S01 EP64: Sindhu Vee ၏ စာသားမှတ်တမ်းအပြည့်အစုံ

year. 41 00:01:53.840 --> 00:01:56.150 Oh, right. Okay. So she's proper for it. 42 00:01:56.299 --> 00:01:58.640 Yeah, she's proper for it. She wants a pink sparkly bike. 43 00:01:59.319 --> 00:01:59.840 Classic. 44 00:02:00.599 --> 00:02:05.560 Absolute classic. And she wants an Elsa jigsaw. I'll be 45 00:02:05.579 --> 00:02:08.110 honest with you. You know those things you think, oh, 46 00:02:08.150 --> 00:02:09.909 she's not going to get into unicorns in the colour 47 00:02:09.949 --> 00:02:12.229 pink like every other girl. And she fucking has, mate. 48 00:02:12.969 --> 00:02:15.710 Well, that's the thing. Our five-year-old is exactly the same. 49 00:02:16.629 --> 00:02:20.250 The two-year-old, she's a lot more into, she absolutely loves dinosaurs. 50 00:02:20.490 --> 00:02:20.810 Right. 51 00:02:20.830 --> 00:02:21.750 Cannot get enough of them. 52 00:02:21.969 --> 00:02:22.210 Yeah. 53 00:02:22.330 --> 00:02:25.969 But I'm desperate to watch, Jurassic Park's my favourite film. 54 00:02:26.129 --> 00:02:26.330 Yeah. 55 00:02:26.349 --> 00:02:27.889 I love all the Jurassic Park films, more so than 56 00:02:27.930 --> 00:02:30.610 Star Wars or Avengers and stuff like that. But it's just, 57 00:02:30.629 --> 00:02:33.159 I'm just panicked. I just, I cannot go too early 58 00:02:33.189 --> 00:02:35.159 with it. I think we've spoken about this before. And 59 00:02:35.180 --> 00:02:35.949 they're way too young for it now. 60 00:02:35.960 --> 00:02:37.509 Yeah, you can cover off dinosaurs for life. Exactly. 61 00:02:37.550 --> 00:02:38.949 So it's just a waiting game. So I just need 62 00:02:38.990 --> 00:02:41.770 to know when I can show them the first Jurassic Park, 63 00:02:41.810 --> 00:02:42.449 need to work it out. 64 00:02:42.629 --> 00:02:43.860 Probably about 10. 65 00:02:43.849 --> 00:02:46.840 Yeah, potentially. But it's weird though, because at 10, they're so, 66 00:02:47.060 --> 00:02:49.919 like my mate texts me, he's doing his kid's Christmas list, 67 00:02:49.939 --> 00:02:54.520 they're sending to Santa. And he said his boy 100% 68 00:02:54.520 --> 00:02:57.319 is over the sort of magic of Christmas. And his 69 00:02:58.080 --> 00:03:00.539 Christmas list is like a sort of like a hostage 70 00:03:00.719 --> 00:03:04.719 demand list, like in a negotiation. He's just written it 71 00:03:04.919 --> 00:03:07.259 on a bit of A4 paper at the printer that's 72 00:03:07.280 --> 00:03:09.550 folded in half or creased and just written in the 73 00:03:09.590 --> 00:03:12.340 top left-hand corner, Dear Santa, I've been good this year, 74 00:03:12.379 --> 00:03:16.330 so can I have PS5 or MacBook, skateboard, Apollo 11, 75 00:03:16.330 --> 00:03:21.030 Rocket Lego, clothes, money, football boots, good quality mic, rugby ball. 76 00:03:21.430 --> 00:03:21.930 Not even a thank you. 77 00:03:21.969 --> 00:03:22.879 Good quality mic? 78 00:03:23.300 --> 00:03:25.699 I know. They're all broadcasters now, Josh. 79 00:03:25.919 --> 00:03:27.439 Bloody

hell, we're in trouble, aren't we? 80 00:03:27.439 --> 00:03:28.169 This really made me laugh. 81 00:03:28.349 --> 00:03:31.090 Do you do... How Christmassy is your house? Have you 82 00:03:31.110 --> 00:03:31.719 got your tree up? 83 00:03:31.729 --> 00:03:35.189 Oh, yeah, we've gone full Christmas. This year, first year. 84 00:03:35.780 --> 00:03:37.919 With the amount you leave your heating on, those needles 85 00:03:38.199 --> 00:03:40.060 are going to be on the floor by December 12th, mate. 86 00:03:40.080 --> 00:03:42.560 You are going to be very, very anti-this. 87 00:03:43.259 --> 00:03:43.979 You've got a plastic tree. 88 00:03:44.000 --> 00:03:45.520 We've got an artificial. It's not plastic. 89 00:03:45.539 --> 00:03:47.860 Of course you have, Rob. It's on brand. 90 00:03:47.900 --> 00:03:50.139 We've gone the first year. I've always been anti it, 91 00:03:50.259 --> 00:03:51.139 but I got sick of it. 92 00:03:51.139 --> 00:03:53.240 Rob Beckett fans would not be happy if you didn't 93 00:03:53.280 --> 00:03:54.020 have a fake tree. 94 00:03:54.060 --> 00:03:57.599 It's an artificial. Stop saying fake. Stop saying plastic. It's artificial. 95 00:03:57.780 --> 00:04:01.020 It's 4G. It's 4G. I've got a 4G AstroTurf tree. 96 00:04:01.080 --> 00:04:06.789 It's like a pitch in Sweden. But, you know, it 97 00:04:06.840 --> 00:04:10.080 does look realistic. It's good. But I just think, yeah, 98 00:04:10.099 --> 00:04:11.689 the needles would drop. The amount of heating we've got 99 00:04:11.710 --> 00:04:14.129 in a house, it's just they're thirsty. Thirsty boys. 100 00:04:14.370 --> 00:04:16.389 Are you pouring an innocent smoothie down for it to... 101 00:04:17.500 --> 00:04:19.379 for it to keep hydrated throughout. 102 00:04:19.399 --> 00:04:21.189 A bit of sugar in there, a couple of lucasades 103 00:04:21.250 --> 00:04:23.930 just to keep it energised. But I'll tell you what 104 00:04:23.970 --> 00:04:25.970 is good. I went to Costco and they sell these 105 00:04:25.990 --> 00:04:29.129 like garland things and they're about. 106 00:04:29.149 --> 00:04:29.550 Like a wreath? 107 00:04:30.189 --> 00:04:32.870 Yeah, but not a wreath, but it's in one long... 108 00:04:32.689 --> 00:04:34.939 Imagine like a really long, fat bit of tinsel, but 109 00:04:34.980 --> 00:04:35.600 it's not tinsel. 110 00:04:35.639 --> 00:04:35.839 Oh, yeah. 111 00:04:35.879 --> 00:04:38.019 But it looks like a green... like a bit of 112 00:04:38.120 --> 00:04:41.339 a tree about five foot long right i think there's 113 00:04:41.360 --> 00:04:43.639 about 20 or 30 quid with lights on on baubles 114 00:04:43.680 --> 00:04:45.420 you just plug them in and they light up it 115 00:04:45.439 --> 00:04:47.899 is such an easy way to make your house look 116 00:04:47.920 --> 00:04:50.850 like it's like properly festive i feel like you know 117 00:04:50.899 --> 00:04:53.170 like america is so much more festive than this country 118 00:04:53.189 --> 00:04:55.569 they just put it everywhere and that it's an absolute 119 00:04:55.589 --> 00:04:59.009 game changer it's so festive our house i'm loving. 120 00:04:58.810 --> 00:05:00.709 It i uh we haven't we haven't done it yet 121 00:05:00.750 --> 00:05:04.720 because we we got the tree too early three years ago. 122 00:05:04.899 --> 00:05:06.079 And by Christmas day, it was. 123 00:05:06.259 --> 00:05:07.120 That's the problem with a real tree. 124 00:05:07.139 --> 00:05:07.759 It was an embarrassment. 125 00:05:07.860 --> 00:05:10.370 When you go artificial, you can pop it up late November. 126 00:05:10.610 --> 00:05:13.050 Yeah, I'm not going to go artificial, Rob. Come on, mate. 127 00:05:13.870 --> 00:05:14.449 Why not? 128 00:05:14.550 --> 00:05:14.730 Yeah. 129 00:05:14.949 --> 00:05:16.589 Because I don't want to go with an artificial tree. 130 00:05:16.629 --> 00:05:17.430 I like the smell. 131 00:05:17.449 --> 00:05:20.509 Get a candle. Get a candle and cheat it. We've 132 00:05:20.529 --> 00:05:23.079 got a candle. We've got some room diffusers. It looks 133 00:05:23.139 --> 00:05:27.509 and smells like a real tree. And it comes... Pre-lit. 134 00:05:27.730 --> 00:05:30.670 Already lights on it. You don't have to find the 135 00:05:30.689 --> 00:05:32.560 fairy lights. You don't have to twirl them and twangle 136 00:05:32.569 --> 00:05:33.939 them around. You just plug it in. 137 00:05:33.939 --> 00:05:36.660 That's one of the best bits, getting Christmas tree ready. 138 00:05:36.879 --> 00:05:40.160 But what's the worst bit? Taking those lights off as 139 00:05:40.800 --> 00:05:41.779 the needles fall. 140 00:05:42.160 --> 00:05:45.759 No, I do quite enjoy the dismantling of the Christmas tree. 141 00:05:45.939 --> 00:05:47.519 Where do you get rid of it, though? That's the problem. 142 00:05:47.560 --> 00:05:50.089 Trying to get rid of a Christmas tree. The council. 143 00:05:50.110 --> 00:05:52.029 They don't know what's going on. I don't know what 144 00:05:52.189 --> 00:05:54.829 day of the week it is. But our ones, they go, yeah, 145 00:05:54.889 --> 00:05:57.540 take it to a local park. No, just take it 146 00:05:57.560 --> 00:05:59.139 to a local park. I'm not going to get that 147 00:05:59.220 --> 00:06:00.879 in a car and drive it to a park. 148 00:06:00.959 --> 00:06:01.540 It's a nightmare. 149 00:06:01.560 --> 00:06:03.079 Take it to a local park and dispose of it 150 00:06:03.120 --> 00:06:03.699 like a body. 151 00:06:03.800 --> 00:06:05.660 Just throw it in a local park. It's basically like, 152 00:06:05.680 --> 00:06:08.060 you know what they did in Blackheath with the plague? 153 00:06:08.079 --> 00:06:09.839 They just threw bodies on top of each other and 154 00:06:09.860 --> 00:06:13.379 buried them. It's like that. It's like a fenced off area. 155 00:06:13.620 --> 00:06:15.389 You just chuck the trees in and it piles up 156 00:06:15.430 --> 00:06:18.990 like some sort of horrendous grave. Hackney Council, come and 157 00:06:19.009 -->

00:06:21.910 get it. If I could put, if I was allowed 158 00:06:21.949 --> 00:06:24.709 to put a tree on the street and they take it, 159 00:06:24.860 --> 00:06:27.660 I'd be into it. But they don't. It's a nightmare. 160 00:06:27.720 --> 00:06:29.439 I normally just throw it at the end of the garden. 161 00:06:29.720 --> 00:06:30.819 But that's what I used to do in rented properties. 162 00:06:30.850 --> 00:06:32.329 Is it true that you're not having real food for 163 00:06:32.350 --> 00:06:33.910 your Christmas dinner as well? You're just going to release 164 00:06:33.930 --> 00:06:35.930 the smell of turkey and then have a plastic one 165 00:06:35.990 --> 00:06:36.709 in the middle of the table. 166 00:06:36.790 --> 00:06:40.290 It's our hook, our Christmas. We use our imagination and 167 00:06:40.310 --> 00:06:41.050 just launch. 168 00:06:40.790 --> 00:06:43.370 It each other. Do you do advent calendars? 169 00:06:44.500 --> 00:06:44.769 Yes. 170 00:06:44.800 --> 00:06:47.360 So this year, Lou did one when she used to 171 00:06:47.399 --> 00:06:49.560 make it for the kids, but it was just chocolates 172 00:06:49.579 --> 00:06:50.860 and toys and stuff like that. So what she's done 173 00:06:50.899 --> 00:06:53.160 this year is a book vent. So she's got loads 174 00:06:53.180 --> 00:06:55.259 of books and they get a book each day. They're 175 00:06:55.279 --> 00:06:58.439 sharing an advent calendar and they unwrap a book and 176 00:06:58.459 --> 00:07:00.240 then they read that book that night, a Christmassy book 177 00:07:00.300 --> 00:07:00.939 leading up to Christmas. 178 00:07:00.959 --> 00:07:01.899 Blimey. Yeah. 179 00:07:02.399 --> 00:07:03.939 It's pretty impressive what she's done. 180 00:07:04.199 --> 00:07:05.060 Yeah. 181 00:07:05.600 --> 00:07:07.199 She wants to start selling them next year and doing 182 00:07:07.240 --> 00:07:07.699 it for people. 183 00:07:08.079 --> 00:07:08.639 That's a great idea. 184 00:07:08.660 --> 00:07:10.399 I mean, maybe, have I given away the idea already? 185 00:07:10.560 --> 00:07:12.560 Yeah, I think you're fine because this is like the 186 00:07:12.600 --> 00:07:15.100 equivalent of, like, you can use this in court because 187 00:07:15.120 --> 00:07:16.500 this is time sensitive. 188 00:07:16.540 --> 00:07:18.120 Well, I'm going to show you the book then and 189 00:07:18.170 --> 00:07:20.250 if people are interested in the book then, we will 190 00:07:20.310 --> 00:07:22.910 sell them next year. That's the deal. We'll stick that 191 00:07:22.930 --> 00:07:23.290 on Instagram. 192 00:07:23.350 --> 00:07:25.310 Do you care what you get for Christmas now? 193 00:07:25.649 --> 00:07:28.709 Um, not really. I, you know, I'm sort of, it's 194 00:07:28.730 --> 00:07:32.069 weird though, because I'm not really into anything to flash. 195 00:07:32.629 --> 00:07:35.050 Like I quite like computer games, stuff like that. But 196 00:07:35.069 --> 00:07:36.550 a lot of the time I would just buy that 197 00:07:36.589 --> 00:07:39.069 for myself throughout the year, especially because I do YouTube 198 00:07:39.110 --> 00:07:41.529 videos of me playing computer games. It's like, I sort 199 00:07:41.550 --> 00:07:44.009 of justify it at work. So yeah, it's not really 200 00:07:44.069 --> 00:07:47.269 anything that I. normally we do experiences that will go 201 00:07:47.310 --> 00:07:49.629 on holiday or do a book, a hotel and that 202 00:07:49.670 --> 00:07:51.889 kind of stuff, like rather than material goods, but I'm 203 00:07:51.910 --> 00:07:53.750 not really like, I want to do, I don't really have, 204 00:07:53.790 --> 00:07:58.449 I'm not into watches or into cars or into fancy clothes. 205 00:07:58.569 --> 00:08:00.339 I mean, who gets a car? You don't get a 206 00:08:00.329 --> 00:08:02.420 car for Christmas, but so yeah, not really, but probably 207 00:08:02.439 --> 00:08:03.860 a bit of Lego. I'll be happy with Josh. 208 00:08:04.259 --> 00:08:04.500 Yeah. 209 00:08:04.819 --> 00:08:05.040 Yeah. 210 00:08:05.079 --> 00:08:06.240 And then when the kids are in bed, I'll do 211 00:08:06.300 --> 00:08:08.040 that in the evening with a nice glass of Bailey's. 212 00:08:08.060 --> 00:08:09.240 What about you? What do you want for Christmas? 213 00:08:10.879 --> 00:08:13.259 I think it's the same. Like, I never thought I'd 214 00:08:13.300 --> 00:08:15.779 reach the stage where I actually prefer giving the presents 215 00:08:15.819 --> 00:08:18.779 to getting them now. Yeah. I thought that was, when 216 00:08:18.800 --> 00:08:22.139 people used to say that, I think, you fucking liar. 217 00:08:22.980 --> 00:08:25.350 You absolute fucking liar. You've seen the John Lewis advert 218 00:08:25.430 --> 00:08:26.889 and you think that's the best way to be. Don't 219 00:08:26.910 --> 00:08:30.230 you dare give me that kind of shit. Everyone wants 220 00:08:30.269 --> 00:08:32.950 to get loads of presents. But actually, as long as 221 00:08:32.970 --> 00:08:34.929 I've got a chocolate orange, I can give a shit. 222 00:08:34.950 --> 00:08:37.679 The advice I'd give though for parents at Christmas is, 223 00:08:38.480 --> 00:08:42.029 we got the, they got a like a, like a, 224 00:08:42.340 --> 00:08:44.360 a Disney sort of like castle thing that you had 225 00:08:44.399 --> 00:08:47.519 to assemble. And obviously it's hard to do it. So 226 00:08:47.700 --> 00:08:51.600 I spent four hours assembling a Disney castle Christmas Eve, 227 00:08:51.620 --> 00:08:54.200 like up against the clock. So I was trying to 228 00:08:54.220 --> 00:08:56.039 like lose that off her head on Sherry, having a laugh. 229 00:08:56.080 --> 00:08:57.539 And I'm sat there like a factory worker. 230 00:08:57.639 --> 00:08:59.340 Oh, against the clock as in time wise. 231 00:08:59.379 --> 00:08:59.899 Yeah. 232 00:08:59.960 --> 00:09:03.620 I was picturing you like leaning on a grandfather clock. 233 00:09:03.919 --> 00:09:05.539 Yeah, no, but like having to do that and like, 234

00:09:05.840 --> 00:09:07.419 we want to get the trumpet. I mean, they're not 235 00:09:07.440 --> 00:09:09.019 going to listen to this, are they? And then someone 236 00:09:09.059 --> 00:09:10.899 listens to this and then tells them it ruined my 237 00:09:11.019 --> 00:09:14.149 kid's Christmas. That'd be awful. But a trampoline for Christmas. 238 00:09:14.389 --> 00:09:17.549 But it's so big, we had to get it delivered to, like, grandparents. 239 00:09:17.580 --> 00:09:19.899 So it's in the grandparents' garage. Got no way to 240 00:09:19.940 --> 00:09:21.320 put it. So it's in there. So at some point, 241 00:09:21.960 --> 00:09:24.100 leading up to Christmas, I've got to go and get it, 242 00:09:24.500 --> 00:09:27.220 assemble it, and put it in the garden without the 243 00:09:27.259 --> 00:09:27.940 kids noticing. 244 00:09:28.379 --> 00:09:28.600 Oh, my God. 245 00:09:28.639 --> 00:09:29.799 So that could only really happen. 246 00:09:29.820 --> 00:09:30.909 Put some tinsel around it. 247 00:09:31.259 --> 00:09:33.419 And also, their bedrooms look out onto the back garden. 248 00:09:33.779 --> 00:09:33.960 Oh, my. 249 00:09:33.960 --> 00:09:35.639 So it's like, I've got to wait until they're definitely... 250 00:09:35.419 --> 00:09:36.159 So I reckon. 251 00:09:36.000 --> 00:09:37.419 It'll probably be about... You'll have to put up, like, a... 252 00:09:38.230 --> 00:09:40.370 A sheet around yourself, like when they kill a horse 253 00:09:40.409 --> 00:09:41.269 at the Grand National. 254 00:09:42.580 --> 00:09:47.519 Yeah. Or like, you know, when they like make a 255 00:09:47.539 --> 00:09:52.610 big building disappear. But I don't know what I'm going 256 00:09:52.620 --> 00:09:55.309 to do because really the only time I can do it, 257 00:09:55.330 --> 00:09:57.690 because I can't assemble it anywhere else and then drive 258 00:09:57.710 --> 00:10:00.720 it over. It's not like a small thing. It's got 259 00:10:00.740 --> 00:10:03.100 to be. So when you're all sat having a baby. 260 00:10:03.139 --> 00:10:07.000 Be honest, Rob. Be honest. Two questions. So say you're 261 00:10:07.019 --> 00:10:08.980 doing this at what, 8pm on Christmas Eve? 262 00:10:09.419 --> 00:10:13.559 I reckon 8pm would be the earliest because they've got 263 00:10:13.620 --> 00:10:14.799 to be sound asleep. 264 00:10:15.750 --> 00:10:18.110 9pm on Christmas Eve when you're assembling the trampoline. 265 00:10:18.409 --> 00:10:18.990 It's going to be, yeah. 266 00:10:19.269 --> 00:10:21.210 How pissed are you going to be out of 10? 267 00:10:21.210 --> 00:10:21.850 Angry or drunk? 268 00:10:22.190 --> 00:10:23.889 Drunk, because I'm not an American, mate. 269 00:10:24.009 --> 00:10:26.399 I reckon what will happen is, the problem is, it's 270 00:10:26.419 --> 00:10:28.600 going to be so cold. I'm going to be on 271 00:10:28.639 --> 00:10:30.080 my own because of lockdown rules. 272 00:10:30.440 --> 00:10:32.320 Is there not like someone who's babbling with you that

273 00:10:32.340 --> 00:10:34.679 could help you, like Lou's dad or your dad or something? 274 00:10:35.100 --> 00:10:36.860 Yeah, but I can't make someone come in my garden 275 00:10:36.899 --> 00:10:41.299 at 9pm and put a trampoline together. Christmas Eve? I 276 00:10:41.779 --> 00:10:44.179 just want people to know, when you're sat having a 277 00:10:44.220 --> 00:10:48.129 nice little drink Christmas Eve, look in your garden at 9pm. 278 00:10:48.669 --> 00:10:49.830 It could be raining as well. 279 00:10:50.450 --> 00:10:52.610 I've never wanted a white Christmas more now that I 280 00:10:52.649 --> 00:10:53.490 know this is going on. 281 00:10:54.730 --> 00:10:57.490 Or I could risk it, get pissed and get up 282 00:10:57.590 --> 00:10:58.850 early and do it at 3am. 283 00:10:59.190 --> 00:11:02.960 No way. If you're pissed and you're doing it, You're 284 00:11:02.980 --> 00:11:03.820 going to have a go, aren't you? 285 00:11:04.179 --> 00:11:05.639 Oh, yeah, I'm definitely going to have a go. I'm 286 00:11:05.799 --> 00:11:07.080 thinking about getting a big bow to put on it 287 00:11:07.100 --> 00:11:08.860 as well, because that'd be quite fun. But it will 288 00:11:08.879 --> 00:11:10.399 be amazing when they see it and they're excited to 289 00:11:10.419 --> 00:11:12.190 see it and go on it. But it's just a 290 00:11:12.230 --> 00:11:13.950 bit of a logistical nightmare. So if anyone's got any 291 00:11:13.990 --> 00:11:16.590 tips on that, I'm sure other people have assembled a trampoline. 292 00:11:16.970 --> 00:11:19.149 How hard is it? Do I need a second person? 293 00:11:19.350 --> 00:11:21.659 But yeah, I'd love to hear other stories of people 294 00:11:21.700 --> 00:11:24.139 that have had nightmares Christmas Eve trying to put toys together. Yeah. 295 00:11:24.740 --> 00:11:28.440 Or if anyone, that's another tip, get batteries. Every single 296 00:11:28.500 --> 00:11:31.179 type of battery you can get, buy it and leave 297 00:11:31.200 --> 00:11:33.039 it in the cupboard because you do not want to 298 00:11:33.059 --> 00:11:35.340 be driving to a petrol station to try and buy 299 00:11:35.360 --> 00:11:37.399 them weird little rectangle ones. 300 00:11:38.039 --> 00:11:40.850 Oh yeah. The weird little rectangle ones. No one wants them. 301 00:11:41.750 --> 00:11:44.090 I remember Christmas day, things not working and it's an 302 00:11:44.169 --> 00:11:45.490 absolute heartbreaker, isn't it? 303 00:11:45.509 --> 00:11:45.690 Yes. 304 00:11:46.149 --> 00:11:48.450 It's awful. So yeah, so that's, that's going to be my, 305 00:11:48.470 --> 00:11:50.870 my challenge Christmas Eve, but I'm sure it'll be fine. 306 00:11:51.269 --> 00:11:54.360 Let us know what you've assembled Christmas Eve. What, Christmas 307 00:11:54.500 --> 00:11:57.519 present style disasters you've had. Rob, would you like to 308 00:11:57.539 --> 00:12:00.019 see a three-year-old with insanely long hair? 309 00:12:00.659 --> 00:12:03.590 Yes, please. Yes, I said you can tell the age 310 00:12:03.610 --> 00:12:04.789 of a kid by how long their hair is. 311 00:12:05.029 --> 00:12:06.830 Yeah, you said you can tell the age of a 312 00:12:06.830 --> 00:12:09.669 kid by how long their hair is. Attached is a 313 00:12:09.710 --> 00:12:12.049 picture of my daughter. How old do you think she is? 314 00:12:12.250 --> 00:12:15.360 Before I guess, Josh, what I was saying was you 315 00:12:15.389 --> 00:12:18.360 can tell if there's two children next to each other, 316 00:12:18.399 --> 00:12:21.429 normally girls... I can tell which one's older. I don't 317 00:12:21.470 --> 00:12:23.070 know if I can necessarily guess the age. 318 00:12:23.470 --> 00:12:23.690 No. 319 00:12:23.710 --> 00:12:24.950 But I'll be able to tell, even if they're the 320 00:12:24.990 --> 00:12:25.409 same height. 321 00:12:25.429 --> 00:12:26.870 It's like the rings on a tree. Exactly. It's like 322 00:12:26.889 --> 00:12:27.649 the rings on a tree. 323 00:12:27.850 --> 00:12:29.690 If they're the same height, I'll be able to tell 324 00:12:29.710 --> 00:12:30.789 who's older by the hair length. 325 00:12:30.970 --> 00:12:31.309 Yeah. 326 00:12:31.330 --> 00:12:34.620 But this girl, oh, wow. I mean, she looks young, 327 00:12:34.659 --> 00:12:36.960 doesn't she? That looks like a wig. That can't be 328 00:12:37.000 --> 00:12:37.759 all her hair. 329 00:12:38.100 --> 00:12:40.799 So this is a picture of my three-year-old. Three? 330 00:12:41.720 --> 00:12:45.399 Three. Honestly, I thought she was a little five-year-old. 331 00:12:45.679 --> 00:12:49.039 She looks like Cousinette. No, no, I mean, that's unfair. But, like, 332 00:12:49.320 --> 00:12:52.899 the hair is as thick and long as Cousinette. But 333 00:12:52.919 --> 00:12:54.000 they've obviously cut the fringe. 334 00:12:54.259 --> 00:12:58.059 That is insane. In three years. She's so cute, this girl. 335 00:12:58.440 --> 00:13:00.179 We've had 12 inches of the hair cut off and 336 00:13:00.200 --> 00:13:02.460 donated to the Little Princess Trust who make wigs for 337 00:13:02.500 --> 00:13:03.679 girls who have cancer. 338 00:13:04.059 --> 00:13:04.500 Oh, wow. 339 00:13:05.019 --> 00:13:06.799 Which is obviously a lovely thing to do. 340 00:13:07.179 --> 00:13:07.639 Yeah. 341 00:13:08.100 --> 00:13:09.870 I wonder... Do you think this means this girl is 342 00:13:09.889 --> 00:13:11.779 just going to have really fast growing hair for the 343 00:13:11.820 --> 00:13:12.639 rest of her life? 344 00:13:12.940 --> 00:13:14.659 I mean, yeah, I think that's just going to, she's 345 00:13:14.700 --> 00:13:16.919 going to spend, it's all fun and games now, but 346 00:13:16.940 --> 00:13:18.889 the money she's going to have to spend at hairdressers. Yeah, 347 00:13:18.929 --> 00:13:19.789 I'll have to go hairdressers. 348 00:13:19.830 --> 00:13:20.029 Why? 349 00:13:20.070 --> 00:13:23.899 I've just tripped over it. It's so thick and so long. 350 00:13:23.960 --> 00:13:27.120 It looks

like, you know, like she's grabbed a drag wig. Yeah. 351 00:13:27.159 --> 00:13:28.059 Do you know what I mean? 352 00:13:28.120 --> 00:13:30.460 And just put it on for fun. I've got questions really. Just, 353 00:13:30.620 --> 00:13:32.659 you know, what do you do with it? When she 354 00:13:32.679 --> 00:13:35.039 goes to preschool and her, is it plaits? Are you 355 00:13:35.059 --> 00:13:36.320 putting it up? You can't put it up in a 356 00:13:36.340 --> 00:13:40.500 messy like bun. It's too much. Or do the parents 357 00:13:40.539 --> 00:13:44.759 have fast growing hair? Is her dad Teen Wolf? Let 358 00:13:44.799 --> 00:13:45.139 us know. 359 00:13:45.230 --> 00:13:47.090 Do get in touch. Do let us know on all 360 00:13:47.110 --> 00:13:47.649 of those things. 361 00:13:47.690 --> 00:13:48.490 Can she slam dunk? 362 00:13:53.480 --> 00:13:53.779 Right. 363 00:13:54.460 --> 00:13:58.620 Steph Collison. This is if you are struggling with taking 364 00:13:58.639 --> 00:14:01.220 the dummies away from your children. This is a story 365 00:14:01.299 --> 00:14:03.259 that might make you feel better about your own experience. 366 00:14:03.720 --> 00:14:06.690 We tried the first time to take her dummy away 367 00:14:06.710 --> 00:14:08.070 when she was two and a half. Did the whole 368 00:14:08.470 --> 00:14:10.850 fairy gift palaver. She got a new doll's house and 369 00:14:10.870 --> 00:14:12.730 was very happy to give up her dummy. The first 370 00:14:12.769 --> 00:14:16.750 two nights she slept like an absolute dream. Couldn't work 371 00:14:16.830 --> 00:14:19.610 out why people thought it was so hard. How stupid 372 00:14:19.690 --> 00:14:22.590 I was. Night three, she woke up crying and wouldn't stop. 373 00:14:22.830 --> 00:14:25.490 She did this every single night. I didn't get more 374 00:14:25.529 --> 00:14:29.350 than two hours sleep a night for almost three months. 375 00:14:29.769 --> 00:14:31.529 Jesus. Just give her the dummy. 376 00:14:31.929 --> 00:14:35.549 Give her the dummy. After my eye twitched, after 57 377 00:14:35.549 --> 00:14:39.460 consecutive days, through sheer exhaustion, I gave her the dummies back. 378 00:14:39.460 --> 00:14:41.139 57 days. 379 00:14:41.480 --> 00:14:45.820 Oh, you've done so well. Because you just sort of think, 380 00:14:46.139 --> 00:14:48.519 I've lost two months of sleep for nothing. 381 00:14:49.100 --> 00:14:51.519 Oh, God. 57 days. 382 00:14:51.519 --> 00:14:54.120 57 days makes it worse. If she said it after 383 00:14:54.139 --> 00:14:56.419 a couple of months, but you know she's counted them. 384 00:14:56.519 --> 00:14:58.580 Yeah. She's now four and a half and has been 385 00:14:58.600 --> 00:15:01.200 dummy free for a year after a third attempt at 386 00:15:01.240 --> 00:15:01.879 taking it away. 387 00:15:01.899 --> 00:15:05.950 I do think, though, with the dummy, there's no point 388 00:15:05.970 --> 00:15:07.409 rushing it. If they really want it and need it, 389 00:15:07.429 --> 00:15:09.990 let them have it. I do think, though, it's quite 390 00:15:10.029 --> 00:15:12.309 good to go like, because I had a dummy until 391 00:15:12.330 --> 00:15:15.129 I was about three, I think, or four. But my 392 00:15:15.169 --> 00:15:17.059 mum and dad said, you can have the dummy, but 393 00:15:17.080 --> 00:15:18.600 you can only have the dummy when you're in your cot. 394 00:15:19.120 --> 00:15:21.960 I think, you know, generally what we found is with 395 00:15:22.059 --> 00:15:25.350 everything that a lot of the things that you're scared 396 00:15:25.389 --> 00:15:29.659 about doing. they just get there naturally and it's actually fine. 397 00:15:29.679 --> 00:15:31.580 Yeah, you don't need to rush it type of thing. 398 00:15:31.600 --> 00:15:33.059 And I think you get so, especially when you're first, 399 00:15:33.179 --> 00:15:34.580 you get so caught up, I've got to get rid 400 00:15:34.600 --> 00:15:35.539 of the dummy, got to get rid of the dummy. 401 00:15:35.559 --> 00:15:37.720 And it's sort of, you're causing you and the kid 402 00:15:37.759 --> 00:15:40.299 unnecessary drama for really, who gives a shit? 403 00:15:40.590 --> 00:15:40.990 Exactly. 404 00:15:41.070 --> 00:15:42.970 We all do weird stuff. Like, you know, if you 405 00:15:43.190 --> 00:15:44.889 still had your parents and were like, we've got to start, 406 00:15:45.009 --> 00:15:47.210 he keeps going to smother himself, keep hiding under that duvet. 407 00:15:47.230 --> 00:15:49.289 Do you know what I mean? But you're a grown up, 408 00:15:49.309 --> 00:15:51.690 you make your choices and you shuffle down. I ain't 409 00:15:51.710 --> 00:15:52.230 going to judge you. 410 00:15:54.379 --> 00:15:57.379 I think the last thing we've probably got not to do, 411 00:15:57.419 --> 00:16:00.039 that's the wrong word, but the last kind of thing 412 00:16:00.240 --> 00:16:03.460 would be nappies at night. And it just feels like 413 00:16:03.500 --> 00:16:06.299 there's no, we're not going to put any pressure on 414 00:16:06.360 --> 00:16:07.860 this or make it. 415 00:16:07.879 --> 00:16:07.950 Why? 416 00:16:09.250 --> 00:16:11.309 So much of the pressure put on those things. And 417 00:16:11.350 --> 00:16:13.590 I think a part of it was like with me, 418 00:16:13.629 --> 00:16:16.049 with the dummy was a bit like that was like, 419 00:16:16.789 --> 00:16:19.769 you feel like a kind of societal pressure, don't you? 420 00:16:19.870 --> 00:16:20.090 Yes. 421 00:16:20.149 --> 00:16:20.450 I think. 422 00:16:20.690 --> 00:16:23.299 Yeah, exactly. But, you know, and I think it's just, 423 00:16:24.129 --> 00:16:25.860 not putting too much pressure on you or the kid, 424 00:16:25.879 --> 00:16:27.860 because if it's making them happy and they're cool with it. 425 00:16:28.220 --> 00:16:31.629 And with the nappy thing, we don't have nappies in 426 00:16:31.649 --> 00:16:34.649 the night now at all for the three-year-old. And that 427 00:16:34.669 --> 00:16:35.889 was

because she went, I don't want to wear a nappy, 428 00:16:35.909 --> 00:16:38.159 it's scratchy. So he said, wear the nappy, but if 429 00:16:38.200 --> 00:16:40.419 you don't do a wee-wee in the nappy, Then if 430 00:16:40.440 --> 00:16:42.919 you do that for, we said like a few nights 431 00:16:42.980 --> 00:16:44.919 in a row, then you can have no nappy. So 432 00:16:45.019 --> 00:16:47.080 in the end she was like, okay. And then she 433 00:16:47.220 --> 00:16:48.980 did have a dry nappy for like about a week 434 00:16:49.019 --> 00:16:50.519 and a half, two weeks in a row. All right, 435 00:16:50.580 --> 00:16:51.899 then we'll take it off. Now she doesn't have one, 436 00:16:52.220 --> 00:16:54.720 but it's like we allowed her to tell us she 437 00:16:54.740 --> 00:16:56.320 didn't want to wear it anymore. They've got to be 438 00:16:56.360 --> 00:16:58.679 into not having a nappy in the night because otherwise 439 00:16:58.740 --> 00:17:00.250 it's just a mess. And then they're going to get 440 00:17:00.259 --> 00:17:02.649 embarrassed and stressed. You're going to get tired and stressed. 441 00:17:02.690 --> 00:17:04.250 You're going to have to keep changing the beds and 442 00:17:04.269 --> 00:17:06.099 the sheets and stuff. There's no rush for it. 443 00:17:06.250 --> 00:17:06.710 Totally. 444 00:17:06.809 --> 00:17:09.549 I've never met anyone who's, 27 still wearing a nappy 445 00:17:09.569 --> 00:17:10.650 at night just in case. 446 00:17:10.849 --> 00:17:12.609 You got to 23 didn't you yes. 447 00:17:12.470 --> 00:17:13.930 Exactly and then i thought i've got to make a 448 00:17:13.970 --> 00:17:20.220 change and i did i've got a couple of uh 449 00:17:20.299 --> 00:17:22.960 instagram messages yeah one's about we're gonna we're gonna go 450 00:17:22.980 --> 00:17:24.140 through them and get some more in because some of 451 00:17:24.160 --> 00:17:26.660 these are from quite old um episodes but it's still 452 00:17:26.680 --> 00:17:29.920 quite funny this one's um about having kids close together 453 00:17:30.349 --> 00:17:32.630 great podcast guys we've got a 22 month old and 454 00:17:32.650 --> 00:17:35.059 a four month old Just a quick story. We were 455 00:17:35.099 --> 00:17:37.599 told by our midwife that when having the first, be careful, 456 00:17:37.700 --> 00:17:40.460 it's easy to get pregnant again straight away after chat. 457 00:17:41.200 --> 00:17:43.529 One of her families had to have IVF and fell 458 00:17:43.549 --> 00:17:47.529 pregnant with triplets. Okay, so that's good though. You're on IVF, 459 00:17:47.569 --> 00:17:50.109 it's expensive, you've got all three. You're tapping out after that, 460 00:17:50.130 --> 00:17:50.789 you'd think, wouldn't you? 461 00:17:51.250 --> 00:17:51.430 Yeah. 462 00:17:51.710 --> 00:17:56.119 Yeah? So after they were born... She was round and 463 00:17:56.220 --> 00:17:58.799 having the same chat about, be careful. I know you 464 00:17:58.819 --> 00:18:01.539 went through IVF, but you can get pregnant really quickly 465 00:18:02.000 --> 00:18:05.519 after having kids. They laughed it off, say, there's no chance. 466 00:18:05.940 --> 00:18:08.140 We've had to have IVF, so we doubt it would 467 00:18:08.180 --> 00:18:11.259 happen that easily. And we've ended up with triplies, so 468 00:18:11.299 --> 00:18:15.849 we'd rather stop there. Two and a half months later, 469 00:18:16.569 --> 00:18:20.269 guess who's pregnant with twins? Five children under the age 470 00:18:20.309 --> 00:18:20.650 of one. 471 00:18:21.210 --> 00:18:26.079 Oh, my God. Oh, my word. Wow. 472 00:18:26.539 --> 00:18:27.859 Wow. Five under one. 473 00:18:28.319 --> 00:18:29.640 Five under one. 474 00:18:29.660 --> 00:18:32.579 I think that's worse than having five at once. Do 475 00:18:32.839 --> 00:18:35.160 you know what I mean? Because at least if you've 476 00:18:35.180 --> 00:18:37.180 got five at once, they're all at the same stage. 477 00:18:37.559 --> 00:18:40.799 But imagine having one just nine months behind. Oh, my God. 478 00:18:40.819 --> 00:18:44.069 Oh, my God. I genuinely, before I had kids, I 479 00:18:44.160 --> 00:18:46.430 used to think twins would probably be the dream scenario 480 00:18:46.450 --> 00:18:48.069 because you just bash them out. Do you know what 481 00:18:48.089 --> 00:18:48.990 I mean? And it would be like. 482 00:18:49.369 --> 00:18:50.390 Bash them out. 483 00:18:50.509 --> 00:18:52.150 But you've got two kids for the price of one. 484 00:18:52.230 --> 00:18:55.630 But actually, five in a. Oh my word. 485 00:18:56.250 --> 00:18:58.390 Five under one. Could you imagine that? 486 00:18:58.410 --> 00:18:59.230 Five under one. 487 00:18:59.259 --> 00:19:01.920 It's just, you'd have to get, you'd have to get help. 488 00:19:01.980 --> 00:19:03.940 You can't do that. You can't, I could look after 489 00:19:04.000 --> 00:19:04.819 five kids on my own. 490 00:19:05.319 --> 00:19:05.400 No. 491 00:19:05.420 --> 00:19:06.240 I barely could do one. 492 00:19:06.500 --> 00:19:08.980 I was talking to my friend who works on Last Leg. 493 00:19:09.240 --> 00:19:12.079 He's got three. And I was like, I was like, oh, 494 00:19:12.099 --> 00:19:13.519 what are you up to this weekend? And he was like, 495 00:19:13.900 --> 00:19:16.180 I have my wife's working. So I'm just going one 496 00:19:16.240 --> 00:19:19.920 on three. And I genuinely, I just couldn't even comprehend 497 00:19:20.000 --> 00:19:22.660 that at the moment as one kid. I know loads 498 00:19:22.700 --> 00:19:24.750 of people do it, but I was like, How the 499 00:19:24.789 --> 00:19:26.710 fuck do you do that? You know, when you like 500 00:19:26.769 --> 00:19:29.349 hear about like Dolly Parton's one of, what is she, 501 00:19:29.390 --> 00:19:32.579 one of 12 or something mad like that? What's your day? 502 00:19:32.599 --> 00:19:35.240 Well, I think when there's 12, when there's 12, the 503 00:19:35.400 --> 00:19:37.539 eldest starts looking after the kids for

you because they 504 00:19:37.559 --> 00:19:40.039 want to feel they, you know, I think that's what happens, right? 505 00:19:40.319 --> 00:19:42.339 You have a 13 year old that's basically doing a 506 00:19:42.359 --> 00:19:45.670 lot of the work. Having one kid changes your lifestyle completely, right? 507 00:19:46.009 --> 00:19:49.789 But going from one to two absolutely sort of screws 508 00:19:49.809 --> 00:19:52.730 you with like it's this you're just split completely between 509 00:19:52.769 --> 00:19:54.869 them so I think from two to three isn't that 510 00:19:54.890 --> 00:19:56.890 big a jump as from one to two it is 511 00:19:56.950 --> 00:19:59.650 harder work obviously having three kids but you're just used 512 00:19:59.670 --> 00:20:01.680 to that's just what what's happening and by that point 513 00:20:01.720 --> 00:20:04.400 your house is running a family home that has children 514 00:20:04.440 --> 00:20:06.160 in it but when you have your first one it's 515 00:20:06.180 --> 00:20:08.970 like a couple's house that turns into a kid's And 516 00:20:09.009 --> 00:20:11.150 then when the second one comes on, they start outnumbering you. 517 00:20:11.380 --> 00:20:11.640 Yeah. 518 00:20:12.500 --> 00:20:15.200 I've got an Instagram here that's quite funny about pronouncing 519 00:20:15.240 --> 00:20:18.339 things wrong. Hi, guys. Love the podcast. Definitely helped during 520 00:20:18.359 --> 00:20:20.619 lockdown as I have a seven-year-old and a one-year-old turning 521 00:20:20.700 --> 00:20:22.940 eight and two in October. They've just turned then. This 522 00:20:22.980 --> 00:20:27.829 is how backdated we are with admin, Josh. This must 523 00:20:27.869 --> 00:20:30.529 have been said in September. I listened to Rob's elephant 524 00:20:30.589 --> 00:20:33.029 trunk story and thought I'd share ours. That was when 525 00:20:33.049 --> 00:20:33.930 my daughter said it. 526 00:20:34.049 --> 00:20:34.490 Quite rude. 527 00:20:35.240 --> 00:20:37.299 Our youngest, Ellis, is a boy who loves cars and 528 00:20:37.319 --> 00:20:39.680 we are trying to teach him colours. So thought best 529 00:20:39.700 --> 00:20:43.190 to combine the two to help his concentration. Now, we 530 00:20:43.230 --> 00:20:47.130 know he's saying white car. He is definitely saying white car. 531 00:20:47.369 --> 00:20:49.339 But all anyone else hears at the top of his 532 00:20:49.380 --> 00:20:54.589 voice is one car. Wanker. Wanker. As he points at 533 00:20:54.609 --> 00:20:56.829 the offending vehicle. As in, we are hoping he gets 534 00:20:56.869 --> 00:21:00.170 his pronunciation through soon as a dread white car's going past. 535 00:21:01.569 --> 00:21:03.269 Especially with a window open in the summer. 536 00:21:03.309 --> 00:21:03.569 Wanker. 537 00:21:03.609 --> 00:21:04.289 What was that? 538 00:21:04.369 --> 00:21:04.809 Oh, nothing. 539 00:21:05.829 --> 00:21:07.109 If you've got anything you want to get in touch, 540 00:21:07.130 --> 00:21:07.849 this is how. 541 00:21:09.390 --> 00:21:15.230 Email us hello at lockdownparenting.co.uk or tweet us at lockdownparents 542 00:21:15.650 --> 00:21:20.130 or Instagram lockdown underscore parenting and you can also send 543 00:21:20.210 --> 00:21:25.970 us stuff P.O. Box 76748, London E99DW. 544 00:21:31.640 --> 00:21:32.839 Right, Rob, who have we got on today? 545 00:21:33.039 --> 00:21:36.019 We have the wonderful Sindhu V, a very funny comedian. 546 00:21:36.160 --> 00:21:38.339 And I did Jonathan Ross with her the other week. 547 00:21:38.359 --> 00:21:39.920 She was really, really funny on that as well. And 548 00:21:39.940 --> 00:21:41.960 it was a great interview. And she's a very different 549 00:21:42.019 --> 00:21:44.099 kind of parent, isn't she, to what we are? 550 00:21:44.119 --> 00:21:48.079 Very different. Very different. Far more in control of the 551 00:21:48.099 --> 00:21:49.349 situation than I am. 552 00:21:49.609 --> 00:21:49.970 This is. 553 00:21:50.849 --> 00:21:55.269 Sindhu V. Hello, Sindhu V. 554 00:21:55.549 --> 00:21:56.269 Hello, Josh. 555 00:21:56.529 --> 00:21:57.930 Sindhu, what's your setup at home? 556 00:21:58.349 --> 00:22:02.170 Okay, I've got three kids, three kids, two dogs, two 557 00:22:02.230 --> 00:22:06.150 now that we got a puppy in quarantine, because why not? 558 00:22:06.410 --> 00:22:08.470 One husband and two turtles. 559 00:22:10.650 --> 00:22:11.799 What a twist at the end. 560 00:22:12.900 --> 00:22:14.740 And how old are they? They are. 561 00:22:15.900 --> 00:22:17.680 Uh, so I'm going to say this on the podcast 562 00:22:17.700 --> 00:22:20.079 and it's crazy. I, because I speak a lot about 563 00:22:20.099 --> 00:22:22.140 the children on stage, I have a habit of being 564 00:22:22.279 --> 00:22:26.150 vague about their genders, like, and their ages. I just 565 00:22:26.190 --> 00:22:28.450 think if I get too specific, it gets too real. 566 00:22:28.609 --> 00:22:28.869 Okay. 567 00:22:29.130 --> 00:22:31.769 Um, so I have two teenagers. They're in the advanced 568 00:22:32.150 --> 00:22:35.690 years of teenage. And I've got one who is quite 569 00:22:35.769 --> 00:22:44.099 far away from being a teen. Yeah. I always wanted 570 00:22:44.130 --> 00:22:46.400 a lot of children. Then I had two and I 571 00:22:46.400 --> 00:22:49.480 was like, God damn, this is hard. And so I 572 00:22:49.480 --> 00:22:52.250 just was like, holy shit. And I kind of was 573 00:22:52.269 --> 00:22:55.819 just thought that's enough, you know? And then when that 574 00:22:56.180 --> 00:22:59.079 wore off, I don't know why it wore off, but 575 00:22:59.160 --> 00:23:01.720 it did. I was like, oh my gosh, what about 576 00:23:01.789 --> 00:23:03.400 all the children I was going to have? And so 577 00:23:03.420 --> 00:23:05.950 I had another one. And I learned that three is 578 00:23:05.990 --> 00:23:07.930 what tips you right over the edge. 579 00:23:08.170 --> 00:23:08.690 Oh, really? 580 00:23:08.910 -->

00:23:10.650 And you use the will to live, let alone have 581 00:23:10.690 --> 00:23:11.230 other kids. 582 00:23:11.569 --> 00:23:12.950 So how many did you imagine you were going to 583 00:23:12.970 --> 00:23:13.670 have originally? 584 00:23:13.750 --> 00:23:14.109 Oh, four. 585 00:23:14.170 --> 00:23:15.009 I wanted four children. 586 00:23:15.190 --> 00:23:15.670 Four. 587 00:23:15.690 --> 00:23:17.769 Wow. I wanted four. Yeah, I wanted four. I always did. 588 00:23:17.789 --> 00:23:19.730 Even when I was very young, I remember saying to 589 00:23:19.769 --> 00:23:21.250 my mother, I'm going to have four kids. And she 590 00:23:21.269 --> 00:23:23.990 would say, you will not even get married if you 591 00:23:24.039 --> 00:23:27.740 keep on behaving like you are behaving. The job that 592 00:23:27.779 --> 00:23:31.569 I had, which was investment banking... it's very incompatible with 593 00:23:31.630 --> 00:23:34.299 being the kind of mother it turned out I wanted 594 00:23:34.359 --> 00:23:36.400 to be. I never thought I would want to be 595 00:23:36.440 --> 00:23:38.960 that kind of mom. I thought I would be, I 596 00:23:39.000 --> 00:23:42.000 always wanted to be a mom, but my boss had 597 00:23:42.140 --> 00:23:44.579 five children in banking and she had a stay at 598 00:23:44.619 --> 00:23:47.200 home husband and three nannies. So I thought, well, I 599 00:23:47.240 --> 00:23:48.859 don't have a stay at home husband, but if you can, 600 00:23:48.980 --> 00:23:51.009 I'll just get a net, I'll just get nannies. You 601 00:23:51.029 --> 00:23:53.789 know what I mean? And what didn't, what I had 602 00:23:54.230 --> 00:23:58.289 no expectation of was that I would have my kid and, uh, 603 00:23:59.200 --> 00:24:01.109 And then that I would change so much because I 604 00:24:01.160 --> 00:24:03.549 had him and I took my full maternity leave and 605 00:24:03.569 --> 00:24:05.390 I was desperate to get back to work because I 606 00:24:05.430 --> 00:24:08.869 really liked my job. But the moment I got to work, 607 00:24:09.109 --> 00:24:12.359 I didn't care about deals. I wasn't hungry anymore. I 608 00:24:12.599 --> 00:24:15.940 just wasn't. No, I bet. Well, a lot of my 609 00:24:15.980 --> 00:24:19.380 friends were, they were, you know, and I, it turned 610 00:24:19.500 --> 00:24:23.220 out that if you're not hungry, then being on a 611 00:24:23.279 --> 00:24:26.009 trading floor becomes a real mind fuck. 612 00:24:26.130 --> 00:24:26.369 Yeah. 613 00:24:26.799 --> 00:24:28.720 You have to have a certain attitude of like. 614 00:24:28.740 --> 00:24:29.599 Go, go, go, go, go. 615 00:24:29.640 --> 00:24:31.839 And all I could think about was, you know, my 616 00:24:31.880 --> 00:24:34.960 son is teething or, you know, I wonder what he's doing. 617 00:24:35.000 --> 00:24:37.819 And I just was like, I was not happy. And 618 00:24:37.839 --> 00:24:40.589 then they were very good to me. They changed my job. 619 00:24:41.150 --> 00:24:42.910 I was the

first woman for whom they created a 620 00:24:42.950 --> 00:24:46.029 three-day week on the trading floor front office. But, you know, 621 00:24:46.049 --> 00:24:49.069 I didn't grow up wanting to be in banking. See, 622 00:24:49.089 --> 00:24:50.730 I was doing something very different. I think that's a 623 00:24:50.769 --> 00:24:53.089 sign is that when you have a child at so 624 00:24:53.130 --> 00:24:55.619 many levels, you go back to your roots, right? Whether 625 00:24:55.640 --> 00:24:58.519 it's culturally or the family roots you come from or 626 00:24:58.599 --> 00:25:01.009 whatever your ambitions were. Yeah. So it didn't work. So 627 00:25:01.089 --> 00:25:03.569 I quit. I did such crazy rock and roll shit. 628 00:25:03.609 --> 00:25:05.190 I made the firm do so many things. You know, 629 00:25:05.230 --> 00:25:07.630 I had to take my clients. I used to cover 630 00:25:07.650 --> 00:25:10.210 the US dollar market, but I used to cover clients 631 00:25:10.289 --> 00:25:14.450 in Europe. And I had to take all my clients 632 00:25:14.470 --> 00:25:18.309 to New York one time and to see Freddie Mac 633 00:25:18.349 --> 00:25:21.349 and Fannie Mae, whatever, mortgage bonds, blah, blah, blah. And 634 00:25:21.650 --> 00:25:23.049 I said, I'm not going to travel without my kid. 635 00:25:23.069 --> 00:25:24.869 I remember he was 11 months old. And I told 636 00:25:24.890 --> 00:25:26.470 my boss, I said, I'm not going without him. And 637 00:25:26.509 --> 00:25:27.710 he was like, and he said to me, who do 638 00:25:27.730 --> 00:25:32.339 you think you are? Madonna? You can't travel on the 639 00:25:32.420 --> 00:25:35.799 road with help and a kid. And so I was like, 640 00:25:35.819 --> 00:25:37.140 I don't care. I'm not going to go. So they 641 00:25:37.180 --> 00:25:38.720 were so nice. They were like, fine. 642 00:25:38.740 --> 00:25:41.829 Shut the hell up. Cindy, were you the best trader 643 00:25:41.869 --> 00:25:42.569 there ever was? 644 00:25:42.670 --> 00:25:46.019 No, no, I wasn't. No, I wasn't. But what it was, 645 00:25:46.150 --> 00:25:48.200 I was by no means, I was not even a trader, 646 00:25:48.220 --> 00:25:50.279 I was in sales. But what it was, was this. 647 00:25:50.539 --> 00:25:53.079 And I think this is a very important thing. It 648 00:25:53.160 --> 00:25:55.180 was a road trip. So I would have been gone, 649 00:25:55.220 --> 00:25:57.839 I was gone about two weeks. And the second thing was, 650 00:25:58.180 --> 00:26:01.519 it was an important road trip. And my clients liked me. 651 00:26:01.779 --> 00:26:04.369 And I think my boss, because he had several kids, 652 00:26:04.750 --> 00:26:07.509 I think he had this idea that if we keep 653 00:26:07.589 --> 00:26:10.519 cutting women out when they talk about their kids, we're 654 00:26:10.539 --> 00:26:14.079 going to end up with shitty salespeople because often it's 655 00:26:14.099 --> 00:26:16.099 a good salesperson you have to let go. But I 656 00:26:16.140 -->

00:26:18.569 will say one thing. I will say that at that time, 657 00:26:19.470 --> 00:26:22.990 I think there was more openness. to this idea in 658 00:26:23.150 --> 00:26:27.160 Europe that somehow you try and accommodate women and children 659 00:26:27.180 --> 00:26:29.799 than there was on Wall Street. Because when I was 660 00:26:29.819 --> 00:26:33.059 in America, it really felt like I was doing something crazy. 661 00:26:33.740 --> 00:26:37.059 Whereas here, people were like, oh, that's cool. Not like, 662 00:26:37.240 --> 00:26:40.349 are you high? That wasn't the vibe. But it was 663 00:26:40.390 --> 00:26:40.890 a great trip. 664 00:26:40.930 --> 00:26:43.730 I guess Europeans, especially in Spain and Italy, are way 665 00:26:43.750 --> 00:26:46.390 more family-focused than in North America. Yeah. 666 00:26:47.210 --> 00:26:49.519 Well, yeah, I think when it comes to work and 667 00:26:49.559 --> 00:26:52.079 women and finance, it's like pick a lane, you know, 668 00:26:52.259 --> 00:26:54.519 in Wall Street, it's like pick a lane. And I think, 669 00:26:55.279 --> 00:26:57.599 I think the UK is second. And then after that 670 00:26:57.640 --> 00:27:00.200 is the rest of Europe. And I think the UK 671 00:27:00.819 --> 00:27:03.119 has been trying to get it right. And I think 672 00:27:03.140 --> 00:27:04.819 they have got it. I mean, things are very, very 673 00:27:04.859 --> 00:27:07.509 different now than when I was there. But no, it 674 00:27:07.529 --> 00:27:09.710 was such a crazy trip. And I will say that 675 00:27:10.089 --> 00:27:13.990 mental health wise, it was probably not the best thing 676 00:27:14.069 --> 00:27:18.859 to do. fully focused i never slept everyone was jet 677 00:27:18.900 --> 00:27:22.420 lagged the baby was jet lagged you know um the 678 00:27:22.579 --> 00:27:25.049 the indian nanny i took with me stopped speaking i 679 00:27:25.069 --> 00:27:30.589 thought she had a breakdown um i thought she'd had 680 00:27:30.609 --> 00:27:32.190 a psychotic break. 681 00:27:34.670 --> 00:27:38.460 So then you started stand up when your daughters when 682 00:27:38.480 --> 00:27:41.359 your children the older ones were teenagers is that right. 683 00:27:42.079 --> 00:27:44.700 Uh, yeah, two were in double figures and one was 684 00:27:44.759 --> 00:27:45.240 very young. 685 00:27:45.440 --> 00:27:47.009 And how did the kids react to that? 686 00:27:47.269 --> 00:27:51.109 Well, Josh, for the longest time I was doing open 687 00:27:51.150 --> 00:27:54.410 mic in, you know, butt fuck. They didn't know what 688 00:27:54.430 --> 00:27:57.049 I was doing. They were like, you're not really, anyway, 689 00:27:57.089 --> 00:27:59.329 I never read good night stories and all that because 690 00:27:59.369 --> 00:28:01.190 they don't do in India. And I thought it was 691 00:28:01.210 --> 00:28:03.150 always so tedious. So it's not like they missed that. 692 00:28:03.430 --> 00:28:04.430 But what about bath time? 693 00:28:04.730 -->

00:28:06.680 No, bath time? No, they have a bath. What am 694 00:28:06.700 --> 00:28:07.880 I going to do? I mean, of course, they're not 695 00:28:07.920 --> 00:28:10.079 that small. When they were small, I was in the bath. 696 00:28:10.140 --> 00:28:11.519 I didn't want them to drown. But as soon as 697 00:28:11.539 --> 00:28:12.660 they could have a bath, I was like, go have 698 00:28:12.680 --> 00:28:13.359 a shower. What are you doing? 699 00:28:13.380 --> 00:28:14.819 So what age would you let them shower alone? 700 00:28:15.220 --> 00:28:17.960 You know, when they were like a reasonable age, whatever, like, 701 00:28:18.369 --> 00:28:20.289 I don't know, six, seven. One of my kids had 702 00:28:20.309 --> 00:28:22.190 a habit of going into the shower and coming back 703 00:28:22.329 --> 00:28:26.309 and coming out and with a totally dry face. And 704 00:28:26.349 --> 00:28:30.970 I'd be like, who are you kidding? I was like, 705 00:28:31.009 --> 00:28:33.230 how is this possible? He said, no, mommy, I did. 706 00:28:33.269 --> 00:28:35.690 I said, you did not. Come on, dude. Come on. 707 00:28:36.309 --> 00:28:39.170 And then by the time it was like, really the 708 00:28:39.210 --> 00:28:42.710 only time your kids know is when they're friends or 709 00:28:42.750 --> 00:28:45.230 you're on YouTube or TV. I mean, otherwise, how do 710 00:28:45.250 --> 00:28:48.470 they know? They don't. And I think for me that 711 00:28:48.529 --> 00:28:51.470 was probably, I think it was maybe when I did 712 00:28:52.299 --> 00:28:54.759 Have I Got News For You, which I did very early. Maybe, 713 00:28:54.839 --> 00:28:57.539 I don't know, very early and it just happened. And 714 00:28:58.420 --> 00:29:01.609 I think my son, he said, He asked me, where 715 00:29:01.630 --> 00:29:03.450 you on, have I got news for you? And I said, yes. 716 00:29:03.490 --> 00:29:06.390 He said his science teacher had asked him. And he said, 717 00:29:06.430 --> 00:29:08.490 I said no to him. And I said, why? And 718 00:29:08.529 --> 00:29:10.410 he's like, why would you be on TV? 719 00:29:10.430 --> 00:29:15.000 That is a real confidence booster. 720 00:29:15.799 --> 00:29:15.900 Yeah. 721 00:29:15.920 --> 00:29:17.400 But I think the other thing is I didn't like, 722 00:29:17.599 --> 00:29:19.500 I didn't choose to talk about it at home really, 723 00:29:19.700 --> 00:29:22.539 because I just, it's just something I did that was not, 724 00:29:23.160 --> 00:29:24.880 you know, like for the kids, I was, because I 725 00:29:24.900 --> 00:29:26.880 was still always a full on mom. I was still 726 00:29:26.900 --> 00:29:29.339 taking them to school. waking them up, going to see 727 00:29:29.380 --> 00:29:32.640 their football, packing their lunch, who has the time in 728 00:29:33.160 --> 00:29:35.950 between telling them to stop beating each other up and 729 00:29:35.990 --> 00:29:37.529 get their shit together and get in the car to 730 00:29:37.569 --> 00:29:39.900 be like, oh,

by the way, I'm doing standup. Like who, who? 731 00:29:42.339 --> 00:29:45.140 You know, and I'm very, I've always been quite demanding 732 00:29:45.299 --> 00:29:48.680 academically of the children. So by and large, they don't 733 00:29:48.720 --> 00:29:49.420 like to talk to me. 734 00:29:49.440 --> 00:29:51.849 Are you quite stern, mother? Like quite strict? 735 00:29:52.430 --> 00:29:54.309 I mean, I'm told I'm strict. 736 00:29:54.450 --> 00:29:54.849 Who by? 737 00:29:55.470 --> 00:29:57.529 Everybody in the house. Yeah. 738 00:29:58.460 --> 00:30:01.019 What about other kids of friends and family? Have there 739 00:30:01.039 --> 00:30:03.539 been things you don't like going on in your house 740 00:30:03.640 --> 00:30:05.779 and you've had to impose your stricter rules on other kids? 741 00:30:06.759 --> 00:30:09.200 I wouldn't do that to other people's kids in our home. 742 00:30:09.359 --> 00:30:12.640 If they come, they behave badly. They're my guests. They can. 743 00:30:13.160 --> 00:30:16.289 You will see my kids looking at me in utter panic. Like, 744 00:30:17.089 --> 00:30:22.150 oh my God. And they look at me in like, 745 00:30:22.250 --> 00:30:25.769 they're like terrorized because they know what it means to me. 746 00:30:25.849 --> 00:30:29.789 But they've also understood... We have a phrase in Sanskrit, 747 00:30:29.950 --> 00:30:35.329 which is, which is the guest comes as God. So 748 00:30:35.369 --> 00:30:37.579 you do never criticize your guests. You know what I mean? 749 00:30:37.640 --> 00:30:40.299 No matter what. But when they leave, I look at 750 00:30:40.339 --> 00:30:43.640 the kids and they're like, we know, we got it. 751 00:30:43.960 --> 00:30:44.599 We saw it. 752 00:30:46.059 --> 00:30:49.559 But I think there's a very strong code with the children, 753 00:30:50.369 --> 00:30:52.329 you know, about what's done and what's not done. 754 00:30:52.869 --> 00:30:56.029 So when you say, because you obviously, you, You didn't 755 00:30:56.069 --> 00:30:57.789 do the bed, you don't do the bedtime stories. What 756 00:30:57.809 --> 00:31:01.589 are the other British, not parenting traditions, but kind of 757 00:31:01.650 --> 00:31:05.470 parenting norms that you find kind of baffling like that 758 00:31:05.569 --> 00:31:06.210 or just like? 759 00:31:06.819 --> 00:31:08.660 Well, I mean, baffling, you know, I do know, I 760 00:31:08.740 --> 00:31:10.900 can see why you guys tell stories and it's nice. 761 00:31:10.960 --> 00:31:12.480 I just, I'm like, I'm not fucking doing it. 762 00:31:12.480 --> 00:31:13.039 Yeah. 763 00:31:14.630 --> 00:31:16.569 I just, it's not even like a bad baffling. 764 00:31:16.849 --> 00:31:19.640 I'll rephrase the question. What other things are you not 765 00:31:19.660 --> 00:31:20.279 fucking doing? 766 00:31:23.440 --> 00:31:26.359 I don't, what else do I not do? I don't 767 00:31:26.559 --> 00:31:27.920 really play with them. 768 00:31:28.220 --> 00:31:28.579 Okay. 769 00:31:28.920 --> 00:31:30.900 Like I play, they're around me playing. 770 00:31:31.440 --> 00:31:31.569 Yeah. 771 00:31:31.589 --> 00:31:33.049 Like now I play with them because I've taught all 772 00:31:33.069 --> 00:31:35.329 of them how to play Rummy and three card poker. 773 00:31:35.369 --> 00:31:41.029 That's fine. But I won't play like fucking, you know, Legos, man. No, no, no, no, no, no. 774 00:31:41.109 --> 00:31:42.849 I've been a kid. I did all this. 775 00:31:43.299 --> 00:31:45.420 But don't you find that nostalgia going back to those 776 00:31:45.480 --> 00:31:48.000 games and doing something together? Don't you get a buzz 777 00:31:48.019 --> 00:31:48.440 from that? 778 00:31:48.920 --> 00:31:50.740 No, but I do other kid things with them. Like, 779 00:31:50.759 --> 00:31:54.039 for example, you know, I've always had, I've always been 780 00:31:54.059 --> 00:31:58.880 a little, I've always been a little bit cavalier with 781 00:31:58.900 --> 00:32:00.319 this bedtime business, you know? 782 00:32:00.859 --> 00:32:01.200 Oh, yeah. 783 00:32:01.579 --> 00:32:01.900 Yeah. 784 00:32:02.259 --> 00:32:03.920 When they were very little, then you have to because 785 00:32:03.940 --> 00:32:06.619 you need a routine. But like, say when they're four, five, six, seven, 786 00:32:06.640 --> 00:32:09.369 like when they've started school. I mean, before they go 787 00:32:09.390 --> 00:32:10.950 to nursery, I don't care when you sleep. When you 788 00:32:10.970 --> 00:32:12.509 fall asleep, I'll pick you up where you are and 789 00:32:12.529 --> 00:32:15.309 then that's it. Thank you. But if we're going out 790 00:32:15.569 --> 00:32:18.309 and you're going to be sleepy and then, you know, misbehave, 791 00:32:18.490 --> 00:32:20.490 then we have like, don't do that either. So my 792 00:32:20.529 --> 00:32:22.609 husband is like, you have no rules. These kids just 793 00:32:22.650 --> 00:32:25.450 have to adapt. I'm like, yeah, that's pretty much right. 794 00:32:26.049 --> 00:32:28.750 But every once in a while, you know, there'll be 795 00:32:28.829 --> 00:32:30.789 something we want to do. Like there'll be a TV 796 00:32:30.849 --> 00:32:32.970 show that we all want to watch. And it's like 797 00:32:33.029 --> 00:32:35.410 past our bedtime. I'm like, screw the bedtime. Let's watch. 798 00:32:36.039 --> 00:32:37.440 Or like, you know, if there's a movie that we 799 00:32:37.480 --> 00:32:39.240 really want to watch and somehow we can't watch on 800 00:32:39.269 --> 00:32:41.549 the weekend, I'm like, let's watch it now. The one 801 00:32:41.650 --> 00:32:45.329 thing that I, and I don't have many rules around 802 00:32:45.410 --> 00:32:48.390 like dessert and ice cream and whatever, like that's fine. 803 00:32:48.410 --> 00:32:50.529 It's in the fridge or we have this, eat it, 804 00:32:50.869 --> 00:32:52.549 you know, like just use some sense. 805 00:32:52.630 --> 00:32:54.269 So would you say you let the small things go, 806 00:32:54.390 --> 00:32:56.690 but

big things you come down on them quite hard? 807 00:32:57.160 --> 00:32:57.779 I think so. 808 00:32:57.839 --> 00:33:01.420 I mean, you see kids, the things that kids do, 809 00:33:01.480 --> 00:33:04.220 which are interesting to both kids and me, I'm there. 810 00:33:05.089 --> 00:33:07.589 I'm there. Like I took my children alone when they 811 00:33:07.630 --> 00:33:10.490 were four and two to Disneyland by myself. 812 00:33:10.650 --> 00:33:11.430 Oh my God. 813 00:33:11.690 --> 00:33:13.690 All the way to Los Angeles. 814 00:33:13.930 --> 00:33:14.490 From London? 815 00:33:14.880 --> 00:33:17.240 Well, I went from London to Atlanta to attend my 816 00:33:17.279 --> 00:33:19.960 cousin's wedding, which was a great wedding, by the way. 817 00:33:20.339 --> 00:33:21.839 And then from there, I was like, well, I'm not 818 00:33:21.859 --> 00:33:23.440 going back to London. We're already here. So I was like, 819 00:33:23.460 --> 00:33:24.799 let's go to LA. And my husband was like, I 820 00:33:24.819 --> 00:33:26.180 can't do it. I'm like, that's fine. I got this. 821 00:33:26.440 --> 00:33:28.119 So there's those kinds of things, which I think a 822 00:33:28.140 --> 00:33:29.700 lot of adults are like, are you crazy? I'm like, no, 823 00:33:29.720 --> 00:33:30.099 it'll be fine. 824 00:33:30.140 --> 00:33:30.880 It'll be fine. I'll be fine. 825 00:33:30.920 --> 00:33:32.259 And we had a great time. The other thing I 826 00:33:32.319 --> 00:33:33.339 used to do, which the kids. 827 00:33:34.769 --> 00:33:37.230 Later told me they had never heard of anyone doing 828 00:33:37.269 --> 00:33:43.509 was I really like Pixar. Okay. Like really. So when 829 00:33:43.549 --> 00:33:46.009 the first few Pixar movies came out, they used to 830 00:33:46.049 --> 00:33:48.369 be one every 18 months. Like when these, when my 831 00:33:48.410 --> 00:33:52.170 teens were young, I used to not want to go 832 00:33:52.250 --> 00:33:54.569 on the weekend because everyone brought their kids and kids 833 00:33:54.589 --> 00:33:57.150 would talk and it would be like a kiddie movie event. 834 00:33:57.539 --> 00:33:58.930 And I'm like, I don't have fucking time for this. 835 00:33:58.990 --> 00:34:01.660 So I used to go on the first day that 836 00:34:01.700 --> 00:34:04.099 the movie came out, which is usually a Thursday or Friday. 837 00:34:04.940 --> 00:34:06.680 And I would go to the school. I did this 838 00:34:06.700 --> 00:34:09.340 with both of them. Go to the school, tell the 839 00:34:09.380 --> 00:34:11.880 school there was a dental appointment or something. Get the 840 00:34:11.920 --> 00:34:13.969 kid out of class. And the middle of the day, 841 00:34:14.010 --> 00:34:14.829 we would go to the movies. 842 00:34:16.190 --> 00:34:18.250 Oh, I bet your kids loved it. 843 00:34:18.469 --> 00:34:21.050 Oh, my God. Well, it's they and I didn't tell 844 00:34:21.090 --> 00:34:23.730 them because you see, kids will tell their friends. And 845 00:34:23.849 --> 00:34:25.489 so I would just do it. And I had to 846 00:34:25.590 --> 00:34:28.000 because both my kids have my husband's gene of being 847 00:34:28.059 --> 00:34:31.570 very honest. They would look at me with their eyes 848 00:34:31.619 --> 00:34:34.969 like saucepans. I'm like, remember the dentist? And we would leave. 849 00:34:34.989 --> 00:34:36.210 And I'd be like, dude, we're going to the movies. 850 00:34:36.809 --> 00:34:38.610 And their heads would explode. And I'd be like, but 851 00:34:38.650 --> 00:34:41.429 here's the thing. If you go and tell your friend tomorrow, 852 00:34:41.929 --> 00:34:43.630 I'm going to go to jail. So they never told. 853 00:34:43.650 --> 00:34:48.130 They were like, oh, shit. And now they tell me 854 00:34:48.170 --> 00:34:50.289 that was so bad. Like, we were so scared. 855 00:34:50.489 --> 00:34:53.389 But you're generally hard on them academically. Does that not 856 00:34:53.409 --> 00:34:54.110 go against that? 857 00:34:54.670 --> 00:34:58.250 One day of missing school, you're not going to get 858 00:34:58.250 --> 00:35:00.079 10 on 10? What's the matter with you? One day. 859 00:35:06.570 --> 00:35:08.889 But I'll tell you, you know, these horrible movies, the 860 00:35:08.909 --> 00:35:12.010 Fast and Furious ones, they're terrible. I find them so bad. 861 00:35:12.030 --> 00:35:14.389 And I grew up with Bollywood, right? So really, my 862 00:35:14.429 --> 00:35:18.230 standards are quite low. But anyway, I remember a couple 863 00:35:18.250 --> 00:35:20.820 of years ago, the last one came out like Fast 864 00:35:20.880 --> 00:35:23.539 and Furious, even more idiotic or whatever it was called. 865 00:35:24.139 --> 00:35:27.159 And my son, who was a teenager at the time, 866 00:35:27.300 --> 00:35:30.150 wanted to see it. It was coming out at like 867 00:35:30.369 --> 00:35:33.050 midnight at the view near us. And he wanted to 868 00:35:33.110 --> 00:35:34.710 see it and he didn't want to go alone, blah, blah, blah, 869 00:35:34.730 --> 00:35:36.530 because then, you know, he'd have to. So he asked 870 00:35:36.570 --> 00:35:38.289 me and I said, yeah, of course I'll go because 871 00:35:38.309 --> 00:35:39.610 you want to go to the movies. And my husband 872 00:35:39.630 --> 00:35:43.030 was like, that's insane. You hate the movie. You don't 873 00:35:43.090 --> 00:35:45.340 like staying up late. But I woke up and I drove. 874 00:35:45.860 --> 00:35:49.739 I criticized the movie for the duration. I was like, what, 875 00:35:49.780 --> 00:35:51.940 now he's flying in a car? Fuck this. And my 876 00:35:51.980 --> 00:35:55.449 son was like, shh, shh. I went with him because 877 00:35:55.489 --> 00:35:58.110 I think those things with kids are fun and it's 878 00:35:58.150 --> 00:36:00.070 about the kids and you do those, but you don't 879 00:36:00.110 --> 00:36:02.340 have to fucking bath time. Come on. 880 00:36:06.130 --> 00:36:08.170 I've got a question then on that. So you've got, 881 00:36:08.789

--> 00:36:16.739 you described late teens. Where do you stand on drinking, partying, relationships? 882 00:36:17.239 --> 00:36:20.820 What I've realized from this conversation is I can't call 883 00:36:21.559 --> 00:36:24.469 your view on Like, you know, with most people you go, 884 00:36:24.530 --> 00:36:26.809 I could probably call what Rob's view would be a 885 00:36:26.869 --> 00:36:30.170 cross and that it's quite consistent, but you work on 886 00:36:30.230 --> 00:36:32.289 a very much a policy by policy basis. 887 00:36:32.349 --> 00:36:36.260 I can't quite- A hundred percent, zero consistency across the, yeah, 888 00:36:36.280 --> 00:36:36.860 there's nothing. 889 00:36:36.940 --> 00:36:37.900 You're not Boris Johnson. 890 00:36:37.980 --> 00:36:44.000 Yeah, wow, wow. But mine is still more scientific than 891 00:36:44.059 --> 00:36:48.010 anything Boris Johnson would do. So that's a very good 892 00:36:48.030 --> 00:36:53.250 question because I'm obviously, you know, quite traditionalist Quite Indian 893 00:36:53.269 --> 00:36:56.610 in the sense of I didn't grow up, you know, 894 00:36:57.030 --> 00:36:59.070 in a drinking culture. Of course, I drink and my 895 00:36:59.309 --> 00:37:02.530 parents drink, but drinking culture, by which I mean getting 896 00:37:02.690 --> 00:37:05.409 completely trollied and vomiting on the streets and this kind 897 00:37:05.449 --> 00:37:08.489 of thing, which is quite common here for teens. So 898 00:37:08.530 --> 00:37:10.570 I had a choice. I could either have been as 899 00:37:11.329 --> 00:37:16.530 stringent and probably lost my teenager in some way because 900 00:37:16.590 --> 00:37:19.230 he is a Western child. I don't care what you say. 901 00:37:19.289 --> 00:37:24.260 He's half Danish. He's been raised here. I'm quite a mix, both, 902 00:37:24.400 --> 00:37:25.920 you know, because I've lived here a long time and 903 00:37:26.460 --> 00:37:28.949 the choices I've made in terms of I'm doing stand 904 00:37:29.010 --> 00:37:31.010 up and this and these are not traditional Indian things. 905 00:37:31.110 --> 00:37:33.929 And he's not being raised in India. So I could 906 00:37:33.989 --> 00:37:36.650 have stuck with my value system and said, oh, it's right. 907 00:37:36.710 --> 00:37:37.130 It's right. 908 00:37:37.809 --> 00:37:39.159 But I think I would have lost him. And I 909 00:37:39.639 --> 00:37:43.360 think for me, a central guiding principle with my children 910 00:37:43.380 --> 00:37:46.699 has always been that my children must always feel that 911 00:37:47.699 --> 00:37:50.320 where I am is home. No matter what they do 912 00:37:50.480 --> 00:37:53.320 and what shit hits the fan and what shit they do, 913 00:37:53.789 --> 00:37:57.250 they should know that they can come home. And to 914 00:37:57.329 --> 00:38:00.070 have that, to engender that feeling in your child, I 915 00:38:00.110 --> 00:38:03.230 think you have to, there has to be a sense 916 00:38:03.289 --> 00:38:05.800 in them

that things could get ugly, but they'll always 917 00:38:05.860 --> 00:38:09.820 be okay. There's no judgment that would make them unwelcome. 918 00:38:10.139 --> 00:38:13.260 And I think shame is a very, very, very big 919 00:38:13.300 --> 00:38:17.869 part of this equation. And you have to somehow let 920 00:38:17.909 --> 00:38:21.590 your child know that there is no shame when they 921 00:38:21.610 --> 00:38:23.809 are in front of your eyes. So if that is 922 00:38:23.869 --> 00:38:25.719 my guiding principle, what I had to do was I 923 00:38:25.760 --> 00:38:27.570 had to turn to my Danish husband and be like, 924 00:38:27.639 --> 00:38:30.179 what is with the fucking drinking and fucking? What's the plan? 925 00:38:30.199 --> 00:38:31.480 Because I don't know. 926 00:38:31.500 --> 00:38:36.639 Are we willing to accept whatever he said on that? 927 00:38:36.940 --> 00:38:40.719 Well, we're very good friends. And I didn't at once agree. 928 00:38:40.880 --> 00:38:44.179 We had some back and forth, but I know that 929 00:38:44.199 --> 00:38:47.409 what I thought was, I can't trust myself on this 930 00:38:47.469 --> 00:38:50.599 because all of the signals I have are completely contrary 931 00:38:50.639 --> 00:38:52.659 to the world in which this child is raised. And 932 00:38:52.679 --> 00:38:55.079 also I trust my husband because my husband is a 933 00:38:55.099 --> 00:38:59.460 very conscientious and responsible guy. And I thought, well, fine. 934 00:38:59.500 --> 00:39:01.920 It was very hard in the beginning, really hard. And 935 00:39:02.139 --> 00:39:04.760 my husband used to take my phone away because he'd 936 00:39:04.780 --> 00:39:08.619 be like, he's gone out calling, giving him 83 missed 937 00:39:08.679 --> 00:39:10.260 calls is not going to help. 938 00:39:10.500 --> 00:39:10.820 Oh, yeah. 939 00:39:11.469 --> 00:39:13.550 And so he just would take my phone away. And 940 00:39:13.570 --> 00:39:15.130 then also at that time, I used to speak a 941 00:39:15.150 --> 00:39:19.010 lot to my mother who, uh, passed away in November. 942 00:39:19.190 --> 00:39:20.510 So I don't speak to her now. I mean, I 943 00:39:20.530 --> 00:39:22.789 do in my head, but you know, um, it, I 944 00:39:22.829 --> 00:39:23.849 used to call her and I used to say, oh 945 00:39:23.869 --> 00:39:25.750 my God, I can't believe I didn't marry an Indian 946 00:39:25.789 --> 00:39:29.670 and he's let him out to go drinking and, my 947 00:39:29.690 --> 00:39:31.889 mother used to say to me, she used to always say, 948 00:39:31.969 --> 00:39:33.909 first of all, she used to say, you are very stupid. 949 00:39:34.010 --> 00:39:36.530 She started every sentence like this. You are very stupid. 950 00:39:36.739 --> 00:39:41.360 My son-in-law is a great man. And then she used 951 00:39:41.400 --> 00:39:44.139 to say, don't try and teach him what you don't know. 952 00:39:44.820 --> 00:39:46.820 She used to ask me questions like, are you Danish? 953 00:39:47.599 --> 00:39:51.139 Are you Britisher? Are you a boy? And you're like, no, no, no. 954 00:39:51.300 --> 00:39:52.840 Then why are you trying to teach him? 955 00:39:53.119 --> 00:39:53.440 Shut up. 956 00:39:54.260 --> 00:39:56.500 So I think I just let it go. And then 957 00:39:56.519 --> 00:39:59.840 when I saw that things were not going off the rails, 958 00:40:00.139 --> 00:40:02.119 I started to trust the process. Does that make sense? 959 00:40:02.500 --> 00:40:04.739 The worst feeling for me would be like if my daughter, 960 00:40:04.760 --> 00:40:06.599 when she was a teenager and having a drink and 961 00:40:06.920 --> 00:40:09.030 it was a bit tipsy. I was too scared to 962 00:40:09.070 --> 00:40:11.289 come home in case I bollocked her. And then she 963 00:40:11.309 --> 00:40:13.190 was just sat on the street or her mates waiting 964 00:40:13.210 --> 00:40:15.329 to be sober. You don't want, you know, to be 965 00:40:15.349 --> 00:40:18.489 the parent that goes to the office. But then, you know, 966 00:40:18.750 --> 00:40:20.050 you do want to be able to have a beer 967 00:40:20.070 --> 00:40:21.110 with them in the house if they want. 968 00:40:21.309 --> 00:40:23.250 I didn't want any of that. And, you know, Danes 969 00:40:23.389 --> 00:40:25.869 are very, very good about this stuff. And, you know, 970 00:40:25.929 --> 00:40:28.030 so in the beginning when I was a bit nervous, because, 971 00:40:28.050 --> 00:40:30.230 you know, I mean, let's be honest. I don't care 972 00:40:30.269 --> 00:40:33.329 what you what the world says. Kids are drinking younger 973 00:40:33.369 --> 00:40:37.059 and younger these days, you know. And they're not 16 974 00:40:37.059 --> 00:40:38.840 when they start drinking. No. 975 00:40:39.039 --> 00:40:42.719 I've got absolutely shit faces, a 15-year-old. It was self-serve 976 00:40:42.739 --> 00:40:44.500 vodka and orange. And I came home and I was 977 00:40:44.519 --> 00:40:46.159 sick on the front door and I was sick in 978 00:40:46.179 --> 00:40:49.059 my bed. And then I pissed myself. And I was like, 15? 979 00:40:49.059 --> 00:40:49.780 That's insane. 980 00:40:49.800 --> 00:40:54.019 Well, there you go. As for relationships, I have always thought, 981 00:40:54.699 --> 00:40:56.269 I mean, of course, deep down, I want to arrange 982 00:40:56.349 --> 00:40:59.590 all their marriages, don't I? But I can't. And I mean, I, 983 00:40:59.710 --> 00:41:03.400 you know, I have... people in mind my close friends 984 00:41:03.420 --> 00:41:05.110 who have children who are the right age and I 985 00:41:05.139 --> 00:41:08.369 just somewhere deep down I think well that would be 986 00:41:08.429 --> 00:41:10.170 nice but then I say Sindhu shut up it's never 987 00:41:10.210 --> 00:41:11.110 going to happen. 988 00:41:10.949 --> 00:41:12.469 I think all mums are like that though aren't they 989 00:41:12.670 --> 00:41:15.449 even like western mums my mum would always go she's 990 00:41:15.530 --> 00:41:17.690 nice because

she knows the mum and dad it would 991 00:41:17.730 --> 00:41:20.239 be easier for everyone involved if you just got off 992 00:41:20.260 --> 00:41:22.230 with the girl around the corner Uh, yeah. 993 00:41:22.289 --> 00:41:24.250 Maybe not just get off like Mary. That to me 994 00:41:24.289 --> 00:41:26.489 is like the goal. Uh, but you know, and I, 995 00:41:26.730 --> 00:41:29.429 but I've had people in my mind for my children 996 00:41:29.590 --> 00:41:32.869 since my children were four and five, but I don't 997 00:41:32.909 --> 00:41:35.010 say anything about it. I keep it to myself. What 998 00:41:35.050 --> 00:41:38.250 I have spoken to my children about is issues that, 999 00:41:38.630 --> 00:41:40.329 because when it comes to drinking thing, I was less 1000 00:41:40.369 --> 00:41:42.670 certain on this stuff. I'm not at all uncertain. I've, 1001 00:41:42.889 --> 00:41:47.610 I've spoken to them about being responsible. Um, consent, a 1002 00:41:47.670 --> 00:41:50.219 consent has been a big thing in my mind for 1003 00:41:50.260 --> 00:41:54.690 these kids. And so I've talked about being responsible, consent, 1004 00:41:54.789 --> 00:41:57.889 and also try not to come home with someone I 1005 00:41:57.929 --> 00:42:03.210 think is very dull. Because I just don't know how... Like, 1006 00:42:03.289 --> 00:42:04.809 I don't think I have it in me, you know? 1007 00:42:05.650 --> 00:42:07.289 My husband doesn't say anything to them. He's like, I'm 1008 00:42:07.329 --> 00:42:09.170 happy if you're happy, which is, what? 1009 00:42:09.650 --> 00:42:09.869 What? 1010 00:42:10.250 --> 00:42:12.550 On the subject of your husband, we do offer our 1011 00:42:12.570 --> 00:42:15.269 guests a chance that if any grow up or issue 1012 00:42:15.570 --> 00:42:17.929 with something their partner does with parenting, and they don't 1013 00:42:17.949 --> 00:42:20.239 feel like they can ask them or tell them, you know, 1014 00:42:20.260 --> 00:42:23.039 this is your opportunity to, you know, indulge in that. 1015 00:42:23.380 --> 00:42:26.159 Rob, do you really think there's anything I've felt that 1016 00:42:26.199 --> 00:42:28.239 I haven't said to him face to face? 1017 00:42:30.280 --> 00:42:31.699 I did think that would be the response. 1018 00:42:33.190 --> 00:42:35.010 I just don't have anything like that. 1019 00:42:35.530 --> 00:42:37.469 When was the last time you like really lost your 1020 00:42:37.510 --> 00:42:37.969 shit with them? 1021 00:42:38.849 --> 00:42:41.329 Oh God, I don't know. Like, let me think. Probably 1022 00:42:41.369 --> 00:42:42.909 very recently. I mean, I lose my shit on a 1023 00:42:43.170 --> 00:42:46.489 quite regular basis. Over the weekend, I lost my temper because, 1024 00:42:46.909 --> 00:42:48.940 because you know what? 18 plus six is not 22. 1025 00:42:48.940 --> 00:42:51.360 It's not fucking 22. And we've been over it so 1026 00:42:51.380 --> 00:42:54.920 many times. How is 18 plus six 22? What, what 1027 00:42:54.960 --> 00:42:55.599 has happened to you? 1028 00:42:55.699 --> 00:42:56.440 Where, what? 1029 00:42:56.780 --> 00:42:58.920 Like I got crazy. I was running around the house 1030 00:42:58.940 --> 00:43:02.090 saying 22, 22, 22. The dogs were running away. My 1031 00:43:02.150 --> 00:43:04.239 husband was like, just let it go. I got crazy. 1032 00:43:04.239 --> 00:43:07.360 18 plus six should not be 22. Come on. 1033 00:43:07.420 --> 00:43:09.340 I mean, to be fair, I'm still working it out. 1034 00:43:14.179 --> 00:43:16.739 Okay. First of all, I think what I have to 1035 00:43:16.820 --> 00:43:19.090 also put in here is that those years of being 1036 00:43:19.130 --> 00:43:21.369 at home with the children, I was very on it. 1037 00:43:21.610 --> 00:43:23.170 You know, I didn't just say, well, go ahead and 1038 00:43:23.409 --> 00:43:25.780 please get A's and show them to me. I worked 1039 00:43:25.820 --> 00:43:27.829 with them. I figured out what they knew how to do, 1040 00:43:27.869 --> 00:43:31.210 what they didn't know how to do, you know. And 1041 00:43:31.530 --> 00:43:35.530 discipline in practice is a very important part of performance. 1042 00:43:35.570 --> 00:43:38.400 And I think as a stand-up especially, you know, you 1043 00:43:38.440 --> 00:43:40.659 go out and you gig because that's what gets you good. 1044 00:43:41.699 --> 00:43:45.019 So discipline in practice academically is something that I think 1045 00:43:45.039 --> 00:43:47.550 from a young age they've, and I don't think I'm unusual. 1046 00:43:47.570 --> 00:43:49.730 You ask any South Asian parent, they're going to tell 1047 00:43:49.750 --> 00:43:51.739 you this, you know. It's a big part of their day. 1048 00:43:51.760 --> 00:43:52.980 It's like, you have to do this. You have to 1049 00:43:53.019 --> 00:43:54.539 come home from school and you play a little bit. 1050 00:43:54.599 --> 00:43:56.239 You have to do studies. So I think it's kind 1051 00:43:56.280 --> 00:43:59.380 of built into the system. Then there are some, see, 1052 00:43:59.599 --> 00:44:03.119 when I was growing up, you couldn't be bad at anything. 1053 00:44:03.840 --> 00:44:05.719 I don't have that rule. So with like, for example, 1054 00:44:05.780 --> 00:44:07.280 one of my kids is not very good in math, 1055 00:44:07.320 --> 00:44:11.710 but that's fine because they're very good in history. So math, 1056 00:44:11.849 --> 00:44:15.010 I know what the level is. It's the issue is 1057 00:44:15.510 --> 00:44:17.690 what are you bringing to the table today? Are you 1058 00:44:17.710 --> 00:44:20.880 bringing your shitty work ethic for who? The world doesn't 1059 00:44:20.920 --> 00:44:23.119 need that. You bring good work ethic. And then if 1060 00:44:23.139 --> 00:44:25.219 you end up with a B in math, it's fine 1061 00:44:25.239 --> 00:44:26.840 because you've got an A star in history because it 1062 00:44:26.889 --> 00:44:29.250 shows that you're working hard. That stuff is in the 1063

00:44:29.389 --> 00:44:31.789 system in this house. And that's very much from me. 1064 00:44:32.630 --> 00:44:34.590 And I also think if they say, well, but that 1065 00:44:34.630 --> 00:44:36.760 doesn't make me happy. I'm like, no one cares. 1066 00:44:37.400 --> 00:44:41.280 Zero. To be fair, I was never that great academically, 1067 00:44:41.300 --> 00:44:43.900 but I put all the effort in I could. So 1068 00:44:43.940 --> 00:44:45.920 as long as they try their best, that's fine by me. 1069 00:44:46.219 --> 00:44:49.000 It's the effort and it's the work. I think children 1070 00:44:49.079 --> 00:44:50.980 should have a sense of responsibility of what the fuck 1071 00:44:51.019 --> 00:44:53.559 they're doing here. And also, they have to have some 1072 00:44:53.639 --> 00:44:57.559 sensibility for their parents. Like, what are you doing today 1073 00:44:57.599 --> 00:44:58.539 that's doing for me? 1074 00:44:58.820 --> 00:44:59.099 Hello? 1075 00:44:59.820 --> 00:45:02.480 I've got one last question, Sindhu, which I'm fascinated by, 1076 00:45:02.500 --> 00:45:07.190 because you have an excellent use of the word fuck 1077 00:45:07.550 --> 00:45:10.659 when you're really making a point. And what is your 1078 00:45:10.699 --> 00:45:12.750 ruling on that? When you say, what the fuck are 1079 00:45:12.769 --> 00:45:15.670 you doing here? Is that what you're saying to them? 1080 00:45:16.010 --> 00:45:20.969 Well, not when they're little. But now sometimes if the 1081 00:45:20.989 --> 00:45:25.469 teenagers really get on my nerves, because they'll push you 1082 00:45:25.510 --> 00:45:28.960 and they'll argue and they'll say things. They'll make comments 1083 00:45:29.420 --> 00:45:32.750 that are intended to make me feel... to put me down. 1084 00:45:32.809 --> 00:45:35.710 You know, sometimes I'll say something about my comedy or something. And, 1085 00:45:35.949 --> 00:45:38.050 and I think that's fair. Don't, I mean, they're not 1086 00:45:38.090 --> 00:45:40.409 being rude. They're sort of pushing boundaries and they want 1087 00:45:40.429 --> 00:45:43.489 to have a discussion and yeah, fine. I'm here for that. 1088 00:45:43.530 --> 00:45:47.840 That's fine. But I, so my mother swore a lot 1089 00:45:48.760 --> 00:45:50.139 and she swore in front of us. She came from 1090 00:45:50.159 --> 00:45:52.599 a very feudal family in which swearing is sort of 1091 00:45:52.940 --> 00:45:55.920 women swear behind closed doors. So they don't swear in 1092 00:45:55.960 --> 00:45:57.739 front of the men, the male folk, but they swear 1093 00:45:57.760 --> 00:45:59.500 in front of their kids. And she had it down 1094 00:45:59.539 --> 00:46:03.530 to an art form. And, She then, when she became 1095 00:46:03.570 --> 00:46:06.440 a therapist and trained in America, returned from America and 1096 00:46:06.480 --> 00:46:10.619 started saying things like, fuck your asshole. And we were like, what? 1097 00:46:11.179 --> 00:46:13.699 She started, we're like, I don't

think it's fuck your asshole. 1098 00:46:13.719 --> 00:46:17.139 I think it's fuck you asshole, but okay. She started 1099 00:46:17.260 --> 00:46:23.920 using English bad words like extensively, much to, it was hilarious, hilarious, 1100 00:46:23.980 --> 00:46:28.030 but she had that energy. And I I absorbed that 1101 00:46:28.150 --> 00:46:30.489 without realizing. I never swore in front of my parents. 1102 00:46:30.550 --> 00:46:32.469 But as soon as I left the house, I was 1103 00:46:32.530 --> 00:46:36.329 like potty mouth. And then I joined a trading floor. 1104 00:46:36.349 --> 00:46:40.639 I mean, swearing on the trading floor is normal. You know, 1105 00:46:41.380 --> 00:46:42.840 what happened is when I had kids, I had to 1106 00:46:42.860 --> 00:46:48.119 very consciously not swear in front of them. That didn't 1107 00:46:48.219 --> 00:46:52.230 last forever. I started with shit and then it went 1108 00:46:52.269 --> 00:46:56.329 from there. And then I remember my firstborn was, I 1109 00:46:56.369 --> 00:46:59.170 don't know, he was not yet 10 and something came 1110 00:46:59.250 --> 00:47:00.750 up and it was about a bad word. He didn't 1111 00:47:00.769 --> 00:47:03.130 really use it or maybe he used shit or something. 1112 00:47:03.170 --> 00:47:04.469 And I turned to him, I remember I pulled the 1113 00:47:04.510 --> 00:47:06.530 car over and I turned to him and I said, 1114 00:47:06.550 --> 00:47:09.289 listen to me, man, it's a big deal if you 1115 00:47:09.329 --> 00:47:13.239 swear because it's my fault, but I can't stop swearing. 1116 00:47:13.280 --> 00:47:17.039 So here's the deal. When you become a mother and 1117 00:47:17.059 --> 00:47:18.559 he said, mommy, that's never going to happen. 1118 00:47:18.599 --> 00:47:19.420 I said, okay, a father. 1119 00:47:20.000 --> 00:47:22.699 Then you can swear. But if you swear now, I'll 1120 00:47:22.739 --> 00:47:24.610 get into trouble and I have no time for that. 1121 00:47:24.659 --> 00:47:28.670 So don't you ever, ever swear. And he didn't. And 1122 00:47:29.110 --> 00:47:31.630 when you have one kid and you set, here's the thing, 1123 00:47:31.650 --> 00:47:33.670 because Josh, you only have one, right? 1124 00:47:33.989 --> 00:47:34.170 Yeah. 1125 00:47:34.389 --> 00:47:36.750 Set the tone because number two and three, they just follow. 1126 00:47:36.769 --> 00:47:38.550 They just fall into line more or less. 1127 00:47:38.570 --> 00:47:39.429 Oh, I'm in trouble. 1128 00:47:40.659 --> 00:47:42.380 More or less. So, yeah, so they don't swear. I 1129 00:47:43.280 --> 00:47:47.699 think children's respect for parents is not necessarily, doesn't have 1130 00:47:47.780 --> 00:47:50.659 to be expressed through in traditional ways. 1131 00:47:51.280 --> 00:47:51.500 Yeah. 1132 00:47:51.900 --> 00:47:54.170 You know, and you know if your child respects you. 1133 00:47:54.179 --> 00:47:56.079 And also they have a certain ease around you, right? 1134 00:47:56.440 --> 00:47:56.539 Yeah.

1135 00:47:56.599 --> 00:47:59.300 And that's very nice because they're not thinking, oh, I'm 1136 00:47:59.340 --> 00:48:01.960 now with my parents and I'm now not with my parents. 1137 00:48:01.980 --> 00:48:03.760 Of course, he has a much better time with his friends, 1138 00:48:04.420 --> 00:48:07.019 but he should feel, because that's when they talk to 1139 00:48:07.059 --> 00:48:09.449 you is when they have that sense of ease, you know? 1140 00:48:09.780 --> 00:48:11.960 Sindhu, it's been amazing. Thank you so much. 1141 00:48:11.980 --> 00:48:13.239 This was so fun. 1142 00:48:13.500 --> 00:48:15.360 It's been a pleasure to talk to you genuinely. I 1143 00:48:15.940 --> 00:48:18.050 am absolutely fucking terrified of you. 1144 00:48:18.429 --> 00:48:19.280 Don't be terrified of me. 1145 00:48:19.309 --> 00:48:20.889 To be honest, and I mean this as a kind 1146 00:48:20.929 --> 00:48:24.929 of compliment, I understand you less now than an hour ago. 1147 00:48:24.949 --> 00:48:30.949 LAUGHTER I much prefer the two-dimensional figure, Sindhu. 1148 00:48:31.409 --> 00:48:32.789 Oh, I'm sorry. 1149 00:48:32.809 --> 00:48:37.010 LAUGHTER Thank you so much. 1150 00:48:37.210 --> 00:48:38.449 Thank you, Sindhu. It's been brilliant. 1151 00:48:38.469 --> 00:48:40.349 Thank you so much, you guys. It was fun. 1152 00:48:42.949 --> 00:48:45.389 Sindhu V there. I absolutely love that. 1153 00:48:46.070 --> 00:48:47.150 She's very scary. 1154 00:48:47.889 --> 00:48:50.550 Yes. Yes. But do you know what? You know, like 1155 00:48:50.590 --> 00:48:54.610 Jose Mourinho or someone like that, who's got that fear factor, 1156 00:48:54.630 --> 00:48:57.590 but also you go out and play for them. Do 1157 00:48:57.610 --> 00:48:58.489 you know that? 1158 00:48:58.550 --> 00:49:02.530 Yeah, yeah. Yeah, because you were so spot on, though, 1159 00:49:02.550 --> 00:49:05.250 because the idea I had of Sindhu, because she's spoken 1160 00:49:05.329 --> 00:49:07.349 about it in the past, being very academic driven and 1161 00:49:07.369 --> 00:49:09.110 quite strict with her kids. And they've got to be 1162 00:49:09.130 --> 00:49:10.730 grown up so they don't baby them and stuff like that. 1163 00:49:10.750 --> 00:49:12.590 And then she's like, yeah, I've just taken them to 1164 00:49:12.610 --> 00:49:15.590 Disneyland on my own. I'd never imagined she'd have done that. 1165 00:49:16.010 --> 00:49:18.130 But I think maybe that's how she can get away 1166 00:49:18.170 --> 00:49:20.090 with being so strictly like that, where they go... look, 1167 00:49:20.130 --> 00:49:22.050 she's not just a lunatic. She's really fun and a 1168 00:49:22.070 --> 00:49:23.969 good mum. She's not just a lunatic. No, but you 1169 00:49:23.989 --> 00:49:26.360 know when someone's just like, are you my dad or mum, 1170 00:49:26.449 --> 00:49:28.260 or are you just this lunatic who screams at me 1171 00:49:28.280 --> 00:49:30.219 if I don't get good grades? Because if that's the case, 1172 00:49:30.260 --> 00:49:31.659 what is the point in life? Do you know what 1173 00:49:31.679 --> 00:49:32.920 I mean? I know you've got to get a good 1174 00:49:32.960 --> 00:49:34.280 job and do well, but you've got to have the 1175 00:49:34.340 --> 00:49:36.539 fun as well. And I think taking your kids out 1176 00:49:36.559 --> 00:49:39.739 of school For a pretend dentist appointment to go to 1177 00:49:39.800 --> 00:49:44.920 cinema is such a power move for a parent. I'd 1178 00:49:45.000 --> 00:49:46.579 love my parents so much if they did that. Imagine 1179 00:49:46.599 --> 00:49:47.820 getting taken out of school for that. 1180 00:49:48.159 --> 00:49:49.599 That's your absolute dream. 1181 00:49:50.139 --> 00:49:50.320 Yeah. 1182 00:49:50.340 --> 00:49:52.860 Because you think you're going to the dentist. 1183 00:49:53.599 --> 00:49:54.739 Exactly. 1184 00:49:55.079 --> 00:49:57.800 It's not even that you think that it's just another 1185 00:49:57.840 --> 00:49:59.840 day at school. You think it's something worse than school. 1186 00:50:00.000 --> 00:50:01.360 But then, do you know what's worse, Rob? 1187 00:50:01.679 --> 00:50:02.050 What's that? 1188 00:50:02.429 --> 00:50:04.570 Next time, when you are going to the dentist and 1189 00:50:04.590 --> 00:50:06.889 you're like, see you later, lads, I'm off to watch Monsters, Inc. 1190 00:50:07.090 --> 00:50:13.789 LAUGHTER You can't buy train tracks. Anyway, thank you for listening. Bye.