Transkrip penuh untuk Leadership Perspectives From RelFest London 2026

we look at Relativity in our platform, we could have continued to just 35 00:02:12,590 --> 00:02:18,510 bolt on cool AI things or decide we're gonna completely transform and disrupt the 36 00:02:18,510 --> 00:02:21,560 core and make an end-to-end AI platform. 37 00:02:23,762 --> 00:02:27,032 My name is Chris Brown, and I'm the chief product officer at Relativity. 38 00:02:28,662 --> 00:02:31,112 You just announced the acquisition of Gavel. 39 00:02:31,172 --> 00:02:32,142 Congratulations. 40 00:02:32,222 --> 00:02:35,412 How does that improve the Relativity ecosystem? 41 00:02:36,152 --> 00:02:38,922 We were really excited about this acquisition at Gavel, and 42 00:02:38,922 --> 00:02:41,972 it's a quick and long view of where we see the business going. 43 00:02:41,972 --> 00:02:46,182 The guiding strategy the last couple years is meeting legal 44 00:02:46,182 --> 00:02:47,502 practitioners where they are. 45 00:02:47,972 --> 00:02:51,442 They, of course, are inside RelativityOne, but they are now starting to engage 46 00:02:51,442 --> 00:02:55,052 in multiple surfaces as well, and one of them is Microsoft Word. 47 00:02:55,292 --> 00:02:59,492 When you think about all the setup we did on legal data intelligence use cases 48 00:02:59,492 --> 00:03:02,772 and the work you do to organize data, discover the truth, and act on it, we 49 00:03:02,772 --> 00:03:06,582 often think about examining trigger data and evidence, but if you're deep 50 00:03:06,582 --> 00:03:11,202 inside our platform, you know we're also generating a lot of work product so over 51 00:03:11,202 --> 00:03:14,992 time, that work product is becoming quite substantial, particularly our products 52 00:03:14,992 --> 00:03:17,182 like aiR for Case Strategy and aiR Assist. 53 00:03:17,512 --> 00:03:21,472 They're now allowing lawyers in the platform to pull together deposition 54 00:03:21,482 --> 00:03:24,472 outlines, do witness summaries, to a bunch of other things that 55 00:03:24,502 --> 00:03:26,152 ultimately get exported to Word. 56 00:03:26,482 --> 00:03:30,492 We really wanted to continue the experience to the lawyers, not exporting, 57 00:03:30,492 --> 00:03:34,892 but opening in Word, and inside of that Word experience, be able to ask questions 58 00:03:34,892 --> 00:03:39,182 still of the data to refine those outlines or those documents or those references, 59 00:03:39,952 --> 00:03:44,132 redline with potentially their boss heading into that deposition specifically, 60 00:03:44,502 --> 00:03:45,912 and then have those things synced back. 61 00:03:46,132 --> 00:03:49,092 Over time, at our scale, there's just so many work products being built. 62 00:03:49,532 --> 00:03:50,902 We wanted to extend that system of action. 63 00:03:50,902 --> 00:03:55,262 That's number one why we're excited about Gavel and a longer term 64 00:03:55,722 --> 00:03:57,132 vision, they're also a great team. 65 00:03:57,502 --> 00:04:01,532 The way they built a very small budding business, product-led

growth, 66 00:04:01,612 --> 00:04:05,032 earning one lawyer at a time into the platform really excited us, 67 00:04:05,032 --> 00:04:07,632 and they're technically extremely sharp, so they're just a great fit. 68 00:04:08,462 --> 00:04:14,962 In your keynote discussion, you talked about integrations and the success of aiR. 69 00:04:15,272 --> 00:04:19,572 Relativity became successful because it was able to create a way for 70 00:04:19,572 --> 00:04:22,732 people to build on it, embrace it, and use it in their own way. 71 00:04:22,922 --> 00:04:26,722 How is this new era continuing on that vision? 72 00:04:27,322 --> 00:04:31,582 What we're seeing in the market is that aiR is basically the new way to solve 73 00:04:31,682 --> 00:04:34,082 most use cases in incredible ways. 74 00:04:34,082 --> 00:04:39,042 One of the themes that really go back to Andrew Sieja is this theme of openness, 75 00:04:39,132 --> 00:04:43,542 and this notion the platform itself has to be able to be tapped into by the 76 00:04:43,542 --> 00:04:47,212 practitioners with their own expertise and extend it, whether that's through 77 00:04:47,232 --> 00:04:50,512 coding, knowledge sharing, through anything else they bring to bear. 78 00:04:50,512 --> 00:04:54,752 This week we announced custom analyses for aiR, and that was chiefly one of 79 00:04:54,752 --> 00:04:58,832 the motions to extend the platform and allow any practitioner to bring in 80 00:04:58,842 --> 00:05:03,222 their expertise and get results in a way that's scaled through Relativity. 81 00:05:03,222 --> 00:05:07,452 A lot of what we do in aiR is unblock adoption of different parts of the 82 00:05:07,452 --> 00:05:12,292 platform, unleashing the full community of practitioners is a major milestone. 83 00:05:12,622 --> 00:05:16,702 And today I showed a preview of where this is going for practitioners and lawyers. 84 00:05:16,752 --> 00:05:20,292 You could have an advanced practitioner build a custom analysis. 85 00:05:20,342 --> 00:05:23,602 Soon they'll be able to publish that skill for other people to participate 86 00:05:23,602 --> 00:05:25,682 and use later in the platform. 87 00:05:25,682 --> 00:05:28,462 It's also a way of harvesting their capabilities and offering 88 00:05:28,462 --> 00:05:29,742 it to more folks on their team. 89 00:05:30,492 --> 00:05:31,632 My name is Adam Weiss. 90 00:05:31,642 --> 00:05:35,322 I'm the chief administrative officer and chief legal officer of Relativity. 91 00:05:37,402 --> 00:05:41,712 The concept of governance, of a shifting regulatory environment 92 00:05:41,712 --> 00:05:43,882 came up in several presentations. 93 00:05:43,932 --> 00:05:46,762 You're the chief legal officer of the company. 94 00:05:47,112 --> 00:05:52,212 How do you see a differentiation in the way Relativity is used in Europe 95 00:05:52,222 --> 00:05:54,162 versus in the US or even in Australia? 96 00:05:54,702 --> 00:05:58,472 The beauty of what we do is there is differentiation, and we're able 97 00:05:58,472 --> 00:06:02,982 to accommodate that differentiation by geography, by jurisdiction, but 98 00:06:02,982 --> 00:06:06,972 there's also a lot of similarities, and whether you come to a session at 99 00:06:06,972 --> 00:06:12,122 RelFest London or RelFest Sydney or RelFest Chicago, a lot of the topics, 100 00:06:12,212 --> 00:06:15,542 a lot of the speakers, a lot of the information is going to be very similar. 101 00:06:15,862 --> 00:06:20,642 While laws do vary from jurisdiction to jurisdiction, Relativity as the AI 102 00:06:20,642 --> 00:06:24,512 platform for legal data intelligence is able to accommodate the whole range 103 00:06:24,752 --> 00:06:29,362 of matters that one might experience or deal with in a particular jurisdiction. 104 00:06:30,032 --> 00:06:33,712 Particularly this market in London, UK, and EMEA, governance 105 00:06:33,722 --> 00:06:35,572 and defensibility really matters. 106 00:06:35,822 --> 00:06:38,052 It's been part of the platform since the onset. 107 00:06:38,082 --> 00:06:41,402 What we're seeing is with people bringing more AI to use, they want 108 00:06:41,402 --> 00:06:44,982 it to be transparent, auditable, validated and defensible. 109 00:06:45,302 --> 00:06:48,152 They understand that at different parts in managing legal matters, 110 00:06:48,572 --> 00:06:52,162 that's essential to delivering the results and getting the ROI. 111 00:06:52,162 --> 00:06:55,912 From a product perspective, we're building governance, audit trails, the 112 00:06:55,912 --> 00:06:58,172 ways you validate into the platform. 113 00:06:58,272 --> 00:07:01,732 It's something we'll continue to invest in and the market demands. 114 00:07:01,807 --> 00:07:02,597 I'm Georgia Foster. 115 00:07:02,597 --> 00:07:06,237 The managing director and the vice president of sales for international. 116 00:07:06,237 --> 00:07:10,167 That encompasses EMEA and APAC region, so bringing all the goodness from the 117 00:07:10,167 --> 00:07:11,847 US out to the international markets. 118 00:07:12,547 --> 00:07:15,257 What was your objective for this year's RelFest London? 119 00:07:15,887 --> 00:07:19,047 Every year the objective is to bring the community together at all 120 00:07:19,047 --> 00:07:23,347 different levels and types of work, and certainly we see that again today. 121 00:07:23,677 --> 00:07:28,617 We've exceeded capacity in most rooms, and there were 70 people standing outside 122 00:07:28,617 --> 00:07:30,047 the keynote, which was phenomenal. 123 00:07:30,107 --> 00:07:35,517 Second was making sure that those that are starting to look at what AI 124 00:07:35,517 --> 00:07:39,377 works best for them and correctly, that they're understanding, unpacking, 125 00:07:39,377 --> 00:07:43,047 and alleviating some of the noise that exists today in terms of how to 126 00:07:43,047 --> 00:07:47,807 run defensible workflows in a robust system and how they do it correctly. 127 00:07:47,837 --> 00:07:52,157 The objective is as it always is to

celebrate our customers, to recognize 128 00:07:52,187 --> 00:07:58,017 them, to help them see what's coming down the pike, to hear from them, and to share 129 00:07:58,017 --> 00:08:00,237 best practices as we all rise together. 130 00:08:00,377 --> 00:08:05,127 That's really what we do at Fest, whether it's in Chicago, London, or in Sydney. 131 00:08:05,127 --> 00:08:08,227 We cannot ignore the elephant in the room, which is AI, and the 132 00:08:08,307 --> 00:08:10,277 pace of innovation and change. 133 00:08:10,637 --> 00:08:12,887 Our customers and our partners are very excited. 134 00:08:13,267 --> 00:08:15,587 There's probably a little bit of anxiety as well. 135 00:08:15,587 --> 00:08:18,857 But everybody is leaning into this change, and I think well-prepared. 136 00:08:19,207 --> 00:08:24,957 We're on this journey together, and the focus on AI, and certainly our AI 137 00:08:24,957 --> 00:08:28,187 platform for legal data intelligence, is more acute than it's ever been. 138 00:08:28,315 --> 00:08:31,005 Have you achieved your objective for this year's Rel Fest? 139 00:08:31,055 --> 00:08:35,265 We used to have major announcements on the stage at Chicago Fest, and we 140 00:08:35,265 --> 00:08:39,215 can't wait for October anymore because the innovation's coming out so fast. 141 00:08:39,745 --> 00:08:45,325 For Fest London to be announcing such major innovation and products to come, and 142 00:08:45,325 --> 00:08:48,575 just looking around at all the familiar faces and excellent people that make 143 00:08:48,575 --> 00:08:50,195 this community, really happy with it. 144 00:08:50,965 --> 00:08:54,475 David Horrigan, Discovery Counsel and Legal Education Director at Relativity. 145 00:08:55,405 --> 00:08:59,105 You hosted several panels at RelFest London this year. 146 00:08:59,495 --> 00:09:03,185 What were some of the key takeaways from the perspectives that were shared? 147 00:09:04,005 --> 00:09:08,005 We did one with the International Legal Technology Association, where we did a 148 00:09:08,005 --> 00:09:13,105 roundup of various AI data law issues, and today we had the research data session, 149 00:09:13,165 --> 00:09:16,475 and we discussed some of the research data we're doing, including some of the data 150 00:09:16,475 --> 00:09:18,085 that you and I have done over the years. 151 00:09:18,425 --> 00:09:21,581 One of the big issues was whether or not to disclose your use of 152 00:09:21,581 --> 00:09:25,811 any type of AI, and the data are showing that up to a third are not. 153 00:09:26,121 --> 00:09:28,691 But, the audience here in the United Kingdom was definitely 154 00:09:28,701 --> 00:09:32,511 full disclosure, probably because there is guidance here in the UK. 155 00:09:32,561 --> 00:09:36,521 What's the hope for what people will take from RelFest London when they 156 00:09:36,521 --> 00:09:38,461 leave and go back to their teams? 157 00:09:39,261 --> 00:09:44,171 Usable action that you can take, whether it's from case law, the practice guidance, 158 00:09:44,171 --> 00:09:47,521 the technical exhibits, the vendors that you see here, it's something you can 159 00:09:47,521 --> 00:09:49,481 take back and use on your job tomorrow. 160 00:09:49,731 --> 00:09:51,171 If we can do that, we've done our job. 161 00:09:52,381 --> 00:09:54,791 This market is particularly unique. 162 00:09:55,021 --> 00:09:57,541 It's not just the UK, even though the event is here. 163 00:09:57,601 --> 00:10:01,311 There are countries all across EMEA that we work with that are grappling with 164 00:10:01,331 --> 00:10:05,781 different policy changes and requirements and regulations, and coming together 165 00:10:05,781 --> 00:10:09,341 and trying to work through some of that in addition with the technology is key. 166 00:10:09,596 --> 00:10:13,006 Kristin Traylor, Senior Director, AI Transformation and 167 00:10:13,006 --> 00:10:14,826 Law Firm Strategy, Relativity 168 00:10:15,986 --> 00:10:17,626 Great panel at RelFest London. 169 00:10:18,376 --> 00:10:22,216 What was the focus for that discussion? 170 00:10:22,656 --> 00:10:26,086 To help the industry understand that we're way past pilots. 171 00:10:26,146 --> 00:10:29,546 We're at the point where we can start to standardize on how we're 172 00:10:29,546 --> 00:10:34,776 using generative AI in review, in disclosure, in investigations, helping 173 00:10:34,776 --> 00:10:39,276 people understand that there are ways to validate and understand what 174 00:10:39,276 --> 00:10:43,326 the technology is doing, how it's working, and to use it in live matters. 175 00:10:43,610 --> 00:10:49,670 What's different about Rel Fest London versus Rel Fest Sydney or the 176 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:51,540 traditional Relativity Fest in Chicago? 177 00:10:53,150 --> 00:10:56,750 I see it as an opportunity for rolling thunder. 178 00:10:56,970 --> 00:11:00,950 Almost like if you compare it to the old way of development in a 179 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:06,020 waterfall method versus a very clear AI native, agentic, agile manner. 180 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:11,510 These are stories that we are rolling out, and we began in Australia 181 00:11:11,940 --> 00:11:14,590 with the beginning of the year talking about where we're going. 182 00:11:14,610 --> 00:11:19,250 But it was really the first chapter of a couple of chapters to follow 183 00:11:19,290 --> 00:11:23,920 about the further transformation that we're making inside our business. 184 00:11:24,030 --> 00:11:29,140 Chris and his team, in the next week and over the past 30 days, have released 185 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:36,030 three innovation offerings right inside RelOne that weren't there at Fest Sydney. 186 00:11:36,170 --> 00:11:41,220 That's an example of this chapter after chapter showing that innovation at speed. 187 00:11:41,343 --> 00:11:45,583 What I find fascinating with our employee base throughout the world, is there is 188 00:11:45,583 --> 00:11:49,883 a common bond that binds relativians, no

matter their age, country, first 189 00:11:49,883 --> 00:11:55,253 language, religion, or culture, and that is our commitment to organizing data, 190 00:11:55,253 --> 00:11:59,293 discovering the truth, and acting on it, and by doing so, pursuing justice. 191 00:11:59,703 --> 00:12:01,363 That is shared by all relativians. 192 00:12:01,923 --> 00:12:05,733 Similarly, that's shared by our customers, no matter where they're located. 193 00:12:05,743 --> 00:12:09,673 So their needs may vary based on how big they are, whether they're a law 194 00:12:09,673 --> 00:12:15,353 firm or a corporation or a governmental entity or a legal service provider. 195 00:12:15,693 --> 00:12:18,723 But there are also a lot of the same shared challenges, 196 00:12:18,763 --> 00:12:19,783 no matter where they are. 197 00:12:19,783 --> 00:12:22,763 One of the things I love most about RelFest is getting that 198 00:12:22,763 --> 00:12:24,823 commonality, that similar spirit. 199 00:12:25,233 --> 00:12:28,653 No matter where one is in the world, we're all doing the same important work. 200 00:12:28,747 --> 00:12:31,557 Did you anticipate last year that you'd be having these conversations 201 00:12:31,577 --> 00:12:33,972 this year, and what do you think we'll be talking about next year? 202 00:12:34,061 --> 00:12:38,811 There are no crystal balls to ponder upon or to look at. 203 00:12:38,861 --> 00:12:44,081 A year ago, if you would have asked me we'd be this far accelerated as a 204 00:12:44,091 --> 00:12:49,151 market in terms of adoption of AI, I probably would have questioned that. 205 00:12:49,741 --> 00:12:51,871 If I could go back in time, I'd say there'd be more testing. 206 00:12:52,261 --> 00:12:55,411 What we have acknowledged is that we're way beyond testing. 207 00:12:55,941 --> 00:13:01,071 There's full up deployment of a variety of tools, which is really wonderful 208 00:13:01,551 --> 00:13:03,781 and candidly daunting at the same time. 209 00:13:04,421 --> 00:13:10,211 If we did our job right in the keynote, it was this balancing of opportunity 210 00:13:10,571 --> 00:13:12,371 and risk in the world we live in. 211 00:13:12,491 --> 00:13:18,531 We want to enable our community with the best tech and the best AI in the 212 00:13:18,531 --> 00:13:23,501 form of aiR for our clients in a very trusted, disciplined environment. 213 00:13:24,661 --> 00:13:28,621 We're very thoughtful about the governance required to do that and it's that balance. 214 00:13:28,621 --> 00:13:30,991 In the keynote, I called it the readiness gap. 215 00:13:31,401 --> 00:13:36,471 Part of the power of the AI platform for legal data intelligence is to 216 00:13:36,521 --> 00:13:39,781 contain risk so our customers can take advantage of the opportunity. 217 00:13:39,877 --> 00:13:45,357 This is Ari Kaplan at RelFest London 2026, speaking with Phil Saunders, 218 00:13:45,407 --> 00:13:50,742 Chris Brown , Adam Weiss, Kristin Traylor, Georgia Foster David Horrigan. 219 00:13:50,837 --> 00:13:52,527 Chris Phil thank you thank you very much 220 00:13:52,577 --> 00:13:53,307 Adam, what a privilege. 221 00:13:53,307 --> 00:13:53,957 Thank you so much. 222 00:13:54,057 --> 00:13:54,647 Thank you, Ari. 223 00:13:54,657 --> 00:13:55,197 Appreciate it. 224 00:13:55,339 --> 00:13:56,199 Kristin, thanks so much. 225 00:13:56,489 --> 00:13:56,959 Thank you. 226 00:13:57,519 --> 00:13:58,629 David, it's a privilege to collaborate. 227 00:13:58,629 --> 00:13:59,259 Great to talk to you. 228 00:13:59,459 --> 00:14:00,969 Ari, great working with you as always. 229 00:14:01,148 --> 00:14:02,098 Georgia, congratulations. 230 00:14:02,108 --> 00:14:02,488 Thank you. 231 00:14:02,668 --> 00:14:03,438 Thanks again for coming. 232 00:14:04,189 --> 00:14:07,759 Thank you for listening to the Reinventing Professionals podcast. 233 00:14:08,299 --> 00:14:14,839 Visit reinventingprofessionals.com or arikaplanadvisors.com to learn more.