Transkrip penuh untuk Too Stupid to be True - Episode 158 - The Padded Cell Podcast

it. 00:02:17.039 --> 00:02:17.919 There we go. 00:02:18.319 --> 00:02:18.960 There you go. 00:02:19.039 --> 00:02:21.360 It's all very broke back mountain. 00:02:21.599 --> 00:02:22.159 Lovely. 00:02:22.400 --> 00:02:23.919 Yeah, you look fabulous. 00:02:24.080 --> 00:02:24.639 I love it. 00:02:24.800 --> 00:02:25.360 Love it. 00:02:25.520 --> 00:02:27.759 Well, welcome back once again. 00:02:28.000 --> 00:02:32.479 It's gonna be at um, I think our episode is just gonna be hat modelling going forward. 00:02:33.360 --> 00:02:36.639 Now that you've had the coups from the masses, have you liked it in the house? 00:02:36.800 --> 00:02:38.719 I know, God, the feedback that we got from that. 00:02:38.960 --> 00:02:40.479 Yeah, have you loved you in the right red hat? 00:02:41.199 --> 00:02:41.759 Loved it. 00:02:41.919 --> 00:02:42.800 Honestly, yeah. 00:02:42.960 --> 00:02:45.599 Well, it's here whenever you want it, but you're not taking it with you. 00:02:45.759 --> 00:02:48.000 Well, I'm not wearing an Easter bonnet, right? 00:02:48.800 --> 00:02:49.439 Damn. 00:02:50.479 --> 00:02:52.000 Damn, ma'am, damn. 00:02:53.120 --> 00:02:55.280 I think you start calling you ma'am now, though. 00:02:55.520 --> 00:02:56.879 With the accent then, ma'am. 00:02:56.960 --> 00:02:58.800 Ma'am, ma'am, ma'am, howdy, ma'am. 00:02:58.879 --> 00:02:59.680 Howdy, ma'am. 00:02:59.840 --> 00:03:00.960 How you doing? 00:03:01.199 --> 00:03:02.479 That was very joey. 00:03:02.639 --> 00:03:05.360 So you went from um south to New York. 00:03:06.400 --> 00:03:07.680 How you doing? 00:03:09.840 --> 00:03:10.960 Maybe we should not have to ask. 00:03:11.280 --> 00:03:12.800 How y'all, y'all okay? 00:03:16.240 --> 00:03:18.159 I apologize, I apologize. 00:03:18.240 --> 00:03:18.639 It's awful. 00:03:19.199 --> 00:03:21.759 Half the fans are laughing, half are cringing. 00:03:24.000 --> 00:03:25.599 Right, let's crack on, eh? 00:03:25.840 --> 00:03:26.400 Let's crack on. 00:03:26.560 --> 00:03:27.759 We've got loads to do today. 00:03:27.919 --> 00:03:30.800 You might have noticed how Kev hasn't got glasses on today, he's forgotten. 00:03:30.960 --> 00:03:32.400 I forgot them, I was driving blind. 00:03:32.560 --> 00:03:34.879 I can't believe you drove down here. 00:03:35.039 --> 00:03:36.159 I know, but it took 10 minutes. 00:03:36.319 --> 00:03:37.840 I'm in the car and I'm 10 minutes in. 00:03:37.919 --> 00:03:39.680 I'm going, why is everything a bit blurry? 00:03:40.000 --> 00:03:41.840 Oh shit, I haven't got my glasses on. 00:03:42.800 --> 00:03:44.560 I'm gonna be really late if I turn back now. 00:03:44.639 --> 00:03:44.800 Yeah. 00:03:44.960 --> 00:03:45.759 So fuck it. 00:03:46.560 --> 00:03:51.280 So um Kev's not doing a segment today because he can't really see the hands in front of his face. 00:03:54.560 --> 00:03:55.759 Don't just throw me off. 00:03:55.919 --> 00:03:56.479 Oh dear. 00:03:56.560 --> 00:03:59.520 So I'm going to do um most of the talking, please, Divin. 00:03:59.919 --> 00:04:00.800 Just sit and look at me. 00:04:00.960 --> 00:04:04.159 Yeah, use look at Kev and I'll do all the work, it's fine. 00:04:04.800 --> 00:04:07.599 So this episode's going out on the 12th of November. 00:04:07.680 --> 00:04:09.520 This year has sped along. 00:04:09.599 --> 00:04:10.800 I just don't know how we're here. 00:04:11.280 --> 00:04:12.240 Um, and you know what? 00:04:12.319 --> 00:04:15.039 It was one of those days, there was all sorts going on. 00:04:15.120 --> 00:04:17.279 I was like, oh, which ones am I gonna pick? 00:04:17.519 --> 00:04:22.240 Um, one was uh Charlie Manson was born on the 12th of November. 00:04:22.399 --> 00:04:26.160 And there's loads of things that we can we can talk about that, but a lot of you know about them. 00:04:26.319 --> 00:04:29.920 So the things I've chosen are very padded to sell. 00:04:30.399 --> 00:04:36.399 Oh, because there was loads, but these are a little bit a bit out there, a bit out there. 00:04:36.879 --> 00:04:41.120 So 12th of November 1970. 00:04:44.160 --> 00:04:46.879 Before I say that, mate, I've got a question for you. 00:04:47.120 --> 00:05:00.160 Imagine you're working, let's say, for the local council, you're having a normal day until the phone goes, and you put your T down, you pick up the phone, I think it's just gonna be saying, get the kettle on, mate, I'm on my way back in. 00:05:00.399 --> 00:05:10.399 No, the person at the other end of the phone says there's an eight-ton dead whale on New Brighton Beach, and it needs to be moved, and it's down to you. 00:05:10.560 --> 00:05:12.720 It absolutely stinks, it's enormous. 00:05:12.879 --> 00:05:14.480 What are you gonna do about it? 00:05:15.839 --> 00:05:17.839 Say, sorry, you're breaking up. 00:05:24.560 --> 00:05:26.560 I think that is the perfect answer. 00:05:26.720 --> 00:05:29.519 Yeah, just scrap that segment, shall we? 00:05:30.560 --> 00:05:30.959 Brilliant. 00:05:31.920 --> 00:05:32.079 What? 00:05:32.160 --> 00:05:32.319 What? 00:05:33.199 --> 00:05:40.720 Sorry, uh uh but no, if you have an eight-ton dead whale on New Brighton Beach, what would you do to remove it? 00:05:40.800 --> 00:05:42.800 And it's 1970, so we haven't got as much. 00:05:43.120 --> 00:05:43.519 1970. 00:05:43.600 --> 00:05:45.120 Well, you've probably got to inform the police. 00:05:45.360 --> 00:05:46.240 Yeah, how'd you move it? 00:05:46.399 --> 00:05:47.279 Because they're probably protected. 00:05:47.519 --> 00:05:48.319 How'd you move it then? 00:05:48.480 --> 00:05:49.120 What'd you do? 00:05:49.439 --> 00:05:50.720 How'd you move it? 00:05:52.079 --> 00:05:54.800 Oh, you need a JCB at least in a crane. 00:05:57.439 --> 00:05:58.000 Yeah. 00:05:59.519 --> 00:06:00.399 I don't know. 00:06:00.639 --> 00:06:02.160 That's that's what I would assume. 00:06:02.480 --> 00:06:04.160 I would have said lift it. 00:06:04.319 --> 00:06:04.560 Yeah. 00:06:05.120 --> 00:06:08.240 Or drag it back into the sea and let it

Yes. 00:06:08.959 --> 00:06:13.759 So you could, I was thinking, you could bury it. 00:06:14.319 --> 00:06:14.879 Maybe. 00:06:19.759 --> 00:06:20.160 Sorry. 00:06:20.399 --> 00:06:23.040 You just sit and be quiet because people are looking at you, okay? 00:06:23.279 --> 00:06:23.360 Yeah. 00:06:23.519 --> 00:06:24.800 You're looking at me, aren't you? 00:06:25.920 --> 00:06:30.160 Anyway, they could bury it, they could cut it up and dispose of it somehow. 00:06:30.399 --> 00:06:33.040 They could maybe drag it back out to sea. 00:06:33.920 --> 00:06:43.600 But on the 12th of November 1970, this very, very thing happened in Oregon in America. 00:06:44.399 --> 00:06:51.360 This massive fucking whale washed up um in Florence, which is a small coastal town in Oregon. 00:06:51.519 --> 00:06:55.279 Um, it's a big sperm whale, around 45 foot long. 00:06:55.439 --> 00:06:55.920 Wow. 00:06:56.160 --> 00:06:57.920 Weighing around eight tons. 00:06:58.319 --> 00:06:59.759 Did you say Oregon, ma'am? 00:07:00.000 --> 00:07:00.720 Oregon. 00:07:00.879 --> 00:07:01.120 Yeah. 00:07:01.360 --> 00:07:02.399 In Oregon? 00:07:02.959 --> 00:07:04.480 Sorry, I'll stop now. 00:07:04.720 --> 00:07:05.920 No, you won't, though, will you? 00:07:06.160 --> 00:07:06.879 No, I won't. 00:07:10.079 --> 00:07:16.800 So anyway, I mean if you think about a dead whale, it's not just the size of it that's the problem. 00:07:17.120 --> 00:07:18.800 Because they're like full of blubber. 00:07:19.120 --> 00:07:22.319 There's like the decomposition happens quite quickly and they stink. 00:07:23.439 --> 00:07:27.519 And also, um, there's a bird with gas in their guts. 00:07:27.759 --> 00:07:30.800 So if they don't address that, it could explode. 00:07:30.959 --> 00:07:31.199 Oh. 00:07:31.680 --> 00:07:36.879 And an eight-ton whale exploding on our beach outside, it hit the windows. 00:07:36.959 --> 00:07:38.560 You know, it wouldn't be good, would it? 00:07:38.720 --> 00:07:39.120 You know? 00:07:39.360 --> 00:07:42.560 So you've got this problem of this decomposing uh whale. 00:07:42.800 --> 00:07:47.120 So they can't even use the the blubber and everything in the way that they used to. 00:07:47.360 --> 00:07:49.920 Yeah, you probably could do because it's dead anyway. 00:07:50.079 --> 00:07:52.240 Um, but you know, still, how do you deal with it? 00:07:52.399 --> 00:07:54.560 You just cut bits off when you want it, like you know, yeah. 00:07:54.720 --> 00:07:58.720 You still gotta put it somewhere, it's on a public beach in this small town. 00:07:58.959 --> 00:08:03.759 Obviously, people were gonna be coming along taking photos of it and everything, but you can't keep it there forever. 00:08:03.920 --> 00:08:06.000 It's a big gigantic problem, innit? 00:08:06.240 --> 00:08:07.279 At the end of the day. 00:08:07.600 --> 00:08:09.680 So, what did they do? 00:08:10.319 --> 00:08:14.319 Officials decided that dynamite was the answer. 00:08:14.560 --> 00:08:18.879 Oh god, dynamite, folks.

00:08:19.759 --> 00:08:29.519 Thinking that if they blew the whale into small enough pieces of seagulls and other scavengers would eat the remains and the sea would maybe you know wash the rest away. 00:08:29.759 --> 00:08:39.279 I can sort of I can see where they came to that, but I don't see how they didn't swiftly move on from that in their list of ideas. 00:08:39.519 --> 00:08:40.240 I mean the mess. 00:08:40.879 --> 00:08:41.600 Yes, Kev. 00:08:41.919 --> 00:08:46.000 They're also assuming that this thing would explode evenly into little bits. 00:08:46.240 --> 00:08:50.240 No, you know, tidily on the beach and all that kind of thing. 00:08:50.480 --> 00:08:52.240 No, lovely theory. 00:08:53.120 --> 00:08:57.759 So they weren't also they weren't planned to use just a little bit of dynamite. 00:08:59.039 --> 00:09:04.879 Twenty cases, which was half a ton of explosives. 00:09:07.440 --> 00:09:08.000 Yeah. 00:09:08.960 --> 00:09:17.039 Nobody asked the question, what would happen if you designated a half a ton of explosive inside a whale? 00:09:17.200 --> 00:09:18.480 Nobody, nobody thought. 00:09:18.559 --> 00:09:21.360 They just said, good idea that Anna, a bit of an explosion. 00:09:21.600 --> 00:09:22.639 Who's gonna put it in there? 00:09:22.879 --> 00:09:24.000 Well, somebody would have, wasn't there? 00:09:24.159 --> 00:09:25.279 Some of the paper. 00:09:25.759 --> 00:09:27.440 It's like how far in do they put it? 00:09:27.679 --> 00:09:30.559 Well, they probably would have light fingered it down the pole and all that, wouldn't they? 00:09:30.799 --> 00:09:31.120 Oh. 00:09:31.519 --> 00:09:32.240 I don't know. 00:09:32.720 --> 00:09:38.399 Anyway, so the man in charge of the operation was an engineer, George Thornton. 00:09:39.039 --> 00:09:43.360 And the television reporter there, Paul Lindman from KATU News. 00:09:43.519 --> 00:09:46.559 He was there to record the whole thing, he'd been invited along. 00:09:46.879 --> 00:09:48.080 He was delighted. 00:09:48.240 --> 00:09:51.360 You know, never ever have they had this thing, and they'd probably never have it again. 00:09:51.440 --> 00:09:53.840 And he's thinking this is gonna make great TV. 00:09:54.799 --> 00:09:57.279 The TV footage still exists, folks. 00:09:57.759 --> 00:09:59.039 Please go and watch it. 00:09:59.360 --> 00:09:59.840 Oh god. 00:10:00.720 --> 00:10:02.000 It's magnificent. 00:10:04.000 --> 00:10:06.159 It's everything you want it to be. 00:10:08.639 --> 00:10:17.200 The explosives were placed in the whale, spectators gathered around at what they considered was a safe distance. 00:10:18.399 --> 00:10:31.519 Yeah, television cameras are rolling, dynamite desonated, and the whale it exploded absolutely fucking everywhere, not in a nice controlled everything vanishes and obliterates kind of way. 00:10:33.440 --> 00:10:46.480 There was like a massive, gigantic shower of rotting blubber dispersed in every direction, up in the air, sideways, launched everywhere. 00:10:47.440 --> 00:10:54.000 And the pieces obviously were raining down on the spectators, on the beach, surrounding areas, television crew. 00:10:54.159 --> 00:10:56.320 Everybody was splattered with this thing. 00:10:56.480 --> 00:10:59.679 It was a rainstorm of decomposing whale, basically. 00:11:00.080 --> 00:11:04.639 But then came the bit that I liked the most about this ridiculous plan. 00:11:06.159 --> 00:11:10.639 A large, large chunk of blubber landed on a private car. 00:11:10.960 --> 00:11:14.240 Parked, unassuming person, just parked up. 00:11:14.480 --> 00:11:17.919 And it was didn't land with like a little splat either, as you can imagine. 00:11:18.080 --> 00:11:20.240 It crushed the roof and wrote the car off. 00:11:22.320 --> 00:11:28.000 The vehicle belonged to Walser Urmanhofer, Hofer, I think, H-O-F-E-R. 00:11:28.639 --> 00:11:31.759 And um, I was thinking about this. 00:11:31.840 --> 00:11:33.600 You'd have to do an insurance claim. 00:11:33.840 --> 00:11:35.200 What did you put on it? 00:11:35.519 --> 00:11:37.200 Not like a drop-down box, isn't it? 00:11:37.279 --> 00:11:39.039 You know, accident, theft, or whatever. 00:11:39.200 --> 00:11:43.519 There's not a box where a bit of exploded whale landing on your car writing it off. 00:11:43.919 --> 00:11:47.519 That'd have to be a phone call because there's not a drop-down box online for that. 00:11:48.240 --> 00:11:50.559 Anyway, it was an Oldsmobile. 00:11:50.799 --> 00:11:56.159 And there's contemporary accounts that quoted while figuring off the you know did some interviews. 00:11:56.399 --> 00:12:01.519 And he said, he's apparently perched it because it was told it was a solid vehicle. 00:12:03.519 --> 00:12:04.159 Volvo. 00:12:05.759 --> 00:12:10.080 So basically, he bought this Oldsmobile being told it was solid. 00:12:10.240 --> 00:12:12.000 Nobody ever thought that a while. 00:12:12.240 --> 00:12:14.480 Been a while, would drop down it and write it off. 00:12:14.720 --> 00:12:16.080 Anyway, the cleanup. 00:12:16.240 --> 00:12:19.200 You can imagine that it was it was just horrific. 00:12:19.279 --> 00:12:19.840 The clean up. 00:12:20.000 --> 00:12:21.519 So he basically got spunked on, didn't he? 00:12:21.600 --> 00:12:22.320 If it was a sperm whale. 00:12:22.639 --> 00:12:23.279 Sperm whale, yeah. 00:12:23.360 --> 00:12:25.200 Bubum, well done, Kev. 00:12:25.440 --> 00:12:26.159 Well, you know. 00:12:26.399 --> 00:12:28.480 Keep them coming, keep them coming. 00:12:29.200 --> 00:12:38.480 Anyway, so there was a massive explosion uh and they did go everywhere, but much of the carcass remained on the beach, so it did explode in every direction. 00:12:38.639 --> 00:12:42.240 But this thing's an eight-ton thing, it it was just too big. 00:12:42.399 --> 00:12:42.720 Yeah. 00:12:43.200 --> 00:12:46.080 So a lot of the carcass remained on the beach. 00:12:46.320 --> 00:12:51.840 Um, and the pieces that were launched into the air, a lot of them were too large for birds to

carry off. 00:12:52.000 --> 00:13:02.399 So then there's fucking scavengers and birds all over the beach and surrounding area because he can't carry it off, they're just pecking at it where they are so it's like it's like a fucking nightmare. 00:13:02.559 --> 00:13:03.440 Birds everywhere. 00:13:04.720 --> 00:13:07.440 Oh anyway. 00:13:08.080 --> 00:13:11.759 So the problem hadn't disappeared with the explosion. 00:13:11.919 --> 00:13:13.200 It's just been spread. 00:13:13.440 --> 00:13:15.600 It just the problem had become bigger. 00:13:15.679 --> 00:13:16.000 Yeah. 00:13:16.799 --> 00:13:21.200 And probably stinkier as well because of the guts had been exploded. 00:13:24.399 --> 00:13:27.600 I can almost smell it now with my sense of smell. 00:13:28.000 --> 00:13:28.960 Amazingly. 00:13:29.120 --> 00:13:32.720 Uh, because I mean imagine the weights on this thing exploding out, yeah. 00:13:32.960 --> 00:13:35.600 Not the spectators were injured or the crew or anything. 00:13:35.679 --> 00:13:36.960 It did drop on them and around. 00:13:37.200 --> 00:13:42.960 Because I didn't get covered, but it didn't like smack anybody in the face, knock them out, or injure them or kill them, and I think like that. 00:13:43.519 --> 00:13:45.360 So they did clean it up. 00:13:45.440 --> 00:13:51.039 Uh, it took ages and it was just it was the talking point of the town for a very, very long time. 00:13:51.279 --> 00:13:55.039 But like a lot of these things, people like to cash in on them. 00:13:55.200 --> 00:13:55.919 Of course they do. 00:13:56.080 --> 00:13:56.960 I would do the same. 00:13:57.200 --> 00:13:59.840 It's a little small town of Florence and Oregon. 00:14:00.080 --> 00:14:01.759 Of course they're gonna cash in. 00:14:02.000 --> 00:14:04.240 They made the whale famous. 00:14:04.559 --> 00:14:09.360 Paul Lindman's news report that I was talking about before, it became a cult classic. 00:14:09.519 --> 00:14:11.440 That's why it's still around now. 00:14:12.159 --> 00:14:17.039 Um, and you know, it's it's literally had millions of clicks and views, this thing. 00:14:31.519 --> 00:14:38.720 Here comes the case of our camera stopped rolling immediately after the blast. 00:14:38.879 --> 00:14:45.440 The humor of the entire situation suddenly gave way to a run for survival as huge chunks of whale blubber fell everywhere. 00:14:45.679 --> 00:14:49.440 Pieces of meat passed high over our heads while others were falling at our feet. 00:14:49.600 --> 00:14:55.279 The dunes were rapidly evacuated as spectators escaped both the falling debris and the overwhelming smell. 00:14:55.519 --> 00:15:00.000 A parked car over a quarter of a mile from the blast site was the target of one large chunk. 00:15:00.240 --> 00:15:02.559 The passenger compartment literally smashed. 00:15:02.720 --> 00:15:05.360 Fortunately, no human was hit as badly as the car. 00:15:05.519 --> 00:15:09.440 However, everyone on the scene was covered with small particles of dead whale. 00:15:09.919 --> 00:15:18.799 As for the success of the effort, well, the seagulls who were supposed to clean things up were nowhere in sight, either scared away by the explosion or kept away by the smell. 00:15:19.039 --> 00:15:30.399 It became that famous that Florence embraced the whale, and in 2020, the town named a recreational area, uh the explosing whale memorial park. 00:15:31.759 --> 00:15:34.720 I thought there was a named named the whale. 00:15:34.799 --> 00:15:34.960 Yeah. 00:15:35.120 --> 00:15:37.200 No, give it a name because, you know. 00:15:37.440 --> 00:15:46.240 But no, they didn't give it a name, and they didn't come up with anything other than literally the explosing whale memorial park. 00:15:46.480 --> 00:15:47.759 You think they call it like a little bit? 00:15:48.159 --> 00:15:49.840 Just call it Dale the Exploding Whale. 00:15:50.159 --> 00:15:51.279 Or whale park. 00:15:51.360 --> 00:15:51.679 Yeah. 00:15:51.840 --> 00:15:54.559 Or no, the explosing whale memorial park. 00:15:54.879 --> 00:15:56.159 Blubber on rubber. 00:15:56.399 --> 00:15:57.200 Oh my god. 00:15:58.159 --> 00:16:00.080 I've seen some blubber in rubber mate. 00:16:00.639 --> 00:16:01.279 Yeah. 00:16:02.159 --> 00:16:03.279 Me too. 00:16:04.000 --> 00:16:04.960 Anyway. 00:16:06.240 --> 00:16:10.240 So the the um the whale's become famous. 00:16:10.399 --> 00:16:23.120 The town had a terrible problem with it, but they've cashed in on it, and this little place on uh on the map has now got like a proper little place in history because of this giant whale and they're still cashing in on it now. 00:16:23.279 --> 00:16:24.960 Oh, I wonder if you can get a fridge magnet. 00:16:25.200 --> 00:16:26.000 Probably. 00:16:26.559 --> 00:16:28.480 Bits of whale, bits of whale, yeah. 00:16:28.639 --> 00:16:29.039 A fin. 00:16:29.519 --> 00:16:34.159 Do you think they're selling it in the shop saying, like, this is this is like some of the old blabber and it's been dried. 00:16:34.399 --> 00:16:40.399 Yeah, and there'll be people out there that'll believe it is the actual whale as well, because there's some dickheads out there that believe that sort of shit. 00:16:40.559 --> 00:16:41.120 Yeah. 00:16:41.440 --> 00:16:46.320 I think that was a spectacularly stupid solution to this problem. 00:16:46.559 --> 00:16:47.200 100%. 00:16:47.679 --> 00:16:55.440 Um, they mustn't have had the machinery, maybe, or the means of getting the machinery to the beach to lift it. 00:16:55.600 --> 00:16:58.320 They mustn't have 8 tonne 45 for it. 00:16:58.480 --> 00:16:59.440 So cut it up. 00:16:59.759 --> 00:17:02.799 Uh well, also, how what are they gonna cuss it up, Kev? 00:17:02.879 --> 00:17:03.279 With what? 00:17:03.440 --> 00:17:07.599 A chainsaw! It's massive! Yeah, one little cut, then another little cut. 00:17:07.839 --> 00:17:08.720 Oh, fuck off. 00:17:08.880 --> 00:17:12.880 Using a chainsaw would be like cutting a piece of bread with a little needle. 00:17:13.200 -->

00:17:15.119 That'd be like slicing a joint of beef. 00:17:15.359 --> 00:17:19.839 Zn shave it, cut it down, get rid. 00:17:21.279 --> 00:17:22.480 Can you eat while? 00:17:22.880 --> 00:17:23.920 People did, didn't they? 00:17:24.079 --> 00:17:24.480 Yeah. 00:17:24.720 --> 00:17:25.680 That's why they were hunted. 00:17:25.759 --> 00:17:27.359 They were hunted for the blubber, their meat. 00:17:27.680 --> 00:17:29.759 The oil, yeah, they made oil out of it and that. 00:17:30.000 --> 00:17:32.160 But uh I'm not like Thank God that stopped. 00:17:32.319 --> 00:17:33.119 Oh dear me. 00:17:33.200 --> 00:17:34.400 You know, you just see what they did. 00:17:34.480 --> 00:17:35.119 I'm not gonna go into it. 00:17:35.920 --> 00:17:36.880 It just upsets me what they did. 00:17:37.359 --> 00:17:38.319 Beautiful creatures. 00:17:38.640 --> 00:17:44.559 But I might maybe they could have cut it off and sold bits of it and used bits of it, but I don't know whether maybe because it's decomposed. 00:17:44.799 --> 00:17:46.160 Yeah, I was gonna say how far gone was it though. 00:17:46.400 --> 00:17:48.000 It was decomposed, it wouldn't be safe, would it? 00:17:48.240 --> 00:17:50.000 Yeah, and they don't know what it died off as well. 00:17:50.319 --> 00:17:51.599 So you don't know what was in it. 00:17:51.759 --> 00:17:52.160 Yeah. 00:17:52.400 --> 00:17:55.200 But they could have made some use of it. 00:17:55.279 --> 00:18:00.640 I mean the blubber would have been worth, but then I suppose the oil industry had moved on from then, hadn't it? 00:18:00.720 --> 00:18:00.799 Yeah. 00:18:01.039 --> 00:18:03.440 It's only really the Japanese and the Norwegians that were still doing it. 00:18:03.759 --> 00:18:04.319 Maybe, maybe. 00:18:04.480 --> 00:18:06.160 When did when did whaling stop though? 00:18:06.559 --> 00:18:08.160 I don't think it was that long ago, you know. 00:18:08.319 --> 00:18:11.200 I think it's been illegal in certain countries and waters, but I don't think it's a lot of things. 00:18:11.519 --> 00:18:12.240 1970. 00:18:12.640 --> 00:18:13.519 I don't know, you know. 00:18:16.079 --> 00:18:17.039 1970. 00:18:17.200 --> 00:18:18.480 In America, anyway, at least. 00:18:18.720 --> 00:18:19.440 Okay, let's see. 00:18:19.680 --> 00:18:21.599 Because they'd have been doing it up in Alaska, wouldn't they? 00:18:22.400 --> 00:18:24.240 And Oregon's not far from Alaska. 00:18:24.720 --> 00:18:26.079 I mean, there's a whole fucking big country. 00:18:38.160 --> 00:18:42.880 Which made it illegal for any United States resident to kill and injure or harass marine mammals. 00:18:43.599 --> 00:18:44.000 Well, there you go. 00:18:44.240 --> 00:18:44.559 There you go. 00:18:44.640 --> 00:18:45.519 So it's still legal. 00:18:47.599 --> 00:18:48.400 Interesting. 00:18:48.720 --> 00:18:53.359 Anyway, from one monster to another. 00:18:54.000 --> 00:18:55.119 What's your favourite monster? 00:18:55.359 --> 00:18:58.160 You've like obviously most monsters aren't real.

00:18:58.480 --> 00:19:01.519 Maybe a real one that's class as like a monstrous animal of some sort. 00:19:01.599 --> 00:19:04.960 Have you got like a favourite monster, mythological, real, whatever? 00:19:05.279 --> 00:19:06.640 A favourite monster. 00:19:07.920 --> 00:19:10.000 You've got it for the backstory or something. 00:19:10.640 --> 00:19:13.359 Um to be honest with you I love a gremlin. 00:19:13.759 --> 00:19:14.160 Do you? 00:19:14.319 --> 00:19:15.119 I do love a gremlin. 00:19:15.359 --> 00:19:16.559 Don't feed the gremlins after that nice. 00:19:16.799 --> 00:19:18.720 Mogwai's a cute, but the gremlins are hilarious. 00:19:18.960 --> 00:19:23.519 Mogwai! Mogwai! Bye-bye, Billy! It's a day of impersonations. 00:19:35.359 --> 00:19:37.039 Yeah, I love gremlins. 00:19:41.119 --> 00:19:42.720 Why haven't I seen you do this before? 00:19:43.119 --> 00:19:44.319 Like a little party trick. 00:19:46.480 --> 00:19:47.599 I'm talented, me. 00:19:48.000 --> 00:19:52.720 Maybe I should um change you from cruising Kev in my phone to Gremlin. 00:19:53.119 --> 00:19:54.160 Nah, cruising Kev. 00:19:54.400 --> 00:19:54.960 Cruising Kev. 00:19:55.200 --> 00:19:55.279 Yeah. 00:19:55.599 --> 00:19:56.079 Anyway. 00:19:56.319 --> 00:19:59.920 So I don't know that I've got a favourite monster as such. 00:20:00.240 --> 00:20:03.279 Um, I do like uh a good dinosaur. 00:20:03.359 --> 00:20:05.359 I know it's not a monster, but as a creature. 00:20:05.680 --> 00:20:08.160 They look like monstrous, don't they? 00:20:08.240 --> 00:20:10.319 Because we don't recognise we're something now. 00:20:10.480 --> 00:20:14.640 We look back and we see them as these big, gigantic, monstrous creatures. 00:20:14.960 --> 00:20:18.400 And uh I've been listening to loads of podcasts on um dinosaurs and shit. 00:20:18.559 --> 00:20:19.680 I love history and all that. 00:20:19.839 --> 00:20:30.480 And did you know that um the we obviously see dinosaurs now as scaly and brown, grey, black, pale, but they know now that some of them were multicoloured and feathered. 00:20:30.799 --> 00:20:31.119 Yes. 00:20:31.279 --> 00:20:33.759 Well, dinosaurs basically are now birds. 00:20:34.000 --> 00:20:39.680 So, but even the likes of maybe not the T Rex, but land dinosaurs, a lot of them had feathers. 00:20:39.920 --> 00:20:40.720 Yeah, they did. 00:20:41.039 --> 00:20:43.920 And uh and mad colours, it's just great. 00:20:44.160 --> 00:20:51.119 So I love dinosaurs because they're so varied, and you know, there's so many of them, and I'm still learning stuff about dinosaurs. 00:20:51.519 --> 00:20:55.680 But have you seen what they've how they've worked out that but they've basically evolved into birds? 00:20:55.759 --> 00:21:02.640 Yeah, because a skeleton of a dinosaur they can actually see the same skeleton in a bird, and the same with the claws in fossils. 00:21:02.960 --> 00:21:04.160 And you know what type of bird? 00:21:04.960 --> 00:21:05.680 Uh no. 00:21:06.079 --> 00:21:06.559 Chicken. 00:21:06.799 --> 00:21:07.519 Chicken, really. 00:21:07.759 --> 00:21:08.000 Yeah. 00:21:08.240 --> 00:21:09.119 Can you believe that? 00:21:09.200 --> 00:21:10.880 Have you ever seen a chicken go for a mouse? 00:21:11.279 --> 00:21:11.599 No. 00:21:11.920 --> 00:21:15.200 You think chickens are just nice little things pecking round and all that, you know? 00:21:16.079 --> 00:21:16.640 All that. 00:21:17.279 --> 00:21:19.759 No, there's a video somewhere. 00:21:19.839 --> 00:21:21.039 Uh it's a dog or a cat. 00:21:21.599 --> 00:21:22.640 Could be a dog, don't know. 00:21:22.880 --> 00:21:26.079 And there's a mouse, and they'll have the other animals like that. 00:21:26.160 --> 00:21:31.279 Looking, the chicken comes over, runs, swoops in, grabs the mouse and fucking legs it and does that. 00:21:31.839 --> 00:21:32.720 Really so proper. 00:21:33.119 --> 00:21:34.799 Rips it to bits. 00:21:35.680 --> 00:21:37.039 So yeah, the chicken. 00:21:37.599 --> 00:21:39.599 So they didn't die out, they evolved into birds. 00:21:39.759 --> 00:21:42.559 And like, you know, crocodiles, alligators, very prehistoric, who knows? 00:21:42.720 --> 00:21:43.680 They date right back, you know. 00:21:43.920 --> 00:21:44.160 Yeah. 00:21:44.720 --> 00:21:56.000 So we are gonna talk very briefly again about another little type of monster, no, not so little monster, who we think is mythological, some people think is real. 00:21:56.880 --> 00:21:57.680 Any clues? 00:21:58.880 --> 00:21:59.359 The Yeti. 00:22:02.319 --> 00:22:05.119 Who looks like it could be a dinosaur? 00:22:06.319 --> 00:22:07.119 Plestiosaur. 00:22:08.799 --> 00:22:10.640 Oh, the Loch Ness Monster. 00:22:10.799 --> 00:22:11.200 Yes. 00:22:11.359 --> 00:22:12.960 I'm not going to tell you boring shit. 00:22:13.119 --> 00:22:14.799 You all know about the Loch Ness monster. 00:22:14.960 --> 00:22:26.400 But 12th of November 1933, Hugh Grey went for a walk around the Loch and he took the first photograph that helped create one of the biggest mysteries in the world of the Loch Ness monster. 00:22:26.480 --> 00:22:27.920 So 12th of November 1933. 00:22:28.160 --> 00:22:28.880 Good old Nessie. 00:22:29.119 --> 00:22:30.400 Nearly 100 years ago. 00:22:30.640 --> 00:22:35.680 But the photograph that he took is not the one that we all know and love of the head coming out of the water. 00:22:36.079 --> 00:22:37.680 That was just someone's arm, really, wasn't it? 00:22:37.759 --> 00:22:38.480 I mean, it's obvious. 00:22:38.640 --> 00:22:42.720 Well, we know now it's actually like a submarine type thing with an arm coming out of it. 00:22:42.960 --> 00:22:43.440 Yeah. 00:22:43.759 --> 00:22:47.119 But um no, Hugh Grey's um photograph is slightly different. 00:22:47.200 --> 00:22:52.880 It's more of a creature under the water, like a dark creature, almost like anacondorish with ripples. 00:22:53.039 --> 00:22:54.880 That's what his photograph is. 00:22:55.279 --> 00:22:59.839 The one um later on, I have got

the guy's name here somewhere because I can't remember it. 00:22:59.920 --> 00:23:00.720 I'll come to it. 00:23:00.799 --> 00:23:04.720 Uh, it was his one that we all know of the head coming out of the water. 00:23:04.799 --> 00:23:05.680 That's a fee. 00:23:06.079 --> 00:23:09.279 So but the first photograph was taken by Hugh Grey. 00:23:09.920 --> 00:23:16.160 Um, and obviously, scientists for decades and decades have been trying to figure out if Nessie is real or not. 00:23:16.559 --> 00:23:24.000 And in 2026, people are still reporting sightings, and there's been more sightings this year than has been for many, many years. 00:23:24.240 --> 00:23:24.559 Really? 00:23:24.720 --> 00:23:25.200 Yeah, yeah. 00:23:25.440 --> 00:23:27.200 And she's getting on a bit now, though, isn't she? 00:23:27.440 --> 00:23:27.920 Absolutely, yeah. 00:23:28.000 --> 00:23:29.519 Same lock Ness Monster. 00:23:29.839 --> 00:23:31.359 Anyway, do you know what? 00:23:31.440 --> 00:23:34.079 Hugh Grey used a Kodak, Kodak camera as well. 00:23:34.160 --> 00:23:36.319 Kodaks were around for so many years. 00:23:36.559 --> 00:23:41.200 Uh, I didn't know that we're really familiar with 1933, and the same Kodak camera. 00:23:41.279 --> 00:23:41.359 Wow. 00:23:41.599 --> 00:23:42.319 And brand then. 00:23:43.839 --> 00:23:49.519 So yeah, he said he saw he noticed something large moving in the water, creating a ripple and not a little ripple. 00:23:49.599 --> 00:23:54.160 So he didn't think of like an eel because the the loch, uh, don't you know this loch net is full of eels? 00:23:54.400 --> 00:23:55.519 Yeah, and it's also huge. 00:23:55.759 --> 00:23:56.880 Yeah, it's huge, massive. 00:23:56.960 --> 00:23:58.799 I'll give and go into the size in a minute. 00:23:58.880 --> 00:24:01.119 It's full of eels, some big ones as well. 00:24:01.279 --> 00:24:02.880 But he was like, Yeah, it's not an eel there. 00:24:03.039 --> 00:24:04.799 Making a bigger ripple, that's not a reel. 00:24:05.039 --> 00:24:05.920 Uh an eel. 00:24:06.240 --> 00:24:10.960 So um, anyway, you thought, right, this is I'm gonna get my camera now, see if it'll break the surface. 00:24:11.200 --> 00:24:15.759 Anyway, you might take several photographs and one of them is the famous one that I was talking about before. 00:24:16.079 --> 00:24:17.839 Newspapers got holes of it. 00:24:18.000 --> 00:24:23.839 Now, the myths around the lock have been going on for centuries, centuries. 00:24:24.079 --> 00:24:26.000 It did not start with Hugh Grey. 00:24:26.559 --> 00:24:34.319 People have been talking about seeing things in the lock for a long, long, long time with lots of different theories about what it is. 00:24:34.880 --> 00:24:40.400 I think because he had the photograph, and it was at the time when the press just jumped at anything like this. 00:24:40.880 --> 00:24:43.200 They just took this story and ran with it. 00:24:43.359 --> 00:24:47.519 Um, and that's why um the the myth grew from there. 00:24:47.680 -->

00:24:52.880 That I'm just gonna try and find the name of the guy who took the one that we that we all know. 00:24:53.039 --> 00:25:02.880 It does come up in here somewhere, but I think it was only about a year or so later, it wasn't that long afterwards, but they did they haven't discredited this one. 00:25:03.119 --> 00:25:09.519 So he was obviously um trying to capitalise in on the original photo, then isn't he? 00:25:09.759 --> 00:25:12.000 So he's basically saying, Well, I've got a better shot, you know. 00:25:12.160 --> 00:25:13.599 Yes, oh hey, yeah. 00:25:14.000 --> 00:25:17.839 There's people that said they took other photos themselves, but all of them were discredited. 00:25:18.000 --> 00:25:18.559 Yeah. 00:25:18.799 --> 00:25:21.519 Um, but Hugh Grey, his one. 00:25:21.839 --> 00:25:35.680 And also, I don't think you know this, there's like um a criteria that uh a witness account, photograph, an oral account has to meet to be a credible Nessie sighting. 00:25:35.920 --> 00:25:39.519 So it has to meet certain criteria for it to be recorded in a log. 00:25:39.839 --> 00:25:43.279 They have to record all the sightings and then investigate them and stuff like that. 00:25:44.880 --> 00:25:47.920 One of these sightings goes back to the sixth century. 00:25:48.240 --> 00:25:49.119 Really that far. 00:25:49.359 --> 00:25:50.400 She is old then. 00:25:50.640 --> 00:25:51.759 Yeah, yeah. 00:25:52.000 --> 00:25:56.240 And um they were they called it the water beast in the in the riverness. 00:25:56.480 --> 00:25:57.920 They called it the riverness then. 00:25:58.079 --> 00:25:58.480 Wow. 00:25:58.640 --> 00:26:01.039 So I mean, I'm gonna be a little bit careful with that. 00:26:01.200 --> 00:26:09.200 It is a religious story uh involving Saint Columba, uh, written a long, long, long time ago, but it is still quoted now. 00:26:09.279 --> 00:26:14.240 You know, it is an account that was written down, and you treat that like all the other accounts that we have now. 00:26:14.319 --> 00:26:16.400 Yeah, we can't prove nothing. 00:26:17.279 --> 00:26:17.759 So, anyway. 00:26:18.000 --> 00:26:20.799 I think it's nice that they've not been able to prove it then because it keeps the legend going. 00:26:21.119 --> 00:26:22.079 It keeps the legend going. 00:26:22.160 --> 00:26:28.319 And I think as humans, we just need a little bit of fantasy don't we sometimes to take us out of the real life grind and all that. 00:26:28.559 --> 00:26:32.480 And of course, that area needs it now for the tourism because it Nessie is bringing in. 00:26:32.559 --> 00:26:35.599 Yeah, that's the only reason people go to Loch Ness now is to try and spot Nessie. 00:26:35.920 --> 00:26:39.200 But then I think when people go then to Loch Ness, they realise how beautiful it is. 00:26:39.440 --> 00:26:42.319 It is stunning, and go back, you know, spend more time there. 00:26:42.480 --> 00:26:48.960 So, yes, it draws people in, but it draws people in again and again because they you discover how beautiful it is because Loch Ness is beautiful if you have a lot of. 00:26:49.119 --> 00:26:50.559 There's another Loch next door to Lochnest. 00:26:50.720 --> 00:26:51.359 Lock Homand? 00:26:51.599 --> 00:26:53.279 No, it's not from it. 00:26:53.680 --> 00:27:15.440 I think it's further up because there's the you've got the Caledonian Canal, which basically runs from one side of Scotland down to the other, and it um it was created by the guy who created lot of the I think it's is it um James Brindley, I think, created it, um, to enable ships to go from one side of Scotland to the other without having to go around the trespass, yeah, a treacherous area. 00:27:15.839 --> 00:27:16.720 Yeah, around the coast. 00:27:17.119 --> 00:27:17.279 Right. 00:27:17.519 --> 00:27:25.359 So he linked the locks with canals, but there is another lock, and I'm sure they have a monster as well. 00:27:25.599 --> 00:27:26.400 Of course they do. 00:27:26.559 --> 00:27:28.160 They're not gonna let Ness have its own. 00:27:28.400 --> 00:27:30.720 Your homework for the next episode is to lock that up. 00:27:30.880 --> 00:27:31.119 Okay. 00:27:31.279 --> 00:27:33.759 That's gonna be a segment, so you can just give us a little update on that on that. 00:27:34.079 --> 00:27:36.799 Or do you remind you because if you're like me, you'll forget. 00:27:37.039 --> 00:27:37.680 I will forget. 00:27:37.839 --> 00:27:41.359 And I'll probably forget until I edit this, and I'll go, oh shit. 00:27:42.480 --> 00:27:44.799 We both forgot until this moment. 00:27:45.519 --> 00:27:51.359 So, like I say, newspapers took hold of this, but then this other photograph, 1934. 00:27:51.440 --> 00:27:53.599 I'm gonna call it the photograph. 00:27:54.160 --> 00:28:01.359 It's a so-called surgeon's photograph, like I said before, the long neck, little head, all that kind of thing. 00:28:01.599 --> 00:28:07.359 Uh, for decades, people have said it like the strongest evidence that Nessie existed, but it was a hoax. 00:28:07.440 --> 00:28:14.480 People have looked into it, the 100% confirmed that's a hoax, but it still appears everywhere. 00:28:14.880 --> 00:28:16.960 Because it is the most famous photo. 00:28:17.359 --> 00:28:20.720 Well, it's the one that we we look at and we go, oh, Nessie. 00:28:20.799 --> 00:28:21.440 Yeah. 00:28:21.759 --> 00:28:28.799 Even though it's not, we've it's been in our brain in front of our eyes for so many years now, we can't unsee it. 00:28:28.880 --> 00:28:32.559 So even though we know it's a hoax, it's still Nessie. 00:28:32.720 --> 00:28:33.039 Exactly. 00:28:33.119 --> 00:28:36.480 Everyone wants Nessie to look like a diplodicus, don't they? 00:28:36.640 --> 00:28:38.640 Diplodocus, as I used to say when I was a kid. 00:28:38.799 --> 00:28:38.960 Yeah. 00:28:39.039 --> 00:28:40.400 That it's diplodicus, isn't it? 00:28:40.559 --> 00:28:41.200 I can't say it. 00:28:41.279 --> 00:28:42.480 I'm glad you did that. 00:28:44.880 --> 00:28:47.759 So is

there a dinosaur in Loch Ness? 00:28:47.920 --> 00:28:48.960 Because that's what they think it is. 00:28:49.039 --> 00:28:51.119 It's a it's a plesiosaur. 00:28:51.519 --> 00:28:55.279 And plesiosaurs became extinct around 66 million years ago. 00:28:55.599 --> 00:28:59.680 Loch Ness was shaped by glaciers during the ice age. 00:28:59.839 --> 00:29:01.599 How have these things survived? 00:29:01.759 --> 00:29:05.200 If that is the problem, uh, if that is the case, sorry. 00:29:05.359 --> 00:29:07.039 That is a massive, massive problem. 00:29:07.599 --> 00:29:09.440 I don't think it would survive. 00:29:10.000 --> 00:29:11.920 They they've done different tests. 00:29:12.079 --> 00:29:16.400 The scientists, not long ago, actually, um, have done tests on the water. 00:29:16.480 --> 00:29:25.599 I don't know if you know this, that they can uh test water and they can see what lives in the water by the DNA they leave behind, like scales and that kind of thing. 00:29:26.240 --> 00:29:31.920 Now, bearing in mind this lock is 23 miles long and 200 metres deep at its deepest point. 00:29:32.240 --> 00:29:33.599 200 metres deep? 00:29:33.680 --> 00:29:34.319 That's deep. 00:29:34.559 --> 00:29:36.000 And it's fresh water. 00:29:36.640 --> 00:29:41.279 It's famously dark and murky, so investigating what's in there is pretty hard. 00:29:41.519 --> 00:29:49.200 So the scientists uh they decided to test the water because the only way they could really see what was in there, see an inverted commas. 00:29:49.759 --> 00:29:57.599 The team was led by this professor Neil Gemmel, and he's from the University of Otaga or Otago in New Zealand. 00:29:57.839 --> 00:30:02.799 There's a university in New Zealand doing this experiment on a lock in Scotland. 00:30:02.960 --> 00:30:05.440 Why weren't Scotland getting the fucking funding for this? 00:30:05.519 --> 00:30:06.319 Do you know what I mean? 00:30:06.640 --> 00:30:15.839 Anyway, so he called this technique environmental DNA or e DNA, and he said that every creature leaves little traces of genetic material behind. 00:30:16.079 --> 00:30:20.480 So he said to skin cells, mucus, feces, and other biological material. 00:30:20.720 --> 00:30:22.880 Fascinating fucking stuff, there's a lot of all this. 00:30:23.119 --> 00:30:33.519 And he said that by um analysing the water samples, he can identify how many organisms are in there, what they are, uh without ever needing to actually catch sight of them. 00:30:33.759 --> 00:30:34.079 Right. 00:30:34.319 --> 00:30:37.759 So you've got a DNA uh basic uh bank like a footprint, isn't it? 00:30:38.000 --> 00:30:39.759 A database of all these creatures. 00:30:40.079 --> 00:30:49.279 The results were announced in 2019, and he said there was no evidence whatsoever supporting the presence of a plesiosaur or another large unknown reptile at all. 00:30:49.839 --> 00:30:54.240 No convincing evidence of a shark, catfish population, nothing. 00:30:54.559 --> 00:30:57.920 There was a loss of

eel DNA. 00:30:58.319 --> 00:31:00.319 A loss eel DNA. 00:31:00.720 --> 00:31:11.200 Now we know that European eels can grow to a very large size, but nothing remotely approaching the 20-30 foot long size that people say Nessi is. 00:31:12.960 --> 00:31:21.599 And they didn't discover DNA from anything that's like a giant eel or something that's like an eel that's you know morphed. 00:31:21.759 --> 00:31:22.960 There's just nothing. 00:31:23.680 --> 00:31:28.880 So I would like to go with the science on that, but keep the legend going. 00:31:29.119 --> 00:31:34.079 But keep the legend going because um I think we just need these little things in our lives. 00:31:34.400 --> 00:31:35.279 Loch Ness need. 00:31:36.000 --> 00:31:46.799 And like I said at the beginning there, um the experts they do think that there's there's nothing in there, but they want the myth kept alive. 00:31:46.960 --> 00:31:57.359 Uh and they said that in 2026, like I said before, more visitors have visited the area than ever, uh, and more people have sighted Nessie in 2026 and they have done for a long, long, long time. 00:31:57.680 --> 00:31:59.519 Usually with a little tartan berry on his end. 00:32:00.319 --> 00:32:03.119 Yeah, with like a little bit of like a wig hanging down from it. 00:32:04.000 --> 00:32:09.440 Yeah, so 53 years of research has been going on. 00:32:09.599 --> 00:32:17.759 They've invested a lot of time, manpower, money, effort into this, and we still actually don't know. 00:32:18.400 --> 00:32:20.559 But that science for me is the one. 00:32:20.880 --> 00:32:25.839 Yeah, but I'm gonna forget the science because I want to believe that Nessie exists. 00:32:26.079 --> 00:32:27.680 I want to believe as well. 00:32:27.839 --> 00:32:34.640 I want to believe that maybe Nessie's, you know, hidden in a little corner somewhere, doesn't shed skin because she's been around for 66 million years. 00:32:34.880 --> 00:32:38.559 Yeah, she's got a little cave underneath Father Christmas, yeah, and the Yeti. 00:32:38.799 --> 00:32:41.279 Yeah, well, I do believe there's Sasquatch and Yeti. 00:32:41.440 --> 00:32:41.599 Really? 00:32:41.839 --> 00:32:43.200 Absolutely, yeah, yeah, I do. 00:32:43.440 --> 00:32:50.240 Um, I just think that there's too many Sythens, absolute 100% sightings, there's been loads. 00:32:50.400 --> 00:32:51.759 And why wouldn't there be? 00:32:52.000 --> 00:32:57.279 You know, they are quite humanoid, they could absolutely you know live independently in the wilderness. 00:32:57.519 --> 00:33:00.160 There's been loads of evidence left behind. 00:33:00.559 --> 00:33:10.400 Um, the people have lived their lives studying what they think these Sasquatch are, closely linked to the likes of Yessi and all that kind of thing. 00:33:10.640 --> 00:33:11.759 So, yeah, I do. 00:33:11.839 --> 00:33:15.200 I think there is an awful lot out there that we just don't know yet. 00:33:15.440 --> 00:33:16.480 There's a lot we don't know. 00:33:16.559 --> 00:33:23.839

I mean, even going back, I mean, I was I was reading something online um the other day, whether it's real or not, I don't know. 00:33:24.160 --> 00:33:30.720 But apparently a Roman uh the statue of a Roman head or something was found. 00:33:31.279 --> 00:33:44.160 Um or the head of a Roman statue was found in the ruins of one of the Inca temples or something, and of course, exactly, right? 00:33:44.480 --> 00:33:54.400 Um maps of the world have been discovered over in South America, all sorts of things where it's like, well, hang on a minute, how was this happened? 00:33:55.039 --> 00:33:55.359 Right? 00:33:55.680 --> 00:34:10.559 There's a apparently there's a some form of monument stone or something that's been carved in Viking in the the the sort of like the far west of the USA or the midwest of the USA, and it's like they they got that far? 00:34:10.719 --> 00:34:16.320 Well, I mean it's the Iraq and actually that Vikings did come across um. 00:34:16.800 --> 00:34:19.679 Well they went to Canada, they went to Newfoundland, everything like that. 00:34:19.840 --> 00:34:21.199 So why wouldn't they go in in further? 00:34:21.599 --> 00:34:22.079 This is it. 00:34:22.159 --> 00:34:22.400 Yeah. 00:34:22.559 --> 00:34:22.960 This is it. 00:34:23.119 --> 00:34:25.039 So there's a lot we don't know. 00:34:25.519 --> 00:34:30.880 Um, and that's good because everyone's up for learning and finding out new stuff. 00:34:31.199 --> 00:34:34.480 If we knew everything now, how boring would it be? 00:34:34.719 --> 00:34:37.199 And this is the other thing with AI as well. 00:34:37.360 --> 00:34:42.880 You know, it's so easy for people to just type things in AI and and read and look things up, which is fine the information's there. 00:34:42.960 --> 00:34:44.079 You type into Google. 00:34:44.559 --> 00:34:46.480 Google tells us the same thing. 00:34:46.960 --> 00:34:56.159 But if if we knew everything and all the information was just there and how easily it feeds into our eyes and our ears and our brains now, there's less effort. 00:34:56.320 --> 00:35:05.760 So if we knew everything, we wouldn't be forcing ourselves to find new things, discovering new things, feeding new things into our brains, exciting our brains. 00:35:05.920 --> 00:35:09.360 You know, there's nothing better than learning or discovering something new. 00:35:09.519 --> 00:35:14.000 You can almost feel your brain igniting with all this like new information. 00:35:14.320 --> 00:35:26.079 Apparently, apparently, the uh the Great Pyramid um in Egypt, it's um coordinates match the speed of light numbers. 00:35:26.320 --> 00:35:31.199 Yeah, I know well, I don't know a lot because I can't remember it all, but I've watched a lot. 00:35:31.360 --> 00:35:32.639 Jim has got it all in here. 00:35:32.800 --> 00:35:34.639 He knows a lot about Egyptian shit. 00:35:34.960 --> 00:35:46.320 And the stuff that they're coming up with, with um the pyramids and like uh lines across the world and how they meet up with certain places and stars, planets, yeah. 00:35:46.400 --> 00:35:50.000 The planets all along over that pyramid. 00:35:50.239 --> 00:35:53.119 Yeah, it's um it's just nuts. 00:35:53.440 --> 00:35:54.559 It's too coincidental. 00:35:54.719 --> 00:36:03.679 Yeah, and there's a guy, Graham something you all know him, he's like um archaeologists don't like him because he's making them question everything that they know. 00:36:03.840 --> 00:36:07.920 He's saying there's this lost civilization beyond what we know, yeah. 00:36:08.079 --> 00:36:19.679 Uh be and maybe even beyond like ice age, so and um extraordinary humans who were actually intelligent and had organized civilizations that were just wiped out. 00:36:20.000 --> 00:36:26.000 He said, Because, you know, if we've been around all these years, he said, How didn't we get to this point sooner? 00:36:26.079 --> 00:36:28.079 It's because we've been wiped out at some point. 00:36:28.800 --> 00:36:32.079 I mean, that's just one of the many, many, many, many things that he talks about. 00:36:32.239 --> 00:36:34.719 But this guy's really, really fucking interesting. 00:36:35.039 --> 00:36:35.920 I can't remember his name. 00:36:36.079 --> 00:36:36.800 Hang on. 00:36:38.320 --> 00:36:40.000 Oh, is it terrible getting old? 00:36:40.639 --> 00:36:41.920 It is, but I love all this stuff. 00:36:42.000 --> 00:36:46.159 I love the I love to think that we we don't know it all, right? 00:36:46.320 --> 00:36:47.920 And there's still more to find out. 00:36:48.079 --> 00:36:56.000 You know, they're discovering they've discovered that there's another continent underneath um the earth between Australia and Asia, um, which is under the sea. 00:36:56.079 --> 00:37:00.800 Yeah, but it's a continent in its own right, but it's just submerged. 00:37:00.960 --> 00:37:01.760 Yes, right? 00:37:01.920 --> 00:37:12.559 The Mediterranean was um basically uh a sort of like land, and then Spain separated from Africa and the water flooded in. 00:37:12.800 --> 00:37:17.039 Well, look at England and and uh continental Europe, we were attached to France, yeah. 00:37:17.360 --> 00:37:18.159 And Holland. 00:37:18.320 --> 00:37:18.800 Yeah, yeah. 00:37:19.039 --> 00:37:20.320 We're all just one big piece of land. 00:37:20.559 --> 00:37:22.400 Apparently, the English Channel was a river. 00:37:22.639 --> 00:37:23.199 Yeah. 00:37:23.519 --> 00:37:33.519 Well, have you ever there's been loads and loads of stuff about how they think um um we as a species travels across continents, you know. 00:37:33.679 --> 00:37:38.960 Um we were darker skinned, but how did those darker skinned people make it over to Spain? 00:37:39.119 --> 00:37:42.000 How did they become lighter skinned and all this kind of thing? 00:37:42.239 --> 00:37:49.920 Well, you've only got you've only got to look at um this the indigenous from South America and the Mongolians and the Chinese and the Nepalese. 00:37:50.079 --> 00:37:52.639 You look at them and they're very,

very similar. 00:37:52.719 --> 00:38:02.719 They're that Eskimo sort of like um Native American um sort of like look, it's there, and they used to cross all the way through. 00:38:02.960 --> 00:38:04.320 Yeah, it's definitely there. 00:38:04.559 --> 00:38:16.880 I I'm really fascinated uh with native native people, um, especially American Indians, really fucking interested in it, but also you know, the here we go. 00:38:16.960 --> 00:38:19.519 So all the way through this fucking episode during that bastard ass. 00:38:20.000 --> 00:38:22.960 Oh I know it's lovely, I love the hat. 00:38:23.119 --> 00:38:24.239 I'm very jealous. 00:38:24.800 --> 00:38:30.159 Um really, really, really interested in the uh fucking things that have been done to these poor people as well. 00:38:30.320 --> 00:38:34.239 Yeah, and still being done, and still being done, terrible, terrible, terrible. 00:38:34.480 --> 00:38:37.599 Um but um let me just go back Graham Hancock. 00:38:37.840 --> 00:38:38.960 Graham Hancock, yes. 00:38:39.280 --> 00:38:45.679 Okay, um, he's actually having surgery not long, not far away, on his heart, and he's a bit worried about it. 00:38:45.840 --> 00:38:49.280 And he went on Diary of a CEO podcast recently. 00:38:49.440 --> 00:38:51.119 If you don't watch it, I'll give her a little watch. 00:38:51.280 --> 00:38:56.559 And he talked about an hour and a half, and he talked about the things he's done in his life, and he said, I want to do this now. 00:38:56.719 --> 00:38:59.519 He said, because this could be the last time I speak to somebody in this capacity. 00:38:59.679 --> 00:39:01.440 He's on TV and everything, you know. 00:39:01.760 --> 00:39:10.000 Um, and he was quite frank, and he said, Yeah, I've got nothing to lose by saying some of the things that I I believe and all that. 00:39:10.079 --> 00:39:15.599 And and it's not that, you know, I want to change all your minds, I just want you to all question what you know. 00:39:15.920 --> 00:39:17.360 Open up your mind, yeah. 00:39:17.519 --> 00:39:35.519 And that's what I I love about this podcast is because some of the things that we talk about, you might not really uh agree with or understand or whatever, but it might open your mind to just think about other things, other realms, or the beliefs, or the cultures. 00:39:35.599 --> 00:39:40.960 It just opens your mind to question what you understand now and what you're comfortable with. 00:39:41.119 --> 00:39:43.440 I like taking us outside of what's comfortable. 00:39:43.679 --> 00:39:44.079 Exactly. 00:39:44.239 --> 00:39:46.639 Look at the church and science as one example. 00:39:46.880 --> 00:39:47.280 Yeah, yeah. 00:39:47.440 --> 00:39:49.360 You know, absolutely. 00:39:49.599 --> 00:39:54.719 Right, we're gonna move on then from um the whale explosion and nesting. 00:39:55.039 --> 00:39:56.800 Doing that for 40 minutes, Vic. 00:39:57.519 --> 00:39:58.800 I can see that. 00:40:00.079 --> 00:40:02.239 Okay, well, I'm not gonna do the rest

of this one. 00:40:02.639 --> 00:40:06.639 I'll just tell you that it's National Happy Hour Day in the US. 00:40:07.360 --> 00:40:09.199 Do you know where Happy Hour came from? 00:40:10.159 --> 00:40:11.280 No, I don't actually. 00:40:11.440 --> 00:40:13.920 I thought it was some British thing where they were trying to flog booze. 00:40:14.159 --> 00:40:14.559 Me too. 00:40:14.719 --> 00:40:16.400 Me too, no, I come from the US. 00:40:16.880 --> 00:40:17.440 Right. 00:40:18.239 --> 00:40:21.440 I call it goes back to 1913, Kev. 00:40:23.119 --> 00:40:30.239 Sailors aboard the USS Arkansas began holding like organized entertainment evenings. 00:40:30.880 --> 00:40:33.519 Um they called them happy hours, right? 00:40:34.000 --> 00:40:41.599 And it was, you know, like boxing, bare knuckle boxing, um singing, drinking, just general merriments and stuff like that. 00:40:41.760 --> 00:40:43.840 A bit of downtime, a bit of downtime, yeah. 00:40:44.159 --> 00:40:48.079 Now there weren't sessions where I have to like you know, piled into ships bar and got absolutely hammers. 00:40:48.320 --> 00:40:52.000 It was just a coming together, it was a happy hour, you know, on board ship. 00:40:52.079 --> 00:40:53.840 It's it's rough. 00:40:54.000 --> 00:40:54.480 Yeah. 00:40:54.719 --> 00:40:56.320 So this was happy hour. 00:40:56.400 --> 00:40:59.280 It was supposed to lift the spirits of the crew. 00:40:59.920 --> 00:41:02.079 Um, and it went on from there. 00:41:02.159 --> 00:41:04.320 There's links to prohibition as well. 00:41:04.480 --> 00:41:13.280 Um, not necessarily prohibition itself, but um, people, as we know, found ways of going to finding places for uh alcohol and all that. 00:41:13.440 --> 00:41:15.199 The speak easies and places like that, yeah. 00:41:15.519 --> 00:41:23.440 But people would also go to other people's houses for dinner or whatever, or they might go to the theatre where alcohol's not allowed. 00:41:23.599 --> 00:41:29.360 But what they would do, they'd find like a little gin joint somewhere for a quick hour before the theatre. 00:41:29.679 --> 00:41:30.480 That'd be their happy hour. 00:41:30.639 --> 00:41:31.679 And that's their happy hour. 00:41:31.760 --> 00:41:32.400 Yeah. 00:41:32.639 --> 00:41:35.280 So it's also got little links with that as well. 00:41:35.440 --> 00:41:42.639 And then it's just basically evolved from the and the UK have just taken it on, as we always do, and abused it. 00:41:42.800 --> 00:41:43.760 And abused it. 00:41:44.480 --> 00:41:50.639 Do you know they've actually banned happy hour in uh in some countries and they've limited happy hour in Scotland? 00:41:50.960 --> 00:41:53.679 You know they've extended it in others, it's now happy two hours. 00:41:53.840 --> 00:41:56.000 Yeah, happy days in some places. 00:41:56.480 --> 00:41:58.639 Um Scotland, they've banned it. 00:41:58.719 --> 00:41:58.880 Really? 00:41:59.119 --> 00:42:07.920 So you can't uh you can't sell like you know, big like round of shots

and drinks promotions that promote excessive drinking within a short space of time. 00:42:08.159 --> 00:42:08.320 Yeah. 00:42:08.480 --> 00:42:09.280 Well, it makes sense. 00:42:09.519 --> 00:42:10.800 Binge drinking, basically. 00:42:10.960 --> 00:42:11.119 Yeah. 00:42:11.280 --> 00:42:12.800 So they're trying to do that around and about. 00:42:13.039 --> 00:42:16.000 I mean, do a happy hour where you get a bowl of chips or something like that. 00:42:16.239 --> 00:42:17.440 Well, that's not good either, is it? 00:42:17.679 --> 00:42:18.000 I don't know. 00:42:18.159 --> 00:42:19.360 We got a beer and a bowl of chips. 00:42:19.440 --> 00:42:19.679 Come on. 00:42:19.840 --> 00:42:21.360 Oh, I thought you meant instead of the beer. 00:42:21.519 --> 00:42:21.840 No. 00:42:22.079 --> 00:42:23.920 If it was a beer and a bowl of chips, I mean. 00:42:24.159 --> 00:42:25.679 Yeah, but you you totally in. 00:42:26.000 --> 00:42:31.039 What I mean is though, for that one hour, you can buy a bowl of chips for 50p. 00:42:31.760 --> 00:42:34.639 Yeah, and it's soaked the alcohol off, you wouldn't get us pissed. 00:42:34.960 --> 00:42:36.800 And you like to stay longer and drink more? 00:42:37.519 --> 00:42:38.960 May put extra salt on the chips. 00:42:39.199 --> 00:42:39.679 Absolutely. 00:42:39.760 --> 00:42:46.159 That's why you have salted peanuts on bars and things where you used to before everyone got nut allergies, but Yeah, true, crisps now. 00:42:46.400 --> 00:42:46.480 Yeah. 00:42:46.800 --> 00:42:47.440 Anyway, price. 00:42:48.079 --> 00:42:49.119 So we're gonna move on from that. 00:42:52.719 --> 00:42:54.320 Fetish factoid. 00:42:54.639 --> 00:42:57.519 I was given something a little while back now. 00:42:58.239 --> 00:43:00.400 Fetish factoid or dangly bit? 00:43:01.440 --> 00:43:03.599 Okay, so we're gonna do a dangly bit. 00:43:05.920 --> 00:43:08.000 It's gonna be one of them days today, Vic. 00:43:08.559 --> 00:43:11.679 I was given something by our friend Preston. 00:43:14.559 --> 00:43:16.719 He went and did a job in somebody's house. 00:43:17.760 --> 00:43:19.519 He's a heating engineer. 00:43:22.000 --> 00:43:23.599 He's a heating engineer. 00:43:24.000 --> 00:43:28.960 And uh the person had these boxes, and um he he asked if you'd have them. 00:43:29.039 --> 00:43:31.360 I don't believe what the deal was. 00:43:31.679 --> 00:43:35.119 But these are Paragon first aid cases. 00:43:35.360 --> 00:43:36.800 Oh, it's beautiful. 00:43:37.039 --> 00:43:37.679 Yeah. 00:43:38.559 --> 00:43:40.960 And it's like something from World War II. 00:43:41.119 --> 00:43:45.440 Yeah, and it's still got everything in it. 00:43:45.760 --> 00:43:46.400 Wow! 00:43:47.280 --> 00:43:50.000 So this is September 1930. 00:43:50.159 --> 00:43:51.280 This was produced. 00:43:51.920 --> 00:44:01.119 Um, and it says it's first aid kit treatment of minor injuries, and the other box, which I'll get out in a minute, hasn't got all the bits in it, but it's Smells of chloride. 00:44:01.280 --> 00:44:03.039 I was gonna say, can I smell that one? 00:44:04.960 --> 00:44:06.639 Oh, that just smells of dust. 00:44:08.639 --> 00:44:09.599 Smell that one. 00:44:11.519 --> 00:44:12.719 Can you see that? 00:44:13.039 --> 00:44:14.079 Look at that. 00:44:14.639 --> 00:44:15.360 It's great, isn't it? 00:44:15.519 --> 00:44:16.079 It's great, isn't it? 00:44:16.400 --> 00:44:16.960 Yeah, I smell that. 00:44:17.119 --> 00:44:18.159 Stick your nose in there. 00:44:18.719 --> 00:44:19.920 Oh, you're smelling from here. 00:44:21.760 --> 00:44:22.559 Chlorine. 00:44:23.599 --> 00:44:23.920 Oh. 00:44:24.559 --> 00:44:25.440 Do you like it? 00:44:25.760 --> 00:44:27.199 I don't like it, but it's there. 00:44:27.360 --> 00:44:28.480 It's medical, innit? 00:44:29.360 --> 00:44:30.559 Oh gosh, yeah. 00:44:30.960 --> 00:44:32.480 That box is only 100 years old. 00:44:32.559 --> 00:44:33.840 There still smells of what was in it. 00:44:34.000 --> 00:44:36.480 Do you know my granddad had something that smelt like this? 00:44:38.960 --> 00:44:40.960 That that smells like his old. 00:44:41.199 --> 00:44:43.760 Do you remember I told you about his um upholstery shop? 00:44:43.920 --> 00:44:44.159 Yeah. 00:44:44.320 --> 00:44:46.400 That smells like the cellar of his apolster shop. 00:44:46.719 --> 00:44:46.880 Really? 00:44:47.039 --> 00:44:47.199 Yeah. 00:44:47.440 --> 00:44:48.960 That's brought back a massive memory. 00:44:49.360 --> 00:44:51.840 So it's probably when he was cleaning down like the leather or something. 00:44:52.239 --> 00:44:52.800 Yeah. 00:44:53.360 --> 00:44:54.400 So um yeah. 00:44:55.039 --> 00:44:55.360 Beautiful. 00:44:55.599 --> 00:44:55.760 Yeah. 00:44:55.840 --> 00:44:58.159 So I've got two of them, they've got the labels on the bottom. 00:44:58.320 --> 00:45:02.320 It's got like a little, it says uh paragon first aid case there. 00:45:02.639 --> 00:45:03.920 But sorry, sorry. 00:45:04.159 --> 00:45:06.559 But this one, I'm just going to show you a little bit more. 00:45:06.719 --> 00:45:10.639 So, and I'm going to explain it for those who um aren't watching. 00:45:10.880 --> 00:45:18.079 So, the box itself is probably um about um 30 centimetres long, something like that. 00:45:18.559 --> 00:45:21.280 Um, like an A4, a little bit smaller than an A4. 00:45:21.519 --> 00:45:25.599 And it's probably about six inches, five, six inches deep. 00:45:25.920 --> 00:45:29.039 It says paragon case on the top of it. 00:45:29.199 --> 00:45:32.800 It's got like two little hooks on the side where you open it up. 00:45:33.039 --> 00:45:41.679 And it's got several compartments and like a little glass, no, no, it did have glass, I had like a little glass panel in here, uh, in the in the lid, sorry. 00:45:41.920 --> 00:45:49.280 And it's got um first aid treatment of minor injuries, and then what the injuries are scratch or slight wound, burn or scald, an acid burn. 00:45:49.519 --> 00:45:50.480 Fucking hell. 00:45:50.639 -->

00:45:54.239 Um, and it it had all sorts in here, had iodine and all sorts. 00:45:54.559 --> 00:45:56.800 So I'm just gonna get a few of the bits out. 00:45:56.960 --> 00:46:00.960 So this one here it was in like a little box. 00:46:01.199 --> 00:46:02.880 It's got like original bandages. 00:46:08.320 --> 00:46:08.559 Yeah. 00:46:08.719 --> 00:46:13.920 So it's got lots and lots of little bandages in there, little packs of bandages. 00:46:14.400 --> 00:46:19.440 Um, it's got a sling, so if you've had like a broken arm or whatever. 00:46:19.920 --> 00:46:22.000 Uh it's got like ointments. 00:46:22.800 --> 00:46:26.639 A little uh barassic ointments. 00:46:29.360 --> 00:46:32.559 Um more ointment. 00:46:32.800 --> 00:46:33.440 No, I can't open that. 00:46:33.679 --> 00:46:34.320 You can't open it. 00:46:34.639 --> 00:46:39.519 It's got like a little tube with some kind of ointments, it's still got ointments in it, but it darnt. 00:46:39.920 --> 00:46:44.000 So boric ointment prepared by boots. 00:46:44.480 --> 00:46:45.280 Slimy still. 00:46:45.519 --> 00:46:46.719 Prepared by boots. 00:46:47.840 --> 00:46:49.679 It's got the old boots thing on it. 00:46:49.920 --> 00:46:52.639 Oh my god, it ha it has. 00:46:53.440 --> 00:46:54.960 You can't see, can you? 00:46:55.280 --> 00:46:56.559 Oh wow. 00:46:56.880 --> 00:46:57.280 Yeah. 00:46:57.519 --> 00:46:59.360 And the logo is still the same. 00:46:59.599 --> 00:46:59.760 Yeah. 00:47:02.559 --> 00:47:07.760 And I believe this is like a little iodine pencil. 00:47:08.480 --> 00:47:11.360 It's actually got something still on the bottom of it. 00:47:12.400 --> 00:47:12.880 Yeah. 00:47:14.159 --> 00:47:20.719 So this is like nearly a hundred years old, and it's still got all these little bits and bobs in there. 00:47:21.360 --> 00:47:23.119 Um, why have I got it? 00:47:23.280 --> 00:47:29.360 I just I just want to keep this for posterity and a little bit of history. 00:47:29.599 --> 00:47:29.920 Yeah. 00:47:30.960 --> 00:47:38.320 This is still in one piece for the treatment of uh nasal catar and hay fever. 00:47:38.559 --> 00:47:40.079 It's a little nasal juice. 00:47:40.719 --> 00:47:42.239 It looks like a sausage dog. 00:47:43.039 --> 00:47:44.639 Looks like a crack pipe. 00:47:49.199 --> 00:47:51.039 I was being all innocent there then. 00:47:51.280 --> 00:47:52.079 Yeah, but you thought it. 00:47:52.159 --> 00:47:52.880 I didn't. 00:47:54.000 --> 00:47:55.119 I fucking didn't. 00:47:55.280 --> 00:47:57.199 I saw that and saw sausage dog. 00:47:57.440 --> 00:47:58.239 You see crack pipe. 00:47:58.400 --> 00:47:58.880 Well, there you go. 00:47:59.039 --> 00:48:00.000 Say no fucking money. 00:48:00.239 --> 00:48:02.960 No, I can see the sausage, the sausage dog, or Nessie. 00:48:03.119 --> 00:48:04.559 Nessie, it looks like Nessie. 00:48:04.719 --> 00:48:13.679 So for those who aren't watching, it Kev's holding up a crack pipe that looks like Nessie, but it's actually a nasal douche. 00:48:14.559 --> 00:48:15.920 It's still in one piece, Kev. 00:48:16.079 --> 00:48:18.079 I mean, that is what a crack pipe looks like, isn't it? 00:48:18.320 --> 00:48:21.920 Because I've never used one, I wouldn't know, but that's how I would imagine. 00:48:22.159 --> 00:48:24.400 I've seen uh break and break and bad. 00:48:24.559 --> 00:48:25.119 I haven't. 00:48:25.280 --> 00:48:27.440 Yeah, and the smoke crack on that. 00:48:27.599 --> 00:48:30.239 So, yeah, nasal douche is still in there. 00:48:30.480 --> 00:48:33.360 There's just all sorts of little bits and bobs. 00:48:33.440 --> 00:48:36.639 And when Preston saw it, he was like, Oh, I know just the person. 00:48:36.800 --> 00:48:37.760 You know what's missing out there. 00:48:38.000 --> 00:48:38.559 Who would love this? 00:48:38.639 --> 00:48:38.800 Go on. 00:48:39.039 --> 00:48:40.159 Carbolic soap. 00:48:40.320 --> 00:48:40.880 It is, yeah. 00:48:41.119 --> 00:48:47.440 Is it so if anybody breaks their arm or needs a bandage, they can have a 100-year-old one. 00:48:47.599 --> 00:48:48.400 Oh, I wouldn't use that. 00:48:50.480 --> 00:48:51.920 Great triangular bandage. 00:48:52.239 --> 00:48:52.639 Wow. 00:48:52.880 --> 00:48:56.079 So this box predates the NHS. 00:48:56.320 --> 00:48:57.519 It does, yeah. 00:48:58.559 --> 00:49:02.000 So this probably would have been, you know, kept in the home. 00:49:02.639 --> 00:49:04.639 As like a little first aid box in the home. 00:49:04.800 --> 00:49:05.039 Yeah. 00:49:05.280 --> 00:49:09.360 And you know, to treat mild ailment uh minor ailments and stuff like that. 00:49:09.519 --> 00:49:13.760 Uh, before you could just go along to your NHS GP three weeks after. 00:49:14.159 --> 00:49:16.239 Because going to the doctor would have cost you a fortune. 00:49:16.400 --> 00:49:16.960 Oh, yeah. 00:49:17.199 --> 00:49:24.960 I think they had some free hospitals back in the day, um, but I think you went there if you're really ill and were dying because people were just dying there. 00:49:25.039 --> 00:49:26.480 You pick up all sorts. 00:49:27.039 --> 00:49:30.400 Um, I actually I've been doing my family tree for a little while. 00:49:30.559 --> 00:49:34.400 Um, I found out there quite a few of my relatives on my own side were in the workhouse. 00:49:34.719 --> 00:49:35.039 Really? 00:49:35.280 --> 00:49:36.559 It doesn't surprise me. 00:49:37.280 --> 00:49:41.280 We don't know what a workhouse was, a poor house you have to be in most countries, I think. 00:49:41.440 --> 00:49:43.760 Um but yeah, they were they were in the poor house. 00:49:43.920 --> 00:49:48.559 Are you are your um descendants and ancestors um from Ireland? 00:49:48.800 --> 00:49:49.039 Yeah. 00:49:49.119 --> 00:49:49.440 Yeah. 00:49:49.599 --> 00:49:53.679 So I actually um I went for everywhere, but Jim is obviously Irish. 00:49:54.000 --> 00:49:55.280 Yeah, Jim is, you can tell Jim is. 00:49:55.519 --> 00:49:56.480 Yeah, directly. 00:49:56.719 --> 00:50:00.639 Um and I was like, yeah, it's Irish in

there somewhere, some South American. 00:50:00.719 --> 00:50:02.159 Uh I didn't really know. 00:50:02.880 --> 00:50:05.760 So actually I've got more Irish in my family than Jim. 00:50:06.079 --> 00:50:06.559 Really? 00:50:06.800 --> 00:50:07.119 Yeah. 00:50:07.280 --> 00:50:10.639 So three of my grandparents are Irish. 00:50:11.119 --> 00:50:11.920 I didn't know. 00:50:12.000 --> 00:50:12.800 I didn't have a clue. 00:50:12.960 --> 00:50:16.239 I've not met all my grandparents or great grandparents and all that. 00:50:16.320 --> 00:50:18.000 You know, met one great grandma. 00:50:18.320 --> 00:50:24.639 So, and uh one of then one of the Irish grandparents is actually married to somebody who's Scottish from Edinburgh. 00:50:25.840 --> 00:50:28.800 Um so I'm like a bit of a Celt, really. 00:50:29.119 --> 00:50:33.519 Well, you know I'm Venetian, so you fuck a would be Venetian. 00:50:33.840 --> 00:50:37.199 Anyway, right, so we've been gabbing for absolutely ages, haven't we? 00:50:37.360 --> 00:50:37.840 Yeah, we have. 00:50:37.920 --> 00:50:39.199 Shall I do a buzzer? 00:50:39.519 --> 00:50:41.519 I'm wondering what I should do next because I've got a second. 00:50:41.679 --> 00:50:43.519 You've got your segment, I want you to do your segment. 00:50:43.599 --> 00:50:44.239 Just do it. 00:50:44.400 --> 00:50:49.199 No, but I uh I've also got a lazy lobosomy and a fetish factoid. 00:50:49.519 --> 00:50:51.599 So I'm like, what do we do? 00:50:51.760 --> 00:50:55.280 I can do my segment uh another time. 00:50:56.320 --> 00:51:00.320 Do you think we've been interesting enough to go on to our Lady Lobosomy and Fetish Factoid? 00:51:00.400 --> 00:51:00.800 I think we have. 00:51:00.960 --> 00:51:01.840 We probably have, yeah. 00:51:02.000 --> 00:51:03.440 I think we've been interesting enough, haven't we? 00:51:03.599 --> 00:51:04.480 Don't need to hear my biggest. 00:51:04.639 --> 00:51:13.199 It doesn't really matter because you've got me in my hat, so it's about me this episode. 00:51:14.400 --> 00:51:16.480 Oh, I got the look! 00:51:16.719 --> 00:51:17.119 You didn't. 00:51:17.280 --> 00:51:17.920 No, you didn't. 00:51:18.000 --> 00:51:19.280 You didn't because I didn't look at you. 00:51:19.519 --> 00:51:22.239 No, but you were looking at the camera and gave me the look. 00:51:23.039 --> 00:51:23.599 Anyway. 00:51:23.840 --> 00:51:25.039 I'm alright with it. 00:51:25.519 --> 00:51:26.400 Anyway. 00:51:27.440 --> 00:51:28.480 I'll love your heart. 00:51:28.559 --> 00:51:30.000 I'll fucking love your heart. 00:51:30.159 --> 00:51:31.199 I love my hat. 00:51:32.719 --> 00:51:34.320 Shall I do it again then? 00:51:34.719 --> 00:51:35.039 Yeah. 00:51:35.280 --> 00:51:36.639 And do a howdy as well. 00:51:36.880 --> 00:51:37.760 Howdy, partner. 00:51:39.840 --> 00:51:40.960 Sorry, ma'am. 00:51:41.119 --> 00:51:41.920 Oh my god. 00:51:42.159 --> 00:51:45.519 Anyway, so, dear Lady Lobotomy. 00:51:45.920 --> 00:51:50.159 My daughter recently told me that she's into BDSM. 00:51:50.400 --> 00:51:57.280 I was taken aback at first until she said that she saw me tied in someone else's photo on Fat Life. 00:51:57.679 --> 00:51:58.400 Oops. 00:51:58.639 --> 00:52:03.920 I'd given consent for the photo to be shared as I didn't think for one minute that she would be on there. 00:52:04.079 --> 00:52:09.119 I was tagged in the photo, but she said she didn't look at my profile as it felt invasive. 00:52:09.360 --> 00:52:14.400 I'm 67 and I've actually been into BDSM for decades. 00:52:15.119 --> 00:52:20.079 I've had several BDSM partners, one of whom was her father, who's now past. 00:52:21.039 --> 00:52:22.639 How much do I tell her? 00:52:22.800 --> 00:52:32.320 It's opened up a conversation and I've tiptoed carefully, but do I take the opportunity to tell her about all about my amazing other life, or would that be crossing a boundary? 00:52:32.480 --> 00:52:36.480 My kinky friends are giving me conflicting advice, so I thought I'd ask your opinion. 00:52:36.880 --> 00:52:38.880 Thanks for your time and keep up the great work. 00:52:38.960 --> 00:52:41.199 You have no idea how much difference you will make. 00:52:41.360 --> 00:52:42.880 Lots of love, name a missage. 00:52:43.039 --> 00:52:45.440 So she's been seen on Fat Life by her daughter. 00:52:45.920 --> 00:52:49.039 This woman's 67, so you know, she's not a kid. 00:52:49.280 --> 00:52:54.400 Um, the daughter hasn't seen anything else apart from this photograph, so as far as she's concerned, it could have been a one-off. 00:52:55.519 --> 00:52:58.960 Um, the daughter said that she's also into BDSM. 00:52:59.039 --> 00:53:03.039 It's opened up a conversation, um, but she doesn't know how far to go. 00:53:03.679 --> 00:53:04.960 Have the conversation. 00:53:05.280 --> 00:53:09.760 You have the experience, you have the knowledge. 00:53:10.000 --> 00:53:12.719 Um I don't know much about BDSM. 00:53:12.800 --> 00:53:23.519 What I know is what I've learned from you, and all I can say is if you want her to enjoy what you've enjoyed because you've enjoyed it, right? 00:53:23.760 --> 00:53:25.760 Why would you hold that back from her? 00:53:25.840 --> 00:53:33.360 Yeah, give her the tools that only you can pass on to her to keep her safe. 00:53:33.599 --> 00:53:33.920 Yep. 00:53:34.079 --> 00:53:34.480 Right? 00:53:34.719 --> 00:53:37.920 So just have the conversation, the conversation will lead itself. 00:53:38.000 --> 00:53:50.480 Yeah, she'll have her own questions for you, just answer them all to your best ability, within your own knowledge, don't hold anything back because you are who you are. 00:53:50.719 --> 00:53:55.679 You know, she might be really happy to hear about a dad who's also into it, you know. 00:53:55.920 --> 00:53:57.760 She's obviously found this. 00:53:58.079 --> 00:54:00.400 You're the best person to guide her. 00:54:00.559 --> 00:54:00.960 Yeah. 00:54:01.199 --> 00:54:02.000 I agree. 00:54:02.239 --> 00:54:03.039 I agree. 00:54:03.360

--> 00:54:12.800 So if this daughter was not into BDSM and had stumbled somehow or somebody's shown her a photograph, it'd be a completely different conversation. 00:54:12.960 --> 00:54:13.360 Yes. 00:54:13.599 --> 00:54:20.480 And also, you know, the mum's allowed a private life, and she doesn't even have to have a conversation at all if she doesn't want to with somebody who's not into BDSM. 00:54:20.559 --> 00:54:24.719 However, the daughter is into BDSM and is on fat life. 00:54:24.800 --> 00:54:28.400 She's an active kickster, she's not just somebody who's thinking about it. 00:54:28.800 --> 00:54:30.480 Um, and so I agree. 00:54:30.800 --> 00:54:35.760 I don't think she needs to just you know come up with all the water and all of detail, sexy stuff and all. 00:54:36.320 --> 00:54:36.719 Not at all. 00:54:36.960 --> 00:54:39.039 Let the conversation go its own way. 00:54:39.280 --> 00:54:41.199 And I would take a lead from the daughter. 00:54:41.280 --> 00:54:47.199 So, you know, if they're if they're having a conversation and she's asking those sorts of questions, answer them honestly. 00:54:47.440 --> 00:54:54.320 And if she isn't asking the awkward questions, but you think maybe she wants to know more, just say that I'm actually willing to talk about this. 00:54:54.400 --> 00:54:59.519 If you've got anything that you want to ask about me past, I'm really willing to talk about her. 00:54:59.599 --> 00:55:00.719 So you ask away. 00:55:00.880 --> 00:55:19.599 Yeah, because you'll also you'll also be seen completely different in your daughter's eyes with a lot more respect than she probably had for you beforehand, because she'll have one level of respect for you because you're a mum, yeah, but she'll take that to another level and she'll also think you're pretty bloody cool. 00:55:19.840 --> 00:55:20.239 I think so. 00:55:20.559 --> 00:55:21.039 I think so. 00:55:21.280 --> 00:55:21.840 I think so. 00:55:22.000 --> 00:55:24.559 And I mean this hasn't all got to be done in one sitting either. 00:55:24.719 --> 00:55:27.599 You know, these sorts of conversations evolve over a period of time. 00:55:27.679 --> 00:55:31.199 Yeah, I don't think you should try and have these conversations in one sitting. 00:55:31.440 --> 00:55:43.039 There's so much good stuff to tell, nurture, enjoy, you know, take your time with this and you know, tell her all the good bits and get excited over it because she's into it. 00:55:43.199 --> 00:55:49.519 You know, she needs to see that at 67 you can still enjoy BDSM, still get excited over it. 00:55:49.679 --> 00:55:55.760 Um, and it doesn't have to be something that you need to be embarrassed about at all, especially because she's into it. 00:55:55.840 --> 00:55:56.159 Yeah. 00:55:56.400 --> 00:56:04.320 I think this actually, I don't know what your relationship is like with your daughter, but I think this could actually bring you even closer. 00:56:04.400 --> 00:56:05.039 Yeah. 00:56:05.360 --> 00:56:12.400 Um, if it doesn't, I think at the very least, it might give you um a mutual respect of one another. 00:56:12.559 --> 00:56:17.039 But I guess that you're close because she's actually told you she's seen you on Fat Life. 00:56:17.280 --> 00:56:17.920 Yeah. 00:56:18.400 --> 00:56:24.079 Um, so actually, um, I'm quite excited for the conversations to come. 00:56:24.400 --> 00:56:28.639 I really like the fact that you've got a daughter who's really open-minded like you are. 00:56:29.119 --> 00:56:33.519 Um, thank you for asking us the question because you've been getting this conflict and advice. 00:56:33.679 --> 00:56:42.639 I understand why some people give you conflict and advice because if they're not into BDSM uh themselves or not as kinky as you, they might say it in a slightly different way. 00:56:42.800 --> 00:56:49.199 But I think this is an opportunity to make some real connections with your daughter in a way that a lot of people don't have. 00:56:49.440 --> 00:56:49.679 Yeah. 00:56:49.920 --> 00:56:52.239 Plus, you can do things together, you know? 00:56:52.559 --> 00:57:01.039 Not necessarily, oh no, no, not that sort of stuff, but you can go along to is it um munches and things like that together and just be there together. 00:57:01.199 --> 00:57:06.159 You don't have to play and do things like that, but you can socialise together. 00:57:06.559 --> 00:57:12.639 She can then make friends with your friends, who she can then see more trust in and things like that. 00:57:12.800 --> 00:57:14.159 I think it's a great opportunity. 00:57:14.320 --> 00:57:15.519 Yeah, I do, I do. 00:57:15.679 --> 00:57:17.119 I think this is a very positive thing. 00:57:17.199 --> 00:57:22.239 I think once you've got over the shock, because it's probably still a bit new at the moment, she hasn't long contacted me. 00:57:22.480 --> 00:57:28.639 Um, I think once you've got over the shock and you start talking and you realize it's not awkward, I think it's just gonna flare. 00:57:28.880 --> 00:57:31.519 Yeah, but let the conversation guide itself. 00:57:31.760 --> 00:57:34.719 Yeah, yeah, follow the conversation, don't force the conversation. 00:57:34.960 --> 00:57:36.079 No, no, that's it. 00:57:36.239 --> 00:57:38.000 And if it dries up, leave it for another time. 00:57:38.079 --> 00:57:39.679 Yeah, like right, just come to a natural end. 00:57:39.760 --> 00:57:39.920 Yeah. 00:57:40.000 --> 00:57:40.559 What's for tea? 00:57:40.639 --> 00:57:40.800 You know? 00:57:40.960 --> 00:57:47.440 Yeah, she might have a question in six weeks' time that says, Oh mum, did you ever do and you say, Oh yes, dear, I did, and blah di blah de blah. 00:57:47.599 --> 00:57:48.480 Yeah, absolutely. 00:57:48.639 --> 00:57:52.000 Yeah, got whacked all over the place, black and blue in front of a big crowd of people. 00:57:52.159 --> 00:57:57.119 Yeah, but more importantly, it's about safety, consent. 00:57:57.760 --> 00:57:59.840 Yeah, show that show her that. 00:57:59.920 --> 00:58:00.960 Yeah,

show her that. 00:58:01.440 --> 00:58:04.639 Yeah, so I hope that has helped, my love. 00:58:05.119 --> 00:58:11.440 And um go you for still uh being well into BDSM at 67. 00:58:11.599 --> 00:58:16.719 Not that it's old, but we've got an awful lot of younger listeners uh at this podcast. 00:58:16.960 --> 00:58:26.800 Our listeners range actually generally uh between 25 and 50, but we do have people outside of that, and you know, at 25, I might have thought, God, 67, still at it. 00:58:27.199 --> 00:58:29.679 But you know, when you're at this age, you're like 67. 00:58:30.239 --> 00:58:31.840 So a daughter must be in her 40s. 00:58:32.239 --> 00:58:35.360 Shouldn't say older daughter was, but I'm saying thinking 40s, yeah. 00:58:35.519 --> 00:58:36.880 Yeah, she must be in her 40s. 00:58:37.039 --> 00:58:40.000 So, you know, for all she knows, a daughter could have been on a journey for years. 00:58:40.159 --> 00:58:42.159 Yeah, she could have decades as well. 00:58:42.400 --> 00:58:44.960 They might have people they know that they don't know that they know. 00:58:45.519 --> 00:58:46.320 Maybe. 00:58:46.559 --> 00:58:48.880 So um let us know how you get on. 00:58:48.960 --> 00:58:52.320 I'd really be interested to hear how the conversations go. 00:58:52.719 --> 00:58:56.159 Um, and yeah, how long has your daughter been interviewing? 00:58:56.239 --> 00:58:56.800 I want to know. 00:58:57.119 --> 00:59:00.719 Yeah, tell us we need more details. 00:59:01.760 --> 00:59:03.920 Right, before I do my next thing, hang on. 00:59:04.239 --> 00:59:05.599 A bit of ASMR. 00:59:12.559 --> 00:59:13.840 Try to get the bubbles in. 00:59:14.159 --> 00:59:15.360 What are you laughing at? 00:59:15.599 --> 00:59:17.519 Your face when you did it, you just went. 00:59:20.400 --> 00:59:23.280 Before I move on to me, very short's dangly bit. 00:59:23.440 --> 00:59:26.880 I just want to give you an update on um Better's factoid. 00:59:27.119 --> 00:59:27.920 What have I just said? 00:59:28.159 --> 00:59:28.719 Dangly bit. 00:59:28.880 --> 00:59:30.320 Oh, I fucking didn't, did I? 00:59:30.719 --> 00:59:31.039 Did I? 00:59:31.519 --> 00:59:34.320 You did you're all over the place today. 00:59:34.400 --> 00:59:35.199 It's this hat, isn't it? 00:59:35.280 --> 00:59:36.159 I'm distracting you. 00:59:36.400 --> 00:59:39.199 I don't know what it is because I feel it's me because I look so great. 00:59:39.360 --> 00:59:42.159 I feel like oh I okay, I know why I've said dangliber. 00:59:43.119 --> 00:59:45.119 Do you want to know why I've just said dangliber? 00:59:45.440 --> 00:59:46.559 Is it on your paper? 00:59:46.880 --> 00:59:47.840 Dangliber. 00:59:50.239 --> 00:59:54.159 So I've I've okay, that's why I typed Dangliber, and now I've just said Dangliber. 00:59:54.400 --> 00:59:57.199 Before I do that, episode 155 part two. 00:59:57.599 --> 01:00:10.320 Um, we did a Lady Lobotomy, and it was a lady of 23 who had um contacted me about her partner of three years who didn't like

the fact that she had two sex toys. 01:00:10.480 --> 01:00:11.039 Come on. 01:00:13.679 --> 01:00:14.719 That was two farts. 01:00:15.280 --> 01:00:17.039 It sounded like one, just pushing one out. 01:00:17.360 --> 01:00:17.679 Yeah. 01:00:17.920 --> 01:00:18.960 Um, do you remember this? 01:00:19.039 --> 01:00:20.800 Have you seen episode 155 part two? 01:00:20.960 --> 01:00:21.920 The last episode yet? 01:00:22.079 --> 01:00:23.199 Um, I'm halfway through it. 01:00:23.360 --> 01:00:25.119 Okay, so Lady Lebossomy. 01:00:25.280 --> 01:00:28.880 Um so a fella doesn't like the fact that she's got two sex toys. 01:00:28.960 --> 01:00:34.159 He said from day one that he didn't want her to have sex toys, didn't like them, she didn't need them, basically. 01:00:34.400 --> 01:00:34.960 Right. 01:00:35.199 --> 01:00:40.320 Um, he'd found two, he went absolutely ballistic and stopped talking to her and she wrote into me. 01:00:40.559 --> 01:00:41.519 Nob anyway. 01:00:41.679 --> 01:00:45.679 I want to give you all some feedback because um I was quite harsh. 01:00:45.840 --> 01:00:46.480 I was quite harsh. 01:00:46.719 --> 01:00:48.079 That sounds like someone who's very controlling. 01:00:48.480 --> 01:00:49.760 Red flag, mate, red flags. 01:00:49.840 --> 01:00:53.039 When I read the message out, there was four red flags and one message. 01:00:53.519 --> 01:01:07.440 Anyway, I contacted the the lady and uh we chatted, we chatted quite a lot, and um she she thanked me for the advice and she had a conversation with the boyfriend about the sex toys. 01:01:07.599 --> 01:01:09.039 So he's just a boyfriend, not husband, right? 01:01:09.360 --> 01:01:11.280 Boyfriend of three years, which only's 23, Kev. 01:01:11.360 --> 01:01:12.320 He's only young as well. 01:01:13.039 --> 01:01:17.280 And um, you know, she said that I should be able to do what I want to do with me and body and all that. 01:01:17.440 --> 01:01:19.519 You know, if I want sex toys, you know, you like. 01:01:20.320 --> 01:01:24.400 Anyway, apparently he went absolutely fucking nuts, and she left him. 01:01:24.639 --> 01:01:27.599 Good girl, good girl. 01:01:27.760 --> 01:01:36.480 Um, she didn't like the reaction, and some of the things that I said to her on the pause, it was like, this could be a downward spiral, this could just be the tip of the iceberg. 01:01:36.639 --> 01:01:38.000 There's just one way of controlling you. 01:01:38.320 --> 01:01:39.119 Yeah, it's a starting point. 01:01:39.199 --> 01:01:40.159 It's a starting point. 01:01:40.400 --> 01:01:45.280 And when we chatted, she said, actually, there's there's lots of little things that he tries to control. 01:01:45.519 --> 01:01:51.679 And then his reaction to this, it was like really jolted her, and she's like, Okay, I no longer actually feel safe. 01:01:51.760 --> 01:01:52.239 I'm gonna go. 01:01:52.639 --> 01:01:53.840 But don't go back. 01:01:54.079 --> 01:01:55.599 I don't think she will actually. 01:01:55.679 --> 01:01:57.920 I

think she got a bit shocked from his reaction. 01:01:58.000 --> 01:01:58.880 I don't think it was very nice. 01:01:59.039 --> 01:02:01.519 Yeah, but then the heart starts, I miss you, all of that. 01:02:01.760 --> 01:02:03.760 No, I don't I don't think so. 01:02:04.000 --> 01:02:06.000 I don't think so from our chats. 01:02:06.239 --> 01:02:16.159 So uh I'm really glad um that you know we got to have that chat and um that you feel happier now and you can wank away your love now. 01:02:16.480 --> 01:02:17.199 Guess some more. 01:02:17.360 --> 01:02:18.639 Guess some more, got a little collection. 01:02:18.960 --> 01:02:20.800 There's a whole website full of them. 01:02:20.960 --> 01:02:22.000 I was actually advised, never. 01:02:22.239 --> 01:02:26.480 Once we'd had the chat, we just had a little bit of a laugh then, and we were just chatting about sex toys. 01:02:26.639 --> 01:02:29.360 Advisor also sex toys bankrupt. 01:02:32.880 --> 01:02:35.280 Hey Steve, I don't need you anymore. 01:02:35.519 --> 01:02:36.880 I've got the rabbit. 01:02:39.840 --> 01:02:43.519 See, this is why I'm losing my shit today, because you're just not normal today. 01:02:43.679 --> 01:02:45.119 I know, you're different characters today. 01:02:45.360 --> 01:02:48.800 I know, I am, it's my different personality, but it does look fabulous. 01:02:48.880 --> 01:02:50.000 But I won't wear it again. 01:02:50.159 --> 01:02:55.679 So when I'm editing this thing, I'm gonna count how many times you've said that you look fabulous in that hat. 01:02:55.840 --> 01:02:56.480 Well, I do. 01:02:56.639 --> 01:02:59.760 I know, but you've said it a lot and you go, I'll just look fabulous. 01:02:59.920 --> 01:03:03.519 But don't you lot say that I don't because that'll really upset me. 01:03:03.760 --> 01:03:07.760 And we don't want to upset Kev and his little fucking feelings, do we? 01:03:10.400 --> 01:03:14.159 Anyway, we're gonna finish on a fetish factoid. 01:03:14.239 --> 01:03:15.440 Not the tangled thing. 01:03:17.519 --> 01:03:19.519 So, do you know? 01:03:19.760 --> 01:03:20.880 The muffin man. 01:03:26.079 --> 01:03:28.000 He lives down during a line. 01:03:28.159 --> 01:03:29.760 I was not expecting that. 01:03:35.920 --> 01:03:38.239 I'm full of surprises today. 01:03:38.559 --> 01:03:40.079 I've had my weed a bit. 01:03:47.199 --> 01:03:49.280 No one's in a car fixed straight today. 01:03:49.599 --> 01:03:51.519 I told you we're the curators of chaos. 01:03:53.119 --> 01:03:53.599 Chaos. 01:03:54.159 --> 01:03:55.840 I was not expecting that. 01:03:56.239 --> 01:03:57.760 Did you like it though? 01:04:05.119 --> 01:04:14.239 Can't speak I'm not gonna say till you know again, because you can't do it again and you're gonna set me off, so you know. 01:04:14.960 --> 01:04:22.800 What a shock top or shock topping is no idea. 01:04:23.360 --> 01:04:25.039 Okay shock topping. 01:04:25.280 --> 01:04:28.079 I think you've probably done it or experienced it. 01:04:28.800 --> 01:04:29.119 Maybe. 01:04:29.920 --> 01:04:30.480 I don't know. 01:04:30.559 --> 01:04:33.760 I think the more adventurous amongst us have done this. 01:04:34.000 --> 01:04:39.519 It sounds worse than it is shock topping, but let's say you're getting banged from behind. 01:04:39.760 --> 01:04:41.039 Yeah, I've had that. 01:04:43.440 --> 01:04:44.400 And want more. 01:04:44.639 --> 01:04:47.199 Yeah, I hear about it sometimes as well. 01:04:48.000 --> 01:04:50.480 That fucking diet breakfast, mate. 01:04:51.519 --> 01:04:53.599 The last breakfast the fucking tea tile. 01:04:54.159 --> 01:04:56.719 It's like, it's even me because I'll toast mind beyond both. 01:04:59.280 --> 01:05:01.920 That's right, it's like your message the other day in the chat. 01:05:02.159 --> 01:05:02.480 Which one? 01:05:02.800 --> 01:05:05.440 You're like, sorry guys, been busy. 01:05:06.880 --> 01:05:08.320 Didn't you get a fucking tea tile? 01:05:10.960 --> 01:05:24.800 Anyway, so let's say you're getting banged from behind and you're having a lovely time, and all of a sudden you get like shocked out of your blissful bumming moments, and you get whacked on the arse, like oh yeah, that has happened to me. 01:05:24.880 --> 01:05:36.400 Yeah, or you're getting like properly banged and they come behind you like like hands right your neck, like don't like choke you, but like put their hand like control, like and you're like, oh fuck, I wasn't expecting that because you weren't, you're not looking. 01:05:36.480 --> 01:05:38.320 Yeah, that shock topping. 01:05:38.639 --> 01:05:39.519 It can be quite nice. 01:05:39.679 --> 01:05:40.480 It is, yeah, yeah. 01:05:40.719 --> 01:05:42.079 Done the right way, you know. 01:05:42.239 --> 01:05:47.519 Um, or if you're like face to face, I quite like a bit of boob slapping. 01:05:47.599 --> 01:05:50.320 Everybody knows I like my boobs being touched in general, really. 01:05:50.639 --> 01:05:52.079 Gone into it in great detail, Kevin. 01:05:52.159 --> 01:05:53.119 Don't with your member episode. 01:05:53.199 --> 01:05:54.719 Maybe you had your ears closed for that one. 01:05:54.880 --> 01:05:55.519 Yeah, I probably did. 01:05:55.599 --> 01:05:56.079 Yeah, probably. 01:05:56.239 --> 01:06:01.840 You say if you're getting like you're face-to-face and you're banging, a bit of a boob slapping or expecting it. 01:06:02.079 --> 01:06:02.719 I like that. 01:06:02.960 --> 01:06:03.199 Okay. 01:06:03.360 --> 01:06:03.760 Yeah. 01:06:04.000 --> 01:06:08.880 And actually, sometimes um I don't keep my eyes open. 01:06:08.960 --> 01:06:11.679 Well, if Jim goes for it, I'm like, oh, wasn't expecting that. 01:06:11.760 --> 01:06:12.880 I was like, he's gonna do it again. 01:06:12.960 --> 01:06:14.800 I close my eyes, so I don't know when it's coming. 01:06:15.760 --> 01:06:17.440 Yeah, it's part of it. 01:06:17.679 --> 01:06:22.480 So I'm sure lots of you have done this in different ways, but you didn't know it had a name. 01:06:22.880 --> 01:06:23.920 It's called shock topping. 01:06:24.159 --> 01:06:25.280 Shock topping. 01:06:25.519 --> 01:06:25.920 Yeah. 01:06:26.079 --> 01:06:26.960 So there you go. 01:06:27.199 --> 01:06:27.760 Yeah. 01:06:28.880 --> 01:06:30.880 Thank God, thank God. 01:06:31.119 --> 01:06:35.679 That was a short fetish factoid because I could barely breathe. 01:06:37.199 --> 01:06:38.079 Thank you. 01:06:38.400 --> 01:06:41.280 Can you scream in an American type accent? 01:06:41.599 --> 01:06:41.920 No. 01:06:42.639 --> 01:06:43.920 I don't know how you would really. 01:06:44.079 --> 01:06:44.880 A deep south. 01:07:07.599 --> 01:07:07.840 Okay. 01:07:08.239 --> 01:07:09.440 You're gonna have to do the thing. 01:07:09.679 --> 01:07:10.719 You want me to do the thing? 01:07:10.880 --> 01:07:18.320 Because I can't believe it's as well. 01:07:18.559 --> 01:07:19.519 Yes, ma'am. 01:07:21.679 --> 01:07:24.719 If you're binge watching, put the candle on. 01:07:24.960 --> 01:07:26.400 We'll see you in five. 01:07:26.800 --> 01:07:29.519 If not, see you next week. 01:07:42.239 --> 01:07:44.000 And she's gone. 01:07:51.280 --> 01:07:56.719 And there we have it, another day, made message by listening to the creators of chaos. 01:07:57.119 --> 01:08:04.000 Thanks for dropping by, and if you enjoyed the show, we'd really appreciate you sharing and love the Panthercell podcast with your friends. 01:08:04.239 --> 01:08:17.680 Don't forget to give us a follow on our socials, maybe leave us some five-star reviews, and feel free to send us an email to Messi at the Panthercell Podcast.co.uk, or even interact us on Facebook because we love chat to you. 01:08:18.159 --> 01:08:25.439 Be sure to stop by next week because, as mommy says, I don't know where I'm going next, but I promise it will be boring. 01:08:25.760 --> 01:08:26.880 Catch you soon.