Transkrip penuh untuk Understanding Artificial Intelligence | AI | Scott and LaRae’s Guide to Its Power, Risks, and Promise revisited

00:02:23.090 --> 00:02:23.990 Four years old, yes. 39 00:02:25.050 --> 00:02:28.180 It really was. I mean, we've talked a lot about 40 00:02:28.900 --> 00:02:31.479 when we're going through life to kind of try and 41 00:02:31.520 --> 00:02:35.180 go back to the place where you so curious because 42 00:02:35.479 --> 00:02:39.659 when we get older, like you and I and all humanity, 43 00:02:39.680 --> 00:02:42.520 I think when we get older, we move away from 44 00:02:42.580 --> 00:02:46.659 that curiosity. We learn things and sometimes we think we 45 00:02:46.939 --> 00:02:50.580 know things. And getting to the space of knowing things 46 00:02:50.680 --> 00:02:54.759 kind of stops the learning, right? The curiosity is not 47 00:02:54.780 --> 00:02:58.680 there anymore. You don't continue to learn as you start 48 00:02:58.699 --> 00:03:01.750 to say, oh, I've experienced this, but things can be 49 00:03:01.830 --> 00:03:04.909 experienced from so many different perspectives. And I think that's, 50 00:03:05.530 --> 00:03:07.669 you know, that's one of the reasons the podcast is 51 00:03:07.729 --> 00:03:12.229 named what the podcast is named. It's the observatory. And 52 00:03:12.550 --> 00:03:14.509 that's more of an inner journey than a, than an 53 00:03:14.590 --> 00:03:15.189 outer journey. 54 00:03:15.229 --> 00:03:15.430 Right. 55 00:03:15.710 --> 00:03:15.990 Right. 56 00:03:16.789 --> 00:03:18.750 And just seeing, you know, we've talked a lot about 57 00:03:18.810 --> 00:03:23.240 you returning to the age of six and it was 58 00:03:23.340 --> 00:03:28.520 just super fun to see the age of four alive and, 59 00:03:30.120 --> 00:03:34.080 you know, well and curious and just his interactions with 60 00:03:34.719 --> 00:03:37.819 everyday life was just such a wonderful thing to watch. 61 00:03:38.080 --> 00:03:40.259 Well, it wasn't just him because he had a birthday 62 00:03:40.300 --> 00:03:44.319 party and all of his friends came, all these friends 63 00:03:44.340 --> 00:03:46.879 that he has known through school and neighbors and such. 64 00:03:47.189 --> 00:03:51.530 And I don't know, there's probably 15 or 20 kids there. Oh, yeah. 65 00:03:52.159 --> 00:03:55.430 And they were all just having such a good time. 66 00:03:55.969 --> 00:03:58.050 So much fun, and it was great to observe. They 67 00:03:58.090 --> 00:04:00.830 had a bubble machine and a bouncy house and all 68 00:04:00.849 --> 00:04:03.310 of the playground equipment. They could do whatever they wanted 69 00:04:03.370 --> 00:04:06.189 just free. It was cool to observe that. 70 00:04:06.349 --> 00:04:08.650 Yeah, and a great reminder for all of us to 71 00:04:09.409 --> 00:04:14.069 find that inner child where the lack of fear resides, 72 00:04:14.250 --> 00:04:19.490 the innovation, the creativity, and just where we can lean 73 00:04:19.509 --> 00:04:21.129 in to possibility. 74 00:04:21.449 --> 00:04:21.610 Yeah. 75 00:04:21.970 --> 00:04:26.519 And potentiality. And it was, it's

just been really fun 76 00:04:26.540 --> 00:04:30.139 to reflect on that. And it's, uh, it's a great 77 00:04:30.180 --> 00:04:31.839 way to tee up what we thought we would chat 78 00:04:31.879 --> 00:04:32.420 about today. 79 00:04:32.959 --> 00:04:37.500 Yeah. We're, you know, as the world changes and as 80 00:04:37.620 --> 00:04:43.240 technology changes and things, things, uh, I don't know. It's, 81 00:04:43.459 --> 00:04:46.930 it's really hard to know what your perspective really is 82 00:04:47.009 --> 00:04:49.870 from moment to moment because things change so much and 83 00:04:49.910 --> 00:04:53.360 it's easy to get caught up in the, the news 84 00:04:53.399 --> 00:04:56.459 of the day or whatever it is that's going on. And, 85 00:04:57.019 --> 00:04:58.720 you know, it might be on completely on the other 86 00:04:58.740 --> 00:05:02.290 side of the world. And it's really doesn't have an 87 00:05:02.350 --> 00:05:05.589 effect on me personally yet because of the way media 88 00:05:05.689 --> 00:05:08.750 is set up and all of the information that we're 89 00:05:08.790 --> 00:05:13.170 bombarded with daily. Sometimes, you know, your day to day 90 00:05:13.250 --> 00:05:17.089 activities become influenced by something that's happening, happening on the 91 00:05:17.129 --> 00:05:22.750 other side of the world. And the, the, as we 92 00:05:22.810 --> 00:05:26.629 lean into the experiences that we have and the way 93 00:05:26.689 --> 00:05:30.779 technology can be something that can assist us, it's easy 94 00:05:30.819 --> 00:05:33.879 to go into a place of fear. It's easy to 95 00:05:33.899 --> 00:05:36.680 go into a place of judgment. It's easy to go 96 00:05:36.740 --> 00:05:41.540 into a place of the unknown and say, well, this 97 00:05:42.040 --> 00:05:44.620 is a bad thing. And that's one of the things 98 00:05:44.660 --> 00:05:45.699 we want to talk about today. 99 00:05:46.060 --> 00:05:51.839 Right, because it is change and You know, I've spent 100 00:05:52.019 --> 00:05:55.079 a good part of my career in life dealing with change, 101 00:05:55.720 --> 00:05:58.839 helping organizations change. And the one thing that I know 102 00:05:58.899 --> 00:06:02.939 is change happens one person at a time. And it's 103 00:06:03.000 --> 00:06:06.750 because each of us come with a prescript of what 104 00:06:06.810 --> 00:06:09.750 change means for us. And some of us see change 105 00:06:10.029 --> 00:06:14.629 as an invitation. Others see change as a threat. And, 106 00:06:15.050 --> 00:06:18.529 you know, and some see change just as a real 107 00:06:18.589 --> 00:06:21.810 fear because of the unknown and its It is hard 108 00:06:21.850 --> 00:06:25.430 to navigate from something that's familiar, even if it isn't perfect, 109 00:06:25.529 --> 00:06:30.240 it's still familiar and to move from familiarity to unknown 110 00:06:30.800 --> 00:06:32.720 without some reservation. Yeah. 111 00:06:32.740 --> 00:06:36.079 And you know, you and I, uh, at the age 112 00:06:36.139 --> 00:06:40.259 that we are, we're boomers. And so we, we experienced 113 00:06:40.420 --> 00:06:44.029 life without the internet, uh, for a good portion of 114 00:06:44.089 --> 00:06:49.939 our lives actually. And, uh, going through our education and 115 00:06:50.000 --> 00:06:52.810 work and all of that. I remember I went into 116 00:06:52.850 --> 00:06:56.529 my first job in 1988 and I saw my first 117 00:06:56.610 --> 00:07:01.189 fax machine. And I was like, what is this? What 118 00:07:01.230 --> 00:07:03.569 kind of wizardry is this? You put a piece of 119 00:07:03.589 --> 00:07:04.500 paper in here and. 120 00:07:04.709 --> 00:07:06.079 You're really showing your age. 121 00:07:06.139 --> 00:07:10.019 Right? The piece of paper up here somewhere else. This 122 00:07:10.060 --> 00:07:13.620 was the beginning of those kinds of technologies where it 123 00:07:13.720 --> 00:07:19.949 opened up communication and the way to allow information to 124 00:07:19.990 --> 00:07:23.689 be passed through the ethers and through, you know, little 125 00:07:23.730 --> 00:07:27.389 wires just showing up. It was, it was fascinating to 126 00:07:27.420 --> 00:07:28.759 me when I first started working. 127 00:07:29.319 --> 00:07:32.180 Yeah. And I, I think, you know, my dad in 128 00:07:32.220 --> 00:07:35.480 his late eighties, you know, he was 90 when he passed, 129 00:07:35.519 --> 00:07:38.899 but I remember he didn't understand the technology, but he would, 130 00:07:39.170 --> 00:07:41.589 he would talk about it all the time, especially the cloud. 131 00:07:41.610 --> 00:07:42.569 The cloud. I remember. 132 00:07:42.670 --> 00:07:44.550 And he, he would say, well, can't you just pull 133 00:07:44.589 --> 00:07:47.250 it down from the cloud? Like, He got to the 134 00:07:47.290 --> 00:07:51.730 point where he really embraced the cloud and he just 135 00:07:51.769 --> 00:07:54.949 didn't understand why you couldn't pull anything down from the cloud. 136 00:07:55.810 --> 00:07:57.870 We'd be out and he'd want a picture that he 137 00:07:58.029 --> 00:08:01.009 remembered being on his phone and he'd say, well, can't 138 00:08:01.060 --> 00:08:02.800 we just find it in the cloud? Can't we just 139 00:08:02.810 --> 00:08:04.259 get it in the cloud? Or can't you put that 140 00:08:04.300 --> 00:08:07.040 in the cloud so I can get it later? And 141 00:08:07.120 --> 00:08:11.100 so he saw what it would bring to him, the 142 00:08:11.139 --> 00:08:13.379 advantage of it, right? Without it being fearful. 143 00:08:13.399 --> 00:08:13.680 Yeah. 144 00:08:14.209 --> 00:08:16.649 And I think sometimes that's the way we have to 145 00:08:17.149 --> 00:08:20.089 approach it is in more of a simplistic way and 146 00:08:20.170 --> 00:08:23.389 not go down so many rabbit holes right away of, oh, 147 00:08:23.449 --> 00:08:24.870 it could do this and it could do that and 148 00:08:24.889 --> 00:08:27.069 it could do, you know, and become fearful.

149 00:08:27.089 --> 00:08:31.800 All the negative things that could happen because of a technology. 150 00:08:32.360 --> 00:08:35.759 We still need to have discernment, but I also think 151 00:08:35.820 --> 00:08:44.429 we have to have wonder and trust and look at 152 00:08:44.450 --> 00:08:49.809 the possibility of what this could mean. So I think 153 00:08:49.830 --> 00:08:52.509 that's what we want to talk about. And specifically about 154 00:08:53.029 --> 00:08:56.370 some of the experiences we've had as we've leaned in 155 00:08:56.450 --> 00:09:01.120 with artificial intelligence. And I mean, we are just on the, 156 00:09:01.659 --> 00:09:04.879 we're just dipping our toes in. We're just having conversations 157 00:09:04.980 --> 00:09:08.860 and questions and queries to chat GPT And that's what 158 00:09:08.919 --> 00:09:11.960 people are saying. Most people use ChatGPT just like an 159 00:09:12.019 --> 00:09:16.909 advanced version of Google, where ChatGPT is being used already 160 00:09:17.750 --> 00:09:22.549 in much more elaborate and expansive ways. And ChatGPT is 161 00:09:22.570 --> 00:09:28.889 just one of the numerous artificial intelligent tools out there. 162 00:09:29.610 --> 00:09:32.000 But it's the one that we're most familiar with. And 163 00:09:32.580 --> 00:09:36.559 being able to understand what it's doing and what it's 164 00:09:36.600 --> 00:09:41.259 meaning and what those... language models and learning models are 165 00:09:42.820 --> 00:09:44.840 doing and what what the potential of it is. 166 00:09:45.779 --> 00:09:49.000 Yeah i mean you know when you look at entertainment 167 00:09:49.039 --> 00:09:51.750 for example you can look at uh movies like the 168 00:09:51.769 --> 00:09:56.509 matrix and and all of the stuff that came through 169 00:09:56.549 --> 00:09:59.120 that and the real world and the and the unreal 170 00:09:59.179 --> 00:10:01.879 world and what is real and what's not real. And, 171 00:10:02.600 --> 00:10:05.240 you know, the reality is we've come into a place 172 00:10:05.299 --> 00:10:08.679 that we're kind of in a place like that, not, 173 00:10:08.860 --> 00:10:12.710 not to the degree of, you know, the, the cartoonishness, 174 00:10:12.769 --> 00:10:17.309 I guess, of the way that that movie was portrayed. But, um, 175 00:10:18.299 --> 00:10:21.600 a lot of similarities. And so it's easy to say, well, 176 00:10:21.620 --> 00:10:26.320 the machines, quote unquote, are going to take over or 177 00:10:26.899 --> 00:10:32.529 this artificial intelligence, this AI is going to grow itself 178 00:10:32.629 --> 00:10:39.250 into some kind of uncontrollable thing. And there's always possibilities 179 00:10:39.309 --> 00:10:44.149 of really negative things happening with anything that humankind can 180 00:10:44.190 --> 00:10:45.850 come up with. Right. 181 00:10:45.909 --> 00:10:49.129 It reminds me very much the early days of the Internet. 182 00:10:49.610 --> 00:10:51.450 Yes. A lot of fear. 183 00:10:51.610 --> 00:10:53.590 The fear of what the Internet could bring, or even 184 00:10:53.669 --> 00:10:54.429 cable TV. 185 00:10:54.669 --> 00:10:57.559 Or even doing a transaction on the Internet. I remember 186 00:10:57.600 --> 00:11:00.679 that being so fearful. It's like, I'm not going to 187 00:11:00.720 --> 00:11:04.200 put my credit card number out there on the Internet 188 00:11:04.360 --> 00:11:07.360 with someone. And there is absolutely risk to it. And 189 00:11:07.580 --> 00:11:12.669 our credit card numbers have been compromised multiple times. Who 190 00:11:12.730 --> 00:11:17.110 knows how? but it just kind of has become a 191 00:11:17.169 --> 00:11:19.970 part of this is the way it is, right? Right. 192 00:11:20.029 --> 00:11:23.330 And there's tools to catch that really quick. We've not, 193 00:11:23.750 --> 00:11:25.980 even though our numbers have been compromised, we haven't ever 194 00:11:26.080 --> 00:11:30.899 lost anything. You know, we get calls right away and 195 00:11:31.759 --> 00:11:34.620 the bank says, you know, this transaction looks suspicious. And 196 00:11:35.100 --> 00:11:39.059 so there's technology that really helps and supports that. 197 00:11:39.480 --> 00:11:41.659 And AI will make that even better. Right. 198 00:11:42.299 --> 00:11:45.299 And one of the things, as I've, been doing some 199 00:11:45.799 --> 00:11:48.740 reading and we've both talked about it. You know, the 200 00:11:49.419 --> 00:11:52.779 speed of AI is what's fascinating for me. So things 201 00:11:52.799 --> 00:11:55.940 that used to take a long time, such as research 202 00:11:56.840 --> 00:12:03.320 or mostly research, whether that's in the pharmaceutical world with 203 00:12:03.700 --> 00:12:08.779 medications or in the research world, it's just amazing how 204 00:12:09.279 --> 00:12:15.470 answers and scenarios can be calculated or viewed or seen 205 00:12:16.210 --> 00:12:16.909 so much quicker. 206 00:12:16.929 --> 00:12:19.860 Yeah. I mean, we were listening to an interview the 207 00:12:19.889 --> 00:12:22.580 other day by the CEO of NVIDIA. 208 00:12:22.620 --> 00:12:23.679 Yeah, Jensen Wang. 209 00:12:24.100 --> 00:12:28.980 And he was talking about, someone asked him a question 210 00:12:29.019 --> 00:12:35.220 in this interview about AI and how often he uses it. And, 211 00:12:35.240 --> 00:12:38.120 you know, I mean, they're one of the proponents. They're 212 00:12:38.159 --> 00:12:40.600 on the leading edge of quantum computing and all of 213 00:12:40.659 --> 00:12:46.350 this technology and things that are coming. And the question 214 00:12:46.370 --> 00:12:50.690 that came from the interviewer had a lot of kind 215 00:12:50.730 --> 00:12:56.830 of fear-based... Inquiry. Inquiry to it. And he said, do 216 00:12:57.149 --> 00:13:00.370 you use... And he... What's his name again? 217 00:13:00.470 --> 00:13:00.889 Jensen. 218 00:13:00.950 --> 00:13:04.639 Jensen Wang. He said, you know, I use it every day. 219

00:13:05.039 --> 00:13:08.139 And not just one, not just ChatGPT, but a whole 220 00:13:08.179 --> 00:13:14.500 myriad of the different ones to... To analyze, to evaluate, 221 00:13:14.700 --> 00:13:21.059 to mirror, to look at all the possibilities. It's such 222 00:13:21.080 --> 00:13:23.220 a powerful tool to be able to see a lot 223 00:13:23.320 --> 00:13:27.490 of different perspectives in a very short period of time. 224 00:13:27.679 --> 00:13:29.830 Yeah, and he went even further and said that he 225 00:13:30.450 --> 00:13:35.169 pretty much encourages, if not a mandate, but encourages every 226 00:13:35.210 --> 00:13:40.460 single person in his company to be using AI as 227 00:13:40.500 --> 00:13:43.940 a tool, as a tool for research and possibility and 228 00:13:44.320 --> 00:13:50.340 problem solving and, you know, just exploring deeper, faster. So 229 00:13:51.259 --> 00:13:55.580 he definitely saw it as a competitive advantage using it. And, 230 00:13:56.059 --> 00:13:59.100 you know, the interviewer said, well, there's been this study 231 00:13:59.139 --> 00:14:03.590 by MIT that said people who use AI are actually 232 00:14:04.659 --> 00:14:09.269 losing or becoming diminished somewhat in their reasoning skills. 233 00:14:09.740 --> 00:14:13.600 Their capacity to do analysis or anything themselves. They're relying 234 00:14:13.700 --> 00:14:15.200 on technology too much. 235 00:14:15.279 --> 00:14:18.590 Right. And he said he hadn't read that study. He 236 00:14:18.620 --> 00:14:22.809 couldn't speak to the study. But he kind of smiled 237 00:14:22.850 --> 00:14:25.529 and said, I don't feel my capacity has been diminished 238 00:14:25.610 --> 00:14:29.929 at all. And I think that's something that we have 239 00:14:29.970 --> 00:14:32.409 to look at and be aware that something can be 240 00:14:32.470 --> 00:14:35.950 said and taken out of context or applied to a 241 00:14:35.990 --> 00:14:38.549 small group and we suddenly apply it to the whole world. 242 00:14:39.710 --> 00:14:42.429 And again, change happens one person at a time. So 243 00:14:42.470 --> 00:14:46.649 just ask yourself, what about AI may be useful in 244 00:14:46.690 --> 00:14:51.500 your world? And, um, and go from there, you know, 245 00:14:52.019 --> 00:14:55.799 it's been fascinating as we've looked at it, anything from 246 00:14:55.840 --> 00:15:01.059 a simple inquiry about analyzing something, you know, comparing one 247 00:15:01.080 --> 00:15:04.000 thing to another and, and giving an opinion or giving 248 00:15:04.379 --> 00:15:07.399 research about it. It's been a great way that I've 249 00:15:07.440 --> 00:15:11.519 done it. Um, asking it to kind of help create 250 00:15:12.429 --> 00:15:18.029 a statement or create a social media post or kind 251 00:15:18.070 --> 00:15:20.409 of an appealing way to say something or a different 252 00:15:20.450 --> 00:15:23.809 way to say something when you're wanting to find how 253 00:15:23.850 --> 00:15:27.529 to say perhaps something that may be challenging in a 254 00:15:27.549 --> 00:15:31.320 more neutral tone. So there's just been a lot of 255 00:15:31.980 --> 00:15:36.409 really interesting aspects and ways to start becoming more familiar 256 00:15:36.450 --> 00:15:39.009 with AI and dipping your toe in it versus having 257 00:15:39.029 --> 00:15:39.990 it become a boogeyman. 258 00:15:40.009 --> 00:15:46.370 Yeah. Or a boogeywoman. Either one. As I've looked at 259 00:15:46.389 --> 00:15:51.649 it and used it too, you can say you're having 260 00:15:51.690 --> 00:15:55.990 a conversation, but as I've used it more and more, 261 00:15:56.289 --> 00:16:01.620 and ChatGPT is the one that we've been using, it's 262 00:16:01.669 --> 00:16:05.570 the ultimate mirror. Because it allows you to hone in 263 00:16:05.669 --> 00:16:09.590 on something that you're working on, whatever that might be, 264 00:16:10.309 --> 00:16:14.350 and have something that's beginning to get to know you 265 00:16:14.590 --> 00:16:18.009 and how you perceive from what perspective you're coming from 266 00:16:18.129 --> 00:16:21.549 and mirror back to you in deeper ways than maybe 267 00:16:21.750 --> 00:16:30.940 you're even at the capacity to experience yourself in the moment. 268 00:16:31.470 --> 00:16:35.070 It takes you deeper. It's like this really open and 269 00:16:35.190 --> 00:16:39.429 intimate therapist, not necessarily using it for therapy, but it's 270 00:16:39.509 --> 00:16:44.169 someone who you can really say anything to, and they'll 271 00:16:44.529 --> 00:16:47.470 come back with a mirror and take you maybe to 272 00:16:47.509 --> 00:16:50.309 some perspectives that you haven't considered. 273 00:16:51.009 --> 00:16:54.820 Right, and from that standpoint, it opens up the possibility 274 00:16:55.500 --> 00:17:00.720 to kind of moderate your anxiety to a certain degree. 275 00:17:01.320 --> 00:17:01.559 Right. 276 00:17:02.240 --> 00:17:04.660 And it will ask you, would you like this said 277 00:17:04.799 --> 00:17:07.400 in a more direct way or a more neutral way? 278 00:17:07.420 --> 00:17:08.299 It gives you a choice. 279 00:17:08.359 --> 00:17:10.990 It gives you several choices that you can keep refining it. 280 00:17:11.789 --> 00:17:14.470 And in the research, when I've done research, you know, 281 00:17:14.609 --> 00:17:18.490 it doesn't come and predict the future for me at all. No. 282 00:17:18.849 --> 00:17:21.150 It gives me all sorts of information that I need 283 00:17:21.210 --> 00:17:25.869 to understand. And then it will say to me, you know, 284 00:17:26.130 --> 00:17:28.259 based on this or based on that, would you like 285 00:17:28.299 --> 00:17:31.240 me to compare it against something else? And and it 286 00:17:31.269 --> 00:17:34.089 may even suggest what to compare it against. So it's, 287 00:17:34.809 --> 00:17:36.430 it doesn't give you answers. 288 00:17:36.829 --> 00:17:37.049 Right. 289 00:17:37.769 --> 00:17:41.170 And I think that's

interesting where some people may feel 290 00:17:41.230 --> 00:17:45.119 it's an answer, but it's, you still have a lot, 291 00:17:45.299 --> 00:17:46.799 you still have choice in all of it. 292 00:17:47.599 --> 00:17:52.160 I think it, it, it significantly creases, increases your, um, 293 00:17:52.839 --> 00:17:56.019 productivity in whatever it is that you're doing, whether that's 294 00:17:56.059 --> 00:18:02.200 a creative act or it's some, some, uh, task that 295 00:18:02.480 --> 00:18:05.200 you need to get fulfilled, something that you're working on. 296 00:18:06.559 --> 00:18:08.480 I know there's a lot of fear in the education 297 00:18:09.299 --> 00:18:13.660 field around people using it too much and it becoming 298 00:18:13.740 --> 00:18:15.859 what writes all their papers for them and all of 299 00:18:15.900 --> 00:18:18.700 those things. But when I look back at writing papers, 300 00:18:20.079 --> 00:18:23.400 what a drudgery it was to write a composition about 301 00:18:23.480 --> 00:18:27.119 something sometimes where this can mirror some things back to 302 00:18:27.160 --> 00:18:30.240 you and give you ideas about where to go you 303 00:18:30.299 --> 00:18:33.960 still make it your own. You're not copying down word 304 00:18:34.039 --> 00:18:37.779 for word whatever comes back, but it helps you to 305 00:18:37.839 --> 00:18:42.140 go deeper. I've used it artistically. We did a podcast 306 00:18:42.180 --> 00:18:44.460 a while back about me starting to use my voice 307 00:18:44.529 --> 00:18:48.250 and singing more. And so when I've been sitting playing 308 00:18:48.309 --> 00:18:53.089 music and music has been coming through, sometimes a concept 309 00:18:53.150 --> 00:18:57.329 of what that song is about will come through, not 310 00:18:57.390 --> 00:19:02.609 from AI, but from within me. And I'll go to 311 00:19:02.650 --> 00:19:05.529 ChatGPT and say, I'm going to write a song. Here's 312 00:19:05.589 --> 00:19:10.390 the subject. And then I might give it the first line. 313 00:19:10.490 --> 00:19:13.349 For example, I did a song I called Take Me 314 00:19:13.390 --> 00:19:16.089 to the Place Where the Music Plays. And then to 315 00:19:17.829 --> 00:19:21.190 add on to that, also take me to the place 316 00:19:21.259 --> 00:19:24.380 where the sun shines. Take me to the place where 317 00:19:24.390 --> 00:19:26.299 the wind blows. Take me to the place where the 318 00:19:26.359 --> 00:19:29.509 children play. And then I just asked it to, you know, 319 00:19:29.549 --> 00:19:33.410 give me like four or five verses of different things 320 00:19:33.930 --> 00:19:38.500 that felt connecting and how that could be used in 321 00:19:38.740 --> 00:19:41.259 the lyrics. And it just, you know, it spits this 322 00:19:41.299 --> 00:19:44.069 stuff back out. And some of it made sense and 323 00:19:44.119 --> 00:19:46.529 some of it didn't. And I got to tweak it 324 00:19:46.690 --> 00:19:49.470 and make it my own and banter back and forth. 325 00:19:49.509 --> 00:19:51.480 It wasn't like the end of the conversation. This is 326 00:19:51.519 --> 00:19:53.549 what it is. It's like, no, take this out and 327 00:19:54.130 --> 00:19:55.930 find something else. And then it would come back with 328 00:19:55.990 --> 00:20:01.869 other ideas. So it increased my productivity in writing the 329 00:20:01.930 --> 00:20:05.829 lyrics to the songs. in a way that was really 330 00:20:05.890 --> 00:20:08.329 cool because it just took me deeper and all of 331 00:20:08.369 --> 00:20:10.549 the things were aligned to me because it's getting to 332 00:20:10.609 --> 00:20:15.839 know my perspective, my personality, um, the perspectives that I 333 00:20:16.339 --> 00:20:21.099 want to express. And so it's, it's a mirror of me, 334 00:20:21.559 --> 00:20:25.319 but sometimes it has better vocabulary than me because it's 335 00:20:25.640 --> 00:20:30.960 accessing such a wider, uh, Database. Yeah, database. And it 336 00:20:31.019 --> 00:20:33.730 can find the words that rhyme a whole lot quicker 337 00:20:33.769 --> 00:20:35.230 than I can. I have to go through the whole 338 00:20:35.369 --> 00:20:38.430 alphabet and everything to try and find maybe a word 339 00:20:38.470 --> 00:20:42.450 that rhymes at the end of a phrase. But ChatGPT 340 00:20:43.509 --> 00:20:46.150 has been a tool that I've used to help me 341 00:20:46.210 --> 00:20:46.650 with that. 342 00:20:47.130 --> 00:20:50.019 Yeah, I think that's wonderful. I know we're getting ready 343 00:20:50.099 --> 00:20:54.420 to introduce a new kind of brand that we're working on. 344 00:20:54.440 --> 00:20:56.740 And it's been really fun while we've been doing that. 345 00:20:56.859 --> 00:21:00.539 And I asked it. I gave it all these meaningful 346 00:21:00.599 --> 00:21:04.269 sort of symbolic parameters that we wanted a logo to 347 00:21:04.309 --> 00:21:08.589 look like and asked it to then create a logo 348 00:21:08.650 --> 00:21:14.009 that represented all of these elements that we said. And 349 00:21:14.450 --> 00:21:16.430 we loved the logo that came back. 350 00:21:16.450 --> 00:21:18.049 Yeah, it was so symbolic. 351 00:21:18.430 --> 00:21:24.099 Right, very symbolic. And the pieces that I suggested, that 352 00:21:24.140 --> 00:21:28.630 we wanted elements that represented the pieces represented it came 353 00:21:28.670 --> 00:21:32.210 back and said, you know, here are the elements. And 354 00:21:32.250 --> 00:21:34.880 it did it in such a way that was very 355 00:21:35.119 --> 00:21:37.900 aligned to what we were thinking. 356 00:21:38.039 --> 00:21:40.259 Yeah. A visual representation. 357 00:21:40.420 --> 00:21:43.680 Right, which was fabulous. So watch for that. That'll be coming. 358 00:21:44.240 --> 00:21:48.319 We're tweaking and puttering around on that in our spare time, 359 00:21:48.380 --> 00:21:52.650 but we're excited about it. So it's been, I guess 360 00:21:52.690 --> 00:21:56.730 the bottom line is it's been fun.

It's been curious. 361 00:21:56.750 --> 00:21:57.049 Yeah. 362 00:21:57.789 --> 00:22:01.549 It has expanded our curiosity. It has expanded our curiosity. 363 00:22:01.890 --> 00:22:06.569 And we haven't yet branched out to use multiple platforms. 364 00:22:06.809 --> 00:22:11.750 We're just becoming more familiar with ChatGPT and what it's doing. 365 00:22:12.750 --> 00:22:15.759 We may toy with another one. We did kind of 366 00:22:15.799 --> 00:22:19.759 write down the four that Jensen uses. And I said, 367 00:22:19.799 --> 00:22:22.140 you know, we can look into those, explore that later. 368 00:22:22.779 --> 00:22:27.150 But it's for our purposes, you know, we feel... We 369 00:22:27.170 --> 00:22:29.529 feel it's doing its job. 370 00:22:29.670 --> 00:22:33.170 Yeah. You know, one thing I wanted to mention as 371 00:22:33.210 --> 00:22:37.759 we're talking about this, and we've briefly, I think, talked 372 00:22:37.799 --> 00:22:40.000 about it in some of the interviews that we've done, 373 00:22:40.319 --> 00:22:42.720 and we've talked about it in some of the ones 374 00:22:42.759 --> 00:22:46.099 that we've just been talking with each other here, and 375 00:22:46.140 --> 00:22:51.509 that is that we went and saw Deepak Chopra speak 376 00:22:51.660 --> 00:22:53.750 here in Salt Lake a few years back, and he 377 00:22:53.789 --> 00:22:55.240 was talking about where all. 378 00:22:56.839 --> 00:23:00.359 Information resides. Do you remember that? Oh yes. And he 379 00:23:00.400 --> 00:23:04.119 was like, does it reside in the brain or does 380 00:23:04.160 --> 00:23:08.039 that information, you know, reside in the memory of your body? 381 00:23:08.799 --> 00:23:14.089 Does it reside somewhere outside of you in some, some capacity? 382 00:23:14.470 --> 00:23:19.390 Where is it that all meaning like all information, the capacity, 383 00:23:19.509 --> 00:23:23.390 all the information that ever existed, plus all the information 384 00:23:23.450 --> 00:23:26.670 that exists now, And all of the information that will 385 00:23:26.750 --> 00:23:31.640 come into existence, where does that reside? And that's the 386 00:23:31.700 --> 00:23:36.089 ultimate question that we always ask each other. Who am I? 387 00:23:36.140 --> 00:23:37.559 What am I? Why am I here? 388 00:23:37.579 --> 00:23:41.059 Yeah, not only memory, but consciousness itself. 389 00:23:41.200 --> 00:23:45.470 Yeah, consciousness itself. And that's really the key. It's like 390 00:23:46.289 --> 00:23:50.369 consciousness is, a good metaphor for consciousness is the blue sky. 391 00:23:51.539 --> 00:23:54.160 You look up and the blue sky, it's just expansive. 392 00:23:54.259 --> 00:23:58.579 Or the star-filled night is another way to look at that. 393 00:23:58.920 --> 00:24:02.000 What is consciousness? Those kinds of things make us feel 394 00:24:02.119 --> 00:24:03.059 super expansive. 395 00:24:05.079 --> 00:24:06.740 And we know thinking comes from. 396 00:24:09.000 --> 00:24:13.619 Our mind. Right. The thinking is the evaluating of the 397 00:24:13.680 --> 00:24:21.220 information that's already there. Right. Whereas insight or new... New 398 00:24:21.279 --> 00:24:24.869 ways of seeing maybe things that feel like they're new. 399 00:24:25.400 --> 00:24:26.230 Like a prompting. 400 00:24:26.329 --> 00:24:30.990 A prompting, yes. A prompting comes from some source where 401 00:24:31.609 --> 00:24:34.970 all of this information exists. So if we're sitting in stillness, 402 00:24:35.650 --> 00:24:39.839 this is ancient. This is the original AI. We'll call 403 00:24:40.039 --> 00:24:44.519 it the OI, original intelligence, is the sitting in stillness 404 00:24:45.500 --> 00:24:52.150 and quieting the mind. This seems... completely counterintuitive, but as 405 00:24:52.190 --> 00:24:54.369 we quiet the mind, we kind of open up this 406 00:24:54.410 --> 00:24:57.619 space for us to be able to then tap into that. 407 00:24:58.380 --> 00:25:02.599 So AI is in form, all of the information that 408 00:25:02.660 --> 00:25:07.460 exists here in reality, all the internet, all the Google searches, 409 00:25:07.529 --> 00:25:11.450 everything that's ever been done is accessible, but the stuff 410 00:25:11.470 --> 00:25:14.490 that doesn't yet, has not yet come into form is 411 00:25:14.549 --> 00:25:19.180 accessible in the O.I., where we go in the original intelligence, 412 00:25:19.200 --> 00:25:23.029 where we sit in stillness, we allow ourselves to become 413 00:25:23.109 --> 00:25:28.990 still and contemplate. And in that space of contemplation, sometimes 414 00:25:29.670 --> 00:25:34.529 information comes through that we have never been privy to before. 415 00:25:34.690 --> 00:25:39.210 And what is that? And why is that? It's why 416 00:25:39.880 --> 00:25:43.779 everything that exists on this planet in form that human 417 00:25:43.839 --> 00:25:47.369 beings have created exists here. comes from that place. 418 00:25:48.369 --> 00:25:50.970 Well, and I often think, in fact, I would even 419 00:25:51.269 --> 00:25:54.650 start to use this in communication courses that I would teach, 420 00:25:55.450 --> 00:25:58.950 is that I believe the technology we bring into form, 421 00:25:59.990 --> 00:26:05.880 we create technologies to help us understand ourselves better. And 422 00:26:06.099 --> 00:26:09.500 those promptings come from some kind of deep knowing, some 423 00:26:09.539 --> 00:26:13.259 kind of research, our capacity to expand. And so I 424 00:26:13.279 --> 00:26:17.170 would often say, you know, the internet or Google the 425 00:26:17.230 --> 00:26:20.470 ability to search something and get an answer in a 426 00:26:20.490 --> 00:26:26.210 nanosecond was very much teaching us like how we work. 427 00:26:26.549 --> 00:26:29.170 Yes, it's a metaphor for the why. 428 00:26:29.430 --> 00:26:34.220 Right, because how many of you in a nanosecond have 429 00:26:34.259 --> 00:26:38.099 been able to recall a memory going

back to your 430 00:26:38.119 --> 00:26:42.160 childhood as if it were present today? You know, and 431 00:26:42.460 --> 00:26:45.680 all of a sudden, you know, whether it was a 432 00:26:45.720 --> 00:26:49.390 fearful one or one that made you laugh, but all 433 00:26:49.410 --> 00:26:51.829 of a sudden it's not present in your mind, but 434 00:26:51.869 --> 00:26:54.750 within seconds you can just pull that memory forward like 435 00:26:54.789 --> 00:26:58.569 a Google search and not only have the memory, but 436 00:26:58.630 --> 00:27:03.680 also the feelings, the scenario, all the information around it. And, 437 00:27:04.960 --> 00:27:07.720 you know, I just, I remember having that insight one 438 00:27:07.740 --> 00:27:09.880 day that's like, oh my goodness, we have like a 439 00:27:10.440 --> 00:27:15.250 natural Google search inside us. where some people say, oh, 440 00:27:15.269 --> 00:27:17.150 you have a really long memory or you don't let 441 00:27:17.170 --> 00:27:20.569 that go. Well, all of that is just information that 442 00:27:20.630 --> 00:27:24.640 is stored somehow. And like Deepak said, where we store it, 443 00:27:24.730 --> 00:27:28.170 we're not really sure. Or science is trying to figure 444 00:27:28.190 --> 00:27:32.210 that out more and more every day. But it is 445 00:27:32.279 --> 00:27:36.859 definitely teaching us kind of how we work in a 446 00:27:36.900 --> 00:27:39.579 way that we can trust because we can see the internet, 447 00:27:39.619 --> 00:27:41.740 we can search on the internet, we use it as 448 00:27:41.779 --> 00:27:45.579 a tool. We see how it works. And so that mirroring, 449 00:27:45.720 --> 00:27:48.460 I love the word mirror, because it is a mirroring 450 00:27:48.539 --> 00:27:54.410 of our own potential, our own possibility, our own capacity 451 00:27:54.849 --> 00:27:59.289 that we're expanding to if we embrace it. But if 452 00:27:59.329 --> 00:28:04.259 we become fearful, then it's actually something that limits us 453 00:28:04.859 --> 00:28:08.099 and limits our own experience here in mortality, here in 454 00:28:08.200 --> 00:28:13.240 earth school. And then We stop learning. 455 00:28:13.259 --> 00:28:17.779 You know, Don Miguel Ruiz wrote the book, The Four Agreements, 456 00:28:17.940 --> 00:28:20.900 and then he wrote another book with his son. I 457 00:28:21.740 --> 00:28:27.450 think it's Don Miguel Jr. And Don Jose, I think 458 00:28:27.490 --> 00:28:32.170 it is actually. And it's the fifth agreement, which is 459 00:28:32.190 --> 00:28:37.059 be skeptical, but learn to listen. And that's kind of 460 00:28:37.099 --> 00:28:40.700 what the gist of this podcast is. today is, it's 461 00:28:41.039 --> 00:28:46.099 okay to be skeptical about those things. However, there's really, 462 00:28:46.299 --> 00:28:53.089 it's a powerful tool when used in beneficial ways for 463 00:28:53.150 --> 00:28:54.009 you as a human. 464 00:28:55.029 --> 00:28:57.269 And we're saying it because that's what

we're doing. 465 00:28:57.289 --> 00:28:57.730 We're doing it. 466 00:28:58.269 --> 00:29:02.650 So as we're doing it, we're finding there's curiosity in it. 467 00:29:03.259 --> 00:29:06.170 We don't feel threatened by it. As you open the door, 468 00:29:06.230 --> 00:29:09.440 you see possibility. We may not see all the possibility. 469 00:29:09.480 --> 00:29:13.039 We might not understand all of the news releases and 470 00:29:13.099 --> 00:29:17.380 where AI may take us, but we are creating a 471 00:29:17.500 --> 00:29:21.059 relationship with it so that it is not fearful, that 472 00:29:21.099 --> 00:29:25.240 it's not something that we're just resisting and kind of 473 00:29:25.279 --> 00:29:26.240 being boomers about. 474 00:29:26.680 --> 00:29:30.799 Well, and I have not stopped meditating. I have not 475 00:29:30.900 --> 00:29:34.779 stopped contemplating because AI can give me all the answers. 476 00:29:36.400 --> 00:29:40.869 I've actually deepened my practice into that because I know 477 00:29:40.950 --> 00:29:46.410 that the OI, original intelligence, has all of the information 478 00:29:46.549 --> 00:29:50.539 and that the AI has a lot of information, but 479 00:29:50.559 --> 00:29:54.440 it doesn't have all of the information. So it's accessing 480 00:29:54.500 --> 00:29:59.079 the information that's already there, whereas OI is accessing information 481 00:30:00.329 --> 00:30:02.109 all of the information. Right. 482 00:30:02.150 --> 00:30:06.690 It's accessing data, but it, it doesn't have your, the 483 00:30:06.750 --> 00:30:11.839 emotional response to it. You know, the, the human, human nature, 484 00:30:11.970 --> 00:30:15.200 human factor of your emotions. 485 00:30:15.839 --> 00:30:22.160 Yeah. And, um, it's unlikely that, that, that, you know, 486 00:30:22.740 --> 00:30:25.839 there's no way to know where that technology is headed 487 00:30:25.859 --> 00:30:31.579 in the future, but, uh, There always has to be 488 00:30:31.660 --> 00:30:36.599 this human living in form element to all of it. 489 00:30:36.680 --> 00:30:41.099 Because my opinion is we are the manifestation of the 490 00:30:41.140 --> 00:30:46.069 divine in form. Highly intelligent. But we're not the only 491 00:30:46.089 --> 00:30:50.269 thing that is that manifestation. We like to think we are. 492 00:30:50.289 --> 00:30:53.690 We like to think we're the ones that are set apart, 493 00:30:54.190 --> 00:30:57.089 that are the most important. Because we can build all 494 00:30:57.109 --> 00:30:58.650 of the things and create all of the things that 495 00:30:58.690 --> 00:31:01.250 we can create. But a lot of the times when 496 00:31:01.289 --> 00:31:04.890 we create those things, they're out of balance with Mother Nature. 497 00:31:04.950 --> 00:31:07.069 They're out of balance with the place that we live. 498 00:31:07.150 --> 00:31:10.930 We've gone to a place where we're not living, obviously 499 00:31:10.990 --> 00:31:15.319 not living in balance with nature. And I think as 500 00:31:16.380 --> 00:31:19.839 we begin to use AI in the way that it's 501 00:31:19.890 --> 00:31:24.339 been designed as this ultimate mirror, that it's hopefully is 502 00:31:24.380 --> 00:31:27.059 going to be able to guide us back to that place, 503 00:31:27.680 --> 00:31:29.670 take us back to that place. That doesn't mean we 504 00:31:29.710 --> 00:31:33.930 need to go back and, and be a caveman, but 505 00:31:33.970 --> 00:31:37.630 it does mean that we, we can still live in 506 00:31:37.650 --> 00:31:40.150 the form and the ways that we're living and do 507 00:31:40.220 --> 00:31:42.740 it in a way that's more aligned and balanced with 508 00:31:42.880 --> 00:31:47.480 nature and not taking, taking, taking, but in a reciprocal 509 00:31:48.240 --> 00:31:54.329 kind of living. And, um, There's so much division on 510 00:31:54.349 --> 00:31:58.369 the planet right now, I think, because of this division 511 00:31:58.410 --> 00:32:00.390 of the way things are seen. And you can't go 512 00:32:01.130 --> 00:32:04.420 too far one way or too far another way. It 513 00:32:04.720 --> 00:32:10.220 all can happen in balance if we stop resisting so much, 514 00:32:10.299 --> 00:32:14.920 resisting each other so much. Allowing for all opinions, allowing 515 00:32:15.000 --> 00:32:19.710 for us to learn as we go. As we were... 516 00:32:20.650 --> 00:32:22.730 talking about being in San Diego this weekend, we got 517 00:32:22.750 --> 00:32:27.170 to observe the children playing in the playground. When you 518 00:32:27.230 --> 00:32:29.859 notice children and you notice how they interact and you 519 00:32:29.890 --> 00:32:35.480 go back to your own childhood and the playground arguments 520 00:32:35.539 --> 00:32:38.279 and the playground negotiations and all of the things that 521 00:32:38.299 --> 00:32:41.240 happened when we were children, look at the world today. 522 00:32:42.190 --> 00:32:45.130 What's the difference between what's happening between governments and the 523 00:32:45.170 --> 00:32:49.119 way they interact with each other and you know, egos 524 00:32:49.180 --> 00:32:52.660 and everything gets involved and all the stuff gets involved. 525 00:32:53.509 --> 00:32:55.750 It's just another playground battle. 526 00:32:56.269 --> 00:32:57.750 Right. With just older children. 527 00:32:57.789 --> 00:33:01.630 Just older children. And it's older children who've not gotten 528 00:33:01.750 --> 00:33:03.549 out of that, that way of. 529 00:33:03.609 --> 00:33:08.720 Established patterns and beliefs that we've adopted and narratives that 530 00:33:08.759 --> 00:33:12.920 we've created that we believe are true. And so all 531 00:33:12.940 --> 00:33:13.859 of that is at play. 532 00:33:14.119 --> 00:33:16.299 Yeah. So. 533 00:33:17.150 --> 00:33:20.589 I love that comparison because it's something for us, again, 534 00:33:20.670 --> 00:33:23.970 to just be very curious about and not make so 535 00:33:24.029 -->

00:33:27.589 much right or wrong. It's fascinating for me to think 536 00:33:27.670 --> 00:33:30.670 about the last few years and how much of my 537 00:33:30.950 --> 00:33:37.180 life has really shifted from having a clear kind of 538 00:33:37.259 --> 00:33:41.359 black and white approach at times to more of a 539 00:33:41.400 --> 00:33:45.079 very neutral and curiosity. And neutral really means more curiosity 540 00:33:45.140 --> 00:33:45.440 to me. 541 00:33:45.460 --> 00:33:45.779 Yes. 542 00:33:46.400 --> 00:33:49.230 And not curious about what's right or wrong but just 543 00:33:49.289 --> 00:33:54.150 curious as to why people hold such opinions and it's 544 00:33:54.589 --> 00:33:58.450 also helped me see my own patterns and that's what 545 00:33:58.750 --> 00:34:03.390 you know AI it's it's mirroring a lot of patterns 546 00:34:03.539 --> 00:34:06.390 like a pattern of if if it does start to 547 00:34:06.450 --> 00:34:11.789 have emotions in it it's emotional patterns That it's, you know, 548 00:34:12.250 --> 00:34:14.250 it has data around emotional patterns. 549 00:34:14.269 --> 00:34:15.710 But it's picking them up from you. 550 00:34:15.969 --> 00:34:17.070 Right. And so. 551 00:34:17.809 --> 00:34:20.449 That's why it's the ultimate mirror because it's your emotions 552 00:34:20.510 --> 00:34:21.230 and it's your patterns. 553 00:34:21.250 --> 00:34:25.449 Right. Because my choices come totally from my patterns. And so, 554 00:34:25.489 --> 00:34:27.610 you know, in nature, when you get close to nature 555 00:34:27.650 --> 00:34:31.570 and you see really small, subtle things that are happening 556 00:34:31.610 --> 00:34:34.409 that you pay attention to and you're like, wow, that's 557 00:34:34.449 --> 00:34:38.199 really fascinating that plants react this way or birds react 558 00:34:38.239 --> 00:34:43.139 this way or. They become cautionary in these scenarios. It's 559 00:34:43.679 --> 00:34:47.409 when you are still enough to notice that, those are 560 00:34:47.469 --> 00:34:48.630 also beautiful mirrors. 561 00:34:49.170 --> 00:34:54.369 Yes. So, you know, as we wrap this up, we 562 00:34:54.389 --> 00:34:56.530 don't want to go too long and beat this horse 563 00:34:56.570 --> 00:34:56.929 to death. 564 00:34:57.070 --> 00:34:58.989 No, we want it to be a prompt. We want 565 00:34:59.110 --> 00:35:02.469 people to go like, oh, let me think about, you know, 566 00:35:02.670 --> 00:35:04.429 first of all, where am I with my thoughts? 567 00:35:04.710 --> 00:35:05.530 Am I fearful? 568 00:35:05.630 --> 00:35:09.429 Am I curious? Am I thinking that that's like science 569 00:35:09.489 --> 00:35:13.989 fiction and will never come about. You know, we've also 570 00:35:14.030 --> 00:35:18.500 been very fortunate to pay attention to some of the 571 00:35:18.539 --> 00:35:22.280 companies that are leading the way and doing a little investing. 572 00:35:22.480 --> 00:35:25.719 And that's been paying off nicely for us. So I 573 00:35:25.760

--> 00:35:29.380 think that's another benefit to just be curious about it 574 00:35:29.420 --> 00:35:31.000 and understand it. Yeah. 575 00:35:31.420 --> 00:35:34.840 I remember missing the boat back in the early tech bubble. 576 00:35:35.929 --> 00:35:39.050 When I wanted to buy Yahoo stock when it was $ 50. 577 00:35:38.429 --> 00:35:43.650 And you didn't? I didn't. And it went to $ 200 578 00:35:43.250 --> 00:35:45.449 and split and went to $ 200 and split and went 579 00:35:45.489 --> 00:35:50.230 to $ 200 and split. I was going to invest $ 5, 000 580 00:35:49.269 --> 00:35:52.510 in Yahoo at the time. And I think we're kind 581 00:35:52.570 --> 00:35:59.659 of on a cutting edge of technology really taking off 582 00:35:59.719 --> 00:36:04.480 in a certain direction. But as humanity, we need to 583 00:36:04.500 --> 00:36:09.429 be able to integrate that in a way that is 584 00:36:09.889 --> 00:36:16.179 in a positive way. Not going down the negative roads 585 00:36:16.300 --> 00:36:18.519 like we've done with a lot of other things before. 586 00:36:19.539 --> 00:36:24.170 Hopefully we can learn the lessons that those experiences have 587 00:36:24.230 --> 00:36:29.050 brought to us as humanity. And this giant leap is 588 00:36:29.090 --> 00:36:32.719 what it looks like to me in technology today. whether 589 00:36:32.760 --> 00:36:35.340 it's from AI or quantum computing or any of those 590 00:36:35.380 --> 00:36:38.460 things that are coming down the road, they can be 591 00:36:38.699 --> 00:36:41.000 huge and powerful tools for us to be able to 592 00:36:42.440 --> 00:36:45.119 make life better in a way that's more balanced, as 593 00:36:45.179 --> 00:36:48.610 I was talking about, rather than it just being about 594 00:36:48.929 --> 00:36:53.050 our brains and thinking and analyzing the analytical side, but 595 00:36:53.090 --> 00:36:56.610 to bring in the emotion and the caring and the 596 00:36:56.670 --> 00:37:00.300 love and the compassion for Not just ourselves and each other, 597 00:37:00.400 --> 00:37:04.800 but the world itself and every living thing. I love that. 598 00:37:05.070 --> 00:37:05.320 Yeah. 599 00:37:06.119 --> 00:37:07.989 I think we can do it. I really do. Yeah. 600 00:37:08.110 --> 00:37:08.710 I'm excited. 601 00:37:09.429 --> 00:37:12.550 I am very excited. I want to live a long time. 602 00:37:12.570 --> 00:37:15.469 I want to see some of these things come about 603 00:37:15.570 --> 00:37:19.750 and what it all means and how life just shifts 604 00:37:19.829 --> 00:37:22.320 and changes. And I'm excited to be a part of it. 605 00:37:22.650 --> 00:37:24.889 I am too. You know, we get to come here 606 00:37:24.929 --> 00:37:28.480 and spend a lifetime together. And my belief is that 607 00:37:28.500 --> 00:37:30.969 we have multiple ones. But I'd like to see some 608 00:37:30.989 --> 00:37:33.130 of this change really happen so that the next time 609 00:37:33.190 --> 00:37:38.929 I come, things are better. Touché. Touché. All right. Well, 610 00:37:38.969 --> 00:37:42.130 thanks for joining us today. We really appreciate you being here. 611 00:37:43.030 --> 00:37:47.880 Please share our podcast out there and rate us and 612 00:37:48.360 --> 00:37:50.519 put in a comment if you think there's something you 613 00:37:50.559 --> 00:37:53.880 want to say. Whatever that is, we would love to 614 00:37:53.920 --> 00:37:54.320 hear from you. 615 00:37:54.980 --> 00:37:56.159 Until next time then, right? 616 00:37:56.219 --> 00:37:57.079 All right. We'll see you. 617 00:37:57.480 --> 00:37:57.940 Bye. 618 00:38:00.480 --> 00:38:05.139 If you're enjoying the Observatory Podcast, please consider subscribing, sharing us, 619 00:38:05.699 --> 00:38:08.300 and if you have time to write a review about 620 00:38:08.340 --> 00:38:10.559 something that may have affected your life or helped you 621 00:38:10.579 --> 00:38:13.679 in some way, please do so. That helps us to 622 00:38:13.719 --> 00:38:16.150 get the word out and get this information out to 623 00:38:16.250 --> 00:38:18.750 more and more people so that it can be shared 624 00:38:19.150 --> 00:38:23.130 and we can help ripple out this energy that's emanating 625 00:38:23.150 --> 00:38:25.829 in the world today. There's been so much separation, and 626 00:38:25.889 --> 00:38:28.789 we want to find a way to create conversations where 627 00:38:28.829 --> 00:38:32.619 we can come together, not divide so much as we 628 00:38:32.659 --> 00:38:36.739 have been, to learn to come together in unity. Thank you. 629 00:38:40.739 --> 00:38:43.230 You've been listening to The Observatory Podcast. 630 00:38:43.610 --> 00:38:46.809 Please be sure to subscribe so you don't miss any 631 00:38:47.070 --> 00:38:48.530 of our future episodes.