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Speaker 1: Thank you.
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Speaker 2: I feel seen. I feel heard, Bone.
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Speaker 3: We have five references to nighttime soap opera Knotts Landing back in the day.
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Speaker 2: That was one, too.
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Speaker 4: Those nighttime soaps were big back in the day. Knotts Landing, 79 to 93, right in Max Prime.
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Speaker 3: Big old long run there, dude. Um, and then you had, um, uh, someone just gave a Falcon's crest shout out.
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Speaker 2: That was another one. I only know the name of that show. I don't really know much about it. Oh my God. I'm old, man. Damn. I'm getting old anyway. Uh, we got to get to it. Of course we, we took a trip to the Creek when I, uh, when I was younger. Dawson's Creek. There he is. That's your generation there. That's my knots landing. I like that. I liked Katie Holmes in that a lot. I did. And then she had her Tom Cruise face. I don't know. That got a little loopy. Daisy Duke getting some love.
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Speaker 3: Now we're just naming anybody that was on TV in the.
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Speaker 2: 80s and 90s. Yeah, Rita Sillman. We're just naming people. Oh, Miami vice though too. Oh, don't sleep on Miami. All right. Anyway, let's lock in baby.
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Speaker 3: Let's lock into the task at hand because we are in the midst of Tar Heel football and basketball season bone. And this is just a serious time for our conversations with Jones angel. And you know, we got to talk about Carolina getting a 17 point road win on the football side, the basketball side. There's some encouraging signs. There's some worrying trends. We could talk about it all with the voice of the Tar Heels and our regular Thursday guest, Jones Angel.
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Speaker 2: Hey, Jones, how you doing this week, man?
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Speaker 5: I remember when I was growing up, my sister, now this was not a nighttime soap, but my sister would watch Santa Barbara.
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Speaker 6: Oh, yeah.
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Speaker 2: That's a good one. Yeah. That's a whole nother conversation.
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Speaker 3: But when I was home in summer, I would watch these stupid soap operas and get way too into them.
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Speaker 2: Oh, that's a good one, Jones. Oh, my God.
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Speaker 3: Jones.
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Speaker 5: Okay, sorry, boys. I derailed us there.
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Speaker 2: No, no, no.
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Speaker 4: You tried to get us back on track, but on this show, that's impossible. UNC beats UConn over the weekend. From your assessment, and you're up close to the situation, why and in what area do you think Bill Belichick is most comfortable as a college coach year two compared to year one?
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Speaker 5: What a really good question. I don't think it's one thing. I think it's probably in several areas. Bill Belichick's been very successful as a football coach, so I think it would have been more unusual had he looked at last year when Carolina really struggled and gone, yes, all of this is fine. Let's just keep doing this. I think he realized that there were some things that needed to change. Certainly, kind of just the straight timing of everything I do think played a role where Coach Belichick entered, you know, from being in professional football his whole life. And so when he comes to Carolina, you know, he's not bringing players with him from another team as so many coaches do now, kind of trying to get a feel for the landscape and doing that on the fly, building the roster on the fly and all things that we've talked about that affected last year. So I do think that having just a better feel for the landscape in total is has been a big part of it. And this is totally my opinion. I just think that college and pros are a little bit different. I do think it's okay to be a little looser in college, to have a little bit of fun. I mean, these are younger guys, and I do think that's part of it. And so I think Coach Belichick has embraced that. He has a terrific relationship with the players on his team, a terrific relationship with his staff. And I think that makes a difference. And so, you know, it's, it's, it's probably a multifaceted answer, but I do think that the true answer is a really high level coach looked at things and said, okay, there's some adjustments that need to be made by me, by my staff, by the players to help us be more successful. And I, I think that's been the case.
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Speaker 3: The progress, you can see it, man. And, and I know I'm enjoying it and I hope he continues. And this game on Saturday Jones is such a good litmus test game.
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Speaker 2: It's at home.
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Speaker 3: This one is definitely winnable, but it's tough. How do you feel about the challenge? This would really show progress. You get a win like this. What do you think about the challenges Louisville prevents?
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Speaker 5: It's a big challenge. Louisville is so explosive defensively. I feel like I've said that word explosive in talking to people about Louisville about a million times this week. The stats for their offense are really pretty impressive. They're first in the ACC in rushing yards. top 10 in the nation in that category. And they do it with just these gashing run plays. And then when you start syncing up on the run and thinking that they're going to try and hit you again, then they play action and go over the top and they hit a big play there. They have scored a touchdown of 50 yards or more in every single game this year. That's a crazy stat to me. At least one touchdown of 50 yards or more in every single game. and they lead the country in plays of 20-plus yards, 30-plus yards, 40-plus yards. I mean, you watch them, guys, and they'll go, you know, you think you're doing good defensively, you get them for three yards, you get them for four yards, you get them for two yards, and then all of a sudden they go 70 yards. And they do that as well as anybody in the country. And so that's the big key for Carolina. Can you minimize the explosive plays? And then when Louisville inevitably
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gets a couple, because you're not just going to stop them from doing it, can you minimize the damage that occurs when those plays happen? To me, those are the two big keys for Carolina this week.
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Speaker 4: Jones, we got the news this week that the 2014 playoff uh going forward officially official after this season what's your takeaway on that in general but also how does 24 teams affect the heels going forward and the acc.
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Speaker 5: Yeah that's probably a longer discussion right guy we probably need the whole nine o'clock hour to really break down all of it you know i think in in the short term People like games. So, I mean, people like that. That's the one thing about college athletics that people still really enjoy the games. And so that part I think is, is good. You know, you're going to have games that, that matter games that'll have some pageantry and some excitement to them. I wish they'd keep more rounds of the post-season on campus. I think that's a way to really make it a good event is if, even if you kept the quarterfinals and the semifinals on campus locations, because I think that makes it feel more college. But there are some bigger picture things here, right? I mean, What's the real reason this is occurring? Is it because there's some TV aspect to it? Absolutely. Is it because donors need to feel more return on investment on this massive amount of money that people are spending on rosters? Yes, that's part of it, too. And then I think the discussion, I think it was Eli Drinkwitz of Missouri. who said something earlier this week about, you know, if we're not playing for conference championships anymore because the championship games are going away and the conferences are so big that you kind of have a champion at the end of the regular season. But if you're not playing for those anymore, what's the purpose of a conference? Is it just a scheduling agreement at this point? And if that's the case, then why are you flying to Stanford and Cal? No offense to those two teams, but if we're just doing this for a scheduling agreement, why are we flying across the country to play games? And so I do think, guys, there are going to be some long-term, bigger picture ramifications and questions that need to be answered, particularly when it comes to conferences.
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Speaker 6: All right.
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Speaker 3: So, Jones, I do want to at least ask you one hoops question. They've been winning. They're winning these games.
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Speaker 6: Right.
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Speaker 3: But just ask Michael Malone, who started his press conference the other night by telling everybody, yeah, I challenged the manhood at halftime of every dang player. and they got to be tough. These teams come in here and they know they can rebound against us. And I'll be damned if it didn't work Jones and they didn't play tougher and much better on the boards in the second half. What do you think? Obviously it's a growth process. Like they will keep improving with a
coach like Michael Malone. What I, I guess the big, the big worry still has to be that rebounding situation. What, what are the, what are the, a couple of worries and what are a couple of the positive signs you're seeing?
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Speaker 5: Yeah, first of all, I thought that was just an awesome post-game press conference and an awesome press conference from Michael Malone the other day. He's been great in those scenarios in total, but I thought this one in particular was really good. And what was it?
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Speaker 6: He said the.
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Speaker 2: Streets are talking, and on the streets.
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Speaker 5: They're saying they can come into the Smith Center and push these boys around. I mean, that's a pretty frank statement, right, from a coach. And I think what made that connect– was I guarantee, maybe not that same language, but I guarantee that people in the stands were saying the same thing. And Carolina fans were saying the same thing. And so to hear it from your head coach– and to understand that he understands the problem. And I do think that was a big positive. But then later in the press conference, Coach Malone said about the symbol, I've got to love them, I've got to pour into them, I've got to coach them, keep them accountable, but I've got to teach them. I mean, just every chord of it was correct. So I'll be fast here in answering your question. Rebounding is the number one issue, It is an issue in so many different ways because Carolina is playing pretty good defense. The Tar Heels are holding teams to low percentages. They're forcing some turnovers. They're doing some good things defensively. But it doesn't matter if you let a team get four or five shots on a possession. Eventually, teams are going to score. Carolina's not getting a lot of second-chance opportunities. That has forever been a way that Carolina has scored, and it's obviously such a way– that teams can be successful to get those second and third chance opportunities. And finally, it's harder to run. It doesn't mean you can't do it, but if you aren't getting stops and completing the stops with a rebound, it's harder to get out and run. Carolina's really good in transition, but it's got to get the rebound to start that transition.
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Speaker 3: Awesome stuff, Jones. You got yourself a little back-to-back coming up this weekend. The basketball team hosts Georgia tomorrow night, 7 o'clock. So the network pregame, Tar Heel Radio Network, 6 o'clock. And then it's a 7 o'clock football game in Chapel Hill as well at Kenan. on saturday seven o'clock with the six o'clock uh pre-game whatever the heck i'm trying whatever language i'm trying to speak here bone uh y'all got y'all know what i'm trying to say.
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Speaker 2: We think it was english but we're investigating.
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Speaker 3: Tarheel radio network hope you win them both jones thanks for coming on man we appreciate.
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Speaker 6: You Thanks, guys. We'll lock in on, like, days of our lives and.
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Speaker 5: Young and the Restless next week.
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Speaker 2: Daytime. We're going to move to the daytime soaps fully next week. All right, brother. Be good. There you go. GH man for life. Oh, yeah.
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Speaker 3: Our guy AC was texting in about the Luke and Laura romance back in the day.
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Speaker 2: That's still on, isn't it? General Hospital?
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Speaker 4: It's still on. That's crazy. RIP Luke, who passed away in real life last year. I will say, Mac, though, when I was a kid, I remember coming home from school. and watching Sonny Carinthos scheme his way through life. And at 43 years old, I come home from work, and I watch Sonny scheme his way through life. Still going, and he's not dead yet. He's still on, right? Still going, man. It's crazy.
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Speaker 2: And still not in jail for life somehow. It's crazy, man. Yeah, he was like the mob guy, right?
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Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
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Speaker 2: Like the head mob guy. Yeah, I remember that.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, in the summer, I had no neighbors, really, so I had no one to play with in the summer. So, like, I got into my teens and I like my mom would have soap operas on.
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Speaker 2: I'd be like, these are kind of good. Oprah was on.
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Speaker 4: Oprah and all the daytime talk shows were on back then as well. Now, you know who plays the role of the great Brick, Detective Brick on General Hospital now?
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Speaker 2: You're telling me that you committed that murder? Stephen A.
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Speaker 5: Smith?
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Speaker 2: That's when they lost me, when General Hospital put Stephen A.
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Speaker 5: On.
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Speaker 3: How long until McAfee's on there? AC with a Susan Lucci shout-out. That was all my children.
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Speaker 6: AC?
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Speaker 2: What the heck are we doing today, talking about all these shows? I don't know.
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Speaker 3: Speaking of the Heels, shout-out to the Lady Heels soccer team as well. They're playing in a semi today in the ACC Women's Tournament against Duke.
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Speaker 2: Shout out to the lady heels. We got my attention there. Sorry, bone.
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Speaker 6: Sorry.
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Speaker 2: I'm not shouting out the lady devils. Duke wins. Um, fit.
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Speaker 3: What do you think, brother? You think the heels can get Louisville? Like that's the type of game that I think they can win. I don't think I'm, I don't know if I'm going to jinx you and say they do win it, but that one's there, bro.
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Speaker 2: That's a pro. And that's one that'll show real freaking progress.
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Speaker 7: If you can get that, that's the thing, Mac, like it's, it's a game at home.
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Speaker 1: And it's an opponent that if you win, you've got to give some pedigree to what Bill Belichick is doing.
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Speaker 2: Because he doesn't really have.
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Speaker 1: A home when he can point to and say, hey, this is going in the right direction. It still is, but we as Carolina fans that
go to that stadium, we haven't walked out of the stadium with that feeling. You get this one on Saturday night, you get the bowl eligibility, you beat a program like Louisville, then that'll secure that feeling for this year. The way this offense is playing, I'm really confident. Beginning of the year, I don't think we could get into a shootout and win a game like this. They've scored 30 points or more three straight games.
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Speaker 3: I mean, that's the thing is you were right in a shootout against Miami. Like, if my whole thing against Miami was bone, I just don't think the Heels can score with them.
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Speaker 2: And then they go out there and score with them. Well, yeah.
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Speaker 3: Fitz, right, the Louisville game will probably be the same, but who's to say they can't get in a game like that and have a chance to pull it off?
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Speaker 4: They knocked on the door against Notre Dame and Miami. Louisville, not as good as those teams. Who's to say UNC can't kick that door down and seal the deal on this one?
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Speaker 2: I agree with Fitty.
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Speaker 4: If I was a Heels fan, and I'm not, this just in, but I think this feels like three-and-a-half-point underdogs, not a lot.
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Speaker 2: I think this is.
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Speaker 4: A week for Belichick to get his biggest win as head coach. Man, I might pick them two, Bone. I may pick them boys. Finney, we may join forces, baby, tomorrow.
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Speaker 2: I'll see. I'll see. Don't sigh just yet.
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Speaker 3: This texter says, yeah, Finney, it's a huge game on Saturday night for our Tar Heels. So what does the Misses have you doing where you won't be able to watch it?
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Speaker 7: Joke's on him because she might be going to the game.
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Speaker 8: Oh.
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Speaker 1: And she's made it known she wants to go to Chapel Hill. She wants to experience a Carolina game.
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Speaker 2: Well, there you go.
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Speaker 3: No, no, no.
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Speaker 9: Hold on.
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Speaker 2: Take that, sir.
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Speaker 5: Hold on. No.
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Speaker 2: Before the audience asks. What happens to Flounder then?
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Speaker 7: He'll be there too.
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Speaker 6: Oh, okay.
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Speaker 2: Family trip. Okay, family trip. I thought family trip. I thought Flounder got the boot. I thought Flounder got moved out of there.
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Speaker 3: Now, if y'all only had two tickets, Flounder would definitely get the boot quick, wouldn't he?
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Speaker 2: Are you two going to argue? Are you two going to argue in her presence like you normally do? Yeah, probably.
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Speaker 4: All right, we come back. A man we never argue with, Mack, live from Phoenix. Sam Farber, the voice of the Hornets. How winnable are these next two games? Sports Radio, 92.7 WFNZ.
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Speaker 3: Sports Radio 92.7 WFNZ.
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Speaker 2: Mack and Bone with you.
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Speaker 3: Trying to set, Bone, the Guinness record for the most 80s and 90s references you can get in the year 2026 on a radio show text line. There are so many old TV show references. I'm here for it, baby. We started it. We're here for it. There's a new show called Young and the Fitless.
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Speaker 4: It's Flounder's journey through life since his best buddy got married.
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Speaker 6: Ha, ha, ha.
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Speaker 2: Oh, wonder it all show. Three's a crowd. Three's a crowd.
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Speaker 6: Also.
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Speaker 3: That's the, that's the story of these three going to the football game together. Oh my goodness, man. I'm so happy for Fitty though, man. I'm telling you right now, fit.
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Speaker 2: I am so excited. Anything you need to wedding plan fit.
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Speaker 4: I will.
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Speaker 2: I didn't do anything to wedding plan for my own wedding. I'll do anything for y'all's wedding, man. Just let me know.
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Speaker 7: Thank you, man.
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Speaker 2: Hopefully I didn't curse it, though.
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Speaker 7: That's the big thing here.
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Speaker 2: You like me to just keep my distance? Yes.
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Speaker 3: By the way, multiple Niner fans pointing out if I'm going to send conference tournament soccer shout-outs locally, how about the Charlotte 49er men?
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Speaker 6: They won.
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Speaker 2: 3-0 last night against Missouri State.
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Speaker 3: So they're in this weekend's conference final against No.
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Speaker 2: 1 seed Tulsa. Very cool. We'll give them a shout.
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Speaker 3: Feel free, along with your 80s TV references on the text line, send in your shout-outs as well for local college programs.
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Speaker 2: We have really spiraled.
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Speaker 4: This is the most I've spiraled since yesterday afternoon when I over-gummied.
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Speaker 3: Hey at least you're back sober with the rest of well i don't know.
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Speaker 4: I'm working on it here all right i'm still seeing stars and hearing colors let's focus on um pro sports now specifically the charlotte hornets Sam Farber, nice enough to be up nice and early out there, although we did push him back an hour, give him a little bit more sleep.
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Speaker 3: But he's in Phoenix for the start of tonight's road trip out west against the Suns. And Sam Farber, voice of the Hornets on the radio side, joins us on the Mac and Bone Show.
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Speaker 2: Sam, how's Phoenix treating you, man? What's going on?
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Speaker 6: Phoenix is beautiful, but I got so many questions. Did I miss an engagement? Did something happen here?
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Speaker 2: No, Phinney's just been dating a girl for a month.
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Speaker 9: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: I might have gotten a little overzealous, Sammy. We're really wanting another WFNZ wedding to happen. We might be trying to force it here one day.
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Speaker 6: Trying to speak it into existence. I thought maybe I missed a bit, but did I do that? But no, I didn't do that this time, so there you go.
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Speaker 2: All right.
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Speaker 6: Nothing for the Urkel reference? Nothing? No? Not good enough?
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Speaker 2: I missed you. One flew over my head there. No, you got me on that one there.
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Speaker 4: You're on your West Coast tie, but you still got your game.
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Speaker 2: Going on there, Sammy. I'm trying.
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Speaker 6: I'm trying.
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Speaker 2: Sam, what did you think of the Hornets the other night?
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Speaker 3: I can imagine that you, in your seat, calling the game, you had to have the same exhilaration watching the shots go in that Hornet fans did.
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Speaker 6: I mean, specifically being here in Arizona, it felt like water for someone thirsty in the desert. The team not only had been at the bottom in so many offensive statistical categories, but it was odd because we were 10 games in, and there hadn't even been an outlier yet, where usually a team that's an outright bad team, and I don't think the Hornets are, for the record. They are not a bad team shooting the ball. But even a team that would be a bad team shooting, would have a off night in the opposite direction and shoot 40% from three and just run into a decent shooting day. That hadn't happened at all for Charlotte, so it felt very much... overdue for the team. Not to say that shooting 50% from three should be expected as the norm, because there's not a team in NBA history that's really demonstrated that. But it did feel closer to what I think we can expect on a routine basis because there's a track record for these guys. They are accustomed to knocking down shots throughout their career. So it was well overdue in general. It was badly needed to snap that six game slide. And hopefully it's something that can continue here because the beginning of this road trip does offer some opportunities to put some more W's in the column.
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Speaker 4: Sam, how close do you think Kobe White is to becoming the full Kobe after the time off and the injury?
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Speaker 6: He does, from a physical, his movement standpoint, look closer and closer with every game. And having that trust in that calf to have the kind of explosiveness that we grew accustomed to late in the last season, You know, that that's something that's badly needed for this team. At the same time, you obviously you can't afford a relapse here. So, you know, taking Kobe at whatever percentage you would say he is right now is better than not having him at all on the floor, particularly with Dennis Schroeder being out for a couple of weeks. So it's really hard to say he's the one who knows his body the best. But I do think he has been making great strides, not just getting on the court, period, end of sentence, but actually looking more and more like himself out there. And last game, even though the shots haven't been falling, he had, I think, a nine-assist contest. So that's exactly what the Hornets need right now.
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Speaker 3: We're talking with Sam Farber, voice of your Charlotte Hornets. Hornets start the road trip out west tonight, Phoenix, 9 o'clock game. So 8 o'clock for Bone and KB on the pregame. Next game will be in L.A.
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Speaker 2: On Sunday.
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Speaker 3: A Sunday afternoon tilt, which will be 4.30 our time for the game, 3.30 pregame. Sam, I apologize in advance if you get a distracted T-bone during the pregame show on Sunday. The Panthers will be probably in the middle of a stressful ending while you guys are talking on the pregame show.
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Speaker 2: Oh, no.
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Speaker 9: Usually the NBA does a really good job of avoiding the heart of these– These football windows, basically. And this one, they just put it right smack dab in the middle. I don't know where the Clippers have to get to that they need to fly out earlier. But it's a little bit of a surprise that they couldn't put that one later. But I guess for T-bone sleep patterns, it might be for the best.
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Speaker 2: Usually, we've had a lot of.
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Speaker 4: hornets pregame shows that come on right at the very end of a panthers.
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Speaker 2: Game like after we don't normally have a.
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Speaker 4: Fourth quarter uh 331 but don't don't worry about my focus sam i've got my little gummies i could chew to keep my focus oh.
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Speaker 6: No i don't know i don't know that that's what they're talking about with the with those gummies are four um but I do think as a sports fan, this is perfection here. You can watch the Panthers on the TV and you can tune in on 92.7 Sports Radio WFNZ to the Hornets. You get both at the same time.
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Speaker 2: There you go, baby. Wonderful. There you go. Sam, what do you think?
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Speaker 3: The Lakers, that one feels like a hell of a challenge with the way they're playing. That will be the Tuesday night game, but these next two at the risk of going so far that I curse it, Sam, I will just tee you up for this. Like talk to us about, obviously we know miles bridges is.
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Speaker 2: Now at Phoenix.
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Speaker 3: So it'll be a reunion of sorts tonight, but it feels like games tonight against Phoenix and against the Clippers. It feels like those games are winnable.
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Speaker 2: What do you think?
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Speaker 6: Most definitely they are. And I think anytime you go on the road, particularly to the West coast, anything in the vicinity of 500 on the trip is a positive. So for this one in particular, you know, to split it and go two and two, that would be a great success, particularly with the the tonnage of injuries that the Charlotte Hornets are facing right now. You go two and two there, I think you're feeling really, really good about this trip. And that puts some added importance on these games. It's not going to be easy. Phoenix is coming off a victory. But if you look at the numbers, the Hornets are the best rebounding team in the NBA, depending on which category you look at, either one or at least top five. and depending on which category you
look at, Phoenix is either the worst or bottom five. So I think rebounding is going to be a really big key. The Suns are facing some injury issues this season, in particular their center, a guy we're familiar with, Mark Williams. He has been out and will be out for an extended period of time. They've got other talent at that position, but they're younger players, and they don't have the rebounding pedigree of a Ryan Kalkbrenner or a Musa Diabate, who's supposed to return tonight, or Grant Williams, who is probable. to return tonight so I think there is a real opportunity for Charlotte even if they relapse and don't have a great shooting effort if you can dominate the boards against a team that really struggles in that category you might be able to attempt 15-20 extra shots and use that as your advantage to get the win.
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Speaker 4: Sam we've talked a lot about the absence of Khan and when Kobe was out maybe not so much about Grant Williams what what does his return add and what did they miss while he's been out I think.
00:25:11
Speaker 6: There's just a level of consistency that you get with Grant as a veteran of the position. It's not to say that the production on a one- or two-night basis hasn't been there. I think we've seen really good. Tijon's second quarter the other day was magnificent. I don't know what more you would want from someone playing roughly. the same position. And, you know, I think defensively, this team has been really, really good over the course of the season, despite not having Grant Williams out there. So that's a credit to the coaching staff and to the players filling in. But if we're being honest with ourselves, you know, there's a reason why Grant Williams has been in the league as long as he has with his, you know, overall shooting ability for sure. But defensively and his toughness, Those are things that he's brought to several organizations now, and we've missed that. So I think having someone who has the level of consistency in those positions, still leaving room for guys like Tijon and Liam McNeely to get in there and take those minutes as well. But I think that will be an added boost to shot the arm there for Charlotte.
00:26:09
Speaker 3: Sam, I'm going to ask you about something. We played a clip from the Bill Simmons podcast earlier where Rob Mahoney and Bill Simmons were talking about Brandon Miller, and they kind of thought what we've seen in this short sample without LaMelo, like... he is not a number one guy on like a championship contender. Would you, I love Brandon, but I might say, eh, they're probably right. Although he didn't have con with him. He didn't have Kobe healthy.
00:26:38
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
00:26:39
Speaker 3: He was, he was kind of on his own there early in the season. Would you push back on that? What do you think about that?
00:26:46
Speaker 6: I think what you said there, you know, nails it is that it's at best and incomplete. I have the utmost respect. belief in Brandon and his game. And, you know, we saw in those three straight 30-point performances, you know, just how good of a score he can be. And that, by the way, was with all the other injuries that prevented him from having running mates and people to take some of the pressure off of him from the opposition's defense. But it's really hard to say, you know, I mean, like, look at Phoenix right now. Everyone loves Devin Booker out here and sees him. You know, he's been a perennial all-star. He's been an extremely high-level scorer, kind of like what we saw in that two-week span there. from Brandon Miller before he got hurt. But he hasn't been able to lead a team because he has not consistently had running mates who were able to assist him to getting over the hump. At least that's the theory of the case here in Phoenix. So I would say it's early to make a call like that. I would love to see what this team looked like with Conniffle, with Kobe White, with all these injured players back around Brandon Miller and see what he does as a leader. Because I think he has all the qualities and capabilities to do it. But I think it's a little unfair through, you know, 10 games where he's kind of the only guy out there to say we have definitive proof that he is or isn't anything.
00:28:01
Speaker 3: All right, Sam, uh, we, you are the man. We appreciate you. Um, you head back to us, to, uh, to Cali. Um, I know you're going to enjoy that, um, after Phoenix. So have fun out there, back out on the West coast. We'll talk to you next week, man.
00:28:17
Speaker 6: Appreciate you guys. Let me know when my wedding invite is coming, and I will try and do better on my 80s and 90s references. I'll make them clearer next time.
00:28:25
Speaker 2: No, you were good. The texters got it. Bone and I were asleep at the wheel, man. Sam, I'm on, like, a TBS, like, five-minute delay today, so don't worry about me. That is true. I'm the one that messed up.
00:28:34
Speaker 6: TBS is the perfect place to watch an 80s or 90s episode.
00:28:39
Speaker 2: Sam, it's too short for me today, I'll be honest with you.
00:28:41
Speaker 3: I know, seriously. Bone's still in a haze from yesterday. All right, Sam, have a good call tonight, brother.
00:28:47
Speaker 6: Thank you, guys. Talk to everybody soon.
00:28:48
Speaker 2: All right, there you go. That is Sam Farber.
00:28:50
Speaker 3: We were talking, Bone, about the Sunday, having a little fun, talking about the fact you'll be on the air doing the Hornets pregame and the Panther game will be ending. I don't think there'll be any overlap on the games, though, right? Because by the time they tip, it'll be about 440.
00:29:05
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know.
00:29:07
Speaker 4: Unless it goes into a crazy, almost tied overtime situation.
00:29:11
Speaker 3: But we do have a situation coming up, and I swear, I don't even remember– I could be wrong, but I don't remember if this has happened before where the Hornets and the Panthers have been playing
at the same time.
00:29:22
Speaker 2: Monday night at the end of the month, right after Thanksgiving. Yeah, I think it's the 30th. Is that what it is? When the Hornets play Tampa or the Hornets play Tampa. My God, it's got really wild. Come on, Mac, you dumbass.
00:29:35
Speaker 3: When the when the Panthers are playing Tampa um, on Monday night football, the Hornets have a game that night.
00:29:42
Speaker 5: Yeah.
00:29:42
Speaker 2: I guess against the wizard.
00:29:43
Speaker 6: Yeah.
00:29:43
Speaker 3: The wizards seven o'clock tip. So there will be overlap there. And I could be wrong. I'm sure it has to have happened like once. in the two decades plus that we've been here but like it's.
00:29:55
Speaker 4: Very rare man same day yeah but not normally they try to avoid i would think that for towns you know and that yeah no doubt when we come back it is the wrap-up we get you set for thursday night football and the hornets as well sports radio and and the canes in finland sports radio that's right 92.7 wfnz.
00:30:36
Speaker 2: DA, what's going on? What's up? I'm good, Di. Good to be here. Just wondering, have you seen any good memes lately? Yeah, a lot of them, a lot of memes out there. Thank you for reminding me. I will say, though, I do think the AI version of me is like it's like an L.A.
00:30:57
Speaker 5: 10.
00:30:57
Speaker 2: It's like that is the way I want to look. My nose is small. My forehead is only like three fingers. You know, I'm like, this is what I want to look like. Yeah, the stylized AI version of Diana Rossini. I got to tell you, my favorite one is the tiny desk.
00:31:14
Speaker 5: I mean, to have Rabel and the Patriots playing outstanding and then, I mean, the big reveal being.
00:31:21
Speaker 2: You on sax is amazing.
00:31:23
Speaker 5: That to me was peak apex Diana Rossini and this whole thing with the memes.
00:31:30
Speaker 2: It was miserable.
00:31:31
Speaker 6: But the joke that I had about it was I actually play the saxophone, which is funny.
00:31:41
Speaker 3: That is a clip from Diana Rossini's return performance to sports media. She's got the Rossini show that is on the BetUS.
00:31:54
Speaker 2: TV, which you can watch on YouTube. You can get in podcast form.
00:31:57
Speaker 3: And that is her and Damon Amendolaura, DA, longtime radio host, who I really have liked listening to on radio over the years. That was cringy, though. That little rehearsed because, you know, that was rehearsed and set up that little preplanned thing where they joke about the memes making fun of Diana together.
00:32:17
Speaker 2: That was that was cringy, man.
00:32:20
Speaker 4: It was cringe, Meg. I don't mean to turn our attention to something more serious here. But we have some breaking, rather shocking broadcasting news. The longtime voice of NBC Golf, as well as many of the Olympic events, including swimming, Dan Hicks, has passed away at 64 years old.
00:32:42
Speaker 2: He's 64, man.
00:32:44
Speaker 4: I mean, he's the current, obviously he's passing, but he's the current main voice of NBC Golf. The longtime husband of former Charlottean and NBC Charlotte, anchor um hannah storm wow dan hicks back passes away at 64 years old too.
00:33:00
Speaker 2: Damn young man that's sad that's definitely.
00:33:02
Speaker 4: Sad yeah i didn't mean to take away from what we're talking about but i do it's just breaking uh as we're talking right now they're the golf channel right now is talking all about it so uh our thoughts to hannah and certainly the uh Hicks family.
00:33:15
Speaker 3: Yeah, the whole family, man. Rest in peace to Dan Hicks. Talented dude, man. Real solid. Real damn solid.
00:33:22
Speaker 4: Actually, he was doing the Notre Dame game this weekend because he's still doing a lot of Notre Dame. When it's not Noah Eagle and Todd Blackledge, he does a lot of the Notre Dame non-Big Ten games over there.
00:33:34
Speaker 2: That's true. That's a good point. All right.
00:33:36
Speaker 3: So what do we have coming up in sports today? You've got the Canes, one of these two Finland games against the Kraken. Noon our time today. You have Hornets Suns. We've been talking about it throughout the day. We talked about with Sam Farber. Nine o'clock start tonight. Eight o'clock pregame here on WFNZ. The Miles Bridges reunion game. I thought the Miles Bridges fan club would come out on the text line, all like six of them. I think maybe tomorrow, maybe tomorrow. I think that they forget where he is. Does it look like a particularly great season? Like all right.
00:34:09
Speaker 2: Season 15, seven and three, I think is what he's averaging. I like to call it a miles bridges like season.
00:34:14
Speaker 3: Yeah, it is not really making threes 32% from three. So yeah, kind of his normal season and Washington and the giants tonight. As Bone pointed out earlier, the rematch of the dumbest ending in the history, maybe, of football.
00:34:30
Speaker 4: I will say, normally when they get together, there is entertainment value with these teams.
00:34:34
Speaker 2: So this is not going to lack, Mac.
00:34:36
Speaker 4: It may not be a game that's played necessarily at the highest level, but I'm going to promise you.
00:34:43
Speaker 2: This is going to be one to watch to the end here with these two. I like it. I'm with you. I'm with you.
00:34:47
Speaker 3: So, Bone, we're getting a lot of comments about you being high and taking too much dosage of your gummies yesterday.
00:34:54
Speaker 2: The old over-gummying situation yesterday. Steven and Waxwell. Twelve times the amount Matt calculated today.
00:34:59
Speaker 3: Yeah, because if you took three full gummies and it was only supposed to be one quarter of a gummy, yeah, you went way high.
00:35:06
Speaker 4: I was seeing people from my past, and I was also seeing my future at the same time.
00:35:11
Speaker 7: How'd it look?
00:35:12
Speaker 2: Not good. Okay, damn. Neither one.
00:35:15
Speaker 3: Steven in Waxall says,
Bone, I ate too much of a gummy once.
00:35:19
Speaker 2: Literally got lost working under a house. Under a house? I felt like I was under a house yesterday.
00:35:26
Speaker 3: Not to be outdone, another texter says, Travis, if you get high again like that.
00:35:33
Speaker 2: Watch Willy Wonka and Alice in Wonderland.
00:35:36
Speaker 3: Oh, I watch Willy Wonka anyway. Somebody is definitely speaking from experience. It seems like that is your routine. Maybe your Friday night ritual, sir.
00:35:43
Speaker 4: And I thought a shower would just make it go away. Like all of a sudden I hop in the shower.
00:35:48
Speaker 2: And the water just... You're fine. Oh, you weren't washing that buzz away. Oh, my God. The shower was horrible. I felt like I was going to fall down.
00:35:55
Speaker 4: And when I tried to climb out of the shower back, it was like coming down a mountain. I was going so slow. Like, don't fall. I thought I was going to die coming out of the shower. I was going to be found in the.
00:36:05
Speaker 2: Nude on the bathroom floor like Elvis. Was Elvis on the ground? Or was Elvis? I think he was, right?
00:36:10
Speaker 4: He was on the toilet, wasn't he? A toilet, yeah, a toilet. I would love to have video of that yesterday. Me naked on the ground? No, I'm not talking about the naked part. I guess I need to be more specific.
00:36:19
Speaker 2: That's all right.
00:36:19
Speaker 3: Just in general, some of your high moments. I didn't mean that one in particular. I was trying to walk Murphy and my legs wouldn't work. Let's see what else we have going on here on the text line.
00:36:32
Speaker 2: Dr.
00:36:33
Speaker 3: Suave predicts that Maddie will have 50 turkey hunting this weekend.
00:36:38
Speaker 2: Dirty hunting. Is Maddie like a hunter or from a hunting family? She's not.
00:36:44
Speaker 7: Her brother-in-law is big into camping.
00:36:46
Speaker 2: Okay.
00:36:47
Speaker 7: And I've been invited on a camping trip after Christmas.
00:36:49
Speaker 2: Oh, there you go, man.
00:36:50
Speaker 4: I can't wait until she has Finigo Clark Griswold with the Christmas tree.
00:36:55
Speaker 7: His family owns a tree lot, and they need some help. You'll be out there next week.
00:37:02
Speaker 2: You are a family member right now, baby. I love it. Let's see here.
00:37:08
Speaker 3: Random texter says Farber strikes me as the guy that would karaoke at a wedding.
00:37:15
Speaker 2: Absolutely. No arguments here.
00:37:18
Speaker 7: No arguments.
00:37:19
Speaker 4: At some point in life, Farber has been a wedding singer. I'm sure before broadcasting, maybe. He had a brief run as a wedding singer, I think.
00:37:27
Speaker 3: I can see that. I just get that sense. He gives off Sandler and wedding singer vibes. He does. This is a text from Coach Manson. It was a picture boat. We were talking earlier how people go from Halloween right to Christmas, start decorating, listening to music. They skip Thanksgiving, which is amazing. And I said
it's because they can't put inflatable turkeys out front. Well, Coach Manson has proved me wrong. He has a picture of his yard with a giant inflatable turkey. And the sign next to the turkey says, wait your turn.
00:37:56
Speaker 2: Fat boy.
00:37:59
Speaker 4: That is so damn good. That is so good, man. Richie, I hate to read these poems. I needed that alert system yesterday, about 3 p.m.
00:38:08
Speaker 2: Yesterday. Isn't that amazing?
00:38:09
Speaker 3: That alert system went off right when— Even the alert system hates Richie. Right when I was getting ready to read a snarky Richie text towards T-Bone.
00:38:16
Speaker 2: I guess I could still do it, though, unfortunately, for you, Bone.
00:38:18
Speaker 3: He says, Travis going to throw his back out trying to carry water for the dumb Hornets owners.
00:38:23
Speaker 2: Yeah, the guy you thought was Jeff Patterson about an hour ago.
00:38:25
Speaker 5: Wow.
00:38:26
Speaker 2: You want a guy fired, you can't get his name right. Oh, my goodness. UNC Tim has chimed in, too, Bone. All your friends.
00:38:33
Speaker 4: It's amazing how you just seem to find all these and collect them.
00:38:37
Speaker 2: It's crazy. Like a squirrel collected nuts. You're a squirrel nut collector. They are nuts, all right. I will say that on the text line.
00:38:44
Speaker 3: UNC Tim says, after thinking about it, it's almost disrespectful for T-Bone to expect us to believe the overdose was by accident. We all know he was trying to escape the reality of that crappy Duke performance.
00:38:57
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what it was. Hey, maybe you should try it, Tim, when you barely beat Wyoming. It'll help the games. By the way, Mac, if I was on the air yesterday, I would have been laughing.
00:39:08
Speaker 2: I was giggling at one point yesterday. I was watching a show. This is sad.
00:39:12
Speaker 4: I was watching a show on cruise ship murders and giggling while the show was on. Like, what is wrong with me? I'm like, I'm watching a true crime show on people getting murdered.
00:39:21
Speaker 2: You were all kind of laughing. What is wrong with me? This dude was baked like a potato, man. Seriously. This dude was feeling it, man.
00:39:30
Speaker 3: Um uh shout out to this texter 704 number y'all can we give some love to steph curry This dude went out there and stood up for his lady versus all those annoying podcasters wishing we could all be this good of husbands. We actually have the clip. I love this clip, Bone. We called out some of these guys, that doofus Shady McCoy that was offended that Steph's wife Aisha is in a movie and kisses a man in a movie.
00:39:56
Speaker 2: She's an actress, by the way. You goober, do you not know how acting works?
00:40:01
Speaker 3: But there were others, apparently like a bunch of the sports podcast industry. has this huge problem with Ayesha Curry doing a movie and kissing a man, which is just embarrassing. But listen to Steph cut a video and called these dudes out.
00:40:17
Speaker 8: I just wanted to check in right quick. I've been hearing a lot of noise, and usually the noise doesn't bother me, doesn't bother Ayesha. But this one in particular, when I'm trying to step on the accomplishments of my wife, and, you know, obviously... leading podcast tapings and topics and giving opinions on somebody else's wife. Nick, Gil, Emmanuel, and anybody else who feels the need to want to have to, you know, jump in and give an opinion, something you don't really know about, something that kind of speaks to a bigger conversation on how you view women in this world and what they're allowed and what they're not allowed to do. even the ignorance behind how acting works. Obviously, I tried to laugh this one off, but, you know, something needs to be said. And, you know, anytime Aisha Curry shows up in your headline, I, you know, kindly suggest you just give the, you know, the happy hands, the congratulations. And maybe, just maybe, The apology can be as loud as y'all leading y'all shows with this topic. So appreciate the free pub. Thank you for giving a nice shout-out to Second Chance Holiday, which y'all can find on Roku, starring Aisha Curry.
00:41:45
Speaker 2: Got a little plug for his wife's movie there.
00:41:49
Speaker 4: Sad that he even has to have that.
00:41:50
Speaker 3: Come on, say that. By the way, Nick Young apologized, but Gilbert Arenas wasn't apologizing. Of course not.
00:41:57
Speaker 2: Come on, man.
00:41:58
Speaker 3: That's the man's wife, for God's sakes. Just trying to have like her own career.
00:42:03
Speaker 2: We'll leave you with this, Max.
00:42:04
Speaker 4: Shout out to our guy, Justin, who once got high and couldn't find his way out of Harris Teeter.
00:42:11
Speaker 2: Oh, at least you weren't out at a store or something.
00:42:14
Speaker 3: NASCAR Mike is the fourth person to ask if you were so high that Murphy was talking to you.
00:42:19
Speaker 4: Oh, he's always talking. He got put in his crate so early because I couldn't stand up anymore, but you've got to go in here for a while.
00:42:27
Speaker 3: Murphy was so high, Bone imagined him turning to him and saying, What the hell.
00:42:32
Speaker 2: Was up with Duke last night, Bone? I saw Mabel at one point.
00:42:36
Speaker 3: Murphy turned to Bone and said, We don't have a legit go-to score this season.
00:42:44
Speaker 4: You're a Duke fan until they lose.
00:42:45
Speaker 2: I'm a Duke fan. Maybe they're going to turn it around. No, you're an ass. Tell Murphy they're going to turn it around. You're an ass is what you are.
00:42:51
Speaker 3: All right, we've got to get out of here. Someone wants Bone to get stoned and hit the Wegmans and.
00:42:56
Speaker 2: Make a video of it.
00:42:58
Speaker 3: That would be content. Hashtag content, baby. All right, we got to get out of here. Colin and Sean Sports Today is coming up next. Bone trying to lay off them dang gummies. We got a football Friday tomorrow. Make sure y'all tune in for it.