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It's about people. I love people. My life has been spared.
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I should be dead, Ryan, from using drugs, shooting dope,
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smoking crack, had cancer twice, lost my left kidney, gave
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my second surgery. So I really want to be able
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to make sure that my urgency every day is to
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get up and make a difference in someone else's life
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that's suffering, no matter what they're suffering with, just to
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encourage them that their life really do matters. And that's
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why the Darryl Strawberry Recovery Center was established. So important
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to be able to help people and to show them
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that you really do care about them.
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Welcome to The Learning Leader Show. I am Ryan Hawk.
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Thanks so much for being here. We are hosting today.
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an in-person workshop in the fall on developing personal.
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Excellence as a leader.
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For details and availability, go to ryanhawk.me.
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We're going to keep the.
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Group small and intimate to ensure maximum engagement.
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It's going to be so much fun.
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I'm really looking forward to this, taking what we've learned
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and putting it all into this two-day workshop. Go to ryanhawk.me
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for dates and availability. Now, on tonight's featured leader, it's
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with baseball legend Darryl Strawberry. During his career, he helped
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lead the New York Mets to a World Series championship
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and the New York Yankees to three World Series championships.
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He's a nine-time All-Star, hit 335 home runs.
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He was also suspended.
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three times by Major League Baseball for substance abuse. Now
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Daryl is taking that message to the masses with the
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book Don't Give Up on Me, Shedding Light on Addiction.
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A few of the topics we got into. The key
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advice he'd give to people early in their career, and
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it's advice that he wished he had received. Then the
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greatest teammates he played with, and what specifically made them great.
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then how addiction nearly killed him multiple times and why
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he's dedicated his life to helping others. Ladies and gentlemen,
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this one was wide ranging and deep. I think you'll
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get a lot out of it. It's Daryl strawberry. All right, Daryl, uh, strawberry.
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It's so cool to have you here on the learning
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leader show.
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Welcome. Thank you, Ryan. Thanks for having me. I, uh, obviously.
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Um, Big fan of you as a player.
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Grew up watching you.
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I just mentioned to you that I would drive down
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to Cincinnati and watch Reds games.
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And so I've seen you obviously play in person.
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The intimidating lefty coming up with the leg kick and
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jack at home run. So it's cool to be able
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to have this conversation with you, man.
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Well, I guess you didn't mind I was beating up
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on your Reds. Is that what you're telling me?
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I like, as you'll find, I like greatness and people
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who make it happen.
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So I oftentimes would go to watch.
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people like you play to see
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you hit home runs
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or great pitching or big-time hitters. So, no, I'm okay
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with that. But, Daryl, why I have you, I'm curious. So,
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you've obviously spent a great portion of your life around
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people who have sustained excellence, whether they're athletes, coaches, managers,
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and then post-playing days. Obviously, there's a lot we're going
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to get to that you can talk about from a
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sustaining excellence perspective. But I'm curious, from your perspective, What
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are some of the common themes or characteristics you found
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in people who sustain excellence?
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Well, I think they're, they're very calm. You know, they
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don't get too anxious about things and they learn to lead.
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And I think that's, that's important. Uh, when you watch
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people and being in professional sports, I had opportunity to watch,
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you Like David Johnson lead us and Joe Torre lead
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us as a matcher. And how they never get rattled.
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They stay calm regardless of the situation. Because the circumstances
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arise in the ballgame and they don't panic. And when
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you don't panic, that brings out a good leadership of
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who you are. And I think that comes over time
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of learning and playing. especially in sports. I think when
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you have managers that played the game and understand the game,
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they know how to manage players. And that's what makes
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them so good. That's what makes them such a good
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leader is to be able to manage players because you
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got to understand the sports, right? And you know that players,
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you're going to deal with players with all kinds of
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different personalities. How do you handle a clubhouse? How do
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you handle a team when they get on the bench?
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And how do you use players to perform at their best?
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And I was able to sit back and watch these
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guys that managed me blend players into positions so they
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could be successful. They wasn't the kind of leader that
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would put a player into a place where he's going
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to fail. They always put them in a situation to succeed.
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And I think that's great leadership. You learn a lot
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from that as a person.
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It's really interesting. What about as your teammates, other players?
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I mean, I know from the football background, it's a
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little bit different than baseball because baseball, you play 162
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games plus playoffs, so you can't get two up.
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In football, you get really excited.
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But the best teams that I've ever been a part of, Daryl,
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were teams that had great leadership from the ranks of players,
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whether it was captains or just the guys that you
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really looked up to that were your peers. What about
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other players that you were with that you felt were
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great leaders?
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Well, great leaders. Gary Carter and Keith Fernandez, they were
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great leaders because they just was an example of what
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it's like to come to the ballpark and prepare yourself
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each day. Because like you said, baseball is 162 ballgames,
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and you might be going into postseason play, so it's
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going to be longer. So it's a long year, and
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young players have a tendency of kind of fading out.
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they keep the young players going. That's so important for
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a team. Tom Brady, he's a prime example of football,
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what a great leader he is. He just leads by example,
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and Hernandez and Carter was the same way when they
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came to the ballpark. They were just leading by example
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and showing younger players this is how it works, you know,
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during the course of a long season because sometimes you
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can get distracted and I never saw those guys get distracted.
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I always saw those guys with the intensity level and
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the focus when they came to the ballpark. It was
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about taking care of business on the field and they
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showed that and they helped us. I mean, that really
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what helped us move forward
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all young myself and good and other young players, they
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had experienced playing at the major league level for such
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a long time and been in a lot of battles.
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And they taught us how to be in battles and
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they taught us how to be overcomers through adversities because
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you're going to have that during the course of a season.
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So I respect them highly. I mean, who they were
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at the time as players and leaders. And Carter just
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as a man and Hernandez as a man, they showed
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us a lot. And it really helped us grow as
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young players.
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Was that something that you struggled with personally throughout your
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career or maybe early in your career of the consistent
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focus day after day?
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Yeah, I mean, you're very young. I got to the
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big leagues at 21. And when you get to the
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big leagues, you think it's going to be great every day.
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And it's not going to be great every day. I
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had to learn as I went down the process of
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becoming an everyday player and developing what it is, what
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it takes to to run out there every day. I
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wasn't always focused like those guys were when I was young,
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but as I got older, I started understanding the importance
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of that because other players are watching you at the
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same time, and that's how other players learn to grow
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from watching you perform and how you come to the
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ballpark and how serious you is about what you have
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to do, your job on the field.
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Yeah, you were able to perform at such a high
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level at a really young age. Do you feel.
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like that was based upon you had this natural God-given
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talent that just came out of you or was a
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combination of things?
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That's a good point, Ryan. Cause I think so many
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young athletes come to the professional ranks and they just
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think it's always going to be easy, but it's just,
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it's really not, you know, you're going to face some
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difficult times and most of us think, you know, it's
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just the way it is. And we can do this
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all the time and perform like this all the time. And,
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It's when you hit those hard times, how do you
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handle those type of situations? And I had to learn
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how to handle those type of situations. And that's why
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I was saying it was great to be around good
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leadership like I had with the Carter and Hernandez because
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I saw how they handled the good times and I
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saw how they handled the tough times. Because when you
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go through those tough periods, who are you then? When
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you're two for 30, what do you do to get
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out of that jam that you're in? How do you
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get yourself out of that jam? And I learned from them,
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your preparation... of going down to the batting cage and
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working on your fundamentals all over again to be able
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to get you going again. So it takes a lot
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to understand that when you're young, because young players always think, well,
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I'm going to always be good. But that's not the case.
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The game is not that easy. It may look easy
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from a standpoint at some period of time when you
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perform it, but when you run into those most difficult times,
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then that really shows what kind of player you're going
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to be, how you're going to be able to bounce
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back from these type of things.
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You guys won a World Series in 1986.
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What was the key? You mentioned some of the leaders.
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What was the keys to you guys triumphing and winning
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that World Series?
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Just being a team, I think, more than anything. Teams win,
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not players, not one player, two players. It takes a
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whole team effort because you have to have guys come
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off the bench that can perform. The bullpen has to
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be successful. Starting pitching has to be good. And everyday
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players have to play
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play well all the time. And that's why it's important
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to be a team because you can have guys that
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can fill in. And their part of the team is
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so important. I think most people... underestimate that and overlook that,
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you know, why a team becomes very successful is because
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you're a complete team. And I think that was the
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key for us. We became a complete team. The years before, 85, 84,
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you know, we came close. But 86, we put it
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all together from day one, spring training. And I remember
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when we got to spring training, we had the first
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meeting and David Johnson looked at it all. He says,
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we're going to win it all. We kind of looked
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around and we thought, yeah, we're going to win it all.
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And we put it together from that point of day one,
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understanding that our goal was to win it all this year.
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And we went on and did that. It wasn't easy.
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We had to go through a very difficult Houston Astros team.
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Mike Scott, Nolan Ryan, we had to beat them. And
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then we got into the World Series and we didn't
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do well at the beginning. And we just took a
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day off and we came back fresh and we went
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up to Boston and we just played and that just
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characterized what kind of team we really had. Yeah.
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And as you progress, and I know this is something
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that you really are focused on now in your post
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playing days, but as you progress throughout your career, you
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had a varying degree of issues that came up and
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we'll get to the root of those problems too. I'm
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curious to learn, but whether it was with drugs and
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bouts of cancer, I mean, you had a number of
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things happen throughout your life. So I'm curious about, If
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you think about some of the root causes or what
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it was that you felt led to you to using
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drugs in your life, what was it in those moments
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when you decided that that was going to
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you were going to do?
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Why did you do that?
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the inside, right? It doesn't matter how great we look
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on the outside. No matter how strong you look, how
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physically athletic, I can perform at the best level. But
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if I'm hurting on the inside and I've never been
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well on the inside, then there's a problem. Putting on
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a baseball uniform just covers it up. I always... when
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I'm speaking to people, I always tell them my pain
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led me to my greatness, but my greatness would eventually
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lead me to my destructive behavior because I wasn't well
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as a person. I came from a broken situation, dysfunction.
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My father was an alcoholic and he beat the crap
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out of me and said I never amounts to nothing.
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And I believed it for a long time. I believed
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it in my major league career. I believed in being successful.
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I didn't believe in myself early as a kid, low self-esteem.
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And marijuana was the beginning of of the age of 13,
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14 years old smoking marijuana to escape from the pain
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of who I was. And I think a lot of
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us get affected on the inside and we never get
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healed on the inside. So it'll just play out in
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your life. Somewhere along your life is going to play
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out if I never get the healing process on the
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inside of who am I and learning to be okay
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with myself. I was okay putting on a uniform and
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You can attest to that. You know, when we put
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on the uniform, we feel good about ourselves because we
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know what we're doing. We like we like doing it.
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But who am I? And a lot of times a
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lot of athletes question that a lot of celebrities question themselves.
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Who am I? And they find all these other outlets
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for their insecurities to try to make them feel better
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about themselves, even though they're excelling. there's still an emptiness
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on the inside because I've never been healed on the inside.
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And I went through that process for a very long time.
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And it just all came unraveling to a downfall completely
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because if I never get well on the inside, it
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doesn't matter what I look like on the outside. The
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insides are really important for us to be able to
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get healed and feel good about ourselves.
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You know, I spent a little time around people who
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played professional sports and even people who are famous actors
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at certain events, Daryl. And I think a lot of
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people are really surprised when we hear this. Even if
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you had a, I'm very lucky, had basically the opposite
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upbringing that you had. And I realize that that's the
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perspective that I speak from. But I find it, I
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still am I don't know if I'd say fascinated or
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just really surprised when I hear somebody like Daryl Strawberry
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or others who are world-class, the best in the world
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at what they do, and yet they have these incredible
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insecurities about them.
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Yeah, it's so real, regardless of how world-class of athlete
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or star or whatever you are, Dr. Lurie, whatever it is.
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Because most of the time, most people think, well, because
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you become successful, you should be okay and you make
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a lot of money. I've been privileged my whole life
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and Made a lot of money live behind communicate. So
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I should have been well But I wasn't I was
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I was yearning for love. Love is love is love
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and affection from a Family is more important anything and
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I got that Deep love for my mother, but I
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never had a father if you can understand never had
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a father to come watch me play Little League I
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grew up playing a little like baseball by myself and
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my mom would come watch me and then going through
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high school I never had a father around so I
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had to learn all these Real lessons of life and
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how to become a man through my troubles, through my
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failures and everything. And I had to learn that I
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had to be an overcomer from all those things because
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I never had anyone to teach me about decision making.
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And if we don't teach kids about making the right
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decisions in their life, they're going to make the wrong decisions.
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That's what happened to me in my life. No one
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was there to teach me about, you know, those choices
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I was choosing and what I was choosing to do,
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that they had major consequences behind it. So I had
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to learn the hard way and I had to go
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through the hard part of it until I ended up
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getting well on the inside. And then I look back,
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I can look back and reflect now of how empty
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I really was. You know, I had everything, Ryan, but
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I had nothing. I just had a bunch of stuff. Why?
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So let's say there's somebody listening right now who has
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world-class talent at something and they don't have a dad, unfortunately.
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But we don't want them to go down the path
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of using drugs because of whether it's insecurities or emptiness
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or yearning for love. What advice do you give to
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those people who are not as fortunate as somebody like
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me who still has both parents who are incredibly supportive
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and helpful.
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What advice do you give to them?
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I would give the advice to them to allow someone,
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you know, if they just have a mom, listen to her.
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I wish I would have listened to my mom because
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my mom was so courageous. She raised five of us
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and we just didn't listen because we're so lost, you know,
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on the inside of who we were and everything. And
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I would, I would encourage them to listen and take direction.
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Direction is, is, is very important. for one to be
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able to take some type of directions from someone that's
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trying to give them real instructions about real life. And
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also for a young boy, if he's affected like that,
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just allow someone to come into their life, a mentor
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or someone come into their life And walk down the
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road with them, life with them, and trust them. You know,
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trust them to lead you the right way. And then
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hopefully they will. Because kids are like, when they're broken
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on the inside, they're fragile. And it's hard for them
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to trust anyone. And it was very hard for me
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to trust anyone growing up. And I had a lot
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of coaches, good coaches in my life, who saw greatness
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in me, but I didn't see it. And they saw it,
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and they believed in me. I just didn't have that
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faith to trust them because I was scarred. I was
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already wounded at such a young age. And I would
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just encourage anyone that's listening, allow someone to pour into
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your life good things and trust the process. And had
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I not trusted the process, I might have turned out
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a little different. And, of course, I could have probably
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had a better career had I was able to be
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open-minded and listening to someone. But it's very challenging for
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people to do that that's already scarred and broken on
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the inside.
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You have really successful athletic sons that play basketball. What's
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been your relationship like with them and how have you
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helped them navigate this world of being world-class athletes in
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their own right?
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I've been able to love them, the love that I
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didn't get from my father. And I've been able to
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be a father to be there for them, not coach them, right?
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But to be there, to be there to encourage them.
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I never wanted to be their coach. I realized that
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I needed to let the coaches know who came into
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their life to be their coaches and I needed to
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be the father on the sideline and being able to
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watch and sit in the stands and not critique them
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so much, you know, just encourage them about how they
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can be better. I think that's the appropriate way for
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one to be able to handle their children is not
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drive it down the throat. One thing I didn't do
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was drive down my kids throat was play baseball. And
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I think because I didn't really want them to have
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to live up to can you be as good as
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your dad? Can you be as good as your dad?
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That's all they would ever hear. But I allowed my
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boys to pick what they wanted to play and my
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girls were able to play volleyball and play sports and
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stuff like that. And I've always encouraged them to be
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the best at what you're doing. When you step on
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the court, when you step on the field, whatever it is,
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be the best at it. In life too, try to
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be the best at it. And one thing my mother
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did give us was real values in life is to
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have respect for other people. And I can say me
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and my brothers and sisters, we grew up with that
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inside of us. So I always have respect for other people.
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And I try to give that to my kids too.
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Always have respect for other people. And what I mean
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by that, Ryan, is never think you're better than someone else.
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Did you lose some of that through the times, through
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the down times when you were in the midst of using?
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No, I mean, I never lost respect for people. I
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lost respect for myself. Yeah. I think I think I
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always cared about people and I've always had a loving
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heart towards fans and towards teammates. Yeah. Well, there are
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times where we butted heads. Yeah, that's part of it.
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But I always went back and, you know. And inside
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my heart, I always knew that I loved them no
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matter what we butted heads about. And that's just the
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person I was growing up. My mother gave me that
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inside of me because that's who she was. I was
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able to see that with my mom. So it always
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made me a caring person and caring for other people
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because my mother was a person that was always caring
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for others and helping others. Even though her son was
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a big star, she wasn't. That wasn't important to her.
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She was more concerned about how do we help other
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people and make other people happy. And I've always felt
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that way, too.
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I watched the ESPN 30 for 30 with it's called
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Doc and Daryl about you and Dwight Gooden. What's your
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relationship like with with Doc now?
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It's good. It's really good. You know, we had some
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rocky times, but, you know, that's just like two brothers.
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I've always loved him. He's just a phenomenal person. You
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always have been. And we both just, I just believe
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we both grew up with some hurting things inside of
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us that we just really never dealt with. And it
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affected us more than anything. But, you know, our relationship
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is great now. And, you know, I'm just really proud
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of him and what he's doing and how he's moving
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forward in his life. And I'm proud of the fact
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that I'm moving forward in my life today.
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Well, let's talk about that.
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There's a book called Don't Give Up On Me that
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you and Sean Powell wrote about You've written a number
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of books, so this is the latest, but why did
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you write this book?
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Well, I think because when we look at America today
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and we look at what has happened with the epidemic
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of opiates and heroin addiction that's sweeping across America and
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that's killing so many young people like never before. And
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it just blew my mind. And, of course, Sean wrote
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the book, plus our team that was involved, the CEO, John,
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for Oglethorpe, and Ron Dark, and Dr. Miller, and all
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of us got together and just realized that, you know,
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we have a chance to speak about what addiction is
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and how it really affects one's life. But you have
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to be able to sit down. I had to
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down with Dr. Miller, psychiatrist, you know, for him to
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be able to, I pick my brain and find out
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who I was back then and what happened. Because something
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happens in people's lives. There's some kind of trauma. There's
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some kind of abuse. There's some kind of rejection. There's
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some kind of loneliness that happens to one that gets addicted.
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Because nobody signs up to be addicted to drugs and alcohol.
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That just doesn't happen. Nobody was created for that. Something
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happens in your life that makes you feel empty on
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the inside. And once you try it, it alters your
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mind and it changes you forever. And that's what happened
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to me when I was 13, 14 years old. Picking
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up marijuana, it altered my mind, changed me forever. Marijuana maintenance,
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people say there's nothing wrong with it. Well, yeah, it
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is for kids because it's going to lead them to
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the next thing because it's going to stop working, just
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like it did for me. And then it leads you
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to everything else. So we try to fill this empty hole,
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this empty void inside. And that's why I don't give
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up a machete light on addiction. It's so important for
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people to understand. And reading the book, reading what happens
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to a world-class athlete, how did he get to this
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00:24:09.880 --> 00:24:13.640
place of being great? and being broken at the same time.
484
00:24:14.829 --> 00:24:16.589
I mean, I was great as a player that whole
485
00:24:16.650 --> 00:24:20.650
time in my career. I was, people say I was great,
486
00:24:21.170 --> 00:24:24.069
but I was broken Ryan at the same time. And
487
00:24:24.089 --> 00:24:26.650
it was because of my pain made great, you know,
488
00:24:27.130 --> 00:24:30.130
and then eventually that would lead to the destructive behavior
489
00:24:30.450 --> 00:24:33.019
of my life and the fall of my life. Because I,
490
00:24:33.259 --> 00:24:35.720
because if you never get well dealing with it, the
491
00:24:35.819 --> 00:24:41.230
inside hurts and the emptiness, um, there's usually some destruction
492
00:24:41.259 --> 00:24:43.460
that's going to happen in one's life. And so many
493
00:24:43.539 --> 00:24:48.099
people have crossed this road. And I've seen so many people,
494
00:24:48.619 --> 00:24:52.119
celebrities that could have a voice, speak up to make
495
00:24:52.160 --> 00:24:55.400
a difference in what is happening in our society today.
496
00:24:55.700 --> 00:24:58.859
Because we're in the most difficult time that we've ever
497
00:24:58.900 --> 00:25:02.920
been in, having treatment centers and having a treatment center
498
00:25:02.940 --> 00:25:07.380
down here in Florida, and seeing young people just so separated.
499
00:25:07.869 --> 00:25:10.089
and believe that their life don't matter and they're dying.
500
00:25:10.150 --> 00:25:12.789
You know, they OD in young girls, 19 years old,
501
00:25:12.950 --> 00:25:15.430
OD in two or three times already. And you're seeing
502
00:25:15.450 --> 00:25:17.730
this and you're going, my God, there's got to be
503
00:25:17.769 --> 00:25:19.950
an answer. And we need to be the answer. We
504
00:25:19.970 --> 00:25:21.970
need to be able to speak up and show people
505
00:25:21.990 --> 00:25:24.190
that they can be well and their life matters.
506
00:25:24.710 --> 00:25:28.190
What was the key moment in your life? Maybe there
507
00:25:28.210 --> 00:25:32.410
was multiple ones where it went from You being a
508
00:25:32.630 --> 00:25:36.589
user on your path to recovery, to getting well, and
509
00:25:36.650 --> 00:25:39.150
how does that apply to others too?
510
00:25:40.259 --> 00:25:44.579
Well, being a user is one that needs to come
511
00:25:44.619 --> 00:25:49.559
to grips and deal with what's wrong on the inside,
512
00:25:49.819 --> 00:25:52.630
the broken me. And I had to deal with the
513
00:25:52.650 --> 00:25:56.230
broken pieces of my life. I didn't want to turn
514
00:25:56.250 --> 00:25:58.730
out to be like my father, an alcoholic. I turned
515
00:25:58.769 --> 00:26:00.369
out being just like I didn't want to be like
516
00:26:00.470 --> 00:26:02.849
my father womanizer. I turned out to be just like
517
00:26:03.109 --> 00:26:04.990
I said, I wouldn't be like him. But as long
518
00:26:05.009 --> 00:26:07.190
as I was hurting on inside, I ended up being
519
00:26:07.210 --> 00:26:09.390
just like him. And I had to deal with that.
520
00:26:09.589 --> 00:26:12.349
And I had to face I had to face face
521
00:26:12.369 --> 00:26:14.730
that a lot. A lot of times people want that
522
00:26:14.789 --> 00:26:16.670
are in the midst of addiction, never want to come
523
00:26:16.690 --> 00:26:20.210
to the grips of facing addiction. The real hard things.
524
00:26:20.230 --> 00:26:21.970
You have to face the hard things before you can
525
00:26:21.990 --> 00:26:25.519
ever get on the journey to recovery. And it takes
526
00:26:25.539 --> 00:26:28.680
other people helping you. My wife, Tracy, was a tremendous
527
00:26:30.019 --> 00:26:33.700
blessing in my life in helping me. She says so
528
00:26:33.740 --> 00:26:37.480
profound one day she said before we ever got married
529
00:26:37.519 --> 00:26:39.640
and I was in the midst of addiction. She's a recovery.
530
00:26:39.680 --> 00:26:42.740
She says, if you're
going to ever get well, you
531
00:26:42.759 --> 00:26:48.450
need to take that uniform off. Hmm. I was like, wow,
532
00:26:48.630 --> 00:26:50.109
nobody has ever said that to me.
533
00:26:50.349 --> 00:26:51.589
Wait, were you still playing at the time?
534
00:26:52.769 --> 00:26:54.430
No, I wasn't playing. Okay. Okay.
535
00:26:54.609 --> 00:26:56.190
So what uniform is she talking about?
536
00:26:57.529 --> 00:27:01.509
She's talking about the identity of who I was, Darryl Strawberry,
537
00:27:01.990 --> 00:27:06.599
Major League Baseball player. Now, for me to get well,
538
00:27:06.930 --> 00:27:10.180
I need to take that off and not be him anymore.
539
00:27:11.829 --> 00:27:13.490
But there's a lot of good that happened.
540
00:27:13.609 --> 00:27:15.309
I mean, like you brought a lot of joy to
541
00:27:15.450 --> 00:27:19.200
others through your play, right? Millions of people watched you
542
00:27:19.240 --> 00:27:24.099
for 17 plus years. So, I mean, that's that, you know,
543
00:27:24.279 --> 00:27:28.140
I guess that's hard to juxtapose the difference between you
544
00:27:28.220 --> 00:27:32.039
being this great player who was so fun. I mean,
545
00:27:32.099 --> 00:27:34.200
I'm one of them fun to watch and brought us
546
00:27:34.299 --> 00:27:36.259
joy with your talents and hitting.
547
00:27:36.099 --> 00:27:36.849
Long home runs.
548
00:27:36.920 --> 00:27:37.119
Right.
549
00:27:37.640 --> 00:27:41.309
And then saying, wait, that you can't be that person anymore.
550
00:27:42.519 --> 00:27:45.900
Yeah, well, it's not that you can't be who he was.
551
00:27:45.980 --> 00:27:48.069
I mean, yeah, of course. But you have to separate
552
00:27:48.089 --> 00:27:51.890
yourself to enter into life. Gotcha. Gotcha. You understand what
553
00:27:51.930 --> 00:27:57.450
I'm saying? Because most athletes never enter into life after
554
00:27:57.470 --> 00:28:00.710
they take the uniform off from a retirement standpoint. So
555
00:28:00.730 --> 00:28:03.910
they still hold on to that, and they never enter
556
00:28:03.990 --> 00:28:08.329
into who they are and why they were created. Because
557
00:28:08.349 --> 00:28:12.140
there's more to it than just doing that because... I
558
00:28:12.180 --> 00:28:17.019
do know one thing, Ryan. You cannot play forever. Yeah. Yes.
559
00:28:17.420 --> 00:28:19.680
And it comes a point you have to retire. So
560
00:28:20.000 --> 00:28:22.119
what's your next step after you retire? And if you
561
00:28:22.180 --> 00:28:26.430
don't have a next step, you're going to stay on
562
00:28:26.450 --> 00:28:31.109
the same road. And you can never really actually get
563
00:28:31.150 --> 00:28:35.009
to the place of being the person that you were
564
00:28:35.049 --> 00:28:36.809
created to be. I mean, that was part of what
565
00:28:36.829 --> 00:28:38.910
I did. And I got that. I mean, I did
566
00:28:38.930 --> 00:28:43.069
it at the time. When she said that, I was
567
00:28:43.089 --> 00:28:44.059
hanging on to the uniform.
568
00:28:44.359 --> 00:28:46.240
What year was this again? 2006, you said?
569
00:28:46.259 --> 00:28:53.279
Yeah, probably around 2005, 2004.
570
00:28:53.279 --> 00:28:54.319
How long have you been sober?
571
00:28:56.849 --> 00:28:58.950
About 14 years, something like that.
572
00:28:58.950 --> 00:29:03.130
14 years. Have there been moments throughout that are just.
573
00:29:04.690 --> 00:29:08.359
Unbelievably hard or is that a daily feeling or does
574
00:29:08.380 --> 00:29:09.539
it get easier over time?
575
00:29:10.960 --> 00:29:13.839
It gets easier over time when you change. Okay. When
576
00:29:13.859 --> 00:29:18.400
you change the character of you. Being a baseball player
577
00:29:19.359 --> 00:29:21.180
was just a guy that really put on a uniform
578
00:29:21.220 --> 00:29:24.480
and had a talent and excelled and achieved a lot
579
00:29:24.519 --> 00:29:29.769
of great things and loved making people happy. Yeah. But
580
00:29:29.970 --> 00:29:32.930
being a man is like totally different. Okay. Now that
581
00:29:32.970 --> 00:29:37.009
means I have to truly grow up and take responsibility.
582
00:29:37.269 --> 00:29:41.019
And what I mean by that, Ryan, take responsibility. for
583
00:29:41.059 --> 00:29:45.740
my actions. Okay. Responsibilities for my actions was I heard
584
00:29:45.779 --> 00:29:48.269
a lot of people because I was selfish and self-centered
585
00:29:48.289 --> 00:29:52.349
because it was made about me because I was Darryl Strawberry,
586
00:29:52.450 --> 00:29:56.609
major league baseball player. So when you have that kind
587
00:29:56.670 --> 00:30:00.609
of lifestyle and that fame and stuff like that, Nobody
588
00:30:00.670 --> 00:30:04.269
ever want to tell you you've got a problem. Nobody
589
00:30:04.329 --> 00:30:06.529
ever want to tell you, no, you shouldn't do that.
590
00:30:06.569 --> 00:30:10.289
You shouldn't be that way. You have everybody that's riding
591
00:30:10.329 --> 00:30:13.210
with you. They want to say, let's have fun. You're
592
00:30:13.230 --> 00:30:14.569
having fun, so don't worry about it.
593
00:30:14.849 --> 00:30:18.470
Do you give advice to younger players now to say,
594
00:30:18.910 --> 00:30:21.190
you've got to surround yourself with people in your inner
595
00:30:21.250 --> 00:30:24.049
circle who are willing to tell you no, who are
596
00:30:24.089 --> 00:30:26.450
willing to be brutally honest with you? Do you try
597
00:30:26.490 --> 00:30:28.950
to give them that advice to have those types of
598
00:30:29.019 --> 00:30:31.970
people Um, and, and there, so I, I think of
599
00:30:31.990 --> 00:30:34.430
this because my younger brother played in the NFL for
600
00:30:34.430 --> 00:30:37.569
11 years and, uh, it was a very good player
601
00:30:37.690 --> 00:30:39.700
for a pro bowler and Superbowl winner for the Green
602
00:30:39.720 --> 00:30:42.900
Bay Packers. And I, I felt like, um, that this
603
00:30:42.940 --> 00:30:45.160
was one
of my roles in his life that we're
604
00:30:45.200 --> 00:30:48.180
best friends and still are, and we'll always will be,
605
00:30:48.240 --> 00:30:50.789
but he all also knew that I was going to
606
00:30:50.849 --> 00:30:53.539
tell him the truth. and still do. And he tells
607
00:30:53.599 --> 00:30:55.640
me the truth. Like we, we have that relationship on
608
00:30:55.680 --> 00:30:59.450
a daily basis. And I feel like that's sorely needed with,
609
00:30:59.690 --> 00:31:01.950
with people. Cause it could be, and he's as humble
610
00:31:02.029 --> 00:31:04.529
as he's ever been. And I, and I, I hope
611
00:31:04.650 --> 00:31:06.589
he would say the same about me. And I'm, I'm curious,
612
00:31:07.089 --> 00:31:08.869
is that, was that a problem that you didn't have
613
00:31:08.950 --> 00:31:11.069
people in your inner circle who are willing to tell
614
00:31:11.130 --> 00:31:13.670
you no, or if they did tell, you know, maybe
615
00:31:13.710 --> 00:31:15.470
you eliminated them from your inner circle.
616
00:31:16.569 --> 00:31:18.190
No, I mean, a lot of times back then you
617
00:31:18.210 --> 00:31:21.269
didn't have people in your inner circles that would, tell
618
00:31:21.289 --> 00:31:23.990
you know to encourage you yeah with the with the
619
00:31:24.049 --> 00:31:25.990
traps that were out there because they were already in
620
00:31:26.009 --> 00:31:29.369
the traps himself yeah most of the time and we
621
00:31:29.410 --> 00:31:31.490
all thought we was having fun but you think you're
622
00:31:31.509 --> 00:31:35.210
having fun but you never think it's gonna spiral out
623
00:31:35.250 --> 00:31:38.630
of control you you think we're just having fun this
624
00:31:38.710 --> 00:31:41.980
is just the way life is and I guess we
625
00:31:42.019 --> 00:31:44.359
really never talk about the real tempt didn't talk about
626
00:31:44.380 --> 00:31:48.539
the real temptations of what can happen back then and
627
00:31:48.779 --> 00:31:53.650
and it's good it's good that, uh, people, um, like yourself,
628
00:31:53.750 --> 00:31:56.190
you Ryan, you have your brother and everything, and you're
629
00:31:56.230 --> 00:31:58.670
able to speak into his life and, and, and help
630
00:31:58.730 --> 00:32:01.930
him make, you know, right decisions and stuff like that.
631
00:32:01.960 --> 00:32:04.400
Cause it's easy to, it's easy not to make the
632
00:32:04.440 --> 00:32:09.380
right decision in this kind of lifestyle. I bet it's, it's, it's, it's,
633
00:32:09.500 --> 00:32:11.720
it's an open door. It's like a, it's like, it's
634
00:32:11.740 --> 00:32:13.500
like a candy store. You can go on a candy
635
00:32:13.519 --> 00:32:15.269
store and you like candy, you pick out what you like,
636
00:32:15.289 --> 00:32:18.309
you know, in this life, you know, it's the same way.
637
00:32:18.349 --> 00:32:20.809
And the, And if someone's not speaking into your life
638
00:32:20.829 --> 00:32:25.869
that really cares, most of the time people that are
639
00:32:25.890 --> 00:32:29.450
hanging around you really don't care. They just like the
640
00:32:29.470 --> 00:32:31.299
fact that they can be with you and we're going
641
00:32:31.319 --> 00:32:35.599
to have fun. And I've seen so many athletes like myself,
642
00:32:36.180 --> 00:32:39.680
great athletes, great people, who life just gets completely out
643
00:32:39.700 --> 00:32:42.339
of control because of the circle. Yeah.
644
00:32:42.779 --> 00:32:45.099
So what are you doing now? What's your day-to-day like now?
645
00:32:47.339 --> 00:32:51.349
Oh, that's a good question. My day-to-day life is really busy.
646
00:32:51.390 --> 00:32:54.009
It's traveling on the road. I'm a pastor and I'm
647
00:32:54.049 --> 00:32:57.829
in ministry and I travel the country and preaching the gospel,
648
00:32:57.849 --> 00:33:00.880
but I also travel the country. I'm speaking on bringing
649
00:33:00.910 --> 00:33:04.660
hope from those that are suffering with addiction and who's
650
00:33:04.680 --> 00:33:08.680
struggling to try to encourage families and friends, you know,
651
00:33:08.799 --> 00:33:11.099
to never give up. Don't give up. That's why I
652
00:33:11.119 --> 00:33:14.309
wrote the book. Don't give up. You know, don't give
653
00:33:14.349 --> 00:33:16.329
up on me, you know, because it's so important that
654
00:33:16.430 --> 00:33:18.369
we don't give up on people because we don't know
655
00:33:18.890 --> 00:33:21.059
what their journey is. We don't know what's going to happen.
656
00:33:21.259 --> 00:33:25.259
I mean, most people, uh, probably have given up on
657
00:33:25.279 --> 00:33:27.799
me and said, you know, he'll be dead. You know,
658
00:33:27.819 --> 00:33:29.839
some writers said he'll be dead before you know it.
659
00:33:29.920 --> 00:33:32.599
And I guess they, they prophesied over me. Yeah. The
660
00:33:32.680 --> 00:33:35.680
old me is dead. He no longer lives. So, and now,
661
00:33:35.700 --> 00:33:38.160
you know, I'm here to, um, You know, just be
662
00:33:38.200 --> 00:33:41.299
a vessel, man, to help and encourage people that their
663
00:33:41.319 --> 00:33:44.769
life matters. Because I know playing at the highest level
664
00:33:45.410 --> 00:33:48.430
as I played at and being successful winning championships and
665
00:33:50.009 --> 00:33:53.140
living that life and everything, it was fun doing it.
666
00:33:53.380 --> 00:33:56.440
At the same time, it was painful. But now today,
667
00:33:56.500 --> 00:33:58.859
I don't live a painful life. I live a joyful life.
668
00:33:59.670 --> 00:34:02.089
to know that I can go back and help somebody
669
00:34:02.130 --> 00:34:04.930
else and encourage somebody else that may be suffering with
670
00:34:04.970 --> 00:34:07.180
whatever kind of addictions. Because there's all kinds of addictions,
671
00:34:07.200 --> 00:34:10.360
you know, people struggle with. And not just drugs, you
672
00:34:10.380 --> 00:34:12.739
got gambling, sex, you got, you
know, pornography, you got
673
00:34:12.920 --> 00:34:15.059
all kinds of people are stuck in. So I could
674
00:34:15.079 --> 00:34:16.480
be able to go back and tell my story to
675
00:34:16.519 --> 00:34:20.599
them of what I was like and what I am today.
676
00:34:20.719 --> 00:34:24.119
Do you still, are you still around the game, around baseball?
677
00:34:25.670 --> 00:34:28.429
No, I'm not. I'm really, I'm not around baseball. I mean,
678
00:34:29.369 --> 00:34:31.150
catch a game here and there, go back to a
679
00:34:31.170 --> 00:34:33.309
reunion or something like that, which is always exciting to
680
00:34:33.349 --> 00:34:36.250
go back. Um, uh, just like I said, I've traveled
681
00:34:36.269 --> 00:34:39.130
so much, uh, just got back home off the road
682
00:34:39.230 --> 00:34:42.489
for this weekend, doing a men's conference at Charlotte and, uh,
683
00:34:42.510 --> 00:34:44.670
preaching at church on Sunday and getting back home and
684
00:34:44.889 --> 00:34:48.659
got a couple of days to really be, um, dad again,
685
00:34:48.699 --> 00:34:51.280
you know, just went to my son graduation and my
686
00:34:51.300 --> 00:34:55.349
daughter graduate this week from high school. So The plate
687
00:34:55.409 --> 00:34:57.809
is full, and it's good to have a full plate
688
00:34:57.949 --> 00:34:59.489
when you don't have an empty plate because when you
689
00:34:59.510 --> 00:35:02.420
have an empty plate, idle mind is a terrible thing.
690
00:35:02.440 --> 00:35:04.400
It's a terrible thing to waste because you don't know
691
00:35:04.420 --> 00:35:05.179
what to do with yourself.
692
00:35:05.539 --> 00:35:10.019
What about– I saw this clip on Fox of Pete Rose,
693
00:35:10.119 --> 00:35:14.539
Alex Rodriguez, and A-Rod and Frank Thomas talking about the
694
00:35:14.780 --> 00:35:16.440
art and the science of hitting.
695
00:35:16.519 --> 00:35:19.780
It was like 12 minutes, and I was fascinated.
696
00:35:19.820 --> 00:35:22.039
I'm not a big– I played baseball growing up, but
697
00:35:22.079 --> 00:35:25.539
my sport that I excelled in as I progressed was football,
698
00:35:26.239 --> 00:35:28.880
but I still love that clip. And I would imagine
699
00:35:28.900 --> 00:35:31.139
that you'd be somebody who could add to that. So
700
00:35:31.199 --> 00:35:33.760
do you miss having conversations like that or being around
701
00:35:33.780 --> 00:35:37.130
the ballpark or being around guys taking BP and giving
702
00:35:37.190 --> 00:35:40.469
little tips for people to, uh, to become a better hitter?
703
00:35:41.769 --> 00:35:43.489
Well, no, I don't miss that part. I mean, I
704
00:35:43.789 --> 00:35:47.019
love talking about that because they, you know, people always
705
00:35:47.739 --> 00:35:49.400
want to kind of pick your brain about it. And
706
00:35:49.440 --> 00:35:51.719
when I go to different places and they, they, uh,
707
00:35:52.239 --> 00:35:54.219
They know that I played at such a high level
708
00:35:54.260 -->
00:35:58.510
and was very successful. They would always ask me, who's
709
00:35:58.610 --> 00:36:01.769
the toughest pitcher? I was like, Nolan Ryan. They said, well,
710
00:36:01.809 --> 00:36:03.289
why was he so different? I said, well, he had
711
00:36:03.309 --> 00:36:05.230
a different demeanor on his face than anybody else. He
712
00:36:05.269 --> 00:36:08.349
looks different. He didn't smile. He let you know, don't
713
00:36:08.389 --> 00:36:10.329
dig in because I'm probably going to put one under
714
00:36:10.369 --> 00:36:15.079
your chin. So that's a real reality of playing baseball.
715
00:36:15.420 --> 00:36:18.139
But I always talk about the fact of hitting. They
716
00:36:18.159 --> 00:36:20.619
would say, well, why were you so successful in such
717
00:36:20.639 --> 00:36:23.300
a big situation? Cause I said one thing about the
718
00:36:23.320 --> 00:36:27.059
game that I always learned. I used to play the
719
00:36:27.099 --> 00:36:29.219
game and want to win the game from the own
720
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deck circle. When I'm in a battle spot, I'm looking
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at the situation, looking at the scores. I'm looking at who's, who's,
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who I'm going to be facing. And I always knew
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this Ryan and that I'm going to get two good pitches.
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Each at bat. One of them, I got to hit. Hmm.
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Uh, I just feel like there's so many guys could
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benefit from that aspect too. You're already doing such great
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work and helping so many people. But if the Mets
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or somebody else said, would you be– maybe not full-time
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because that would take too much time. But would you
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be– I know you've done a little bit of this already.
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But come to spring training and then meet up with
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us a few times a year and be a part-time
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hitting coach. Is that something that would interest you?
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No, not at all. No? Why not? I don't want
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to say thank you. I just– I don't know. I
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just don't have– I mean, if I had to go
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down and visit, I don't know, maybe. I don't know, maybe.
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It depends on what situation it was. Maybe if it
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was like Jeter. Maybe if it was like Jeter because
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he was my friend. If he asked me to come
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down with the Marlins, I'd have nothing to do with him. Yeah,
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I would help him out because I loved him. He
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was a great teammate and a great friend. But outside
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of that, I don't think anybody else I would involve
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myself with that kind of work. A lot of times,
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you know, the players are a little different today because
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I remember a few years back when I did go
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down to spring training and worked with a couple guys.
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We were talking to a couple guys about hitting and
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stuff like that. And they were like, well, you know what?
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I got this. I really think I got this. I'm like, dude,
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you're hitting a buck 90. How do you got it? Really? Wow. Yeah.
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They were like, oh, you know, they didn't want to
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listen because you were, I would try to tell them
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some things. They were, You know, like left hand hitters.
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I can work a left hand hitter and I can
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make him learn how to hit left hand pitching like
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never before because Hernandez taught me how to do it.
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So it never goes away. And what left hand hitters
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don't do, they don't work in batting practice enough. They
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work about trying to see how far they can hit
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the ball out of the ballpark. I used to work.
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Hernandez taught me how to work hitting line drives to
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left center. of left-hand pitching and batter practice. So that
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would always keep you in on the ball. And when
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they automatically come in, you're going to automatically turn on them.
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So you don't have to worry about it. You'd be
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able to cover the whole play. So I learned that
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from him teaching me that. And I remember one year,
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I hit 15 home runs to the opposite field because
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I learned how to stay on the baseball. You know,
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and guys don't understand that when you're trying to teach
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them that, but they want to get into the cage
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and they want to see how far they can hit
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the ball. Dude, it's five o'clock. There's a lot of
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00:38:56.909 --> 00:38:59.070
great five o'clock hitters. but when they come to throw
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that slider, when they come and throw that breaking ball,
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what you going to do?
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Yeah. I, uh, believe your first major league home run
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was an opposite field left center.
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00:39:07.300 --> 00:39:11.650
Shot, right? Yeah. It's off of Lee tunnel in Pittsburgh. Yeah.
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I remember I was watching as I was getting ready.
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Um, Darrell, it's so cool to talk a combination of things,
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baseball as well as post-baseball life and how you're helping
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so many people. It's obviously that you're a very passionate guy,
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which uh i i find fascinating i'm really appreciative is
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there anything i missed that uh you want to make
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sure you hit before we take.
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Off no i i just i think it's just important
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that um at this place i'm in my life today
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it's about people i love people um my life has
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been spared I should be dead, Ryan, from using drugs,
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shooting dope, smoking crack, had cancer twice, lost my left kidney,
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gave my second surgery. So I really want to be
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able to make sure that my urgency every day is
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to get up and make a difference in someone else's
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life that's suffering, no matter what they're suffering with, just
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to encourage them that their life really do matters. And
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that's why the Darryl Strawberry Recovery Center was founded. So
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important to be able to help people and to show
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them that, you know, that that you really do care
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about them. And writing this book was so important to
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educate people more than anything. And really going to the schools.
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I mean, I go into the schools for young kids
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to try to make sure young kids stay clear away
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from drugs and tell them the danger of drugs and
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don't pick it up. Don't stop. Parents, I tell the parents,
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stop with the prescription. Stop allowing your kid to get
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00:40:35.019 --> 00:40:36.760
a prescription because they're going to get addicted. It's going
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to alter their mind. Wake up. We're in a very
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serious time with this. And if you don't pay attention,
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it could happen to your kid. And
so just making
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people aware of those type of things and caring at
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the same time.
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Love it, man.
816
00:40:51.409 --> 00:40:53.349
Well, the book is called Don't Give Up on Me,
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Shedding Light on Addiction with Daryl Strawberry.
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Daryl, it's so cool to talk to you, man.
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I'm a big, big fan and it's been even better
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00:40:59.989 --> 00:41:03.130
getting to know you and I appreciate your team connecting
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with me.
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This has been a lot of.
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Fun, man. Well, thanks. And you know, you can go
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to findingyourway.com and slash learning leader.
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Yeah, I saw that.
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Yeah.
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I appreciate you guys setting that up. That's really, really,
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really cool. Where else would you send my listeners to
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learn more about you online?
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Findingyourway.com learning leader.
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Slash learning leader.
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Slash learning leader. Yeah, slash learning leader.
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Perfect.
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Learning leader, man. I like that. That's a good, that's
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a good topic. I mean, learn to lead.
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Thank you. Thank you. I appreciate it, man. This has
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been great. And hey, I would love to continue this dialogue.
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I know you spend some time in Ohio, so it'd
839
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be cool to link up at some point when you're
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in Southwest Ohio to talk and maybe have a lunch
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00:41:44.619 --> 00:41:45.099
or something, Darrell.
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It'd be great, man.
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That'd be great. Next time I'm in Ohio, I'll just
844
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give you a ring. I'll get you information for a
845
00:41:50.719 --> 00:41:53.119
man and Maybe we can hook up in Ohio because
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I love Ohio. I mean, because what they got going
847
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down there. Yeah. Yeah. It needs a lot of help.
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People care. Awesome, man.
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Well, thanks so much, Daryl.
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All right. Thanks. I appreciate you, Ryan. All right.
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Big thank you to Daryl for joining me on this episode.
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I get this sense that he's very passionate still about baseball.
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Maybe he'll go.
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Down and help Derek Jeter and the Marlins. He seems
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00:42:17.300 --> 00:42:18.960
like he has a lot to give in that arena
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00:42:19.059 --> 00:42:21.360
as well, but it was inspiring to hear his message
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00:42:21.380 --> 00:42:23.199
and how he's trying to help so many people.
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Hope you enjoyed it.
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If you did, I'd love it if you would write
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to review, subscribe, and rate the show on iTunes, Apple Podcasts.
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That's write a review, subscribe, and rate it. Hopefully five
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stars on iTunes, Apple Podcasts. It really helps spread the message.
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And by the way, if you're interested in our in-person workshop,
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go to ryanhawk.me. Again, it's on developing personal excellence as
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a leader. It's going to be a lot of fun. RyanHawk.me.
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Thanks again for all of your support.
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I will see.
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You next week.
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