Shift Stirrers – Rosemary & Michelle Out and about – Vivian Westwood ၏ စာသားမှတ်တမ်းအပြည့်အစုံ

actually quite long. 00:04:59.600 --> 00:05:02.560 You could you wouldn't want to run in it, but it was quite long. 00:05:02.720 --> 00:05:04.000 I loved the shirt. 00:05:04.240 --> 00:05:05.759 I really loved the shirt. 00:05:05.839 --> 00:05:12.879 I loved the juxtaposition between the tartan and the bold blocking of the colours in the shirt. 00:05:13.040 --> 00:05:19.519 The parachute harness, I don't know what statement she was trying to make with that, uh, but it did make it different. 00:05:19.680 --> 00:05:27.199 It did it did show a breakout from the conservative conservatism of the time. 00:05:27.519 --> 00:05:29.360 And especially when you think this is a man's outfit. 00:05:29.439 --> 00:05:31.360 It wasn't a woman's outfit, it was a man's outfit. 00:05:31.519 --> 00:05:37.120 The tartans to me, tartans and tweeds, whenever I think of Vivian Westwood, I think of tartans and tweeds. 00:05:37.519 --> 00:05:41.360 So I I actually really, really enjoyed the piece. 00:05:41.439 --> 00:05:48.720 And I will mention that you can't see it in the photo that we've shown you, but the curator had made hats. 00:05:49.199 --> 00:05:51.120 This one was like a mohawk. 00:05:53.839 --> 00:05:57.759 Yeah, very, very interesting, very, very interesting outfit. 00:05:57.839 --> 00:06:02.480 And the the curator's work on all the headpieces, I think, tied the exhibition together. 00:06:02.639 --> 00:06:13.759 So, yeah, I felt uneasy at first looking at it, and then I felt with all that restraint, constraint, I think it was sort of trying to show a freedom, a new way of being. 00:06:15.040 --> 00:06:15.680 Yeah. 00:06:16.319 --> 00:06:18.639 And disclaimer, we don't know anything. 00:06:18.800 --> 00:06:20.160 Right, next one. 00:06:20.959 --> 00:06:23.439 We do know stuff, Rosemary. 00:06:23.680 --> 00:06:24.639 I don't know you. 00:06:24.720 --> 00:06:35.759 I researched onto her and I looked to Yeah, I'm just looking at it from an artist's view that you actually have fashion, you've got a fashion certificate, haven't you? 00:06:36.079 --> 00:06:38.959 Yes, I have a by an arts and fashion degree. 00:06:39.279 --> 00:06:40.240 Right, next. 00:06:40.480 --> 00:06:43.839 So, Rosemary, you go ahead because you've got the critique notes. 00:06:44.079 --> 00:06:44.399 What? 00:06:44.560 --> 00:06:46.319 Well, I wrote my notes. 00:06:46.399 --> 00:06:54.720 I just love this piece because it felt like perhaps colonial out in the Australian Outback, but it was sort of cheeky. 00:06:54.959 --> 00:07:00.639 And um, it could be for female, male, or binary, non-binary. 00:07:00.720 --> 00:07:09.600 Yeah, loved I love the fabric which Michelle will describe, and I felt it was a dapper outfit and yeah, it could be unisex. 00:07:09.759 --> 00:07:11.439 What do you want to add to that? 00:07:11.759 --> 00:07:16.959 Well, to me, that this these these pants, I think they definitely were made for a gentleman. 00:07:17.120 --> 00:07:29.680 And it's it was the start of her moving away from her rebellion against the establishment to actually fitting in with the establishment and moving in a totally different direction. 00:07:29.759 --> 00:07:33.120 So I I just an aside, Vivian Westwood is a woman. 00:07:33.199 --> 00:07:36.319 I the more I've read about her, the more I think I'd have loved to meet her. 00:07:36.480 --> 00:07:38.319 She was a force of nature. 00:07:38.560 --> 00:07:40.480 And we will go into that a bit later. 00:07:40.639 --> 00:07:49.360 But she just she was a civil rights activist, she was uh very involved in climate change, she campaigned for nuclear disarmament. 00:07:49.519 --> 00:08:15.120 But she actually um she started out working in an area which was against the establishment, but her clothes became so expensive that people within the establishment were buying them, and this is this is tarps back to the Regency area, and again a classic use of stripes and checks, which she, as I said, all her work, even her ball gowns had checks in them. 00:08:15.279 --> 00:08:27.120 There's that restraint too with that leather thing around the neck, which I could not even when we're there, I sort of like the braces where where he's got the braces, they still look like a form of confinement to me. 00:08:27.279 --> 00:08:32.399 That same sort of confinement that the the parachute the parachute thing had, you know. 00:08:32.879 --> 00:08:34.799 You see where I'm coming from, Rosemary? 00:08:35.039 --> 00:08:37.840 Yeah, they they're beautiful actually, beautiful leather. 00:08:38.159 --> 00:08:43.279 They are, but there's that like still that parachute type restraint that was in the last one. 00:08:44.320 --> 00:09:00.720 The fact that it's a male costume and the shirt is designed to be worn off the shoulder, pants very high, the actual piece at the front to me has that look of a cod piece, which was in the Tudor times when the men wore the big cod pieces. 00:09:00.879 --> 00:09:02.960 So I I found it fascinating. 00:09:03.279 --> 00:09:11.679 And just pink on a man in the 70s was something that I think was not very well known. 00:09:11.919 --> 00:09:13.039 So yeah. 00:09:13.360 --> 00:09:16.000 But uh what are you what are you saying? 00:09:16.159 --> 00:09:18.960 Is it described as a male design for a male? 00:09:19.120 --> 00:09:20.639 Because I don't think it really was. 00:09:20.960 --> 00:09:25.039 I definitely thought it was designed for a male because next to it was the female. 00:09:25.279 --> 00:09:27.279 That's so she had the male female. 00:09:27.519 --> 00:09:33.360 And the the female costume had that very ethnic beautiful colours. 00:09:33.600 --> 00:09:33.919 Yeah. 00:09:34.080 --> 00:09:35.519 Uh what am I thinking like? 00:09:35.600 --> 00:09:39.360 I'm thinking of folk costumes from the Russian region. 00:09:40.320 --> 00:09:43.440 Yeah, very, very beautiful, beautiful fabrics, actually. 00:09:43.519 --> 00:09:44.720 The fabrics we just looked at. 00:09:44.879 --> 00:09:55.519 All her fabrics

are beautiful and the top hat that is that the model has been on dress for dinner. 00:09:55.840 --> 00:10:03.679 The top hat to me is also moving towards that that male image of this, because the female one had a crown on it. 00:10:03.919 --> 00:10:09.679 Yeah, but I think with the off-the-shoulder, it would be absolutely stunning on a female or non-binary. 00:10:10.080 --> 00:10:12.320 Yeah, I yeah, but that's now. 00:10:12.960 --> 00:10:14.320 That's now, right? 00:10:14.480 --> 00:10:19.919 So we're talking back in 19, I think this was late 70s, early 80s. 00:10:20.879 --> 00:10:24.000 It would definitely have been considered a costume for him. 00:10:24.080 --> 00:10:25.919 And even actually, okay, how's this? 00:10:26.240 --> 00:10:41.279 The buttoning is a man's buttoning, and the the fly is a man's fly, because buttoning for a woman, a blouse for a woman is the right side is on top, and a blouse and a shirt for a man, the left side is on top, buttoning is a man's buttoning. 00:10:41.360 --> 00:10:41.840 So there we go. 00:10:42.080 --> 00:10:44.480 Well, I still think it'd be beautiful on a woman. 00:10:44.639 --> 00:10:50.080 There's a scene in Bridesmaids where they're fighting and they just they can't agree and they just keep going. 00:10:50.240 --> 00:10:54.000 So I'll finish this segment with I still think it'd be beautiful on a woman. 00:10:54.320 --> 00:10:54.559 Okay. 00:10:55.039 --> 00:10:55.360 Right. 00:10:56.320 --> 00:10:57.440 Next rate. 00:10:58.879 --> 00:11:00.639 The beautiful ball gown. 00:11:00.799 --> 00:11:01.759 Is that the one you've got? 00:11:02.080 --> 00:11:03.120 The pink mushroom. 00:11:03.440 --> 00:11:03.840 Yes. 00:11:04.240 --> 00:11:07.679 I can't find it to refer to, but yes, I loved it. 00:11:08.240 --> 00:11:09.679 You can go first this time. 00:11:10.879 --> 00:11:11.600 You're gonna be a little bit more. 00:11:11.759 --> 00:11:14.639 Well, would you think it's definitely for a male, this one? 00:11:14.960 --> 00:11:16.559 No, I think this one's for a lady. 00:11:16.799 --> 00:11:25.919 Vivian moved much more into the establishment era and she actually became known for her beautiful, beautiful ball gowns. 00:11:26.240 --> 00:11:30.000 Many famous people wore her beautiful, beautiful ball gowns. 00:11:30.240 --> 00:11:32.080 This one is stunning. 00:11:32.399 --> 00:11:33.759 It's absolutely stunning. 00:11:33.919 --> 00:11:37.840 I'm actually putting the picture up a bit longer on this one because it's so beautiful. 00:11:38.080 --> 00:11:40.000 It's I don't, it was a mushroom. 00:11:40.559 --> 00:11:48.000 When you actually saw it in real life, the gown was very mushroom coloured, but the background that the gown is against is red. 00:11:48.159 --> 00:11:51.679 So it sort of comes up this blush pink mushroom, doesn't it? 00:11:51.840 --> 00:11:55.519 It's it's it's very, very scrumptious. 00:11:55.759 --> 00:11:57.279 Is that a word scrumptio? 00:11:57.519 --> 00:11:57.759 Yes. 00:11:58.720 --> 00:12:00.639 She's been lost on a white background. 00:12:01.279 --> 00:12:03.440 It would have been, or even a black background. 00:12:03.679 --> 00:12:08.799 Again, to me, she's this is where she's starting to go into her corsetry era. 00:12:08.960 --> 00:12:15.759 And I'm gonna show some photos out of the book here, too, because she did beautiful, she did the tartan ball gown. 00:12:15.919 --> 00:12:22.080 She did amazing, amazing ball gowns, and very well known people have worn Vivian Westwood gowns. 00:12:22.240 --> 00:12:27.840 But the corsetry here, it's done like a binding, it's like a black binding that's pulling it in. 00:12:28.240 --> 00:12:34.799 Do you think it's a statement, Michelle, where it's almost like being tied up in a way? 00:12:35.039 --> 00:12:35.759 Yeah, it is. 00:12:36.080 --> 00:12:38.480 I saw that a lot in all her work. 00:12:38.559 --> 00:12:55.440 There's a photo I'm gonna show here where it's two photos where the the front of she's got a woman dressed with angel wings on, and the front of the woman is beautiful, sexy woman, and the back of the woman she's got these angels' wings, but she's also got a hands bound behind her back. 00:12:55.759 --> 00:13:01.919 So it was obviously a statement that she made in a lot of things that she did that that we were confined. 00:13:02.000 --> 00:13:08.960 I I do believe, and this is my view, that she seemed to make a statement about people being confined. 00:13:09.200 --> 00:13:09.600 Yeah. 00:13:10.159 --> 00:13:14.240 Which definitely parts definitely into my world. 00:13:15.039 --> 00:13:21.600 The gown is made of silk taffeta, uh, and it was in a room, we could have picked 10, we could have picked 20 gowns. 00:13:21.919 --> 00:13:24.159 They were all stunning and all beautiful. 00:13:24.240 --> 00:13:24.399 Yes. 00:13:24.639 --> 00:13:26.240 But this one appealed to both of us. 00:13:26.480 --> 00:13:28.080 What were your comments on it, Rosemary? 00:13:28.399 --> 00:13:32.480 Yes, I've given my comments, which were not many, but yes, about being confined. 00:13:32.639 --> 00:13:43.039 The use way around the um ribbon around the sleeves looks like it's just been done at the last moment, and it's beautiful and it's creative. 00:13:43.840 --> 00:13:50.080 And that's what I think is the beauty of her work is that things do look like they've just been done. 00:13:50.480 --> 00:14:00.960 But the amount of thought and and effort, and if you actually like, because we could get quite close to it, it was definitely it was done, it was mindfully done. 00:14:01.120 --> 00:14:01.279 Yeah. 00:14:01.519 --> 00:14:03.440 So yeah, it's just yeah, stunning. 00:14:04.000 --> 00:14:10.720 Now, also, Michelle, you had on these um questions that you set up for us, and we walked around with little clipboards. 00:14:10.799 --> 00:14:14.000 No, you walked around with your iPad because you I didn't. 00:14:14.159 --> 00:14:14.480 Yeah. 00:14:14.720 --> 00:14:17.759 There was one sentence that said,

for your own practice. 00:14:18.000 --> 00:14:24.080 So for me, it was taking something old and reworking it for modern days, you did with that dress. 00:14:24.320 --> 00:14:33.519 And so for me, I often think when I write my books of well, in in the latest books about the ancient Greeks and what they knew, and then bringing that back. 00:14:33.679 --> 00:14:37.519 And so I think I'm going to take that for my own practice and keep doing it. 00:14:37.679 --> 00:14:44.080 What we would what we learnt from the old days and reworking it to what are we doing today. 00:14:44.720 --> 00:14:44.960 Yeah. 00:14:45.279 --> 00:14:45.440 Right. 00:14:45.679 --> 00:14:46.720 Anything more on that? 00:14:46.960 --> 00:14:58.480 Uh in the same room as this, they had a a wall of an all I can explain it was it was like pulsating reds, which actually to me look like heart. 00:14:58.559 --> 00:14:59.919 I don't know what it looked like to you, Rosemary. 00:15:00.159 --> 00:15:01.600 It sort of looked like heartbeats. 00:15:04.080 --> 00:15:11.600 I actually didn't know what the purpose of it was, but it sort of broke up the change, you know, from going from one dress to another. 00:15:11.679 --> 00:15:15.200 Um, it sort of changed the way you were looking at things. 00:15:15.440 --> 00:15:18.879 It sort of it felt like a river of fabric. 00:15:19.200 --> 00:15:20.480 Like it's pulsating. 00:15:20.559 --> 00:15:22.480 It could have been a river of blood, I don't know. 00:15:22.559 --> 00:15:30.399 But it was definitely, you know, the red of the room, it was like actually in because red is a colour that brings out passion, right? 00:15:30.480 --> 00:15:35.200 It's known for its bringing out passion and it's often associated with passion. 00:15:35.360 --> 00:15:39.600 And it brought out a voluptuousness in the dresses. 00:15:39.759 --> 00:15:40.559 There we are. 00:15:40.799 --> 00:15:41.919 Yep, great. 00:15:42.159 --> 00:15:43.519 Okay, suits. 00:15:43.840 --> 00:15:47.759 Now, this is Vivian Vivian was known for her suits. 00:15:47.840 --> 00:15:51.759 People like Madonna were known for wearing Vivian Westwood suits. 00:15:51.919 --> 00:15:57.200 She uh she made what I call the power suit look powerful. 00:15:58.320 --> 00:16:00.799 Rosemie and I chose different things here. 00:16:00.879 --> 00:16:03.600 So, Roseme, would you like to talk about what you chose? 00:16:03.840 --> 00:16:05.200 I've got a picture of it here. 00:16:05.440 --> 00:16:06.799 Yes, with mine. 00:16:07.120 --> 00:16:21.200 Well, I do love a little velvet collar, which was from my childhood in the 60s, but um what I liked about this was the sections, so one-third, two-thirds of the red with the leopard skin. 00:16:21.279 --> 00:16:23.440 And it just looks complete, this outfit. 00:16:23.519 --> 00:16:28.240 I love the black velvet and the way the little pocket sits on the side. 00:16:28.399 --> 00:16:29.919 All the proportions I like. 00:16:30.080 --> 00:16:34.559 Someone else might not, but the

length of the jacket and then the length of the the shirt. 00:16:34.799 --> 00:16:36.159 What have I written about buttons? 00:16:36.240 --> 00:16:37.679 Is there buttons on there, Michelle? 00:16:37.919 --> 00:16:38.799 Yeah, there is. 00:16:38.960 --> 00:16:42.000 The buttons like are hidden in the leopard print side. 00:16:42.240 --> 00:16:43.039 That's what I wrote. 00:16:43.200 --> 00:16:44.080 Okay, great. 00:16:44.240 --> 00:16:55.200 Um yeah, so I actually the collar is quite big, so that would be probably the only thing that I think doesn't quite match my shape, little default. 00:16:55.440 --> 00:16:56.080 Yeah. 00:16:56.240 --> 00:16:58.720 Um otherwise, beautiful. 00:16:59.039 --> 00:17:00.399 I was so 80s. 00:17:00.960 --> 00:17:01.679 Come on. 00:17:01.919 --> 00:17:04.559 Don't you remember Dallas and the suits in Dallas? 00:17:04.799 --> 00:17:05.119 I don't know. 00:17:05.759 --> 00:17:06.960 I didn't see this in Dallas. 00:17:07.200 --> 00:17:09.200 You know, do you remember the TV series? 00:17:09.440 --> 00:17:10.559 I don't think I watched it. 00:17:10.720 --> 00:17:15.039 Oh, I didn't watch it, but uh, it was all over the television, so you'd see it. 00:17:15.119 --> 00:17:18.720 And the power suits and the power dressing and the the power women. 00:17:18.880 --> 00:17:26.240 And that's the I chose this one, and it was it was sex on wheels, powerhouse dressing. 00:17:26.400 --> 00:17:27.359 I love this suit. 00:17:27.440 --> 00:17:39.920 It to me speaks of the Vivian Westwood who embraced that era just like she in a totally different way, but just like she embraced the punk rock era. 00:17:40.079 --> 00:17:43.759 She shouted it out loud that this was the suit that she created for this era. 00:17:44.000 --> 00:17:44.480 Yeah, guys. 00:17:45.359 --> 00:17:48.000 Get corporate jumps so we can wear suits. 00:17:49.119 --> 00:17:56.720 Oh no, well, yeah, you well, I actually wore suits in my corporate job, but I have suits now that have dust growing on the show. 00:17:57.039 --> 00:18:00.559 If I put them on, if I had to go back to work, I don't know what I'd do. 00:18:02.319 --> 00:18:04.240 So that was her work. 00:18:04.400 --> 00:18:10.079 Also, I will mention in this era that um she was becoming very well known for her tweeds. 00:18:10.400 --> 00:18:16.480 And after she passed away, the Harris Tweed Authority released the following statement, which I will read out. 00:18:16.720 --> 00:18:26.799 In the late 80s, Vivian Westwood commenced using use of a logo, which we consider and acknowledge her connections with the industry. 00:18:27.039 --> 00:18:33.279 Subsequently, both brands have successfully collaborated with them to their mutual b benefit. 00:18:33.440 --> 00:18:38.000 We hope and expect that that collaboration will continue for many years to come. 00:18:38.240 --> 00:18:42.880 And it and it was she had a love of checks and tweeds and she did it well. 00:18:43.039 --> 00:18:50.880 She brought them out of out of you know the dowdy into the sexy, and yeah, I think I will always remember her for that. 00:18:51.039 --> 00:18:51.599 So yeah. 00:18:51.920 --> 00:18:52.559 Great. 00:18:53.279 --> 00:18:54.960 All right, next, hang on. 00:18:55.119 --> 00:18:57.119 I'm looking at the photos as I go. 00:18:57.359 --> 00:18:59.359 That was our last one on that, wasn't it? 00:18:59.519 --> 00:19:00.559 Yeah, that's great. 00:19:00.720 --> 00:19:06.880 Yeah, so I just want to talk a little bit about Vivian because she was so many interesting things about her. 00:19:07.119 --> 00:19:14.000 She was an incredible activist, and I do have a website open with her page on, which I'm looking at now. 00:19:14.319 --> 00:19:28.799 But she was known for her her, what did she she was known for her sponsorship of Julian Assage, who uh incarcerated in London for a long time, voluntarily incarcerated in London. 00:19:29.039 --> 00:19:40.960 Um she actually was a part of the conservation movement, and it was something else I read that she was actively against, she was anti-consumerism. 00:19:41.200 --> 00:19:50.960 So she would say things like, I don't feel comfortable defending my clothes, but if you've got money and you can afford them, buy something from me, but don't buy too much. 00:19:51.119 --> 00:19:53.839 Just buy one piece and be happy with that one piece. 00:19:54.079 --> 00:19:55.039 That's great. 00:19:55.440 --> 00:20:02.799 Yeah, she um she actually was uh very much a part of fair distribution of wealth. 00:20:02.960 --> 00:20:06.079 She died in when she was 81 when she died. 00:20:06.240 --> 00:20:08.240 Let me just check my facts here. 00:20:08.480 --> 00:20:10.160 My fact-finding thing. 00:20:10.319 --> 00:20:12.160 Yeah, she was 81 when she died. 00:20:12.319 --> 00:20:21.359 And um, as you can see from these photos, I'm showing you from the book, she uh would ride her bike to uh social events around London. 00:20:21.519 --> 00:20:26.480 She wouldn't catch public transport, she'd just ride a bike to the event and ride a bike home from the event. 00:20:26.720 --> 00:20:32.160 Her son was uh is I should say is Joseph Korr. 00:20:32.240 --> 00:20:35.119 He was the founder of Agent Provocateur. 00:20:35.279 --> 00:20:43.119 So, any ladies listening, that is a beautiful, very sexy brand of lingerie that is extremely well known. 00:20:43.200 --> 00:20:49.519 And yeah, if you can afford to buy that, it's it's just beautiful, beautiful underwear, like handed silk, etc. 00:20:50.000 --> 00:20:53.759 Her granddaughter is a model, as I said before. 00:20:53.920 --> 00:20:57.519 Her second husband was the manager of the band The Sex Pistols. 00:20:57.759 --> 00:20:58.880 Fascinating life. 00:20:59.119 --> 00:21:00.160 Fascinating life. 00:21:00.319 --> 00:21:02.960 I don't think I can I would love to have met her. 00:21:03.119 --> 00:21:08.079 So and Roseme, you're you you'd never been to an exhibition like that before. 00:21:08.319 --> 00:21:09.440 What were your thoughts?

00:21:09.920 --> 00:21:18.640 You know, just on the exhibition, how it went, your experience of never having been to an exhibition like that and coming away from it. 00:21:18.880 --> 00:21:38.319 Well well, I hadn't sought out um something about anything about fashion before because the industry is quite challenging in a lot of ways, which we won't go into on this podcast, but the actual clothes and design, it's an art form of its own, and yeah, it was wonderful to see. 00:21:38.559 --> 00:21:39.359 What about you? 00:21:39.680 --> 00:21:46.559 Well, I felt the same, and especially when I was looking at um the Com de Casson work by Ria Kibulco. 00:21:46.880 --> 00:21:54.559 Her work that we saw throughout the way, you could question where is art, where does art start and where does fashion stop? 00:21:54.720 --> 00:21:59.119 And sometimes look at some of the things that walk along a catwalk. 00:21:59.359 --> 00:22:00.799 I I should works. 00:22:01.200 --> 00:22:03.039 That sounds better than things, doesn't it? 00:22:03.759 --> 00:22:06.720 And and think that they are forms of art. 00:22:07.039 --> 00:22:10.960 There's things they're works that people wouldn't necessarily wear. 00:22:11.200 --> 00:22:11.519 Yeah. 00:22:12.000 --> 00:22:13.119 They are for art. 00:22:13.359 --> 00:22:16.319 I I'm I I think we can discuss it Rosemary. 00:22:16.559 --> 00:22:18.160 I am not a fan of fast fashion. 00:22:18.319 --> 00:22:24.319 I am and I think fast fashion there's a treatment of models and how they have to look and all of that. 00:22:24.400 --> 00:22:27.279 But we won't go into these are the two logics. 00:22:27.759 --> 00:22:28.880 That has changed a lot. 00:22:28.960 --> 00:22:38.960 There are a lot of brands now and big brands big well-known brands where if you look at their website they have not only a small person but a plus size person. 00:22:39.279 --> 00:22:49.200 Yeah we all know that yes yeah but um I think that uh fast fashion is something that I am very against. 00:22:49.440 --> 00:22:57.039 I think that we should love and treasure whatever we buy and we shouldn't just be buying 50 dresses a week just because they're cheap. 00:22:57.359 --> 00:23:03.519 Yeah good right what are we up to next we finish up what we go to line dancing. 00:23:03.839 --> 00:23:06.880 Give me a break Rosemary it's only 11 o'clock. 00:23:07.039 --> 00:23:27.279 Alright Rosemary thank you what is inspiring you oh well I've just done my inspiration haven't I got one you go first well I'm inspired because I am in the middle of making the front half of my studio a gallery of my work. 00:23:27.519 --> 00:23:59.839 I've got less markets coming up over winter so most Saturdays I am free and uh I'm going to open my studio up to welcome people in and it will be a gallery from I think it'll be from 10 till two on a Saturday I've just got to check the dates times that the lifts close on a Saturday so before I give a final time I had a friend around yesterday and uh because

I do have other friends Rose me not just here and we were converting the front half into a a gallery space. 00:24:00.000 --> 00:24:17.599 So I'll have my beautiful work there for people to come and have a look at have a feel have a touch and also I think that a market setting is you've got a lot of work on display whereas I think in a gallery setting you can actually look at an individual piece and see it better in your own home. 00:24:17.839 --> 00:24:28.240 So it will be interesting and I'm I'm it will be open on July the 4th day and so hopefully people will come and visit me there. 00:24:28.480 --> 00:24:37.839 That's great Michelle and you'll have learned from our little podcast we did with with the um other two Dana and Anna how to set it up. 00:24:38.160 --> 00:24:44.799 Well actually Dana was the person who has come and helped me set it up and we had lots of fun and laugh and giggles. 00:24:45.279 --> 00:24:57.920 So it was a great day again I always learn from Dana she has such an amazing eye for seeing how work will look and she's very gentle in how she puts forward her point of view. 00:24:58.160 --> 00:25:02.000 So it's really easy to accept it and say yeah I'll do that. 00:25:02.400 --> 00:25:04.079 Yeah it's great that's great. 00:25:04.240 --> 00:25:39.440 Alright I've found my inspiration which is my new Squarespace website rosemarypatterson.com and I'm doing about two blogs a week which brings me a lot of joy and it's my tiny little voice for my tiny little patch in the world about how we live so if anyone wants to visit I'd love that and there's free there's free downloadable PDFs on certain things like one of the ones I just put up was um talking to kids about what we're winning at with the environment rather than talking in a negative way. 00:25:39.680 --> 00:25:40.559 That's fantastic. 00:25:40.799 --> 00:25:52.799 Rosemary I have put up a shot of your website so people can see the front page and I um will also make your web your website address is in our closing credits as well. 00:25:53.440 --> 00:25:53.680 Thank you. 00:25:53.839 --> 00:26:00.480 That's all right well I will see you all in a fortnight's time and Rosemary I'll see you sooner. 00:26:00.720 --> 00:26:06.640 Alright bye everyone thank you so much for listening to Shift Stirrers Podcast. 00:26:06.720 --> 00:26:13.839 If you enjoyed this episode please hit that follow button so you can get notified whenever we we release new content. 00:26:14.000 --> 00:26:26.480 We'd love to hear feel from you and feel free to reach out to us at theshift stirrers at gmail.com or you can find our individual email addresses and websites in the show notes below. 00:26:26.720 --> 00:26:28.000 We love questions. 00:26:28.160 --> 00:26:33.279 You can also connect to us on Instagram at ShiftStirrers. 00:26:33.440 --> 00:26:44.480 If you found value in today's conversation we'd be incredible incredibly grateful if you could leave us a review or a rating on your podcast platform. 00:26:44.559 --> 00:26:51.839 It really helps others to discover the show and if you know someone who will benefit from this episode please share with them. 00:26:52.000 --> 00:27:01.039 Until next time keep stirring the shift just a quick disclaimer Michelle and Rosemary are not experts in any of these discussions today. 00:27:01.200 --> 00:27:06.559 We present this podcast in the interest of getting you curious to make changes. 00:27:06.720 --> 00:27:07.200 Thank you.