420 --> 00:50:21.900 him. Exactly. And my judgment was he was innocent 00:50:21.900 --> 00:50:25.380 of anything, so I let him go. Yeah. So he's very 00:50:25.380 --> 00:50:27.780 anal about people doing the right things. Why 00:50:27.780 --> 00:50:30.679 would he do that? But he accepted it. Yeah. He 00:50:30.679 --> 00:50:33.760 accepted her saying, he didn't, you know, the 00:50:33.760 --> 00:50:36.980 judge who sprays the woman just sprays mama with 00:50:36.980 --> 00:50:40.639 the spray in about 15 minutes time is not the 00:50:40.639 --> 00:50:43.300 same judge who has stood there. No. That judge 00:50:43.300 --> 00:50:46.239 who sprays, he would have gone, no, shot him. 00:50:46.929 --> 00:50:48.650 because he would have blamed him for whatever 00:50:48.650 --> 00:50:51.730 because he's not then thinking actually no she's 00:50:51.730 --> 00:50:54.809 right he was under duress he didn't control it 00:50:54.809 --> 00:50:57.989 she was completely manipulating him he's had 00:50:57.989 --> 00:51:01.349 judgment he's being let off he was he's a victim 00:51:01.349 --> 00:51:05.250 in this too do you know what the big problem 00:51:05.250 --> 00:51:07.650 is and i think this was the biggest problem for 00:51:07.650 --> 00:51:11.519 me with this film it wasn't a judge dread film 00:51:11.519 --> 00:51:17.880 it was a psychic cop film because that's what 00:51:17.880 --> 00:51:21.519 the film's really about it's her making the grade 00:51:21.519 --> 00:51:23.960 proving she can do it and then going through 00:51:23.960 --> 00:51:27.219 it and dread is just along for the ride now when 00:51:27.219 --> 00:51:29.699 you have a film and we'll go back to die hard 00:51:29.699 --> 00:51:35.010 we like die hard we know die hard you actively 00:51:35.010 --> 00:51:37.989 know that bruce willis isn't quite in the right 00:51:37.989 --> 00:51:40.030 he's been a bit of a dick obviously there's the 00:51:40.030 --> 00:51:44.269 separations going on and whatever else um his 00:51:44.269 --> 00:51:48.050 wife again you get the idea that maybe she's 00:51:48.050 --> 00:51:50.590 dicking around or he's dicked and we don't quite 00:51:50.590 --> 00:51:53.610 know what's gone on there so you start off with 00:51:53.610 --> 00:51:56.929 this idea of someone's done something wrong i'm 00:51:57.280 --> 00:51:59.340 not necessarily sure i like that but over the 00:51:59.340 --> 00:52:04.079 entire film they show growth or warmth or something 00:52:04.079 --> 00:52:09.000 at least that shows they have some form of character 00:52:09.000 --> 00:52:13.800 development Now, basing it on a film for Dread, 00:52:13.920 --> 00:52:16.320 so Die Hard, we base it on John McClane. John 00:52:16.320 --> 00:52:21.219 McClane goes from going there to rescuing to 00:52:21.219 --> 00:52:23.340 I miss my family, I want my family, and doing 00:52:23.340 --> 00:52:25.840 everything that he can. And you get that character 00:52:25.840 --> 00:52:27.679 development and you get the ending that you want. 00:52:28.320 --> 00:52:31.199 Dread, what development do you see with Dread? 00:52:31.699 --> 00:52:35.059 Well, he gets worse at the end because he breaks 00:52:35.059 --> 00:52:41.079 his rules. He gets worse, but really... only 00:52:41.079 --> 00:52:44.780 very very minorly but there's nothing about him 00:52:44.780 --> 00:52:46.860 there's no character development there's no growth 00:52:46.860 --> 00:52:50.599 from his character that constant scowl on his 00:52:50.599 --> 00:52:52.739 face which i know is from the comic book you 00:52:52.739 --> 00:52:58.360 get no real pleasure from seeing his character 00:52:58.360 --> 00:53:01.500 on screen and he's the main reason for the film 00:53:01.500 --> 00:53:05.760 he is the it's called dread whereas she we get 00:53:05.760 --> 00:53:09.360 the whole development for her And that's really 00:53:09.360 --> 00:53:11.840 who the story is following. But most people have 00:53:11.840 --> 00:53:13.900 gone to watch that film because it's Judge Dredd. 00:53:14.000 --> 00:53:16.860 You base it on Judge Dredd. And actually, the 00:53:16.860 --> 00:53:20.139 film's not actually that enjoyable because the 00:53:20.139 --> 00:53:24.079 character gives you nothing. He gives you nothing 00:53:24.079 --> 00:53:28.400 except for violence and the action. Okay, fine. 00:53:28.559 --> 00:53:30.539 If you're fine with a film that's just purely 00:53:30.539 --> 00:53:32.679 violence and action, which I can be sometimes 00:53:32.679 --> 00:53:35.900 if I'm in the mood for that, fine. Go for it. 00:53:36.869 --> 00:53:40.409 But he's so rigid. And it just feels like the 00:53:40.409 --> 00:53:45.639 film was lacking something. I feel that's what 00:53:45.639 --> 00:53:47.340 it was lacking. It was lacking that development 00:53:47.340 --> 00:53:49.380 that makes you want to carry on watching it. 00:53:49.659 --> 00:53:52.179 Instead, as you say, four -fifths of the film, 00:53:52.239 --> 00:53:58.050 he's just the same broken, cold Judge Dredd. 00:53:58.309 --> 00:54:00.809 But I think that is also playing into what we 00:54:00.809 --> 00:54:03.530 said earlier with this is just a shift. This 00:54:03.530 --> 00:54:06.030 is a day for Judge Dredd. He's not going to have 00:54:06.030 --> 00:54:08.550 character development one day because it's just... 00:54:08.940 --> 00:54:13.440 And that's what Megacity 1 is and everything 00:54:13.440 --> 00:54:15.280 like that. That's why he's like that already. 00:54:15.579 --> 00:54:17.840 It's just horrendous. It's never going to get 00:54:17.840 --> 00:54:20.019 better. He had his character development in the 00:54:20.019 --> 00:54:23.300 film before this, which wasn't made. But there's 00:54:23.300 --> 00:54:29.550 something to be said for Hollywood often putting 00:54:29.550 --> 00:54:34.949 in

some form of happy moment in any film. Because... 00:54:36.139 --> 00:54:38.400 It turns out, actually, that might be something 00:54:38.400 --> 00:54:42.219 that is quite necessary to actually make the 00:54:42.219 --> 00:54:44.920 film feel that bit more comfortable and enjoyable, 00:54:45.260 --> 00:54:49.599 keeping it so miserable and horrible. As I say, 00:54:49.599 --> 00:54:52.929 as an action, as a violent, as that sort of thrill, 00:54:53.269 --> 00:54:56.789 great, it ticks all the boxes. But for me, it 00:54:56.789 --> 00:54:59.630 was lacking something, and I feel that I had 00:54:59.630 --> 00:55:04.400 no connection with the film. And it's not often 00:55:04.400 --> 00:55:07.320 I watch a film that I feel like I've got no connection 00:55:07.320 --> 00:55:09.960 to it. It might be something that it instills 00:55:09.960 --> 00:55:12.880 in me that I feel like, okay, yeah, I can see 00:55:12.880 --> 00:55:16.159 how I would be in this situation or, oh, that 00:55:16.159 --> 00:55:18.400 reminds me of something from my youth or reminds 00:55:18.400 --> 00:55:20.760 me of something now that's going on in real time. 00:55:21.780 --> 00:55:27.469 This had nothing that I could really embed myself 00:55:27.469 --> 00:55:31.550 into. It was just, this is action for action's 00:55:31.550 --> 00:55:35.340 sake. I don't feel it was anything more than 00:55:35.340 --> 00:55:37.360 that. Now, I'm not saying it makes it a bad film. 00:55:38.059 --> 00:55:40.800 I'm just saying it's a film that I probably wouldn't 00:55:40.800 --> 00:55:43.059 choose to watch again for a few years now. Yeah, 00:55:43.099 --> 00:55:49.969 yeah, yeah. Yeah, I mean, I probably would never 00:55:49.969 --> 00:55:52.289 watch it again. And that's not saying I don't 00:55:52.289 --> 00:55:56.670 like it. I just, some films I just don't ever 00:55:56.670 --> 00:55:59.230 pick up again. Well, that's it, isn't it? And 00:55:59.230 --> 00:56:05.070 I think that's the curse of making a good one 00:56:05.070 --> 00:56:11.929 -off film. that doesn't tickle people's oh i'd 00:56:11.929 --> 00:56:13.530 quite like to watch that again at some point 00:56:13.530 --> 00:56:16.409 yeah going back to what you said about toy story 00:56:16.409 --> 00:56:17.949 when we were talking about remasters earlier 00:56:17.949 --> 00:56:21.030 i could watch a toy story at any point and be 00:56:21.030 --> 00:56:24.409 happy and that's because that film's been designed 00:56:24.409 --> 00:56:28.360 to do that but i could also let's see what other 00:56:28.360 --> 00:56:31.719 films could i do um the original smile film actually 00:56:31.719 --> 00:56:36.329 yeah horror film i'm not great with horror I 00:56:36.329 --> 00:56:39.489 thought it was brilliant it was not fun that's 00:56:39.489 --> 00:56:44.699 the wrong word but it enticed me in it freaked 00:56:44.699 --> 00:56:47.579 me out I would actually still go and watch that 00:56:47.579 --> 00:56:49.099 again I'd probably watch it around Halloween 00:56:49.099 --> 00:56:51.900 but I'd go back and watch that and I've got an 00:56:51.900 --> 00:56:53.460 interest in watching it again because I thought 00:56:53.460 --> 00:56:55.619 actually there were some really clever moments 00:56:55.619 --> 00:56:57.300 in it that made me think and all of that sort 00:56:57.300 --> 00:57:01.909 of thing Dredd should have done that for me it's 00:57:01.909 --> 00:57:04.969 a futuristic dystopian future I love that sort 00:57:04.969 --> 00:57:08.590 of stuff there's nothing about that film that's 00:57:08.590 --> 00:57:10.730 made me go, yeah, I'd like to watch that again 00:57:10.730 --> 00:57:13.829 soon. Or, oh, maybe next year I'll put it on 00:57:13.829 --> 00:57:20.159 again. Nothing at all. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, agree. 00:57:21.099 --> 00:57:25.559 It's okay. Something I did like, I liked all 00:57:25.559 --> 00:57:27.980 the wide shots where you'd see things happening 00:57:27.980 --> 00:57:31.340 on either side of the big pit. like when he shoots 00:57:31.340 --> 00:57:34.440 the incendiary shot across when they're shooting 00:57:34.440 --> 00:57:37.300 the machine guns there are so many wonderful 00:57:37.300 --> 00:57:40.699 scenes in it and this it feels unfair with what 00:57:40.699 --> 00:57:42.920 i've said so far because it sounds like i'm just 00:57:42.920 --> 00:57:47.000 slamming i'm not the film itself has some fantastic 00:57:47.000 --> 00:57:50.440 moments in it and some brilliant set design and 00:57:50.440 --> 00:57:54.389 some really really brilliantly thought out things 00:57:54.389 --> 00:57:56.570 that they've taken either from the comic from 00:57:56.570 --> 00:57:59.230 the films and the ideas and they put it on screen 00:57:59.230 --> 00:58:02.269 perfectly like you say the incendiary shots um 00:58:02.269 --> 00:58:06.449 the minigun scene where they just destroy the 00:58:06.449 --> 00:58:09.530 side of the building the entire building design 00:58:09.530 --> 00:58:11.809 and everybody's apartments and all the thoughts 00:58:11.809 --> 00:58:14.170 that have been put into it and the even down 00:58:14.170 --> 00:58:16.010 things like the medical bay and their thoughts 00:58:16.010 --> 00:58:17.570 that yeah well they'd have a hospital in each 00:58:17.570 --> 00:58:19.690 of these buildings basically wouldn't you because 00:58:19.690 --> 00:58:21.489 you've got a city's worth of people here so you'd 00:58:21.489 --> 00:58:23.949 need to have some sort of doctor's surgery in 00:58:23.949 --> 00:58:26.150 there and you've got the shops and all the odds 00:58:26.150 --> 00:58:28.969 and ends and the bloke that's literally dead 00:58:28.969 --> 00:58:31.809 they are at the very beginning they abandon all 00:58:31.809 --> 00:58:33.909 they tell everyone evacuate please there's a 00:58:33.909 --> 00:58:37.349 crime going on evacuate within minutes dred's 00:58:37.349 --> 00:58:39.150 killed this bloke and everyone's already coming 00:58:39.150 --> 00:58:41.030 back in

you've already got the little robot going 00:58:41.030 --> 00:58:43.690 past mopping up the blood and it's just like 00:58:43.980 --> 00:58:46.219 yeah i really like that because it's so shit 00:58:46.219 --> 00:58:49.000 in the future that everyone knows these bad things 00:58:49.000 --> 00:58:51.239 happen and it's no longer a crime scene because 00:58:51.239 --> 00:58:53.460 the judge has dealt with it yeah it just gets 00:58:53.460 --> 00:58:55.280 wiped away by a robot and everyone just like 00:58:55.280 --> 00:58:57.920 oh more just get on with the day yeah things 00:58:57.920 --> 00:59:00.340 like that there are some really brilliant clever 00:59:00.340 --> 00:59:06.309 well thought out things in it yeah i mean what 00:59:06.309 --> 00:59:12.079 overall what are you thinking you definitely 00:59:12.079 --> 00:59:14.940 liked it definitely hated it recommend people 00:59:14.940 --> 00:59:18.880 watch it you can't i'm gonna when it comes to 00:59:18.880 --> 00:59:20.300 the stars that we raise it it's going to be a 00:59:20.300 --> 00:59:23.800 three i don't hate it spoilers for people who 00:59:23.800 --> 00:59:25.420 should be going to the website oh yeah but i 00:59:25.420 --> 00:59:28.980 just i just don't love it i don't like the silly 00:59:28.980 --> 00:59:31.380 effects that they did in it i get why they did 00:59:31.380 --> 00:59:35.829 it i know it's slow -mo but just not my cup of 00:59:35.829 --> 00:59:38.170 tea which again we've always said isn't it this 00:59:38.170 --> 00:59:40.909 is very subjective our views on anything which 00:59:40.909 --> 00:59:44.900 is why sometimes we disagree what you see is 00:59:44.900 --> 00:59:47.300 not necessarily what i see we're watching the 00:59:47.300 --> 00:59:49.619 same film unless we fucked up really somewhere 00:59:49.619 --> 00:59:51.440 along the way i'm pretty sure we watched the 00:59:51.440 --> 00:59:55.750 same one this time um it's it's very subjective 00:59:55.750 --> 00:59:58.849 i would stick this flat in the middle if you 00:59:58.849 --> 01:00:02.090 like action you like violence you're probably 01:00:02.090 --> 01:00:05.849 going to enjoy large parts of this but if you're 01:00:05.849 --> 01:00:07.510 looking for something a little bit more cerebral 01:00:07.510 --> 01:00:13.039 a little bit more involving you're not going 01:00:13.039 --> 01:00:15.110 to get it from this Or if you're looking for 01:00:15.110 --> 01:00:18.699 any sort of character development, you're not 01:00:18.699 --> 01:00:20.760 going to get it from this. Yeah, I'm not watching 01:00:20.760 --> 01:00:23.300 a film about Judge Dredd for character development 01:00:23.300 --> 01:00:25.699 or anything. I am watching it because I want 01:00:25.699 --> 01:00:31.260 to see him pass judgment. And I would say I don't 01:00:31.260 --> 01:00:34.579 particularly like slow motion stuff. It worked 01:00:34.579 --> 01:00:37.300 in The Matrix. The Matrix did it. Well, they 01:00:37.300 --> 01:00:39.420 did it. And

it was great. And it works in Max 01:00:39.420 --> 01:00:43.119 Payne, the games. Other stuff, I've never really 01:00:43.119 --> 01:00:46.639 thought I've ever got it right. No, there's never. 01:00:47.119 --> 01:00:49.599 Yeah, and this one, I didn't like it in this. 01:00:49.639 --> 01:00:52.280 I didn't like the slow -mo stuff. Like you said, 01:00:52.780 --> 01:00:55.239 you show us it. At the beginning bit in the car 01:00:55.239 --> 01:00:58.000 where the guy's doing it, fine. I mean, I felt 01:00:58.000 --> 01:01:01.719 like it went on a bit too long. That's my point. 01:01:01.900 --> 01:01:05.280 But that's enough to show you. Or maybe they 01:01:05.280 --> 01:01:07.380 can do it again when they throw the people off 01:01:07.380 --> 01:01:09.320 and show you they're experiencing the falling 01:01:09.320 --> 01:01:11.460 really slow. But I think from that point on, 01:01:11.519 --> 01:01:13.570 when you see someone take it, you know. Yeah. 01:01:13.769 --> 01:01:16.050 You don't need any more. As I said, I think it 01:01:16.050 --> 01:01:18.590 was purely used for an excuse for that massacre 01:01:18.590 --> 01:01:22.110 scene where you see them all erupt in various 01:01:22.110 --> 01:01:25.650 bullet holes. I think that was absolutely, we're 01:01:25.650 --> 01:01:28.150 going to do more of it because we can do this 01:01:28.150 --> 01:01:30.250 with it. I don't think there was any other reason 01:01:30.250 --> 01:01:32.369 but that. It's an hour and a half, an hour and 01:01:32.369 --> 01:01:35.369 35. Good amount of time. Rare occurrence for 01:01:35.369 --> 01:01:38.010 us. It's kind of like, aside from Lord of the 01:01:38.010 --> 01:01:39.750 Rings, which I wish each episode was 10 hours 01:01:39.750 --> 01:01:44.300 long, each film. That is like, for me, that's 01:01:44.300 --> 01:01:47.480 the golden slot for a film. An hour and a half. 01:01:47.719 --> 01:01:52.619 Yeah. Two hours can be bum -numbing. An hour 01:01:52.619 --> 01:01:55.159 or an hour and 15 just isn't quite enough to 01:01:55.159 --> 01:01:57.940 get everything through. An hour and a half. Hour 01:01:57.940 --> 01:02:01.199 and 45. Yeah, hour and 30, hour and 40. You get 01:02:01.199 --> 01:02:03.400 a lot of stuff happening there. You get enough 01:02:03.400 --> 01:02:06.400 exposition without feeling rushed, without feeling 01:02:06.400 --> 01:02:10.420 overdone. It's just that sweet golden spot. I 01:02:10.420 --> 01:02:13.800 know I agree with you. Going back to things we 01:02:13.800 --> 01:02:17.360 love, I love the fact that they toned the uniform 01:02:17.360 --> 01:02:20.119 down a bit. It's weird. From what I remember 01:02:20.119 --> 01:02:24.179 of the comics, the 90s one probably got the uniforms 01:02:24.179 --> 01:02:29.599 more accurate. Well, it... was they probably 01:02:29.599 --> 01:02:32.500 a lot of times now they do have like experts 01:02:32.500 --> 01:02:36.099 come on and be like you can't move yeah you want 01:02:36.099 --> 01:02:39.440

to you want to see this guy actually be it still 01:02:39.440 --> 01:02:43.449 did seem a bit odd you know because it's trying 01:02:43.449 --> 01:02:46.050 to get the look but also you wouldn't think they 01:02:46.050 --> 01:02:48.239 would actually look like that no helmet's ridiculous 01:02:48.239 --> 01:02:50.739 the helmet's ridiculous i felt the body armor 01:02:50.739 --> 01:02:52.800 looked pretty good again they're trying to keep 01:02:52.800 --> 01:02:55.159 it in fashion with the comic and actually i think 01:02:55.159 --> 01:02:57.199 they did a really good job as much as i like 01:02:57.199 --> 01:02:59.179 the 90s film i like that the fact they really 01:02:59.179 --> 01:03:01.820 stayed comic so it looks that over top and somehow 01:03:01.820 --> 01:03:04.800 make it work uh i know a lot of people will disagree 01:03:04.800 --> 01:03:11.039 with me on that um but i am the law um they did 01:03:11.039 --> 01:03:14.800 a really good job i think with settling making 01:03:14.800 --> 01:03:18.159 the uniform that bit more subtle and just kind 01:03:18.159 --> 01:03:22.739 of worked in the modern film. I still, just full 01:03:22.739 --> 01:03:25.460 stop, the judge's gun is still one of my favourite 01:03:25.460 --> 01:03:30.360 guns from all sort of sci -fi. This brilliant 01:03:30.360 --> 01:03:33.559 looking gun always reminded me of the, or at 01:03:33.559 --> 01:03:37.199 least the 90s film one, reminded me of the Predator 01:03:37.199 --> 01:03:39.960 gun from the original PlayStation, third party 01:03:39.960 --> 01:03:44.079 gun called the Predator. Right. um i'll bring 01:03:44.079 --> 01:03:46.659 up a picture of it while we're talking but um 01:03:46.659 --> 01:03:50.679 i just loved the idea that it was programmable 01:03:50.679 --> 01:03:53.000 ammunition so you had your clip and you could 01:03:53.000 --> 01:03:55.199 say right this is the ammunition that's the only 01:03:55.199 --> 01:03:58.000 thing that again comic books you get away with 01:03:58.000 --> 01:04:02.079 it tiny little mag and he's got all this different 01:04:02.079 --> 01:04:04.260 type of ammo type if it was programmable ammo 01:04:04.260 --> 01:04:08.880 why has he got none of this but four of this 01:04:08.880 --> 01:04:11.199 left for example if it was programmed with ammo 01:04:11.199 --> 01:04:13.659 surely it's just like you've got 10 bullets you 01:04:13.659 --> 01:04:17.440 do whatever you want with them so that's always 01:04:17.440 --> 01:04:21.940 in the back of my head it's just not a great 01:04:21.940 --> 01:04:25.619 kind of design but that's just that that's how 01:04:25.619 --> 01:04:29.179 the the comic was it looks good and that's kind 01:04:29.179 --> 01:04:31.739 of all i kind of cared about there uh right hand 01:04:31.739 --> 01:04:33.400 here we go that's what the predator gun looked 01:04:33.400 --> 01:04:35.869 like Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. It was 01:04:35.869 --> 01:04:37.889 one of the most popular third party ones.

And 01:04:37.889 --> 01:04:40.010 I'm pretty sure that looks very much like the... 01:04:40.010 --> 01:04:43.599 The time crisis gun. Oh, so you're thinking about 01:04:43.599 --> 01:04:45.880 the G -Con. Yeah, this was similar to the G -Con, 01:04:45.960 --> 01:04:48.340 but slightly different. But I think it looked 01:04:48.340 --> 01:04:52.840 quite like the original Judge Dredd gun from 01:04:52.840 --> 01:04:57.369 the film anyway. Yeah, that's it really. I mean, 01:04:57.389 --> 01:04:59.909 as I say, I wouldn't say I loved it. I wouldn't 01:04:59.909 --> 01:05:02.989 say I hated it. It's one of those difficult films 01:05:02.989 --> 01:05:09.139 that I... Where do you go with it? I guess. Do 01:05:09.139 --> 01:05:12.199 you say definitely watch it or don't you? There 01:05:12.199 --> 01:05:14.159 you go. That's the gun from the 90s, Judge Dredd. 01:05:14.199 --> 01:05:16.519 Oh, it's the same. It probably is the same gun. 01:05:17.059 --> 01:05:19.860 It looks very similar, doesn't it? Yeah, it's 01:05:19.860 --> 01:05:21.900 almost like they just took one and then built 01:05:21.900 --> 01:05:25.710 on it. Do you think they'll make another one? 01:05:26.090 --> 01:05:28.289 Carl Oben's still a reasonable enough age to 01:05:28.289 --> 01:05:31.420 do it. Carl Oben wants to. He's wanted to. There 01:05:31.420 --> 01:05:35.239 you go. That's the 90s version. So good. Codpiece 01:05:35.239 --> 01:05:38.780 as well. I think he was talking about it recently, 01:05:39.039 --> 01:05:44.380 actually. Curl Up and Dread 2. Let's see if that... 01:05:44.380 --> 01:05:49.369 I think he could do another one. I'd like him 01:05:49.369 --> 01:05:52.389 to. I would really like him to see what they 01:05:52.389 --> 01:05:57.010 do with it. I just don't know if they would. 01:05:57.150 --> 01:05:58.769 It could be him coming up to retirement or something. 01:05:59.300 --> 01:06:05.230 Like Logan, but dread. Yeah, I mean, press pause 01:06:05.230 --> 01:06:08.590 for a moment. Let me quickly... Right, sorry 01:06:08.590 --> 01:06:16.329 about that. Right, so Urban is keen to, but there's 01:06:16.329 --> 01:06:19.550 his latest interview he had at Mortal Kombat 01:06:19.550 --> 01:06:22.909 2 was he is not currently involved with the new 01:06:22.909 --> 01:06:27.409 project at this time. The new project being Taika 01:06:27.570 --> 01:06:33.420 Waititi. Oh. Okay. Doing dread. And Mission Impossible 01:06:33.420 --> 01:06:36.340 Rogue Nation writer Drew Pearce are developing 01:06:36.340 --> 01:06:38.539 a new reboot featuring the comic book's world 01:06:38.539 --> 01:06:40.900 favourite judge, jury and executioner. What I 01:06:40.900 --> 01:06:42.500 didn't realise as well written in that article 01:06:42.500 --> 01:06:44.860 was this film didn't make back its 50 million 01:06:44.860 --> 01:06:48.940 budget. The thing about Tiger White, I haven't 01:06:48.940 --> 01:06:50.760 got an issue with any of his stuff, but there's 01:06:50.760 --> 01:06:52.789

an element of comedy in all of his stuff. Because 01:06:52.789 --> 01:06:54.690 he's a funny guy. Which goes back to the original 01:06:54.690 --> 01:06:57.309 90s Dread. The original 90s Dread was cheesy 01:06:57.309 --> 01:07:00.429 comedy action. Yeah. Kind of thrown together 01:07:00.429 --> 01:07:04.010 for the... I don't know if I want that. That's 01:07:04.010 --> 01:07:05.590 what I worry is what you're going to get with 01:07:05.590 --> 01:07:07.829 Taika Waititi on this. Yeah, I don't think I 01:07:07.829 --> 01:07:10.650 want that. Maybe you might not do that. It works 01:07:10.650 --> 01:07:12.630 for Thor. I don't think it's going to work for 01:07:12.630 --> 01:07:16.639 Judge Dread. There's a lot of people that would 01:07:16.639 --> 01:07:19.460 say it didn't work with Thor. Yeah, well... I 01:07:19.460 --> 01:07:22.460 enjoyed it. I'm not going to lie. I really enjoyed 01:07:22.460 --> 01:07:25.789 it. I loved the over -the -top glam rock shit 01:07:25.789 --> 01:07:31.469 that they pulled out there and there. But seeing... 01:07:31.469 --> 01:07:33.989 Again, it's really hard because it puts me in 01:07:33.989 --> 01:07:36.250 a position. I've given it three out of five, 01:07:36.429 --> 01:07:39.780 but I wouldn't want to see it remade, a reboot 01:07:39.780 --> 01:07:44.070 yet again, heading into kind of light comedy 01:07:44.070 --> 01:07:48.130 action... I'd want to see it in exactly the same 01:07:48.130 --> 01:07:52.949 style as this one was, but with some development 01:07:52.949 --> 01:07:55.469 of some sort. You just want this but more. Yeah. 01:07:55.610 --> 01:07:59.849 This but more. I want continuation. I want dread 01:08:00.139 --> 01:08:04.340 day two. Yeah, the next day. Yeah. Yeah, the 01:08:04.340 --> 01:08:09.039 hangover. Exactly. I want to see that the first 01:08:09.039 --> 01:08:14.860 film affected him, and then we get this film 01:08:15.369 --> 01:08:18.979 about that. Yeah. Because again, that's kind 01:08:18.979 --> 01:08:21.300 of what you get in the original, not that I haven't 01:08:21.300 --> 01:08:23.699 watched the original 90s Judge Dredd for ages, 01:08:23.800 --> 01:08:26.680 but the idea that he's been let down by the judges 01:08:26.680 --> 01:08:29.500 and then has to prove himself and prove that 01:08:29.500 --> 01:08:32.300 the judges are actually still, that they are 01:08:32.300 --> 01:08:37.060 fallible, but just all, that's kind of what I 01:08:37.060 --> 01:08:38.939 want from this. I want him to then go, well, 01:08:39.039 --> 01:08:42.880 actually, there were bad judges out there. And 01:08:42.880 --> 01:08:45.000 then this be this kind of development of the 01:08:45.000 --> 01:08:47.340 storyline of... Who judges the judges. Who do 01:08:47.340 --> 01:08:52.380 I need? Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Right. That's that. 01:08:52.380 --> 01:09:01.939 That's it, I think. Transfer complete. Okay. 01:09:02.060 --> 01:09:05.119 Spin that wheel. Let's watch it pick another 01:09:05.119 --> 01:09:15.520 film that we've already watched. Red. It's one 01:09:15.520 --> 01:09:19.880 we haven't watched. Fuck me. It nearly... So, 01:09:19.960 --> 01:09:22.359 just to let you know, it nearly landed on... 01:09:22.579 --> 01:09:25.140 Flash Gordon, which we have watched. Which we 01:09:25.140 --> 01:09:27.300 have done. That was before The Will, though, 01:09:27.319 --> 01:09:31.159 wasn't it? That was pre -Will. And Return of 01:09:31.159 --> 01:09:35.229 the... What would that be? Return of the... It 01:09:35.229 --> 01:09:37.609 wouldn't be The King. Jedi. Return of the Jedi. 01:09:37.729 --> 01:09:39.630 Oh, it was probably Return of the Jedi, yes. 01:09:40.010 --> 01:09:41.850 Yeah. Well, it's landed right in the middle. 01:09:42.550 --> 01:09:47.289 What's between those two? It is a Star Wars film. 01:09:48.199 --> 01:09:55.850 Okay. It is Rogue One. Oh, I have seen Rogue 01:09:55.850 --> 01:09:58.409 One. Yeah, I like Rogue One. I think Rogue One's 01:09:58.409 --> 01:10:01.470 one of the best Star Wars films to date. Oh, 01:10:01.569 --> 01:10:05.510 this is good. Yes. Basically, it's the pre -story 01:10:05.510 --> 01:10:09.859 to how Leia ends up with the plans. Yes. In effect, 01:10:10.060 --> 01:10:12.140 isn't it? That's what this one... And it's the 01:10:12.140 --> 01:10:17.939 ending to the series that they do on Disney Plus 01:10:17.939 --> 01:10:21.460 at the moment. Oh, is it? They do, because the 01:10:21.460 --> 01:10:25.579 bloke character. Isn't it? I don't know. I've 01:10:25.579 --> 01:10:26.939 not kept track of any. Do you even know what 01:10:26.939 --> 01:10:29.100 series I'm talking about? I know that there's 01:10:29.100 --> 01:10:31.079 so, like Marvel, I just don't keep track of any 01:10:31.079 --> 01:10:33.819 of it anymore. Let me just bring it up on here. 01:10:35.060 --> 01:10:37.960 Andor. So the series, two seasons of Andor, they're 01:10:37.960 --> 01:10:42.420 prequels to Rogue One. Oh. They have to be, obviously, 01:10:42.439 --> 01:10:44.060 don't they, because of the ending to Rogue One. 01:10:44.220 --> 01:10:47.100 That guy. What happens to him? This is Rogue 01:10:47.100 --> 01:10:50.420 One, a Star Wars story, 2016, starring Felicity 01:10:50.420 --> 01:10:56.000 Jones. And our favourite, Alan Tudyk. Oh, yeah, 01:10:56.039 --> 01:10:57.619 we love him. He just turns up in it. He plays 01:10:57.619 --> 01:11:01.359 a robot. Yeah, he... The best robot. Yeah. Okay, 01:11:01.420 --> 01:11:03.279 wicked. Yeah, I'm happy with that because everyone, 01:11:03.659 --> 01:11:06.140 you can watch on Disney+. Yeah, Disney+. It's... 01:11:06.140 --> 01:11:07.779 Probably the only place you can watch it, I imagine, 01:11:07.819 --> 01:11:11.739 unless you own it. I'd imagine so. We can hear 01:11:11.739 --> 01:11:13.180 this. I'm just going to start watching it now. 01:11:13.340 --> 01:11:19.560 Okay. Okay, next. Command functions are offline. 01:11:21.000 --> 01:11:23.239 Well, that's that then. I think

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