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and their face is this. 00:04:13.919 --> 00:04:16.800 Like, that's that would absolutely happen. 00:04:16.879 --> 00:04:18.720 I hate to say it, that's horrible. 00:04:18.959 --> 00:04:22.959 Yeah, but basically, don't get me wrong, Light is 100% evil. 00:04:23.120 --> 00:04:31.199 I just really liked his character, and I'm not gonna say this for sure, but I low-key almost as rooting from just for the thrill of the plot. 00:04:31.439 --> 00:04:32.160 Just because it was funny. 00:04:32.480 --> 00:04:40.240 And I I I will be the first to say I really enjoy Death Note and that, and you can't do enjoying Death Note without enjoying Light. 00:04:40.480 --> 00:04:46.639 I hate him, but I also respect him as a character, like he is an enjoyable character to watch. 00:04:46.800 --> 00:04:50.639 And you hating him this much makes the ending that much more satisfying. 00:04:50.800 --> 00:04:53.360 So yeah, it's it is a thrill to watch, it's very good. 00:04:53.680 --> 00:04:54.720 I don't hate him though. 00:04:54.879 --> 00:04:56.800 But I have my better answer. 00:04:57.360 --> 00:04:59.439 Fine, go ahead and do that. 00:05:00.160 --> 00:05:01.759 He is evil. 00:05:02.720 --> 00:05:05.519 But he's and I'm not not with an asterisk. 00:05:05.680 --> 00:05:06.959 He's just evil. 00:05:07.199 --> 00:05:17.759 He suddenly wants to kill all disruptive people in society and believes he and he alone has the authority to determine who deserves to go with no trial or anything. 00:05:18.000 --> 00:05:21.120 He may be naive and immature, but he's also a merciless. 00:05:21.360 --> 00:05:23.519 Excuse me, he's also merciless. 00:05:24.079 --> 00:05:28.560 Forgive me, I wrote my answer down because I was feeling very passionate about it. 00:05:28.720 --> 00:05:31.600 He kills innocent people at the slightest danger to his cover. 00:05:31.680 --> 00:05:35.839 He sacrifices his accomplices and even considers sacrificing his own sister. 00:05:36.000 --> 00:05:40.879 I also don't think his motivation is very sympathetic compared to others, even Misa's. 00:05:41.040 --> 00:05:52.240 Now, Misa is not a good person either, but she I know you don't like her, but she wanted to kill the people who killed her parents. 00:05:52.560 --> 00:05:54.240 That's very understandable. 00:05:54.480 --> 00:06:06.000 Light didn't lose any parents, light didn't go through hard times, even like that guy I that character I hate, uh Tedomikami, he was like bullied incessantly. 00:06:06.160 --> 00:06:11.360 And Light was just this promising honor student who had had like a very strong. 00:06:12.639 --> 00:06:13.600 He was Trump of his class. 00:06:13.920 --> 00:06:14.800 Yeah, he was the best. 00:06:14.959 --> 00:06:17.439 He had like the brightest future ahead of him, a loving family. 00:06:17.839 --> 00:06:19.439 Another reason why I don't think it was that surprising. 00:06:19.759 --> 00:06:26.079 Doesn't have like for some people, they're desperate, and you would understand why they're using

the death note. 00:06:26.720 --> 00:06:39.439 Like if if um Denji from Chainsaw Man got the death note when he was homeless and starving and trying to pay off his father's debt to the Yakuza, I would a hundred percent understand him using it to kill the Yakuza, and no one would care. 00:06:39.600 --> 00:06:41.839 No one would call him evil for doing that. 00:06:42.240 --> 00:06:44.800 But Light has no reason. 00:06:44.959 --> 00:06:48.240 He just grab takes it and thinks No, he just decides to be a god. 00:06:48.480 --> 00:06:51.759 And thinks I am the chosen one, no other person would do this. 00:06:52.000 --> 00:06:52.639 Who said this? 00:06:52.720 --> 00:06:59.600 Uh Ryuk said, Yeah, most people would never have killed as many people as you did, and they would have felt really guilty about it. 00:06:59.680 --> 00:07:01.519 So that's what is odd here. 00:07:01.759 --> 00:07:03.680 And L takes, or not L. 00:07:04.079 --> 00:07:04.160 B. 00:07:04.720 --> 00:07:06.240 I keep getting 96 step. 00:07:06.399 --> 00:07:11.519 Light, light takes this as, oh see, only I can do this, only I'm equipped to do this. 00:07:11.759 --> 00:07:15.279 No, bro, that just means you're worse than most people. 00:07:15.680 --> 00:07:17.680 Actually, that's what he was saying. 00:07:18.000 --> 00:07:22.720 And Ryuk may be neutral, but that doesn't mean he doesn't recognize evil when he sees it. 00:07:22.959 --> 00:07:23.279 Yeah. 00:07:23.519 --> 00:07:27.519 I feel like I just think there's just nothing to sympathize with him at all. 00:07:27.680 --> 00:07:28.879 Now that is okay. 00:07:29.040 --> 00:07:30.000 That's totally okay. 00:07:30.079 --> 00:07:35.759 But if there are people sympathizing with him, he's not the most sympathetic character in the story whatsoever. 00:07:36.160 --> 00:07:36.639 No, you can't. 00:07:36.800 --> 00:07:38.319 He's just completely selfish. 00:07:38.560 --> 00:07:42.720 I have another bullet point question, but did you have any other thoughts on that? 00:07:43.120 --> 00:07:44.319 No, not really. 00:07:44.879 --> 00:07:49.920 Okay, well, it's not often that stories like this are told from the killer's perspective. 00:07:50.079 --> 00:07:52.079 Why do you think it's effective here? 00:07:52.639 --> 00:07:55.920 I think just because it's like, first off, it's just unique. 00:07:56.160 --> 00:08:00.800 Like it's really interesting and unique to see it from the villain's point of view. 00:08:01.120 --> 00:08:08.079 And like, don't get me wrong, we get lots of different viewpoints from all the other characters, but it's definitely centered around uh like. 00:08:08.399 --> 00:08:10.720 Yeah, I think the main reason is basically that. 00:08:10.800 --> 00:08:18.720 Like you get to see, like, basically like see the villain and what's going on in his mind and how he works, you know, and uh I thought it was unique. 00:08:19.920 --> 00:08:31.519 Do you think some people think that if someone is a main character, that automatically means the writer is endorsing that character's actions, or that that character is supposed to be intended to be the role model. 00:08:31.920 --> 00:08:34.000 I sincerely disagree with this. 00:08:34.240 --> 00:08:34.399 Yeah. 00:08:34.879 --> 00:08:38.159 So I do not think, and I honestly forgot the author's name. 00:08:38.240 --> 00:08:39.440 I'm so sorry. 00:08:39.840 --> 00:08:44.879 The person who wrote Death Note, I do not think they were intending light to be a role model. 00:08:45.039 --> 00:08:49.759 I think they were trying to show the hubris of man's nature. 00:08:50.159 --> 00:08:51.519 How low we can get, you know. 00:08:52.240 --> 00:08:58.000 Basically, or or even just like a normal person who isn't even bad, like light wasn't bad. 00:08:58.639 --> 00:09:08.879 But then you put the right just the right amount of ingredients in, like give them just the right amount of power, and it can change even some of the best people you would know. 00:09:09.120 --> 00:09:09.279 Yeah. 00:09:09.600 --> 00:09:12.960 I'm not saying that like this that everyone would do what light did. 00:09:13.200 --> 00:09:17.440 Some people are better than that, but a lot of people would. 00:09:17.840 --> 00:09:19.919 And that's the scary thing about humans. 00:09:20.159 --> 00:09:25.120 I feel like another thing, I feel like the anime is very um symbolic. 00:09:25.440 --> 00:09:26.399 Oh, well, absolutely. 00:09:26.720 --> 00:09:27.279 Heavily, for sure. 00:09:27.600 --> 00:09:36.320 Like, even just in the intros, the uh imagery is very Christian, although that's probably like because of it's it's a gothic show. 00:09:36.879 --> 00:09:44.720 Um Naomi Mister holding uh Ray Penber like the the Saint Madonna statue, you know? 00:09:45.679 --> 00:09:47.679 Or even just the apples. 00:09:50.320 --> 00:09:52.799 Oh boy, did Light ever bite that apple? 00:09:52.879 --> 00:09:56.080 But and then Ryuke ate all the apples, but we love Ryuk here. 00:09:56.240 --> 00:10:00.879 Ryuki is Ryuki's actually my favorite character, but we'll get into that later. 00:10:01.120 --> 00:10:10.879 But speaking of the right ingredients, do you, Lyndon, think Death Note is like the one ring from Lord of the Rings, as in no one is able to wield it without being corrupted? 00:10:11.120 --> 00:10:14.559 Or is it possible for human beings to use it for good at all? 00:10:14.879 --> 00:10:21.440 I will say Light's father briefly uses the notebook in the movie in the show with moral restraint. 00:10:21.600 --> 00:10:22.559 You saw that, right? 00:10:22.639 --> 00:10:23.039 Mm-hmm. 00:10:23.200 --> 00:10:25.360 So it seems like it is possible. 00:10:25.679 --> 00:10:35.840 Very unlikely, but I feel like uh it's not like like the ring, again, I can't wait to do an actual episode on uh Lord of the Rings. 00:10:36.080 --> 00:10:36.559 Me too. 00:10:36.799 --> 00:10:53.039 But I would say they're similar in the way of like with the Death Note, if anyone gets the Death Note and they figure out its power, there

there would most definitely be temptation to use it like that. 00:10:53.279 --> 00:11:04.240 So there is a similarity with the ring on like the temptation side, but where versus like the ring, it like it will tempt you, like it is meant to corrupt minds. 00:11:04.639 --> 00:11:06.480 So like like that's its power. 00:11:06.639 --> 00:11:13.120 So it's not similar in that way, but in terms of like temptation, they they both have that aspect. 00:11:13.519 --> 00:11:18.320 So it's less like the one ring and more like a billion dollars? 00:11:18.639 --> 00:11:20.159 Yes, very much so. 00:11:20.480 --> 00:11:25.039 Because a billion dollars isn't good or evil, it's just money. 00:11:25.440 --> 00:11:36.960 But you could use money easily to kill people, maybe, or so or do other bad things, or you could let it get to your head and act like you're better than everyone else just because you have money. 00:11:38.480 --> 00:11:42.320 So we're not taking the death note to the mountains of Mordor. 00:11:43.279 --> 00:11:44.080 Nope. 00:11:44.399 --> 00:11:48.960 Oh yeah, follow one of the one of the like Ryuke to the their language. 00:11:49.279 --> 00:11:53.440 Oh my gosh, imagine a Death Note version of Lord of the Rings where Ryuke is column. 00:11:53.679 --> 00:12:00.159 I was actually just gonna say wait, so like let's say L and Light are like Sam and Frodo. 00:12:00.559 --> 00:12:02.000 Oh my goodness. 00:12:02.639 --> 00:12:03.840 Oh crazy. 00:12:04.000 --> 00:12:07.600 I don't even know how that like how the interactions would be. 00:12:08.080 --> 00:12:08.240 No. 00:12:08.639 --> 00:12:12.080 Because like the personality of L is nothing like Sam. 00:12:13.120 --> 00:12:19.519 And Frodo is much nicer than Light, but I I would be curious to see an interaction between Ryuk and Gollum. 00:12:20.320 --> 00:12:22.720 Speaking of, the hunt for Gollum is coming out, isn't it? 00:12:23.279 --> 00:12:24.240 Yes, I can't wait for that. 00:12:24.480 --> 00:12:25.360 2027. 00:12:25.840 --> 00:12:29.679 Okay, I must have seen an article about it recently because I was like, oh, is that coming out? 00:12:29.840 --> 00:12:30.240 Huh. 00:12:30.720 --> 00:12:31.600 Alright on. 00:12:31.759 --> 00:12:34.799 But yeah, is it possible to use the Death Note for good? 00:12:34.960 --> 00:12:36.320 I think actually, yes. 00:12:36.639 --> 00:12:44.720 Like, let's say it's it seems like almost impossible for people using it not to use it in a bad way. 00:12:45.279 --> 00:12:46.480 Like if they kept it. 00:12:46.879 --> 00:12:59.440 A little bit like, do you remember on Sonic was it Sonic 2 when Knuckles takes the emerald and like compresses it and hides it in a place where nobody can find it? 00:13:00.000 --> 00:13:03.679 Because he knows that somebody is gonna come and find it. 00:13:03.840 --> 00:13:09.440 And sure enough, Sonic demands that he show him in the next movie, and he's like, This is why it's hidden. 00:13:09.679 --> 00:13:13.120 So that like one person shouldn't

have that much power. 00:13:13.919 --> 00:13:17.360 To be fair, like I don't think Sonic lets the power get to his head. 00:13:17.440 --> 00:13:20.000 I think Sonic is just angry, he's so angry. 00:13:20.399 --> 00:13:24.879 But then him, him and Shadow share the power together, and then they use it positively. 00:13:24.960 --> 00:13:32.480 So I think maybe that's not the best analogy, but because like in the past, obviously, like the Echidnas used that very bad. 00:13:32.720 --> 00:13:36.080 Like they wiped out entire armies, like one guy wiped out entire armies. 00:13:36.320 --> 00:13:36.960 I get your point. 00:13:37.279 --> 00:13:50.960 But is it sort of like I feel like the death note, like Soichiro Yagami, Light's dad, he uses it to threaten Melo and to kill certain people that they needed to kill in order to save his daughter, if I recall correctly. 00:13:51.600 --> 00:13:53.759 And then he uses the death note to threaten Melo. 00:13:53.919 --> 00:13:55.759 And of course, Light's like, what are you doing? 00:13:55.919 --> 00:13:57.840 Kill him, kill him. 00:13:58.159 --> 00:14:02.559 But I think there's a very intentional reason why he would do that. 00:14:02.639 --> 00:14:07.120 He's like, if I just start, you know, killing everybody, that's you know, that's bad. 00:14:07.200 --> 00:14:12.080 Like if I have to kill someone and I happen to have the notebook to do it, then that's one thing. 00:14:12.399 --> 00:14:14.559 But he doesn't want to kill anybody. 00:14:14.879 --> 00:14:23.039 Yeah, I would say if you used it like one time in an emergency situation and then locked it up or burned it or something. 00:14:23.360 --> 00:14:24.240 That's what I would do. 00:14:24.399 --> 00:14:32.799 Yeah, but I feel like if you're keeping the book like permanently with you, like using it, I don't think it's possible to use it for good. 00:14:33.200 --> 00:14:34.159 No, I don't either. 00:14:34.720 --> 00:14:36.720 It's like you have to use it for good and then get rid of it. 00:14:36.879 --> 00:14:40.080 I was gonna say, like, what if there was like a really strict like government around it? 00:14:40.159 --> 00:14:42.159 Then I'm like, actually, that would just make the government. 00:14:42.480 --> 00:14:42.879 No government. 00:14:43.039 --> 00:14:43.919 No government, please. 00:14:45.120 --> 00:14:46.480 Here's my solution. 00:14:46.720 --> 00:14:57.519 A bunch of super, super devout monks and nuns guard the death note and only allow people to use it if they pass a series of moral tests. 00:14:58.159 --> 00:15:00.799 And then they only get one one shot with the death note. 00:15:01.840 --> 00:15:05.840 And this is my solution to the only way to use the death note for good. 00:15:06.080 --> 00:15:07.279 But I think you're right. 00:15:07.440 --> 00:15:15.279 If you kept the death note, there's just no way you wouldn't use it to kill people that you didn't have to. 00:15:15.679 --> 00:15:19.519 You would start using it conveniently and people get in the way. 00:15:19.759 --> 00:15:24.639 Or even using it to uh to threaten people, blackmail people, and so on. 00:15:24.960 --> 00:15:25.759 Control people. 00:15:26.000 --> 00:15:29.519 It's not something it's probably not something anybody should have. 00:15:30.080 --> 00:15:32.080 That's a whole lot worse than a gun. 00:15:32.480 --> 00:15:33.440 Anyways. 00:15:34.080 --> 00:15:39.759 Here is a weird question that we might not be able to answer, but I still thought it was worth asking. 00:15:40.080 --> 00:15:42.639 Is Al smarter than Sherlock Holmes? 00:15:43.039 --> 00:15:45.360 Uh I would say without a doubt. 00:15:45.440 --> 00:15:45.679 Yeah. 00:15:45.919 --> 00:15:46.240 What? 00:15:46.399 --> 00:15:46.960 I think so. 00:15:47.039 --> 00:15:47.279 Yeah. 00:15:47.519 --> 00:15:47.919 What? 00:15:48.720 --> 00:15:49.039 No. 00:15:49.679 --> 00:15:49.919 No. 00:15:50.240 --> 00:15:53.840 I think it's because they didn't show us to it in as much detail. 00:15:53.919 --> 00:15:58.480 Because like Sherlock Holmes is the main character of that show, so you see everything that's going on inside his mind. 00:15:58.639 --> 00:16:02.080 If you look at how quickly Light figures out these things. 00:16:02.320 --> 00:16:02.879 You mean L. 00:16:03.120 --> 00:16:04.159 We're sorry, oh my goodness. 00:16:04.960 --> 00:16:06.080 I remember they do the same thing. 00:16:06.159 --> 00:16:07.600 Why did you give them both L names? 00:16:07.840 --> 00:16:08.159 Okay. 00:16:08.559 --> 00:16:10.240 L, my apologies. 00:16:11.360 --> 00:16:18.399 L figures everything out so quickly and so fast without even being there in person. 00:16:18.879 --> 00:16:19.279 That's true. 00:16:19.759 --> 00:16:22.559 He's always in a separate room just gathering intel. 00:16:23.120 --> 00:16:33.120 And he was able to deduce, like within the first episode or so, that he was a student living in the Kanto region of Japan. 00:16:33.360 --> 00:16:34.000 Okay, yeah. 00:16:34.240 --> 00:16:35.840 Let me correct my original answer. 00:16:35.919 --> 00:16:39.279 I'll say they like both have have a run for their money. 00:16:39.360 --> 00:16:45.279 Like Sherlock Holmes is no doubt like one of the most smart characters uh ever written. 00:16:45.600 --> 00:16:49.279 But yeah, I still think like uh L. 00:16:49.440 --> 00:16:50.320 Oh my goodness. 00:16:50.480 --> 00:16:51.840 I still think L would win. 00:16:51.919 --> 00:16:52.159 Yes. 00:16:52.480 --> 00:17:02.480 I want to say you're right only because L is deducing something that's kind of impossible to prove because it's not tangible, it's completely supernatural. 00:17:02.799 --> 00:17:07.279 And Sherlock is deducing stuff based on actual things and people. 00:17:07.519 --> 00:17:16.880 So well, I mean, not that there are no people involved in the Kira case, but I don't want to say that Sherlock isn't close because I think their styles of deduction are quite similar. 00:17:17.119 --> 00:17:29.119 And I think that Sherlock could probably

find out a lot of the same things, it's just having next to nothing to go off of in figuring out that they're being aired on TV and stuff. 00:17:29.200 --> 00:17:40.799 So I think Sherlock could come to those conclusions, but then with all the supernatural stuff and how well Elle does, despite not even believing in the supernatural at first, is insane. 00:17:41.119 --> 00:17:44.160 I would love to see them battle it out, to be honest. 00:17:44.480 --> 00:17:51.839 But I want to say the L wins, I just don't have enough conclusive research or evidence to back that up. 00:17:52.160 --> 00:17:55.279 But off the top of my head, it does seem that way. 00:17:55.599 --> 00:17:57.839 And that is no offense to Sherlock. 00:17:57.920 --> 00:17:58.799 I really like Sherlock. 00:17:59.759 --> 00:18:03.519 I only seen the BBC show, like the the newer one. 00:18:03.680 --> 00:18:06.960 Well, it's not new, but like the Benedict Cumberbatch one. 00:18:07.119 --> 00:18:12.480 I think I saw three seasons of that and it was really good, but it would be hard to beat Elle. 00:18:12.640 --> 00:18:18.079 In a perfect world, we would have Sherlock, L, and Columbo working together too. 00:18:20.000 --> 00:18:22.079 Yeah, solving all the mysteries in the world. 00:18:22.319 --> 00:18:24.240 Well, there are some other really good detectives too. 00:18:24.319 --> 00:18:25.759 I'm just less familiar with them. 00:18:26.160 --> 00:18:29.279 I'd have to, I need to watch more detective stuff, honestly. 00:18:29.519 --> 00:18:30.640 I'll write. 00:18:30.960 --> 00:18:32.240 Favorite character. 00:18:32.480 --> 00:18:33.759 Alright, should I go first? 00:18:33.920 --> 00:18:34.400 Go ahead. 00:18:34.960 --> 00:18:35.680 Favorite character. 00:18:35.839 --> 00:18:39.839 If you say light, I'm gonna I'm sorry guys. 00:18:40.000 --> 00:18:40.480 It's light. 00:18:42.480 --> 00:18:46.160 And specifically for his writing. 00:18:46.400 --> 00:18:51.279 Everything just I love like this long monologue that they go on. 00:18:51.359 --> 00:18:53.039 Like, I'm gonna do this. 00:18:53.200 --> 00:18:55.519 And then I'll eat a potato chip. 00:18:55.759 --> 00:18:58.640 I'll take a potato chip and eat it. 00:18:58.720 --> 00:18:59.119 There we go. 00:18:59.200 --> 00:19:00.240 That's what he says. 00:19:00.480 --> 00:19:06.799 Like the way he was written, everything, like it he's just a really well-written character. 00:19:06.960 --> 00:19:09.119 It was really close between him and El, though. 00:19:09.200 --> 00:19:12.000 I like El is such a good character, like they're both great. 00:19:12.079 --> 00:19:16.319 And then honorable mention to Ryuke, but Ryuke, yeah. 00:19:16.559 --> 00:19:30.640 So light, of course, I'm not gonna lie, I love the stupid inner monologues that him and Elle have, so that like the internet has a bunch of like parody versions, which aren't even that far off from the actual ones. 00:19:30.720 --> 00:19:32.960 It's like, oh, you know, say you want to meet Monday. 00:19:33.039 --> 00:19:35.039 It's like, okay, and then he's like, Monday? 00:19:35.519 --> 00:19:36.799 I can't believe this. 00:19:37.039 --> 00:19:38.559 Like, I see what you're doing. 00:19:39.920 --> 00:19:41.119 Like, like, and it's nothing. 00:19:41.279 --> 00:19:41.680 Yeah, yeah. 00:19:41.759 --> 00:19:44.960 And tennis, it's like, if I ask Elle if he's British, what will he say? 00:19:45.119 --> 00:19:52.960 And he's like, and he literally says out loud, like, I did go to school in the UK, but I can assure you that that will not help you in your investigation. 00:19:53.200 --> 00:19:56.319 Because he already knows that he's like, Oh, Elle's British. 00:19:56.400 --> 00:19:57.039 I've got something. 00:19:57.200 --> 00:19:57.920 He's like, you know. 00:20:01.359 --> 00:20:03.279 He sure doesn't sound British. 00:20:03.759 --> 00:20:08.799 Then again, we were watching an English dub that wasn't an English dub of a Japanese show. 00:20:08.960 --> 00:20:17.039 The only English dub I've seen that utilizes accents to help determine where people are from is Monster. 00:20:18.480 --> 00:20:19.680 I could be wrong. 00:20:19.759 --> 00:20:32.079 There's probably other ones, but I remember that one struck me because the characters are already speaking English, even though we're supposed to assume they're speaking German or no German because it's not set in Japan. 00:20:32.480 --> 00:20:48.880 But then when they go to England, the characters they from England speak with British accents, and they are like, Oh, I'm sorry, we don't understand what you're saying, even though they're both speaking English, but we have to assume the people who sound like uh they're speaking American English are actually speaking German. 00:20:48.960 --> 00:20:51.440 And I was like, I have never seen a dub like this. 00:20:51.680 --> 00:20:52.880 So that's really funny. 00:20:53.920 --> 00:20:59.119 Yeah, I I think that's actually a cool way to do like a dub of an international show. 00:20:59.440 --> 00:21:02.240 But yeah, there's a lot of countries in that show. 00:21:02.559 --> 00:21:04.319 Alright, your favorite character. 00:21:04.559 --> 00:21:06.400 My favorite character is Ryuk. 00:21:07.359 --> 00:21:08.480 I was gonna say L. 00:21:08.799 --> 00:21:11.119 Part of me wants to say L because I really do love him. 00:21:11.279 --> 00:21:14.480 I love the stupid way he holds everything. 00:21:15.440 --> 00:21:19.039 He picks up a cell phone like he's holding a piece of paper. 00:21:19.359 --> 00:21:26.240 He even holds guns that way, and he doesn't know how to peel a banana for how how much of a genius he is. 00:21:26.319 --> 00:21:28.000 He can't do that apparently. 00:21:28.880 --> 00:21:36.480 And he's like building towers of his candies and just sitting sitting like a creep, but unintentionally so. 00:21:36.559 --> 00:21:47.680 Uh there's something something really endearing and even a bit relatable about how he just does not give a crap about his looks and and

about how socially awkward he is. 00:21:47.759 --> 00:21:50.319 He just doesn't care how he comes across to people. 00:21:50.400 --> 00:21:57.920 He's really he can come across as almost manipulative, but I don't think he's intending to be that way, but he knows he'll come across that way, and he doesn't care. 00:21:58.079 --> 00:21:59.759 But he he just respects. 00:22:00.319 --> 00:22:04.079 People even if they judge him because he's so weird. 00:22:04.880 --> 00:22:06.640 So he'd be your second favorite. 00:22:06.960 --> 00:22:11.200 He's my second favorite, but I like Ryuke because Ryuk just makes me smile. 00:22:11.279 --> 00:22:11.920 He makes me happy. 00:22:12.079 --> 00:22:12.960 He is so funny. 00:22:13.279 --> 00:22:15.440 And he I love when he gets apples. 00:22:15.680 --> 00:22:17.279 It just makes me happy. 00:22:17.920 --> 00:22:21.680 Ryuke isn't is not just a silly character though. 00:22:22.400 --> 00:22:24.160 He is a bit scary. 00:22:25.039 --> 00:22:27.759 I'd say he's more funny than scary, but but he's a bit scary. 00:22:27.839 --> 00:22:29.119 Like he doesn't mess around. 00:22:29.599 --> 00:22:42.079 And he I want to say he's like the authority in Death Note because he told Light from the beginning that if you if you choose to use this, that means I'm gonna be writing your name into Death Note. 00:22:42.319 --> 00:22:45.440 But Light doesn't even think about that because he's so focused on the now. 00:22:45.839 --> 00:22:47.839 But when your time is up, your time is up. 00:22:48.400 --> 00:22:56.079 So Ryuke never lied to Light, but Light didn't really take his words with much weight. 00:22:57.200 --> 00:23:02.720 And Ryuke, just like in real life, you know, death is death. 00:23:03.039 --> 00:23:06.079 It's not really good or bad, it just is. 00:23:06.880 --> 00:23:09.039 Like I guess you could say death is bad. 00:23:09.359 --> 00:23:15.200 But the person like in charge of when that happens is kind of not really here or there. 00:23:15.279 --> 00:23:17.119 It's not like, oh, I want to kill you. 00:23:17.440 --> 00:23:21.200 You know, he he wasn't like, oh, I want to kill Light. 00:23:21.440 --> 00:23:28.319 If anything, he was maybe showing a bit of mercy to light in the end, because he's like, Yeah, well, you could rot in jail or I could just kill you. 00:23:29.519 --> 00:23:33.200 Um he purely did it for the reason that he didn't want to wait. 00:23:33.440 --> 00:23:33.680 Yeah. 00:23:34.640 --> 00:23:40.240 I think part of him is like, oh, he doesn't he's just bored and he doesn't care. 00:23:40.480 --> 00:23:48.880 But the other part I think is like he has a bit of a soft spot for light and the times they've had together, and it's been really fun. 00:23:49.279 --> 00:23:53.119 But he's like, but at the same time, all things must come to an end. 00:23:53.359 --> 00:23:59.440 So yeah, he does end up being kind of a profound character, even with all the goofy antics and the apple eating. 00:23:59.680 --> 00:24:06.400 Um, he also just has a killer design, I would so wear a Ryu hoodie or whatever, no matter how scary it would look to mom and dad. 00:24:08.000 --> 00:24:12.880 Because they don't know that this guy is actually the best character in the in the show. 00:24:13.119 --> 00:24:14.400 Yes, I love Ryuk. 00:24:14.640 --> 00:24:20.079 Uh shout out to Brian Drummond, who played not just Ryuke, but a bajillion characters in that show. 00:24:20.240 --> 00:24:26.000 We almost started getting tired of hearing his voice every time a bystander opened his mouth and it was Brian again. 00:24:26.079 --> 00:24:29.119 We were like, Brian, they're not paying you enough, my man. 00:24:29.359 --> 00:24:30.400 Yeah, seriously. 00:24:31.839 --> 00:24:36.720 They just cast him as not just additional voices, but all additional voices. 00:24:37.039 --> 00:24:41.839 Literally, they're like, We got we begged this guy just because he can do everyone's voice, you know? 00:24:42.160 --> 00:24:52.160 Yeah, I'm kind of I don't want to say I'm old enough because like this is before my time, but I like watch some like old Sonic cartoons and he even played not maybe not Sonic. 00:24:52.319 --> 00:24:56.720 Was it Sonic or Knuckles that he played in Sonic Underground? 00:24:56.960 --> 00:25:08.079 I don't remember, but he's in he's in shows like that, and he's in lots of like kids' shows who grew up watching like Martha Speaks and Geronimo Stilton, playing just so many characters. 00:25:08.160 --> 00:25:23.839 So hearing him as this like really kind of scary character is so funny if you recognize his voice from Geronimo Stilton, but he's got quite a range, so I do have to give a shout-out to him. 00:25:24.079 --> 00:25:24.880 Also, L. 00:25:25.920 --> 00:25:33.519 I had no idea that his voice actor plays most of the love interests from the Barbie movies I grew up watching. 00:25:33.839 --> 00:25:36.559 I had no idea, but now I can't unhear it. 00:25:36.720 --> 00:25:39.519 It's actually I just didn't think of it. 00:25:39.680 --> 00:25:42.880 But now that I listened to it, I'm like, no, that that's a hundred percent. 00:25:43.039 --> 00:25:45.680 He's not even doing a different voice, that's just him. 00:25:46.000 --> 00:25:50.559 So oh man, those voice actors sure got around back then. 00:25:50.880 --> 00:25:56.000 Alright, least favorite character, and you're gonna give me a whole essay on why Misa sucks. 00:25:56.319 --> 00:26:02.799 No, I won't give you a whole uh essay, but yeah, Misa, I really hate her character. 00:26:02.960 --> 00:26:09.039 Just like those people, like the the people they are and just existing in shows. 00:26:09.200 --> 00:26:09.839 I hate them. 00:26:09.920 --> 00:26:10.799 I hate their guts. 00:26:10.960 --> 00:26:12.880 It's just like ooh, your personality. 00:26:12.960 --> 00:26:16.160 It's like if I was Elle, I would have or no, sorry, not Elle. 00:26:16.240 --> 00:26:16.960 If I was light. 00:26:17.279 --> 00:26:19.519 Elle even liked me, so light hates

me. 00:26:19.920 --> 00:26:22.240 Elle is like, she actually is kind of cute. 00:26:22.640 --> 00:26:24.720 If I was light, I already would have killed her. 00:26:24.880 --> 00:26:26.319 Like, she's so annoying. 00:26:26.559 --> 00:26:31.119 But and then my second least favorite character is um Rem. 00:26:31.359 --> 00:26:32.640 I really hate Rem. 00:26:32.960 --> 00:26:43.119 And I know a lot of people will probably disagree with me on that, but it's like the first person you decide to like care about, though like the only person you decide to care about is my least favorite character. 00:26:43.200 --> 00:26:46.480 So it's like that instantly puts you in the second place position. 00:26:47.200 --> 00:26:48.240 I like Rem. 00:26:48.400 --> 00:26:59.599 I think she's what she's trying to do is no like I don't think that Misa is a good person, but I think her love for Misa is admirable, and she is able to see how disgusting people are. 00:26:59.680 --> 00:27:05.839 Like, she's not like, oh, I think this person is like I this this person's neither here or there for me. 00:27:05.920 --> 00:27:10.160 Like in the Yotsuba group, those businessmen, she's like, no, these people are absolutely disgusting. 00:27:10.559 --> 00:27:16.880 Um, but with Misa, I think she sees her kind of as an innocent child who is being misled, which is kind of true. 00:27:17.759 --> 00:27:42.480 But she's also probably old enough to know better, so it's kind of it's a bit confusing because he comes across as innocent and sweet and naive, despite the fact that she loves Kira and supports what he does and will do whatever he says, in but that's also kind of a way to pay him back for what he did for her, because he like indirectly killed the guy who killed her parents. 00:27:43.119 --> 00:27:44.960 So she feels like she's indebted to him. 00:27:45.119 --> 00:27:46.799 So I do kind of understand that. 00:27:47.359 --> 00:27:52.319 And I understand that Rem would see her as not as bad as some of the other people. 00:27:52.559 --> 00:28:03.599 And if you've been watching her for a long time, like she was, she watched a guy who was watching her before, and then he died, and then she took over, and it's kind of hard not to get attached to somebody who you're watching them live their life. 00:28:03.680 --> 00:28:05.839 It's a bit like a mom and a child or something. 00:28:06.640 --> 00:28:08.160 So no, I don't hate Rem. 00:28:08.480 --> 00:28:11.599 I would hate Misa more than Rem, even though I don't hate Misa either. 00:28:11.759 --> 00:28:16.000 But I also kind of understand because like Misa is kind of a one-dimensional character to me. 00:28:16.240 --> 00:28:27.039 I think she's like a fun character to watch, kind of in the way like where a bad guy has like a sycophant, like a sidekick who is or you know what, that's the wrong word. 00:28:27.519 --> 00:28:33.119 Like like a kiss-up, like an absolute bootligger, you know, like um Dr. 00:28:33.359 --> 00:28:35.440 Stone in the Sonic

movies. 00:28:35.920 --> 00:28:37.279 I kind of I like him. 00:28:37.519 --> 00:28:37.839 I like him. 00:28:38.240 --> 00:28:41.680 Even though he's stupid for staying with Dr. 00:28:41.839 --> 00:28:47.119 Robotnik, who is completely verbally and emotionally abusive and physically abusive. 00:28:47.279 --> 00:28:54.880 And the reason he stays though is because of that pure childlike admiration for his work and for who he is and for his genius. 00:28:55.119 --> 00:29:10.240 And another one like that is like on you haven't seen Iny Yasha yet, but like the little green guy, Jockin, who gets like rescued by Lord Sashomer, and then he follows him everywhere, just like, oh my lord is so beautiful, my lord is the most powerful, anyone who looks at my lord will taste it. 00:29:10.319 --> 00:29:17.599 You know, and and but this guy steps on him and tests his sword on him, and yet he's still like, Oh, my lord is the greatest. 00:29:18.240 --> 00:29:31.920 And we kind of enjoy these characters become shocked when like the guy treats him badly, and then we are like laughing even though we feel bad when he still gets up and follows him in the end. 00:29:32.559 --> 00:29:38.319 Cause it's there is something that's kind of funny or enduring about that, and I sort of see Misa in a similar way. 00:29:38.480 --> 00:29:48.960 Um she's just incredibly stupid for being around light when he clearly has the worst of motivations when it comes to women. 00:29:49.440 --> 00:29:53.279 Oh wow, the women in his life, he treats them really bad. 00:29:53.440 --> 00:29:57.519 Those are the parts where I think what he did to uh oh what's her name? 00:29:57.759 --> 00:29:58.319 I can't remember. 00:29:58.480 --> 00:30:01.039 What he did to that news anchor lady, I forgot her name. 00:30:01.359 --> 00:30:05.680 I think at that point was when my husband was like, Alright, this guy needs to die. 00:30:06.480 --> 00:30:09.839 This is okay, this is a step too far, you know? 00:30:10.319 --> 00:30:13.119 And that was particularly morbid. 00:30:13.200 --> 00:30:15.200 You're just like, oh why? 00:30:15.440 --> 00:30:22.000 You like made her believe that you loved her, and then you like leave her naked in a burning truck. 00:30:22.160 --> 00:30:24.000 It's just horrific. 00:30:24.240 --> 00:30:24.640 Yeah. 00:30:25.119 --> 00:30:26.000 Light sucks. 00:30:26.319 --> 00:30:41.920 I don't think Misa sucks as much, and I think she would maybe be a better she would be a better character if she was more like human instead of like the cliche of being like a a kiss-up and an idol and just idolizing light. 00:30:42.000 --> 00:30:46.480 Like I think she could have more to her than that, but but she's not your least favorite character. 00:30:46.720 --> 00:30:48.160 No, she's not my least favorite character. 00:30:48.319 --> 00:30:58.240 I actually I I said I enjoy her in that way where I enjoy those stupid kiss-up characters, like those really cartoony sidekicks to like villains. 00:30:58.640 -->

00:31:03.039 So I do enjoy her in that respect, but she I think she could definitely be better. 00:31:04.160 --> 00:31:06.799 My least favorite character is Teru Mikami. 00:31:07.839 --> 00:31:09.920 Delete, delete, delete. 00:31:10.319 --> 00:31:24.000 I I've been told I have an excellent memory, and I think the truth is I have an excellent selective memory because like I'll watch a show and I'll be able to like tell people everything that happens in that show, and they'll be like, How do you remember everything? 00:31:24.240 --> 00:31:32.319 And I guess if I really liked the show, I'm remembering so much of it, and I'm like, Oh, it was so good, but then the stuff that wasn't that good was just right out of my brain. 00:31:32.559 --> 00:31:49.920 And then so when we were watching it again, because I watched it with my husband, and then I watched it with you, and I and then Terry Mikami enters the scene, and I'm like, I forgot this man existed, and I rem I know why, it's because he was lame, lame, lame. 00:31:50.079 --> 00:31:51.519 I didn't like him. 00:31:52.160 --> 00:31:55.839 The only thing I like about him is how freaking dramatic he is. 00:31:56.079 --> 00:32:09.039 He is so crazy, like the way he writes on the desk, he's like running from one side of the desk to the other as if he's like writing the name across the entire desk, which doesn't even make sense because the notebook isn't that big. 00:32:09.279 --> 00:32:29.039 And his like stupid obsessive habits of like going to the gym, or when he's like writing all those notes and then he like falls to his knees so dramatically, or even just to the way he like talks, he's like I like it is kind of funny to watch, but that's all he is, like his backstory about being bullied. 00:32:29.200 --> 00:32:40.400 I would say that gives him a better motivation than light, but he it's also like so cliche and boring that everyone watching is like boo, cry about it, we don't care. 00:32:40.799 --> 00:32:47.519 So, like if he was trying, if they were trying to make him sympathetic there, it was just we do not care. 00:32:48.160 --> 00:32:48.880 We do not care. 00:32:49.920 --> 00:32:56.400 So I thought he was like a really weak character who is kind of funny to watch, but he's also not in the show very much. 00:32:56.720 --> 00:33:02.799 I don't know if he's in the manga more, but yeah, when he comes on, I'm kind of like, oh this guy. 00:33:03.039 --> 00:33:07.839 Except for the funny parts with him, but he's pretty boring and sad. 00:33:09.759 --> 00:33:13.839 We have ran out of notes other than final thoughts on the story. 00:33:13.920 --> 00:33:15.839 So I guess this can be like a free-for-all. 00:33:16.160 --> 00:33:17.200 I should have written more notes. 00:33:17.279 --> 00:33:19.599 I thought I wrote more, but final thoughts. 00:33:19.680 --> 00:33:24.799 I mean, I guess we could one character we could talk about is Light's father. 00:33:25.359 --> 00:33:27.119 Yeah, or Mellow. 00:33:27.440 --> 00:33:28.640 Mellow too, I like Mellow. 00:33:28.799 --> 00:33:29.119 Or Nier. 00:33:31.599 --> 00:33:32.720 Nier far. 00:33:33.279 --> 00:33:34.160 Near far. 00:33:34.880 --> 00:33:36.079 Nier is underrated. 00:33:36.160 --> 00:33:37.680 He's a really good character, I think. 00:33:38.319 --> 00:33:40.400 People who hate him are just mad that L died. 00:33:41.039 --> 00:33:42.799 You guys are diehards, grow up. 00:33:43.039 --> 00:33:52.400 I love L too, and I was really sad when he died because I surprisingly I grew up without really knowing much about Death Note, even though it was so popular. 00:33:52.480 --> 00:33:56.799 So when I actually watched it, I didn't really know anything about it other than the memes. 00:33:57.200 --> 00:34:03.599 So I didn't know L was gonna die, and I really didn't think he would, and so I was pretty heartbroken when that happened. 00:34:03.920 --> 00:34:10.480 I saw it coming, I knew it was gonna happen, and I was sad when it happened, but I was I was like, all good things come to an end. 00:34:10.800 --> 00:34:12.239 At least Nier didn't die. 00:34:12.480 --> 00:34:17.679 Yeah, Nier was I feel like he was even smarter than El, but like he had a lot more to work on. 00:34:18.320 --> 00:34:25.039 Well, he's so young, but he had what Elle did as a L set the stage for him to come in. 00:34:25.119 --> 00:34:28.000 So Nier wasn't working with nothing like El was. 00:34:28.400 --> 00:34:36.719 So that's a huge advantage that Nier has, not to underestimate Nier, but he is a child and he did have a lot more to work with, thankfully. 00:34:36.880 --> 00:34:41.920 So and I'm not saying that's a like I'm not saying that to be like, oh, he sucks. 00:34:42.079 --> 00:34:44.320 No, it's just to be fair. 00:34:44.639 --> 00:34:50.800 So L probably is smarter than Nier just because he was working with nothing and Nier was not. 00:34:51.119 --> 00:34:52.559 I guess we don't know for sure. 00:34:52.880 --> 00:34:57.679 Yeah, but at the same time, that doesn't mean you still have to give Nier credit for coming to this. 00:34:58.000 --> 00:35:03.679 Yeah, I will say Nier, I found I found took way more action than L. 00:35:04.719 --> 00:35:09.599 He started attacking like Nier just started like, let's do this, let's do this, let's do this. 00:35:10.079 --> 00:35:11.519 He's just like straight to the point. 00:35:11.840 --> 00:35:14.400 Elle kept like pussy footing around, yeah. 00:35:14.639 --> 00:35:25.119 And then he's like, he put he knows it's slight, and he knows it's Misa, and he locks him up, but he can't prove it, and he can't keep them locked up forever, so he lets them go. 00:35:25.280 --> 00:35:34.159 But you're right, Mir is taking action with his team, whereas El is more like, ah, he's doing like a whole bunch of tests, you know. 00:35:34.400 --> 00:35:39.840 So they do have a different way of going about things, and perhaps Nier's method is more effective. 00:35:39.920 --> 00:35:40.719 You're right. 00:35:40.960 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00:35:41.119 Okay. 00:35:41.599 --> 00:35:45.760 Nier's method was more effective, and he was his personality is much more unforgiving. 00:35:45.840 --> 00:35:48.480 Like he's just like, we're doing this and deal with it, kind of thing. 00:35:48.559 --> 00:35:50.480 Like he's yeah, you know what? 00:35:50.960 --> 00:35:53.679 Elle has more sympathy for others, yeah. 00:35:53.840 --> 00:35:55.599 And Nier has less. 00:35:55.920 --> 00:35:57.599 Nir's very respectful, he doesn't have none. 00:35:59.199 --> 00:36:01.119 He doesn't have none, but he's like, that's just the way it is. 00:36:01.360 --> 00:36:02.320 Yeah, we're getting this done. 00:36:02.400 --> 00:36:08.079 He's like Yeah, and he's a child too, so that's what's really striking about him. 00:36:08.320 --> 00:36:21.760 He's a child, but nobody treats him totally like a child because of the way he speaks and that presence he carries is just so yeah, it's straight to the point, unforgiving, he knows what's going on, and you don't. 00:36:22.000 --> 00:36:34.880 Not in a way where you're he's condescending towards you, but you quickly realize that this guy is smarter than you, even if he is a child, so he he just needs you to accompany him to the airport and buy him toys. 00:36:34.960 --> 00:36:42.480 And and I like that it wasn't like a cringy sort of way, it's like, oh, he's a kid, so he like throws tantrums or something. 00:36:42.880 --> 00:36:45.360 Well, that was another thing about the symbolic side of things. 00:36:45.519 --> 00:36:57.360 Like Nier likes to play with toys as he's as you're as he's talking about his analogies and like talking about how he's gonna catch them or what their next step is, they're he's fiddling with the toys or whatnot. 00:36:57.440 --> 00:37:04.159 And then when L is doing the same thing, he's fiddling around with the candy or he's eating chocolates or something like that. 00:37:05.119 --> 00:37:23.360 I feel like it's a little symbolic, as in like that's how they operate, like they do this while thinking, and it's like Well, I think that orphanage, Watari's orphanage where they kind of raise up detectives, must be like a detective school for highly autistic children. 00:37:23.599 --> 00:37:27.679 Because look at them all, none of them are normal. 00:37:28.800 --> 00:37:32.559 Um that is not to say, yeah, Mello, what the heck? 00:37:32.800 --> 00:37:36.559 Like, he looks like a pirate, like a gothic Lolita pirate, dude. 00:37:36.800 --> 00:37:37.360 Something like that. 00:37:37.599 --> 00:37:44.000 Um, not to be mean or anything, because like I think all these characters are really cool, but they're not your average people. 00:37:44.239 --> 00:37:44.719 Nope. 00:37:45.039 --> 00:37:57.760 Um, and I don't know exactly why that is, or or if you have to be autistic to be at that or finish, but I like that Nir is a child. 00:37:58.239 --> 00:38:01.039 They don't like make it so that he's basically an adult. 00:38:02.079 --> 00:38:04.800 He is as intelligent

as an adult. 00:38:05.360 --> 00:38:10.719 But since he is a child, he's still like he never you never see him without a toy in his hand. 00:38:11.440 --> 00:38:24.480 And you see him like decorating a Christmas tree, building uh a railroad, and yes, he uses them as like sort of like set pieces to illustrate his theories, but he also I think just enjoys playing with toys. 00:38:24.639 --> 00:38:29.360 Like on in the airplane, he's like, Okay, you take the robot and I'll take the teddy bear or whatever, right? 00:38:29.440 --> 00:38:40.480 Like, and it's all like you don't hear him say this, so it's like this unspoken thing, but everyone acknowledges that he is in fact a child, they respect him, but they also respect that he's a child, and I love that so much. 00:38:40.719 --> 00:38:42.639 And even he knows that he's a child. 00:38:42.800 --> 00:38:48.800 I think he's a tiny bit embarrassed about it, like when he's like, Well, you I can't go to the airport by myself. 00:38:49.760 --> 00:38:53.280 He's a little embarrassed about it, but he's also like, Well, that's just the way it is. 00:38:53.360 --> 00:38:55.760 I am a child, and that's how society works. 00:38:55.920 --> 00:39:00.000 So oh, and then by the way, how does Melon not gain weight by all the chocolate he's eating? 00:39:00.239 --> 00:39:01.280 Because it's dark chocolate. 00:39:01.440 --> 00:39:03.679 It could that's a good point, but I feel like it might not be. 00:39:04.079 --> 00:39:05.679 No, I think I think it's dark chocolate. 00:39:05.840 --> 00:39:06.000 Okay. 00:39:06.239 --> 00:39:06.960 Some people love that. 00:39:07.440 --> 00:39:08.239 Well, then that just makes sense. 00:39:08.400 --> 00:39:09.840 And that's actually really good. 00:39:10.079 --> 00:39:12.880 That's actually really good for your heart, dark chocolate. 00:39:13.760 --> 00:39:15.840 But not that it saved him in the end. 00:39:16.320 --> 00:39:19.119 Enough dark chocolate to save me from the death note. 00:39:19.519 --> 00:39:21.119 He died in an honorable way. 00:39:21.440 --> 00:39:25.119 Surprisingly, I okay, so here's another thing, selective memory. 00:39:25.280 --> 00:39:34.400 Mellow isn't in the series as much, so when I watched it the first time, I sort of I thought that Melo was bad, and then we I watched it with you, and I'm like, did I miss something? 00:39:35.840 --> 00:39:47.679 He was actually not a great guy, but like no, but he was trying to stop Kira, and he was willing to die to do that, and that makes him uh miles, miles more sympathetic than a lot of the other characters. 00:39:48.320 --> 00:39:52.880 Like, like he was willing to die to to stop Kira. 00:39:53.599 --> 00:39:56.079 And look at Kira, look at Light. 00:39:56.719 --> 00:40:00.159 He sacrificed everyone and everything. 00:40:00.320 --> 00:40:03.199 He will he will sacrifice anyone but himself. 00:40:03.519 --> 00:40:05.920 He never puts himself at risk, ever. 00:40:06.880 --> 00:40:09.760 So that's part of why he's so pathetic. 00:40:09.840 --> 00:40:18.719 Because there are villains who are evil and yet they have they have the strength and the selflessness to put themselves on the line to achieve what they believe is right. 00:40:19.519 --> 00:40:22.320 This guy does not, he's an absolute wussy. 00:40:22.480 --> 00:40:29.360 So in the end, when he is caught, he's just flailing around like Mesa, anyone, someone help me. 00:40:29.440 --> 00:40:41.039 And I'm just and it's just like this is what you were the whole time hiding behind that persona, hiding behind that persona and sending everyone else to die for you. 00:40:41.360 --> 00:40:43.840 This, but and you're it's like, oh, you're so scary. 00:40:44.000 --> 00:40:45.039 This guy is like God. 00:40:45.199 --> 00:40:50.159 No, he's just a pathetic individual, just disgusting and selfish. 00:40:50.239 --> 00:40:50.880 That's all. 00:40:51.119 --> 00:40:56.480 And it's so satisfying for that to really be confirmed and laid before everyone's eyes in the end. 00:40:56.719 --> 00:40:59.519 Take away all the powers, and you're just an open show. 00:41:00.000 --> 00:41:02.159 I know guys are with none of that worth 10 of you. 00:41:02.880 --> 00:41:03.519 Something like that. 00:41:04.239 --> 00:41:06.880 Stealing lines from Avengers now, are we? 00:41:07.280 --> 00:41:12.400 But um it just reminded me that standoff between Captain America and Iron Man. 00:41:12.480 --> 00:41:14.800 He's like, without take the suit off, and what are you? 00:41:14.880 --> 00:41:18.000 He's like, Oh, I'm I'm a genius, billionaire, playboy, philanthropist. 00:41:18.159 --> 00:41:21.039 And he's like, I I know guys with none of that worth 10 of you. 00:41:21.679 --> 00:41:24.960 But I guess Tony Stark is not light, though. 00:41:25.039 --> 00:41:26.639 He's still not as bad as light. 00:41:26.800 --> 00:41:27.519 Oh man. 00:41:27.840 --> 00:41:29.039 I personally love Iron Man. 00:41:29.360 --> 00:41:30.079 Oh, oh, I like him. 00:41:30.880 --> 00:41:32.880 I like him, and he grows as a character. 00:41:33.039 --> 00:41:35.920 I'm saying he's he's not light. 00:41:36.079 --> 00:41:38.559 Like, imagine Captain America talking to Light Young. 00:41:38.960 --> 00:41:40.719 Oh, that'll be we gotta make those. 00:41:41.119 --> 00:41:42.320 You'd just be like, you know what? 00:41:42.480 --> 00:41:42.880 Just die. 00:41:43.440 --> 00:41:44.400 Yep, seriously. 00:41:45.039 --> 00:41:46.719 Shut up, Joe, die. 00:41:46.880 --> 00:41:48.000 Just stop breathing. 00:41:49.519 --> 00:41:51.360 And now I'm bringing Medea into this. 00:41:51.440 --> 00:41:51.679 Why? 00:41:51.840 --> 00:41:52.239 Oh, okay. 00:41:52.559 --> 00:41:59.199 But I guess I do watch too many movies, or my memory is just too my selective memory is just too good for specific lines. 00:41:59.440 --> 00:42:03.039 So I remember all these things and scare people because they're like, when did you last see them? 00:42:03.280 --> 00:42:04.719 Like, oh, that must have been years ago.

00:42:05.519 --> 00:42:11.920 I I actually am similar that way because that we'll be talking about something and I'll pull a line from a different movie and they'll be like, Well, hold up. 00:42:12.000 --> 00:42:12.800 What are we talking about? 00:42:12.880 --> 00:42:14.159 I'm like, oh, sorry. 00:42:14.480 --> 00:42:23.440 I think some families just do that because my husband's family is like scared and they think that's weird, and then us we're just like we've always done that though. 00:42:23.679 --> 00:42:27.920 Yeah, our household just like half our dialogue are just quotes from different things. 00:42:28.079 --> 00:42:31.119 Does that mean all of us are like borderline autistic? 00:42:31.840 --> 00:42:34.480 I feel like we just love we have a passion for movies. 00:42:34.880 --> 00:42:42.079 I think we were just so isolated, or maybe we just maybe some people are just more inclined to remember stuff that they care about. 00:42:42.239 --> 00:42:48.239 So we just really care about stories, maybe more than the average person who kind of like zones out when they watch TV. 00:42:48.320 --> 00:42:50.559 But for us, we're like TV is like the highlight of the day. 00:42:50.719 --> 00:42:54.320 We're like, oh heck yeah, we're gonna watch the crap out of this thing. 00:42:55.119 --> 00:42:55.360 Right. 00:42:56.000 --> 00:42:59.440 We watched like Madagascar from 2005 on rotation. 00:42:59.679 --> 00:43:03.280 I could have I could have quoted that entire movie at one point. 00:43:03.519 --> 00:43:05.599 Yeah, that's like with me with Tintin. 00:43:05.760 --> 00:43:09.039 When I was sick, I once watched that five times in one day. 00:43:09.199 --> 00:43:12.400 I could probably quote the whole movie roughly exactly. 00:43:13.199 --> 00:43:21.519 But we are actually getting close to the end of the time, and we haven't really rated Death Note, have we? 00:43:22.079 --> 00:43:28.480 I just wanted to say, I wanted to acknowledge how culturally how much of a cultural impact Death Note has had. 00:43:28.719 --> 00:43:35.840 Um long before I ever saw it, Death Note, I like there were so many Death Note references that I knew of. 00:43:36.159 --> 00:43:37.280 It's been a staple for me. 00:43:37.760 --> 00:43:38.480 Like the memes. 00:43:38.559 --> 00:43:40.800 There's just so many memes. 00:43:41.119 --> 00:43:50.639 Like, even people who haven't seen Death Note, they kind of vaguely may have heard of a notebook where you write someone's name in it and then they just or like the I've won. 00:43:51.519 --> 00:43:59.199 Or even like the Death Note music, like the like the Latin, like funeral sounding music that plays. 00:44:00.159 --> 00:44:13.280 The really dramatic music that plays when they start thinking like and like you know, people have been using that for a long time, and we just kind of got used to it without even knowing where it came from. 00:44:13.360 --> 00:44:17.199 And now I'm watching the show and I'm like, hey, I've heard this before. 00:44:17.679 --> 00:44:18.480 Exactly. 00:44:18.719 --> 00:44:23.199 And it's and it's awesome, it's great to finally be in on the joke. 00:44:23.679 --> 00:44:25.679 Sorry it took me so long, fellas. 00:44:25.920 --> 00:44:26.559 Same with me. 00:44:26.639 --> 00:44:36.320 Uh like now that I watched it, I get everything that our older brother, or your older brother, and my younger brother, he was like, You haven't seen Death Note? 00:44:36.480 --> 00:44:40.880 When we watched it and we were talking about it, and he was like, Wait, you didn't see it before now? 00:44:41.920 --> 00:44:42.719 I guess you wouldn't be surprised. 00:44:43.039 --> 00:44:45.280 He was like, How did you because he knows I watch anime? 00:44:45.440 --> 00:44:48.719 Like I'd always heard of it, but I didn't really know if I was interested or not. 00:44:48.800 --> 00:44:51.599 Because like I'd only heard like tiny little things about it. 00:44:51.760 --> 00:44:57.280 So and I guess it was when it came out, I was like pretty young, so I didn't watch it at that time. 00:44:57.360 --> 00:45:09.440 But so yeah, for me, I wanna say Death Note's gotta be like an eight or nine out of ten, because just the re-watchability of this thing, the entertainment value is so high. 00:45:10.159 --> 00:45:14.079 Like, after you watch it, you'll think about it a lot, and it's just super fun. 00:45:14.800 --> 00:45:15.840 It's so fun, yeah. 00:45:16.000 --> 00:45:20.159 Like, it's got more to it than just fun, but I do find that it's just very entertaining. 00:45:20.239 --> 00:45:24.079 The character dynamics are really funny, even just the back and forth. 00:45:24.159 --> 00:45:28.159 Okay, one thing I will say Death Note would not work without the inner monologues. 00:45:28.480 --> 00:45:30.960 You would have these scenes with like no dialogue. 00:45:31.199 --> 00:45:32.079 Yeah, it would be boring. 00:45:32.480 --> 00:45:35.119 People just sitting there and making faces. 00:45:35.440 --> 00:45:45.599 But the super dramatic inner monologue is part of why it's so funny, because you kind of want that to see how crazy how like how they can out crazy each other. 00:45:45.840 --> 00:45:54.079 Like each each um monologue becomes more and more intense and and like outlandish. 00:45:54.159 --> 00:45:57.440 You're like, yeah, that's a reach, but they might be right, you know. 00:45:57.599 --> 00:46:00.159 So it's it's really funny to watch. 00:46:00.239 --> 00:46:03.440 If you don't have any context, I think you'd be like, What the heck is this? 00:46:03.760 --> 00:46:08.320 But with context, it's sort of like Sherlock on steroids or something. 00:46:08.639 --> 00:46:09.519 Basically, yeah. 00:46:09.679 --> 00:46:10.000 Yeah. 00:46:10.880 --> 00:46:18.800 For me, uh yeah, just the pacing, uh, the whole story itself, easily like it's an easily an eight for me. 00:46:18.960 --> 00:46:22.639 I wouldn't quite put it at a nine, because we're gonna do many other shows. 00:46:22.800 --> 00:46:26.159 I'll try

to keep my standards kind of high, but this is this is an eight for sure. 00:46:26.320 --> 00:46:28.159 It's going strong on eight. 00:46:28.480 --> 00:46:34.159 Character-wise, like I'll say like light gets an eight out of ten as a character. 00:46:34.480 --> 00:46:37.519 L gets like an eight, like, yeah, super well written. 00:46:37.760 --> 00:46:40.960 I wanna say it's a ten out of ten for just being so iconic. 00:46:41.119 --> 00:46:42.639 Like, Death Note is iconic. 00:46:43.039 --> 00:46:44.480 Iconic-wise, it's a ten out of ten. 00:46:44.719 --> 00:46:51.280 Yeah, so as far as like like visually and like it's staying power in the culture, Death Note is a ten out of ten. 00:46:51.760 --> 00:47:00.480 But like story-wise, I'm gonna say it's at least an eight because like it's not perfect, but it is it's quite good, and it's super entertaining. 00:47:00.639 --> 00:47:07.440 You cannot deny the entertaining factor, and it's like super kind of unnecessarily complicated, but in a very fun way. 00:47:07.679 --> 00:47:26.880 So I know there are YouTube uh what do you call it, like character analysis videos where they're like Elle should have caught Kira way faster or something, or Kira should have been caught way faster, and maybe that's true, but I still feel like we're overestimating ourselves quite a bit if we think we could catch Kira that fast. 00:47:27.199 --> 00:47:32.800 But at the same time, like, yeah, there are some parts of the show that are probably like dumb, you know, we're like, why did you do that? 00:47:32.880 --> 00:47:45.360 You know, but it's always satisfying to see Light, you know, start to get more and more dumb and more and more cocky because just speedrunning his own downfall, and I'm always happy to watch that over and over and over again. 00:47:45.519 --> 00:47:47.519 That's the most iconic. 00:47:47.599 --> 00:47:53.039 Um I don't want to say like death scene, but like just the downfall of a villain. 00:47:53.280 --> 00:47:58.079 Light's downfall is like the best, best I've ever seen. 00:47:58.159 --> 00:47:59.280 It's so satisfying. 00:47:59.440 --> 00:48:01.360 You just like relish in his suffering. 00:48:01.599 --> 00:48:04.320 You're just like, yeah, yeah. 00:48:04.800 --> 00:48:07.280 I was so happy when that happened. 00:48:07.360 --> 00:48:10.320 I was just sending messages to everyone, like, light's dead. 00:48:10.639 --> 00:48:14.320 I was satisfied too, but but it was like it's the end of an era. 00:48:14.800 --> 00:48:20.239 It's you do feel sad because then the show is over, and you're kind of like, oh, then there's no more show, and that's sad. 00:48:20.400 --> 00:48:22.960 I I have not seen the movie that follows it. 00:48:24.320 --> 00:48:26.159 Oh, wait, no, you're talking about the animated movie. 00:48:26.320 --> 00:48:30.639 No, not the Netflix bullcraft, no. 00:48:30.880 --> 00:48:35.519 I mean the I think there's actually an animated movie set in universe. 00:48:36.000 --> 00:48:37.119 And I know we should watch it. 00:48:37.280 --> 00:48:37.840 Yeah, we should. 00:48:38.000 --> 00:48:41.119 I don't know if it changes anything, but we could at least watch it. 00:48:41.280 --> 00:48:43.920 I've heard monologues and stuff like that. 00:48:44.239 --> 00:48:49.519 I've heard that light might be a Shinigami in it or something because the person who used the Death Note can't go to heaven or hell. 00:48:49.840 --> 00:48:54.960 Even if he deserves to go to hell, I don't be curious to see it. 00:48:55.920 --> 00:48:58.960 So, anyways, thank you so much for listening. 00:48:59.280 --> 00:49:09.280 Next month, or maybe within this month, sorry we skipped a month, but uh within this month or next month, we'll probably be doing an episode on the series Alf. 00:49:09.599 --> 00:49:14.079 It's a sitcom we've just really been enjoying watching on Saturday mornings over breakfast. 00:49:15.519 --> 00:49:22.480 It'll be a different kind of discussion because it's more self-contained, but we're ready to try it. 00:49:22.719 --> 00:49:27.679 And uh anything else you want to say before we pull the plug? 00:49:28.320 --> 00:49:33.119 Not really, other than uh this world is made of Love and Peace. 00:49:33.280 --> 00:49:34.320 That was our try again. 00:49:34.639 --> 00:49:36.239 Are we just like stealing that for other people? 00:49:36.400 --> 00:49:38.079 I guess we'll just steal it for most of them. 00:49:38.159 --> 00:49:38.719 Well, no, no, no. 00:49:38.960 --> 00:49:41.360 Until the author sues us. 00:49:42.159 --> 00:49:42.960 We could do that. 00:49:43.039 --> 00:49:44.960 Or we could do it with Death Note style. 00:49:45.039 --> 00:49:47.360 How how how would we end it Death Note style? 00:49:47.599 --> 00:49:48.639 Well, it's been fun. 00:49:49.599 --> 00:49:50.639 Writes the tail trailer. 00:49:50.880 --> 00:49:52.400 Oh, you mean that's that's what Ryuk said. 00:49:52.639 --> 00:49:52.960 Yeah, yeah. 00:49:53.679 --> 00:49:55.519 Well, yeah, that way it works. 00:49:55.679 --> 00:49:58.000 Or we could end it by saying, I've won. 00:50:00.559 --> 00:50:02.960 Uh, I can't think of anything good. 00:50:03.280 --> 00:50:05.119 But we will see you in the next one. 00:50:05.440 --> 00:50:05.840 Cheers.