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Welcome to the Parenting Roundabout podcast. I'm Terry Morrow and
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I'm Catherine Jileco. As parents and parenting writers, we can't
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help but see everything through a parenting lens. But as
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our kids have become adults, we find ourselves more interested
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in getting caught up on movies and streaming than I'm
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going over the same parenting topics over and over.
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So since we're pretty sure we can find parenting wisdom anywhere,
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we're going to talk about what we're watching, what we
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thought about it, and maybe what we can learn from it,
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if only what not to do. Watch and listen along,
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and let's all make like we're doing something important for
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our families.
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Each Tuesday, we bring you a watch or rewatch of
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an older entertainment property, And for this week of November
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twenty fifth, we are continuing with Lost season one, episode
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twenty one, The Greater Good, which was somewhat randomly a
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SAE flashback episode. Okay, right, THEAVI and Andrews was short
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on appearances, so they said, okay, man, you can have
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this one.
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I mean, I like his appearance, so that's true.
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If the only reason is because he's pretty, then that's fine.
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I'll accept that.
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Yeah, but yeah, I mean you'd think maybe maybe Shannon,
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maybe Claire, like these two have had pretty big things
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go on with them in the previous episode.
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But I mean like dead Boone coming back, right, you know,
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looking down from the sky at the goings on and
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saying I remember when. But no, it's Sayid and I
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really feel like they're supposed to be a connection between
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and I don't know what it is betwetween the flashbacks
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and the usually the flashbacks comment in some way on
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the action the island. Hey here, Jack has trouble letting
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things go right.
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Yeah, he was like basically Sayid was well, I mean
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he was he was dealing with Lock like he was
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confronting Locke, not.
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Very effectually, right, right. I think Shannon wanted him to
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be dealing with Locke in an entirely different way. So,
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I mean, if the one of the themes of the
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flashbacks was he was willing to do all these things
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for a woman, including betraying his friend, maybe he said, hey,
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you know what that got me on this island, so
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maybe I'm not going to do anything for this pe. Yeah,
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and if he's like still thinking he's eventually going to
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get to Nadya. Should he be canoodling with Shannon?
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Good question.
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I'm trying to get to the great love of my life.
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And in the meanwhile, well, I like your blonde hair.
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Yeah, but and I also like the recap. And you
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know what you were just mentioning is like he was
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willing to sacrifice his friend and you know, convince his
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friend to go ahead with this suicide bombing so that
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he could get what he wanted, which was to find
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his way back to Nadia. But he he tried to
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have it both ways. I mean, he tried to like, Okay,
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here's where the explosives are, which is what the CIA
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wants to know, and friend run away now and everything
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will be fine.
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I mean obviously he should have known, like where was
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that guy gonna go?
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I mean, he was.
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Gonna be killed by his you know, buddies if he
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didn't do what he was supposed to do. So but
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I feel like said was trying to, yeah, not kill his.
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Friend, that's right. And his noble gesture of claiming his
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friend's book so it could be buried put him on
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the slight flucker.
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Yep. Let what happened?
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Was there some something about what we saw on the
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island that had to do with the greater good.
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Yeah, good question.
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I feel like there should be. And then I'm just
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well missing it was I'm not going to kill Locke
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because I think he is going to help us
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survive.
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On as Island.
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That seems like they got to the end of the
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script and they said, oh crap, we haven't figured out
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how this relates to anything, like, yeah, Locke being alive
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is for the greater good.
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There you go, right, And also he didn't seem all
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that mad that Locke was like, oh, also, I hit
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you on the head and knocked you out, Yeah, a
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couple of weeks ago. So he was like, all right,
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well okay, but but you know how to hunt bore,
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So I guess you're staying.
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Of which there are apparently no more. Yeah, how much
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four of these people been eating? Was there just like
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one small family of war on this island.
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Well, it's just.
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That mother and the babies that invaded the camp. But
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once we got those, that's it.
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And bothered bothered Sawyer which side notes, yes, lovely little
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you know c or D plot of Sawyer is the
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baby whisper.
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I adored that. That's a parenting dip right there, mine
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something that makes your baby shut up, even if it's
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the sky you can't stand you know what. Yep, He'll
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sit there and read automotive magazines to the baby. Right.
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I was surprised Sawyer didn't put up much more of
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a fuss about that, but I guess if it keeps
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the baby from crying.
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Really did not want to hear the baby crying, so
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he was gonna go for it.
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That was the cutest thing of all the people to
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be on the baby, rightet it down for it's that Well,
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it's lucky because that guy didn't do much more than
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sit around the beach. Is it had been somebody who
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had an actual job to do. If it had been Jack,
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they'd have been screwed. That Jack has to be drugged. Yeah,
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take an take a nap. This is not relatable to
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me because if anybody says to me, stop stop worrying
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about things, stop doing things, just sleep, It's like, yes, sleep,
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sleep is good. Where's your couch. I will lay down.
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I'm just gonna take a little nap. Jack would constantly
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if I was Jack, I would constantly going, you know,
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this needs to be dealt with. I'm just gonna take
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a little nap and then I'll be bad.
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As soon as that's over.
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After my nap, is he sleeping again? That's the way
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it would be if I was Jack. Wake that guy up.
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What's the matter with him? Yes, somebody. Claire didn't want
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to sleep either, just I mean.
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I understand why she didn't want to sleep, because, yes,
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although we do know that Ethan's dead and he's the
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one who tried to get her baby, was working so loo,
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yes exactly.
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I have to laugh when when Charlie says, you know,
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I'll take the baby. I won't let anything happen to him.
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It's like, buddy, you said that to me, almost immediately
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got right. Especially she does not remember that, but if
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you do, he is.
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A Jack available to watch the baby. Virtually anybody else
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but Charlie. Somebody says, hey, we found Heroin in a plane,
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and Charlie is gonna dump the baby on the beach.
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Yeah, he wouldn't do that. But also they they definitely
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have multiple babies of very different ages and sizes playing
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that baby like sometimes he looks like he's about four
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months old, and sometimes he's was wondering like he's more
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like a month or two. He never looks like he's
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brand new.
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Just no I have. I have zero infant experience of
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my own. But yeah, that baby looked much too robust
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to be Yeah, no, large and robust little turnip.
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Head A good idea to tell Claire that I've been
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calling you.
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Has she actually said what the name is? I can't remember.
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I don't think I know what the baby's name is,
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but I don't know if it's been said.
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Yeah, I know what it is from reading it on
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lost Pedia,
but I don't think she's said it out loud.
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She's waiting for somebody to do her a favor and
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then she could bestow the name. No, I think it
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winds up being nobody's name. What else I enjoyed At
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some point I'm not sure who said it, but there
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was a declaration made no more lies, and I'm like, well,
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thank goodness, that's it for the rest of the show.
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Absolutely straight. Why I you know what, just just say?
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You know if Locke, if Locke told the truth, nobody
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would believe him. Hey, you know, I was in a
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wheelchair and now I'm not right, But he is. He
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is a little off the chain, Locke. He's just he's
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just telling people different people, different stories. And I mean
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he found the plane because of a dream, right, Yeah,
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nobody's gonna believe that. You know, he didn't tell Sayud that,
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But if he had, would it have made things better?
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Yeah?
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It would have been like, well, if you're not going
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to tell me the truth, then don't even Yeah, but
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this island is weird, man, Yeah, the lies of truth?
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Truth is lies. How can you tell Sawyer is soothing
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to a baby's where this island is.
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A baby who grows and shrinks?
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Yep, time is weird on the island. Get a little
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to yet a little younger. Yeah, but I guess Locke
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has lost his little disciple. Balt has had it with him.
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I think he's afraid of Yes, luck, now what happened
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to the last young guy who went out exactly? Also,
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you know, Locke shows up at the funeral completely.
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Covered in blood, like, where have you been?
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Yeah? It's my fault? Yeah, my bad. But you know,
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the most painful thing for Walt is not losing I
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don't know what the age is. Maybe this isn't true,
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but it's not losing this guy he looked up to
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and enjoyed doing things with. But having to admit that
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his father is right.
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Oh no, exactly.
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Burned at him now he was right.
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You'll have to go back to playing back Kevin with Hurley.
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I guess, well, Hurley's good for it, we know now, yeah,
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we know.
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Yeah, it's got some doughly what else happened in this one?
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You know, like there wasn't much parenting in the flashbacks?
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I guess that we can.
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Oh, yeah, those flashbags were bad though, that was.
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You know Cia, Yeah, yeah, the greater good.
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It's okay to be It's okay to be bad for
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the greater good. Apparently maybe that sort of thing. Yeah,
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Locke is being bad for the greater good? Or is he? Though? Yeah, Locke,
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I don't quite know what's going on with that. Dude.
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Why doesn't he just tell everybody about the hatch? Why
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does it need to be a secret because it's special
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because it's spoke to him? Or yeah, what's he gonna
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do all by himself? Right?
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And also he he's making your lateral decisions about what
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is for the greater good? You know, like him him
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knocking out said because of them radio transmission. He's like,
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I did it because I didn't think people needed to
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know about this transmission, like, well, okay, well why why
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are you the one who gets to decide that?
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Yeah, we know, it's just because he doesn't want to
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get off the island, right, But.
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Last week we talked about where is Claire getting closed
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for the baby? She does appear to have like a
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baby blanket, And then at one point someone asked Charlie like, well,
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it is diaper dirty, and Charlie just takes a sniff,
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like which is a very actually apparent thing to do,
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like just just you know, by nose is how you tell.
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Both shows we watched this week involved people smelling babies,
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true to determine the diaper situation.
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True, that's right, we will get to that tomorrow. But
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but yeah, they just I guess they're just telling us
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that there's diapers or you.
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Know, don't ask too many questions. It's the Magical Islands,
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I know it is. There's a cave full of diapers.
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You can get heroin, you can get coconuts, and.
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So that plain full of heroin is just like a
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ticking time.
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I know. Yeah, I'm worried about Charlie. Yes, that'll keep
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him busy for a while, it's true, But yes, that
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is That is unnerving knowing that that's out there, plus
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at least two more bodies that they haven't.
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Dealt with, right, Yeah, get those guys in the dirt.
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They've got quite this quite the cemetery they're.
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Going with, ye yeah, but they got their hands full.
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So everybody knows that the key to a locker full
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of guns is around Jack's neck.
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Yeah, they mentioned this online.
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I thought Shannon had known that. She seems to mostly
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be off doing things that don't have to do with
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the welfare of the of the era. She hasn't been
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on the committee, you know, to uh, to do stuff
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anything at all on the committee to get a TAN exactly. Yeah,
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by Saya, I don't know.
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Last pedia they said something about how she somehow she
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found out from Kate.
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what had happened. So, yeah, a lot of people just
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spontaneously shooting or attempting to shoot people in the jungle.
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It never works out that well, right, although actually I
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guess it did for Charlie shott Ethan that worked out okay. Yeah,
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But it's always like dramatically the person you wouldn't expect
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to suddenly they're holding a gun, right right.
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terms of okay, Ethan's gone, But speaking of taking time bombs,
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we know he wasn't alone. So at some point it
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feels like somebody's gonna come looking.
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I wonder we got three more episodes left for the
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first season. When do you think.
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People are going to show up?
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I'm sure that we'll end the season with just a
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nice little clam bake on the beach, everybody happy to
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be together, warning those lost, looking forward to future adventures.
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There we go as the sun sets.
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Sounds good.
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And no more lies. They're all being completely honest with
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one another night, right right, little utopia there on the island.
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Right because much like parenting, you know, we know that
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once we solve a problem, then we're all good. From
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that point, we can.
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Go take a nap. Yeah, that's great, No problems that
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that nice reprobate everybody hates. We'll take care, We'll soothe
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the baby to sleep.
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That's good, no problem.
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So next Tuesday we will continue with season one episode
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twenty two, Have Lost Born to Run, which is I
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believe a k flashback because if you heard a future
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excellent and This is the last episode before the big
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two part season finale, so expect lots of dominoes to
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be set in place to be dramatically tipped in that
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those last two episodes all right, yay, thank you for listening.
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