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Well, our original plan was to make JFK X, which
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I really believe just blew the lid off of the
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entire zeitgeist. And we'll probably never get credit for it,
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but it is really, I believe changed the way that
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people look at a lot of things. And then it
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was a clockwork shining. And then we have plans to
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do a third movie, which was going to kind of
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revolve around the Beatles. Now we are, We've decided to
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do something different with that, but I want to get
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your thoughts and your opinions on exactly what happened with
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John Lennon and this reported car accident where they then
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replaced him.
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So the story goes, early morning, September 11th, 1966, Paul
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McCartney had just been told by his manager, Brian Epstein,
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that he had to have, John and him had to
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have 10 songs done, recorded in time for Christmas. And
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as anybody who knows songwriting, that's a tall order. 10
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songs in what? September, October, November?
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Four months?
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That's a tall order to write 10 songs. And he
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stormed out of the studio. It was like 4.35 in
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the morning. Sun was coming up. And he jumped in
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his car and he was driving down the road and
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he saw a really cute girl. And she recognized him
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and he picked her up in the car and she
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was flirting heavily with him. He missed the red light,
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ran through it, got smacked by a vehicle, got beheaded
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and died on the spot. John was in Germany shooting
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How I Won the War.
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It was a movie that he was in.
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And Brian Epstein called up John and said, you know,
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Paul's dead. And John completely lost his shit. And it
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was well known that the Beatles all had doubles. What
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they would do is their doubles would come in dressed
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as the Beatles in the front door of the hotel
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where all the girls were screaming. And the real Beatles
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would come through the back door. you know, with masks
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and glasses and hats and stuff, all disguised. So the
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Beatles all had doubles. That's a known fact. And Brian Epstein,
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trying to keep the corporation going, you know, chose the
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double that he had chosen for Paul. And that guy's
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name was Billy Shears. He was six foot three. Paul
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was six feet. So that was a serious problem there. And, but,
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with the combing of the hair and the dyeing of
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the hair. He had different eye color, so that was
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kind of a problem. So then he flew out to,
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he flew the new Paul, Billy Shears. Billy Shepherd is
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his name. John called him Billy Shears, because you Shears,
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Shepherd uses a shear. And he flew Billy Shepherd out
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to Germany to meet John. John was on the set.
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He was a complete and utter wreck. And really had
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no choice but to accept this guy in.
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And the thing with the new.
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Paul, as John would call him, Fall, fake Paul, right, Fall?
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He could play like 22 instruments, including trumpets and piano.
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And he was a really good drummer. He was actually
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a better drummer than Ringo, who didn't play on any
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of the Beatles songs.
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By the way, I don't think.
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And he was just a better musician, better singer. Paul
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couldn't read music, but the new Paul could. None of
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the Beatles could read music, but the new Paul was
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a very proficient studio musician. He was also a mimicry.
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So he put out an album under his own name
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years before of cover songs where he sounded just like
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the person that made the original song, right?
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And he was like a mimicry guy.
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And so Paul, they realized that we can't tour anymore
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because Paul's six foot three. We can't, everyone will see
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it because all the Beatles were all the same size.
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If you look at them in old, like Ed Sullivan
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shows and stuff. And so they said, well, we can't
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tour anymore. So they stopped touring and they started making
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heavy studio albums, which were, probably mostly produced by the
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new Paul. And he, because of his proficiency in music and,
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you know, they tell you in songs, Ringo saw, had
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a line in one of his songs, you were in
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a car crash and you lost your hair. Instead of had,
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he put hair, you know, and I had a dream today,
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a lucky man who made the grade, He got in
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a car accident and lost his head. You know, they're
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telling you, banned on the run. Paul McCartney, the new
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Paul McCartney, is about the ban being on the run
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after they had to do this switch. And so the
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new Paul has written a series of books that are
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very interesting. That's where I'm getting most of my information.
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He's saying that he's faked it. And his name is
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on the book. Sir Paul McCartney is on the book.
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They're called Billy's Back or something like, anyway, just look
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up Billy's Back on Amazon.
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You'll find it.
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And he's confessing to it. And here's the thing, is
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the original Paul McCartney got three women pregnant on tours.
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All three were Americans. All three sued Paul McCartney. But
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he died. And they had a new one.
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And so this guy had to go to trial and
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he went into one of his trials and the woman
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who was suing him walked up to him. She looked
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him up and down and says, you're not Paul, right
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in front of everybody in court, right?
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And then he gave DNA samples and they said, he's
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not the father.
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And so he won every lawsuit, but he wrote this
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book as a cover for his kids.
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So he's copping to everything. He has copped to everything.
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It's in a book. You can buy it on Amazon.
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And he's copping to the whole thing. He has to
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because it's going to be found out one day. And
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he's hoping that he can hold it off until after
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he dies. He's like 84 or something. So it's probably
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going to be coming soon. He is actually five years
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older than the original Paul. So instead of being 80,
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he's like 85. And and it's an incredible story. And
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I actually think the Beatles could be sued or fraud
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because it's not the real Paul.
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But I don't think I think those days are gone.
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It's all going to come out soon. I'm not even
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worried about it. And everybody's going to realize it.
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And, you know, he's probably not the only people that
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have been switched out. I mean, you got to keep
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the corporation going.
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Right. The Rolling Stones just put out an album. They're
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in their 80s. They just put on an album. It's
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clearly A.I. The whole album is A.I. It doesn't even
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sound like Mick Jagger. It doesn't at all. It sounds
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like A.I. The whole album sounds like, oh, let's put
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together an album. Write 12 songs that sound like the
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Rolling Stones. Right? That's it. Put their album out.
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And so, yeah, the Beatles, by.
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The way, didn't play their music. That was all.
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Played maybe after the Paul came, the old Paul came.
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The new Paul came, then maybe they were playing their instruments,
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but they were playing their instruments on those albums that
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they made. Those are like seriously professional musicians on those albums.
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They're doing stuff that you learned at Juilliard in your
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fifth year, right? And you're like two 20-year-olds writing these
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songs and writing this music.
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I'm sorry, it didn't.
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If you watch the Beatles, just type in YouTube and
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type in the Beatles and go watch videos of them
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they cut away every time that there's a guitar solo.
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Every time that George has to do a guitar solo,
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they cut away to something. But they don't show you
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George playing the guitar. And by the way, he plays
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guitar at 20 years old as good as Chet Atkins,
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who was the best country-western guitarist of all
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after 24 years old, he doesn't play like that anymore.
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Even though he's the greatest country-western guitarist in history, he
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decides he's never going to play that kind of music
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ever again. So, you know, the Beatles are, the boomers
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love the Beatles and they worship the Beatles and the
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Beatles are.
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Just an act. It's just an act. The whole thing
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is just an act. You know?
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Well, you got Quincy Jones saying that, The Beatles, Quincy
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Jones is like one of the most legendary producers ever
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in the history of music. He said in, I think
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it was like 2017 in like a big, huge interview
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for the New York Times or the Guardian, he said
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that the Beatles were the worst musicians in the world.
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That's exactly right.
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If you watch Peter Jackson's Get Back, their recording of
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Abbey Road, supposedly, Right?
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The entire movie, is them.
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Just like playing around on their instruments, never actually playing
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a song or anything, just, you know, each one of
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them dicking around on whatever instrument they have.
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And then.
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They have a two-song concert on the roof. of the
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studio at the very end. And so I was, I'd
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heard about this movie. I didn't see it. I have
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seen it now. I thought about if I was directing
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this concert, the only time that they ever were in public,
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how would I, how would I do it?
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So I don't reveal that Paul is six foot three.
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And I said, okay, what I.
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Would do is I put John and George over on
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one side together because they're the same size. And then
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I put Paul way over on the other side. And
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I'd shoot Paul from below, looking up, so you can't
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tell what his height.
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Is, right? I got that in my mind. I turned
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it on. I watched it. It's exactly what they did.
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Exactly what they did.
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They never show all four of them, you know, with
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their heads all level or whatever. You never see it.
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And so, you know, the thing is, is that it's
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kind of all fake, actually.
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I don't believe that Bob Dylan wrote thousand songs.
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And, you know, put out an album every four months
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and had 12 songs on it that were all like,
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you know, with lyrics and melodies and people don't do that.
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Bands today don't put out 15 albums in five years. Like,
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who are they? Imagine Dragons. They've had, they put out what?
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Four albums in 14 years.
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Four albums. They're turning out one album every three years, right?
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That's more like the rate that you should be producing
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your music.
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But in the 60s, everybody was producing 8, 10, 15 albums.
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And it's just not realistic. None of it was realistic.
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And that's the thing, too, is like a lot of
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these musicians that have died are more popular and more
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famous and make more money than they did when they
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were alive. Did you see this right here where Bob
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Dylan just meets with Pope Leo here? It looks like
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the Grim Reaper. You ever said Pope Leo looking like
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the Grim Reaper?
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Oh, that is funny.
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This just was yesterday. This was Wednesday, November 4th.
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Oh, Bob Dylan's lost about a foot of height. Looks like, whoa. Yeah,
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he looks like, I don't know.
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He looks like a little monster there.
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Weird. He's looking like a, that's a dichotomy there. It's
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a dualistic. You got the Pope all in white here,
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and then you got Bob Dylan.
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Bob Dylan admitted on 60 Minutes that he owed all
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of his success to the devil.
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