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00:04:04.669 --> 00:04:05.090 for sure. 70 00:04:05.110 --> 00:04:06.090 Yeah. 71 00:04:06.169 --> 00:04:11.150 I mean, look, President Trump is facing, and you saw this, 72 00:04:11.370 --> 00:04:13.610 and later in the show I talk about the 60 73 00:04:13.610 --> 00:04:19.319 Minutes interview. He seems tired. He seems disappointed. And he 74 00:04:19.399 --> 00:04:22.920 seems to have a sense of, I don't know what 75 00:04:22.939 --> 00:04:25.279 we would call it. He's just fully aware of what 76 00:04:25.319 --> 00:04:26.860 he's about to deal with. He's dealt with it before. 77 00:04:26.920 --> 00:04:30.220 He remembers 2016. He remembers the impeachments. He remembers the 78 00:04:30.259 --> 00:04:33.680 investigation and the subpoenas. Trump remembers all of this. And 79 00:04:33.699 --> 00:04:35.600 I think he's looking at the next two years and 80 00:04:35.620 --> 00:04:37.860 he's hoping, THE PRESIDENT WANTS TO MAKE A DEAL. THE 81 00:04:37.899 --> 00:04:40.120 PRESIDENT WANTS TO MAKE A DEAL. THE PRESIDENT WANTS TO 82 00:04:40.139 --> 00:04:41.550 MAKE A DEAL. THE PRESIDENT WANTS TO MAKE A DEAL. 83 00:04:41.569 --> 00:04:43.350 THE PRESIDENT WANTS TO MAKE A DEAL. THE PRESIDENT WANTS 84 00:04:43.370 --> 00:04:44.790 TO MAKE A DEAL. THE PRESIDENT WANTS TO MAKE A DEAL. 85 00:04:45.149 --> 00:04:46.990 THE PRESIDENT WANTS TO MAKE A DEAL. THE PRESIDENT WANTS 86 00:04:47.009 --> 00:04:55.300 TO MAKE A DEAL. You have Hakeem Jeffries, Chuck Schumer 87 00:04:55.639 --> 00:04:57.639 and all these people who are making all these threats. 88 00:04:57.980 --> 00:04:59.639 Do you want to go to war or do you 89 00:04:59.660 --> 00:05:01.300 want to make a deal? And I think that's what 90 00:05:01.360 --> 00:05:03.810 this is. This really is. I don't think it's, you know, Susie. 91 00:05:04.069 --> 00:05:06.829 Susie Wiles was she's the political arm, right? She's the 92 00:05:06.870 --> 00:05:09.410 political mind. She was there to deal with a Republican 93 00:05:09.449 --> 00:05:12.050 House and Senate. Stephen Miller's there to deal with the Democrats. 94 00:05:12.069 --> 00:05:13.199 That's my take on this. What about you? 95 00:05:14.579 --> 00:05:17.079 Well, Steve, I think, Steve, I'm sorry, David. 96 00:05:17.110 --> 00:05:19.930 Call me Chief of Staff, David Pollack, Stephen Miller, whatever. 97 00:05:20.290 --> 00:05:21.189 Stephen Miller, I know. 98 00:05:21.230 --> 00:05:25.410 I'm like, I was going to say Stephen. Well, listen, 99 00:05:25.470 --> 00:05:26.069 here's the thing. 100 00:05:27.149 --> 00:05:27.629 You know what? 101 00:05:27.850 --> 00:05:30.689 This is a reason, one of the reasons we lost 102 00:05:30.769 --> 00:05:34.009 and lost majorly, obviously, throughout the country is because people 103 00:05:34.050 --> 00:05:37.060 felt like there wasn't accountability. in this administration. They felt 104 00:05:37.079 --> 00:05:39.959 like the America First policies were not being advanced. They 105 00:05:39.980 --> 00:05:42.480 felt that Congress obviously wasn't doing their job, right? And 106 00:05:42.560 --> 00:05:45.839 so right now it's not so much about, oh, let's 107 00:05:45.879 --> 00:05:49.220 make a deal. People, America First doesn't want deals. They 108 00:05:49.259 --> 00:05:52.500 want you to carry out what we initially voted for 109 00:05:52.779 --> 00:05:55.680 President Trump to be in this office. And that's why 110 00:05:55.720 --> 00:05:58.089 he's bringing in Stephen Miller to, so that he can 111 00:05:58.110 --> 00:06:00.810 get this, his agenda, you know, obviously, yes, we're going 112 00:06:00.829 --> 00:06:02.689 to get blocked because we're, we're going to have to 113 00:06:02.730 --> 00:06:06.579 deal with Democrats now. I mean, it's a fact. I mean, 114 00:06:06.620 --> 00:06:07.639 this is what we're going to have to deal with, 115 00:06:08.000 --> 00:06:11.079 but you know what? Listen, I, I don't know what 116 00:06:11.110 --> 00:06:14.170 to expect, but I do know that President Trump is 117 00:06:14.389 --> 00:06:17.089 used to— he' s a fighter. David, you know that. 118 00:06:17.310 --> 00:06:20.259 I know that. This is not his first rodeo. 119 00:06:20.339 --> 00:06:22.199 He knows exactly what he's going to step into, and 120 00:06:22.220 --> 00:06:25.139 he's going to have to build a little army of 121 00:06:25.199 --> 00:06:28.430 America First people that are going to champion him. for 122 00:06:28.550 --> 00:06:31.269 him and hold the fort and hold the line down 123 00:06:31.329 --> 00:06:33.589 here from the White House. And that's what he's going 124 00:06:33.610 --> 00:06:35.420 to do. He's going to start putting in his loyal 125 00:06:35.449 --> 00:06:38.800 people that understand and have been with him since the 126 00:06:38.819 --> 00:06:42.680 beginning in 2016. and understand when he said, make America 127 00:06:42.720 --> 00:06:45.220 great again, what that really looked like. And he's got, 128 00:06:45.360 --> 00:06:46.759 you know, there's no one better. 129 00:06:46.839 --> 00:06:47.279 I've said this. 130 00:06:47.980 --> 00:06:52.199 President Trump is the, he is the master at messaging. 131 00:06:52.779 --> 00:06:56.129 And he knows how to win. He knows how to win, David. 132 00:06:56.430 --> 00:06:58.209 And I think he is a fighter. 133 00:06:58.689 --> 00:07:03.220 And listen, for me, my personal advice to him is, 134 00:07:03.889 --> 00:07:07.810 Don't cower down. Don't bend the knee and keep marching forward. 135 00:07:07.870 --> 00:07:10.550 And if there's anyone that can turn this ship around, 136 00:07:10.689 --> 00:07:11.250 it's him. 137 00:07:11.829 --> 00:07:13.639 Don't give up. Keep moving forward. 138 00:07:13.800 --> 00:07:17.180 Keep doing what the people of this country elected you 139 00:07:17.300 --> 00:07:19.740 to do. And you know what, David, you said something 140 00:07:19.779 --> 00:07:20.879 about that he was tired. 141 00:07:21.259 --> 00:07:23.879 He should be. He was out campaigning 30

days. 142 00:07:23.939 --> 00:07:25.839 He's 80 years old and he's having to go clean 143 00:07:25.860 --> 00:07:28.199 up the mess of the Republican leadership that couldn't get 144 00:07:28.259 --> 00:07:31.779 things done. He went to go advocate across this whole country. 145 00:07:32.060 --> 00:07:34.579 Of course, he's tired. He's having to deal with foreign people. 146 00:07:34.879 --> 00:07:37.079 He's having to deal with domestic people. He's having to 147 00:07:37.120 --> 00:07:39.019 deal with both sides of the party. He's having to 148 00:07:39.060 --> 00:07:41.290 deal with the White House. I mean, he's still running 149 00:07:41.319 --> 00:07:43.730 a country. And then you're having to go campaign 30 days. 150 00:07:43.810 --> 00:07:47.269 Of course, this was long days, day in, day out. 151 00:07:48.009 --> 00:07:50.930 He needs some rest. Look, go play some golf if 152 00:07:50.949 --> 00:07:53.189 you need to. But you know what? 153 00:07:53.209 --> 00:07:53.850 Get back to work. 154 00:07:53.889 --> 00:07:55.589 You've got the right person in right now. 155 00:07:55.649 --> 00:07:59.050 Let's see what Stephen Miller does. And We're hopeful. 156 00:07:59.189 --> 00:08:03.009 As America First people, MAGA movement, we are very hopeful 157 00:08:03.069 --> 00:08:05.870 that he is going to do some wonderful things. 158 00:08:06.189 --> 00:08:06.350 Yeah. 159 00:08:06.569 --> 00:08:10.899 No, listen, I still, I will always stand by President 160 00:08:10.920 --> 00:08:15.180 Trump from 2015 to now. It's not a political position 161 00:08:15.220 --> 00:08:18.379 for me. It's one of not only respect, but also 162 00:08:18.680 --> 00:08:20.500 the fact that in my entire lifetime, there has been 163 00:08:20.600 --> 00:08:23.040 one president that I felt like got it. And I 164 00:08:23.079 --> 00:08:26.310 think President Trump still understands everything. I think I think 165 00:08:26.350 --> 00:08:29.050 Stephen Miller proves putting him in that position proves that 166 00:08:29.069 --> 00:08:32.570 he understands what his base wants. We'll see where it 167 00:08:32.590 --> 00:08:34.750 goes from here. Politically, we have a lot to talk about. 168 00:08:34.769 --> 00:08:36.509 I have to have you back because we are going 169 00:08:36.529 --> 00:08:39.059 to figure out, you know, which voices move up in 170 00:08:39.080 --> 00:08:41.120 the in the movement, who gets the nomination, what this 171 00:08:41.159 --> 00:08:43.700 says about the party. There's a lot to talk about 172 00:08:43.720 --> 00:08:45.559 in the next couple of years. 173 00:08:45.639 --> 00:08:49.019 We've got 50 days for him to get this Congress 174 00:08:49.059 --> 00:08:50.120 fired up. 175 00:08:50.139 --> 00:08:50.500 You know what? 176 00:08:50.899 --> 00:08:52.860 They shouldn't go to work. They need to get to work. 177 00:08:52.899 --> 00:08:55.360 They shouldn't be having vacation. They already had two months 178 00:08:55.379 --> 00:08:56.970 of vacation and they lost. They need to get to 179 00:08:57.000 --> 00:08:59.389 work and go through it. It's the lamest lame duck 180 00:08:59.629 --> 00:09:01.809 Congress in history. I'm going to talk to you again 181 00:09:01.830 --> 00:09:02.210 real soon. 182 00:09:02.250 --> 00:09:03.309 Thank you so much for being here. 183 00:09:03.909 --> 00:09:05.110 Thanks so much. Have a great week. 184 00:09:05.269 --> 00:09:05.480 You too. 185 00:09:07.250 --> 00:09:10.710 Still ahead, Secretary Rubio says the Iran war wasn't popular, 186 00:09:11.370 --> 00:09:14.169 but it was necessary. I agree. Vice President Vance says 187 00:09:14.190 --> 00:09:17.169 it might have cost him the midterms. So was it 188 00:09:17.250 --> 00:09:20.929 worth it? Then a massacre in Krakow while Poland's president 189 00:09:20.950 --> 00:09:23.649 accuses the prime minister of a forcible takeover of their 190 00:09:23.700 --> 00:09:27.559 top court. Is this politically motivated? Who's responsible? And later, 191 00:09:27.899 --> 00:09:30.279 Trump on 60 Minutes, what he actually said after the 192 00:09:30.320 --> 00:09:33.240 midterms and what he won't apologize for. All that's coming up. 193 00:09:33.279 --> 00:09:33.779 Don't go anywhere. 194 00:09:41.889 --> 00:09:43.710 For all of our viewers out there asking where to 195 00:09:43.750 --> 00:09:46.429 watch One America News, we'd like to introduce you to 196 00:09:46.620 --> 00:09:49.299 OAN Live. OAN Live is the best way to stay 197 00:09:49.399 --> 00:09:51.559 up to date on the hardest hitting news and our 198 00:09:51.580 --> 00:09:54.179 talk shows. And the best part is OAN Live is 199 00:09:54.220 --> 00:09:59.029 only $ 4. 99 per month. Credible, honest, and unbiased reporting at 200 00:09:59.070 --> 00:10:01.480 a fraction of the cost of cable. So just click 201 00:10:01.529 --> 00:10:04.960 on the link at the top of our homepage, oann.com, 202 00:10:05.000 --> 00:10:07.820 to easily sign up for the news and conservative talk 203 00:10:08.000 --> 00:10:09.259 you can't get anywhere else. 204 00:10:18.879 --> 00:10:23.940 With the midterms over, the blame game continues. Some blame Trump, 205 00:10:24.419 --> 00:10:29.539 some blame the economy. Vice President blamed Iran. Secretary of 206 00:10:29.559 --> 00:10:32.100 State Marco Rubio is making the case that the Iran 207 00:10:32.159 --> 00:10:37.039 war was worth fighting for days after voters made their 208 00:10:37.080 --> 00:10:40.879 feelings known at the ballot box. Speaking Sunday before heading 209 00:10:41.000 --> 00:10:44.850 to the G7 in Paris, Rubio said President Trump was 210 00:10:44.909 --> 00:10:47.840 confronting a threat that demanded action. 211 00:10:47.879 --> 00:10:48.059 Look. 212 00:10:48.440 --> 00:10:49.779 Well, I'm not going to comment on the war. 213 00:10:50.000 --> 00:10:52.080 I'm sorry, on the elections, which is what you're asking 214 00:10:52.100 --> 00:10:53.379 me about. All I can tell you is that the 215 00:10:53.419 -->

00:10:55.919 president of the United States identified a very real threat 216 00:10:55.960 --> 00:10:58.320 to this country that's existed for a very long period 217 00:10:58.340 --> 00:10:59.340 of time, and. 218 00:10:59.279 --> 00:10:59.820 He addressed it. 219 00:11:00.370 --> 00:11:03.149 And he addressed it, even though oftentimes the right thing 220 00:11:03.190 --> 00:11:06.490 to do for the country, confronting difficult challenges for the security. 221 00:11:06.169 --> 00:11:08.389 Of our country, doing it isn't necessarily. 222 00:11:08.809 --> 00:11:10.490 popular, but necessary. 223 00:11:10.889 --> 00:11:12.120 At the end of the day, I think we can 224 00:11:12.149 --> 00:11:14.919 all agree, I think there's bipartisan, I would hope there's bipartisan, 225 00:11:14.940 --> 00:11:19.340 maybe not anymore, but there used to be bipartisan acknowledgement 226 00:11:19.799 --> 00:11:22.779 that a nuclear Iran would be completely unacceptable and dangerous 227 00:11:22.799 --> 00:11:23.600 for the United States. 228 00:11:24.120 --> 00:11:27.539 Rubio's core argument is nuclear. The IAEA says Iran holds 229 00:11:27.590 --> 00:11:32.750 about 972 pounds of uranium and rich to 60%. short 230 00:11:32.769 --> 00:11:35.149 technical step from weapons grade. We talked about that on 231 00:11:35.190 --> 00:11:39.289 the show. Iran says its program is peaceful. Of course, 232 00:11:39.549 --> 00:11:42.090 everybody wants to feel like they're at peace when they 233 00:11:42.110 --> 00:11:45.370 create nuclear weapons. But the cost, it's hard to ignore. 234 00:11:45.409 --> 00:11:47.490 The war is now more than eight months old. It 235 00:11:47.529 --> 00:11:50.269 has disrupted the straightforward moves where one fifth of the 236 00:11:50.309 --> 00:11:53.250 world's oil moved before the conflict. Higher energy prices helped 237 00:11:53.269 --> 00:11:57.570 Democrats take Congress last week. Vice President J.D. Vance, he 238 00:11:57.610 --> 00:12:01.350 was blunt. He said the reason we lost was the war, 239 00:12:01.470 --> 00:12:05.440 plain and simple. Pollsters identified four things voters turned on 240 00:12:05.480 --> 00:12:09.120 in the Republican Party, putting America first, the country's relationship 241 00:12:09.139 --> 00:12:14.529 with Israel, the economy, and ending the war in Iran. Now, 242 00:12:14.539 --> 00:12:17.980 there's some controversy about that post. Some suggest that he 243 00:12:18.019 --> 00:12:22.480 went behind President Trump's back-to-post. The president denied that. President 244 00:12:22.500 --> 00:12:28.950 called Vance's assessment largely true. But he isn't backing off. 245 00:12:29.909 --> 00:12:32.750 That's the split. Rubio's defending the war, and Vance is 246 00:12:33.169 --> 00:12:36.690 blaming it, of course, coming as both are being eyed 247 00:12:36.730 --> 00:12:42.700 for presidential runs in 2028. Now, Republican dissent, it's not new. 248 00:12:42.799 --> 00:12:46.720 Four GOP senators, Rand Paul, Susan Collins, Lisa Murkowski, Bill Cassidy, 249 00:12:46.759 --> 00:12:50.019 voted for a war powers resolution in the summer. In 250 00:12:50.039 --> 00:12:53.019 the House, Thomas Massey has backed every one, and former 251 00:12:53.039 --> 00:12:57.139 congressman Marjorie Taylor Greene called the war Trump's biggest betrayal. 252 00:12:57.820 --> 00:13:02.149 So how does it end? Rubio says not soon. He 253 00:13:02.169 --> 00:13:05.870 called Iran's demands outrageous and ridiculous. Tehran wants the U.S. 254 00:13:05.909 --> 00:13:10.419 blockade lifted, sanctions eased, assets unfrozen, and compensation for war damage. 255 00:13:10.440 --> 00:13:14.840 Trump told CNN renewed strikes are highly unlikely if talks progress, 256 00:13:14.879 --> 00:13:18.460 but only if signs are very strong for an agreement. 257 00:13:18.500 --> 00:13:21.620 He also named targets, including 38 bridges, if fighting resumes. 258 00:13:22.279 --> 00:13:24.379 Oil prices fell sharply last week. A lot of people 259 00:13:24.399 --> 00:13:27.320 thought it was kind of suspicious, considering the timing. Nothing 260 00:13:27.360 --> 00:13:30.440 changed with the war. But analysts say that reflects hopes 261 00:13:30.460 --> 00:13:33.740 for a deal, not evidence of one. Trump meets Qatar's 262 00:13:33.779 --> 00:13:36.259 prime minister Monday, and the mediators are still working on 263 00:13:36.299 --> 00:13:39.000 a path to a ceasefire. For now, the administration says 264 00:13:39.019 --> 00:13:41.909 the war was necessary. The question is whether the public 265 00:13:41.950 --> 00:13:46.370 and Republicans facing 2028 can continue to agree. Joining me 266 00:13:46.409 --> 00:13:50.710 now is Azam Al-Ghabra, former senior advisor for public affairs 267 00:13:50.750 --> 00:13:53.960 at the State Department's Bureau of Near Eastern Affairs, also 268 00:13:54.039 --> 00:13:56.840 founder and president of Frontiers Consultants. 269 00:13:56.879 --> 00:13:57.100 Azam. 270 00:13:57.559 --> 00:14:00.940 Welcome back, David Pollak, Prime Time. Look, I believe— I have 271 00:14:00.980 --> 00:14:04.019 believed that the war was necessary. I believe what the 272 00:14:04.070 --> 00:14:07.049 president says about Iran's ability to enrich uranium, the possession 273 00:14:07.110 --> 00:14:09.429 of that enriched uranium, the threat it posed to building 274 00:14:09.450 --> 00:14:11.750 a weapon of some sort. I think the president made 275 00:14:11.769 --> 00:14:16.299 a bold decision for America, not necessarily a bold decision politically. 276 00:14:16.750 --> 00:14:19.789 I think J.D. Vance's post was somewhat correct, but I 277 00:14:19.830 --> 00:14:22.149 think there was more factors that went in besides just 278 00:14:22.250 --> 00:14:24.350 the Iran war and the support of Israel. I don't 279 00:14:24.389 --> 00:14:26.490 think a lot of people broke because of that. Hizam, 280 00:14:26.570 --> 00:14:28.929 I'm turning it over to you. Regarding the war, its 281

00:14:29.000 --> 00:14:31.379 outcome on the election, and where it goes forward, what's 282 00:14:31.399 --> 00:14:31.929 your take on it? 283 00:14:33.620 --> 00:14:36.620 Thank you, David, for having me. So for myself and 284 00:14:36.759 --> 00:14:40.200 for you, this makes sense, right? Because you and I 285 00:14:40.360 --> 00:14:43.950 are part-time Iran watchers. We've been watching Iran. We've been 286 00:14:44.470 --> 00:14:47.450 paying attention. We've been following the developments, how they've been 287 00:14:47.490 --> 00:14:51.610 developing a nuclear weapon nonstop, even including what's supposed to 288 00:14:51.669 --> 00:14:56.450 be a stop to their project and following the JCPOA. 289 00:14:56.470 --> 00:14:59.669 They never stopped. But the average voter does not know. 290 00:15:00.320 --> 00:15:03.460 You and I know because we spend time learning about 291 00:15:03.500 --> 00:15:06.399 it and following it. But the average voter does not. 292 00:15:07.120 --> 00:15:10.000 And here lies the problem. The White House problem has 293 00:15:10.039 --> 00:15:13.419 been You know, somewhat in 45, but definitely in 47, 294 00:15:13.419 --> 00:15:17.899 a communication issue. The average American is not aware of 295 00:15:17.940 --> 00:15:21.600 what's happening or why. And I think if there was 296 00:15:21.639 --> 00:15:25.490 a plan, even if the plan changes, listen, no battle 297 00:15:25.529 --> 00:15:27.850 plan survives first contact. 298 00:15:27.909 --> 00:15:28.409 We know this. 299 00:15:28.950 --> 00:15:31.909 But if there were constant updates, clarity with the voters, 300 00:15:31.950 --> 00:15:36.779 clarity with the people, things would have gone a lot better. 301 00:15:37.440 --> 00:15:39.299 And we have a plan right now, but nobody knows 302 00:15:39.340 --> 00:15:43.820 the plan. We are dismantling Iran's economy piece by piece. 303 00:15:44.220 --> 00:15:46.840 They haven't exported a barrel of oil over the past 304 00:15:46.860 --> 00:15:51.259 three months. Their currency, the rial, is in freefall. I mean, 305 00:15:51.299 --> 00:15:55.500 since I think a dollar used to be 400,000 rials 306 00:15:55.580 --> 00:16:02.350 when President Trump took office, now it's closer to 3 million, 307 00:16:02.350 --> 00:16:04.970 3 million and some, if you find U.S. dollars in 308 00:16:05.110 --> 00:16:10.110 the Iranian market. There is a plan. Things are going well. 309 00:16:10.360 --> 00:16:14.200 But unfortunately, the White House is really bad at communicating it. 310 00:16:14.720 --> 00:16:17.830 They need somebody like you, David. Honestly, I mean... Maybe 311 00:16:17.870 --> 00:16:20.470 a David Pollack and Dana White team may not be 312 00:16:20.529 --> 00:16:21.070 a bad idea. 313 00:16:22.009 --> 00:16:25.309 I wasn't listed in the slate with Dana White, but maybe. Look, 314 00:16:25.950 --> 00:16:29.720 I love my job here at OAN, and the president 315 00:16:29.740 --> 00:16:32.220 can watch me here, and also the

viewers, so we 316 00:16:32.259 --> 00:16:35.960 can all just kind of agree on a message together. But, yes, 317 00:16:36.340 --> 00:16:38.559 I agree with you. I think there are elements to 318 00:16:38.600 --> 00:16:41.840 this Iran war that the public needs. Doesn't fully know. 319 00:16:42.539 --> 00:16:44.879 I think there is a long-term plan. If it's regime 320 00:16:44.940 --> 00:16:49.279 change by Iranians' decision, that's a good thing, too, I believe. 321 00:16:49.330 --> 00:16:52.809 But you're right. There's a multifaceted effort here. I believe 322 00:16:52.850 --> 00:16:56.610 the media, Democrats, and even these America First folks, I 323 00:16:56.629 --> 00:16:59.909 don't—you know, as they call themselves, saying, oh, no new wars. 324 00:16:59.950 --> 00:17:01.570 This wasn't a new war. This is an old war 325 00:17:02.009 --> 00:17:04.769 that the president is ending. But the reality is the 326 00:17:04.789 --> 00:17:07.490 president did the bold thing. And this whole support for 327 00:17:07.609 --> 00:17:09.349 Israel thing and the fact that they say we only 328 00:17:09.390 --> 00:17:11.750 went to war for Israel, I think this is just 329 00:17:11.809 --> 00:17:14.430 such a fake— I don't even know where this whole thing 330 00:17:14.470 --> 00:17:17.140 came from. Because Israel's always been an ally in all 331 00:17:17.160 --> 00:17:20.779 of our operations in the Middle East, not just against Iran. Yes, 332 00:17:21.000 --> 00:17:22.839 we give them foreign aid. They buy our weapons with 333 00:17:22.859 --> 00:17:24.759 the foreign aid. And we give foreign aid to a 334 00:17:24.799 --> 00:17:27.240 lot of countries. I don't know why Israel's being singled out. 335 00:17:27.539 --> 00:17:30.259 I think for some reason this is a political play, 336 00:17:30.279 --> 00:17:33.269 but— That being said, I think what happened in Iran 337 00:17:33.309 --> 00:17:35.480 was necessary. So what do you think happens next? The 338 00:17:35.509 --> 00:17:39.809 House is changing. The Senate is changing. You've already seen J.D. 339 00:17:39.890 --> 00:17:43.849 Vance make his position clear. You've heard what Rubio said. 340 00:17:43.890 --> 00:17:46.490 So what happens next? I think the president sees this 341 00:17:46.529 --> 00:17:49.470 thing through. But as far as support for Israel, the 342 00:17:49.509 --> 00:17:52.549 outcome of Iran and all future operations like this, what 343 00:17:52.589 --> 00:17:53.390 do you think happens next? 344 00:17:54.609 --> 00:17:56.670 Well, let me start by saying nothing good ever came 345 00:17:56.789 --> 00:18:02.650 from a bunch of liberal freshmen joining Congress. Nothing good 346 00:18:02.730 --> 00:18:05.549 ever comes from that. So here's the thing. In the 347 00:18:05.609 --> 00:18:07.269 next few months, I mean, these guys are coming with 348 00:18:07.410 --> 00:18:10.890 pitchforks raised. They're going to try to fight the right, 349 00:18:11.140 --> 00:18:14.440 and they have to infight because now there is a 350 00:18:14.519 --> 00:18:19.099 spectrum and a divided spectrum. I mean, we saw like 351 00:18:19.180 --> 00:18:24.329 Al-Sayed versus Chuck Schumer started like hours after the elections. 352 00:18:24.750 --> 00:18:28.710 So I think the first few months are going to 353 00:18:28.769 --> 00:18:31.869 be pretty horrible on the Hill. We're going to watch 354 00:18:31.880 --> 00:18:35.349 a lot of investigations, a lot of subpoenas, a lot 355 00:18:35.390 --> 00:18:41.009 of hearings. Then I hope that these freshmen, these new 356 00:18:41.150 --> 00:18:44.390 members are going to figure out that they have to govern. 357 00:18:45.150 --> 00:18:48.390 So at least we'll get six to eight months of 358 00:18:48.829 --> 00:18:53.339 some form of governance and attempts at least to have 359 00:18:53.380 --> 00:18:56.660 a bipartisan agreement. Then we go into the 2028 election 360 00:18:56.700 --> 00:19:02.170 season and things go bad again. So hopefully, over the 361 00:19:02.190 --> 00:19:04.519 next three years, we'll get six to eight months of 362 00:19:05.380 --> 00:19:09.859 the governance the American people really need. And that is key. 363 00:19:11.039 --> 00:19:17.410 My apologies. So that's really, that's how I see it happening. Now, 364 00:19:17.470 --> 00:19:21.190 for the war, I don't think anything will change because, listen, 365 00:19:21.230 --> 00:19:24.740 these guys, they may be liberal, They may be leftists, 366 00:19:24.819 --> 00:19:27.700 but they're not idiots. They are not going to carry 367 00:19:27.740 --> 00:19:31.119 the weight of Iran getting a nuclear weapon. And I 368 00:19:31.180 --> 00:19:33.920 think once they see the intelligence, once they see what 369 00:19:34.000 --> 00:19:38.670 Iran is doing, they are not going to try to 370 00:19:38.730 --> 00:19:41.950 stop the war by any means necessary. That is going 371 00:19:41.990 --> 00:19:45.950 to be a long-term suicide for the Democrats. But at 372 00:19:45.990 --> 00:19:48.509 least that's what I foresee myself. 373 00:19:48.910 --> 00:19:52.569 Yeah, well, I, you know, I respect your opinion on it. 374 00:19:52.799 --> 00:19:55.960 I think the Democrats are willing to do whatever is 375 00:19:56.059 --> 00:19:58.779 necessary to hurt America so they can rebuild it in 376 00:19:58.799 --> 00:20:00.500 their own image. And I think they'll look at that 377 00:20:00.539 --> 00:20:03.289 intelligence and they'll make the wrong decision anyway, especially a 378 00:20:03.349 --> 00:20:06.069 Senator El-Said. But God forbid, I hope you're right, sir. 379 00:20:06.329 --> 00:20:08.190 I hope you're right. And they look at the threat 380 00:20:08.230 --> 00:20:11.509 that Iran posed and take it seriously. Hazem, I appreciate 381 00:20:11.529 --> 00:20:12.789 you being here so much. Let's have you on again 382 00:20:12.809 --> 00:20:14.829 real soon to keep us updated on all this. 383 00:20:16.119 --> 00:20:17.099 You know, appreciate it. 384

00:20:17.359 --> 00:20:22.670 Thank you. Coming up, a massacre in Krakow. Poland's president 385 00:20:22.710 --> 00:20:26.349 says the government just forcibly took over their constitutional court. 386 00:20:26.390 --> 00:20:29.869 The timing raises obvious questions about a political motive, as 387 00:20:29.910 --> 00:20:32.910 prosecutors say they're not sure yet. Was the attack in 388 00:20:32.950 --> 00:20:36.000 Poland politically motivated? We look into all of that right 389 00:20:36.039 --> 00:20:36.319 after this. 390 00:20:44.549 --> 00:20:46.369 For all of our viewers out there asking where to 391 00:20:46.410 --> 00:20:49.099 watch One America News, we'd like to introduce you to 392 00:20:49.259 --> 00:20:51.960 OAN Live. OAN Live is the best way to stay 393 00:20:52.059 --> 00:20:54.220 up to date on the hardest hitting news and our 394 00:20:54.240 --> 00:20:56.839 talk shows. And the best part is OAN Live is 395 00:20:56.880 --> 00:21:01.700 only $ 4. 99 per month. Credible, honest, and unbiased reporting at 396 00:21:01.720 --> 00:21:03.039 a fraction of the cost of cable. 397 00:21:03.619 --> 00:21:05.119 So just click on the link at the. 398 00:21:05.119 --> 00:21:08.900 Top of our homepage, OANN.com, to easily sign up for 399 00:21:08.920 --> 00:21:11.920 the news and conservative talk you can't get anywhere else. 400 00:21:20.940 --> 00:21:25.509 Saturday in Krakow's main square, a 24-year-old named Mikel Oskinski 401 00:21:26.230 --> 00:21:31.430 from Oskrowik drove onto the square and opened fire with 402 00:21:31.470 --> 00:21:35.190 a semi-automatic rifle in Poland. This doesn't happen in Poland, guys. 403 00:21:36.529 --> 00:21:40.910 Six killed in the square, about 16 wounded, including two 404 00:21:41.069 --> 00:21:44.849 officers who stopped him. His parents and sister were found 405 00:21:44.869 --> 00:21:48.210 dead at home, nine dead in total. He died this 406 00:21:48.359 --> 00:21:51.720 morning in a hospital. Prosecutors are treating it as terrorism, 407 00:21:51.779 --> 00:21:57.049 deadliest attack of its kind in Poland since 1989. Look 408 00:21:57.069 --> 00:22:00.170 at the timing. It can't be ignored. This lands amid 409 00:22:00.230 --> 00:22:04.190 what Poland's own president called a forcible takeover. Days earlier, 410 00:22:04.269 --> 00:22:09.299 President Karol Nowacki cut short a trip to Africa after 411 00:22:09.339 --> 00:22:14.319 Prime Minister Donald Tusk moved into the constitutional tribunal, suspending 412 00:22:14.380 --> 00:22:20.759 its president. POLICE AT THE BUILDING, HIS JUDGES WALKED IN, 413 00:22:21.180 --> 00:22:24.509 NEVRODSKY'S STATEMENT OUTSIDE THAT COURT, A BREACH OF THE CONSTITUTIONAL 414 00:22:24.569 --> 00:22:28.509 ORDER AND A FORCABLE TAKEOVER OF THE CONSTITUTIONAL ORDER. TUSKSIDE, WELL, 415 00:22:28.529 --> 00:22:32.589 THEY CALL IT RESTORING THE RULE OF LAW. NEVRODSKY CALLED 416 00:22:32.670 --> 00:22:36.369 IT WHAT IT LOOKED LIKE. IT WAS A COUP. REGARDLESS, 417 00:22:36.470 --> 00:22:39.250 THE COINCIDENTAL TIMING OF ALL OF THIS SHOOTING, YOU CAN'T 418 00:22:39.289 --> 00:22:43.900 IGNORE IT. MANY ARE WONDERING, THERE'S POLITICAL MOTIVE HERE. INTERIOR MINISTER, 419 00:22:44.329 --> 00:22:51.609 Marcin Kerswinski initially suggested that the shooter was fascinated by far-right, 420 00:22:51.670 --> 00:22:55.950 ultra-nationalistic ideology. But on Sunday, he had to walk it back, 421 00:22:56.799 --> 00:23:02.519 called it a hypothesis. Meanwhile, circulating online, a few different influencers, 422 00:23:02.759 --> 00:23:08.400 including Joey Manorino, Jack Posobiec, Natasha Montreal, and Wokeness as well, 423 00:23:09.029 --> 00:23:12.160 They suggest he was a socialist extremist. Screenshots said to 424 00:23:12.200 --> 00:23:15.980 be from his Facebook before it vanished showed a rainbow flag, 425 00:23:16.680 --> 00:23:20.619 church mockery, a joke about the red light of communism. 426 00:23:21.500 --> 00:23:26.279 Manorino says he attended Poland's 2020 women's strike. Quoted an 427 00:23:26.299 --> 00:23:30.190 anonymous Krakow police source, says he may be an ultra-left 428 00:23:30.930 --> 00:23:34.630 or an ultra-leftist. Today, a prosecutor spokesman there said it's 429 00:23:34.769 --> 00:23:38.299 way too early. to know what the motivation of the 430 00:23:38.359 --> 00:23:42.200 shooter is. You can't say it was inspired by any 431 00:23:42.299 --> 00:23:48.009 ideology yet. But remember this. A massacre, a president accusing 432 00:23:48.049 --> 00:23:52.369 Tusk of forceful takeover, Poland's top court, a government that 433 00:23:52.410 --> 00:23:55.609 rushed to brand the killer far right, online influencers saying 434 00:23:55.650 --> 00:23:59.109 he was far left, prosecutors saying they don't know. You 435 00:23:59.150 --> 00:24:02.039 still have to wonder whether it was politically motivated. In 436 00:24:02.059 --> 00:24:05.539 that tribunal fight, still watching what's going to happen there. 437 00:24:05.970 --> 00:24:09.269 Can't draw any conclusions. But it's really interesting what's happening 438 00:24:09.289 --> 00:24:12.519 in Poland. The peace is definitely being broken. Joining me 439 00:24:12.559 --> 00:24:18.150 now is activist and humanitarian Vrwanica Rogowski. Welcome to David 440 00:24:18.170 --> 00:24:21.619 Pollak Prime Time. IT'S SO SAD TO SEE WHAT'S HAPPENING 441 00:24:21.650 --> 00:24:24.920 IN POLAND, NOT JUST DONALD TUSK'S ATTEMPTED COUP OF THE 442 00:24:25.019 --> 00:24:27.259 TRIBUNAL THERE, BUT THEN YOU SEE THIS TERROR ATTACK WAR 443 00:24:27.619 --> 00:24:31.599 SINCE ALMOST 1990. I KNOW EVERYBODY IS SUGGESTING THE SHOOTER 444 00:24:31.619 --> 00:24:33.640 WAS A LEFTIST, SOME IN THE GOVERNMENT ARE TRYING TO 445 00:24:33.660 --> 00:24:37.130 BLAME THE RIGHT. THE REALITY IS THE TIMING CAN'T BE IGNORED. 446 00:24:37.210 --> 00:24:39.089 AND WE HAVE TO ASK THE QUESTION, IS ALL OF 447 00:24:39.130 --> 00:24:41.769 THIS RELATED TO THIS, WHAT SEEMS TO BE A GLOBALIST

448 00:24:42.130 --> 00:24:43.890 PUSH TO GAIN CONTROL IN POLAND? 449 00:24:47.279 --> 00:24:52.670 Uh, the circumstances are questionable because we've been seeing protests 450 00:24:52.769 --> 00:24:58.650 of Polish conservatives and nationalists because prime minister Tusk breached 451 00:24:58.670 --> 00:24:59.730 the constitution. 452 00:24:59.789 --> 00:25:02.630 He broke the law. People fought for justice. 453 00:25:02.650 --> 00:25:05.000 There are thousands of people day and night by the 454 00:25:05.039 --> 00:25:07.200 constitutional tribunal here in Warsaw. 455 00:25:08.119 --> 00:25:11.019 And people were really, really motivated. 456 00:25:11.640 --> 00:25:16.339 To fight for justice, for democracy, because Prime Minister Tusk 457 00:25:16.519 --> 00:25:18.799 wanted to seize control. 458 00:25:18.359 --> 00:25:23.079 And influence violently by seizing those institutions. And what I 459 00:25:23.119 --> 00:25:24.940 mean by that is he wants to. 460 00:25:24.869 --> 00:25:29.450 Seize those institutions to pass laws that the European Union 461 00:25:29.490 --> 00:25:33.789 is pushing constantly, like the Migrant Pact, to allow a 462 00:25:33.829 --> 00:25:35.410 lot of illegal. 463 00:25:35.210 --> 00:25:38.150 Migrants from Germany, from France, that they would not really 464 00:25:38.190 --> 00:25:39.390 get rid of, to Poland. 465 00:25:40.039 --> 00:25:43.660 To transition into Euro currency. 466 00:25:43.200 --> 00:25:45.619 That is going to destroy Polish economy. They want to. 467 00:25:45.869 --> 00:25:48.549 Seize Polish gold reserves, et cetera, et cetera. 468 00:25:48.650 --> 00:25:53.630 And Polish prime minister Tusk is by their side and 469 00:25:54.630 --> 00:25:58.650 he's really promoting this agenda. And right now this horrible 470 00:25:58.869 --> 00:26:01.710 shooting is happening in Krakow at the same time. 471 00:26:02.859 --> 00:26:07.559 And automatically what they do is they label him as 472 00:26:08.299 --> 00:26:09.660 a far right winger. 473 00:26:10.630 --> 00:26:14.170 To basically portray conservatives. 474 00:26:14.710 --> 00:26:20.740 And the Polish right, generally speaking, as lunatics, as extremists, 475 00:26:20.940 --> 00:26:22.980 as people who are out of their mind, because this 476 00:26:23.039 --> 00:26:28.990 is just a suggestive strategy happening here. But this person 477 00:26:29.109 --> 00:26:32.670 who shot nine people total, including his own family, was 478 00:26:32.730 --> 00:26:33.569 mentally ill. 479 00:26:34.450 --> 00:26:40.920 He belonged in mental health institutions. So basically, first of all, 480 00:26:41.579 --> 00:26:46.000 he wasn't a right-winger. It was already debunked that he 481 00:26:46.059 --> 00:26:50.880 had LGBTQ flags, that he had transgender friends. 482 00:26:52.339 --> 00:26:55.920 He couldn't be a right-winger if. 483 00:26:55.940 --> 00:27:00.930 He was actually associated with those groups, LGBTQ or transgender people. 484 00:27:01.410 --> 00:27:05.089 And also he had connections with like liberal, like the 485 00:27:05.150 --> 00:27:09.359 leftist ideologies and groups. So like, What they are trying 486 00:27:09.400 --> 00:27:13.960 to do is use it as a political weapon to 487 00:27:14.000 --> 00:27:14.480 tell the. 488 00:27:14.420 --> 00:27:18.019 Public, listen, the election is coming. Those people are deranged, 489 00:27:19.420 --> 00:27:20.279 speaking the right. 490 00:27:20.640 --> 00:27:27.769 And that basically also those protesters by the constitutional tribunal 491 00:27:28.869 --> 00:27:29.809 contributed to. 492 00:27:29.730 --> 00:27:33.980 The whole horrible moods in Poland. So they want to 493 00:27:34.019 --> 00:27:35.000 blame us. 494 00:27:35.319 --> 00:27:38.880 They want to blame conservatives for someone who broke the law, 495 00:27:38.960 --> 00:27:40.869 who was prime minister's task. 496 00:27:42.569 --> 00:27:47.109 And he was the one who started the coup, which 497 00:27:47.589 --> 00:27:50.630 this is exactly what it was. And he expected. 498 00:27:50.170 --> 00:27:53.869 People to just surrender and say, this is right, do 499 00:27:53.910 --> 00:27:54.730 whatever you want. 500 00:27:55.519 --> 00:27:57.799 But Polish people are very rebellious. 501 00:27:57.880 --> 00:28:02.140 We are patriotic and we don't want to give our 502 00:28:02.200 --> 00:28:02.740 country away. 503 00:28:03.359 --> 00:28:03.940 That's the truth. 504 00:28:05.289 --> 00:28:09.470 I agree with you, Veronica. I mean, it is concerning 505 00:28:09.690 --> 00:28:13.740 because I think Poland is a shining example of how 506 00:28:13.779 --> 00:28:18.410 to do things correctly in Europe. RESTRICT MIGRATION, STAND UP 507 00:28:18.450 --> 00:28:22.619 TO THE EU, RESPECT CONSERVATIVISM AND ITS PEOPLE. IT'S A SAFE, 508 00:28:22.730 --> 00:28:25.500 BEAUTIFUL COUNTRY. YOU CAN GO TO THE CITIES ANY TIME 509 00:28:25.519 --> 00:28:27.880 OF THE DAY, ANY TIME AT NIGHT. YOU DON'T SEE 510 00:28:27.900 --> 00:28:32.079 THE HOMELESS. WOMEN FEEL SAFE. THE CITIES ARE NOT DISGUSTING. 511 00:28:32.539 --> 00:28:36.299 PEOPLE ARE KIND. IT IS THE PERFECT EUROPEAN NATION. BUT 512 00:28:36.319 --> 00:28:40.160 EU HATES THAT. THE WESTERN EUROPEANS HATE THAT BECAUSE HOW 513 00:28:40.220 --> 00:28:43.319 DARE POLAND NOT TAKE THE MIGRANTS THAT RUINED of places 514 00:28:43.339 --> 00:28:44.440 like France or Germany. 515 00:28:44.759 --> 00:28:49.940 They're very upset with how ideal, how perfect Poland is 516 00:28:49.960 --> 00:28:51.640 as a woman. 517 00:28:51.779 --> 00:28:53.059 And I recorded. 518 00:28:52.619 --> 00:28:55.369 Viral videos that I posted on social media about it, 519 00:28:55.390 --> 00:28:59.670 by the way, that women can run in the park 520 00:28:59.769 --> 00:29:04.470 or walk for seven, six kilometers alone at night. Nothing 521 00:29:04.529 --> 00:29:09.109 happens in Poland. and that everybody can feel safe. There 522 00:29:09.140 --> 00:29:11.970 are no robberies, nobody's attacking

anyone. There are no homeless people, 523 00:29:12.029 --> 00:29:13.950 no tents with illegal migrants. 524 00:29:14.769 --> 00:29:17.950 We are not invaded. We are like a safe zone. 525 00:29:18.650 --> 00:29:21.349 And we are nothing like the rest of Europe. It's 526 00:29:21.369 --> 00:29:22.890 like Germany, France, Spain. 527 00:29:22.930 --> 00:29:26.069 Those countries are entirely different. 528 00:29:28.490 --> 00:29:30.150 But they want to change it. They want to push 529 00:29:30.170 --> 00:29:34.299 the immigration pact. Because what the Migration Pact says. 530 00:29:34.119 --> 00:29:37.009 That those migrants are going to be moving around to 531 00:29:37.049 --> 00:29:39.849 other European countries, which is, for instance, Poland. 532 00:29:40.420 --> 00:29:42.599 So they already want changes. They want to change the currency. 533 00:29:42.619 --> 00:29:44.819 They want to go after Polish gold reserves. 534 00:29:45.259 --> 00:29:48.710 They see how they can actually benefit from Poland right now. 535 00:29:49.289 --> 00:29:50.450 And to give up. 536 00:29:50.849 --> 00:29:53.910 Also, they want us to give up our freedoms and 537 00:29:54.009 --> 00:29:57.670 our rights in a way, and to subscribe to this 538 00:29:57.710 --> 00:30:02.160 globalist agenda basically, but Poland stood. 539 00:30:01.940 --> 00:30:07.980 Strong, which was very not according to their plan. Um, 540 00:30:08.259 --> 00:30:12.539 and Polish prime minister, previous Polish prime prime. 541 00:30:12.380 --> 00:30:15.539 Minister was, uh, conservative. So he didn't allow it to happen. 542 00:30:15.599 --> 00:30:21.559 But right now task is submissive to the European mission. He, um, 543 00:30:21.880 --> 00:30:25.720 is representing his, he pledges allegiance to the European union. 544 00:30:25.980 --> 00:30:29.269 It's not to the Polish people. which has been obvious, 545 00:30:30.710 --> 00:30:33.930 and he's losing his ground too. So the election process 546 00:30:33.950 --> 00:30:39.029 for him, the re-election doesn't look that optimistic. So circumstances 547 00:30:39.890 --> 00:30:42.789 are very, very questionable of all that. 548 00:30:43.109 --> 00:30:44.230 Yeah. Say the least. 549 00:30:44.700 --> 00:30:45.240 Say the least. 550 00:30:45.440 --> 00:30:47.579 Well, and you're right, Veronica. And this is the thing 551 00:30:47.599 --> 00:30:49.160 we're going to have to watch for, because just like 552 00:30:49.180 --> 00:30:51.859 the United States is a target of the globalists and 553 00:30:51.900 --> 00:30:54.359 communists because we're allowed to be free. Donald Trump was 554 00:30:54.380 --> 00:30:56.519 the target. And then you look at the Vronsky and 555 00:30:56.599 --> 00:31:00.180 Poland and they the left will never allow beacons of 556 00:31:00.329 --> 00:31:03.589 freedom and conservatism to stand because it calls into question 557 00:31:03.670 --> 00:31:06.549 all of their ridiculous policies and all their crime. Keep 558 00:31:06.589 --> 00:31:08.990 up the great work. Keep advocating for Poland. We're going 559 00:31:09.009 --> 00:31:12.049 to keep highlighting all the great things about Poland here 560 00:31:12.230 --> 00:31:15.809 and highlight Tusk's efforts to globalize Poland. We're not going 561 00:31:15.829 --> 00:31:17.490 to let it happen. Thank you so much. 562 00:31:17.509 --> 00:31:18.690 We're not going to let it happen. We're going to 563 00:31:18.730 --> 00:31:21.390 fight and we're going to keep speaking the truth and 564 00:31:22.170 --> 00:31:24.950 exposing the facts instead of the agenda. 565 00:31:24.990 --> 00:31:25.619 That's exactly right. 566 00:31:25.630 --> 00:31:28.299 So I think it's our job, social media right now 567 00:31:28.500 --> 00:31:32.890 and the media like like your media. So I really 568 00:31:32.930 --> 00:31:33.970 have high hopes. 569 00:31:35.079 --> 00:31:37.039 Keep fighting. We'll have you back on to bring us 570 00:31:37.059 --> 00:31:40.019 the updates on everything that's happening. Stand up to Tusk, 571 00:31:40.680 --> 00:31:41.539 and we'll talk again soon. 572 00:31:41.579 --> 00:31:43.279 Yes, I definitely will. 573 00:31:44.220 --> 00:31:49.000 Thanks for being here. Coming up, President Trump's first sit-down 574 00:31:49.460 --> 00:31:52.460 since the midterms. I'll meet the press. 60 Minutes, what 575 00:31:52.480 --> 00:31:56.319 he said about the war, immigration, impeachment, and what's next. 576 00:31:56.380 --> 00:32:00.210 And later, say it ain't Thune. Congress is back this week. 577 00:32:00.750 --> 00:32:03.509 And then they leave again. Will the Senate finally fight 578 00:32:03.549 --> 00:32:06.849 a rubber stamp? The same guy who's responsible for all 579 00:32:06.869 --> 00:32:08.930 the roadblocks? Stick around. 580 00:32:17.089 --> 00:32:18.890 For all of our viewers out there asking where to 581 00:32:18.950 --> 00:32:21.609 watch One America News, we'd like to introduce you to 582 00:32:21.789 --> 00:32:24.490 OAN Live. OAN Live is the best way to stay 583 00:32:24.569 --> 00:32:26.750 up to date on the hardest hitting news and our 584 00:32:26.769 --> 00:32:29.359 talk shows. And the best part is OAN Live is 585 00:32:29.400 --> 00:32:34.220 only $ 4. 99 per month. Credible, honest, and unbiased reporting at 586 00:32:34.259 --> 00:32:36.680 a fraction of the cost of cable. So just click 587 00:32:36.720 --> 00:32:40.160 on the link at the top of our homepage, OANN.com, 588 00:32:40.180 --> 00:32:43.009 to easily sign up for the news and conservative talk 589 00:32:43.210 --> 00:32:44.470 you can't get anywhere else. 590 00:32:53.529 --> 00:32:56.430 President Trump sat down for his first interview since the 591 00:32:56.470 --> 00:32:58.569 midterms went on Meet the Press. It was on 60 592 00:32:58.569 --> 00:33:02.670 Minutes with Ross Douthat. And what the media hoped would 593 00:33:02.690 --> 00:33:06.789 be a surrender tour, it turned into something else entirely. 594 00:33:06.849 -->

00:33:10.250 So let's go through the biggest moments because there's a 595 00:33:10.289 --> 00:33:13.029 lot to talk about here, starting with the biggest one. 596 00:33:13.589 --> 00:33:16.700 Everyone's asking the same question. What does Trump think is 597 00:33:16.720 --> 00:33:21.440 the explanation as to why Republicans lost so big, bigly 598 00:33:22.259 --> 00:33:23.240 in the midterms? Check it out. 599 00:33:23.680 --> 00:33:26.220 Well, number one, I was not on the ballot, but 600 00:33:26.299 --> 00:33:29.740 I campaigned hard for some people. And I think if 601 00:33:29.799 --> 00:33:31.089 I was on the ballot, it would have been a 602 00:33:31.089 --> 00:33:34.710 much different situation. And they didn't like the war, I 603 00:33:34.730 --> 00:33:37.329 think mostly for that reason, because I think everyone agrees 604 00:33:37.369 --> 00:33:40.210 that Iran cannot have a nuclear weapon and they will 605 00:33:40.230 --> 00:33:41.349 never have a nuclear weapon. 606 00:33:41.730 --> 00:33:42.390 They won't have that. 607 00:33:42.940 --> 00:33:45.160 That's right, he didn't blame the Trump voters. The Trump 608 00:33:45.180 --> 00:33:48.950 voters did show up. They lined up for hours around 609 00:33:48.990 --> 00:33:52.049 the building to see him, the enthusiasm, the energy. The 610 00:33:52.109 --> 00:33:55.950 MAGA base, well, at least what's remaining of it, did 611 00:33:56.269 --> 00:33:59.789 show up. And he wasn't on the ballot. The candidates 612 00:33:59.829 --> 00:34:03.880 didn't transfer. They didn't like the war and gas went up. 613 00:34:04.339 --> 00:34:07.759 That's all true. The establishment spent two years sitting on 614 00:34:07.819 --> 00:34:11.320 Save America and a real agenda. And then wondered why 615 00:34:11.360 --> 00:34:14.960 the energy didn't show up for their ticket. And that's 616 00:34:15.000 --> 00:34:18.639 the reality of what happened on Election Day. Trump's base 617 00:34:18.900 --> 00:34:22.429 did show up. Republicans did show up. Now, some Republicans 618 00:34:23.119 --> 00:34:25.070 went the other way. We saw this. 619 00:34:25.110 --> 00:34:25.349 J.D. 620 00:34:25.409 --> 00:34:27.630 Vance alluded to it in his text message or his 621 00:34:28.070 --> 00:34:31.730 message on X. And we'll talk about that. But really 622 00:34:31.789 --> 00:34:34.309 what happened on that day wasn't that people that love 623 00:34:34.369 --> 00:34:36.750 Trump decided they didn't love Trump. The people who love 624 00:34:36.769 --> 00:34:40.250 Trump still love Trump. BUT NOT EVERYBODY LOVED THE REPUBLICANS. 625 00:34:40.710 --> 00:34:44.329 AND NOT EVERYBODY STILL LOVED TRUMP. AND THAT WAS REALLY 626 00:34:44.829 --> 00:34:47.630 THE HEART OF THE MATTER. BUT AS I WARNED LAST WEEK, 627 00:34:47.670 --> 00:34:55.090 THE ANSWER TO THIS ISN'T TO CHASE THE It's how 628 00:34:55.190 --> 00:34:58.829 to maintain the people who love Trump, maintain that relationship 629 00:34:58.849 --> 00:35:01.090 with the people who lined up around the building, ensure 630 00:35:01.210 --> 00:35:04.380 they show up for Trump in 28, but bring back 631 00:35:04.460 --> 00:35:06.800 the folks that may not love Trump as much as 632 00:35:06.820 --> 00:35:11.039 they used to, and bring back the Republicans that voted 633 00:35:11.079 --> 00:35:15.199 for Democrats. That's the real challenge here. Now, let's talk 634 00:35:15.239 --> 00:35:18.440 about Iran. We talked about this earlier, and it seems 635 00:35:18.940 --> 00:35:23.170 there's agreement about whether or not Iran costs Republicans the midterms. 636 00:35:24.030 --> 00:35:26.820 But it's clear the administration still feels like it was 637 00:35:26.860 --> 00:35:27.800 the right call. 638 00:35:27.840 --> 00:35:29.860 Look. I don't disagree with it. 639 00:35:29.920 --> 00:35:31.099 Other than one thing. 640 00:35:31.699 --> 00:35:34.099 First, did you know he was going to write that post? 641 00:35:34.159 --> 00:35:37.199 He asked me, what do I think? I said, you 642 00:35:37.260 --> 00:35:41.309 write what you want. By the way, what are you 643 00:35:41.329 --> 00:35:44.449 going to write? What's the one thing you disagree with? 644 00:35:44.469 --> 00:35:47.710 The one thing he left out is that I would say, 645 00:35:47.769 --> 00:35:48.949 and maybe he wouldn't say it. 646 00:35:48.989 --> 00:35:50.510 I don't know. I never asked him, really. 647 00:35:51.190 --> 00:35:51.329 But. 648 00:35:52.699 --> 00:35:55.489 If you had it to do again, would you do it? 649 00:35:56.539 --> 00:35:57.880 And that's Iran. 650 00:35:57.920 --> 00:36:01.000 Would you go and attack Iran and take away their... 651 00:36:00.880 --> 00:36:03.610 Because we won that war. That war has been one weapon. 652 00:36:03.650 --> 00:36:06.690 I think, historically, this will be a very good decision. 653 00:36:07.170 --> 00:36:09.929 Is it a good decision for today and tomorrow? 654 00:36:09.969 --> 00:36:12.369 Maybe not. But I would... You know, I have to 655 00:36:12.409 --> 00:36:14.510 go with what's right for our country. 656 00:36:15.130 --> 00:36:18.360 An emphatic yes. It's not popular. It was necessary. It's 657 00:36:18.380 --> 00:36:21.380 what I've been saying all along. That's what a commander-in-chief 658 00:36:21.460 --> 00:36:24.480 sounds like when he puts the country ahead of the 659 00:36:24.719 --> 00:36:27.780 outcome of the midterms. And in the longer cut, he 660 00:36:27.800 --> 00:36:31.239 warned Democrats will kill the filibuster the second they can. 661 00:36:31.300 --> 00:36:32.820 And he says he's trying to get that into the 662 00:36:32.860 --> 00:36:36.980 Republican Senate's head. John Thune, I hope you're listening. But 663 00:36:37.019 --> 00:36:40.860 this is the reality all along. The Iran war, Trump says, 664 00:36:41.039 --> 00:36:45.400 was necessary. He did what he had to do. And 665 00:36:45.420 --> 00:36:49.039 then the president took the issue of immigration head on. 666 00:36:49.079 -->

00:36:49.219 Look. 667 00:36:49.750 --> 00:36:51.349 I think it both helped and hurt. 668 00:36:51.449 --> 00:36:53.860 I think I got an A-plus for closing up the 669 00:36:53.880 --> 00:36:57.079 border because we had 25 million people come in through 670 00:36:57.119 --> 00:36:59.780 Biden over a four-year period. And many of those people were, 671 00:37:00.480 --> 00:37:03.260 as you know, they were from prisons. They were drug dealers. 672 00:37:03.340 --> 00:37:06.460 They were from mental institutions. They were from all over 673 00:37:06.500 --> 00:37:07.989 the world, not just South America. 674 00:37:08.269 --> 00:37:11.469 And some of them, as you once said, are good people. 675 00:37:12.210 --> 00:37:15.050 No, I said that, yes, some are good and some 676 00:37:15.110 --> 00:37:17.340 are really bad. Just to clarify. 677 00:37:17.380 --> 00:37:21.719 You had 11,888 murderers, most of whom, more than half 678 00:37:21.780 --> 00:37:23.780 of whom committed more than one murder. 679 00:37:24.219 --> 00:37:26.480 They were allowed into our country. We've gotten most of 680 00:37:26.500 --> 00:37:26.860 them out. 681 00:37:27.300 --> 00:37:29.989 For getting people out, I get very high marks for 682 00:37:30.010 --> 00:37:33.110 getting the bad ones out. But I get hurt because 683 00:37:34.050 --> 00:37:37.650 we also took people that had good jobs, that created 684 00:37:37.909 --> 00:37:40.840 one violation were breaking of the law, and that was 685 00:37:40.880 --> 00:37:44.179 that they came into the country illegally. Now, there is 686 00:37:44.199 --> 00:37:46.380 a large part of the country that think that they 687 00:37:46.420 --> 00:37:49.219 should be put out, and there's a large part of 688 00:37:49.260 --> 00:37:51.630 the country that think that they should be allowed to stay. 689 00:37:51.789 --> 00:37:54.570 If they're good people working in a landscaping company or 690 00:37:54.630 --> 00:37:59.280 working in a hotel or doing something, right, and in 691 00:37:59.340 --> 00:38:02.599 some cases paying taxes, and there's a large group of 692 00:38:02.639 --> 00:38:07.409 people think that they should be allowed to stay, So. 693 00:38:06.469 --> 00:38:08.360 You think your deportation policy went too far? 694 00:38:08.369 --> 00:38:09.030 I think it was too tough. 695 00:38:09.150 --> 00:38:09.730 It was too tough. 696 00:38:09.929 --> 00:38:12.170 I think it might be too tough, yeah. 697 00:38:12.610 --> 00:38:15.829 Try asking Joe Biden in his second term. Well, thank 698 00:38:15.849 --> 00:38:17.090 God he didn't have one. But if he was the 699 00:38:17.159 --> 00:38:19.639 end of his second term, imagine asking Joe Biden that 700 00:38:19.679 --> 00:38:22.559 question and allowing him to give that intelligent answer or 701 00:38:22.679 --> 00:38:25.920 honest of an answer. Or Kamala Harris, we saw how 702 00:38:25.960 --> 00:38:28.219 she struggled any time anybody asked her to justify any 703 00:38:28.239 --> 00:38:30.800 of her positions. But Trump's right. He gave himself an 704 00:38:30.840 --> 00:38:33.289 A-plus for closing the border and getting out the bad ones. 705 00:38:33.329 --> 00:38:35.170 He did that. I think there's some more bad ones 706 00:38:35.230 --> 00:38:37.789 to get out, too. He did acknowledge he thought maybe 707 00:38:37.809 --> 00:38:41.900 he was too tough. Now, is he reading the brutal 708 00:38:41.940 --> 00:38:45.800 midterm map? I don't know. He's not handing the keys 709 00:38:45.840 --> 00:38:48.860 back to the open borders. But some in the MAGA 710 00:38:48.889 --> 00:38:52.139 base feel like he wasn't tough enough. And that's something 711 00:38:52.179 --> 00:38:54.280 that has to be considered as well. I mean, this 712 00:38:54.340 --> 00:38:56.340 is obviously going to be a conversation we're going to 713 00:38:56.360 --> 00:38:58.840 have in the next two years. But Trump did close 714 00:38:58.860 --> 00:39:01.659 the border. He was successful in doing that. And a 715 00:39:01.659 --> 00:39:04.239 lot of people believe it doesn't matter if they're working 716 00:39:04.300 --> 00:39:06.969 in hospitality jobs or even landscaping jobs or paying taxes. 717 00:39:06.989 --> 00:39:10.010 A lot of people believe all illegal aliens should be deported. Now, 718 00:39:10.070 --> 00:39:12.789 how we deport them, you know, that's a problem for, 719 00:39:12.909 --> 00:39:16.489 I guess, DHS. But I don't know. It's really interesting 720 00:39:16.530 --> 00:39:18.929 to see the president's answer there. He also had this 721 00:39:18.969 --> 00:39:21.260 to say about his enemies, Comey, Pelosi and the whole 722 00:39:21.260 --> 00:39:21.739 crew look. 723 00:39:21.739 --> 00:39:23.420 Well, then I wouldn't be real, would I? 724 00:39:23.409 --> 00:39:25.079 I mean, if I said to you, sure, the easy 725 00:39:25.079 --> 00:39:26.989 answer to that is, oh, yes, I could forgive. 726 00:39:26.989 --> 00:39:29.010 No, I don't think it's an easy question at all. 727 00:39:29.010 --> 00:39:31.849 I found them to be extremely dishonest people, very bad people, 728 00:39:31.909 --> 00:39:33.869 very bad for our country. I love our country far 729 00:39:33.929 --> 00:39:36.909 more than I can love people and people like that. 730 00:39:37.219 --> 00:39:38.090 Is the answer no? 731 00:39:38.139 --> 00:39:39.679 The answer is no. I want to be honest. 732 00:39:39.699 --> 00:39:41.360 Before the judgment throne of God. 733 00:39:41.380 --> 00:39:44.059 Before the judgment. No, I think they were very bad people. 734 00:39:44.239 --> 00:39:46.880 And I dislike, I can use the word hate. I 735 00:39:46.920 --> 00:39:49.320 do hate some of my enemies. I think they're They've 736 00:39:49.340 --> 00:39:49.719 been terrible. 737 00:39:49.739 --> 00:39:50.840 Look what they put me through. 738 00:39:51.500 --> 00:39:54.000 They tried to jail him, bankrupt him and erase him. 739 00:39:54.880 --> 00:40:00.019 Forgiveness theater for the people who

weaponize government isn't a virtue. 740 00:40:00.449 --> 00:40:04.030 How would he forgive them? He loves this country more 741 00:40:04.070 --> 00:40:06.710 than he loves the people who tried to destroy it. 742 00:40:07.309 --> 00:40:11.730 And he said so basically on television. Over the weekend, 743 00:40:11.769 --> 00:40:14.309 we saw some big news and some high level staffing 744 00:40:14.349 --> 00:40:17.190 changes in Washington as well. And here's what Trump told 745 00:40:17.210 --> 00:40:19.980 Dow that about. situation look? 746 00:40:20.440 --> 00:40:23.860 I love my cabinet. I think they're good. But I'll 747 00:40:24.280 --> 00:40:26.099 be doing maybe a few changes. I don't want to 748 00:40:26.139 --> 00:40:27.340 mention who, because I think— Well. 749 00:40:27.420 --> 00:40:30.760 I will say that we passed— or we saw Secretary of 750 00:40:30.780 --> 00:40:32.400 Defense Pete Hegseth in the hall. 751 00:40:32.460 --> 00:40:33.840 He was meeting with you just before now. 752 00:40:33.900 --> 00:40:36.969 His name has come up a few times as someone 753 00:40:37.389 --> 00:40:39.070 people have called for his resignation. 754 00:40:39.090 --> 00:40:39.440 They do. 755 00:40:39.449 --> 00:40:40.630 Do you have confidence in him? 756 00:40:40.730 --> 00:40:40.949 I do. 757 00:40:41.510 --> 00:40:43.250 He said there'll be a few changes. And just after 758 00:40:43.269 --> 00:40:46.829 this interview, we learned about Miller time at the White House. 759 00:40:47.530 --> 00:40:49.829 He talked about what I thought this meant at the 760 00:40:49.869 --> 00:40:52.429 top of the show. But it's obvious here the president 761 00:40:52.469 --> 00:40:56.989 is preparing for war. He's not abandoning ship. But, of course, 762 00:40:57.030 --> 00:40:59.489 the biggest issue is on voters' minds heading into the midterms, 763 00:41:00.090 --> 00:41:03.210 the economy. And Trump refused to apologize for the record. 764 00:41:03.230 --> 00:41:07.099 Well, it's not really the Iran war because the numbers 765 00:41:07.159 --> 00:41:11.500 are phenomenal. The numbers that we have are historically good numbers. 766 00:41:11.940 --> 00:41:14.139 I think it was bad messaging, maybe by me, but 767 00:41:14.159 --> 00:41:15.650 I would talk about it all the time, so I 768 00:41:15.650 --> 00:41:18.150 don't know how much can I talk about it. Look, 769 00:41:18.750 --> 00:41:26.119 the press doesn't cover positive news for Republicans. They don't 770 00:41:26.500 --> 00:41:29.369 cover certainly positive news For me. So I have to 771 00:41:29.429 --> 00:41:31.010 do it myself. I have to get it out there. 772 00:41:31.070 --> 00:41:33.059 One of the reasons I did rallies was to do that. 773 00:41:33.500 --> 00:41:36.900 But you still won elections, right? So why couldn't you 774 00:41:36.920 --> 00:41:37.179 win this time? 775 00:41:37.199 --> 00:41:38.400 I think it was bad messaging. 776 00:41:39.219 --> 00:41:40.300 What was the bad message? 777 00:41:40.900 --> 00:41:42.099 We couldn't get the word across. 778 00:41:42.639 --> 00:41:46.719 Phenomenal numbers, bad messaging, a press that won't cover Republican wins, 779 00:41:46.760 --> 00:41:49.909 and a Senate that never gave him a finished agenda 780 00:41:49.929 --> 00:41:54.869 to sell. You can't message what Thune refused to pass. 781 00:41:56.460 --> 00:41:58.889 And I think that President Trump is 100% right here, 782 00:41:58.929 --> 00:42:01.469 and this is something I've talked about through all leading 783 00:42:01.510 --> 00:42:04.110 up to the midterms. People didn't feel like the economy 784 00:42:04.130 --> 00:42:06.929 was doing well. The numbers suggested it was, but how 785 00:42:06.969 --> 00:42:09.690 people feel is what matters. Is it messaging? Or maybe 786 00:42:09.710 --> 00:42:11.800 the economy wasn't doing well enough in certain areas. Maybe 787 00:42:11.820 --> 00:42:14.219 it was the Iran war. I don't know. But I 788 00:42:14.280 --> 00:42:16.820 think if this was covered differently and messaged differently, people 789 00:42:16.880 --> 00:42:19.940 wouldn't have thought, at least, that the economy is as 790 00:42:20.059 --> 00:42:22.000 bad as people think it is. Now, there's still work 791 00:42:22.039 --> 00:42:25.110 to be done, but the fundamentals are there. And I'll 792 00:42:25.150 --> 00:42:28.849 leave you with the one that had everyone talking, UFOs. 793 00:42:29.150 --> 00:42:29.530 Why not? 794 00:42:29.989 --> 00:42:32.639 Is there anything that you have seen or heard about 795 00:42:33.099 --> 00:42:35.500 or been told about that would lead you to think 796 00:42:35.539 --> 00:42:38.539 that there's something more there than just we're having a 797 00:42:38.559 --> 00:42:40.139 good time looking at things in the sky? 798 00:42:40.280 --> 00:42:42.989 It's so amazing that you asked this question because it 799 00:42:43.090 --> 00:42:47.550 is one of the questions in private I get asked about. 800 00:42:47.630 --> 00:42:49.650 More people ask me about UFOs than anything. 801 00:42:50.369 --> 00:42:53.789 I mean, people that you wouldn't think. 802 00:42:54.230 --> 00:42:56.230 So here's the story. 803 00:42:56.849 --> 00:42:59.869 I'm not too much of a believer, but I sat 804 00:42:59.909 --> 00:43:02.170 in the Oval Office, first term and a little bit 805 00:43:02.230 --> 00:43:04.090 second term, meeting with. 806 00:43:04.389 --> 00:43:07.889 Air Force pilots that are really good, solid people. 807 00:43:07.929 --> 00:43:11.750 These are not people that you would say are conspiracy theorists. 808 00:43:12.250 --> 00:43:14.329 But then along with those pilots, there's a set of 809 00:43:14.369 --> 00:43:17.949 people who have styled themselves as whistleblowers, who have come 810 00:43:18.030 --> 00:43:22.269 out and said— Actually, there's also a secret program that 811 00:43:22.469 --> 00:43:25.489 even presidents don't know about to study this stuff. 812 00:43:26.510 --> 00:43:28.710 Have

you seen any evidence that that is the case? 813 00:43:28.730 --> 00:43:30.289 No, and I haven't heard that. But if there is, 814 00:43:30.429 --> 00:43:32.659 I'm going to find out about it right after this interview. 815 00:43:32.989 --> 00:43:35.639 Listen to Air Force pilots refusing to dismiss the public 816 00:43:36.159 --> 00:43:39.739 and promising to dig if there's a secret program even 817 00:43:39.800 --> 00:43:42.800 presidents don't know about. That was a really interesting part. Look, 818 00:43:42.820 --> 00:43:45.340 he's transparent. It's the same guy Democrats want to impeach 819 00:43:45.380 --> 00:43:49.380 for existing. There were so many other moments for that interview, 820 00:43:49.420 --> 00:43:51.300 but unfortunately, I don't have time to cover them all 821 00:43:51.440 --> 00:43:54.260 for you. But once again, President Trump shows he's willing 822 00:43:54.320 --> 00:43:57.429 to go on any show and at any time and 823 00:43:57.449 --> 00:44:00.389 defend his record. And regardless of what happened last Tuesday, 824 00:44:00.869 --> 00:44:03.650 this is a record of accomplishment. He's not even close 825 00:44:03.909 --> 00:44:08.710 to being done yet. Coming up, Congress comes back this 826 00:44:08.780 --> 00:44:13.699 week and leaves again. Tomorrow morning, Senate Republicans vote on leadership. 827 00:44:13.760 --> 00:44:17.320 John Thune, he thinks he should stay. And at least 828 00:44:17.380 --> 00:44:21.269 five senators want to delay that vote. Is this the 829 00:44:21.789 --> 00:44:26.469 lamest lame duck ever? Let's just say it ain't Thune 830 00:44:26.929 --> 00:44:27.289 after this. 831 00:44:35.619 --> 00:44:37.420 For all of our viewers out there asking where to 832 00:44:37.480 --> 00:44:40.159 watch One America News, we'd like to introduce you to 833 00:44:40.320 --> 00:44:43.030 OAN Live. OAN Live is the best way to stay 834 00:44:43.110 --> 00:44:45.289 up to date on the hardest hitting news and our 835 00:44:45.309 --> 00:44:47.889 talk shows. And the best part is OAN Live is 836 00:44:47.949 --> 00:44:52.750 only $ 4. 99 per month. Credible, honest, and unbiased reporting at 837 00:44:52.789 --> 00:44:55.210 a fraction of the cost of cable. So just click 838 00:44:55.250 --> 00:44:58.690 on the link at the top of our homepage, OANN.com, 839 00:44:58.730 --> 00:45:01.530 to easily sign up for the news and conservative talk 840 00:45:01.730 --> 00:45:02.989 you can't get anywhere else. 841 00:45:13.389 --> 00:45:18.219 FOOD. CONGRESS IS BACK THIS WEEK. THEY'LL BE GONE AGAIN 842 00:45:18.260 --> 00:45:21.219 BEFORE THE TURKEY COOLS OUT FOR VETERANS DAY OUT FOR 843 00:45:21.619 --> 00:45:27.139 THANKSGIVING AGAIN FOR CHRISTMAS. COMES BACK, LEAVES. IT'S GOING TO 844 00:45:27.159 --> 00:45:31.510 BE THE LAMEST LAME DUCK SESSION EVER. AND WILL THEY 845 00:45:31.550 --> 00:45:40.210 DO ANYTHING TO I WANT TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT 846 00:45:40.230 --> 00:45:41.730 SOME OF THE THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING. TOMORROW

MORNING AT 847 00:45:41.730 --> 00:45:44.190 9 EASTERN, SENATE REPUBLICANS VOTE ON LEADERSHIP. AND DO YOU 848 00:45:44.210 --> 00:45:49.429 BELIEVE JOHN THUNE WANTS A SMOOTH CORONATION AS MINORITY LEADER, 849 00:45:49.510 --> 00:45:53.590 NO CHALLENGER, SAME ESTABLISHMENT THAT SAT ON THE SAVE AMERICA ACT, 850 00:45:53.639 --> 00:45:57.059 SAT ON THE JUDGES, AND TURNED THE UNITED STATES SENATE 851 00:45:57.539 --> 00:46:02.280 INTO A ROAD BLOCK WHILE PRESIDENT TRUMP BEGGED THEM TO FIGHT. EIGHT, 852 00:46:02.739 --> 00:46:12.409 POSSIBLY SEVEN TO EIGHT He thinks he should get a promotion? 853 00:46:13.219 --> 00:46:16.940 But at least five senators, Ron Johnson, Mike Lee, Rick Scott, 854 00:46:16.960 --> 00:46:20.219 John Kennedy, and Dave McCormick, they want to delay that vote, 855 00:46:20.320 --> 00:46:25.909 possibly till January. Not necessarily dump Thune, they should delay him, certainly. 856 00:46:26.670 --> 00:46:29.489 Digest the midterm wipeout first and ask what went wrong. 857 00:46:29.989 --> 00:46:33.239 Ask what the conference stands for. Ask what changes need 858 00:46:33.260 --> 00:46:37.380 to happen before Democrats take the floor. Johnson's letter to 859 00:46:37.420 --> 00:46:40.739 conference chair Tom Cotton forces a special meeting. Rick Scott 860 00:46:40.780 --> 00:46:43.219 wants a voter ID commitment before anybody gets a promotion. 861 00:46:44.320 --> 00:46:49.340 McCormick said it straight. Tuesday, it's just too soon to vote. 862 00:46:50.360 --> 00:46:56.960 Too soon to vote. A similar delay failed in 2022. 863 00:46:56.960 --> 00:47:00.780 The conference closed ranks and kept marching. Trump told you 864 00:47:01.409 --> 00:47:04.429 the Senate was killing our country, and he wasn't wrong. 865 00:47:05.550 --> 00:47:08.110 Democrats already have the gavels coming. Jeffries is a hard 866 00:47:08.150 --> 00:47:11.469 yes on going after Pete Hegseth this week. Confirm the judges. 867 00:47:12.090 --> 00:47:16.940 Move election integrity. Finish the agenda Trump asked for. But 868 00:47:16.980 --> 00:47:21.659 watch the unfinished business die in the lamest lame duck 869 00:47:21.719 --> 00:47:26.260 session on record. You might even consider the last two 870 00:47:26.300 --> 00:47:28.489 years a lame duck session in and of itself. But 871 00:47:28.530 --> 00:47:32.849 if tomorrow is just another rubber stamp for the same roadblock, 872 00:47:32.869 --> 00:47:36.199 the same leadership... It won't be because Trump didn't do 873 00:47:36.239 --> 00:47:39.610 his part. It'll be because Thune's Senate did the wrong 874 00:47:39.670 --> 00:47:42.670 thing yet again. Like I said, lamest lame duck ever. 875 00:47:43.349 --> 00:47:47.380 Joining me now is Matthew Hurd, director of professional services 876 00:47:47.440 --> 00:47:50.739 at the Leadership Institute, chairman of the Arlington County GOP, 877 00:47:51.260 --> 00:47:55.929 and a regular on GB News and Supertalk 99.7. Matthew, 878 00:47:56.110 --> 00:47:58.130 welcome to David Pollak prime time. Now you'll be a 879 00:47:58.170 --> 00:48:03.369 regular here. It's Washington. Tell me they're not going to 880 00:48:03.409 --> 00:48:04.280 let Thune continue. 881 00:48:05.570 --> 00:48:08.400 Well, David, as you said a moment ago, this is 882 00:48:08.500 --> 00:48:12.239 the lamest lame duck Congress we have ever seen. In fact, 883 00:48:12.739 --> 00:48:15.320 if the members of Congress were required to have the 884 00:48:15.380 --> 00:48:20.110 work requirement for SNAP benefits, they wouldn't even qualify. What 885 00:48:20.150 --> 00:48:22.710 we're going to see over the next few weeks is 886 00:48:22.849 --> 00:48:26.929 more of the same with only a few areas of 887 00:48:27.030 --> 00:48:32.199 silver lining. We may see more federal judges confirmed. But 888 00:48:32.340 --> 00:48:35.400 everything else is very likely going to be as it is. 889 00:48:35.579 --> 00:48:38.599 You made a point just a moment ago about delaying 890 00:48:38.659 --> 00:48:42.449 leadership elections, and I think it is incumbent on the U.S. senators, 891 00:48:42.530 --> 00:48:45.989 particularly Republicans, to pump the brakes on this and see 892 00:48:46.030 --> 00:48:47.329 what it looks like. 893 00:48:47.210 --> 00:48:47.969 Going into 2027. 894 00:48:47.949 --> 00:48:48.710 To me. 895 00:48:48.989 --> 00:48:55.579 Now, look, I know we're trying to digest last Tuesday. 896 00:48:55.599 --> 00:48:58.130 A lot of people have different opinions on whether YOU KNOW, 897 00:48:58.150 --> 00:48:59.539 THE IRAN WAR HAD A LOT TO DO WITH IT, 898 00:48:59.570 --> 00:49:02.050 WAS THE ECONOMY, WAS THE ATTITUDE TOWARDS THE ECONOMY, ALL 899 00:49:02.130 --> 00:49:04.599 THINGS WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT GOING FORWARD, AND WE 900 00:49:04.619 --> 00:49:07.239 HAVE TIME FOR THAT. BUT THE ONE THING THAT I 901 00:49:07.300 --> 00:49:11.780 THINK UNIVERSALLY EVERY REPUBLICAN, I MEAN, ANYBODY, PEOPLE WHO ARE 902 00:49:11.820 --> 00:49:14.690 NOT EVEN ENGAGED IN POLITICS CAN AGREE ON, IS THAT 903 00:49:14.869 --> 00:49:18.090 THUNE DID NOT DO HIS JOB. WHAT DID HE DO? 904 00:49:18.349 --> 00:49:21.320 THEY SAT ON HUNDREDS OF PIECES OF LEGISLATION THAT A 905 00:49:21.440 --> 00:49:24.119 VERY NARROW MAJORITY OF THE REPUBLICANS IN THE HOUSE SENT 906 00:49:24.199 --> 00:49:27.000 OVER TO HIM. AND LOOK HOW MANY SEATS THUNE LOST 907 00:49:27.300 --> 00:49:30.539 JUST ON THAT RECORD ALONE. HE DESERVES TO BE KICKED 908 00:49:30.599 --> 00:49:33.440 OUT OF LEADERSHIP, BUT THE FACT THAT THEY'RE EVEN CONSIDERING 909 00:49:33.659 --> 00:49:37.380 KEEPING HIM TELLS YOU EVERYTHING THAT IS WRONG WITH THE SENATE, 910 00:49:37.440 --> 00:49:39.679 AND IT MEANS THEY DON'T CARE THAT THEY LOST, RIGHT? 911 00:49:41.110 --> 00:49:42.090 You're absolutely right. 912 00:49:42.130 --> 00:49:45.889 And what many Americans don't realize is there isn't just 913 00:49:46.110 --> 00:49:48.769 one election for United States Senate in each state. 914 00:49:48.849 -->

00:49:49.610 There are two. 915 00:49:50.050 --> 00:49:52.849 And what I mean by that is voters elect their senator, 916 00:49:53.010 --> 00:49:55.389 and they may elect a Republican who says he or 917 00:49:55.449 --> 00:49:58.630 she is going to go to Washington to fight. But 918 00:49:58.650 --> 00:50:02.190 then that second election is Senate leadership. And it is often, 919 00:50:02.289 --> 00:50:04.949 as you just said a moment ago, where they close 920 00:50:05.030 --> 00:50:08.769 ranks and support people like Senator John Thune, like, for 921 00:50:08.809 --> 00:50:11.530 a long time, Senator Mitch McConnell and others. 922 00:50:11.909 --> 00:50:13.840 This is— this vote, this. 923 00:50:13.739 --> 00:50:19.880 Second vote, is completely shielded from accountability by conservatives, activists 924 00:50:19.960 --> 00:50:23.139 in the states, in red states like Idaho and Montana 925 00:50:23.500 --> 00:50:25.480 and North and South Dakota and Tennessee. 926 00:50:25.880 --> 00:50:26.900 They don't have a say. 927 00:50:26.960 --> 00:50:29.420 Those voters don't have a say in who takes the 928 00:50:29.460 --> 00:50:31.179 Republican banner to the Senate floor. 929 00:50:31.260 --> 00:50:32.469 It's absolutely a shame. 930 00:50:33.199 --> 00:50:33.380 Yeah. 931 00:50:33.659 --> 00:50:36.219 And look, I've had this conspiracy theory and I'm not 932 00:50:36.260 --> 00:50:37.400 the conspiracy theory guy. 933 00:50:37.539 --> 00:50:37.679 Right. 934 00:50:37.699 --> 00:50:39.619 That's not me. I try to call balls and strikes 935 00:50:39.659 --> 00:50:41.570 and I try to bring the audience whatever information I 936 00:50:41.590 --> 00:50:44.079 can let them decide for themselves what they think. But 937 00:50:44.099 --> 00:50:46.340 here's the David Pollak conspiracy theory. So if I have one, 938 00:50:46.360 --> 00:50:48.539 there might be some merit to it. I thought for 939 00:50:48.579 --> 00:50:51.699 two years that Thune was always kind of the guy 940 00:50:51.719 --> 00:50:53.900 to stab the president in the back. You know, when 941 00:50:53.920 --> 00:50:55.360 we look at the numbers and we look at the 942 00:50:55.400 --> 00:50:58.099 fact that this is the first time in modern history 943 00:50:58.400 --> 00:51:02.179 where the president's own party blocked his own recess appointments, 944 00:51:02.519 --> 00:51:03.960 when you look at the fact that he could not 945 00:51:04.039 --> 00:51:06.380 figure out a way to get the Save America Act done, 946 00:51:06.420 --> 00:51:09.449 when you look at THE DELAY ON ALL OF THE 947 00:51:09.530 --> 00:51:13.730 APPOINTMENTS AND ALL THE, IT'S JUST, IT'S A RECORD OF OBSTRUCTION. 948 00:51:13.849 --> 00:51:16.130 IT ALMOST SEEMS LIKE WE WERE DEALING WITH CHUCK SCHUMER, 949 00:51:16.489 --> 00:51:19.309 NOT A REPUBLICAN JOHN THUNE. AND SO LOOKING AT THAT, 950 00:51:19.929 --> 00:51:22.090 AND THEN CONSIDERING THAT THEY EVEN WANT TO KEEP HIM 951 00:51:22.150 --> 00:51:25.090 OR CONSIDERING KEEPING HIM, ESPECIALLY CONSIDERING WHAT YOU JUST SAID, 952 00:51:25.139 --> 00:51:27.420 THAT WE HAVE ANOTHER ELECTION FOR A LOT OF SENATORS 953 00:51:27.480 --> 00:51:31.639 IN TWO MORE YEARS. THIS MAKES ME THINK that he's 954 00:51:31.679 --> 00:51:34.039 being rewarded by the Senate, but for a handful of 955 00:51:34.099 --> 00:51:38.199 really bold, patriot senators. He's being rewarded by the caucus 956 00:51:38.219 --> 00:51:40.860 for doing what I believe he was up to for 957 00:51:40.909 --> 00:51:44.030 the last few years. Am I being conspiratorial, or is 958 00:51:44.070 --> 00:51:45.849 he getting an attaboy for doing a good job in 959 00:51:45.869 --> 00:51:49.489 obstructing this president? This is— this. 960 00:51:48.570 --> 00:51:52.929 Is not conspiratorial. You just explained how the process works. Again, 961 00:51:53.409 --> 00:51:58.929 these elected incumbents, these entrenched incumbents circle the wagons, because 962 00:51:59.030 --> 00:52:02.030 they know, in these U.S. Senate elections, if I'm a 963 00:52:02.070 --> 00:52:05.289 Republican senator and I get elected this year, it's another 964 00:52:05.369 --> 00:52:08.309 five-and-a-half years before I have to go before my voters 965 00:52:08.530 --> 00:52:10.650 and tell them what I've done. And only in the 966 00:52:10.710 --> 00:52:14.610 last two years of a Republican senator's time in that 967 00:52:14.690 --> 00:52:17.230 term do they actually start voting conservative. 968 00:52:18.070 --> 00:52:19.369 And so it's absolutely a shame. 969 00:52:19.389 --> 00:52:22.849 There's almost no accountability when it comes to this. And 970 00:52:22.889 --> 00:52:26.230 that's why it is so important for conservative activists to 971 00:52:26.289 --> 00:52:28.780 pay attention to what happens in Washington. That's why a 972 00:52:28.820 --> 00:52:31.719 program like this is so important, and to get involved 973 00:52:31.820 --> 00:52:33.920 in the process. If you've got a senator who was 974 00:52:33.980 --> 00:52:37.179 reelected or is up for reelection in two years, you've 975 00:52:37.199 --> 00:52:39.119 got to start paying attention to the votes now. 976 00:52:39.239 --> 00:52:43.309 And these leadership votes matter. Yeah, it's the most important thing. 977 00:52:43.489 --> 00:52:45.489 And this is so not just who's going to be 978 00:52:45.510 --> 00:52:48.130 president in 28, not just who's going to be minority 979 00:52:48.170 --> 00:52:51.710 leader in the House, but also really evaluating what went 980 00:52:51.750 --> 00:52:54.019 wrong in the Senate. And as a party, if we 981 00:52:54.039 --> 00:52:56.780 can figure out what our identity is going forward, if 982 00:52:56.820 --> 00:52:59.900 we can't figure out how to fix this Senate, I 983 00:52:59.940 --> 00:53:02.699 really think that reflects poorly on the Republican Party. And 984 00:53:02.719 --> 00:53:05.019 I think a lot of people who did show up 985 00:53:05.039 --> 00:53:07.949 for President Trump I mean, it could get much worse 986 00:53:08.420 --> 00:53:10.699 if they have no faith in the caucus in the 987 00:53:10.760 --> 00:53:13.440 Senate that they're going to actually reflect their wishes. There's 988 00:53:13.480 --> 00:53:14.900 a lot to learn here. We're going to be following 989 00:53:14.920 --> 00:53:17.650 this very closely. Matthew, thank you so much for being 990 00:53:17.670 --> 00:53:21.690 here and breaking this down. Thank you. Well, that is 991 00:53:21.789 --> 00:53:25.219 our show for tonight. Make sure you tune in tomorrow. 992 00:53:25.429 --> 00:53:28.869 There are allegations of a big fight. between Susie Wiles 993 00:53:28.929 --> 00:53:32.969 and President Trump before her resignation. I'm going to have 994 00:53:33.010 --> 00:53:36.239 Neil McCabe on tomorrow to break that down. And always 995 00:53:36.280 --> 00:53:37.960 be sure to stay in touch with us on social media. 996 00:53:37.980 --> 00:53:40.719 I'm David Pollak, USA, on all social media platforms. Or 997 00:53:40.760 --> 00:53:42.219 you can send us an email, tell us what you think. 998 00:53:42.679 --> 00:53:43.760 DavidPollakPrimeTime at 08NN. 999 00:53:43.519 --> 00:53:43.760 Com. 1000 00:53:43.780 --> 00:53:47.860 We'll see you tomorrow, same time, same place. And until then, 1001 00:53:48.420 --> 00:53:53.010 do your best. 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