Transkrip penuh untuk 145 - Luis Garcia Returns (2nd time)

00:04:40.889 --> 00:04:42.769 at the end of the episode, we'd say, I love 74 00:04:42.790 --> 00:04:46.699 you to each other. So it can happen. It works, people. Just, 75 00:04:47.019 --> 00:04:50.459 you know, be kind and understand other people and realize 76 00:04:50.500 --> 00:04:53.939 that not everyone comes from the same background, from the 77 00:04:53.980 --> 00:04:59.029 same family life, etc., etc. So, hope you enjoy it. 78 00:04:59.160 --> 00:05:02.939 Stay tuned for... Well, no, I've got a mid-roll ad. See, 79 00:05:03.060 --> 00:05:06.480 this is how prepared I am. And I'll see you 80 00:05:06.540 --> 00:05:14.589 real quick on the flip side for the outro. All right, everybody. 81 00:05:14.870 --> 00:05:20.550 I am... so pleased to welcome on uh the longest 82 00:05:20.709 --> 00:05:28.889 prodigal son for the podcast yes uh uh 140 episodes 83 00:05:28.980 --> 00:05:32.300 or so apart from the first appearance. 84 00:05:32.339 --> 00:05:36.500 Been a while yeah luis garcia that's right you sir 85 00:05:37.199 --> 00:05:39.899 i am good thank you so much for having me 86 00:05:39.959 --> 00:05:41.759 back and the last time we talked you were on 87 00:05:41.800 --> 00:05:47.069 my show last year yes and Um, that, that went 88 00:05:47.110 --> 00:05:50.769 by fast. My goodness. And I've been, I've been watching 89 00:05:50.800 --> 00:05:54.920 all your progress with all your, uh, disciplined week over 90 00:05:54.959 --> 00:05:58.379 week episodes. So congratulations on that. Congratulations on the ads 91 00:05:58.639 --> 00:06:02.660 you've been getting and congratulations on the acting like Mr. 92 00:06:02.699 --> 00:06:07.839 Hollywood over here, uh, acting glory. That's awesome. That's all 93 00:06:07.879 --> 00:06:11.139 really cool stuff. Like you have to be excited about 94 00:06:11.160 --> 00:06:14.459 all that. I, I am. 95 00:06:15.620 --> 00:06:17.370 But I'm jaded at the same time. 96 00:06:18.079 --> 00:06:23.529 Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. That's that goes without saying the jadedness. 97 00:06:25.410 --> 00:06:28.610 We took a family like we're in a place now, 98 00:06:28.629 --> 00:06:33.129 you know, being divorced like you are. You go through 99 00:06:33.149 --> 00:06:36.189 the highs and lows of it. You know, it's like. 100 00:06:37.410 --> 00:06:39.769 You have the low points, you have the high points, 101 00:06:39.810 --> 00:06:41.649 you have the times when you're getting along with your 102 00:06:41.750 --> 00:06:44.610 ex and. making it work. And then there's things that 103 00:06:44.639 --> 00:06:47.389 come up. Well, at the beginning of the summer, that 104 00:06:47.410 --> 00:06:49.970 was probably the highest we've ever been. We, we took 105 00:06:50.009 --> 00:06:54.870 a family trip to Disney for seven days together. And 106 00:06:56.290 --> 00:06:58.910 with the X, when we stay in the hotel, we 107 00:06:59.230 --> 00:07:04.110 flew down together and things were never so volatile that 108 00:07:04.149 --> 00:07:06.569 that was not a thing, but you know, I was 109 00:07:06.589 --> 00:07:09.689 feeling pretty good, uh, down there. I was like, this is, 110 00:07:10.509 --> 00:07:13.850 you guys have put in the work. Um, But then, 111 00:07:13.889 --> 00:07:17.449 of course, it also opened up just a mental like 112 00:07:18.310 --> 00:07:20.819 just coming back and then coming back to a quiet 113 00:07:20.839 --> 00:07:25.980 house after a week of being with them and a 114 00:07:26.019 --> 00:07:30.360 new apartment and just like. Back to the routine of things, 115 00:07:30.459 --> 00:07:33.470 it really got me thinking it's time to it's time 116 00:07:33.490 --> 00:07:35.350 to really put your money where your mouth is, you know, 117 00:07:35.370 --> 00:07:39.829 like Jeff, like Jeff committed to the podcast weekly. And 118 00:07:39.879 --> 00:07:41.699 I really wanted to start getting back into like the 119 00:07:41.819 --> 00:07:45.500 performing side of things. So I joined an improv class 120 00:07:46.759 --> 00:07:53.199 and that's been going so well and got back to 121 00:07:53.220 --> 00:07:57.459 the podcasting. And then I started thinking, you know, there's 122 00:07:57.500 --> 00:08:00.240 really no, we've talked about this before, but there's a 123 00:08:00.279 --> 00:08:07.139 surprisingly low amount of support for single dads of divorce. 124 00:08:07.180 --> 00:08:11.509 There's like tons of resources for women. You know, our country, 125 00:08:11.529 --> 00:08:15.509 the judicial system favors women because, you know, the bad 126 00:08:15.600 --> 00:08:18.579 apples have made the good apples look bad. You know, like, 127 00:08:19.540 --> 00:08:22.800 you know, the laws favor females and that's a whole 128 00:08:22.839 --> 00:08:26.800 other argument. But I thought, I haven't really written about 129 00:08:26.860 --> 00:08:33.889 something that touches home and painfully. So I wrote a 130 00:08:33.990 --> 00:08:42.909 really quick 90-page screenplay comedy about a guy that starts 131 00:08:42.970 --> 00:08:46.289 a support group for divorced dads in his in his 132 00:08:48.009 --> 00:08:50.049 in his new city basically just does it on a 133 00:08:50.070 --> 00:08:54.139 whim and in the screenplay it becomes this like national 134 00:08:54.460 --> 00:08:57.419 phenomenon that he doesn't know how to handle it there's 135 00:08:57.460 --> 00:09:02.639 like different yeah there's different chapters of the it's called 136 00:09:02.659 --> 00:09:06.210 the movie is called when I'm down and his foundation 137 00:09:06.230 --> 00:09:08.129 is called the when I'm down foundation for you know 138 00:09:08.789 --> 00:09:11.970 for divorced dads, for divorced men. And it starts to 139 00:09:12.009 --> 00:09:17.960 take off, and the whole premise is written kind of 140 00:09:18.000 --> 00:09:21.220 like a social network, because he's in a trial, basically, 141 00:09:21.259 --> 00:09:24.919 because one of the members in another city, after some 142

00:09:25.620 --> 00:09:29.320 advice on the show, took his life. And they were like, 143 00:09:29.460 --> 00:09:33.500 you know, they're investigating whether or not he crossed any 144 00:09:33.559 --> 00:09:36.559 ethical boundaries by not getting this person help. And I 145 00:09:36.600 --> 00:09:38.159 just wrote it on a whim, and I wrote it 146 00:09:38.909 --> 00:09:41.470 um based on the friends that i've had that have 147 00:09:41.500 --> 00:09:44.159 dealt with it and then i started writing it based 148 00:09:44.220 --> 00:09:46.940 on different times of my life you know we're going 149 00:09:47.000 --> 00:09:49.620 on 10 years now since the divorce and you know 150 00:09:49.639 --> 00:09:52.919 when you're a newly divorced dad and you're getting used 151 00:09:52.950 --> 00:09:55.950 to that schedule with your kids you're like so energetic 152 00:09:57.029 --> 00:09:59.330 you know you still learn the ropes you want to 153 00:09:59.370 --> 00:10:02.639 have your house for you want to have their rooms 154 00:10:02.700 --> 00:10:04.919 or their rooms pristine you're buying the groceries you're talking 155 00:10:04.940 --> 00:10:07.159 to the mom like what are they like and then 156 00:10:07.179 --> 00:10:09.960 you're dealing with like that trauma at the drop-off week 157 00:10:10.019 --> 00:10:13.649 after week you know like the house is empty And 158 00:10:13.669 --> 00:10:16.309 then when you, you know, as you get older, about 159 00:10:16.370 --> 00:10:19.120 five years in the divorce, well, it's kind of like clockwork. 160 00:10:19.259 --> 00:10:22.159 Like you have your routine. They have their routine. It's 161 00:10:23.059 --> 00:10:27.100 just like, you know, everyday kind of family life. And 162 00:10:27.120 --> 00:10:29.419 then things get more complicated as the kids get into 163 00:10:29.470 --> 00:10:31.769 junior high and high school. And my daughter's going into 164 00:10:31.830 --> 00:10:35.789 high school now and has a learner's permit and going 165 00:10:35.809 --> 00:10:39.450 to school dances and all that stuff. And, you know, 166 00:10:39.549 --> 00:10:42.769 me and her mom have different viewpoints of life. Those 167 00:10:42.809 --> 00:10:45.149 kind of things. I'm a little more lenient because my 168 00:10:45.169 --> 00:10:48.669 parents weren't. She's a lot more guarded and rightfully so. 169 00:10:48.970 --> 00:10:52.409 Can't blame her. All moms should be. My son's going 170 00:10:52.429 --> 00:10:54.129 to junior high. So what I decided to do is 171 00:10:54.169 --> 00:10:59.909 base the four characters kind of on different levels or 172 00:10:59.980 --> 00:11:05.419 times of what I've experienced. We have a newly divorced dad. 173 00:11:07.019 --> 00:11:10.019 Little kids. He's about six months in. A complete panic. 174 00:11:10.600 --> 00:11:12.480 We have a more settled dad about five years in. 175 00:11:12.519 --> 00:11:15.179 We have my current situation about 10 years in where 176 00:11:15.200 --> 00:11:18.179 the kids are, you know, going into high school and 177 00:11:18.200 --> 00:11:22.580 junior high. And then I kind of pre-wrote an older 178 00:11:22.639 --> 00:11:26.879 character about 10 years from now when his daughter's about 179 00:11:26.899 --> 00:11:31.200 to get married. And he's dealing with that phase. And 180 00:11:31.259 --> 00:11:34.879 so I submitted the thing to Coverfly, the script, and 181 00:11:34.899 --> 00:11:40.100 I got like within their top 30% of rated screenplays. 182 00:11:40.139 --> 00:11:44.480 Like out of 140,000 projects, my script is in the 183 00:11:44.519 --> 00:11:49.679 top 30% of comedy dramas. And so I've been thinking like, 184 00:11:50.019 --> 00:11:52.389 I really want to develop that, you know, and have that, 185 00:11:52.850 --> 00:11:54.090 I kind of want to just have it as my 186 00:11:54.149 --> 00:11:58.690 first like actual feature film that I get done here 187 00:11:58.710 --> 00:12:00.889 in Spokane and get it done right. And of course 188 00:12:00.929 --> 00:12:03.769 we have the strikes and all this stuff going back 189 00:12:03.830 --> 00:12:09.559 and forth, but there's a lot of really untapped potential 190 00:12:09.659 --> 00:12:13.940 into that kind of market, and the fact that we're 191 00:12:13.960 --> 00:12:16.320 not really represented well. And I don't, you know, I 192 00:12:16.360 --> 00:12:19.090 can't say that, and I can't argue that, yes, the 193 00:12:19.129 --> 00:12:21.649 judicial system favors women over men. I mean, I think 194 00:12:21.669 --> 00:12:25.149 that some states are different, and I'm not too jaded 195 00:12:25.190 --> 00:12:28.129 with that kind of thing, but I've heard some horror stories, 196 00:12:28.190 --> 00:12:28.429 you know? 197 00:12:28.470 --> 00:12:35.799 I mean, with divorces, it's not to enforce the patriarchy, 198 00:12:35.840 --> 00:12:36.720 but yeah, they. 199 00:12:38.500 --> 00:12:42.629 Yeah, exactly. And, you know, it's not always easy. You know, 200 00:12:42.690 --> 00:12:46.610 I just like it's this kind of thing is something 201 00:12:46.629 --> 00:12:49.649 that doesn't it doesn't go away. Right. You just you 202 00:12:49.690 --> 00:12:51.370 just learn to deal with it. And then when you bring, 203 00:12:51.409 --> 00:12:56.169 you know, another party into the mix, we haven't been 204 00:12:56.230 --> 00:13:01.429 there yet. Like an official stepfather or stepmom or in 205 00:13:01.450 --> 00:13:04.990 my case, two stepdads that hasn't come up yet, you know, 206 00:13:05.210 --> 00:13:09.289 like seriously in the last decade. Which is, you know, 207 00:13:09.330 --> 00:13:11.870 neither here nor there. If it ever does, it's going 208 00:13:11.889 --> 00:13:15.269 to cause, you know, obviously more conflict. And I think 209 00:13:15.309 --> 00:13:17.929 it's just humans being human. Anytime that someone yous add 210 00:13:17.960 --> 00:13:18.529 it to the fold. 211 00:13:19.159 --> 00:13:19.399 Yeah. 212 00:13:20.120 -->

00:13:22.440 Cause conflict. So I added that one in one of 213 00:13:22.460 --> 00:13:26.320 the characters. The one that's five years in. His wife 214 00:13:26.899 --> 00:13:30.500 is about to get remarried. And he's struggling, you know. 215 00:13:31.600 --> 00:13:35.570 You know, and I don't know if this helps with 216 00:13:35.620 --> 00:13:36.649 your writing or not. 217 00:13:37.029 --> 00:13:42.450 But... I have a strong philosophy that I've developed of 218 00:13:43.389 --> 00:13:48.789 adults are just kids who know how to not die. 219 00:13:49.570 --> 00:13:52.090 Yeah, and they know how to drive a car. 220 00:13:53.250 --> 00:13:57.080 Well, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We learned how to drive cars, 221 00:13:57.480 --> 00:13:58.100 some of us. 222 00:13:58.700 --> 00:13:58.899 Right. 223 00:14:00.629 --> 00:14:05.009 Generally men better than women but yeah we can get. 224 00:14:04.929 --> 00:14:08.370 That's mine that's it that's a story i'm comfortable. 225 00:14:08.009 --> 00:14:13.250 With but but but but you know it's just we 226 00:14:13.809 --> 00:14:19.559 yeah we've experienced life so we're more wise but it 227 00:14:19.600 --> 00:14:21.379 doesn't mean we're smarter. 228 00:14:21.620 --> 00:14:25.500 No it just means we've gotten bigger. 229 00:14:25.299 --> 00:14:29.690 Because we've gone through puberty we've gotten fatter or taller 230 00:14:29.809 --> 00:14:33.850 whatever the hell science has gifted us with because you 231 00:14:33.889 --> 00:14:37.549 know that that's all luck too like how tall you 232 00:14:37.750 --> 00:14:40.750 are how yeah well i mean how fat you are 233 00:14:40.830 --> 00:14:44.389 maybe is partially my fault your. 234 00:14:44.250 --> 00:14:47.409 Fault you know but but that that's besides the point 235 00:14:47.929 --> 00:14:51.809 but but you know it it it's just being an 236 00:14:51.870 --> 00:14:56.250 adult just means i've learned how to live past you 237 00:14:56.309 --> 00:14:57.429 know kids age. 238 00:14:58.139 --> 00:15:03.330 Yeah, it means like I don't electrocute myself. I keep 239 00:15:03.970 --> 00:15:07.309 myself alive. I keep the kids alive. And then and then, 240 00:15:07.350 --> 00:15:09.250 you know, after the Disney trip, I went through this 241 00:15:09.289 --> 00:15:12.090 whole meta thing of like, you know, I saw people 242 00:15:12.129 --> 00:15:14.990 looking at our family. You know, my ex-wife is white. 243 00:15:15.049 --> 00:15:17.559 The kids are mixed or beautiful. And I saw people 244 00:15:17.600 --> 00:15:20.269 looking at our family and smiling and. you know, like 245 00:15:20.309 --> 00:15:22.629 how cute that family is. I'm like, if you only, 246 00:15:22.830 --> 00:15:24.669 if you know, I wanted to break the fourth wall. 247 00:15:24.750 --> 00:15:27.450 I'll be like, look, if. 248 00:15:26.850 --> 00:15:30.429 You only knew how the fuck things were. 249 00:15:31.120 --> 00:15:33.419 If you only knew the hard work we put into this, 250 00:15:33.740 --> 00:15:35.360 you know, we're going to earn this. And, you know, 251 00:15:35.399 --> 00:15:38.320 we still had little breakdowns once in a while. I 252 00:15:38.379 --> 00:15:41.360 promised myself I would not get going via Disney, but 253 00:15:41.399 --> 00:15:43.820 it happened once where I was trying to get my 254 00:15:43.879 --> 00:15:46.440 credit card into the damn app. The kids were like, 255 00:15:46.480 --> 00:15:48.039 let's go to the rides, you know? And I finally 256 00:15:48.080 --> 00:15:51.639 was just like, fine, let's just go. And obviously overreacted 257 00:15:51.659 --> 00:15:53.799 and then it got quiet. I'm like, okay, you just 258 00:15:53.820 --> 00:15:55.679 brought that in the mood. But that was like the 259 00:15:55.740 --> 00:15:57.899 extent of it. You know, there was no arguing or 260 00:15:57.940 --> 00:16:00.860 screaming or nothing like that. I did see other couples. 261 00:16:01.320 --> 00:16:04.070 I passed one dad. He had like two toddlers and 262 00:16:04.110 --> 00:16:08.210 a like five-year-old in a stroller. And he was like 263 00:16:08.929 --> 00:16:11.330 on the phone, like screaming at his wife, like just 264 00:16:11.389 --> 00:16:13.450 drop an effing pen. We're lost. 265 00:16:13.809 --> 00:16:15.029 Yeah. 266 00:16:15.440 --> 00:16:20.710 So yeah. I want to be able to, what I 267 00:16:20.769 --> 00:16:23.110 try to do with when I'm down and what I'm 268 00:16:23.370 --> 00:16:25.450 actually trying to do with like making this a real 269 00:16:25.490 --> 00:16:28.730 foundation is just get to the nitty gritty and not 270 00:16:28.769 --> 00:16:34.279 do the paper cutter self-help books of, oh, you can 271 00:16:34.299 --> 00:16:37.600 be a, you're still gonna, you know, love your, the 272 00:16:37.740 --> 00:16:40.500 mother of your child. And as long as the kids 273 00:16:40.539 --> 00:16:44.799 know that they still, you know, that's all real and accurate, right? 274 00:16:44.850 --> 00:16:47.789 But what about the day-to-day, you know, the day-to-day of 275 00:16:47.830 --> 00:16:50.509 like feeling like, complete shit over the whole thing. And 276 00:16:50.870 --> 00:16:53.169 then having weeks where you don't think about it and 277 00:16:53.220 --> 00:16:55.440 then something comes out of nowhere and then you do 278 00:16:55.480 --> 00:16:58.019 think about it. And then you're trying to wrestle with like, 279 00:16:58.299 --> 00:17:00.259 am I giving the kids enough attention? Like I got 280 00:17:00.299 --> 00:17:02.179 this bigger place to make sure my daughter had her 281 00:17:02.240 --> 00:17:04.720 own room, you know, and it's more expensive and I 282 00:17:04.720 --> 00:17:07.089 don't mind it. And I love helping her decorate it. 283 00:17:07.119 --> 00:17:09.099 And I love all that. But like when she's not here, 284 00:17:09.180 --> 00:17:11.599 it's like the dog is going and scratching at the 285 00:17:11.640 --> 00:17:15.890 door and it's heartbreaking. It's like, they're not here the

286 00:17:15.930 --> 00:17:18.809 majority of the time. And I think men don't have 287 00:17:18.849 --> 00:17:22.670 enough resources to deal with that. Like on a, on 288 00:17:22.710 --> 00:17:25.920 a general level, like we need a story to relate 289 00:17:25.960 --> 00:17:29.259 to and other men to relate to, because that's a 290 00:17:29.299 --> 00:17:31.940 lot of time to fill right between every other weekend. 291 00:17:32.839 --> 00:17:37.559 And if you're not filling it with like work, trying 292 00:17:37.579 --> 00:17:39.759 to be as healthy as possible, trying to, you know, 293 00:17:39.940 --> 00:17:43.029 improv class, like trying to get out, walk the dog, 294 00:17:43.680 --> 00:17:45.920 There's a lot of time to get into trouble and 295 00:17:46.420 --> 00:17:48.960 fuck up in the midst of all that. And I've 296 00:17:48.980 --> 00:17:52.930 had my ebbs and flows of working too much, partying 297 00:17:52.970 --> 00:17:56.769 too much, hooking up with everybody with a heartbeat. I mean, 298 00:17:57.210 --> 00:18:00.369 you name it, you know, but like I finally came 299 00:18:00.410 --> 00:18:03.789 to a realization that I think this would do really well. 300 00:18:03.829 --> 00:18:06.390 And so I'm trying to gather stories and talk to 301 00:18:06.430 --> 00:18:08.809 my friends like yourself that are dealing with it. And, 302 00:18:09.619 --> 00:18:13.539 you know, I have friends that have completely... succeeded. I 303 00:18:13.559 --> 00:18:16.779 have one friend who me and my ex weird me 304 00:18:16.799 --> 00:18:18.799 and my three friends went through divorce at the same 305 00:18:18.839 --> 00:18:21.460 time within a couple of months. And there was one 306 00:18:21.500 --> 00:18:25.859 morning where I woke up so hung over on my 307 00:18:25.900 --> 00:18:28.759 friend's couch. And then my other friend was on the 308 00:18:29.039 --> 00:18:33.509 floor hung over. And then another friend was in a 309 00:18:33.569 --> 00:18:36.190 rocking chair. And we just it must have smelled like 310 00:18:36.250 --> 00:18:39.609 a distillery in there. Because my one friend who owns 311 00:18:39.650 --> 00:18:46.109 the house, who worked overnight, Daniel we were all staying 312 00:18:46.130 --> 00:18:47.750 there and you know giving him a couple hundred bucks 313 00:18:47.769 --> 00:18:49.630 he was loving it because he had all his buds 314 00:18:49.690 --> 00:18:53.920 over right but he was the stereotypical single dude he 315 00:18:53.980 --> 00:18:56.400 comes home one morning and gets a whiff of the 316 00:18:56.700 --> 00:18:58.579 booze and sees all of us in a sad state 317 00:18:58.599 --> 00:19:00.599 and he's like oh fuck no no no we're not 318 00:19:00.640 --> 00:19:03.400 doing this this is not going to be a regular 319 00:19:03.460 --> 00:19:07.630 thing you know this is a Tuesday morning so I've 320 00:19:07.650 --> 00:19:10.660 been kind of gathering and journaling all those experiences and, 321 00:19:10.720 --> 00:19:13.960

you know, taking the worst part of it and representing 322 00:19:14.000 --> 00:19:16.599 the one character who does commit suicide. That happens all 323 00:19:16.640 --> 00:19:20.680 the time in our community, in our situation. I think 324 00:19:20.700 --> 00:19:26.990 that that's important to address the reasons why. And that 325 00:19:27.029 --> 00:19:30.369 kind of starts the whole, you know, he flashbacks to 326 00:19:30.390 --> 00:19:31.809 how it all began and then we catch up to 327 00:19:31.849 --> 00:19:35.109 the story and then we end it. And the feedback 328 00:19:35.150 --> 00:19:38.859 I've gotten is it's very heartwarming. Laugh, you cry, you laugh, 329 00:19:38.880 --> 00:19:43.140 you cry. But it's also a very realistic portrayal of 330 00:19:43.180 --> 00:19:45.589 what it's like. And it's messy, it's not perfect, you know. 331 00:19:46.150 --> 00:19:48.059 but it's, that's where we're going. 332 00:19:48.079 --> 00:19:50.839 It's fucking messy. I mean, it is. 333 00:19:51.440 --> 00:19:52.359 Yeah, it is. 334 00:19:52.839 --> 00:19:58.099 And yeah, that, that's, that's the, the literal, uh, yeah, that, that, 335 00:19:58.279 --> 00:19:59.900 that hits me in my heartstrings. 336 00:19:59.980 --> 00:20:00.839 Cause I'm, yeah. 337 00:20:01.079 --> 00:20:04.349 You know, I'm, I'm thinking about the weekends. I don't 338 00:20:04.410 --> 00:20:07.950 have my kids and, uh, you know, FaceTime just. 339 00:20:08.750 --> 00:20:12.359 Yeah. It's, It's rough. Hey, what's going on? Just wanted 340 00:20:12.380 --> 00:20:16.359 to see your face. Yeah, I want to hear your voice. 341 00:20:16.720 --> 00:20:17.480 How old are your kids? 342 00:20:18.400 --> 00:20:22.160 Right now, my daughter is 13. Oh, boy. And my 343 00:20:22.240 --> 00:20:25.809 son is 10. I think they're actually pretty close to 344 00:20:25.869 --> 00:20:26.490 your kids. 345 00:20:26.849 --> 00:20:30.289 Yeah, yeah. My son is 12. My daughter is 14. 346 00:20:30.289 --> 00:20:33.769 We went and saw Barbie last weekend. My daughter got 347 00:20:33.809 --> 00:20:36.509 dressed up in pink. I wore my pink shirt. 348 00:20:37.190 --> 00:20:38.450 How was Barbie? 349 00:20:38.970 --> 00:20:43.190 Again, either I'm going through a midlife metacrisis or I'm 350 00:20:43.230 --> 00:20:47.390 a big softie, but I cried pretty much the whole 351 00:20:47.430 --> 00:20:50.099 fucking movie. Just like a complete mess. 352 00:20:51.900 --> 00:20:52.859 I cry a lot. 353 00:20:54.079 --> 00:20:57.440 Yeah, me too. Did you see Guardians of the Galaxy 3? 354 00:20:57.440 --> 00:20:57.779 Yeah. 355 00:20:58.559 --> 00:21:00.680 Oh my god. Wow. 356 00:21:02.900 --> 00:21:06.920 You know what the worst thing is? My son, he's 357 00:21:06.980 --> 00:21:09.819 close to 11, but he sent He turns and looks 358 00:21:09.900 --> 00:21:13.240 at me to, like, see if I'm crying. And I'm like, 359 00:21:13.640 --> 00:21:14.059 fuck you. 360 00:21:15.660 --> 00:21:19.690 My son does that, too. He looks. But he's a 361 00:21:19.690 --> 00:21:22.430 very sensitive little boy, too, so he cries all the time. 362 00:21:23.990 --> 00:21:28.329 My son's like, that was emotional. And he'll turn and 363 00:21:28.369 --> 00:21:30.849 look at me, and I'm like, go fuck yourself. 364 00:21:31.509 --> 00:21:36.250 Yeah. I think it's good that they see us cry. 365 00:21:36.509 --> 00:21:39.660 I remember... When I saw my dad cry, you know, 366 00:21:39.680 --> 00:21:42.329 don't forget, you know, us, we were, we were raised 367 00:21:42.369 --> 00:21:46.269 by boomers, right? So men showing emotion. We thought it 368 00:21:46.289 --> 00:21:48.450 was hilarious when my dad cried because he would try 369 00:21:48.490 --> 00:21:50.910 to hide it. So we'd be watching a sad movie 370 00:21:51.450 --> 00:21:52.970 and we knew my dad was about to cry because 371 00:21:52.990 --> 00:21:55.470 he would start, you know, he would start doing this 372 00:21:55.490 --> 00:21:58.819 whole thing just to keep that shit in. I mean, 373 00:21:59.000 --> 00:22:04.140 I do the, I do the like. Yeah, exactly. I 374 00:22:04.180 --> 00:22:04.640 just like. 375 00:22:04.660 --> 00:22:07.079 I'm not, I'm not, I'm not crying. 376 00:22:07.630 --> 00:22:13.470 Yeah, but Barbie... I'm not great. I'm not great. Yeah, 377 00:22:13.730 --> 00:22:17.930 I'm good. Barbie had a sensitivity to it. I think 378 00:22:17.950 --> 00:22:21.089 that the world in general and the fact that it 379 00:22:21.170 --> 00:22:23.029 opened up with Oppenheimer, you know, it's kind of the 380 00:22:23.069 --> 00:22:25.390 yin and the yang, right? Like, the studios are so 381 00:22:25.470 --> 00:22:28.190 fucked right now. Incredibly fucked, you know? 382 00:22:28.210 --> 00:22:32.710 Oh, yeah, I want to talk to you about the MCU. Yeah, yeah. 383 00:22:33.589 --> 00:22:37.930 They're fucked, too. Well, I mean, what's happening with DC and, like, 384 00:22:37.970 --> 00:22:42.660 these big tentpole films is not only are people waiting 385 00:22:42.839 --> 00:22:44.900 for it to drop on a streamer, because it's so 386 00:22:44.940 --> 00:22:48.619 much more convenient, but they're just not... You know, Top 387 00:22:48.640 --> 00:22:54.380 Gun Maverick, those kind of movies get people into the theater, right? Oppenheimer, Barbie, 388 00:22:55.019 --> 00:22:58.319 horror films like Talk to Me, amazing. I just saw that. Great, 389 00:22:58.420 --> 00:23:01.759 great film. But those are so far too, you know... 390 00:23:02.170 --> 00:23:04.390 few and far between that everything else in between is 391 00:23:04.430 --> 00:23:07.410 just not getting the audience there. And like the flash, 392 00:23:07.490 --> 00:23:11.829 for instance, huge budget. I loved it. I thought of 393 00:23:11.869 --> 00:23:15.829 Michael Keaton as Batman. Oh my God. Didn't make the money. 394 00:23:16.390 --> 00:23:18.730 I didn't go see it. And I've kind of regretting it. 395 00:23:19.369 --> 00:23:21.650 It's good. It's, it's probably

playing at, you know, Florida 396 00:23:21.690 --> 00:23:24.430 has a second run theaters. I'm sure it's there somewhere. 397 00:23:25.390 --> 00:23:28.809 We have, we have second run here too. So, but yeah, my, 398 00:23:28.849 --> 00:23:32.069 my point is like the studios are just so screwed 399 00:23:32.109 --> 00:23:35.109 right now. They have to really come up with something clever. 400 00:23:35.210 --> 00:23:38.549 Cause like movies like Barbie and Oppenheimer and the marketing 401 00:23:38.569 --> 00:23:41.009 that they did opening up, opening them up together is 402 00:23:41.670 --> 00:23:44.799 basically keeping things afloat while no one's working right now. 403 00:23:44.990 --> 00:23:49.299 Like my friends in LA are not working. They're wondering 404 00:23:49.359 --> 00:23:53.599 about rent and, you know, food. And yeah, they rely 405 00:23:53.680 --> 00:23:57.220 on this like production assistant work and writing assistant work 406 00:23:57.279 --> 00:24:00.019 and It's not an easy gig. So I think the 407 00:24:00.180 --> 00:24:06.359 optimism that Barbie provided and ironically, the cautionary darkness that 408 00:24:06.480 --> 00:24:10.740 Oppenheimer drilled home. I mean, that movie, the last 10 minutes, 409 00:24:10.940 --> 00:24:14.039 you're just sitting there completely horrified about what humans are 410 00:24:14.079 --> 00:24:16.619 capable of. It's really bad. Like Barbie goes to the 411 00:24:16.680 --> 00:24:19.819 extreme that shows you how positive we can be. And 412 00:24:19.900 --> 00:24:22.119 Oppenheimer was like, this is how fucked up we can be. 413 00:24:22.880 --> 00:24:27.059 And we're capable of both. And that's a terrifying thing 414 00:24:27.079 --> 00:24:30.720 to come across. to realize. And the genius of those 415 00:24:30.779 --> 00:24:33.319 two levels opening up the same weekend, I think was 416 00:24:33.380 --> 00:24:36.299 very smart. Like the, the marketing behind those was smart. 417 00:24:37.000 --> 00:24:38.500 They just have to keep repeating that. So what I 418 00:24:38.519 --> 00:24:39.799 think is going to happen is we're going to see 419 00:24:39.839 --> 00:24:45.640 a lot more huge temple films come out same weekend MCU. 420 00:24:45.680 --> 00:24:50.660 I don't know what they're planning. I don't. Yeah. 421 00:24:51.069 --> 00:24:52.769 Have you watched secret invasion? 422 00:24:53.849 --> 00:24:58.349 I know about the ending because I, I had a feeling, 423 00:24:58.950 --> 00:25:03.369 and I saw something on TikTok where Brody comes out 424 00:25:03.450 --> 00:25:07.470 as a Skrull, and there's a new character who kind 425 00:25:07.509 --> 00:25:09.430 of beats everyone's ass at the end. She's like a 426 00:25:10.170 --> 00:25:11.869 Captain Marvel. 427 00:25:12.250 --> 00:25:13.599 Marvel, yeah. Yeah. 428 00:25:14.119 --> 00:25:17.240 So I saw some of that, but this leads into 429 00:25:17.259 --> 00:25:20.140 the Marvels, right, in November. This show leads into that. 430 00:25:20.859 --> 00:25:21.180 Does it? 431 00:25:22.140 --> 00:25:26.880 I don't know. I don't know if their writers are connecting. 432 00:25:26.740 --> 00:25:27.259 With each other. 433 00:25:28.319 --> 00:25:32.920 I think it's like, you got your thing, I got mine. 434 00:25:34.400 --> 00:25:40.150 But Nick Fury is in both Invasion. Right, yeah. I 435 00:25:40.170 --> 00:25:41.410 don't think Samuel L. 436 00:25:41.450 --> 00:25:42.710 Jackson gives a shit. 437 00:25:43.710 --> 00:25:46.650 I don't think so. He looked... I saw the first 438 00:25:46.690 --> 00:25:49.630 few episodes of Secret Invasion and I thought the tone 439 00:25:49.849 --> 00:25:52.880 was so weird to me. It was just off. I 440 00:25:53.019 --> 00:25:54.859 was like, this is not like a Marvel show. This 441 00:25:54.920 --> 00:25:55.299 is weird. 442 00:25:55.700 --> 00:26:00.180 I was so hoping for or something that didn't happen. 443 00:26:00.680 --> 00:26:02.940 Yeah. So did you watch all of the episodes? 444 00:26:03.380 --> 00:26:03.700 Yes. 445 00:26:04.160 --> 00:26:04.420 Yeah. 446 00:26:05.299 --> 00:26:05.779 What did you think? 447 00:26:08.799 --> 00:26:13.549 I wish there was more coherent connective tissue. 448 00:26:14.150 --> 00:26:14.890 Yeah. 449 00:26:15.109 --> 00:26:19.130 I think the problem with Marvel is that almost everything 450 00:26:19.170 --> 00:26:22.789 they've done in the past two, three years, aside from 451 00:26:22.990 --> 00:26:27.109 Guardians 3, which I think was actually a good, you know. 452 00:26:27.150 --> 00:26:28.579 Beautiful. Beautiful movie. 453 00:26:28.940 --> 00:26:33.920 Yeah. I think everything else they've done is like a 454 00:26:34.000 --> 00:26:36.240 commercial for what's coming next. 455 00:26:36.759 --> 00:26:40.400 Yeah. It's like we can never just relax and enjoy it. 456 00:26:40.500 --> 00:26:42.920 It's like, guess what's coming? 457 00:26:43.650 --> 00:26:50.670 Yeah. It's never here is a great product we're presenting you. 458 00:26:51.450 --> 00:26:54.119 It's here's the commercial for what's coming up. 459 00:26:55.730 --> 00:26:59.009 Yeah. Yeah. It got a little old. That formula from 460 00:26:59.349 --> 00:27:01.509 the first few phases got old and they need to, 461 00:27:01.609 --> 00:27:03.950 they need to do something. They need to, I think 462 00:27:03.970 --> 00:27:08.779 a phase of just original films that don't connect would 463 00:27:08.799 --> 00:27:10.740 be way more interesting for a little bit. 464 00:27:11.359 --> 00:27:11.640 Yeah. 465 00:27:12.140 --> 00:27:14.420 Just like original, you know, we need to see like 466 00:27:14.720 --> 00:27:18.299 Shang-Chi too. That doesn't have to necessarily connect to anything. 467 00:27:18.339 --> 00:27:20.640 Why not just give them a standalone adventure? Like that 468 00:27:20.680 --> 00:27:24.029 was a great movie. And yeah, The Eternals. The Eternals 469 00:27:24.289 --> 00:27:27.710 was not a good movie at all. They should have. Yeah. 470 00:27:28.099 -->

00:27:30.799 Like bring if you're going to do another one, make 471 00:27:30.859 --> 00:27:35.420 sure you amp up the stakes. Guardians Reed was great 472 00:27:35.460 --> 00:27:40.539 because it focused on one character. Right. Focused on Rockets journey. 473 00:27:41.079 --> 00:27:44.180 And it was like a love letter to PETA. That 474 00:27:44.200 --> 00:27:49.250 movie was like. All anti-animal abuse. And it was so sad. 475 00:27:49.490 --> 00:27:52.650 But at the end of the episode, it left all 476 00:27:52.690 --> 00:27:55.369 of the characters with a clear... Ending. 477 00:27:56.329 --> 00:27:56.910 Trajectory. 478 00:27:57.190 --> 00:27:58.589 Peter came back to Earth. 479 00:27:59.309 --> 00:28:00.069 Yeah. 480 00:28:00.210 --> 00:28:04.910 Nebula and Drax were parenting the orphans. 481 00:28:06.019 --> 00:28:07.279 Yeah, that was so cute. 482 00:28:07.799 --> 00:28:11.960 Rocket and Groot were the new generation of the Guardians. 483 00:28:12.500 --> 00:28:13.490 Yeah. I. 484 00:28:14.019 --> 00:28:17.880 You know, everyone had a, you. 485 00:28:17.819 --> 00:28:21.819 Know, something to do. I think that they should do 486 00:28:22.359 --> 00:28:27.960 a show on Disney Plus called Gramps and Quill, or 487 00:28:28.019 --> 00:28:31.119 Quill and Gramps, and just do two seasons of Quill 488 00:28:31.720 --> 00:28:34.700 at home on Earth, sitcom style. I think it'd be hilarious. 489 00:28:34.759 --> 00:28:37.940 Just him readjusting to everything he's missed and his dad 490 00:28:38.009 --> 00:28:40.839 is random. trying to catch him up. That would be 491 00:28:40.880 --> 00:28:41.599 cute and funny. 492 00:28:41.619 --> 00:28:44.440 He should be hosting a podcast. 493 00:28:44.980 --> 00:28:50.420 Yeah, exactly. We could still have enemies and villains in 494 00:28:50.460 --> 00:28:51.380 that setup, too. 495 00:28:51.480 --> 00:28:54.119 Hey, Steve Rogers, how are you? 496 00:28:54.710 --> 00:29:00.210 Yeah, exactly. Steve, old as hell. You would think that 497 00:29:00.230 --> 00:29:03.089 they would want to do something playful like WandaVision was 498 00:29:03.130 --> 00:29:06.369 so playful and so fun. That was so good. But 499 00:29:07.069 --> 00:29:08.089 yeah yeah. 500 00:29:08.049 --> 00:29:11.319 Well i i i do think the ultimate problem with 501 00:29:11.839 --> 00:29:17.000 the mcu right now is that it's all commercials for them. 502 00:29:17.259 --> 00:29:19.480 Yeah they just won't they just can't like you said 503 00:29:19.500 --> 00:29:23.059 they just can't relax. 504 00:29:22.619 --> 00:29:25.759 We're we're not trying to make a great product we're 505 00:29:25.819 --> 00:29:30.599 trying to create a commercial for the next thing yeah 506 00:29:31.849 --> 00:29:35.650 But we're sick of waiting for the next thing. Just 507 00:29:35.650 --> 00:29:37.549 give us something good. 508 00:29:37.549 --> 00:29:42.380 Yeah. And they they invented right they invented the the 509 00:29:42.599 --> 00:29:48.470 the post-credit phenomenon where no you just spent two hours 510 00:29:49.250 --> 00:29:52.369 you know a traditional film should satisfy you in two 511 00:29:52.390 --> 00:29:56.230 hours and you shouldn't have to wait to see what's 512 00:29:56.470 --> 00:29:59.980 poking around next after the credits, like, Ooh, what's, and 513 00:30:00.019 --> 00:30:02.819 that gets old. And now what's happening as other, other 514 00:30:02.859 --> 00:30:05.579 franchises have started doing it. Godzilla started doing it. And 515 00:30:05.599 --> 00:30:08.940 that was awful. Like, I don't care about Godzilla and 516 00:30:09.069 --> 00:30:11.430 King Kong and who else is going to come up 517 00:30:11.470 --> 00:30:13.829 from the ocean and the next monster verse or a 518 00:30:14.349 --> 00:30:19.309 lot of these, a lot of these films. Yeah. It's 519 00:30:19.329 --> 00:30:23.220 just like, not everything has to be a goddamn franchise. 520 00:30:23.319 --> 00:30:25.910 What about, And I think that's why Oppenheimer and Barbie, 521 00:30:26.170 --> 00:30:29.470 God forbid, they do a Barbie 2. There's no point. 522 00:30:29.809 --> 00:30:31.930 I mean, the ending was so brilliant. There's no reason 523 00:30:31.970 --> 00:30:35.170 to do another one. Oppenheimer, we all know how that ended. 524 00:30:35.309 --> 00:30:39.339 There's no reason, there's no sequel for that coming. Top 525 00:30:39.359 --> 00:30:43.900 Gun 3, maybe. I doubt it, right? That was a 526 00:30:43.940 --> 00:30:47.019 brilliant ending. There's no need to, you know, that was 527 00:30:47.039 --> 00:30:49.279 like a, that was a modern meta film, you know, 528 00:30:49.319 --> 00:30:54.299 and now everything's trying to be multi-dimensional and seven versions 529 00:30:54.380 --> 00:30:57.519 of me and you and seven different worlds and meeting 530 00:30:57.539 --> 00:31:01.940 your meeting your other self. And everything's a multiverse. Yeah, 531 00:31:02.000 --> 00:31:04.740 everything's a multiverse. Like stop using as an excuse to 532 00:31:04.799 --> 00:31:09.140 bring back nostalgia and just like write more cleverly. Don't 533 00:31:09.200 --> 00:31:11.490 use it as a trope because The Flash did that. 534 00:31:11.690 --> 00:31:14.809 They did this this whole thing where he was opening 535 00:31:14.890 --> 00:31:16.849 up all these portals and then they started bringing back 536 00:31:17.009 --> 00:31:21.230 every Superman that ever played Superman. And it was cool. Right. 537 00:31:21.289 --> 00:31:23.670 It was cool to see them. We saw Christopher Reeve. 538 00:31:23.690 --> 00:31:25.519 We even they even show I don't want to spoil it, 539 00:31:25.690 --> 00:31:27.869 but they show the Nick Cage one that never got 540 00:31:27.910 --> 00:31:31.309 to be filmed that he popped up. Oh, oh, I'm 541 00:31:31.329 --> 00:31:34.779 sitting there fanboying, freaking out like, oh, this is amazing. Oh, 542 00:31:34.819 --> 00:31:37.220 my God. But then I thought about it. I'm like, well, 543 00:31:37.259 -->

00:31:40.880 none of that was necessary at all. That made no sense. 544 00:31:41.900 --> 00:31:45.059 But I just think that it's a weird time right 545 00:31:45.099 --> 00:31:47.319 now for the studios. I think they're going to go 546 00:31:47.359 --> 00:31:50.339 back to doing the indie thing. And then, you know, 547 00:31:50.380 --> 00:31:53.720 my other complaint is everyone is a filmmaker now, too. 548 00:31:54.059 --> 00:31:57.640 Everyone's an influencer. Everyone and their mom and even their 549 00:31:57.680 --> 00:32:03.509 mom are now making movies. So the saturation alone is 550 00:32:03.549 --> 00:32:06.750 just so crazy to me, even from when I was 551 00:32:07.210 --> 00:32:09.910 in film school. And that was a digital era when 552 00:32:10.309 --> 00:32:13.069 everything was going digital. And so everyone had, you know, 553 00:32:13.269 --> 00:32:15.410 didn't have to pay for film being processed and it 554 00:32:15.430 --> 00:32:19.460 wasn't video. And that just opened up. with technology growing, 555 00:32:19.480 --> 00:32:22.039 it just opens up and saturates the market. Everyone with 556 00:32:22.079 --> 00:32:25.180 a phone now wants to be famous and can be. 557 00:32:25.319 --> 00:32:29.660 You don't even have to have 20,000 followers now. Amazon's 558 00:32:29.700 --> 00:32:33.809 paying people with 5,000 followers. They call them micro-influencers. It's 559 00:32:33.849 --> 00:32:37.700 like everyone wants to be famous. No one wants to 560 00:32:37.720 --> 00:32:42.069 do the work. To be famous growing up when I 561 00:32:42.109 --> 00:32:44.190 grew up was you had to have some talent to 562 00:32:44.230 --> 00:32:47.460 be famous. You had to stand out. And now it's like, Oh, 563 00:32:47.500 --> 00:32:47.960 you have a phone? 564 00:32:47.980 --> 00:32:49.880 It's going to be popular on social media. 565 00:32:50.200 --> 00:32:54.140 Yeah. You have a phone? You have a six-pack? You 566 00:32:54.160 --> 00:32:56.039 have a big ass if you're a woman or big, 567 00:32:56.079 --> 00:32:59.680 huge knockers? Hey, you're famous now. Show those babies off 568 00:33:00.039 --> 00:33:05.480 and sell some vitamins for us while you're at it. 569 00:33:05.960 --> 00:33:07.940 It's crazy. I don't know what's going to happen. I 570 00:33:07.960 --> 00:33:11.980 feel like every time there's these huge industrial changes, we 571 00:33:12.059 --> 00:33:16.039 always end up going back to the original. Yeah. Back 572 00:33:16.059 --> 00:33:18.900 when I started doing podcasts in 2010, no one gave 573 00:33:18.940 --> 00:33:21.339 a shit about podcasts. Adam Carolla was the only one 574 00:33:21.380 --> 00:33:24.119 doing it on the regular, right? Ace man. He's been 575 00:33:24.140 --> 00:33:28.400 doing it since. Ace man. 06. He got fired. Adam 576 00:33:28.440 --> 00:33:32.309 got fired from the radio station, from the Z100 or whatever, 577 00:33:32.329 --> 00:33:36.589 or CBS radio. And then he, in pure Adam Carolla form, 578 00:33:36.630

--> 00:33:39.289 he just found something new to do. And I remember 579 00:33:39.309 --> 00:33:41.690 the early days of podcasting with him. You know, like 580 00:33:41.789 --> 00:33:45.069 I was a fervent and devoted listener because he was 581 00:33:45.150 --> 00:33:47.089 the love line guy and I just loved what he 582 00:33:47.130 --> 00:33:51.019 had to say, you know, and he still speaks words 583 00:33:51.059 --> 00:33:52.799 of wisdom. You know, we talk about Adam all the time. 584 00:33:52.839 --> 00:33:54.759 He does not hold back and it doesn't make him 585 00:33:54.819 --> 00:33:57.460 a popular person. But my point is now we're all 586 00:33:57.480 --> 00:33:59.859 going back to radio and radio was the oldest form 587 00:33:59.880 --> 00:34:02.859 of entertainment. You know, our grandparents were listening to that 588 00:34:03.160 --> 00:34:05.119 when they were kids and now everyone's going back to radio. 589 00:34:05.750 --> 00:34:08.789 I spend the majority of my week listening to Mark Mirren, 590 00:34:09.190 --> 00:34:12.989 Adam and Drew, you know, all my other favorite. What's 591 00:34:13.010 --> 00:34:16.750 the guy's name? Andrew Whiskey Ginger. I mean, he's amazing. 592 00:34:16.869 --> 00:34:22.650 Like there's a show. Whiskey Ginger is he's a redheaded kid. Yeah, 593 00:34:22.730 --> 00:34:24.489 I'm such a big fan. I can't remember. I'm great. 594 00:34:25.250 --> 00:34:29.400 But it's just weird. I'm curious to see where we're 595 00:34:29.420 --> 00:34:31.480 going to be in in two years and then of 596 00:34:31.500 --> 00:34:33.739 course you know if we're not invaded by aliens because 597 00:34:33.780 --> 00:34:35.139 that's apparently the big thing. 598 00:34:35.039 --> 00:34:39.329 Yeah uh apparently apparently aliens don't matter. 599 00:34:39.389 --> 00:34:41.789 And and no one and tossing him to the side 600 00:34:41.809 --> 00:34:46.349 no no i'm it's it's it's crazy that no one 601 00:34:46.389 --> 00:34:48.389 gives a shit right because when i was you know 602 00:34:48.949 --> 00:34:51.329 a kid when you were a young person too like 603 00:34:51.369 --> 00:34:54.590 remember independence day was like the cautionary ooh we're not 604 00:34:54.630 --> 00:34:57.550 alone this is scary They're coming to get us. V, 605 00:34:57.670 --> 00:34:59.150 you know, they're going to tear their faces off. They're 606 00:34:59.170 --> 00:35:01.630 going to be reptilian. They're coming for our water. War 607 00:35:01.650 --> 00:35:04.230 of the worlds. All this stuff was scary. And now 608 00:35:04.909 --> 00:35:08.369 their government agents are saying, oh, we've been hiding aliens 609 00:35:09.199 --> 00:35:14.800 for 20 years. People are like, cool. Yeah. What are 610 00:35:14.840 --> 00:35:16.760 you doing this week? A new barbecue? And it's just 611 00:35:17.340 --> 00:35:20.780 the world is so ass backwards right now. And so 612 00:35:20.820 --> 00:35:23.320 I just think that the world needs a hug. I 613 00:35:23.340 -->

00:35:26.429 think everybody needs to go into their quiet corner and 614 00:35:26.530 --> 00:35:28.090 figure out what they want to do and who they 615 00:35:28.130 --> 00:35:29.409 want to be. And we need to. 616 00:35:29.730 --> 00:35:30.670 Take a time out. 617 00:35:31.369 --> 00:35:31.590 Yeah. 618 00:35:31.789 --> 00:35:34.260 Reset. I just think we need a reset and I'm 619 00:35:34.280 --> 00:35:38.039 not talking COVID part two. I'm talking maybe, you know, 620 00:35:38.079 --> 00:35:40.360 maybe we just all go on strike and don't go 621 00:35:40.380 --> 00:35:42.760 to work for a month and flip the economy and 622 00:35:42.920 --> 00:35:44.059 fuck the corporations over. 623 00:35:44.119 --> 00:35:48.250 And, you know, I, I, I like listening to the 624 00:35:48.349 --> 00:35:49.989 Ponderol podcast. 625 00:35:50.750 --> 00:35:53.530 Thank you. Thank you very much. I love listening to 626 00:35:53.550 --> 00:35:54.530 your show. Yeah. 627 00:35:55.139 --> 00:35:57.469 You got the hiccups. 628 00:35:58.269 --> 00:36:00.590 I'm having a blast right now watching you. This is great. 629 00:36:01.829 --> 00:36:04.909 I'll try to edit the hiccups out of this. 630 00:36:05.329 --> 00:36:06.780 No, please don't. Please don't. 631 00:36:10.320 --> 00:36:21.989 But listening to your podcast, trying to speak authoritatively. But Uh, 632 00:36:22.820 --> 00:36:27.400 you brought up some decent points about everyone revolting. 633 00:36:27.420 --> 00:36:31.380 Yeah. General strike. You know, it's like, you know, when 634 00:36:31.500 --> 00:36:34.159 something goes down in France, they, France, they try to 635 00:36:34.179 --> 00:36:36.730 change the age to retire. They try to bring it up, 636 00:36:36.789 --> 00:36:38.590 I think by a year. So what the workers did 637 00:36:38.630 --> 00:36:40.550 is they didn't go to work and they burnt everything 638 00:36:40.590 --> 00:36:43.809 in the ground until the government listened. So the Sicilians, 639 00:36:44.130 --> 00:36:46.210 the Italians are the same way. You want to fuck 640 00:36:46.230 --> 00:36:47.320 with like anything labor. 641 00:36:47.340 --> 00:36:48.070 Yeah. 642 00:36:48.380 --> 00:36:50.550 They're going to, just not go to work and they're 643 00:36:50.570 --> 00:36:54.900 going to burn shit down. Exactly. And I think Americans 644 00:36:55.039 --> 00:36:57.260 need to have a little more of the French Italian, 645 00:36:57.519 --> 00:37:00.019 you know, the French, no one revolutionizes like the French. 646 00:37:00.039 --> 00:37:03.000 I mean, they will, they'll do it for a decade, right? 647 00:37:03.039 --> 00:37:04.980 French revolution. Like I don't even know if that was 648 00:37:05.019 --> 00:37:08.199 a decade, but they made some changes. Right. So I'm 649 00:37:08.219 --> 00:37:10.260 just saying if we all collectively, and we can just 650 00:37:10.280 --> 00:37:12.199 do it by state, you know, the state of Florida, 651 00:37:12.500 --> 00:37:16.000 July 12th, 2025, no one buy

anything or go to 652 00:37:16.039 --> 00:37:18.110 work for the weekend. Just give them a little taste 653 00:37:18.179 --> 00:37:19.880 of what we can do. And then we roll over 654 00:37:19.920 --> 00:37:22.019 to New York, does it? And then we don't listen. 655 00:37:22.039 --> 00:37:25.300 Then we all collectively pool our money together and just 656 00:37:25.360 --> 00:37:29.199 stop supporting these bastard corporations that live off the backs 657 00:37:29.239 --> 00:37:31.110 of the working man. It's like something's got to give 658 00:37:31.130 --> 00:37:33.550 because this is going to keep repeating itself every 20 years. 659 00:37:33.570 --> 00:37:37.969 That's why this strike with, you know, the WGA and SAG, 660 00:37:38.230 --> 00:37:40.570 I don't see that really getting better unless there's a 661 00:37:40.630 --> 00:37:43.699 drastic change. And the directors and the producers guilds need 662 00:37:43.739 --> 00:37:46.250 to start joining this too and just being like, We're 663 00:37:46.269 --> 00:37:48.530 not going to produce work, which means you're not going 664 00:37:48.550 --> 00:37:52.409 to get your bonuses. So make the residuals. I mean, 665 00:37:52.429 --> 00:37:55.380 the fact that someone works on Gilmore Girls, James Gunn's 666 00:37:55.409 --> 00:37:59.780 brother was working on Gilmore Girls and Netflix made millions 667 00:37:59.860 --> 00:38:03.000 off the reruns of that. And he hasn't seen barely 668 00:38:03.039 --> 00:38:05.579 a penny of those residuals. That's just one example of 669 00:38:05.639 --> 00:38:08.019 many actors that get screwed. And yeah. 670 00:38:08.039 --> 00:38:08.159 Yeah. 671 00:38:08.619 --> 00:38:10.599 I'm getting, I'm going to get off my soapbox here soon, 672 00:38:10.659 --> 00:38:13.079 but I just think that we need to do something. 673 00:38:13.099 --> 00:38:15.800 Something's got to give, you know, so I'm not sure 674 00:38:15.860 --> 00:38:16.550 what it's going to take. 675 00:38:16.570 --> 00:38:19.309 You need to get off your soapbox. 676 00:38:20.730 --> 00:38:23.230 I'm just frustrated. You know, it's like, it's just, it's 677 00:38:23.250 --> 00:38:26.170 just rough to watch. It's just like when you see 678 00:38:26.190 --> 00:38:28.250 the amount of money, the amount of money and the 679 00:38:28.510 --> 00:38:33.210 financial discrepancies, right. Between these people that make these bonuses, 680 00:38:33.289 --> 00:38:36.190 millions of dollars bonuses, you know, and then, but also 681 00:38:36.230 --> 00:38:39.119 get the tax write-off like, How does that work? You 682 00:38:39.139 --> 00:38:40.900 make billions of dollars, but you get to write that 683 00:38:41.000 --> 00:38:44.000 off or not pay taxes on it. These are the 684 00:38:44.039 --> 00:38:47.739 same people voting against student debt relief and free lunches 685 00:38:47.800 --> 00:38:51.929 for kids. They're influencing that because that means less profits 686 00:38:51.989 --> 00:38:55.329 for certain food

manufacturers. 687 00:38:55.530 --> 00:38:56.250 I would argue. 688 00:38:56.849 --> 00:38:58.269 Okay. I like it. Let's argue. 689 00:39:00.269 --> 00:39:04.329 I would argue they're politically in the same realm. 690 00:39:04.650 --> 00:39:05.849 Oh, yeah. The thing is. 691 00:39:09.309 --> 00:39:13.949 I mean, is that not the liberal elite? 692 00:39:14.190 --> 00:39:20.260 Oh, of course it is. I mean, everyone's a problem, 693 00:39:20.300 --> 00:39:22.860 but yeah, the liberal elites are the ones, you know, 694 00:39:22.880 --> 00:39:24.599 Hollywood is super liberal, right? 695 00:39:24.730 --> 00:39:31.079 They're right we're holier than thou and fuck everyone. 696 00:39:30.760 --> 00:39:34.679 Else yeah and they've they've created this this how do 697 00:39:34.699 --> 00:39:38.260 i put it they've created an industry that has these 698 00:39:38.360 --> 00:39:41.159 glass walls and gatekeepers and it's it's a it's a 699 00:39:41.239 --> 00:39:44.179 special club right so you have to jump like for 700 00:39:44.219 --> 00:39:46.300 me and you to go work for you know for 701 00:39:46.400 --> 00:39:47.860 i'm not going to say where i work online but 702 00:39:48.380 --> 00:39:50.869 For me to get into the tech industry, which was 703 00:39:50.909 --> 00:39:53.610 something I wasn't a part of, I was a finance person, right? 704 00:39:53.889 --> 00:39:57.170 I worked in finance and sales, but I wanted to 705 00:39:57.210 --> 00:40:01.179 work for tech startups. So I saw a YouTube video 706 00:40:01.280 --> 00:40:03.420 on how cool Google looked. I'm like, I want a 707 00:40:03.440 --> 00:40:05.599 ping pong table at work. That's cool. To me, that 708 00:40:05.619 --> 00:40:07.599 was cool at that time. I was younger. So I 709 00:40:07.619 --> 00:40:09.199 was like, that's my goal. I want to get my 710 00:40:09.239 --> 00:40:12.059 foot in the door for the tech industry. So I 711 00:40:12.099 --> 00:40:15.449 found a finance job that was a tech finance company 712 00:40:15.550 --> 00:40:17.510 and hired me entry level. And I worked my way 713 00:40:17.610 --> 00:40:21.010 up to now where I'm managing a team of other techs. 714 00:40:21.269 --> 00:40:23.730 That took me almost a decade, about six years to 715 00:40:23.750 --> 00:40:26.650 get to that level. And so that's a normal trajectory. 716 00:40:26.769 --> 00:40:30.530 Like if you wanted to get into the wine industry, well, 717 00:40:30.590 --> 00:40:32.869 you would find a mentor. You would find a wine 718 00:40:32.929 --> 00:40:35.070 shop in Sarasota. You're in Sarasota, right? 719 00:40:35.510 --> 00:40:37.280 I'm a little north of Sarasota. Okay. 720 00:40:37.539 --> 00:40:42.610 You would find a wine... mentor or a wine store. 721 00:40:42.849 --> 00:40:45.630 You would start being a clerk for them. You would 722 00:40:45.650 --> 00:40:48.670 learn everything you wanted to learn about wine. Before you 723 00:40:48.690 --> 00:40:52.730 know it, Jeff McElhino's Cabernet Sauvignon is out

in 10 724 00:40:52.730 --> 00:40:55.880 years and you've got a wine industry. That's what real 725 00:40:56.199 --> 00:40:58.340 capitalism should be. You should be able to get into 726 00:40:58.360 --> 00:41:02.639 an industry just by trying and putting your best foot forward. 727 00:41:03.239 --> 00:41:06.579 The film and television industry is like, no, nope, no, no, no. 728 00:41:06.860 --> 00:41:09.389 To be at our level, You have to jump through 729 00:41:09.409 --> 00:41:11.530 all these hoops. You have to go through film school. 730 00:41:11.800 --> 00:41:13.559 You have to be through MBA. And they say that 731 00:41:13.599 --> 00:41:17.000 you don't, right? But still only a select few of 732 00:41:17.059 --> 00:41:20.159 people ever see their work picked up by a distribution company. 733 00:41:20.400 --> 00:41:24.059 I mean, the chances of you making a successful career 734 00:41:24.079 --> 00:41:27.789 in television and film and the thing is, it's in 735 00:41:28.409 --> 00:41:30.530 any department. Like you could say, oh no, I want 736 00:41:30.550 --> 00:41:32.750 to be a makeup artist and that's my way in. Well, no, 737 00:41:32.769 --> 00:41:35.230 it's not because you have to join the makeup union. 738 00:41:35.469 --> 00:41:37.369 You have to get on all these projects. It's like, 739 00:41:37.820 --> 00:41:42.019 these these this this whole entertainment industry has built kind 740 00:41:42.039 --> 00:41:45.880 of like this club like mentality and the studios so 741 00:41:45.920 --> 00:41:50.289 far exactly so what if what if people just started 742 00:41:50.650 --> 00:41:53.389 taking their money out of that system out of the 743 00:41:53.429 --> 00:41:56.929 streaming system and started making local communities and pooling their 744 00:41:56.969 --> 00:42:00.820 money and funding each other's projects that way and distributing 745 00:42:00.840 --> 00:42:05.659 them through youtube through like online platforms because youtube if 746 00:42:05.679 --> 00:42:08.519 you if you notice youtube is being very careful right now. 747 00:42:08.739 --> 00:42:12.110 They're staying away from this whole SAG thing. They're staying 748 00:42:12.119 --> 00:42:15.510 away from the Writers Guild. Anybody on their platform that's 749 00:42:15.869 --> 00:42:19.650 a member that are actively supporting and they're actively warning people, 750 00:42:19.909 --> 00:42:22.769 don't cross that line. Don't be a scab. Don't use 751 00:42:22.789 --> 00:42:25.650 this as an opportunity to start doing work for the studios. 752 00:42:26.309 --> 00:42:27.769 And it's interesting, you know? 753 00:42:29.730 --> 00:42:36.219 I'll speak against YouTube, but I've had issues with YouTube. 754 00:42:36.929 --> 00:42:40.670 Oh yeah. YouTube is not anywhere near perfect. But what 755 00:42:40.690 --> 00:42:43.940 I'm saying is like, there's an opportunity for YouTube to 756 00:42:43.980 --> 00:42:46.340 maybe start, you know, I don't know. There's just an 757 00:42:46.380 --> 00:42:49.800 opportunity for a conversation about changing the way the system 758 00:42:50.159 --> 00:42:52.659 works now, because if you have, if you have a 759 00:42:53.000 --> 00:42:56.710 majority of your workers not wanting to work because they're 760 00:42:56.730 --> 00:43:00.909 not feeling appreciated. And then another version of those employees 761 00:43:01.369 --> 00:43:05.960 joins that version and writers guild was first on the actors. Well, 762 00:43:06.000 --> 00:43:08.000 you don't have a script without, you don't have a 763 00:43:08.019 --> 00:43:10.019 movie without a script. You don't have a movie without 764 00:43:10.039 --> 00:43:13.030 the actors. You know, if the directors and producers guilds 765 00:43:13.090 --> 00:43:16.190 get in on this, something's going to have to change. Right. 766 00:43:16.210 --> 00:43:18.699 And it's going to have to be beneficial for everybody. And, 767 00:43:18.780 --> 00:43:23.829 and the, Financial disparities is just overwhelming and it's disgusting 768 00:43:23.869 --> 00:43:27.969 to watch. And inflation has been disgusting to watch. You know, 769 00:43:28.050 --> 00:43:30.380 I have a whole routine where my kids are coming 770 00:43:30.429 --> 00:43:32.840 over for the weekend. I go to Winco. I go 771 00:43:32.860 --> 00:43:35.900 down my list of meals, 75, 80 bucks. Boom, we're 772 00:43:35.920 --> 00:43:40.480 good for the long weekend. Now it's like 120, 160, double. 773 00:43:40.760 --> 00:43:46.300 For a bag of potatoes was $ 2. 50. Now it's five, five, 774 00:43:46.340 --> 00:43:48.519 six bucks for a bag of potatoes. And no one 775 00:43:48.539 --> 00:43:50.739 can explain why. No one can really, you know, they 776 00:43:50.780 --> 00:43:54.010 want to blame Biden. Cool. Awesome. They want to blame 777 00:43:54.730 --> 00:43:57.369 our trade industry is cool. Awesome. But no one can 778 00:43:57.409 --> 00:43:59.969 really pinpoint like why this is going on. You know, 779 00:44:00.030 --> 00:44:05.070 why is gas stuck at $ 4 and something? So, you know. 780 00:44:05.909 --> 00:44:06.989 That's my take on it. 781 00:44:08.190 --> 00:44:16.289 No, I don't disagree or hate this. Hey, it's me, 782 00:44:16.670 --> 00:44:19.510 Sober Jeff. And I'm here to tell you about Xsense. 783 00:44:20.190 --> 00:44:23.829 Xsense is an innovative company providing home safety products including 784 00:44:23.889 --> 00:44:28.030 cutting-edge smoke detectors, carbon monoxide alarms, and other smart home 785 00:44:28.050 --> 00:44:30.750 security systems designed to keep you and your loved ones 786 00:44:30.789 --> 00:44:36.659 safe 24-7. 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This is great. 802 00:45:38.349 --> 00:45:40.650 I think this is entertaining. And like I said, it's 803 00:45:40.710 --> 00:45:41.369 on par for. 804 00:45:41.809 --> 00:45:48.460 So, I do think there is a problem with children nowadays. 805 00:45:48.920 --> 00:45:49.460 And I. 806 00:45:49.800 --> 00:45:54.699 Again, don't jump on the stupid thing that I say. 807 00:45:54.980 --> 00:45:56.519 Just hear me out. 808 00:45:56.719 --> 00:45:58.139 Yeah. I do. 809 00:45:58.739 --> 00:46:03.880 I do think there's a problem with the gender dynamics 810 00:46:05.989 --> 00:46:12.929 that exists in this country. And, you know, this is 811 00:46:13.010 --> 00:46:16.260 from a lot of talks to my daughter, who's on 812 00:46:16.300 --> 00:46:23.280 the autism spectrum, but she'll tell me, babe, Basically, a 813 00:46:23.340 --> 00:46:26.880 lot of her friends are confused, don't know what, and 814 00:46:27.219 --> 00:46:31.550 they decide they're just gonna identify as the other gender. 815 00:46:34.489 --> 00:46:45.639 But that's not a fucking thing. That's generated... I don't... Again, obviously, 816 00:46:45.960 --> 00:46:49.679 I'm not saying it's not a thing. I'm saying, why 817 00:46:49.760 --> 00:46:53.690 the fuck are we telling children that if you don't 818 00:46:53.929 --> 00:46:57.150 know what you're doing, just identify as the other, the gender, 819 00:46:57.190 --> 00:47:00.650 that's your, your get out of jail free card for 820 00:47:00.730 --> 00:47:06.780 your awkwardness. Um, and I'm, I'm, I'm saying obviously, you know, 821 00:47:07.199 --> 00:47:10.920 I'm not, I, I, I think, you know, I'm not homophobic. 822 00:47:10.940 --> 00:47:14.239 I don't, I don't, I don't believe in phobic or anything, 823 00:47:14.840 --> 00:47:22.619 but I get really disgusted when my daughter's like, Well, 824 00:47:22.699 --> 00:47:26.420 my friend is depressed, and she thinks she might be 825 00:47:26.460 --> 00:47:29.880 a boy now. I'm like, no, she's not a fucking boy. 826 00:47:30.400 --> 00:47:31.619 She's fucking depressed. 827 00:47:33.320 --> 00:47:33.960 Stop. 828 00:47:34.179 --> 00:47:37.159 This is not a fucking... Why is this a thing? 829 00:47:37.179 --> 00:47:39.050 I get so angry. 830 00:47:39.280 --> 00:47:44.329 Yeah, yeah. I can see... I don't have, like... I mean, 831 00:47:44.630 --> 00:47:48.010 so my whole take on... On the, you know, and 832 00:47:48.190 --> 00:47:51.070 it's so funny that now we have to like tiptoe 833 00:47:51.570 --> 00:47:53.820 over everything we say in our public, you know, and 834 00:47:53.969 --> 00:47:57.460 that's unfortunate because when you can't sit down and have 835 00:47:57.480 --> 00:48:02.440 a conversation about things, that's dangerous. Like I remember. 836 00:48:02.460 --> 00:48:02.539 Yeah. 837 00:48:03.440 --> 00:48:07.969 I remember these skateboard punks that my brothers were always 838 00:48:08.010 --> 00:48:11.289 in trouble with or always wanting to fight. Well, like 839 00:48:11.289 --> 00:48:14.090 12 of these kids showed up to my house one day, 840 00:48:14.690 --> 00:48:17.739 ready to fuck, fuck up. the whole all my brothers 841 00:48:17.780 --> 00:48:20.429 and cousins and my dad happened to be home on 842 00:48:20.489 --> 00:48:22.329 a whim i don't know how or why it must 843 00:48:22.369 --> 00:48:25.710 have been uh angelic direction or whatever so my dad 844 00:48:25.750 --> 00:48:27.530 comes out and he's like what the hell are all 845 00:48:27.570 --> 00:48:29.670 these kids doing here and he had no idea that 846 00:48:29.710 --> 00:48:31.769 we had had these feuds right and uh i was 847 00:48:31.789 --> 00:48:34.710 like well they're here they want to fight and he 848 00:48:34.750 --> 00:48:37.409 was like what so he goes out there he goes 849 00:48:37.429 --> 00:48:39.760 you guys want to fight my my sons and my 850 00:48:39.780 --> 00:48:43.210 nephews he's like everybody come inside just come inside So 851 00:48:43.250 --> 00:48:45.690 he invited all these young kids inside and we all 852 00:48:45.750 --> 00:48:49.210 sat down and I was stewing. I remember looking across 853 00:48:49.230 --> 00:48:51.530 at this one Sater kid. I remember looking at him 854 00:48:51.550 --> 00:48:54.070 and being like, after this, I'm going to kill you. 855 00:48:54.530 --> 00:48:56.710 Just wait. But you were in my house now. And 856 00:48:56.750 --> 00:48:59.190 my dad is like, now my dad's involved. And so 857 00:48:59.210 --> 00:49:01.250 the point of that was he wanted to sit down 858 00:49:01.269 --> 00:49:03.389 and he wanted to hear what was going on. He 859 00:49:03.429 --> 00:49:05.699 wanted to hear why they were wanting to fight. He 860 00:49:05.719 --> 00:49:07.659 wanted to know why we didn't tell him. And by 861 00:49:07.699 --> 00:49:09.900 the end of it, it was squashed, right? It was 862 00:49:09.940 --> 00:49:12.190 never brought up again. It was teased about every once 863 00:49:12.230 --> 00:49:12.489 in a while. 864 00:49:12.530

--> 00:49:12.690 Yeah. 865 00:49:12.710 --> 00:49:15.030 If you go to Garcia's or your dad will invite 866 00:49:15.050 --> 00:49:18.230 you in for fucking ice cream. But that left an 867 00:49:18.269 --> 00:49:21.489 impression on me that you can have friends of different 868 00:49:22.050 --> 00:49:25.449 opinions and they can be strong opinions. And that opinion 869 00:49:25.489 --> 00:49:28.840 can come from the way they were raised. It could 870 00:49:28.880 --> 00:49:31.340 come from a personal belief. It could come from something 871 00:49:31.360 --> 00:49:34.340 they've experienced. But it doesn't mean that you can't not 872 00:49:34.400 --> 00:49:36.980 sit down and listen. And there are limits to that. Obviously, 873 00:49:37.000 --> 00:49:40.269 if I was a Black Panther extremist who hated white people. 874 00:49:40.590 --> 00:49:43.530 You know, I wouldn't expect you to sit down and 875 00:49:44.230 --> 00:49:47.840 want to hear why. And just on the other side, 876 00:49:48.320 --> 00:49:50.900 you know, if you were like a white supremacist, like 877 00:49:51.000 --> 00:49:54.219 proud boy, I would probably think twice before meeting privately 878 00:49:54.260 --> 00:49:57.239 and talking. But, you know, my point is like people 879 00:49:57.300 --> 00:49:59.239 are allowed to have their opinions. And now we're living 880 00:49:59.280 --> 00:50:02.579 in a world where you're either left or you're right 881 00:50:02.679 --> 00:50:05.559 or you're far left or you're far right. And where's 882 00:50:05.969 --> 00:50:08.210 the middle? Where's the room for the middle? And that's 883 00:50:08.230 --> 00:50:15.130 been my problem. That's been my question since 2016. Where's the... No, 884 00:50:15.230 --> 00:50:18.010 I'm not a Trump supporter. I didn't vote for Trump. 885 00:50:18.429 --> 00:50:23.179 I didn't vote for Biden in 2020. I was so sick. 886 00:50:24.059 --> 00:50:29.019 By the way, I think that's why we keep being friends. 887 00:50:29.639 --> 00:50:35.550 Yeah. Yeah, it's like I get why that would Upset you. I've, 888 00:50:35.769 --> 00:50:38.570 I've been around, I've been around my daughter and her 889 00:50:38.630 --> 00:50:42.150 friends and I didn't have the gravity of what was 890 00:50:42.190 --> 00:50:44.050 going on, you know, as a nation with our young 891 00:50:44.110 --> 00:50:47.969 people until I said, nah, that little girl is adorable. 892 00:50:48.250 --> 00:50:50.969 She's so beautiful. You know, like you guys are so, 893 00:50:51.170 --> 00:50:53.070 you look so beautiful together. You're going to a dance. 894 00:50:53.550 --> 00:50:56.119 And she's like, no, my, my friend's trans. That's a boy. 895 00:50:56.139 --> 00:51:00.000 I was like, oh, okay. Well, first of all, I 896 00:51:00.039 --> 00:51:03.960 felt like an idiot for assuming the gender, but also 897 00:51:03.980 --> 00:51:06.550 I It was a wake-up call to, like, this young 898 00:51:06.590 --> 00:51:10.150 person is identifying this way. I had my blinders on, 899 00:51:10.190 --> 00:51:13.150 didn't assume, didn't ask for pronouns, didn't do all that. 900 00:51:13.389 --> 00:51:15.150 And it was just, like, a wake-up call, like, man, 901 00:51:15.190 --> 00:51:17.650 the world has really changed, you know? And they talk 902 00:51:17.690 --> 00:51:20.949 freely with their friends about their dad being gay. But 903 00:51:20.969 --> 00:51:23.230 she's like, my friends are talking freely about being gay. 904 00:51:23.250 --> 00:51:26.219 And it's the whole world. It's just, like, everything has changed. 905 00:51:26.280 --> 00:51:30.090 Everything is, like, so much more out in the open. But... No. I. 906 00:51:31.860 --> 00:51:34.920 But I get what you're saying, like... I... Yeah, one 907 00:51:34.960 --> 00:51:37.500 thing doesn't... Someone being depressed. 908 00:51:38.420 --> 00:51:43.619 Are you wrong for being... Oops, I didn't realize. I 909 00:51:43.659 --> 00:51:46.440 don't think I'm wrong for it. I just think it 910 00:51:46.480 --> 00:51:49.260 was like... I go into things so blind sometimes just 911 00:51:49.510 --> 00:51:51.289 because of my upbringing. Sure. 912 00:51:51.949 --> 00:51:54.909 It's almost like if something doesn't... If something's not in 913 00:51:54.929 --> 00:51:56.829 front of your face and doesn't affect you in the moment, 914 00:51:56.969 --> 00:51:58.440 you're not going to be on the lookout for it. 915 00:51:58.789 --> 00:51:58.949 Well. 916 00:51:58.969 --> 00:52:00.070 Yeah. 917 00:52:01.230 --> 00:52:07.530 And is it... So... you're the same age as me 918 00:52:07.650 --> 00:52:16.019 so you'll either reflect negatively towards the idea or you 919 00:52:16.039 --> 00:52:21.340 know I've been a big proponent of we should be 920 00:52:21.400 --> 00:52:23.820 able to use the word retarded. 921 00:52:24.280 --> 00:52:28.039 Oh yeah I don't agree with that but I know 922 00:52:28.079 --> 00:52:31.360 that a lot of people feel that way. 923 00:52:31.849 --> 00:52:35.440 And the thing is it's like we used to be like, 924 00:52:35.880 --> 00:52:40.300 you're gay, you're retarded, you're gay, you're retarded. And I 925 00:52:40.340 --> 00:52:44.099 think you're the same age as me. And look, the 926 00:52:44.599 --> 00:52:45.079 other word. 927 00:52:45.449 --> 00:52:46.760 Oh yeah, I know what word you're thinking of. 928 00:52:47.750 --> 00:52:48.309 The F word. 929 00:52:48.929 --> 00:52:53.289 Yeah. That used to mean something. Louis C.K. had a 930 00:52:53.289 --> 00:52:56.030 whole bit on that. 931 00:52:56.329 --> 00:52:58.630 It was not a hate word. 932 00:52:59.349 --> 00:53:00.429 No. 933 00:53:01.030 --> 00:53:05.760 And look, I went to I've been to multiple gay 934 00:53:05.820 --> 00:53:10.079 bars where the most I've heard the word. 935 00:53:10.460 --> 00:53:12.099 Yeah, that word, yeah. 936 00:53:12.400 --> 00:53:15.539 Is at gay bars. And I'm like, can I say that? No, 937 00:53:15.920 --> 00:53:18.389 I'm not gay, so I guess I can't say it. 938

00:53:18.500 --> 00:53:24.030 I don't... I'm confused. Can I say that? I don't know. 939 00:53:25.449 --> 00:53:29.409 I've had discussions at gay bars about being like, is 940 00:53:29.449 --> 00:53:33.130 that a word I can use interchangeably if I'm not... 941 00:53:33.809 --> 00:53:36.630 I'm not being hateful because it's a fun word. 942 00:53:40.550 --> 00:53:41.190 I know what you mean. 943 00:53:41.769 --> 00:53:44.860 I don't mean it hatefully. I think you understand that 944 00:53:44.880 --> 00:53:47.980 I'm not a hateful person, but I'm like, but it 945 00:53:48.019 --> 00:53:51.860 can be funny if you use it in the right way. 946 00:53:52.860 --> 00:53:56.019 I remember I had a roommate that I worked with 947 00:53:56.360 --> 00:53:58.449 at Barnes & Noble, and we used to say that 948 00:53:58.929 --> 00:54:02.679 playfully all the time. And one time he walked over 949 00:54:02.719 --> 00:54:08.400 to my department, there was this kid, pretty liberal kid, 950 00:54:09.039 --> 00:54:13.739 just like not gay, not, you know, didn't identify as 951 00:54:13.840 --> 00:54:20.670 any LGBTQIA plus member, just like super liberal white knight savior. Like, 952 00:54:20.869 --> 00:54:23.010 you know, I'm going to save the world type kid, 953 00:54:23.190 --> 00:54:25.309 you know. And my friend walks up and I'm like, hey, 954 00:54:25.349 --> 00:54:27.630 you know, I said, hey, you know what? You know, hey, 955 00:54:27.750 --> 00:54:30.070 F word. So what are you doing here? He just... 956 00:54:30.420 --> 00:54:34.300 josh and right and that kid was so offended you 957 00:54:34.320 --> 00:54:36.489 know it became a thing like he was choose another 958 00:54:36.530 --> 00:54:39.789 word i'm like okay i'm sorry i mean my friend 959 00:54:40.210 --> 00:54:42.110 we just play and he oh that's how that's what 960 00:54:42.130 --> 00:54:43.469 you call your friends like what do you call your 961 00:54:43.510 --> 00:54:45.190 enemies and it was like one of those things and 962 00:54:45.250 --> 00:54:48.309 went to hr and hr you know wasn't there to 963 00:54:48.349 --> 00:54:50.150 witness it so they couldn't they were just like just 964 00:54:50.170 --> 00:54:52.710 don't say it just don't say it again i didn't 965 00:54:52.730 --> 00:54:56.170 mean to offend steve like god damn it steve i 966 00:54:56.190 --> 00:54:59.550 didn't know you were gay steve and they're like steve's 967 00:54:59.590 --> 00:55:04.210 not gay oh, Steve is just, you know, he's woke, 968 00:55:04.250 --> 00:55:07.889 he's liberal, you know, like he's wanting to. OK, I 969 00:55:07.929 --> 00:55:08.199 get it. 970 00:55:08.329 --> 00:55:10.750 But that bothers me so much more. 971 00:55:11.269 --> 00:55:14.329 Yeah, but I literally meant nothing by it. And that 972 00:55:14.349 --> 00:55:18.130 was another life lesson. Like things are changing. And I 973 00:55:18.170 --> 00:55:20.929 have a friend when I when I mentioned woke, I 974 00:55:20.969 --> 00:55:24.340 have a friend who I he'll he'll probably listen to this. Right. 975 00:55:24.619 --> 00:55:26.300 And I hope he knows that when I'm when I'm 976 00:55:26.340 --> 00:55:29.039 saying this. I love him probably more than I should 977 00:55:29.099 --> 00:55:33.940 with the shit he's put me through, especially recently. But 978 00:55:34.119 --> 00:55:36.460 this is a beautiful person that I met in Los Angeles. 979 00:55:37.360 --> 00:55:40.869 He comes from very famous people. He's very well to do. 980 00:55:41.130 --> 00:55:44.030 I made a movie with him. Just a down to 981 00:55:44.070 --> 00:55:51.010 earth person, despite all these like physical and financial advantages, 982 00:55:51.929 --> 00:55:55.159 is just a person like me and you and a sweetheart. 983 00:55:55.579 --> 00:55:59.420 So this is rough to talk about, but it's going 984 00:55:59.440 --> 00:56:02.719 to show and prove my point that there's something really wrong. 985 00:56:02.760 --> 00:56:05.400 The pendulum is wrong where people can't talk. And it's 986 00:56:05.539 --> 00:56:12.199 fucking messed up because this kid was brutalized, attacked, unfortunately, 987 00:56:12.239 --> 00:56:17.360 by a group of African-American men in Los Angeles. And 988 00:56:17.719 --> 00:56:19.519 I didn't know any of this. I didn't even know 989 00:56:19.579 --> 00:56:22.940 that he was ironically living in Spokane. I didn't know 990 00:56:23.000 --> 00:56:26.139 he was even from here. One day I was on Instagram. 991 00:56:26.619 --> 00:56:28.980 And he commented, where are you at now? I'm like, 992 00:56:29.039 --> 00:56:31.119 I'm in Spokane. He goes, Oh my God, I'm here too. 993 00:56:31.139 --> 00:56:33.440 And I was like, what? I thought you were living 994 00:56:33.480 --> 00:56:36.599 large in Paris. Cause you're always, you know, I'm talking 995 00:56:36.619 --> 00:56:40.019 Calvin Klein model, like way up there. Right. 996 00:56:40.659 --> 00:56:40.760 Oh. 997 00:56:41.079 --> 00:56:44.219 And we identify because we have the same kind of dog. Right. 998 00:56:44.840 --> 00:56:48.070 So long story short, he tells me this horrendous story 999 00:56:48.489 --> 00:56:50.690 and he's like, he said, I'm all messed up in 1000 00:56:50.710 --> 00:56:53.230 my head about it. I hate woke. I hate black 1001 00:56:53.250 --> 00:56:56.070 lives matter. And I'm like, Do you think that maybe 1002 00:56:56.469 --> 00:56:58.989 your correlation and hatred towards those things has to do 1003 00:56:59.010 --> 00:57:02.590 with unresolved anger and anxiety because of the attack? Have 1004 00:57:02.610 --> 00:57:04.840 you dealt with that part? Because when I hear you 1005 00:57:04.880 --> 00:57:08.559 generalize and say you hate woke, you hate Black Lives Matter, 1006 00:57:08.599 --> 00:57:13.480 everyone part of Black Lives Matter is a communist, I'm like, 1007 00:57:13.519 --> 00:57:17.570 that's an extreme. Whether you believe in that organization or not, 1008 00:57:17.750 --> 00:57:20.190 you just can't

generalize. Just like I wouldn't want to generalize. 1009 00:57:21.590 --> 00:57:23.690 They've had some bad financial moves. 1010 00:57:24.360 --> 00:57:27.940 Oh yeah of course I know I know all about 1011 00:57:27.960 --> 00:57:31.300 the houses and like I'm not a fervent supporter either 1012 00:57:31.389 --> 00:57:33.550 way like I don't support either. 1013 00:57:33.389 --> 00:57:38.289 Way the idea I am a fervent supporter. 1014 00:57:37.670 --> 00:57:41.210 Yeah but not the profiting off it. 1015 00:57:40.829 --> 00:57:43.650 Not the organization. 1016 00:57:43.230 --> 00:57:45.880 So he's been you know I wanted to see him 1017 00:57:45.900 --> 00:57:48.719 I know he's in town and then one day he 1018 00:57:49.559 --> 00:57:53.019 I slowly truly see his Instagram posts are getting more 1019 00:57:53.039 --> 00:57:56.980 heated and And obviously I can tell he's been drunk, drinking, 1020 00:57:57.760 --> 00:58:00.639 posting this stuff. But one day out of the blue, 1021 00:58:01.829 --> 00:58:05.550 he comes at me probably in a drunken rage on Instagram. 1022 00:58:06.809 --> 00:58:09.809 Why do you have pronouns on your Instagram? You look 1023 00:58:09.829 --> 00:58:13.789 like an idiot. Just because you like dick doesn't mean 1024 00:58:13.829 --> 00:58:17.849 you should be a communist. Woke is fucked. Okay, so 1025 00:58:17.869 --> 00:58:20.239 he's just laying into me. And I'm taking it as like, 1026 00:58:20.949 --> 00:58:23.320 you have trauma in the last year. You were beat. 1027 00:58:23.949 --> 00:58:27.110 probably to the, you know, you'll be pretty bad. I 1028 00:58:27.130 --> 00:58:29.750 get it. You haven't dealt with that trauma. You're angry. 1029 00:58:30.110 --> 00:58:31.719 He's like, leave me alone. I want to see you again. 1030 00:58:31.739 --> 00:58:34.409 And I'm like, okay, you're taking this out on me 1031 00:58:34.489 --> 00:58:37.360 for whatever reason. I've never done anything wrong. Very angry. 1032 00:58:37.719 --> 00:58:39.480 And so I blocked him on Instagram. I was like, 1033 00:58:39.519 --> 00:58:42.000 I don't need, I don't need this kind of negative. 1034 00:58:42.320 --> 00:58:44.420 But then I thought, man, this is like my friend. 1035 00:58:44.440 --> 00:58:46.840 This is someone I care about. And that's not, that's 1036 00:58:46.880 --> 00:58:50.219 not him. That person that was so angry is not him. 1037 00:58:50.539 --> 00:58:52.340 And I know where he lives in town and stuff. 1038 00:58:52.400 --> 00:58:57.380 And My other friend from LA, who's also pompous and rich, 1039 00:58:57.860 --> 00:59:00.139 he was like, yeah, I wouldn't go around him now. 1040 00:59:00.199 --> 00:59:02.280 He's like Superman of the world, and it's not going 1041 00:59:02.300 --> 00:59:03.889 to end well for you. I'm like, well, first of all, 1042 00:59:04.409 --> 00:59:07.070 I'm almost 300 pounds, right even if i've lost weight 1043 00:59:07.349 --> 00:59:11.550 this kid is 110 pounds soaking wet if you try 1044 00:59:11.610 --> 00:59:13.550 anything with me i will snap you like a twig 1045 00:59:13.739 --> 00:59:15.639 if you try violence with me it's not gonna end 1046 00:59:15.679 --> 00:59:19.719 well for you right but my point is like you 1047 00:59:19.840 --> 00:59:23.579 you can see someone you care about go through something 1048 00:59:24.340 --> 00:59:29.980 and fucking politicize it all and that's so dangerous Because 1049 00:59:30.599 --> 00:59:33.380 that's a friend, that's someone that has seen me through 1050 00:59:33.420 --> 00:59:36.219 thick and thin and who knows me inside and out. 1051 00:59:36.260 --> 00:59:39.050 And I know him inside and out. But his traumatic 1052 00:59:39.110 --> 00:59:42.349 mind has now gone to this thing we do in 1053 00:59:42.389 --> 00:59:43.789 America as we politicize. 1054 00:59:44.090 --> 00:59:46.769 Yeah, why do you want to politicize your life? 1055 00:59:47.710 --> 00:59:52.400 Right. It doesn't matter if you're African-American or it doesn't matter. 1056 00:59:52.420 --> 00:59:54.440 So you're telling me that if a bunch of white 1057 00:59:54.480 --> 00:59:57.739 dudes beat you up, would you hate white men now? Like, 1058 00:59:58.099 --> 01:00:00.019 I'm confused. Like, why are you taking it out on 1059 01:00:00.079 --> 01:00:03.000 a whole race? I get you have trauma and you're 1060 01:00:03.039 --> 01:00:04.980 even admitting that you're messed up in your head over it. 1061 01:00:05.239 --> 01:00:09.340 But instead of getting the help, you're drinking and to 1062 01:00:09.380 --> 01:00:11.219 the point where you're lashing out at people that love 1063 01:00:11.260 --> 01:00:15.940 you and then somehow inserting them, you know, into this. 1064 01:00:15.960 --> 01:00:17.320 You're inserting evil. 1065 01:00:18.219 --> 01:00:18.380 Yeah. 1066 01:00:18.860 --> 01:00:20.760 And it's all evil. Yeah. 1067 01:00:21.340 --> 01:00:23.820 It's just like, I haven't reached out back. I saw 1068 01:00:23.860 --> 01:00:28.719 him on Snapchat and I said, Jokingly. I shouldn't have 1069 01:00:29.340 --> 01:00:32.900 said that, but I was like, what did I say? 1070 01:00:32.920 --> 01:00:36.030 I said something smartass. I was like, hey, you still 1071 01:00:36.239 --> 01:00:36.730 mad at me? 1072 01:00:39.269 --> 01:00:46.170 Luis, I've got, before we end this show, I've got 1073 01:00:47.070 --> 01:00:52.380 a super controversial thing that I'll share with you. 1074 01:00:53.000 --> 01:00:53.320 Okay. 1075 01:00:54.039 --> 01:00:57.349 And, you know, Tell me to go fuck myself. 1076 01:00:59.869 --> 01:01:03.409 Are you trying to get canceled this weekend? No, I 1077 01:01:03.449 --> 01:01:04.369 can't get canceled. 1078 01:01:04.429 --> 01:01:05.690 I'm like Adam Carolla. 1079 01:01:06.250 --> 01:01:11.590 Exactly. He's uncancelled. He's uncancellable. 1080 01:01:11.610 --> 01:01:14.090 By the way, last time I was on your show, 1081 01:01:14.230 --> 01:01:15.690 Adam Carolla retweeted. 1082 01:01:16.409 -->

01:01:22.179 I know. I was floored by that. And that tweet 1083 01:01:22.239 --> 01:01:25.260 got me like 500. that tweet got me like 500 1084 01:01:25.260 --> 01:01:29.119 followers on Twitter alone. Like I was, I was in 1085 01:01:29.179 --> 01:01:31.429 shock and he was like, that's the best. He was 1086 01:01:31.489 --> 01:01:35.590 quoting you saying, that's the best thing I've heard all day. Your, 1087 01:01:35.630 --> 01:01:41.489 your sentiments. So he, he retweeted it. Right. He retweeted 1088 01:01:41.550 --> 01:01:43.530 it or something. You retweeted it. 1089 01:01:43.769 --> 01:01:44.989 Whatever the fuck I said. 1090 01:01:45.010 --> 01:01:47.880 I don't. Yeah. You, you went, you, what you said 1091 01:01:47.920 --> 01:01:51.059 was like his clear mind, his level headiness kept people 1092 01:01:51.099 --> 01:01:53.900 like me and you. sane during the pandemic because he 1093 01:01:53.920 --> 01:01:55.000 was the one questioning. That's right. 1094 01:01:55.219 --> 01:01:56.019 That's right. Yes. 1095 01:01:56.179 --> 01:01:59.070 And you were like me and Luis Garcia on his podcast, 1096 01:01:59.550 --> 01:02:02.590 just talking about that. And then Adam said, yes, yes, yes. 1097 01:02:03.409 --> 01:02:04.989 Like that's the best thing I've heard all day. And 1098 01:02:05.030 --> 01:02:09.610 then retweets it. I've been listening to the sky since 1099 01:02:09.650 --> 01:02:10.949 I was like 14 years old. 1100 01:02:10.969 --> 01:02:13.980 I know. And, and, and you're on the West coast. 1101 01:02:14.119 --> 01:02:16.500 I'm on the East coast. So I was like coked 1102 01:02:16.619 --> 01:02:20.880 up at two in the morning. And, and I, I, 1103 01:02:21.059 --> 01:02:24.250 I made that tweet. And then my phone starts blowing up. 1104 01:02:24.309 --> 01:02:26.599 I'm like, hey, I'm trying to go to bed. And 1105 01:02:27.079 --> 01:02:29.800 I'm like, oh, Adam Carolla, what? 1106 01:02:30.760 --> 01:02:35.079 That was a huge move. I've also noticed that since then, 1107 01:02:35.900 --> 01:02:38.260 and we can get to your, I just want to 1108 01:02:38.280 --> 01:02:43.429 show you how that helped because I have a friend named, 1109 01:02:44.269 --> 01:02:46.809 what the hell is he going by now? Anyway, he 1110 01:02:46.869 --> 01:02:50.690 has a show on Instagram and I've noticed that the Adam, 1111 01:02:51.150 --> 01:02:54.019 the Ace Network, is one of his followers, and they're 1112 01:02:54.099 --> 01:02:55.699 constantly liking his posts. 1113 01:02:56.340 --> 01:02:59.719 Nice. We're kingmakers. 1114 01:03:00.300 --> 01:03:04.289 Yeah, I think our time is due. Oh, and I 1115 01:03:04.329 --> 01:03:09.289 would like, once we get the budget for this divorce movie, 1116 01:03:09.570 --> 01:03:11.190 I would love for you to be one of the characters. 1117 01:03:11.469 --> 01:03:12.389 We'll talk about that later. 1118 01:03:13.050 --> 01:03:15.449 Oh, please. Yes, thank you. 1119 01:03:16.010 --> 01:03:18.389 Yes. I can't wait. 1120 01:03:18.659 --> 01:03:21.840 I can't wait until you can watch win one, everything 1121 01:03:21.880 --> 01:03:23.519 to see my acting prowess. 1122 01:03:24.079 --> 01:03:28.860 I saw the trailer. It looked funny. Like, it looked 1123 01:03:28.900 --> 01:03:30.480 like you guys had a lot of fun and a 1124 01:03:30.500 --> 01:03:34.460 lot of room to play. And that's important on set. 1125 01:03:34.559 --> 01:03:38.539 You know, I try to play best I can. 1126 01:03:38.719 --> 01:03:40.579 So what's your controversial statement? 1127 01:03:42.239 --> 01:03:43.280 I'm trying to remember. 1128 01:03:45.599 --> 01:03:46.360 A little bit. 1129 01:03:48.300 --> 01:03:52.949 Let me think here. Controversial thing. I'll think of something 1130 01:03:53.010 --> 01:03:54.150 controversial here. 1131 01:03:55.190 --> 01:03:57.670 All right. 1132 01:03:57.889 --> 01:04:01.710 I do think, I'm not sure if this is, it's 1133 01:04:01.769 --> 01:04:06.820 not going to be a very convicting statement, statement of 1134 01:04:06.940 --> 01:04:12.599 conviction here. Right. I do think there is, okay, yes, 1135 01:04:12.900 --> 01:04:16.590 I've thought of something controversial here. So, I'm going to 1136 01:04:16.650 --> 01:04:17.429 throw it at you. 1137 01:04:18.090 --> 01:04:18.369 All right. 1138 01:04:18.389 --> 01:04:20.789 Because, Luis, I love you, bro. 1139 01:04:21.670 --> 01:04:23.940 Same. I love you, too. 1140 01:04:24.539 --> 01:04:29.739 I think that homosexuality is a little convenient for kids 1141 01:04:29.760 --> 01:04:30.280 these days. 1142 01:04:31.260 --> 01:04:34.920 In the sense of them... In the sense. 1143 01:04:34.719 --> 01:04:41.849 Of the species would not exist if the percentage of 1144 01:04:42.030 --> 01:04:48.369 kids who thought, oh, I'm gay, you know what I'm 1145 01:04:48.409 --> 01:04:56.599 saying look you obviously reproduced I'm not saying that sounds 1146 01:04:56.699 --> 01:05:01.059 horrible but I think you know I'm not saying that 1147 01:05:01.119 --> 01:05:05.519 from a place of hatred I'm saying that the species 1148 01:05:05.659 --> 01:05:08.920 would not you know. 1149 01:05:10.360 --> 01:05:15.460 Are you saying that the homosexuality is like it's trendy 1150 01:05:15.840 --> 01:05:19.969 now It's trendy, yes. Yes. 1151 01:05:21.389 --> 01:05:24.809 Obviously, you and I are the same age. It was 1152 01:05:24.829 --> 01:05:25.889 not trendy for you. 1153 01:05:26.230 --> 01:05:27.659 Oh, no. 1154 01:05:27.909 --> 01:05:29.500 I know that. 1155 01:05:30.000 --> 01:05:32.179 I know that. 1156 01:05:32.559 --> 01:05:38.360 I'm not casting aspersions. I'm saying that kids nowadays are 1157 01:05:38.400 --> 01:05:43.590 being like, I'm just the wrong gender. I think that's 1158 01:05:43.650 --> 01:05:46.780 more of it than... gay to be honest. 1159 01:05:46.559 --> 01:05:49.400 I think I think yeah I I can see your 1160 01:05:49.440 --> 01:05:53.860 point because it's it's it's confusing even it's got to 1161

01:05:53.900 --> 01:05:56.739 be confusing for parents that are going through that right 1162 01:05:57.039 --> 01:06:01.199 because you you know especially of our of our generation 1163 01:06:01.219 --> 01:06:04.579 like the the millennial gen x you know 80s 90s 1164 01:06:04.619 --> 01:06:08.630 kids right like we I remember being in eighth grade 1165 01:06:09.150 --> 01:06:11.469 and the first time a dude made a move at 1166 01:06:11.489 --> 01:06:14.269 me and I liked it we would never think about 1167 01:06:14.309 --> 01:06:18.130 telling anybody I mean, that was like, nah, this is 1168 01:06:18.190 --> 01:06:19.789 super on the DL, right? 1169 01:06:19.809 --> 01:06:20.550 Sure. Yeah. 1170 01:06:21.190 --> 01:06:23.949 And then now I hear my daughter saying, well, so-and-so, 1171 01:06:24.010 --> 01:06:26.530 her best friend is gay. You know, they're going on 1172 01:06:26.570 --> 01:06:31.449 a date and it's like common knowledge. So progress, yes. 1173 01:06:32.030 --> 01:06:36.369 But I can see where you would be concerned about 1174 01:06:36.409 --> 01:06:38.670 it being a trend because, you know, I mean, I 1175 01:06:38.710 --> 01:06:43.630 knew at a young age what I liked. I waited 1176 01:06:43.670 --> 01:06:48.119 so long because of the religious thing, right? But when 1177 01:06:48.139 --> 01:06:51.440 you have a mind that's still being molded and you're 1178 01:06:51.480 --> 01:06:54.900 not quite an adult yet or not quite, when you're 1179 01:06:54.940 --> 01:07:00.690 malleable and sway, you can be swayed easily. And, you know, 1180 01:07:01.349 --> 01:07:06.150 is it social media? Is it society pressuring kids to 1181 01:07:06.170 --> 01:07:09.260 make a decision when they may maybe not be sure? 1182 01:07:09.320 --> 01:07:10.840 I don't know. I don't know if there's enough data 1183 01:07:10.860 --> 01:07:12.809 to back that up. I can see where that would 1184 01:07:12.829 --> 01:07:17.400 be a concern, right? Because not everyone is gay, right? 1185 01:07:17.440 --> 01:07:21.679 And not everyone is straight. And I think that it's 1186 01:07:21.719 --> 01:07:26.340 a very personal and special thing when you come to 1187 01:07:26.380 --> 01:07:28.489 terms with who you are. And it's hard to say 1188 01:07:28.530 --> 01:07:31.829 if that's the case for everybody that says that they 1189 01:07:31.909 --> 01:07:33.510 are at a young age. 1190 01:07:33.849 --> 01:07:39.369 Well, and not to, obviously I'm interrupting you, but not 1191 01:07:39.389 --> 01:07:48.050 to interrupt you. But I think, and look, my kids 1192 01:07:48.130 --> 01:07:53.210 are very general. So this is not like a personal 1193 01:07:53.269 --> 01:07:58.150 thing for me. My kids are very gendered. You know, 1194 01:07:58.409 --> 01:08:03.929 my son is very much likes big boobs. And my 1195 01:08:03.969 --> 01:08:09.940 daughter wants to do theater and She's like, some of 1196 01:08:09.980 --> 01:08:15.159 these girls say they're gay. I don't understand it. But

1197 01:08:15.420 --> 01:08:20.180 she's autistic. She doesn't. Anyways, doesn't matter. It's not a 1198 01:08:20.300 --> 01:08:22.979 personal thing with my kids where I'm like, I don't 1199 01:08:23.020 --> 01:08:26.319 want my kids to be gay. I don't give a shit. 1200 01:08:26.680 --> 01:08:28.420 But my kids aren't. 1201 01:08:29.039 --> 01:08:29.279 Yeah. 1202 01:08:29.979 --> 01:08:34.039 But again, it's not a point of pride or disappointment. 1203 01:08:34.180 --> 01:08:35.159 I don't give a shit. 1204 01:08:35.460 --> 01:08:37.470 Like, you know, you do you. 1205 01:08:38.789 --> 01:08:44.260 So i'm not saying i i'm i think that and 1206 01:08:44.340 --> 01:08:47.359 i think you might understand where i'm coming from with 1207 01:08:47.380 --> 01:08:52.260 this is that too much of mental health problems are 1208 01:08:52.699 --> 01:08:57.750 just switcher gender switcher this that the other and i'm 1209 01:08:57.770 --> 01:09:04.739 like that's not a fix. That's a band-aid. 1210 01:09:05.180 --> 01:09:08.359 Yeah, I'm the first to admit, when it comes to 1211 01:09:09.819 --> 01:09:15.659 the trans community, the trans experience, I've had employment resources 1212 01:09:15.699 --> 01:09:22.340 groups that are run by my trans colleagues. And I 1213 01:09:22.380 --> 01:09:25.399 admitted to my trans colleague, I don't know anything about 1214 01:09:25.739 --> 01:09:28.319 the culture. I know nothing about the history. I don't 1215 01:09:28.359 --> 01:09:33.260 have that experience. Mostly because of my religious upbringing, it 1216 01:09:33.300 --> 01:09:37.659 was a no-no. And then more than that being the 1217 01:09:37.699 --> 01:09:40.989 reason is I've never taken the time to understand. I've 1218 01:09:41.029 --> 01:09:45.909 relied on what the media has exposed me to, to 1219 01:09:45.949 --> 01:09:49.550 try to understand. So I can't speak to that experience specifically. 1220 01:09:50.529 --> 01:09:53.050 I do know the gender thing is a concern with 1221 01:09:53.090 --> 01:09:56.569 a lot of parents. There are some parents that speak 1222 01:09:56.630 --> 01:09:59.810 about it with trusted friends and try to talk about 1223 01:09:59.829 --> 01:10:02.989 it and try to understand it. There's parents that go 1224 01:10:03.029 --> 01:10:06.199 the other extreme, don't want it in the schools or 1225 01:10:06.880 --> 01:10:09.680 any kind of books, which I think that's going a 1226 01:10:09.680 --> 01:10:12.880 little too far. As far as the gay and homosexual side, 1227 01:10:13.479 --> 01:10:18.000 it's hard. It's hard because you want to support young people. Um, 1228 01:10:18.399 --> 01:10:20.720 but you also want to make sure that they're comfortable 1229 01:10:20.739 --> 01:10:22.939 in their own skin too. And, and, you know, yeah, 1230 01:10:23.600 --> 01:10:28.930 not pressured either way, either spectrum, gay or straight by 1231 01:10:29.010 --> 01:10:34.130 society on what they identify as in our world. Like the, 1232 01:10:34.510 --> 01:10:37.470 getting back to this whole pendulum, you know, the pendulum 1233 01:10:37.489 --> 01:10:41.180 has swung so far in each direction, but there's no 1234 01:10:41.300 --> 01:10:44.039 middle point. There's no like, okay, we can, we can 1235 01:10:44.079 --> 01:10:47.409 start from the middle for me. The middle is just 1236 01:10:47.449 --> 01:10:52.090 being a good person. That's the basics, right? That's the 1237 01:10:52.130 --> 01:10:54.550 basics of where you can start. And you can have 1238 01:10:54.569 --> 01:10:59.649 a conversation. You can disagree, even angrily disagree with your 1239 01:10:59.689 --> 01:11:03.130 friends at times on subjects. But as long as you 1240 01:11:03.149 --> 01:11:05.029 have that foundation of being in the middle and being 1241 01:11:05.050 --> 01:11:07.630 a good person, you can always come back to that. 1242 01:11:07.649 --> 01:11:09.470 And you don't always have to agree. And sometimes you're 1243 01:11:09.510 --> 01:11:13.189 not going to agree with people's ideologies and people's viewpoints. 1244 01:11:13.720 --> 01:11:15.619 No, you don't have to. 1245 01:11:16.350 --> 01:11:19.989 On where they stand. Isn't that what a democracy should be? 1246 01:11:20.850 --> 01:11:26.550 You get to be who you are politically and believe 1247 01:11:26.569 --> 01:11:28.970 what you can believe, but we can still come together 1248 01:11:28.989 --> 01:11:35.100 in a place of respect. There's a lot of influence. 1249 01:11:35.460 --> 01:11:38.739 There's a ton of influence out there. Some things should 1250 01:11:38.779 --> 01:11:41.960 be left unsaid, I think. Not from kids, but from 1251 01:11:42.699 --> 01:11:46.359 not everything has to be tweeted about or talked about. 1252 01:11:46.380 --> 01:11:50.039 I think some things should be left up to parents 1253 01:11:50.060 --> 01:11:51.500 and kids to discuss. 1254 01:11:52.159 --> 01:11:55.189 Right. And, and a lot of things should be adults 1255 01:11:55.250 --> 01:11:58.609 aren't talking about this to kids and influence. 1256 01:11:58.630 --> 01:11:59.149 Yeah. 1257 01:12:00.109 --> 01:12:00.250 Yeah. 1258 01:12:00.289 --> 01:12:05.090 There's, there's a, there's a YouTuber right now. Colleen Langer, 1259 01:12:05.130 --> 01:12:08.689 I think that's her name. Colleen Langer or whatever, who 1260 01:12:08.770 --> 01:12:11.710 had a show on Netflix and had a, was on 1261 01:12:11.750 --> 01:12:16.010 Broadway and waitress and 20, you know, Millions of fans. 1262 01:12:17.010 --> 01:12:19.609 And it just came out that she was sending underwear 1263 01:12:20.069 --> 01:12:23.989 and nude pics of her 14-year-old boy fans when she was, like, 1264 01:12:24.489 --> 01:12:27.949 almost 30. You know? It's like, well, that's inappropriate. Like, 1265 01:12:27.989 --> 01:12:30.829 what are you doing? What the hell are you doing? 1266 01:12:30.909 --> 01:12:38.270 James Charles, another one. Like, dick pics to 16-year-old boys. Like... Yeah. 1267

01:12:38.590 --> 01:12:42.090 There should be hard and fast general principles. Obviously, that's 1268 01:12:42.130 --> 01:12:45.220 not a general principle. That should never happen. But some 1269 01:12:45.229 --> 01:12:47.899 things should just be left to the family. If the 1270 01:12:47.939 --> 01:12:54.619 family is respectful of their children's wishes and, I don't know, 1271 01:12:54.640 --> 01:12:56.270 the media portrays.... 1272 01:12:57.460 --> 01:12:59.880 And kids don't need to be sexualized. 1273 01:13:00.579 --> 01:13:02.079 No, never. 1274 01:13:03.359 --> 01:13:08.649 That's a thing that drove me insane with Frozen back 1275 01:13:08.689 --> 01:13:10.710 in the day. It's like, oh, we need to make 1276 01:13:11.029 --> 01:13:16.689 this chick a lesbian because I'm like okay that's fine 1277 01:13:16.770 --> 01:13:19.250 but she can be a lesbian but why are you 1278 01:13:19.369 --> 01:13:23.050 trying to tell my seven year old daughter that this 1279 01:13:23.449 --> 01:13:26.369 chick has to be sexualized. 1280 01:13:26.390 --> 01:13:33.380 Yeah I thought it was what it's overreach it's like 1281 01:13:34.439 --> 01:13:38.060 it doesn't need to kids don't need to be sexualized 1282 01:13:38.319 --> 01:13:44.239 kids should be kids Now, look, I was a 10-year-old, 1283 01:13:44.260 --> 01:13:49.420 11-year-old kid who was on AOL and being like, I 1284 01:13:49.439 --> 01:13:51.520 want Jennifer Love Hewitt's boobs. 1285 01:13:52.659 --> 01:13:55.010 Yeah, yeah. That's normal. 1286 01:13:55.239 --> 01:14:01.170 Jennifer Love Hewitt's boobs. Yeah. Jennifer Love Hewitt. I'm like, oh, 1287 01:14:01.350 --> 01:14:04.729 fake pictures of her boobs. I didn't know they were fake, but, 1288 01:14:05.109 --> 01:14:09.470 you know. My parents caught me with that. Yeah, and look. 1289 01:14:10.100 --> 01:14:15.770 I will say this. I was an overtly heterosexual young boy. 1290 01:14:16.489 --> 01:14:20.630 I don't think everyone is that way. By the way, 1291 01:14:21.289 --> 01:14:22.300 I'm like, right. 1292 01:14:22.529 --> 01:14:22.720 Yeah. 1293 01:14:22.949 --> 01:14:27.140 I was very clearly from a young age. 1294 01:14:27.939 --> 01:14:31.920 Yeah. I have a, my godson, one of my godsons 1295 01:14:31.979 --> 01:14:34.819 is very, he's accepting of all, but, you know, he 1296 01:14:34.859 --> 01:14:38.000 says that he's straighter than a ruler and just loves me. 1297 01:14:38.390 --> 01:14:40.909 girls and i can't see him not liking girls and 1298 01:14:40.970 --> 01:14:43.970 that's fine and i think that kids kids discovering who 1299 01:14:44.010 --> 01:14:47.590 they are on their own with the guidance with the 1300 01:14:47.630 --> 01:14:53.350 mature and quote-unquote appropriate guidance from their parents is totally 1301 01:14:53.390 --> 01:14:56.779 fine like you hunting and pecking looking for jennifer loves 1302 01:14:56.880 --> 01:15:04.949 hewitt's tits and you know a gay kid yeah A 1303 01:15:04.989 --> 01:15:10.699 gay kid typing in Leonardo DiCaprio's ass, who's gay, that 1304 01:15:10.760 --> 01:15:11.340 kind of stuff. 1305 01:15:11.500 --> 01:15:11.760 Fair. 1306 01:15:11.880 --> 01:15:16.020 That kind of stuff is normal. And that should be private, normal. 1307 01:15:16.260 --> 01:15:20.039 And there's a certain kind of privacy and innocence about that, right? 1308 01:15:20.460 --> 01:15:24.890 But when you throw it down anyone's face or... Right. 1309 01:15:26.250 --> 01:15:32.760 And there's a huge, huge pedophilic problem within... mainstream hollywood 1310 01:15:32.800 --> 01:15:35.819 too that's never addressed and needs to be addressed and 1311 01:15:36.750 --> 01:15:39.430 and gotta watch out for that kind of stuff because 1312 01:15:39.449 --> 01:15:41.869 they sneak it in you know. 1313 01:15:42.970 --> 01:15:46.229 I'll say this too i'm i'm saying this i don't 1314 01:15:46.270 --> 01:15:48.659 know why i'm saying this to you like you have 1315 01:15:48.699 --> 01:15:51.340 to defend it because obviously you don't this is a 1316 01:15:51.399 --> 01:15:55.640 stupid this is this is kind of uh inappropriate for 1317 01:15:55.659 --> 01:16:00.149 me to even say uh but the some of the 1318 01:16:01.090 --> 01:16:05.149 I'm not saying drag queen story hour. I'm saying some 1319 01:16:05.229 --> 01:16:10.520 of the gay festivities that are like, oh, bring your 1320 01:16:10.600 --> 01:16:13.680 kid to this, and you're looking at a dude in 1321 01:16:13.760 --> 01:16:19.699 a thong being spanked by someone else in front of children. 1322 01:16:19.939 --> 01:16:23.560 And it's like, well, no, hold on a second. Because 1323 01:16:24.699 --> 01:16:31.989 as a staunch heterosexual, and I'm not anti-homosexual, obviously... Yeah. Well, 1324 01:16:33.029 --> 01:16:37.930 I hope it's obvious. But as a staunch heterosexual, I 1325 01:16:37.970 --> 01:16:40.810 would not be slapping a woman's ass in a thong 1326 01:16:40.869 --> 01:16:46.029 in front of children and think it's okay. Why exactly 1327 01:16:46.670 --> 01:16:50.850 is it okay if it's a man? I'm like, no, 1328 01:16:51.189 --> 01:16:52.439 it's all inappropriate. 1329 01:16:52.920 --> 01:16:53.119 Yeah. 1330 01:16:53.479 --> 01:16:57.560 Why are we sexualizing children? And I think you've already addressed... 1331 01:16:58.220 --> 01:17:01.020 You have already addressed it, so I'm not... calling you 1332 01:17:01.039 --> 01:17:07.460 to the carpet but it's like don't call us homophobic 1333 01:17:07.880 --> 01:17:13.859 for being like no that's not that can't that doesn't fly. 1334 01:17:13.939 --> 01:17:16.810 It's kind of like when you see you know the 1335 01:17:16.810 --> 01:17:19.430 12 year old getting hugged on at Hooters for his 1336 01:17:19.449 --> 01:17:24.649 birthday it's like okay I mean it's I wouldn't take 1337 01:17:24.689 --> 01:17:27.770 my son who's 12 to Hooters I just won't and 1338 01:17:28.310 --> 01:17:30.449 I wouldn't take them to a drag brunch either If 1339 01:17:30.569 -->

01:17:31.909 I knew it was going to be provocative. 1340 01:17:32.710 --> 01:17:32.970 Right. 1341 01:17:33.810 --> 01:17:37.390 We've talked about it. I've seen, I've, I've gone to 1342 01:17:37.449 --> 01:17:40.909 plenty of drag brunches where it's been fine. And then 1343 01:17:41.560 --> 01:17:44.119 where it's not been fine, where it was like overly sexual, 1344 01:17:44.220 --> 01:17:49.000 but that's the case for trip clubs. I've been to. Right. 1345 01:17:49.039 --> 01:17:53.399 Like inappropriate stuff happens everywhere. And I think as adults, 1346 01:17:53.479 --> 01:17:56.680 it's our job to figure it out. Call things out 1347 01:17:56.800 --> 01:18:00.380 as we see them, not generalize. Like if we were 1348 01:18:00.439 --> 01:18:03.659 stuck in, you know, I know Clearwater as the first Hooters, 1349 01:18:04.140 --> 01:18:06.220 I remember going there as a young man and a 1350 01:18:06.260 --> 01:18:12.569 lot of young men. Yeah. But like, I get it. I, I, 1351 01:18:12.789 --> 01:18:16.770 I can get those concerns. Um, but it's like, there, 1352 01:18:16.829 --> 01:18:19.029 there has to be the middle point. It's not, it 1353 01:18:19.069 --> 01:18:22.779 can't be all or nothing. Right. It's gotta be like 1354 01:18:22.979 --> 01:18:25.739 the middle point. There should be some, some kind of 1355 01:18:25.779 --> 01:18:29.369 like check and balance accountability, And I think that that 1356 01:18:29.649 --> 01:18:35.340 should start at home. And the parents that want to regulate, 1357 01:18:35.359 --> 01:18:38.800 not regulate what their kids do and watch, should make 1358 01:18:38.819 --> 01:18:42.479 that decision for their families and protect your kid at 1359 01:18:42.500 --> 01:18:44.229 the end of the day. And that's going to look 1360 01:18:44.250 --> 01:18:47.470 different for everyone else, right? I would go to my 1361 01:18:47.529 --> 01:18:52.020 friend's house when I was 15, 16. because I knew that 1362 01:18:52.060 --> 01:18:54.779 his parents and he knew that his parents had showtime. 1363 01:18:54.979 --> 01:18:57.819 So that meant that when the lights were off, what 1364 01:18:57.840 --> 01:18:59.399 do you think me and him were doing? We were 1365 01:18:59.420 --> 01:19:04.520 watching softball. We see some boobies. Why wouldn't two teenage 1366 01:19:04.560 --> 01:19:07.350 boys want to see that? That's what normal... That part 1367 01:19:07.409 --> 01:19:10.149 is normal. That's innocent. That's the kind of like coming 1368 01:19:10.189 --> 01:19:13.069 to your own. No one was forcing it. We didn't 1369 01:19:13.109 --> 01:19:16.760 have to be forced. I went with him to buy condoms, 1370 01:19:17.079 --> 01:19:19.100 you know, at 15. We went and bought condoms. We 1371 01:19:19.140 --> 01:19:22.500 didn't have sex or weren't having sex with girls or boys, 1372 01:19:22.539 --> 01:19:24.199 but we wanted to know what it felt like to 1373 01:19:24.239 --> 01:19:26.600 put on a condom. So I remember getting up the 1374 01:19:26.640 --> 01:19:29.300 nerve to go buy condoms and talking about the experience 1375 01:19:29.340 --> 01:19:30.850 of putting it on. Like that kind of stuff is 1376 01:19:30.890 --> 01:19:35.510 like normal self-exploration, self-discovery. 1377 01:19:37.260 --> 01:19:42.119 I'm going to ask you this. This is probably the 1378 01:19:42.159 --> 01:19:45.279 most controversial thing that's going to happen to this podcast. 1379 01:19:46.819 --> 01:19:50.029 And I, I don't, I don't know anything about it. 1380 01:19:50.569 --> 01:19:52.569 I'm just going to, I'm just going to utter the 1381 01:19:52.630 --> 01:19:55.430 phrase drag queen story hour. 1382 01:19:55.890 --> 01:19:59.289 Yeah. I want to hear the most funny part about 1383 01:19:59.329 --> 01:20:02.229 that for me. I never even knew it existed until 1384 01:20:02.270 --> 01:20:02.770 this conversation. 1385 01:20:03.069 --> 01:20:07.979 Where she started no i i i didn't either but 1386 01:20:08.399 --> 01:20:12.500 but again i i've seen some videos that i don't 1387 01:20:12.699 --> 01:20:15.539 even know are legitimate right of. 1388 01:20:15.579 --> 01:20:21.020 Men wearing thongs dancing around in front of kindergartners and 1389 01:20:21.140 --> 01:20:24.539 i think that's i i don't give a shit. 1390 01:20:24.800 --> 01:20:29.260 That's probably like yeah i'm laughing because um the thought 1391 01:20:29.279 --> 01:20:30.500 of that is horrifying. 1392 01:20:31.020 --> 01:20:33.939 Uh i don't even remember what we were talking about. 1393 01:20:34.199 --> 01:20:38.789 We were talking about drag story times oh god yeah 1394 01:20:39.189 --> 01:20:42.250 and some videos you've seen where there were people in 1395 01:20:42.289 --> 01:20:44.949 thongs dancing from the kids and how we collectively felt 1396 01:20:44.989 --> 01:20:48.560 that wasn't cool um just like i don't i wouldn't 1397 01:20:48.569 --> 01:20:50.979 take my 12 year old son to hooters for his 1398 01:20:51.020 --> 01:20:54.500 birthday you know there's boundaries there's some boundaries out there 1399 01:20:54.520 --> 01:20:57.739 that we should all Well, yeah, I mean. 1400 01:20:59.079 --> 01:21:03.319 I'll say Hooters really, really dulled down the sex appeal. 1401 01:21:03.699 --> 01:21:07.420 Yeah, I heard they dulled down the flavor, too. And 1402 01:21:07.460 --> 01:21:08.000 the prices. 1403 01:21:09.720 --> 01:21:12.810 Well, yeah, the flavor's been terrible. 1404 01:21:15.369 --> 01:21:17.229 That was the only place that I went to where 1405 01:21:17.250 --> 01:21:23.109 they put a plastic bag of ice in the pitcher. Oh, yeah, yeah. 1406 01:21:23.270 --> 01:21:24.729 I was like, this is weird. 1407 01:21:24.890 --> 01:21:29.029 That's weird. fairy ghetto but okay yeah it's. 1408 01:21:28.909 --> 01:21:31.310 Not great it's not great keeps it cool. 1409 01:21:31.069 --> 01:21:33.220 It doesn't water it down which is great so. 1410 01:21:33.739 --> 01:21:37.779 I i mean technically it doesn't water it

down but 1411 01:21:38.119 --> 01:21:47.439 sexually it waters you down yeah. 1412 01:21:44.710 --> 01:21:46.310 Um what do you got what do you got going 1413 01:21:46.449 --> 01:21:50.810 on for comedy now are you doing stand-up still like 1414 01:21:50.850 --> 01:21:52.609 what's your other show your dads and drinks is that 1415 01:21:52.670 --> 01:21:53.750 a podcast. 1416 01:21:55.050 --> 01:22:02.289 Well, it's a television show that, according to IMDb, that 1417 01:22:03.609 --> 01:22:10.399 airs on YouTube. You know, it's a fun, you know, 1418 01:22:11.819 --> 01:22:18.029 it's a fun dynamic for dads who, so part of 1419 01:22:18.130 --> 01:22:22.439 it is we watch this old Canadian show. That is 1420 01:22:22.779 --> 01:22:28.260 completely inappropriate. Called Keys to the VIP. Which is basically 1421 01:22:28.600 --> 01:22:30.659 a dude's pickup chick show. 1422 01:22:31.159 --> 01:22:31.640 Oh, okay. 1423 01:22:32.050 --> 01:22:34.609 Cool. And it doesn't age well. 1424 01:22:35.930 --> 01:22:38.789 Sure, that doesn't... The premise doesn't sound great. 1425 01:22:39.090 --> 01:22:47.199 No, not great. But we... So, from my perspective, is... 1426 01:22:47.760 --> 01:22:52.020 Jeff McAleenan podcast has kind of grown to an expansive 1427 01:22:52.779 --> 01:22:56.729 thing with guests where I, I, I'm not saying I 1428 01:22:56.789 --> 01:23:01.229 try to keep it PC, but yeah. So, so the 1429 01:23:01.270 --> 01:23:04.850 dads and drink show is, is kind of a venting 1430 01:23:04.949 --> 01:23:09.479 where I can be an asshole. And I was, I, 1431 01:23:09.659 --> 01:23:13.180 I literally, before, before we came on, I was recording 1432 01:23:13.199 --> 01:23:15.899 an episode of the dads and drink show. And I 1433 01:23:15.909 --> 01:23:19.060 was talking to Jeremiah, the co-host of the show, and 1434 01:23:19.100 --> 01:23:25.199 I'm like, hey, I'm going to air this behind-the-scenes footage. 1435 01:23:25.840 --> 01:23:30.079 And it's literally me being like, yeah, I'm chewing it up. 1436 01:23:30.279 --> 01:23:32.439 And he's like, I don't think what I said was 1437 01:23:32.479 --> 01:23:36.579 that ridiculous. And literally, I said to him, I'm like, 1438 01:23:36.819 --> 01:23:39.960 that was the most retarded argument I've ever had with 1439 01:23:40.039 --> 01:23:41.020 a human adult. 1440 01:23:42.399 --> 01:23:43.050 I like it. 1441 01:23:44.659 --> 01:23:49.399 So I say that, and I'm like, so I cue 1442 01:23:49.460 --> 01:23:51.789 this up, and I'm like, wait a second. This is 1443 01:23:51.850 --> 01:23:56.050 a friend of mine, and literally, the behind-the-scenes footage is 1444 01:23:56.409 --> 01:24:00.840 me being the biggest asshole of all time. And I'm like, 1445 01:24:01.760 --> 01:24:03.319 I might have some problems. 1446 01:24:04.000 --> 01:24:04.460 Later on. 1447 01:24:07.090 --> 01:24:11.329 In general I'm like the Dads and Drinks show is 1448 01:24:11.649 --> 01:24:15.840 what I wanted as far as and frankly this

episode 1449 01:24:16.060 --> 01:24:18.840 is a great example of it where it's like I'm 1450 01:24:18.899 --> 01:24:24.020 not trying to be charting you know I'm trying to 1451 01:24:24.060 --> 01:24:28.060 have a genuine conversation with people the Dads and Drinks 1452 01:24:28.100 --> 01:24:30.520 show gets extreme sometimes with. 1453 01:24:30.899 --> 01:24:36.489 It's like your version of the man show right Uh, yes. Remember, 1454 01:24:36.550 --> 01:24:38.310 that would not air nowadays, by the way. 1455 01:24:39.829 --> 01:24:43.550 No, and I always sit here and think it should 1456 01:24:43.609 --> 01:24:46.850 be able to air. Yeah. You and I should be 1457 01:24:46.949 --> 01:24:48.590 able to do a man show. 1458 01:24:48.630 --> 01:24:51.149 Yeah, we'll be the new Adam and Jimmy. Why not? 1459 01:24:51.170 --> 01:24:51.810 Hell yeah. 1460 01:24:52.350 --> 01:24:56.250 Right, right, right. I'll be Adam and you'll be gay Jimmy. 1461 01:24:59.609 --> 01:25:02.029 I like it. Yeah, and instead of juggies, we could 1462 01:25:02.060 --> 01:25:05.899 have guys with, like, We could have the juggies and 1463 01:25:05.939 --> 01:25:09.380 guys with loose shorts jumping up and down on a trampoline. 1464 01:25:09.479 --> 01:25:10.439 Why not? 1465 01:25:11.159 --> 01:25:13.500 You're balls and boobies. 1466 01:25:14.619 --> 01:25:18.819 Balls and boobies. I'm telling you, that's a great business 1467 01:25:18.859 --> 01:25:22.640 plan for a strip club. Having both. They do that 1468 01:25:22.680 --> 01:25:25.479 in California and it works. It's two different sides of 1469 01:25:25.520 --> 01:25:25.899 the building. 1470 01:25:25.920 --> 01:25:28.539 Does it work? I don't know. 1471 01:25:29.239 --> 01:25:34.109 It does. It's called the Abbey and it's like It's 1472 01:25:34.130 --> 01:25:37.680 a landmark, right? So they have that going for it. 1473 01:25:37.729 --> 01:25:40.270 But both, there's one side that's women, there's one side 1474 01:25:40.310 --> 01:25:44.720 that's dudes. And you can stumble through the whole thing 1475 01:25:44.760 --> 01:25:47.279 like a labyrinth of sexuality. 1476 01:25:48.600 --> 01:25:52.800 I remember one of my, actually my favorite moment at 1477 01:25:52.840 --> 01:25:55.359 a strip club was with a gay friend of mine. 1478 01:25:56.220 --> 01:26:00.039 And we were coming back, Florida, big long state. 1479 01:26:00.220 --> 01:26:02.920 You know. Oh yeah. I've been there. I lived there once. 1480 01:26:03.500 --> 01:26:07.159 We were coming back from a college football game where our, 1481 01:26:07.439 --> 01:26:12.310 our school just USF beat FSU in football. And we 1482 01:26:12.329 --> 01:26:17.989 were coming back down, but we stopped at a Florida famous, 1483 01:26:18.449 --> 01:26:24.310 maybe world famous strip club. And we're sitting at the 1484 01:26:24.390 --> 01:26:27.020 table and, And I'm the only one who's like, I'll 1485 01:26:27.060 --> 01:26:30.880 take a bacon cheeseburger. And everyone else is

like, why 1486 01:26:30.920 --> 01:26:34.739 would you get food here? I'm like, oh, fuck you guys. 1487 01:26:35.300 --> 01:26:40.210 I'm not afraid of naked people. And my gay friend 1488 01:26:40.289 --> 01:26:43.850 is sitting right here and he's like, I'm like, what? 1489 01:26:44.130 --> 01:26:47.609 He's like, her vagina lips are swinging. 1490 01:26:47.630 --> 01:26:55.840 Oh, yeah. And I'm like, Oh, you're right. Oh, my God. 1491 01:26:55.859 --> 01:26:59.859 There's a place in Portland. Adam, what's the name of 1492 01:26:59.880 --> 01:27:05.979 that famous strip club that you get steak at in Portland? Acropolis. Acropolis. Yeah, 1493 01:27:06.159 --> 01:27:09.239 and it's known for their, like, I think $ 5, $ 10 1494 01:27:09.050 --> 01:27:12.890 steak and amazing potatoes. 1495 01:27:12.909 --> 01:27:14.649 It's not a Greek place, though. 1496 01:27:15.270 --> 01:27:17.010 It's not a Greek place. It's a strip club. 1497 01:27:17.090 --> 01:27:21.140 Oh, because we've got an Acropolis here. Which is like 1498 01:27:21.399 --> 01:27:26.439 the vendetta of my life. That's amazing. Oh, my God. 1499 01:27:26.779 --> 01:27:27.520 You like Greek food? 1500 01:27:28.380 --> 01:27:33.859 I actually love Greek food. But this place is the 1501 01:27:34.119 --> 01:27:35.560 bane of my existence. 1502 01:27:36.119 --> 01:27:38.399 How long after the birthday party did you get divorced? 1503 01:27:40.800 --> 01:27:43.760 Three years, probably. What year? 1504 01:27:44.479 --> 01:27:45.819 Twenty-eighteen? 1505 01:27:48.439 --> 01:27:50.840 Uh, no. 2014. 1506 01:27:50.840 --> 01:27:53.500 Oh, that was the same year. I got divorced. We're 1507 01:27:53.539 --> 01:27:54.260 divorced bros. 1508 01:27:54.579 --> 01:27:55.539 We're divorced bros. 1509 01:27:56.000 --> 01:27:59.300 I said that at my first job. I put that 1510 01:27:59.340 --> 01:28:03.319 on the script, remember? Yeah, I. 1511 01:28:03.340 --> 01:28:10.270 We're divorced bros, but I like pussy, so.... 1512 01:28:08.739 --> 01:28:12.439 Well, we're covering bases on both. Everyone's represented, right? I 1513 01:28:12.479 --> 01:28:15.460 like it. Everyone eats. That's what they say. 1514 01:28:16.199 --> 01:28:16.300 Um. 1515 01:28:17.729 --> 01:28:21.829 I met some divorced guy at my new job and 1516 01:28:21.909 --> 01:28:23.710 we were going around saying, and he was like, and 1517 01:28:23.750 --> 01:28:25.880 I'm divorced. And I was like, so excited, you know, 1518 01:28:26.359 --> 01:28:28.220 more than I should have been about meeting someone else 1519 01:28:28.520 --> 01:28:32.399 who's divorced. And I was like, yeah, divorced. And like, 1520 01:28:32.420 --> 01:28:35.130 try to give him like a bump or something. And 1521 01:28:35.170 --> 01:28:38.680 he was just like, uh whoa nothing i'm proud of 1522 01:28:38.720 --> 01:28:40.720 bro like i'm not proud of it either. 1523 01:28:40.880 --> 01:28:43.680 But no shit happens man. 1524 01:28:43.859 --> 01:28:47.500 Yeah it's 60 percent

now like the other 40 percent 1525 01:28:48.470 --> 01:28:51.090 that are together raging alcoholic so i mean. 1526 01:28:51.010 --> 01:28:54.930 We're well i mean i'm a raging alcohol you're not 1527 01:28:54.970 --> 01:28:57.270 a raging you're not a raging one just a regular 1528 01:28:57.729 --> 01:29:02.079 i'm a regular alcoholic thank you Thank you. Uh, we, 1529 01:29:02.239 --> 01:29:04.159 we heard it here. Luis. 1530 01:29:04.979 --> 01:29:07.899 Yeah. Heard it first. So I would like to be 1531 01:29:07.979 --> 01:29:11.560 on this dad's show. One of these nights. Is that, 1532 01:29:11.899 --> 01:29:13.600 is that in person though? Are you in person or 1533 01:29:13.619 --> 01:29:14.380 you do it through zoom? 1534 01:29:15.520 --> 01:29:17.340 Uh, we do through zoom. 1535 01:29:17.819 --> 01:29:19.840 Oh, well, there you go. I like to invite myself 1536 01:29:19.880 --> 01:29:21.619 to things. So there you have it. 1537 01:29:22.359 --> 01:29:22.920 Yeah, brother. 1538 01:29:23.479 --> 01:29:23.880 You're there. 1539 01:29:23.899 --> 01:29:24.119 Awesome. 1540 01:29:24.619 --> 01:29:27.880 Awesome. Um, I will keep you posted on that script. 1541 01:29:28.220 --> 01:29:30.909 I'll let you read it actually. Uh, Let me know 1542 01:29:30.949 --> 01:29:34.829 what you think. You've read scripts before, obviously, because you're 1543 01:29:34.850 --> 01:29:37.409 an actor now. I'm an actor. 1544 01:29:41.310 --> 01:29:43.130 I'm on a movie poster. 1545 01:29:43.909 --> 01:29:47.460 I know. I can't wait to listen back to this 1546 01:29:47.500 --> 01:29:50.380 episode covered. When you're editing it, I can't wait to 1547 01:29:50.420 --> 01:29:52.319 see how you're going to describe it, because we went 1548 01:29:52.359 --> 01:29:58.260 through the gamut. I mean, we talked about everything. Politics, strikes, divorce, 1549 01:29:58.659 --> 01:29:59.090 you name it. 1550 01:29:59.359 --> 01:30:03.710 I'm highly drunk, so it'll probably all just stay the 1551 01:30:03.729 --> 01:30:04.189 way it is. 1552 01:30:04.810 --> 01:30:07.890 I like it. I like it. Well, let me know 1553 01:30:07.930 --> 01:30:12.729 when it airs. Speaking of podcasts, we're recording one tonight 1554 01:30:13.010 --> 01:30:14.149 on the TV time machine. 1555 01:30:15.800 --> 01:30:18.880 Yes. Yeah. So, Luis. 1556 01:30:19.380 --> 01:30:20.920 Yeah. 1557 01:30:21.199 --> 01:30:23.100 Tell my audience where they can find you. 1558 01:30:23.649 --> 01:30:26.310 Yeah. So you can find me on, it's not Twitter 1559 01:30:26.350 --> 01:30:30.380 anymore for some fucking reason. It's X now. What the 1560 01:30:30.420 --> 01:30:37.020 hell is that? Uh, it sounds pornographic to me, but whatever. 1561 01:30:37.039 --> 01:30:38.500 Uh, seems that way. 1562 01:30:39.079 --> 01:30:43.460 I'm at the ponder all pod, uh, on X. 1563 01:30:43.699 --> 01:30:45.500 That sounds so pornographic. 1564 01:30:45.800 --> 01:30:49.500 It's stupid. Elon Musk is out of his fucking mind, 1565 01:30:49.539 --> 01:30:52.560 by the way. Um, And then the Ponder All podcast 1566 01:30:52.760 --> 01:30:54.859 on Spotify. And then Adam Vargas and me, we have 1567 01:30:54.899 --> 01:31:01.180 our TV Time Machine podcast on Spotify. And our account 1568 01:31:01.220 --> 01:31:07.250 got removed on Twitter because I think I might have 1569 01:31:07.649 --> 01:31:11.010 sort of alluded to Ellen DeGeneres being a bitch. And 1570 01:31:11.050 --> 01:31:14.409 they removed me from the... Well, no. Here's what they did. 1571 01:31:14.590 --> 01:31:18.170 I called her a bitch. They removed me for 30 days. 1572 01:31:18.510 --> 01:31:19.149 Remember that, Adam? 1573 01:31:20.029 --> 01:31:23.350 They reinstated the account and I said, never fucking take 1574 01:31:23.369 --> 01:31:25.229 me off the account again or see what happens. Twitter 1575 01:31:26.149 --> 01:31:27.930 completely banned from for life on that. 1576 01:31:28.329 --> 01:31:28.550 Yeah. 1577 01:31:28.689 --> 01:31:33.970 They don't like threats. They, they said, no, that's not cool. 1578 01:31:33.989 --> 01:31:39.439 And you're like, fuck you. I dare you. They asked me, 1579 01:31:39.520 --> 01:31:43.020 they were like, so, but I'm on the, the ponder 1580 01:31:43.060 --> 01:31:45.979 all pod. And then, uh, yeah, we're going to keep 1581 01:31:46.159 --> 01:31:50.930 recording episodes about old TV shows. Um, And yeah, I 1582 01:31:50.970 --> 01:31:54.770 think my improv class does have the final is recorded. 1583 01:31:54.949 --> 01:31:56.689 So if it's of any quality, I'll put it up 1584 01:31:56.750 --> 01:31:59.010 on one of my YouTubes. I also don't want to 1585 01:31:59.029 --> 01:32:02.310 embarrass myself since I'm just starting out. So good stuff. 1586 01:32:02.369 --> 01:32:04.850 Keep those creative juices flowing. And if you're, of course, 1587 01:32:04.970 --> 01:32:07.310 ever in the Washington area, Spokane, you want to come 1588 01:32:07.329 --> 01:32:11.229 see Gonzaga, by all means. Gonzaga University is right down 1589 01:32:11.260 --> 01:32:14.140 the road. So I got plenty of room. Come crash. 1590 01:32:14.439 --> 01:32:16.720 And if I'm ever in, where is it? Sarasota? St. 1591 01:32:16.739 --> 01:32:16.979 Pete. 1592 01:32:17.560 --> 01:32:17.760 St. 1593 01:32:17.800 --> 01:32:18.060 Pete. 1594 01:32:18.180 --> 01:32:21.109 That's right. St. Peterburg. I should. My parents are moving back. 1595 01:32:21.170 --> 01:32:23.970 My parents left Bradenton in March. 1596 01:32:24.529 --> 01:32:25.649 Oh, it's just south of here. 1597 01:32:26.100 --> 01:32:29.439 They moved to El Paso, Texas. And then my mom said, 1598 01:32:29.640 --> 01:32:31.220 I don't like it here. I want to move back. 1599 01:32:31.619 --> 01:32:33.579 And after she convinced my poor dad to move there, 1600 01:32:33.600 --> 01:32:35.779 because all her friends are there, I was like, Ma, 1601 01:32:35.819 --> 01:32:38.350 you want to move back to Florida? He just left. 1602 01:32:38.510 --> 01:32:40.529 She's like, yeah, I don't like Texas. It's too dry. 1603 01:32:40.550 --> 01:32:42.569 I mean, you didn't know that going in? 1604 01:32:42.590 --> 01:32:47.979 Yeah, Florida's very wet. We're a moist state. 1605 01:32:50.359 --> 01:32:54.939 I wonder if that was one of the tourism slogans. 1606 01:32:55.340 --> 01:32:56.430 The moist state. 1607 01:32:56.970 --> 01:32:59.270 We're moist. 1608 01:32:59.270 --> 01:33:03.989 11 and a half months out of the year. 1609 01:33:04.050 --> 01:33:04.729 We're moist. 1610 01:33:05.109 --> 01:33:09.340 You're very moist. That word has got to go. This 1611 01:33:09.350 --> 01:33:13.640 was fun, man. Thank you so much. Thank you, Luis. 1612 01:33:13.699 --> 01:33:15.500 Please have a good week. If you need to ever 1613 01:33:16.170 --> 01:33:18.789 reach out and chat divorce stuff. I'm, I'm your guy. 1614 01:33:18.850 --> 01:33:22.149 We're going to start that foundation. And, uh, yeah, I 1615 01:33:22.170 --> 01:33:23.779 want you to read the script. I'm excited about it. 1616 01:33:24.020 --> 01:33:24.340 All right. 1617 01:33:24.979 --> 01:33:25.579 Love your brother. 1618 01:33:25.600 --> 01:33:25.939 All right. 1619 01:33:26.000 --> 01:33:27.399 Well, we'll talk to you, buddy, man. 1620 01:33:27.699 --> 01:33:29.060 Take care. Have a good week, bud. 1621 01:33:33.000 --> 01:33:35.680 That's it. That's all. Hope you had a ball. Thank you, 1622 01:33:35.739 --> 01:33:40.529 Luis Garcia. Please check out his podcasts and, uh, give 1623 01:33:40.569 --> 01:33:45.489 him a follow on X. Uh, and while you're at it, 1624 01:33:46.060 --> 01:33:48.479 follow me on all the things in the links below 1625 01:33:48.500 --> 01:33:53.619 and give my sponsors a visit. So, you know, they 1626 01:33:53.649 --> 01:33:55.250 know I sent you. I don't, I don't know what 1627 01:33:55.289 --> 01:34:01.329 to say for that. Um, I'm thinking boom, it's over. 1628 01:34:07.229 --> 01:34:11.340 Thanks for listening. It was amazing. I loved it. Be 1629 01:34:11.350 --> 01:34:14.119 sure to come back for another great episode. 1630 01:34:14.340 --> 01:34:16.380 I'm one wing away from Jeff Macalino. 1631 01:34:16.619 --> 01:34:20.100 Of the Jeff Macalino Podcast. How much time did you 1632 01:34:20.220 --> 01:34:22.430 spend on thinking of the name of your podcast? 1633 01:34:22.470 --> 01:34:23.710 You went just straight, that's my name. 1634 01:34:23.750 --> 01:34:25.060 I'll add the word podcast to it. 1635 01:34:25.289 --> 01:34:25.510 Yep. 1636 01:34:26.270 --> 01:34:26.890 See you next week.