16: Parasites, Lyme Disease & Cellcore: What Actually Heals Chronic Illness with Dr. Todd Watts ၏ စာသားမှတ်တမ်းအပြည့်အစုံ

girls and two boys, and they are amazing in my life. 00:02:24.960 --> 00:02:30.639 My wife is uh very supportive, really helped me quite a bit in in my clinic when I started that up in 2013. 00:02:30.800 --> 00:02:38.719 So I started my practice when I was 45 years old, so my second career after 2008, which wasn't very great for the economy. 00:02:38.879 --> 00:02:40.879 I was in the real estate business, the mortgage business. 00:02:41.039 --> 00:02:43.840 I had, you know, I had decided to make a career path change. 00:02:44.000 --> 00:02:49.599 We go back to school in 2009 and then 2013 uh graduated and started practice. 00:02:49.919 --> 00:02:53.039 In the 17s when we started, like I said, the Cell Corps. 00:02:53.439 --> 00:02:53.759 Yeah. 00:02:54.159 --> 00:02:59.840 Um, it's just been a great run of you know, my own personal history has guided me here. 00:02:59.919 --> 00:03:05.439 Uh and as a kid, my mom would take us to the chiropractor, and once I did muscle testing and nutrition. 00:03:06.159 --> 00:03:08.400 And so I've been exposed to that since I was young. 00:03:08.639 --> 00:03:15.919 I remember in high school, you know, playing basketball tournaments in between games, and mom would take me to the chiropractor to get adjusted, and then we go back to the game. 00:03:16.000 --> 00:03:18.319 And you know halftime? 00:03:18.719 --> 00:03:21.120 Not halftime, not halftime, but just in between games. 00:03:21.199 --> 00:03:22.080 So we'd finish one game. 00:03:22.479 --> 00:03:23.599 Like at tournaments, okay, got it. 00:03:24.080 --> 00:03:24.800 Wow, really? 00:03:25.120 --> 00:03:25.439 Yeah. 00:03:25.680 --> 00:03:31.919 And so, you know, because you get injuries, you know, between ankle injuries, back injuries, all that stuff. 00:03:32.080 --> 00:03:36.639 I was very I was a very intense kind of personality when I was a teenager, really wanted to win. 00:03:36.879 --> 00:03:43.120 And uh so my my journey was with my own health is is going through a little bit more of that natural route throughout my life. 00:03:43.199 --> 00:03:46.000 And then uh 28, I got Epstein Bar virus. 00:03:46.080 --> 00:04:00.639 That kind of put me back a little bit, and then in my 30s, developed allergies, went pain and some headaches, and then at 40, I uh, you know, I was actually in chiropractic school going to a conference, you know, uh this guy was talking about Lyme disease, and I had all these symptoms he was talking about. 00:04:00.719 --> 00:04:09.520 So later I got tested at positive for Lyme and Bibesia, and then my journey of dealing with my own health issues and everything that that I was going through and struggling with. 00:04:09.680 --> 00:04:28.480 You know, I was able to learn firsthand as I started practice four years later and having experienced my own journey and then other people's and going in, spending time in those clinics, and then then just working with my own patients through that process and then learning about parasites and then mycotoxinal illness and then uh you know heavy metals and bringing it all together. 00:04:28.720 --> 00:04:30.160 That's what Cellcore and Dr. 00:04:30.240 --> 00:04:30.800 J and I did. 00:04:30.879 --> 00:04:35.600 We brought it all together because his wife had Lyme disease a couple of times really bad, almost died twice. 00:04:35.759 --> 00:04:48.959 And so we came together, partnered up, and just we were able to bring amazing protocols to the world with this with Cellcore of helping a lot of people down this pathway because it was my journey and his wife's journey, which was his journey to help her out. 00:04:49.120 --> 00:05:04.720 And so I've been super blessed in in so many ways of being able to, you know, in 2008 lose everything uh, you know, financially, but then yet in the same way gain everything because I learned about what was going on in my own health instead of just struggling for years and not figuring it out. 00:05:04.879 --> 00:05:06.800 Because nobody had figured it out before that. 00:05:07.199 --> 00:05:10.240 Doctors like, oh, it's just arthritis, you're 40, this is normal. 00:05:10.480 --> 00:05:17.600 Or uh, you know, other doctors, you know, chiropractors and nature paths not understanding at that time these things because it wasn't really well known. 00:05:17.839 --> 00:05:18.000 Yeah. 00:05:18.240 --> 00:05:29.439 No, I love I love your comment there about I mean it's it's actually very beautiful, not shockingly, coming from me about losing losing so much, losing everything, but there's there's silver lines of the the cliche term, right? 00:05:29.519 --> 00:05:36.800 There's silver lines to things, but it's really I don't know, for me, it's extremely difficult to actually embrace those kind that that positivity. 00:05:36.959 --> 00:05:38.720 It's not so much my makeup, all right. 00:05:38.800 --> 00:05:57.360 But so when I hear people like patients commonly, but a lot of us as practitioners who've gone through that those roads also, to be able to see that and and actually own it with with authentic with authenticity about the um the posit not just the positivity, but the the purpose um and and the missions behind that and what comes out of that. 00:05:57.519 --> 00:05:59.920 It's it's it's like I think about like Phoenix rising. 00:06:00.000 --> 00:06:03.680 It's just I'm in all of it because I it's not how I'm made, it's not how I'm wired. 00:06:03.759 --> 00:06:04.879 Uh so I'll have to learn that over time. 00:06:04.959 --> 00:06:12.959 So there's a phrase that my wife and I talk about, but I I came up with and talked, you know, I talked to my c clients and patients about all the time. 00:06:13.120 --> 00:06:14.399 I said, the gift is in the struggle. 00:06:14.639 --> 00:06:22.560 Through the struggle is where you're going to be able to come out on top and understand why you needed to go through that and learn and what is it that you learn from it. 00:06:22.639 --> 00:06:24.959 And if you become a victim to it,

that's not the idea. 00:06:25.040 --> 00:06:34.639 The the idea is what you're learning from it, what you're taking away that it wasn't you know more of the gift to you for you to be prepared to help others or to be able to progress in this life. 00:06:34.959 --> 00:06:35.199 Yeah. 00:06:35.360 --> 00:06:35.600 Yeah. 00:06:35.759 --> 00:06:38.480 God bless you for having for walking through that, right? 00:06:38.560 --> 00:06:46.399 Because even if you're kind of wired more that way or you have that capacity to to think and execute that, you still have to you still have to walk through it and make it happen. 00:06:46.480 --> 00:06:47.040 So I don't know. 00:06:47.120 --> 00:06:53.920 I mean, maybe that was that's a big because you've, as I already alluded to, you've had so much from my vantage point, you've had so much impact. 00:06:54.079 --> 00:06:55.439 I mean, you Dr. 00:06:55.519 --> 00:07:01.439 J Cellcore on so many lives in exponential ways that you you couldn't have done as an individual. 00:07:01.680 --> 00:07:08.480 So with that, I was gonna just, you know, if it's okay, I'm gonna just briefly segue um, you know, where's the the history for me with with SellCore? 00:07:08.720 --> 00:07:17.199 First of all, you know, for those of you those who might be listening in who are patients through RootSeek at RootSeekHealth.com, we use a lot of Sellcore products, right? 00:07:17.360 --> 00:07:17.600 We do. 00:07:17.680 --> 00:07:26.000 And it's not we don't have some kind of financial affiliation, we don't have some other kind of arrangement structures or emotional attachments. 00:07:26.240 --> 00:07:33.120 I I'll say right now that we we use it because um we just found I found and we found we find that it just works, right? 00:07:33.279 --> 00:07:34.800 Um the products work for patients. 00:07:34.959 --> 00:07:37.040 And so um just briefly segueing that, right? 00:07:37.120 --> 00:07:42.800 Um so where I came across you, is if you may or may not remember, was a TFIM conference, right? 00:07:42.879 --> 00:07:44.399 It was I don't remember who it was. 00:07:44.879 --> 00:07:49.439 Did you remember Chicago 2017, somewhere around there? 00:07:49.759 --> 00:07:50.480 Oh gosh, Chicago. 00:07:50.639 --> 00:07:52.480 I I wouldn't even remember where it was. 00:07:52.720 --> 00:07:53.040 Yeah. 00:07:53.279 --> 00:07:55.680 I can picture the stage, I can picture you presenting. 00:07:55.759 --> 00:08:04.240 I know other people who presented at that same time, but you presented on the bread and butter topic of Soap War with the parasites, and I'd never heard of you, didn't know who you were, you know. 00:08:04.399 --> 00:08:08.000 Not that you were the only person I hadn't heard of, but I had no connection to you whatsoever. 00:08:08.160 --> 00:08:13.360 But I remember I still have an emotional memory from that time thinking to myself, like, that's a solid dude. 00:08:13.519 --> 00:08:14.720 There's an integral character. 00:08:14.879 --> 00:08:18.079 I

don't, I don't know much about him at all, but I like that guy, right? 00:08:18.319 --> 00:08:25.199 There's something about him that is as attractive with in in energy, and and um there's something genuine about him, right? 00:08:25.279 --> 00:08:28.639 And and I remember thinking the parasite topic is like kind of new for me. 00:08:28.720 --> 00:08:32.399 And and it didn't hurt that you weren't the only one talking about it at that conference. 00:08:32.480 --> 00:08:40.159 It was a second presentation also from someone who already knew, so it helped kind of ping and you know, uh balance it out or kind of support the two talks kind of support each other. 00:08:40.320 --> 00:08:46.720 But it wasn't until a couple few years after that that uh in my own professional journey I started really inquiring about that parasite topic. 00:08:46.799 --> 00:08:48.799 And so I'm like, where am I gonna go learning about this? 00:08:48.960 --> 00:08:52.639 Because it's not really something we spend hardly any time on in conventional medicine. 00:08:52.720 --> 00:09:00.159 I don't think I ever came across it uh, you know, in whatever number of years residency practice, whatever for total collection, maybe 15 years at that point. 00:09:00.399 --> 00:09:01.600 And so you came to mind. 00:09:01.679 --> 00:09:05.200 Like you you you were the first and maybe only person who came to mind at that moment. 00:09:05.279 --> 00:09:16.559 And so I remembered the uh the company name, and I gave Sellcore a call, and all of a sudden they're like, Yeah, we can connect you with your local rep who we find out, you know, Tara, she's she's a PA. 00:09:16.879 --> 00:09:20.080 I was like, what's a PA doing working for a supplement company? 00:09:20.240 --> 00:09:20.559 Right? 00:09:20.720 --> 00:09:26.720 And then it was just awesome for me because she tells her story similar to you just telling your story, which is a lot of practitioners' stories. 00:09:26.879 --> 00:09:29.679 The reason we got to where we are is because we've been through it, right? 00:09:29.759 --> 00:09:32.960 It's not just it we walk the talk and because we've gone through it. 00:09:33.039 --> 00:09:35.840 And so uh it just really spoke to me that here's another person. 00:09:35.919 --> 00:09:40.960 She's like, my life was changed, you know, using using um SOCOR products and and protocols, etc. 00:09:41.279 --> 00:09:55.840 So there's the uh there's this there's the origins for me with you guys, and as you know, I'll keep it really brief, is that you know, I I I wouldn't say I was dragged and screaming to Eco, your your at the annual conference for SOCOR in that year, I thought I'm guessing it was 2021, all right. 00:09:56.080 --> 00:10:01.279 Um I wasn't just skicking at kicking and screaming, but I had other conferences to go to that were two weeks before and after eco. 00:10:01.519 --> 00:10:05.679 So I was gonna be going away every other week for three, three weeks, three times in a row. 00:10:05.919 --> 00:10:07.440 I was like, that's just that's not doable. 00:10:07.600 --> 00:10:09.039 Because again, you you have four kids too. 00:10:09.120 --> 00:10:11.759 So for me, four kids, I was like, that's that's not gonna happen. 00:10:11.840 --> 00:10:13.759 But I went and it was life-changing, right? 00:10:13.840 --> 00:10:16.080 That's as I was sharing with you before we got on. 00:10:16.159 --> 00:10:17.679 I've said that to other practitioners as well. 00:10:17.759 --> 00:10:20.320 Like it's the energy of the community and the vibe. 00:10:20.480 --> 00:10:23.919 I had all I had some more negative expectations, to be honest. 00:10:24.159 --> 00:10:26.799 But I walked away, as you know, I walked away like literally crying. 00:10:26.879 --> 00:10:27.279 Yeah, right. 00:10:27.360 --> 00:10:32.559 I think I've out of five times I've gone, I think I've had tears upon leaving probably four out of five times. 00:10:35.360 --> 00:10:37.679 I'm not like an easy crier kind of guy, I mean, I don't think. 00:10:37.840 --> 00:10:47.039 But so there's a background, and I think with all that, um I'm hogging airspace here, but I want to ask you, like starting off here, you've you just talked about how diverse your background is, right? 00:10:47.120 --> 00:10:50.639 And you went into healthcare and medicine as a second career, as you say. 00:10:51.120 --> 00:10:58.639 You know, and what I've painted a picture here is from my vantage point, you you have you just have such a a beautiful heart, such an empathetic heart. 00:10:58.879 --> 00:11:12.000 And so maybe to start off with here, you know, what what kind of you, you know, as a as a clinician with in patient care, what what drives you, what fuels you, what fulfills you with that sense of purpose with with patient care to date? 00:11:12.320 --> 00:11:17.360 I think a big part of it is going back to bringing hope to somebody who's lost hope. 00:11:17.519 --> 00:11:22.399 And uh a lot of people that I've worked with, I was their last doctor, like you're like, I don't know who else to call Dr. 00:11:22.480 --> 00:11:25.200 Watts, you're the last one, and they put it on me. 00:11:25.360 --> 00:11:27.679 I'm like, well, that's a big burden of responsibility. 00:11:28.000 --> 00:11:31.759 But it it goes back to they knew my heart that I wasn't gonna give up on them. 00:11:31.919 --> 00:11:33.279 Most doctors just give up on them. 00:11:33.440 --> 00:11:35.840 And it was down to, okay, what else is there? 00:11:36.000 --> 00:11:36.879 What else could there be? 00:11:36.960 --> 00:11:38.480 Which is where I got to all this stuff. 00:11:38.639 --> 00:11:41.120 It wasn't because I knew it all at the beginning. 00:11:41.360 --> 00:11:43.039 It was, okay, hey, I don't know. 00:11:43.120 --> 00:11:46.080 My patients are the ones that taught me what was going on here. 00:11:46.240 --> 00:11:48.000 So, like, all right, they're not getting better. 00:11:48.159 --> 00:11:49.279 Why aren't they getting better? 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00:11:52.320 And then I learned about parasites and deep dive through that. 00:11:52.399 --> 00:11:56.080 I'm like, all right, they're doing a lot better here, but then there's still something going on. 00:11:56.159 --> 00:11:58.240 And they're like, all right, then I learned about mold. 00:11:58.559 --> 00:12:02.720 There just wasn't a lot of information about this stuff back in back in the day. 00:12:03.039 --> 00:12:06.639 You know, I had to really do a deep dive and understanding where people were. 00:12:06.720 --> 00:12:08.480 And I've always had a behavior heart. 00:12:08.559 --> 00:12:14.159 I I'm the my brother and I, my brother's two minutes older, so we're twins, and we're the oldest of eight kids. 00:12:14.240 --> 00:12:17.279 So I've always had a lot of responsibility raising my younger siblings. 00:12:17.360 --> 00:12:24.159 My next brother's about almost six years younger than me, and then they go two years after that, like eight, 10, 12, 14, 16 years younger. 00:12:24.399 --> 00:12:30.159 So my upbringing, I just always was very uh one of those that took care of my younger siblings. 00:12:30.240 --> 00:12:33.279 Um, you know, my parents, we have a great, we have a close family. 00:12:33.360 --> 00:12:35.600 Even today, it's you know, all of us kids are really close. 00:12:35.679 --> 00:12:40.320 And my dad, um, you know, I go see him every week, and we all have a day we go see him visit him. 00:12:40.399 --> 00:12:44.799 And he's 87, he's getting ready to go back to work here in in March, end of this month. 00:12:44.960 --> 00:12:47.440 Uh, now that his hips replaced and he can walk again. 00:12:47.679 --> 00:12:53.440 But he just thought a great work ethic and just integrity was something that they had always taught us when we were kids. 00:12:53.600 --> 00:12:57.039 Even my first job delivering papers, you know, our paper outs back in the day. 00:12:57.279 --> 00:12:59.360 Some of us Gen Xers could understand that. 00:12:59.679 --> 00:13:05.120 But yeah, you know, I was like, look, you're he always said you're a watts boy, you know, I expect more out of you. 00:13:05.279 --> 00:13:06.879 And you know, you put that paper on the porch. 00:13:06.960 --> 00:13:07.919 You don't just throw it up there. 00:13:08.080 --> 00:13:10.639 It's like you do your best job, and that'll always pay off. 00:13:10.799 --> 00:13:14.879 And and then my mom was like the biggest, kindest hearted person that you'd ever meet. 00:13:14.960 --> 00:13:17.759 She would give anything and help everybody you knew. 00:13:17.840 --> 00:13:20.480 And uh it's just part of who I am and how I was raised. 00:13:20.639 --> 00:13:22.720 And so that just translated, I just care about people. 00:13:22.799 --> 00:13:30.960 I love people, and I want to see them get over their struggle and be able to have that hope restored and have a life that matters versus always being sick. 00:13:31.200 --> 00:13:32.480 Yeah, no, I I I love that. 00:13:32.639 --> 00:13:44.720 And I think um suddenly I'm sort of feeling like there's there's a message there, right, for for a lot of us as practitioners, because um, I don't know, so I don't think I'm the only one who can feel stuck in my own way with patient care a lot of times. 00:13:44.799 --> 00:13:47.039 So I feel like, how come how come they're not getting better? 00:13:47.120 --> 00:13:48.000 How come they're not getting better? 00:13:48.080 --> 00:13:57.200 And then feeling that as you just talked about, like that that pressure that um many times is self-placed or self-induced or gaslit anyway internally. 00:13:57.440 --> 00:14:05.759 Yeah, a lot of the colleagues I have, whether here uh brick and mortar or the virtual practice with RootSeek, that um, you know, we try to encourage ourselves or remind ourselves, you're showing up. 00:14:06.080 --> 00:14:15.919 You know, you're showing up and you have a heart, and the freak that the fact that you just freaking care is 99% of the battle and 99.9% better than what they're gonna get elsewhere. 00:14:16.159 --> 00:14:21.600 Not judging anybody else is just healthcare is tough, it's easy to get burned out, jaded, skeptical, whatever. 00:14:21.840 --> 00:14:25.600 But that that that caring, that heart is you gotta refuel. 00:14:25.759 --> 00:14:37.519 I'm being a little hypocrite saying that there, but but you know, you've I know you've it you've you've advocated that and you know, kind of bantered on that with number of practitioners I've known, both on stage and in personal conversation. 00:14:37.679 --> 00:14:39.679 You gotta recharge, you gotta take care of yourself. 00:14:39.759 --> 00:14:43.440 But but if you don't have the if you gotta have the heart to to keep servicing. 00:14:43.519 --> 00:14:53.360 So I I love that message about hope because um that's that's there's that's definitely something that we all as practitioners can bring to the table as long as we also recharge. 00:14:53.519 --> 00:14:55.360 Because uh and that has immense value for patients. 00:14:55.679 --> 00:14:56.159 It does. 00:14:56.320 --> 00:14:56.799 Totally agree. 00:14:57.039 --> 00:15:08.240 Uh so now speaking to just outside of your own personal experience, um, do you have any sort of favorite stories about your sort of mentorship or influence on other practitioners, whether in the self-core community or outside of? 00:15:08.480 --> 00:15:13.840 Or the kind of I'm sure you've heard so many stories of other patients that you never saw, right? 00:15:14.000 --> 00:15:22.639 That um practitioners in your community in one way or another, through your influence and mentorship, that they saw patients get breakthroughs. 00:15:22.799 --> 00:15:27.919 Like, yeah, do you have any particular unique or um you know uh special places in your heart kind of stories? 00:15:28.159 --> 00:15:32.960 Yeah, well, there's there there's so so many um a couple things, a couple ideas to throw by. 00:15:33.120 --> 00:15:33.600 One is Dr. 00:15:33.679 --> 00:15:35.039 Jay

Davidson, though Dr. 00:15:35.200 --> 00:15:39.600 Jay's partner, but he he's just an amazing individual who is like a brother to me. 00:15:39.679 --> 00:15:42.240 And his wife struggled with health issues when we met. 00:15:42.480 --> 00:15:48.799 Still, even though she she she uh her Lyme symptoms were a lot better, she was functional, she still had a lot of health stuff. 00:15:48.879 --> 00:15:53.679 That um when they come into town, I would work through, okay, what's next? 00:15:53.840 --> 00:15:56.000 Jay's like, okay, Todd, you gotta figure this out for me. 00:15:56.080 --> 00:15:57.360 You know, let's let's work through this. 00:15:57.519 --> 00:16:12.720 And I was able to figure out what was really going on on some of her own health issues, too, where she's a vibrant personality who she used to struggle to get up in the morning and now she's up early playing pickleball multiple hours a day and living a whole life that was just you know awesomely changed. 00:16:12.879 --> 00:16:16.320 And um yeah, just such great people. 00:16:16.480 --> 00:16:19.600 And then I just had so many practitioners that come up to me at Eco and say, Dr. 00:16:19.679 --> 00:16:21.039 Watch, you saved my life. 00:16:21.120 --> 00:16:25.279 Um, you know, not just her patients, but also my own life, you know, with Cellcore. 00:16:25.759 --> 00:16:31.279 And um really the whole Cellcore, I never planned on starting a supplement company. 00:16:31.440 --> 00:16:33.840 Never, it was never my thing to develop products. 00:16:34.000 --> 00:16:35.440 I was just there to help people. 00:16:35.600 --> 00:16:39.919 And it's just that what we had on the market just wasn't enough to help the people. 00:16:40.000 --> 00:16:49.440 And then um, so that's where I ended up turning into working and trying to figure out and creating products that worked and you know, working with Dr. 00:16:49.600 --> 00:16:56.240 J, actually protocols that would help people through that process of addressing multiple parts of the physiology of the body. 00:16:56.320 --> 00:17:02.480 It's not just like, oh, let's just kill something, let's just kill Lyme or candida or, you know, bacteria or parasites. 00:17:02.639 --> 00:17:04.559 It's like, no, how how do we need to support the body? 00:17:04.640 --> 00:17:09.839 How do we need to get the body to do it on its own and not have to be dependent upon the products forever? 00:17:10.000 --> 00:17:10.240 Yeah. 00:17:10.480 --> 00:17:17.519 And so it just the the company just bore, you know, was born out of a need for the market, and it just happened. 00:17:17.599 --> 00:17:20.559 It didn't even try to grow it, didn't market it, didn't it? 00:17:20.640 --> 00:17:23.039 Jame about because it worked. 00:17:23.200 --> 00:17:24.319 The products work. 00:17:24.400 --> 00:17:51.039 And um, sometimes people have success, really a success, other ones don't have as much, and then it's like, oh, let's just change up how you're doing and what products you're taking, how

much you're taking, like you just playing around with what what we have there, and it boom, that was the key element, or the new product that we launched, uh, you know, and somebody two days later after taking it passed big old parasite, you know, and and uh and or addressing the emotional issues, which can be uh a major, major problem with chronic health issues. 00:17:51.119 --> 00:17:58.640 Uh, you have addressed deeper emotions and trauma then, and that's something that you're gonna need to need to consider on chronic chronic illness problems. 00:17:58.960 --> 00:18:11.759 Yeah, you kind of you um kind of I always spoke to what I was gonna ask you eventually, if not next, you know, the sort of origins of what your intentions or goals may have been, starting so core, et cetera. 00:18:12.000 --> 00:18:14.559 Because I've never I've never asked you that before, never heard it before. 00:18:14.720 --> 00:18:18.319 So um, yeah, that's there's so much of that that happens in life, right? 00:18:18.480 --> 00:18:20.799 That uh unplanned, unscripted. 00:18:21.119 --> 00:18:24.240 And um, again, Phoenix from the from the ashes, I guess, right? 00:18:24.319 --> 00:18:24.880 It's it's beautiful. 00:18:25.039 --> 00:18:28.799 And I think that's just as a quick a quick background, also, that's the again, that's that was my story. 00:18:28.880 --> 00:18:31.119 Like I'm a I'm kind of over analytical and skeptical. 00:18:31.200 --> 00:18:35.119 I'm not the guy people want to see at a conference, you know, as a vendor, because I'm I'm not buying anything. 00:18:35.440 --> 00:18:36.480 I was just like you, okay? 00:18:36.640 --> 00:18:37.759 I'm very similar to you. 00:18:37.839 --> 00:18:45.680 So I've told people that I've sometimes I'm at the booth right there, and I'm just telling them right up front, I'm saying, like, I'm just telling you now I'm not gonna buy anything, so are you okay if I still ask questions? 00:18:46.000 --> 00:18:48.240 Because uh yeah, I I just know it's a sale, right? 00:18:48.400 --> 00:18:49.440 And and we won't get into it. 00:18:49.519 --> 00:18:54.160 But I I that's kind of what my part expectations were walking to eco the first time, and then I walk away crying. 00:18:54.240 --> 00:18:56.480 I'm like, okay, this isn't anything like I thought, right? 00:18:56.640 --> 00:19:02.160 But yeah, so I'm a skeptica a skeptic, but um when I walked away from that ego, that's when I was like, okay, there's something here. 00:19:02.240 --> 00:19:03.279 I I don't know how to explain it. 00:19:03.359 --> 00:19:04.880 I don't know the science behind this, I don't understand. 00:19:04.960 --> 00:19:17.039 It's gonna take me a long time to figure out with the analytical side of my brain, but I'm just gonna decide to be one of these fewer times, error times, I'm just gonna decide to surrender that, submit that, and um just be coachable. 00:19:17.200 --> 00:19:17.440 Right. 00:19:17.519 --> 00:19:19.440 And then it was like, oh my gosh, right. 00:19:19.519 --> 00:19:23.599 And and I won't go into more detail, but um, yeah, it just it's not any kind of guarantee. 00:19:23.680 --> 00:19:29.200 Obviously, there's there's there's there's still a journey that patients walk through and practitioners walk through alongside as well. 00:19:29.279 --> 00:19:34.000 But uh yeah, it's it's a it's amazing the kind of the kind of outcomes people get with with the stuff that you guys have created. 00:19:34.079 --> 00:19:49.440 And again, it's just the the amount of the normity of the impact that I see, that I see on pre practitioners and patients, and and as you said, the practitioners, that must be so humbling to hear so many people like say that to you recurrently, like you saved my life, you saved my family's life, you saved my patients' lives, right? 00:19:49.519 --> 00:19:51.680 It's that's not a trivial thing to say, right? 00:19:51.839 --> 00:19:54.160 It's it's one thing to say, like, I feel so much better. 00:19:54.319 --> 00:19:56.559 It's another thing when people actually say, like, you saved my life. 00:19:56.640 --> 00:19:57.599 Like, how often do you hear that? 00:19:57.759 --> 00:20:01.119 I mean, I'm sick of saying to generally to other practitioners, like, how often do we hear that? 00:20:01.200 --> 00:20:05.119 I think in conventional medicine, the only time you'd ever hear that is from like a trauma surgeon, right? 00:20:05.200 --> 00:20:06.799 Or a heart surgeon or a brain surgeon or something like that. 00:20:06.880 --> 00:20:08.720 I don't I don't think anyone ever hears that. 00:20:29.960 --> 00:20:42.920 What's interesting with that too is like look there, there'll be I took every product on the market, like they they're practitioners, they have access to every to all these different supplements and medications and things, and Cellcore is what helped them out. 00:20:43.480 --> 00:20:49.559 It's really good because I just really enjoyed just the how that just is so rewarding to see the efforts that I made. 00:20:49.720 --> 00:20:56.120 But I remember I presented at a conference, at one of the eco conferences, the exponential clinical outcome conferences. 00:20:56.279 --> 00:21:05.960 And the the part of it was um I presented on a gal that came into me as having 25 seizures a day, non-functional, had to be carried in the office. 00:21:06.200 --> 00:21:11.799 Started having seizures on my um on literally on the um right there in my in my clinic on the bench. 00:21:12.039 --> 00:21:18.039 And so I worked through what her issues were, and and so many doctors missed so many things on her, like basic. 00:21:18.200 --> 00:21:28.840 I mean, she'd been to so many medical doctors, so many nature paths, functional med doctors, you know, muscle testers, and they missed basic stuff of like, did you go international, did you drink the water, did you eat the food? 00:21:29.400 --> 00:21:34.200 Didn't have parasites, and nobody ever told her she had probably had a parasite, which was in her

brain nervous system. 00:21:34.360 --> 00:21:44.600 So we went through that process of being able to get her life back to where now she has a super thriving interior design business here locally, uh one of the top, fastest growing interior design businesses in the valley. 00:21:44.759 --> 00:21:48.680 And um, my daughter actually just started working working with her. 00:21:49.000 --> 00:21:49.640 Oh, wow. 00:21:49.880 --> 00:21:50.759 Oh, that's so cool. 00:21:51.079 --> 00:21:51.559 Part-time. 00:21:51.640 --> 00:21:56.360 And it's just it's just fun to see how her life is changed by by such a thing. 00:21:56.440 --> 00:21:59.559 I presented her video that her her husband had put together at one point. 00:21:59.799 --> 00:22:00.120 I remember that. 00:22:00.200 --> 00:22:00.759 Yeah, I remember this. 00:22:01.000 --> 00:22:01.880 I remember this presentation. 00:22:02.120 --> 00:22:11.319 And then I had an I remember one of the first people I worked with here in Boise, this gal came in and it's like, I'm having all this anxiety, a breakdown at work, uh crying. 00:22:11.400 --> 00:22:12.519 She was a paralegal. 00:22:12.600 --> 00:22:13.799 It's like this is not normal. 00:22:13.960 --> 00:22:15.880 And so we're working through some things there. 00:22:16.039 --> 00:22:18.440 And and um and I'm like, Well, how's your husband's health? 00:22:18.600 --> 00:22:22.200 And start talking, like, oh man, he He has all this anxiety stuff and blah blah blah. 00:22:22.279 --> 00:22:23.480 And he's overwhelmed. 00:22:23.640 --> 00:22:25.400 And like, you guys got mold in your house? 00:22:25.960 --> 00:22:26.920 Oh, you need to check your attic. 00:22:27.240 --> 00:22:30.680 Sure enough, this whole thing was covered in black mold attic and then down the walls. 00:22:30.759 --> 00:22:40.759 And I'm tearing the whole house down, digging the basement out and rebuilding a whole new house, and then just giving them the biotoxin binder heavy doses, literally in 30 days, changed their life. 00:22:40.920 --> 00:22:43.720 And and and so just there's so many different stories. 00:22:43.880 --> 00:22:55.000 I mean, even in my own life, of massive fatigue and function in my 40s that the binders just completely within 60 days wiped out, and I actually had energy to be able to work out again. 00:22:55.400 --> 00:22:57.319 I hadn't been able to work out for about 10 years. 00:22:57.480 --> 00:23:03.160 So it just there it just it it you follow the process and and you have part of it also is a mental thing. 00:23:03.240 --> 00:23:20.039 You know, I listened to a lot of things to help drive my mental positivity, which I believe is really important in in the in the journey, and whatever that may be, working on your spiritual health as well as working on your mental positivity health and thinking there is hope and you're gonna get through this because that changes your physiology too. 00:23:20.279 --> 00:23:35.240 Yeah, you know, you you guys um I mean you're you're you're talking about um there's there's a a bit of a recurring theme that uh just organically has come out of our conversation here about the emotional and energetic parts of of life and of health or or disease or you know, symptoms, et cetera. 00:23:35.400 --> 00:23:48.440 And um I mean I a couple things come to mind there, but let me just kind of simplify and you know, I gotta I gotta ask, you know, you and I both talked about, I mean, obviously you you live it, you you've lived it, you live it with the cell core community, but I've also alluded to it. 00:23:48.680 --> 00:23:53.720 That that first time I I was there with you go, it was like it was just a whole different experience for me, right? 00:23:53.880 --> 00:23:58.440 I mean, okay, I'm just gonna say I walked I walked in expecting it to be like a trade show, right? 00:23:58.600 --> 00:24:02.600 I was like, this is a supplement company, it's gonna be about the products, right? 00:24:02.759 --> 00:24:04.200 But I'm and here I am, okay. 00:24:04.440 --> 00:24:07.720 I don't even know how I got there, but I here I am, and I walk away crying, right? 00:24:07.799 --> 00:24:10.920 I'm like, okay, this is so not what I was I was expecting. 00:24:11.000 --> 00:24:14.200 And so what I'm what I'm asking is here is how did that come about? 00:24:14.360 --> 00:24:20.360 You know, we we were just talking about right before getting on on the call here, like how much, you know, this this is it's the 10th year of Eco coming up, right? 00:24:20.440 --> 00:24:22.200 That's that's part of I I volunteered. 00:24:22.279 --> 00:24:23.400 Let's just make it clear. 00:24:23.559 --> 00:24:25.799 This is not a paid recording here, okay? 00:24:25.880 --> 00:24:29.559 There was no request from Cellcore or you or anybody else asking me to do this. 00:24:29.640 --> 00:24:37.640 I did this, I approached you saying, hey, um, this might be a cool thing to release this, and especially with Eco coming up in um, you know, early May. 00:24:37.720 --> 00:24:40.039 Uh so yeah, what's what's the website there, right? 00:24:40.120 --> 00:24:41.079 Cellcore.com. 00:24:41.400 --> 00:24:44.519 You can find the uh registration link for anybody for the eco conference. 00:24:46.039 --> 00:24:46.279 Thank you. 00:24:46.440 --> 00:24:47.480 No attachments here, right? 00:24:47.559 --> 00:24:57.160 There's no financial, no emotional, no other attachments other than me saying, I'm happy to um propose this or make this happen because it it was such an experience for me. 00:24:57.319 --> 00:24:59.319 It was it's been such an influence on my journey. 00:24:59.480 --> 00:25:04.279 But how the heck, part of that for me, that first year and every year after, like literally every year, okay? 00:25:04.360 --> 00:25:09.559 I mean, I go into every year going like, you gotta keep your expectations kind of tempered, Mark. 00:25:09.640 --> 00:25:12.279 Like you can't expect lightning to hit twice, right? 00:25:12.440 --> 00:25:13.640 Much less five, six

years. 00:25:13.720 --> 00:25:14.600 And I I'm not kidding. 00:25:14.680 --> 00:25:17.400 Like I cried four out of five times or five out of six times, whatever it's been. 00:25:17.480 --> 00:25:18.120 I'm I'm not kidding. 00:25:18.200 --> 00:25:18.840 There's only one time. 00:25:18.920 --> 00:25:19.880 I was like, oh, there you go. 00:25:19.960 --> 00:25:21.079 Like it doesn't happen every time. 00:25:21.400 --> 00:25:26.840 And it's not just about I mean, sometimes it's as you described, the the practitioners giving um a presentation. 00:25:26.920 --> 00:25:30.440 And then I still remember, I won't I don't remember her name, but I remember that individual. 00:25:30.519 --> 00:25:32.360 She's um a practitioner in Canada. 00:25:32.519 --> 00:25:35.720 She's worked with like, you know, Olympic athletes, and like you'll know who I'm talking about. 00:25:35.880 --> 00:25:36.120 I do. 00:25:36.360 --> 00:25:45.720 And I mean, the mount the amount of genuinity about her talking about uh how much she healed and how appreciative she was and just uh her her tearfulness, I was I mean, I I get emotional just thinking about that. 00:25:45.799 --> 00:25:47.880 And that was what, three years ago, maybe or something like that, right? 00:25:47.960 --> 00:25:51.400 I the number of the amount of impact you guys have had, it's it's just beyond. 00:25:51.559 --> 00:25:53.400 But the cell core community, right? 00:25:53.559 --> 00:26:03.559 How the heck is it that you guys found or fostered and nurtured such an emotionally empathetic and positive energy? 00:26:03.640 --> 00:26:05.319 I positive it's too trivial word. 00:26:05.400 --> 00:26:06.120 I don't even know what to use. 00:26:06.200 --> 00:26:07.880 This that heartfelt community. 00:26:07.960 --> 00:26:09.160 Like how did that happen? 00:26:09.319 --> 00:26:12.360 Was that was that even intentional or designed in any kind of way? 00:26:12.519 --> 00:26:14.440 Or is that just like a gift that just happened? 00:26:14.680 --> 00:26:15.960 No, that's a that just happened. 00:26:16.039 --> 00:26:17.720 That's just who we are, that's just who I am. 00:26:18.039 --> 00:26:23.240 And that's it's interesting because I'll have people come up to me and say, Todd, this is this is here because of you. 00:26:23.400 --> 00:26:24.680 You're the heart of the company. 00:26:24.840 --> 00:26:25.079 Yeah. 00:26:25.319 --> 00:26:33.559 And it it's uh to me, it's more important that we're getting information out to practitioners to become the best practitioner that they can be and how they can help their patients. 00:26:33.720 --> 00:26:35.079 I don't care about selling the products. 00:26:35.319 --> 00:26:39.559 I care about is I care about helping the practitioner help their patients. 00:26:39.720 --> 00:26:44.200 And it's just we attract, we attract those heartfelt practitioners. 00:26:44.519 --> 00:26:46.920 We attract who, you know, who were like you, right? 00:26:47.079 --> 00:26:50.600 Because that's who was drawn to um Cellcore. 00:26:50.920 --> 00:27:01.559 And so we just attracted a lot of people that just were heartfelt based, that want to help people, that want to do good, that want to help, and move the move life forward for people. 00:27:01.720 --> 00:27:03.960 And uh, you know, we just started doing it. 00:27:04.120 --> 00:27:07.720 Just the initial one was was like, oh, let's just throw a thing. 00:27:07.799 --> 00:27:10.440 It was 85 people practitioners who wanted the education. 00:27:10.600 --> 00:27:13.960 They wanted us to put like our process together for them and teach us. 00:27:14.039 --> 00:27:17.640 So Jay and I'd talk for three straight days before we had other practitioners. 00:27:17.720 --> 00:27:20.120 And the next one we we taught for the same thing. 00:27:20.279 --> 00:27:25.319 And then there's another the third one, I think we taught the muscle testing, and then that like five straight days. 00:27:25.400 --> 00:27:26.759 And Jay's like, never again. 00:27:26.920 --> 00:27:27.799 It's too much. 00:27:28.039 --> 00:27:29.720 But then we brought other practitioners. 00:27:29.799 --> 00:27:36.279 So then we only spoke like once a day, but we brought practitioners experts in their areas to help come share what was working for everybody. 00:27:36.440 --> 00:27:38.039 Like we don't need to teach everything. 00:27:38.120 --> 00:27:39.319 We're not experts on everything. 00:27:39.400 --> 00:27:56.600 We're just experts on what we do, but yet people are using these products in all different areas, you know, from cardiology to hormone, you know, preconception to, you know, breast implant illness, you know, mold illness, to Lyme disease, to parasite infections, to autoimmune disease, to autism, right? 00:27:56.840 --> 00:27:59.720 These amazing stories on autism and how it's reversed. 00:27:59.960 --> 00:28:10.440 And I've had a lot of kids I've worked with that have had phenomenal results, and their parents are super grateful because you know their functions function at such a higher level than where they were when they were totally non-verbal. 00:28:10.840 --> 00:28:14.920 So it's uh I think it goes back to our intention, it's just to help, and that's it. 00:28:15.000 --> 00:28:16.519 It's just to help, and we love people. 00:28:16.680 --> 00:28:17.480 That's who we are. 00:28:17.720 --> 00:28:20.519 Yeah, it's just it's it's I can't really speak to it. 00:28:20.680 --> 00:28:24.840 It's it's sort of almost dishonoring it trying to describe it, but it's it's just amazing. 00:28:25.000 --> 00:28:25.400 I don't know. 00:28:25.480 --> 00:28:26.120 It's just amazing. 00:28:26.360 --> 00:28:33.160 Yeah, I I that's the only thing that comes to my mind as well, is just it's a trickle-down effect from who you and Jay are, right? 00:28:33.240 --> 00:28:36.519 You guys are it's an interesting, you know, observing you guys, it's a little bit like yin and yang. 00:28:36.680 --> 00:28:40.440 You you're different personalities and such, but it's it's such an

a unique balance. 00:28:40.519 --> 00:28:51.640 And um and I've and I've said this to colleagues many times that uh there's there's you can tell it's it's it's it's infectious, it's contagious, the the conviction, right? 00:28:51.799 --> 00:28:52.759 The conviction, passion. 00:28:52.840 --> 00:28:58.440 I mean, I might say, hey, I person uh my personality and makeup aligns much more with like Dr. 00:28:58.600 --> 00:28:59.640 Todd's personality than Dr. 00:28:59.720 --> 00:29:00.759 J's, but there's parts of Dr. 00:29:00.920 --> 00:29:03.799 J's that like I love that, like that, that right? 00:29:03.880 --> 00:29:05.960 That that kind of like kind of drive feeling. 00:29:06.039 --> 00:29:13.079 Like, man, like you know, when I was growing up in my early like spiritual walk, like I loved listening to the black community church pastors. 00:29:13.400 --> 00:29:13.880 Yes, totally. 00:29:14.279 --> 00:29:16.200 I was like, yeah, bring it on, right? 00:29:16.440 --> 00:29:17.160 Because it's not me. 00:29:17.240 --> 00:29:24.600 I'm such a quiet guy, but like, oh yeah, when someone else is doing that, you know, and I can like live it through them vicariously, I'm like, yeah, yeah, get me there. 00:29:24.680 --> 00:29:25.880 I'm I'm there with you, right? 00:29:26.120 --> 00:29:30.600 So it's it's such an interesting balance between you guys and but yeah, I'm not I'm not surprised. 00:29:30.680 --> 00:29:33.079 Uh it's just you guys have done an amazing job. 00:29:33.160 --> 00:29:41.160 And again, it's not just about the company, it's not just about the products, it's it's that community and the um the impact that that then has in service to to patients. 00:29:41.400 --> 00:29:49.079 Yeah, the practitioners as patients as well, them getting better, but then that just trickles down even, you know, that's a magnifold influential impact on patients that they see. 00:29:49.160 --> 00:29:53.079 Because that that's a that fuels when we when we experience ourselves, right? 00:29:53.160 --> 00:29:56.920 We we well know this, it it fuels us like for for such a long time. 00:29:57.240 --> 00:30:09.960 Because this is not an easy thing dealing with patients who are so chronically and complexly sick, but part of where we get the fuel is seeing the breakthroughs and when we see it, and much less when we get experience ourselves, like that that is sustaining energy, right? 00:30:10.039 --> 00:30:19.720 And then when you see it in other people, much less practitioner colleagues who might also be skeptical in background and nature and all that, uh it just the impact is is exponential. 00:30:19.880 --> 00:30:23.480 So uh anyway, I'm just I'm just bragging on you guys, but it's it's but it's genuine. 00:30:23.640 --> 00:30:25.000 So, but let's speaking of Dr. 00:30:25.160 --> 00:30:25.319 J. 00:30:25.559 --> 00:30:34.519 So you talked about how you know that was a great, um, a special place in your heart with that history with he and his wife's uh her his wife's journey, specifically, her health journey. 00:30:34.600 --> 00:30:36.200 But flipping it around, I'm curious. 00:30:36.360 --> 00:30:40.360 I've never asked you, like, what kind of ways come to your mind in terms of how he's made you a better person? 00:30:40.680 --> 00:30:43.400 So J Jay is he he's just fun to be around, right? 00:30:43.480 --> 00:30:43.880 Yeah. 00:30:44.120 --> 00:30:48.759 Uh part of what helps is I'm more of that analytical guy, similar to you, right? 00:30:48.920 --> 00:30:50.600 I'm more analytical, a little more quiet. 00:30:50.680 --> 00:30:53.640 I don't like to be on stage uh in front of people speaking. 00:30:53.720 --> 00:30:55.079 That that's really hard for me. 00:30:55.240 --> 00:30:56.440 Uh Disa was. 00:30:57.000 --> 00:31:01.960 Um, so he I'll I'll work on our product and it'll be three years, two and a half years. 00:31:02.039 --> 00:31:05.720 And he's like, Todd, it's good enough to get it to the market to get people to help people. 00:31:05.880 --> 00:31:12.039 And so he really helped me to learn how to stop overanalyzing, you know, get that analysis paralysis type thing. 00:31:12.120 --> 00:31:12.759 Yeah. 00:31:13.160 --> 00:31:14.680 And just go with it. 00:31:14.840 --> 00:31:20.120 I mean, I remember first when we first started, we first met, you know, as I Todd, we're getting to know each other. 00:31:20.279 --> 00:31:22.039 Like, you know so much already. 00:31:22.200 --> 00:31:25.799 Just put your time and effort into getting out there and educating people. 00:31:25.960 --> 00:31:28.759 You don't need to keep going to all these seminars and learning all these different stuff. 00:31:28.920 --> 00:31:32.039 You already know incredible amounts that these other people don't even know. 00:31:32.200 --> 00:31:33.000 Just be confident. 00:31:33.079 --> 00:31:34.200 You're a great practitioner. 00:31:34.360 --> 00:31:37.240 And as analytical people, it's like we can never know enough, right? 00:31:37.400 --> 00:31:37.640 Yeah. 00:31:38.279 --> 00:31:43.720 And so he helped bring a lot of confidence into myself as well as just like, hey, let's get stuff started. 00:31:43.880 --> 00:31:44.920 Let's move things forward. 00:31:45.000 --> 00:31:51.000 And, you know, let's, you know, you're you're his encouragement to speak and and his abilities. 00:31:51.079 --> 00:31:56.039 I learned so much on his ability to like put together these protocols and the education. 00:31:56.120 --> 00:31:58.600 Like, he's so good at like lining things out. 00:31:58.759 --> 00:32:00.200 I have all that stuff up in here. 00:32:00.360 --> 00:32:04.600 He's great at extracting it out of here and putting it all out on paper and then teaching it. 00:32:04.680 --> 00:32:06.200 Like his superpower is amazing. 00:32:06.279 --> 00:32:06.840 That's awesome. 00:32:07.240 --> 00:32:12.200 And so I laughed because it took years and he's like, How'd you come up with the name Cell Core? 00:32:12.360 --> 00:32:17.799 And one day I was well, you

know, it it's you know, the power of the cell, the core of the cell, right? 00:32:17.960 --> 00:32:19.480 Power of the cell is mitochondria. 00:32:19.720 --> 00:32:22.360 And so, you know, that's that's kind of where I was looking at it. 00:32:22.440 --> 00:32:24.440 It's like, hey, you gotta have energy to power everything. 00:32:24.519 --> 00:32:25.559 So cell core. 00:32:25.720 --> 00:32:28.519 And um, he, you know, he didn't know all these stories. 00:32:28.600 --> 00:32:33.559 We've been partners for several years, and it's just so funny how he's always, you know, I recall that. 00:32:33.640 --> 00:32:34.840 I recall that when you guys were on stage. 00:32:34.920 --> 00:32:43.000 I don't think it like was in the moment that he learned that, but I think that was pretty much like it was just in the recent months before that, and that was only probably like three years ago. 00:32:44.120 --> 00:32:49.720 So funny, and uh we'd laugh because uh for me, I'm such an internal processor, yeah. 00:32:49.960 --> 00:32:56.759 And um, and so a lot of the stuff was just getting it out of my brain, and him and Ryan were great at doing that. 00:32:56.920 --> 00:33:00.920 Uh and just his his positivity and energy is just contagious. 00:33:01.160 --> 00:33:02.360 He loves the challenge, right? 00:33:02.440 --> 00:33:06.440 He's the guy who's gonna challenge the current narrative and his ability to research. 00:33:06.519 --> 00:33:11.720 Like he's our amazing researcher, and to bring it and put it into words and present it is incredible. 00:33:11.880 --> 00:33:18.759 So I've learned a lot through all of that, and then even the way he thinks through on patient care and his experience with that, and it's just been awesome. 00:33:18.840 --> 00:33:31.480 We we just blend together, like our you know, one of my mentors at our first conference, he's in his 70s, close to 80 now, but back then in the early 70s, and he he made a comment to me afterwards like, Did you guys practice your presentations together? 00:33:31.640 --> 00:33:33.960 Like when you're up there, like who's gonna speak what and what you're doing? 00:33:34.120 --> 00:33:37.079 And it's like, no, we just get up there and we just roll. 00:33:37.240 --> 00:33:38.840 Our chemistry is amazing. 00:33:39.000 --> 00:33:39.400 Yeah. 00:33:39.640 --> 00:33:42.840 And so I mean, we were band grooming good friends. 00:33:43.000 --> 00:33:51.799 He went to his house in uh in November and he comes out twice in the summer to go to the desert with us to go you know with the razors and camping and stuff. 00:33:51.880 --> 00:33:55.799 And uh he's just an incredible uh individual that uh you're a friend of mine. 00:33:56.360 --> 00:33:57.000 Such a gift. 00:33:57.559 --> 00:33:57.720 Yeah. 00:33:57.960 --> 00:33:59.559 Unplanned, unscripted in life. 00:33:59.720 --> 00:34:00.759 That's such a gift. 00:34:01.000 --> 00:34:10.759 And I imagine some of that's got to translated into personal life also, you know, outside of so

core workplace, patient care, in terms of that uh, hey, perfection, progress, progress over perfection, that kind of stuff. 00:34:11.000 --> 00:34:14.440 Yep, it helped me a lot, for sure, on uh on in all levels of life. 00:34:14.599 --> 00:34:18.279 Yeah, just moving moving forward, not not just holding back until it's perfect. 00:34:18.519 --> 00:34:22.759 It'll get perfect as you're doing it and that you just practiced it like any, like anything. 00:34:22.920 --> 00:34:27.799 You can think about tennis all you want, but until you're out there actually doing the strokes, you're not gonna get really good at it. 00:34:27.960 --> 00:34:29.639 So put into action. 00:34:30.039 --> 00:34:31.240 Practitioners are the same way. 00:34:31.320 --> 00:34:32.760 We're all we're all practicing, right? 00:34:33.000 --> 00:34:33.800 Yeah, no, I love that. 00:34:33.960 --> 00:34:44.119 I love that uh message because uh I question that oftentimes myself, uh whether to myself or to for colleagues, and not in a judgy way, just a observational and reflection way. 00:34:44.280 --> 00:34:49.400 And so maybe this is a message that we could throw out here right now for practitioners to say, hey, in the same way that Dr. 00:34:49.639 --> 00:34:54.599 J had um encouraged and influenced you in that regard, like you're showing up. 00:34:54.760 --> 00:34:56.760 You know a lot, you know more than you know. 00:34:57.159 --> 00:35:00.119 More that you know more you're more equipped than you believe you are. 00:35:00.440 --> 00:35:10.360 Just show up and be confident and um and know that you're bringing more to the table than, you know, again, 99% of what most people experience with healthcare, right? 00:35:10.440 --> 00:35:13.480 Uh whether it's because of the systems or the individuals or the practitioners, it doesn't matter. 00:35:13.639 --> 00:35:19.240 The thing is you're bringing more to the table in spades than everybody else just because number one, you care. 00:35:19.320 --> 00:35:22.039 And number two, you have more tools than you than you realize. 00:35:22.199 --> 00:35:23.960 Just become just just put it in action. 00:35:24.119 --> 00:35:28.280 And so I'm sure there's a lot of practice, because we you and I both know there's a lot of practitioners who do that a lot. 00:35:28.360 --> 00:35:33.000 It's like that we become professional conference um attendees, right? 00:35:33.159 --> 00:35:34.199 Like a conference groupies. 00:35:34.360 --> 00:35:36.199 Like we're always trying to learn more, learn more. 00:35:36.280 --> 00:35:38.360 And I do question that sometimes with individuals. 00:35:38.440 --> 00:35:43.240 Again, not as critici criticism, just sometimes I'm a couple of times I've said the same thing. 00:35:43.400 --> 00:35:45.400 Hey, like, why are you going to that conference? 00:35:45.559 --> 00:35:46.760 Why why are you going to that conference? 00:35:46.920 --> 00:35:48.039 Like, do you need to? 00:35:48.360 --> 00:35:50.199 You just talked about how time, money, whatever. 00:35:50.440 --> 00:35:58.599 Yeah, we're not we're not gonna be God and solve be able to know everything with the human body, but when you have the heart and you show up, you bring you bring so much more to the table than you realize. 00:35:58.920 --> 00:36:00.920 As you said, bringing the the hope as a first place, right? 00:36:01.000 --> 00:36:02.440 Just as a first point of basis. 00:36:02.679 --> 00:36:05.320 So maybe we land on this with the last kind of question here. 00:36:05.480 --> 00:36:08.760 So we're talking now about uh patient experiences, right? 00:36:08.920 --> 00:36:13.400 And um we're all about trying to we're just collectively are all about trying to help people, right? 00:36:13.480 --> 00:36:18.760 Being of service, fulfilling a missional heart intent individually, collectively as practitioners. 00:36:19.000 --> 00:36:28.119 Do you have any thoughts on what's most needed by patients for sort of like in on a more systems level these days, uh more optimal healthcare delivery, right? 00:36:28.199 --> 00:36:38.920 In this sort of functional medicine or foundational medicine, this integrated medicine arena specifically, where we're not talking about we we could get into arguments about insurance coverage and whatever else, but let's leave that to the side, okay? 00:36:39.000 --> 00:36:42.440 Because that's just too complicated and I don't know that I ever see that happening anyway, right? 00:36:42.519 --> 00:36:46.679 Um have any thoughts on how more patients can get better faster? 00:36:46.840 --> 00:36:48.119 You know, is it systems of care? 00:36:48.280 --> 00:36:49.639 Is it regulation changes? 00:36:49.800 --> 00:37:03.639 Is it uh any thoughts on what's happening with AI and such, or maybe thoughts on how practitioners can be more effective in individually, especially those who are kind of like struggling to struggling on some level on a sort of a business level? 00:37:03.880 --> 00:37:05.960 That's probably a lot of sub-questions, I apologize. 00:37:06.119 --> 00:37:06.840 Pick and choose. 00:37:07.159 --> 00:37:15.400 Yeah, so on a business level for practitioners, part of part of what I've coached other practitioners on is like, what do you want? 00:37:15.480 --> 00:37:19.639 And they like, oh, I want this clinic, I'm gonna have this big clinic, people come in, and I want to do this, this, and that. 00:37:19.800 --> 00:37:21.720 And I'm like, all right, that's great. 00:37:21.960 --> 00:37:22.920 Let's step back first. 00:37:23.079 --> 00:37:24.280 What do you want on a personal level? 00:37:24.360 --> 00:37:25.320 What do you want at your home? 00:37:25.480 --> 00:37:30.360 Oh, I want more free time, I want to spend more time with my kids, I want to be able to have trips and do things. 00:37:30.519 --> 00:37:39.480 So everything we're gonna build your clinic of is gonna be based off of what your personal needs are, because that's where life is fulfilled, not what you accomplish in your clinic.

00:37:39.639 --> 00:37:46.360 So once you're solid on your basis of what you want to accomplish there, then you can build your goals around being sure that you can create the life that you want. 00:37:46.519 --> 00:37:50.280 Right up here, you can see it this thing right here, it's a little ocean picture behind me. 00:37:50.360 --> 00:37:51.639 It says create the life that you want. 00:37:51.720 --> 00:37:55.159 That was our motto for 2025 and for our family. 00:37:55.320 --> 00:37:59.960 And that's where it has to start is in in in in in anything, right? 00:38:00.039 --> 00:38:01.800 For anybody in any career. 00:38:02.039 --> 00:38:05.159 You want to create the life you want, and you have to identify what that's gonna be. 00:38:05.320 --> 00:38:06.679 And then you build around that. 00:38:06.840 --> 00:38:16.599 And then your goals, once you're more clear on that, then you can say, okay, you need a niche, and then from there, then do a deep dive into that niche and become an expert and then be able to get that message out for success. 00:38:16.920 --> 00:38:19.079 But you know, what's gonna change things? 00:38:19.240 --> 00:38:21.320 I think one several things. 00:38:21.480 --> 00:38:28.039 One, if we can get RFK Junior up there, FDA to pass a few things, really stop regulating peptides. 00:38:28.119 --> 00:38:29.960 I think peptides can be very beneficial. 00:38:30.119 --> 00:38:32.119 And then the other one is plant-based medicine. 00:38:32.360 --> 00:38:42.199 Because I think through plant-based medicine, more it goes deeper into a healing process that I've seen some of my really chronically patient, chronic patients I couldn't make headway with. 00:38:42.280 --> 00:38:45.639 They had phenomenal results with acilocybin, NVMe. 00:38:46.119 --> 00:38:50.119 Um, you know, I've had a niece that go down to Mexico for ibogaine. 00:38:50.280 --> 00:39:03.800 Uh there, there's there's just a lot of options out there for, you know, everywhere from concussions, brain, depression, anxiety, trauma, PTSD, all these things that everybody is holding on to some type of trauma. 00:39:03.960 --> 00:39:06.039 But some people have had a lot more trauma than others. 00:39:06.199 --> 00:39:08.360 That's being stored, that's affecting their health. 00:39:08.519 --> 00:39:11.559 So as those things, you you see a lot of progress in that area right now. 00:39:11.639 --> 00:39:19.880 I'm hoping that that can move forward because once that opens up, it'll open up a whole new level of healing that I think no but people can't even comprehend. 00:39:20.199 --> 00:39:22.039 Yeah, I valid I second validate that. 00:39:22.119 --> 00:39:25.320 Uh, we were just talking about a conference I went to in December, you know, humongo conference. 00:39:25.400 --> 00:39:26.679 And there's a humongous talk on that. 00:39:26.760 --> 00:39:28.119 That was really eye-opening for me. 00:39:28.199 --> 00:39:38.599 And then I've subsequently had a number of patients, um yeah, uh not not ten, but I've had a uh far more than ever before patients who've now stepped into that world a bit. 00:39:38.679 --> 00:39:40.599 And yeah, it's pretty eye-punning for me for sure. 00:39:40.760 --> 00:39:42.119 I I validate that for sure. 00:39:42.440 --> 00:39:46.039 And and then from there just, you know, having the hope. 00:39:46.199 --> 00:39:49.159 And if if if it's not there, then these things can really, really be beneficial. 00:39:49.320 --> 00:39:57.159 But peptide, I think I think the future a lot of it is peptides, plant-based medicine, and then this regular stuff, what we do, right? 00:39:57.400 --> 00:40:04.760 Basically the cell core protocols have are addressing so many of the underlying issues of what we're dealing with in today's environment of toxicity. 00:40:05.079 --> 00:40:11.559 So you gotta be very cognitive, you know, cognizant of toxicity uh in today's environment. 00:40:11.880 --> 00:40:12.760 Yeah, yeah. 00:40:13.400 --> 00:40:17.639 And that's a that's a lot of what um obviously that's a that's a huge part of what SellCore is about. 00:40:17.720 --> 00:40:25.079 And it's and again, I it's really striking to me how much the um the topic about emotional energy and and here, you know, even going further, talking about trauma. 00:40:25.240 --> 00:40:36.760 That's it's I mean, I've heard that for so many years and various conferences and talks and this and that, but uh I mean, I'm still now to this day, I'm still finding that the the depth of that is it's so impressionable on me and so eye-opening. 00:40:37.000 --> 00:40:45.880 It's it's such an interesting dichotomy, you know, in the soccer world, talking about on the one hand, a lot of this, you know, toxins and really granular cellular biology, physiology stuff. 00:40:45.960 --> 00:40:55.320 And on the other hand, like you there's a huge emphasis and spotlight on that whole emotional energy piece and even energy in general in the soccer community. 00:40:55.400 --> 00:40:58.440 It's such an interesting dichotomy, and I just uh yeah, I just really appreciate that. 00:40:58.519 --> 00:41:03.960 And let's say it's it's very it's very fueling and um resonant for me internally. 00:41:04.280 --> 00:41:17.000 Yeah, the purpose of that question really, you know, just kind of bring it to application is if you're a practitioner hearing this, then uh my argument, and feel free to chime in or edit me, correct me, uh if you're a practitioner, hey, there's some free coaching right there, right? 00:41:17.159 --> 00:41:21.960 On not just starting a practice or a professional journey, but it's sustaining, right? 00:41:22.039 --> 00:41:23.960 And it's never too late to pivot and modify. 00:41:24.039 --> 00:41:30.840 And and I'm sitting here reflecting for myself, even both my wife and I, you know, my wife is, I often say to people, she's busier than I am professionally. 00:41:31.000 --> 00:41:32.280 Um, it's just kind of chaotic. 00:41:32.360 --> 00:41:34.920 So yeah, there's there's free

coaching right there for us as practitioners. 00:41:35.079 --> 00:41:42.280 If you're a patient, the application here is um this is partly what what happens in patient experience with practitioners. 00:41:42.440 --> 00:41:51.400 I I've had patients say things like, yeah, the I was working with so-and-so, and they always were kind of working with me this way, and then something just changed, right? 00:41:51.559 --> 00:42:04.119 Like either the way the office or the practice kind of operated, or sort of the the communication dynamics, or there there's some kind of like emotional shift that they couldn't really well explain, you know, in terms of synergy or collaboration, whatever it is. 00:42:04.280 --> 00:42:12.440 And this isn't a value bias assessment, uh, value-attached commentary that um look, people we're pee we're still people, and things can change. 00:42:12.519 --> 00:42:20.440 And so as a patient, I'm regularly trying to help when they're working when we're talking about their experiences with other practitioners, uh, I don't care if it's conventional, functional, whatever. 00:42:20.599 --> 00:42:35.320 I'm commonly saying like trying to encourage them and to to have some insight on what might be happening on the back end, whether with that practitioner or the system, the local system, larger systems, and how do you navigate that so that you can get your best outcome as a patient because that's you're the person we care about. 00:42:35.400 --> 00:42:35.480 Yeah. 00:42:35.720 --> 00:42:44.039 But it's it's not a it's not it's not a transactional like buying something off of um the web or Amazon or whatever, you know, and just pay my credit card and it comes back. 00:42:44.199 --> 00:42:45.639 It's it's more complicated than that. 00:42:45.960 --> 00:42:46.599 It is. 00:42:47.159 --> 00:42:47.720 For sure. 00:42:47.880 --> 00:42:49.720 Well, I appreciate your time today, Mark. 00:42:49.800 --> 00:42:50.760 I I love it. 00:42:51.079 --> 00:42:51.880 Conversations with you. 00:42:52.039 --> 00:42:54.119 I I know you and I could talk for hours and hours. 00:42:54.280 --> 00:42:55.559 Yeah, it's just it's just awesome. 00:42:55.639 --> 00:43:01.960 I really enjoy the the deep thoughts and um even the deep science we get into at times. 00:43:02.199 --> 00:43:17.559 Um I love seeing how you've changed over over the years of where you're so analytical to where you've embraced a little bit more of the heartfelt and energetic work, which is like, wow, an MD uh is actually doing this. 00:43:18.440 --> 00:43:18.840 Wow. 00:43:19.079 --> 00:43:20.119 All the time, every day. 00:43:20.360 --> 00:43:22.280 Every day, multiple times a day. 00:43:22.599 --> 00:43:27.720 You you've embraced it and just has flourished and just helping so many people, and that's just so awesome to see. 00:43:27.880 --> 00:43:29.400 Thanks for thanks for helping people out. 00:43:29.639 --> 00:43:32.199 Yeah, no, thanks for your your uh influence in mentorship. 00:43:32.280 --> 00:43:38.039 I still remember that first eco I went to, one of those things, one of those memories was um at the end, I remember I was speaking analytical. 00:43:38.119 --> 00:43:38.840 I was sitting there at the table. 00:43:38.920 --> 00:43:40.519 I think the conference had already ended, right? 00:43:40.599 --> 00:43:41.880 They're cleaning up the room. 00:43:42.039 --> 00:43:47.079 I'm sitting there at the table, like I don't know if I was reviewing notes or writing something down or whatever, and out of the corner of my eye, there comes Dr. 00:43:47.240 --> 00:43:47.880 Todd Watts. 00:43:47.960 --> 00:43:50.039 He sits down, you know, it's like, hey, thanks for coming. 00:43:50.199 --> 00:43:50.679 How are you doing? 00:43:50.840 --> 00:43:53.559 And it's it I just felt like, wow, he's like, how does he have time for this? 00:43:53.639 --> 00:43:55.000 But um anyway, that's who you are. 00:43:55.079 --> 00:43:56.280 So that's why I invited you. 00:43:56.360 --> 00:44:05.559 That's why I'm sitting here um uh, you know, uh of my own volition, saying, Hey, if you're a practitioner thinking about eco at all, um it's not it's not too late. 00:44:05.639 --> 00:44:08.440 Um it's uh tell me the day date scan, you probably have it off the top of your head. 00:44:08.519 --> 00:44:09.400 Is it first weekend of May? 00:44:09.639 --> 00:44:10.519 First weekend of May, yeah. 00:44:10.760 --> 00:44:11.000 Okay. 00:44:11.159 --> 00:44:13.800 I mean, I've I've got it find out, but I just don't remember the dates off the top of my head. 00:44:13.880 --> 00:44:17.240 I couldn't remember if it's the first, second weekend, but um Yeah, it's an awesome time. 00:44:17.320 --> 00:44:18.679 I love I personally I love Boise. 00:44:18.920 --> 00:44:19.720 Boise, not Boise. 00:44:20.119 --> 00:44:20.920 Boise, right? 00:44:21.159 --> 00:44:21.320 Right. 00:44:23.960 --> 00:44:24.519 I love Boise. 00:44:24.840 --> 00:44:25.880 I love that downtown area. 00:44:26.039 --> 00:44:30.840 If you're interested in going, hey, uh, there's there's some discount uh codes you can use if you're registering online. 00:44:30.920 --> 00:44:36.199 You can DM us if we won't um, you know, there's there's ways to help help get you in. 00:44:36.280 --> 00:44:41.639 And um if you if you go and we've never met before, if you're a practitioner, yeah, feel free to to find me. 00:44:41.800 --> 00:44:44.519 I'll introduce you to folks and uh would love to see you there. 00:44:44.679 --> 00:44:46.039 So anyway, thanks, thanks, Todd. 00:44:46.119 --> 00:44:46.679 Really appreciate it. 00:44:46.840 --> 00:44:47.800 Been wanting to do this for a bit. 00:44:48.039 --> 00:44:49.400 Timing seemed like it was a good fit. 00:44:49.480 --> 00:44:51.400 So um looking forward to see you in Boise. 00:44:51.639 --> 00:44:52.039 Likewise. 00:44:52.199 --> 00:44:52.679 See you soon. 00:44:53.000 --> 00:44:53.720 Thanks.