Transkrip penuh untuk Sopranos, Ridley Scott and Trailer Philosophy

breaking bad and we in the last season we watched is it breaking 60 00:04:43.800 --> 00:04:49.879 bad than Chris Hardwick bless is so clost to a show right after talking bad, 61 00:04:49.959 --> 00:04:54.629 where they like, you know, where they just talking about the episode 62 00:04:54.629 --> 00:04:58.029 or whatever. And like I think Vince Gilvigan was on and for the first 63 00:04:58.069 --> 00:05:00.829 episode of season five and he was like Oh yeah, like we had no 64 00:05:00.870 --> 00:05:05.029 idea where we were going when we wrote Walter in that diner on his birthday 65 00:05:05.069 --> 00:05:08.579 with that gun in the trunk. We just we wrote that scene and kind 66 00:05:08.620 --> 00:05:12.139 of like made up around that. My Dad was furious. He was like, 67 00:05:12.819 --> 00:05:15.459 damn it, they had the sopranos planned out from the beginning to the 68 00:05:15.540 --> 00:05:19.620 end. Oh, did do they are, like did they? That's they 69 00:05:19.699 --> 00:05:28.129 had it everything planned out. What's the guys? Naw, like the you 70 00:05:28.209 --> 00:05:30.449 know, the guy that liked made the show. What? David Chase? 71 00:05:30.490 --> 00:05:32.970 David Chase? Yeah, yeah, that's what my Dad Yeah, my dad 72 00:05:32.970 --> 00:05:36.439 was a David Chase. Knew at all, like I guess my dad is 73 00:05:36.920 --> 00:05:43.160 is George of course, kind of assumed that whenever a TV show is made, 74 00:05:43.199 --> 00:05:47.040 they have like they don't really have an idea of like like a clear 75 00:05:47.199 --> 00:05:50.670 idea of how they're gonna do the beginning, middle and and it's kind of 76 00:05:50.750 --> 00:05:55.110 like we'll just figure it out as we go along. We're just hoping that's 77 00:05:55.310 --> 00:06:00.949 canceled at the right but that's cool that he had it all plans out, 78 00:06:00.990 --> 00:06:03.579 though change doesn't deserve all the part of the skin of that little weird and 79 00:06:03.699 --> 00:06:08.899 season five and season six, I think there's like a clear dropoff from the 80 00:06:08.980 --> 00:06:14.379 first few seasons to kind of my favorite season. For Yeah, that's my 81 00:06:14.500 --> 00:06:17.379 favorite season exactly. You get to the height and then maybe it's just because 82 00:06:17.420 --> 00:06:23.209 in comparison, but I'm liking the like the ending half of season six. 83 00:06:23.329 --> 00:06:26.250 Here I was, I was about to say season six kind of part two 84 00:06:26.290 --> 00:06:31.449 or whatever, whatever. The last like four episode arc I thought was just 85 00:06:33.040 --> 00:06:38.279 mommy because he's breaking beds. kind of like that, because like he's the 86 00:06:38.399 --> 00:06:42.160 fifth season of breaking bed isn't the best season, but it's a really good 87 00:06:42.240 --> 00:06:46.519 conclusion, you know, like how like the ladder. The last half of 88 00:06:46.079 --> 00:06:51.350 season five is like yeah, it is awesome,

but I think, HMM, 89 00:06:53.189 --> 00:06:56.350 maybe season for yeah, maybe season four of breaking bad's part of the 90 00:06:56.430 --> 00:07:00.389 best, like looking with the stuff with the lily of the valley, when 91 00:07:00.389 --> 00:07:05.379 he calls like Skyler and he's like I won like yeah, I've seen breaking 92 00:07:05.459 --> 00:07:10.620 bad once. This years ago. I'm trying to I'm trying to think. 93 00:07:10.660 --> 00:07:15.610 I think. I think the probably the height of the series was when like 94 00:07:15.889 --> 00:07:20.610 Walt truly becomes like an earredemobile person, because that's kind of where it flips. 95 00:07:20.649 --> 00:07:25.769 So I think it's the moment. I'm not like some savant for pointing 96 00:07:25.810 --> 00:07:29.170 out the moment where like there's no return, is kind of when he doesn't 97 00:07:29.410 --> 00:07:33.079 Jesse's girlfriend, he doesn't like push her to her side to let her I 98 00:07:33.199 --> 00:07:38.160 think after that moment. That was probably the peak because I think there we 99 00:07:38.240 --> 00:07:44.790 were still at this like place where Walt hadn't completely broke bad and by that 100 00:07:44.910 --> 00:07:46.509 point, like it was over for him, like he made a choice, 101 00:07:46.670 --> 00:07:50.790 like he is that guy and there is no turning back. So I feel 102 00:07:50.829 --> 00:07:54.350 like that was kind of the peak of breaking back. But not to say 103 00:07:54.389 --> 00:07:58.310 that, like oze Mandy Hasay isn't one of the five best absolute theories, 104 00:07:58.470 --> 00:08:01.579 you know, but as a whole, I think that's where probably was that 105 00:08:01.699 --> 00:08:05.660 it's best. Well, like Walter even mentioned it, like it's a really 106 00:08:05.699 --> 00:08:09.139 important moment in fly, like I don't know, that's one of my favorite 107 00:08:09.139 --> 00:08:13.170 episodes. I think flies awesome, like and because of moments like that. 108 00:08:13.290 --> 00:08:18.569 We're Walter's like he remembers like the last moment in his in his life before, 109 00:08:18.610 --> 00:08:20.410 yeah, before you like broke bad. It was like it's like right 110 00:08:20.569 --> 00:08:24.970 right before he let Jane Die. Yeah, and yeah, like he totally 111 00:08:24.970 --> 00:08:31.240 highlights at your your like that's a quite astute just I just can't wait to 112 00:08:31.480 --> 00:08:37.360 get to get to the infamous last scene of the Sopranos. I just can't 113 00:08:37.360 --> 00:08:41.830 get to experience that for the first time. Text me after yeah, I'm 114 00:08:43.309 --> 00:08:46.710 I will let you know. I thought it was great, but, HMM, 115 00:08:46.830 --> 00:08:52.269 it's controversial, right, so I think it's controversial for midwits and dim 116 00:08:52.389 --> 00:08:58.179 wits. Like I think very it'll be. It will be very clear to 117 00:08:58.259 --> 00:09:01.259 you that it was, it was good, or if you don't like

it, 118 00:09:01.419 --> 00:09:07.019 you'll at least have a reason besides the reason that is given for, 119 00:09:07.259 --> 00:09:11.610 yeah, the general malaise that that's something bad. I'm trying me, I 120 00:09:11.649 --> 00:09:16.570 know I'm being say, yeah, I get what you say. I could 121 00:09:16.610 --> 00:09:20.090 see people just having a problem with it ending just like that, just because 122 00:09:20.570 --> 00:09:24.559 you know it's not. It's not a game of thrones. And though it's 123 00:09:24.600 --> 00:09:31.720 like yeah, it's not, it's deliberate right, like it's absolutely yeah, 124 00:09:31.759 --> 00:09:33.720 yeah, it's it wasn't like it wasn't a like a fuck, very, 125 00:09:33.879 --> 00:09:39.789 very intentional and even if you don't like how it ends, I think even 126 00:09:39.870 --> 00:09:45.590 people that don't like it respect the kind of specificity and intentionality that one of 127 00:09:45.710 --> 00:09:50.629 those involved in creating that moment. It was like, it's it was deliberate, 128 00:09:50.669 --> 00:09:54.659 it was a touch of sense. Now, just kind of a circumstance. 129 00:09:54.980 --> 00:10:01.379 HMM. Well, fuck. Yeah, I love breaky bad. I'm 130 00:10:01.500 --> 00:10:05.179 new to the Sopranos. I I want to hope you have a good time, 131 00:10:05.340 --> 00:10:07.090 man, you have a good time. I want to get it too, 132 00:10:07.169 --> 00:10:11.250 like good, good drama again, because I feel like I've been like 133 00:10:11.330 --> 00:10:15.090 out of the game, almost like good TV drama, because I started watching 134 00:10:15.169 --> 00:10:18.370 yellowstone because, like my dad loves it, my older brother Toys. I'll 135 00:10:18.409 --> 00:10:20.480 watch it twice, like, you know, like I was like fuck, 136 00:10:20.480 --> 00:10:26.279 I gotta Watch the yellowstone and like I'm I'm like, I don't know, 137 00:10:26.279 --> 00:10:30.120 I'm gonna, I'm gonna a weird place with it, whereas I feel like 138 00:10:31.559 --> 00:10:33.600 there are things that I like about, like I said, probably seen the 139 00:10:33.639 --> 00:10:37.029 first like six episodes and there are things that I like going on and the 140 00:10:37.190 --> 00:10:39.909 you know, there's like great like you can tell when Taylor Shar it and 141 00:10:39.950 --> 00:10:45.470 write to the screenplay, but like there's, I don't know, there's really 142 00:10:45.509 --> 00:10:50.019 dumb soap opera, like hokey moments that I just like. It kind of 143 00:10:50.059 --> 00:10:54.500 like the turn it turns me off a bit. Like there's like one of 144 00:10:54.620 --> 00:11:01.059 the Sun's he kills somebody every in covers it up. Every episode. If 145 00:11:01.340 --> 00:11:05.409 he stumbles upon a crime, he shoots somebody and then he has to cover 146 00:11:05.490 --> 00:11:07.769 it up and then they just like move on to the next episode. Every 147 00:11:07.889 --> 00:11:13.929 episode he's a stumbling us a

crime, literally driving on the road, and 148 00:11:13.970 --> 00:11:16.809 then something will explode beside him or he'll be like I gotta go check this 149 00:11:16.889 --> 00:11:20.120 out, and he's always going to grab his gun. I'm like Damn, 150 00:11:20.240 --> 00:11:24.679 like this is like this is an like just odd, like it seems like 151 00:11:26.519 --> 00:11:30.080 the first couple times it happened like it's I was like wow, I was 152 00:11:30.120 --> 00:11:31.600 like a cool the kind of action be and I was like I can like 153 00:11:31.799 --> 00:11:37.269 with this is you're doing the same thing over over again here, like the 154 00:11:37.429 --> 00:11:41.149 sisters like really evil, and I'm like I don't like her, like I 155 00:11:41.230 --> 00:11:46.070 don't like I but like, at the same time, I could see like 156 00:11:46.230 --> 00:11:48.860 maybe in season two or three, like where these characters go. Maybe they 157 00:11:48.899 --> 00:11:52.419 get to a better place and then, you know, like I see myself 158 00:11:52.500 --> 00:11:56.059 liking it, but like, I don't know, I was just kind of 159 00:11:56.100 --> 00:11:58.539 turned off and I was it's like you were sewing with the Sopranos and I 160 00:11:58.659 --> 00:12:05.129 was like here am don't. Have you watched much of yellowstone? Sound like 161 00:12:05.169 --> 00:12:07.889 you were like not along that. I was saying it was nothing along because 162 00:12:09.450 --> 00:12:15.330 I had no idea what the fuck you're talking about. Seen It, okay, 163 00:12:15.450 --> 00:12:20.919 got just my bay. There a couple television shows like yellow stone that 164 00:12:20.240 --> 00:12:24.720 I know are going to be excellent and I know are right up my alley, 165 00:12:24.279 --> 00:12:30.389 but for whatever reason I'm kind of purposefully not watching them because I like 166 00:12:30.629 --> 00:12:33.230 having something in my back pocket to kind of know. It was like that 167 00:12:33.350 --> 00:12:37.509 with with true detective. For a long time I was like I don't want 168 00:12:37.509 --> 00:12:45.179 to watch true detective because I know I'm gonna love it and I you know, 169 00:12:45.779 --> 00:12:46.820 I want to have a TV show that I know I'm gonna love, 170 00:12:46.899 --> 00:12:52.139 but I can have and yellow stone right now is kind of that for me. 171 00:12:52.259 --> 00:12:54.820 But I will. I will get to it, probably when it's they're 172 00:12:54.860 --> 00:12:58.500 done making it. Uum Yeah, well, yeah, I think I don't 173 00:12:58.500 --> 00:13:01.809 know if they're going to the last season. Like I don't really know like 174 00:13:01.090 --> 00:13:05.649 way they're at with it. I don't than a whole bunch about like the 175 00:13:05.690 --> 00:13:11.330 production even really. I might check it out one day. Yeah, just 176 00:13:11.570 --> 00:13:15.600 so it's about. Hopefully it's not too much like a chick flickbot all that 177 00:13:16.080

--> 00:13:20.240 soap opera drama. So we'll see. I don't know. It's yeah, 178 00:13:20.399 --> 00:13:24.360 it's weird, but like I know that there is there is good things about 179 00:13:24.360 --> 00:13:26.789 it that I've heard. So like maybe down the road, like us, 180 00:13:26.830 --> 00:13:31.350 we're turning this into a TV podcast. I've been super up to date on 181 00:13:31.429 --> 00:13:35.710 like White Lotus and the new gossip girl. Like the new gossip girl is 182 00:13:35.909 --> 00:13:41.110 so it's like objectively bad, but I'm still like super into the like residual 183 00:13:41.230 --> 00:13:46.860 drama of Constance filler or whatever the fuck the school is called. And put 184 00:13:46.980 --> 00:13:50.700 White Lotus by Mike White. He's a he's like he's a right director, 185 00:13:50.740 --> 00:13:56.889 another West grant actually represent. It's the new kind of primetime HBO show, 186 00:13:56.009 --> 00:14:01.970 and I's it's one of the funniest things I've seen on television in a long 187 00:14:01.049 --> 00:14:05.649 time. Like the it is. It is a truly great comedy drama, 188 00:14:05.730 --> 00:14:09.559 like it makes me laugh out loud six to seven times an episode. So 189 00:14:09.600 --> 00:14:13.919 I just recommend it with the full force in my body. But, Holy 190 00:14:13.960 --> 00:14:18.799 Shit, I need to get off TV shows right now and get back to 191 00:14:18.919 --> 00:14:22.279 movies, like I guess because I've just been on the TV show grind right 192 00:14:22.279 --> 00:14:26.149 now. We're part of a decay in culture and we're contributing to it. 193 00:14:28.590 --> 00:14:33.110 I haven't I have not heard of the White Lotus. This is neither hush. 194 00:14:33.389 --> 00:14:37.110 Yeah, this is cool. You should. It's so funny. There 195 00:14:37.230 --> 00:14:43.860 was a scene in episode for that. Like laughing thinking about it. It 196 00:14:45.460 --> 00:14:50.100 was just it was so funny. I don't want to I don't want to 197 00:14:50.100 --> 00:14:52.450 give it away, but it just involves one dude eating another dude's ass and 198 00:14:52.490 --> 00:15:01.929 get him some a lot of it. No funny, but I'll leave it. 199 00:15:01.970 --> 00:15:05.210 I'll leave it. Okay. That's did you hear about like the whole 200 00:15:05.289 --> 00:15:13.440 Nathan Phillion thing? I saw I was watching the news today. That's where 201 00:15:13.440 --> 00:15:18.639 I found out. Yeah, yeah, I mentioned in the intro that we, 202 00:15:18.639 --> 00:15:20.830 yeah, we're so Dji are co workers. Now I'm working at sea. 203 00:15:20.990 --> 00:15:24.309 We're going Cech Man's. That's that's what I missed. Beause little I 204 00:15:24.309 --> 00:15:30.230 thought you were referring to Sam as a CO worker. Now, no, 205 00:15:30.549 --> 00:15:33.309 like I said it, and then I was like I'm gonna elaborate on that 206 00:15:33.389 --> 00:15:37.299 one. I'm done the intro. And then I just didn't like yeah, 207 00:15:37.419 --> 00:15:41.779 yeah, yeah, working with DJ and watching the news today. And Yeah, 208 00:15:41.899 --> 00:15:46.419 that Nathan Pavilion, you know, Nathan Phillian Civilian Pavilion? Right, 209 00:15:46.539 --> 00:15:50.289 that's what's yeah, it's a building in Calgary that they tried admit to that 210 00:15:50.529 --> 00:15:54.610 editon. Hmm, I guess that's where he's from. Id that I didn't. 211 00:15:56.330 --> 00:16:00.889 That's insane, right. I no clue, like I know people that 212 00:16:00.929 --> 00:16:06.039 are, like I know people that are from like Ford's ask in Edmonton, 213 00:16:06.159 --> 00:16:07.240 like I don't know. They might be, you know, the six degrees 214 00:16:07.279 --> 00:16:11.679 of separation, like what if, like I somehow I don't know someone who 215 00:16:11.720 --> 00:16:17.519 knows Nathan Phillion, like who the fuck knows? And you know someone who 216 00:16:17.600 --> 00:16:22.909 knows someone who knows Nathan Pillion, and that would be that. There we 217 00:16:22.990 --> 00:16:27.190 are. Yeah, they're they're crean. A lot of hype for suicide squad, 218 00:16:27.269 --> 00:16:30.870 like there's a lot of like the marketing's been crazy. You're not going 219 00:16:30.909 --> 00:16:36.179 to see it said out. I don't even I don't even want I don't 220 00:16:36.220 --> 00:16:40.620 enjoy them. They're all the same. I don't laugh the action sequences, 221 00:16:40.700 --> 00:16:45.980 while they're like amazingly choreograph and obviously super expensive, like I've seen them before 222 00:16:47.210 --> 00:16:52.090 and even if they add like some new truck flipper, the new every time 223 00:16:52.330 --> 00:16:56.970 were like a car drives off a cliff and make s'm like felman movies, 224 00:16:56.049 --> 00:17:02.720 like I just don't give a fuck, like they bridge like eight movies ago, 225 00:17:03.159 --> 00:17:08.079 like the main characters can't die Mak unless like a trash, unless in 226 00:17:08.160 --> 00:17:11.920 this movie. Oh No, suicide squad, unless is this. But well, 227 00:17:12.079 --> 00:17:17.309 I think I think the Paul Walker now but, like you know, 228 00:17:17.509 --> 00:17:22.950 I like Doma isn't gonna die. I don't think he wants spinoff movies, 229 00:17:22.109 --> 00:17:27.230 like, like he wants his own like Dominic Toretto spinoff move and like aren't 230 00:17:27.269 --> 00:17:30.779 these already Dominic Toretto movieses, like, how the fuck? How does that 231 00:17:30.940 --> 00:17:37.980 work? Family? He just doesn't want to franchise and movies by Fan but 232 00:17:38.019 --> 00:17:41.740 yeah, I'm on the I'm on the fence about whether I care enough to 233 00:17:41.819 --> 00:17:45.250 watch the suicide squad or not. I don't know. I guess I'll check 234 00:17:45.250 --> 00:17:49.769 it out because, you know, it's getting so much praise. Just see 235 00:17:49.849 --> 00:17:53.569 what that's all about. But I'm not like excited about him, I like

236 00:17:53.650 --> 00:18:02.000 hyped at this point. Like I'd rather watch like French cinema from s that 237 00:18:02.079 --> 00:18:07.119 I don't even really find entertaining, like I I'm just I'd rather see something 238 00:18:07.240 --> 00:18:11.990 that I haven't quite seen before, which for me as of late has been 239 00:18:12.589 --> 00:18:18.509 more delving into the past of movies, something where you where you don't exactly 240 00:18:18.630 --> 00:18:22.710 know what you're going to get. Yeah, kind of. And like like, 241 00:18:23.190 --> 00:18:27.500 for example, persona, like that scene where it's the the same conversation 242 00:18:27.859 --> 00:18:37.140 but flipped perspectives like that, was shocking to me. Like that. Okay, 243 00:18:37.140 --> 00:18:45.009 let's Talk Persona. I don't I can't remember the last time I was 244 00:18:45.170 --> 00:18:48.890 floored like that watching a movie. Actually, I think I can. No, 245 00:18:48.289 --> 00:18:51.289 I don't know why I said that, because I can. and Dj, 246 00:18:51.490 --> 00:18:56.640 you are actually the one who mentioned persona alongside this movie to we put 247 00:18:56.680 --> 00:19:03.519 Moholland drive. Wholand drive was the last movie that made me feel just amazed 248 00:19:03.799 --> 00:19:11.470 and confused and excited and like I wanted to make a movie myself while watching 249 00:19:11.549 --> 00:19:18.150 it. And Persona gave me that feeling. And you're love for kids that 250 00:19:18.390 --> 00:19:21.910 you were so on the money about that. That, I think, comparison. 251 00:19:22.029 --> 00:19:25.500 Yeah, that's how it made me feel, like that same feeling I 252 00:19:25.539 --> 00:19:27.980 got watching Mahala and drive. I was like, I'm getting this watching persona. 253 00:19:29.059 --> 00:19:33.460 It's like it's like how it's telling you sam like those episodes in the 254 00:19:33.500 --> 00:19:38.849 Sopranos where it's it captures what dreams feel like to like a tea. It's 255 00:19:38.930 --> 00:19:42.410 like that's what these persona and Moholland drive. Do you as well? It's 256 00:19:42.450 --> 00:19:47.329 like the whole film just feels like a dream and it's like, even though 257 00:19:47.369 --> 00:19:51.410 you don't necessarily understand fully what's going on, it like it doesn't matter. 258 00:19:51.609 --> 00:19:56.279 You just still so invested in what you're seeing and it's you've seen it, 259 00:19:56.720 --> 00:20:00.279 so you can talk about it. No, Yese, I explain it to 260 00:20:00.359 --> 00:20:03.079 you. I'm let it happen now. Yeah, no, no, I 261 00:20:03.200 --> 00:20:08.829 thought that feeling to write like. I definitely got it with Maholand drive. 262 00:20:10.190 --> 00:20:12.630 I like, I feel like, yeah, between the two, I like 263 00:20:12.789 --> 00:20:18.869 Muholland drive more because I feel like when it's like because yeah, there is 264 00:20:18.910 --> 00:20:22.220 a narrative, but then one too kind of goes off the wall and you 265 00:20:22.259 --> 00:20:26.900 kind of lose track of what's going on, I feel like I was able 266 00:20:26.980 --> 00:20:33.539 to like kind of like follow along a little better, like when persona went 267 00:20:33.859 --> 00:20:37.769 really crazy, like I it lost me and I didn't like I didn't know 268 00:20:37.769 --> 00:20:41.369 what I was watching anymore and I was like and it wasn't the like. 269 00:20:41.490 --> 00:20:45.890 Obviously they g's IT'S A it's a beautiful movie. A lot of people say 270 00:20:45.930 --> 00:20:48.809 that, though. Yeah, and it like you honestly like the fact that 271 00:20:48.890 --> 00:20:52.920 it was an hour and a half to like really like it helped with it 272 00:20:52.000 --> 00:20:56.039 too, like I had a good experience, but I was like it got 273 00:20:56.079 --> 00:20:59.240 to a point where I was like I felt disconnected from it and I was 274 00:20:59.319 --> 00:21:04.910 like like what, like what am I I the second act, like like 275 00:21:06.390 --> 00:21:08.990 like the Middle Section, I was by probably my favorite part, like kind 276 00:21:08.990 --> 00:21:14.309 of the book end, like we the kind of like the abstract stuff that 277 00:21:14.470 --> 00:21:18.619 like I couldn't really like follow as well, like yeah, I don't, 278 00:21:18.660 --> 00:21:21.299 but it wasn't like, I don't know, it was in the movies fault, 279 00:21:21.380 --> 00:21:25.779 though. It was like my like just how like my brain was trying 280 00:21:25.819 --> 00:21:27.700 to like it felt like the movie people. It's okay, yeah, I 281 00:21:27.779 --> 00:21:30.740 know, that's it. I feel like the movie got ahead of me and 282 00:21:30.859 --> 00:21:34.130 I was like fuck, I can't, I can't do this. I think, 283 00:21:34.130 --> 00:21:40.650 I think anyone who's honest about their first viewing of Mulholland drive or their 284 00:21:41.049 --> 00:21:45.890 first viewing a personas like yeah, what the fuck? Ok, if you're 285 00:21:45.890 --> 00:21:49.960 coming out of that movie saying you completely understood from minute second one to the 286 00:21:51.079 --> 00:21:59.519 end, then like I just I don't know it through, then like you 287 00:21:59.640 --> 00:22:06.750 should be making movies all day long. You should be like writing some shit. 288 00:22:07.869 --> 00:22:11.349 Yeah, if you understand, because they're not. They're not easy to 289 00:22:11.829 --> 00:22:15.819 understand or connect with. So I understand if, like, you watch it, 290 00:22:15.059 --> 00:22:19.779 you're you kind of feel emotionally distant from it, but I didn't have 291 00:22:19.980 --> 00:22:25.579 that. It got me. I was hooked, I was full attention on 292 00:22:25.660 --> 00:22:29.380 that screen. Like I said, I don't I don't even remember much about 293 00:22:29.380 --> 00:22:32.730 it. I got the thing like a fucking thing that have, but it 294 00:22:32.809 --> 00:22:36.369 is doesn't know.

Yeah, like I would. I didn't know what happened 295 00:22:36.410 --> 00:22:40.329 when I watched it and like I'm even more confused now, obviously, after 296 00:22:40.369 --> 00:22:44.920 all this, I don't remember a thing. That's that's really interesting thing because 297 00:22:44.960 --> 00:22:48.480 because I'm trying to think about like how did the movie exactly end, and 298 00:22:48.559 --> 00:22:52.640 I don't know. I don't know what I remember. Whatever feeling is like, 299 00:22:53.359 --> 00:22:59.509 and I think this is probably some like mainstream interpretation. I haven't really 300 00:22:59.589 --> 00:23:04.549 like jove into it online, but it felt like a very clear sort of 301 00:23:04.630 --> 00:23:11.150 messaging about motherhood to me, which which seems to be kind of if you 302 00:23:11.230 --> 00:23:14.299 think about like a racer head by Lynch and how, like a racer head 303 00:23:14.380 --> 00:23:19.420 is so much about fatherhood. I felt like persona was was kind of about 304 00:23:21.180 --> 00:23:26.019 the dread of motherhood and kind of how the actress like couldn't be a mother. 305 00:23:26.170 --> 00:23:30.049 Like she it was the one role that she couldn't like walk away from. 306 00:23:30.250 --> 00:23:33.769 Ever, like she was going to be a mother and that was the 307 00:23:33.009 --> 00:23:36.369 acting role she had to play for the rest of her life and she was 308 00:23:36.890 --> 00:23:44.279 constricted to it, whereas the nurse had the abortion and she kind of got 309 00:23:44.480 --> 00:23:48.799 rid of it and she avoided taking on that role. And maybe I'm just 310 00:23:48.960 --> 00:23:51.960 kind of doing a weird extrapolation here, but it felt, let me, 311 00:23:52.079 --> 00:23:53.799 so much sense. That makes a water reminding me about. Yeah, that's 312 00:23:53.839 --> 00:23:59.349 fucking that's fucking awesome. I like that. I like that. That's a 313 00:23:59.390 --> 00:24:03.829 really great metaphor. It not like something was going on there and just the 314 00:24:03.190 --> 00:24:08.269 distance that they they felt? Yeah, because I'm pretty sure it's supposed there's 315 00:24:08.309 --> 00:24:11.900 they're supposed to like marry each other in a way, right, like that's 316 00:24:11.940 --> 00:24:15.900 what I liked so much. I really like the relationship. Like they were 317 00:24:15.059 --> 00:24:21.180 like yeah, I don't they were like different versions of the same person, 318 00:24:21.220 --> 00:24:25.289 almost, you know, one never spoke. Yeah, and it's it, 319 00:24:25.450 --> 00:24:29.369 and like it was so yeah, that's why I like so much about it. 320 00:24:29.569 --> 00:24:32.650 was because that, like you like you felt like kind of this one 321 00:24:32.769 --> 00:24:36.329 sided connection, but like, I don't it didn't ever feel like you. 322 00:24:36.529 --> 00:24:38.200 She was like talking to a like they were friends, you know, and 323 00:24:38.480 --> 00:24:42.759 like when like when that gets betrayed to like, I like, like that's 324 00:24:42.799 --> 00:24:45.519 what I mostly connected with. I was like it broke my heart there. 325 00:24:45.960 --> 00:24:49.079 I was like, oh no, like that that fucked me up, and 326 00:24:49.240 --> 00:24:52.109 that's why, when it kind of went off the rails at the end, 327 00:24:52.190 --> 00:24:55.670 I was like, damn it, I want I wanted to like I like 328 00:24:56.150 --> 00:25:00.349 just like this story of their relationship and how they mirrored each other. I 329 00:25:00.470 --> 00:25:03.069 was like, like, I don't know, I didn't feel like I needed 330 00:25:03.269 --> 00:25:06.269 like much else from that. Like I've the movie was trying to offer more 331 00:25:07.299 --> 00:25:11.619 than you just being a stage play essentially, and like I commended for that. 332 00:25:11.579 --> 00:25:14.900 Like I don't know, I'm on a weird middle ground with it, 333 00:25:14.940 --> 00:25:17.460 but yeah, I totally get what you're saying, like about like the motherhood 334 00:25:17.460 --> 00:25:19.380 and stuff like that, like they're it was. It was good. It 335 00:25:19.500 --> 00:25:23.609 was really good. Do you guys think that David Lynch is the greatest American 336 00:25:23.730 --> 00:25:38.960 director? HMM, he has like such a specific style to his stuff. 337 00:25:41.039 --> 00:25:44.039 That is it's hard to compare them to other people, because he's like in 338 00:25:44.279 --> 00:25:47.759 he's just off doing his own thing, kind of, you know, hmm 339 00:25:48.400 --> 00:25:52.190 and yeah, and I don't think it's like fair to compare the they would 340 00:25:52.190 --> 00:25:56.750 you compare like Christopher Nolan to David Lynch, or like Tarantino to David Lynches? 341 00:25:56.829 --> 00:26:00.390 I would say that. I would say that David Lynch is a significantly 342 00:26:00.430 --> 00:26:04.500 better filmmaker than Chris but they're just they're making different movies. Though, is 343 00:26:04.619 --> 00:26:10.299 like the David Lynchen's okay, like of course there's there's going to be like 344 00:26:10.380 --> 00:26:14.700 at a certain like level of excellence, objectivity is kind of irrelevant. Just 345 00:26:14.779 --> 00:26:21.130 becomes about preference and like what what you like. But I think there will 346 00:26:21.170 --> 00:26:26.329 be people that make movies like Nolan, that are potentially as good or better 347 00:26:26.490 --> 00:26:33.240 than Nolan's movies in the future. I don't think any other human being capable 348 00:26:33.839 --> 00:26:41.240 of making a David Lynch movie. Damn, that is like Alice Your Bergman. 349 00:26:41.119 --> 00:26:47.119 Yeah, well, but he's not American. MEERIC. Yeah, and 350 00:26:47.269 --> 00:26:51.990 Nolan is obviously British. But I was trying to think of like an American 351 00:26:52.390 --> 00:26:56.230 mountain rushmore of filmmakers, because I was getting into this

kick where I was 352 00:26:56.309 --> 00:27:00.069 like, you know, we think American cinema might just be Super Duper overrated. 353 00:27:00.539 --> 00:27:03.099 And then I started thinking about it and I was like Oh wait, 354 00:27:03.220 --> 00:27:10.500 no, it's not. American incredible better than good. Yeah, like well, 355 00:27:10.539 --> 00:27:12.220 look, we're in the same fucking continent. Look at like look at 356 00:27:12.339 --> 00:27:17.329 like Spanish and American movies compared to Canadian movies, like, you know, 357 00:27:17.529 --> 00:27:21.650 like like obviously all the all the best, like Canadian artists like end up 358 00:27:21.730 --> 00:27:26.210 leaving Canada, like look, go Seth Rogan and fucking James Cameron and you 359 00:27:26.329 --> 00:27:30.359 know, like like the but yeah, but then I guess even like a 360 00:27:30.599 --> 00:27:34.000 even like the best like Spanish directors, to and some end up in America 361 00:27:34.079 --> 00:27:38.279 as well, you know, Germld Toro and Alejandro interview to, like, 362 00:27:38.359 --> 00:27:44.910 you know, like yeah, so well, yeah, what would you nice 363 00:27:44.990 --> 00:27:48.509 think if you could, if you could pick for American directors as like the 364 00:27:48.750 --> 00:27:52.829 greatest? Who Do you think you would? What do you think? I 365 00:27:52.869 --> 00:27:56.269 already are you. I went through this, like I went through my list 366 00:27:56.390 --> 00:28:00.660 on letter box and I was kind of like counting to see how many movies 367 00:28:00.700 --> 00:28:03.619 a director had on my list to determine like who had the most and like 368 00:28:03.779 --> 00:28:08.940 make a list right get in descending order. I think Spielberg had the most 369 00:28:08.980 --> 00:28:14.930 movies on my list. So Spielberg would definitely be on the rush Mount Rushmore 370 00:28:15.049 --> 00:28:18.289 for me, as I was going to say, that too interesting, but 371 00:28:18.329 --> 00:28:22.609 I wouldn't have Spielberg probably in my tops like seven, maybe even ten. 372 00:28:22.730 --> 00:28:26.759 Yet he's a perfectly reasonable response. But how can you put him ahead of 373 00:28:26.880 --> 00:28:33.039 like Stanley Kubrick or or the aforementioned David Lynch? Are Okay. So are 374 00:28:33.079 --> 00:28:38.480 we talking about greatness or are we talking about best, like who's better at 375 00:28:38.559 --> 00:28:42.109 what they do? Well, that would require like us to come up with 376 00:28:42.190 --> 00:28:48.190 some sort of system of yeah, Aitian for him. Ye, would inevitably 377 00:28:48.269 --> 00:28:52.990 it probably involved some sort of like box office component, in which case, 378 00:28:52.509 --> 00:28:57.980 like Spielberg, is talk. This man has made so many movies and like 379 00:28:59.660 --> 00:29:03.420 yeah, his greatness is good movie he's made, like he's like made good 380 00:29:03.539 --> 00:29:07.579 movies, like I don't think anyone would say like a movie like catch me, 381 00:29:07.619 --> 00:29:11.690 if you can, would be in like a like an all time great 382 00:29:11.769 --> 00:29:18.009 movie. Yet it's very, very good and it's rewatchable and it did well 383 00:29:18.170 --> 00:29:22.690 the time and it holds up, but it's not like a great movie, 384 00:29:22.089 --> 00:29:26.240 you know. But I don't know that. Spielberg has made a ton of 385 00:29:26.279 --> 00:29:33.720 great movies. I mean raiders. He's saving Privor Ryan. I see that 386 00:29:34.119 --> 00:29:37.990 lest yeah, I don't know if this these are it's a pretty fucking grand 387 00:29:38.069 --> 00:29:41.069 movies. Like, I don't know, like I wouldn't say that saving private 388 00:29:41.109 --> 00:29:45.430 Ryan is even like a top ten war film. Never made. WHOA, 389 00:29:45.630 --> 00:29:49.869 damn, but you were like ten chopping trees out here, motherfucker. They 390 00:29:52.670 --> 00:29:57.059 just writing with you up until that one. Yea, I look and admittedly, 391 00:29:57.180 --> 00:30:03.859 like I am not someone who enjoys war movies very much. I like 392 00:30:03.900 --> 00:30:08.410 they always make me feel terrible, which I guess is yeah, like you 393 00:30:08.450 --> 00:30:11.809 don't want to more, make more moving to make you feel happy. Like 394 00:30:11.930 --> 00:30:14.569 that's not like that. It's all put some of the point. Yeah, 395 00:30:14.609 --> 00:30:18.490 how can you even like try to compare say, the private Ryan to something 396 00:30:18.569 --> 00:30:23.440 like come and see or apocalypse now, or even like Dunkirk? Like I 397 00:30:23.559 --> 00:30:27.960 think Dun Kirk is one of the ten best war films I've ever seen. 398 00:30:29.039 --> 00:30:30.960 I think it's sign I loved I loved Kirk quite a bit. Yeah, 399 00:30:32.920 --> 00:30:40.670 you know, I say saving Pridor Ryan would be top five for me. 400 00:30:41.069 --> 00:30:44.589 Like it made it made waves. Is What like know, like that the 401 00:30:44.670 --> 00:30:48.589 Omaha beats scene, like it like, I don't know, I feel like 402 00:30:48.789 --> 00:30:52.900 it like had a hand in like like changing movies right, like I you 403 00:30:52.980 --> 00:30:57.299 know, I feel like like how like visceral like got like in the like 404 00:30:57.380 --> 00:31:00.180 veterans having a walk out of the theater because they're all like that was it? 405 00:31:00.380 --> 00:31:03.569 Like that was you know, like people do the same thing about platoon, 406 00:31:03.809 --> 00:31:08.210 like come on, it's platoon, one of the greatest, like no, 407 00:31:08.490 --> 00:31:15.329 movie, No, no, yeah, this should be a segment. 408 00:31:15.569 --> 00:31:19.519 We should have like war movies. You're like top whatever, warre movie. 409 00:31:21.079 --> 00:31:26.079 For the PODCAST. It's Spielberg better than like Paul Thomas Anderson? Is He 410 00:31:26.440 --> 00:31:30.759 is he better than boody?

Allen is better? Girl, say Francis Work 411 00:31:30.799 --> 00:31:33.190 Coke? I don't know. I don't know. We need like a system. 412 00:31:33.589 --> 00:31:38.029 Yeah, they're all like setting out to do different things. Like when 413 00:31:38.029 --> 00:31:41.230 Spielberg starts to make a movie, he's not going through the same kind of 414 00:31:41.309 --> 00:31:47.500 process that Paul Thomas Anderson is, you know, like Paul, like PTA 415 00:31:47.740 --> 00:31:52.579 is like I'm making like like a really slow like like a period piece. 416 00:31:52.740 --> 00:31:56.339 That is like yeah, like in here in vice, you know, the 417 00:31:56.420 --> 00:32:00.690 head, like he's got making a period piece that is like confusing and funny 418 00:32:01.009 --> 00:32:07.369 and like stressful and heartfelt, you know. And then Spielberg like he'll do 419 00:32:07.529 --> 00:32:09.849 the same, like a similar thing, but like just on like a much 420 00:32:09.970 --> 00:32:15.049 like like a grander scale, like it's not even like it's not that it's 421 00:32:15.049 --> 00:32:19.359 a better or it's like greater. It's like he's like I'm making this movie 422 00:32:19.559 --> 00:32:22.720 for like millions and millions of people, and then, like pets, like 423 00:32:22.759 --> 00:32:27.799 I'm going to like I'm making this movie like for I don't like for me, 424 00:32:28.640 --> 00:32:32.069 like Bookie Knights was for everyone, like boogie Knights was a tent pole 425 00:32:32.190 --> 00:32:37.309 movie, but I could like. I don't. I could see more people 426 00:32:37.549 --> 00:32:42.269 disliking boogie nights than et and that's not to say that like that it's better. 427 00:32:42.390 --> 00:32:45.180 I'm just saying, like, you know, like Spielberg's really good at 428 00:32:45.299 --> 00:32:50.779 making, like you like, like a movie for a lot, like it's 429 00:32:50.779 --> 00:32:53.019 stiffl to be a great movie for a lot of people, the popcorn movie, 430 00:32:53.539 --> 00:32:59.369 like jaws. It's a great pot great yeah. Yeah, the Saskatchewan 431 00:32:59.490 --> 00:33:04.289 podcast network is supported by connecus. Next time you're stuck in traffic for a 432 00:33:04.369 --> 00:33:07.529 while, here's some things to think about instead. Of why the car in 433 00:33:07.609 --> 00:33:09.690 front of you is going so slow, or if the car behind you is 434 00:33:09.809 --> 00:33:14.079 trying to hitch a ride on your bumper? What if your bank was committed 435 00:33:14.119 --> 00:33:16.920 to working with you to achieve your goals? What if they cared enough to 436 00:33:17.119 --> 00:33:21.920 get to know you? What if they weren't successful unless you were? What 437 00:33:22.039 --> 00:33:27.150 if your financial wellbeing drove everything they did? Come see why things are different 438 00:33:27.190 --> 00:33:30.990 at connexus. Stop by any branch to learn more about how connects US cares. 439 00:33:31.430 --> 00:33:36.029 Okay,

so so you know my number one, according to my list 440 00:33:36.470 --> 00:33:40.700 for do you have any guesses to my number two? Christopher Nolan? That 441 00:33:40.779 --> 00:33:45.220 would be a solid guess. Yeah, it's it's not Nolan. It's not 442 00:33:45.380 --> 00:33:51.220 Nolan. MMMY, you gotta guess. Is just just judging by a how 443 00:33:51.299 --> 00:33:55.250 many movies they have on my list. WHO's my number two? David Yates, 444 00:33:55.329 --> 00:34:01.410 because you put like all the hair pot Jenny Villan away. No, 445 00:34:02.009 --> 00:34:06.450 he's not even honorable. Give me, give me a hint, give us 446 00:34:06.490 --> 00:34:13.960 a hand. Mafia scor says, yeah, screw says he's got the second 447 00:34:14.079 --> 00:34:17.559 most movies on my list. And then there it is Nolans, fourth is 448 00:34:17.599 --> 00:34:28.190 fincher and fifth is Kubrick, what's your favorite fincher movie? What's my collar? 449 00:34:30.869 --> 00:34:35.110 Your Zodiac? Guy. Yes, that one is his Zodiac. Yeah, 450 00:34:35.190 --> 00:34:38.219 that's that's my favorite. That's you're probably that's probably his best movie. 451 00:34:40.420 --> 00:34:44.619 Yeah, like, like objectly, I guess. I gotta know that. 452 00:34:44.739 --> 00:34:47.860 I my personal favorite is seven. Like I think about that movie a lot. 453 00:34:49.019 --> 00:34:52.619 I love seven. I'm questioned for you. Guys. Am I in 454 00:34:52.050 --> 00:34:58.210 cell for in two thousand and twenty one. Still like like just loving everything 455 00:34:58.250 --> 00:35:01.769 about fight club, like I fight club is my favorite fincher movie. It's 456 00:35:01.769 --> 00:35:05.369 the one I come back to the most. It's the one I enjoy. 457 00:35:05.489 --> 00:35:07.400 It's I have fun watching it. I think it's so smart. I think 458 00:35:07.440 --> 00:35:12.840 it's actually held up really well over time. Like you could say any finhery 459 00:35:12.880 --> 00:35:17.719 movies your favorite, and I wouldn't judge you. Unless this aliens three movie, 460 00:35:17.960 --> 00:35:22.070 you most stop being a director because he experience so much, because they 461 00:35:22.230 --> 00:35:24.710 talked with them and they were it didn't let him do what he wanted to 462 00:35:24.789 --> 00:35:29.670 do. He said, he said I'd rather have colon cancer the make another 463 00:35:29.750 --> 00:35:38.860 movie. I'll never forget that. I'll never forget ready that. But so 464 00:35:39.059 --> 00:35:44.179 messed up. The Hollywood system is mad scary. I can discuss fuck with 465 00:35:44.260 --> 00:35:49.059 your vision like that. Like yeah, I love, yeah, I love 466 00:35:49.139 --> 00:35:52.489 guys like like, you know, like fincher, even like Soderberg that, 467 00:35:52.730 --> 00:35:57.289 like you know, I don't love everything that Soderberg's done with all the iphone 468 00:35:57.329 --> 00:36:00.489 stuff over the past few years. But like he's trying, you know,

469 00:36:00.610 --> 00:36:04.639 he's pushing, he's aiming to like push boundaries and like, guys see just 470 00:36:04.800 --> 00:36:07.320 something I don't see. Actually, Cam I really have to disagree with you 471 00:36:07.440 --> 00:36:14.519 there. I think he pushes boundaries on a really, really surface level. 472 00:36:14.679 --> 00:36:19.150 Like no sudden move, which is the movie he just came out with, 473 00:36:20.030 --> 00:36:28.550 is like so incredibly average and okay, and that's kind of what I come 474 00:36:28.630 --> 00:36:30.469 to expect from a Soderberg movie. I'm like, okay, I know what 475 00:36:30.510 --> 00:36:34.980 I'm going to get. It's going to be solid react structure. I kind 476 00:36:34.980 --> 00:36:37.219 of know how it's going to end before it starts. But they're going to 477 00:36:37.260 --> 00:36:39.300 be like a little surprise along the way. There's going to be kind of 478 00:36:39.300 --> 00:36:44.780 a cliche lesson involved and we're going to be done and I'm going to have 479 00:36:44.940 --> 00:36:50.449 been entertained and there will have been actors that I enjoy and the writing will 480 00:36:50.489 --> 00:36:55.889 be fine. But I'm not getting any sort of transcendent experience, and I've 481 00:36:55.929 --> 00:37:01.840 basically felt that way from every Soderberg movie except for his first sex size and 482 00:37:01.880 --> 00:37:10.440 videotape, which I think is like revelatory and amazing and groundbreaking, and every 483 00:37:10.519 --> 00:37:16.150 movie after that I have like not care. Yeah, okay, yeah, 484 00:37:16.190 --> 00:37:20.230 I don't know. Yeah, maybe not. I see what I'm think casks. 485 00:37:20.349 --> 00:37:22.869 So No, you're like, I know, I don't agree with you. 486 00:37:22.949 --> 00:37:25.630 Yeah, because, like, yeah, he does have a lot of 487 00:37:25.789 --> 00:37:30.860 a lot of flops. I think it's cinematography is good, like he look 488 00:37:30.860 --> 00:37:34.019 at like Zack Snyder, him doing his own cinematography. I don't I don't 489 00:37:34.019 --> 00:37:37.500 think it's very good. But like Soderberg's behind the camera on like a lot 490 00:37:37.619 --> 00:37:40.019 of a lot of his stuff and I think, like, I think it 491 00:37:40.380 --> 00:37:44.289 looks okay. I don't like the iphone stuff, but like everything else, 492 00:37:44.289 --> 00:37:46.130 I think it looks good. And like he's, you know, he's boots 493 00:37:46.250 --> 00:37:50.610 the ground, he's like he's in the trenches, like you know, it 494 00:37:50.730 --> 00:37:53.730 like these not making difficult films, but like you know, he's like he's 495 00:37:53.769 --> 00:37:57.570 putting work in, and I didn't like I can feel it. Guess he's 496 00:37:57.570 --> 00:38:01.119 definitely boots on the ground from magic mic wasn't here. I haven't seen I 497 00:38:01.199 --> 00:38:05.320 should probably actually see the Magic Mike, I think. I think Magic Mike 498 00:38:05.440 --> 00:38:07.800 is the second best move. Yeah, okay, good, I don't I 499 00:38:07.960 --> 00:38:13.550 like, I'm not someone who hates on that film, like it's certainly wasn't 500 00:38:14.869 --> 00:38:19.869 made for me to enjoy necessarily. I think that was more incidental contact, 501 00:38:20.190 --> 00:38:23.550 like, but I thought, I thought it was a good movie. I'm 502 00:38:23.630 --> 00:38:30.059 just curious because, since SAM brought it up, you obviously probably have a 503 00:38:30.179 --> 00:38:34.820 mountain rushmore right, like people you have in mind makers. Yeah, so, 504 00:38:34.980 --> 00:38:39.699 like I want to hear. Oh you do? Yeah, audience with 505 00:38:39.820 --> 00:38:49.610 the Great Dj. I would go with Francis Ford Coppola, and this is 506 00:38:49.809 --> 00:38:51.889 this isn't any sort of order. And, by the way, like, 507 00:38:52.369 --> 00:38:57.440 I do think that there are like probably three or four other directors that are 508 00:38:57.480 --> 00:39:01.199 as good as these people, but this is my mount rushmore so I'm going 509 00:39:01.239 --> 00:39:07.719 to say what I want. FRITZPORT COPLA, David Lynch, Stanley Kubrick, 510 00:39:08.280 --> 00:39:16.349 and I would go with see. The last spot is like a real debate 511 00:39:16.429 --> 00:39:24.340 from me between PTA Tarantino and Cohen Brothers and fincher. I think one of 512 00:39:24.420 --> 00:39:30.780 them gets that last spot, like I can argue with any of those people. 513 00:39:30.900 --> 00:39:35.739 So exactly, I think your opinion is stupid and I don't know you 514 00:39:35.900 --> 00:39:40.730 said. I probably pick Tarantino, not because he's my favorite before. In 515 00:39:40.769 --> 00:39:45.289 fact he's probably my least favorite of before. But I think if we look 516 00:39:45.289 --> 00:39:50.329 at kind of impact on popular culture and kind of what amount rushmore supposed to 517 00:39:50.369 --> 00:39:59.840 signify, like Tarantino change the way films were made. He change an entire 518 00:39:59.960 --> 00:40:06.000 decade and the night it's like Resero dogs and then openly pulp fiction like inspired 519 00:40:06.119 --> 00:40:09.710 basically everything we know about modern movie making. Like without pulp fiction, like 520 00:40:10.630 --> 00:40:16.309 I don't know that movies are made that make me care about movies moving forward. 521 00:40:16.429 --> 00:40:21.389 You know, like if you're a great filmmaker and you're also and a 522 00:40:21.500 --> 00:40:24.619 household name, like, I feel like that's that's says a lot, you 523 00:40:24.739 --> 00:40:28.860 know. Yeah, because you know there's a lot of great filmmakers where it's 524 00:40:28.860 --> 00:40:30.860 like, if you want, you talk to a group of people and you 525 00:40:30.980 --> 00:40:32.340 mentioned this guy, they like, I don't know who that is, but 526 00:40:32.460 --> 00:40:37.809 you've mentioned Tarantino. Everyone knows

Tarantino, everyone knows Crissese, everyone knows Gielberg. 527 00:40:37.489 --> 00:40:40.250 Right, not you can say scores as in my list, and that's 528 00:40:40.369 --> 00:40:45.889 that's because, like, I'm trying to take one from kind of a decade. 529 00:40:46.010 --> 00:40:52.400 So like S, I think cue brick and and I you know, 530 00:40:52.559 --> 00:40:53.679 that might be right, there might be wrong, but I just kind of 531 00:40:53.719 --> 00:40:57.719 think. I think space obviously came out in sixty eight, right. I 532 00:40:57.840 --> 00:41:01.239 think that's when it came out, and I mean that movie is transcend into 533 00:41:01.239 --> 00:41:06.510 it. Not that his earlier work isn't like bonkers, but I think that's 534 00:41:06.550 --> 00:41:09.349 probably one of the ten best movies ever made. So I'd say SI s 535 00:41:09.349 --> 00:41:15.110 Kubrick S. personally, I'm taking Francis Ford over Scorsese. I know, 536 00:41:16.469 --> 00:41:22.699 taxi driver seventy six, but I'm taking I'm taking forward with the godfathers and 537 00:41:23.219 --> 00:41:32.489 apocalypse now and the conversation S. I'm taking David Lynch and S. that's 538 00:41:32.610 --> 00:41:37.050 was kind of my debate. You know, Tarantino, PTA kind of early 539 00:41:37.210 --> 00:41:43.889 Ish Cohen Brothers, and I just felt like Tarantino at the biggest sort of 540 00:41:44.449 --> 00:41:46.639 it's a pretty good way to go about it, going from decade like it 541 00:41:47.599 --> 00:41:52.920 and and for the for the S and and for the auts in the Times, 542 00:41:52.920 --> 00:41:57.119 I feel like we need more time to really see what has a lasting 543 00:41:57.199 --> 00:42:00.199 impact. And I and also I think you could argue it like Cohen brothers 544 00:42:00.280 --> 00:42:04.750 and PTA would be dueling for the outs. So, yeah, I know 545 00:42:05.150 --> 00:42:09.230 I would. He's I was I was thinking, I like I like oughts 546 00:42:09.550 --> 00:42:14.989 PTA better than s PTA, like I think, yeah, like, I 547 00:42:15.980 --> 00:42:20.059 that Watch Book Knights recently and like I feel like I was like this is 548 00:42:20.139 --> 00:42:23.019 made by a young filmmaker, you know, like I feel like he would 549 00:42:23.099 --> 00:42:27.099 have he would have made a like a you know, like yeah, it 550 00:42:27.420 --> 00:42:30.650 was fantastic, but it was like this, this guy is like he can 551 00:42:30.730 --> 00:42:34.690 only go up from here. And like I feel like he was low, 552 00:42:34.849 --> 00:42:38.889 he really blew as low scoring it up, because I think he was like 553 00:42:39.010 --> 00:42:42.809 twenty seven or twenty eight when he got that made. It's like he'd been 554 00:42:42.929 --> 00:42:45.639 storing it all up to make. I mean, I know he made hard 555 00:42:45.679 --> 00:42:49.639 a beforehand, but bookie knights was the first script that he started writing and 556 00:42:49.719 --> 00:42:52.840 he started writing sixteen earlier versions, just like the dirt diggler story, I 557 00:42:52.920 --> 00:42:57.079 thinks what he called it, and he did the short film, yeah, 558 00:42:57.119 --> 00:43:00.829 yeah, exactly, which became by the Knights. I feel like that movie 559 00:43:00.989 --> 00:43:04.590 was like the expression of everything he wanted to say up to that point. 560 00:43:04.750 --> 00:43:07.710 Basically, I would I would argue that hard aid is a bad movie. 561 00:43:07.829 --> 00:43:12.429 I don't it. I think it. I think it's poorly made. I 562 00:43:12.590 --> 00:43:15.659 really yeah, yeah, and then it yeah, and then he like that. 563 00:43:15.860 --> 00:43:19.500 He yeah, he went out and he made like that was exactly the 564 00:43:19.579 --> 00:43:22.900 movie that he the Book Knights is exactly the thing that he wanted to make 565 00:43:22.260 --> 00:43:25.860 at the time. It was just like it was interesting to see like this 566 00:43:25.980 --> 00:43:29.289 evolution because then, yeah, he then he tried to take it a step 567 00:43:29.329 --> 00:43:32.769 further with Magnolia, and I think, I don't. I think that movies 568 00:43:32.929 --> 00:43:39.809 too much like it's it's Oh, I think it's really slowt of, it's 569 00:43:39.849 --> 00:43:45.239 real, it's sets. That that's that's my favorite. Paul Thomas, I 570 00:43:45.280 --> 00:43:51.440 understood. Who Really Know Onia is? I think I know. I know 571 00:43:51.599 --> 00:43:53.840 that like the the kind of like how people say the best finsher movies, 572 00:43:53.920 --> 00:43:58.230 Zodiac. I think most people probably say the best PTA movies. There will 573 00:43:58.230 --> 00:44:02.269 be blood, but I think when people look back twenty, thirty, forty 574 00:44:02.269 --> 00:44:07.829 years from now, the one that will kind of stay in memory is magnolia, 575 00:44:07.869 --> 00:44:12.619 because I don't think anyone will ever, or had ever up to that 576 00:44:12.739 --> 00:44:15.260 point, made a movie quite like that and I don't think it's possible for 577 00:44:15.340 --> 00:44:22.659 anyone else to, which is why I think it it'll just last. Maybe 578 00:44:22.659 --> 00:44:25.289 I should watch that was the first pete movie I ever saw, so maybe 579 00:44:25.329 --> 00:44:28.929 it was too maybe, maybe those too much. Maybe like now, like 580 00:44:29.090 --> 00:44:30.409 knowing what's going on, like maybe I could go back and enjoy it a 581 00:44:30.449 --> 00:44:34.210 little more, but the first time I was like, Oh, what is 582 00:44:34.369 --> 00:44:37.050 what is this? It was like I had a really big meal and I 583 00:44:37.210 --> 00:44:38.679 was like, Oh, I don't know, I can't digest so this. 584 00:44:42.360 --> 00:44:46.079 Um, yeah, I we it's that's super interesting, though. How I 585 00:44:46.360 --> 00:44:52.309 I'm not the biggest PTA fan, but like that's my favorite movie and that's 586 00:44:52.349 --> 00:44:55.789 like you're like

one of your least favorite of his. Like that's interesting to 587 00:44:55.869 --> 00:45:00.469 me as a big fan, that you are right. What. Yeah, 588 00:45:00.469 --> 00:45:02.269 I said like once I discovered all his movies, I said he was my 589 00:45:02.309 --> 00:45:07.139 favorite director like ever and like yeah, I would say, okay, well, 590 00:45:07.300 --> 00:45:10.139 yeah, like heart ache is not I don't know if I count like 591 00:45:10.179 --> 00:45:14.059 it's just not a good movie. Like obviously the least favorite. I would 592 00:45:14.059 --> 00:45:19.460 say phantom thread is my second least favorite, but it's not a bad movie. 593 00:45:19.539 --> 00:45:22.769 That's a thing. It's better than a lot of other movies. There 594 00:45:22.809 --> 00:45:30.570 are some movies that are just more rewatchable than others. Like I'm not gearing 595 00:45:30.610 --> 00:45:37.599 up to rewatch shame or Schindler's list or the pianist or come and see like 596 00:45:37.960 --> 00:45:42.840 again, like those kind of those movies take a lot out of you, 597 00:45:42.960 --> 00:45:45.760 and I'm phantom threat isn't dealing with as heavy subject matter is any of those 598 00:45:45.840 --> 00:45:51.510 films, but I feel like for emotional dramas, not we're not talking about 599 00:45:51.510 --> 00:45:58.949 like comedy dramas or or like Rom comms, like pure like. I feel 600 00:45:58.989 --> 00:46:00.869 like phantom thread is a drama in the pure sense of the work, because 601 00:46:00.909 --> 00:46:07.340 Paul Thomas Anderson Movies are mostly action dramas, like bookie nights or the master, 602 00:46:07.340 --> 00:46:13.739 or there will be blood is like you know, like yeah, phantom 603 00:46:13.820 --> 00:46:17.219 thread is so personal. So I can understand why it wouldn't be like a 604 00:46:17.300 --> 00:46:22.610 movie that people rush to Rewatch, even though when you do watch you kind 605 00:46:22.610 --> 00:46:27.849 of uncover get layers and you know, just like any good movie, if 606 00:46:28.170 --> 00:46:30.969 you learn more about it and you kind of respect it more because it's so 607 00:46:31.170 --> 00:46:35.800 well made, that there will always be more defined. I guess that's a 608 00:46:35.840 --> 00:46:37.920 good point. Of the stagnation. I think maybe that's what like. It's 609 00:46:38.000 --> 00:46:40.920 the movie feels a lot more still and that they are. That's a solid 610 00:46:40.920 --> 00:46:45.320 point. Is I couldn't put into words like what I was like, but 611 00:46:45.400 --> 00:46:50.469 ahead against it. I guess it just sounds boring to me. That's right. 612 00:46:52.909 --> 00:47:00.190 And then you watch the trailer it's like I'll pass, you see, 613 00:47:00.230 --> 00:47:02.860 but I can understand that. Like when I when I first watched it, 614 00:47:02.980 --> 00:47:08.059 I wasn't like, Oh my God, like Im gonna go watch fit threat 615 00:47:08.179 --> 00:47:12.980 like that's so it's like, I guess that was me, though, like 616 00:47:13.099 --> 00:47:17.250 I put like some trailer. And this begs the question, how do you 617 00:47:17.289 --> 00:47:22.130 guys feel about trailers? Do you like going into a movie completely blind? 618 00:47:22.369 --> 00:47:24.610 You like to have a taste and I know that some of it is kind 619 00:47:24.610 --> 00:47:29.289 of dependent on like the filmmaker. Right. So if you know that it's 620 00:47:29.289 --> 00:47:32.000 a Christopher Nolan movie, you don't necessarily need to be like, Oh, 621 00:47:32.039 --> 00:47:35.639 I need to go see a trailer to see exactly what's going on, unless 622 00:47:35.639 --> 00:47:37.519 you want to just be entertained by the trailer. You kind of know, 623 00:47:37.079 --> 00:47:40.039 okay, he's going to fuck with like the my idea and concept of time. 624 00:47:40.519 --> 00:47:44.829 They're going to be a bunch of twists and, you know, some 625 00:47:45.309 --> 00:47:52.230 attractive male character that like sort of hates women. It's going to be feeling 626 00:47:52.230 --> 00:47:58.619 out most of the line, guys. You guys think that it depends. 627 00:47:58.980 --> 00:48:06.380 I'm always watching. I guys want to know why? Not really anyway, 628 00:48:08.260 --> 00:48:14.690 centered asshole. Yeah, what do you got? Cast the fuck out with 629 00:48:14.730 --> 00:48:19.570 you. I feel like there's two reasons. One is like, obviously a 630 00:48:19.690 --> 00:48:22.210 trailer can give you like a heads up if a movie is going to be 631 00:48:22.449 --> 00:48:25.050 worth your time, if it's going to be any good or not, so 632 00:48:25.769 --> 00:48:30.760 I'll watch it for that. Second reason is because they're kind of like their 633 00:48:30.800 --> 00:48:35.480 own sort of you've heard the same before, I'm sure, like trailers are 634 00:48:35.519 --> 00:48:38.719 like their own little like art form, right. You've heard that? Oh 635 00:48:38.760 --> 00:48:43.750 yeah, and it's like it's true, because it's like Sam you kind of 636 00:48:43.750 --> 00:48:46.670 compared it to like a short film, and it's like it can really get 637 00:48:46.829 --> 00:48:52.750 you riled up emotionally or whatever, and it can get you excited for a 638 00:48:52.869 --> 00:48:58.019 movie, can get you feeling all different type of ways, which I feel 639 00:48:58.099 --> 00:49:01.940 I can enhance my viewing experience when I finally go to watch the movie in 640 00:49:02.099 --> 00:49:07.420 the same way that not watching a trailer, not having any idea what the 641 00:49:07.460 --> 00:49:09.650 movie is going to be about. Can also enhance my experience. I feel 642 00:49:09.690 --> 00:49:15.650 like, you know, there's it can work both ways for me. HMM, 643 00:49:16.170 --> 00:49:20.730 yeah, I I know you don't like trailers. You like watching them. 644 00:49:21.050 --> 00:49:24.679 I'm annoyed by your temper. Take like take goddamn stance, like punch. 645

00:49:24.760 --> 00:49:30.000 means. Basically, I love trailers. They are necessary what I put 646 00:49:30.079 --> 00:49:32.679 eating box. So it's think they're necessary. I just I love them because 647 00:49:34.000 --> 00:49:37.559 of the reasons I stated, like I don't I don't have a strong like 648 00:49:37.239 --> 00:49:40.949 I watch it and I feel like you should watch it because Bamam like no, 649 00:49:42.070 --> 00:49:45.789 I won't. Let's kid with the House and who changed. I don't 650 00:49:45.909 --> 00:49:50.590 care if you don't like trailer's it is. It's a it's a weird middle 651 00:49:50.670 --> 00:49:55.300 ground because, yeah, they can absolutely enhance the experience, but I've had 652 00:49:57.219 --> 00:50:00.980 I've had more moments where it's detracted from my experience and I feel like I 653 00:50:01.179 --> 00:50:05.780 wish that. I know's very yeah, he's like yeah, it like a 654 00:50:05.900 --> 00:50:09.250 good trailer, like we good trailer for a bad movie or a bad trailer 655 00:50:09.329 --> 00:50:13.489 for a good movie. You know, like get their separate entities. But 656 00:50:13.650 --> 00:50:16.130 like when I was a kid before I go to a movie. I'd watch 657 00:50:16.289 --> 00:50:21.170 you like all the trailers are a hundred times and then I'd be watching the 658 00:50:21.289 --> 00:50:23.199 movie and then, like a carrot, you think of character died, but 659 00:50:23.280 --> 00:50:25.480 then I'm in my head. I'd be like, oh, but there's a 660 00:50:25.519 --> 00:50:29.480 shot on the trailer with them in it that hasn't come up yet, so 661 00:50:29.519 --> 00:50:32.119 I know that they're alive. So kind of like that's interest. That never 662 00:50:32.280 --> 00:50:36.349 happens with me. I never think about it like that. I don't know. 663 00:50:36.469 --> 00:50:38.349 Like I guess, like you was, my brain was always still, 664 00:50:38.510 --> 00:50:44.070 is always running during a movie. So like I found that when I started 665 00:50:44.070 --> 00:50:52.019 avoiding trailers, I I wasn't like I was experiencing the movie like in its 666 00:50:52.139 --> 00:50:58.340 purest form, like I walked in like with it comes at night. Have 667 00:50:58.460 --> 00:51:02.699 you guys seen that? Yeah, I I've heard so much hate for this 668 00:51:02.900 --> 00:51:07.889 movie, like I've heard an exorbitant amount of hate for for it comes at 669 00:51:07.889 --> 00:51:14.449 night, and I didn't understand it. And I think it's because I was 670 00:51:14.530 --> 00:51:16.530 working in red deer. I was like by myself. I got know everybody 671 00:51:16.570 --> 00:51:21.840 there and like yeah, I was living on like the kind of the company 672 00:51:21.920 --> 00:51:25.159 property. It's a long, weird story, but the owner like he's like 673 00:51:25.280 --> 00:51:29.119 yeah, you can like borrow like the company vehicle and go into town or 674 00:51:29.159 --> 00:51:31.000 what you do it, I fuck you want. So, like I seen 675 00:51:31.119 --> 00:51:35.349 the poster of it comes at night and I was like, Damn you, 676 00:51:35.510 --> 00:51:38.869 just like the dog just staring off into the darkness. I was like wow, 677 00:51:39.150 --> 00:51:42.949 what a what a cool poster. That's all I knew. I walked 678 00:51:42.989 --> 00:51:45.630 in the movie by myself. I popcorn walking in the theater. I sat 679 00:51:45.710 --> 00:51:51.659 like not near anybody either, and I just experienced this movie. I just 680 00:51:51.900 --> 00:51:54.980 was just chucked into the fire on it and I loved it. I loved 681 00:51:55.059 --> 00:51:59.659 my experience. I felt like I was so wrapped up in this world that 682 00:51:59.739 --> 00:52:02.849 I know I was even walking into and I was raving about it and, 683 00:52:02.889 --> 00:52:07.690 you know, I was like everyone should see this, and nobody, nobody 684 00:52:07.730 --> 00:52:10.969 came back with like good responses. And then I gave I gave up on 685 00:52:12.090 --> 00:52:14.849 it. Comes at it comes at night and I realized that I just had 686 00:52:14.889 --> 00:52:20.159 a very unique experience with it because I avoided the marketing. Well, I 687 00:52:20.239 --> 00:52:22.880 feel like I feel like like anything else, enjoyment is a sort of product 688 00:52:23.000 --> 00:52:30.230 of expectations and attitude going into it. So, you know, it it 689 00:52:30.429 --> 00:52:32.030 really depends on how you kind of view the trailer like if you're someone who's 690 00:52:32.070 --> 00:52:35.550 going to like look for clues and all that kind of stuff, I think 691 00:52:35.590 --> 00:52:38.030 you're missing the point because, yeah, I don't do that. Yeah, 692 00:52:38.190 --> 00:52:40.309 trail, a trailer is made, and I'm not saying that either of you 693 00:52:40.909 --> 00:52:45.139 general you, but I feel like trailers are at this point, this is 694 00:52:45.179 --> 00:52:47.380 where I kind of disagree with you, DJ, like I don't think they're 695 00:52:47.380 --> 00:52:52.659 in art form whatsoever. I think they are pure advertisements, and I'm okay 696 00:52:52.699 --> 00:52:58.059 with that, because a trailer, for me, is meant to enhance the 697 00:52:58.219 --> 00:53:02.489 experience. So in so far as like, it builds hype and excitement around 698 00:53:02.489 --> 00:53:06.409 the movie. So I the many saints of new work did that for me. 699 00:53:06.530 --> 00:53:12.050 Like it got me jazz to see young Gandolf any in in like a 700 00:53:12.210 --> 00:53:15.519 movie playing his father. Okay, but would you say like all trailers are 701 00:53:15.599 --> 00:53:19.920 the same? To them they're just advertisements, or is there a clear like 702 00:53:20.159 --> 00:53:23.559 this trailer, it's better than this trailer? There, of course they are 703 00:53:23.679 --> 00:53:28.989 good. Look, Don Draper was better at making ads than other ad met 704 00:53:29.190 --> 00:53:31.550 like

yeah, but I'm not even talking about in the sense of like an 705 00:53:31.630 --> 00:53:35.789 advertisement, like Oh yeah, this got me hooked. Now I want to 706 00:53:35.829 --> 00:53:38.469 watch this movie. I'm just saying, like you watch the trailer and you're 707 00:53:38.469 --> 00:53:42.780 like this is really well put together, it's well edited, the music is 708 00:53:42.900 --> 00:53:45.900 good. I don't think. I don't think the moment that you can trailer 709 00:53:45.099 --> 00:53:50.820 in those terms in my entire in my entire experience, and and maybe maybe 710 00:53:51.260 --> 00:53:55.050 I'm missing something, because I'm sure there takes like craft and skill to make 711 00:53:55.250 --> 00:53:58.849 the trailer, just like it takes craft and skill to make it that. 712 00:53:59.010 --> 00:54:00.849 That's the kind of stuff that I like examine when I watch a trailer, 713 00:54:00.929 --> 00:54:05.170 not so much of like Oh, look at this moment in the movie. 714 00:54:05.369 --> 00:54:07.289 I wonder what that means, like I'm not dissecting it like that. I'm 715 00:54:07.329 --> 00:54:12.639 watching it for purely you know, how this person put it together for me 716 00:54:12.800 --> 00:54:16.400 to experience it. That makes sense at for me, like it's purely just 717 00:54:17.639 --> 00:54:22.079 for I'm looking for an expression of why I should be excited about this movie, 718 00:54:22.559 --> 00:54:27.670 and many saints of Newark did that for me. It gave me some 719 00:54:28.230 --> 00:54:30.949 some Tony Soprano moments. Thought it was the TV show when I saw the 720 00:54:31.030 --> 00:54:34.869 trailer. At first I'm like this is it's very pretty, probably good for 721 00:54:34.949 --> 00:54:37.989 a TV show, and then I saw a movie in the comments. I 722 00:54:37.070 --> 00:54:39.940 look, what the fuck, this is a movie, and Alps a Gucci, 723 00:54:39.980 --> 00:54:43.820 which we all just watched, did that the end of that trailer where 724 00:54:44.139 --> 00:54:46.900 Poor Lady Gaga says I don't think of myself as an ethical person. I'm 725 00:54:46.980 --> 00:54:52.380 like, Oh my God, I'm all in, I want to see I'm 726 00:54:52.500 --> 00:54:54.969 all in. This is amazing. Where can I pay you twenty dollars to 727 00:54:55.010 --> 00:55:00.650 see that? Yeah, honestly. Yeah, this is a good example because 728 00:55:00.650 --> 00:55:05.289 I haven't really been the huge on a lot of like I wouldn't say the 729 00:55:05.369 --> 00:55:07.199 really Scotts, one of my favorite filmmakers. Like sometimes, you know, 730 00:55:07.320 --> 00:55:12.400 like something like like exodus, like Gods and men, like I'm like, 731 00:55:12.559 --> 00:55:15.199 I don't give a fuck, like I don't like it's just grand, sweeping, 732 00:55:15.280 --> 00:55:16.440 epic. I'm like, I just you're the only one that gives a 733 00:55:16.480 --> 00:55:22.110 shit, really, Scott, and like even like the the alien like prequels. 734

00:55:22.150 --> 00:55:25.469 I'm like these are cool, but like, I don't think anyone cared 735 00:55:25.789 --> 00:55:30.429 this much about where the Zeno such an interesting filmmaker. Like sometimes he makes 736 00:55:30.510 --> 00:55:34.309 this to just blows your mind how good it is, and then other times 737 00:55:34.349 --> 00:55:38.139 he makes other stuff. You're like it needs going on here. Like there's 738 00:55:38.219 --> 00:55:43.980 bits, there's bits in Prometheus and aithing covenant that are bad. I'm like 739 00:55:44.099 --> 00:55:46.739 this is like bad filmmaking here. It's a good's weird. But then yeah, 740 00:55:46.820 --> 00:55:50.369 so, like I was like okay, I didn't really give a shit 741 00:55:50.409 --> 00:55:52.250 about house of Gucci. Like I like all that look cool. I was 742 00:55:52.329 --> 00:55:55.050 like, Oh, I all see it. Sounds seems interesting. I'll see 743 00:55:55.090 --> 00:55:59.889 it, but like, I don't know, watching this trailer. Yeah, 744 00:55:59.969 --> 00:56:01.570 like it. It built. It built like for me and I was like, 745 00:56:02.250 --> 00:56:07.000 wow, there's a lot more. I was shockingly surprised at the start 746 00:56:07.079 --> 00:56:10.320 of how you actually was. Yeah, but I can't lie. I can't 747 00:56:10.360 --> 00:56:15.320 lie. It lost me like near the ends. I didn't I started to 748 00:56:15.440 --> 00:56:21.630 devolve when it was like sex, drugs. It's like really that really bad 749 00:56:21.829 --> 00:56:24.150 shot of like the gun, or it's like and you know, it feel 750 00:56:24.190 --> 00:56:28.869 like that's when it felt like an add at that point. And from yeah, 751 00:56:29.510 --> 00:56:31.670 but like exactly, but a yeah and art. I was like wow, 752 00:56:31.829 --> 00:56:37.539 Adam driver looks great and I hmm, everybody like since are really good. 753 00:56:37.820 --> 00:56:38.980 Like yeah, like I thought. I thought you guys brought it up 754 00:56:38.980 --> 00:56:42.940 because this the movie looked like Shit and jared leto was in it and I 755 00:56:43.099 --> 00:56:47.929 was a ready to laugh about it. Looks it looked too good at the 756 00:56:47.969 --> 00:56:51.889 start. I say this every time I see jared Leto in a movie, 757 00:56:52.130 --> 00:56:54.050 like I'm down to see the greatest performance of all time, like, if 758 00:56:54.090 --> 00:56:57.849 that's what he thinks, he's giving me all, take it. If it 759 00:56:58.130 --> 00:57:00.650 is, I don't care that it's from jared letto. If, if it 760 00:57:00.889 --> 00:57:02.519 is, if it happens to be the greatest performance of all the time, 761 00:57:04.000 --> 00:57:06.239 like, of course I'll take it. I'm not going to do you don't 762 00:57:06.280 --> 00:57:09.280 think you're too jaded on him now that like, that's I try not to 763 00:57:09.360 --> 00:57:12.920 be. I try not to be a Jack in a sports analogy here. 764 00:57:13.599 --> 00:57:19.630 Yes, Jared Letto is like

Ryan Howard in two thousand and thirteen on the 765 00:57:19.710 --> 00:57:23.789 phillies. Ryan Howard, just for some context, he was a baseball player. 766 00:57:23.829 --> 00:57:27.750 He want an MVP, he was a like a slugger. He was 767 00:57:27.750 --> 00:57:31.260 a first baseman. Hit bombs, hit home runs, swing for the fences 768 00:57:31.420 --> 00:57:35.980 all the time, and for about four years he was just crushing it. 769 00:57:36.260 --> 00:57:38.460 Ton of Urbis, ton of home runs, but then at a certain point 770 00:57:39.460 --> 00:57:44.889 it all just fell off and now he was striking out all the time. 771 00:57:45.530 --> 00:57:49.250 Wasn't hitting home runs and he was a liability. But every time he went 772 00:57:49.289 --> 00:57:52.530 up to the plate he still swung for the fences. What he crank one 773 00:57:52.570 --> 00:57:55.449 every once in a while shore but he was an inefficient player that was out 774 00:57:55.449 --> 00:58:00.000 of the League within a year. Jared let out is that as an actor. 775 00:58:00.039 --> 00:58:06.039 He swings full the fences. He strikes out, yes, and eventually 776 00:58:06.760 --> 00:58:14.869 strike out enough times you just suck like yeah, that, like that's the 777 00:58:14.989 --> 00:58:19.349 I don't know, like that makes so much sense, obviously, but but 778 00:58:19.510 --> 00:58:22.710 like yeah, if he if he happens to be great, I'm not going 779 00:58:22.750 --> 00:58:27.860 to deny it just because I haven't liked him previously. You know, like 780 00:58:29.019 --> 00:58:31.340 even like with the the well, the little things, I was like. 781 00:58:32.300 --> 00:58:35.420 I was like, okay, like, you know what, like, look 782 00:58:35.460 --> 00:58:37.780 at there's another one. Maybe if I saw the trailer for that movie, 783 00:58:37.820 --> 00:58:39.619 I wouldn't have gone to it, like because I wasn't this great. Know 784 00:58:39.780 --> 00:58:44.570 the trailer may be excited. Really, Oh fuck, I walked in blind 785 00:58:44.610 --> 00:58:51.130 and I hated I seemed like that. That would piss me off. If 786 00:58:51.210 --> 00:58:53.369 I walked into a movie blind and it was that bad, I'd be angry 787 00:58:53.409 --> 00:58:59.239 at myself or not watching the trailer and preventing myself from you know, but 788 00:58:59.360 --> 00:59:01.280 then what it? I think? Can you see how the little things would 789 00:59:01.280 --> 00:59:06.360 like make a great trailer, even though the movie to basically, I know, 790 00:59:07.199 --> 00:59:13.710 like Mont the singular moments that you could like push together to be like, 791 00:59:13.829 --> 00:59:16.829 Oh my God, there's like an interesting crime drama happening with these awesome 792 00:59:16.869 --> 00:59:21.670 actors. Am I getting like seven, twenty five years later? Let me 793 00:59:21.710 --> 00:59:24.300 see, and then. But okay, so would you be more mad, 794 00:59:24.380 --> 00:59:29.460 Dj if you walked into if you saw an awesome trailer and you walked in 795 00:59:29.619 --> 00:59:31.380 you hated the movie, or if you didn't see a trailer at all and 796 00:59:31.460 --> 00:59:36.260 you watched and hated? If I didn't see a trailer and I walked in 797 00:59:36.300 --> 00:59:38.130 and I hate the movie? Yeah, like, like, yeah, I 798 00:59:39.690 --> 00:59:43.650 like. Or like, what if you were hyped up and then you hated 799 00:59:43.690 --> 00:59:47.090 it? Or like you blindly went and took a chance? You know, 800 00:59:47.210 --> 00:59:52.130 I don't know what. I don't know what's we'rest like. Maybe maybe, 801 00:59:52.409 --> 00:59:55.800 maybe neither is worse, maybe they're just on the same, same level. 802 00:59:55.920 --> 01:00:00.320 For me, yeah, because because I don't like even if the trailer got 803 01:00:00.360 --> 01:00:06.159 me hyped up, I'm not going into the movie putting a hundred percent faith 804 01:00:06.400 --> 01:00:08.309 that it's going to live up to the trailer. I know that there's a 805 01:00:08.349 --> 01:00:13.110 chance that it might disappoint. I know the trailer is not a hundred percent 806 01:00:13.150 --> 01:00:19.030 accurate all the time, right. So I'm not setting myself up for disappointment 807 01:00:19.070 --> 01:00:22.820 in that way. But it could still disappoint me, obviously, and I'd 808 01:00:22.860 --> 01:00:27.900 be yes, but I'd be just as pissed if I didn't watch a trailer 809 01:00:27.900 --> 01:00:30.300 and I watch a movie and I it's just, you know, ended up 810 01:00:30.340 --> 01:00:37.650 being horrible. Well, yes, I'm thinking about this with house of Gucci. 811 01:00:37.650 --> 01:00:40.130 We're like it's a fun, exciting trailer, but then I'm like, 812 01:00:40.449 --> 01:00:44.250 I don't feel like the movie is going to be this fun, like I 813 01:00:44.289 --> 01:00:46.369 don't feel like it's going to be at the pace that the trailer is at, 814 01:00:46.570 --> 01:00:51.159 you know. So, like fair point. Yeah, so I'm like, 815 01:00:51.440 --> 01:00:52.360 I don't so that's why I like, I kind of I don't know. 816 01:00:52.400 --> 01:00:57.960 I go in like gingerly, I guess. Yeah, off the trailer 817 01:00:58.039 --> 01:01:04.630 alone, I probably wouldn't want want to watch the movie. Yeah, and 818 01:01:04.869 --> 01:01:07.630 you know, yeah, okay, yeah, we're going to I don't know 819 01:01:07.630 --> 01:01:09.630 how long we've gone. We're going to we're going to wrap up real soon. 820 01:01:12.190 --> 01:01:16.590 But yeah, like, I I think that overall the art of trailers 821 01:01:16.630 --> 01:01:21.579 has dipped, like, you know, like that's like they've seen some blockbusters 822 01:01:21.699 --> 01:01:25.219 in with at all, if it's even an art to begin with. They 823 01:01:25.260 --> 01:01:29.780 see this, I think. I think my contention from the very beginning is 824 01:01:29.900 --> 01:01:35.449 just different from from maybe your guys. I

don't think trailers are are as 825 01:01:35.449 --> 01:01:39.329 much as I don't think advertisements are art. Actually they are. They are 826 01:01:39.489 --> 01:01:45.250 in art. They're just not an art that I care about consuming in any 827 01:01:45.289 --> 01:01:57.280 sort of analytical or contemplative way. I use in view them in their most 828 01:01:57.440 --> 01:02:00.000 basic form, which is kind of how they're intended to make me buy a 829 01:02:00.079 --> 01:02:07.869 ticket, just like an advertisement wants me to buy tied instead of chlora whatever. 830 01:02:07.070 --> 01:02:14.110 Like I'm okay with not going deeper because I don't think it goes that 831 01:02:14.269 --> 01:02:17.260 deep to begin with. I get that. That makes sense. I just 832 01:02:17.380 --> 01:02:22.139 seen some really fantastic trailers in my life that I'm like, that's fairly shit, 833 01:02:22.380 --> 01:02:27.300 like the trailer for hereditary was fantastic. A lot of it, the 834 01:02:27.300 --> 01:02:30.690 eight hundred and twenty four trailers are really good, just like they move a 835 01:02:30.969 --> 01:02:37.409 Scott Making get a twenty four at what the fuck looking now. This is 836 01:02:37.449 --> 01:02:40.409 when we end it. We just cut off the book. As what I 837 01:02:42.530 --> 01:02:46.320 can tell you, I will I will certainly watch that movie just because he 838 01:02:46.480 --> 01:02:51.840 wrote it and I have no idea what that'll look like. Well, I 839 01:02:52.000 --> 01:02:54.320 hope that the next time that we return to the show that we can talk 840 01:02:54.400 --> 01:03:00.789 about the green night. I. That's that's this weekend right, or last 841 01:03:00.789 --> 01:03:02.550 weekend? It came out. I can't remember. It already came out. 842 01:03:02.829 --> 01:03:07.230 It's in the theater right now, I'm pretty sure. So I'm I want 843 01:03:07.269 --> 01:03:09.429 to be going to that. Maybe we can talk about suicide squad. We 844 01:03:09.510 --> 01:03:15.059 will reconvene. Yeah, so I guess that was an episode of we we 845 01:03:15.139 --> 01:03:20.539 make movies. It really flew by. I really I might go. Yeah, 846 01:03:20.860 --> 01:03:23.539 I'm really glad you guys came around. And Yeah, this show is 847 01:03:24.340 --> 01:03:30.409 we have not had any sort of like consistent schedule in terms of release and 848 01:03:30.329 --> 01:03:34.530 just because, like, life is really busy and if you're tuning in, 849 01:03:35.010 --> 01:03:37.449 we appreciate it. It's all I want to say. Like you know, 850 01:03:37.610 --> 01:03:42.400 like thank you for hanging out and waiting. Like we have a lot of 851 01:03:42.519 --> 01:03:45.159 things on the move. We have a lot of plans. There's maybe a 852 01:03:45.239 --> 01:03:51.199 short film coming out at some point from people. I don't know who. 853 01:03:51.360 --> 01:03:53.599 From her, these people, I don't know. But we care about these 854 01:03:53.639 --> 01:03:57.630 people. Do we care about the shit they make? We don't know. 855 01:03:57.750 --> 01:04:03.309 Maybe, maybe, maybe not. kind of I can't rebody. Well, 856 01:04:03.349 --> 01:04:09.429 yeah, regardless, I hope you stay tuned. Yeah, let's let's keep 857 01:04:09.469 --> 01:04:14.179 the ball rolling, that's keep the show going. If you couldn't give us 858 01:04:14.219 --> 01:04:18.500 a follow on instagram and twitter at we make movies pod. I want to 859 01:04:18.500 --> 01:04:24.099 strip be a little more active on there. Give me a follow on twitter, 860 01:04:24.139 --> 01:04:28.730 instagram at Cambletsky DJ. Where can we find you? On instagram? 861 01:04:28.849 --> 01:04:33.130 At Dj Carney. It's your letter box as well. I don't forgerver. 862 01:04:33.170 --> 01:04:38.050 Still doing that? Well, I always just I always forget what mine using 863 01:04:39.360 --> 01:04:43.639 at this point. I've advertised that enough. If you're interesting, go on 864 01:04:43.760 --> 01:04:47.119 my instagram. I got like my movie list stuff posted on there too, 865 01:04:47.199 --> 01:04:50.320 as well. So Hmm, yeah, yeah, you're right. You post 866 01:04:50.360 --> 01:04:56.269 all your letterbuck stuff on there anyways. Samuel, can we where can we 867 01:04:56.429 --> 01:05:02.030 find you? Only in a with I wouldn't waste your time. You know, 868 01:05:03.269 --> 01:05:10.019 who really gives a fuck? Don't follow, don't like, don't rate, 869 01:05:10.139 --> 01:05:15.940 don't subscribe it. Who really gives a fuck and we find that one 870 01:05:17.659 --> 01:05:21.449 all right. Yeah, okay, well, I'm next time. Yeah, 871 01:05:21.809 --> 01:05:41.519 thanks again, everybody. We will catch you all soon. This podcast is 872 01:05:41.639 --> 01:05:45.639 part of the Saskatchewan podcast network, so visits US podcast Networkcom for more podcast 873 01:05:45.679 --> 01:05:46.920 from local Saskatchewan talent.