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Coffee with Kaylee Marine, let's increase our learning and obtain wise counsel.
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Grab your coffee and let's get started.
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Oh, do you hear that?
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That's wisdom calling.
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Let's answer that call.
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Coffee with Kaylee Marie, where there's a seat at the table for you, waiting.
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And coffee just the way you like it.
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Thanks for joining me.
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Today we're back around the table to have a conversation about Proverbs 4.
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Before we get started, just a little note.
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You may hear my security system keeping a close watch in the background.
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His name is Teddy, and he's a very handsome Labador whom I love dearly.
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So if you happen to hear him, just know he's doing his job.
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It's all a part of gathering around the table together.
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Now, let's dive into our conversation.
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Hello, this is Kaylee Marie, and today we are going to be discussing Proverbs 4.
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Listen, my sons, to a father's instruction.
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Pay attention to gain understanding.
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Today I have my father with me to discuss Proverbs 4.
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He is a jack of all trades.
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And he would say a master of none, but I would say a few.
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So thank you for joining me, Dad.
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Thanks.
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I do try to be a master when I do something, but I don't always succeed.
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Succeeding in everything is probably never an accomplishment because too many times in life we have failures and we need to learn from our failures.
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And sometimes the father's failures that he tries to pass on to his children so they can learn without having to do the same failure is the wisest thing a child can get from his father or his mother.
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Thank you, Dad.
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I appreciate that.
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I'm gonna read some scripture and then we will discuss it.
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And as we talked before the podcast, it says listen, my sons, but you can, for all of you daughters who are listening, you can put daughter in there.
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I am reading from the Tree of Life version.
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Listen, my sons, to a father's instruction.
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Pay attention to gain understanding.
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For I give you sound learning.
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Do not forsake my instruction.
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When I was a son to my father, tender and special to my mother, he taught me and said to me, Lay hold of my words in your heart.
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Keep my commandments, and you will live.
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Get wisdom, get understanding.
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Do not forget nor turn away from the words of my mouth.
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Do not forsake her, and she will guard you.
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Love her and she will watch over you.
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Wisdom is supreme.
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Acquire wisdom.
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With all your acquisitions, get understanding, prize her, and she will exalt you.
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She will honor you when you embrace her.
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She will set a garland of grace on your head.
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She will give you a crown of glory.
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Proverbs 4 1 through verse 9.
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And your first question.
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Probably what jumps out to me uh in those verses is pretty much what I expect mentioned at the beginning, that a lot of the wisdom of the father comes from his years of experience.
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In these verses, he is asking his son and his daughter, or andor his daughter, to also listen closely to what his instructions are, that they don't have to go through, as I mentioned earlier, the same failures of life that we encounter, that he has encountered, and he's trying to pass the wisdom gained from those failures to the children, the son, the daughter.
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Sometimes learning is from someone else is harder than learning from your own failure and mistakes.
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And so it's you don't always want to listen to what other people tell you is to do or not to do.
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Children have a habit of when you tell them don't do this, they think for a moment and then they wait until they have the opportunity to try to do what they were told not to do rather than to listen to the don't do that.
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There are some things that are easier to learn for instance a mother telling a daughter in the kitchen, don't put your hand on a hot stove.
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But there's many other things that in life that the parents try to say and pass on the wisdom of by not doing those things, and the children end up going, eh, I think I go do that anyway.
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One good example is how many times did Moses and the prophets tell Israel, put away idolatry and worship the Lord God.
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He is one.
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And they would do that for a short time, and then they go, Oh, I'm gonna try this God over here.
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And that failure to listen to instruction caused great pain and agony and destruction in most
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It talks about wisdom is supreme, acquire wisdom with all your acquisitions, get understanding.
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So, how have you, with all of your acquisitions, obtained understanding?
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Okay, when I read Proverbs and it talks about wisdom, knowledge, and understanding, sometimes you have to stop and I stop and think about those, the order that the verses sometimes quote those things in.
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The knowledge is something that we all have to gain through studying scripture or whatever subject we're working with in our life.
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But understanding has to, understanding that knowledge has to be acquired, and then we have to apply the wisdom of that understanding, of that knowledge, so that when we do something, we accomplish it at the right time within the right context that we excuse me, applies that wisdom and knowledge, that knowledge and that understanding.
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She will set a garland of grace on your head, she will give you a crown of glory, and I that automatically puts me back to Proverbs chapter one, where it says, Hear, my son, your father's instruction, and forsake not your mother's teaching, for they are a garland of grace for your head and a chain to adorn your neck.
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Another reading of that verse nine describes it rather as a than a garland as an ornament and in the crown of glory.
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I think a child's obedience of parents and listening to the wisdom that parents try to impart to their children is what those actions that the child takes, honoring the parent by obeying the parent, is what provides that garland of grace and that crown of glory.
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And that crown of glory and garland of grace is given to the parents through the honoring and obedience of the knowledge, understanding, and wisdom that the parents try to impart to the children.
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I like the word that uh you use there, try, because you are trying, and the child does have to make a decision of accepting it.
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And they may have, even as adults, have a hard time listening to their parents.
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Hopefully, some of us have grown wiser and understand that our parents have more wisdom than we do in giving instruction and helping out with certain situations, whether it be with something that's going on with work or it just in general in life.
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Yes, I think that there is nobody on earth that is perfect except Yeshua, who walked on earth 2,000 years ago, and we sometimes fail to recognize imperfections that are in impair that are in everybody's personality and character.
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And it takes time and wisdom of applying knowledge and understanding to correct many things that are come up wrong.
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And nobody's perfect.
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So that's why I use the word parents that try, because not every parent is a perfect parent, and every single action that they take with their children.
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And that's unfortunate.
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We don't we like to think we did everything we could, but we did everything, we tried to do everything that we understood to impart good wisdom to our children to help them through every situation in their life as they mature and grow.
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You do the best that you can, but I'm coming as the the kid hear the daughter saying that you have a choice.
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I mean, your parents are doing the absolutely best that they know with what they've been given, and you have a choice to make.
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Yeah, the the option of of choices is not only with the children to obey or not to obey or to try something different than what is given as instruction, but it's the choices for the parents of how it is wisdom is given and an instruction is given to help the child gain the understanding and the wisdom of how to use that knowledge and understanding.
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So there there is choices on both ends, both sides, and there will always be choices between two people interacting with each other, and how we the choices we make in our interaction with everybody.
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And in this case, this whole chapter talks about, I think, the interaction between children and parents is what will build our character for our life as we grow older.
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Yes, and because it also talks about in that scripture to lay hold of my words in your heart and keep my commands and you will live.
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And of course, it's talking about the Torah here, if I'm correct.
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I agree.
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He's written the Torah's been written so that we can live.
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Keep my commandments and you will live.
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All of the commandments, the ones that we are able to keep, because not all of them are applicable at this time, like giving sacrifices, for instance.
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I'm not a Levite.
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Right.
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And so, but they will help you live.
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Proverbs 4, verse 10.
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Listen, my son, and accept my words, so the years of your life will be many.
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I instructed you in the way of wisdom, I have guided you along straight paths.
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When you walk, your step will not be hindered, and when you run, you will not stumble.
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Hold on tightly to instruction.
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Do not let it go.
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Guard it, for it is your life.
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Do not enter the path of the wicked or walk in the way of evil people.
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Avoid it, do not travel on it.
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Turn away from it and pass by, for they cannot sleep until they do evil.
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They are robbed of sleep until they make someone fall.
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For they eat the bread of wickedness and drink the wine of violence.
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The path of the righteous is like the light of dawn, shining brighter and brighter until the full day.
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The way of the wicked is like darkness.
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They do not know what makes them some stumble.
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My son, pay attention to my words, incline your ear to my sayings.
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Do not let them out of your sight, keep them within your heart.
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Let's go on those verses because there is a slight break in what it's talking about there.
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And when we we talked about the wisdom, knowledge, and understanding of parents that is acquired through years of life.
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And now it's describing what can become of a child's life when those words are applied, that instruction is applied or not implied, the wisdom of the years of the parent.
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And again, always understand what I that I recognize that never are there any perfect parents or perfect children.
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And when you recognize that and use that as the lens that you evaluate instructions of parents and actions of children, you're going to get a more accurate understanding of what has been relayed back and forth.
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And this portion talks about when you do the when a child does and uses the knowledge and understanding wisely, these are the things that can happen or not happen depending about their choices that we mentioned earlier.
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To make the correct choice, you can have the negative things come up in your life and have a negative side of life.
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You can have recognize what causes you to stumble in life, and then you can begin to improve and start to have a better life in everything you do.
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And the if you guard your heart diligently, the sp flow that comes from it will be like springs of life, is what the verse in 23 says.
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And it's that springs of life that you want to gain from the instruction of your parents.
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And so the choices you make, you're either gonna follow the wrong one and be in darkness, or follow the right ones and be in a light, bright light of dawn in a brighter full day.
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You either know what's makes you stumble, or you fail to see what makes you stumble.
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It's appearing to me this whole chapter
is trying to show the results of the commandment to obey your parents in the Lord.
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And that even that first commandment says that your days may be long.
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And this particular chapter seems to be showing that doing that is gonna make your days and your life long.
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Or it's gonna be make your life miserable, which you don't want, right?
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Right.
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Well, I know you mentioned verse 23, and we left off at 20.
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But let's pick up from there because it does give the benefits might be the correct word.
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How about results?
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The results positive results.
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Positive results.
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So verse 21.
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Do not let them out of your sight, keep them within your heart, for they are life to those who find them, and health to their whole body.
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Guard your heart diligently, for from it flow the spring of springs of life.
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Put away perversity from your mouth, and keep devious lips far from you.
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Let your eyes look directly ahead and fix your gaze straight in front of you.
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Clear a level path for your feet, so all your ways will be firm.
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Do not turn to the right or to the left.
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Divert your foot from evil.
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That's exactly what it's describing in my mind walking that straight and narrow path that will be straight in front of you.
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It will be firm, and you don't need to be turning to the right or the left off of that path so that you don't divert your life to evil and wickedness.
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That is good.
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When it talks about, for they are life to those who find them in health to their whole body.
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A lot of scripture talks about cleanliness, and it's important to clean.
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I know my mom has taught me to clean, and the importance of it, it definitely helps with your health to clean.
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Yeah, but children that eat dirt build their immune system, don't they?
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I don't know.
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I'm not a doctor, but it is important to maintain cleanliness.
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Um, and the Torah talks about that.
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I don't know what more words one could add to what this chapter talks about and describes obedience to your parents, honoring your parents, the positive and negative effects that can come as a result of obeying that commandment in Torah.
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Thank you, Dad, for joining me for this conversation on Proverbs chapter four.
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I know this was a short conversation on that chapter, but sometimes a conversation need doesn't need to be long to be beneficial, and it doesn't need to be long to be instruction.
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Very true.
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Well, I'll end with asking you this how do you like your coffee, Dad?
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Thanks for listening to Coffee with Kaylee Marie.
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